Sai Kung District Council Minutes of the First Special Meeting in 2019 Date

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Sai Kung District Council Minutes of the First Special Meeting in 2019

Date: 15 May 2019 (Wednesday) Time: 9:30 a.m. Venue: Conference Room of the Sai Kung District Council

Present From To Mr NG Sze-fuk, George, GBS, JP 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr CHAN Kai-wai 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr CHAN Pok-chi, Jonathan, JP 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr CHAU Yin-ming, Francis, BBS, MH 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr CHEUNG Chin-pang, Edwin 9:30 a.m. 10:30 a.m. Mr CHEUNG Mei-hung 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr CHONG Yuen-tung 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr CHUNG Kam-lun 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Hon FAN Kwok-wai, Gary 9:30 a.m. 11:48 a.m. Ms FONG Kwok-shan, Christine 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr HIEW Moo-siew 9:30 a.m. 10:30 a.m. Mr HO Man-kit, Raymond 10:04 a.m. 13:00 p.m. Mr KAN Siu-kei 9:30 a.m. 11:31 a.m. Mr LAI Ming-chak 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr LAM Siu-chung, Frankie 11:02 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr LAU Kai-hong 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr LAU Wai-cheung, Peter, MH 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr LEUNG Li 9:45 a.m. 12:01 p.m. Mr LI Ka-leung, Philip 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr LUI Man-kwong 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr TAM Lanny, Stanley, MH 9:50 a.m. 11:25 a.m. Mr TSE Ching-fung 9:30 a.m. 10:00 a.m. Mr WAN Kai-ming 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr WAN Yuet-cheung, BBS, MH, JP 9:30 a.m. 13:15 p.m. Mr WONG Shui-sang 9:30 a.m. 11:28 a.m. Mr YAU Yuk-lun 9:30 a.m. 12:20 p.m. Miss LAU Tang, Moira Senior Executive Officer (District Council), Sai Kung District Office

In Attendance Mr CHIU Yin-wa, David, JP District Officer (Sai Kung), Sai Kung District Office Mr CHOW Tat-wing, Cyrus Assistant District Officer (Sai Kung)1, Sai Kung District Office Miss WONG Ching-hang, Joey Assistant District Officer (Sai Kung)2, Sai Kung District Office Miss MAK Wai-man, Sandy Senior Liaison Officer (1), Sai Kung District Office Ms LAM Yee-mang, Dawn Senior Liaison Officer (2), Sai Kung District Office Mr WU Wai-kwong, Wilson Senior Liaison Officer (3), Sai Kung District Office Mr LIU Chung-him, Michael Executive Officer I (District Council), Sai Kung District Office Mr WAN Man-leung Principal Project Coordinator, Civil Engineering and Development Department Mr HUNG Cheung-wai Senior Engineer, Civil Engineering and Development Department Ms CHOI Sze-man, Vera Chief Architect 7, Housing Department Ms SER Hing-yi Senior Architect 32, Housing Department Ms SZE Lai-hung, Lily Senior Planning Officer 3, Housing Department Ms TAM Yin-ping, Donna District Planning Officer/Sai Kung & Islands, Planning Department Ms LAM Yuen-ting, Heidi Assistant District Social Welfare Officer (WTS/SK)3,

Social Welfare Department For Mr CHOY Tak-shing, Dixon Senior Estate Surveyor/TKO, District Lands Office, Sai Kung agenda Mr MA Chi-hung, Daniel Engineer/Pedestrian Improvements, Transport Department item I

Mr WOO Kwong-ming Engineer/Special Duties 1, Transport Department Professor CHAN Siu-yuen Associate Director, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited Mr Cecil WONG Senior Transport Planner, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited Mr Johnny SO Consultant, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited Ms LAM Tak-wah, Eva Associate, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited Miss Catherine FOK Senior Engineer, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited Mr Steven FONG Engineer, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited Ms Grace LEUNG Associate, AEC Limited

Absent Mr LING Man-hoi, BBS, MH Mr AU Ning-fat, Alfred, MH Mr LUK Ping-choi

The Chairman welcomed all Members and attendees to the meeting.

2. The Chairman said the following Members had submitted the Notifications of Absence from Meeting before the meeting as required:

 Mr LING Man-hoi, the Vice-Chairman, who was absent because of another meeting;  Mr LOK Ping-choi, who was absent because he needed to go to work.

3. There being no objection, the Chairman declared that the applications for absence from meeting were approved in accordance with Order 51(1) of the Sai Kung District Council Standing Orders.

I. Associated Infrastructure Works and Development Parameters for Public Housing Development in Tseung Kwan O (SKDC(M) Paper No. 150/19)

4. The Chairman welcomed the following persons to the meeting:  Mr WAN Man-leung, Principal Project Coordinator, Civil Engineering and Development Department (CEDD)  Mr HUNG Cheung-wai, Senior Engineer, CEDD  Ms Vera CHOI, Chief Architect 7, Housing Department (HD)  Ms SER Hing-yi, Senior Architect 32, HD  Ms Lily SZE, Senior Planning Officer 3, HD  Ms Donna TAM, District Planning Officer/Sai Kung & Islands, Planning Department (PlanD)  Ms Heidi LAM, Assistant District Social Welfare Officer (WTS/SK)3, Social Welfare Department (SWD)  Mr Dixon CHOY, Senior Estate Surveyor/TKO, District Lands Office, Sai Kung  Mr Daniel MA, Engineer/Pedestrian Improvements, Transport Department (TD)  Mr WOO Kwong-ming, Engineer/Special Duties 1, TD  Professor CHAN Siu-yuen, Associate Director, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited  Mr Cecil WONG, Senior Transport Planner, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited  Mr Johnny SO, Consultant, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited  Ms Eva LAM, Associate, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited  Miss Catherine FOK, Senior Engineer, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited  Mr Steven FONG, Engineer, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited  Ms Grace LEUNG, Associate, AEC Limited

5. Mr WAN Man-leung, Principal Project Coordinator of CEDD, Professor CHAN Siu-yuen, Associate Director of Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited, and Ms Vera CHOI, Chief Architect 7 of HD, briefed members on the development project based on the presentation slides shown. 3

6. The Chairman said SKDC did not oppose the housing developments proposed by the Government, but he considered that the departments concerned must provide sufficient ancillary facilities in response to the population growth to avoid affecting the livelihood of the existing residents. Given that the consultant had just reported the detailed traffic flow assessment data but without providing Members with such information before the meeting, it was difficult for Members to make comprehensive analysis within a short period of time. He considered that the government departments and the consultant had not provided Sai Kung District Council (SKDC) with a detailed paper and information to explain how they would implement the housing developments while improving the existing ancillary facilities in the district at the same time. He was disappointed about it. As the captioned housing development had been approved by the Town Planning Board (TPB), he believed that the Government was determined to take forward the housing development. However, he still hoped that the departments concerned would listen to the views of Members and respond to the demands of the district.

7. Mr HIEW Moo-siew said the traffic flow had already reached the maximum capacity for the section of Ying Yip Road near the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road (the Clear Water Bay Road roundabout), which was connected to many other roads. He anticipated that after the completion of Tseung Kwan O – Lam Tin Tunnel (TKO-LTT), the vehicular traffic flow at the roundabout would be further increased. The Traffic & Transport Committee (TTC) had endorsed a motion a long time ago that requested the Government to open a new link road near the Clear Water Bay Road roundabout to enable vehicles to turn left and enter Clear Water Bay Road directly from Ying Yip Road heading for Sai Kung and Kowloon without the need to go through Clear Water Bay Road roundabout, which could relieve the traffic loads there.

8. Mr WAN Yuet-cheung opposed the rezoning of the four Green Belt (GB) sites for public housing developments because he considered that such rezoning would affect the environment and traffic of nearby areas, and was unfair to existing residents. As for the site to the south of Chiu Shun Road, given the lack of social welfare facilities in Hang Hau at present, he agreed with the provision of a neighbourhood elderly centre there. Since the proposed building would be about 40 storeys high, which he anticipated would block the views of residents living in nearby housing estates, including Tin Ha Wan Village and Yuk Ming Court, he suggested swapping the positions of the residential building and the social welfare facilities. Besides, he said he did not oppose Government’s effort on housing development and had moved a motion earlier to suggest the Government to accord priority to developing Area 137, Tseung Kwan O, for building more housing; but he deeply regretted that the Government insisted on pursuing “infill” housing development.

9. Hon Gary FAN did not accept the conclusion of the consultant that the captioned development would not bring about any unacceptable traffic impact. He pointed out that in addition to buses and public light buses, Mass Transit Railway (MTR) was also a major mass transit carrier in Tseung Kwan O. However, the loading of MTR in the peak hours in the morning and evening had already reached 100% or above, which meant that the loading had reached the full capacity before the completion of the upgrade of the signalling systems. Besides, he considered that the Government should consider building housing on other sites like brownfield sites and vacant club house sites, etc., there was no need to develop GB. He also said the construction of housing in the form of infill development at the site to the south of Chiu Shun Road would lower the overall living standard of the residents in the area, which was not advisable. The traffic in the vicinity of the site to the east of Hong Kong Movie City would be very inconvenient for the local residents. The construction of four high-rise buildings at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village would create wall effect and affect the views of the residents of Ying Ming Court and Yan Ming Court. Moreover, problems like traffic congestion and shortage of car parking spaces in areas near this site had not been improved. SKDC had explicitly expressed opposition to the development of public housing at the above sites for several times, some Members had also expressed their views to TPB. However, in the end, TPB had approved four out of the five applications for rezoning originally proposed by the Government. He considered that the Government should consider the views of Members and residents when making the detailed planning on the developments at the four sites.

