106TH CONGRESS } {DOCUMENT 1st Session SENATE 106-3 IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON THE EVIDENTIARY RECORD PURSUANT TO S. RES. 16 VOLUME XI Transcript of December 10, 1998 presentations by David Schippers and Abbe Lowell, Hearing Ser. No. 19 Printed at the direction of Gary Sisco, Secretary of the Senate, pursuant to S. Res. 16, 106th Cong., 1st Sess. (1999) JANUARY 8, 1999.-Ordered to be printed 105th Congress }{ Ser. No. 19 2d Session I COMMITTEE PRINT IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY: WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESENTATIONS BY INVESTIGATIVE COUNSEL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY PURSUANT TO H. RES. 581: PRESENTATIONS BY INVESTIGATIVE COUNSEL COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS HENR J. HYDE, Chairman DECEMBER 10, 1998 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON : 1998 53-450 For sale by te US. Govemnnnt Printing Offie Superinwendent of Documents, Mail Stop: SSOP, Washington, DC 20402-9328 ISBN 0-16-057966-X COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY HENRY J. HYDE, Illinois, Chairman F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR., JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan Wisconsin BARNEY FRANK, Massachusetts BILL McCOLLUM, Florida CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York GEORGE W. GEKAS, Pennsylvania HOWARD L. BERMAN, California HOWARD COBLE, North Carolina RICK BOUCHER, Virginia LAMAR SMITH, Texas JERROLD NADLER, New York ELTON GALLEGLY, California ROBERT C. SCOTT, Virginia CHARLES T. CANADY, Florida MELVIN L. WATT, North Carolina BOB INGLIS, South Carolina ZOE LOFGREN, California BOB GOODLATTE, Virginia SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas STEPHEN E. BUYER, Indiana MAXINE WATERS, California ED BRYANT, Tennessee MARTIN T. MEEHAN, Massachusetts STEVE CHABOT, Ohio WILLIAM D. DELAHUNT, Massachusetts BOB BARR, Georgia ROBERT WEXLER, Florida WILLIAM L. JENKINS, Tennessee STEVEN R. ROTHMAN, New Jersey ASA HUTCHINSON, Arkansas THOMAS BARRETT, Wisconsin EDWARD A. PEASE, Indiana CHRISTOPHER B. CANNON, Utah JAMES E. ROGAN, California LINDSEY 0. GRAHAM, South Carolina MARY BONO, California MAJORITY STAFF THOMAS E. MOONEy, SR., Chief of Staff-General Counsel JON W. DUDAs, Deputy General Counsel-Staff Director DIANA L. SCHACHT, Deputy Staff Director-ChiefCounsel DANIEL M. FREEMAN, Parliamentarian-Counsel PAUL J. McNULTY, Director of Communications-Chief Counsel JOSEPH H. GIBSON, Chief Counsel RICK FILKINS, Counsel SHARE M. FREEMAN, Counsel PETER J. LEVINSON, Counsel JOHN F. MAUtrz, IV, Counsel WILLIAM E. MOSCHELLA, Counsel STEPHEN PINKOs, Counsel GEORGE M. FISHMAN, Chief Counsel DAVID P. SCHIPPERS, Chief Investigative MITCH GLAZIER, Chief Counsel Counsel JOHN HK LADD, Chief Counsel RAYMOND V. SmirrANKA, Chief Counsel SUSAN BoGArr, Investigative Counsel LAURA ANN BAxTER, Counsel ROBERT S. HOOVER, Counsel DANIEL J. BRYAr, Counsel JOHN C. KocoRAs, Counsel CATHLEEN A. CLEAVER, Counsel BERLE S. Lrr'mANN, Investigator VINCE GARPLOCK, Counsel STEPHEN P. LYNCH, Professional Staff JAMES W. HARPER, Counsel Member SUSAN JENSEN-CONKLIN, Counsel CHARLES F. MARINO, Counsel DEBRA Y LAmAN, Counsel JEFFREY J. PAvLETIC, Investigative Counsel BIAINE S. MEzR-rr, Counsel THOMAS M. SCHIPPERS, Investigative Counsel NICOLE R NASON, Counsel ALBERT F. TRACY, Investigator GLENN R. ScHImrr, Counsel PETER J. WACKS, Investigator Jim Y. WILON, Counsel DIANA L. WOZNICKI, Investigator MINOR17Y STAFF JuLIAN EPSTEIN, Minority Chief Counsel-Staff Director PERRY H. APELBAUM, Minority General ABBE D. LOWELL, Minority Chief Investigative Counsel Counsel DAVID G. LACHMANN, Counsel SAMPAK P. GARG, Investigative Counsel CYNTHIA A. R. MARTIN, Counsel STEVEN F. REICH, Investigative Counsel HENRY MONIZ, Counsel DEBORAH L. RHODE, Investigative Counsel STEPHANIE J. PETERS, Counsel KEVIN M. SIMPSON, Investigative Counsel SAMARA T. RYDER, Counsel LIS W. WIEHL, Investigative Counsel BRIAN P. WOOLFOLK, Counsel CONTENTS COMMITTEE PRINT December 10, 1998 .............................................. OPENING STATEMENT Hyde, Hon. Henry J., a Representative in Congress from the State of Illinois, and Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary ............................................... STATEMENTS Lowell, Abbe, Minority Chief Investigative Counsel ............................................ Schippers, David, Chief Investigative Counsel ..................................................... PREPARED STATEMENTS Lowell, Abbe, Minority Chief Investigative Counsel ............................................ Schippers, David, Chief Investigative Counsel ..................................................... APPENDIX Appendices to the Presentation by David P. Schippers, Chief Investigative Appendix A--Charts....................................... A- The President's Contacts Alone With Lewin ky...................... B. The Presidents Telephone Contacts With Lewinsky ........................ C. Lewinsky's Gifts to the President ....................................................... D. The President's Gifts to Lewinsky ...................................................... E. 12/5/97 Facsimile Transmission of Witness List in Jones v. Clin- ton .............................................................................................. F. The December 19, 1997 Subpoena to Lewinsky in Jones v. Clinton G. December 19, 1997 Activities Following Lewinsky's Receipt of Subpoena ................................................................................................ H. The President's December 23, 1997 Response to Interrogatory N o. 10 in Jones v. Clinton ..................................................................... I. The President's December 23, 1997 Response to Interrogatory No. 11 in Jones v. Clinton ............................................................................ J. December 28, 1997, The President's Final Meeting With Lewinsky and Concealm ent of Gifts ...................................................................... K Currie's Cell Phone Records for 12/28/97 ........................................... L. The President's Statements About Concealing Gifts ......................... M. Lewinsky's Draft Affidavit .................................................................. N. Lewinsky Final Affidavit dated January 7, 1998 Paragraph 8, Jones v. Clinton .................................................................................... 0. Filing Lewinsky's Affidavit and Motion to Quash (1/14/98-1/17/ 98) .................................................................................................. P. Mission Accomplished: Lewinsky Signs Her Affidavit and Is Hired By Revlon in New York (1/5/98-1/19/98) ............................................. Q. The President's Involvement With Lewinsky's Job Search .............. R. Jordan's Testimony About His Pre-Witness List Job Search Ef- forts ....................................................................................................... S. Activity Following The President's Deposition (1/17/98-1/19/98) ..... T. The President's Statements to Currie 1/18/98 .................................... U. The President's Denial of Sexual Relations ....................................... Page the Presentation by David P. Schippers, Chief Investigative AppendicesCounsel-Continued to Appendix A-Charts-Continued V. The President's 1/21/98 Denial of Sexual Relations to Blumenthal, Podesta and Morris ................................................................................ 182 W. The White House 1/24/98 "Talking Points". ...................................... 184 X. The President's Claims That He Was Truthful With Aides .............. 185 Y. The Three Options of a Grand Jury Witness ..................................... 186 Z. The President's Grand Jury "Statement" . .......................................... 187 Appendix B- Exhibits ...................................................................................... 188 Telephone records: 1. Summary Chart, 12/19/97 ............................................................. 188 2. Currie cell phone records, 12/28/97 .............................................. 190 3. Summary chart, 1/6/98 .................................................................. 192 4. Summary chart, 1/7/98 .................................................................. 193 5. Summary chart, 1/15/98-1/16/98 .................................................. 194 6. Summary chart, 1/17/98 ................................................................ 196 7. Summary chart, 1/18/98 ................................................................ 197 8. Summary chart, 1/19/98 ................................................................ 199 Court documents: 9. Jones v. Clinton, January 29, 1998 District Court Order re- garding discovery ........................................................ 202 10. President Clinton's Answer to First Amended Complaint, Jones v. Clinton .............................................................................. 206 11. In re: Sealed Case, Nos. 98-3053 & 3059, U.S. Court of Appeals, District of Columbia ........................................................ 223 12. Jane Doe #6 (Lewinsky) Affidavit filed In Jones v. Clinton ..... 234 13. "Sexual Relations" definition ...................................................... 237 Miscellaneous: 14. 1118/98 Drudge Report ................................................................. 238 15. Jones' attorneys fax cover sheet of witness list to Bennett ...... 240 16. White House "Talking Points," January 24, 1998 ..................... 242 17. LA Times 1/25/98 Article regarding White House "Talking Points"