DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THETHE SECOND THIRD MEETING MEETING OF THE OF FIRST THE SESSIONFIFTH SESSION OF THE OF THE ELEVENTWELFTH PARLIAMENTTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 14 SEPTEMBER 2020 ENGLISHMIXED VERSION VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO. NO: 193 198 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. (Opposition Whip) Tonota Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South (Independent Member of Parliament) Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West TABLE OF CONTENTS THE THIRD MEETING OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 14 SEPTEMBER, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...................................................................................................................1-7 QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE.......................................................................................................................8-12 TABLING OF PAPER Report on The Request for Authorisation to Increase The Bond Issuance Programme from P15 Billion Limit to P30 Billion....................................................................12 STATEMENT Directorate on Corruption and Economic Crime (DCEC)...................................................................................13-19 Monday 14th September, 2020 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Monday 14th September, 2020 HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… THE ASSEMBLY met at 14:00 p.m. DR GOBOTSWANG: He says he cannot hear clearly. Can you hear me sir? (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) MR GARE: Yes sir. P R A Y E R S DR GOBOTSWANG: The 2016 decision contradicted * * * * the 1974 Act that you were talking about. The main QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER complaint from small and medium businesses is that BAMB is now making things difficult for them. Although DEVIATION OF BOTSWANA AGRICULTURAL your reasoning is valid, is there any programme through MARKETING BOARD (BAMB) FROM ITS which Government assists these small and medium ORIGINAL MANDATE businesses? Lastly, for you to sell vaccines, there are certain procedures that should be followed. You should DR K. GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- RAMOKGONAMI): asked the Minister of Agricultural have a licence. So, does BAMB has a licence to sell Development and Food Security to state if he is aware livestock vaccines? Thank you Mr Speaker. that the Botswana Agricultural Marketing Board (BAMB) may have deviated from its original mandate MR GARE: I thank you Mr Speaker. There was some by now becoming a notable player in the livestock noise earlier. I think his question was whether I am sector, offering veterinary services such as livestock aware that this Act contradicts us to allow BAMB to supplements. offer such services. Let me indicate that BAMB Act, Part 3, Section 10.3 (i) allows the BAMB to carry these MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR activities. Therefore, in our understanding of this Act, GARE): Thank you. Good afternoon Mr Speaker. Mr BAMB is within its jurisdiction to sell livestock feed Speaker, let me indicate that Botswana Agricultural and supplements. Marketing Board (BAMB) is established by an Act of Parliament, No. 2 of 1974. Its mandate is to provide a The second question in which you said are we aware market for locally grown scheduled crops and to ensure that it makes things difficult for small and medium that there are adequate supplies for Batswana at all businesses, perhaps the Honourable Member can explain times. in detail how it makes things difficult for them so that I Mr Speaker, according to this Act, it does not indicate do not assume, so that I can answer appropriately. that Marketing Board has deviated from its mandate In terms of how we assist farmers, I believe we assist by extending to Veterinary Services. In 2016, BAMB them in the sense that if I understood the Honourable responsibilities were extended to cover Veterinary Services when the Livestock Advisory Centers (LAC) Member’s question; I indicated that BAMB has 22 were handed over to BAMB, which are vaccines and depots and at the time 11 were not operating, so it livestock feed. The reason for this was to make it easier helped Batswana and everyone else to access services and quicker for Batswana to access such services since nearby. For example, if we had not given BAMB the BAMB has about 22 branches countrywide. At the time, opportunity to sell vaccines in Moshupa, maybe farmers in 2016 there were 11 warehouses which were not used. were going to be forced to come to Gaborone to buy. It was then decided that if it can be allowed to offer such Currently they get them nearby in Moshupa as BAMB services, Batswana can access them easily. is open. I think that is the case with other places where In short Mr Speaker, according to the BAMB Act, it there is BAMB. It did not mean that we close down has not deviated from its core mandate. I thank you Mr the existing