1 Formal Minutes of the Committee, Session 2008-09 TUESDAY 9 DECEMBER 2008 Members present: Dr Hywel Francis, in the Chair Mr David Jones Mark Pritchard Alun Michael 1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter. 2. The provision of cross-border public services for Wales: Health The Committee considered this matter. 3. Visit to the Severn tunnel The Committee considered this matter. 4. The provision of cross-border public services for Wales The Committee considered this matter. Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the following witnesses relating to the provision of cross-border public services for Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Anglesey County Council Bristol Airport Manchester Airport Railfuture Steve Hodgetts, Business Development Director, Cardiff International Airport, Bob Longworth, Ground Transport Manager, Manchester Airport, and Martin Evans, External Research Fellow, Wales Transport Research Centre, University of Glamorgan, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned until Monday 15 December at 2 p.m. 2 MONDAY 15 DECEMBER 2008 Meeting at the National Assembly for Wales, Cardiff Bay Members present: Dr Hywel Francis, in the Chair Alun Michael Mark Williams Hywel Williams 1. The proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Agriculture and Rural Development) Order 2008 The Committee considered this matter. Elin Jones AM, Minister for Rural Affairs, Huw Brodie, Director of Rural Affairs, and Dorian Brunt, Legal Services, Welsh Assembly Government; Wayne David MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Geth Williams, Policy Adviser, Wales Office, and Bill Scriven, Head of Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board, DEFRA, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned until Tuesday 16 December at 10 a.m. TUESDAY 16 DECEMBER 2008 Members present: Dr Hywel Francis, in the Chair Mr David Jones Alun Michael Mr Martyn Jones Hywel Williams 1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter. 2. The proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Social Welfare) Order 2009 relating to carers The Chairman declared an interest in relation to this inquiry as Vice-president of Carers UK, a sponsor of the Carers (Equal Opportunities) Bill, Session 2003-04. 3 The Committee considered this matter. The Committee noted that the Secretary of State had written to the Chairman inviting the Committee to conduct pre-legislative scrutiny of the proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Social Welfare) Order 2009 dealing with carers. Resolved, that the Committee conduct pre-legislative scrutiny on the proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Social Welfare) Order 2009 dealing with carers. Ordered, That Professor Luke Clements, Cardiff Law School, be appointed Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in its inquiry into the proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Social Welfare) Order 2009 dealing with carers. 3. Digital inclusion The Committee considered this matter. 4. Chairman’s Report: The provision of cross border public services for Wales: Further and Higher Education The Committee discussed informally the Chairman’s Report. Report (The provision of cross border public services for Wales: Further and Higher Education) proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read. Ordered, That the Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph. Paragraphs 1 to 110 read and agreed to. Summary agreed to. Resolved, That the Report be the First Report of the Committee to the House. Written evidence was ordered to be reported to the House for printing with the Report. Ordered, That the Chairman make the Report to the House. Ordered, That embargoed copies of the Report be made available, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 134. [Adjourned until Tuesday 13 January at 10 a.m. 4 TUESDAY 13 JANUARY 2009 Members present: Dr Hywel Francis, in the Chair Mrs Siân James Alun Michael Mr David Jones Mark Williams 1. Future Programme The Committee considered this matter. 2. Legislative Competence Orders in Council The Committee considered this matter. 3. Globalisation and its impact on Wales The Committee considered this matter. [Adjourned until Monday 19 January at 3 p.m. MONDAY 19 JANUARY 2009 Meeting at Newport International Sports Village Members present: Dr Hywel Francis, in the Chair Nia Griffith Hywel Williams 1. Potential benefits of the 2012 Olympics and Paralympics for Wales The Committee considered this matter. Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the following witnesses relating to the potential benefits of the 2012 Olympics and Paralympics for Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Councillor Alana Davies Fields in Trust 5 Union of Welsh Independent Churches Sports Council Wales Welsh Sports Association WLGA Welsh Assembly Government Wales Tourism Alliance Visit Britain Federation of Disability Sport Wales DCMS British Olympic Association 2. Legal Services Commission Cardiff Office The Committee considered this matter. 3. Potential benefits of the 2012 Olympics and Paralympics for Wales The Committee considered this matter. The Chairman declared an interest in that the Afan Forest Park biking trails are in his constituency. Gareth John, Chairman, Jon Morgan, Executive Director, Federation of Disability Sport Wales; Philip Carling, Chairman, Huw G Jones, Chief Executive, Sports Council Wales; Alun Ffred Jones AM, Minister for Heritage, and Arthur Emyr, Wales Nations and Regions Co-ordinator, Welsh Assembly Government, gave oral evidence. [Adjourned until Tuesday 27 January at 10 a.m. TUESDAY 27 JANUARY 2009 Members present: Dr Hywel Francis, in the Chair Mr David Jones Hywel Williams Alun Michael Mark Williams Mark Pritchard 1. Future programme The Committee considered this matter. 6 Resolved, That the Committee visit Estonia, Finland and Sweden, and that the Chairman seek the approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said visit. 2. Special Report, (The draft National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Housing) Order 2008: Government response to the Committee’s Seventh Report of Session 2007-08) Special Report, (The proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Housing) Order 2008: Government response to the Committee’s Seventh Report of Session 2007-08), proposed by the Chairman, brought up, read the first and second time and agreed to. Resolved, That the Report be the First Special Report of the Committee to the House. Ordered, That the Chairman make the Report to the House. Ordered, That the Government’s Response to the Seventh Report from the Committee, the draft Order and the Explanatory Memorandum be appended to the Report. 2. The proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Social Welfare) Order 2009 relating to carers Ordered, That Mr Jonathan Rees be appointed Special Adviser to assist the Committee in its inquiry into the proposed National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Social Welfare) Order 2009 relating to carers. 3. Legal Services Commission Cardiff Office The Committee considered this matter. Resolved, That the Committee undertake an inquiry into the decision to transfer business support for civil legal aid work out of Wales. 4. All Wales Convention The Committee considered this matter. 5. Potential benefits of the 2012 Olympics and Paralympics for Wales The Committee considered this matter. Rt Hon Tessa Jowell MP, Minister for the Olympics and Paralympics, and Alan Bucknall, Government Olympic Executive, Head of Olympic Legacy, Department of Culture, Media and Sport, gave oral evidence. 7 6. Chairman’s Report: Globalisation and its impact on Wales The Committee discussed informally the Chairman’s Report. Report (Globalisation and its impact on Wales) proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read. Ordered, That the Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph. Paragraphs 1 to 279 read and agreed to. Summary agreed to. Resolved, That the Report be the Second Report of the Committee to the House. Ordered, That the Chairman make the Report to the House. Written evidence was ordered to be reported to the House for printing with the Report, together with written evidence reported and ordered to be published on 30 January, 6, 20 and 27 February, 13 March, 17 and 24 April, 9, 14 and 22 May, 5, 12, 19 and 26 June, and 3, 17 and 24 July 2007 (Session 2006-07), 13, 20 and 27 November, 3 and 11 December 2007, and 15, 22 and 29 January, 5 and 26 February and 1 July 2008 (in the last Session of Parliament). Ordered, That embargoed copies of the Report be made available, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 134. 7. Welsh Language Society The Committee considered this matter. 8. The provision of cross border health services for Wales: Interim Report: Government Reply to the Committee’s Sixth Report of Session 2007-08 The Committee considered this matter. 9. Higher Education Wales Breakfast The Committee considered this matter. [Adjourned until Tuesday 10 February at 10 a.m. # 8 TUESDAY 10 FEBRUARY 2009 Members present: Dr Hywel Francis, in the Chair Mark Pritchard Mark Williams Hywel Williams 1. The provision of cross border public services in Wales The Committee considered this matter. Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the following witnesses relating to the provision of cross border public services in Wales be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Birmingham International Airport First Cymru Buses Liverpool Airport