A Conversation over Saucers

Terence McKenna

Terence McKenna has spent Question: the last twenty years in the In the two books that you have explain written you mention UFO influences. study of the ontological foun - dust what you think a UFO is? Would you dations of and the ethnopharmacology Terence McKenna: In my of spiritual brother's and my first book, The Invisible transformation. He graduated reference is scant indeed, Landscape, the UFO from touched on only once. I the University of Cali- thought the book was deliberately suppressed it because I fornia at Berkeley already lit up like a Christmas with a dis- ticular ornament tree with bizarre ideas. I saved that par- major in ecology, re- for its own treatment later, source Seems in the talking book True source conservation, and t0 me that with the tryptamine hallucinogens Hallucinations. It shamanism . After graduation, in general and with lar we actually experience a state of in particu- he traveled extensively in the mind that is very similar to the state of Asian and New accompany the UFO contact . mind reported to World tropics, Shamanic states of mind and UFO contact becoming specialized in the mapped onto each other. At active can, somehow, be shamanism and levels, psilocybin induces visionary ethnomedicine craft, alien creatures, and alien ideation of space- of the . With his information. There is a general, futuristic, brother Dennis, quality to the psilocybin saucerian kind of he is the experience that seems to originate from author of The Invisible Land- ern myth of the UFO . the same place as the mod- scape and Psilocybin; The My brother and I bfagic Mushroom discovered during our expedition to the Growers tion of the tryptamines Amazon in 1971 that accumula- Guide. A talking book of his in one's system seems to confer the Amazon adventures, True world at once, as though ability to inhabit more than one another world is superimposed over Hallucinations, has also been a hyperdimensional world reality. This is a super-reality, produced. In Hawaii, where information is accessible he our Amazonian in magical ways. In the wake Of foundin secretary-is the discoveries, I surveyed the literature of Botanical Dimensions, and OCCUR S mystical experience, UFO experi- s tax- ystems such as . Eventually, exempt, nonprofit research thought I saw that these different h were all talking about the ------°^ . ...ng bodies of otanical garden and germ . For modern people, the experience plasma repository devoted gaining ascendency is called "contact that is to with the UFO, " but it is not reducible the collection and propagation planations suggested by UFO experts and to any of the ex- of plants of enthusiasts . It is not, strictly ethnopharmaco- from a spacefaring race that speaking, a contact logical interest. In , has come from the stars, nor is it mass he divides There is, in fact, something hysteria or delusion. his time between very odd going on, something that writing, lecturing, and epistemological notions is as challenging to modern as a U .S . Air Force jet transport landing managing Lu.x Natura Inc., a uncontacted in a nearby field would be to publishing villagers in New Guinea. A very large company of which UFOs, percentage of people claim to have he is the president and yet science cannot explain them. It seen seems as though reality is haunted by founder . vortex that renders science helpless. The a spinning a spinning vortex is the UFO, and it comes mass scale, haunting history like a ghost . and goes on I'm speaking more specifically of the post-World War I1 the accompanying myth spinning silver disc in the sky and of the pointed-eared, cat-eyed aliens. ations, but it's clearly This myth has numerous vari- an idea complex emerging in the collective what is it? Is it prophecy? Is it psyche. The question is, a vision of the future; what phase of UFO speculation recognizes is it? The post-modern that the UFO is no mere light seen in somehow mixed up with human the sky but that it is psychology. Researchers have determined have seen UFOs were in many cases that people who thinking about something very odd and ately prior to the sighting. The UFO unusual immedi- seemed to act as a kind of ideological purpose. Jacques Vallee was the catalyst for some first person to suggest what I would call mostat theory" of UFOs, in a book the "cultural ther- called The Invisible College. He saucer is an object from the collective proposed that the flying unconscious of the human race that to break the control of any set of appears in order ideas that is gaining dominance in their at the expense of ethics . II is a explanatory power confounding that enters history again history builds to a certain kind of boil . and again whenever Colin Wilson suggests a similar idea in his novel The of Christ Mind Parasites, stating that the career was an earlier confounding in which Roman seated by a science and Roman militarism were un- peculiar religion that no educated Roman were well could take seriously. Educated Romans versed in democratian atomism, Epicureanism, telling stories and Sophism; yet their servants were about a rabbi who had risen from the dead and opened a gate that had been closed

