Citizens Advisory Committee

Citizens Advisory Committee

<p> 1</p><p>CAPTIONING FEBRUARY 28, 2014 CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE</p><p>***This is not an official, verbatim transcript of the ***following meeting. It should be used for informational ***purposes only. This document has not been edited; ***therefore, there may be additions, deletions, or words ***that did not translate.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE FRIDAY, </p><p>FEBRUARY 28, MEETING OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.</p><p>WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE.</p><p>BARBARA, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE?</p><p>[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: NEXT UP IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CITIZENS </p><p>ADVISORY COMMITTEE.</p><p>LINDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THE PURPOSE?</p><p>>>LINDA PORTER: YES.</p><p>THE PURPOSE AND SCOPE OF THE ACTIVITIES OF THIS COMMITTEE </p><p>SHALL BE THE FOLLOWING: TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE COUNTY </p><p>ISSUES AS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR</p><p>BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR; TO INITIATE PROPOSALS AND </p><p>FORWARD THEM TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS </p><p>RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTION.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2</p><p>NEXT, IF WE COULD PLEASE GO AROUND THE ROOM AND EACH MEMBER</p><p>INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THE COMMISSIONER THAT APPOINTED </p><p>THEM.</p><p>START TO MY LEFT.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: GOOD MORNING.</p><p>SPENCER KASS, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER SANDY MURMAN.</p><p>>>CRISTAN FADAL: CRISTAN FADAL, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER </p><p>SANDY MURMAN.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: GAYE TOWNSEND, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER </p><p>MARK SHARPE.</p><p>GOOD MORNING.</p><p>>>DEBORAH COPE: GOOD MORNING.</p><p>DEBORAH COPE APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER KEVIN BECKNER.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: JAY VICKERS APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER KEN </p><p>HAGAN.</p><p>>>KIMBER WILLIAMS: KIMBER WILLIAMS APPOINTED BY </p><p>COMMISSIONER KEN HAGAN.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: BARBARA ADERHOLD, APPOINTED BY </p><p>COMMISSIONER KEVIN BECKNER.</p><p>>>LINDA PORTER: LINDA PORTER, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER LES</p><p>MILLER.</p><p>>>WENDELL DUGGINS: WENDELL DUGGINS, APPOINTED BY </p><p>COMMISSIONER LES MILLER.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THANK YOU. 3</p><p>NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT.</p><p>I DO NOT SEE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE WILL MOVE ON </p><p>TO THE REVIEW OF THE MEETING RECAP, AND THE RECAPS TAB IN </p><p>YOUR BINDER.</p><p>>> MOVE TO APPROVE.</p><p>>> SECOND.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: ALL RIGHT.</p><p>WE'LL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT FOR EVERYONE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT </p><p>IT.</p><p>ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.</p><p>[CHORUS OF AYES]</p><p>THANK YOU.</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>SO WE HAVE A BIT OF AN AUDIBLE CALL THIS MORNING.</p><p>THE SPEAKER FOR CUTR COULD NOT MAKE IT, CANCELED LATE </p><p>YESTERDAY, SO BETH TRIED TO FIND A REPLACEMENT AND WASN'T </p><p>SUCCESSFUL, SO SINCE WE'VE NEVER HAD A PRESENTATION ON </p><p>EXACTLY WHAT INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS IS HERE, BETH IS </p><p>GOING TO EXPLAIN TO US ABOUT INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS.</p><p>SHE IS FILLING IN.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: THANKS FOR LETTING ME FILL IN.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.</p><p>LET ME REPHRASE THAT.</p><p>WE CANNED THE GUY FROM CUTR IN FAVOR OF BETH IS WHAT WE DID. 4</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: THAT'S IT.</p><p>WELL, THANKS, EVERYONE, FOR LETTING ME TELL YOU A LITTLE </p><p>BIT ABOUT INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS.</p><p>BRANDON USED TO BE YOUR STAFF PERSON, AND HE WAS </p><p>INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS AT THAT POINT, BUT THE </p><p>DEPARTMENT HAS GROWN AND CHANGED OVER THE PAST YEAR, SO IF </p><p>HE DID TELL YOU THINGS BEFORE, IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT </p><p>DIFFERENT AT THIS POINT.</p><p>OUR DEPARTMENT, INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, IS NOW THREE </p><p>PEOPLE; BRANDON IS THE TOP DOG, AND THEN MYSELF AND ROBERT </p><p>SALMON ARE UNDER BRANDON AS SPECIAL PROJECT COORDINATORS.</p><p>THE WAY WE'VE KIND OF DIVIDED THINGS UP IS I FOCUS </p><p>PRIMARILY ON THE STATE LEGISLATION.</p><p>I SPEND ALL OF SESSION UP IN TALLAHASSEE, WORKING WITH THE </p><p>STATE, AND ROBERT DOES THE FEDERAL LEGISLATION.</p><p>WHAT I BROUGHT HERE IS BOTH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL PROGRAMS </p><p>AS WELL AS EXAMPLE OF A REPORT ON THE STATE LEGISLATION </p><p>THAT I'VE DONE RECENTLY.</p><p>OUR DEPARTMENT ALSO WORKS ON SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR THE BOARD</p><p>OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, SO IT</p><p>REALLY IS ALL OVER THE PLACE FROM DAY TO DAY FOR EXAMPLE, </p><p>ONE THING ROBERT'S WORKING ON IS THE VIOLENCE PREVENTION </p><p>COLLABORATIVE TASK FORCE.</p><p>HE IS WORKING ON THAT CLOSELY. 5</p><p>AS YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH YOU ALL.</p><p>I ALSO DO SOME OTHER FUNCTIONS, AUDITING, ET CETERA.</p><p>SO WE ARE KIND OF A BIT OF EVERYTHING IN OUR DEPARTMENT, </p><p>BUT PRIMARILY, AT LEAST THIS TIME OF YEAR, I KNOW I'M </p><p>FOCUSED ON STATE LEGISLATION.</p><p>SO IN THE PACKET HERE, THE FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM IS </p><p>HERE.</p><p>AS I SAID, ROBERT'S PRIMARILY WORKING ON IT, BUT A COUPLE </p><p>ISSUES THAT I KNOW HE HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON WE TALKED ABOUT </p><p>LATELY.</p><p>FLOOD INSURANCE IS A BIG ISSUE.</p><p>NATIONWIDE.</p><p>UNFORTUNATELY, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THINGS MOVE RATHER </p><p>SLOW, AND PINELLAS COUNTY SO FAR IS KIND OF GROUND ZERO.</p><p>THEY ARE ALREADY SEEING RATES BEING CHANGED.</p><p>THIS GOES BACK TO THE 2012 BIGGER WATERS ACT, WHERE THEY </p><p>ARE REDOING THE FLOOD MAPS AND REDOING RATES.</p><p>UNFORTUNATELY, AN ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS </p><p>SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WASN'T, AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE </p><p>MAPS BY SATELLITE TOPOGRAPHY, AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT </p><p>FLOOD HISTORY, ET CETERA.</p><p>SO A PLACE THAT MAY LOOK LIKE, OKAY, IT'S LOW GROUND AND IT</p><p>SHOULD FLOOD MAY HAVE HIGH RATES WHEN THEY MAY HAVE NEVER </p><p>HAD A FLOOD. 6</p><p>SO OUR LEGISLATIVE TEAM, ACTUALLY, BRANDON AND ROBERT ARE </p><p>ON PLANES TO DC TODAY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE UP THERE FOR</p><p>THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES CONFERENCE OVER THE </p><p>NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, AND THEY ARE ALSO PLANNING ON MAKING </p><p>VISITS TO OUR LOCAL MEMBERS UP THERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.</p><p>I KNOW THEY WERE UP THERE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO, </p><p>AND THE SENTIMENT IS, OKAY, WE KNOW SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE </p><p>DONE, BUT EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA OF HOW TO FIX THE </p><p>PROBLEM.</p><p>SO A COUPLE ITEMS HERE.</p><p>FLOOD INSURANCE, AS I JUST MENTIONED.</p><p>TRANSPORTATION.</p><p>THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK IN THE NEWS ABOUT A HIGH-SPEED FERRY.</p><p>I AM NOT SURE WHERE THAT PROJECT IS AT THIS POINT.</p><p>ALSO, BRIDGES.</p><p>WE HAVE SOME BRIDGES IN THE COUNTY, CHANNEL BEAM BRIDGES, </p><p>THAT ARE BEGINNING TO AGE, AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE </p><p>DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR REPAIR, </p><p>REPLACEMENT, WHATEVER IS NECESSARY FOR THOSE BRIDGES.</p><p>ON THE NEXT PAGE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.</p><p>YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO NOT SEE CUTS TO CDBGs AND HOME FUNDS.</p><p>A VARIETY OF STUFF OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF PAGES.</p><p>ON THE LAST PAGE, THE RESTORE ACT.</p><p>THAT GOES BACK TO THE BP OIL SPILL AND THE SETTLEMENT. 7</p><p>THERE'S GOING TO BE MONEY AT SOME POINT, AND ALL OF THE -- </p><p>WELL, ALL OF THE GULF COUNTIES HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER TO LOOK</p><p>AT HOW TO COLLECTIVELY DISTRIBUTE THAT MONEY, WHAT TO DO </p><p>WITH IT.</p><p>BUT I KNOW HERE IN FLORIDA, ALL OF THE GULF COUNTIES </p><p>STARTING UP PENSACOLA AREA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE KEYS ARE</p><p>GETTING TOGETHER.</p><p>THEY TALK I WANT TO SAY ONCE A MONTH ON WHAT TO POTENTIALLY</p><p>DO, PROJECTS, ET CETERA, HOW TO DISBURSE THE MONEY WITHIN </p><p>THE STATE, AND YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO DO REGIONAL PROJECTS?</p><p>DO WE JUST WANT TO DIVIDE IT UP COUNTY BY COUNTY?</p><p>SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT GROUP HAS NOT MADE ANY DECISIONS </p><p>YET.</p><p>IT'S STILL VERY MUCH IN A TALKING STATE.</p><p>AND OUR COUNTY PARTICIPATES IN THAT.</p><p>COMMISSIONER MILLER, I BELIEVE, IS INVOLVED, AND BRANDON </p><p>AND ROBERT ARE ALWAYS ON THOSE CALLS OR IN THE MEETINGS IF </p><p>THEY ARE LOCAL.</p><p>SO MOVING TO THE STATE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, WHICH I CAN </p><p>TELL YOU A LOT MORE ABOUT.</p><p>STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IT BEGINS ON TUESDAY.</p><p>IT RUNS 60 DAYS BY STATE CONSTITUTION.</p><p>AND THE ONLY CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT THEY HAVE TO DO IN </p><p>THOSE 60 DAYS IS BALANCE A BUDGET. 8</p><p>OTHER THAN THAT, THEY CAN PASS NO BILLS, THEY CAN PASS 500 </p><p>BILLS.</p><p>IT'S REALLY ALL OVER.</p><p>ON AVERAGE, APPROXIMATELY 2,000 TO 2400 BILLS ARE FILED </p><p>EACH YEAR, AND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 200 AND 300 ARE ACTUALLY </p><p>PASSED.</p><p>I'VE BEEN UP THERE.</p><p>THEY HAVE -- STARTING IN, I THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER THEY </p><p>STARTED, THEY'VE BEEN DOING WHAT THEY CALL INTERIM </p><p>COMMITTEE WEEKS, WHERE SOME OF THE COMMITTEES GET TOGETHER,</p><p>TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT THEY WANT TO TACKLE DURING SESSION, </p><p>HEAR PRESENTATIONS FROM DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, THE </p><p>AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE MAY HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF </p><p>AGRICULTURE ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THIS YEAR, ET CETERA.