0001 01 BEFORE THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD 01 02 SCIENTIFIC REVIEW PANEL ON TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS 02 03 DR. JAMES PITTS, CHAIRPERSON 03 04 04 05 05 06 06 07 IN THE MATTER OF: ) 07 ) 08 THE SCIENTIFIC REVIEW PANEL ) 08 ON TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS ) 09 PUBLIC MEETING ) 09 ____________________________) 10 10 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 14 15 TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS 15 16 IRVINE, CALIFORNIA 16 17 MONDAY, DECEMBER 16, 1996 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 REPORTED BY: 22 23 MARCENA M. MUNGUIA, 23 CSR NO. 10420 24 24 JOB NO.: 25 ARB0783 25 0002 01 BEFORE THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD 01 02 SCIENTIFIC REVIEW PANEL ON TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS 02 03 DR. JAMES PITTS, CHAIRPERSON 03 04 04 05 05 06 06 07 IN THE MATTER OF: ) 07 ) 08 THE SCIENTIFIC REVIEW PANEL ) 08 ON TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS ) 09 PUBLIC MEETING ) 09 ____________________________) 10 10 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 14 15 15 TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS, TAKEN AT 16 16 THE ARNOLD AND MABEL BECKMAN CENTER OF THE 17 17 NATIONAL ACADEMIES OF SCIENCES AND ENGINEERING, 18 18 100 ACADEMY DRIVE, IRVINE, CALIFORNIA, COMMENCING 19 19 AT 9:45 A.M., ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 16, 1996, 20 20 HEARD BEFORE DR. JAMES PITTS, CHAIRPERSON, 21 21 REPORTED BY MARCENA M. MUNGUIA, A CERTIFIED 22 22 SHORTHAND REPORTER IN AND FOR THE STATE OF 23 23 CALIFORNIA. 24 24 25 25 0003 01 APPEARANCES: 01 02 CHAIRPERSON: DR. JAMES PITTS 02 03 PANEL MEMBERS: DR. GARY FRIEDMAN 03 DR. JOHN FROINES 04 DR. STANTON GLANTZ 04 DR. JAMES N. SEIBER 05 05 06 06 07 07 08 08 09 09 10 10 11 11 12 12 13 13 14 14 15 15 16 16 17 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 22 23 23 24 24 25 25 0004 01 I N D E X 01 02 AGENDA ITEM NUMBER: PAGE 02 03 1 - UPDATE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PESTICIDE 10 03 REGULATION'S ASSESSMENT PROGRAM: 04 TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANT DOCUMENTS 04 TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANT CANDIDATE DOCUMENT 05 05 2 - UPDATE FROM THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND 72 06 OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAZARD 06 ASSESSMENT STAFFS ON THE DRAFT DOCUMENT 07 ON DIESEL EXHAUST AS A TOXIC AIR 07 CONTAMINANT 08 08 3 - PROGRESS REPORT ON ENVIRONMENTAL TOBACCO 140 09 SMOKE DOCUMENT, INCLUDING EXPOSURE AND 09 HEALTH EFFECTS OF E.T.S. 10 10 4 - UPDATE FROM AIR RESOURCES BOARD STAFF ON 157 11 THE TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANT PROGRAM 11 12 5 - DISCUSSION OF FUTURE MEETING DATES AND 202 12 PROCEDURES 13 13 14 14 15 15 16 16 17 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 22 23 23 24 24 25 25 0005 01 IRVINE, CALIFORNIA, MONDAY, DECEMBER 16, 1996 02 9:45 A.M. 03 04 05 DR. PITTS: GOOD MORNING. I WANT TO WELCOME ALL 06 THE PANEL MEMBERS HERE AND MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE HERE 07 AND THE STAFFS OF THE O.E.H.H.A. AND THE A.R.B. AND THE 08 D.P.R. AND OTHER PUBLIC INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED IN OUR 09 SCHEDULE TODAY. IT'S AN INTERESTING ONE. IT WILL BE A 10 FULL AFFAIR AND OF SOME INTEREST. 