y\ CONGRESSIONAL REFORM Y 4.R 86/1: C 76/16 Congressional Reform Hearing, lG4t. -i JT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND JOINT HEARINGS BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AND BUDGET PROCESS AND SUBCOMMITTEE ON RULES AND ORGANIZATION OP THE HOUSE OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FOURTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON BUILDING ON CHANGE: PREPARING FOR THE 105TH CONGRESS JULY 17, 24, AND SEPTEMBER 5, 12, 1996 Printed for the use of the Committee on Rules 13 Cj U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 27-S46CC WASHINGTON : 1996 For sale by the U.S. Government Printing Office Superintendent of Documents, Congressional Sales Office, Washington, DC 20402 ISBN 0-16-053646-4 y\ CONGRESSIONAL REFORM .0 Y4.R 86/1: C 76/16 Congressional Reforn, Hearing, 104t. i JT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON RULES AND JOINT HEARINGS BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AND BUDGET PROCESS AND SUBCOMMITTEE ON RULES AND ORGANIZATION OP THE HOUSE OF THE COMMITTEE ON RULES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FOURTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON BUILDING ON CHANGE: PREPARING FOR THE 105TH CONGRESS JULY 17, 24, AND SEPTEMBER 5, 12, 1996 Printed for the use of the Committee on Rules C ° 13 13SS U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 27-646CC WASHINGTON : 1996 For sale by the U.S. Government Printing Office Superintendent of Documents. Congressional Sales Office, Washington, DC 20402 ISBN 0-16-053646-4 COMMITTEE ON RULES GERALD B.H. SOLOMON, New York, Chairman JAMES H. QU1LLEN, Tennessee JOHN JOSEPH MOAKLEY, Massachusetts DAVID DREIER, California ANTHONY C. BEILENSON, California PORTER GOSS, Florida MARTIN FROST, Texas JOHN LINDER, Georgia TONY P. HALL, Ohio DEBORAH PRYCE, Ohio LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART, Florida SCOTT McINNIS, Colorado ENID GREENE, Utah Don Wolfensberger, Chief of Staff GEORGE C. CRAWFORD, Minority Staff Director Bryan H. Roth, Clerk Subcommittee on Legislative and Budget Process PORTER GOSS, Florida, Chairman JAMES H. QUILLEN, Tennessee MARTIN FROST, Texas JOHN LINDER, Georgia JOHN JOSEPH MOAKLEY, Massachusetts DEBORAH PRYCE, Ohio GERALD B.H. SOLOMON, New York WENDY K.D. SELIG, Counsel KRISTI WaLSETH, Minority Staff Director Subcommittee on Rules and Organization of the House DAVID DREIER, California, Chairman LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART, Florida ANTHONY C. BEILENSON, California SCOTT MCINNIS, Colorado TONY P. HALL, Ohio ENID GREENE, Utah GERALD B.H. SOLOMON, New York Vincent Randazzo, Counsel MELISSA RICE KUCKRO, Minority Counsel CONTENTS Page July 17, 1996 Opening statement of Hon. Gerald B.H. Solomon, chairman of the Committee on Rules 1 Opening statement of Hon. John Joseph Moakley, ranking Minority member of the Committee on Rules 3 Opening statement of Hon. David Dreier, chairman of the subcommittee on Rules and Organization of the House, of the Committee on Rules 5 Opening statement of Hon. Anthony C. Beilenson, a member of the Commit- tee on Rules (prepared statement p. 7) 6 Opening statement of Hon. Deborah Pryce, a member of the Committee on Rules, submitted for the record 12 Statement of: Rohrabacher, Hon. Dana, a Representative in Congress from the State of California (prepared statement p. 15) 14 Schroeder, Hon. Patricia, a Representative in Congress from the State of Colorado 19 Doolittle, Hon. John T., a Representative in Congress from the State of California (prepared statement p. 29) 29 Volkmer, Hon. Harold L., a Representative in Congress from the State of Missouri (prepared statement p. 37) 36 Pombo, Hon. Richard W., a Representative in Congress from the State of California (prepared statement p. 39) 39 Royce, Hon. Ed, a Representative in Congress from the State of California (prepared statement p.43) 42 Minge, Hon. David, a Representative in Congress from the State of Min- nesota (prepared statement p. 52) 52 Skaggs, Hon. David E., a Representative in Congress from the State of Colorado (prepared statement p.59) 58 Coburn, Hon. Tom, a Representative in Congress from the State of Okla- homa (prepared statement p.61) 60 Eshoo, Hon. Anna, a Representative in Congress from the State of Cali- fornia (prepared statement p.66) 64 Foley, Hon. Mark Adam, a Representative in Congress from the State of Florida 68 Barrett, Hon. Thomas M., a Representative in Congress from the State of Wisconsin (prepared statement p.75) 74 Stupak, Hon. Bart, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michi- gan (prepared statement p. 79) 78 Woolsey, Hon. Lynn, a Representative in Congress from the State of California (prepared statement p. 87) 87 Underwood, Hon. Robert A., a Representative in Congress from the Terri- tory of Guam (prepared statement p. 92) 91 Rivers, Hon. Lynn, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michi- gan (prepared statement p.94) 93 Statement submitted for the record: Miller, Hon. George, a Representative in Congress from the State of California 8 Moran, Hon. James P., a Representative in Congress from the