</p><p>THEY HAVE MET ONCE A MONTH FOR A WEEK, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, </p><p>NOVEMBER.</p><p>DECEMBER ONE OF THEM WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS </p><p>THIS THEN JANUARY THEY MET FOR TWO WEEKS, AND IN FEBRUARY </p><p>THEY MET FOR THREE.</p><p>SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY UP THERE THE FIRST THREE WEEKS OF </p><p>FEBRUARY, THEN THIS WEEK EVERYONE IS HOME, PROBABLY RESTING</p><p>UP TO GO INTO SESSION NEXT WEEK.</p><p>WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING OUT OF THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, </p><p>SOME OF THEIR PRIORITIES THIS YEAR, TAX CUTS, THAT'S COMING 9</p><p>FROM BOTH THE GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE.</p><p>THEY WANT TO SEE TAX CUTS.</p><p>THERE'S PLENTY OF BILLS ON ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS.</p><p>THEY ARE LOOKING AT -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE BILL ON A </p><p>SALES HOLIDAY ON THIS DAY FOR, SAY, ELECTRONICS, THIS DAY </p><p>FOR SOMETHING ELSE.</p><p>THEY ARE LOOKING AT REDUCING RATES HERE OR CHANGING, YOU </p><p>KNOW, THE WAY THEY DO RATES HERE.</p><p>A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS FLYING AROUND.</p><p>ANOTHER BIG THING I'VE BEEN TRACKING -- BECAUSE ONE OF OUR </p><p>COMMISSIONERS IS INTERESTED IN IT IS JUSTICE AND SEXUALLY </p><p>VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATORS AND SEX </p><p>OFFENDERS -- BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE HAS PUT THROUGH </p><p>SEVERAL BILLS AS A PACKAGE, TIGHTENING UP THE LAWS ON, YOU </p><p>KNOW, THOSE CRIMES, BOTH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR IT BEING A </p><p>CRIME, THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, IMPRISONMENT OR WHATEVER, </p><p>AND THEN AFTERWARDS, TRACKING, THEIR REGISTRATION </p><p>REQUIREMENTS, WHEN THEY MOVE FROM COUNTY TO COUNTY, STUFF </p><p>LIKE THAT.</p><p>ONE BILL I EVEN SAW THAT IT WENT THROUGH ITS LAST COMMITTEE</p><p>OF REFERENCE, AND IT'S GOING -- IT'S A HOUSE BILL.</p><p>IT'S NOT CALENDARED FOR THE FLOOR YET, BUT IT'S CHANGING </p><p>THE MINIMUM SENTENCE FOR A SEXUALLY VIOLENT OFFENDER TO 50 </p><p>YEARS. 10</p><p>BACK ON THE SENATE SIDE, THE SENATE RULES CHAIR, HIS NAME </p><p>IS THRASHER, HE SAID HE WANTS TO BRING OUR STATE TO AS </p><p>CLOSE AS ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THESE TYPE OF CRIMES AS </p><p>POSSIBLE.</p><p>SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE ISSUES I KNOW THEY ARE FOCUSING ON.</p><p>TWO OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SWIRLING UP THERE AND THAT </p><p>WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING AND WORKING WITH, HOMELESSNESS.</p><p>THERE'S KIND OF A STATEWIDE INITIATIVE TO LOOK AT THE </p><p>HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX IT.</p><p>SENATOR LATVALA, WHO IS OUT OF PINELLAS COUNTY, HE PUT </p><p>FORTH A BILL MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO AT THIS POINT, A WEEK AND </p><p>A HALF AGO AT THIS POINT, THAT WOULD DEDICATE SOME FUNDING </p><p>TOWARDS HOMELESS INITIATIVES.</p><p>I WAS INVOLVED IN THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS FOR THAT.</p><p>WE'RE STILL KIND OF IRONING OUT THINGS LIKE FORMULA AND HOW</p><p>EXACTLY FUNDS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT</p><p>COUNTY PROJECTS, HOW THEY MAY BE PRIORITIZED OR HOW IT'S </p><p>GOING TO WORK OUT.</p><p>SO THOSE DETAILS AREN'T FINALIZED YET, BUT THAT BILL WAS </p><p>FILED.</p><p>ONE OTHER THAT'S BEEN REALLY TALKED ABOUT A LOT UP THERE </p><p>AND BILLS HAVE JUST BEEN FILED FOR IS THE FILM INDUSTRY, </p><p>FOR INCENTIVES FOR THE FILM INDUSTRY.</p><p>THERE IS A PROGRAM OF INCENTIVES THAT IS AUTHORIZED THROUGH 11</p><p>2016, BUT CURRENTLY ALL THE DOLLARS THAT WERE PUT IN THIS </p><p>PART ARE CERTIFIED, THEY ARE CALLED FOR UNDER CERTAIN </p><p>PROJECTS.</p><p>SO THERE'S BEEN A BIG ASK BY FILM FLORIDA, WHO IS A </p><p>LOBBYING GROUP, YOU KNOW, THEY REPRESENT THE INTEREST TO </p><p>HAVE MORE DOLLARS DEDICATED TO BRING MORE FILM PROJECTS.</p><p>AND THAT WOULD BE FILM, TV, AND DIGITAL MEDIA AND NEW AND </p><p>EMERGING MEDIAS.</p><p>SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING I'VE BEEN KIND OF KEEPING AN EYE ON.</p><p>I THINK OUR AREA IS A GREAT PLACE TO FILM, SO I'D LOVE TO </p><p>SEE THAT HAPPEN.</p><p>SO AGAIN, OVER TO THE STATE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM.</p><p>THIS ONE I HAVE DIVIDED UP INTO PRIORITIES IN GENERAL.</p><p>PRIORITIES ARE MORE THE THINGS WE KIND OF GO FOR AND WE'RE </p><p>PROACTIVE ABOUT.</p><p>SOME OF THEM WE ARE ASKING, SOME WE ARE OPPOSING.</p><p>A LOT OF IT IS JUST KIND OF MONITOR STATEMENTS.</p><p>KEEP AN EYE ON THIS, AND IF IT OCCURS, WE'LL GO FROM THERE,</p><p>DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS.</p><p>SO CIVIL SERVICE ACT REFORM.</p><p>I AM SURE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ABOUT THAT IN THE NEWS.</p><p>ALL OF THE COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL -- I BELIEVE ALL OF THE </p><p>COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS HAVE KIND OF GOTTEN TOGETHER</p><p>AND SAY, YOU KNOW, CIVIL SERVICE, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT GO 12</p><p>FROM A MANDATORY GROUP WE HAVE TO WORK WITH TO MORE </p><p>PERMISSIVE, MORE A LA CART AND MAYBE EVEN EXPAND WHAT WE DO</p><p>WITH THEM.</p><p>LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY ORDINANCE.</p><p>WE HAVE MANY ORDINANCES, BUT TWO MENTIONED HERE ARE PAIN </p><p>MANAGEMENT CLINICS AND PIP FRAUD.</p><p>I HAVE BEEN WORKING A LOT SO FAR ON THESE COMMITTEE WEEKS </p><p>ON PIP FRAUD.</p><p>KIND OF THE BACK HISTORY ON THAT, TAMPA BAY AREA WAS GROUND</p><p>ZERO FOR STAGED ACCIDENTS WITH PIP, WHERE YOU HAVE THE </p><p>STAGED ACCIDENT AND YOU GET THE AUTOMATIC PAYOUT.</p><p>UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE SOME BAD ACTORS THAT WERE SETTING</p><p>UP CLINICS TO PERPETUATE THIS FRAUD.</p><p>AT ONE POINT THERE WERE ABOUT 300 OF THESE CLINICS, AND WE </p><p>ENACTED OUR ORDINANCE AND GOT IT DOWN TO ABOUT 80.</p><p>IT WAS BROUGHT TO COURT, AND A JUDGE PUT AN INJUNCTION ON </p><p>OUR ORDINANCE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN OCTOBER OF 2012, AND</p><p>AT THIS POINT, WE'RE BACK UP TO ABOUT 300 OF THESE CLINICS.</p><p>THE JUDGE AND THE INJUNCTION STATE THAT HAD THERE WAS A </p><p>PREEMPTION, THAT THE STATE PREEMPTED THIS AREA OF LAW, AND </p><p>THAT'S WHY THE ORDINANCE COULD NOT BE IN EFFECT.</p><p>WE WENT BACK, ACTUALLY STARTED THIS VENTURE LAST YEAR TO </p><p>THE SPONSOR OF THE PIP LEGISLATION FROM I BELIEVE IT WAS </p><p>2011. 13</p><p>HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO -- YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T </p><p>INTEND TO PREEMPT YOU GUYS.</p><p>SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO BOTH SENATE AND HOUSE SIDE ABOUT, </p><p>YOU KNOW, LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY STATING THE ORDINANCE IS </p><p>NOT PREEMPTED.</p><p>YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ORDINANCE.</p><p>DOES GOOD THINGS.</p><p>TRANSPORTATION AND ECONOMIC INVESTMENT, YOU MAY HAVE ALL </p><p>HEARD ABOUT A GROUP THAT'S GETTING TOGETHER.</p><p>IT'S GOING TO BE THE COUNTY, THE CITIES, AND THERE MAY BE </p><p>ONE OR TWO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, A TRANSPORTATION LEADERSHIP</p><p>GROUP.</p><p>AND THE THOUGHT HERE IS I BELIEVE THEY'VE MET A COUPLE </p><p>TIMES.</p><p>WE'RE TRYING TO GET A LIST OF PROJECTS OUT OF THEM.</p><p>HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING, OF OKAY, HERE'S </p><p>TWO OR THREE PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IN THE </p><p>REGION, THE CITIES, THE COUNTY, ALL AGREED TO, YOU KNOW, </p><p>AND ASK FOR FUNDING ON THOSE PROJECTS.</p><p>>> MAY I?</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>THIS IS A TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT </p><p>NOW IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT JUST MET THIS PAST </p><p>WEDNESDAY. 14</p><p>IS IT THAT GROUP?</p><p>I JUST WANT TO BE SURE.</p><p>WE'VE HAD SO ENEMA OF THESE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED </p><p>ANYMORE.</p><p>BUT THAT'S THE ONE?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: I BELIEVE SO.</p><p>GOING ON TO OUR NEXT PAGE ARE GENERAL ISSUES, AFFORDABLE </p><p>HOUSING, THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE I DISCUSSED IS UNDER THERE.</p><p>CONSUMER SERVICES IS AN ISSUE I WAS UP THERE WORKING ON </p><p>JUST LAST WEEK.</p><p>WE, AGAIN, HAVE A COUNTY ORDINANCE RELATING TO DISABILITY </p><p>ASSISTANCE AT THE GAS PUMPS.</p><p>IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND SEVEN OR EIGHT OTHER COUNTIES </p><p>THROUGHOUT STATE, A DISABLED PERSON CAN GO TO A GAS PUMP, </p><p>AND THERE'S A STICKER ON THE GAS PUMP, IT'S BLUE, HAS THE </p><p>DISABILITY SYMBOL, SAYS FOR ASSISTANCE CALL, AND THE PHONE </p><p>NUMBER TO CALL INSIDE.</p><p>UNFORTUNATELY, ONLY ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE COUNTIES STATEWIDE </p><p>HAVE THIS ORDINANCE.</p><p>IF A DISABLED PERSON LIVES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, HAS THAT</p><p>BENEFIT, IT'S GREAT.</p><p>BUT IF THEY DRIVE TO ANOTHER COUNTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A </p><p>SIMILAR ORDINANCE, THE STORIES I HAVE HEARD, I HAVE TO </p><p>HONK, WAVE, GIVE MY CREDIT CARD TO STRANGERS. 15</p><p>IT'S JUST NOT REALLY SAFE.</p><p>SO WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS A STATEWIDE, YOU KNOW, </p><p>ISSUE, THAT THERE CAN BE THESE STICKERS STATEWIDE.</p><p>THERE'S A BILL BY ONE OF OUR LOCAL MEMBERS, REPRESENTATIVE </p><p>DANISH, THAT'S PASSED ITS FIRST COMMITTEE OF REFERENCE.</p><p>LOTS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL.</p><p>THE GAS PUMP -- THE FUEL MARKETERS ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OF </p><p>IT, SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT.</p><p>ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET, I MENTIONED FILM INCENTIVES.</p><p>ALSO ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S MOVING THIS YEAR, THE LAST POINT,</p><p>911 FEES ON PREPAID.</p><p>THERE'S, I BELIEVE IT'S 50 CENTS CURRENTLY ON CELL PHONE </p><p>PLANS THAT THAT 50 CENTS GOES TO 911.</p><p>THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND IT TO PREPAID AS WELL BECAUSE </p><p>PREPAID CURRENTLY AREN'T PAYING THAT 50 CENTS.</p><p>BUT OVERALL, THEY'RE GOING TO DROP THAT RATE.</p><p>THE LATEST NUMBER I'VE HEARD IS 46 CENTS.</p><p>BUT THERE WAS A REVENUE ESTIMATING CONFERENCE ON THIS JUST </p><p>LAST WEEK, SO THAT NUMBER MAY STILL FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT.</p><p>ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, FLOOD INSURANCE.</p><p>>> 46 CENTS FROM 50?</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: GOOD, WE ALL GET TO KEEP FOUR CENTS.</p><p>BACK TO FLOOD INSURANCE. 16</p><p>AS I MENTIONED, WE ALL KNOW THAT FLOOD INSURANCE IS AN </p><p>ISSUE.</p><p>THE STATE IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT HOW THEY CAN FIX THIS </p><p>FLOOD INSURANCE PROBLEM AND THESE HIGH RATES FOR FLORIDA </p><p>RESIDENTS.