October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29207 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES-Monday, October 28~ 1985 The House met at 12 o'clock noon. ANDREWS, Mr. COCHRAN, Mr. ABDNOR, be reappointed, given his involvement The Chaplain, Rev. James David Mr. KASTEN, Mr. D'AMATO, Mr. HAT­ in the Aquino assassination and his in­ Ford, D.D., offered the following FIELD, Mr. CHILES, Mr. STENNIS, Mr. ability to lead the Philippine military prayer: BYRD, and Mr. LAUTENBERG to be the insurgency. Let the Javor of the Lord our God be conferees on the part of the Senate. Mr. Speaker, like the Shah, Presi­ upon us, and establish Thou the work The message also announced that dent Marcos has lost touch with his of our hands upon us; yea, the work of the Senate had passed a bill, joint res­ people and with reality. Let us act now our hands establish Thou it.-Psalm olutions, and a concurrent resolution before we are forced to pull the rug 90:17. of the following titles, in which the from under him. Let us act now so Gracious God, bless the work of our concurrence of the House is requested: that our security interests are pre­ hands that it may be pleasing in Your S. 1570. An act to amend the Fair Labor served and the Philippine people, our sight. May what we do contribute to Standards Act of 1938 to provide rules for friends and allies, do not fall under justice between peoples and peace be­ overtime compensatory time off for certain Communist hands. tween the nations. May our hands and public agency employees, to clarify the ap­ hearts, our strength and our witness, plication of that act to volunteers, and for other purposes; be used to Your glory and as an ex­ S.J. Res. 207. Joint resolution to designate FEDERAL TRUST FUNDS pression of good will to all the people November 1, 1985, as "National Philanthro­ of Your creation. In Your holy name, Government employees be extended be losing up to $300 million in interest Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, money that belongs to those trust through December 31, 1985; the deteriorating situation in the Phil­ H.J. Res. 308. Joint resolution designating funds because of our failure to act. the week beginning on October 20, 1985, as ippines and the subsequent press re­ I hope Members will take a look at "Benign Essential Blepharospasm Aware­ ports this weekend that President this legislation which would restore ness Week"; and Marcos has an incurable disease, with that money. H.J. Res. 322. Joint resolution to provide perhaps only 1 year to live, suggests for the designation of October 1985, as "Na­ that the United States needs a new tional Sudden Infant Death Syndrome policy towards the Philippines in order GRAMM-RUDMAN Awareness Month". to avoid another Iran. The message also announced t hat The Reagan administration has of the following title: Communist takeover and preserve Mr. ALEXANDER. Mr. Speaker, H.R. 3244. An act making appropriations American security interests, specifical­ supporters of the so-called Gramm­ for the Department of Transportation and ly, Subic and Clark bases. Specifically, Rudman proposal are like a man related agencies for the fiscal year ending we need to attach strong conditions to jumping off the Empire State Building September 30, 1986, and for other purposes. our assistance to that country. First of and, on passing the fifth floor, an­ The message also announced that all, we need to press for fair and imme­ nounces, "So far so good." the Senate insists upon its amend­ diate Presidential elections so that an The House is on record in support of ments to t he bill

0 This symbol represents the time of day during the House proceedings, e.g., 0 1407 is 2:07 p.m. Boldface type indicates words inserted or appended, rather than spoken, by a Member of the House on the floor. 29208 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 Federal spending and plunge the Gov­ 201a; 61 Stat. 378), is amended by striking Mr. Speaker, this is the third Con­ ernment into chaos. out "for the penal and correctional institu­ gress in which this question has been The fears are expressed by those tions of the District of Columbia" and in­ before the body. Two years ago, the serting in lieu thereof "for prisoners con­ such as the Nobel Prize winners, the victed of violating any law of the District of House on a voice vote adopted the Secretary of Defense, the President's Columbia or any law of the United States change in the law, but no action was own economic advisers, and the chair­ applicable exclusively to the District of Co­ taken by the other body. Under man of the Armed Services Commit­ lumbia". present law in effect for 50 years or tee. The chairman of the Judiciary SEc. 2. The Act entitled " An Act to estab­ more, the vast majority of offenders Committee even advises that the lish a Board of Indeterminate Sentence and convicted of violating either a local matter is probably unconstitutional. Parole for the District of Columbia and to District of Columbia law or Federal Mr. Speaker, one must wonder how determine its functions, and for other pur­ poses", approved July 15, 1932 in section 6 by striking out "(a)'' in subsection ; the local D.C. Parole Board. One thou­ lies in the small print in that it does and sand seven-hundred offenders, howev­ not take effect until after the 1986 by striking out subsection ; and er, serve in Federal facilities and are elections. <2> by striking out section 10 and inserting in lieu thereof the reviewed by the U.S. Board of Parole. following new section: H.R. 2050, Mr. Speaker, merely es­ ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE "SEc. 10. The Board of Parole for prison­ tablishes that since they are local of­ SPEAKER ers convicted of violating any law of the Dis­ fenders, parole jurisdiction will be trict of Columbia or any law of the United with the local parole board. That is The SPEAKER. Pursuant to the States applicable exclusively to the District provisions of clause 5 of rule I, the of Columbia has exclusive power and author­ on Judiciary and Education that con­ ity, subject to the provisions of this Act, to ducted the hearings on H.R. 2050 is are ordered, or on which the vote is release on parole, to terminate the parole objected to under clause 4 of rule XV. of, and to modify the terms and conditions the gentleman from California [Mr. Such rollcall votes, if postponed, will of the parole of, any prisoner convicted of DYMALLY], who will give a further ex­ be taken on Tuesday, October 29, 1985. violating a law of the District of Columbia, planation when he has the floor. or a law of the United States applicable ex­ Mr. Speaker, I yield back the bal­ clusively to the District of Columbia, re­ ance of my time. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA gardless of the institution in which the pris­ Mr. DYMALLY. Mr. Speaker, I move BUSINESS oner is confined.". to strike the last word. SEc. 3. Section 304 of the District of Co­ The SPEAKER. The Chair recog­ lumbia Law Enforcement Act of 1953 ; 67 Stat. 100> is amended bill introduced and passed by the [Mr. DELLUMS], chairman of the Com­ by striking out ", or the United States House of Representatives in the 98th mittee on the District of Columbia. Board of Parole has authorized the release Congress. It would transfer parole of a prisoner under section 6 of that Act, as over District of Columbia Code offend­ amended After the date of enactment of Parole Commission to the District of ITY TO THE DISTRICT OF CO­ this Act, individual convicted of violating LUMBIA PAROLE BOARD both a law of the District of Columbia and a law lumbia Code offenders housed in Fed­ rection of the Committee on the Dis­ of the United States shall be given separate eral Bureau of Prison facilities. Male trict of Columbia, I call up the bill and distinct sentences for such convictions. District of Columbia Code offenders to give to the Board of The United States Parole Commission are placed in Federal facilities for se­ Parole for the District of Columbia ex­ shall retain parole authority over individ­ lective custody and various other rea­ clusive power and authority to make uals who, prior to the date of enactment of sons. Female District of Columbia of­ parole determinations concerning pris­ this Act, received unified sentences for vio­ lations of both a law of the District of Co­ fenders sentenced to greater than 1 oners convicted of violating any law of year terms are routinely placed in Fed­ the District of Columbia, or any law of lumbia and a law of the United This is due to the absence of a local ly to the District, and ask unanimous States. penal facility for female offenders. consent that the bill be considered in SEc. 5. Within one year after the date of Most of these female offenders are the House as in the Committee of the the enactment of this Act, the Board of Whole. Parole for the District of Columbia, under confined at Alderson, WV, over 300 The Clerk read the title of the bill. applicable guidelines, shall make parole eli­ miles from the District of Columbia. The SPEAKER pro tempore Except as provided in subsec­ contrary to current Federal-State H.R. 2050 tion (b), the provisions of this Act shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this parole practices. According to the U.S. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Parole Commission, the District of Co­ Representatives of the United State8 of Act. America in Congress assembled, The amendments made by sections 1, lumbia is the only local jurisdiction SECTION 1. The first sentence of the first 2, and 3 of this Act shall take effect one housing inmates in Federal correction section of the Act entitled " An Act to reor­ year after the date of the enactment of this institutions which does not retain its ganize the system of parole of prisoners con­ Act. own parole authority. As a result of victed in the District of Columbia", ap­ Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I move this practice, several Federal lawsuits proved July 17, 1947 provisions for a master jury wheel of this chapter, all qualified individuals which shall be emptied and refilled at speci­ The bill was ordered to be engrossed shall have the opportunity to be considered fied intervals, not to exceed 24 months; and read a third time, was read the for service on grand and petit juries in the "(3) provisions for the disclosure to the third time, and passed, and a motion District of Columbia and shall be obligated parties and the public of the names of indi­ to reconsider was laid on the table. to serve as jurors when summoned for that viduals selected for jury service, except in purpose. cases in which the chief judge determines "§ 11-1902. Definitions. that confidentiality is required in the inter­ GENERAL LEAVE "For purposes of this chapter, the follow­ est of justice; and Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I ask ing terms have the following meanings: "(4) procedure to be followed by the clerk unanimous consent that all Members "( 1 > The term 'Board of Judges' means of the Court in assigning individuals to may have 5 legislative days in which to the chief judge and the associate judges of grand and petit juries. the Superior Court of the District of Colum­ "(b) The jury system plan shall be admin­ revise and extend their remarks on the istered by the clerk of the Court under the bill just passed. bia. "(2) The term 'chief judge' means the supervision of the Board of Judges. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is chief judge of the Superior Court of the "§ 11-1905. Master juror list. there objection to the request of the District of Columbia. "(a) The jury system plan shall provide gentleman from California? "(3) The term 'clerk' means the clerk of for the compilation and maintenance by the There was no objection. the Superior Court of the District of Colum­ Board of Judges of a master juror list from bia or any deputy clerk. which names of prospective jurors shall be "(4) The term 'Court' means the Superior DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA JURY drawn. Such master juror list shall consist Court of the District of Columbia and may of the list of District of Columbia voters, in­ SYSTEM ACT include any judge of the Court acting in an dividuals who submit their names to the Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, by di­ official capacity. Court for inclusion on the master juror list, "(5) The term 'juror' means any indi­ and names from such other appropriate rection of the Committee on the Dis­ vidual summoned to Superior Court for the trict of Columbia, I call up the bill sources and lists as may be provided in the purpose of serving on a jury; any indi­ jury system plan. any individual whose service on a any person having custody, possession, or unanimous consent that the bill be jury is temporarily deferred. "(6) The term 'jury' includes a grand or control of any list required under subsection considered in the House as in the shall provide such list to the Court, at Committee of the Whole. petit jury. "<7> The term 'jury system plan' means cost, at all reasonable times. Each list shall The Clerk read the title of the bill. the plan adopted by the Board of Judges of contain the names and addresses of individ­ The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the Court, consistent with the provisions of uals on the list. Any list obtained by the there objection to the request of the this chapter, to govern the administration Court under the provisions of this chapter gentleman from California? of the jury system. may be used by the Court only for the selec­ There was no objection. "(8) The term 'master juror list' means tion of jurors pursuant to this chapter. the consolidated list or lists compiled and "(c) Not less than once each year, the The Clerk read the bill, as follows: Board of Judges shall give public notice to H.R. 2946 maintained by the Board of Judges of the District of Columbia Courts which contains the citizens of the District of Columbia that Be it enacted by the Senate and House of the names of prospective jurors for service individuals may be included on the master Representatives of the United States of in the Superior Court of the District of Co­ juror list by submission of their names and America in Congress assembled, lumbia. addresses to the clerk of the Court. Such SECI'ION 1. SHORT TITLE. "(9) The term 'random selection' means public notice shall be given through such This Act may be cited as the "District of the selection of names of prospective jurors means as will reasonably assure as broad a Columbia Jury System Act". in a manner immune from the purposeful or dissemination as possible. SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF DISTRICI' OF COLUM­ inadvertent introduction of subjective bias, "§ 11-1906. Qualification of Jurors. BIA JURY SYSTEM. so that no recognizable class of the individ­ " The jury system plan shall provide Chapter 19 of title 11 of the District of uals on the list or lists from which the for procedures for the random selection and Columbia Code is amended to read as fol­ names are being selected can be purposeful­ qualification of grand and petit jurors from lows: ly or inadvertently included or excluded. the master juror list. Such plan may provide "CHAPTER 19. JURIES AND JURORS "<10) The term 'resident of the District of for separate or joint qualification and sum­ Sec. Columbia' means an individual who has re­ moning processes. "11-1901. Declaration of policy. sided or has been domiciled in the District "(b)(1) An individual shall be qualified to "11-1902. Definitions. of Columbia for not less than six months. serve as a juror if that individual- "11-1903. Prohibition of discrimination. "§ 11-1903. Prohibition of discrimination. " is a resident of the District of Colum- "11-1904. Jury system plan. "A citizen of the District of Columbia may bia; "11-1905. Master juror list. not be excluded or disqualified from jury "(B) is a citizen of the United States; "11-1906. Qualification of jurors. service as a grand or petit juror in the Dis­ " is able to read, speak, and understand "11-1908. Exclusion from jury service. religion, sex, national origin, ancestry, eco­ the English language. "11-1909. Deferral from jury service. nomic status, marital status, age, or physical handi­ serve as a juror- lection procedures. cap. "11-1911. Length of service. " if determined to be incapable by "11-1912. Juror fees. "§ 11-1904. Jury System Plan. reason of physical or mental infirmity of "11-1913. Protection of employment of " The Board of Judges shall adopt, im­ rendering satisfactory jury service; or jurors. plement, and as necessary modify, a written "(B) if that individual has been convicted "11-1914. Preservation of records. jury system plan for the random selection of a felony or has a pending felony or mis­ "11-1915. Fraud in the selection process. and service of grand and petit jurors in the demeanor charge, except that an individual "11-1916. Grand jury; additional grand jury. Superior Court consistent with the provi­ disqualifed for jury service by reason of a "11-1917. Coordination and cooperation of sions of this chapter. The adopted plan and felony convicton may qualify for jury serv­ courts. any modifications shall be subject to a 30- ice not less than one year after the comple­ "11-1918. Effect of invalidity. day period of review by Congress in the tion of the term of incarceration, probation, "CHAPTER 19. JURIES AND JURORS manner provided for an act of the Council or parole following appropriate certification under procedures set out in the jury system "§ 11-1901. Declaration of policy. under section 602< of the District of Columbia Self-Government and Govern­ plan. "A jury selection system is hereby estab­ ment Reorganization Act. The plan shall in­ "(3) Any determination regarding qualifi­ lished for the Superior Court of the District clude- cation for jury service shall be made on the October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29211 basis of information provided in the juror relevant to his or her ability to serve on receive regular compensation during the qualification form and any other competent such other jury. The procedures for chal­ period of jury service shall not be compen­ evidence. lenges to and review of exclusions from jury sated for jury service. Amounts representing " The jury system plan shall provide service shall be set forth in the jury system reimbursement of expenses incurred in con­ that a juror qualification form be mailed to plan. nection with jury service may be paid to each prospective juror. The form and con­ "§ 11-1909. Deferral from jury service. such employees to the extent provided in tent of such juror qualification form shall "A qualified prospective juror may be de­ the jury system plan. be determined under the plan. Notarization ferred from jury service only upon a show­ "§ of the juror qualification form shall not be 11-1913. Protection of employment of jurors. ing of undue hardship, extreme inconven­ " An employer shall not deprive an em­ required. ience, public necessity, or temporary physi­ "(2) An individual who fails to return a ployee of employment, threaten, or other­ cal or mental disability which would affect wise coerce an employee with respect to em­ completed juror qualification form as in­ service as a juror. The procedure for re­ structed may be ordered by the Court to ployment because the employee receives a questing a deferral from jury service and summons, responds to a summons, serves as appear before the clerk to fill out such the procedure and basis for granting a de­ form, to appear before the Court and show a juror, or attends Court for prospective cause why he or she should not be held in ferral shall be set forth in the master plan. jury service. contempt for failure to submit the qualifica­ "§ 11-1910. Challenging compliance with selection "(b) An employer who violates subsection tion form, or both. An individual who fails procedures. is guilty of criminal contempt. Upon a to show good cause for such failure, or who " A party may challenge the composi­ finding of criminal contempt an employer without good cause fails to appear pursuant tion of a jury by a motion for appropriate may be fined not more than $300, impris­ to a Court order, may be punished by a fine relief. A challenge shall be brought and de­ oned for not more than 30 days, or both, for of not more than $300, by imprisonment for cided before any individual juror is exam­ a first offense, and may be fined not more not more than seven days, or both. ined, unless the Court orders otherwise. The than $5,000, imprisoned for not more than "(d) An individual who intentionally mis­ motion shall be in writing, supported by af­ 180 days, or both, for any subsequent of­ represents a material fact on a juror qualifi­ fidavit, and shall specify the facts constitut­ fense." cation form for the purpose of avoiding or ing the grounds for the challenge. If the " If an employer discharges an employ­ securing service as a juror may be punished Court so determines, the motion may be de­ ee in violation of subsection , the employ­ by a fine of not more than $300, by impris­ cided on the basis of the affidavjts filed ee within 9 months of such discharge may onment for not more than 90 days, or both. with the challenge. If the Court orders trial bring a civil action for recovery of wages "§ 11-1907. Summoning of Prospective Jurors. of the challenge, witnesses may be exam­ lost as a result of the violation, for an order ined on oath by the Court and may be so ex­ of reinstatement of employment, and for " At such times as are determined amined by either party. under the jury system plan, the Court shall damages. If an employee prevails in an "(b) If the Court determines that in se­ action under this subsection, that employee summon or cause to be summoned from lecting a grand or petit jury there has been among qualified individuals under section shall be entitled to reasonable attorney fees a substantial failure to comply with this fixed by the court. 11-1906 sufficient prospective jurors to ful­ chapter, the Court shall stay the proceed­ fill requirements for petit and grand jurors ings pending the selection of a jury in con­ "§ 11-1914. Preservation of records. for the Court. A summons shall require a firmity with this chapter, quash the indict­ "(a) All records and lists compiled and propsective juror to report for possible jury ment, or grant other appropriate relief. maintained in connection with the selection service at a specified time and place unless "(c) The procedures prescribed by this sec­ advised otherwise by the Court. Service of and service of jurors shall be preserved for prospective jurors may be made personally tion are the exclusive means by which a the length of time specified in the jury or by first-class, registered, or certified mail person accused of a crime, the District of system plan. as determined under the plan. Columbia, the United States, or a party in a "(b) The contents of any records or lists "(b) A prospective juror who fails to civil case may challenge a jury on the used in connection with the selection proc­ appear for jury duty may be ordered by the ground that the jury was not selected in ess shall not be disclosed, except in connec­ conformity with this chapter. Nothing in tion with the preparation or presentation of Court to appear and show cause why he or this section shall preclude any person from she should not be held in contempt for such a motion under § 11-1910, or until all indi­ failure to appear. A prospective juror who pursuing any other remedy, civil or crimi­ viduals selected to serve as grand or petit nal, which may be available for the vindica­ jurors from such lists have been discharged. fails to show good cause for such failure, or tion or enforcement of any law prohibiting who without good cause fails to appear pur­ "§ 11-1915. Fraud in the selection process. suant to a Court order, may be punished by discrimination on account of race, color, re­ ligion, sex, national origin, economic status, "An individual who commits fraud in the a fine of not more than $300, by imprison­ processing or selection of jurors or prospec­ ment for not more than seven days, or both. marital status, age, or physical handicap in the selection of individuals for service on tive jurors, either by causing any name to "§ 11-1908. Exclusion from jury service. grand or petit juries. be inserted into any list maliciously or by "(a) Subject to the provisions of this sec­ "§ 11-1911. Length of service. causing any name to be deleted from any tion and of sections 11-1903, 11-1906, and list maliciously excluded by the Court on more than once as a grand or petit juror of the crime of jury tampering, and, upon the ground that that individual may be except as may be necessary by reason of the conviction, may be punished by a fine of not unable to render impartial jury service or insufficiency of the master juror list or as more than $10,000, imprisonment for not that his or her service as a juror would be ordered by the Court. more than two years, or both. This section likely to disrupt the proceedings; <2> ex­ "§ 11-1912. Juror fees. shall not limit any other provisions of law cluded upon peremptory challenge as por­ " Notwithstanding section 602 of the concerning the crime of jury tampering. vided by law; <3> excluded pursuant to the District of Columbia Self-Orovernment and procedure specified by law upon a challenge Governmental Reorganization Act, grand "§ 11-1916. Grand jury; additional grand jury. by any party for good cause shown; or <4> and petit jurors serving in the Superior "(a) A grand jury serving in the District of excluded upon determination by the Court Court shall receive fees and expenses at Columbia may take cognizance of all mat­ that his or her service as a juror would be rates established by the Council of the Dis­ ters brought before it regardless of whether likely to threaten the secrecy of the pro­ trict of Columbia, except that such fees and an indictment is returnable in the Federal ceedings, or otherwise adversely affect the expenses may not exceed the respective or District of Columbia courts. integrity of jury deliberations. No person rates paid to such jurors in the federal "(b) If the United States Attorney for the shall be excluded under clause <4> of this system. District of Columbia certifies in writing to subsection unless the judge, in open Court, "(b) A petit or grand juror receiving bene­ the chief judge that an additional grand determines that such exclusion is warranted fits under the laws of employment security jury is required, the judge may in his or her and that exclusion of that individual will of the District of Columbia shall not lose discretion order an additional grand jury not be inconsistent with sections 11-1901 such benefits on account of performance of summoned which shall be drawn at such and 11-1903 of this chapter. juror service. time as he or she designates. Unless dis­ "(c) An individual excluded from a jury "(c) Employees of the United States or of charged by order of the judge, the addition­ shall be eligible to sit on another jury if the any State or local government who serve as al grand jury shall serve until the end of the basis for the initial exclusion would not be grand or petit jurors and who continue to term for which it is drawn. - 29212 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 "§ 11-1917. Coordination and Cooperation of ister its own jury system, independent tious efforts as the chairperson of the Courts. of the U.S. District Court for the Dis­ Subcommittee on Judiciary and Edu­ "To the extent feasible, the Superior trict of Columbia. cation and the ranking minority Court and the United States District Court Most important, it is quite capable member of that subcommittee. Both shall consider the respective needs of each of doing so and at the same time con­ of these gentlemen are very delightful court in the qualification, selection, and tinuing to work closely and cooperate service of jurors. Nothing in this chapter members to work with. They are con­ shall be construed to prevent such courts with the U.S. District Court for the scientious, hard-working members who from entering into any agreement for shar­ District of Columbia. Hence, the local are very diligent about the business of ing resources and facilities . 1866(d), and 1867 of this chapter presently being considered. Those such terms shall include the Superior Court cation in strong support of H.R. 2946. of the District of Columbia". This legislation is needed for the items are as follows: SEC. .S . EFFECfiVE DATE. District of Columbia court system to U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, Except as provided in subsection (b), effectively and efficiently deal with OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AND INTER· the provisions of this Act shall take effect the large caseload of court proceedings GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS, 180 days after the date of enactment of this that it is faced with. Last year this Washington, DC, October 28, 1985. Act. Hon. RoBERT H. MICHEL, body authorized seven new superior Minority Leader, Upon enactment of this Act, the Board court judges for the District of Colum­ of Judges shall have authority to promul­ U.S. House of Representatives, gate and adopt a jury system plan in accord­ bia. The addition of these positions Washington, DC. ance with this Act and the Court and the has overstrained the limited capacity DEAR CONGRESSMAN MicHEL: The following clerk of the Court shall have authority to of the present jury selection system bills are scheduled for floor action on take all necessary actions preliminary to the employed by the District courts. Monday, October 28, 1985 on the District assumption of the administration of an in­ The courts have also instituted the Calendar: dependent jury system under this Act. H.R. 2050.-a bill to transfer parole au­ "one day, one trial" method of jury thority over District of Columbia offenders Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I move duty which places larger demands on housed in federal prison from the United to strike the last word. Mr. Speaker, the panels of jury selection than the States Parole Cominission to the District of this bill relieves the U.S. courts of the traditional method of jury service. I Columbia Parole Board. task of calling jurors to serve at trials support one day, one trial and I am H.R. 2946.-a bill to establish an inde­ in local District of Columbia courts. proud of the work that the chairman pendent jury system for the Superior Court The present practice is a holdover of the subcommittee and I did in of the District of Columbia. from 1970, when the U.S. court han­ achieving this carefully written bipar­ H.R. 3578.--a bill to provide permanent A full explanation of the bill will be Mr. BLILEY. I am happy to yield to authority for hearing commissioners in the given by my distinguished colleague, the gentleman from California. District of Columbia courts, to modify cer­ tain procedures of the District of Columbia the gentleman from California [Mr. Mr. DYMALLY. Mr. Speaker, I want courts, to modify certain procedures of the DYMALLY], who chairs the Subcommit­ to take this opportunity to express my District of Columbia Judicial Nomination tee on Judiciary and Education, when deep gratitude to the gentleman from Commission and the District of Columbia he is recognized. Virginia [Mr. BLILEY] for his support Commission on Judicial Disabilities and Mr. Speaker, with that brief expla­ of this legislation and other legislation Tenure, and for other purposes. nation, I yield back the balance of my affecting the judiciary in the District The Department of Justice has sent let­ time. of Columbia. The gentleman from Vir­ ters of opposition on H.R. 2050 and H.R. Mr. DYMALLY. Mr. Speaker, I move ginia has been most cooperative in the 2946 to the Committee on the District of to strike the last word. committee's deliberations, and I wish Columbia . Mr. Speaker, this bill is quite simple. to express my thanks to him. H.R. 2050 H.R. 2946 is a bill to establish an inde­ Mr. BLILEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank The Department opposes H.R. 2050 for pendent jury system for the Superior the gentleman from California [Mr. several reasons: Court of the District of Columbia. DYMALLY], and I yield back the bal­ (1) Place of incarceration rather than ju­ In 1970, this body and Congress ance of my time. risdiction of correction determines parole passed the District of Columbia Court Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I move jurisdiction under the D.C. Code. <2> The policies and procedures of the Reform Act, which became effective in to strike the last word. D.C. Board of Parole were called into seri­ 1971. We established a D.C. court Mr. Speaker, I rise simply to compli­ ous question during a hearing on similar leg­ system expressly analogous to State ment the gentleman from California islation New guidelines established by D.C. ciency, the court is prepared to admin- diligent activity and their conscien- Board of Parole in the Spring of 1985 have October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29213 not yet been analyzed for efficiency and ef­ kept secret and the decision makers are A larger question is what role should fectiveness. sworn to secrecy, but witnesses may tell the parole serve as a correctional tool in the <4> The U.S. Sentencing Commission es­ public about their testimony and submis­ District of Columbia? The legislative history tablished under P.L. 98-473 and recently We would appreciate any assistance you 1984, P.L. 98-473, clearly reflects the Con­ confirmed by the Senate will have to ad­ could give in making our views known on gressional determination that the "rehabili­ dress this issue as it determines how to these issues. tation model" upon which the Federal sen­ phase out the U.S. Parole Commission The Office of Management and Budget tencing and parole system was based is no . has advised this Department and that there longer valid. S. Rep. No. 225, 98th Congress, <5> A piecemeal approach to the D.C. sen­ is no objection to the submission of this 1st Sess. 38 0983>. Based upon a study span­ tencing and correctional practices is a real report from the standpoint of the Adminis­ ning a decade conducted by the National and direct threat to law enforcement inter­ tration's program. Commission on Reform of Federal Criminal ests in the District, especially since August Sincerely, Law, it was concluded that the Federal sen­ of 1985 when the Federal Bureau of Prisons PHILLIP D. BRADY, tencing and parole system resulted in signif­ started to assume custody of all D.C. Code Acting Assistant Attorney General. icant disparities in criminal sentences. As violators sentenced in D.C. Superior Court stated in the Senate Report: to assist the District government in respond­ U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, "The shameful disparity in criminal sen­ ing to a court order to reduce overcrowding OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AND INTER­ tences is a major flaw in the existing crimi­ at its correctional facilities. GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS, nal justice system, and makes it clear that H.R. 2946 Washington, DC, September 27, 1985. the system is ripe for reform. Correcting our While H.R. 2946 contains significant im­ Hon. RoNALD DELLUMS, arbitrary and capricious method of sentenc­ provements over the jury selection system Chairman, Committee on the District of Co­ ing will not be a panacea for all of the prob­ now in effect in the federal courts, e.g. lumbia, Washington, DC. lems which confront the administration of broadening the base of persons who can be DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: This is in response to criminal justice, but it will constitute a sig­ summoned for jury duty, narrowing the your request for the views of the Depart­ nificant step forward. number of automatic exclusions from jury ment of Justice on H.R. 2050, a bill "to give "The [Comprehensive Crime Control Act service, and increasing the penalties for cer­ to the Board of Parole of the District of Co­ of 1984 l meets the critical chal­ tain fraudulent conduct in the jury selec­ lumbia exclusive power and authority to lenges of sentencing reform. The [CCCA'sl tion process, we do not believe that a bifur­ make parole determination concerning pris­ sweeping provisions are designed to struc­ cated approach to the D.C. jury selection oners convicted of violating any law of the ture judicial sentencing discretion, eliminate system-one for the local trial court and one District of Columbia, or any law of the indeterminate sentencing, phase out parole for the federal trial court-is a prudent or United States applicable exclusively to the release, and make criminal sentencing fairer efficient one. Such a bifurcated approach District." As set forth in more detail below, and more certain. The current effort consti­ would entail administrative difficulties, du­ the Department of Justice believes that the tutes an important attempt to reform the plication of effort and additional cost to the change sought by this bill would not im­ manner in which we sentence convicted of­ federal government. For these reasons, we prove the law enforcement and corrections fenders. The Committee believes that the oppose H.R. 2946 in its present form, but we programs in the District of Columbia and [CCCAl represents a major breakthrough in would consider changes to the Jury Selec­ we therefore oppose this bill. Furthermore, this area." Id. at 65. tion and Service Act to incorporate the im­ we believe that Congress should not under­ The current D.C. sentencing and parole provements contained in H.R. 2946. take piecemeal revisions of the D.C. correc­ tions programs until completion of a thor­ system does not reflect this new under­ H.R. 3578 ough and comprehensive review of all sen­ standing of the limitations of the "rehabili­ Although this Department has not been tencing and correctional practices. tation model" as described above. asked to comment on H.R. 3370, H.R. 3578 At present under the D.C. Code, the deter­ In addition, the District of Columbia or H.R. 3592, we do have concerns about mination of parole jurisdiction is controlled parole system has other demonstrated prob­ several provisions contained in these related by the place of incarceration rather than lems. When we reviewed similar legislation bills. H.R. 3592 appears to be the bill sched­ decisions for D.C. Code offenders when they 25, 1983 from Assistant Attorney General uled for floor action. We do object to Sec­ are housed in D.C. institutions and the Robert A. McConnell to you. The Depart­ tion 2 of this bill which requires the U.S. At­ United States Parole Commission makes ment noted at that time that the D.C. torney for District of Columbia to compile parole decisions for D.C. Code offenders Board of Parole, according to its 1982 an annual report by category of offense and when they are housed in federal institu­ annual report, granted parole at initial conviction of D.C. Code violators, and viola­ tions. At the present time over 1,400 D.C. hearings to 61 percent of the adult offend­ tors of U.S. law exclusive to the District of Code offenders are held in Federal Bureau ers and that 73 percent of the remainder Columbia. The material is now available and of Prisons facilities. This represents the de­ were granted parole upon a rehearing. The a matter of public record. To have the local signed capacity of three modern correction­ Board also reported however, that based U.S. Attorney's office utilize the manpower al institutions. Although some of these are upon a study of a selected sample of 322 pa­ and resources necessary to compile and pub­ in federal custody because of their extreme­ rolees released on parole between 1977 and lish this report would create serious budget­ ly violent criminal histories or to separate 1979, 52 percent were re-arrested during the ary problems for that office-an issue the them from other District of Columbia in­ first two years of parole supervision. Of the Committee failed to address. mates, the bulk of them are in federal custo­ parolees who were re-arrested, 77 percent Sections 10-11 of H.R. 3592 would govern dy primarily because of shortages of space were convicted for crimes committed while public access to materials of the Judicial to house inmates in the District of Colum­ on parole. Given the very high percentage Nomination Commission. It is our belief bia system. Thus, two factors not addressed of parolees released at the time of initial that confidentiality promotes candor in in H.R. 2050 are the real burden to the Fed­ parole consideration and the very high rate such proceedings but we recognize that eral Bureau of Prisons of confining this of recidivist criminal activity among those there may be instances where total secrecy large group of local offenders and the seri­ released, the policies and procedures of the is unfair. Section 13 requires in part that ous problems involved in adding these geo­ D.C. Board of Parole were called into seri­ the record and materials filed in connection graphically dispersed inmates to the D.C. ous question. with the Judicial Disability and Tenure Parole Board's caseload. We also pointed out that despite the large Commission be kept confidential unless the In the 1930's when the D.C. Board of number of D.C. parolees who commit crimes judge whose conduct or health is at issue Parole was established, this divided jurisdic­ following parole release, parole apparently authorizes disclosure. It is not clear whether tional scheme may have met correctional was revoked in a relatively small percentage the judge can authorize disclosure of some needs. The Comprehensive Crime Control of the cases. In that regard, the D.C. Board of the information while suppressing the Act of 1983 abolishes the United States of Parole reported that of those parolees in rest. If so, this could result in presenting a Parole Commission in 1991, however, and its 1977-1979 sample who were convicted of very one-sided picture to the public. We sug­ legislative attention must clearly be given to crimes while on parole, parole was revoked gest that either of the following approaches the questions of future parole responsibility because of the new offense in less than one would be preferable: for D.C. Code offenders designated to Fed­ half of the cases. Although the reason for <1 > requiring a judge who wants part of eral institutions. At the same time every this statistic was not explained, it appears the record to be made public to consent to effort must be made to insure that the Dis­ that it may be attributed to the D.C. Parole all of it being made public, or trict of Columbia will provide adequate Board policy of not issuing parole violator <2> following the rule which applies in prison space to house its sentenced crimi­ warrants for certain offenses. In this regard, grand jury proceedings, i.e., the record is nals. the Board listed in its 1982 Annual Report 29214 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 the types of offenses it terms "Eligible Of­ established by the Jury Selection and Serv­ purposes, and ask unanimous consent fenses" for purposes of issuance of parole vi­ ice Act <28 U.S.C. 1861, et seq.