10. Mr WAN Kai-ming said given the serious shortage of car parking spaces in the district, some residents had parked their private cars illegally on roads, and were summonsed by the Police as a result. He continued that the Government initially proposed to provide about 45 private car parking spaces on the development at the site to the south of Chiu Shun Road. Although it was planned that the number of car parking spaces would be increased by 30% now, there were still only about 59 car parking spaces. The ratio of domestic flat to car parking space was too low taking into account that about 600 domestic units were proposed to be built at the site. He also said the standard on the provision of car parking spaces in the Hong Kong Planning Standards and Guidelines (HKPSG) was stipulated many years ago, which had become outdated nowadays. He suggested the Government to consider revising the standards of HKPSG. He also enquired about the method of estimating traffic flow adopted by the consultant when it carried out the traffic impact assessments of the developments at the four sites.

11. Mr Francis CHAU was pleased to learn that upon conversion of the existing roundabout at the junction of Ying Yip Road and Po Ning Road (the roundabout at Ying Yip Road) into a signal-controlled junction, dedicated left turning lanes would be provided for traffic heading

5 for three different directions at the junction. He pointed out that SKDC had been striving for providing a dedicated left turning lane for one of the lanes at the above location but to no avail. The Government was finally willing to inject resources and make improvement in view of the housing development at the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road. He pointed out that in fact other road junctions of the same kind in the district were also in need of improvement, and hoped that the Government could further review the situation of these road junctions and make improvement accordingly. He also requested the relevant departments to provide information on the operation of different sets of traffic lights (in particular the traffic light for turning right to Sheung Ning Road from Po Ning Road) after the roundabout at Ying Yip Road was converted into a signal-controlled junction. He further enquired about the supporting transport to be arranged for facilitating residents to travel to and from Hang Hau MTR Stationafter the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road was developed. He continued that housing development was planned at the Clear Water Bay Film Studio site in the future, and it was estimated that about 1 000 residential units would be provided. He asked the departments concerned whether they had also taken into account the corresponding increases in population and vehicular traffic flow arising from such development in the future.

12. Mr LAU Kai-hong said given that the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road was located on a slope with a gradient of 1 in 10, he was concerned about the safety of vehicles that would go up or down the slope in the future. As residents in Sai Kung and Clear Water Bay would pass through the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road for travelling to Kowloon and Tseung Kwan O at present, whenever any traffic accident occurred at the roundabout, the traffic in both Clear Water Bay and Sai Kung would be affected. He requested the Government to widen the roundabout in question, and provide additional lanes there. He also said the old mansion next to the roundabout had been deserted for over 30 years and suggested the Government to consider resuming the site for road widening works. Moreover, given the already serious illegal car parking problem in the vicinity of Tin Ha Wan Village and Fat Tau Chau Village, he was worried that the car parking problem in the above two villages would be worsened with the increase in the number of vehicles if some 600 domestic units were to be built on the site to the south of Chiu Shun Road as proposed. In addition, he suggested opening a new road to connect Pak Shing Kok Road with Mang Kung Uk to facilitate the public to travel between Tseung Kwan O and Clear Water Bay, with a view to reducing the traffic flow at the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road. Furthermore, given that the illegal car parking problem near Yau Yue Wan Playground was very serious at night currently, he hoped that more car parking spaces could be provided at the development plan of the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village. He also suggested converting the Yau Yue Wan Playground into a government complex with multi-storey car park that allowed villagers of Yau Yue Wan to pass through it when they went out or returned home without the need to use the long and steep Yau Yue Wan Village Road in the future.

13. Mr CHEUNG Mei-hung said PlanD and the Civil Engineering and Development Department (CEDD) proposed the rezoning of five GB sites in Tseung Kwan O for public housing development and consulted SKDC on the proposal in 2017. All Members, irrespective of their political parties, unanimously opposed the proposal at that time on the ground that the hasty construction of infill development when there was insufficient supporting transport and community facilities would not only affect the existing residents who lived in areas near the five sites mentioned above, but also the living standard of the residents of the newly built housing. However, the Government had ignored the views of SKDC and submitted the proposal to TPB subsequently in May 2018. Members had put forward their views targeting at different aspects of the captioned development, including traffic, environmental, ancillary and community facilities, etc., and requested CEDD to respond during the last two years. Yet the Government had suggested the relaxation of plot ratio to build more units in the end. Taking the site to the east of Hong Kong Movie City as an example, he said the proposed number of domestic units had increased from about 2 900 in 2017 to 3 140 now. He asked what criteria the Government had based on when making the proposal for relaxation of plot ratio. Besides, as TKO-LTT and the Cross Bay Link (CBL) were expected to be completed between 2022 and 2023, he believed that the anticipated increase in population brought about by the housing developments, which might be tens of thousands, would overload the existing supporting transport facilities in Tseung Kwan O. He continued that as the disciplined services quarters for the Fire Services Department (FSD) and a Chinese medicine hospital were planned to be built in the areas near the site to the east of Hong Kong Movie City, he believed that Wan Po Road could not cope with the increasing traffic flow in the future. He requested for building a new road near the site to connect Clear Water Bay Road or widening the existing roads, or even building a pedestrian linkage system to connect the site with the Hang Hau and LOHAS Park MTR Stations.

14. Ms Christine FONG said after moving to the area, the residents of Tseung Kwan O had been suffering from the shortage of traffic and community facilities, including the lack of public market and the low frequency of train service at LOHAS Park Station, i.e. one train for every seven minutes in peak-hours and one train for every twelve minutes in non-peak hours respectively. Residents and Members had all along been supporting the development of public housing in the district, some Members had even put forward a suggestion to TPB on their own initiatives for constructing public housing at Area 137, Tseung Kwan O, the area of which was almost 100 hectares. However, the Government had not considered the suggestion. On the contrary, the Government had sacrificed GB sites and rezoned them for public housing developments, causing damage the ecological environment. Some green groups even pointed out that about 10,000 trees would be fell as a result of such developments, but the Government had not provided any information on the replanting of trees. She

7 continued that the improper planning of the Government, TPB and MTR Corporation Limited (MTRCL) had caused delay in the works of the shopping mall of MTR in LOHAS Park. The works of CBL were also delayed continuously. She did not accept the consultant’s conclusion that the developments would not bring about any unacceptable traffic impact. Currently, the residents were facing the traffic congestion problem every day, in particular the roads connecting Clear Water Bay Road and Hang Hau. If there was no improvement, it would be difficult for the traffic and community ancillary facilities to support the public housing developments. She requested for: (1) construction of public markets, basketball courts, and pedestrian escalators and lifts; (2) provision of additional car parking spaces and libraries; (3) building of link roads at Area 137, Tseung Kwan O. Moreover, she found it unacceptable that the Transport and Housing Bureau (THB) had not sent any representative to attend the meeting.

15. Mr CHAN Kai-wai considered that the government departments had only focused on development of housing, they had not taken into account the needs of the public in respect of the basic necessities of life, such as clothing, food, accommodation and transportation. He also considered the public transport services, car parking spaces, parks and cultural facilities in the district insufficient, and the overall town planning disappointing. Taking the footbridge across Chiu Shun Road near Tin Ha Wan Village as an example, according to the statistics of the Highways Department (HyD), a pedestrian flow of only several dozen per hour was recorded there. HyD proposed building a lift at one end of the footbridge last year. The proposal was later revised to building one lift each at both ends of the footbridge, the construction cost of which was almost $60 million. However, the residents living in the vicinity of Chiu Shun Road actually hoped for the provision of at-grade crossings which they considered more convenient. Such facilities would be provided to cater for the captioned housing development. He considered the proposal for installing lifts for the footbridge across Chiu Shun Road near Tin Ha Wan Village a waste of public money, and contradicted with the proposal of providing at-grade crossings. In addition, given that the roundabout at Ying Yip Road was already very congested at present, he was sure that the problem would be worsened after the completion of the proposed public housing, and a queue of vehicles might form along Ying Yip Road to Clear Water Bay Road. Besides, to match with the works of TKO-LTT, the roundabout at the junction of Po Yap Road and Po Shun Road had been converted into a signal-controlled junction, and had caused traffic congestion during peak-hours as a result. He was worried that similar problem would appear after the conversion of the roundabout at Ying Yip Road into a signal-controlled junction in the future. In the 90s, Tseung Kwan O Tunnel was not connected to any flyover. The Government then built flyover to divert the traffic to cater for the increase in traffic flow. He suggested the Government to build similar facilities at Ying Yip Road or formulate other practicable options.

16. Mr Edwin CHEUNG was dissatisfied that the consultant had not provided comprehensive information (including the anticipated traffic flow at each site) before the meeting. He anticipated that the four sites would have a population of about 21,000 people. Although the residents would go out mainly by buses, public light buses and MTR in the future, TD had not explained whether the frequencies of such services would be increased. Moreover, both MTR and THB had not sent any representative to attend the meeting to explain the overall plan for public transport in the future, e.g. the increase in passenger capacity after MTR had completed the upgrading of signalling systems, etc. He was pleased to see that social welfare facilities would be provided at the four sites. However, he estimated that the proposed retail facilities would just be convenience stores, which he considered unlikely to meet the demand arising from the population growth. In fact, the restaurants in the district was already very crowded, he was worried that the situation would be worsened after the proposed housing developments were completed. He reiterated that Members would not obstruct the development of public housing because it could help solving the housing problem, but they hoped that through the implementation of the captioned housing development projects, the government departments could supplement the insufficient facilities in the community, which included making improvement to road traffic, enhancing public transport services, and providing more community facilities like public markets and restaurants, etc. He also hoped that THB would take the lead in conducting a comprehensive review with the departments concerned on how to develop housing while making further improvement to the living standard of residents in the district at the same time.

