Second Session – Forty-First Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXX No. 73 - 1:30 p.m., Wednesday, October 25, 2017 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-First Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP BINDLE, Kelly Thompson PC CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC CURRY, Nic Kildonan PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FLETCHER, Steven, Hon. Assiniboia Ind. FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Clifford Emerson PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake PC JOHNSTON, Scott St. James PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLASSEN, Judy Kewatinook Lib. LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMOUREUX, Cindy Burrows Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MARTIN, Shannon Morris PC MAYER, Colleen St. Vital PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Arthur-Virden PC REYES, Jon St. Norbert PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples Ind. SCHULER, Ron, Hon. St. Paul PC SELINGER, Greg St. Boniface NDP SMITH, Andrew Southdale PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC SWAN, Andrew Minto NDP TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Gimli PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian, Hon. Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC YAKIMOSKI, Blair Transcona PC 3121 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Wednesday, October 25, 2017 The House met at 1:30 p.m. I am pleased to present this bill to the House for its consideration. Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as adopt the motion? Agreed? [Agreed] may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that COMMITTEE REPORTS we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom and know Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the Ninth Report glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen. Mrs. Sarah Guillemard (Chairperson): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the Ninth Report of the Please be seated. Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs presents the INTRODUCTION OF BILLS following– Madam Speaker: Are there any introduction of Some Honourable Members: Dispense. bills? Madam Speaker: Dispense. Bill 233–The Nanjing Massacre Commemoration Day Act Your Standing Committee on LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS presents the following as its Ninth Report. Ms. Flor Marcelino (Logan): I move, seconded by the member for St. Johns (Ms. Fontaine), that Meetings Bill 233, The Nanjing Massacre Commemoration Day Act, be now read a first time. Thank you. Your Committee met on the following occasions in Room 254 of the Legislative Building: Motion presented. • October 23, 2017 Ms. Marcelino: I am pleased to rise in the House • October 24, 2017 today to introduce, for a first reading, Bill 233, The Nanjing Massacre Commemoration Day Act. Matters under Consideration This bill designated–designates December 13th • Bill (No. 24) – The Red Tape Reduction and as an annual day to remember and honour the victims Government Efficiency Act, 2017/Loi de 2017 of the Nanjing Massacre, also known as the Rape of sur la réduction du fardeau administratif et Nanking. l'efficacité du gouvernement This horrific act of wartime violence saw an estimated 300,000 Chinese civilians and soldiers Committee Membership murdered and some 20,000 women and children brutally raped. Committee Membership for the October 23, 2017 meeting: This day will be a time for Manitobans to express their commitment to the protection of human • Mr. ALLUM rights. • HON. MR. EICHLER 3122 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 25, 2017 • HON. MR. FRIESEN Justin Jenner, Keystone Agricultural Producers • HON. MR. GERRARD Dennis Hodgkinson, DGH Engineering Ltd. • MR. GRAYDON Michael Stainton, Lake Winnipeg Foundation • MRS. GUILLEMARD Scott Dick and Cliff Loewen (by leave), Agra-Gold • MR. LINDSEY Consulting Ltd. • MR. MARTIN Michelle Gawronsky, MGEU – Manitoba Government and General Employees Union • MR. REYES Kevin Rebeck, Manitoba Federation of Labour • MR. SWAN Hugh Arklie, Private Citizen • MR. YAKIMOSKI Janine Gibson, The Organic Food Council of Manitoba Your Committee elected Mrs. Guillemard as the Grant Rigby, Private Citizen