> and adminis­ that the bill be considered in the olator warrants. It appears that as a matter tered by the United States District Court House as in the Committee of the of policy, the Board will not issue parole vio­ for the District of Columbia. If H.R. 2946 Whole. lator warrants for burglary of commercial were enacted, there would exist within the establishments, possession of firearms District of Columbia two separate jury se­ The Clerk read the title of the bill. , grand and one for the federal trial court. Inevita­ there objection to the request of the larceny, embezzlement, fraud, forgery and bly, such a bifurcated approach would entail gentleman from California? uttering and for a host of other violations of administrative difficulties, duplication of There was no objection. the District of Columbia Code or the United effort, and additional cost to the federal The Clerk read the bill, as follows: government, notwithstanding the provision States Code. H.R. 3578 This apparent policy which allows sub­ of the bill that encourages the federal and stantial numbers of parolees to continue on local courts to share resources and facilities Be it enacted by the Senate and House of parole even after arrest and conviction of to the extent feasible. Representatives of the United States of serious crimes was of significant concern to H.R. 2946 would improve the current jury America in Congress assembled. us in the past. If these matters have not yet selection system by broadening the base of SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. been completely remedied, and it may be persons who can be summoned for jury This Act may be cited as the "District of too early to conclude that they have, then duty, by narrowing the number of automat­ Columbia Prosecutorial and Judicial Effi. similar concern is presently warranted. ic exclusions from jury service, and by in­ ciency Act of 1985". Under H.R. 2050, the jurisdiction of the creasing the penalties for certain fraudulent SEC. 2. ANNUAL REPORT ON PROSECUTIONS. D.C. Board of Parole would be substantially conduct in the jury selection process. How­ Not later than March 1 of each year, the expanded to include those D.C. Code of­ ever, we are not persuaded that the prospect United States attorney for the District of fenders presently under the jurisdiction of of such advances warrants the establish­ Columbia shall compile and make available the U.S. Parole Commission. These offend­ ment of another jury selection system in an annual report concerning prosecutions, ers, however, include some of the most dan­ the District of Columbia, with all of the under the laws of the District of Columbia gerous and violent criminals convicted in drawbacks that such a course would entail. and the laws of the United States applicable the District of Columbia. Premature release Rather, we think the better course would be exclusively to the District of Columbia, con­ of such individuals pursuant to existing to consider amending the Jury Selection ducted by the Office of the United States parole policies would pose a real and direct and Service Act to incorporate the improve­ attorney for the District of Columbia in the threat to law enforcement interests in the ments contained in H.R. 2946. Such an ap­ previous calendar year. Such report shall in­ District of Columbia. proach would improve the jury selection clude the number of prosecutions and con­ We believe it is time for a thorough legis­ process not only in the Superior Court but victions by category and nature of offense, lative review of District of Columbia sen­ in all federal courts. Equally important, it and shall include any recommendations con­ tencing and correctional practices. A major would preserve the unified selection system cerning the criminal justice system in the expansion of the capacity of D.C. correc­ currently in effect in the District of Colum­ District of Columbia. bia, thereby avoiding the administrative and tional facilities is essential. The Federal SEC. 3. HEARING COMMISSIONERS. Bureau of Prisons is seriously overcrowded financial costs of a bifurcated system. The Office of Management and Budget Section 11-1732 of title 11 of the District and can no longer accept the overload of the of Columbia Code is amended to read as fol­ District of Columbia system. This is espe­ has advised that there is no objection to the cially true in light of the increased D.C. submiSsion of this report from the stand­ lows: prison population that would result, at least point of the Administration's program. "§ 11-1732. Hearing commissionen. temporarily, from a more responsibly run Sincerely, " The chief judge of the Superior Court parole system. Replacement of the parole PHILLIP D. BRADY, may appoint and remove hearing commis­ system in the District of Columbia by a sen­ Acting Assistant Attorney General. sioners who shall serve in the Superior tencing guideline system similar to that Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I move Court and perform the duties enumerated adopted by Congress in the Comprehensive the previous question on the bill. in subsection of this section and such Crime Control Act of 1984 should be consid­ other duties as are consistent with the Con­ ered. While expansion of the D.C. inmate The previous question was ordered. stitution and laws of the United States and capacity must begin at once, other changes The bill was ordered to be engrossed of the District of Columbia and are assigned can be more thoroughly considered than is and read a third time, was read the by rule of the Superior Court. done in H.R. 2050. third time, and passed, and a motion " No individual may be appointed or The Office of Management and Budget to reconsider was laid on the table. serve as a hearing commissioner under this has advised this Department that there is section unless such individual has been a no objection to the submission of this report member of the bar of the District of Colum­ from the standpoint of the Administration's GENERAL LEAVE bia for at least three years. program. Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I ask " A hearing commissioner, when specifi­ Sincerely, unanimous consent that all Members cally designated by the chief judge of the PHILLIP D. BRADY, Superior Court, may perform the following Acting Assistant Attorney General. may have 5legislative days in which to functions: revise and extend their remarks on the "<1> Administer oaths and affirmations U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, bill just passed. and take acknowledgments. OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AND INTER· The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is "(2) Determine conditions of release and GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS, there objection to the request of the pretrial detention pursuant to the provi­ Washington, DC, July 31, 1985. gentleman from California? sions of title 23 of the District of Columbia Hon. RONALD V. DELLUMS, There was no objection. Code . Chairman, Committee on District of Colum­ "<3> Conduct preliminary examinations in bia, U.S. House of Representatives, all criminal cases to determine if there is Washington, DC. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA JUDI­ probable cause to believe that an offense DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: This is to proffer the CIAL EFFICIENCY AND IM­ has been committed and that the accused views of the Department of Justice on H.R. PROVEMENT ACT OF 1985 committed it. 2946, a bill that would establish an inde­ "<4> Subject to the provisions of subsec­ pendent jury selection system for the Supe­ Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, by di­ tion , with the consent of the parties in­ rior Court of the District of Columbia. rection of the Committee on the Dis­ volved, make findings in uncontested pro­ While we believe that some of the changes trict of Columbia, I call up the bill ceedings, and in contested hearings in the from current law contained in H.R. 2946 to provide permanent au­ civil, criminal, and family divisions of the would constitute significant improvements thority for hearing commissioners in Superior Court. over the jury selection system now in effect the District of Columbia courts, to "<1> With respect to proceedings and in the federal courts, we oppose the bill for hearings under subsection <4>, a rehear­ the reasons set forth below. modify certain procedures of the Dis­ ing of the case, or a review of the hearing Jury selection for both the Superior Court trict of Columbia Judicial Nomination commissioner's findings, may be made by a of the District of Columbia and the United Commission and the District of Co­ judge of the appropriate division sua sponte States District Court for the District of Co­ lumbia Commission on Judicial Dis­ and shall be made upon a motion of one of lumbia is now governed by a single process abilities and Tenure, and for other the parties, which motion shall be filed October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29215 within ten days after the judgment. An Judge of the District of Columbia Court of concerning the answering and certification appeal to the District of Columbia Court of Appeals". of questions of law under this section. Appeals may be made only after a review SEC. 7. REORGANIZATION OF AUDIT RESPONSIBIL­ "(g) The written opinion of the District of hearing is held in the Superior Court. ITY. Columbia Court of Appeals stating the law "(2)(A) In any case brought under sections (a) AUDITOR-MASTER.-Section 11-1724 of governing any questions certified under sub­ 11-1101 <1>. <3>. <10), or <11> involving the title 11 of the District of Columbia Code is section shall be sent by the clerk to the establishment or enforcement of child sup­ amended- certifying court and to the parties. port, or in any case seeking to modify an ex­ <1 > by striking out "( 1> audit and state fi­ "< 1> The District of Columbia Court of isting child support order, where a hearing duciary accounts,"; and Appeals, on its own motion or the motion of commissioner in the Family Division of the <2> by respectively designating clauses <2> any party, may order certification of ques­ Superior Court finds that there is an exist­ and <3> as clauses "<1)" and "(2)". tions of law to the highest court of any ing duty of support, the hearing commis­ (b) REGISTER OF WILLS.-Section 11- State under the conditions described in sub­ sioner shall conduct a hearing on support, 2104(a) of title 11 of the District of Colum­ section . make findings, and enter judgment. bia Code is amended- "(2) The procedures for certification from " If in a case under subparagraph . <1> in paragraph <2> by striking out "and" the District of Columbia to a State shall be the hearing commissioner finds that a duty after the semicolon; those provided in the laws of that State.". of support exists and makes a finding that <2> in paragraph <3> by striking out the SEC. 10. PUBLIC ACCESS TO MATERIALS OF JUDI- the case involves complex issues requiring period and inserting in lieu thereof "; and"; CIAL NOMINATION COMMISSION. judicial resolution, the hearing commission­ and Section 434(c)(3) of the District of Colum­ er shall establish a temporary support obli­ <3> by inserting at the end thereof the fol­ gation and refer unresolved issues to a lowing new paragraph: bia Self-Government and Governmental Re­ judge. organization Act is amended by striking out "(4) audit and state fiduci~ry accounts.". the last sentence and inserting in lieu there­ "(C) In the cases under subparagraphs SEC. 8. ELIMINATION OF DUPLICATE JUDICIAL FI­ of: "Information, records, and other materi­ and in which the hearing commissioner NANCIAL REPORTING REQUIREMENT. als furnished to or developed by the Com­ finds that there is a duty of support and the (a) TERMINATION OF FEDERAL DISCLOSURE mission in the performance of its duties individual owing that duty has been served REQUIREMENTs.-Section 303 of the Ethics in under this section shall be privileged and or given notice of the proceedings under any Government Act of 1978 <28 U.S.C. App. application statute or court rule, if that in­ 301) is amended by inserting at the end confidential. Section 552 of title 5, United dividual fails to appear or otherwise re­ thereof the following new subsection: States Code, shall not apply to any such a default order. apply to any judicial officer or employee of materials.". " A rehearing or review of the hearing the Superior Court of the District of Colum­ SEC. 11. MEETINGS OF THE JUDICIAL NOMINATION commissioner's findings in a case under sub­ bia or the District of Columbia Court of Ap­ COMMISSION. paragraphs and may be made by a peals.". Section 434 of the District of Colum­ judge of the Family Division sua sponte. (b) TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING AMEND­ bia Self-Government and Governmental Re­ The findings of the hearing commissioner MENT.-Section 308(9) of such Act <28 U.S.C. organization Act is amended by inserting at shall constitute a final order of the Superior App. 308(9)) is amended by striking out the end thereof "Meetings of the Commis­ Court.". "courts of the District of Columbia". sion may be closed to the public. Section 742 SEC. 4. APPOINTMENT OF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF SEC. 9. CERTIFICATION OF QUESTIONS OF LAW. of this Act shall not apply to meetings of THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA COURTS. Subchapter II of Chapter 7, title 11, Dis­ the Commission.". Section 11-1703 of title 11 of the District trict of Columbia Code, is amended by in­ SEC. 12. PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT OF JUDICIAL of Columbia Code is amended- serting after section 11-722 the following RECOMMENDATIONS. <1> by striking out subsection ; new section: Section 434(d) of the District of Columbia <2> by redesignating subsection as sub­ "§Sec. 11-723. Certification of Questions of Law. Self-Government and Governmental Reor­ section ; and "(a) The District of Columbia Court of ganization Act is amended by inserting at <3> by inserting after subsection the Appeals may answer questions of law certi­ the end thereof the following new para­ following new subsection: fied to it by the Supreme Court of the graph: "(b) The Executive Officer shall be ap­ United States, a Court of Appeals of the "(4) Upon submission to the President, pointed, and subject to removal, by the United States, or the highest appellate the name of any individual recommended Joint Committee on Judicial Administration court of any State, if there are involved in under this subsection shall be made public with the approval of the chief judges of the any proceeding before any such certifying by the Judicial Nomination Commission.". District of Columbia courts. In making such court questions of law of the District of Co­ SEC. 13. DISCLOSURE OF CERTAIN INFORMATION appointment the Joint Committee shall con­ lumbia which may be determinative of the TO THE JUDICIAL NOMINATION COM­ sider experience and special training in ad­ cause pending in such certifying court and MISSION. ministrative and executive positions and fa­ as to which it appears to the certifying Section 11-1528 of title 11, District of Co­ miliarity with court procedures. court there is no controlling precedent in lumbia Code, is amended by striking out all " The Executive Officer shall be a bona the decisions of the District of Columbia of subsection and inserting in lieu there­ fide resident of the District of Columbia or Court of Appeals. of the following: become a resident not more than 180 days "(b) This section may be invoked by an " Subject to paragraph <2>, the filing after the date of appointment.". order of any of the courts referred to in sub­ of papers with, and the giving of testimony SEC. 5. MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE OF JUDGES. section upon the court's motion or upon before, the Commission shall be privileged. Section 43l of the District of Columbia motion of any party to the cause. Subject to paragraph (2), heariHgs before Self-Government and Governmental Reor­ "(c) A certification order shall set forth the Commission, the record thereof, and ganization Act is amended by striking out <1 > the question of law to be answered; and materials and papers filed in connection "Seventy" and inserting in lieu thereof "sev­ <2> a statement of all facts relevant to the with such hearings shall be confidential. enty-four". questions certified and the nature of the "(2)(A) The judge whose conduct or SEC. 6. APPOINTMENT PANEL FOR THE BOARD OF controversy in which the questions arose. health is the subject of any proceedings TRUSTEES OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER " A certification order shall be pre­ under this subchapter may disclose or au­ SERVICE. pared by the certifying court and forwarded thorize the disclosure of any information (a) COMPOSITION OF APPOINTMENT PANEL.­ to the District of Columbia Court of Ap­ under paragraph <1>. Section 303 of the District of Columbia peals. The District of Columbia Court of " With respect to a prosecution of a Court Reform and Criminal Procedure Act Appeals may require the original or copies witness for perjury or on review of a deci­ of 1970 - the certifying court as are considered neces­ ings before the Commission and all papers <1> by striking out subparagraph ; and sary to a determination of the questions cer­ filed in connection with such hearing shall <2> by redesignating subparagraphs , tified to it. be disclosed to the extent required for such , , and as subparagraphs , , "< e > Fees and costs shall be the same as in prosecution or review. . and . respectively. appeals docketed before the District of Co­ "<2> by striking out cluded by statute or by order of the certify­ Nomination Commission any information "Chief Judge of the United States Court of ing court. under paragraph <1 > concerning any judge Appeals for the District of Columbia Cir­ "(f> The District of Columbia Court of Ap­ being considered by such nomination com­ cuit" and inserting in lieu thereof "Chief peals may prescribe the rules of procedure mission for elevation to the District of Co- 29216 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 lumbia Court of Appeals or for chief judge Page 13, line 14, strike out ""Commis­ A brief history of its development of a District of Columbia court.". sion" " and insert in lieu thereof " 'Commis­ are in order. In 1978, the District of SEC. 1-t. REAPPOINTMENT TO JUDICIAL OFFICE. sion'". Columbia Bar Association formed the Section 433 of the District of Columbia Page 5, strike out line 4 and all that fol­ Self-Government and Governmental Reor­ lows through line 8 on page 5 and insert in District of Columbia Court Study ganization Act is amended- lieu thereof the following: Committee. This committee in the first sentence by striking out "<1> Subject to paragraph (2), the find­ ly known as the Horsky Committee> "three months" and inserting in lieu thereof ings of the hearing commissioner shall con­ was charged with evaluating the Dis­ "six months"; and stitute a final order of the Superior Court. trict of Columbia Court Reform and <2> in the second sentence, by striking out "<2> A rehearing or review of the hearing Criminal Procedure Act of 1970 and "thirty" and inserting in lieu thereof commissioner's findings in a case under sub­ "sixty". paragraphs and may be made by a making appropriate recommendations SEC. 15. MODIFICATION OF JUDICIAL REAPPOINT­ judge of the Family Division sua sponte and for improving the judicial system. MENT EVALUATION CATEGORIES. shall be made upon a motion of one of the Over a 4-year period, the court study Section 433 of the District of Columbia parties, which motion shall be filed within committee conducted its mission. Cer­ Self-Government and Governmental Reor­ ten days after the judgment. An appeal to tain provisions in this bill represent ganization Act is amended in the third sen­ the District of Columbia Court of Appeals the committee's work product. tence by striking out "exceptionally well­ may be made only after a hearing is held in qualified or". the Superior Court." In sum, H.R. 3578 would create per­ manent authority for District of Co­ SEC. 16. SERVICES OF RETIRED JUDGES. Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I Section 11-1504 of title 11, District of lumbia hearing commissioners, elimi­ Columbia Code, is amended by striking out simply wish to explain briefly that the nate duplicate judicial financial re­ paragraphs <2> and <3> and inserting after committee amendments presented to porting, provide authority for the Dis­ paragraph <1) the following new paragraph: the body are perfecting amendments, "<2> At any time prior to or after retire­ and I ask that they be approved. trict of Columbia Court of Appeals to ment, a judge may request recommendation The SPEAKER pro tempore. The answer certain undecided questions of from the District of Columbia Commission question is on the committee amend­ District of Columbia law pending in on Judicial Disabilities and Tenure of the District of Colum­ Mr. Speaker, this bill makes certain ney to publish an annual report re­ bia Self-Government and Governmental Re­ changes in the local courts in Wash­ garding its District of Columbia crimi­ organization Act is amended by striking out ington, DC, suggested by local practi­ nal justice activity. Further, it would "thirty days" each place it appears and in­ tioners, officials, and the courts, and modify the appointment panel for the serting in lieu thereof "sixty days". Board of Trustees of the Public De­ SEC. 18. EFFECTIVE DATE. makes permanent authority for hear­ This Act shall take effect on the date of ing commissioners, authority which fender Service. the enactment of this Act. Congress has granted from year to These noncontroversial provisions year in appropriation bills. would further improve local judicial COIDII'l'TEE AMENDMENTS Hearings were held before our Sub­ nominat~on and tenure processes and The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the first committee committee on the Judiciary and Edu­ at the same time move the local gov­ amendment. cation chaired by the gentleman from ernment one step further toward self­ The Clerk read as follows: California [Mr. DYMALLY], with the government. Most important, it is esti­ ranking minority member being the mated that the bill would save the Committee amendment: Page 2, strike out line 3 and insert in lieu thereof "Judicial Ef­ distinguished gentleman from Virginia local government over $600,000 a year ficiency and Improvement Act of 1985' ." [Mr. BLILEY], each of whom will give a at no cost to the Federal Government. further explanation of the bill at the Mr. BLILEY. Mr. Speaker, I move to Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I ask appropriate time. unanimous consent that the commit­ strike the last word. tee amendments be considered en bloc, With the brief introductory set of Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the remarks, Mr. Speaker, I yield back the passage of H.R. 3578. This bill makes a considered as read, and printed in the balance of my time. RECORD. number of minor, but important and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is Mr. DYMALLY. Mr. Speaker, I move needed corrections in the procedures there objection to the request of the to strike the last word. and efficiency of the District of Co­ gentleman from California? Mr. Speaker, since the 98th Con­ lumbia courts. There was no objection. gress, the Subcommittee on Judiciary Mr. DYMALL Y, the chairman of the The remaining committee amend­ and Education has focused its atten­ Judiciary and Education Subcommit­ tion on improving the administration tee, was diligent in his efforts to craft ments are as follows: of Justice in the District of Columbia, Committee amendments: Page 7, line 6, a piece of valuable legislation that all strike out "subsection (b)(2)" and insert in and at the same time transferring to parties could agree to. I am pleased to lieu thereof "subsection (b)(l)". the District authority over its agen­ be able to lend my support to his ef­ Page 7, line 7, strike out "Chief Judge" cies, consistent with the legislative forts and to thank him for his biparti­ and insert in lieu thereof "chief judge". intent underlying the District of Co­ Page 8, line 5, strike out "Section 303" and lumbia Court Reform and Criminal san spirit. insert in lieu thereof "Section 301". Procedure Act of 1970 and the District Mr. Speaker, the minority members Page 8, line 16, insert "(a) IN GENERAL.-" of Columbia Self-Government Act and of the District of Columbia committee before "Subchapter II". Government Reorganization Act of support passage of H.R. 3578. Page 10, after line 11, insert the following new subsection: 1973, as amended. D 1235 (b) TECHNICAL AMENDMENT.-The table of This legislation emanates from these sections for such subchapter is amended by significant legislative developments. It Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I move adding at the end thereof the following new reflects both self-government consid­ the previous question on the bill. item: erations and the improvement and ef­ The previous question was ordered. " 11-723. Certification of questions of law. " ficiency of the local judicial system. The bill was ordered to be engrossed Page 12, line 22, strike out "second" and The bill itself evolves from recommen­ and read a third time, and was read insert in lieu thereof "third". dations of the District of Columbia the third time, and passed and a Page 13, line 5, strike out "third" and Court Study Committee and the Dis­ motion to reconsider was laid on the insert in lieu thereof "fourth". trict of Columbia courts. table. October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29217 GENERAL LEAVE stead of being incorporated into a con­ State, or an interstate governmental agency Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I ask tinuing resolution. may receive, in accordance with this subsec­ unanimous consent that all members tion and in lieu of overtime compensation, may have 5legislative days in which to compensatory time off at a rate not less GREAT FINISH OF 1985 WORLD than one and one-half hours for each hour revise and extend their remarks on the SERIES bill just passed. of employment for which overtime compen­ only- gentleman from California? House for 1 minute.) " pursuant to- There was no objection. Mrs. MEYERS of Kansas. Mr. "(i) applicable provisions of a collective Speaker on behalf of the Kansas City bargaining agreement between the public Royals, and the people of the Third agency and representatives of such employ­ H.R. 2965 District of Kansas, I am here to ees; or in the case of employees not covered given permission to address the House The headline in this morning's by subclause (i), an agreement or under­ for 1 minute and to revise and extend Kansas City Times says it all-You standing arrived at between the employer his remarks.) Gotta Love It! and employee before the performance of Now, you are looking at George the work; and Mr. SMITH of Iowa. Mr. Speaker, I " if the employee has not accrued com­ would like to make the Members of Brett's Congresswoman. And also I pensatory time in excess of the limit appli­ the House aware of an unfortunate set have some other Royal constituents cable to the employee prescribed by para­ of circumstances in the other body who are now household names. Buddy graph <3>. concerning H.R. 2965, the fiscal year Biancalana, Bret Saberhagen, Dane In the case of employees described in clause 1986 appropriations bill for the De­ Iorg, Danny Jackson, Bud Black, hired prior to April15, 1986 the regu­ partments of Commerce, Justice and Charlie Liebrandt, Darrell Motley, Jim lar practice in effect on April 15, 1986, with State, the Judiciary and Related Agen­ Sundberg, and Dan Quisenberry. respect to compensatory time off for such cies. The House passed this bill July After losing the first two games at employees in lieu of the receipt of overtime 17, leaving the other body ample time home, and down 3 to 1 in the series, compensation, shall constitute an agree­ to act and for the two Houses to go to the Royals became the first team in ment or understanding under such clause conference and send the bill to the history to bounce back from such a . Except as provided in the previous President prior to the beginning of the deficit and win the World Series. Obvi­ sentence, the provision of compensatory fiscal year. The bill was reported out time off to such employees for hours ously, the Kansas City Royals can worked after April 14, 1986, shall be in ac­ of the Senate committee on October 4, teach us a thing or two about over­ cordance with this subsection. 4 days into the new fiscal year. The coming deficits. " <3> If the work of an employee for bill is now bogged down on an extrane­ It's a great day for Kansas City, for which compensatory time may be provided ous issue that has nothing to do with the State of Missouri, and for many of included work in a public safety activity, an the provision of funds for law enforce­ us in Kansas and for the entire Nation emergency response activity, or a seasonal ment, drug enforcement, dealing with as the curtain finally comes down on activity, the employee engaged in such work terrorist activities, and numerous im­ what has been a truly great finish of may accrue not more than 480 hours of portant programs in the Commerce the 1985 World Series. compensatory time for hours worked after and State Departments and other April 15, 1986. If such work was any other agencies. I understand that the bill work, the employee engaged in such work may not come up again in the other FAIR LABOR STANDARDS may accrue not more than 180 hours of body unless this matter can be re­ AMENDMENTS OF 1985 compensatory time for hours worked after April 15, 1986. Any such employee who, solved. Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, I move after April 15, 1986, has accrued 480 or 180 The bill the Senate committee re­ to suspend the rules and pass the bill hours, as the case may be, of compensatory ported not only provides for programs shall, upon termina­ because of this totally extraneous The Clerk read as follows: tion of employment, be paid for the unused item, these matters will have to be H.R. 3530 compensatory time at a rate not less than worked out with all the others in the Be it enacted by the Senate and House of the average regular rate received by such context of the continuing resolution. Representatives of the United States of employee during the last 3 years of the em­ If this bill is conferenced in the con­ America in Congress assembled, ployee's employment. tinuing resolution, I can assure the SHORT TITLE; REFERENCE TO ACT "(5) An employee of a public agency Members of the other body that it will which is a State, political subdivision of a SECTION 1. (a) SHORT TITLE.-This Act may State, or an interstate governmental be very difficult for the individual be cited as the "Fair Labor Standards projects put into such legislation by agency- Amendments of 1985". " who has accrued compensatory time amendment or referenced in the (b) REFERENCE TO ACT.-Whenever in this off authorized to be provided under para­ Senate-reported bill to receive a favor­ Act an amendment or repeal is expressed in graph <1), and able consideration that they might terms of an amendment to, or repeal of, a "(B) who has requested the use of such otherwise receive if we had an oppor­ section or other provision, the reference compensatory time, shall be permitted by shall be considered to be a reference to a the employee's employer to use such time tunity to go to conference on the indi­ section or other provision of the Fair Labor vidual bill. That is not a threat. It is Standards Act of 1938. within a reasonable period after making the just a plain fact that Members of the request if the use of the compensatory time House and Members of the other COMPENSATORY TIME does not unduly disrupt the operations of SEC. 2. (a) COMPENSATORY TIME.-Section 7 the public agency. body, the departments and agencies <29 U.S.C. 207) is amended by adding at the "<6> For purposes of this subsection- involved and the American taxpayers end the following: " the term 'overtime compensation' are all much better served if this bill is "(o)(l) Employees of a public agency means the compensation required by subsec­ passed separately in conference, in- which is a State, a political subdivision of a tion . and 29218 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 " the terms 'compensatory time' and which is in a different capacity from any ca­ STATE AND LOCAL LEGISLATIVE EMPLOYEES 'compensatory time off' means hours during pacity in which the employee is regularly SEc. 5. Clause of section 3<2> <29 which an employee is not working, which employed with the public agency, the hours U.S.C. 203<2>, for purposes of overtime compensation, and by the public agency in the calculation of <2> by striking out "who" in subclause for which the employee is compensated at the hours for which the employee is entitled . the employee's regular rate.". to overtime compensation under this sec­ <3> by striking out the period at the end of (b) EXISTING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING tion.". subclause and inserting in lieu thereof AGREEMENTs.-A collective bargaining agree­ (C) SUBSTITUTION.-0) Section 7(p) (29 ",or", and ' ment which is in effect on April 15, 1986, U.S.C. 207), as amended by subsection (b), is <4> by adding after subclause the fol­ and which permits compensatory time off in amended by adding at the end of following: lowing: lieu of overtime compensation shall remain "(3) If an individual who- " is an employee in the legislative in effect until its expiration date unless oth­ " is employed by a public agency which branch or legislative body of that State, po­ erwise modified, except that compensatory is a State, political subdivision of a State, or litical subdivision, or agency and is not em­ time shall be provided after April 14, 1986, an interstate governmental agency, and ployed by the legislative library of such in accordance with section 7 of the Fair " is employed in fire protection or law State, political subdivision, or agency.". Labor Standards Act of 1938 of ties, the hours such employee worked as a EFFECT OF AMENDMENTS such Act occurring before April 15, 1986, substitute shall be excluded by the public with respect to any employee of the State, agency in the calculation of the hours for SEc. 7. The amendments made by this Act political subdivision, or agency who would which the employee is entitled to overtime shall not affect whether a public agency not have been covered by such Act under compensation under this section.". which is a State, political subdivision of a the Secretary of Labor's special enforce­ <2> Section ll (29 U.S.C. 211 A State, political subdivision of a 7