</p><p>SENATOR BRANDIS, WHO IS ONE OF OUR LOCALS, AND HE IS </p><p>PRIMARILY OUT OF ST. PETE, HE HAS A BILL THAT HAS GONE </p><p>THROUGH ITS COMMITTEES THAT WOULD BASICALLY OPEN UP THE </p><p>PRIVATE INSURANCE MARKET FOR FLOOD INSURANCE, HAVE MORE </p><p>PRIVATE INSURERS WRITING POLICIES.</p><p>THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN IT THAT LET'S SAY YOU DON'T HAVE --</p><p>OR YOU ONLY HAVE A PARTIAL -- YOUR VALUE IS $120,000 ON </p><p>YOUR HOUSE AND YOU ONLY HAVE $10,000 MORTGAGE, TO ALLOW YOU</p><p>TO, IF YOU CHOOSE, TO ONLY DO INSURANCE FOR THE PART THAT'S</p><p>MORTGAGED AND NOT THE REST, IF YOU CHOOSE.</p><p>THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER PROVISIONS IN IT.</p><p>A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT CONSUMER PROTECTION TYPE ISSUES.</p><p>AS I SAID, IT'S GONE THROUGH ITS COMMITTEES, BUT IT'S </p><p>ACTUALLY GOING TO BE RE-REFERRED BACK TO BANKING AND </p><p>INSURANCE FOR ONE MORE VETTING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.</p><p>HEALTHCARE/MEDICAID, WAS ACTUALLY ON A CONFERENCE CALL JUST</p><p>LAST WEEK ABOUT THIS.</p><p>INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFERS.</p><p>THE COUNTY HALF-CENT HEALTHCARE TAX, IT GETS SENT UP -- AND 17</p><p>I AM STILL NOT 100% UNDERSTANDING IT, TO BE HONEST.</p><p>IT GETS SENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE, AND TALLAHASSEE GETS A </p><p>MATCH FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.</p><p>THE MONEY COMES BACK DOWN, AND THAT GOES TOWARDS MORE </p><p>SAFETY NET TYPE HOSPITALS, AND FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH </p><p>HEALTHCARE PLAN, FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T FULLY AFFORD OR CAN'T </p><p>AFFORD HEALTHCARE AT THE SAFETY NET HOSPITALS.</p><p>IT WAS CHANGED IN 2011, BEFORE MY TIME, A TIERED APPROACH </p><p>WENT INTO EFFECT THIS PAST SUMMER.</p><p>SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO COME UP THIS YEAR, BUT WE</p><p>WERE CERTAINLY KEEPING AN EYE ON WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY </p><p>HAPPENING.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: RIGHT, RIGHT, RATHER THAN ALL THE MONEY </p><p>COMING BACK TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND </p><p>IT, THE MONEY IS BEING MORE SPREAD STATEWIDE.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YEAH, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT.</p><p>GOING ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, JUSTICE, I MENTIONED THE SEX </p><p>OFFENDERS AND SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATORS LEGISLATION.</p><p>ROAD DESIGNATION.</p><p>THIS IS AN ASK OF OUR BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.</p><p>SERGEANT PAUL SMITH IS A MEDAL OF HONOR WINNER, ACTUALLY, </p><p>THE ONLY MEDAL OF HONOR WINNER FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. 18</p><p>WE ASKED -- WE HAVE A HOUSE AND A SENATE SPONSOR THAT ARE </p><p>GOING TO RUN LANGUAGE TO HAVE A PORTION OF ROAD DEDICATED </p><p>TO HIM.</p><p>IT'S ACTUALLY 301 IN FRONT OF VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.</p><p>SO HOPEFULLY THAT ONE WILL HAVE NO ISSUES AND WILL BE </p><p>PASSED AROUND YOU'LL SEE A SIGN OF DESIGNATION.</p><p>FINALLY, ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, TRANSPORTATION, RED LIGHT </p><p>CAMERAS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON.</p><p>I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IN THE NEWS, SENATOR BRANDIS IS</p><p>TALKING ABOUT RED LIGHT CAMERAS, MAY BE AN ISSUE SWIRLING.</p><p>AGAIN, NOTHING QUITE YET, BUT WE ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON IT.</p><p>AND A BUNCH OF OTHER ISSUES HERE.</p><p>IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME, AND I CAN</p><p>GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION.</p><p>THE ONE OTHER THING I HAVE HERE IS AN UPDATE THAT I DID </p><p>FROM, ACTUALLY, LAST MONTH.</p><p>WHAT I DO IS EVERY WEEK THAT I'M UP THERE, DURING THE </p><p>COMMITTEE WEEKS, IT WAS MORE LIKE EVERY OTHER WEEK </p><p>DEPENDING ON HOW BUSY THINGS WERE AND WHAT WAS GOING ON, </p><p>BUT DURING SESSION, IT'S GOING TO BE EVERY WEEK.</p><p>I SEND BACK A REPORT.</p><p>IT GOES TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, THE </p><p>DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR SHOULD KIND OF A QUICK RUN-DOWN.</p><p>HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK, HERE'S WHERE EVERYTHING IS. 19</p><p>THESE REPORTS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, IF YOU GO TO </p><p>HILLSBOROUGHCOUNTY.ORG, GO TO THE DEPARTMENTS, </p><p>INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, ALL OF OUR REPORTS ARE ONLINE,</p><p>AS WELL AS LINKS TO FLORIDA SENATE SITE, FLORIDA HOUSE </p><p>SITE, AND ANYTHING YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW, AS WELL AS OUR </p><p>CONTACT INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR </p><p>US.</p><p>AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME NOW?</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.</p><p>LAST YEAR, AT THE LAST MINUTE, THERE WERE A COUPLE BILLS </p><p>FILED ON EITHER SIDE, SOME ALL FOR IT, SOME AGAINST IT, </p><p>SOME WANTING, OKAY, WE'LL TAKE THE DOLLARS BUT DO SOMETHING</p><p>DIFFERENT APPROACH.</p><p>THIS YEAR IT'S BEEN MUM SO FAR.</p><p>I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO.</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: AND YOU MENTIONED THE PILL MILLS IN </p><p>HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.</p><p>CLEARLY IT'S A STATE ISSUE.</p><p>IS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT IDENTIFYING FUNDING FOR THE </p><p>PRESCRIPTION DRUG MONITORING PROGRAM?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: THERE IS A BILL.</p><p>IT DID RECEIVE A ONE-TIME FUNDING LAST YEAR.</p><p>I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS, BUT IT WAS 20</p><p>NONRECURRING.</p><p>THERE IS A BILL THIS YEAR FOR ADDITIONAL MONIES.</p><p>SO I CAN KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT BILL IF YOU WANT ME TO.</p><p>>> I'D LIKE IT.</p><p>IT'S WHAT I DO.</p><p>BUT SPEAKING OF THE DRUG ISSUE, IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY </p><p>PLANNING TO TAKE A POSITION ON THE BALLOT INITIATIVE ABOUT </p><p>MARIJUANA?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE AT THIS POINT.</p><p>I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: I'D LIKE THEM TO.</p><p>>> DIFFERENT TYPE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.</p><p>>> THAT IS, THAT IS.</p><p>>> I AM SORRY.</p><p>GO AHEAD, GAYE.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: YOU KNOW, YOU READ MY MIND.</p><p>[SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YOU'RE WELCOME.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: WITH THE FERTILIZER REGULATION, I DON'T KNOW</p><p>HOW MUCH OF AN ISSUE IT'S GOING TO BE THIS YEAR, BUT WHAT </p><p>WE GENERALLY DO -- WHAT I ALWAYS DO IS WHEN I SEE A BILL OF</p><p>ANY ISSUE -- BUT FOR EXAMPLE, FERTILIZER -- I'LL SEND IT </p><p>BACK TO OUR FERTILIZER FOLKS, OUR WATER FOLKS, OUR EPC 21</p><p>FOLKS, AND GET THEIR OPINION ON IT.</p><p>IS IT GOOD?</p><p>IS IT BAD?</p><p>HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE COUNTY?</p><p>DO WE HAVE LOCAL REGULATION THAT THIS IS GOING TO STEAMROLL</p><p>AND THIS IS BAD AND OURS IS GOOD?</p><p>I GET, YOU KNOW, A FULL ANALYSIS FROM OUR FOLKS AND THEN GO</p><p>ACCORDINGLY.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YEAH, WE ARE CERTAINLY KEEPING AN EYE ON IT,</p><p>AND AS I SAID, COMING BACK HERE TO THE EXPERTS BECAUSE I AM</p><p>NOT A FERTILIZER EXPERT, THEN GETTING THE ANALYSIS AND </p><p>GOING FORTH BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY THINK OF IT.</p><p>>> THERE IS A FOLLOW-UP STATEMENT TO THAT.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>UNLESS YOU ALL WANT TO DRINK FERTILIZER.</p><p>BUT MONITOR ANY WATER LEGISLATION -- [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YEAH.</p><p>I'M NOT SURE ABOUT TAMPA BAY WATER SPECIFICALLY, BUT IN </p><p>GENERAL, WE HAVE OUR ORDINANCE, WE HAVE OUR REGULATIONS, WE</p><p>THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF MANAGING OUR AREA.</p><p>SO WHENEVER THE STATE WANTS TO DO A STATEWIDE REGULATION, </p><p>WE SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE DO A GOOD JOB. 22</p><p>IS THIS REALLY A GOOD IDEA OR NOT?</p><p>AND YOU KNOW, ONE IDEA ON THAT IS HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, </p><p>WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED.</p><p>WE KNOW WHAT OUR ISSUES ARE.</p><p>AND THAT'S WHY WE FEEL WE CAN BEST REGULATE THEM.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT </p><p>HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: THAT'S WHY I SAY NOT TAMPA BAY WATER </p><p>SPECIFICALLY, BUT --</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: SPENCER, THEN LINDA, THEN CRISTAN.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: I JUST WANT TO SUGGEST PERHAPS WE WANT TO </p><p>THINK ABOUT THE DELEGATION COMING DOWN HERE AT SOME POINT </p><p>DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR AND MAYBE MEETING WITH US AND</p><p>COMING HERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN, A, KNOW WHO THE DELEGATES </p><p>ARE, AND B, BE HERE FOR THINGS THE CITIZENS MIGHT WANT TO </p><p>WORK ON.</p><p>BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: OF COURSE.</p><p>FIELD TRIP?</p><p>YOU ALL CAN COME TO TALLAHASSEE FOR A FIELD TRIP.</p><p>>> I WOULD LOVE IT. 23</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: IF YOU'VE NEVER DONE IT, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE </p><p>YOU TO WALK THE HAULS.</p><p>>> YES, QUITE AN EXPERIENCE.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: CRISTAN.</p><p>>>CRISTAN FADAL: TWO QUESTIONS.</p><p>AS FAR AS THE GOVERNOR GOES WITH DISCUSSIONS REGARDING </p><p>SELF-FUNDING FOR STATE OF FLORIDA, HAS THERE BEEN ANY </p><p>DISCUSSION OF THAT, OR IS EVERYONE SOLELY FOCUSED ON </p><p>[INAUDIBLE]</p><p>BILL.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: I HAVE NOT HEARD -- THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT </p><p>HASN'T HAPPENED -- BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD THE GOVERNOR TALK </p><p>ABOUT THIS FLOOD INSURANCE ISSUE.</p><p>MOST OF THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN AROUND SENATOR BRANDIS'S </p><p>BILL.</p><p>>>CRISTAN FADAL: I GUESS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WHAT TYPE OF</p><p>PRESSURE IS BEING PUT ON HOUSE AND SENATE MEMBERS FOR THE </p><p>RESOLUTION OF THAT, THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: AS I SAID, I KNOW ROBERT AND BRANDON WERE UP</p><p>THERE A FEW MONTHS AGO TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.</p><p>WE ARE PUTTING PRESSURE ON.</p><p>WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRACT LOBBYIST TEAM UP THERE WHO I AM </p><p>SURE IS PUTTING PRESSURE ON.</p><p>BUT AS FAR AS WHAT OUR MEMBERS ARE PUTTING ON THE OTHERS, 24</p><p>I'M NOT 100% SURE.</p><p>>>CRISTAN FADAL: THANKS.</p><p>I APPRECIATE IT.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: KIMBER?</p><p>>>KIMBER WILLIAMS: YOU HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB.</p><p>SO GOOD, I WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME AND KEEP US UPDATED MORE </p><p>OFTEN, MAYBE ONCE A MONTH OR EVERY OTHER MONTH.</p><p>A LOT OF STUFF YOU DO, YOU HEAR ON THE NEWS AND AS WE TALK </p><p>AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE YOUR </p><p>PERSPECTIVE AND YOUR WRITE-UPS ON IT BECAUSE ALL OF A </p><p>SUDDEN I'M LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.</p><p>THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.</p><p>WE COULD MAYBE SQUEEZE YOU IN SOMEWHERE ON THE CALENDAR.</p><p>MY LAST MOVE AS BEING THE VICE CHAIR HERE.</p><p>LIKE WAIT!</p><p>ONE MORE THING!</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: IF ANYONE WANTS, I CAN CERTAINLY -- AS I </p><p>SAID, THESE REPORTS I SEND OUT ONCE A WEEK.</p><p>IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE IN MY EMAIL LIST --</p><p>>> I WOULD LOVE IT.</p><p>I THINK PROBABLY THE WHOLE GROUP WOULD.</p><p>>> WOULD YOU PLEASE?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YES, ABSOLUTELY.</p><p>I WILL SEND IT TO YOU ALL. 25</p><p>IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR SEE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE LIKE </p><p>WAIT, WHAT?</p><p>GIVE ME A CALL.</p><p>>>KIMBER WILLIAMS: THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.</p><p>THANK YOU SO MUCH.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: BARBARA.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: IS THERE A HILLSBOROUGH DAY IN </p><p>HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THIS YEAR?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YES, APRIL 9.</p><p>BEING ORGANIZED.</p><p>HOPING TO GET AS MANY FOLKS UP THERE AS POSSIBLE.</p><p>THAT MAY BE A GOOD FIELD TRIP DAY.</p><p>IT'S A THURSDAY.</p><p>>> [INAUDIBLE]</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: SESSION IS MARCH 4 TO MAY 2, SO IT'S RIGHT </p><p>IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING.</p><p>IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO SEE THINGS REALLY STARTING TO </p><p>HEAT UP AND GET CRAZY.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: KAY?</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: SPEAKING OF THE FIELD TRIP, YOU KNOW, YOU </p><p>THINK THE COUNTY WOULD SPONSOR IT?</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>I ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER THING THAT I FORGOT. 26</p><p>I NOTICED -- YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS DURING THE TIME WHEN I </p><p>CAME IN, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE -- BUT I NOTICED </p><p>THE PRIORITY ISSUE OF FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE WATER TAXI.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YEAH, YOU ARE ON THE FEDERAL PROGRAM.</p><p>AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT GENTLEMAN THAT FOCUSES </p><p>ON FEDERAL, SO NOT 100%.</p><p>THE LATEST I'VE HEARD FROM HIM IS THAT THAT ISSUE IS KIND </p><p>OF COOLING, SO I AM NOT 100% SURE WHERE THAT IS, BUT I CAN </p><p>CERTAINLY FIND OUT AND LET YOU KNOW.</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: OKAY.</p><p>NO, IT JUST SEEMED APROPOS FOR CUTR TODAY ON WHAT WE'RE </p><p>DOING.</p><p>AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, JAY, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT</p><p>ABOUT THE FERRY ISSUE BECAUSE OF MY LONGEVITY ON THIS </p><p>COMMITTEE.</p><p>AND GAYE, YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS AS WELL, THAT BACK ABOUT </p><p>SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO, WHEN WE WERE STUDYING </p><p>TRANSPORTATION ON THIS COMMITTEE, IT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION</p><p>OF THIS COMMITTEE WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RING </p><p>ROAD AND WHATEVER THAT THERE BE A FERRY THAT GOES FROM </p><p>SOUTH COUNTY TO PINELLAS COUNTY.</p><p>BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A CAR FERRY, NOT JUST A PASSENGER </p><p>FERRY.</p><p>I ONLY SAY THAT TO ALL OF YOU BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE 27</p><p>THINGS THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS</p><p>HAVE HEARD ME SAY IN THE PAST IS THAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS </p><p>OFTEN TAKE MANY YEARS BEFORE PEOPLE START CONSIDERING THEM.</p><p>SO ANYWAY.</p><p>THANKS.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YES, GAYE.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: HI.</p><p>BETH, COULD YOU ALSO -- HOW YOU DOING?</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.</p><p>BUT WITH SIGNS TOO.</p><p>I WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU PLEASE COULD TELL US WHEN THE </p><p>LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION MEETS BECAUSE THAT'S AN INTERESTING </p><p>TO ATTEND.</p><p>I ATTENDED IT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, AND YOU CAN SPEAK TO AN</p><p>ISSUE THERE.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: THE DELEGATION, THEY HAD THEIR MEETING IN </p><p>DECEMBER.</p><p>IT'S USUALLY IN DECEMBER -- LATE NOVEMBER/DECEMBER, BEFORE </p><p>LEGISLATIVE SESSION.</p><p>AND THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO GET BEFORE THEM </p><p>TO SPEAK ON ISSUES OF INTEREST, ET CETERA.</p><p>BUT SINCE THERE ARE LOCAL FOLKS, YOU CAN CALL THEM ANYTIME.</p><p>YOU GUYS ARE HOME. 28</p><p>THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.</p><p>SO EMAIL THEM, CALL THEM, REACH OUT TO THEM.</p><p>THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM HOME.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: WOULD YOU EXPLAIN TO THEM WHO ATTENDS?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: SURE.</p><p>WELL, THE LOCAL DELEGATION, IT'S SENATORS AND </p><p>REPRESENTATIVES THAT REPRESENT, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF </p><p>HILLSBOROUGH.</p><p>SOME HAVE THEIR WHOLE DISTRICT IN HILLSBOROUGH, SOME JUST </p><p>HAVE KIND OF CORNERS HERE AND THERE, BUT THAT'S WHO IS </p><p>THERE.</p><p>AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S GROUPS THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO</p><p>A SPECIFIC ISSUE, I KNOW A LOT OF THE TIME THE </p><p>CONSTITUTIONALS, THEY ATTEND.</p><p>YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE CLERK WILL GO AND TALK ABOUT </p><p>FUNDING OR WHATEVER ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.</p><p>SO IT'S KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY </p><p>TO GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A WHOLE BUNCH OF </p><p>INFORMATION TO GO FORTH TO TALLAHASSEE WITH.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: AND IT'S NICE IF YOU ARE THERE ONE ON ONE </p><p>SPEAKING TO THEM BECAUSE ALTHOUGH EMAILS MIGHT BE </p><p>EFFECTIVE, THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM THAT COME IN AND </p><p>LETTERS -- I BELIEVE LETTERS ARE PROBABLY MORE EFFECTIVE </p><p>NOW BECAUSE THEY GET SO MANY EMAILS. 29</p><p>BUT THIS WAY YOU ARE ONE ON ONE ON THEM AND CAN EXPRESS </p><p>YOUR FEELINGS OR OPINION.</p><p>I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD VENUE TO DO IT IN.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: ABSOLUTELY, LETTERS, CALLS.</p><p>AGAIN, THEY ARE IN TALLAHASSEE THESE NEXT TWO MONTHS FOR </p><p>SESSION, BUT THE REST OF THE YEAR, THEY HAVE LOCAL OFFICES.</p><p>GO SEE THEM.</p><p>GO TALK TO THEM.</p><p>EVEN DURING THE COMMITTEE WEEKS, THEY MAY BE UP THERE ONE </p><p>WEEK OF THE MONTH, BUT THEY'RE HERE THE OTHER THREE, FOUR </p><p>WEEKS.</p><p>SO GO TALK TO THEM.</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: BECAUSE I DO THIS A LOT, GET TO KNOW THEIR </p><p>AIDES.</p><p>IF YOU DO HAVE AN ISSUE, IT'S NOT JUST THE REPRESENTATIVE </p><p>OR THE SENATOR.</p><p>I MEAN, CLEARLY, YOU SHOULD GET TO KNOW THEM, BUT YOU'LL </p><p>GET MORE TIME WITH THE AIDE.</p><p>AND IF YOU CAN CONVINCE THE AIDE THAT YOUR ISSUE IS </p><p>IMPORTANT, THEY'RE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL ALL THE TIME, AND </p><p>THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR INFORMATION GETS TO THEM.</p><p>AND OTHER THING THAT I HAVE FOUND TO BE REALLY EFFECTIVE IS</p><p>TO INDICATE -- WELL, NUMBER ONE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW AN </p><p>ANSWER, JUST SAY YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU'LL FIND OUT. 30</p><p>BUT JUST OFFER TO BE A RESOURCE IF THEY -- A QUESTION COMES</p><p>UP THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND YOU'LL </p><p>GET THEM BACK INFORMATION.</p><p>BECAUSE THEN THE ISSUE KEEPS COMING FORWARD.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: AND ON THAT NOTE, THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY MY </p><p>BIGGEST FUNCTION UP THERE IS REALLY JUST EDUCATING.</p><p>YOU KNOW, LETTING THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS BILL HAS POTENTIAL </p><p>IMPACT ON THE COUNTY, AND THIS IS IT.</p><p>IT'S DEFINITELY A VERY EDUCATIONAL POSITION I HAVE UP THERE.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YES, BARBARA.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: HOW DO YOU FOLLOW ALL THESE BILLS?</p><p>IF YOU ARE SAYING 2,000 GET FILED.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: DON'T REALLY SLEEP THAT MUCH.</p><p>NO, ACTUALLY, I HAVE A TRACKING SYSTEM THAT I USE.</p><p>I GET NIGHTLY EMAILS.</p><p>THIS IS FILED TODAY.</p><p>I AM THERE READING EVERYTHING, AS I SAID, SHOOTING IT OUT </p><p>TO LOCAL PEOPLE TO PRIORITIZE AND SEE IF IT EVEN HAS AN </p><p>IMPACT ON US.</p><p>IF YOU ALL EVER WANTED TO DO THIS, THE FLORIDA HOUSE AND </p><p>THE FLORIDA SENATE SITE BOTH HAVE FREE LOGINS, AND YOU CAN </p><p>TRACK BILLS YOURSELF.</p><p>THEY'RE BOTH REALLY GOOD.</p><p>SO I DON'T KNOW. 31</p><p>IT'S QUITE A TASK, THOUGH.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: I TRIED TRACKING ONE, AND THAT WAS HARD</p><p>ENOUGH.</p><p>I CANNOT IMAGINE DO 2,000.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YEAH, GOOD WALKING SHOES ARE ESSENTIAL.</p><p>ANYONE ELSE?</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS?</p><p>I HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.</p><p>THE FIRST ONE WAS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PIP FRAUD.</p><p>IS IT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT'S GROUND ZERO FOR THIS?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YES.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: BUT I AM ASSUMING THAT OTHER COUNTIES HAVE </p><p>THE SAME CONFLICTS WITH POTENTIAL STATE LEGISLATION ON THE </p><p>SAME ISSUE, SO IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNTY-LEVEL ORDINANCE WE</p><p>HAVE THAT PROMOTES THIS PRACTICE HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH THAT,</p><p>SAY, DOESN'T PROMOTE IT IN PINELLAS?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: WHAT DO YOU MEAN?</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: SO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS GROUND ZERO, AND </p><p>THE REASON WE CAN'T FIX IT IS BECAUSE OUR FIX CONTRADICTS A</p><p>STATE LAW.</p><p>>> SAYS THE JUDGE.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: SAYS THE JUDGE.</p><p>WHICH WOULD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT OTHER COUNTIES IN THE </p><p>STATE OF FLORIDA WOULD HAVE THE SAME CONFLICT. 