If you have issues viewing or accessing this file contact us at NCJRS.gov. '.'~-"'" , eJ/;z1 ~RMOR-PIERCING ~MlYIUNiTION HEARING BEFORE THE SUBOOMMITTEE ON ORIMINAL LAW OF THE OOMMITTEE ON THE JUDIOIARY UNITED STATES SENATE NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON s. 555 . A BILL TO STOP THE PROLIFERATION OF "COP-KILLER" BULLETS MARCH 7, 1984 Serial No. J-98-101 e use of the Committee on the Judiciary \ .. U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASliINGTON : 1985 ---------"""'----"'----------"'--+--~""'-~ ,------~-----~--~ ... CONTENTS OPENING STATEMENTS ," Page Laxalt, Hon. Paul, a U.s. Senator from the State of Nevada chairman Subcommittee on Criminal Law .......................................................... :.................... : 1 K~nnedy, Hon. Edward M., a U.S. Senator from the State of Massachusetts .... 17 Blden, Hon. Joseph R., a U.S. Senator from the State of Delaware ..................... 32 PROPOSED LEGISLATION COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY S. 555, a bill to stop the proliferation of "cop-killer" bullets ................................. 14 STROM THURMOND, South Carolina, Chairman CHARLES MeC. MATHIAS, JR., Maryland JOSEPH R. BIDEN, JR., Delaware CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES PAUL LAXALT, Nevada EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts Moynihan, Hon. Daniel Patrick, a U.S. Senator from the State of New York' ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah ROBERT C. BYRD, West Virginia and Hon. Mario Biaggi, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ne~ ROBERT DOLE, Kansas HOWARD M. METZENB~UM, Ohio york ............................................................................................................................... 2 ALAN K. SIMPSON, Wyoming DENNIS DECONCINI, Arlzona Stephens, Jay B., Deputy Associate Attorney General, Department of Justice' JOHN P. EAST, North Carolina PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont and Robert E. Powis, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Enforcement, CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa MAX BAUCUS, Montana Depart~ men.t of ~he Treasury.................................................................................................. JEREMIAH DENTON, Alabama HOWELL HEFLIN, Alabama 35 Janelh, RIchard, ~assau County, NY, Police De~artmellt; John Butler, ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania Newark, DE, PolIce Department; and Kane Robmson, Des Moines IA VINTON DEVANE LIDE, Chief Counsel and Staff Director .Police Department ........ :........ :.............................. " ............................................. :....... : 67 DEBORAH K. OWEN, General Counsel RIcher, Robert A., executIve dIrector, Californi';1 Wildlife Federation' Warren DEBORAH G. BERNSTEIN, Chief Clerk Cassi~y, .execu~ive director, Institute for Legislative Action, Natio'nal Rifle MARK H. GITENSTEIN, Minority Chief Counsel AssocIatIOn; GIlbert Gallegos, Fraternal Order of Police' and Phil Caruso president, New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Associ~tion ........................ : 91 SUBCOMMITI'EE ON CRIMINAL LAW ALPHABETICAL LISTING AND MATERIALS SUBMITTED PAUL LAXALT, Nevada, Chairman Biaggi, Hon. Mario: STROM THURMOND, South Carolina JOSEPH R. BIDEN, JR., Delaware ~estimony ................................................................................................................. 19 repared stat~ment ................................................................................................ 25 ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania MAX BAUCUS, Montana Butler, Johp: TestImony ................................................................................................ 75 ROBERT DOLE, Kansas Caruso, PhIl: JOHN F. NASH, Jr., Chief Counsel and Staff Director ~estimony ................................................................................................................. 112 WILLIAM MILLER, General Counsel repared statement ..................................................................................... :......... 115 CassidYI WI:!-rren: Testimony ........................................................................................ :. 98 (II) Galli~~ti~~~;~.~: .............................................. ~J .. C.