Sou.+ C'\ 'Of'\ ~ice - \q75 ERIES X [fold.e' a oC _ •__. ..,....._", ,rnr- .f\r'\f\AA.U'7A.TtnU RI ~ X\ iL I2uI aCt.- ::t0Jl-R-4.l. Sent-d. =r:- President John F. Leyden Executive Vice President PROFESSIONAL AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS ORGANIZATION Robert E. Pol; SUITE 201-A/1568 WILLINGHAM DR., ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30337 (404) 767-0680 Affiliated with M.E.B.A. (AFl.CIOI November 24, 1975 Mr. Robert E. Poli Executive Vice President PATCO Suite 706 2100 M Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20037 Dear Bob: Enclosed is the response from AIR BVIconcerning their request to the CABfor tariff reductions for our members. Sincerely, ~d':A{?e DAVIDE. SIEGEL / Regional Vice President /bg cc: Bill Peer w/Enclosure • R E'C E~"lED NOV 1 7 1975 AIR BVI LTD. (INCORPORATED IN THE BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS) -0 13th November, 1975. Mr. David E. Siegel, Regional Vice President, Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization, Suite 201-A, 1568 Willingham Drive, Atlanta, Georgia 30337. Dear Mr. Siegel, We have finally heard from the CAB in connection with our tariff filing to allow a 50% discount to PATCO employees and their immed- iate families. I'm afraid the news is not too good. The CAB rejected our filing entirely. They went in for a lot of the usual technical reasons but at the heart of the matter the Board feels that there is lack of justification for discount fares for U.S. Government employees. Apparently, they also feel that the filing is discriminatory and if they had not found grounds for rejecting it they would have suspended it. Under the circumstances, there seems little point in pursuing the matter. We are very sorry things have turned out as they have but hope that it will not affect the very fine relationship we feel we have with your members. With kind regardS.~~ ,'I Yours very trul 'jt/ AIR BVI LIMIT ~ t I \.)~. , ~ eter M. Armo~ - Executive Vice President. box 85, road town, tortola b.v.i. • President John F. Lyden becutive Vice Preside"t PROFESSIONAL AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERSORGANIZA nON Robert E. Poli SUITE 201-A/1568 WILLINGHAM DR., ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30337 (404) 767-0680 Aflinoted with M.E.B.A. (AFL.CIO) MEMORANDUM DATE: November 26, 1975 TO: All Terminal Voting Representatives Southern Region FROM: DAVID E. SIEGEL, Regional Vice President SUBJECT: Funding for Terminal Voting Reps Now that the elections for termimal voting representatives 'are completed, I would like to advise you that funding is available,if requested, for communication with other facilities in the exercise of your duties as Terminal Voting Representatives. Funding will be approved in advance through my office and will consist of cost for paper, postage, reproduction, and telephone. Any expenses that are incurred will need to be documented by receipts. I will be more than happy to make distribution of any correspondence that you might desire to send to the facilities that you represent, and of course the paper, postage, reproduction, etc. will be paid by this office. If you have any difficulties please feel free to call upon me. /bg cc: Robert E. Poli PATCO/National • A Div.sron (', cas lnc 51"; W",' <'7S:(aol No·....Y f~, 'oNYo',10019 (212) 765-4321 Dear Dave: December 4, 1975 ' Enclosed is a copy of the letter Dow sent us. In responding to the charges, you can ignore paragraphs 4 and 5 concerning the Eastern Air Lines flight, as this material has not been included in the piece. Please call me if you have any further questions. Sincerely, ' ~~~ Mr. Dave Siegel PATCO Suite 201 A 1568 Willingham Drive Atlanta, Ga. 30337 cc: Mr. Robert Poli PATCO Suite 706 2100 M street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20037 y. Dr:P,' '.'~i::{] 'T OF T~~M':,1 .r lhTWi I FEI", ..;~t.L J .Vl{\ 1 fC1N r». r If' ,S•11(:') ifm -----_ ..-_. - -'--'" -'-" ----_ ..-_._,~_.----- ._- ----.•---._--- RECEIVE NfJV 231975 EC t 7 OITtCC 0;. Mr. Harry Hoses THE Ar)',IINI~; rp"n f! Sixty Minutes - CBS 51 West 52nd Street New York, N.Y. 10019 Dear Hr. }10ses: This refers to the recent CBS "60 Ninutes" Lnt ervLew conducted by Morley Safer in wh Lch I was asked to comment on allegations that military jets use air carrier fliChts as mock intercept, targets 'in off-shore airspace controlled by the Jacksonville Air Route Traffic Control Center. Hr. Safer ci~ed a figure of 13 to 15 such incidents every month. I said at the time that I Has not aware of any such incidents and I did not believe the charges to be true. A subsequent review of the situation has confirmed this vieH. The Jacksonville center does have jurisdiction over a great many military training flights and, for this reason, He mainta:i.nvery close liaison w i th the military services. Horking together, we have established procedures