LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF SASKATCHEWAN First Session — Fifteenth Legislature 19th Day Tuesday, March 2, 1965 The Assembly met at 2:30 p.m. o'clock On the Orders of the Day ANNOUNCEMENT RE SALE OF PURPLE GAS BY SERVICE STATIONS Hon. W. Ross Thatcher (Premier): — Mr. Speaker, before the Orders of the Day, I would like to make one very brief comment. It has come to the attention of the government that some dealers throughout Saskatchewan are selling purple gasoline from service station pumps. In most cases this is through lack of knowledge of the new act. However, I must point out that such sales are completely illegal and there are substantial fines involved for infractions of the law. Some operators may purchase purple gasoline from bulk dealers only, but under no circumstances may tax-free gasoline be sold through pumps at service stations, and I am sure dealers will wish to co-operate with the government in this regard. WELCOME TO STUDENTS Mr. Henry Baker (Regina East): — Mr. Speaker, I would like at this time to extend a welcome, through you, to a group of fine young students in the Speakers Gallery, from the St. Marks separate school, in the Glen Elm Park district. Mr. Yano, their principal is here with them. You know this school is in the finest constituency in Regina, namely Regina East. We want to welcome them most sincerely. Mr. Yano has always taken a great interest in his students to see that they visit and watch the legislative bodies in action. I think he has been here before with another class sometime in the past. We welcome them and hope they will enjoy their stay here this afternoon, and I am sure some day amongst them we will find future members for this legislative assembly. Hon. Members: — Hear, hear! Mr. W. Smishek (Regina East): — Mr. Speaker, before Orders of the Day, I, too, want to join with my colleagues in extending a welcome to the twenty-seven grade seven and eight students who are here from St. Marks school with their teacher, Mr. Yano. On behalf of the assembly, may I express the hope that their stay here today will be both informative and pleasant. STATEMENT BY MR. SMISHEK RE LABOR DONE ON HOME Mr. Smishek: — Mr. Speaker, yesterday the Minister of Labor (Mr. Coderre) in his address charged that I was a poor example of my principles because he had heard that I was getting work done on my house by a "scab" building contractor who did not possess the qualifications for the job. Mr. Speaker, I wish to file with the clerk, a Photostat copy of a Journeyman's Licence and Contractor's Licence, both are issued for 1965, under the authority of the Minister of Labour (Mr. Coderre). Further on checking with the Department of Labour, they state they have no information on any housebuilding contractors having union contracts in the city of Regina, or for that matter in the province. The unions concur with this. The imputations of the minister were damaging to me and to my reputation in the light of my employment and my belief in labor organizations. They are also damaging to other citizens of the province . An Hon. Member: — Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. A.H. McDonald (Minister of Agriculture): — Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker: — Order! There is a point of order raised. Take your point of order. Mr. McDonald (Moosomin): — My point of order is that the hon. member for Regina East (Mr. Smishek) is out of order. He has made a speech in this debate and this 777 March 2, 1965 is no time for him to be making a speech as he is doing at this moment. He is completely out of order. An Hon. Member: — Mr. Speaker, the hon. member is speaking on a point of privilege and he is quite within his rights. An Hon. Member: — Mr. Speaker, he said that he was speaking on a point of order, and that is not a point of order. Mr. Smishek: — In view of the facts that I have now stated, I ask the minister to make an outright withdrawal of his statement concerning myself and the contractor concerned. Mr. McDonald (Moosomin): — Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I would like a ruling from you as to whether the hon. member is in order or not. Mr. Speaker: — Well, I think it is a fairly well known fact that if a person wishes to correct a statement, he can do so before the Orders of the Day, but he should have risen on a question of privilege instead of sort of slipping this thing around the corner when he was introducing the students. It would have been a lot better if it had been done that way. Now, we cannot have a debate on this, you understand. Are you finished stating your point of privilege. Mr. Smishek: — Mr. Speaker, on a point of privilege, I would ask the minister to make an outright withdrawal of his statement concerning both myself and the contractor concerned in matters referred to previously. Some Hon. Members: — Hear, hear! Mr. J.H. Brockelbank (Acting Leader of the Opposition, Kelsey): — Mr. Speaker, on this . Mr. Speaker: — I recognize the lady member for Saskatoon. WELCOME TO STUDENTS Mrs. Merchant: — Mr. Speaker, I regret that I take the floor from the Leader of the Opposition, but I think I do it for very good purposes. We have a group of school children from Regina, and I cannot say whether the group of children that I would like to draw attention to are superior children but I would point out that they come from a very much superior city. They are from Saskatoon, from King George school, and we all want to greet them here today with their teacher, Mrs. Sutherland. I should add that I am quite pleased that they have witnessed here some of the actual operations of the house, back and forth. Embarrassing though it may be within the house from time to time, I think it is interesting for young people to see that this goes on. Hon. Members: — Hear, hear! Mr. Harry D. Link (Saskatoon City): — Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the other four members on this side of the house I would like to add our word of welcome to the students from King George School and to the teacher, Mrs. Sutherland. We hope this visit will be very pleasant and very informative. QUESTION RE SELECT STANDING COMMITTEE ON CROWN CORPORATIONS Mr. Brockelbank (Kelsey): — Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to ask the Premier a question in connection with the motion by the member for Wilkie (Mr. McIsaac) just now, concerning members of the Select Standing Committee on Crown Corporations. It is unlikely for a few weeks that the Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Lloyd, will be with us. Could we have the consent of the house to strike his name off the Crown Corporations Committee or add somebody? He will not be here for a few weeks yet. Mr. Thatcher: — The government certainly would be in agreement with that. 778 March 2, 1965 QUESTION RE APPOINTMENT OF GENERAL MANAGER FOR THE SASKATCHEWAN FOREST PRODUCTS Mr. A.E. Blakeney (Regina West): — Mr. Speaker, before Orders of the Day are proceeded with, I wonder if I might direct a question to the Hon. Minister of Natural Resources, (Mr. Cuelenaere). The other day he made an announcement with respect to the appointment of a general manager of the Saskatchewan Forest Products. I wonder if he would advise the house by whom the appointment was made, and advise whether he recalls the date of the Board meeting at which the decision was made. Hon. D.G. Steuart (Minister of Health): — Why ask the question now, it should have been given notice. Hon. J.M. Cuelenaere (Minister of Natural Resources): — Well, I will accept that as notice . Hon. Lionel Coderre (Minister of Labour): — Mr. Speaker, before Orders of the Day are proceeded with, I thought I should lay on the table, for distribution, the classification of industries — that famous question that was not answered. Mr. Brockelbank (Kelsey): — Mr. Speaker, I want to express my thanks to the Hon. Minister of Labour. Mr. Smishek: — Mr. Speaker, on a point of privilege, I must rise again and ask for the withdrawal of the statement made by the Hon. Minister of Labour. Mr. Speaker: — I am sorry, the member can ask for a withdrawal. The member can rise on a point of privilege — what the minister or somebody else does is up to them, and we cannot have a debate on it save by substantive motion. Who was next here? Mr. Coderre: — On the point of order, I think the matter under question is a debatable question and it is just a question of a matter of opinion. This is his opinion he is expressing, I have the facts. Mr. I.C. Nollet (Cut Knife): — A typical answer. Some Hon. Members: — Hear, hear! BUDGET DEBATE The assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion of Mr. Thatcher, that Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair, and the proposed amendment thereto by Mr. Blakeney, and the proposed sub-amendment thereto by Mr. Michayluk. Mr. Frank K. Radloff (Nipawin): — Mr. Speaker and members of the legislature, I will continue my remarks on the debate on the budget motion, as outlined by the Premier and Provincial Treasurer (Mr. Thatcher) of this province and I will repeat the remarks that I made of the tremendous feeling of pride I have in being associated with a man who is determined to fulfil his promises and the predictions that he made prior to the election.