<3> may not be required under this sub­ April 15, 1986, with respect to any employee State, or interstate governmental agency section to keep a record of the hours of the of such public agency who would have been may defer until August 1, 1986, the payment substitute work.". covered by such Act under the Secretary of of monetary overtime compensation under VOLUNTEERS Labor's special enforcement policy on Janu­ section 7 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of ary 1, 1985, and published in section 775.3 of SEC. 4. (a) DEFINITION.-Section 3(e) (29 title 29 of the Code of Federal Regulations. 1938 for hours worked after April 14, 1986. U.S.C. 203(e)) is amended- SPECIAL DETAILS, OCCASIONAL OR SPORADIC (1) by striking out "paragraphs <2> and DISCRIMINATION EMPLOYMENT, AND SUBSTITUTION (3)" in paragraph (1) and inserting in lieu SEc. 8. A public agency which is a State, SEC. 3. SPECIAL DETAIL WoRK FOR FIRE thereof "paragraphs <2>, (3), and (4)", and political subdivision of a State, or an inter­ PROTECTION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT EMl'LOY­ <2> by adding at the end the following: state governmental agency and which dis­ EES.-Section 7 <29 U.S.C. 207> is amended "<4> The term 'employee' does not in­ criminates or has discriminated against an by adding after subsection (added by sec­ clude any individual who volunteers to per- employee with respect to the employee's tion 2> the following: form services for a public agency which is a wages or other terms or conditions of em­ "(p)(l) If an individual who is employed State, a political subdivision of a State, or ployment because on or after February 19, by a State, political subdivision of a State, an interstate governmental agency, if- 1985, the employee asserted coverage under or an interstate governmental agency in fire "(i) the individual receives no compensa­ section 7 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of protection or law enforcement activities <3> of such Act. correctional institutions> and who, solely at which the individual volunteered; and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is a such individual's option, agrees to be em­ " such services are not the same type of ployed on a special detail by a separate or services which the individual is employed to second demanded? independent employer in fire protection, perform for such public agency. Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, I law enforcement, or related activities, the " An employee of a public agency demand a second. hours such individual was employed by such which is a State, political subdivision of a The SPEAKER pro tempore. With­ separate and independent employer shall be State, or an interstate governmental agency out objection, a second will be consid­ excluded by the public agency employing may volunteer to perform services for any ered as ordered. such individual in the calculation of the other State, political subdivision, or inter­ There was no objection. hours for which the employee is entitled to state governmental agency, including a The SPEAKER pro tempore. The overtime compensation under this section if State, political subdivision or agency with the public agency- which the employing State, political subdi­ gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. " requires that its employees engaged vision, or agency has a mutual aid agree­ MURPHY] will be recognized for 20 in fire protection, law enforcement, or secu­ ment.". minutes and the gentleman from Ver­ rity activities be hired by a separate and in­ (b) REGULATIONS.-Not later than March mont [Mr. JEFFORDS] will be recog­ dependent employer to perform the special 15, 1986, the Secretary of Labor shall issue nized for 20 minutes. detail, regulations to carry out paragraph <4> of The Chair recognizes the gentleman " facilitates the employment of such section 3 from Pennsylvania [Mr. MURPHY]. employees by a separate and independent of this section>. Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, I yield employer, or (C) CURRENT PRACTICE.-If, before April 15, " otherwise affects the condition of 1986, the practice of a public agency was to myself such time as I may consume. employment of such employees by a sepa­ treat certain individuals as volunteers, such Mr. Speaker, since the Supreme rate and independent employer.". individuals shall until April 15, 1986, be con­ Court's decision earlier this year in (b) OCCASIONAL OR SPORADIC EMPLOY­ sidered, for purposes of the Fair Labor Garcia versus San Antonio Metropoli­ MENT.-Section 7(p) <20 U.S.C. 207>, as added Standards Act of 1938, as volunteers and not tan Transit Authority, which held by subsection , is amended by adding at as employees. No public agency which is a that the Congress had the authority the end the following: State, or political subdivision of a State, or in a 1974 act to extend the Fair Labor "<2> If an employee of a public agency an interstate governmental agency shall be Standards Act to State and local gov­ which is a State, political subdivision of a liable for a violation of section 6 occurring State, or an interstate governmental agency before April 15, 1986, with respect to serv­ ernment employees, there has been a undertakes, on an occasional or sporadic ices deemed by that agency to have been great deal of concern, uncertainty, and basis and solely at the employee's option, performed for it by an individual on a vol­ confusion on this part of State and part-time employment for the public agency untary basis. local government officials and their October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29219 employees as to how this act would what we refer to as comp-time as pay­ The provisions of this bill ensure that affect their ability to provide essential ment for overtime hours worked, but governments will be able both to services to the public. provides that comp-time must be gauge their overtime costs and budget Initial concerns focused mainly on awarded at time and one-half, in keep­ for them. Fortunately, the April 1986 the possible budgetary impact of com­ ing with the act's requirements for effective date of the bill will give Ver­ pliance with the act and the potential cash overtime. This measure recog­ mont's towns and communities across loss of flexibility necessary to effec­ nizes the joint employment and occa­ the State the opportunity to debate tively deal with the various needs of sional employment situations which and decide these issues during their the public. The Committee on Educa­ currently exist in many municipalities town meetings in March. tion and Labor, as well as many Mem­ to the satisfaction of both the public While large cities or States with ex­ bers of the House, shared this concern, agency and the employees, and per­ tensive personnel departments may arid our subcommittee sought to estab­ mits them to continue within the find it easy to administer the act-and lish a clear understanding of the mag­ framework of the act. Also, this meas­ I'm not sure even they will-the towns nitude of the costs involved. We ure clarifies the definition of volun­ sought to ensure that those State and teers under the act, and I believe and cities in my State have had and local officials understood the sub­ greatly eliminates the concerns of continue to have difficulty in comply­ stance of the act and how much flexi­ many parties. ing with its provisions. I hope this bill bility it allows in administering local In addition, this measure will elimi­ will make that task somewhat easier. government activities. nate the liability which many Under the legislation before us, em­ I would like to thank all of the mem­ municipalities have incurred since the ployers and employees would be able bers of the Committee on Education Court's decision. The subcommittee to agree to use compensatory time, and Labor, and of the Subcommittee recognized that the sudden change in either in lieu of or in conjunction with on Labor Standards, which I chair, for employment requirements placed the the overtime pay now required by the their involvement in reaching this municipalities in a difficult economic Fair Labor Standards. Act. This agree­ compromise. situation. The phase-in provision is ment could be as formal as a collective I want to thank the members of or­ consistent with previous congressional bargaining agreement, or as informal ganized labor representing the munici­ action that has expanded the act's cov­ as a past, unwritten practice of provid­ pal employees. I would like to thank erage since 1938. Therefore, this meas­ ing compensatory time. Where no the representatives of all the local gov­ ure would eliminate liability for viola­ mutual agreement exists, an employer ernment associations and the State tions of sections 7 and 11 of the act could decide to offer compensatory legislative bodies for working and toil­ prior to April 15, 1986, next April. time and would be required to notify ing so many hours among themselves, I believe that this measure correctly employees prior to their performance together with Members of Congress, responds to the concerns of the Mem­ of overtime work. to frame this compromise. I would also bers of the House, and the thousands Accrued compensatory time would like to thank the many Members of of State and local government officials be limited, largely as a protection for this House who took such an active in­ nationwide and their employees. I employees. Unlike many current ar­ terest in this issue and greatly assisted urge the Members of this House to rangements, compensatory time would the committee through the legislative support this measure ensuring that not have to be cashed out on an suggestions that they made. This legis­ the protections of the act can be ex­ annual or biannual basis, but would be lation is the result of all of the bills in­ tended to municipal workers without in an ongoing bank. This bank would troduced in the wake of the Garcia de­ unduly threatening municipal services. be subject to caps, of 480 and 180 cision, and I believe is the consensus of Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, I hours, depending on the type of em­ what those bills sought to achieve. yield myself such time as I may con­ ployee. Unlike H.R. 3530, the bill The members of the Subcommittee sume. passed by the other body contains a on Labor Standards became convinced 0 1250 single 480-hour cap. Overtime in that although the costs of compliance excess of the caps would be permitted, were unlikely to be as high as some of Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, the but would have to be paid in cash the early estimates, some increased bill before us is the product of coop­ rather than compensatory time. costs were sure to occur. More impor­ eration and compromise; compromise Within the limits set by the bill, em­ tantly, the unique responsibilities of on the part of the public employer and ployers and employees would be free public agencies required special con­ employee interests, and cooperation to design or maintain their own com­ sideration. The measure before this on the part of many Members who pensatory time systems. House reflects that belief, and correct­ hold strong and sincere beliefs on how, In this bill we have tried to accom­ ly addresses the concerns of the local and even whether, we should respond officials while also ensuring that their to the Supreme Court's Garcia deci­ modate the needs of local government, public employees continue to enjoy sion. I hope this spirit of cooperation its citizens and its employees. We rec­ the basic protections of the act. and compromise continues. ognize and sanction voluntarism, In considering this issue, it was es­ The provisions of this bill bring which is obviously much more preva­ sential that the particular needs and much needed flexibility to the applica­ lent and vital to the public sector than circumstances of the States and their tion of the Fair Labor Standards Act the private. And we recognize special political subdivisions be carefully to State and local employees and em­ detail, occasional, and substitute em­ weighed and fairly accommodated. As ployers. In my State, as in many ployment-all common practices in the the Supreme Court stated in Garcia, others, employers and employees have public sector. "the States occupy a special position found many practices, notably the use At the same time, we have been care­ in our constitutional system." The of compensatory time, to be mutually ful to maintain the employee protec­ committee recognized that State and beneficial. In fact, the Vermont State tions that are a fundamental part of local governments, unlike other em­ Employees Association elicited tre­ the Fair Labor Standards Act. Com­ ployers, have special responsibilities in mendous support for a petition seek­ pensatory time must be paid at a pre­ promoting the public good. In report­ ing the continued availability of com­ mium rate. Liability for violations af­ ing this bill, the committee has sought pensatory time in lieu of overtime fecting nontraditional employees, who to discharge that responsibility and to wages. have been covered by the Fair Labor further the principles of cooperative At the same time, towns and taxpay­ Standards Act since the Supreme federalism. ers alike have been concerned that the Court's National League of Cities This measure will permit State and Garcia decision will imposed substan­ against Usery decision, continues. And local governments to continue to use tial, unexpected labor costs on them. the status of some workers under that 29220 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 decision, which is being litigated in our sentatives, particularly the Vermont amendments. I want to congratulate courts, remains unaffected. League of Cities and Towns, the Ver­ and commend the chairman of our The bill prohibits an employer from mont State Employees Association, Subcommittee on Labor Standards, discriminating against an individual the State Officer of Personnel, and Mr. MURPHY, for his leadership in pro­ simply because an individual asserted the American Federation of State, ceeding expeditiously with this legisla­ coverage under the Fair Labor Stand­ County and Municipal Employees. tion. I want to express special appre­ ards Act in the wake of the Garcia de­ I also want to thank Secretary of ciation to the ranking subcommittee cision. For example, if an employee or Labor Bill Brock who, with his staff, member, Mr. PETRI, and the ranking several employees stepped forward has greatly assisted us. Finally, I want member of the full committee, Mr. and asked for overtime pay, and their to thank my colleagues. Although this JEFFORDS, who, throughout consider­ employer responded by demoting, dis­ bill differs from the dozen or so bills ation of this legislation, have been charging, or otherwise discriminating that were introduced in the House on most helpful and supportive. Also, against them, and not their colleagues, ths subject, it owes its inception in mention should be made of the assist­ the aggrieved individuals could seek large part to the efforts of those Mem­ relief. Although initially troubled by bers who have been actively working ance Mr. BARTLETT rendered in the ne­ the language of section 8, it was with to solve this issue for the past 8 gotiations which produced this excel­ this understanding that the public em­ months. My colleagues on the Labor lent compromise. ployer representatives who were party Standards Subcommittee, Mr. PETRI The bill also has been endorsed by to the negotiations leading to this leg­ and Mr. BARTLETT, have likewise been the National Association of Counties, islation agreed to support the lan­ vital to this process. Subcommittee the National Conference of State Leg­ guage. It was not intended, and must Chairman MuRPHY has shown solid islators, the National League of Cities, not be construed, as some sort of ellip­ leadership. And Chairman HAWKINS and the U.S. Conference of Mayors. tical hold harmless formula for em­ has shown solid leadership. And Chair­ These associations have said that the ployees' wage rates. man HAWKINS has been typically fair bill "maintains the principles of the It is my understanding that several and thoughtful. Fair Labor Standards Act and at the public employers have chosen to Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to same time recognizes the special cir­ reduce their employees' wages across give this bill their resounding support. cumstances faced by public employers the board in response to the Garcia Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, I yield and public employees." The AFL-CIO decision. The reasons for such a choice 2 minutes to the chairman of the full supports the bill, saying that "it pre­ may be several, but clearly one of Committee on Education and Labor, serves the integrity of the Fair Labor them is economic. If a city or State is the gentleman from California [Mr. Standards Act which is so vital to the operating with limited resources and is HAWKINS], who was extremely helpful interests of employees while address­ suddenly faced with new, unexpected in guiding the first major bill through ing the concerns of public employers." overtime costs and requirements, it my subcommittee since I became one H.R. 3530 is a direct legislative re­ may reasonably come to the conclu­ of his subcommittee chairmen. sponse to the issues raised in the Su­ sion that it must reduce its regular Mr. HAWKINS. I thank the gentle­ preme Court decision in Garcia versus rate of pay so as to maintain the level man for yielding this time to me. San Antonio Metropolitan Transit Au­ of its payroll when overtime costs are Mr. Speaker, today we bring to the thority. Had the decision been imple­ added into that payroll. Obviously this House a bill which will remove a po­ mented, State and local governments is a drastic step. It is one that I would tential financial burden from States would have had to make drastic hor»e no employer would have to un­ and localities, yet preserve labor changes in employment policies and dertake. However, I do not believe that standards protections for the employ­ practices, as well as the utilization of anything within this bill precludes ees of those entities. The bill, H.R. volunteer services. In addition, many this response to the Garcia decision. I 3530, has the bipartisan support of the States and localities would have had to would be happy to yield to any members of the Committee on Educa­ assume a retroactive financial liability, Member who has a different view. tion and Labor, having been ordered because they engaged in an employ­ Mr. Speaker, let me conclude by reported by a unanimous voice vote. ment practice-generally preferred by saying that this legislation represents The legislation amends the Fair Labor employees in certain highly stressful Congress at just about its best. The Standards Act [FLSA] by modifying jobs-of granting compensatory time basic rationale for overruling the Na­ the overtime provisions of the act to in lieu of monetary compensation for tional League of Cities against Usery give public employers, in agreement overtime hours worked. This certainly decision was the fact that the distinc­ with their employees, a choice of tion between traditional and nontradi­ either granting compensatory time or would have been the case in the Los tional is unworkable and that limita­ paying monetary compensation for Angeles area where, as my colleagues tions on the Congress' commerce overtime worked. The bill provides know, we have a somewhat unique sit­ power with respect to State and local flexibility in other areas such as joint uation of recurring seasonal disasters. governments lay not in the lOth employment and the use of volunteer such as fires. which take their toll on amendment but in the workings of the services. In addition, the bill removes our emergency response personnel, not Federal Government, and particularly potential retroactive liability for the to mention the pocketbooks of our the Congress. This latter aspect of the payment of overtime compensation as taxpayers. decision was not very comforting to required under existing provisions of Shortly after the Garcia decision. I those people who take a dim view of the FLSA. This !s most important to received numerous calls and communi­ Congress. However, in this instance, at the fiscal concerns of States and local­ cations from civic leaders in Los Ange­ least, we may prove the doubters ities. les seeking relief from the potential wrong. We have met a real problem H.R. 3530 is nearly identical to a burden of FLSA overtime coverage, with a real solution, and will do so in a measure approved in the other body and asking for a legislative remedy tir.lely fashion. We have listened to a by voice vote on Thursday, October 24. which would recognize their special broad range of interests, and have The close similarity of the bills is due problems and customary employment adopted the best suggestions of each. to the bipartisan cooperation of Mem­ practices. On a personal note, I am very grate­ bers in both Houses of the Congress. I am pleased that today I can recom­ ful to the dozens and dozens of State The Members who were involved in mend to the House a measure which and local employees and officials from the legislative process, particularly accommodates not only the particular Vermont who have taken the time to those in leadership roles, deserve the circumstances in my home area, but give me their views on this issue. The thanks and appreciation of all the par­ the operations of States and localities same, of course, holds for their repre- ties who will be affected by these throughout the Nation. October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29221 The bill accommodates States and allocations, particularly as they relate which can't even balance its budget, localities by allowing the continuation to police and fire personnel. Further­ steps in and orders them to abrogate of a widespread practice of granting more, actual payment of monetary standing contracts in favor of more compensatory time off for overtime overtime may be delayed until August costly alternatives. hours worked, yet protects the prefer­ 1, 1986, in recognition of the fact that If I might quote from a recent letter ences of employees regarding the utili­ the fiscal years of State and local gov­ I received from the village president of zation of the compensatory time. After ernments are not uniform. Also, in rec­ Black Creek, WI: the effective date of the amendments, ognition of pending litigation, the bill It would greatly increase costs for Wiscon­ employees may receive, in lieu of over­ does not affect whether employees of sin's already tax-burdened urban communi­ time compensation, compensatory State and local governments who are ties. In Black Creek alone, population 1,097, time at the rate of not less than 1.5 engaged in nontraditional functions, this provision could amount to well over a hours of compensatory time for each as defined by the Secretary of Labor, $5,000-a-year increase in costs or a severe hour of overtime worked. The offering are covered prior to April 15, 1986. cutback in services. of compensatory time must be gov­ Mr. Speaker, overall, this legislation This has become a pressing fiscal erned by a collective bargaining agree­ represents a reasonable resolution to issue for subunits of government. ment or some other agreement or un­ some difficult and complex employ­ State and local entities across the derstanding between the employer and ment problems that were raised by the United States, big and small alike, will the employees, or the employees' se­ Garcia decision. It will give States and · face an exorbitant increase in costs. lected representative, before the per­ localities the flexibility they need to Services will have to be cut. Taxpayers formance of the overtime work, or operate, and provide public employees will suffer unnecessarily. with prior notice to the employees. No with meaningful FLSA protection. It I represent a rural district and I am more than 480 hours of compensatory also provides flexibility in other areas particularly concerned that the "re­ time may be accrued by employees en­ such as volunteer services and the an­ definition" of volunteers will make gaged in public safety, emergency re­ cillary activities and work of public them too costly to use. We would be sponse, or seasonal work. For all other employees. More importantly, it will forced to neglect a vital resource at a employees, the limit is 180 hours. An prevent any undue hardships being time when we need it most. employee must be permitted to use re­ placed upon State and local govern­ It comes down to Federal Govern­ quested compensatory time within a ments. Yet it will maintain wage and reasonable time after making a re­ hour standards for the employees who ment interference in a State and local quest unless use of the compensatory perform the necessary, and often life­ matter. State and local governments time would unduly disrupt the oper­ threatening, services for those juris­ long ago came up with a unique ations of the employer. dictions. I wholeheartedly recommend method to suit their peculiar needs The bill also accommodates several this legislation to the House, and urge and to fill the services required of customary employment practices its unanimous adoption. them. We should allow them to con­ which have proved beneficial to both Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, I tinue this role unhindered. This legis­ employers and employees, and relieves yield 8 minutes to the gentleman from lation represents a commitment to fed­ employers from the overtime penalty Texas [Mr. BARTLETT]. eralism because it returns to State and that would otherwise be applicable. Mr. ROTH. Mr. Speaker, will the local governments responsibilities Among these are special detail work gentleman yield? which are rightfully theirs. and other occasional or sporadic work Mr. BARTLETT. I yield to the gen­ Congress must stand tall on this by public employees. tleman from Wisconsin. matter. I commend the members of Another matter which governmental Mr. ROTH. Mr. Speaker, I want to the Education and Labor Committee entities wanted clarified and which compliment all the Members who have for putting this bill on a fast track. I the bill accommodates, is the wide­ worked so hard on this particular urge my colleagues to follow the bipar­ spread use of volunteers. The bill ex­ piece of legislation on both sides of tisan lead of the committee and sup­ pands and codifies existing regulations the aisle. port H.R. 3530. by providing that even if an individual Ever since February 19 when the Su­ Mr. BARTLETT. I thank the gentle­ receives reasonable benefits or a nomi­ preme Court ruled in Garcia versus man for his kind words, and perhaps nal fee, or a combination of both, for San Antonio Metropolitan Transit Au­ we will start a new trend with this leg­ services performed, the individual will thority, we have known action must be islation in Congress for the rest of the still be considered a volunteer. Also, a taken by Congress. It is our duty to session. public employee may provide volun­ act responsibly and quickly to ensure Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support teer services for a different public em­ continued flexibility in State and local of H.R. 3530. Let me begin by com­ ployer, or for the employee's own em­ employment practices. I strongly sup­ mending the extraordinary efforts ploying agency but in a different job port H.R. 3530, which would rectify that have been made in a bipartisan capacity. the current situation. way on this bill by members of the Finally, the bill removes a liability This legislation is a fair compromise Committee on Education and Labor that could have been imposed pursu­ that recognizes the unique role of and, indeed, by a large number of ant to the Garcia decision because em­ State and local governments in provid­ Members of Congress on both sides of ployers relied on a previous Supreme ing services and the need for flexibil­ the aisle. In particular, the chairman Court ruling-National League of ity in compensating employees. Con­ of the Committee on Education and Cities versus Usery-which exempted gress has the opportunity today to Labor, the gentleman from California them from FLSA coverage. States and take a meaningful stance, not just a [Mr. HAWKINS] has been extraordi­ localities engaged in traditional gov­ symbolic gesture, to stop the en­ nary in his fairness and his evenhan­ ernmental functions such as schools, croachment of Federal regulations dedness in his efforts to bring this bill hospitals, fire prevention, police pro­ where they serve no useful purpose. to the floor, and the subcommittee tection, sanitation, public health, Without this legislation, the Depart­ chairman, the gentleman from Penn­ parks and recreation, libraries, muse­ ment of Labor will shortly start en­ sylvania [Mr. MuRPHY], for whom I ums, and so forth, are relieved of over­ forcing compliance to the Supreme have a great deal of respect, who was time liability until April 15, 1986. This Court ruling. I have heard from a instrumental in the success of the pas­ gives those entities 5 1/2 months to number of towns and cities through­ sage of this legislation, together with adjust to the requirements of the out my district in Northeast Wiscon­ the ranking Republican on the Com­ FLSA, as modified by this legislation, sin. I strongly sympathize with their mittee on Education and Labor, the and to make any necessary manage­ plight. As they try to balance their gentleman from Vermont [Mr. JEF­ ment decisions as to future personnel own budgets, the Federal Government, FORDS], and the ranking Republican on 29222 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 the subcommittee, the gentleman layoffs and others are considering help the people that needed help in from Wisconsin [Mr. PETRI]. similar action. this airline tragedy. It has been through that good will Mr. Speaker, the city of Fort Worth His deputies looked at the sheriff we have arrived at a reasonable and estimated that their cost would be and said: "Sheriff, if the Garcia deci­ equitable solution today that is equita­ $980,000, and in Garland, TX, $200,000 sion, whatever that is, if the Federal ble for all persons involved. There was to $400,000, in Irving, $746,000, in Government says that as a deputy potential on this issue all along for re­ Amarillo, $790,000, and that is after a sheriff, and as a human being, I sulting in a great deal of disruption reduction of personnel hours. cannot come to this airport and help and a lack of agreement, and there So this bill provides for the rights people who need my help, then you was the potential always that Con­ both of public employees and of tax­ can take my badge and my resignation gress would choose to do nothing, and payers who pay the tab. right now." As one deputy put it, choosing to do nothing would have Mr. Speaker, it might be helpful just "People need help, and I am here to been very disruptive to the lives of to detail a few of the major provisions help them." public employees and taxpayers of this bill. First, it provides that com­ I took that mandate to heart, as I around this country. pensatory in lieu of overtime wages for think many Members of Congress did. It is to the credit of the gentleman State and local employees would be Public employees are in public service on both sides of the aisle that Con­ permitted under the FLSA. That because they want to help people. gress has chosen to take reasonable would be authorized either by collec­ Congress, by the enactment of H.R. steps forward. tive bargaining agreement or by any 3530, will allow that service to contin­ I also would take a minute to com­ sort of memorandum of understand­ ue to happen. mend the various people who have ing, including simply an employee no­ I thank the gentleman for yielding. been involved in this legislation from tification at the time of hiring. It is Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, during around the country and from Texas: provided at the rate of 1 ¥2 hours for the days of pressure in September and The Texas Municipal League, the Na­ each hour worked. October when so many Congressmen tional League of Cities, various em­ 0 1300 from around the country were being ployee groups, both union and non­ pressured on this issue, we reached out union, around this country who have It provides for an effective date to many Members of Congress, and contributed to the action we take which would allow employers time to the Appropriations Committee and its today. develop adequate procedures and real­ chairman were so helpful, we reached It seems to me that today's bill in istic budgets so the liability would not out to many other Members of Con­ H.R. 3530 provides for the rights of begin until April 15, 1986. gress to ask us to preserve the jurisdic­ two groups of people. No. 1, it provides The bill would specify that a public tion of the Education and Labor Com­ for a restoration of the rights of employer may not discriminate against mittee. This was our problem, we were public employees who have been ac­ an employee who has asserted the wrestling with it. customed to traditional rights as right to coverage under the Fair Labor We did come up with a solution, and public employees that would have Standards Act, but the bill does not I want to say that one of the gentle­ been denied to them by Garcia, and it address at all those actions taken to men we reached out to, and he assisted also is combined with the rights of comply with Garcia which do not us in his efforts with other members taxpayers to municipal services and to relate to discrimination, and I think of the committee so that our commit­ being able to set their own priorities. that is an important point. tee could complete its work, was the Public employees have had the tradi­ The bill provides for exemptions gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. tional rights of compensatory time, from overtime provisions under cer­ JONES]. volunteer time, and trading shifts. I tain precise details for volunteers, Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the have heard, as every Member has, I whether it is within the same agency gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. think, from public employees from or in a different agency so long as the around this country, from police offi­ service is not the same as the regular JONES]. cers and firefighters, who would say, Mr. JONES of Oklahoma. Mr. work performed in their regular job. Speaker, action today on H.R. 3530 "We very much want to retain that It provides that law enforcement right to be compensated with compen­ personnel and firefighters who volun­ marks an historic achievement by satory time off later in exchange for tarily agree to special detail assign­ State and local governments, labor or­ overtime work that we do today." I ments, or who wish to trade shifts ganizations, other non-Federal public heard from State workers in a mental would be permitted to do that. agencies, and Congress. health hospital who have gotten ac­ It provides that public employees The very fact that we have a bill customed to and who want to continue who voluntarily agree to work in a dif­ before us today defies the wisdom of to provide volunteer work on the ferent capacity from their regular jobs pundits who just a month ago saw in­ weekends for the benefit of their cli­ be permitted to do that. surmountable rifts between public ents and the patients at that State This in so many ways adds to the agencies and their employees, between hospital, and this bill provides for rights of public employees. ideologues on the two extremes of the those rights to continue. Mr. Speaker, in conclusion, I would political spectrum, between the rights We also, I think, are all familiar relate a story. There was a tragic air­ of the American taxpayer and the with the rights of taxpayers. Had this line accident in the city of Dallas at rights of the public employee. bill not been passed, the taxpayers for DFW Airport this summer right in the Through the determined leadership State and municipal governments middle of the Garcia controversy in of employee organizations and the around this country would have been Dallas County. There were over 100 State and local government associa­ socked with bigger bills, with lowered fatalities involved. The sheriff of tions, and through the laudable flexi­ services, and no one would have won. Dallas County tells me he went out to bility exhibited by Labor Secretary It is estimated that some $2 to $3 bil­ the airline tragedy and found his dep­ Bill Brock, who worked very closely lion in budget adjustments would have uties, who had at that point voluntari­ with the States to reach today's result, been made total around this country. ly arrived on the scene to help take the apparently insurmountable obsta­ In the city of Dallas, alone, the tab care of some 34 seriously injured per­ cles were overcome. would have been $1.6 million in addi­ sonnel, and to help with that tragedy. Finally, I want to thank the chair­ tional costs, with no additional serv­ And he had the unfortunate job of man of the subcommittee, the gentle­ ices; in fact, with reduced services. telling his deputies, face to face, one man from Pennsylvania [Mr. MuRPHY] Some cities were required to institute to one, that they could not continue to for all the assistance he afforded me October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29223 after I drafted the Oklahoma delega­ OCTOBER 17, 1985. course of his daily employment inquir­ tion's Garcia bill. Mr. AUSTIN J. MURPHY, ing about his rights, that no retaliato­ We introduced the bill on October 2, Chairman, Subcommittee on Labor Stand­ ry action should be taken. And we ards, Rayburn House Office Building, and within a week the chairman's Washington, DC. think now with the delay in the effec­ staff had worked with the principal DEAR MR. MURPHY: The National Associa­ tive date there would be plenty of time participants to come up with this ap­ tion of Counties, National Conference of for municipalities to fully adjust. proach. Because of his leadership, the State Legislators, National League of Cities I also in closing would like to men­ anticipated congressional fight was re­ and U.S. Conference of Mayors commend tion that we appreciate the real ef­ solved through patient negotiation. you for the leadership you have shown in forts on behalf of the gentleman from This is particularly important to my resolving the difficulties faced by state and local governments across the nation as a Vermont [Mr. JEFFORDS], the gentle­ State of Oklahoma. Our State's econo­ result of the Supreme Court's decision in man from Wisconsin [Mr. PETRI], and my is depressed and that has had a de­ the Garcia v. the San Antonio Mass Transit the gentleman from Texas [Mr. BART­ pressing effect on commerce all over Authority case. LETT], and the constant attention they Oklahoma: The Garcia decision would The legislation you have introduced, H.R. showed to this problem over the past 3 have been devastating to local govern­ 3530 provides a solution to the problems cre­ months. And I thank Secretary Brock ment in Oklahoma. ated by Garcia which is balanced and equi­ table for all parties. It maintains the princi­ for meeting with us. The Members will Passage of this legislation provides ples of the Fair Labor Standards Act and at recall that he relieved us of the pres­ security for State and local govern­ the same time recognizes the special circum­ sure of the Department of Labor in ments and American taxpayers, and stances faced by public employers and forcing the particular aspects of the fairness for their employees. I urge its public employees. . Garcia case until November 1 of this adoption. Be assured that you have the strong sup­ year. Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, I port of all of our organizations for your bill I might say that today we officially yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman and that we will provide whatever assistance is needed to achieve its passage in its cur­ asked the Secretary to give us a few from Nebraska [Mrs. SMITH]. rent form. more days. We may not be able to get Mrs. SMITH of Nebraska. Mr. Sincerely, the President to sign this bill by No­ Speaker, I am glad that this body has John J. Gunther, executive director, vember 1, and if Secretary Brock will so quickly and effectively addressed U.S. Conference of Mayors; Matt grant us another week or so, I am sure the problems caused by the Supreme Coffey, executive director, National that we can send down to his Depart­ Court's February 19 Garcia decision Association of Counties; Alan Beals, ment a measure that he has certainly by bringing forth H.R. 3530, the Fair executive director, National League of Cities; Earl Mackey, executive direc­ been helpful in passing. Labor Standards Amendments of 1985. tor, National Conference of State Leg­ With that, Mr. Speaker, I yield back The Court's ruling, which rendered islators. the balance of my time. compensatory time off for State and Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, I local public employees nearly useless, AMERICAN FEDERATION OF LABOR yield myself such time as I may con­ has been nothing but a disaster in my AND CONGRESS OF INDUSTRIAL sume. home State of Nebraska. ORGANIZATIONS, Washington, DC, October 18, 1985. Mr. Speaker, first I would agree with Workers have been layed off, county DEAR REPRESENTATIVE: On behalf of the the statements made by the gentle­ and city budgets have been strained, AFL-CIO, I urge your support for H.R. man from Pennsylvania. But I would and my constitutents have been star­ 3530, the Fair Labor Standards Amend­ like to amplify to ensure that we un­ ing at the prospects of higher local ments of 1985. The bill has received the bi­ derstand each other with respect not taxes or reduced public services. partisan and unanimous support of the to individuals, but as to a general ap­ I introduced legislation, H.R. 3237, Labor Standards Subcommittee of the Com­ plication. to mitigate these harmful effects of mittee on Education and Labor, and it is scheduled for markup in the full Committee Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in my Garcia, and many of my colleagues next Wednesday, October 23. It is our hope statement, some jurisdictions have re­ helped to force action in this Chamber that this legislation will now obtain the ap­ sponded to the Garcia decision by re­ by cosponsoring H.R. 3237. proval of the full committee, without sub­ ducing wage rates across the board. I The bill before us now reflects a stantive change. Floor action is anticipated inquired of the Solicitor of Labor as to good, workable, compromise solution before the end of the month. whether this would constitute discrim­ to this problem. H.R. 3530 would give In the AFL-CIO's judgment, H.R. 3530 re­ ination under section 8 of the bill employers the option of granting em­ flects a carefully balanced approach that re­ solves the questions raised by the U.S. Su­ before us. ployees time-and-a-half overtime pay preme Court's decision in Garcia v. San An­ The Solicitor responded, in pertinent or compensatory time off at this same tonio Metropolitan Transit Authority. The part, and I will include the whole rate. Seasonal, emergency, and public bill preserves the integrity of the Fair Labor letter in the RECORD: safety employees could bank up to 480 Standards Act which is so vital to the inter­ At some time after the effective date of hours of "comp time" before cash ests of employees while addressing the con­ the amendments effected by H.R. 3530, the overtime pay would be required, all cerns of public employers. employer decides to reduce its total cost of The AFL-CIO, therefore, encourages you compensation for labor to an amount ap­ other employees could bank up to 180 to cosponsor the b111 and to suppport pas­ hours. sage of the b111 in its present form. proximately equal to the amount which I don't like H.R. 3530 quite as much Sincerely, would have been expended had the employ­ as a bill passed by the other Chamber er never commenced making cash overtime RAY DENISON, payments. Under the circumstances of this last week which lets all workers bank Director, Department of Levtslatton. employer's wage structure, it could achieve up to 480 hours of "comp time," but Mr. Speaker, with regard to the con­ this objective by reducing the base wage all in all H.R. 3530 is a good bill and I cern stated by the ranking member of rate of employees, while continuing to urge its support. the Education and Labor Committee comply with the provisions of section 6 <3> of the act. 29224 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 Based on the facts set forth above, and in Again, I want to commend all of the extra hours their particular jobs require. the absence of other significant facts, it is people involved with this for bringing They should receive some form of compen­ my opinion that the wage reduction de­ forth a speedy and equitable reconcili­ scribed would not, in and of itself, involve sation. It will now be up to each communi­ the application of Section 8, and would thus ation of these very difficult problems. ty to decide whether or not they can afford not be held to constitute a violation of Sec­ Mr. DAUB. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support a cash outlay or permit these people addi­ tion 15(a)(3) of the Act. of H.R. 3530, a bill that will ease the effects tional time off. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, of the Supreme Court's decision in Garcia I believe H.R. 3530 is good legislation and SOLICITOR OF LABOR, versus San Antonio Metropolitan Transit I commend the Education and Labor Com­ Washington, DC, October 28, 1985. Authority that requires State and local gov­ mittee for bringing the bill to the House Hon. JAMEs M. JEFFORDS, ernments to comply with the overtime pro­ floor in a timely manner. This legislation U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, visions of the Fair Labor Standards Act. I deserves our support and our vote today to DC. am a cosponsor of this important legisla­ DEAR CONGRESSMAN JEFFORDS: I am writing end the confusion and disarray caused by tion and, in fact, introduced a similar Garcia. I urge my colleagues to join me in in reply to your request for an opinion con­ measure on September 4, 1985. cerning the possible application of Section 8 support of H.R. 3530. of H.R. 3530, by which it is proposed to The National League of Cities and the International Cities Managers Association Mr. MARTINEZ. Mr. Speaker, I rise in amend the Fair Labor Standards Act, to a strong support of H.R. 3530, the Fair Labor particular factual situation more fully de­ have estimated that compliance with scribed below. Garcia would cost $1 billion for the coming Standards Amendments of 1985. Section 8, relating to discrimination, pro­ year. For fire protection service alone, the I would like to offer a perspective I am vides: city of Omaha, NE, predicts the additional sure is shared by those of us who have "A public agency which is a State, politi­ cost of overtime would be $370,000 for the served our communities on a local level, re­ cal subdivision of a State, or an interstate coming year. garding the Garcia decision. Local govern­ governmental agency and which discrimi­ ments have always been limited in their nates or has discriminated against an em­ Without this legislation, flexible and in­ ployee with respect to the employee's wages novative employment practices-many of abilities to provide services to their com­ or other terms or conditions of employment which are negotiated between local govern­ munities. They are dependent upon both because on or after February 19, 1985, the ments and municipal workers' unions-will their tax base and their share of funds that employee asserted coverage under section 7 no longer be possible. Additionally, H.R. come from State and local texes, and these of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 3530 will resolve the problems that the moneys collected directly determine the shall be held to have violated section Garcia decision created for individuals who level of services provided to their commu­ 15<3> of such Act." volunteer their time to State and local gov­ nities. Local governments have to be very As I understand the situation which is of concern to you in this connection, the ques­ ernments. frugal in both their outlays for salaries and tion arises with respect to a public employer I urge expedited action on H.R. 3530 and administrative costs and in the services to which, prior to February 19, 1985, the companion legislation in the other body (S. they provide such as police and fire protec­ provisions of the Fair Labor Standards Act 1570) to resolve confusion that the Su­ tion, street and sewer maintenance, recrea­ were inapplicable by virtue of the doctrine preme Court's decision has created for tion and parks, library services, and the of National League of Cities, and which has, State and local governments. many other services that make a communi­ during some portion or all of the period Mr. FRENZEL. Mr. Speaker, H.R. 3530 is ty liveable. Often forgotten is the difference since February 19, 1985, been paying over­ a bill which must be promptly passed to time compensation, in cash, to employees, in between companies engaged in private en­ compliance with the requirements of Sec­ negate some of the worst effects of the terprise and local governments. Businesses tion 7 of the Fair Labor Standards Act of Garcia case. can always add on the extra administrative 1938. The employer has done so without The bill is not the best solution. The com­ costs incurred into the price of product and being bound by the terms of a collective bar­ mittee could have done a better job by still maintain a profit margin, but cities gaining agreement to do so, and without adopting any one of several proposals to don't have this luxury. They are always other legal compulsion beyond the require­ reverse the Garcia decision. H.R. 3530 gives ments of the Act. At some time after the ef­ limited by the revenues collected, and are only partial refief. hard pressed to maintain adequate levels of fective date of the amendments effected by Nevertheless, the Garcia problem is so H.R. 3530, the employer decides to reduce service to their community in the best of its total cost of compensation for labor to an severe for our local governments that we times. When extra expenses are added on to amount approximately equal to the amount must pass this partial solution. H.R. 3530 is their budgets, services are often cut, and, in which would have been expended had the the only relief the committee will give us. the end, the community which the local employer never commenced making cash We have no choice but to accept it. overtime payments. Under the circum­ government serves loses. Perhaps the Senate will do better. I hope This necessity for local governments to stances of this employer's wage structure, it so. Our local governments deserve the max­ be good money managers has restricted the could achieve this objective by reducing the imum flexibility so that they can give maxi­ amount of overtime that cities could pay its base wage rate of employees, while continu­ mum service for a minimum tax cost. ing to comply with the provisions of Section workers. Most employee groups, to their 6 , which I am privi­ level. In fact, many employees such as rate previously in effect. You question leged to represent. police and firefighters in my home State of whether such a reduction would, under the The Garcia ruling may place a burden on California have actually come to prefer provisions of Section 8, be held to constitute having comp time instead of overtime pay a violation of Section 15<3> of the Act. New York and Los Angeles. For the cities Based on the facts set forth above, and in and towns in my district, it is catastrophic for those extra hours worked. To them, the the absence of other significant facts, it is in its implications. These communities extra time to spend on projects that benefit my opinion that the wage reduction de­ simply cannot afford to pay time-and-a­ themselves, their homes, their future and scribed would not, in and of itself, involve half for overtime work, particularly for the their families, are more important than the the application of Section 8, and would thus police and fire personnel. It could lead to cash they could earn. not be held to constitute a violation of Sec­ serious financial burdens and inadequate These employee groups and local govern­ tion 15<3> of the Act. ments have negotiated comp time provi­ I trust this is responsive to your inquiry. protection for the people. If I can be of further assistance, please feel H.R. 3530 gives communities a choice of sions into their contracts to the benefit of free to call upon me. either cash or compensatory time off. This the employee, the local government, and ul­ Sincerely, is fair and equitable to all. Police officers timately, the community in general. These FRANCIS X. LILLY. and firefighters deserve recognition for the agreements for comp time have worked October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29225 well, and I am pleased to see that H.R. 3530 employer organizations, including the U.S. public employees like police and firemen will allow this practice to continue. Conference of Mayors, the National League whose jobs require demanding, unpredict­ Another related aspect which I am of Cities, and the National Association of able hours. pleased to see included in H.R. 3530 is the Counties. The Congressional Budget Office It is not often in Congress that we are allowed deferment until August 1, 1986 for estimates that no costs would be associated able to reach a compromise that truly rep­ local governments to pay employees for the with enactment of H.R. 3530. This bill resents a good solution for all sides. This is overtime pay earned as a result of the enjoys wide bipartisan support, as well as one of those rare instances, and I commend Garcia decision after April 15, 1986. Again, the support of the administration. Indeed, all the members of the committee, affected local governments are limited in the the Labor Department had intended to labor groups, and local government units amounts of revenue it can raise, and the start implementing the decision on October who worked so hard to make this compro­ overtime pay owed after April 15, the effec­ 15, but Labor Secretary William E. Brock mise a reality. tive date of H.R. 3530, would saddle local III has postponed the enforcement date to Finally, I would like to commend the De­ governments with an extra burden in the November 1 to give us in Congress time to partment of Labor their willingness to middle of fiscal year. This delay will allow enact legislation which will comply with postpone enforcement of the Supreme local governments to adequately figure in the Garcia decision. Court Garcia decision until Congress had the extra costs of the Garcia decision into I am confident that this bill will be mutu­ an opportunity to develop a solution, and I its 1987 budgets without unfairly having ally beneficial to the employees and em­ urge the President to sign this legislation the extra cost placed on its 1986 budgets ployers affected, for it allows workers the into law without delay. which have already been allocated and freedom to receive deserved compensation Mr. ECKART of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I have little flexibility for new costs. This in the manner they prefer while reducing support H.R. 3530, the Fair Labor Stand­ delay until August 1 will not allow local the compliance cost of the Supreme Court ards Amendments of 1985, and commend ruling for public employers. Many of the governments to back away from their obli­ my colleagues on the Education and Labor hard-working people employed by our State gations to employees, but rather ensure the Committee for their excellent work on this local governments will continue to main­ and local governments value their private tain those necessary city services, budgeted time more than the overtime pay they matter. on July 1, 1985, throughout the 1986 fiscal could earn. For example, I was recently Following the Supreme Court's February year. Local governments make a commit­ contacted by a policewoman in my district decision in the Garcia versus Samta case, I ment every year on July 1 to provide serv­ who urged me to support H.R. 3530. She received many calls and letters from mu­ ices at certain levels for 12 months, and I told me that she would much rather give nicipal governments throughout the State am glad to see, with this deferment, that back to her twin babies the time she spent of Ohio that this ruling would have an ex­ local governments will be able to honor away from them than to receive any extra tremely adverse impact on their budgets. this commitment without an extra burden pay. I believe that the countless other The Court's decision overruled its 1976 in the middle of the year. public workers who feel as this employee opinion that congressional inclusion of In conclusion, I am pleased that the com­ does should have the option of taking com­ State and local employees under the re­ promise between local governments and or­ pensatory time, in lieu of overtime pay. Ac­ quirements of the Fair Labor Standards ganized labor has been worked out, and I cordingly, I urge my colleagues to join me Act was unconstitutional. In its February urge my colleagues to vote for H.R. 3530. in supporting H.R. 3530, to allow public decision in Garcia, the Court found that Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Speaker, I rise in employees to substitute compensatory time the 1974 FSLA amendments passed by the strong support of H.R. 3530, legislation that for overtime pay and to defer public em­ Congress were indeed not unconstitutional would change overtime benefits for State ployer liability for overtime until April 15, and ruled that all State and local govern­ and local government employees. I com­ 1986. ments must pay their workers overtime for mend the gentleman from Pennsylvania Mr. BONKER. Mr. Speaker, last Febru­ the extra hours of overtime they worked. [Mr. MURPHY], for introducing this bill ary's Supreme Court decision in Garcia The Department of Labor, shortly follow­ which will provide an equitable and reason­ against San Antonio, while addressing a se­ ing this decision, announced that it would able solution to the problem of how best to rious labor concern, created a potentially begin enforcing the Court's decision by Oc­ comply with the recent Supreme Court de­ devastating financial situation for State tober 15th of this year and would deter­ cision, Garcia versus San Antonio Metro­ and local governments around the country. mine these governments liable for overtime politan Transit Authority (February 1985). The decision that employees of State and pay as far back as April 15th of this year. In the Garcia case, the Supreme Court local governments were not only entitled to Given that the Court's decision was only ruled that overtime pay requirements of overtime wages, but were entitled to these handed down in February, this action by the Fair Labor Standards Act apply to wages effective the date of the court's deci­ the administration was unduly harsh. Even State and local employees. Interpretations sion, February 16, 1985, would have created in 1974, when Congress first brought State of previous decisions affirming State au­ a situation of serious economic distress for and local employees under the FSLA, it thority over functions not specifically re­ municipalities nationwide. granted the governments 2¥2 years to come served for Congress had exempted State Congress has acted switfly to develop a under compliance with the new law. This and local public employers from the act's compromise solution to this problem that swift action by the Reagan administration, purview. State and local government offi­ balances the economic concerns of the gov­ following the Garcia decision, only served cials estimate the compliance cost of the ernments with the need for fairness and to increase alarm among the municipal Garcia decision at over $1 billion. adequate compensation for our public em­ governments that their budgets would be H.R. 3530 would ease the impact of the ployees. Congressman MURPHY's bill, H.R. severely damaged by this ruling. Court ruling by deferring public employer 3530, which I strongly support, provides But, thanks to the members of the Edu­ liability for overtime and related paper­ State and local governments with an alter­ cation and Labor Committee, who worked work violations of the Fair Labor Stand­ native to strict cash compensation for over­ closely with our colleagues across the Hill, ards Act until April 15, 1986, for those time work. Up to a certain point, they may this impending crisis has been averted. H.R. public employees affected by the Garcia de­ offer compensatory time at the rate of 3530 properly addresses the concerns of cision, and by permitting employees to sub­ time-and-a-half for overtime hours worked. these State and local governments while stitute compensatory time for overtime This will become effective April 15, 1986, to ensuring that their employees are properly payment at a rate of 1% hours per hour allow local government units to make nec­ compensated for the extra hours they put worked. Certain limits shall be placed on essary adjustments. into their work. In addition, the legislation accrued compensatory hours, with cash I believe all sides can be pleased by this gives these governments sufficient time to compensation for overtime after those compromise solution, which provides local reallocate their resources to comply with limits are reached. public employees with the financial flexi­ this new requirement. This bill is the result of negotiations con­ bility necessary to adequately provide the I urge my colleagues to swiftly approve ducted in September between labor unions services unique to local governments. It this legislation, which both protects the representing public employees, and public also responds to the compensation needs of rights of our State and local workers while

51-059 0--!l7-:l4 I Pt. 21 I 29226 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 addressing the concern of these govern­ Tualatin Rural Fire Protection District and public employees working overtime. It also ments. the Washington County Fire District No. 1. gives State and local governments until Mr. AuCOIN. Mr. Speaker, I rise in The Garcia decision denied workers in April 15, 1986, to revise personnel practices strong support of H.R. 3530, amending the Oregon some of their collective bargaining and exempts volunteers from coverage. Fair Labor Standards Act. I want to com­ rights, and substantially increased the cost Let me emphasize that this represents a mend the members and staff of the House to local governments. major compromise effort. The bill is the Labor Standards Subcommittee, and in Although this legislation before us does culmination of the efforts of local govern­ particular my friends Congressman not rescind the Garcia decision, it does ad­ mental associations and representatives of MURPHY, the subcommittee chairman, Con­ dress the major concerns raised by these public employee unions, among them the gressman HAWKINS, chairman of the Edu­ local government officials and their em­ National League of Cities, the National As­ cation and Labor Committee, and Con­ ployees. The issue of "comp time" has been sociation of Governmental Employees, Na­ gressmen BARTLETI' and JEFFORDS for resolved, as has the controversial aspect of tional Governors' Association, AFSCME, their hard work and their willingness to retroactive liability. The confusion over and the Amalgamated Transit Workers, listen to all sides in this complex issue. what constitutes a "volunteer" has also and their willingness to reach an accepta­ I believe Congress has tackled a complex been cleared up. These were the major ble solution. Because all parties were able and controversial issue and come up with a stumbling blocks which Chairmen MURPHY to resolve this issue through compromise, it workable compromise. That doesn't seem to and HAWKINS had to contend with, and 6 clearly demonstrates the willingness of all happen often enough in Washington. months ago it looked as though a consen­ sides to avoid what could have resulted in Mr. Speaker, last spring when the Su­ sus would never be reached. However, it is an unnecessary stalemate. preme Court made its now famous Garcia a tribute to their hard work, and to the I would ask that a summary of the bill be ruling, the local government employees hard work of the representatives of both printed in the RECORD. must be covered by the Fair Labor Stand­ the local governments and the employee ards Act, it was hailed by those who felt unions that we have before us a bill which I. COMPENSATORY TIME local government employees deserved the both sides have unanimously endorsed. Al­ Public safety, emergency service or sea­ same rights and protections that both Fed­ though neither side is completely satisfied sonal workers may not accumulate more eral workers and those in the private sector with this legislation, the fact that it is en­ than 480 hours of compensatory time, while enjoy. However, local governments began dorsed by the National League of Cities, other state and local workers may not accu­ mulate more than 180 hours. After these assessing the costs of these new statutes, the National Association of Counties, and hours have been reached, employees must which denied the use of compensatory time the American Federation of State, County, be paid overtime pay equivalent at least to for payment of overtime hours worked, and and Municipal Employees of the AFL-CIO time-and-a-half. Also, the bill provides for realized that they would either have to cut shows that it is a genuine compromise in employees to be paid for accrued compensa­ services or raise taxes in order to meet the truest sense of the word. tory time at the time of termination, based these new labor costs for which no money It is now up to the Department of Labor on average pay over the past three year had been budgeted. to assist the local governments with the time period. In Oregon this decision was met with technical questions which will invariably II. SPECIAL DETAIL, OCCASIONAL WORK AND almost universal opposition. Although most arise once this legislation becomes law. It SUBSTITUTION Oregonians agreed that local government is essential that we avoid the confusion, Special detail, occasional and mutual aid employees throughout the country deserved delay, and uncertainty which arose over employment for a second employer or in a the protections of the Fair Labor Stand­ the Supreme Court's original decision last second capacity will not be considered in ards Act, these protections were redundant February. With the implementation of this calculating overtime pay. and unnecessary in Oregon, which has very legislation on April 15, 1986, the Depart­ In addition, public employees may substi­ strict State labor laws. Local government ment of Labor has a responsibility to see tute for one another without the substitu­ employees in Oregon felt that this decision that local governments have all the neces­ tion affecting overtime pay. denied them the benefits which they had sary information available to them in order III. VOLUNTEER WORK agreed to in collective bargaining negotia­ to carry out these new statutes. I know the The bill exempts volunteers from cover­ tions, including the right to be "paid" in local offices of Federal Wage and Hour are age of the Fair Labor Standards Act. Also, it comp-time, rather than in cash, for over­ willing to assist local governments with exempts public agencies from violations of time hours work.OO. This is an arrangement their questions regarding the Fair Labor minimum wage laws for services performed which can be very beneficial to some em­ Standards Act, and am pleased that the De­ by volunteers before April 15, 1986. ployees, and they wanted to continue to partment of Labor has initiated a toll-free IV. LEGISLATIVE EMPLOYEES EXEMPTIONS have this option available. Local govern­ number to assist in this process. That State and local legislative employees, ments agreed that because the pay and number is 1-800-233-3572. except library employees, are exempt from overtime contracts with employees had Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. Speaker, I rise today coverage. been agreed to under collective bargaining in strong support of H.R. 3530, legislation OTHER PROVISIONS arrangements, there was no need for the which would amend the Fair Labor Stand­ The bill allows public employers to defer Federal Government to intercede in these ards Act and applaud my colleagues on the monetary overtime compensation for hours mutually agree upon contracts. committee for offering this compromise so­ worked after April 15, 1986, until August 1, With the tremendous Federal deficit now lution addressing the problems of the Su­ 1986. crippling our economy, the Federal Gov­ preme Court decision in the recent Garcia It also bars discrimination against any em­ ernment is being forced to cut back on pro­ case. ployees who may have asserted coverage grams that assist State and local govern­ The House of Representatives took an under the FLSA overtime provisions. ments. This is hard enough on local gov­ early initiative by approv'ng an amend­ I would urge this body to approve this vi­ ernments without the added expense which ment on the 1986 Labor Department appro­ tally important legislation and end the un­ the Garcia decision created. It is no wonder priations bill calling on the Department to certainty which has resulted from the that many of the cities and counties in my suspend enforcement of the Garcia decision Garcia decision. congressional district felt frustration over pending further congressional action. The Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, I this situation. I heard from the mayors of Labor Department followed suit by volun­ yield back the balance of my time. Tigard, Newberg, Astoria, North Plains, tarily agreeing to delay implementation of The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Portland, Sherwood, Columbia City, and these standards until we had the opportuni­ question is on the motion offered by Hillsboro. I also heard from county com­ ty to consider a comprehensive legislative the gentleman from Pennsylvania missioners in Yamhill, Clatsop, and Tilla­ solution. The legislation before us today [Mr. Murphy] that the House suspend mook Counties. The Garcia decision also represents that solution. the rules and pass the bill, H.R. 3530, offended fire fighters, both paid and volun­ H.R. 3530, of which I am pleased to co­ as amended. teers. I was informed of the adverse effects sponsor, allows for either monetary com­ The question was taken; and No overtime compensation in the SPECIAL DETAILS, OCCASIONAL OR SPORADIC as amended, was passed. form of compensatory time off may be ac­ EMPLOYMENT, AND SUBSTITUTION A motion to reconsider was laid on crued by any employee of a public agency SEC. 3. (a) SPECIAL DETAIL WORK FOR FIRE the table. which is a State, a political subdivision of a PROTECTION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOY­ State, or an interstate governmental agency, EES.-Section 7 <29 U.S.C. 207> is amended Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, I ask in excess of 480 hours for hours worked unanimous consent to take from the by adding after subsection If compensation is paid to an employ­ cluding activities of security personnel in clarify the application of that act to ee for accrued compensatory time off, such correctional institutions> and who, solely at volunteers and for other purposes, and compensation shall be paid at the regular such individual's option, agrees to be em­ ask for its immediate consideration. rate of compensation earned by the employ­ ployed on a special detail by a separate or ee at the time the employee receives such independent employer in fire protection, The Clerk read the title of the payment. Senate bill. law enforcement, or related activities, the "(4) An employee who has accrued com­ hours such individual was employed by such The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is pensatory time off authorized to be provid­ separate and independent employer may be there objection to the request of the ed under paragraph <1 > shall, upon termina­ excluded by the public agency employing gentleman from Pennsylvania? tion of employment, be paid for the unused compensatory time at the regular rate of such individual in the calculation of the There was no objection. hours for which the employee is entitled to The Clerk read the Senate bill, as compensation earned by the employee at the time the employee receives compensa­ overtime compensation under this section if follows: tion for overtime. the public agency- s. 1570 "(5) An employee of a public agency " requires that its employees engaged in fire protection, law enforcement, or secu­ Be it enacted by the Senate and House of which is a State, political subdivision of a State, or an interstate governmental rity activities be hired by a separate and in­ Representatives of the United States of dependent employer to perform the special America in Congress assembled, agency- " who has accrued compensatory time detail, SHORT TITLE; REFERENCE TO ACT off authorized to be provided under para­ " facilitates the employment of such SECTION 1. (a) SHORT TITLE.-This Act may graph <1 >. and employees by a separate and independent be cited as the "Fair Labor Standards " who has requested the use of such employer, or Amendments of 1985". compensatory time, "(C) otherwise affects the condition of (b) REFERENCE TO ACT.-Whenever in this employment of such employees by a sepa­ Act an amendment or repeal is expressed in shall be permitted by the employee's em­ rate and independent employer.". terms of an amendment to, or repeal of, a ployer to use such time within a reasonable (b) OCCASIONAL OR SPORADIC EII:PLOY­ section or other provision, the reference period after making the request if the use of MENT.-Section 7