17. Mr Peter LAU pointed out that the Kowloon bound and Tseung Kwan O bound of the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road were very congested before 8:00 a.m. every day. He expected that the traffic flow at this roundabout would increase significantly given that the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road would provide 144 car parking spaces in the future; and that with the rapid development in areas near the site, a traffic flow of over 1,000 was anticipated for the future development at SHAW Studios on Clear Water Bay Road, and such vehicles had to pass through the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road when going to and from Tseung Kwan O or TKO-LTT. In this connection, he suggested the Government to resume the site of the deserted mansion next to the roundabout for widening the roundabout, expanding the number of lanes or constructing a flyover. He also suggested opening a link road between Ying Yip Road and Clear Water Bay Road to alleviate the traffic pressure of the roundabout in question. Moreover, the Hang Hau Rural Committee had also been highly concerned about the impact of the development in the vicinity of Ying Yip Road on the villagers in the rural areas nearby.

18. Mr LAI Ming-chak opposed the infill development on GB sites by the Government and

9 considered that such planning would have a significant impact on residents living in surrounding areas. The site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road was located on a steep slope, making it necessary for the residents to travel to and from the Hang Hau MTR Station by public transport. The consultant suggested expanding the lanes on Ying Yip Road, and it seemed that the provision of lay-by had not been considered. He would like to learn more about the boarding and alighting arrangements for passengers of public transport at the location in question. He suggested making reference to the existing arrangements of Hiu Lai Court in Kwun Tong, i.e. allowing public light buses to enter the estates for picking up or setting down passengers to avoid them from having to stop at the sides of Ying Yip Road thus obstructing the traffic, in particular the heavy vehicles on the slow lanes. He continued to enquire whether the proposed flyover across Ying Yip Road was built to facilitate the future residents of the site at Clear Water Bay Film Studio to travel to and from the housing development site at Ying Yip Road and to use the facilities and public transport there. Besides, he was pleased to see the provision of neighbourhood elderly centre at the site to the south of Chiu Shun Road, but he suggested the departments concerned to consider providing such facilities by reducing the number of domestic units instead of increasing the plot ratio. As for the views to swap the positions of the proposed residential building and the social welfare facilities to avoid affecting the residents of Tin Ha Wan Village and Fat Tau Chau Village, he pointed out that when the positions of the two buildings were swapped, the proposed residential building would also affect the residents of La Cite Noble. He requested the Government to plan and design the buildings in a way that would affect neither of the residents mentioned above. On the other hand, he believed that the completion of TKO-LTT might alleviate the external transport problem of Tseung Kwan O. However, as the residents in rural areas had to reach TKO-LTT via Chiu Shun Road, he anticipated that the traffic congestion problem of Chiu Shun Road would be worsened in the future. Lastly, residents in the district mainly commuted on MTR. However, a train collision accident occurred when MTRCL was testing the signalling system earlier, which resulted in the delay of the upgrading of signalling systems of all lines. He was worried that the passenger capacity of the Tseung Kwan O Line could not be enhanced in time to cope with the increase in population in the district.

19. Mr LUI Man-kwong queried that the Government had increased the proposed number of flats at the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village and the site to the east of Hong Kong Movie City to replace the number of flats at the site to the north of Tseung Kwan O Village, where the rezoning proposal for a change in land use was not approved by TPB. He said SKDC opposed the housing developments at the five sites at that time because of the dense population and the lack of transport, leisure and cultural services facilities, etc., in Tseung Kwan O. He requested the Government to provide justifications for further increasing the number of flats now, and whether it had formulated

10 any solution to solve all problems mentioned in the past. Besides, although he was pleased to see that different community facilities would be provided at the development sites, he considered it more ideal if these facilities could be provided through a reduction in the number of domestic units instead of an increase in plot ratio. He also said the traffic of Ying Yip Road during the morning peak hours was already very busy. The Government must adopt effective measures to ease the traffic flow, e.g. widening the roundabout, in response to the additional population of 1,730 households. Moreover, the roundabout at the junction of Po Yap Road and Po Shun Road, which was converted into a signal-controlled junction to match with the works of TKO-LTT, had become a bottleneck. He asked the consultant how they would ensure that similar problem would not appear at the crossroad at the junction of Ying Yip Road and Po Ning Road. Furthermore, given that the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road was situated on a slope, the Government must first provide proper transport connection for residents to travel to and from the Hang Hau MTR Station in the future. Lastly, he considered that MTR had already reached the full capacity at present. An increase of some 20,000 people in population would aggravate the overall traffic load in Tseung Kwan O.

20. Mr LEUNG Li was also worried about the impact on transport and community facilities after the completion of the proposed housing. Moreover, in a letter to all SKDC Members, the Conservancy Association pointed out that according to the paper submitted by government departments to SKDC, about 4,800 trees needed to be fell or transplanted within the boundaries of works areas at the four sites. However, it was set out in the paper submitted by government departments to TPB that 95 and 10,861 trees needed to be transplanted and removed respectively at those sites. He enquired about the exact number of trees to be transplanted, removed or replanted. In addition, he also asked the consultant to provide the number of plants with conservation value, such as Aquilaria sinensis (incense trees), within the boundaries of works areas, and to respond on the ecological compensation measures it would adopt.

21. Mr CHUNG Kam-lun said the information provided by the departments two years ago and now were both lacking in details. If the plot ratio was increased as proposed, he was worried that the problems associated with the increase in population would be worsened. According to the proposal put forward this time, for the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village, apart from increasing the plot ratio, the height of the buildings would also be further increased. Taking into account that the construction of 44-storey buildings on a relatively small site would not only create wall effect, but would also completely block the views of the hills behind Ying Ming Court, he was opposed to the proposal. Besides, in response to the conclusion of the consultant that the development project would not impose any unacceptable traffic impact, he requested the consultant to provide more detailed information and explain

11 the research methods that had been adopted. Furthermore, as set out in the paper submitted by the Government to TPB earlier, the existing traffic volume/capacity ratio (v/c ratio) of Ying Yip Road southbound was about 0.85, and the estimated v/c ratio would be about 1.06 for both 2024 and 2029 after the construction of housing. He enquired about the change in the ratio and whether it would still be greater than 1 after the completion of the proposed road improvement works. He also said since the traffic congestion at the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road was very serious at present, he would like to get such figures as a reference.

22. Mr WONG Shui-sang said the housing developments would make the roads between Sai Kung and Tseung Kwan O more congested. He suggested the Government to build a railway to link up Sai Kung and Ma On Shan and to build more car parks.

23. Mr Stanley TAM was doubtful about the conclusion of the consultant that the developments would not bring about any unacceptable traffic impact. PlanD said it would engage another consultant to carry out studies on two sites, i.e. the site to the west of Tsui Lam Estate, and the site from the bus terminus at the southern part of Hong Sing Garden to the northern part of Mau Wu Tsai respectively. It was still unknown whether the findings of the studies would show that the proposals in question were feasible. Furthermore, even though the provision of more community facilities was proposed, the plot ratio of the developments would be increased as well. He was personally dissatisfied with the captioned development and the revision to the plot ratio, and considered the increase of plot ratio to the upper limit not the only option. The proposed buildings of more than 40 storeys would block the views of existing residents. He also pointed out that when the housing development at Shin Ming Estate was discussed in the past, there was strong opposition in the community. In the end, the departments concerned agreed to lower the densities of buildings. He hoped that the Government would respond to the views of the community regarding the developments in question and would not increase the plot ratio and build higher buildings against the views of the majority.

24. Mr Raymond HO said the majority of assistance-seeking cases he received were related to housing. He pointed out that the existing waiting time for public housing was as long as six to ten years, and the shortage of public housing was a problem common to all 18 districts. Given that public housing located in remote areas, such as Tung Chung, was very inconvenient for residents, he said a balance between developing public housing to meet housing demand and the convenience of residents should be achieved. Moreover, given that some members of the public who planned to acquire homes but were unable to afford the high property prices had a very keen demand on the units put up for sale under the Home Ownership Scheme (HOS) and the Green Form Subsidised Home Ownership Scheme, even though the planning of the four sites was indeed unsatisfactory, he still considered it necessary

12 for the Government to cater for the needs of residents in the district who were currently waiting for public housing or with home purchase needs. He also pointed out that as the daily-living needs and lifestyle of residents of tenanted public housing and HOS were different, he would like to know the proportion of public housing and HOS flats and the layout of the four sites in question. In addition, given the higher altitude of the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, he suggested the Government to study the feasibility of building uphill escalators or lifts to connect the site with the Hang Hau area or other alternatives. Besides, as he expected that a lot of vehicles would enter and leave the day care centre for the elderly to be built on the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, he suggested the departments concerned to consider setting up other types of community facilities there to reduce the number of vehicles. Furthermore, for the public light bus route that passed through the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, he enquired whether a stop would be set up there in the future and whether the site was within the service area of New Territories taxis.

25. Mr Jonathan CHAN considered that the consultant and government departments had not provided SKDC with comprehensive planning data, in particular the estimated traffic flow, before the meeting, thus making it difficult for SKDC to have effective discussion. He pointed out that the section of road to Tseung Kwan O Tunnel via Sheung Ning Road was extremely congested every morning, and the problem was complained by residents frequently. He requested the consultant to provide the estimated traffic flow of buses, public light buses and other vehicles for Ying Yip Road, and the v/c ratio during the peak hours in the morning and evening. He also enquired whether the consultant had included the future development of Clear Water Bay Film Studio and the relevant data into the study; and whether parking spaces for nanny vans would be provided at the location in question. Besides, given that TKO Market was the market where good prices were highest at present, he was worried that the increase in population would further push up good prices, and asked how the Government would improve such situation.

