Second Session- Thirty-Seventh Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. LI No. 24B - l :30 p.m., Thursday, May 3, 200 I ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Seventh Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D. I'. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.I'. ASHTON, Steve, lion. Thompson N.IJ.I'. ASPER, Linda Riel N.D I' BARRETT. Becky, lion. Inkster N.D.I' CALDWELL, Drew, lion. Brandon East N.D.I'. CERII.l.l, Marianne Radisson N.D.I'. CIIOMIAK, Dave, lion. Kildonan N.D.I'. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose I'.C. DACQUA Y, Louise Seine River I'.C. DERKACII, Leonard Russell I'.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.I'. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.I'. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood I'.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina I'.C. ENNS, I larry Lakeside I'.C. FAURSCIIOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FRIESEN, Jean, lion. Wolseley N.D.I'. GERRARD, Jon, lion. River lleights Lib. GILLESIIAMMER, Harold Minnedosa PC. IIELWER, Edward Gimli I'.C. IIICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.I'. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.I'. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.I'. LATIILIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY,Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, lion. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MIIIYCIIUK, MaryAnn, lion. Minto N.D.I'. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. MlJRRA Y, Stuart Kirkfield Park P.C. NEVAKSIIONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PENNER, Jim Steinbach I'.C. PITURA, Frank Morris P.C. I'RAZNIK, Darren Lac du Bonnet P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.I'. REIMER, Jack Southdale P.C. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.I'. ROCAN, Denis Carman I'.C. RONDEAU, Jim Assiniboia N.IH. SALE, Tim, lion. Fort Rouge N.D.I'. SANTOS. Conrad Wellington N.D.I'. SCIIEI.LENBERG. I larry Rossmere N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield I'.C. SELINGER. Greg. lion. St. Boniface N.D.I'. SMITH, Joy Fort Garry I'.C. SMITH, Scott. lion. Brandon West N.D.I'. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo I'.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. TWEED. Mervin Turtle Mountain PC. WOWCIIl JK. Rosann. Hon. Swan River N.IH. 1215 LEGISLATIVE ASSEM BLY OF MANITO BA Thursday , May 3, 2001 The Ho use met at 1: 30 p.m. Some Ho nourable Members: Yes. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Mr. Speaker: Will the Clerk please read. PR ESENTING PETITIONS Madam Clerk (Patricia Chaychuk): The petition of the undersigned citizens of the Mr. Speaker: The honourable Member fo r province of Manitoba humbly sheweth: Morris; the honourable member fo r Springfield (Mr. Schuler). The honourable Member fo r THAT the R.M. of East St. Paul has the Morris, to read his petition. highest concentration of high voltage power lines in a residential area in Manitoba; and Ke naston Underpass THAT the R.M. of East St. Paul is the only Mr. Frank Pitura (Morris): Sir, I apologize fo r jurisdiction in Manitoba that has both a 500kV that. I beg to present the petition of R. Lemieux, and a 230kV line directly behind residences; and Tom Stott, Rod Roblin and others, praying that the Premier of Manitoba (Mr. Doer) consider THAT numerous studies have linked cancer, reversing his decision to not support in particular childhood leukemia, to the construction of an underpass at Kenaston and proximity of power lines. Wilkes. WHEREFORE YOUR PETITIONERS Manitoba Hydro Lines Routes HUMBLY PRAY THAT the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba request that the Minister Mr. Ron Schuler (Springfield): I beg to present responsible for Manitoba Hydro consider alter­ the petition of Richard Butuket, David McLaren, native routes for the additional 230kV and Jeannie Paulson and others, praying that the 500kV lines proposed for the R.M. of East St. Legislative Assembly of Manitoba request that Paul. the Minister responsible fo r Manitoba Hydro *(13:35) (Mr. Selinger) consider alternative routes fo r the additional 230kV and 500kV lines proposed for Ke naston Underpass the R.M. of East St. Paul. Mr. Speaker: The honourable Member fo r Fort Whyte (Mr. Loewen), I have reviewed the Ke naston Un derpass petition. It complies with the rules and practices of the House. Is it the will of the House to have Mr. John Loewen (Fort Wh yte): I beg to the petition read? present the petition of Linda Macintosh, Don Macintosh, Thomas Provals and others, praying Some Ho nourable Members: Yes. that the Premier of Manitoba (Mr. Doer) consider reversing his decision to not support Mr. Speaker: Clerk, please read. construction of an underpass at Kenaston and Madam Clerk (Patricia Chaychuk): The Wilkes. petition