(29 U.S.C. 207>. as added shall be considered to be a reference to a the compensatory time does not unduly dis­ by subsection (a), is amended by adding at section or other provision of the Fair Labor rupt the operations of the public agency. "(6) For purposes of this subsection- the end the following: Standards Act of 1938. "(2) If an employee of a public agency " the term 'overtime compensation' COMPENSATORY TIME means the compensation required by subsec­ which is a State, political subdivision of a SEc. 2. (a) COMPENSATORY TIME.-Section 7 tion , and State, or an interstate governmental agency <29 U.S.C. 207> is amended by adding at the " the term 'compensatory time' or undertakes, on an occasional or sporadic end the following: 'compensatory time off' means hours during basis and solely at the employee's option, " Employees of a public agency which an employee is not working and part-time employment for the public agency which is a State, a political subdivision of a which are not counted as hours worked which is in a different capacity from any ca­ State, or an interstate governmental agency during the applicable workweek or other pacity in which the employee is regularly may receive, in accordance with this subsec­ work period for purposes of overtime com­ employed, the hours such employee was em­ tion and in lieu of overtime compensation, pensation, and for which the employee is ployed in performing the different employ­ compensatory time off at a rate not less compensated at the employee's regular ment may be excluded by the public agency than one and one-half hours for each hour rate.". in the calculation of the hours for which of employment for which overtime compen­ (b) EXISTING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING the employee is entitled to overtime com­ sation is required by this section. AGREE:MENTS.-A collective bargaining agree­ pensation under this section.". "(2) A public agency may provide compen­ ment which is in effect on April 15, 1986, (C) SUBSTITUTION.-<1) Section 7(p) (29 satory time under paragraph <1> only- and which permits compensatory time off in U.S.C. 207), as amended by subsection (b), is " pursuant to- lieu of overtime compensation shall remain amended by adding at the end the follow­ "(i) applicable provisions of a collective in effect until its expiration date unless oth­ ing: bargaining agreement, memorandum of un­ erwise modified, except that compensatory "(3) If an individual who- derstanding, or any other agreement be­ time shall be provided after April 14, 1986, is employed by a public agency which is a tween the public agency and representative in accordance with section 7 of the Fair State, political subdivision of a State, or an of such employees; or Labor Standards Act of 1938 in the case of employees not covered subsection if the employee has not accrued com­ Standards Act of 1938 for a violation of sec­ ties, the hours such employee worked as a pensatory time in excess of the limit appli­ tion 7 or ll of substitute may be excluded by the public cable to the employee prescribed by para­ such Act occurring before April 15, 1986, agency in the calculation of the hours for graph <3>. with respect to any employee of the State, which the employee is entitled to overtime In the case of employees described in clause political subdivision, or agency who would compensation under this section.". hired prior to April 15, 1986, the reg­ not have been covered by such Act under (2) Section ll(c) (29 U.S.C. 21Hc» is ular practice in effect on April 15, 1986, the Secretary of Labor's special enforce­ amended by adding at the end the follow­ with respect to compensatory time off for ment policy on January 1, 1985, and pub­ ing: "The employer of an employee who per­ such employees in lieu of the receipt of lished in sections 775.2 and 775.4 of title 29 forms substitute work described in section overtime compensation, shall constitute an of the Code of Federal Regulations. 7(p)(4) may not be required under this sub­ agreement or understanding under such <2> A State, political subdivision of State, section to keep a record of the hours of the clause . Except as provided in the pre­ or interstate governmental agency may substitute work.". vious sentence, the provision of compensato­ defer unti August 1, 1986, the payment of ry time off to such employees for hours overtime compensation under section 7 of VOLUNTEERS worked after April 14, 1986, shall be in ac­ the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 for SEC. 4. (a) DEFINITION.-Section 3(e) (29 cordance with this subsection. hours worked after April14, 1986. U.S.C. 203 by striking out "paragraphs <2> and DISCRIMINATION information on the effective date of this <3>" in paragraph and inserting in lieu SEc. 8. An employee of a public agency section.". thereof "paragraphs <2>. (3), and (4)", and who asserts' coverage under the Fair Labor SEC. 2. EFFECI'IVE DATE. <2> by adding at the end the following: Standards Act of 1938 between February 19, (a) IN GENERAL.-Section 2406 of title 10, "(4)(A) The term 'employee' does not in­ 1985, and April 14, 1986, shall be accorded United States Code <3> of the Fair Labor Standards Act of section 1 of this Act shall become effective ernmental agency, if <1> of agency. enacting clause of the Senate bill, S. 1570, such section> entered into by a defense "(B) An employee of a public agency and to insert in lieu thereof the text of the agency on or after the date of the en­ State, or an interstate governmental agency The motion was agreed to. actment of such section and shall be effec­ may volunteer to perform services for any tive with respect to covered contracts en­ other State, political subdivision. or inter­ The Senate bill was ordered to be tered into by a defense agency before such state governmental agency, including a read a third time, was read the third date if such contracts have not been com­ State, political subdivision or agency with time, and passed. pleted or otherwise terminated before such which the employing State, political subdi­ The title was amended so as to read: date. vision, or agency has a mutual aid agree­ "a bill to amend the Fair Labor Stand­ The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is a ment.". ards Act of 1938 to authorize the pro­ (b) REGULATIONS.-Not later than March second demanded? 15, 1986, the Secretary of Labor shall issue vision of compensatory time in lieu of Mr. DICKINSON. Mr. Speaker, I regulations to carry out paragraph <4> of overtime compensation for employees demand a second. section 3 of of States, political subdivisions of The SPEAKER pro tempore. With­ this section>. States, and interstate governmental out objection, a second will be consid­ {C) CURRENT PltACTICE.-If before April 15, agencies, to clarify the application of ered as ordered. 1986, the practice of a public agency was to the Act to volunteers, and for other There was no objection. treat certain individuals as volunteers, such purposes." The SPEAKER pro tempore. The individuals shall until April 15, 1986, be con­ A motion to reconsider was laid on · sidered, for purposes of the Fair Labor gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Standards Act of 1938, as volunteers and not the table. AsPIN] will be recognized for 20 min­ as employees. No public agency which is a A similar House bill of section 3<2> <29 H.R. 3530, the bill just passed. bill to my colleagues. The bill here U.S.C. 203<2> by striking out "or" at the end of sub­ there objection to the request of the clause by striking out "who" in subclause There was no objection. . noon. This is a bill that is a freestand­ (3) by striking out the period at the end of ing piece of legislation, but what it subclause and inserting in lieu thereof CLARIFYING APPLICATION OF does is deals with some ambiguities in ",or", and SECTION 2406 OF TITLE 10, the legislation which will be before <4> by adding after subclause the fol­ the House tomorrow afternoon, the lowing: UNITED STATES CODE is an employee in the legislative Mr. ASPIN. Mr. Speaker, I move to authorization bill. branch or legislative body of that State, po­ suspend the rules and pass the bill That authorization bill contains a litical subdivision, or agency and is not em­ of title 10, United States We, because of the constraints of is liable under section 16 of the Fair Labor Code, as added by section 917 of the Depart­ the legislation, had to accept exactly Standards Act of 1938 for a violation of sec­ ment of Defense Authorization Act of 1986, the same language in the House; the tion 6, 7, or 11 of such Act occurring before is amended by adding at the end thereof the same language passed the House that April 15, 1986, with respect to any employee following new paragraph: of such public agency who would have been "(3) Nothing in this section shall require a passed the Senate; we had to put that covered by such Act under the Secretary of defense agency to record, in connection with language into the conference. Labor's special enforcement policy on Janu­ any covered contract, any information re­ It does contain a number of ambigu­ ary 1, 1985, and published in section 775.3 of ferred to in this section if the contractor ities as drawn. It does have a few title 29 of the Code of Federal Regulations. under such contract does not maintain such things that are not exactly clear as to October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29229 what was intended. In the report of Mr. DICKINSON. Mr. Speaker, I the defense authorization bill, is being the managers on the bill, an interpre­ yield myself such time as I may con­ handled; which as far as I know is tation was put in that said that this sume. unique. We are told that we have got provision shall apply only to future Mr. DICKINSON. Mr. Speaker, as to come in now and correct an over­ contractors; that was not in the lan­ has been pointed out today, we are sight of an amendment that was of­ guage of the bill; it was in the state­ considering H.R. 3606, a bill to clarify fered during the floor debate of the ment of managers. an ambiguity in section 917 of the con­ authorization bill before we can bring The statement of managers' lan­ ference report, S. 1160, the Depart­ the conference report back and even guage was, from the point of view of a ment of Defense authorization bill for consider it; we have got to correct number of us on this side of the aisle, fiscal year 1986. what should have been done, and if incorrect. That was not the intent, we This provision which relates to the this does not pass, I gather that we thought, of the language as it passed imposition of standard labor hour re­ cannot even get the conference report the House; we don't know what hap­ porting for defense contractors was on the authorization bill up tomorrow. one of the amendments offered to the pened in the Senate, but it was not the authorization bill which had never Would the chairman clarify that intent of the language. been subject to hearings or committee point? If this should not pass, we will So there was a statement in the lan­ review. I opposed it at the time for still have the conference report guage of the statement of managers that reason, because we did not know brought up tomorrow, anyway? which in fact does not correspond to what the effect was; we did not know Mr. ASPIN. If the gentleman will what we thought the bill meant when who it would affect; we did not know yield, I believe the answer is "yes," we it passed the House. when the effective date would be; and would have the authorization brought To clear up that particular misun­ we were writing new legislation on the up before. It is important, though, derstanding and to clarify two or three floor without really having a feel for that this matter be clarified before we other misunderstandings or ambigu­ the import. vote on the authorization bill, because ities in the bill because we couldn't Now, I think it is bad legislation, as I clearly the issues in the authorization deal with it in conference in any sub­ have referred to it before. Since the bill need to be clarified before they are stantive way, the bill before you is a chairman is still here, let me see if I on the floor; and I think it would not bill that has come from the House can clear up something else that is be fair to the Congress to say, "Well, Armed Services Committee, sponsored still an ambiguity even in the proposed you pass the authorization bill and by me and the gentlewoman from Cali­ legislation, and I would like to pro­ then we will clarify it in subsequent fornia [Mrs. BoXER] to try and clarify pound a question to him. language." We ought to have the sub­ the language in the authorization bill. We wrote in the authorization lan­ sequent language and the clarification It does three things: First, it says guage, after it passed, what I thought point out there so that everybody un­ that the information required in the was common sense. That is, we are not derstands what they will be voting on authorization bill shall be required 6 going to pass legislation that is retro­ tomorrow. months after the date of enactment of active in effect, going back to say that :Mr. DICKINSON. I will say I think the authorization bill. So it establishes over 100,000 contracts now in exist­ it is a very unusual procedure, and I the exact date upon which this provi­ ence would automatically be subjected think that the Committee on Armed sion of the bill will take place. to this provision, and which, in effect, Services has been the recipient in the Second, it says that as of that date, would say that each of the contracts last few years of several unique proce­ all information; existing contracts as would have to be renegotiated with dures that the other committees have well as prospective contracts, that that the Defense Department. not been subjected to. information is required under the lan­ This bill that we are considering I can recall one occasion when we guage of the bill. today says that we are trying to clear had an authorization bill complete, Third, it clarifies a point by saying, this up. So, we are going to wait 6 asking for a rule; they put it on a side­ unambiguously, that this information months, 180 days, and that will be the track and brought out the appropria­ is not required of any corporation effective date. Now, we have agreed tions bill to the floor and passed it doing business with Defense which that that is the impact and the pur­ while we were still waiting to bring our does not already keep that informa­ pose. authorization to the floor. That was tion now in its records. That was the My question is, when that 6 months before the present chairman of the intention of the authors; it was not runs, and the effective date is trig­ Rules Committee was the chairman. quite clear in the language that passed gered, what does that cover? Does that the House and the Senate in the au­ cover the contracts 6 months back of 0 1325 that time that were in effect when the thorization bill. But we have been in a number of un­ So it does clarify the language in the authorization bill was passed, or does it take effect that date? I would like to usual situations here. For instance, I authorization bill on three very, very establish this for legislative history. cannot think of any other committee important matters. I, therefore, think Mr. ASPIN. If the gentleman will of the Congress that has had more it is an important piece of legislation; I yield, my interpretation is that it special conferees upon it to a confer­ think it clarifies the language in the would cover the contracts in effect as ence than there were members of the House bill, the authorization bill; it is, of the date that the provision passes. Committee on Armed Services in that I think, going to be beneficial to the Mr. DICKINSON. Six months conference. We pass a bill, we go to people who want this information to hence. conference with the Senate, and for have this information clarified. Mr. ASPIN. Correct. the past 2 years we have had more, a Yet importantly, I think it is also Mr. DICKINSON. And not go back 6 total of more special conferees than important to the defense contractors months and capture all of those con­ there were members of our committee to have this issue clarified. It clearly tracts that might have since expired. there. So I really think that we on the delineates now who is and who is not Well, I would hope that would be Committee on Armed Services have required to do what under this provi­ the case, because to do otherwise not been in recent times treated fairly sion of the law. Without that, the au­ would certainly be unfair, to make it in some instances. We certainly have thorization bill, which comes before retroactive in nature; and that is the been treated differently from other the House tomorrow will not be clear reason I oppose this. committees of the Congress. on these issues. I would also like to point out, Mr. I would like to see this come to a Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Speaker, and register a complaint as to halt. I do not know how we are going my time. how this particular armed services bill, to bring it about in the near future, 29230 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 but I certainly will work toward that respect to the Center in accordance with the ants will cover the expenses of operat­ end. provisions of section 9 of Chapter 170 of the ing and maintaining the building. I think the legislation before us Mississippi General Laws of 1985 <2>, by adding at the Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of search projects, and a center of excellence end thereof the following: "One of the H.R. 3235, "the Mississippi Techono­ for remote sensing operated by Mississippi members appointed under each of subpara­ logy Transfer Act of 1985." Institute for Technology Development. graphs through of paragraph <1> Passage of this legislation is neces­ This legislation is simple and noncontro­ shall be a member of the Congress."; sary to permit the Administrator of versial. It would permit NASA to accept the <2> by striking out subsection (b) and in­ NASA to accept this gift of a $4 mil­ gift of a facility constructed and furnished serting in lieu thereof the following: lion building from the State of Missis­ entirely by the State of Mississippi. In "(b) Appointed members of the Board sippi. Passage of this bill is also a good return, NASA would oversee the mainte­ shall continue to serve at the pleasure of deal for the taxpayers of our Nation. nance of the building and set aside 20 per­ the officer by whom they are appointed, but by striking out paragraph <2> of sub­ center. The entire $4 million has al­ center would be largely offset by lease pay­ section and redesignating paragraphs <3> ready been appropriated by the State ments from the tenants, there is no cost and <4> as paragraphs <2> and (3), respective­ of Mississippi. What the taxpayers get, whatsoever to the Federal Government. ly. 29232 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 SEC. 3. EXTENSION OF AUTHORITY. "(2) assess the reasonableness of expenses The goal of the program is to en­ Section 9 of the Act <2 U.S.C. 808) is allowed to the Director and other employ­ courage in young people a sense of vol­ amended by striking out "six years after the ees of the Board and such corporation. untarism, citizenship, and leadership date of the enactment of this Act" and in­ " In the report of the first audit per­ serting in lieu thereof "on November 16, formed under subsection after the date by giving of themselves to help their 1988". of enactment of this subsection, the Comp­ community and to reinforce develop­ troller General shall include an evaluation ment of their personal and work skills. SEC. 4. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS. The positive qualities that stem (a) SALARY LIMITATION.-Section 3(b) of of the programs and activities under this the Act <2 U.S.C. 802(b)) is amended by Act. Such evaluation shall include an exami­ from physical fitness or expedition ac­ adding at the end thereof the following new nation of- tivity are fully recognized. sentence: "<1) the extent to which the Congression­ This legislation before us extends al Award Program and activities under this the Congressional Award Program for "No salary established by the Board under Act are achieving the purposes stated in sec­ paragraph <3> shall exceed $75,000 per tion 3; 3 additional years. :~'he act is due to annum, exept that for calendar years after "(2) the adequacy and appropriateness of expire on November 16, 1985. 1986, such limit shall be increased in propor­ the standards of achievement and proce­ The act before us improves the man­ tion to increases in the Consumer Price dures for verifying that individuals satisfy agement and administration of the Index.". such standards established by the Board; program and increases congressional (b) ScHOLARSHIPs.-Section 3 is amend­ "(3) the efficacy and adequacy of the oversight over the program. ed by striking out "Gold Medal" and insert­ Board's fundraising efforts under this Act; ing in lieu thereof "Gold, Silver, and Bronze "(4) the organizational structure of the 0 1340 Medals". Board, particularly the use of Regional Di­ (C) REPORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENDI­ rectors; and Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of TURES.-Section 3(e)(4) of the Act is amend­ "(5) such additional areas as the Comp­ my time. ed by inserting before the period at the end troller General determines deserve or re­ Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I thereof the following: "for each member, of­ quire evaluation. yield myself such time as I may con­ ficer, employee, and consutant of the Board "(d) The report on the second audit per­ sume. after the date Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I rise to section 7<1»". of enactment of this subsection shall be sub­ in support of H.R. 344 7, the Congres­ (d) ANNUAL MEETINGS.-Section 4(f) of the mitted on or before May 15, 1988. ". Act is amended by striking out "meet annu­ sional Award Amendments of 1985. ally at the call of the Chairman" and insert­ SEC. 5. CONFORMING AMENDMENT. The Congressional Award Amend­ ing in lieu thereof "meet at least twice a Section 2 of Public Law 98-33 <2 U.S.C. ments of 1985 represents a solid piece year at the call of the Chairman is repealed. of legislation for a well-intended pro­ least one meeting in the District of Colum­ The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is a gram that has experienced what most bia>''. second demanded? observers consider to be serious man­ BYLAWs.-Section 4(i) of the Act is Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I agement problems in recent years. The amended by adding at the end thereof the following: "Such bylaws and other regula­ demand a second. Congressional Award Program seeks to tions shall include provisions to prevent any The SPEAKER pro tempore. With­ encourage young people who provide conflict of interest, or the appearance of out objection, a second will be consid­ services to their community and ex­ any conflict of interest, in the procurement ered as ordered. hibit a dedication to the merits of per­ and employment actions taken by the Board There was no objection. sonal development and physical fit­ or by any officer or employee of the Board. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The ness. The program is financed solely Such bylaws shall include appropriate fiscal gentleman from Montana [Mr. WIL­ through funds raised in the private control, funds accountability, and operating LIAMS] will be recognized for 20 min­ sector with Congress allowing its two principles to ensure compliance with the provisions of section 7 of this Act. A copy of utes and the gentleman from Texas nationally recognized symbols of gov­ such bylaws shall be transmitted to each [Mr. BARTLETT] will be recognized for ernment-the American eagle and the House of Congress not later than 90 days 20 minutes. Capitol dome to be used on the award after the date of enactment of the Congres­ The Chair recognizes the gentleman and in select publications and adver­ sional Award Amendments of 1985 and not from Montana [Mr. WILLIAMS]. tisements. later than 10 days after any subsequent Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I yield The young people who have received amendment or revision of such bylaws.". myself such time as I may consume. bronze, silver, or gold Congressional (f) RESTRICTION OF SPONSORSHIP ADVERTIS­ Mr. Speaker, today I bring before Awards have exhibited personal quali­ ING.-Section 7 of the Act <2 U.S.C. 806(c)) is amended by adding at the end the House H.R. 3447, the Congression­ ties that we can all be proud of. Allow­ thereof the following: al Award Amendments of 1985. ing the limited use of the congression­ "The Board may permit donors to use the This bill was considered by the al imprimatur toward their recogni­ name of the Board or the name 'Congres­ House Committee on Education and tion is worthwhile. sional Award Program' in advertising.". Labor and approved, as amended, on The bill we are considering, H.R. (g) POWERS AND RESTRICTIONS.-Section October 23. 3447, improves the Congressional 7 by inserting "AND EVALUATION" after people, those between the ages of 14 program's management practices were "AUDITS" in the heading of such section; and 23, become eligible for a bronze, seriously wanting. H.R. 3447 addresses <2> by inserting "" after "SEc. 8"; and silver, or gold congressional medal these deficiencies directly: It requires <3> by striking "may be audited" and in­ after successfully completing require­ that the bylaws and other regulations serting in lieu thereof "shall be audited at ments in such areas as public service, of the Board contain language to pre­ least biennially"; physical development, personal devel­ vent a conflict of interest or the ap­ <4> by striking out "at such times as the opment, or demonstrated fitness at ex­ pearance of such conflict by employ­ Comptroller General may determine to be peditions. ees or board members and requires appropriate"; The program is established and ad­ that the bylaws include appropriate <5> by adding at the end thereof the fol­ lowing: ministered by a Congressional Award fiscal control, fund accountability, and "(b) The audit performed pursuant to sub­ Board. The board is not an agency or operating principles to ensure that the section shall at a minimum- instrumentality of the Federal Gov­ prohibitions against deficit spending "( 1 > assess the adequacy of fiscal control ernment. No Federal funds are appro­ in the act are satisfied. The need for and funds accountability procedures of the priated to the board under the act for this latter provision stems from the Board and such corporation; and administering the program. fact that at the end of the calendar October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29233 years 1983 and 1984, the program, in physical fitness. Funded solely by pri­ Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I violation of the act, was operating at vately raised funds, the program yield myself such time as I may con­ budget deficits of approximately awards medals to young people be­ sume. $236,000 and $114,000 respectively. tween the ages of 14 and 23 in those Mr. Speaker, I rise to further com­ A program that serves the useful congressional districts which have op­ mend the leadership of the chairman purpose of the Congressional Award erating awards councils. Currently of the subcommittee, the gentleman Program should be protected from the these councils exist in select districts from Montana [Mr. WILLIAMS], in en­ risk associated with deficit spending. in California, Florida, Illinois, Minne­ suring that this legislation and these I am confident that the amendments sota, Missouri, New Jersey, Ohio, Congressional Award Act amendments made to the Congressional Award Pro­ Texas, Virginia, West Virginia, and would provide for adequate oversight gram will improve its management Wyoming. by the Congress in strict accountabil­ practices significantly and contribute First authorized in 1979, the pro­ ity of the funds that are used in this to its very worthwhile purpose. Those gram presented a total of 255 awards program entitled the "Congressional in the private sector who contribute to in 1984 and 261 medals have been ap­ Award Amendments of 1985." It is the program deserve a commitment to proved for 1985. The young people true that neither the eagle nor the proper fiscal accountability by those who have received these awards have dome can be used in advertising, but who administer it. nevertheless the eagle and the dome Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of demonstrated a commitment to their community which exemplifies quali­ are included in the logo of the Con­ my time. gressional Award Act, and therefore Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I yield ties that we all can be proud of. I am certain that many of these award win­ there is at least the imprimatur. myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, I would note that what Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the assist­ ners will go on to become tomorrow's local, State, and National leaders. the subcommittee has done under the ance in this legislation from the gen­ very able leadership of the subcommit­ tleman from Texas, the ranking mi­ H.R. 344 7 supports and improves the Congressional Award Program. It has tee chairman is to focus on correcting nority member of our Select Educa­ the accountability and the manage­ tion Subcommittee. I want to recog­ the bipartisan support of the Educa­ tion and Labor Committee and deserv­ ment deficiencies of the congressional nize his statement that the Congres­ award management, while at the same sional Award Program has had some edly so. I congratulate the chairman management difficulties in the past, and ranking member of the Subcom­ time continuing the real purpose of and I want to tell my colleagues that mittee on Select Education for this the act, which is to encourage and in­ this legislation increases congressional fine piece of legislation. crease voluntarism among our young oversight of the Congressional Award Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I people by rewarding and recognizing Program. It does it in three primary yield 2 minutes to the distinguished that voluntarism. This is what makes ways. It adds four Members of Con­ gentleman from Florida [Mr. LEwis]. this generation of Americans I think gress to the executive board of the Mr. LEWIS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, one of the most exciting generations program; it requires at least one meet­ I rise in support of H.R. 3447, which of Americans ever. ing annually here in the District of extends the Congressional Awards It seems to me that those words Columbia; and it requires two General were summed up for me in a letter I Program through 1988. received, which I have quoted on the Accounting Office studies during this The Congressional Awards Council, authorization period of the activities House floor before, from two young which my 12th Congressional District people who recently became Ameri­ of the Congressional Award Program. initiated in February, held final cere­ We do not expect that there will be cans. They are Vietnamese-Americans. monies earlier this month. They came to my office and we had a any illegal activities, nor have we I was pleased that my district had found any in the past; but inasmuch little ceremony when they received the most award winners of any first­ their citizenship. These two young as this program bears the name of the time congressional award district in public's body, the House of Represent­ Americans live in Dallas, in my dis­ the Nation. trict, and they received their citizen­ atives, we simply want to be sure that Of the 44 medal winners of my area, the management of the program is ship almost 5 years to the day after two were gold medal winners. In addi­ they arrived. They had been in Viet­ conducted in the highest capacity. tion, each of the nine counties in my I also want to remind my colleague, nam long enough to see the Commu­ the gentleman from Texas, that the district had representatives on the nist takeover and see the other side, act authorizes the board to permit Congressional Awards Council. and upon arriving here they immedi­ donors to use only the name of the Each of these business and commu­ ately began working for their citizen­ board or the name "Congressional nity leaders worked diligently to ship. Award Program" in advertising. It ensure both the success and vitality of One of the young men, a 14-year-old does not permit the Congressional this program, which is essential in re­ Vietnamese American, and proud of Award Program to use the congres­ inforcing young people for pc.sitive being both, sat down and wrote a sional symbol or seal in advertising by deeds. letter on what his citizenship meant to the donors. I thank the gentleman from Mon­ him, and in doing so he talked a good Mr. Speaker, I have no further re­ tana for bringing this legislation to bit about volunteerism and service to quests for time, and I yield back the the floor, I urge its adoption, and I his country. Maybe he reminded some balance of my time. thank the gentleman for yielding to of us older people, some of us who are Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I me to express my viewpoint on this older and who have lived in America yield such time as he may consume to great program. all our lives, of what we too often take the ranking minority member of the I think it is time that we started for granted. Committee on Education and Labor, showing the positive aspects of our This young man wrote the words: the gentleman from Vermont [Mr. youth rather than the negative. There United States citizens are fortunate to be JEFFORDS]. are more positive aspects out there allowed to express their opinions freely. Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, the than there are negative. I certainly This is a privilege few nations have. Ameri­ hope that we can continue this pro­ cans also have the freedom of movement. Congressional Award Program repre­ They can go wherever they want, inside or sents a partnership between the pri­ gram throughout and that it broadens outside the country. Fair treatment is some­ vate sector and Congress toward the throughout this great country, be­ thing that not many nations enforce. Ameri­ goal of recognizing young Americans cause these young people should be ca's legal system ensures justice. This coun­ who exhibit qualities of leadership, recognized for their services to the try has a democratic government which community service, and a dedication to community. allows- 29234 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 I stop on that word "allows," and I Each of us involved in this program has encouraged achievement and voluntary will come back to it, because he did­ experienced a tremendous sense of accom­ service among our younger generation. which allows every citizen to take part in plishment and pride in what these fine The idea for the Congressional Award controlling the government. America is young people have done. They have made was first brought to me in the late 1960's by truly a government of the people, by the themselves, their peers, their adult leaders a constituent, Dr. Frank Arlinghaus of people and for the people. and their communities proud of the indi­ Rumson, NJ. As a Columbia University stu­ Mr. Speaker, I would come back to vidual's capacity to face and meet with suc­ dent at that time, Dr. Arlinghaus was very the word "allows" us to participate in cess the challenges before us. And they in­ concerned that young people were becom­ the Government because this young spire each of us to follow their example. ing increasingly alienated from their gov­ Vietnamese American captured the es­ That is why this program is such a success. ernment. He felt that this was due in part sence of youthful volunteerism of this Mr. MOLLOHAN. Mr. Speaker, it is with to the failure of Government and adult so­ generation when he modified his word great pleasure that I lend my support to ciety to pay attention to the concerns of "allows" in his postscript. He said: H.R. 3447, the Congressional Award Act, young Americans and to properly recognize P.S. Congressman, I will do everything I which would reauthorize the Congressional their unique contributions. can for my country. Award Program which I sponsor in the It took a number of years for us to gen­ First Congressional District of West Vir­ erate the kind of national support for the The Congressional Award Act is one ginia. of those organizations through which program necessary to secure its enactment, I commend Mr. WILLIAMS, the distin­ but in 1979, our bill was signed into law by we have the ability to recognize young guished chairman of the House Education people who will do and are doing ev­ President Carter. and Labor Subcommittee on Select Educa­ The first Congressional Award Program erything they can for their country. tion, for his guidance in extending this Mr. KINDNESS. I urge my colleagues' on a congressional district level was estab­ positive program for 3 additional years and lished in my district in 1983. Since then, I support for H.R. 3447, the Congressional for his timely action in bringing this meas­ am proud to say, we have held four award Award Amendments, to reauthorize a pro­ ure to the House floor for consideration ceremonies honoring some 116 young gram which has been important in recog­ today. nizing the hard work, dedication, and Since my involvement with the Congres­ people who have earned bronze, silver, and achievement of young Americans. sional Award Program, I have had the ex­ gold medals. Perhaps I could best summarize that im­ treme pleasure to recognize 44 young To truly appreciate the program, it is portance by quoting the letter I received people in West Virginia for their voluntary necessary to attend one of these award from a parent of one of the tlrst awardees public service, personal development and ceremonies. It is an inspiring and often­ in my home State of Ohio. He wrote, fol­ physical fitness/ expeditions achievements. times emotional experience to see these lowing the ceremony, that those "who In all. I have presented 20 bronze, 16 silver outstanding young people honored for their stood to be honored were not just your or­ and 8 gold medals to deserving youth. personal achievements and for their volun­ dinary teenagers. These young men and There are many other young people now teer work with the poor, elderly, or handi­ women are the doers in their communities, working toward their medal requirements capped. Occasionally, the medal recipients who put others before themselves, and, with the enactment of H.R. 3447, I will are handicapped themselves and the pro­ the leaders in their schools and the ones have the opportunity to work with these gram has provided them with the kind of who exemplify all the things that are good and other young people on their goals and incentive necessary to accomplish extraor­ about our youth." reward them for their accomplishments. dinary tasks. Always, recognition is be­ These young people are not "ordinary" There are few programs that bring to­ stowed during these ceremonies that would because by their action they have become gether a Congressman and his constituents have been overlooked if the Congressional something more. One of the greatest values in a bipartisan atmosphere for such a Award Program were not in existence. of the problem is that it recognizes not just worthy cause. Through the Congressional The Congressional Award has been an those youth who always are out front and Award Program in my district, I have had outstanding success in my district even who always will "shine" because of their the opportunity to establish relationships though we have had to operate on a very talents and circumstances. The Congres­ with the members of the First District, small budget. Our success is due in large sional Award Program offers opportunities West Virginia, Congressional Award Coun­ part to the enthusiasm of a core group of for those quiet, behind the scenes, hard­ cil, county coodinators in each of my 13 adult volunteers who give generously of working young people to be acknowledged counties, county committee members, as their time to operate the program, raise and commended for their contributions. well as young people and their parents who money and reach out to young people in As an example of this latter group, we choose to participate in the Congressional our local schools and in youth organiza­ experienced in our Ohio awards program Award Program. This program brings to­ tions. The community and the news media this year the presentation of a silver award gether young and old from all walks of life have also greeted the Congressional Award to a young lady who was the first person in for a common positive theme: volunteering. with great enthusiasm and, most important, her family ever to complete high school. I encourage my colleagues to support young people are participating in the pro­ This probably was the only visible outside H.R. 3447 and to become familiar with the gram in large numbers and spreading the recognition this young lady ever received. Congressional Award Program so that you word to their peers. The looks of pride on the faces of her may sponsor it in your district, if you are Still, we have recognized in the imple­ family were incredible. not already a sponsor. mentation of this new program the need Our awards council has done an out­ Mr. HOWARD. Mr. Speaker, I rise in for some changes in the original authoriz­ standing job. The members represent a va­ support of the Congressional Awards Act ing legislation. I support the changes rec­ riety of backgrounds, interests, and activi­ amendments which reauthorize and make ommended by the Subcommittee on Select ties, but when they sit down to consider the some changes in the Congressional Award Education of the Education and Labor direction of the program or the application Act which I sponsored in 1979. Committee. I believe the amendments will of a young person their differences vanish Many of us with Congressional Award result in an even closer relationship be­ as they pull together for one purpose-rec­ Programs operating in our districts have tween the Congressional Award and the ognition of the accomplishments of an indi­ had the opportunity over the last few years Congress and will encourage further expan­ vidual. to observe the program in action. There is sion of the program. Our State officials in Ohio have been no doubt in my mind that the Congression­ I also want to congratulate the subcom­ very supportive of the program, as well. al Award has had great success in meeting mittee chairman, the gentleman from Mon­ Our awards ceremony was held in the State the goals Congress set for it. Thousands of tana [Mr. WILLIAMS] for the fine job he has senate chamber in Columbus, at which young people around the country have done with this legislation. Under his leader­ each awardee was presented an additional gained immeasurably from their associa­ ship, the Congressional Award promises to certificate of commendation from each tion with the program. And we as a nation reach its fullest potential as a bridge be­ house of the State legislature. will be better off for having recognized and tween young people and their government. October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29235 Mr. BARTLETI'. Mr. Speaker, I <1> recognizes the lOth anniversary of en­ We are currently doing a better job yield back the balance of my time. actment of Public Law 94-142 and the suc­ of identifying and serving students. cessful implementation of that law; GENERAL LEAVE <2> acknowledges the many and varied Eleven percent of all school-aged stu­ Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I ask contributions by disabled youngsters, par­ dents in the 1983-84 school year were unanimous consent that all Members ents, teachers, and administrators; and diagnosed as being handicapped com­ may have 5legislative days in which to <3> reaffirms its support for Public Law pared to only 8 percent in 1977-78, the revise and extend their remarks, and 94-142 and the primary goal of Public Law first year Public Law 94-142 became to include extraneous material, on the 94-142 that all children, regardless of dis­ effective. There has also been an in­ bill under consideration. abling condition, have the right to a free, creased emphasis on serving the more The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is appropriate public education in the least re­ strictive setting. severely disabled students in the there objection to the request of the school system. gentleman from Montana? The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is a second demanded? Growth in serving handicapped chil­ There was no objection. dren has been accompanied by an even The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I question is on the motion offered by demand a second. greater increase in the total number of the gentleman from Montana [Mr. The SPEAKER pro tempore. With­ teachers and staff providing that edu­ WILLIAMS] that the House suspend the out objection, a second will be consid­ cation. There has been a 34-percent in­ rules and pass the bill, H.R. 3447, as ered as ordered. crease in the number of teachers and a amended. There was no objection. 