26. Mr CHONG Yuen-tung said he understood that there was an acute demand on housing and the Government had been actively identifying sites to develop public housing in recent years. The Government proposed to develop public housing on five GB sites in Tseung Kwan O about two years ago. SKDC opposed the proposal and suggested the Government to consider building a community that could accommodate more than 100,000 people at Area 137, Tseung Kwan O. The concentration of new population in a new community could facilitate the handling of problems related to supporting transport in a more focused manner, for example, providing a new railway connecting Hong Kong Island or other parts of Kowloon. He hoped that the Government could complete the study as soon as possible. Regarding the study relating to the four sites, he pointed out that the consultant had only conducted the traffic impact assessment according to the existing and the anticipated increases

13 in population and number of vehicles, while the increases in population and number of vehicles brought about by other new developments under planning or to be completed soon, including the Clear Water Bay Film Studio, LOHAS Park, Sai Kung Town Centre, Mount Pavilia, were not considered together. He continued that the Government should improve the long-existing problems in the district through the captioned development, which included: (1) speeding up the progress of the Hiram’ Highway Improvement Stage 1 and Stage 2 projects; (2) the building of multi-storey car park on the GB sites in Hang Hau; (3) improving community facilities like building of public market and implementation of the expansion of Tseung Kwan O Hospital; (4) improving the external traffic of Tseung Kwan O, e.g. introducing ferry services to alleviate the traffic loads of the Tseung Kwan O Tunnel and MTR, etc.

27. Mr Philip LI said given the shortage of community facilities, the residents reacted strongly to the captioned development. Among the four sites, the one to the northwest of Ying Yip Road would have relatively more impact on the rural areas in Sai Kung. He said the extension works carried out at the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road recently had temporarily relieved the traffic congestion from Sai Kung to Tseung Kwan O. However, as there would be housing development project in Shaw Brothers’ Studio soon, he was worried that the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road would be congested again in the future with the possible housing development at the Clear Water Bay Film Studio in the future, and the development at the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road. He enquired whether the consultant had considered the development parameters of the above projects as well when estimating the reserve capacity of Ying Yip Road after its conversion into a signal-controlled junction. In addition, he considered that the Government should also take into account the supporting facilities of all nearby junctions, viz. the junction of Ying Yip Road and Sheung Ning Road, the junction of Ying Yip Road and Clear Water Bay Road, and the junction of Clear Water Bay Road and Ngan Ying Road, for solving all traffic problems together. Furthermore, given that a day care centre for the elderly would be set up at the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, he requested for including the site in the service area of New Territories taxis.

28. Mr YAU Yuk-lun said increasing housing supply was one of the priorities of the Chief Executive (CE). However, other government departments had not taken appropriate actions to match with it, thus the ancillary facilities on the periphery were not improved. For the areas in the vicinity of the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, the traffic congestion problem was very serious. There were insufficient ancillary facilities on the roads too. In this connection, he had put forward many improvement proposals to TD over the years, but they had never been implemented. Such proposals included: (1) commencing the study on East Kowloon Line as soon as possible and extending the route of the railway to Hong Kong

University of Science and Technology; (2) widening to four-lane of the section of Clear Water Bay Road from Tai Po Tsai Village to the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road; (3) constructing a four-lane flyover to connect Hiram’s Highway with Chiu Shun Road, with a view to reducing the traffic load of Chiu Shun Road after the commissioning of TKO-LTT and CBL in the future. He urged the departments concerned to coordinate and formulate the proposals for solving the problems mentioned above. Moreover, he considered the proposed number of car parking spaces to be provided at the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road not advisable because they only accounted for less than 10% of the total number of flats to be provided. He also pointed out that the site was more suitable for developing high-class low-density residential buildings.

29. Professor CHAN Siu-yuen, Associate Director, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited, gave a consolidated reply to Members’ views as follows:  The roundabout at the junction of Ying Yip Road and Clear Water Bay Road: The existing gradients of the road sections from Ying Yip Road to the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road and from Clear Water Bay Road (at the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road) to Kowloon had already reached the maximum of 10% as stipulated in the Transport Planning and Design Manual (TPDM). The consultant explained with the aid of slides that, even if a link road was built beside the private residential development site on Ying Yip Road nearest the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road to enable vehicles to use the link road to access Clear Water Bay Road and then head for Kowloon via the proposed climbing lane on Ying Yip Road, the gradient of the link road would be as high as 14.3%, which far exceeded the maximum limit stipulated in TPDM, i.e. the gradient on expressways, trunk roads, primary distributors and bus routes should not exceed a maximum of 8%, and the gradient for other roads should not exceed 10%. This was because the length of the link road was shorter than the existing road, and the level difference would remain the same. Moreover, owing to the private residential site there, it was impossible to further extend the length of the link road to reduce the gradient. As for the suggestion that the Government should resume the private residential site in question, further study was required. [Post-meeting note of TD: the carriageway from Clear Water Bay Road to the roundabout at Silverstrand was improved and widened to a 2-lane carriage road in end-June 2018. The operation of the improved roundabout at Silverstrand was generally normal.]  The roundabout at the junction of Ying Yip Road and Po Ning Road: Generally speaking, for crossroad with low traffic flow, the provision of roundabout was suitable because it could enable vehicles from different directions to enter the roundabout at the same time, thus reducing the waiting time of vehicles

at the junctions of the crossroad. However, with the increase in traffic flow at the roundabout, it would be difficult for vehicles to enter the roundabout. As such, it was necessary to upgrade the junctions of the crossroad to signal-controlled junction where dedicated journey time would be allocated to vehicles at every junction. For the crossroad at the junction of Ying Yip Road and Po Ning Road, the traffic signals under the initial design could facilitate the vehicles at the four junctions to proceed in a sequence to be repeated continuously, which was: Po Ning Road westbound, Ying Yip Road southbound, Po Ning Road eastbound and then Sheung Ning Road northbound. After the conversion into signal-controlled junction, three junctions at the crossroad would be provided with dedicated left turning lanes. As there would be no pedestrian green time for the traffic lights at that crossroad, which meant that pedestrians could only cross the road at the pedestrian crossings on each junction when no vehicle was using the relevant road sections, the conversion would not affect the time in which the vehicles could use the road. Besides, the consultant had reviewed the waiting time of vehicles at such junctions to see whether the vehicles would queue back to the previous junctions after the conversion of the junctions of the crossroad into signal-controlled junction. According to the findings of the study, there would be adequate distance between the vehicle queues at each of the four junctions at the crossroad and the previous junctions. It was believed that the proposed traffic arrangement could sufficiently cope with the anticipated traffic flow.  Trees being affected: The number of affected trees set out in the paper submitted by the Government to TPB earlier was derived from the findings of the tree group survey conducted during the early planning stage; while the figures set out in the paper submitted to SKDC this time were derived after conducting a more detailed individual tree survey, which included the numbering and labelling, photo taking and measuring of crowns of every trees, etc. The findings of the latter were more accurate than the former and the number of affected trees derived from the findings of the latter was thus fewer.

As the site on Chiu Shun Road was once a site of works, it was not within the coverage of the above tree surveys. However, it was understood that there was one large tree within the site and HD was planning to have it preserved. For the remaining three sites, the findings of the tree surveys were as follows:

No. of Trees to be No. of Trees to be Site of Works Type of Tree transplanted fell Northwest of Ying Ordinary tree 37 1 684

Yip Road Important tree 0 11 West of Yau Yue Ordinary tree 11 1 970 Wan Village Important tree 0 45 East of Hong Ordinary tree 0 925 Kong Movie City Important tree 0 8 Total: 48 4 643

30. Ms Christine FONG said the private residential building next to the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road had been deserted for nearly 20 years. As mentioned by the consultant, the difficulty in constructing a carriageway to connect Ying Yip Road with Clear Water Bay Road was partly attributable to the private residential building. She suggested the Government to resume the private site. However, given that TPB had approved the housing development plan of the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, she believed that the Government would not have much bargaining power over the resumption of the private site. She also criticised the Government for the lack of proper planning before implementing the developments in question. The proposed housing to be built on the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road could enjoy a panoramic view of Silverstrand, and its land premium was estimated to be almost $20,000 per foot. She considered that the Government should make better utilisation of the relevant resources, for example, using the proceeds from land sales to build subsidised housing for the young generation. She supported the development of more public housing by the Government, however, she considered it not preferable if the supporting transport and community facilities on the periphery of public housing were inconvenient for the residents. Some Members had proposed developing public housing at Area 137, Tseung Kwan O, but so far the Government had not given any positive response. As for the substantial discrepancy between the number of affected trees set out in the paper submitted by the Government to TPB and those already provided by the consultant, she suspected that the real figures might have been covered up.

31. Mr LAU Kai-hong suggested increasing the length of the link road mentioned above to reduce its gradient. He said there was once another link road connecting Ying Yip Road with Clear Water Bay Road before the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road was constructed. The link road was connected with Ying Yip Road at a position to the north of the site under the existing proposal of the consultant and was longer with a relatively gentle gradient. He hoped that the consultant would reconsider the proposal. Besides, an additional northbound lane would be provided for Ying Yip Road. By then, vehicles on the southbound lane of Ying Yip Road had to cross two northbound lanes before entering the housing estate, and this might constitute safety concern. Moreover, if the vehicles leaving Ying Yip Road from the housing estate had to turn left and go to the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road to head for different directions, he was worried that this would further worsen the congestion at the roundabout. 17

Currently, vehicles leaving Chap Fuk Road could turn left for the southbound lane of Ying Yip Road and make a U-turn at the roundabout at Ying Yip Road for the northbound lane of Ying Yip Road and then head for Clear Water Bay. Following the conversion of the roundabout into signal-controlled junction, vehicles leaving Chap Fuk Road had to travel a longer journey before they could go back to the northbound lane of Ying Yip Road. He enquired whether the vehicles would be allowed to turn right to the northbound lane of Ying Yip Road directly from Chap Fuk Road after the improvement works were completed. If not, he suggested that a set of traffic lights should be provided at Ying Yip Road near the junction of Chap Fuk Road.

