AMTRAK NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE (116–41) HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON RAILROADS, PIPELINES, AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS OF THE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION NOVEMBER 13, 2019 Printed for the use of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure ( Available online at: https://www.govinfo.gov/committee/house-transportation?path=/ browsecommittee/chamber/house/committee/transportation U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 41–932 PDF WASHINGTON : 2020 VerDate Aug 31 2005 18:05 Oct 13, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 P:\HEARINGS\116\RR\11-13-~1\TRANSC~1\41932.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon, Chair ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, SAM GRAVES, Missouri District of Columbia DON YOUNG, Alaska EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas ERIC A. ‘‘RICK’’ CRAWFORD, Arkansas RICK LARSEN, Washington BOB GIBBS, Ohio GRACE F. NAPOLITANO, California DANIEL WEBSTER, Florida DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky STEVE COHEN, Tennessee MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania JOHN GARAMENDI, California RODNEY DAVIS, Illinois HENRY C. ‘‘HANK’’ JOHNSON, JR., Georgia ROB WOODALL, Georgia ANDRE´ CARSON, Indiana JOHN KATKO, New York DINA TITUS, Nevada BRIAN BABIN, Texas SEAN PATRICK MALONEY, New York GARRET GRAVES, Louisiana JARED HUFFMAN, California DAVID ROUZER, North Carolina JULIA BROWNLEY, California MIKE BOST, Illinois FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida RANDY K. WEBER, SR., Texas DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey DOUG LAMALFA, California ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California BRUCE WESTERMAN, Arkansas MARK DESAULNIER, California LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania STACEY E. PLASKETT, Virgin Islands PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts BRIAN J. MAST, Florida SALUD O. CARBAJAL, California, Vice Chair MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin ANTHONY G. BROWN, Maryland GARY J. PALMER, Alabama ADRIANO ESPAILLAT, New York BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania TOM MALINOWSKI, New Jersey JENNIFFER GONZA´ LEZ-COLO´ N, GREG STANTON, Arizona Puerto Rico DEBBIE MUCARSEL-POWELL, Florida TROY BALDERSON, Ohio LIZZIE FLETCHER, Texas ROSS SPANO, Florida COLIN Z. ALLRED, Texas PETE STAUBER, Minnesota SHARICE DAVIDS, Kansas CAROL D. MILLER, West Virginia ABBY FINKENAUER, Iowa GREG PENCE, Indiana JESU´ S G. ‘‘CHUY’’ GARCI´A, Illinois ANTONIO DELGADO, New York CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota HARLEY ROUDA, California VACANCY (ii) VerDate Aug 31 2005 18:05 Oct 13, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5905 Sfmt 5905 P:\HEARINGS\116\RR\11-13-~1\TRANSC~1\41932.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER SUBCOMMITTEE ON RAILROADS, PIPELINES, AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS DANIEL LIPINSKI, Illinois, Chair ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey ERIC A. ‘‘RICK’’ CRAWFORD, Arkansas DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania LIZZIE FLETCHER, Texas RODNEY DAVIS, Illinois ANDRE´ CARSON, Indiana BRIAN BABIN, Texas FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida MIKE BOST, Illinois MARK DESAULNIER, California RANDY K. WEBER, SR., Texas STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts DOUG LAMALFA, California TOM MALINOWSKI, New Jersey LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania GRACE F. NAPOLITANO, California PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan STEVE COHEN, Tennessee BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania JESU´ S G. ‘‘CHUY’’ GARCI´A, Illinois TROY BALDERSON, Ohio ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, ROSS SPANO, Florida District of Columbia PETE STAUBER, Minnesota EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, Texas GREG PENCE, Indiana ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California SAM GRAVES, Missouri (Ex Officio) COLIN Z. ALLRED, Texas, Vice Chair ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota VACANCY PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon (Ex Officio) (iii) VerDate Aug 31 2005 18:05 Oct 13, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5905 Sfmt 5905 P:\HEARINGS\116\RR\11-13-~1\TRANSC~1\41932.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER VerDate Aug 31 2005 18:05 Oct 13, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5905 Sfmt 5905 P:\HEARINGS\116\RR\11-13-~1\TRANSC~1\41932.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER CONTENTS Page Summary of Subject Matter .................................................................................... vii STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE Hon. Daniel Lipinski, a Representative in Congress from the State of Illinois, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Railroads, Pipelines, and Hazardous Ma- terials: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 1 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 3 Hon. Eric A. ‘‘Rick’’ Crawford, a Representative in Congress from the State of Arkansas, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Railroads, Pipelines, and Hazardous Materials: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 3 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 4 Hon. Peter A. DeFazio, a Representative in Congress from the State of Or- egon, and Chairman, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure: Opening statement ........................................................................................... 4 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 6 Hon. Sam Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of Missouri, and Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, prepared statement .............................................................................................. 99 Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas, prepared statement .............................................................................. 99 WITNESSES Richard Anderson, President and Chief Executive Officer, National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak): Oral statement .................................................................................................. 8 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 10 Hon. Nancy Nathanson, State Representative, Thirteenth District, Oregon State Legislature: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 17 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 19 Greg Regan, Secretary-Treasurer, Transportation Trades Department, AFL– CIO: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 23 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 24 Jack Dinsdale, National Vice President, Transportation Communications Union (TCU/IAM): Oral statement .................................................................................................. 28 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 30 Jim Mathews, President and Chief Executive Officer, Rail Passengers Asso- ciation: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 44 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 46 Bob Guy, Illinois State Legislative Director, International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers–Transportation Divi- sion: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 63 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 66 Stacey Mortensen, Executive Director, San Joaquin Joint Powers Authority: Oral statement .................................................................................................. 68 Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 69 (v) VerDate Aug 31 2005 18:05 Oct 13, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5905 Sfmt 5905 P:\HEARINGS\116\RR\11-13-~1\TRANSC~1\41932.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER vi Page SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD Statement of the Transport Workers Union of America, AFL–CIO, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Daniel Lipinski .............................................................. 72 Letter of November 12, 2019, from Constituents of Hon. Peter A. DeFazio ....... 100 Statement of Ian Jefferies, President and Chief Executive Officer, Association of American Railroads ......................................................................................... 101 Statement of the State-Amtrak Intercity Passenger Rail Committee ................. 104 APPENDIX Questions to Richard Anderson, President and Chief Executive Officer, Na- tional Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak), from: Hon. Peter A. DeFazio .......................................................................... 109, 114–117 Hon. Peter A. DeFazio on behalf of Hon. Anthony G. Brown ....................... 110 Hon. Grace F. Napolitano ................................................................................ 111 Hon. Steve Cohen.................................................................................. 112, 118–128 VerDate Aug 31 2005 18:05 Oct 13, 2020 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5905 Sfmt 5905 P:\HEARINGS\116\RR\11-13-~1\TRANSC~1\41932.TXT JEAN TRANSPC154 with DISTILLER NOVEMBER 8, 2019 SUMMARY OF SUBJECT MATTER TO: Members,