First Session - Thirty-Seventh Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. L No. 22- 1:30 p.m., Monday, May 8, 2000 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Seventh Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, lion. Thompson N.D.P. ASPER, Linda Riel N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky, Hon. Inkster N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew, Hon. Brandon East N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUA Y, Louise Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FILMON, Gary Tuxedo P.C. FRIESEN,Jean, Hon. Wolseley N.D.P. GERRARD,Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold Minnedosa P.C. HELWER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LA THLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John FortWhyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. N.D.P. MALOWAY,Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn, Hon. Minto P.C. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East N.D.P. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake P.C. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PENNER, Jim Steinbach P.C. PITURA, Frank Morris P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren Lac du Bonnet N.D.P. REID, Daryl Transcona P.C. REIMER, Jack Southdale N.D.P. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland P.C. ROCAN, Denis Carman N.D.P. RONDEAU,Jim Assiniboia N.D.P. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Rossmere P.C. SCHULER, Ron Springfield N.D.P. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface P.C. SMITH, Joy Fort Garry N.D.P. SMITH, Scott Brandon West P.C. STEFANSON, Eric Kirkfield Park N.D.P. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain N.D.P. WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River 901 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Monday, May 8, 2000 The House met at 1:30 p.m. In closing, I would like to commend the work of the Inner City Housing Coalition which PRAYERS has worked very diligently over the past couple of years to bring together over 20 community ROUTINEPROCEEDINGS organizations from many sectors of our city, including the financial sector, the voluntary MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS sector, the University of Manitoba and the many non-profit groups that are active in the housing Joint Housing Initiative world in our inner city. The Coalition will be a continuing vital resource for both community Hon. Tim Sale (Minister of Family Services groups and government in developing this new and Housing): I have a statement for the House. initiative. Thank you. As Minister of Family Services and * (13:35) Housing, I am extremely pleased to advise the House that the Government of Canada, the Mr. Jack Reimer (Southdale): I would like to Province of Manitoba and the City of Winnipeg thank the Minister for bringing forth this state­ have announced their commitment to jointly co­ ment in regard to a new direction or supposed ordinate our housing initiatives. This agreement new direction that the Government has taken in signals a new approach to housing development, regard to inner city housing. a community-driven model which recognizes that the best ideas for community revitalization I do take a bit of exception to the reference come directly from the community itself. The to the program called Neighbourhoods Alive! If community development approach in our they recall, this government here brought forth a housing initiative is consistent with, and is in program which we called Take Back the Streets. addition to, our Neighbourhoods Alive! I believe this is just another recycle of one of the Commitment, which will be revealed shortly. ideas and some of the proposals that we were going to take forth in our election campaign and The Province of Manitoba has dedicated some of the directions we were taking, not only new funding of $8 million over four years to this with housing, but with the inner city revitaliza­ tri-level partnership aimed at providing tion of Winnipeg. community groups with the support they need for housing and physical improvements in our inner cities. The goal of the initiative is to inject The Member mentioned there that this is a large volume of housing renovation and new funding of $8 million. I would hope that the rehabilitation, 200 to 300 units per year at Minister is looking at this with a bit of a grain of minimum, into targeted neighbourhoods. The salt because I believe, with devolution, when the Winnipeg Housing Initiative office, which will provincial government took back the housing open May 15, will be located at 233 Portage units here in Manitoba, the negotiations that this A venue. The office will be staffed by senior government initiated, and the total evolution of employees seconded from the three levels of funding that came back to this province, after government, and telephone inquiries regarding everything was finished, I believe it was close to the initiative can be addressed to the already $40 million. So there is money in the Housing operational line, 940-3070. The office has been budget, not only for new initiatives, but receiving inquiries from community groups and, innovative new initiatives on their part, instead with the start of the construction season, is of recycling some of the initiatives that we committed to ensuring a timely response to those brought forth and the initiatives that we believe making submissions. are very, very necessary for the inner city. 902 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 8, 2000 Any type of inner city renovations or constituency of the Honourable Member for Ste. revamp in this city is very, very important, Mr. Rose (Mr. Cummings). Speaker. I believe that housing, the establish­ ment of community groups, the involvement of Also, I would like to draw the attention of community groups is the only way that this thing all honourable members to the Speaker's Gallery can grow in Winnipeg. Supporting grass roots where we have with us today His Excellency and bottom feeding, if you want to call it, with Sunder Pap, Ambassador to the Republic of people at the bottom being involved, community Hungary to Canada. groups, not top-down government interference that this government fe els they have to be On behalf of all members, I welcome you involved with, is the best way to have this going. here today. So, Mr. Speaker, I applaud the Government ORAL QUESTION PERIOD for taking this initiative in regard to getting involved with the neighbourhood groups and the Income Tax people in the inner city, and I applaud them fo r Reductions getting this new funding of $8 million, but I am suspect of that amount. Mr. Gary Filmon (Leader of the Official Opposition): Mr. Speaker, my question is fo r INTRODUCTION OF BILLS the First Minister. Bill 27-The Correctional Services Over the past fe w months, all other Amendment Act provinces in Canada have recognized the necessity to cut taxes to remain competitive. Hon. Gord Mackintosh (Minister of Justice Alberta, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Attorney General): Mr. Speaker, I move, Newfoundland, P.E.I., B.C., Saskatchewan and seconded by the Minister of Labour (Ms. most recently Ontario have reduced the personal Barrett), that leave be given to introduce Bill 27, income tax burden on their citizens. Only The Correctional Services Amendment Act; Loi Manitoba appears to be left now on a lonely tax­ modifiant Ia Loi sur les services correctionnels, and-spend island. Even an analysis in the most and that the same be now received and read a recent budget brought down in British Columbia first time. by the NDP shows that Manitoba is the second­ highest taxed province and not keeping up with Motion presented. everyone else. My question to the First Minister is: Can he Mr. Mackintosh: This bill corrects two indicate what he will do to keep Manitoba deficiencies in the Act. It ensures that The economically competitive with other provinces, Workers Compensation Act can apply to particularly our two neighbours, Saskatchewan offenders engaged in work programs, and it and Ontario, who have slashed taxes in this specifically authorizes regulations respecting the year's budgets? earning of remission. * (13:40) Motion agreed to. Hon. Gary Doer (Premier): Mr. Speaker, I believe that it is about 49 hours away fo r this Introduction of Guests government to present its budget to show that we will be demonstrating to the people of this Mr. Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, I would province our ability to deliver on our election like to draw the attention of all honourable promises to provide a balanced approach to the members to the galler; where we have, from the economy. Neepawa Area Collegiate, 15 Grade 11 students under the direction of Mr. Bob Ferguson and We know that in British Columbia there was Ms. Keri Doerksen. This school is located in the pressure on the issue of medicare premiums that May 8, 2000 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 903 is being maintained in B.C.