32. Mr Frankie LAM said, for the proposed hillside public housing with 1,730 flats to be built on the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road, he hoped that the Government could make better planning on the road networks and transport services, in particular the bus and public light bus services for carrying residents to the nearby MTR station, so as to avoid repeating the same transport service shortage problem as in the uphill area of Po Lam. In addition, since the substantial number of vehicles heading for Hang Hau from the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road via Ying Yip Road or Hang Hau Road every morning had caused traffic congestion, he considered that when identifying sites for building housing, the Government should carefully consider whether such sites were suitable.

33. Mr Francis CHAU enquired about the duration of green time of different sets of traffic lights at the junction of Ying Yip Road and Po Ning Road in the future. He agreed with Mr LAU Kai-hong that when the roundabout at Ying Yip Road was converted into signal-controlled junction, vehicles leaving Chap Fuk Road for the northbound lane of Ying Yip Road had to travel a longer journey. He would also like to know whether the vehicles could turn to the right for the northbound lane of Ying Yip Road from Chap Fuk Road directly after the completion of the improvement works. If not, he also agreed that a set of traffic lights should be installed at Ying Yip Road near the junction of Chap Fuk Road. In addition, he said the pedestrians could cross Po Ning Road with the subway on Ying Yip Road near Po Leung Kok Ho Yuk Ching (1984) College at present. However, there were only staircases at the entrance of the subway on Ying Yip Road, and a ramp was only available at the entrance near Fu Ning Garden. He requested for improving the design of the subway with a view to providing barrier-free facilities that could facilitate the future residents of the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road to use the subway. Moreover, he pointed out that at the early stage planning of Ying Yip Road, spaces had been reserved for the construction of a link road for Clear Water Bay Road, but such design was removed from the planning subsequently. He found it regrettable and hoped that the Government and the consultant could reconsider the provision of such link road.

34. Mr LAI Ming-chak said, an additional northbound lane would be provided for Ying Yip Road, by then vehicles on the southbound lane of Ying Yip Road needed to cross two northbound lanes to enter the housing estate. Even though a set of traffic lights would be installed near the entrance of the housing estate, he was still worried that the situation would be very chaotic. If vehicles on the southbound lane of Ying Yip Road were prohibited from turning right to enter the housing estate, then the drivers would have to move along Ying Yip Road to Po Ning Road and take a U-turn at the roundabout near Tseung Kwan O Hospital, or take a U-turn at the road sections in the town centre of Hang Hau for the northbound lane of Ying Yip Road. This would not only cause inconvenience to local residents, but also aggravate the traffic congestion in the town centre of Hang Hau. He requested the consultant to seriously review the traffic arrangement in question.

35. The Chairman announced that the meeting was adjourned for a break of 10 minutes.

(The meeting was resumed on 11:43 a.m.)

36. The Chairman asked Members to focus on traffic issues when they spoke, and said their views would be followed up by TTC and the Housing and Environmental Hygiene Committee (HEHC), or reflected to government departments through other channels. He also asked the relevant departments to conduct in-depth study after listening to Members’ views. He expected that by virtue of the developments of the four public housing sites, inter-departmental collaboration could be enhanced which would be conducive to addressing the existing shortage of ancillary facilities in the district as well. He also asked the Sai Kung District Office (SKDO) to assist in facilitating collaboration among different departments.

37. Mr YAU Yuk-lun requested for providing a pedestrian subway near the roundabout at Ying Yip Road as a road safety measures for residents going to and from Duckling Hill and the cyclists. He also requested the Government to resume the private residential building site next to the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road for widening of the roundabout and providing a link road between Ying Yip Road and Clear Water Bay Road. Moreover, the public transport service and pedestrian linkage system at the site to the northwest of Ying Yip Road were insufficient, and the number of proposed car parking spaces at the site only accounted for about 10% of the units to be built. He therefore requested for providing more car parking spaces at the site.

38. Mr Peter LAU considered that the proposed traffic light at the junction of Ying Yip Road and Po Ning Road would cause traffic chaos. Vehicles leaving Hang Hau Village would need to travel a longer journey for the northbound lane of Ying Yip Road. He was also worried that this would result in tailbacks that extended to the roundabout at the junction

19 of Po Lam Road North and Po Ning Road. Besides, he requested the Government to resume the private residential building site next to the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road on the ground of public interest, with a view to improving the design and operation of the roundabout. Lastly, he urged the Government to actively follow up the traffic problems of Ying Yip Road and Chiu Shun Road, otherwise, the Hang Hau Rural Committee would consider taking further action on the subject matter.

39. The Chairman invited Members to offer their views on the public housing development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village (the development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village).

40. Mr LEUNG Li said the tables about trees just shown by the consultant were not included in the presentation slides. He asked the department concerned to provide Members with the information after the meeting. Besides, he enquired whether the important trees shown in the tables were the trees listed in the Register of Old and Valuable Trees.

41. Mr YAU Yuk-lun said the proposed number of car parking spaces to be provided next to Yau Yue Wan Village could not meet the demand of households of government quarters and residents in nearby areas, while the shortage of car parking spaces in Ying Ming Court had already caused illegal parking in Yau Yue Wan Village. He anticipated that the completion of the development in the future would worsen the illegal parking problem. He suggested building the proposed social welfare and retail facilities block at the existing location of the Yau Yue Wan Playground car park to be incorporated with multi-storey and underground car parking facilities; while a multi-storey car park should be constructed at the proposed social welfare and retail facilities block. He also said he understood that the Government could not build a pedestrian subway at the location in question because it was necessary to build large-scale underground water mains there. He also pointed out that many trees had collapsed after Typhoon “Mangkhut” hit Hong Kong, most of which were Ficus elastica (India-rubber trees) and Acacia confuse (acacia). As those trees were already aged 30 to 40, they might wither naturally even if they had not collapsed during the typhoon. He suggested the Government to avoid planting those tree species when carrying out greening in the future.

42. Mr Raymond HO said the development of Mount Verdant in Tiu Keng Leng would be completed soon. The Hong Kong Housing Society had, after listening to the views of local community, adopted the policy of “single site, multiple uses” for Mount Verdant and provided an underground car park and at-grade retail facilities there. He considered that the Government could consider providing an underground car park at the planned social welfare and retail facilities block under the development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village. He said given that the facilities under the existing planning included a Day Activity Centre

20 and a service unit for students with special educational needs where the use of special coaches to carry students to and from the block in the future was very likely, he expected that the block would need to reserve a large number of car parking spaces for the service providers in the future. In addition, for the proposed kindergarten under the development, he requested SWD and the Education Bureau to consider in the tendering process awarding the tenders for operating the relevant child care centre and kindergarten to the same educational institution, having regard to factors like hardware and locations, etc., for achieving a greater synergy effect and benefiting more students.

43. Mr LUI Man-kwong said he had requested TD to submit a study report on the shortage of car parking spaces in Tseung Kwan O. As there was shortage of car parking spaces in both Tseung Kwan O South and Tseung Kwan O North, he requested the Government to consider developing more underground car parks. Moreover, as only 200 car parking spaces would be provided under the existing development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village, which could not meet the demand of residents, he considered HKPSG outdated and hoped that the Government could increase the provision of car parking spaces in the above development.

44. Mr LAI Ming-chak said the development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village would have two entrances in the future. SKDC had all along believed that the main entrance would be located at Po Lam Road North, however, as the consultant had just reported, the main entrance would be located at Yau Yue Wan Village Road behind the Yau Yue Wan Village Pai Lau instead. He would like to know if the residents of Yau Yue Wan Village were agreeable to such arrangements. Secondly, Yau Yue Wan Village Road was a single lane ramp with many illegally parked vehicles on both sides, he asked the department concerned whether the traffic flow brought about by the quarters for FSD and the quarters for the Customs and Excise Department (C&ED) had been taken into account when carrying out the relevant planning. Moreover, the proposed car park under the development would provide 200 car parking spaces. He enquired whether Yau Yue Wan Village Road could absorb the additional traffic flow. He anticipated that the illegal parking problem at the location in question would be worsening in the future, and suggested the Government to consider relocating the main entrance of the development to Po Lam Road North. In addition, the presentation slides did not show the location of the proposed car park, he asked the department concerned whether it had carried out the relevant planning and site identification of the car park. Lastly, he hoped that the Government could widen Yau Yue Wan Village Road to cope with the future traffic flow. He also agreed to the rezoning of the proposed car park at Yau Yue Wan Playground for a multi-storey car park.

45. Mr CHONG Yuen-tung said he believed that the locations of the planned social welfare

21 and retail facilities block near Block 1 and the proposed underground car park at Block 3 would result in higher costs. He suggested providing the social welfare and retail facilities together with the underground car park at Yau Yue Wan Playground car park to match with the “single site, multiple uses” policy. He hoped that after occupying the relevant GB site, the Government could meet the needs of the existing residents and solve the car parking spaces shortage problem in the vicinity of Yau Yue Wan Village through the provision of new facilities. Moreover, the population in Yau Yue Wan Village was aging. The villagers had to go out and return to their homes by climbing up or down hundreds of steps. As he estimated that it would take a very long time if such problem was to be solved through the Universal Accessibility Programme, he suggested the Government to consider installing a lift at the social welfare and retail facilities and car park block, and connected the block with Yau Yue Wan with a view to solving the problem of shortage of car parking spaces and the difficulty the residents encountered when going out and returning to their home together. He also believed that such arrangement could relieve the opposition from residents.

46. Mr CHUNG Kam-lun opposed the proposal submitted by HD because he considered the development intensity of the development at Yau Yue Wan Village Road too high.