32</p><p>>> MIAMI-DADE.</p><p>AND WITH THEIR ORDINANCE, THAT'S HOW WE BECAME GROUND ZERO.</p><p>AND WHEN WE PUT THE ORDINANCE IN, IT WENT TO ORLANDO.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T -- I ACTUALLY WORK </p><p>CLOSELY WITH THE MIAMI-DADE VERSION OF ME AND ORANGE </p><p>COUNTY, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD EITHER OF THEM TALK MUCH ABOUT</p><p>THIS ISSUE, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ASK THEM AND GET MORE </p><p>INFORMATION.</p><p>>> YEAH, BECAUSE THEY HAD IT FIRST.</p><p>WE DIDN'T NEED TO BE SECOND.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THAT'S INTERESTING BUT NOT SURPRISING.</p><p>THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD HAD TO DO WITH INTERGOVERNMENTAL </p><p>RELATIONS WITH OTHER COUNTIES.</p><p>DO YOU GUYS DO MUCH WORK WITH OTHER COUNTIES?</p><p>IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF YOUR FOCUS IS FEDERAL AND STATE </p><p>LEVEL.</p><p>IS THERE ANY PART OF THE YEAR THAT YOU SPEND TIME TRYING TO</p><p>REACH OUT OR WORK WITH OTHER COUNTIES?</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: OTHER COUNTIES AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITIES, I </p><p>THINK IT'S KIND OF AN ALWAYS ONGOING THING THAT WE WANT TO </p><p>HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS, JUST, YOU KNOW, WE MAY GO TO LUNCH</p><p>WITH THEM.</p><p>WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION. 33</p><p>IN MY TIME HERE, WHICH HAS ONLY BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF, WE </p><p>HAVEN'T DONE ANY, SAY, PROJECTS.</p><p>YOU KNOW, OUR DEPARTMENT HASN'T REACHED OUT TO PINELLAS AND</p><p>SPECIFICALLY DONE A PROJECT.</p><p>BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, PINELLAS COUNTY VERSION OF ME, THE </p><p>CITY OF TAMPA VERSION OF ME, AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE </p><p>OTHER ORANGE, BROWARD, EVERYBODY.</p><p>SO AN ORGANIZATION WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH IS THE FLORIDA</p><p>ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.</p><p>THERE'S ALSO A NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.</p><p>BUT THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, THEY REPRESENT ALL</p><p>OF THE COUNTIES, AND THEY HAVE A LEGISLATIVE TEAM THAT YOU </p><p>SAY HOW DO I KEEP UP WITH STUFF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES </p><p>WE'RE ALL KIND OF ALERTING EACH OTHER.</p><p>THEY REPRESENT ALL OF THE COUNTIES, AND THEY'RE A GREAT </p><p>RESOURCE, BUT IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY, EVERY MONDAY AT </p><p>4:00 P.M. DURING SESSION, WE HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE ALL </p><p>GET TOGETHER AND CHAT, SO THERE DEFINITELY IS A LOT OF, YOU</p><p>KNOW, GOODWILL, GOOD CONVERSATION, AND WORKING, YOU KNOW, </p><p>IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER COUNTIES.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE CAC </p><p>HAS LOOKED AT BEFORE, SOMETHING THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE </p><p>DIRECTLY ASKED US TO LOOK INTO, AND I DON'T -- I DON'T </p><p>UNDERSTAND WHY THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAPPEN, BUT IT SOUNDS 34</p><p>LIKE IT'S REALLY NOT A PRIORITY FOR ANY COUNTY TO WORK WITH</p><p>OTHER COUNTIES, OTHER THAN TO HAVE CORDIAL RELATIONS.</p><p>THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE, AND I GUESS THAT'S JUST KIND OF</p><p>THE WAY THE TURF WARS GO.</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>THAT WAS IT.</p><p>ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?</p><p>THANK YOU, BETH.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: AS I SAID, CALL, EMAIL, YOU ALL KNOW WHERE </p><p>TO FIND ME.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YOU DID A GREAT JOB COMING OFF THE BENCH, </p><p>AND YOU GET A STARTING POSITION NOW.</p><p>SO THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: AND I WILL BE HERE, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE </p><p>MEETINGS DURING SESSION, SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU READ SOMETHING</p><p>IN A REPORT, I'LL BE SITTING RIGHT THERE.</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE BRANDON WASN'T ALWAYS </p><p>ABLE TO DO THAT.</p><p>THAT'S REALLY GOOD.</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: IF I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER RIGHT AWAY, I </p><p>WILL CERTAINLY GET THE ANSWER.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: ALL RIGHT.</p><p>EXCELLENT.</p><p>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 35</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>SO NEXT WE HAVE OUR ELECTIONS.</p><p>YOU SHOULD HAVE A BALLOT IN YOUR PACKET OF INFORMATION.</p><p>IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS.</p><p>SO PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.</p><p>YOU SIMPLY NEED TO CHOOSE ONE OPTION FROM THE TOP.</p><p>>> IF WE COULD -- I AM GOING WITHDRAW MY NAME ON THE CHAIR,</p><p>FOR THE CHAIR.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: OKAY.</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>EVERYBODY VOTE FOR CRISTAN.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>DEBORAH?</p><p>>>DEBORAH COPE: I HAVE A QUESTION.</p><p>SINCE WE HAVE SAME NAMES ON THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, </p><p>SHOULD WE SPLIT THE BALLOT AND VOTE FIRST CHAIR -- ARE WE </p><p>GOING TO TABULATE THESE AND TURN THEM IN OR ARE WE GOING TO</p><p>DO ORAL?</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THANK YOU, GAYE.</p><p>THAT'S AN EXCELLENT CLARIFICATION.</p><p>SO YES, CRISTAN'S NAME REMAINS AT THE VICE CHAIR BALLOT AT </p><p>THE BOTTOM, BUT NOT ON THE CHAIR.</p><p>DEBORAH, YOUR POINT IS A GOOD ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE NAMES IN 36</p><p>TWO AREAS AND ONE ELECTION COULD AFFECT THE OTHER ONE --</p><p>>>BETH PYTLIK: IF YOU ALL WANT TO JUST DO ONE AND TURN IT </p><p>IN, I HAVE MORE.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: TEAR IT IN HALF.</p><p>OH, WE LIKE THAT.</p><p>SAVE A TREE.</p><p>WELL, THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD, AND BETH'S ALREADY KILLED THEM </p><p>ALL OVER THERE.</p><p>AND THEN DEBORAH'S QUESTION -- HOLD ON ONE SECOND, GAYE.</p><p>DEBORAH'S QUESTION WAS ARE WE GOING TO DO AN ORAL VOTE OR </p><p>TURN THEM IN?</p><p>I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TURN THEM IN.</p><p>>> WHICH ONE ARE WE DOING FIRST?</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: LET'S DO THE CHAIR FIRST.</p><p>>> BEFORE YOU VOTE, I'D, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW A </p><p>LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR NAME IN.</p><p>I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR CREDENTIALS ARE.</p><p>I DON'T KNOW ALL OF YOU THAT WELL, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE </p><p>TO KNOW WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE THAT WOULD BE </p><p>MEANINGFUL FOR US TO CHOOSE YOU AS THE LEADER.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.</p><p>I DON'T THINK TRADITIONALLY THAT'S BEEN DONE, BUT I THINK </p><p>AT GREAT IDEA.</p><p>I MEAN, JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES' WORTH. 37</p><p>I THINK IT'S AN OUTSTANDING IDEA, AND I HAD THE SAME </p><p>THOUGHT MYSELF LAST YEAR, AGAIN, TYPICALLY NOT SOMETHING </p><p>THAT'S DONE, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.</p><p>NO OBJECTION?</p><p>NO OBJECTION FROM PEOPLE RUNNING, THEN I THINK THAT'S GREAT.</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>SO --</p><p>>> GIVE THEM BACK.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: WE'LL GO IN -- -- WE'LL GO IN ALPHABETICAL </p><p>ORDER, WHICH IS ALSO THE ORDER THEY ARE ON THE BALLOT.</p><p>BARBARA?</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: YES.</p><p>WELL, LET'S SEE.</p><p>I HAVE LIVED IN THE COUNTY IT SEEMS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.</p><p>I GOT INVOLVED WITH LAND USE ISSUES THROUGH CELL TOWERS, OF</p><p>ALL THINGS, BACK IN THE '90s, WHICH LAUNCHED ME INTO THE </p><p>PLANNING COMMISSION.</p><p>I THINK IT WAS 1999 TO 2001.</p><p>FROM THERE I WENT TO THE KEYSTONE CIVIC ASSOCIATION TO </p><p>COMMUNITY PLANNING, SO MY BACKGROUND IS REALLY MORE TOWARDS</p><p>LAND USE.</p><p>BUT IN THE COURSE OF LEARNING ALL THE -- YES, AND I DID </p><p>READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.</p><p>I DO BORING QUITE WELL. 38</p><p>I STARTED WATCHING THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETINGS, SEEING </p><p>SOME OF THE FUN THINGS THAT GOING ON ON THAT, SO HAVE </p><p>BROADENED MY HORIZONS WITH THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GO ON </p><p>WITHIN THE COUNTY.</p><p>I HAVE RETIRED FROM BUSINESS.</p><p>I WAS IN THE COSMETIC INDUSTRY FOR 30 YEARS, WHERE WE SOLD </p><p>HOPE, NOT MIRACLES, AND TRAVELED THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND </p><p>ALSO THROUGHOUT THE CAROLINAS.</p><p>RETIRED -- MY HUSBAND -- I THINK IT'S 2006 OR 2007, WE </p><p>BUILT A HOUSE.</p><p>WE DISAGREE ON HOW LONG IT TOOK TO BUILD THAT HOUSE, BUT WE</p><p>MADE IT THROUGH THAT.</p><p>AND I WAS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHEN MY HUSBAND RAN FOR </p><p>COUNTY COMMISSION IN 2008, AND AGAIN, AS A STATE HOUSE REP,</p><p>MEET A VARIETY OF PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.</p><p>IT'S A VERY INTERESTING SITUATION TO BE IN.</p><p>I'M GLAD THAT HE'S DONE IT.</p><p>DO NOT WANT TO DO IT AGAIN.</p><p>AND THROUGH THAT, THAT'S HOW I MET COMMISSIONER BECKNER, </p><p>AND HE CALLED AND ASKED IF I WOULD SIT ON THE CAC, AND I </p><p>THOUGHT ABOUT IT.</p><p>I WAS A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK, BUT I SAID, WELL, I'LL REALLY </p><p>FIND OUT EVEN MORE THE INTRICACIES OF HOW THE COUNTY WORKS,</p><p>SO THAT'S ME. 39</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THANK YOU.</p><p>KAY?</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HILLSBOROUGH </p><p>COUNTY SINCE 1970.</p><p>WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I AND OUR TWO SONS MOVED HERE.</p><p>AND I WAS VERY ACTIVE IN THE '70s AND '80s IN THE LEAGUE OF</p><p>WOMEN VOTERS.</p><p>AND AT THAT TIME, WHEN I WAS ACTIVE, COMMISSIONER PLATT WAS</p><p>COMMISSIONER, AND SHE ALWAYS SELECTED A LEAGUE MEMBER TO </p><p>REPRESENT HER ON THIS COMMITTEE, AND THE LEAGUE MEMBER THAT</p><p>HAD BEEN SERVING HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE SHE HAD A FAMILY </p><p>HEALTH ISSUE, AND I OFFERED TO BE THAT PERSON BECAUSE I </p><p>WANTED TO LEARN ABOUT THE COUNTY OR MORE ABOUT THE COUNTY </p><p>AND ITS INTRICACIES.</p><p>AND THIS IS JUST AN ASIDE.</p><p>MY HUSBAND SAID YOU DON'T REALLY THINK YOU'LL MAKE A </p><p>DIFFERENCE; DO YOU?</p><p>AND I SAID I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'LL LEARN.</p><p>AND CLEARLY, I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE, YOU </p><p>KNOW, I JOKINGLY SAY THE HISTORIAN.</p><p>I HAVE BEEN ON A LONG TIME, ALMOST 30 YEARS ON THE </p><p>COMMITTEE, YEAH.</p><p>AND I HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY FIVE DIFFERENT COUNTY </p><p>COMMISSIONERS. 