11 BEFORE WE TAKE UP THE ITEMS AS CITED ON THE 12 OFFICIAL AGENDA, IT'S CUSTOMARY TO, I THINK, ASK THE 13 QUESTION, "ARE THERE ANY RELEVANT PREVIOUS BUSINESS ITEMS 14 FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS?" AND IT TURNS OUT THERE IS AN 15 ITEM THAT I THINK ALL OF YOU WILL FIND BOTH RELEVANT AND 16 INTERESTING AND CERTAINLY ONE THAT IS WORTH INTRODUCING 17 NOT ONLY AT THIS MEETING, BUT I'M SURE INTRODUCING AGAIN 18 THE WHOLE PEER REVIEW AND THE WHOLE SCIENTIFIC RISK 19 ASSESSMENT APPROACH OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. 20 MOVING AHEAD, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST 21 MEETING, DR. SEIBER AND HIS SPLENDID REPORT FROM THE 22 PANEL, THE COMMITTEE THAT CAME OUT; AND JIM HAS SOME NEWS 23 ON THAT. DR. SEIBER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US THE NEWS 24 ON YOUR INCREDIBLE RESULT? 25 A REPORT WAS LISTENED TO. A REPORT OF 0006 01 DISTINGUISHED SCIENTISTS WAS, IN FACT, LISTENED TO AT HIGH 02 LEVELS AND WE'RE THRILLED AT THIS, AND JIM HAS GIVEN ME 03 COPIES FOR THE PANEL OF THE NEWS RELEASE, AND I'LL JUST 04 READ THE FIRST PART AND THEN JIM WILL FOLLOW AND TELL US 05 ALL ABOUT IT. 06 "SACRAMENTO. CALIFORNIA SECRETARY 07 FOR ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION, JAMES M. 08 STROCK, TODAY ACCEPTED A REPORT ON THE 09 AGENCY'S RISK ASSESSMENT PRACTICES 10 FROM A PRESTIGIOUS GROUP OF SCIENTISTS 11 AND ANNOUNCED PLANS TO IMPLEMENT" -- 12 "PLANS TO IMPLANT ITS" -- "TO IMPLEMENT 13 ITS RECOMMENDATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH 14 AN EXECUTIVE ORDER ISSUED YESTERDAY BY 15 GOVERNOR WILSON." 16 AND ON THAT NOTE, THE CHAIR OF THAT PANEL, 17 DR. SEIBER. 18 DR. SEIBER: WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JIM. IT'S 19 JUST A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. IT'S A FOLLOW-UP ON THE RISK 20 ASSESSMENT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD PANEL REPORT AT THE LAST 21 S.R.P. MEETING. 22 AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE REPORT OF THE RISK 23 ASSESSMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S OUT AND I BELIEVE YOU ALL 24 HAVE COPIES, COURTESY OF O.E.H.H.A. SO IF YOU DON'T, DOUG 25 PASCERELLA IS HERE AND A FEW OTHER FOLKS WHO WILL MAKE 0007 01 SURE THAT HAPPENS. 02 AND SECONDLY, ON FRIDAY, GOVERNOR WILSON 03 SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, AS JIM MENTIONED, TO IMPLEMENT 04 THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE RISK ASSESSMENT ADVISORY PANEL, 05 AND I JUST WANTED TO QUOTE ALSO FROM A LETTER THAT I 06 RECEIVED FROM GOVERNOR WILSON -- I DON'T RECEIVE THESE 07 LETTERS VERY OFTEN, SO I FEEL PRETTY PROUD ABOUT THIS 08 ONE. AFTER A PARAGRAPH IN WHICH HE BASICALLY THANKS US 09 FOR OUR SERVICE, HE SAYS: 10 "TO ENSURE TIMELY IMPLEMENTATION 11 OF THE COMMITTEE'S WORK, I'VE SIGNED 12 EXECUTIVE ORDER W-137-96 INSTRUCTING 13 ALL CAL/E.P.A. BOARDS, OFFICES AND 14 DEPARTMENTS TO DEVELOP PLANS FOR 15 ADDRESSING THE COMMITTEE'S 16 RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF THEIR 17 STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE 18 NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 19 "I'VE ALSO CALLED ON SECRETARY 20 STROCK TO CONVENE A TASK FORCE OF 21 DEPARTMENT AND AGENCY HEADS WITHIN 22 CALIFORNIA STATE GOVERNMENT TO IDENTIFY 23 ADDITIONAL STATE AGENCIES THAT PERFORM 24 ACTIVITIES INVOLVING CHEMICAL RISK 25 ASSESSMENT IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEN 0008 01 THESE ADDITIONAL AGENCIES WILL DEVELOP 02 IMPLEMENTATION PLANS AND WILL BE ASKED 03 TO WORK WITH CAL/E.P.A. IN UNIFYING 04 AND IMPROVING THE RISK ASSESSMENT 05 PRACTICES." 