47. Mr Peter LAU said the illegal parking problem at Yau Yue Wan Village Road had caused road obstruction. He suggested the Government to convert the car park at Yau Yue Wan Playground into a multi-storey community complex with barrier-free facilities to enable villagers of Yau Yue Wan Village to go out and return to their homes via the multi-storey car park, which he believed could relieve the residents’ opposition.

48. Mr Francis CHAU said Yau Yue Wan Village was a re-sited village. SKDC had requested the Government to improve the public car park of the village to reduce the pressure on its traffic and ancillary facilities brought about by two developments, i.e. the quarters for FSD and C&ED respectively. He also considered that the development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village would have significant impact on Ying Ming Court; and the Pai Fong of Yau Yue Wan Village might need to be demolished because it would obstruct the entrance. He put forward a suggestion that the Government should consider carrying out comprehensive development at Yau Yue Wan Playground or car park, and he believed that the suggestion was one of the prerequisites for obtaining the local community’s consent to the development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village. Besides, as some 2,700 domestic flats would be provided under the development, if the Government would only provide 200 car parking spaces, even the current demand on car parking spaces could not be met. He also pointed out that Members had all along been suggesting the Government to plan Area 137, Tseung Kwan O as a whole. However, the Government still continued with infill development of housing. Taking the development proposed this time as an example, many of the sites

22 involved were concentrated in Tseung Kwan O North. The existing burden of the supporting traffic facilities would be increased as one single MTR station had to provide service for a community with a population of 100,000 people in the future. Moreover, he considered the trees inside the sites not unimportant because the majority of GBs in Tseung Kwan O were located in the periphery of the town centre, while the intensity of development at the inner part of the town was very high. Furthermore, he agreed that the proposed new kindergarten and child care centre should be operated by one single operator, otherwise, it would be difficult to maintain the operation given the serious population ageing problem of the location in question. He reiterated that he opposed the development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village because of the lack of relevant ancillary facilities.

49. Ms Christine FONG considered the suggestion of converting the car park at Yau Yue Wan Playground into ancillary community facilities cum underground car park worth considering. If SKDC had reached a consensus on the suggestion, then TPB, CEDD and HD should adopt Members’ views. She also considered that if the development of public housing by the Government had given rise to community facility problems, the Government should not only meet the needs of the additional population, but also complement the existing inadequacies in the community. She also pointed out that the heights of the developments at the sites to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village and the east of Hong Kong Movie City were 140 metres (m) and 210 m above Principal Datum (mPd) respectively, which would have huge impact on the planning, ridgelines and bright sunshine of the sites. In addition, she said given that there were still idle government lands near the identified site of the Yau Yue Wan Village Road development, the Government should consider making a more comprehensive planning and increasing the number of car parking spaces to avoid the traffic problem in the vicinity of Po Lam from further worsening due to the provision of market or restaurants there in the future.

50. The Chairman invited Members to put forward their views on the public housing development to the east of Hong Kong Movie City (the development to the east of Movie City).

51. Mr CHEUNG Mei-hung said the report only provided information on the traffic flow on Pak Shing Kok Road. Under the development to the east of Movie City, the only entrance was Wan Po Road which connected with Pak Shing Kok Road. He therefore asked the consultant to submit the traffic flow statistics on Wan Po Road as well. In addition, while the other three developments involved road widening works, there was no plan for widening Pak Shing Kok Road. Instead, only a pedestrian walkway would be provided. Apart from the housing development to the east of Movie City, there was also a planned development of a Chinese Medicine Hospital and the development of FSD staff quarters which was already

23 underway in the locality He would like to know whether the population and traffic flow statistics brought about by such developments had been taken into account, and whether consideration would be given to widening the road in question. He also suggested the Government to build a new road on Pak Shing Kok for connecting Clear Water Bay Road, or to provide escalators connecting the public housing under planning to LOHAS Park or Hang Hau.

52. Mr CHUNG Kam-lun would like to understand the existing reserve capacity of Pak Shing Kok Road, Wan Po Road, and the two junctions at Lohas Park Road and Wan Po Road respectively. He also asked whether there would be any difference in the capacity of those two junctions before and after developing public housing at Pak Shing Kok.

53. Mr CHONG Yuen-tung said CBL would be completed in 2022 or 2023, which was close to the completion date of the development to the east of Movie City. It was expected that by then, the vehicles could go to TKO-LTT via CBL heading for Kowloon and Kwun Tong direct. As most of the buildings in LOHAS Park were private residential buildings, many residents would go out by private vehicles; coupled with the existing traffic flow of Tseung Kwan O South, he was worried that the outgoing vehicles would tailback and might form a bottleneck in Kwun Tong. He pointed out that as vehicles leaving and entering the development to the east of Movie City and Oscar by the Sea needed to drive through the same junction, he was worried that it would cause serious traffic congestion in the future. He enquired how the Government would improve the traffic flow on Wan Po Road and suggested the Government to improve the bend of 90 degrees near the identified site, and provided more detailed traffic impact assessment data. In addition, he requested the departments concerned to respond whether CBL would have sufficient reserve capacity to cope with the developments to be completed in phases in LOHAS Park in the future. Furthermore, as the Government had increased the plot ratio of the public housing development concerned, he was worried that the views of LOHAS Park would be affected. He had reservation over the Government’s further increasing the plot ratio and hoped that the Government could make an overall planning on the ancillary transport facilities of the community, and consider reducing the plot ratio for the views of LOHAS Park.

54. Mr LUI Man-kwong expressed concern about whether Wan Po Road could cope with the additional traffic flow brought about by the development to the east of Movie City. Although many vehicles driving through the roads in the vicinity of LOHAS Park would use CBL in the future, the completion of public housing development at Pak Shing Kok would further affect the traffic flow, in particular that of TKO-LTT. He hoped that the department could provide the traffic impact assessment data of Wan Po Road or the relevant tunnels.

55. Ms Christine FONG said the building height of the development to the east of Movie City was as high as 210 mPd. SKDC received a letter from the Owners’ Committee of the Beaumont which pointed out that given the existing insufficient ancillary transport facilities, the further increase in plot ratio was undesirable. She hoped that PlanD and HD would consider their views. Secondly, HD would build a basement car park at Pak Shing Kok. She considered that the Government should provide social welfare, recreational and retail facilities at the podiums of the blocks where the car park was located rather than providing such facilities in a separate block. In addition, taking into account the inadequate public transport service in the vicinity of Pak Shing Kok, and the development of a Chinese medicine hospital nearby, she suggested the Government to consider adding a MTR station at Pak Shing Kok, and connecting Oscar by the Sea with LOHAS Park and Beaumont, which she believed could bring enormous benefits to the community. She also considered it more reasonable to provide markets, restaurants and community facilities under the development to the east of Movie City for use by residents in the district. Lastly, she asked whether the proportion of nursery and other retail facilities could be adjusted because the phenomenon of “closing schools” had occurred in Po Lam, and many vacant sites in LOHAS Park had been reserved for building schools. She considered that it might not be necessary to provide too many educational facilities for the nearby communities.

56. Mr Francis CHAU said 3,140 flats would be provided under the development to the east of Movie City while green minibus service was already available for Oscar By the Sea, which had only 1,959 flats. He would like to know how the Government would strengthen the public transport service in the district in response to the development to the east of Movie City, and the developments of the quarters of FSD and other public facilities. Besides, he pointed out that the existing traffic signal waiting time on Wan Po Road was rather long, and asked if the waiting time would be adjusted after the development to the east of Movie City had started.

57. Mr CHAN Kai-wai said the Fire and Ambulance Services Academy was located in Pak Shing Kok. On the Open Day of the Academy that was held on a regular basis, traffic congestion and disruption would occur and the implementation of road closure was necessary even if there were only several thousand visitors every time. Moreover, he asked the Government whether the projected traffic flow was calculated on the assumption that the operation period of the Fill Bank would not be further extended, and whether the figures had included the several thousands of dumpers currently travelling to and from the Fill Bank.

58. Ms Eva LAM, Associate, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited, said no tree listed in the Register of Old and Valuable Trees was affected under the development. Old and valuable trees referred to old trees recorded by the Leisure and Cultural Services Department. Besides, the number of important trees affected by the development was small. Important

25 trees referred to trees recorded under the Forests and Countryside Ordinance (Cap. 96), the Protection of Endangered Species of Animals and Plants Ordinance (Cap. 586), the Rare and Precious Plants of Hong Kong, and China Plant Red Data Book, or trees with trunk diameter over 1 m. For this development, no tree with trunk diameter of over 1 m was being affected, but several dozens of the affected trees were important trees.