40</p><p>AND I -- UNLIKE BARBARA, I AM NOT THE PERSON THAT GOES AND </p><p>SELECTS A SPECIFIC ISSUE TO DO, BUT I MEAN, I'M MORE OF A </p><p>GENERALIST, AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT.</p><p>AS YOU ALL KNOW, I THINK, MY SPECIFIC AREA OF EXPERTISE IS </p><p>HEALTHCARE, PARTICULARLY SUBSTANCE ABUSE AREAS, BUT BECAUSE</p><p>I HAVE TWO ENGINEERS, MY HUSBAND AND MY SON, WHO ARE </p><p>PRACTICING ENGINEERS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, I KNOW A LOT </p><p>ABOUT LAND USE.</p><p>SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE AT THE TIME I JOINED IT, THE </p><p>COMMITTEE WROTE THE TREE ORDINANCE THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY</p><p>HAS, THE SIGN ORDINANCE THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS, THE </p><p>ADMINISTRATOR'S CODE, AND WE LITERALLY DID IT.</p><p>AND WE WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.</p><p>I MEAN, I COULD GO ON AND ON WITH LOTS OF LITTLE THINGS, </p><p>BUT I THINK -- AND THE REASON THAT I PUT MY NAME IN IS THAT</p><p>ONE OF MY SKILL SETS PROFESSIONALLY IS LEADERSHIP AT </p><p>MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: ALL RIGHT.</p><p>THANK YOU.</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>SO EVERYONE FILL OUT THEIR BALLOT.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM HIM ON THE NEXT </p><p>ONE. 41</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: PERHAPS WHILE BETH IS TALLYING THOSE UP, </p><p>CRISTAN CAN GIVE US HIS BACKGROUND.</p><p>I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO BE ACCIDENTALLY THOUGHT OF AS A CHAIR </p><p>CANDIDATE.</p><p>THAT WAS MY CONCERN.</p><p>I WANTED TO GET THAT BALLOT IN, THEN HE WOULD REALLY THINK </p><p>I WAS CONSPIRING TO MAKE HIM CHAIR.</p><p>PLEASE, CRISTAN.</p><p>>>CRISTAN FADAL: I CAME TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN 1990, A </p><p>COUPLE YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL, WENT TO USF, WORKED IN THE </p><p>ACCOUNTING FIELD, CONSULTING FIELD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, </p><p>MOVED INTO -- I ACTUALLY MOVED AWAY FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO</p><p>CHICAGO, SO REALLY SAW BIG CITY LIVING, A LOT OF </p><p>TRANSPORTATION, DRIVING IN THE SNOW OR NOT DRIVING IN THE </p><p>SNOW BECAUSE OF TRANSPORTATION.</p><p>MOVED BACK HERE.</p><p>GOT INVOLVED IN REAL ESTATE.</p><p>I HAVE BEEN DOING REAL ESTATE EVER SINCE.</p><p>ON A VOLUNTEER PERSPECTIVE, I'M PRESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLAND </p><p>CIVIC ASSOCIATION.</p><p>BEFORE THAT WAS TREASURER AND DID LAND USE ZONING FOR THEM </p><p>BEFORE THAT. 42</p><p>I CURRENTLY SIT AS VICE CHAIR OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR </p><p>HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND LOOKS LIKE PROBABLY WILL BE CHAIR </p><p>THIS COMING -- NEXT MEETING.</p><p>WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH.</p><p>YOU KNOW, FOR ME, IT'S REALLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE </p><p>THE SKILLS I HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM A DIFFERENT </p><p>PERSPECTIVE, I THINK.</p><p>A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE COUNTY DO RELATE </p><p>TO -- OH, ALSO I'M A SMALL BUSINESS, SO WITH MY WIFE, SO I </p><p>THINK A BRING A PRETTY UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE OF BUILDING A </p><p>BUSINESS FROM SCRATCH.</p><p>THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON WITH REAL ESTATE AND LAND </p><p>USE ZONING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, SO I THINK I CAN BRING </p><p>THAT TO THE COMMITTEE THAT'S KIND OF THE BACKGROUND.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THANK YOU.</p><p>BETH IS STILL TALLYING.</p><p>IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR -- OH, NO, YOU WERE HEAD DOWN, SO </p><p>YOU WERE LOOKING LIKE YOU WERE FOCUSED.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YES, ALTHOUGH WE NEED TO KNOW THE RESULTS OF</p><p>THE CHAIR BEFORE THE VICE BECAUSE IT MAY -- IT COULD -- </p><p>OKAY.</p><p>MAY NOT HAVE TO VOTE.</p><p>EXACTLY. 43</p><p>THANK YOU.</p><p>YEAH, THIS IS THE RESULTS.</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>BARBARA ADERHOLD.</p><p>CONGRATULATIONS, BARBARA.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YOU WILL DO FANTASTIC.</p><p>YOU'LL DO FANTASTIC.</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>SO IF WE COULD VOTE FOR VICE CHAIR.</p><p>YES, DEBORAH.</p><p>>>DEBORAH COPE: WHILE WE ARE TABULATING, I JUST WANT TO SAY</p><p>THANK YOU TO JAY.</p><p>HE'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB THIS YEAR AS CHAIR.</p><p>[APPLAUSE]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THANK YOU.</p><p>BEEN A LOT OF FUN.</p><p>I HAVE ENJOYED IT.</p><p>I CERTAINLY WILL MISS ALL OF YOU ALL.</p><p>MAYBE NOT SPENCER.</p><p>NO, I KID SPENCER BECAUSE I LOVE HIM.</p><p>THANK YOU.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: YOU WANT TO DO SOME UPDATE STUFF WHILE SHE 44</p><p>IS COUNTING?</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YES, WE CAN MOVE ON.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: MY SECRET WISH IS THAT SPENCER WAS GOING TO </p><p>BE THE CHAIR.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: THE CHAIR ONLY GETS TO TALK AT THE END.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THAT'S CORRECT.</p><p>IT'S NOT A GOOD MATCH.</p><p>SO THERE IS AN ITEM UPDATE ON LED PROJECTS.</p><p>OH, WE ARE READY.</p><p>YOU HAVE TO GET THOSE CERTIFIED?</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>FOR VICE CHAIR, IN A VERY, VERY CLOSE RACE, CRISTAN FOR </p><p>VICE CHAIR.</p><p>CONGRATULATIONS.</p><p>VERY CLOSE.</p><p>AS CLOSE AS IT CAN GET.</p><p>[APPLAUSE]</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>NEXT UP, UPDATE ON LED PROJECTS.</p><p>NOT SURE WE HAVE ONE.</p><p>IS THERE --</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC] 45</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IN </p><p>GENERAL, FOR -- I HAD A MEETING THIS PAST WEEK WITH SANDY </p><p>MURMAN WITH SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE.</p><p>SHE HAS SOME CONTACTS FOR THE UNDERGROUNDING PART, AND SHE </p><p>IS GOING TO SEE IF THEY'LL BE WILLING TO COME.</p><p>I KNOW WE HAD ISSUES WITH GETTING THEM TO COME TO SPEAK TO </p><p>US, SO SHE IS GOING TO PASS HER TECO CONTACT INFORMATION </p><p>THAT PERHAPS THEY'LL DISCUSS THAT ALSO ON TO BETH.</p><p>THEY'LL GET THAT TO BETH.</p><p>SO AT LEAST MAYBE -- I KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY LUCK TALKING</p><p>TO THEM.</p><p>SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: MY FINAL THOUGHT ON LED, SINCE IT'S </p><p>HOPEFULLY THE LAST TIME I'LL EVER HAVE TO HEAR THIS TOPIC, </p><p>THIS ALL MAY BE A BIT PREMATURE BY A FEW YEARS, AND I GET </p><p>THE SENSE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.</p><p>BUT THE CURRENT PROCESS AND STRUCTURE AND THE RELATIONSHIP </p><p>WITH TECO AND THE WAY THE LIGHTING DISTRICTS WORK, THE WAY </p><p>IT'S ALL STRUCTURED NOW, IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THAT TYPE </p><p>OF CHANGE TO HAPPEN AT ANY POINT.</p><p>SO EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE THE ISSUE IS PREMATURE NOW, I DO </p><p>BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION ON THE PROCESS AND THE TRANSPARENCY </p><p>INVOLVED WITH THIS IS VERY PERTINENT BECAUSE EVENTUALLY, 20</p><p>YEARS FROM NOW, THEY WILL ALL BE LED LIGHTS OR SOMETHING 46</p><p>OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.</p><p>SO WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.</p><p>I THINK THE QUESTION IS FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ARE WE </p><p>GOING TO BE ONE OF THE LAST TO GET THERE OR ARE WE GOING TO</p><p>BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT SECOND WAVE OF ADOPTION, WHICH IS WHAT</p><p>I THINK WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE.</p><p>EVEN THOUGH WE ALL JOKE ABOUT THE LED STREETLIGHTING, I </p><p>HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND REAL CONCERNS </p><p>ABOUT TECO AND THE WAY THEY HANDLE THIS AND THE LACK OF </p><p>TRANSPARENCY THAT'S INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS.</p><p>IT MAY BE PREMATURE, BUT I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THE </p><p>COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE TO PRESS THIS ISSUE JUST BECAUSE, AT </p><p>THE VERY LEAST, GET SOME PROCESS CHANGE AND STRUCTURE </p><p>CHANGE SO WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, IT CAN ACTUALLY </p><p>HAPPEN IN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME.</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>ANYTHING ELSE ON LED?</p><p>>> I AM AFRAID TO SAY.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: JAY, JUST A COMMENT.</p><p>I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU ALL NOTICED, IF YOU WENT TO THE </p><p>STATE FAIR, BUT TECO HAD A BIG THING SHOWING ONE OF </p><p>THEIR -- THERE WAS A POLE WITH THE LED LIGHTS AND TALKING </p><p>ABOUT IT. 47</p><p>>> DID YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF IT FOR SPENCER?</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>KAY DOUGHTY: I JUST FOUND IT INTEREST.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT I AM TRYING NOT TO</p><p>START TODAY.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>> EGGING HIM ON.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THAT'S RIGHT.</p><p>POKE THE BEAR.</p><p>YOU ARE GOING TO GET BIT.</p><p>I JUST WANT TO WARN EVERYONE.</p><p>ANYTHING ELSE IN LEDs?</p><p>NO.</p><p>NEXT UP, THE NEIGHBORHOODS CONFERENCE DISCUSSION.</p><p>IS THIS THE -- I AM NOT SURE WHAT THIS WAS.</p><p>IS THIS THE BOOTH AT THE --</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: WELL, I SAID I WOULD GO MAN THE BOOTH </p><p>AT THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD RELATIONS ON THE 15th.</p><p>I DON'T KNOW IF -- I THINK RON, YOU HAD INDICATED SOME --</p><p>>>RONALD GOVIN: [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>> ANYBODY ELSE?</p><p>I AM GOING TO BE BY MYSELF?</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: I'LL CHECK TO SEE.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: BUT I PLAN ON BEING THERE FROM 8:00 TO 48</p><p>2:30.</p><p>I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE.</p><p>EVEN IF YOU DO TWO SHIFTS.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: BARBARA, DID THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE </p><p>GOING TO DO THERE?</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: NO, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT TODAY.</p><p>I WILL GET WITH WANDA IF I NEED TO.</p><p>DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN -- >>GAYE </p><p>TOWNSEND: WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TELL WHAT WE DID?</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: WE HAVE TIME.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: ONE THING WE DID IS WE BROUGHT </p><p>APPLICATIONS FOR THE COMMITTEES THAT ARE OPEN IN THE COUNTY.