48-percent increase in the number of The question was taken; and , That the Con­ school programs for handicapped chil­ gress- dren. 29236 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 PERMISSION FOR COMMITTEE ON WAYS educational system rests on two char­ these Members deserve special men­ AND MEANS TO FILE REPORT ON H.R. acteristics of that process: First, edu­ tion. 2 81 7, SUPERFUND AMENDMENTS OF cational services are delivered to a Mr. Speaker, Public Law 94-142 is 1985 handicapped student on an individual­ truly a landmark for millions of per­ Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I ask ized basis so that every educational sons with handicaps and their fami­ unanimous consent that the Commit­ program provided to a student with lies. We should all be proud of its ac­ tee on Ways and Means have until handicaps is tailored specifically to complishments and its promise. midnight tonight to file the report on that student's unique educational Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of H.R. 2817, the Superfund Amend­ needs; and second, parents of handi­ my time. ments of 1985. capped students participate in the Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I have The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is education decisionmaking process as no additional requests for time, and I there objection to the request of the full partners along with other mem­ yield back the balance of my time. gentleman from Florida. bers of a multidisciplinary educational Mr. BARTLE'IT. Mr. Speaker, I There was no objection. team. The benefits of this increased yield such time as he may consume to Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I re­ decisionmaking authority on the part the gentleman from Vermont [Mr. serve the balance of my time. of parents has meant that skills JEFFORDS]. Mr. BARTLE'IT. Mr. Speaker, I taught at school are more likely to yield myself such time as I may con­ relate directly to a handicapped stu­ 0 1405 sume. dent's total environment. Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, I Mr. BARTLE'IT. Mr. Speaker, I am Public Law 94-142's 10 years have thank the gentleman for yielding me particularly pleased to voice my sup­ been years of partnership between this time. port of House Concurrent Resolution parents, educators, and administra­ Mr. Speaker, I am particularly 201 commemorating the lOth anniver­ tors. As in all innovative endeavors, pleased to note my support for House sary of Public Law 94-142, the Educa­ the program has not been without Concurrent Resolution 201 commemo­ tion for All Handicapped Children Act. controversy, but that should not sur­ rating Public Law 94-142, the Educa­ For the past 3 years I have served as prise anyone who is even the least bit tion of All Handicapped Children Act. the ranking Republican member of familiar with the complexities of pro­ the Subcommittee on Select Education I was fortunate enough, as a member viding an appropriate education to a of the Education and Labor Commit­ with jurisdiction over the act. In that student with handicaps. time I have reviewed first hand the tee, to have participated in the consid­ Public Law 94-142 has meant greater eration of the original legislation workings of the program that has independence and opportunity for stu­ turned night into day for millions of which was to become Public Law 94- dents whose handicaps range from 142. Our efforts were to assure that American handicapped students and severe to mild. It has, in the process, their families. Prior to 1975, handi­ handicapped children would receive a broadened our definition of education. free, appropriate education in our capped students could never make the We have been taught to appreciate the primary assumption that nonhandi­ public school systems. fact that all persons, regardless of Today over 4 million handicapped capped students have made, namely, their physical condition or mental ca­ that the public school system would students receive a special education provide them with free and appropri­ pacities, are educable, that is capable designed to meet their unique educa­ ate education. Today, due to the exist­ of experiencing the change in behav­ tional needs. In Vermont, State fund­ ence of Public Law 94-142, handi­ ior that we commonly call learning. ing for special education increased by capped students are entitled to a free Because of Public Law 94-142 we un­ 100 percent following the enactment and appropriate education. To the derstand that learning to feed oneself, of Public Law 94-142. Vermont now re­ maximum extent possible, these learning a complex vocational assem­ ceives $1,928,334 in Federal support handicapped students are schooled bly, or learning to master a word proc­ for its 7,400 special education stu­ alongside their nonhandicapped peers. essing system are essentially similar dents. The unique service delivery Fortunately, it seems like another tasks. Each of these skills require in­ system which has been developed in era when handicapped children were struction and the opportunity to learn Vermont has been replicated in other routinely denied educational services in order to be mastered. Public Law 94-142 has given handicapped students small rural States to the benefit of or segregated into substantial facili­ handicapped students and their fami­ ties. It also seems long ago that our that opportunity and thousands of dedicated special educators have pro­ lies. education curriculums for persons Public Law 94-142 has led to in­ with handicaps focused on nonfunc­ vided the appropriate instruction. I think it is only fitting at this time creased preschool services and a recog­ tional, repetitive tasks intended to fill nition that handicapped adults, given time and occupy the handicapped stu­ to recognize the Members of Congress dent rather than provide them with who were instrumental in the develop­ the proper training in the public skills leading to independence and dig­ ment passage of Public Law 94-142. school system, are capable of being nity. Today, handicapped and nonhan­ Public Law 94-142 has continuously competitively employed. We have de­ dicapped students are educated to­ generated bipartisan support which is veloped a pool of special educators gether and not only learn from class­ reflected in its legislative origins. In whose dedication and technical exper­ room instruction, but also from each 1975 when this act was passed, key tise is unmatched. other. In many ways, the most pro­ members of the Subcommittee on Public Law 94-142 has transformed found impact of Public Law 94-142 Select Education as well as members the educational services that we pro­ may well be the education that non­ of the Education and Labor Commit­ vide to students with handicaps. It has handicapped students and staff learn tee who played critical roles included: accomplished what this body hopes all about handicapped individuals and the John Brademus and Albert Quie, the of its initiatives can accomplish-it has challenges that they face. These non­ chairman and ranking member of the significantly improved the lives of mil­ handicapped individuals are learning subcommittee, Representatives JAMES lions of American children and their about the range of human conditions JEFFORDS, GEORGE MILLER, LARRY PRES­ families. There is no greater testimony and the attitudes they manifest. SLER, Frank Thompson, BILL FORD, to a statute than this. Public Law 94-142 is essentially a Phil Burton, PAUL SIMON, Edward In my 10 years in this body I have process for determining what consti­ Beard, and the late chairman of the not been involved in any legislation tutes an appropriate education for a Education and Labor Committee, Carl which has given more self-satisfaction handicapped student. The innovation Perkins. On a day when the House is nor, in my mind, benefited more that Public Law 94-142 brings to our commemorating Public Law 94-142, people than this. October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29237 Mr. DYMALLY. Mr. Speaker, on Novem­ cially the gentleman from Montana, not society if their needs are properly ad­ ber 29, 1985, a landmark piece of social leg­ only for their desire to commemorate the dressed during their school years. In a islation was signed into law. Public Law lOth anniversary of Public Law 94-142, but study released by the Select Committee on 94-142, known as the Education for All also for their hard work and complete dedi­ Children, Youth, and Families, the chair­ Handicapped Children Act, has had a sig­ cation to the education of all handicapped man and ranking minority member singled nificant, beneficial impact on the way our children. out Public Law 94-142 as one of the eight Nation's schools educate the handicapped. It is indeed an honor to be a part of the most effective children's programs passed Public Law 94-142 laid out fundamental proceeding before this body today. Ten by the Congress. As part of its findings, the principles that have since guided educa­ years ago, on November 29, 1975, this law study evaluated a survey, conducted by the tional programs for the handicapped. was signed by President Ford. It estab­ Colorado Department of Education, which The law now requires that children with lished policy calling for a free and appro­ indicated that of the high school graduates handicaps be assessed as to the nature of priate education for all children regardless who participated in special education pro­ their handicaps and that special education­ of their disability. Today, this law serves 4 grams, nearly 70 percent were working at al services be provided that would allow million children across this Nation and least part time and making a significant each such child to be educated in a non­ provides $1 biilion in Federal aid to assist contribution to their own support. It is segregated, free, and appropriate manner. States in their efforts to comply. findings like these which should spur both A key feature of the law is that determina­ Over these many years our society has Congress and the administration into great­ tion of the handicapped child's needs must come a long way in our efforts to make all er action to support and fund these pro­ be based on the actual needs of the child levels of education available to the handi­ grams. and not on the availability of services in capped in the most integrated and least re­ The education of our children has been the school at the time the evaluation is strictive way possible. Studies show that of tremendous importance to the Congress. made. the number of handicapped students on In light of the deficit crisis, when we are all There is no doubt that the legislation campuses has grown from 2.7 per­ looking to programs which must be cut, I caused a sometimes difficu!t reorientation cent in 1978 to 7.3 percent in 1984. Present­ sincerely hope that programs such as pro­ in focus within schools across our Nation. ly, 23 States have mandated legislation for That is, the law caused school officials to the provision of educational services to viding education for the handicapped wiii focus on the child's needs rather than on handicapped children under the age of 5. be preserved. I firmly believe that each current institutional services availability. These are but a few statistics that are indic­ child, no matter what the individual needs Difficult as that refocusing may have been ative of our Nations continued and growing may be, deserves the chance to participate in certain instances, it was a necessary re­ commitment to handicapped education. in our society. It is laws such as Public focusing. It was the right refocusing. Mr. Speaker, thank you for this time and Law 94-142 which provide them with such The most tangible indication of the good again I applaud my colleagues for their ef­ an opportunity and for that reason, I am this law has worked is the fact that during forts and interest on behalf of handicapped pleased to lend my wholehearted support to the 1983-84 school year, 4.3 million handi­ students. this law. capped children were able to receive a free Mr. ECKART of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, this Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, and appropriate public education. The chil­ week we are commemorating the lOth anni­ I rise in strong support of this resolution dren were obvious winners here. But the versary of the Education of the Handi­ honoring the lOth anniversary of Public whole of our society is a winner as well. capped Act, more commonly known as Law 94-142, the Education for All Handi­ The revolution in educational philosophy Public Law 94-142. The enactment of this capped Children's Act. engendered by Public Law 94-142 has important legislation has afforded millions I am proud to be an original cosponsor meant that miilions of students have been of handicapped children in this country the of this commemorative resolution, as I was afforded the opportunity to become produc­ chance to receive an education appropriate proud to coauthor the original biii in 1975. tive members of our society. These are to their needs and abilities. Today this law, In fact, this was one of the very first bills people who without this -act would have which serves 4 million disabled children, which I helped write when I entered Con­ been shunted to the back roads of educa­ has proven extremely successful as many gress a decade ago. tion. of them can contribute to our society The district which I am honored to repre­ Moreover, I believe Public Law 94-142 rather than rely on the Government for sent has been in the vanguard of providing has helped to bring about a fundamental their well-being. educational and other services to handi­ change in public attitudes toward the The foundation of this Nation, and its capped youngsters. For me, there is a very handicapped. The positive public attitude laws, has been built on the belief that each personal association, because my father, that has occurred in part because of the act man and woman should be allowed free­ George Miller, Jr., was a vigorous propo­ has shown us how debilitating had been the dom and independence. Public Law 94-142 nent for the disabled during his years in old isolationist attitudes toward the handi­ provides these to a significant segment of the California State Legislature. In fact, capped. We know in retrospect that in our population who, prior to the law's en­ there are two schools for the disabled in some cases public attitude was more of an actment a mere decade ago, found it diffi­ my district which are named after my obstacle to full participation of the handi­ cult to receive a proper education. It is this father because of his years of commitment. capped in our society than was the physical education which allows these citizens to The parents of disabled youngsters in my handicap itself. The gradual removal of gain the confidence and knowledge to district have long been extremely commit­ that obstacle has been a boon to the handi­ become active participants in our society. ted to the education of their children. capped, certainly, but it has been an even This law, by requiring that the local edu­ While I cannot name them all, I want to greater blessing to the country. cation agencies, schools, parents, and chil­ give special recognition to several who Today, we are considering House Concur­ dren all work together to develop an indi­ have been most active, including: Pam rent Resolution 201 to commemorate the vidualized education program, ensures that Steneberg, Diane Lipton, and Jeanne King lOth anniversary of Public Law 94-142. I the unique needs of each particular student of Parents Advocates for Special Educa­ wholeheartedly support the law and the wiii be met. In addition, the law, through tion; Madelyn Sitrin and Sunny Grammont resolution commemorating its passage. mainstreaming, allows each handicapped of the Developmental Disabilities Council; Public Law 94-142 is one of the most en­ child to receive an education in the least Beverly Casebeer, Jean Styris of Crunch; lightened laws, the Congress has ever restrictive environment. This measure pro­ Karen Baker of the Mount Diablo schools; brought to enactment. It is richly deserving vides the child with a far greater chance to Joanna Cooper of Pase and George Miller, of our commemoration. become part of our society than if they West; La Verne Bell; Betty Hodge of Mount Mr. MARTINEZ. Mr. Speaker, I rise were educated in the confines of an institu­ Diablo schools; and Judy Miiler of the today in support of House Concurrent Res­ tion. Harmon Parent Group. olution 201, and I would like to take this Public Law 94-142 confirmed Congress' I also want to acknowledge the outstand­ opportunity to commend my colleagues on recognition that children who have special ing contributions of some of our local the Education and Labor Committee, espe- needs can become active members of our school administrators, including: Pete 29238 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 Gonos, the director of the special education riers are broken and all handicapped chil­ chance to gain experience and skills for local plan committee; Joe Ovick, the direc­ dren have the rights this law guaranteed future work. tor of special education for the county them a decade ago. The legislation has broad-based support office of education; Ken Butler, the direc­ Mr. BARTLETT. Mr. Speaker, I among a large number of organizations tor of special education for the Mount have no further requests for time, and and interest groups-the U.S. Chamber of Diablo Unified School District; and Steve I yield back the balance of my time. Commerce, the American G.l. Forum, the Cedarburg, the director of special educa­ GENERAL LEAVE Business Roundtable, the National Confer­ tion for the Richmond USD. These individ­ Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I ask ence of Black Mayors, the National Federa­ uals, together with parents and teachers of unanimous consent that all Members tion of Independent Businesses, and the list the handicapped, have made enormous con­ may have 5legislative days in which to goes on and on. tributions to these programs, and educated revise and extend their remarks, and Provisions in the legislation address the me about the need for even better programs include extraneous material, on the main concerns raised over allowing a sub­ for the disabled. concurrent resolution presently under minimum wage for youths. The bill pro­ It is also a special honor, on this lOth an­ consideration. vides safeguards disallowing the displace­ niversary of Public Law 94-142, that a de­ The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is ment of adult workers by youth. First, the voted educator from Contra Costa County, there objection to the request of the proposal is limited to the summertime; and Michael Grimes, currently serves as presi­ gentleman from Montana? second, the proposal contains an explicit dent of the Council for Exceptional Chil­ There was no objection. prohibition against discharging, demoting, dren. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The or transferring current employees. When we wrote this landmark law 10 question is on the motion offered by Studies have shown that enactment of years ago, we believed that all children de­ the gentleman from Montana [Mr. this proposal would create about 400,000 serve to be educated in an appropriate set­ WILLIAMS] that the House suspend the new summer jobs at the Federal level for ting, according to their special needs, re­ rules and agree to the concurrent reso­ youth, and this figure could increase to gardless of their handicap or disability. lution, House Concurrent Resolution 640,000 jobs if those States with minimum We believed then, as we now know, that 201, as amended. wage laws adopt the proposal. this approach is more cost-effective and The question was taken. The time has come to see some action on more conducive to family stability than ex­ this legislation which can help improve the cluding children from school, consigning Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. Speaker, on that, I demand the yeas and nays. futures of our Nation's young people. I them to institutions, or misclassifying them hope all my colleagues will consider the as retarded. The yeas and nays were ordered. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu­ merits of this proposal and join me in sup­ We believed then, as we now know that porting this much-needed legislation. parental participation in the education of ant to the provisions of clause 5, rule disabled children is absolutely essential I, and the Chair's prior announce­ and that every child has a right to have ment, further proceedings on this motion will be postponed. their particular needs evaluated and ad­ MY ADVICE TO THE PRIVILEGED dressed by their school. ORDERS The Select Committee on Children, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under Youth and Families, which I am honored PERSONAL EXPLANATION to Chair, has heard testimony on the enor­ a previous order of the House, the gen­ mous impact of this outstanding program. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under tleman from Texas [Mr. GONZALEZ] is Families have repeatedly testified that "but a previous order of the House, the gen­ recognized for 60 minutes. for this law," they would have no way to tleman from Florida [Mr. NELSON] is Mr. GONZALEZ. Mr. Speaker, there bring the fruits of education, and the possi­ recognized for 5 minutes. is a pattern of activity throughout the bility of participation in mainstream Amer­ Mr. NELSON of Florida. Mr. Speaker, country that has aroused my outrage ican life, to their children. due to official business, I was unable to be and anger. It seems that in more than So today, we can say the Education for present and voting for rollcall vote No. 371 one instance during the last year, All Handicapped Act is a success. It is now on October 24. Had I been present, I would groups of junior high school and high a right. But we have still failed to meet one have voted "nay" on the Fazio amendment school girls in Texas and other places of the key mandates of the law. The title to the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. were strip-searched because a sum of promises education to all handicapped chil­ money or some article-in this case, dren. $1.85-was reported missing some­ And yet, we in Congress have failed re­ where. peatedly to provide adequate support so SUPPORT LEGISLATION TO Now, this action is in reaction to the that more disabled youngsters can enjoy an ALLOW YOUTH EMPLOYMENT Reagan administration's victory at the appropriate education. Today, 10 years OPPORTUNITY WAGE Supreme Court level where it was de­ after the commitment was made, we are The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under cided that students are second-class still shutting the schoolhouse doors to mil­ a previous order of the House, the gen­ citizens when it comes to fourth lions of handicapped youngsters through­ tleman from Mississippi [Mr. MONT­ amendment rights regarding search out this Nation who are not seeking charity GOMERY] is recognized for 5 minutes. and seizure. Last January, the admin­ or pity, but the basic right to an education. Mr. MONTGOMERY. Mr. Speaker, I am istration argued before the Supreme Instead of just commemorative speeches cosponsoring legislation introduced by my Court that in order to fight crime and on this anniversary of the passage of fellow colleague from Mississippi, Repre­ drug abuse in the schools, teachers Public Law 94-142, I hope Members of this sentative TRENT Lon, which would allow and administrators should be allowed House will commit themselves to more an employer to pay a youth employment to search students and their lockers. than making a commemorative speech. I opportunity wages during the summer The Supreme Court agreed and ruled hope they will commit themselves to the months. The time has come for action on that the schools were proper places law which we are honoring. this type of legislation. Although we have for search, although in other circum­ I would hope that parents and handi­ experienced sustained economic growth in stances and conditions, it has not so capped youngsters, administrators and the last few years, the unemployment rate ruled up until now. The Court ruled teachers, throughout this country, will ask among the youth of this Nation remains that the schools' needs were enough to Members of Congress not whether they high. This legislation would allow employ­ justify search of students, more than voted for the commemorative resolution ers to provide employment opportunities anyone else. honoring Public Law 94-142, but whether for youth during the summer, give the The dissenting Justices in this case they voted for the legislation providing ade­ youth of this Nation a chance to earn some warned that this lessened the standard quate support for this law so that the bar- money, and allow our young people a of justice for students, and that it October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29239 would make it just as easy for school pay their taxes, who go to work every have reached the point where I think, officials to search for violations of a day, who do not have any foreign­ with sadness, we might ask, have we school dress code as to search for con­ sounding ethnic names or surnames, not for a mess of pottage given up our traband such as drugs and guns. How and all of a sudden the headlines blaze birthright? right the dissenting Justices have that they are spies. Mr. Speaker, at this point I would turned out to be. Of course, we want to avoid that like to place into the RECORD a copy of What is particularly horrifying to kind of activity, but in doing so is it an Associated Press dispatch, dated me is that the misapplication of this necessary that an open society, the October 28, concerning the search of newly established Supreme Court-ap­ only reasonable last remaining bul­ junior high school girls at the Cedar proved procedure in Texas is not the wark of freedom in the world, should first such misapplication. Last March imitate those that it is the last bul­ Hill, TX, school, and an article by Nat a similar event occurred in Ohio, wark from? I do not think so, but I Hentoff in the Washington Post of where 20 seventh-grade girls were think the matter has gone so far that May 9,1985. strip-searched while a schoolmate's Congress has for so many years looked The material is as follows: watch was reported as having been the other way, it has created out of its PARENTS OF STRIP-SEARCHED GIRLS WANT lost or stolen. In neither case were the legislative laboratory these legal TEACHERS FIRED missing funds or items recovered. Frankensteins and refuses to look CEDAR HILL, TX.-The father of a junior School officials have been given a them over. high girl who was among 15 students strip right to search if there are reasonable I can assure you that today, right searched for a missing $1.85 says the faculty grounds for believing a wrong has now, while I am speaking, the Nation­ members responsible for the search stole been committed. But what about the al Security Agency is monitoring every the children's dignity and should be fired. reasonableness of the search itself? It single international phone call that "What they really did was told our chil­ might make sense to search lockers comes in to American citizens. dren their pride and dignity wasn't worth and purses for missing items, but is it Is this legal? Is this supposed to be $2. It's only worth $1.85," said Bobby Huf­ reasonable to make junior high school done? stetler. girls strip to their bare skin? Surely Well, it depends on who you ask and Some of the parents of the Cedar Hill If Middle School girls who were strip searched this is not what the Supreme Court who is answering. you ask the mem­ are enraged by the action and say they plan and the Reagan administration intend­ bers of the Intelligence Committee of to ask the school board at its Monday night ed by their efforts to lessen the consti­ either the House or the Senate, they meeting to fire the physical education tutional rights of students. But for as will tell you they are not supposed to teacher and assistant principal involved. long as the Supreme Court has been be doing that, but that is not the issue. The students were ordered to remove deciding cases on search and seizure, The issue is that they are, and they their clothing Thursday when a girl in a they were very careful to make sure have and they have been doing so illic­ seventh-grade physical education class re­ that no matter how noble the intent, itly and in fundamental violaton of ported $1.85 missing. such a thing would not happen as a those things we have taken for grant­ "This is a violation of basic human direct result of their interpretation or ed for so long. rights," said Hufstetler "I feel like the misinterpretation in a given case. True, we live in an era that has for­ school owes the girls something besides 'I'm gotten the more halcyon epoch, when sorry.' She was completely 0 1415 if we went to the airport we did not devastated," he said. Certainly these are foreseeable have to go through a checking point, But other parents say they still support if physical education teacher Janice Ellis and events. Any dictator, and we have in but we take that for granted, or you Jeanne Cothran, the assistant principal who America reached a point where with come to the Halls of Congress and you authorized the search. the acquiescence of the American are a visitor and you want to go up to Mrs. Ellis acted out of frustration after people ostensibly, we have eroded the the visitors gallery, you go through several thefts occurred during the year, the basic things that we take for granted the same proceeding. parents said, and added that they plan to in the way of personal freedom, free­ Our public buildings are teeming show support for the teacher at Monday's dom from unreasonable search and with guards, concrete pillars, bunkers, meeting. seizure. and everything else. On Friday, Ms. Cothran said the decision We have at the present moment Everybody has forgotten when we to search the students was made in haste three so-called intelligence agencies of were not enured to that kind of exist­ and frustration. our country spying through electronic ence. It is just that imperceptibly we "She was very frustrated. It surveillance and other means on are getting used to giving away our was the third day in a row that money was American citizens domestically in the basic freedoms of a great heritage stolen," Ms. Cothran said. "In the back of United States, contrary to the very never before enjoyed in any land, in my mind, I thought it might not be the purposes for which these intended ju­ right thing to do." any clime, or under the sky on this At least one girl was asked to strip com­ risdictional aspects that these agencies globe, but we are almost imperceptibly pletely while others were asked to strip were given at the time that Congress taking for granted that we should con­ down to their undergarments, parents said. set them up. done such procedures that I am re­ Still others were asked to remove their bras. The National Security Agency, NSA. porting, perpetrated against our young The missing money was not found. we hear a lot about the CIA, we hear a girls. Karen Kershaw, a friend of Mrs. Ellis, lot about the FBI, but very little of What are we to say? Are we to say said the parents have overracted. the NSA. and yet it is the most vastly that we have reached the point where "Naturally to them the girls have been complicated-beyond any kind of over­ without a murmur, without even a embarrassed, but someone is guilty of sight by President or Congress­ whimper, we lose these precious con­ theft," Ms. Kershaw said. "She was doing agency of any government on Earth or stitutional rights? what she though was right. In my feelings, the globe, including the Communist We live in that day and time, she has been treated unfairly regimes of Russia and others. though, in which national leaders and tried and convicted," Kershaw said. We cry about authoritarian govern­ themselves are foisting a near hysteria The search was conducted in Mrs. Ellis' ments, but we have done it to our­ office, which has a window looking out into and advocating remedies of this the locker room. selves in this case and we continue to moment, but which collapse. Last week Mrs. Ellis said the parents were do so, all with the best of intentions. We have seen this happen among "blowing it out of proportion.'' Of course, we want to catch those the issues that as legislators we have "Not one of the parents asked for my dastardly spies, but when they turn confronted through the years of a story," she said. "They came up here ready out to be actually long-time politically more sanguine nature, such as tax­ for blood." conservative American citizens who ation, such as interest rates, and we 29240 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 UP AGAINST THE WALL, SEVENTH GRADERS schools, issued a formal statement: "The to refrain from conducting their version of search was conducted in an orderly manner SDI under the broader interpretation? Scholastic Action is a magazine that tries . . . it is my belief that the staff involved There is no justification for a reinterpre­ to awaken the interest of half a million made the decision to conduct search activi­ tation after 13 years of mutual understand­ junior high school students around the ties after reasonable deliberation of the crit­ ical issues." ing and adherence to the ABM Treaty. In country in current events. Teachers have re­ those 13 years, we have had four separate ported that its March 22 issue was particu­ That's what the Supreme Court said was larly successful. One section began: needed in these situations-reasonableness. American and Soviet administrations and "Up against the wall." With the help of the American Civil Lib­ neither side has ever suggested that ad­ "Joey stretched his arms and put both erties Union of Ohio, 13 of the students are vanced technologies were not clearly hands on the cold, gray lockers. The man suing Leader, five members of the board of banned by the treaty. felt along Joey's sleeves. Then he felt down education, the principal, the assistant prin­ All of the original ABM Treaty negotia­ his chest and inside the pockets of his cipal and the three women who conducted tors, including Ambassador Paul Nitze, jacket. the strip search. They want an end to strip­ have consistently made clear that their un­ searching of students. Also, each seventh "Joey is not a criminal. The man frisking derstanding of the treaty was that it him is not a cop. Joey is a high school stu­ grader is asking for $38,000 in compensatory dent. The man who searched him is his his­ damages and another $38,000 in punitive banned the development and testing of tory teacher." damages. future ABM technologies. Of course, as a It was then explained to the students that It is the ACLU's contention that whatever loyal member of this administration, Am­ they were reading a hypothetical, as they the Supreme Court meant by reasonable­ bassador Nitze has toed the line on accept­ say in the law schools. But, they were told, ness in school searches, no reasonable adult ing the new interpretation. But only a few this kind of classroom search could not would interpret that word to mean a drag­ months ago, Ambassador Nitze said, in a happen as a result of a new Supreme Court net strip search of seventh graders. After speech before the National Press Club, that decision. Said Scholastic Action: "If any all, the majority of the justices did say that school official has good reason to believe the form of the search cannot be "excessive­ the ABM Treaty "prohibits the deployment you are breaking a school rule, he or she ly intrusive in light of the age and sex of of ABM systems in space or on the Earth, can search your locker, your desk or you." the student and the nature of the infrac­ except for precisely limited, fixed, land­ The section went on with a series of con­ tion." based systems." In addition, he went on to flicting reactions to the court decision from However, the words "excessively" and "in­ say that "all systems-whether nuclear or various parts of the country. The kids read­ trusive" may mean quite different things to otherwise-which have a capability to ing the magazine were then asked what eminently reasonable school officials and counter strategic ballistic missiles or their they thought. judges. During his dissent in T.L.O., Justice warheads at any point in their trajectory, The historic case, New Jersey v. T.L.O., William Brennan predicted that these had come down on Jan. 15. A majority of "amorphous" new standards for searching are subject to the ABM Treaty." the court decided that students can be school kids would create increased litigation I think my colleagues will find the testi­ searched by school personnel according to a as well as uncertainty among teachers and mony of two of the original participants of lower standard than adults. Instead of the administrators. The latter, Brennan said, the ABM Treaty especially illuminating on searchers needing "probable cause" to be­ are going to be "hopelessly adrift" in know­ this issue. I commend to my colleagues the lieve that a search will reveal evidence of ing when to search and how far to go. statements, before the Arms Control Sub­ wrongdoing, all that is required to search a The kids will be adrift too. There they student in school is "reasonable grounds" to committee, of Mr. John Rhinelander, are, the future guarantors of freedom in the former legal adviser to the ABM Treaty Ne­ go through his locker or him. world-but standing now, legs spread, up At the time, a former U.S. commissioner against the wall. gotiations, responsible for the drafting of of education, Dr. Harold Howe, did not the treaty language, and Ambassador share the general jubilation of teachers and Gerard Smith, former Chief of the U.S. Del­ administrators at this cut-rate constitution­ ABM TREATY egation to the ABM Treaty negotiations. al standard for school kids. The justices, he Both of these gentleman gave statements said, "have asked school authorities to be tional security. In addition, their state­ girls, all seventh graders, all under the age Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I would like ments show how the administration's new of 14, felt the palpable impact of the new to take this opportunity to call to the atten­ treaty interpretation resoundingly fails to Supreme Court ruling. Their lesson in the tion of my colleagues the administration's base its findings on the text and history of Constitution as a living document took place dangerous reinterpretation of the ABM the treaty and the understandings of its ne­ after a first-period gym class at