59. Mr Cecil WONG, Senior Transport Planner, Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Limited, gave the following consolidated reply in response to Members’ views and enquiries:

Development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan village  The main reason for arranging the main entrance of the development on Yau Yue Wan Village Road but not Po Lam Road North was that the latter was one of the trunk roads in Tseung Kwan O, on which no main entrance of housing estates should be provided according to the design guidelines of TD. Besides, if the main entrance was to be provided on Po Lam Road North, the vehicles had to take a long journey before entering the housing estate. Such arrangement was not desirable. On the contrary, if the main entrance was located on Yau Yue Wan Village Road, all vehicles could enter and leave the development via the junction of Yau Yue Wan Village Road, which could offer greater flexibility in managing the vehicular flow. According to the traffic impact assessment, the junction at Yau Yue Wan Village Road still had reserve capacity. Moreover, an access point on Po Lam Road North was provided mainly for use by the proposed social welfare facilities of the development, the purpose was to provide convenience for elderly and children in need when boarding and alighting vehicles;  The consultant had conducted on-site traffic counts in the vicinity of Yau Yue Wan Village. After adding up the traffic flow at Yau Yue Wan Village, the occupied quarters for FSD, the quarters for C&ED on Yau Yue Wan Village Road under construction, and the proposed development at the site to the west of Yau Yue Wan Village, the v/c ratio at the location in question would be about 0.5 to 0.7, which was not yet saturated. Given that the major cause of traffic congestion at the road section concerned was illegally parked vehicles, the widening of the road would only worsen the problem. Moreover, as the widening of Yau Yue Wan Village Road would affect the Pai Fong of Yau Yue Wan Village, the consultant considered that unless there was pressing need, it was not necessary to widen Yau Yue Wan Village Road;

Development to the east of Movie City  Regarding the traffic model for evaluating the traffic impact of the above development on Pak Shing Kok Road in the future, the consultant had considered

the Territorial Population and Employment Data Matrix data, and included in the traffic model the transport facilities being constructed or planned, which included CBL, TKO-LTT, Central Kowloon Route, Road T2, etc. Apart from road facilities, the planning data also included the various development phases and shopping malls of LOHAS Park, the private development at Shek Kok Road, and the data centre building, etc. The consultant anticipated that after the completion of CBL, TKO-LTT, Central Kowloon Route and Road T2, most of the vehicles would go to Kowloon via the above trunk roads and no longer drive through Wan Po Road;  The consultant had also taken into account the Fire and Ambulance Services Academy and Chinese medicine hospital in Pak Shing Kok. The result showed that the v/c ratio of Wan Po Road would be about 0.5 to 0.6, which was not yet saturated. The consultant anticipated that as some vehicles would be diverted to CBL, the traffic situation of most junctions linking with Wan Po Road would be improved;  The consultant had also included in the traffic model the dumpers currently going to and from the Fill Bank. In the past, the dumpers usually went to the urban area via the Tseung Kwan O Tunnel. With the completion of the above trunk roads, it was anticipated that the drivers would choose a faster road to go to the urban area;  Concerning the public transport service, the consultant had reserved two public transport lay-bys of 39 m each that were expected to allow two public buses and two minibuses to pull over at the same time. Although it was still the initial design stage, public transport service for direct connection with LOHAS Park MTR Station was anticipated to be provided, or special departures in the morning or evening would be provided for residents to travel to and from work after drawing on experience of other new public housing estates.

60. Mr CHAN Kai-wai said although SKDC had agreed with the proposal of CEDD for extending the operation period of the Fill Bank earlier, SKDC had no plan to allow the further extension of the operation period. Given that the Government had included the vehicular traffic flow of dumpers in the traffic impact assessment at this moment, he queried if the Government had already pre-determined internally a further extension of operation period of the Fill Bank. He expressed dissatisfaction over this. Secondly, the traffic impact assessment conducted by the consultant had assumed that all vehicles were small vehicles. But in fact, large vehicles like school buses and shuttle buses, etc., would also be entering and leaving the housing estate in the future. The vehicular traffic flow would be further affected. He had reservation over the statistics provided by the consultant. In addition, the consultant had just mentioned that it was not suitable to set the main entrance at Po Lam Road North because it was a trunk road, however, the main entrances of both Hong Sing Garden and Tsui

Lam Estate had been set at Po Lam Road North. He considered that the consultant was just giving a different reason to match with the development intention of the Government. He cast doubt on the professionalism of the consultant.

61. Ms Christine FONG said the consultant did not respond to her views on the retail facilities of the development to the east of Movie City. Besides, a total of three sites in LOHAS Park had already been reserved for building five schools. However, no new school was built in the past ten years; some schools were also worried about being closed. She suggested developing these reserved school sites in the form of “single site, multiple uses” and combining primary school with kindergarten, which she estimated would achieve greater efficiency. Moreover, if the kindergarten was provided on uphill area, it would be rather inconvenient in terms of transport. She was worried that, if Pak Shing Kok Station of MTR would not be built, the reliance on the loading/unloading bays, which could accommodate only two tour coaches and one small vehicle, would turn the location into a blackspot of illegal parking. The Government should also consider providing more car parking spaces and installing escalators and lifts to provide convenience to residents of the development to the east of Movie City. Furthermore, as not all residents would have a demand for kindergarten, and children aged six or above would have to attend class in the vicinity of LOHAS Park MTR Station, she considered that the Government should provide sufficient transport connection for the uphill area, e.g. minibus service, etc. She said public housing had increased the burden of the whole community, and asked if the Government would be responsible for providing the hardware on transport.

62. Mr CHEUNG Mei-hung said the consultant was trying to justify itself by saying that the traffic at Wan Po Road would be improved after completion of CBL. Instead of providing data of estimated vehicular flow on Wan Po Road in the presentation slides, the consultant had just given a simple response at the meeting. He hoped that the consultant could provide supplementary information on the data of vehicular flow on Wan Po Road after completion of CBL and TKO-LTT, and would provide SKDC with the detailed overall figures after it had calculated the number of dumpers traveling to and from the Fill Bank. He also said, after getting the detailed data, the consultant should consider whether or not to adopt the suggestions of Members, for example, widening Pak Shing Kok Road or connecting Pak Shing Kok with new roads other than Wan Po Road with a view to alleviating the traffic problem of Wan Po Road. Besides, he asked HD and CEDD whether they had considered installing lifts or escalators to connect Pak Shing Kok with other places. Lastly, the Government said earlier that the plot ratio of the development to the east of Movie City was 6 to 6.5 with about 2,900 flats. However, the number of flats had increased to about 3,150 now. He asked the Government to provide the justification(s) for such increase. He also pointed out that the identified site of the development was located at the mid-level of Pak

Shing Kok. The construction of 45-storey buildings there would have great impact on the landscape, air ventilation, and environment. He requested the consultant to give an explanation on this.

63. Mr Francis CHAU said the district needed different housing mix, including subsidised public housing, subsidised sale housing and private housing, etc. Pak Shing Kok was originally planned for low-density residential development. However, to tally with the change in the overall planning of the Government, SKDC agreed to the development of the Fire and Ambulance Services Academy and the associated quarters in Pak Shing Kok. The road planning in Pak Shing Kok was made according to the relatively lower population planned at that time. Moreover, the Government had originally planned the D6 Road to link up Pak Shing Kok with the junction of Hang Hau Road near Tin Ha Wan Village. However, as the planned population at Pak Shing Kok was small, the plan was cancelled 20 years ago. He considered that the Government should properly handle the connectivity of roads now because even though the traffic towards the urban area would be improved after the completion of CBL and Road T2, the details of the road network in the district had not been properly handled.

Public housing development to the south of Chiu Shun Road (development to the south of Chiu Shun Road)

64. Mr Francis CHAU said when the planning of Tseung Kwan O was made, Tseung Kwan O Village, Yau Yue Wan Village, Hang Hau Village, Tin Ha Wan Village and Fu Tau Chau Village were affected. Among them, Tin Ha Wan Village and Fu Tau Chau Village were villages that needed to be relocated because of development of landfill. Tseung Kwan O was surrounded by the above re-sited villages, with tall buildings in the inner area while retaining the rural character on the periphery. Such planning design was made on purpose. The development of public housing by the Government to the west of Yau Yue Wan and the south of Chiu Shun Road now reflected that it was only rashly building infill development on GB, which would destroy the original design of the community. He pointed out that in the Feasibility Study for Further Development of Tseung Kwan O, a stepped gradient approach of development in Tseung Kwan O South was finalised. The planning purpose was to develop Tseung Kwan O into a liveable place. Although many people were in need of purchasing their own homes, he disagreed with the Government’s building of infill development because it would lead to conflict between the existing residents and those moving in to Tseung Kwan O. He continued that the density of houses in Fat Tau Chau Village next to Chiu Shun Road was already very high. After the completion of the development to the south of Chiu Shun Road, no more space would be available for expanding Fat Tau Chau Village. Members of the local community had suggested building a village office at the Government, Institution or

Community site of the above location, yet the suggestion was rejected by the Government on the ground that the site was a GB. The Government’s rezoning the same site and the nearby GBs for developing public housing now reflected that it had adopted double standards, which was not only unfair and not convincing but also caused dissatisfaction among villagers in the rural areas. Taking the suggestion made by SKDC to the Government on the building of at-grade pedestrian crossing facilities at the above location as an example, which was repeatedly rejected by TD for being not practicable, he said the Government had agreed to provide such facilities now because of the need to develop housing there. He said the development of the four sites in question fully reflected that the Government had double standards. He expressed disappointment and opposition to taking forward the four public housing developments by the Government this time.

65. Mr LAU Kai-hong suggested building a new road to connect with Chiu Shun Road at the roundabout opposite Tseung Kwan O Hospital. He also pointed out that there were only three houses in Fu Tau Chau Village originally, and only nine more houses had been built after twenty years. In addition, since the proposed village office was located on a GB, the villagers had to raise funds on their own to conduct the consultancy study. As a result, the village office had yet to be materialised. While on the contrary, the Government only needed to take some very simple steps to develop public housing on GB, which had caused conflict between the city and the rural area indirectly. He continued that Fu Tau Chau Village, Tin Ha Wan Village and Yau Yue Wan Village were villages that had been demolished. The villagers had given up their fields, ancestral halls and graves for the development of Tseung Kwan O, but their wishes for the Government’s provision of escalators or other barrier-free facilities were not fulfilled. He hoped that the Government could take care of the interests of indigenous villagers.

66. Mr Raymond HO considered the environment near the Movie City very desolate, and that the development to the east of Movie City was the one with the least district networking support among the four developments. The scale of retail facilities of the development in question, which occupied about 2,600 m2, was the largest among the four developments. However, since its proposed number of flats and the future population would also be largest among the four developments, he considered the area of its existing planned retail facilities still not sufficient, and suggested that mini-supermarket and tea restaurants, etc., should be provided to meet the daily needs of residents. The remote location of the Movie City made it difficult for residents to go to places like Tseung Kwan O Town Centre or LOHAS Park, etc., on foot. As he considered that it would be impossible to provide additional facilities after the planning of the development was completed, he suggested the Government to provide facilities like loading/unloading bays and restaurant sewerage system, etc., in advance during the detailed design stage to facilitate further improvement of the living standard of

30 residents in the future.