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since creation, permitting the of man to Pan bursting through from the underworld. be reunited with God . Though these stories The equivalent panic in our society is the made no sense to the Roman authorities, their emergence of the UFO as an autonomous psy- adherents quickly overwhelmed the Empire. chic entity that has slipped from the control Today, science has replaced Roman imperial of the ego and approaches laden with the aspirations as the dominant mythos of con- "otherness" of the unconscious . As one trol and thought ; it offers neat and tidy ex- looks into it, one beholds oneself, one's planations of the world . The Folk persist in world-information field, all deployed in a telling stories of lights in the sky, strange be- strange, distant, almost trans-humanly cool ings, and bizarre encounters that cannot quite way, which links it to the myth of the extra- be laid to rest . terrestrial . The extraterrestrial is the human My personal encounter with a UFO has led oversoul in its general and particular expres- me to view UFOs as real, whatever real means. sion on the planet. Though this doesn't rule They are phenomenologically real. In fact, out the possibility that the mushroom also my contention is that psilocybin reveals an places one in contact with extraterrestrials on event at the end of history of such magnitude planets circling other suns somewhere in the that it casts miniature reflections of itself galaxy, it probably means that this communi- back into time. These are the apocalyptic con- cation is mediated through the oversoul. The crescences that haunt the historical continu- oversoul is some kind of field that is gener- um, igniting religions and various hysterias, ated by human beings but that is not under and seeping ideas into highly tuned nervous the control of any institution, any govern- systems. ment, nor any religion . It is actually the most It is as said, "Time is the moving intelligent lifeform on the planet, and it regu- image of eternity." For the Eschaton, posi- lates human through the release of tioned in eternity, all things are somehow co- ideas out of eternity and into the continuum existent in time or outside of time. All events of history. have already happened. Shamanism is a for- The UFO is an idea intended to confound mal technique for viewing this hyperdimen- science because science has begun to threaten sional object outside of time in a three- the existence of the human as well as dimensional way, by transecting it many, the ecosystem of the planet . At this point, a many times until an entire picture of it shock is necessary for the culture, a shock emerges. The mushroom evokes a profound equivalent to the shock of the Resurrection on planetary that shows one that Roman imperialism . The myths that are history is an artifact that has appeared in the building now are like the messianic myths that last ten to Fifteen thousand years and spread preceded the appearance of Christ. They are across the planet very quickly. But mind in myths of intervention by a hyperintelligent human beings precedes the history of technol- entity that comes from the stars to reveal the ogy and goes back into the darkness. right way to live. The UFO would wreck sci- One of the things we were saying in The In- ence by a series of demonstrations designed to visible Landscape is that there are avenues of convince the majority of humanity that the understanding in the human body that have purpose of history is nothing less than total not been followed because of epistemological immersion in the teachings of the UFO. Once bias-for instance, using voice to effect mo- this message is slammed home via worldwide lecular change in one's own nervous system. TV broadcasts, the UFO might simply disap- This sounds on one level preposterous but, on pear. Following in the wake of such a depar- the other hand, it is simply a formalized way ture would be a hysteria of abandonment sim- of noting the fact that sound is energy, that ilar to the hysteria of abandonment that energy can be transduced in a number of swept the Christian communities after the ways, and that when you direct it toward your Resurrection. The development of science body you obviously do make changes . Chant- would cease. The UFO-oriented religion would ing and singing are worldwide shamanic prac- embody an archetype of enormous power, tices. The singers are navigating through a able to hold sway in the same way that Chris- space with which we have lost touch as a so- tianity halted the development of science for a ciety. thousand years. When the shaman's song fails, his world erupts into a situation of weakened psychic Scientists are not going to like your opinion. constitution that contains an element of They should be forewarned. 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Earth is a place where language packets, or the thoughts of god. The world is has made of language. Language is replicating it- literally become alive. self in DNA, which, at the evolutionary apex, is creating societies of civilized beings that possess and machines that use lan- guages . is a place where language has literally become alive. Language has infested matter; it is replicating and defining and building itself. And it since at least the burning is in us. My voice of Eleusis. We've speaking is a monkey's mouth accomplished marvelous things making little with science mouth noises that are carrying and technology while other agreed-upon around meaning, and it is meaning the world have kept the flame that matters. burning. The Without the meaning, one has discs that haunt the skies of only little earth indicate mouth noises. Meaning is a crude that the unconscious cannot be form of te- kept waiting lepathy-as you listen to my forever. Soon we must discover that voice my the imag- thoughts become your thoughts, and ination really is the ground of we com- being, and it pare them. This is communication, will be as if man had discovered tire under- for the standing. Reality is a domain of codes second time. The imagination is the and golden that is why the UFO problem is like a gram- pathway to a new cultural hyperspace. matical problem-like a dangling participle in What then are tire to do? the fourth-dimensional language that makes reality. I think that the task of history is what I call It eludes simple approaches because it is somehow turning man inside out . The body is to be in- embedded in the machinery of epistemic teriorized and the soul exteriorized as a living knowing itself. golden disc. So we won't be able to find it if tire go into Yeats put it this way: space? O sages standing in God's holy fire No, it is within As in the gold mosaic of a wall, us; it is the soul of us. We Come from the holy tire, peme in a