and 'special-use airspace to accommodate these training operations w Lt.hout; interfering with civil traffic. The military has been extremely coopera- tive in helping us identify and resolve potential problems and, as a result, the Jacksonville center has compiled an outstanding safety record. Since the first of the year, we have had only two incidents in wh Lch the possibility of mock intercept operations was raised by either pilots or controllers. The fi.rstHas thoroughly investigated at the time and the intercept allegation disproved. In fact, the military aircraft in the case never left the established wa rn Lng area. The second incident occurred aIt cr our Oc tobcr 15 Lnt crv Lcw arid involved a private xather than a commercial aircraft. It is still under investigation. With regard to the alleged mock intercept involving an Eastern Air Lines flight, wh Lch was cited by Hr. Safer in our interv Lew, this incident \JaS investigated and the possibility of all intercept disproved. Claims hy Mr. Safer that the Eastern flight had to take "severe evasive action" and missed the m lli.tnry plane by "only 100 fcct" also wc rc found LnvnLicl, Our Lnvest Lgn tLou rc-vcn lr-d that the Air force r-/, \"o.~ operating under visual fJ L0hl rul.os Ln nccord.rn cc w Lt.h air rcgu lat Ions, The controller • •• 2 obs crvcd both the 1'-4 .md Eas t r-r n T'Lfgh t 875 (not 879) on radur and gave the af.r car rLcr a dc t alLc-d radnr traf f Lc advisory on t lic military pI anc in acco rdance wi.t h cs t abl.Lahcd procedure. The Eastern pilot did not say he had to take "severe evasive i1CLion" nor did he subsequently file a near mid-air collision report which he was required to do by regulation if such an incident had occurred. In addition to our r evf.ew of the Jacksonville situation, we have discussed the matter "lith top ranking Air Force and Navy personnel. They, in turn. have conducted their ovm investigation and found nothing to substantiate the charge that their aircraf t are' using commercial flights 2S targets of opportunity. Indeed, they emphasized that both services prohibit this practice. ' They assured us that suspected violators wou l.d be promptly grounded and subjected to more severe disciplinary action, if found guilty. Also. pertinent to this discussion is the fact that we have not received any reports of mock intercept operations from the airlines, the Air Trans- portation Association or the Air Line Pilots A~sociation. These organiza- tions are highly safety-oriented and \1Ou1d have no reason to \·Jithholdsuch information. In v Lew of rhe se facts, I think it is incumbent upon CBS to require its sources to document their allegations that the milirary are regular.ly and routinely conducting mock intercept operations on cowmcrcial and other civil aircraft. To repeat these charges on television before an audience of millions, without anything but hearsay evidence, \'1ouldbe a disservice to the traveling public and inconsistent \Vith CBS' reputation for responsible journalism. !" Sincerely, I' (SIgned) James E. Dow 1- James E. DO\~ Acting Administrator 25 • President John F. Leyden Executive Vice President PROFESSIONALAIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERSORGANIZATION Robert E. Pol; SUITE 201-A/1568 WIUINGHAM DR., ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30337 (404) 767-0680 AfIlliated with M.E.B.A. (AFl-C10) BECE August 21, 1975 tie 2 '975 eATCO Mr. stanley A. Gordon Secretary /Treasurer PATCO Suite 706 2100M street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20037 Dear stan: At my recently conducted seminar several facilities in my region indicated they they do not have their PATCO Charter; this is probably due to the many changes on facility reps at some of these Locals. I have promised them that I would get duplicates made up for them, on the condition that they will have them appropriately framed and hungin the facility. The names of the locals needing Charter Certificates are: /V"')2 / V-- Mobile #164- (,,c- f v-/ r' v cJ,~ Gulfport #124- /US Jackson #126- v 1<:'- OpaLocka #134_ Thank you for your assistance. Fraternally,v~ DAVIDE. SIEGEL Regional Vice President OCT 2 IJS President John F. Leyden Executive Vice President PROFESSIONAL AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERSORGANIZATION c1'~ Robert E. Pol; SUITE 201-A/1568 WILLINGHAM DR., ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30337 (404) 767-0680 AfIlliated with M.E.B.A. (AFl·etO) ~~ September 30, 1975 Ms Diane Smith PATCO Suite 706 2100 M Street, N.W. Washington, D. C. 20037 Dear Diane: I am enclosing Charter Packages for three facilities in our region, and I hope you will find everything in order. The facilities are: #123 Hickory Tower #180 Greenville Municipal #194 Craig Tower Charlie Brown County Airport has finally returned the last portion of their Charter package and we are enclosing it as well.