67. Mr CHEUNG Mei-hung said SKDC had all along been opposing to the development to the east of Movie City. PlanD had a long time ago planned to build at Shek Kok Road a northern bridge across Shek Kok Road and Wan Po Road. If the Government insisted on taking forward the development in question, he suggested installing escalator for connecting Shek Kok Road at a position to the south of the development to enable residents to use the connecting footbridge to go to LOHAS Park MTR Station in the future. He considered that connecting facilities must be provided first so that the traffic load of the roads would not be increased. Besides, escalators had been installed in On Tat Estate for connecting Sau Mau Ping Estate at present; while escalators had also been installed at Sau Mau Ping Estate to link up with Hui Lai Court, which could access Kwun Tong Town Centre directly. He believed that the escalators for connecting the development to the east of Movie City and LOHAS Park would be shorter and more direct than those linking up On Tat Estate and Kwun Tong. He considered that if the departments concerned would like to take forward infill development, it was necessary for them to put forward proposals for ancillary facilities in respect of daily necessities at the same time for consideration by SKDC.

68. Mr Peter LAU said the development to the south of Chiu Shun Road would give rise to hectic traffic flow on the roads in the neighbourhood. Residents heading for TKO-LTT or CBL would need to drive through the roundabout at Clear Water Bay Road, Hang Hau Road and Chiu Shun Road. Since the vehicular entrance of the development in question could not be provided at Tin Ha Wan or Tin Chau Road, it had to be set at Chiu Shun Road. With the proposed 600 flats and design population of some 1,600 persons, the pedestrian flow of the development would be huge. He was concerned that the provision of pedestrian crossing facilities would affect the traffic of Chiu Shun Road, and would like to know more about the details of the traffic flow and crossing facilities.

69. The Chairman enquired whether there would be any private development project near the Clear Water Bay Film Studio on Ying Yip Road or the development to the east of Movie City; whether the Government had taken into account the relevant data of such private development project(s) when conducting the planning study; and whether the Government would make improvement to the roads and community facilities in response to the development.

70. Mr CHAN Kai-wai said SKDC had unanimously opposed the proposal on infill development at the SKDC meeting held on 5 September 2017. It had also expressed opposition to the Approved Tseung Kwan O Outline Zoning Plan (S/TKO/25) in a letter to TPB (Representation No. of SKDC:R64). He would like to move an extempore motion, the

31 wording of which was: “Strongly object to construction of new public housing estates to the northwest of Ying Yip Road/west of Yau Yue Wan Village/east of Hong Kong Movie City/south of Chiu Shun Road in view of the Government’s failure in providing sufficient ancillary facilities and transport facilities, implementation of infill development, misappropriation of greenfield and delay in providing a huge number of recreational, leisure and welfare facilities in the District and suggest according priority to the more cost-effective development of Area 137 ”. Mr Francis CHAU seconded the extempore motion.

71. There being no objection, the Chairman declared that the extempore motion would be included in the agenda.

72. The Chairman said SKDC would not oppose the identification of land for building housing by the Government, but it considered that problems related to district facilities and transport must be resolved first before taking forward the developments. He suggested HD, TD, PlanD and SWD to consider the views put forward by Members so as to solve the problems related to the daily living of residents that might occur. Land formation had been carried out at the housing site to the south of Chiu Shun Road. HD planned to commence the works in 2020, and expected that the works would be completed in 2024. Besides, CEDD planned to gazette the proposed roads and sewerage works at the three remaining sites by June 2019 at the earliest in accordance with the Roads (Works, Use and Compensation) Ordinance and the Water Pollution Control (Sewerage) Regulation, and to conduct relevant public consultation and seek funding approval from the Legislative Council thereafter. Members could still put forward their views on the relevant public housing development after the gazettal and during the consultation period. He pointed out that although SKDC could not reach a consensus on the proposals for the four sites at the meeting today, he still hoped that the departments concerned could follow up on the views of Members with concerted efforts.

73. There being no objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the extempore motion moved by Mr CHAN Kai-wai was endorsed. SKDC would convey the request to the CE’s Office, THB and the Development Bureau in writing.

74. Ms Christine FONG hoped to vote on the extempore motion and have it kept on record.

75. The Chairman as no Member had opposed the inclusion of the extempore motion in the agenda earlier and no Member had objected to the extempore motion now, he declared that the extempore motion was endorsed unanimously. There was no need to vote on it.

76. Ms Vera CHOI, Chief Architect 7, HD, gave the following consolidated reply in

32 response to Members’ views:  When developing public housing, HD would give full consideration to the needs for retail facilities, including the scale of such facilities, categories of shops, and whether restaurants and supermarket, etc., would be needed. Consultant would be engaged to carry out detailed studies when necessary;  The area of retail facilities of the development to the east of Movie City was only a preliminary proposal. The departments concerned would continue to review and refine the proposal; and  In response to the keen housing demand, the plot ratio of public housing in new town could be increased to 6.5 at present. Since that HD would fully utilise the plot ratio of 6.5 under the principle of increasing housing supply, and for providing more community facilities to cater for the demands of the district, the overall plot ratio would exceed the upper limit of the outline zoning plan. In such case, the Government might need to submit planning application to TPB, and the submission of technical assessment during the application process might be necessary to prove that even though the plot ratio was increased, it would not bring about any significant impact on the community. The works could only commence after approval from TPB was obtained.

77. Mr Daniel MA, Engineer/Pedestrian Improvements, TD, said the views of Members were noted. Advice on transport-related issues would be offered to CEDD and HD.

78. Ms Donna TAM, District Planning Officer/Sai Kung & Islands, PlanD, thanked Members for their views on the planning of Tseung Kwan O, and reflecting the demands and preferences of local residents. The identified sites of the four developments had been rezoned for Residential (Group A) land use on the Tseung Kwan O Outline Zoning Plan, and the respective plot ratios and height limit of buildings were also specified on the outline zoning plan. Subsequent to the implementation of new initiatives on public housing development in new towns by the Government to optimise the utilisation of land resources, the domestic plot ratio could be relaxed to 6.5. If the Government wanted to increase the development intensity to the upper limit of 6.5, it must submit an application on relaxation of plot ratio, together with the relevant technical assessment and proposal to TPB for consideration. After receiving the application, TPB would display it to the public so that the stakeholders could offer their views. She understood that Members suggested giving priority to the development of Area 137, Tseung Kwan O. She reiterated that the Government was studying the planning of Area 137, Tseung Kwan O, and would consult SKDC after solving the ancillary transport facilities and technical problems. PlanD would make land development planning for increasing housing land supply in the short, medium and long-term.

79. Ms Heidi LAM, Assistant District Social Welfare Officer (WTS/SK)3, said SWD had made endeavour efforts on providing more needed social welfare facilities in new development areas. Since December last year, SWD had planned the necessary daytime neighbourhood elderly centre and residential care home for the elderly in the respective new development areas according to the population in need of elderly service. Besides, SWD would purchase private properties for use as social welfare facilities with $20 billion. It would also increase the social welfare facilities in Sai Kung district as far as practicable.

80. Mr David CHIU, District Officer (Sai Kung), SKDO, believed that the representatives of government departments and consultant present had noted the views of Members, and would make further review and refinement where necessary and appropriate. If the departments concerned would like to further consult Members and relevant stakeholders, SKDO would be pleased to provide the needed assistance; and would also fully reflect the local sentiment and aspirations of the district upon request by departments. SKDO would also keep SKDC and the relevant stakeholders informed of any upcoming public consultation by TPB or any other forms of local consultation by departments concerned on the housing development plans.

81. The Chairman hoped that CEDD, HD and the consultant could consider the suggestions on traffic problems in the district made by Members, which could be further discussed at TTC and HEHC under SKDC when necessary. He hoped that the departments could contact the Secretariat as soon as possible if there was any new progress in the developments.

82. Mr CHENG Mei-hung thanked the Chairman for the fair, just and equitable arrangement. He said several Members had expanded incessantly some records of little significance earlier. For the issue under discussion today which involved over 400,000 residents in Tseung Kwan O, individual Members, however, were absent from the meeting. The voting record would be able to effectively indicate the intention and stance of Members and SKDC. He requested the Chairman to put the extempore motion moved by Mr CHAN Kai-wai to vote again.

83. The Chairman said the Secretariat would keep a detailed record of Members who had attended or left the meeting today, and there was no need to vote again.

84. Ms Christine FONG said the extempore motion could be included in the agenda only if more than half of the Members present agreed with it. She said the casting of affirmative, negative or abstention vote by Members had different meanings. She hoped that the Chairman could record the intention of Members present today with computer, or asked the Secretary to read out the names of Members present who supported including the extempore motion in the

34 agenda.

85. The Chairman said no voting would be conducted. The Secretary could be asked to read out the names of Members present when necessary.

86. Mr LAI Ming-chak asked the Chairman if such request could be made each time.

87. Mr CHAN Kai-wai said when the pigeon problem was discussed at the meeting of HEHC held earlier, the request for MTRCL to install bird spikes to prevent the congregation of pigeons was endorsed unanimously. However, a Member who was present at the meeting and agreed with the above request on that day had distributed publicity leaflets after the meeting to condemn Mr LING Man-hoi for suggesting the installation of bird spikes, which had hurt the pigeons. Therefore, he hoped that the names of Members who supported endorsing the extempore motion today would be recorded to avoid dispute.

88. The Chairman thanked the representatives of different departments for attending the meeting, and declared the closure of meeting. The next full council meeting was scheduled for Tuesday, 2 July 2019 at 9:30 a.m.

89. The meeting adjourned at 1:15 p.m.

Sai Kung District Council Secretariat June 2019