THE SENATE OF PAKISTAN DEBATES OFFICIAL REPORT Tuesday, June 15, 2010 (62 nd Session) Volume VI No. 09 (Nos. 1-12) CONTENTS Pages 1. Recitation from the Holy Quran............................................ 1 2. Point of Order: Law and Order Situation in Karachi….……. 2-3 3. Leave of Absence………………………………….……….. 4 4. Point of Order: Law and Order Situation in Karachi (Contd.). 4-11 5. Further Discussion on the Finance Bill 2010-11…………….. 12-50 Printed and Published by the Senate Secretariat, Islamabad. Volume VI SP. VI(09)/2010 No. 09 130 1 SENATE OF PAKISTAN SENATE DEBATES Tuesday, June 15, 2010 The Senate of Pakistan met in the Senate Hall (Parliament House) Islamabad at seven minutes past eleven in the morning with Mr. Deputy Chairman (Mr. Jan Muhammad Khan Jamali) in the Chair. --------------- Recitation from the Holy Quran ‰ ‰ ƒ Ê „ª‚ *+ , " ' " , - " . #/ ! "# #! " "$% "& " ' ( ) <& = "02 " ' ; 89: ' 3 4 ",02 57 6 "0 % " *12 " & " ; 89G 7 ! $ >?@0 AB C# &D@0 32 <?%' E? 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