State of Virginia 33 Kanjorski, Hon. Paul E., a Representative in Congress from the State 01 Pennsylvania 34 Nadler, Hon. Jerrold, a Representative in Congress from the State of New York 38 DeLauro, Hon. Rosa L., a Representative in Congress from the State of Connecticut 73 Page Statement submitted for the record—Continued Ganske, Hon. Greg, a Representative in Congress from the State of Iowa 82 July 24, 1996 Opening statement of Hon. David Dreier, chairman of the subcommittee on Rules and Organization of the House, of the Committee on Rules 101 Opening statement of Hon. Anthony Beilenson, a member of the Committee on Rules 102 Opening statement of Hon. Porter J. Goss, chairman of the subcommittee on the Legislative and Budget Process, of the Committee on Rules 104 Opening statement of Hon. Gerald B.H. Solomon, chairman of the Committee on Rules 105 Statement of: Hamilton, Hon. Lee, a Representative in Congress from the State of Indiana (prepared statement p. 110) 106 Bass, Hon. Charles, a Representative in Congress from the State of New Hampshire (prepared statement p. 160) 158 White, Hon. Rick, a Representative in Congress from the State of Wash- ington (prepared statement p. 162) 161 Cardin, Hon. Ben, a Representative in Congress from the State of Mary- land (prepared statement p. 174) 169 Mann, Thomas E., Director of Government Studies, The Brookings Insti- tute (prepared statement p. 190) 187 Ornstein, Dr. Norman, Resident Scholar, The American Enterprise Insti- tute 193 Mason, David M., Vice President of Government Relations, The Heritage Foundation (prepared statement p. 201) 198 Additional material submitted for the record: CRS Report, submitted by Representative Hamiltion 114 September 5, 1996 Opening Statement of Hon. Porter J. Goss, chairman of the subcommittee on the Legislative and Budget Process, of the Committee on Rules 209 Opening Statement of Hon. Gerald B.H. Solomon, chairman of the Committee on Rules 210 Opening Statement of Hon. David Dreier, chairman of the subcommittee on Rules and Organization of the House, of the Committee on Rules 211 Statement of: Minge, Hon. David, a Representative in Congress from the State of Min- nesota (prepared statement p. 235) 234 Shays, Hon. Christopher, a Representative in Congress from the State 01 Connecticut (prepared statement p.236) 236 Barrett, Hon. Thomas M., a Representative in Congress from the State of Wisconsin 237 Hoekstra, Hon. Peter, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michigan (prepared statement p. 247) 245 Wamp, Hon. Zach, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ten- nessee 245 Archer, Hon. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas (prepared statement p.258) 256 Beilenson, Hon. Anthony C, a Representative in Congress from the State of California (prepared statement p. 261) 259 Combest, Hon. Larry, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas 265 Statement submitted for the record: Klug, Hon. Scott, a Representative in Congress from the State of Wiscon- sin 233 Hyde, Hon. Henry, a Representative in Congress from the State of Illi- nois 274 Additional material submitted for the record: Survey of House committee chairman and ranking Minority members, submitted by Representative Dreier 213 Mission Statement submitted by Representative's Klug, Minge, Shays, and T. Barrett 238 Letter submitted by Representative's Beilenson and Archer 262 Page September 12, 1996 Opening statement of Hon. David Dreier, chairman of the subcommittee on Rules and Organization of the House, of the Committee on Rules 277 Opening statement of Hon. Gerald B.H. Solomon, chairman of the Committee on Rules 278 Opening statement of Hon. Porter J. Goss, chairman of the subcommittee on the Legislative and Budget Process, of the Committee on Rules 279 Opening statement of Hon. Deborah Pryce, a member of the Committee on Rules, subcommittee for the record 280 Statement of: Skaggs, Hon. David, a Representative in Congress from the State of Colorado 282 LaHood, Hon. Ray, a Representative in Congress from the State of Illi- nois 283 Sawyer, Hon. Thomas, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ohio 284 Houghton, Hon. Amo, a Representative in Congress from the State of New York 286 Vucanovich, Hon. Barbara, a Representative in Congress from the State of Nevada (prepared statement p. 293) 292 Waxman, Hon. Henry, a Representative in Congress from the State of California (prepared statement p. 297) 295 Wolf, Hon. Frank, a Representative in Congress from the State of Vir- ginia (prepared statement p.308) 304 Roemer, Hon. Tim, a Representative in Congress from the State of Indi- ana (prepared statement p.312) 309 Norton, Hon. Eleanor Holmes, a Representative in Congress from the District of Columbia (prepared statement p. 320) 319 Barton, Hon. Joe, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas (prepared statement p. 327) 325 Statement submitted for the record: Rivers, Hon. Lynn, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michi- gan 294 BUILDING ON CHANGE: PREPARING FOR THE 105TH CONGRESS Wednesday, July 17, 1996 House of Representatives, Committee on Rules, Washington, DC.