Second Session- Thirty-Seventh Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. LI No. 53 - 1:30 p.m., Tuesday, June 26, 2001 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Seventh Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. ASPER, Linda Riel N.D.P. BARREIT,Becky, Hon. Inkster N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew, Hon. Brandon East N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUAY, Louise Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FRIESEN, Jean, Hon. Wolseley N.D.P. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold Minnedosa P.C. HELWER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LATHLIN,Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. N.D.P. MALOWAY,Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn,Hon. Minto P.C. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. MURRAY, Stuart Kirkfield Park N.D.P. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake P.C. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PENNER, Jim Steinbach P.C. PITURA, Frank Morris P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren Lac du Bonnet N.D.P. REID, Daryl Transcona P.C. REIMER, Jack Southdale N.D.P. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland P.C. ROCAN, Denis Carman N.D.P. RONDEAU,Jim Assiniboia N.D.P. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Rossmere P.C. SCHULER, Ron Springfield N.D.P. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface P.C. SMITH, Joy Fort Garry N.D.P. SMITH, Scott, Hon. Brandon West P.C. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo N.D.P. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain N.D.P. WOWCHUK, Rosano, Hon. Swan River 3247 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Tuesday, June 26, 2001 The House met at 1:30 p.m. THAT vehicles which have to wait for trains at · this intersection bum up approximately PRAYERS $1.4 million in fuel, pollute the environment with over 8 tons of emissions and cause ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS approximately $7.3 million in motorist delays every year. PRESENTING PETITIONS WHEREFORE YOUR PETITIONERS Kenaston Underpass HUMBLY PRAY THAT the Premier of Manitoba consider reversing his decision to not Mr. John Loewen (Fort Whyte): Mr. Speaker, support construction of an underpass at I beg to present the petition of Jack Blair, Roma Kenaston and Wilkes. Rajpal, Norm Cunningham and others, praying that the Premier of Manitoba (Mr. Doer) Mr. Speaker: The honourable Member for consider reversing his decision to not support Charleswood (Mrs. Driedger), I have reviewed construction of an underpass at Kenaston and the petition, and it complies with the rules and Wilkes. practices of the House. Is it the will of the House to have the petition read? [Agreed] Mrs. Myrna Driedger (Charleswood): Mr. Speaker, I beg to present the petition of Nikki Madam Clerk: The petition of the undersigned Lonamuir, R. McNeil, D. Nelson and others, citizens of the province of Manitoba humbly praying that the Premier of Manitoba consider sheweth: reversing his decision to not support THAT the intersection at Wilkes and construction of an underpass at Kenaston and Kenaston has grown to become the largest Wilkes. unseparated crossing in Canada; and READINGAND RECEIVING PETITIONS THAT the volume of traffic for this railroad crossing is twelve times the acceptable limit as Kenaston Underpass set out by Transport Canada; and THAT vehicles which have to wait for trains Mr. Speaker: The honourable Member for Fort at this intersection bum up approximately Whyte (Mr. Loewen), I have reviewed the $1.4 million in fuel, pollute the environment petition, and it complies with the rules and with over 8 tons of emissions and cause practices of the House. Is it the will of the House approximately $7.3 million in motorist delays to have the petition read? [Agreed] every year. Madam Clerk (Patricia Chaychuk): The WHEREFORE YOUR PETITIONERS petition of the undersigned citizens of the HUMBLY PRAY THAT the Premier of province of Manitoba humbly sheweth: Manitoba consider reversing his decision to not support construction of an underpass at THAT the intersection at Wilkes and Kenaston and Wilkes. Kenaston has grown to become the largest * (13:35) unseparated crossing in Canada; and TABLING OF REPORTS THAT the volume of traffic for this railroad crossing is twelve times the acceptable limit as Mr. Speaker: I am pleased to table in the House set out by Transport Canada; and the reports of members' expenses for the year 3248 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA June 26,2001 ended March 3I, 200I, in compliance with located in the constituency of the honourable section 38(1) of the Indemnities, Allowances and Member for Radisson (Ms. Cerilli). Retirement Benefits Regulation. Also in the public gallery we have, from INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Red River College, the Language Training Centre, I9 students under the direction of Ms. Bi11 47-The Budget Implementation and Tax Blanche Kingdon. This school is located in the Statutes Amendment Act, 2001 constituency of the honourable Minister of Family Services and Housing (Mr. Sale). Hon. Greg Selinger (Minister of Finance): move, seconded by the Minister of Justice On behalf of all honourable members, (Mr. Mackintosh), that leave be given to welcome you here today. introduce Bill 47, The Budget Implementation and Tax Statutes Amendment Act, 200I; Loi ORAL QUESTION PERIOD d'execution du budget de 200I et modifiant diverses dispositions legislatives en matiere de Health Care System fiscalite. Hallway Medicine His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor, Mr. Stuart Murray (Leader of the Official having been advised of the contents of this bill, Opposition): Mr. Speaker, Manitobans are only recommends it to the House. I would like to too aware that the Premier broke his main table the Lieutenant-Governor's message. election promise that he was going to solve the health care woes of Manitoba in a mere six Mr. Speaker: It has been moved by the months. Since improvements that were made in honourable Minister of Finance, seconded by the I999, the situation has only got worse. I would honourable Attorney General (Mr. Mackintosh), like to table these documents and read them into that leave be given to introduce Bill 47, The the record, if I might, please. Budget Implementation and Tax Statutes Amendment Act, 200 I, and that the same be On these documents I am tabling, it shows now received and read a first time. His Honour that from the Web site June 4 to I 0, in I999, the Lieutenant-Governor, having been advised of there were three patients, average number of the contents of the bill, recommends it to the admitted patients in hallways; in 2001, there are House, and the message has been tabled. seven; June I1 to June I7, in I999, there were five; in the year 200I, under the NDP, twelve. Motion agreed to. This morning, there were ten in the hallways at Concordia; there were nine in the hallways at St. Introduction of Guests Boniface Hospital; and there is a number at other hospitals still in the hallways. Mr. Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, I would * (13:40) like to draw the attention of all honourable members to the Speaker's Gallery where we have My question, Mr. Speaker, to the Premier is: with us Sarjit Kaur from Melbourne, Australia. When will he keep his main election promise that he committed to Manitobans? He committed Also, in the public gallery, we have, from to solve hallway medicine. When will the Glenboro School, I6 Grade 6 students under the Premier keep that promise? direction of Mrs. Marilyn Cullen. This school is located in the constituency of the honourable Hon. Gary Doer (Premier): Mr. Speaker, it is Member for Turtle Mountain (Mr. Tweed). on the Web site because we put it on the Web site. Members opposite have the statistics- Also in the public gallery we have, from Ecole Regent-Park, 20 Grades 5 to 8 students Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. under the direction of Mr. Alain Fradet and Madame Lucienne Lavallee. This school is Mr. Speaker: Order. June 26, 2001 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 3249 Mr. Doer: The statistics are released on a numbers of nurses graduating in Manitoba than weekly basis, and we certainly believe that it is in 1999 when the members left office. We have important for the public to be able to evaluate increased the enrolment of doctors in our over the period of time, over the first 18 months medical school. The member may not realize it and moving into the next 18 months and the but it takes six or seven years to have a doctor third 18 months the full record of improvement. graduate in Manitoba, but it is better to start today because we have to make up for the The members opposite will know from cutbacks in the medical entry in the early '90s.