Westwood Treaty. The Foreign Affairs Subcommittee gotiators. Junior High School, Elyria, Ohio. When the on Arms Control, International Security, I especially recommend sections Ill, IV, seventh graders came back to their locker and Science held hearings on this subject room, the physcial education teacher told and V of Mr. Rhinelander's testimony for a them a watch and ring belonging to a stu­ last week on October 24. From among a clear explanation of the circumstances sur­ dent were missing. First, the girls' lockers number of witnesses that day, the most in­ rounding the drafting and signing of the and purses were searched. The missing teresting testimony came from two gentle­ treaty. These sections in particular reveal property was not found. man who were participants in the original how misguided the administration's new in­ The assistant principal joined the gather­ negotiations that culminated in the Anti­ terpretation is. I have also included a copy ing and informed the seventh graders that Ballistic Missile Treaty: Ambassador of the ABM Treaty and pertinent articles their persons were now going to be Gerard Smith and Mr. John Rhinelander. searched. He warned that if they did not from the Washington Post and the New Their testimony makes clear the danger York Times. allow female school officials to do the job, of this foolhardy reinterpretation. If the the sheriff and his men would be called in. If the Congress has anything to say In the course of the strip-search of the United States continues to treat this broad­ about this-and it -toes-then we cannot let seventh graders, they were commanded to er interpretation as the legally binding ver­ this haphazard reinterpretation of the drop their jeans to the floor and tum sion, we will have invited the Soviets to treaty concocted in a matter of weeks over­ around as the physical education teacher, start up a program of development and turn a treaty that has made a vital contri­ the guidance counselor and a clerk-typist testing of advanced or "exotic" ABM tech­ bution to our national security for over 13 visually inspected their entire bodies. A 12- nologies. years. year-old described this lesson in civics: "We The President maintains that the admin­ STATEMENT OF GERARD C. SMITH had to take off our shirt and then we had to istration will conduct its SDI program take off our shoes. And then they looked Mr. Chairman and Members of the Sub­ down our bra to see if we had it or not." within the bounds of the stricter interpreta­ committee: The Administration has adopted No one did have the watch or the ring­ tion of the ABM Treaty. But if the adminis­ a new version of the ABM Treaty-a version anywhere. tration continues to support the broader in­ which will permit the United States and the On Feb. 8, after due deliberation, Calvin terpretation as the only legally binding Soviet Union to engage in much more exten­ Leader, the Elyria superintendent of one, what incentive is there for the Soviets sive work on space based defenses than October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29241 would have been permitted under the earli­ terns, rather than the less restricted posi­ appears to be that the Soviet Union did not er version which pertained from 1972 to tion that the Administration previously ad­ agree to the tighter legal standard that we 1985. In fact, the new version would permit vocated. I hope this committee will urge the had accepted. This seems a very strange ra­ any development and testing activities short President to do just that. tionale coming at a time when the Soviet of final deployment of a full space-defense The surprising results of the recent legal Union is pressing for a much more restric­ system. research of a new generation of SALT ex­ tive interpretation of the Treaty than ours. I would like to consider the impact that perts may in the end prove significant if The SDI has also become a source of con­ this new version may have on Soviet-Ameri­ they trigger a summit clarification of the al­ siderable difficulty for important allies. can relations, on America's relations with its lowable limits of research looking to space­ They seem to be less clear than the Admin­ allies, and on the SDI itself, I will leave to based ballistic missile defenses. But these istration that SDI is the key to arms control my colleague, John Rhinelander, the analy­ actions could backfire. The arms control re­ which for them is perhaps more important sis of the thrust of the ABM Treaty on this lation between the superpowers is in a frag­ than the United States in terms of domestic score as it was negotiated. ile state. The United States has refused to politics. It is reported that allies concerns The Administration now claims that for ratify the last three arms control treaties, generated by the revised version of the time being the new Treaty version is not in­ which it has negotiated with the Soviet Treaty were a major factor in Secretary of tended to alter SDI programs. But it is also Union. On top of this, the United States has State Shultz's efforts to blunt the impact of clear that the Administration feels free now unilaterally revised the last arms con­ National Security Advisor MacFarlane's for­ under the new version to alter the SDI pro­ trol treaty which it ·has ratified-and done mulation of the new legal revision of the gram any time that would appear advanta­ so in a radical fashion which goes to the ABM Treaty. I wonder if the NATO mem­ geous. So we have two possible criteria to heart of the bargain. bers will be satisfied with the confusing par­ guide the SDI. The so-called restricted No reason has been given for the Presi­ tial withdrawal of last week's MacFarlane policy and the new version. Although trea­ dential decision to hold for the time being doctrine. The NATO allies are now on ties are intended to produce some degree of to the traditional version of the Treaty in notice that the restrictive policy for the SDI predictibility in international relations, we spite of the new legal license to operate in program can be reversed at any time by the have introduced a new element of uncer­ fundamental violation of its provisions. If stroke of the pen of the Chief Executive. tainty in future relations. our Secretary of Defense's emotional claim For my own part I think the SDI at Although this issue is of special concern that SDI is our only hope for the future is present is, if anything, too ambitious a pro­ to the Senate, which consented to ratifica­ true, why this self-restraint? If the Presi­ gram which raises serious questions under tion of the ABM Treaty by a vote of 88 to 2 dent's claim is valid that SDI leads us to the previous restrictive version of the ABM in its earlier version, I think the House arms controls and total elimination of nu­ Treaty. I do however favor a robust pro­ would also have a special interest in the clear weapons, why would we want to put gram of research as an insurance policy legal basis for programs which it is being off that happy day by proceeding at a more against a future Soviet breakout from the asked to fund. The revised version of the leisurely pace than permitted by the new Treaty and as an aid to permit us better to Treaty alters it radically, and the threat of version of the Treaty? understand what the Soviet Union may be the revised version being applied at any It seems most unusual for a nation which up to. time must have a bearing on Congress' re­ holds itself to be a decade behind in its stra­ In conclusion, I commend this Committee sponsibility for the defense of the United tegic defense preparations to favor a new for its interests in this important issue and States-a responsibility which now involved version of the ABM Treaty that will free will urge them to seek a clarification on the large elements of arms control. the Soviet Union to make much greater ef­ true impact of the revised verison of the I should think the Congress would want to forts to hold or even increase its alleged ABM Treaty on the SDI program. have firm assurances that funds appropri­ lead. But this outcome, according to one ated for SDI work will not be spent for any U.S. official, is a "realistic" view of our new new purposes permitted under the new ver­ Treaty revision. STATEMENT OF JOHN B. RHINELANDER sion of the ABM Treaty as well as a clearer The Administration bases its case on al­ Mr. Chairman and Members of the Sub­ understanding of exactly what the so called leged ambiguities in the negotiating record. committee: My name is John B. Rhine­ restrictive policy encompasses. The con­ Unfortunately, under the time honored lander. I am currently a partner in the law fused and shifting status of the SDI rein­ rules of diplomatic privacy, the evidence is firm of Shaw, Pittman, Potts & Trowbridge forces the recent call by the Congressional not available. It would be a unique episode in Washington, D.C. I am also a member of Office of Technology Assessment for unusu­ in international negotiations to have a com­ the Board of Directors of the Arms Control ally strict congressional oversight of these pletely unambiguous record-especially in a Association, a member of the National Advi­ programs. bargaining process requiring 2V2 years. But sory Board of the Lawyers Alliance for Nu­ The question may fairly be asked: Is this be that as it may, the 13-year record for the clear Arms Control, and a member of the new Treaty version intended as a warning to parties holding to the original version ABA's Standing Committee on Law and Na­ the Soviet Union that if it does not improve should carry far greater weight than some tional Security. Previously, I have served as its behavior, the United States will switch statements reportedly inconsistent with the a law clerk to Justice John Marshall Harlan from a restrictive to a permissive treaty-au­ final language of the Treaty. and in five departments in the Executive. thorized SDI program. I take it that the Ad­ The ABM Treaty was a great policy ac­ I appear today in my individual capacity. ministration's answer to this would be that complishment of President Nixon's first My views do not necessarily represent those it wouldn't mind if that was the effect. term. It would be of interest to ascertain if of any of the organizations with which I am Why did the Administration decide to he believed that the Soviet Union has not presently affiliated. My statement repre­ float this new Treaty version just six weeks accepted his understanding of the Treaty's sents my best recollection, after discussions before a summit at which the ABM Treaty ban on the development and testing of with former colleagues on the SALT I dele­ was expected to be an important part? Was space-based systems. gation who are now out of government and it an exercise in playing hard ball? A ges­ Only two weeks before the White House a review of some of the available literature, ture of machismo? Such an explanation announcement of the new Treaty version, on the evolution of the ABM Treaty in would be consistent with the views of some six former Secretaries of Defense urged the President not to take have never seen the official ACDA history accommodation somewhere between the any steps to further erode the ABM Treaty. of SALT I which is also classified. I served Soviet pre-summit position of no research at Unfortunately, the experienced advice was as the legal adviser to the US SALT I dele­ all and the Reagan new version of no limits quickly rejected. gation from 1971-72. on strategic defense development? The Geneva communique of last January The primary issue before the Subcommit­ What should be done? I trust that the Ad­ called for negotiations to stop the erosion of tee today is whether Article V< 1 > of the ministration will take this opportunity at the ABM Treaty. The U.S. adoption of new ABM Treaty prohibits the development and the summit to try to find out whether the and radically permissive verison of the testing of space-based and other mobile-type Soviet Union accepts the previous interpre­ Treaty hardly reflects a deep commitment "exotic systems" . tation of the Treaty-a proposition that the to preventing its further erosion. This devel­ The secondary issue is whether any of the negotiators of the agreement believe and opment comes at a time when the Soviet Treaty's substantive constraints on "ABM the Administration seems to doubt. I would Union is calling for a less permissive Treaty systems or components" in Articles I<2>. IV, think that Mr. Gorbachev would reassure interpretation-one that would permit re­ V and IX apply to space-based "exotic sys­ the President on this point, since the Soviet search, but no development work outside a tems". The answers are four-fold: <1) the Union has been pressing for a substantially laboratory. The Administration's justifica­ prohibitions are clear from the text of the more restricted position on space-based sys- tion for its complete reversal of its position Treaty, particularly Article V which 29242 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 states, "Each Party undertakes not to devel­ that they have yet lost the argument and With particular respect to the Soviets and op, test or deploy ABM systems or compo­ stress Secretary Shultz did not state how their emphasis on "traditional" systems: nents which are sea-based, air-based, space­ long the Administration would continue to ABM deployment is limited to the one area based or mobile land-based"; <2> the negoti­ abide by the new "restrictive interpreta­ surrounding Moscow; ABM tests must be ating history, as interpreted in 1972 by the tion," which represents presidential policy limited to their two ABM test ranges; SALT I delegation and the backstopping rather than a matter of law. the development, testing and deployment of representatives in Washington, supports the The legal rationale for the "reinterpreta­ land-mobile "traditional" ABM systems and broad ban on space-based "exotic systems" tion" revolves around Agreed Statement D. components is prohibited; and the ban as the only permissible interpretation: <3> The argument is <1> that Article V con­ on the "upgrade" of surface-to-air this has been the interpretation of the Ex­ strains only "traditional" ABM technology systems remains in full force. However, ecutive, accepted and relied upon by Con­ any other result is radars>. and <2> therefore permits develop­ now legally could place in the field an un­ patently absurd and would frustrate the ment, testing and deployment of "exotic limited number of mobile land-based lasers stated premise of this Treaty of indefinite systems and components", but <3> Agreed across the Soviet Union provided they were tionwide ABM systems or a "base" for such to prohibit deployment only of "exotic" sys­ labeled for "test" purposes. a system. tems and components. With particular respect to the U.S., it is The Soviets accepted this interpretation This rationals is absurd as a matter of now free to exploit its own, and Western during the negotiations, reflected it in their policy, intent and interpretation. If the Ad­ technology, in the full pursuit of Star Wars. ratification proceedings, and have taken no ministration sticks with it as the best legal A full-scale, operational orbiting systems, actions and have not made any official interpretation of the Treaty. then the Ad­ with accompanying ground stations and in­ statements inconsistent with this interpre­ ministration has effectively repudiated the cluding as many as 100 to 400 killer satel­ tation. This is the only conclusion one can ABM Treaty as a legal instrument. If the lites and related sensors, could now be "le­ draw from their public statements which truncated Treaty remains in effect, then gally" put in place as an extensive "test pro­ sometimes deal with the issue implicitly and both the U.S. and Soviets can develop and gram" to prove out the new technology in a elliptically rather than explicitly. The Gor­ test, without quantitative or geographic BMD system configuration. U.S. allies bachev interview with Time editors includes limits, any sea-based, air-based, space-based would be free of any Treaty restraints to a specific statement, but without mention­ or mobile land-based ABM system or compo­ participate in two-way transfers of most ing Article V, before the U.S. "reinterpreta­ nent provided they are based on "exotic sys­ SDI technology, with the only "legal" con­ tion" became known. The TASS statement tems and components". straints on "west-west" SDI technology of October 9, responding to the U.S. "rein­ But the result could be even more far those under the Munitions Control and terpretation", removes any ambiguity from reaching. Because the Administration's new Export Administration Acts. the Soviet public position. Marshall Akhro­ interpretation is that Article V< 1 > and other This result is absurd. Unbeknownst to the meyev's lengthy comments on October 19, Articles of the Treaty do not apply to U.S. SALT I delegation, the SALT I back­ 1985, should lay to rest the Soviet public po­ "exotic systems" and Agreed Statement D stopping apparatus in Washington, the sition. blocks only their deployment, then the nec­ Nixon Administration and each of its suc­ The U.S. delegation in Geneva, and Mem­ essary consequences are that the limits on cessors, and Congress, the U.S. would now bers of Congress who are advisors, should "ABM systems or components" throughout be in the most one-sided Treaty relationship know whether the Soviets have made their the Treaty do not include "exotic systems". imaginable. Ambassador Sinith should be position explicit, and specifically tied to Ar­ This results in: given a retrospective decoration by the ticle V. in the Geneva negotiations since <1 > the deployment bans on a nation-wide Reagan Administration for one of the great 1972, since the President's Star Wars speech ABM defense, a base for such a defense, and feats in American diplomatic history! in March 1983, and since October 6, 1985. a regional ABM defense in Article 1(2), which Arms control agreements are viable only as Based on National Security Advisor were fundamental statements of the Trea­ long as they are in the net interests of each McFarlane's comments October 6 on NBC's ty's scope, are all limited to "traditional" party. Secretary Shultz has spoken of the Meet the Press, subsequent commentary on ABM technology, and do not Treaty," but Defense Secretary Weinberger, October 9 and my apply to "exotic systems"; Under Secretary Ikle, and Assistant Secre­ telephone conversation that day with <2> the words "currently consisting of" in tary Perle have repeatedly stated that they Deputy Secretary Taft at the Pentagon, the Article II< 1 >. intended to make clear that have no use for the ABM Treaty and the Administration had concluded that the So­ the Treaty applied to all ABM technologies sooner the U.S. is without it the better. viets never agreed to the U.S. position at and not just "traditional" ones, are ren­ They momentarily prevailed in a brazen ex­ SALT I, the Soviets cannot be held to abide dered devoid of meaning; ercise well described in a New York Times to it today and, therefore, the U.S. is not le­ <3> because Article IV dealing with ABM editorial by Anthony Lewis . gally bound. Deputy Secretary Taft told me test ranges explictly refers back to Article Unless the President or Congress repudiate that the General Counsel of DOD, the III Article V does not apply to all or DOD has known, of course, that under the systems and components" may be developed almost all SDI programs, and the Homing historic interpretation the evolution of SDI and tested, but not deployed, consistent Overlay Experiment which was a ki­ research into development and testing with the ABM Treaty. netic energy test with a single intercept would have to be stopped somewhere be­ On October 13, the President decided that mechanism> could have been tested in a tween 1988 and 1990 with this "reinterpretation". Based on a <5> the prohibitions in Article IX against unless either the Soviets agree to amand the Presidential directive, Secretary Shultz an­ transfers of ABM systems or their compo­ Treaty or the U.S. formally withdraws. nounced on October 14 in a speech before nents to other States, and deployment out­ From a policy and political point of view, six the thirty-first annual meeting of the North side national territories, apply only to "tra­ weeks before the Summit, the "reinterpreta­ Atlantic Assembly that "a broader interpre­ ditional" technology and not to "exotic sys­ tion" by the U.S. with respect to a legally tation of our authority is fully justified", tems". binding treaty could have been a disaster. but SDI "will be conducted in accordance The consequences of this "reinterpreta­ The first concrete U.S. response to the with a restrictive interpretation of the trea­ tion" are dramatic when one considers that Soviet proposal to cut ty's obligations." the principal U.S. concern has historically offensive forces by 50% was to repudiate the This leaves the U.S. legally free to return been with Soviet "breakout" capability ABM Treaty which, both had agreed last to the "reinterpretation" whenever the based on "traditional" or "low tech" sys­ January, is interrelated to any offensive President's advisors deem advantageous and tems. These remain tightly constrained not­ limitations. the President agrees. The story on October withstanding the "reinterpretation". On the One of the political reasons for the Ad­ 17 in the Washington Post other hand, most of SDI is now "legally" ministration's initial "reinterpretation" at makes this clear. DOD officials do not admit unconstrained by the Treaty. this time may have been DOD's attempt to October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29243 encourage more Allies to support SDI by ponents because only systems utilizing ABM Geneva.> Before the conclusion of the fifth participating in cooperative SDI "research". launchers, ABM missile and ABM radars negotiating session in September 1971, the covered "current" as well ment with the FRG shortly thereafter>. The other substantive Articles always re­ as "exotic" technologies. The U.S. delegates Foreign corporations, particularly in the ferred to "ABM systems" and to "compo­ agreed that the Americans on this working United Kingdom and West Germany, might nents" to make clear the U.S. position that group had cause cooperation might be extended from systems. carried out the President's instructions. The ABM "research", which is all that is permit­ The Soviet draft of March 1971 contained brackets around "develop" in that para­ ted under the historic U.S. interpretation, prohibitions on testing and deployment of graph in Article V in the Joint Draft Text to include now "development and testing" "space-based" in what is now Article V. as were subsequently removed in the drafting with full sharing and two-way transfers. did my drafts of May-June 1971 which, I be­ group during the sixth negotiating session The actual effect on U.S. Allies was the lieve, added "develop." The gist of this arti­ after both delegations had noted their ap­ reverse because the political fallout of this cle was derived from the August 4, 1970 pro­ proval. The Administration now contends full sharing in SDI technology directly asso­ posal by the U.S. for bans on production, that either the Soviets never agreed with ciated with ABM systems or components testing and deployment of all mobile-type the U.S. interpretation or that the Soviets would have been the implicit or explicit rati­ ABM systems. later modified their agreement or changed fication by Allied governments of the repu­ The drafts of May-June 1971 were re­ their interpretation during negotiations diation of the ABM Treaty. That is a role viewed by members of the SALT delegation over Agreed Statement D. The U.S. mem­ that none is prepared to accept or condone, while in Washington. Some of them had sharply differing views on "exotic systems" bers on this Working Group would sharply including the United Kingdom. Margaret differ with this view. Thatcher earlier had achieved at Camp and other questions. The major sticking point then, and David the President's agreement to four III basic principles relating to SDI. Compliance through late into the sixth negotiating ses­ The fifth negotiating session began in sion, was on fixed land-based systems. U.S. with the ABM Treaty was one of them. The Helsinki in early July 1971. After taking political cost in West Germany and the instructions were to preserve the right to into account the President's written instruc­ develop and test, but not to deploy, fixed Netherlands might be much trim Agreement to Washington, and sought higher for their governments and NATO as thorize deployment of only ABM systems authorization to table them in a plenary ses­ and components which are based on "cur­ a whole. sion. On the "exotic systems" questions, the The remainder of my statement sets forth rent" technology. Further, development and delegation was split. Gerard Smith wrote in testing, whatever the technology, of fixed my views on the negotiation and meaning of Doubletalk: The Story of SALT I the deployment of fixed land-based and also be banned. The front channel had pro­ papers and the technical characteristics of <2> the development, testing and deploy­ duced an achievement of incalculable the weapons, and in discussions with mem­ ment of all other basing modes. The Joint value." bers of the U.S. delegation. I also prepared Chiefs of Staffs were particularly interested rough first drafts of texts. The negotiating in preserving the option to develop and test IV session ended in May 1971, shortly after the fixed-land-based lasers. The President's de­ The Article III issue was not resolved "May 20 understanding" between the US cision preserved this option, as does the until late in the sixth negotiating session. It During the remainder of May and in June Cold Dawn: The Story of SALT The U.S. proposed single, fixed land-based ABM system with ticle in its ABM Treaty in mid-August 1971. the "currently consisting of" phrase which 100 ABM launchers and no limits on ABM The Soviets initially balked at discussing, was agreed upon for Article II to make clear radars within the deployment areas. This let alone agreeing to any limitations on, that the Treaty was not limited to "tradi­ text was vague, imprecise and, among other "exotic systems". They were probably with­ tional" technology. The U.S. proposal for things, an invitation to pursue and deploy out any instructions on this issue and may the "except that" formulation for Article both stand-alone components, such as long have felt the U.S. was on an intelligence­ III was accepted which made clear that lead-time ABM radars, and ABM systems fishing expedition. Progress was soon made fixed land-based "exotic" systems could not based on "exotic" technologies. In my nevertheless. Various working groups and a be deployed. The ban against a nationwide drafts, I turned Article III around into the drafting group were set up to seek agree­ defense or "base" for such a defense in Arti­ form eventually agreed upon and also tight­ ment issue by issue. Joint Draft Texts of cle 1(2), which was a Soviet initiative intend­ ened it. the Soviet and U.S. drafts of the Treaty ed in part to deal with "exotic systems", was Article III, as drafted, prohibited deploy­ were prepared with disagreed language, agreed. In each case, agreement was ad ref­ ment of any ABM system or components which at first was extensive, in brackets. erendum to the delegations. Together, these except those in the deployment areas and as The Graybeal-Karpov Working Group fo­ textual provisions completed all the key limited quantitatively, qualitatively and geo­ cused on Article V. with respect to Moscow Summit. When the delegation re­ general Article 1(2). "exotic" systems was clear and that none of turned to Washington, and the transmittal The U.S. had originally proposed a para­ the delegates nor their advisors disagreed with that were being prepared under White House stated: "Each party undertakes not to advice. I recall no indication that the Sovi­ control, Henry Kissinger directed that all deploy ABM systems using devices other ets thought otherwise. than ABM interceptor missiles, ABM "understandings" be culled from the negoti­ During SALT I the US delegation, and ating record and made public to refute criti­ launchers or ABM radars to perform the particularly Washington, did not insist on cism of secret agreements. This was the der­ functions of these components". Double­ the kind of precision reached in the SALT ivation of the SALT I Common Understand­ talk, pp. 265, 343-44. The Soviets balked at II Treaty with its 98 Agreed Statements and ings. The search of the files for Com­ any Treaty language and, subsequently, the Common Understandings. The Soviets stub­ initial U.S. proposal for an agreed interpre­ bornly resisted the level of textual detail mon Understandings limited. It did not tation. Eventually the Soviets proposed a the US had initially sought at SALT I. Nei­ cover all the myriad of agreed understand­ counter draft. This was modified several ther the President nor Henry Kissinger ings reached in less formal ways during the times at U.S. insistence . statement for the record of the Senate could be deployed. The final compromise the U.S. delegation identified the two US Armed Services Committee, prepared after language was proposed by Garthoff to the ABM test ranges and the Soviet test range inter-agency review of reporting cables, on Soviets in late January 1972 and early in at Sary Shagan. The Soviet response noted the difference between research and devel­ February Kishilov informed Garthoff of national technical means permitted the opment for purposes of Article V. It in­ Soviet agreement. This was eventually identification of test ranges. The U.S. delegation Secretary for DDR&E John Foster, and ments were initialed on May 26, 1972 by noted immediately that the Soviets did not Acting Chief of Staff of the Army General Ambassadors Smith and Semenov. respond to the U.S. identification of Sary Palmer, all to Senator Jackson, that devel­ Agreed Statement D refers to, and inter­ Shagan as their ABM test range, but the opment and testing, as well as deployment, prets, Article III only, although the refer­ delegation believed the Soviet response re­ of space-based "exotic systems" were pro­ ence to "other physical principles" and flected extreme Soviet sensitivity to any dis­ hibited. Senator Jackson . While mid-1970s the Soviets claimed a second "cur­ favor of the ABM Treaty, understood this the language is admittedly opaque, the U.S. rent" ABM test range at Kamchatka based point clearly. -He was probably the most has always understood that Agreed State­ on the presence of an old rader. Paul Nitze knowledgeable Senator on the impact of ment D reinforced Articles 1(2) and III and has referred to this negotiating technique as SALT I on weapons programs. Finally, Sen­ reinforced the prohibition on deployment of unworthy of bazaar traders. I agree. The ator James Buckley stated on the fixed land-based "exotic systems" unless U.S. eventually accepted the Soviet claim in Senate floor on August 3, 1972 that he op­ and until the Treaty is amended. Finally, 1978 because there was a factual basis for it, posed the ABM Treaty and would vote and most importantly, Agreed Statement D but learned from this example, and particu­ against it largely because of this prohibi­ certainly does not diminish or amend Arti­ larly from the Moscow Summit negotiations tion. He said: cle V and the other substantive Articles on the Interim Agreement, that explicit "Thus the agreement goes so far as to pro­ such as 1(2), IV, V<2> and IX. agreement and written precision is impor­ hibit the development, test or deployment v tant. The SALT II documentation reflects of sea, air or space based ballistic missile de­ this learning. fense systems. This clause, in article V of During the seventh negotiating session, I SALT I, however, did not have this benefit the ABM treaty, would have the effect, for prepared detailed memoranda on both the of later-day hindsight indicating the need example, of prohibiting the development ABM Treaty and the Interim Agreement in­ for precision and detailed Agreed State­ and testing of a laser type system based in tended to serve four distinct purposes: <1 > ments and Common Understandings reflect­ space which could at least in principle pro­ inform the delegation on what was agreed ed in the SALT II Treaty. Some of the vide an extremely reliable and effective with the Soviets and what was not; <2> sug­ SALT I underlying understandings are re­ system of defense against ballistic missiles. gest whether the U.S. should consider seek­ flected in formal plenary statements, others The technological possibility has been for­ ing one or more Agreed Statements to pro­ in the less formal mini-plenary statements mally excluded by this agreement." vide more specific interpretations; <3> indi­ and some in working documents, memoran­ The vote in favor of advice and consent to cate what types of weapons programs, cur­ da of conversations ("memcons") and re­ ratification was 88-2. rent and future, were prohibited and per­ porting cables. Agreement was reached ad mitted; and <4> serve as the basis for the referendum in one or more working groups, VIII eventual transmittal documents to Congress approved by the two delegations, referred to I resigned from government in June 1972 and background for the Congressional hear­ the drafting group, to the interpreters, etc. after the transmittal documents had been ings. On many points there will not be simple, sent to Congress and before the hearings. Successive drafts of my memoranda were clear documentation. In addition, the U.S. While I later served at HEW as General shared within the delegation. Where there government has lost Counsel and at HUD as Under Secretary be­ was any doubt that a matter was agreed, the most of its SALT I historical memory. tween 1973 and 1977, I have had no official proposition was enclosed in brackets. The Some interpretation matters were in 1972, role in the SALT process since June 1972. I brackets were removed only after I, and and remain today, ambiguous and need clar­ left behind at ACDA two complete file cabi­ others on the U.S. delegation, were satisfied. ification. The dividing line between permit­ nets of all my working papers which I have I constantly revised the drafts as issues were ted "research" and prohibited "develop" not seen since 1972. I understand they were reviewed. The draft memoranda were never and "test" is not clear, nor is the related later sent to a warehouse by ACDA and the made "final." meaning of "component," in the broad pro­ files cannot now be located although copies In certain cases the U.S. delegation sought hibitory context of banning "exotic sys­ of some documents, including at least the and achieved Agreed Statements. In others tems" under Article V< 1 ). There is no last two drafts of my memoranda analyzing it did not seek them. Some matters were Agreed Statement on either issue. The the ABM Treaty, were preserved by the JCS judged agreed, while others were not. To former was discussed in a formal statement and perhaps in some other files. the best of my recollection, the U.S. delega­ delivered by Harold Brown and a general In 1972-73 while in private practice, I co­ tion never sought an Agreed Statement con­ understanding, although not a fully docu­ edited a book on SALT and wrote chapter 5 firming that Article V covered "exotic mented record, was reached. I do not recall on "The SALT I Agreements." I have at­ systems." We probably felt that seeking fur- any discussion of the latter with the Soviets. tached to this statement the pages from October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29245 that chapter . SALT: The Moscow Agreements Presidium of the Supreme Soviet the offi­ tion of these comments as soon as they are and Beyond . Pages 128-29 and 134 said that, "The sides pledge themselves not these hearings. are directly on point with respect to "exotic to create or develop ABM systems or compo­ The Administration's justification for its systems." They summarize my immediate nents emplaced in the sea, the air or space "reinterpretation" is that the Soviets recollection of the advice I gave to the U.S. or of a mobile ground type. • • *" He pre­ cannot be held to comply with the historic delegation which was the basis for the Exec­ sented this as a clear obligation of the U.S. position. Instead of reinterpretating utive position before, during and after the Treaty as a whole. . the book, I informally cleared my chapter selective review of the classified U.S. negoti­ Based on my review of available docu­ ating records, the better approach would with government officials to ensure both ac­ ments, the Soviets had not explicitly tied curacy and non-disclosure of sensitive infor­ have been to ask the Soviet negotiators in this interpretation to "exotic systems" in private in Geneva whether or not the Soviet formally queried on various issues by offi­ interpretation of the entire Treaty, includ­ cials at the JCS, OSD, State, ACDA and the Union agrees that Article VO> bans the de­ ing Article VO>. However, general Secretary velopments, testing and deployment of CIA. One question in the late 1970s was Gorbachev's written response to TIME whether there were any deployment limits "exotic systems." If the private Soviet re­ states, "In our view, it [SDil is the first sponse had been "no," then the Administra­ on fixed land-based "exotic systems." This stage of the project to develop a new ABM question had been reopened in OSD, sharp­ tion's "reinterpretation" would have been system prohibited under the Treaty of 1972. justified. ly debated with JCS supporting the tradi­ See TIME . includes: open the option of reasserting its "reinter­ To the best of my knowledge, the chal­ "According to the CBS television compa­ pretation," then the OSD motive behind the lenge to Article VO > within the Executive ny, one of the latest administration reports initial change in U.S. position-to erode im­ arose only recently although the Heritage contains the 'conclusion' that the antimis­ mediately and eventually destroy the ABM Foundation circulated a Backgrounder sile defense treaty, which strictly restricts Treaty-would be clear. dated April 4, 1985 rejecting the traditional the development [sozdaniyel of antimissiles, interpretation. A footnote stated it was au­ allegedly does not restrict the development X thored by an unnamed government official. [razrabotkal and testing of "exotic" types of As I have testified, written and spoken in This past spring I co-authored with Tom weapons-Laser and beam weapons-at all. various forums in the past two years, the Longstreth and John Pike a booklet on The It is quite clear which way such "interpret­ challenge now is to strengthen the ABM Impact of U.S. and Soviet Ballistic Missile ers" are taking the matter. Having just the Treaty through specific, mutual and verifia­ Defense Programs on the ABM Treaty, Na­ other day tested land-based laser installa­ ble Agreed Statements and Common Under­ tional Campaign to Save the ABM Treaty tions, the United States is now planning to standings. Six former Secretaries of Defense . In April, I testified before site a laser weapon on board a space-craft endorsed the importance of the Treaty and this Subcommittee and excerpts from my and test it directly in space. the need to strengthen it before this contro­ formal statement were reprinted in Arms "It would evidentally not be inappropriate versy broke . Control Today . In July I pre­ to remind some people in Washington yet Of course the Soviets must become re­ sented a paper at a SIPRI conference which again that the antimissile defense treaty sponsive on the Krasnoyarsk radar which sets forth my most recent analyses and rec­

