סימן “ ו סעיף ב -‘ סימן “ ז סעיף ב ‘ “כ ו אייר, תשפ“א Shabbos, May 8, 2021 Overview Halacha Highlight Siman 56 Seif 2: Bowing during and taking three steps after kaddish The . אמן the tzibbur should answer יתברך When the shaliach tzibbur says Shulchan Aruch Siman 56 Seif 4 כשאומר החזן יתגדל כורע בריך הוא when the shaliach tzibbur says אמן tzibbur should also answer he should bow יתגדל or When the chazzan says יתברך after אמן We are not accustomed to answer . ואמרו אמן and לעלא מכל and בריך הוא One should not interrupt between . בריך הוא after writes that the shaliach tzibbur should bow when (סע' ד') Shulchan Aruch . ברכתא וכו' Although . אמן and יתגדל , יהא שמה רבא , יתברך , בריך הוא :he says the words . יתגדל ויתקדש שמה רבא to the phrase אמן The custom is to answer there are many opinions amongst the Rishonim regarding the number of (M.B. 12) times one should bow and at which words one should bow, Bais Yosef after the shaliach tzibbur בריך הוא Our custom is to repeat the words cites Kol Bo and Avudraham that one should bow at the five places men- reads those words. (M.B. 13) tioned above. Interestingly, Chavos Yair in his work Mikor Chaim Sha’arei Teshuvah quotes authorities who maintain that the phrase wondered why people are not more careful to bow at these (קיצור הלכות) and then one should pause קודשא is connected to the word בריך הוא places when saying kaddish , especially since Tur characterized these bows (M.B. 14) . לעלא וכו' before beginning as obligatory. Vilna Gaon, however, ruled that one should not bow while Siman 56 Seif 3: saying kaddish . The reason he gives is the concern that bowing during are לעלמי עלמיא Those who conclude their response with the words kaddish would involve adding to the number of bows enacted by Chazal from the עלמיא mistaken because it is prohibited to separate the word suggests that (סע' ז') Aruch HaShulchan . (ביאור הגר"א סק"י ומעשה רב אות "ו) . יתברך word if one bows his head only slightly he fulfills the opinion that mandates The Bais Yosef implies that the tzibbur reads all the way to the words bowing but does not run the risk of adding to Chazal’s enactment regard- .words in all but Magen Avrohom indicates that the ing the number of times one should bow 28 , דאמירן בעלמא ancient custom is more authoritative and the tzibbur’s response also writes that after kaddish one should take three (סע' ה') Biur HaGra asserts that the response Shulchan Aruch . יתברך concludes with the words (סי' ט"ז ס"ק י"ז) Ketzos HaShulchan . עושה שלום במרומיו וכו' It would appear that if one reads the word steps and then say . עלמיא ends with the word in a second breath it is acceptable. In the event that one is notes that Bais Yosef’s wording implies that anyone who says kaddish is יתברך answering in a place where one is not permitted to interrupt for required to take these three steps after kaddish . The significance of this is -M.B. 15) that the source for this requirement is Terumas HaDeshen who was dis) . עלמיא mundane matters one should conclude with the word Siman 56 Seif 4: cussing kaddish tiskabel and there are numerous authorities who main- . he should bow as he should when he says tain that the requirement to take three steps is limited to kaddish tiskabel יתגדל When the chazzan says The reason the requirement would be limited to kaddish tiskabel is that ... אמן and יהא שמה רבא, יתברך, בריך הוא Siman 56 Seif 5: this kaddish is said after chazaras hashatz and these three steps are the After finishing kaddish one should take three steps back and say steps the shaliach tzibbur must take at the end of the amidah . Neverthe- less, since we do not find Poskim , in general, making this distinction and . עשה שלום וכו' Siman 57 Seif 1: it is clear from the practice of people that anyone who says kaddish takes . (ע"ע פסקי תשובות אות י') and the tzibbur responds three steps one should follow that general custom ברכו את ה' המברך The shaliach tzibbur says and then the shaliach tzibbur repeats the words ברוך ה' המברך לעולם ועד unlike Sefard or , בריך הוא The custom is that the shaliach tzibbur extends the that Ashkenazic custom is not to say amen for . ברוך ה' המברך לעולם ועד while davening with a בריך הוא Sefaradi. Although he was reluctant to say יתברך וישתבח וכו' so that the tzibbur could say ברכו reading of the word against his own אמן he was equally loath to say , אמן during that time. nussach that says .out loud. (M.B. 1) custom ברכו The shaliach tzibbur should say When Rav Avraham Chaim Changel, shlit”a, asked this question to he should answer with ברוך ה' המברך וכו' If one hears the tzibbur say as per בריך הוא Rav Chaim Kanievsky, shlit”a, he ruled that he should say them even though he did not hear the shaliach tzibbur but if he only his custom. “But you should this in a low tone so that no one hears.” דולה ומשקה, ע' "ו he should merely ברוך ה' המברך וכו' hears the shaliach tzibbur say M.B. 2) This follows the Steipler Gaon’s own practice. Although he would) . אמן answer is said while the chazzan is singing the tune daven in Lederer’s shul, which davened nusach Ashkenaz, he himself יתברך וישתבח The phrase but while he is saying words the tzibbur should be silent. In the event came from a chassidic family and davened Sefard. For any response that it is best for the tzibbur had to be said aloud, the Steipler followed the shul’s practice rather than ברכו that the shaliach tzibbur does not extend -M.B. 5) his own. But he recited all other parts of the prayers according to his reg) . ברוך ה' המברך וכו' to be silent so that they may answer Siman 57 Seif 2: ular nusach. אורחות רביו, ח"א, ע' מ"ח -A place that has the custom to allow one to rebuke their friends or ad is mistaken. On another occasion Rav Changel wondered about a person who יוצר אור and ברכו , dress public matters between kaddish davens nusach Ashkenaz and finds himself in a Sefard or Sefaradi min- yan when he must say kaddish for a departed relative. Unless the two say kaddish at different speeds, the one who says kaddish in nusach Ashke- The same thing . ויצמך פורקיה Stories to Share naz will get ahead, since he does not say . יהא שלמא רבא will occur when they reach the addition in nusach Sefard to Local Custom He posed a question to Rav Kanievsky, “Should the person who davens רמ"א ס' "ו, ב': "ולא הגו לומר אמן אחר יתברך ולא אחר בריך הוא..." nusach Ashkenaz wait for one reciting kaddish in nusach Sefard or Se- A certain person who davened nusach Ashkenaz often found himself faradi at every relevant clause so that they say amen together?” praying with a minyan that followed nussach Sefard. He wondered what he As usual, Rav Chaim’s was clear and to the point. “He should wait.” דולה ומשקה, ע' "ה As we find on today’s amud, the Rema writes . בריך הוא should do regarding .