Chairperson at the October 23, 2017 meeting. Jennifer Demare, Private Citizen Edward Stahl Jr., Private Citizen Your Committee elected Mr. Martin as the Jeroen Van Boekel, Private Citizen Vice-Chairperson at the October 23, 2017 meeting. Arian DeBekker, The Independent Hog Farmers Coop Committee Membership for the October 24, 2017 Andrew Dickson, Private Citizen meeting: Jonathan Alward, Canadian Federation of Independent Business • MR. ALLUM Eric Reder, Wilderness Committee • HON. MR. CULLEN Glen Koroluk, Free Range Worker Cooperative • HON. MR. FRIESEN William Gould, Private Citizen • HON. MR. GERRARD David Nickarz, Private Citizen • MRS. GUILLEMARD (CHAIRPERSON) Mike Teillet, Private Citizen • MR. HELWER Derek Brewin, Private Citizen • MR. LINDSEY • MR. MARTIN (VICE-CHAIRPERSON) October 24, 2017 meeting • MR. REYES Glen Gratton & Tricia Schmalenberg (by leave), • MRS. SMITH (POINT DOUGLAS) Maple Leaf Industries • MR. SMITH (SOUTHDALE) Accalia Robertson, Private Citizen Sheldon Stott, Private Citizen Non-Committee Members Speaking on Record Glenda Whiteman, Private Citizen Brittany Semeniuk, Winnipeg Humane Society Non-Committee Members speaking on the record at Gaile Whelan-Enns, Private Citizen the October 24, 2017 meeting: Margaret Rempel, Private Citizen Grand Chief Jerry Daniels, Southern Chiefs • Mr. Kinew Organization Lyame Cypres, Private Citizen Public Presentations Johannes Soer, Private Citizen Mike Sutherland, Peguis First Nation Your Committee heard the following fifty-four Pita Hoyt, Private Citizen presentations on Bill (No. 24) – The Red Tape Weldon Newton, Private Citizen Reduction and Government Efficiency Act, 2017/Loi Vicki Burns, Private Citizen de 2017 sur la réduction du fardeau administratif et Ruth Pryzner, Private Citizen l'efficacité du gouvernement: Kristin Lauhn-Jensen, Private Citizen Kelly Whelan-Enns, Private Citizen October 23, 2017 meeting Louise May, Aurora Farm Kristaps Balodis, Private Citizen George Matheson, Manitoba Pork Council Marianne Cerilli, Private Citizen Peter Williams, Private Citizen Kevin Toyne, Private Citizen Ralph Groening, Association of Manitoba Munici- Debbie Wall, Private Citizen palities Don Flaten, Private Citizen October 25, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 3123 Anne Lindsey, Private Citizen MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS Michele Rogalsky, University of Manitoba Gord Delbridge, CUPE Local 500 Madam Speaker: The honourable Minister for Terry Egan, CUPE Manitoba Sustainable Development, and I would indicate that James Beddome, Green Party of Manitoba the required 90 minutes notice prior to routine Terry Wachniak, Private Citizen proceedings was provided in accordance with our rule 26(2). Dr. M.J. Willard, Private Citizen Written Submissions Would the honourable minister please proceed with her statement. Your Committee received the following thirteen written submissions on Bill (No. 24) – The Red Tape Climate Change Report– Reduction and Government Efficiency Act, 2017/Loi Auditor General's Findings de 2017 sur la réduction du fardeau administratif et l'efficacité du gouvernement: Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister of Sustainable Development): Earlier today, the office of the Lynn Murphy, Private Citizen Auditor General released its report on the provincial Carl Epp, Parkland Tree Care Ltd. government's lack of action and core management of Matt Vinet, International Society of Arboriculture climate change under the previous administration. Carla Antonation, Trilogy Tree Services Jesse Antonation, Arboriculture Canada Training The findings of the Auditor General's report are Gerry Engel, Trees Winnipeg very alarming. The report indicates that despite a Harold Froese, Private Citizen global focus on addressing climate change, Manitoba Moe Feakes, Private Citizen has seen little change in greenhouse gas emissions Cory Rybuck, Manitoba Egg Farmers over the past decade. Inaction and a lack of Ardythe Basham, Private Citizen engagement on this issue have long-lasting and Robert G Mears, Private Citizen negative effects on our province. Elizabeth Cameron, Private Citizen The Auditor General found significant gaps Molly McCracken, Private Citizen in managing climate change and in following Bill Considered and Reported targets the previous