WORLD-WIDE THREATS: KEEPING AMERICA SECURE IN THE NEW AGE OF TERROR HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FIFTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION NOVEMBER 30, 2017 Serial No. 115–41 Printed for the use of the Committee on Homeland Security Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.govinfo.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 29–474 PDF WASHINGTON : 2018 VerDate Mar 15 2010 21:37 May 31, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17FL1130\17FL1130.TXT HEATH Congress.#13 COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas, Chairman LAMAR SMITH, Texas BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi PETER T. KING, New York SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas MIKE ROGERS, Alabama JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island LOU BARLETTA, Pennsylvania CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania WILLIAM R. KEATING, Massachusetts JOHN KATKO, New York DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey WILL HURD, Texas FILEMON VELA, Texas MARTHA MCSALLY, Arizona BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN, New Jersey JOHN RATCLIFFE, Texas KATHLEEN M. RICE, New York DANIEL M. DONOVAN, JR., New York J. LUIS CORREA, California MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin VAL BUTLER DEMINGS, Florida CLAY HIGGINS, Louisiana NANETTE DIAZ BARRAGA´ N, California JOHN H. RUTHERFORD, Florida THOMAS A. GARRETT, JR., Virginia BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania RON ESTES, Kansas DON BACON, Nebraska BRENDAN P. SHIELDS, Staff Director STEVEN S. GIAIER, General Counsel MICHAEL S. TWINCHEK, Chief Clerk HOPE GOINS, Minority Staff Director (II) VerDate Mar 15 2010 21:37 May 31, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17FL1130\17FL1130.TXT HEATH C O N T E N T S Page STATEMENTS The Honorable Michael T. McCaul, a Representative in Congress From the State of Texas, and Chairman, Committee on Homeland Security: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 1 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 4 The Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, a Representative in Congress From the State of Mississippi, and Ranking Member, Committee on Homeland Security: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 6 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 7 The Honorable Sheila Jackson Lee, a Representative in Congress From the State of Texas: Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 8 WITNESSES PANEL I Honorable Elaine C. Duke, Acting Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 15 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 16 Mr. Christopher A. Wray, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Department of Justice: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 25 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 26 Mr. Nicholas J. Rasmussen, Director, The National Counterterrorism Center, Office of the Director of National Intelligence: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 31 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 33 PANEL II Mr. David B. Rausch, Chief of Police, City of Knoxville, Tennessee: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 112 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 114 Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Associate Dean, Director, Global Social Action Agen- da, Simon Wiesenthal Center: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 118 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 121 Mr. J. Richard Cohen, President, Southern Poverty Law Center: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 124 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 125 FOR THE RECORD The Honorable J. Luis Correa, a Representative in Congress From the State of California: Statement of Dr. Erroll G. Southers, Professor of the Practice of Govern- ance, Director, Safe Communities Institute, Director, Homegrown Violent Extremism Studies, Sol Price School of Public Policy, University of South- ern California .................................................................................................... 52 (III) VerDate Mar 15 2010 21:37 May 31, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17FL1130\17FL1130.TXT HEATH IV Page The Honorable Clay Higgins, a Representative in Congress From the State of Louisiana: Speech by the Ambassador of the State of Israel to the Center for Security Policy’s Freedom Flame Award Dinner .......................................................... 57 Article, ‘‘Mainstream Conservative Groups Alarmed to be Found on ‘Hate Map’ ’’, Washington Times ................................................................................ 61 Article, ‘‘Wealthy Southern Poverty Law rakes in Hollywood, Silicon Valley cash after Charlottesville’’, Washington Times .............................................. 63 The Honorable Bonnie Watson Coleman, a Representative in Congress From the State of New Jersey: Statement of the Feminist Majority Foundation ............................................... 64 The Honorable James R. Langevin, a Representative in Congress From the State of Rhode Island: Statement of The National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism .................................................................................... 69 The Honorable Nanette Diaz Barraga´n, a Representative in Congress From the State of California: Article, ‘‘Border Patrol Says Texas Checkpoints To Remain Open During Hurricane Harvey’’, Texas Tribune ................................................................. 89 The Honorable Donald M. Payne, Jr., a Representative in Congress From the State of New Jersey: Statement of the Anti-Defamation League ........................................................ 92 The Honorable Martha McSally, a Representative in Congress From the State of Arizona: Letter ..................................................................................................................... 108 The Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, a Representative in Congress From the State of Mississippi, and Ranking Member, Committee on Homeland Security: Statement of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) ................... 152 APPENDIX Questions From Chairman Michael T. McCaul for Elaine C. Duke .................... 157 Questions From Honorable Scott Perry for Elaine C. Duke ................................ 161 Questions From Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson for Elaine C. Duke .... 164 Questions From Honorable Val Demings for Elaine C. Duke .............................. 169 Questions From Honorable Scott Perry for Christopher A. Wray ....................... 169 Questions From Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson for Christopher A. Wray ...................................................................................................................... 173 Questions From Honorable Val Butler Demings for Christopher A. Wray ........ 174 Questions From Honorable Scott Perry for Nicholas J. Rasmussen ................... 174 Questions From Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson for Nicholas J. Ras- mussen .................................................................................................................. 175 Questions From Honorable Val Butler Demings for Nicholas J. Rasmussen ..... 176 Questions From Honorable Scott Perry for Richard Cohen ................................. 177 Questions From Honorable Clay Higgins for Richard Cohen .............................. 182 VerDate Mar 15 2010 21:37 May 31, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17FL1130\17FL1130.TXT HEATH WORLD-WIDE THREATS: KEEPING AMERICA SECURE IN THE NEW AGE OF TERROR Thursday, November 30, 2017 U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY, Washington, DC. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:06 a.m., in room HVC–210, Capitol Visitor Center, Hon. Michael T. McCaul (Chair- man of the committee) presiding. Present: Representatives McCaul, Rogers, Barletta, Perry, Hurd, McSally, Ratcliffe, Donovan, Higgins, Rutherford, Garrett, Fitzpatrick, Estes, Bacon, Thompson, Jackson Lee, Langevin, Rich- mond, Keating, Vela, Coleman, Rice, Correa, Demings, and Barraga´n. Chairman MCCAUL. The Committee on Homeland Security will come to order. The committee’s meeting today to examine the most serious threats confronting our homeland. Before I recognize myself for an opening statement, I would like to take a moment to welcome the newest member of our committee, Don Bacon. Don has served near- ly 30 years in the Air Force, and his experience in cybersecurity