Canadian Nuclear Commission canadienne de Safety Commission sûreté nucléaire Public hearing Audience publique December 4th, 2012 Le 4 décembre 2012 Hope Fellowship Church Église Hope Fellowship 1685 Bloor Street 1685, rue Bloor Courtice, Ontario Courtice (Ontario) Commission Members present Commissaires présents Dr. Michael Binder M. Michael Binder Dr. Moyra McDill Mme Moyra McDill Mr. Dan Tolgyesi M. Dan Tolgyesi Ms. Rumina Velshi Mme Rumina Velshi Dr. Ronald Barriault M. Ronald Barriault Mr. André Harvey M. André Harvey Secretary: Secrétaire: Mr. Marc Leblanc M. Marc Leblanc Senior General Counsel : Avocat général principal: Mr. Jacques Lavoie M. Jacques Lavoie (ii) TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE Opening remarks 1 12-H13.59 / 12-H13.53A 3 Oral presentation by Bruce Power 12-H13.202 / 12-H13.202A 22 Oral presentation by Northwatch 12-H13.201 / 12-H13.201A 73 Oral presentation by International Institute of Concern For Public Health(IICPH) 12-H13.58 117 Oral presentation by the Clarington Board of Trade and Office of Economic Development 12-H13.203 / 12-H13.203A 124 Oral presentation by the East Toronto Youth Nuclear Group 12-H13.32 / 12-H13.32A 150 Oral presentation by Monica Whalley 12-H13.60 173 Oral presentation by the University of Ontario Institute of Technology 12-H13.33 192 Oral presentation by Dan Rudka 12-H13.35 203 Oral presentation by Jill Lennox (iii) TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE 12-H13.26 215 Oral presentation by the Pickering Nuclear Community Advisory Council 12-H13.39 229 Oral presentation by Nadine Hawkins 12-H13.89 249 Oral presentation by the Ontario Ministry of Labour 12-H13.108 / 12-H13.108A 268 Oral presentation by Fred Twilley 12-H13.83 / 12-H13-83A 283 Oral presentation by The Organization of CANDU Industries 12-H13.61 291 Oral presentation by the Provincial Council of Women of Ontario 12-H13.62 317 Oral presentation by the Citizens for a Safe Environment And the Committee for Safe Sewage 12-H13.79 / 12-H13.79A 333 Oral presentation by the Power Workers’ Union 12-H13.80 / 12-H13.80A 355 Oral presentation by the Canadian Nuclear Workers Council (iv) TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE 12-H13.64 368 Oral presentation by Raymond Leistner 12-H13.65 375 Oral presentation by Jo Hayward-Haines 12-H13.66 384 Oral presentation by Eclipsall Energy Corp. 12-H13.86 391 Oral presentation by CANDU Energy Inc. 12-H13.34 404 Oral presentation by Jessica Rowland 12-H13.31 420 Written submission by Ysabeault d’Valar-Alba 12-H13.43 421 Written submission from Karen Loch 12-H13.191 422 Written submission from Natalie Caine 12-H13.36 422 Written submission from Jack Murphy 12-H13.8 423 Written submission from Durham Nuclear Health Committee 12-H13.9 423 Written submission from Environmental Earth Angels (v) TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE 12-H13.10 424 Written submission from Marilyn McKim 12-H13.11 431 Written submission by Don and Heather Ross 12-H13.12 435 Written submission by the Whitby Chamber of Commerce 12-H13.13 435 Written submission by Carlene Jimenez 12-H13.14 435 Written submission by the County Sustainability Group, Prince Edward County 12-H13.15 437 Written submission by Emilio Antonio Aljure 12-H13.16 438 Written submission by AECL’s Port Hope Area Initiative Management Office 12-H13.17 438 Written submission by Rick Norlock, MP Northumberland-Quinte West 12-H13.19 438 Written submission from the Green Party of Saskatchewan 12-H13.21 439 Written submission from Brenda Thompson (vi) TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE 12-H13.22 439 Written submission from Timothy Law 12-H13-23 439 Written submission from the Ajax-Pickering Board of Trade 12-H13.25 440 Written submission from The Firehouse Youth Centre 12-H13.27 440 Written submission from Michelle Xuereb 12-H13.28 440 Written submission from Joanna Bruszewski and her grandchildren 12-H13.29 441 Written submission from Big Brothers Big Sisters of Clarington 12-H13.38 441 Written submission from The Valleys 2000 (Bowmanville) Inc. 12-H13.40 441 Written submission from Melita Fernandes 12-H13.41 441 Written submission from Mike Darmon 12-H13.42 442 Written submission from William and Edith Shore (vii) TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE 12-H13.44 444 Written submission from James M. Ker 12-H13.45 444 Written submission from Harry Blundell 12-H13.46 444 Written submission from Lilly Noble 12-H13.47 445 Written submission from Frank Farrell 12-H13.48 445 Written submission from Barbara J. Moore 12-H13.49 446 Written submission from Larraine Roulston 12-H13.50 446 Written submission from Eryl Court 12-H13.51 447 Written submission from