06 AND HE SAYS: 07 "I'VE DESIGNATED CAL/E.P.A.'S 08 O.E.H.H.A. AS THE PRINCIPAL STATE 09 AGENCY FOR COORDINATION OF THIS 10 COORDINATED EFFORT." 11 AND THEN FINALLY -- I THINK THIS IS REALLY 12 IMPORTANT. IT'S A SIGNAL. 13 "IT HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING 14 GOAL OF MY ADMINISTRATION TO 15 MAINTAIN CALIFORNIA'S HIGH 16 ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS BY APPLYING 17 THE BEST AVAILABLE SCIENCE IN AN 18 OBJECTIVE AND CONSISTENT FASHION." 19 I THINK WE CAN ALL ACCEPT AND LISTEN TO THAT 20 SENTENCE FROM THE GOVERNOR. 21 "CAREFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 22 COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION WILL CLEARLY 23 MOVE US CLOSER TO THAT GOAL AND I WANT 24 TO THANK YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE 25 COMMITTEE THAT HELP KEEP CALIFORNIA ON 0009 01 THE CUTTING EDGE OF ENVIRONMENTAL 02 SCIENCE. SINCERELY, PETE WILSON." 03 SO WE'RE QUITE PLEASED THAT THE EXECUTIVE 04 ORDER WAS SIGNED, AND WHAT I THINK THIS MEANS IS THAT THE 05 ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO MOVE AGGRESSIVELY ON 06 IMPLEMENTATION -- THAT'S FAIRLY CLEAR-CUT -- AND ALSO THAT 07 THE ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT 08 WE ESPOUSE AS A SCIENTIFIC REVIEW PANEL IN TIMELY PEER 09 REVIEW OF SCIENTIFIC REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENTS, WHICH OF 10 COURSE IS WHAT THIS PANEL IS ALL ABOUT. 11 IT'S ACTUALLY PIONEERED AND SHOWN THE WAY IN 12 WHICH IT OUGHT TO BE DONE, AND SO I APPLAUD THE S.R.P. 13 MODEL AND WE CERTAINLY USED IT FREQUENTLY WHEN WE WERE 14 DELIBERATING IN CONNECTION WITH THE RISK ASSESSMENT 15 ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I THINK IT MEANS CONSISTENCY. 16 THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE TALK ABOUT 17 CONSISTENCY WITHIN THE BOARDS AND DEPARTMENTS OF STATE 18 GOVERNMENT. THERE WILL BE MORE TALK ABOUT HARMONIZATION, 19 FEDERAL AND STATE, AND FINALLY BETTER SCIENCE IS RAMPANT 20 IN THE DOCUMENT AND ONE OF THE MANY RECOMMENDATIONS, FOR 21 EXAMPLE, IS TO SUPPORT THE STAFF OF THE A.R.B. AND 22 O.E.H.H.A. AND OTHER GROUPS THAT DO ASSESSMENT TO KEEP UP 23 WITH THE SCIENCE, PARTICIPATE IN PROFESSIONAL MEETINGS, 24 AND GENERALLY STAY ON TOP OF WHAT OF COURSE IS AN 25 INCREASINGLY COMPLICATED WORLD. 0010 01 BUT ONE LAST COMMENT IS WE'RE BLESSED WITH A 02 TREMENDOUS STAFF IN STATE GOVERNMENT. NOT ONLY ARE THEY 03 VERY GOOD, BUT THEY HAVE CONTINUITY. MANY OF THESE FOLKS 04 HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR -- PEOPLE LIKE JAMES AND PEOPLE LIKE 05 GEORGE AND JOAN AND ALL THE OTHER FOLKS OUT HERE -- MANY 06 YEARS, SO WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS CONTINUITY THAT OUR FEDERAL 07 COUNTERPARTS DON'T OFTEN HAVE. SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE 08 VERY POSITIVE. 09 AND ANYWAY, THAT'S THE ANNOUNCEMENT, JIM. 10 DR.