Hudson River Valley Institute Walkway Over the Hudson Oral Histories David Rocco [Audio checks] Interviewer: Alright, would you like to state your name for us? Rocco: David Rocco. Interviewer: David Rocco, and can you tell us where you grew up? Rocco: I grew up in southern Westchester County—Yonkers—for about ten, twelve years and then moved to Mount Vernon where I finished up high school. Interviewer: What is your job, your occupation? Rocco: I started out in the meat business with my father, who was in the meat business since he was like fourteen years old, but then I had to get away from the business for health reasons and I got into carpentry. So I worked for New York City housing authority for almost eighteen years and then I retired seven years ago due to, well I injured my knee, so they put me on permanent disability. Interviewer: Alright, so how long have you lived in the Hudson River Valley? Rocco: I’m fifty-one years old so as long as I’ve been alive. Interviewer: What’s your overall impression of living in the Hudson Valley, what keeps you going and staying here? Rocco: It has everything, you know it’s such a beautiful area, lakes, rivers, of course the Hudson River. I’ve driven around the country a few times, and I couldn’t think of a better place to live and die than here. Interviewer: And so let me ask you a couple questions relating to the bridge itself. What role do you feel the bridge is playing within the community and the region? Rocco: As of right now or what it could be? Interviewer: As of right now. Rocco: As of right now, it’s still a pipe dream for a lot of people. This has been going on since 1992, this is now 2008, there was a lot of doubters out there because like I’m on the community outreach committee and I got people that come up to me and “you guys are never going to get it done” and I say, first of all, it’s not our bridge it’s your bridge. Secondly, you know, we need more help and right now it looks like we’re on our way so we have to make them believe this. 1 of 14 Hudson River Valley Institute Walkway Over the Hudson Oral Histories David Rocco Interviewer: What do you think is the biggest challenge in getting the bridge going, getting the bridge completed as a walkway? Rocco: Well the usual answer to that one is money. But also the cooperation between the many agencies that are involved, this is a major undertaking and include the fact that we’re on a timeline because we want to get it open by September 2009, so that’s a lot to ask for. Interviewer: How long have you been involved in Walkway over the Hudson? Rocco: I met Bill Sepe who was the original chair of the organization in November 2001. Interviewer: And what first inspired you to get involved in it? Rocco: Happened to be the Dutchess County office building because I lived in Dutchess County for about eighteen months. And I was renewing my passport and after I came down from the office, there was this information stand of things to do in Dutchess. And I saw the sign on one of the brochures, Walkway over the Hudson, I said, “God, what a beautiful sound to it, Rail Trail over the Hudson River”. And I said, “I know all the rail trails in this area, how’d I miss this one?” So I called the phone number up at the bottom of it, figured I’d get an answering machine, and there’s a voice—Bill Sepe—and I started asking him a lot of questions, well if you’re so serious about it come up this Saturday to Pine Points firehouse, we’re having a fundraiser and I’m selling books and shirts, and from that moment on I was hooked. Interviewer: Have you ever been up to do a view up there? Rocco: Was I ever up on the bridge? Interviewer: Well up on, around the bridge to get views from around there? Rocco: No. Interviewer 2: No, ok [another interviewer jumps in] I’m just going to interrupt. David if you could rephrase each question that’s asked, that way when it goes down on tape, as we go to edit these together, I know what you’re referring to. So like the last question we asked, if you could like rephrase it, how I got involved with Walkway is…and then your answer. And if you could do that for each one, then that way we know exactly what you’re making reference to at any point during the interview. Rocco: Sure. Interviewer 2: That’d be great, thank you. Rocco: So start from the top? 2 of 14 Hudson River Valley Institute Walkway Over the Hudson Oral Histories David Rocco Interviewer 2: No keep going, if you want to go back to some of the questions at the beginning, the last thing, maybe you just go back to the first couple of questions and then re-do them and then we’re good. [first interviewer jumps back in] Ok so I’ll go back to a couple of questions then. What do you feel is one of the best features of the Hudson Valley? Rocco: I’m going to be biased, I mean once we get this bridge open I think the bridge is going to be a world wide tourist attraction, I mean think about it, when it opened up in 1888 it was the world’s longest bridge. It will be a great asset to the Hudson Valley region because when we hopefully get it open by 2009 or thereafter, it’ll be the world’s longest pedestrian dedicated bridge. Interviewer: And can you tell me what impact you think the bridge is going to make in the Hudson Valley, perhaps from an economic standpoint? Rocco: The impact I believe will definitely create jobs, create businesses, tax revenue. The tourism that will come up from both sides of the river from New Jersey, from New York City, I mean think about it, the train station is a block and a half on the waterfront, ideally if we ever get an elevator up from the waterfront to the bridge deck, it can’t be any easier than that to, even the elevator will be a tourist attraction. You know, two hundred and twenty feet high to get up to the bridge deck, it’ll just be a magnet for people to come up here. Interviewer: What sort of activities have Walkway over the Hudson been engaging in to raise public awareness? Rocco: Walkway’s been trying to, the last number of years, to gain public awareness through community outreach events, whether it’s the kid’s expo at the Poughkeepsie Civic Center, whether it’s the Arlington street fair, the Highland Rib festival, the Highland Chili festival in January, Beacon has about five events every year, Clearwater has their big festival every June—it’s a two, three day event which is a wonderful thing— wherever we go we feel we can reach a broader audience. Interviewer: How do you feel the bridge is, or the walkway across the Hudson can work with the Quadricentennial celebration to get this job done? Rocco: I think the bridge in regard to the Quadricentennial for 2009, can make a major impact to it because if you have a history of the 1909 celebration, which was just Hudson, Fulton, somebody was smart this time around and included Champlain, so you have Hudson, Fulton, Champlain. Back then you had Thomas Edison had the ability to light streetlights in New York City, the Wright Brothers were flying up and down the Hudson River, it was just a lot of wonderful things going on. There’s really not that many things that they can take advantage of this time around, so here you have a bridge that was built in the 19th century, and now we’re refurbishing it in the 21st century and it could last even 3 of 14 Hudson River Valley Institute Walkway Over the Hudson Oral Histories David Rocco beyond that. And so it’s like a length of tie into history, that you have to link up Hudson, Fulton, Champlain. Interviewer: What do you find most interesting about the bridge from a personal standpoint? Rocco: Obviously I find the size of the bridge just overwhelming. The length of it, the height from the river, the views, but what gets to me is that I do a public access T.V. show, so I had the ability to take a boat ride with the engineers when they were inspecting the piers last year, to film some of that vantage point. But to circle around the piers and to look at the work it was just to me the, the men that built the bridge, whether it was the engineers, or the workers, the carpenters, the iron workers, that I have just overwhelming respect for. Interviewer: In inspecting the bridge and getting a close look at it, what would you say your opinion is the current condition of the bridge? Rocco: Considering that this year’s 2008, the condition of the bridge is remarkable because it opened a hundred and twenty years ago. They actually started on the bridge, I believe, in 1873 on the piers.