gyre, won't be able to find it until we somehow And be the singing-masters of my soul. come to terms with the hidden part, the col- Consume my heart away; sick with desire lective unconscious, the Overmind. We need And fastened to a dying animal to face the fact It knows that there is a level of hierar- not what it is, and gather me chical control being Into the artifice of eternity. exerted on the human species as a whole and that the The phrase, destiny of man "the artifice of eternity," is not in the hands of governments evokes a and cor- strangely mechanistic yet spiritualis- porations . It is in the hands of a tic future into weirdly dem- which the archetype of the UFO ocratic, amoeboid, hyperintelligent is calling people super-or- . Over the course of ten thou- ganism that is called Everybody . sand years, As we come from the earliest machines to the to terms with this, as we take our present, place em- humanity is becoming a transplane- bedded in the body of Everybody, tary creature. It informa- is, as H. G. Wells said of his- tion flows more freely and the reality tory, "a race of this between education and catas- informational creature is seen more trophe." clearly. Increasingly destructive chemical The fact is that we are in a symbiotic and atomic processes relation- are being released, forc- ship with an made of information, ing the species to realize that its aspirations and this is what the classic shamanic are alien to the plant ecology of the planet and that hallucinogens reinforce very strongly. it and the planet must part. The transforma- It's in the psychedelic dimension that tion of humanity into one a spacefaring, perhaps finally can key into the voice of the organism timefaring, race is, on a biological scale, the and undertake a dialogue . Then the organism great goal of history. The coming of agricul- explains that things are not as you took them ture and urbanization are minor compared to to be at all, and that there is in fact layer what is going to happen upon to this species, to layer of interlocking meaning and very little these monkeys, as they leave the planet with else. The imagination is the true ground of be- their computers and their dreams. ing. There is a dimension parallel to time, The psychedelic experience is so important outside of time, that is accessible only to the because information is loose on planet three. degree that one can decondition oneself from Something unusual is going on . The world is the history-bound cognitive systems that have not made of quarks, electromagnetic wave carried one to that point. This is why it's al- 26 R e V I S I O N VOL . 11 No. 3

ways been said that the psychedelic experience shell, leave all earth-bound conceptions of acts as a sociological catalyst . ourselves behind, and push off into the pure What are shamans? How does the shaman imagination. bring the message to the ? Scarey. The tribe is a system set up to receive the Scarey. Gnostic ; perhaps, message. Our society has a different way of as someone doing it: power elites in said, "It sounds like megalomania to me, political control pass Martha. " down state-approved But we must ask how mad would that are the then applied. twentieth century have sounded recited to anyone in the nineteenth or the fifteenth? The state as shaman? What it comes down to is trying to have faith that human beings are capable of doing The state as shaman, good the state as mediator because, whatever human beings are, human of God's holy will, rather than a personal re- beings are taking control of the definition of lationship-a Protestant approach, if you being human. Through genetic engineering, will, to the uFO Overmind. The represents an through drug design, through probing instance of of the crisis between the individual and psychedelic dimension, through mind/ma- the Overmind, where the Overmind breaks chine interphasing, we are going to become a through the oppressive screen thrown around mirror of our deepest aspirations . The it and comes ques- to meet the individual. It is like tion then becomes, "What are our deepest an interview with an angel-or a demon . It is aspirations? What will the future be?" Will laden with intense psychological resonances it be some kind of Mephistophelian night- for the person experiencing it ; it is a pro- mare, the Nietzschean superman come back foundly numinous experience . to haunt us in a way that could make the Every moment of recognizable creation, Third Reich look like a picnic? Or will we then, falls into the category of seepage from choose the element of care and control, the the Overmind, where you get a synthesis of aesthetic element, the wish to escape into a information that becomes your creative that is, in fact, art? This is what is thought, your discovery of the Other? possible-that we could become inhabitants of our own imaginations. With the technol- My theory of time mathematically for- ogy for building large habitats in space, it is malizes the notion that novelty is the standing possible to imagine the complete social gal- wave of eternity. Novelty seeps into time at a axy of science fiction created in a sphere less variable rate that can actually be mathemati- than twelve light-hours in diameter with the cally described using the transforms inherent sun at the center. We could have fifty or six- in the (see Re Vision, Summer 1987). ty thousand independent habitats pursuing The uFos seem to come from eternity. They social experiments of every sort, spatially in- don't come from the stars unless they can dependent, but informationally linked, in move instantly to and from the stars . The very long-term slow orbits from the near sun uFos come from another dimension ; one to the outer planets . could almost say they come from beyond Using current technology, we could, right death. They come from a dimension some- now, produce the Hawaiian environment at how totally different from our own but one distances up to fourteen light-hours away that is tied up with the human psyche