prohibits both the development appears to be a clear violation. The booklet ommendations. A copy of the latter, as re­ [sozadanieyl and testing of space-based I co-authored this spring contains a series of vised in August, is attached as Exhibit E. antimissile defense systems or components. specific recommendations These documents reflect my views on the The treaty provisions relate to any systems which were intended to start a·constructive correct interpretations of the ABM Treaty designed, as defined by Article 2, for fight­ process consistent with Secretary Shultz's and basic issues raised by current U.S. and ing against strategic ballistic missiles or stated goal of reversing the erosion of the Soviet BMD programs. their elements on flight trajectories. Since ABMTreaty. In my judgment, the FY85 Arms Control the antimissile defense components being In conclusion, let me suggest approaches Impact Statement prepared by the Reagan created within the "star wars" program are for three Agreed Statements based upon, Administration correctly states the agree­ designed for precisely this purpose, that is and entirely consistent with, my recollection ment reached with the Soviets in 1971-72 on are intended to replace the antimissiles of the SALT I negotiating record which the meaning of Article VO>. It provides (pp. mentioned in the treaty , all provisions of the Treaty, particularly Article V<1>: "The ABM Treaty bans the development, treaty relate to these, regardless of the ( 1 > First Agreed Statement to Article teasting and deployment of all ABM sys­ degree of 'exoticness' of their principles of 110). As used in this Treaty, "AMB sys­ tems and components that are sea-based, operation. It is high time the irresponsible tems." "ABM systems or components," air-based, space-based or mobile land-based. "interpreters" [tolkovaterlil from Washing­ "ABM systems and components" and "ABM .. . The ABM Treaty prohibition on devel­ ton gave up their useless and dangerous oc­ systems or their components" include ABM opment, testing and deployment of space­ cupation, listened to the voice of the world interceptor missiles, ABM launchers, and based ABM systems, or components for such public, which they are trying to delude, and ABM radars as defined in Article 11<1 > and systems, applies to directed energy technolo­ directed their efforts to positive goals. And any devices based on other physical princi­ gy for any other technology used for this they do have something to think over: The ples which are capable of substituting for or purpose.) Thus, when such directed energy set of Soviet initiatives offers broad scope performing the functions of ABM intercep­ programs enter the field testing phase they for constructivism." tor missiles, ABM launchers, or ABM become constrained by these ABM Treaty Finally, Marshal Sergei Akhormeyev, the radars. obligations." [Emphasis added.] Chief of the Soviet General Staff, made (2) First Agreed Statement to Article VO>. The SDI Report to Congress applies to ABM components especially Appendix B, is consistent with He said the ABM Treaty "unambiguously and any devices based on other physical this statement. bans" the development, testing and deploy­ principles which are capable of substituting ment of space-based ABM systems. See New for or performing the functions of ABM IX York Times, October 19, 1985 . components, any of which are sea-based, air­ In the Soviet parliamentary ratification Marshall Akhromeyev explictly confirms based, space-based or mobile land-based. deliberations, the First Deputy Minister of the historic U.S. position of the ban on <3> Second Agreed Statement to Article Foreign Affairs, Vasily V. Kuznetsov, "on space-based "exotic systems." The Subcom- VO>. As used in Article VO>. "develop" 29246 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 refers to that stage of the research and de­ Proclaimed by U.S. President October 3, missiles at launch sites, and <2> ABM radars velopment cycle at which field testing, ob­ 1972 within no more than six ABM radar com­ servable by national technical means, is ini­ Instruments of ratification exchanged Octo­ plexes, the area of each complex being cir­ tiated on ABM components or on any de­ ber 3, 1972 cular and having a diameter of no more vices which are capable of substituting for Entered into force October 3, 1972 than three kilometers; and or performing the functions of ABM compo­ The United States of America and the (b) within one ABM system deployment nents. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, herein­ area having a radius of one hundred and The third suggestion is obviously incom­ after referred to as the Parties, fifty kilometers and containing ICBM silo plete. It points out the compelling need to Proceeding from the premise that nuclear launchers, a Party may deploy: <1 > no more begin the difficult process of resolving some war would have devastating consequences than one hundred ABM launchers and no of the ambiguities inherent in the ABM for all mankind, more than one hundred ABM interceptor Treaty. The Standing Consultative Commis­ Considering that effective measures to missiles at launch sites, <2> two large sion was established with this as one limit anti-ballistic missile systems would be phased-array ABM radars comparable in po­ of its assigned tasks. The SCC has been un­ a substantial factor in curbing the race in tential to corresponding ABM radars oper­ derutilized. The sec could easily, and strategic offensive arms and would lead to a ational or under construction on the date of quickly. also review and revise Agreed State­ decrease in the risk of outbreak of war in­ signature of the Treaty in an ABM system ment D to make its intended meaning clear­ volving nuclear weapons, deployment area containing ICBM silo er. A starter in replacing Agreed Statement Proceeding from the premise that the lim­ launchers, and <3> no more than eighteen D could be: itation of anti-ballistic missiles sysiems, as ABM radars each having a potential less First Agreed Statement to Article III. Ar­ well as certain agreed measures with respect than the potential of the smaller of the ticle III prohibits the deployment of fixed to the limitation of strategic offensive arms, above-mentioned two large phased-array land-based devices based on other physical would contribute to the creation of more fa­ ABM radars. principles which are capable of substituting vorable conditions for further negotiations for or performing the functions of fixed on limiting strategic arms, ARTICLE IV land-based ABM systems or component:; as Mindful of their obligations under Article The limitations provided for in Article III defined in Article II. VI of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation shall not apply to ABM systems or their First Agreed Statement to Article IV. of Nuclear Weapons, components used for development or test­ Fixed land-based devices based on other Declaring their intention to achieve at the ing, and located within current or addition­ physical principles which are capable of earliest possible date the cessation of the ally agreed test ranges. Each Party may substituting for or performing the functions nuclear arms race and to take effective have no more than a total of fifteen ABM measures toward reductions in strategic launchers at test ranges. of ABM components as defined in Article arms, nuclear disarmament, and general and II may be developed and tested at ABM complete disarmament, ARTICLE V test ranges described in Article IV. Desiring to contribute to the relaxation of 1. Each Party undertakes not to develop, First Agreed Statement to Article XIV< 1 >. international tension and the strengthening test, or deploy ABM systems or components Any obligation in this Treaty may be dis­ of trust between States, which are sea-based, air-based, space-based, cussed in accordance with Article XIII and Have agreed as follows: an amendment adopted in accordance with or mobile land-based. Article XIV. ARTICLE I 2. Each Party undertakes not to develop, The six suggested Agreed Statements do 1. Each party undertakes to limit anti-bal­ test, or deploy ABM launchers for launch­ not even touch on the question of distin­ listic missile systems and to adopt ing more than one ABM interceptor missile guishing a "component," or device capable other measures in accordance with the pro­ at a time from each launcher, not to modify of substituting for or performing the func­ visions of this Treaty. deployed launchers to provide them with tion of a component, from a "subcompo­ 2. Each Party undertakes not to deploy such a capability, not to develop, test, or nent," assembly, adjunct, etc., or the equal­ ABM systems for a defense of the territory deploy automatic or semi-automatic or ly difficult question of distinguishing ABM­ of its country and not to provide a base for other similar systems for rapid reload of related space-based sensors from space­ such a defense, and not to deploy ABM sys­ ABM launchers. based sensors for early warning or for other tems for defense of an individual region ARTICLE VI purposes. Counting rules, presumptions, and except as provided for in Article III of this Treaty. To enhance assurance of the effectiveness ad hoc approaches will all be necessary. of the limitations on ABM systems and These challenges will be truly difficult even ARTICLE II their components provided by the Treaty, with the best of intents. 1. For the purpose of this Treaty an ABM each Party undertakes: Before constructive steps can start, how­ system is a system to counter strategic bal­ not to give missiles, launchers, or ever, and assuming the Soviets are prepared listic missiles or their elements in flight tra­ radars, other than ABM interceptor mis­ to negotiate and not Just posture, the Presi­ Jectory, currently consisting of: siles, ABM launchers, or ABM radars, capa­ dent should publicly repudiate the legal ABM interceptor missiles, which are bilities to counter strategic ballistic missiles advice he has recently received from his ad­ interceptor missiles constructed and de­ or their elements in flight trajectory, and visors on a narrow scope of Article V and ployed for an ABM role, or of a type tested not to test them in an ABM mode, and other critical Articles of the ABM Treaty. in an ABM mode; not to deploy in the future radars for Congress could contribute to this result by ABM launchers, which are launchers approving an amendment to the pending early warning of strategic ballistic missile constructed and deployed for launching attack except at locations along the periph­ DOD appropriations bill which limits fund ABM interceptor missiles; and expenditures to the legal standard in the ery of its national territory and oriented ABM radars, which are radars con­ outward. FY85 Arms Control Impact Statement. This structed and deployed for an ABM role, or would be a positive step as negotiations con­ of a type tested in an ABM mode. ARTICLE VII tinue with the Soviets prior to the Summit. 2. The ABM system components listed in Subject to the provisions of this Treaty, This whole sorry business could lead to a paragraph 1 of this Article include those modernization and replacement of ABM sys­ constructive ending if the U.S. and Soviets which are: tems or their components may be carried were to agree privately in Geneva, before, at operational; out. or after the Summit, on Agreed Statements under construction; along the lines that I have suggested. These undergoing testing; ARTICLE VIII should be only the first of many steps undergoing overhaul, repair or conver­ ABM systems or their components in needed to avoid further erosion of the ABM sion; or excess of the numbers or outside the areas Treaty of 1972. mothballed. specified in this Treaty, as well as ABM sys­ tems or their components prohibited by this ARTICLE III Treaty, shall be destroyed or dismantled TREATY . BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF Each Party undertakes not to deploy AMERICA AND THE UNION OF SOVIET SOCIAL­ under agreed procedures within the shortest ABM systems or their components except possible agreed period of time. IST REPUBLICS ON THE LIMITATION OF ANTI­ that: BALLISTIC MISSILE SYSTEMS within one ABM system deployment ARTICLE IX Signed at Moscow May 26, 1972 area having a radius of one hundred and To assure the viability and effectiveness Ratification advised by U.S. Senate August fifty kilometers and centered on the Party's of this Treaty, each Party undertakes not to 3, 1972 national capital, a party may deploy: <1> no transfer to other States, and not to deploy Ratified by U.S. President September 30, more than one hundred ABM launchers and outside its national territory, ABM systems 1972 no more than one hundred ABM interceptor or their components limited by this Treaty. October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29247 ARTICLE X decision to the other Party six months prior [EJ Each Party undertakes not to assume any to withdrawal from the Treaty. Such notice The Parties understand that Article V of international obligations which would con­ shall include a statement of the extraordi­ the Treaty includes obligations not to devel­ flict with this Treaty. nary events the notifying Party regards as op, test or deploy ABM interceptor missiles ARTICLE XI having jeopardized its supreme interests. for the delivery by each ABM interceptor The Parties undertake to continue active ARTICLE XVI missile of more than one independently negotiations for limitations on strategic of­ 1. This Treaty shall be subject to ratifica­ guided warhead. fensive arms. tion in accordance with the constitutional [FJ ARTICLE XII procedures of each Party. The Treaty shall The Parties agree not to deploy phased­ 1. For the purpose of providing assurance enter into force on the day of the exchange array radars having potential exceeding three nical means of vertification at its disposal in ant to Article 102 of the Charter of the million, except as provided for in Articles a manner consistent with generally recog­ United Nations. III, IV and VI of the Treaty, or except for nized principles of international law. Done at Moscow on May 26, 1972, in two the purposes of tracking objects in outer 2. Each Party undertakes not to interfere copies, each in the English and Russian lan­ space or for use as national technical means with the national technical means of verifi­ guages, both texts being equally authentic. of verification. cation of the other Party operating in ac­ For the United States of America: RicH­ [GJ ARD NIXON, President of the United States of cordance with paragraph 1 of this Article. The Parties understand that Article IX of 3. Each Party undertakes not to use delib­ America. For the Union of Soviet Socialist Repub­ the Treaty includes the obligation of the US erate concealment measures which impede and the USSR not to provide to other verification by national technical means of lics: L.l. BREZHNEv, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU. States technical descriptions or blue prints compliance with the provisions of this specially worked out for the construction of Treaty. This obligation shall not require ABM systems and their components limited changes in current construction, assembly, AGREED STATEMENTS, COMMON UNDERSTAND­ by the Treaty. conversion, or overhaul practices. INGS, AND UNILATERAL STATEMENTS REGARD· 2. COMMON UNDERSTANDINGS ARTICLE XIII ING THE TREATY BETWEEN THE UNITED 1. To promote the objectives and imple­ STATES OF AMERICA AND THE UNION OF Common understanding of the Parties on mentation of the provisions of this Treaty, SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS ON THE LIMI­ the following matters was reached during the Parties shall establish promptly a TATION OF ANTI-BALLISTIC MISSILES the negotiations: Standing Consultative Commission, within 1. AGREED STATEMENTS A. Location of ICBM defenses the framework of which they will: The U.S. Delegation made the following consider questions concerning compli­ The document set forth below was agreed upon and initiated by the Heads of the Del­ statement on May 26, 1972: ance with the obligations assumed and re­ Article III of the ABM Treaty provides for lated situations which may be considered egations on May 26, 1972 Oetter designa­ tions added>: each side one ABM system deployment area ambiguous; centered on its national capital and one (b) provide on a voluntary basis such in­ AGREED STATEMENTS REGARDING THE TREATY BE­ ABM system deployment area containing formation as either Party considers neces­ TWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ICBM silo launchers. The two sides have sary to assure confidence in compliance THE UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS registered agreement on the following state­ with the obligations assumed; ON THE LIMITATION OF ANTI-BALLISTIC MIS­ ment: "The Parties understand that the consider questions involving unintend­ SILE SYSTEMS center of the ABM system deployment area ed interference with national technical [AJ centered on the national capital and the means of verification; center of the ABM system deployment area consider possible changes in the strate­ The Parties understand that, in addition containing ICBM silo launchers for each gic situation which have a bearing on the to the ABM radars which may be deployed Party shall be separated by no less than provisions of this Treaty; in accordance with subparagraph of Ar­ thirteen hundred kilometers." In this con­ agree upon procedures and dates for ticle III of the Treaty, those non-phased­ nection, the U.S. side notes that its ABM destruction or dismantling of ABM systems array ABM radars operational on the date system deployment area for defense of or their components in cases provided for by of signature of the Treaty within the ABM ICBM silo launchers, located west of the the provisions of this Treaty; system deployment area for defense of the Mississippi River, will be centered in the consider, as appropriate, possible pro­ national capital may be retained. Grand Forks ICBM silo launcher deploy­ posals for further increasing the viability of [BJ ment area. this Treaty; including proposals for amend­ ments in accordance with the provisions of The Parties understand that the potential B. ABM test ranges this Treaty; of statement on April 26, 1972: further measures aimed at limiting strategic the smaller of the two large phased-array Article IV of the ABM Treaty provides arms. ABM radars referred to in subparagraph that "the limitations provided for in Article 2. The Parties through consultation shall of Article III of the Treaty is considered for III shall not apply to ABM systems or their establish, and may amend as appropriate, purposes of the Treaty to three million. components used for development or test­ Regulations for the Standing Consultative [CJ ing, and located within current or addition­ Commission governing procedures, composi­ The Parties understand that the center of ally agreed test ranges." We believe it would tion and other relevant matters. the ABM system deployment area centered be useful to assure that there is no misun­ ARTICLE XIV on the national capital and the center of derstanding as to current ABM test ranges. It is our understanding that ABM test 1. Each Party may propose amendments the ABM system deployment area contain­ ing ICBM silo launchers for each Party ranges encompass the area within which to this Treaty. Agreed amendments shall ABM components are located for test pur­ enter into force in accordance with the pro­ shall be separated by no less than thirteen hundred kilometers. poses. The current U.S. ABM test ranges are cedures governing the entry into force of at White Sands, New Mexico, and at Kwaja­ this Treaty. [DJ lein Atoll, and the current Soviet ABM test 2. Five years after entry into force of this In order to insure fulfillment of the obli­ range is near Sary Shagan in Kazakhstan. Treaty, and at five-year intervals thereafter, We consider that non-phased array radars the Parties shall together conduct a review gation not to deploy ABM systems and their of this Treaty. components except as provided in Article III of types used for range safety or instrumen­ of the Treaty, the Parties agree that in the tation purposes may be located outside of ARTICLE XV event ABM systems based on other physical ABM test ranges. We interpret the refer­ 1. This Treaty shall be of unlimited dura­ principles and including components capa­ ence in Article IV to "additionally agreed tion. ble of substituting for ABM interceptor mis­ test ranges" to mean that ABM components 2. Each Party shall, in exercising its na­ siles. ABM launchers, or ABM radars are will not be located at any other test ranges tional sovereignty, have the right to with­ created in the future, specific limitations on without prior agreement between our Gov­ draw from this Treaty if it decides that ex­ such systems and their components would ernments that there will be such additional traordinary events related to the subject be subject to discussion in accordance with ABM test ranges. matter of this Treaty have jeopardized its Article XIII and agreement in accordance On May 5, 1972, the Soviet Delegation supreme interests. It shall give notice of its with Article XIV of the Treaty. stated that there was a common under- 29248 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE October 28, 1985 standing on what ABM test ranges were, 3. UNILATERAL STATEMENTS a cooperative target vehicle of the kind re­ that the use of the types of non-ABM The following noteworthy unilateral ferred to in item <2> above during the re­ radars for range safety or instrumentation statements were made during the negotia­ entry portion of its trajectory or makes was not limited under the Treaty, that the tions by the United States Delegation: measurements in conjunction with the test reference in Article IV to "additionally of an ABM interceptor missile or an ABM agreed" test ranges was sufficiently clear, A. Withdrawal from the ABM Treaty radar at the same test range. Radars used and that national means permitted identify­ On May 9, 1972, Ambassador Smith made for purposes such as range safety or instru­ ing current test ranges. the following statement: mentation would be exempt from applica­ The U.S. Delegation has stressed the im­ tion of these criteria. C. Mobile ABM systems portance U.S. Government attaches to On January 29, 1972, the U.S. Delegation achieving agreement on more complete limi­ C. No-transfer article of ABM Treaty made the following statement: tations on Strategic offensive arms, follow­ On April 18, 1972, the U.S. Delegation Article V of the Joint Draft Text of the ing agreement on an ABM Treaty and on an made the following statement: ABM Treaty includes an undertaking not to Interim Agreement on certain measures In regard to this Article UXl, I have a develop, test, or deploy mobile land-based with respect to the limitation of strategic brief and I believe self-explanatory state­ ABM systems and their components. On offensive arms. The U.S. Delegation believes ment to make. The U.S. side wishes to make May 5, 1971, the U.S. side indicated that, in that an objective of the follow-on negotia­ clear that the provisions of this Article do its view, a prohibition on deployment of tions should be to constrain and reduce on a not set a precedent for whatever provision mobile ABM systems and components would long-term basis threats to the survivability may be considered for a Treaty on Limiting rule out the deployment of ABM launchers of our respective strategic retaliatory forces. Strategic Offensive Arms. The question of and radars which were not permanent fixed The USSR Delegation has also indicated transfer of strategic offensive arms is a far types. At that time, we asked for the Soviet that the objectives of SALT would remain more complex issue, which may require a view of this interpretation. Does the Soviet unfulfilled without the achievement of an different solution. side agree with the U.S. side's interpretation agreement providing for more complete lim­ put forward on May 5, 1971? D. No increase in defense of early warning itations on strategic offensive arms. Both radars On April 13, 1972, The Soviet Delegation sides recognize that the initial agreement said there is a general common understand­ would be steps toward the achievement of On July 28, 1970, the U.S. Delegation ing on this matter. more complete limitations on strategic made the following statement: D. Standing consultative commission arms. If an agreement providing for more Since Hen House radars [Soviet Ballistic Ambassador Smith made the following complete strategic offensive arms limita­ missile early warning radars] can detect and statement on May 22, 1972: tions were not achieved within five years, track ballistic missile warheads at great dis­ The United States proposes that the sides U.S. supreme interests could be jeopardized. tances, they have a significant ABM poten­ agree that, with regard to initial implemen­ Should that occur, it would constitute a tial. Accordingly, the U.S. would regard any tation of the ABM Treaty's Article XIII on basis for withdrawal fo-: the ABM Treaty. increase in the defenses of such radars by the Standing Consultative Commission The U.S. does not wish to see such a situa­ surface-to-air missiles as inconsistent with and of the consultation Articles to tion occur, nor do we believe that the USSR an agreement. the Interim Agreement on offensive arms does. It is because we wish to prevent such a and the Accidents Agreement, 1 agreement situation that we emphasize the importance WHITE HOUSE REVISES INTERPRETATION OF establishing the sec will be worked out the U.S. Government attaches to achieve­ ABMTREATY early in the follow-on SALT negotiations; ment of more complete limitations on stra­ until that is completed, the following ar­ tegic offensive arms. The U.S. Executive will rangements will prevail; when SALT is in inform the Congress, in connection with The Reagan administration, reversing the session, any consultation desired by either legal interpretation of previous administra­ Congressional consideration of the ABM and some of its own past statements, side under these Articles can be carried out Treaty and the Interim Agreement, of this tions by the two SALT Delegations; when SALT statement of the U.S. position. has denied that testing and development is not in session, ad hoc arrangements for except antiballistic missile systems such as any desired consultations under these Arti­ B. Tested in ABM mode these in the "Star Wars" program are per­ cles may be made through diplomatic chan­ On April 7, 1972, the U.S. Delegation mitted under the 1972 ABM treaty. nels. made the following statement: The administration's new interpretation Minister Semenov replied that, on an ad Article II of the Joint Text Draft uses the of the treaty was confirmed yesterday by a referendum basis, he could agree that the term "tested in an ABM mode," in defining senior White House official who briefed re­ U.S. statement corresponded to the Soviet ABM components, and Article VI includes porters on U.S. objections to the recent understanding. certain obligations concerning such testing. Soviet offer of a 50 percent cut in certain of­ E. Standstill We believe that the sides should have a fensive missiles in return for a ban on Rea­ common understanding of this phase. First, gan's Strategic Defense Initiative, or Star On May 6, 1972, Minister Semenov made we would note that the testing provisions of Wars. The Soviet offer was described in the the following statement: the ABM Treaty are intended to apply to briefing as "a place to start" but in its In an effort to accommodate the wishes of testing which occurs after the date of signa­ present form one-sided and threatening to the U.S. side, the Soviet Delegation is pre­ ture of the Treaty, and not to any testing U.S. security. pared to proceed on the basis that the two which may have occurred in the past. Next, White House national security affairs ad­ sides will in fact observe the obligations of we would amplify the remarks we have viser Robert C. McFarlane volunteered a both the Interim Agreement and the ABM made on this subject during the previous new interpretation of the 13-year-old Anti­ Treaty beginning from the date of signature Helsinki phase by setting forth the objec­ ballistic Missile treaty in a television pro­ of these two documents. tives which govern the U.S. view on the sub­ gram Sunday. Yesterday the senior White In reply, the U.S. Delegation made the ject, namely, while prohibiting testing of House official, who cannot be identified following statement on May 20, 1972: non-ABM components for ABM purposes: under the ground rules of the news briefing, The U.S. agrees in principle with the not to prevent testing of ABM components, confirmed that McFarlane's televised re­ Soviet statement made on May 6 concerning and not to prevent testing of non-ABM com­ marks reflected what is now the fixed policy observance of obligations beginning from ponents for non-ABM purposes. To clarify of the administration. date of signature but we would like to make our interpretation of "tested in an ABM Retired ambassador Gerard Smith, chief clear our understanding that this means mode," we note that we would consider a U.S. negotiator of the ABM treaty, said the that, pending ratification and acceptance, launcher, missile or radar to be "tested in administration's interpretation "makes a neither side would take any action prohibit­ an ABM mode" if, for example, any of the dead letter" of the treaty. Smith said he be­ ed by the agreements after they had en­ following events occur: <1 > a launcher is lieves it would make possible almost unlim­ tered into force. This understanding would used to launch an ABM interceptor missile, ited testing and development under Star continue to apply in the absence of notifica­ <2> an interceptor missile is flight tested Wars, and probably also actual "building" of tion by either signatory of its intention not against a target vehicle which has a flight the space-based antimissile system "as long to proceed with ratification or approval. trajectory with characteristics of a strategic as you did not deploy." The Soviet Delegation indicated agree­ ballistic missile flight trajectory, or is flight Administration sources said a new inter­ ment with the U.S. statement. tested in conjunction with the test of an pretation of the treaty had been under dis­ ABM interceptor missile or an ABM radar cussion and, at times, intense debate since 1 See Article 7 of Agreement to Reduce the Risk at the same test range, or is flight tested to last summer within the administration's of Outbreak of Nuclear War Between the United an altitude inconsistent with interception of Senior Arms Control Group, or SAC-G. States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist targets against which air defenses are de­ The administration was moving in the di­ Republics, signed Sept. 30, 1971. ployed, <3> a radar makes measurements on rection indicated by McFarlane in recent October 28, 1985 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 29249 weeks-though not to the point of claiming "research, testing, development of systems How can that plain meaning have been the treaty "authorized and approved" the based on other physical principles." transformed? By an "interpretation" that testing, which were the words McFarlane The official said there had been "unilater­ ought to embarrass the most brazen lawyer used Sunday. In administration discussions, al statements" made that the treaty ought in town. sources said, the issue was whether the to limit such exotic systems but he added Article 3 of the 1972 treaty allowed a lim­ treaty could be interpreted as permitting that "never have the Soviets bought that." ited number of fixed, land-based ABM's. Ar­ such activities. A final decision was "not The proposed in the new Soviet ticle 5 banned the development, testing and completely clear" even after McFarlane arms control offer are "inappropriately deployment of "sea-based, air-based, space­ made his remarks on "Meet the Press," an linked" to the demand that the United States stop its Star Wars program, the based or mobile land-based" systems. Then, official said. in "Agreed Statement D," the parties said One official said the still-secret negotiat­ senior official told reporters yesterday. "It's ing record of the ABM treaty is "ambigu­ a precondition that must be dropped," he they would discuss "specific limitations" on ous" on the point in question and subject to said. exotic new ABM systems if they were "cre­ "a well justified disagreement" within the That the Soviets have made an offer of ated in the future." government. However, this view is disputed deep cuts is "a very good development," and The claim is that statement D permits by Smith and John Rhinelander, legal coun­ a sign that Reagan's policies have paid off, new kinds of ABM systems unless the par­ sel to the U.S. delegation that negotiated the official said. U.S. negotiators will pursue ties now agree to limit them. But the Ameri­ the ABM treaty. the details in Geneva, he added. can diplomats who negotiated it say the The nub of the issue is whether an Most of the White House presentation, purpose was the opposite. And statement D "agreed statement D" between the U.S. and though, was centered on objections to the itself begins by saying that its purpose is "to Soviet delegations at the time of the treaty Soviet proposal, especially inclusion of U.S. insure fulfillment of the obligations not to signing on May 26, 1972, gives a broad ex­ Euromissiles and "forward based systems" deploy ABM systems and their components emption from the restrictions of the treaty among the strategic weapons to be cut by except as provided in Article 3." for future types of ABM systems "based on half. This would produce "highly unequal" An old national security hand, asked other physical principles" such as lasers and forces with great advantages to Moscow, the about the new "interpretation" of the directed-energy weapons. Many elements of official said. treaty, said: "You've got to admire their the administration's Star Wars research Those two categories described as support for U.S. allies, were said to consume 1,149 of brass. They have interpreted it 180 degrees program are based on such exotic technolo­ from its intent. The idea is so preposterous gy. the U.S. entitlement of 1,680 strategic nu­ clear delivery systems under the Soviet that it would be amusing if it were not so se­ The purpose of agreed statement D, it rious." said, was "to insure fulfillment of the obli­ plan. The United States would thus have only 531 missiles or bombers left for deter­ The serious part is the consequences. The gation not to deploy ABM systems and their new reading would make the ABM treaty "a components except as provided in Article III rence against Soviet nuclear attack, and of the treaty," which originally allowed these would be threatened by a much larger dead letter," as its chief negotiator, Gerard both countries to maintain two conventional number of Soviet weapons. Smith, said last week. And it will have been ABM systems, based on antimissile missiles. The White House also said the Soviet pro­ killed in a way that casts doubt on the point The agreed statement said that if new posal might unfairly hamper U.S. military of making any arms control agreements ABM systems "based on other physical prin­ modernization and could have serious verifi­ with the United States. ciples" are created in the future, "specific cation problems. These aspects of the Soviet Treaties are meant to be serious undertak­ limitations on such systems and their com­ proposal have yet to be fully presented in ings. This one was negotiated for a purpose ponents would be subject to discussion ... Geneva, it said. that all the world understood, to limit de­ and agreement in accordance with Article [From the New York Times, Oct. 14, 19851 fensive systems. The United States Senate XIV of the treaty"-the article explaining consented to the treaty by a vote of 88 to 2. how the treaty could be formally amended. SHADOW ON THE SUMMIT Thirteen years later America would be tell­ Until the administration's recent change ; to the orders heretofore entered, was granted Ms. OAKAR. Committee on Science and Technology. to: Mr. MARKEY. 2188. A letter from the Principal Deputy , transmitting notification of the trans­ extend their remarks and include ex­ Mr. BENNETT. fers of authorizations and appropriations of traneous material:) Mr. DYMALL Y. DOD funds, pursuant to Public Law 97-252, Mr. PARRIS, for 60 minutes, October Mr. KANJORSKI in four instances. section 1101, Public Law 97-377, section 732, 30, 1985. Public Law 98-94, section 120l, Public Mr. PARRIS, for 60 minutes, October Law 98-212, secton 729, Public Law 98-473, SENATE JOINT RESOLUTIONS section 8025, and Public Law 98-525, section 31, 1985. 1501; jointly, to the Committees on Armed Mr. PARRIS, for 60 minutes, Novem­ AND CONCURRENT RESOLU­ TION REFERRED Services and Appropriations. ber 1, 1985. 2189. A letter from the Comptroller Gen­ . jointly, to the Committees on Government Operations, Mr. NELSON of Florida, for 5 min­ S.J. Res. 207. Joint resolution to designate Foreign Affairs and Agriculture. utes, today. November 1, 1985, as "National Philanthro­ Mr. A.NNuNzto, for 5 minutes, today. PY Day"; to the Committee on Post Office Mr. MONTGOMERY, for 5 minutes, and Civil Service. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON today. S.J. Res. 228. Joint resolution relating to the proposed sales of arms to Jordan; to the PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLU­ Mr. GoNZALEZ, for 60 minutes, today. Committee on Foreign Affairs. TIONS Mr. GAYDOS, for 30 minutes, October S. Con. Res. 76. Concurrent resolution 29, 1985. Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports asking that the President bring the rights of of committees were delivered to the Mr. GAYDOS, for 30 minutes, October the Polish people to the attention of the 30, 1985. Soviet Government; to the Committee on Clerk for printing and reference to the Foreign Affairs. proper calendar, as follows: Mr. ROSTENKOWSKI. Committee on EXTENSION OF REMARKS Ways and Means. H.R. 2817. A bill to amend By unanimous consent, permission ENROLLED BILL SIGNED the Comprehensive Environmental Re­ to revise and extend remarks was Mr. ANNUNZIO, from the Commit­ sponse, Compensation, and Liability Act of 1980, and for other purposes; with an granted to: tee on House Administration, reported amendment . Referred to the Committee of the Mr. BERMAN, and to include extrane­ Health Service Act to revise and extend to Whole House on the State of the Union. ous matter, notwithstanding the fact the authorities under that act relating to Mr. CONYERS. Committee on the Judici­ that it exceeds two pages of the the National Institutes of Health and Na­ ary. H.R. 2713. A bill to amend title 18, tional Research Institutes, and for other United States Code, to modify certain provi­ RECORD and is estimated by the Public purposes. sions pertaining to restitution, and for other Printer to cost $4,506. purposes; with an amendment