1 SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA 2 COUNTY OF ALAMEDA 3 BEFORE THE HONORABLE WINIFRED Y. SMITH, JUDGE PRESIDING 4 DEPARTMENT NUMBER 21 5 -- oOo--- 6 COORDINATION PROCEEDING ) SPECIAL TITLE (RULE 3.550) ) 7 ) ROUNDUP PRODUCTS CASE ) JCCP No. 4953 8 ) _______________________________ ) 9 ) THIS TRANSCRIPT RELATES TO: ) 10 ) Pilliod, et al. ) Case No. RG17862702 11 v s . ) Monsanto Company, et al. ) Pages 1533 - 1833 12 ________________________________ ) Volume 12 13 14 15 Reporter's Transcript of Proceedings 16 Tuesday, April 2, 2019 17 18 Reported by: Kelly L. Shainline, CSR No. 13476, RPR, CRR 19 Lori Stokes, CSR No. 12732, RPR Court Reporters 20 21 22 23 BAY AREA REPORTING 24 SOLUTIONS 25 888.526.8243 v.ww B.iyAro^ReporlingSolulions coin 1533 1 APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL: 2 3 For Plaintiffs: 4 THE MILLER FIRM, LLC 108 Railroad Avenue 5 Orange, Virgina 22960 (540)672-4224 6 BY: MICHAEL J. MILLER, ATTORNEY AT LAW [email protected] 7 8 BAUM HEDLUND ARISTEI & GOLDMAN PC 10940 Wilshire Boulevard, 17th Floor 9 Los Angeles, California 90024 (310) 207-3233 10 BY: R. BRENT WISNER, ATTORNEY AT LAW [email protected] 11 PEDRAM E S FANDIARY, ATTORNEY AT LAW [email protected] 12 13 AUDET Sc PARTNERS, LLP 221 Main Street, Suite 1460 14 San Francisco, California 94105 (415)568-2555 15 BY: MARK BURTON, ATTORNEY AT LAW [email protected] 16 17 18 (APPEARANCES CONTINUED ON FOLLOWING PAGE) 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1534 1 APPEARANCES : (CONTINUED) 2 For Defendants: 3 EVANS FEARS & SCHUTTERT LLP 2300 W. Sahara Ave, Suite 950 4 Las Vegas, Nevada 89102 (702) 805-0290 5 BY: KELLY A. EVANS, ATTORNEY AT LAW [email protected] 6 HINSHAW 7 One California Street, 18th Floor San Francisco, California 94111 8 (415) 362-6000 BY: EUGENE BROWN JR., ATTORNEY AT LAW 9 [email protected] 10 GOLDMAN ISMAIL TOMASELLI BRENNAN & BAUM LLP 564 West Randolph Street, Suite 400 11 Chicago, Illinois 60661 (312) 681-6000 12 BY: TAREK ISMAIL, ATTORNEY AT LAW [email protected] 13 14 15 (Multiple other counsel present as reflected in the minutes.) 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1535 1 INDEX 2 Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3 PLAINTIFFS' WITNESSES PAGE VOL 4 5 PORTIER, CHRISTOPHER - 402 Hearing 6 Direct Examination by Mr . Wisner 1567 12 Cross-Examination by Mr. Ismail 1570 12 7 Redirect Examination by Mr. Wisner 1572 12 8 PORTIER, CHRISTOPHER 9 Direct Examination by Mr . Wisner 1577 12 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1536 1 Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:45 a.m. 2 (Proceedings commenced in chambers out of the 3 presence of the jury.) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1537 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1538 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1539 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1540 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1541 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1542 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1543 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1544 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1545 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1546 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1547 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1548 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1549 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1550 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1551 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1552 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1553 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1554 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1555 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1556 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1557 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1558 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1559 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1560 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1561 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1562 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1563 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1564 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1565 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (End of proceedings in chambers.) 17 (Recess taken at 9:19 a.m.) 18 (Proceedings resumed in open court out of the 19 presence of the jury at 9:29 a.m.) 20 THE COURT: We're back on the record. 21 Pilliod versus Monsanto. And Mr. Wisner, we 22 were going to conduct a short hearing this morning. 23 MR. WISNER: Yes, Your Honor. We'd like to 24 conduct a 402 hearing. We'd like to have Christopher 25 Portier take the stand and testify outside the presence 1566 1 of the jury. 2 THE COURT: All right. Will you swear in 3 Dr. Portier. 4 THE WITNESS: Good morning, Your Honor. 5 THE CLERK: Sir, if you would please raise 6 your right hand. 7 CHRISTOPHER PORTIER, 8 called as a witness for the plaintiffs, having been duly 9 sworn, testified as follows: 10 THE WITNESS: I do. 11 THE CLERK: Thank you. Please be seated. 12 Would you please state and spell your name for 13 the record. 14 THE WITNESS: Christopher Portier. 15 MR. WISNER: Spell your last for the record. 16 THE WITNESS: Oh, sorry. I didn't hear that. 17 P-O-R-T-I-E-R. 18 MR. WISNER: May I proceed, Your Honor? 19 THE COURT: Yes, you may. 20 DIRECT EXAMINATION 21 BY MR. WISNER: 22 Q. Good morning, Doctor. 23 A. Good morning. 24 Q. The purpose of this short hearing here is to 25 discuss a specific issue we discussed yesterday, and I 1567 1 want to give the Court a chance to hear what you have to 2 say about it. 3 Specifically yesterday did you have a chance 4 to review some of the testimony by Dr. Bill Reeves, 5 Michael Koch, and Donna Farmer? 6 A. Yes, I did. 7 Q. And was that testimony specifically about 8 whether it's possible to conduct a long-term rodent 9 study on a formulated product like Roundup? 10 A. Yes, it was. 11 Q. Do you have an opinion about that? 12 A. In terms of being able to do that type of 13 study, yes, of course, you can do that study. 14 Q. And why is that, sir? 15 A. Well, there are -- you can administer the 16 material to the rats and mice.