in a way from the sun, which is several light-hours that is puzzling, alarming, and reassuring- farther out than Pluto . That means the en- and shamanic. It is difficult to know to what tire solar system has become habitable real degree nonparticipants in twentieth-century estate, but only if we can transform the hu- civilization perceive this. What is the expert- man imagination to realize that getting high ence of people who take mushrooms but have is not a metaphor; getting high is what the nothing to do with twentieth-century society? whole human enterprise is about . It's true Have they always accepted, since Paleolithic that the earth is the cradle of mankind, but times, the presence of a super-futuristic di- one cannot remain in the cradle forever. The mension? Perhaps in any century, people universe beckons. It has been only twenty- have had this commerce with the end of time, five thousand years since our shamanic an- with the far future, with the places where, as cestors began to munch the mushrooms and said, "man becomes dirigible." glimpse the vision of human beings radiating We have bootstrapped ourselves to the point out through the galaxy as a perfected, super- that we can leave the planet, leave the monkey intelligent force for life. Post-industrial his-

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Unfortunately for research into such phe- experience? The early approach with psyche- nomena, psilocybin was made illegal as an delics was the Baconian approach and was afterthought in a Luddite panic that saw the correct one. This is the notion that intel- most research psychedelics made illegal. It ligent, thoughtful people should take never had psy- any independent hearing or exami- chedelics and try and understand what's nation-it go- was a hallucinogenic agent, there- ing on. Not groups of prisoners, not gradu- fore illegal. This has deprived it of the atten- ate students, but mature, intelligent people tion it deserves as a toot for throwing light need to share their experiences . It's too early on the psyche and for catapulting the imagi- for a science . What we need now are the nation into futuristic spaces. diaries of explorers. We need many diaries of many explorers so we How do you propose to re-educate people can begin to get a concerning these substances? feeling for the territory. It is no coincidence that a rebirth of psychedelic use is occurring What's always been lacking in psychedelic as we acquire the technological capability to research is an examination of the content of leave the planet. The mushroom visions and the experience, so we need to give these com- the transformation of the human image pre- pounds to very intelligent people who are cipitated by space exploration are spun to- willing to work with them in situations other gether, and nothing less is happening than than a clinical setting. the emergence of a new human order. A tele- pathic, humane, Universalist We must instead answer the question: kind of human How does this experience change people's culture is emerging that will make everything lives when they are in an open, nonstressed that preceded it appear like the Stone Age. environment? In the Amazon, which is not Does the Overmind, oversoul, exactly a nonstressed environment, we found whatever, assimilate the personal that as we travelled up jungle rivers and con- knowledge that's gained within one lifetime? tacted small villages where plant hallucino- gens were known and used, reality was trans- When formed . Reality is truly made of language consciousness is finally understood, it will mean that the and of linguistic structures that you carry, absence of conscious- ness will be understood unbeknownst to yourself, in your mind, and . The study of con- which, under the influence of psilocybin sciousness leads, inevitably, to the study of be- death. gin to dissolve and allow you to perceive Death is both a historical and individ- be- ual yond the speakable. The contours of the un- phenomenon about which we, as mon- keys, have great speakable begin to emerge into your percep- anxiety. But what the psy- chedelic experience tion and though you can't say much about seems to be pointing out is that, the unspeakable, it has power to color every- actually, the reductionist view of death has missed thing you do. You live with it; it is the invok- the point and that there is something more. ing of the Other. The Other can become the Death isn't simple extinc- tion. The universe Self, and many forms of estrangement can does not build up such complex forms as ourselves be healed . This is why the term alien has without conserv- these many connotations. ing them in some astonishing and surprising way that relates to the that we What's the next step? have from the psychedelic experience. The UFO comes from this murky region, beyond The next step is to confirm some of what the end of history, beyond the end of life. It I've said in order to form a consensus among is both supra-historical and supra-organic. It groups of researchers and to then try and fig- is uncanny, alien; it raises the hair on the ure out a strategy-chemical, clinical, or back of one's neck. It is both the apotheosis otherwise . and the antithesis of the monkey's journey How would you set up such a research toward mind. It is like the mind revealing it- program? self. This is what all religion is about: shock waves given off by an event at the end of his- It is important to give these compounds to tory. We are now very close to that event, volunteers but also to give them to the re- and psilocybin can help us to understand it searchers who are actually going to grapple because psilocybin conveys one into the with the problem. So much scientific talk or- place where it is happening constantly. The bits around the psychedelic experience, but Aeon, eternity, and the millennium are ac- how many scientists have had a psychedelic complished facts, not an anticipation . Hence

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