</p><p>AND WHAT WE DID WAS SPOKE TO PEOPLE INFORMING THEM HOW THEY</p><p>COULD FILL THEM OUT, WHAT THEIR INTERESTS WERE, AND TO BE </p><p>PART OF THE COUNTY AND THAT WAS A GOOD RESPONSE BECAUSE </p><p>THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THEM SENT BACK TO THE COUNTY.</p><p>WE ALSO HANDED OUT SOME LITERATURE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF </p><p>WE HAVE ANY MORE.</p><p>WE GAVE THEM THE COUNTY BOOKS THAT HAVE THE DIFFERENT </p><p>DEPARTMENTS IN IT.</p><p>THEN SPOKE ABOUT OUR ROLES ON THIS COMMITTEE AND ENCOURAGED</p><p>THEM WHEN WE MET AND THE CONTACTS, THAT THEY WERE WELCOME </p><p>TO COME TO VISIT THE COMMITTEE, DISCUSS ISSUES, OR THEY </p><p>WILL PLEASE CONTACT BETH -- NOT BETH AT THE TIME -- 49</p><p>BRANDON, EDITH.</p><p>I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THREE OF THEM -- TO CONTACT THEM </p><p>RATHER THAN CONTACT ME IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, AND </p><p>THEN SEE IF IT -- I MEAN, THEY STILL CAN EMAIL US </p><p>INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A BETTER FORMAT IF THEY </p><p>WENT THROUGH YOU THAN ONE OF US, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE ALWAYS </p><p>WELCOME TO COME TO ME.</p><p>SO ANY OTHER IDEAS?</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT </p><p>THE ISSUES, PERHAPS HAVE A SHEET THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST WRITE</p><p>DOWN WHAT ISSUES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DISCUSS OR MORE </p><p>RESEARCH ON.</p><p>SO IT'S A PERFECT TIME BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO COME </p><p>HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT -- AND MAYBE IT MIGHT BE </p><p>STREETLIGHTING.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: BUT BARBARA, THEY WILL GET YOU THE </p><p>APPLICATIONS.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: OKAY.</p><p>THAT WOULD BE LUANN FINLEY WOULD HAVE ALL THE OPENINGS, I </p><p>BELIEVE.</p><p>BECAUSE THEY ARE ALWAYS ADVERTISING FOR OPENINGS FOR </p><p>POSITIONS ON DIFFERENT BOARDS.</p><p>FOR YOU TWO, JAY. 50</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: I DON'T KNOW IF BETH IS GOING TO BE THERE </p><p>THAT DAY.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: BECAUSE WHAT THEY DID, THEY BROUGHT THE </p><p>CLIPBOARDS, ALL THE INFORMATION, PENCILS, WHATEVER, AND THE</p><p>LITTLE CITIZENS ADVISORY SIGN, AND THEY BROUGHT IT TO US.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: OKAY.</p><p>I'M THERE.</p><p>DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNAGE?</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: WHO IS CREATIVE?</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: I REMEMBER US HAVING A SIGN THAT AT SOME </p><p>POINT THAT BRANDON WOULD PUT UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS </p><p>BEFORE THE MEETING.</p><p>SOMEWHERE.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: BECAUSE HE BROUGHT THAT THERE.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YEAH.</p><p>DEBORAH?</p><p>>>DEBORAH COPE: LOCATION IS HCC?</p><p>DALE MABRY?</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: YES, DALE MABRY CAMPUS, YES, SORRY.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: DON'T DO WHAT I DID. 51</p><p>CHECK THE DATE.</p><p>BECAUSE I WENT A WEEK EARLY.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: YOU WERE JUST PREPARED.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: WHERE'S EVERYBODY AT?</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: IT IS THE 15th OF MARCH.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: PLEASE HAVE TOM OR SOMEBODY REMIND ME.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: OKAY.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: ANYTHING ELSE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD </p><p>CONFERENCES?</p><p>NO?</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>NEXT ARE THE -- EXCUSE ME -- THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS.</p><p>ANY MOVEMENT FROM LAST MEETING?</p><p>ANY MEETINGS, ANY UPDATES?</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: STILL NO TOILET FLUSH, STILL NO WATER </p><p>CONSERVATION MEETINGS.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: OKAY.</p><p>THAT'S SIMPLE.</p><p>NEXT UP, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPORTS.</p><p>NOW, THIS IS THE TOILET FLUSH PART?</p><p>THE WATER -- THEY HAVE NOT MET?</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE TOILET'S </p><p>FLUSHING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MET. 52</p><p>I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF LETTER SENT THERE </p><p>SAYING IS THIS COMMITTEE STILL ACTIVE OR IS IT NOT STILL </p><p>ACTIVE.</p><p>IT IS APPOINTED EACH MEMBER -- ALTHOUGH I AM THE </p><p>REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CAC, MY REAPPOINTMENT WAS, WHAT, </p><p>LAST FALL, AND I RECEIVED A LETTER THAT I WAS APPOINTED.</p><p>FROM KEN HAGAN.</p><p>AGAIN, SO IF THIS IS A COUNTY COMMITTEE, WE -- I MEAN, I </p><p>HEARD THAT THE CHAIR SAID, OH, NO, WE DON'T NEED A MEETING.</p><p>WELL, I AM THE VICE CHAIR, SO THEY DON'T ASK ME.</p><p>BUT IN ANY CASE, WE NEED TO FIND OUT FROM THE BOARD OF </p><p>COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, IS THIS COMMITTEE STILL ACTIVE?</p><p>AND IF NOT, DISBAND IT OR GET ON WITH THE MEETING.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: I THINK THAT'S GREAT.</p><p>DO WE WANT TO DRAFT A LETTER FROM THE CAC TO THE COUNTY </p><p>COMMISSIONERS ASKING THAT QUESTION?</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: MOVE TO SEND THEM A LETTER.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: ALL RIGHT.</p><p>MOTION.</p><p>SPENCER MADE -- HE IS MR. MOTION.</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>SECOND.</p><p>NUMEROUS SECONDS.</p><p>ALL IN FAVOR. 53</p><p>[CHORUS OF AYES]</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: IT'S CALLED THE WATER TECHNICAL </p><p>ADVISORY -- HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WATER TECHNICAL ADVISORY </p><p>COMMITTEE.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: I DID SEE -- I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE DID --</p><p>YOU CAN WATER LAWNS TWICE A WEEK STARTING MARCH 1.</p><p>SO LAST TIME WE TALKED TO THEM WE SAID YOU SHOULD JUST KEEP</p><p>IT AT ONCE A WEEK FOREVER.</p><p>THAT WAY YOU WON'T GET CONFUSING.</p><p>NICE TO SEE THAT FELL ON DEAF EARS.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: JAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE </p><p>DOING.</p><p>WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE COMMITTEE -- I'LL BE PERFECTLY </p><p>HONEST -- IT BECAME STACKED.</p><p>WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS FROM </p><p>HOMEOWNERS.</p><p>THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A GUY WHO WAS A NURSERY, HE </p><p>BECAME HOMEOWNERS.</p><p>WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY, AND </p><p>THEN WE END UP WITH AN ENVIRONMENTALIST FROM SWFWMD.</p><p>SO -- AND THE CHAIR SITS ON THE SWFWMD BOARD.</p><p>OF COURSE, I ASKED HIM IF THAT WAS A CONFLICT, AND HE SAID </p><p>NO BECAUSE HE CHANGED HIS HAT TO THE GROWERS ASSOCIATION. 54</p><p>SO I MEAN, THE WHOLE THING IS NOT STRUCTURED THE WAY IT'S </p><p>SUPPOSED TO BE, AND I JUST WANT IT LOOKED IN, I WANT AN </p><p>ANSWER THAT I DON'T THINK THE CHAIR SHOULD BE THE ONE WITH </p><p>NORM DAVIS THAT SAYS, OH, NO, WE DON'T NEED IT.</p><p>WE ARE JUST DOING FINE.</p><p>BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.</p><p>THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, ABOUT DECIDING ON </p><p>WATERING AND NOT WATERING.</p><p>SO NOW THAT I HAVE SAID MY PIECE ON THAT.</p><p>>> ISN'T SWFWMD THE ONE THAT DECIDES, DECREES?</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: BUT SEE, THE COUNTY MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: OKAY.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: SO WE ACTUALLY MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO </p><p>SWFWMD TO OPPOSE OR NOT TO OPPOSE.</p><p>>>BARBARA ADERHOLD: THIS COMMITTEE, THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY?</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: YEAH, I'M SURE YOU HEARD ME AT THE LAST </p><p>MEETING WITH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABOUT MY </p><p>CONCERN ABOUT STACKING THIS COMMITTEE.</p><p>IT'S NOT RIGHT.</p><p>IF YOU HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTALIST, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE </p><p>FROM SWFWMD; IF YOU HAVE AN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, IT'S </p><p>NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MURPHY'S GARDENER.</p><p>SO I MEAN, IT GOT REALLY BAD.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: OKAY. 55</p><p>ANY OTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEES?</p><p>I DON'T KNOW WHO IS ON WHICH COMMITTEE, BUT -- NO?</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>ALMOST DONE.</p><p>WE ARE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS.</p><p>MOSTLY SCHEDULING ITEMS.</p><p>LET ME READ OFF WHAT WE HAVE UPCOMING.</p><p>FOR MARCH WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON AGRICULTURE.</p><p>APRIL IS TRASH AND RECYCLING.</p><p>SO WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS.</p><p>AND ALSO FLOOD MAPS AND FEMA FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY </p><p>HAZARD MITIGATION, SO TWO IN APRIL.</p><p>MAY WILL BE THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE BOCC.</p><p>JUNE WE HAVE REQUESTED THE SPORTS AUTHORITY AND SPORTS </p><p>COMMISSION.</p><p>JULY 1 WE'RE REQUESTING THE NEW ANIMAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.</p><p>AND STARTING IN AUGUST, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, WE'RE OPEN, SO </p><p>WE NEED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPEAKERS FOR AUGUST AND </p><p>SEPTEMBER.</p><p>OUR NEW TOUR MONTH IS OCTOBER.</p><p>SO WE JUST NEED TO REQUEST OR FINALIZE WHERE WE WANT TO GO </p><p>IN OCTOBER.</p><p>LASTLY, IN DECEMBER -- TYPICALLY THIS WAS THE TOUR MONTH --</p><p>WE VOTED TO MOVE IT AWAY FROM DECEMBER SINCE THE FOURTH 56</p><p>FRIDAY IS USUALLY IN THE HOLIDAYS.</p><p>THERE'S A THOUGHT DO WE WANT TO EITHER NOT HAVE A MEETING </p><p>IN DECEMBER OR SCHEDULE IT EARLIER IN THE MONTH I THINK </p><p>WOULD BE THE TWO OPPORTUNITIES.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: JUST LEAVE IT OPEN AND SEE IF THERE ARE </p><p>ANY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, NOT </p><p>NECESSARILY RIGHT NOW, BUT CERTAINLY WITHIN 90 DAYS OF </p><p>DECEMBER TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO COMBINE THE MEETINGS </p><p>AND JUST HAVE ONE MEETING IN NOVEMBER.</p><p>I THINK THAT'S WHY TRADITIONALLY THE TOUR WAS DONE IN </p><p>DECEMBER BECAUSE WE HAD NO MEETING.</p><p>BUT IT IS COLD IN DECEMBER OR CAN BE.</p><p>SO AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MADE NOW, BUT I THINK </p><p>THAT IS -- AT SOME POINT WE JUST NEED TO DECIDE WITH MOVING</p><p>THE TOUR TO OCTOBER THEN WHAT TO DO ABOUT DECEMBER.</p><p>>> ARE WE RESCHEDULING CUTR?</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>> DID THEY INDICATE WHEN THEY CANCELED THAT THEY WOULD BE </p><p>HAPPY TO COME BACK AT ANOTHER TIME?