Eightb Series, Vol. VIII No. 14 Friday, August 9, 198~ Sravana i8~-1907·- (Saka') LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version) l~hird Session (Eighth Lok Sabha) (VDI. VIII contains Nos. 1110 20) LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI P,ic, : &. 4.00 , '":,, :fOriIiDal sqU. pI'OOIIdlftll ..._ '.. B.... ' Venioa ud," :QdalIIl' HiDdi:p~ iacha4ed lD H... "enloe wJlhe '..... 'II ..~, ,ad _ the trIDIIadoIl·....,.l ' ' , " '" ' CONTENT8 No. 14, Friday, August 9, 1985/Sr.avana 18, 1907 ,(Saka) COLUMNS , , Oral Answers to Questions 1-31 .Starred Questions Nos. 263, 264, 266, 269 to 212. '274 and 275. , Written Answers to Questions : 3J-264 Starred Question's'Nos. 265, 267, 273 and 276'10;282 31-38 Unstarred Questions Nos. 2737 to 2739, 2741·to 28J7, 2839,to 2949 38-264 and 2942 to 2970" ' Homage to the Martyrs of Quit India Movement , 264-267 Papers Laid on the Table 267-271 Message from Rajya 'Sabha . 271 Estimates Committee 271-277 Eighth Report and Minutes' Calling Attention to a M'atter of Urgent Public Importance 277-302 Reported aJarming increase in population in the CO.lVltry, Shri Srihari Rao 277 Shrimati MOhsina Kidwai 277 ~ Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Rao 285 'Sh'ri C. Madhav Reddi 290 Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh 296 Shri S. M. Bhattarn 298 Business of the' House 302-310 Bill Introduced- Tobacco Board (Amendment) 'Bill 310 ~ Employment of Children (Amendment) Bill-coord. ,310-319 Mot jon to consider Shri A. Cllarles 310 r Shramati Krishna Sahi 313 Dr. T. Kalpana Devi 3)6 Shri Yogeshwar Prasad yogesh 318 1\ ~ ,The Sian t marked above the name of Ii Member indicates that the question was actuaUy'askcd'otrthe floor of the House by that Member. .... I (i) (iI) COLUMNS Committee on private Members' Bills and Resolutionl 319 Third Report Bills Introduced- (I) Constitution (Amendmenl) Bm 319-320 (Amendment of Article 94 and 197) by Prof. Nal'ain Chand Prashar (2) Constitution (Amendmeat) Bill 320 (In.erlion 0/ new Article 48B, etc.) by Shri K. Ramamurthy (3) Constitution (Amendment) Bill 320 (A.mendment of Article 314 etc.) by Shri K. Ramamurtby (4) Farmers and Agricultural Workers Benefit Fund 'Bitt by Shri K. Ramamurtby (5) Public Offices (Fixation of Public Holidays and Working House) 321 Bill by Shri K. Ramamurthy (6) Constitution (Amendment) Bill 32l--322 (Insertion of new Part X A) by Sbri Ananda Pa thak (7) Financing of EJections by the Sta·te Bill by 322 Prof. P. J. Kurien (8) Payment of Unemployment Allowance Bill by 322-323 Prof. P. J. Kurien (9) Transport Parcel Service Workers Welfare BiB by 323 Shri Ajoy Biswas Code of Criminal Procedure (Amendment) Bill-Contd. 323-367 (Amendment 0/ Sections J 25 and J 27) Motion to consider Shri Mool Chan~ Dap 323 Sbrimati Abida Ahmed 33.0 Shri Suresh Kurup 333 Shri Priya Ranjan Das M unsi 336 Shri Zainul Basher 347 Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee 35l Sbri Satyendra Narayan Sinha 355 Kumari Mamata Ban~rjee 361 Shri Ibrahim Sula.i.man Sait 365 Papers Laid on the Table 3'67-368 LOK SABHA DEBATES LOK SABHA (d) the steps being taken to prevent further cost overrun aod whether any restraint is being exercised by the Project authorities in incurring unnecessary Friday, August 9, 1985/Sravana 18, 1907 expenditure; (Saka) (e) if so, the details thereof; (f) whether this is going to affect the NALCO'S cost of production per tonne of The Lok Sabha met at Eleven 0/ alumina or the mental; and the Clock. (g) if so, by how much and how will ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS it be able to compete in the market? THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) to (g). A Statement is given below: [English] MR. SPEAKER: Question No. 263- Statement Sbri Pradhani. (a) The Revised Cost Estimate of NALCO, which is under consideration, is (Tram/ation] Rs. 2226 crores, as against its original cost of Ri. 1242 crores sanctioned in November, SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI : If you can 1980 based on the prices of first quarter of do with Pradhan, then ...... 1980. MR. SPEAKER: From where should (b) The schedule for the completion of I bring Pradhani ? the Project is as fo1lows : [English) Bauxite Mine November, 1985 *263. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIKt : Alumina-Phase I Septcmber, 1986 SHRI K. PRADHANI : Aluminium-Potline I December, 1986 Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND COAL be pleased to state: (c) The capital outlay for the Company is being financed partly from Euro dollar (a) whether National . Aluminium Joan/French Credit and the balance is being Company Limited's project cost has escalated met from budgetary resources of the by Rs. 1,000 crores; Government. The cumulative expenditure upto 1984-85 is Rs. 1129 crores and a pro- (b) whether during the current year vision of Rs. 412 crores has been made for NALCQ·S bauxite mine will have to become the year 1985.86. which is proposed to be operational and phase I of the eight lakh increased to Rs. 702 crores. tonnes capacity aluminium plant is expected to commence production by September, (d) and (e). The Revised Cost Estimates 1985; are based on the price level of 1st quarter of 1985 and 90% of the commitments have (c) if so, the budgetary support which already been made on firm price basis. In ·Government propose to live to NALCO by respect of balance commitments. strict raisin, the out)aYi control is beins exercised. 