-..I .. P.! ..e .................: ......... 103 P eceipts of ammunition purchased ............................................................. , ....... .. 105 ~ep~red statement ................................................................. " ............................. 110 U.S. peoartment of Justice J anelh, RIchard: N~ti'o'nai Institute of Justice ~~:timony .:.................................................. MA¥ .... 17...... 1~.~~ .................. :........ 67 . pared statem~nt ........................................................................................ :........ 70 duced exactly as received from the " I • Moymhan, Hon. Damel PatrIck: This document has bee~ ~epro . Points of view or opinions stated ~ 2 person or organization ongtnatln~ It. thors and do not necessarily ~~:~::;.~d~t~t~~~~·t·::::::::::::::::::::::::::~':G:ta:lJ:t:jI1~JQ·NrS····· 5 in this document are tho~~ of t e ~u'es of the National Institute of .. :.. ·.. ·.. represent the official position or po ICI ~" Pow~~Iiob~~t ~~:5 ....................................... :..................................... :... :: .. ::::::::::::::::~::::::: 14 " .. Justice. 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ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS AND VJ:EWS WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7, 1984 119 Testimony of Representative '~kr::!iv~' ~ir~~~~: .. i~t~~~~ti~~·~i ..A~~~~i~ti~~ U.S. SENATE, Statement of No~man Dal'Wl , ........................................ :............. :......... .. 120 COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, of Chiefs of PolIce .............. ·: ........ ·.... ·........ · t've dl'rector and actmg chaIrman, . d J Stemberg execu I Statement b y DaYI. sible Firearms Policy .......................................... .. 123 SUBCOMMIT'rEE ON CRIMINAL LAW, National CouncIl for a ~es~B th rhood of police Officers ............................ .. 124 Washington, DC. Statement of the. In~bago~ald E~ F~aher, legislative director, Handgun Con- 128 The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:35 a.m., in room Statement submltte yo .................................................................... .. 226, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Paul Laxalt (chairman of t IIc ............................ A' 132 St~~r'n:nt bY·th~·wildiifs~te~la~\~:J~~~ffpuhli~~~i~~~· ··~~d··p~bii·~· ··~ff~;~: the subcommittee presiding. State~ent of JO~1ll M. tli R" ht to Keep and Bear Arms ........ :..................... :.. 134 Present: Senators Biden and Kennedy. CitIzens CommIttee for e Ig M d' Hype? by Douglas ZImmer, publIc Staff present: John F. Nash, Jr., chief counsel and staff director, KTW Bullets: Deadly Controverr or t Fo~~datio~ June 14 1983 ..................... .. 135 affairs director, Sec~md AAmen .mt~n f police O;ganizati~ns (NAPO) ............ 141 Bill Miller, general counsel, Beverly McKittrick, counsel, and Fred­ Testimony of the NatIOnal ssoCdla lon?d t the National Coalition To Ban erick D. Nelson, counsel. Testlmony. 0 f M'IC h a el K., Bear presl en , ...................................... .. 142 Handguns.························ .. ·it····f~·~·;··M~tth~·.;.;··B:··C~ff~y, executive director, OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. PAUL LAXALT, A U.S. SENATOR Letter to Hon. Paul Laxa, . M h 6 1984 ..................................... 144 FROM THE STATE OF NEVADA, CHAIRMAN, SUBCOMMITTEE ON National Association of C0!-lnt~es, Ball t ~dop~d .. ~t .. NACo's 48th Annual Resolution on the Armor-Plercmg u e , .................................... .. 145 CRIMINAL LAW Conference, July 19, 1983 ........: .............. c;i~i~~i .. L~.;.; .. from Dennis C. West- Senator LAXALT. The subcommittee will be in order. Letter to Bi1~ Miller, SU~~i~~ttp~lf:e Burial and Protective Association, On behalf of the Subcommittee on Criminal Law, I welcome all over, presldent, Des ........................ .. .................................... .. 146 March 20, 1984 .................. " ........................ .. of you to this hearing on armor-piercing ammunition and in par­ ticular on the legislation introduced by Senator Moynihan, S. 555. Identical legislation was introduced in the House last year by Con­ gressman Biaggi, who is also with us today. I want to welcome both of these distinguished Members of