</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: LET'S JUST REMIND THE SPEAKERS WHEN THEY </p><p>COME TO TRY TO GET IT DOWN TO FIVE MINUTES SO WE HAVE MORE </p><p>TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND A LITTLE LESS TIME FOR --</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: YEAH, I THINK 15 MINUTES AND -- 57</p><p>FIVE SECONDS ON LED.</p><p>EXACTLY.</p><p>[LAUGHTER]</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>A COUPLE OF OPEN ISSUES FROM LAST MONTH.</p><p>ONE IS THE BUSINESS PLAN SUBCOMMITTEE NEEDS TO ELECT A NEW </p><p>CHAIR.</p><p>I AM ASSUMING THEY WILL DO THAT ON THEIR OWN.</p><p>AND LASTLY, LET'S SEE, MR. CAETANO HAD REQUESTED A FIRE </p><p>RESCUE MAP TO SHOW WHAT FIRE STATIONS ARE COVERING WHICH </p><p>GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.</p><p>I THINK WE ALMOST GOT THAT DONE IN TIME FOR THIS MEETING, </p><p>BUT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME MORE INFORMATION.</p><p>BASICALLY, WHAT WE HAVE REQUESTED IS A MAP OF HILLSBOROUGH </p><p>COUNTY WITH THE LOCATIONS OF THE FIREHOUSES ON THE MAP, </p><p>WHETHER THEY'RE CITY OR COUNTY FIREHOUSES, AND A RADIUS, A </p><p>CIRCLE, THE AREA THEY COVER.</p><p>AND INSIDE OF THAT, THE NUMBER OF POPULATION THAT THEY </p><p>COVER BECAUSE MORE DENSE AREAS, LIKE USF AREA HAS MORE </p><p>FIREHOUSES.</p><p>MORE RURAL AREAS HAS LESS.</p><p>SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF AREA COVERED AND PEOPLE COVERED OR</p><p>MAYBE STRUCTURES, WHATEVER STAT THEY USE.</p><p>BUT THEY'RE COMPILING THAT INFORMATION, AND WE GOT THE MAP 58</p><p>WITH THE FIRE STATIONS ON IT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY </p><p>INFORMATION TO OVERLAY ON TOP OF THAT.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: DID WE GET THE MAP OR DID YOU GET A </p><p>RESPONSE ABOUT THE MAPS BY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION?</p><p>YOU WERE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM ON THAT AND HAD BEEN </p><p>PROMISED --</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.</p><p>THAT MUST HAVE SLIPPED.</p><p>THAT WASN'T ON MY LIST, SPENCER.</p><p>I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.</p><p>THAT MUST HAVE BEEN MY FAULT.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: IF WE CAN REVISIT THAT.</p><p>ON THAT NOTE, HERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS FOR EVERYBODY.</p><p>THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE MAYOR -- I WAS AT A MEETING WITH A </p><p>GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE -- HE HAS AGREED THAT THE CITY</p><p>OF TAMPA WILL DO ITS BEST TO GIVE US A BREAKDOWN OF CAPITAL</p><p>IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS BY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.</p><p>SO HE'S DECIDED TO ORDER STAFF.</p><p>STAFF SAID THEY WANTED AN ORDER FROM HIM TO DO IT.</p><p>HE SAID HE'S GOING TO ORDER THEM TO DO IT.</p><p>I KNOW HE WILL KEEP HIS WORD.</p><p>AT LEAST ON THAT FRONT, IN TERMS OF CITY, WE ARE MOVING </p><p>FORWARD.</p><p>WE WILL HAVE THAT DATA SET FOR EVERYBODY. 59</p><p>AS SOON AS I GET IT, I WILL MAKE SURE IT'S SHARED.</p><p>ACTUALLY, NEXT WEEK I WILL BE MEETING WITH HIS BUDGET </p><p>DIRECTOR WITH A GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE.</p><p>SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS ON THAT FRONT.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: CAN WE GET THAT FROM THE COUNTY?</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: THE ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY IS WE DON'T HAVE </p><p>THE MAPS, SO WE CAN'T GET WHAT'S COLLECTED BY NEIGHBORHOOD.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: THEY ARE.</p><p>IT COMES DOWN TO HOW MUCH STAFF TIME IT IS TO PUT IT </p><p>TOGETHER.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: IT CAN'T BE THAT HARD.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: IT'S A BIG COUNTY.</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>THAT WAS IT FOR MY OTHER BUSINESS.</p><p>ANY OTHER OTHER BUSINESS?</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: I WILL DO A COUPLE OTHER QUICK UPDATES FOR </p><p>EVERYBODY.</p><p>IN TERMS OF UNDERGROUNDING POWER LINES, THE GOOD NEWS IS IS</p><p>THAT VERIZON IS WORKING -- I MET WITH ONE OF THEIR </p><p>CONTRACTORS.</p><p>I HAVE SPOKEN WITH PEOPLE OVER THERE.</p><p>THEY ARE WORKING -- AS YOU KNOW, THEY DEPLOYED FIBER OPTIC </p><p>LINES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, PRETTY MUCH.</p><p>THEY ARE WORKING ON GETTING OLD COPPER LINES OFF THE POLES 60</p><p>WHERE THEY ARE DEAD AND NOT NEEDED ANYMORE.</p><p>WHEN IT COMES TO UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES, THAT WILL MAKE </p><p>IT A FAR LESS EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION FOR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT </p><p>ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT BECAUSE BEFORE YOU WOULD HAVE </p><p>TO PAY TO BURY ANY OTHER LINES THAT ARE UP THERE.</p><p>SO THAT BASICALLY LEAVES ON THE TECO POLES TECO AND </p><p>BRIGHTHOUSE.</p><p>AND I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION </p><p>THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING WITH, AND I'M BLANKING ON WHERE </p><p>IT IS FOR NOW.</p><p>>> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: THANK YOU.</p><p>THEY ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE COUNTY -- WE WERE UPDATED </p><p>ON THAT AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION, OUR JOINT MEETING LAST </p><p>YEAR.</p><p>THEY ARE STILL WAITING ON LEGAL TO GET SORT OF ALL THE I'S </p><p>DOTTED AND T'S CROSSED FOR CREATING THESE LITTLE TAXING </p><p>DISTRICTS, WHICH THEY CAN VOTE ON FOR THEMSELVES AND WHAT </p><p>THE PERCENTAGE VOTES NEED TO BE.</p><p>THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT.</p><p>THEY IN THEIR AREA DID GET BRIGHTHOUSE TO BURY THEIR LINES </p><p>SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.</p><p>SO EVENTUALLY, MAYBE WE WANT TO GET SOME SORT OF -- DOESN'T</p><p>HAVE TO BE TODAY. 61</p><p>YOU CAN ALL THINK ABOUT IT -- SOME SORT OF LETTER OUT TO </p><p>BRIGHTHOUSE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CONVERSATION.</p><p>HOW ABOUT YOU GET OFF THE TECO POLES BECAUSE WE WANT TO </p><p>IMPROVE NEIGHBORHOODS.</p><p>THAT'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT THAT MAYBE </p><p>DOWN THE ROAD WE WANT TO EITHER HAVE A BRIGHTHOUSE </p><p>REPRESENTATIVE HERE OR SEND THEM A LETTER AND SAY HEY, THIS</p><p>WOULD BE NICE.</p><p>THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO UPDATE YOU GUYS ON.</p><p>OH, THERE WAS ALSO A JOINT MEETING WITH ALL OF THE CITY </p><p>SENIOR STAFF, INCLUDING THE MAYOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF, AND </p><p>SOMEBODY ELSE ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP INTERGOVERNMENTAL </p><p>COOPERATION.</p><p>AND THEN I FOLLOWED UP WITH IT.</p><p>THEY UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE AN ISSUE.</p><p>THEY UNDERSTAND THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE OF IT.</p><p>FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HICCUPS, AND </p><p>MAYBE DEBORAH COULD UPDATE US ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM.</p><p>OKAY.</p><p>BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE SLOWDOWNS WITH THE </p><p>IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH WAS KIND OF EXPECTED.</p><p>BUT THEY WANT THAT FIRST.</p><p>>>DEBORAH COPE: KIND OF EXPECTED.</p><p>I HAVE NOT RECEIVED MY UPDATE FROM THEM YET. 62</p><p>I SHOULD HAVE PUSHED IT BEFORE THE MEETING.</p><p>I WILL MAKE SURE I HAVE IT.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: THEY JUST HAPPENED TO MENTION BEFORE THE </p><p>MEETING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME HICCUPS.</p><p>THEY WANT TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING BECAUSE THAT WILL GET </p><p>EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PLATFORM.</p><p>ONCE THEY ARE ON THE SAME PLATFORM, THEN THEY FEEL THERE'S </p><p>MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO WORK TOGETHER.</p><p>WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS.</p><p>AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP, FOR EXAMPLE, USE THE CITY OF TAMPA'S</p><p>SMARTPHONE APP TO REPORT POTHOLES.</p><p>THEY WEREN'T, AND SINCE MOST OF THE STREETS IN THE CITY ARE</p><p>OWNED BY THE COUNTY, THEY WEREN'T REPORTING IT TO THE </p><p>COUNTY.</p><p>THEY WERE TELLING YOU TO REPORT IT TO THE COUNTY.</p><p>AFTER HEARING THAT, THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR POSITION.</p><p>THEY WILL FORWARD IT ON TO THE COUNTY AS APPROPRIATE AND </p><p>TELL THEM TO PLEASE GO OUT AND FIX THE POTHOLES.</p><p>BUT IT'S THAT SORT OF LITTLE STUFF THAT MAKES A BIG </p><p>DIFFERENCE TO CITIZENS AND HELPS KEEP EVERYTHING NEAT AND </p><p>CLEAN.</p><p>SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: GAYE?</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: IN OTHER WORDS, SO I HAVE THIS PERFECTLY 63</p><p>CLEAR, SINCE VERIZON'S ARE BURIED, THEY'RE ASKING POSSIBLY </p><p>TO HAVE BRIGHT HOUSE BURIED AS WELL?</p><p>THEIR CABLES?</p><p>DON'T BURY THEM, BUT BURY THEIR CABLES?</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: THE ISSUE IS IF YOU WANT YOUR UTILITIES </p><p>UNDERGROUNDED, THE RULE IS YOU HAVE TO PAY BASICALLY THE </p><p>EXPENSE THAT TECO WOULD UNDERGO TO BURY THEM.</p><p>NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO PAY TECO, BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR </p><p>ANYBODY THAT'S ON THE POLES AT THAT TIME OF UNDERGROUNDING.</p><p>THE CURRENT PEOPLE ON THEIR POLES, THERE ARE BASICALLY </p><p>THREE GROUPS ON THEIR POLES.</p><p>THERE'S TECO ON TECO'S POLES, THERE'S BRIGHTHOUSE ON TECO'S</p><p>POLES, AND THERE'S VERIZON ON TECO'S POLES.</p><p>VERIZON DOESN'T NEED THEIR WIRE THERE ANYMORE, SO THEY ARE </p><p>NOT GOING TO KEEP HANGING AROUND.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: VERIZON DOESN'T CHARGE TO YOU DO THAT.</p><p>I MEAN, THEY DON'T CHARGE YOU UNDERGROUND.</p><p>WHEN YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED --</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: RIGHT.</p><p>THAT'S NOW WHAT THEY DO, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO TO </p><p>BRIGHT HOUSE, LIKE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YOU SAY I WANT </p><p>BRIGHTHOUSE IN MY HOUSE, THEY WON'T BURY A LINE FOR YOU.</p><p>THEY GO IN THE AIR.</p><p>IF YOU WANT IT BURIED, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. 64</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT VERIZON BURIES</p><p>IT.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: NO, VERIZON BURIES IT AS POLICY.</p><p>>>GAYE TOWNSEND: AND I DID NOTICE BRIGHTHOUSE IS STARTING </p><p>TO TAKE A LOT OF THE -- NOT BRIGHTHOUSE.</p><p>VERIZON IS STARTING TO TAKE A LOT OF LINES DOWN >>JAY </p><p>VICKERS: ANY OTHER BUSINESS?</p><p>NONE?</p><p>ALL RIGHT.</p><p>LOOKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.</p><p>SEEING NONE, MOTION TO ADJOURN.</p><p>>>SPENCER KASS: MOVE TO ADJOURN.</p><p>>>JAY VICKERS: ALL RIGHT.</p><p>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.</p>

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