Linda and Gord Hicks and Family 12-H13.52 447 Written submission from Shane Mulligan 12-H13.53 447 Written submission from Tony McQuail 12-H13.54 448 Written submission from Dan Holtl (viii) TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE 12-H13.55 448 Written submission from Tania Gill 1 Courtice, Ontario --- Upon commencing at 8:34 a.m./ --- L’audience débute à 8h34 Opening Remarks MR. LEBLANC: Bonjour, Mesdames et Messieurs. Welcome to the continuation of the Darlington Public Hearing. The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission will resume the public hearing on the Darlington nuclear site. This deals with three particular matters as we discussed yesterday. During today's business, we have simultaneous translation. Des appareils de traduction sont disponibles à la réception. La version française est au poste 2 and the English version is on channel 1. We would ask that you keep the pace of speech relatively slow so that the translators have a chance to keep up. I’d also like to note that this hearing is being video webcast live and that the hearing is also archived on our website for a three month period after the closure of the hearing. I will just note for those on webcast that we are experiencing some small technical 2 difficulties. So we’ll ask you to be patient in terms of quality and availability. Les transcriptions seront disponibles sur le site Web de la Commission dans environ 10 jours. To make the transcripts as meaningful as possible we would ask everyone to identify themselves before speaking. And as a courtesy to others in the room, please silence your cell phones and other electronic devices. M. Binder, Président et premier dirigeant de la CCSN va présider l'audience publique d'aujourd'hui. Mister President. So we will continue today with the intervenors and we’ll follow the list as set out in the agenda for December 4th. Copies of the agenda are available at the reception desk at the back of the room. Thank you. THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you Marc and good morning. And welcome to the continuation of the Public Hearing of the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and welcome to all of you who are joining us via the broadcasting. My name is Michael Binder; I am the President of the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission. And for those of you who were not here yesterday or not listening to us yesterday, I’ll begin by re-introducing 3 the Members of the Commission. On my right is Dr. Moyra McDill and Mr. Dan Tolgyesi. On my left is Ms. Rumina Velshi and Dr. Ron Barriault and M. André Harvey. We’ve heard from Marc Leblanc, the Secretary of the Commission, and we also have with us here today M. Jacques Lavoie, Senior General Counsel of the Commission. So as Marc already said, we’ll continue with the presentation. I’d like to remind everybody that we have allotted 10 minutes for the summary of all the presentations that were made to us. We have read the written material. And we would like to engage in discussion about the written material, so please keep to the 10 minutes, please. And the first presentation today is by Bruce Power as outlined in CMD 12-H13.59 and H13.59A. And I understand that Mr. Saunders will make this presentation. The Floor is yours. 12-H13.59 / 12-H13.59A Oral presentation by Bruce Power MR. SAUNDERS: Good morning President 4 Binder, Members of the Commission. Thank you for the opportunity to present this material. As he said, my name is Frank Saunders and I’m Vice President, Nuclear Oversight and Regulatory Affairs for Bruce Power. I felt that the experience that we had on the Bruce site with fuel storage is appropriate to the matters in front of you. So I really wanted to just come in and give you our experience over the years with this subject. So I think first, it’s been a -- it’s a long history on the Bruce site since the Douglas Point reactor began operating in -- it was the late ‘60’s or early ‘70’s, but some while ago now. We have been storing fuel on the site and since then in the -- in 2003, we started actually shipping used fuel from the reactors at Bruce B over to the storage location on the OPG waste management facility. So you can see here the number of shipments to date is 774, and they continue to increase, roughly about a two week or a little more at the current average. I think to describe this shipping container as robust would be a considerable understatement. The container is quite impressive when you see it up front. It has you know, 20 inches of concrete about yeah-much, and a half inch of a steel on each side of that. The fuel 5 is stored in there. It stays in the base for 10 years minimum.