EXAMINING ON-GOING CHALLENGES AT THE U.S. SECRET SERVICE AND THEIR GOVERNMENT- WIDE IMPLICATIONS JOINT HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT EFFICIENCY OF THE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON REGULATORY AFFAIRS AND FEDERAL MANAGEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED FOURTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION NOVEMBER 17, 2015 Serial No. 114–43 Printed for the use of the Committee on Homeland Security Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/ U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 99–749 PDF WASHINGTON : 2016 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Publishing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 HOUSE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas, Chairman LAMAR SMITH, Texas BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi PETER T. KING, New York LORETTA SANCHEZ, California MIKE ROGERS, Alabama SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas CANDICE S. MILLER, Michigan, Vice Chair JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina BRIAN HIGGINS, New York TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana LOU BARLETTA, Pennsylvania WILLIAM R. KEATING, Massachusetts SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey CURT CLAWSON, Florida FILEMON VELA, Texas JOHN KATKO, New York BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN, New Jersey WILL HURD, Texas KATHLEEN M. RICE, New York EARL L. ‘‘BUDDY’’ CARTER, Georgia NORMA J. TORRES, California MARK WALKER, North Carolina BARRY LOUDERMILK, Georgia MARTHA MCSALLY, Arizona JOHN RATCLIFFE, Texas DANIEL M. DONOVAN, JR., New York BRENDAN P. SHIELDS, Staff Director JOAN V. O’HARA, General Counsel MICHAEL S. TWINCHEK, Chief Clerk I. LANIER AVANT, Minority Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT EFFICIENCY SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania, Chairman JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN, New Jersey CURT CLAWSON, Florida CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana EARL L. ‘‘BUDDY’’ CARTER, Georgia NORMA J. TORRES, California BARRY LOUDERMILK, Georgia BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi (ex officio) MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas (ex officio) RYAN CONSAUL, Subcommittee Staff Director DENNIS TERRY, Subcommittee Clerk CEDRIC C. HAYNES, Minority Subcommittee Staff Director (II) SENATE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS RON JOHNSON, Wisconsin, Chairman JOHN MCCAIN, Arizona THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware ROB PORTMAN, Ohio CLAIRE MCCASKILL, Missouri RAND PAUL, Kentucky JON TESTER, Montana JAMES LANKFORD, Oklahoma TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin MICHAEL B. ENZI, Wyoming HEIDI HEITKAMP, North Dakota KELLY AYOTTE, New Hampshire CORY A. BOOKER, New Jersey JONI ERNST, Iowa GARY C. PETERS, Michigan BEN SASSE, Nebraska KEITH B. ASHDOWN, Staff Director GABRIELLE A. BATKIN, Minority Staff Director JOHN P. KILVINGTON, Minority Deputy Staff Director LAURA W. KILBRIDE, Chief Clerk BENJAMIN C. GRAZDA, Hearing Clerk SUBCOMMITTEE ON REGULATORY AFFAIRS AND FEDERAL MANAGEMENT JAMES LANKFORD, Oklahoma, Chairman JOHN MCCAIN, Arizona HEIDI HEITKAMP, North Dakota ROB PORTMAN, Ohio JON TESTER, Montana MICHAEL B. ENZI, Wyoming CORY A. BOOKER, New Jersey JONI ERNST, Iowa GARY C. PETERS, Michigan BEN SASSE, Nebraska JOHN CUADERESS, Staff Director ERIC BURSCH, Minority Staff Director RACHEL NITSCHE, Chief Clerk (III) C O N T E N T S Page STATEMENTS The Honorable Scott Perry, a Representative in Congress From the State of Pennsylvania, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Oversight and Manage- ment Efficiency, Committee on Homeland Security, U.S. House of Rep- resentatives: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 1 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 2 The Honorable James Lankford, a U.S. Senator From the State of Oklahoma, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Regulatory Affairs and Federal Manage- ment, Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, U.S. Senate: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 4 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 5 The Honorable Bonnie Watson Coleman, a Representative in Congress From the State of New Jersey, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Oversight and Management Efficiency, Committee on Homeland Security, U.S. House of Representatives: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 6 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 7 The Honorable Heidi Heitkamp, a U.S. Senator From the State of North Dakota, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Regulatory Affairs and Federal Management, Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, U.S. Senate ............................................................................................. 8 The Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, a Representative in Congress From the State of Mississippi, and Ranking Member, Committee on Homeland Security, U.S. House of Representatives ............................................................ 9 WITNESSES Mr. Joseph P. Clancy, Director, United States Secret Service, U.S. Depart- ment of Homeland Security: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 11 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 13 Mr. John Roth, Inspector General, Office of Inspector General, U.S. Depart- ment of Homeland Security: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 21 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 23 Mr. Joel C. Willemssen, Managing Director, Information Technology Issues, U.S. Government Accountability Office: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 28 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 30 APPENDIX Questions From Chairman Scott Perry for Joseph P. Clancy .............................. 65 Questions From Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson for Joseph P. Clancy . 68 Questions From Chairman Ron Johnson for Joseph P. Clancy ........................... 74 Questions From Chairman James Lankford for Joseph P. Clancy ..................... 74 Questions From Chairman Scott Perry for John Roth ......................................... 76 Questions From Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson for John Roth ............. 77 Questions From Chairman James Lankford for John Roth ................................. 79 Question From Chairman Ron Johnson for John Roth ........................................ 80 (V) VI Page Question From Chairman Scott Perry for Joel C. Willemssen ............................ 81 Questions From Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson for Joel C. Willemssen ............................................................................................................ 81 Questions From Chairman James Lankford for Joel C. Willemssen .................. 83 EXAMINING ON-GOING CHALLENGES AT THE U.S. SECRET SERVICE AND THEIR GOVERN- MENT-WIDE IMPLICATIONS Tuesday, November 17, 2015 U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY, SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT EFFICIENCY, AND U.S. SENATE, COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS, SUBCOMMITTEE ON REGULATORY AFFAIRS AND FEDERAL MANAGEMENT, Washington, DC. The subcommittees met, pursuant to call, at 10:01 a.m., in Room 210, HVC, Hon. Scott Perry [Chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, Subcommittee on Oversight and Management Efficiency] presiding. Present from the Subcommittee on Oversight and Management Efficiency: Representatives Perry, Watson Coleman, Thompson, Duncan, Clawson, Torres, Carter, and Loudermilk. Present from the Subcommittee on Regulatory Affairs and Fed- eral Management: Senators Lankford, Heitkamp, Johnson, and Peters. Mr. PERRY. The House Committee on Homeland Security, Sub- committee on Oversight and Management Efficiency and the Sen- ate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Subcommittee on Regulatory Affairs and Federal Management will come to order. The purpose of this hearing is to examine failures at the U.S. Se- cret Service and their implications Government-wide. The Chair recognizes himself for an opening statement. In September, the DHS Office of Inspector General, the OIG, re- leased a report on its 4-month-long investigation into improper ac- cess and distribution of information within the Secret Service. The findings were alarming. Wide-spread violations of the Privacy Act and an agency policy occurred by Secret Service employees who accessed and distributed information on a Member of Congress’ past employment application and senior management did nothing immediately to stop it. Inspector General John Roth stated that the episode was deeply disturbing. In addition, Director Clancy announced he had a dif- ferent account of what he initially told OIG. Investigators subse- (1) 2 quently had to re-interview Director Clancy and issue an adden- dum to the report. This incident