3 Oral An,-wer, AUGUST 9, 1985 Oru; A"swers 4 ( f ) Yes Sir. The increase in the Capital SHRI V ASANT SATHE: We are Cost has its impact on depreciation and nlready planning to have captive ·power interest charges. plants both in NALCO and in BALCO and (g) The cost of production of both t~ese power plants will have sufficient Alumina and Aluminium for NALCO will . capacity to 'meet the requirements of these largely depend on the prices of various input units. So, as far as captive power plants materials prevailing from time to time; but are concerned, there will be no shortage. NALCO will have the benefit of the latl!st PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, tecbnology. The selling price of aluminium I will ask a Supplementary in continuation b regulated under the Essential Commodities of my past Supplementary which is also Ac't. which en'iures a fair price to all 'PTO- related to the main question. ducers and at the same time protects the interests of the consumers. MR. SPEAKER: In context with the earlier one also. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK : Sir, it is learnt that all over the world depending PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Also upon its availahility and commercial viability in several parts. aluminium plants are getting scarcer and facing serious problems. Keeping this in MR. SPEAKER: In reference to the view, I would like to know whether any context! study is being made from time to time ahout (IlIlerruptions) the production cost and selling price both for alumina and aluminium. If so, what is PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, the observation? on One occasion I related this problem, I SHRI V AS ANT SATHE: Sir, it is a had put the question to the hon. Minister that manufacture of aluminium requires more fact that internationally the aluminium price power and manufacture of alumina requires varies between Rs. 12,000 pcr tonne and Rs. less power. The Muharashtra, in the back- 10,000 per tonne and in India we have a ward Konkan region ... rich deposit of bauxite from which we can make alumina and aluminium, but the basic DR. KR UPASINDHU BHO): This is constraint is power. Aluminium production not pertaining to it. is noted as power guzzler, So, unless we have enough power and at cheaper cost to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Let produce aluminiu:n, alu~niilium production him decide. You are not the Speaker. I in India in spite of having the best raw will support you next time. (lnterruptiolls). material. that is, bauxite, becomes costlier Sir. it is connected. He asked questions compared to international prices. In spite about two plants, he talked about the of this, we are working on various projects captive plants. It is related to that. This is like BALeO and the latest is NALCO , not a medical problem. project. where we intend to produce alumi- DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOT: Sir, if nium both for internal consumption and to allow him like this ... save on import of aluminium in the country. (Interrupti ona) SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNA1K ~ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE You Aluminium being a power intensive industry, are yet to become a Speaker. it was decided to go in for captive power (Illterruptlon,v) plant having five units each of 120 MY' capacity giving a total ins tailed capacity of PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: What 600 MW. But each of these units, it is I am asking the hon. Minister is, last time learnt. requires for every 10 months of when 1 said that in the backward Konkan operation two months of maintenance. r~gion of Maharashtra, the Bharat RougHly, in a year one units~s output is Aluminium project has remained pendin. lost. and their right grouse has been that the Keeping this in view, is there any pro- Maharashtrg Govemmmt has 'not been able posal for two more captive power plants to give us the ntceSsary electtit jklWer oacJt of 120 MW capacity ? required for the manufacture of alumiahim. SRA VANA. II, J907 (SAKA) Oral A,IIIW'fI 6 And ;there I had told him instead of go ng production of alumina. That is a separate for the manufacture of aluminium if you go thing ..• for the manufactur~ of alumina~ it would require less power.