This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL 1 NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH + + + + + ADVISORY BOARD ON RADIATION AND WORKER HEALTH + + + + + WORK GROUP ON IDAHO NATIONAL LABORATORY + + + + + TUESDAY JUNE 21, 2011 + + + + + The Work Group convened in the Frankfurt Room of the Cincinnati Airport Marriott, 2395 Progress Drive, Hebron, Kentucky, at 9:00 a.m., Phillip Schofield, Chairman, presiding. PRESENT: PHILLIP SCHOFIELD, Chairman JOSIE BEACH, Member JAMES M. MELIUS, Member GENEVIEVE S. ROESSLER, Member ALSO PRESENT: NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. TED KATZ, Designated Federal Official 2 PETE DARNELL, DCAS BRIAN GLECKLER, ORAU Team STU HINNEFELD, DCAS JODI JENKINS, ORAU Team JENNY LIN, HHS* JOHN MAURO, SC&A STEVE OSTROW, SC&A* MATTHEW SMITH, ORAU Team* JOHN STIVER, SC&A* TIM TAULBEE, DCAS *Participating via telephone NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. 3 C-O-N-T-E-N-T-S Roll Call 4 Airborne Releases Comment Numbers 1 and 2 (Reactor Discharges, Chem Plant, Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion Program) 8 Internal Dosimetry, Comments 4 through 10 64 External Dosimetry 190 Deliverables and Meeting Plans 322 NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. 1 P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S 4 2 CHAIRMAN SCHOFIELD: This is Phil 3 Schofield. This site covers approximately 190 4 square miles. It was started in 1949, it's 5 had 52 working reactors. They have covered 6 everything from fuel handling, reprocessing to 7 complete meltdown testing. 8 There's been 99 documented episodic 9 releases. There's been a number of incidents 10 of releases that actually were measured at the 11 perimeter. So it's a very large, complex site 12 with a lot of potential for internal exposures 13 as well as high levels of external exposures. 14 I guess we're ready to start on the 15 matrix, unless anybody else has any comments? 16 Okay, on the matrix, the first issue is 17 talking about the routine airborne releases. 18 And the finding was, "Routine 19 airborne releases: source terms provided 20 require improvement for use in determining the 21 worker intake from airborne releases at NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. 1 different INL facilities. 5 2 The data NIOSH uses do not take 3 into account the deficiencies in the 4 environmental monitoring equipment and their 5 locations. And in addition, NIOSH does not 6 assess the uncertainties associated with 7 mineralogical -- meteorological, excuse me, 8 dispersion model used for the INL site. 9 Most importantly the source terms 10 do not account for worker inhalation of 11 resuspended contaminated soils or materials 12 around the INL facilities." So now it's your 13 game, NIOSH. 14 DR. MAURO: Excuse me, this is John 15 Mauro. Just to set the stage a little bit 16 might be helpful. It's my understanding that 17 since we originally reviewed the INL Site 18 Profile, which I don't recall, it must have 19 been four years ago, perhaps -- 20 DR. OSTROW: This is Steve, it was 21 1996. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. 1 DR. MAURO: '96, okay. Five years6 2 ago. And, Steve, you probably know a little 3 bit more about it than I do. There has been, 4 subsequently, revisions. 5 MR. KATZ: 2006. 6 DR. MAURO: 2006, I lose decades 7 all the time. 8 (Laughter.) 9 DR. MAURO: And in light of that, I 10 guess it would be helpful to me and I'm sure 11 then everyone else, a little bit of what has 12 transpired since our original review. 13 There clearly were a number of 14 revisions to the Site Profile, dome of which 15 may have responded to many of our concerns, 16 some may have not. We, SC&A, are aware that, 17 now, Steve, you could help me out a bit. In 18 the matrix there is a column to the right of 19 the comments that has been filled out by 20 NIOSH. 21 And when I reviewed it over the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. 1 weekend, I said to myself, well, it appears7 2 that these are comments that weren't there 3 before, but they're there now and they reflect 4 the latest information that NIOSH has as a 5 result of the revisions to the Site Profile. 6 Would that be a correct characterization of 7 the matrix? 8 MR. DARNELL: Some of the answers 9 were in this matrix in 2006 when it started, 10 they've been updated and completed over the 11 time period. 12 DR. MAURO: That helps, yes. 13 MR. DARNELL: Yes, it is mostly new 14 information for the Work Group. 15 DR. MAURO: And when was the last 16 Site Profile revised? 17 MR. KATZ: April of 2011. 18 DR. MAURO: Okay, so it's 19 relatively recent. And was that a major 20 revision, several of the chapters or just the 21 one, you know? NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com This transcript of the Advisory Board on Radiation and Worker Health, Idaho National Laboratory (INL) Work Group, has been reviewed for concerns under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a) and personally identifiable information has been redacted as necessary. The transcript, however, has not been reviewed and certified by the Chair of the INL Work Group for accuracy at this time. The reader should be cautioned that this transcript is for information only and is subject to change. 1 MR.