of the undersigned citizens of the READING AND RECEIVING PETITIONS province of Manitoba humbly sheweth: Manitoba Hy dro Lines Routes THAT the intersection at Wilkes and Kenaston has grown to become the largest Mr. Speaker: The honourable Member fo r unseparated crossing in Canada; and Springfield (Mr. Schuler), I have reviewed the petition. It complies with the rules and practices THAT the volume of trafficfo r this railroad of the House. Is it the will of the House to have crossing is 12 times the acceptable limit as set the petition read? out by Transport Canada; and 1216 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 3, 2001 THAT vehicles which have to wait for trains certain resolutions, directs me to report the same at this intersection burn up approximately $1.4 and asks leave to sit again. million in fu el, pollute the environment with over eight tons of emissions and cause I move, seconded by the honourable approximately $7.3 million in motorist delays Member fo r Selkirk (Mr. Dewar), that the report every year. of the committee be received. WHEREFORE YOUR PETITIONERS Motion agreed to. HUMBLY PRAY THAT the Premier of Manitoba consider reversing his decision to not TA BLING OF REPORTS support construction of an underpass at Kenaston and Wilkes. Hon. Rosano Wo wchuk (Minister of Agriculture and Food): Mr. Speaker, I am Mr. Speaker: The honourable Member fo r pleased to table the Agriculture and Food Morris (Mr. Pitura), I have reviewed the petition, Supplementary Information fo r Legislative and it complies with the rules and practices of Review 2001-2002 Expenditure Estimates. the House. Is it the will of the House to have petition read? Hon. Gord Mackintosh (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): I am pleased to table Some Honourable Members: Yes. The Fatality Inquiries Act report for the year 2000. Mr. Speaker: Clerk, please read. * (13:40) Madam Clerk: The petition of the undersigned citizens of the province of Manitoba humbly INTRODUCTION OF BI LLS sheweth: Bi ll 19-The Crown La nds Amendment Act THAT the intersection at Wilkes and Hon. Rosano Wo wchuk (Minister of Kenaston has grown to become the largest on­ Agriculture and Food): I move, seconded by separated crossing in Canada; and the Minister of Conservation (Mr. Lathlin), that leave be given to introduce Bill 19, The Crown THAT the volume of traffic fo r this railroad Lands Amendment Act (Loi modifiant Ia Loi sur crossing is 12 times the acceptable limit as set les terres domaniales ), and that the same be now out by Transport Canada; and received and read a first time. THAT vehicles which have to wait fo r trains His Honour the Lieutenant Governor having at this intersection burn up approximately $1.4 been advised of the content of the bill million in fuel, pollute the environment with recommends it to the House. I would like to over eight tons of emissions and cause approxi­ table the Lieutenant Governor's message. mately $7.3 million in motorist delays every Motion presented year. WHEREFORE YOUR PETITIONERS Ms. Wo wchuk: Mr. Speaker, this bill provides a HUMBLY PRAY THAT the Premier of fo rmal appeal mechanism for leases, use permits Manitoba consider reversing his decision to not and work permits fo r agricultural Crown lands. support construction of an underpass at It also provides for a Director of Agricultural Kenaston and Wilkes. Crown Lands and enables the director to lease, issue work permits, use permits and provide the PRESENTINGREPORTS BY transfer of leases and use permits related to STANDING AND SPECIA L COMMITTEE agricultural Crown lands and creates an Committee of Supply Agricultural Crown lands Appeal Board to deal with appeals fr om the decisions of the director. Mr. Conrad Santos (Chairperson): Mr. Speaker, the Committee of Supply has adopted Motion agreed to. May 3, 2001 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 1217 Introduction of Guests to the words of the Leader of the Opposition. The memorandum of agreement has been Mr. Speaker: Prior to Oral questions, I would released publicly. The due diligence that has like to draw the attention of all honourable been conducted by the Winnipeg Regional members to the gallery where we have with us Health Authority has been made public. An from Montcalm School five Grades 7 and 9 outside due diligence that indicates a $1.2 students under the direction of Mr. Bruce million benefit to the public of Manitoba has Urquhart. This school is located in the con­ been identified. The doubling of patients in stituency of the honourable Member for potential surgery with the proposal has been Wellington (Mr. Santos). identified. Some issues of information and a business plan as weaknesses have been Also seated in the gallery we have Jane identified, and those matters have gone back to Brenner and Barb Fox who are the executive the Winnipeg Health Authority.