Minutes of Proceedings

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PROOF

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

No. 21

TUESDAY 24 SEPTEMBER 2019

Contents

1 Meeting of the House ...... 444 2 Hunter Business Awards (Formal Business) ...... 444 3 Legislation Review Committee––Report ...... 444 4 Selection of Bills Committee––Report ...... 444 5 Papers––Presented to Parliament out of session ...... 445 6 Statutory Rules and Instruments tabled by the Clerk ...... 445 7 Petitions ...... 446 8 Notices of motions ...... 446 9 Answer to a supplementary question without notice ...... 446 10 Conduct of business––Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019 ...... 446 11 Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019 ...... 447 12 Questions ...... 449 13 Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019 ...... 449 14 Petitions––Government's Responses ...... 456 15 Adjournment ...... 457 16 Attendance ...... 457

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1 MEETING OF THE HOUSE

The House met at 2.30 pm according to adjournment. In the absence of the President the Acting President took the Chair.

According to standing order, the Acting President nominated Mr Blair to read the prayers.

Mr Blair read the prayers.

Mr Blair acknowledged the Gadigal clan of the Eora nation and its elders and thanked them for their custodianship of this land.

2 HUNTER BUSINESS AWARDS (Formal Business)

Mr Martin moved, according to notice:

1. That this House notes that:

(a) on 23 August 2019, the Hunter Business Chamber held the 2019 Hunter Business Awards Presentation at the Newcastle Exhibition and Convention Centre, and

(b) winners of awards included: (i) Business Leader of the Year: Peter Cock, Newcastle Airport and Morven Cameron, Lake Macquarie City Council, (ii) President’s Award: Newcastle Airport, (iii) Kristen Keegan Young Business Executive (18-30): Martin Corrigan, PWCS, (iv) Outstanding Young Entrepreneur (18-30): Jade Chislett, Just Like You Dolls, (v) Contribution to the Region: Out of the Square Media, (vi) Outstanding Employer of Choice: Westpac Rescue Helicopter Service, (vii) Excellence in Micro Business: Tighes Hill Cellars, (viii) Excellence in Small Business: Funda, (ix) Excellence in Business: ATUNE Health Centres, (x) Excellence in Social Enterprise: ProCare, (xi) Highly Commended (Social Enterprise): Allambi Care, (xii) Excellence in Innovation: Ampcontrol, (xiii) Excellence in Export: Whiteley Corporation, (xiv) Excellence in Sustainability: Downer EDI Works, (xv) Start Up Superstar: Hunter Allied Care, (xvi) Local Chamber of Commerce: Tomaree Business Chamber, (xvii) Excellence in Retail & Hospitality: Crowne Plaza Hunter Valley, (xviii) Love Water, Love Business: Morisset Hospital.

2. That this House acknowledges the outstanding work of the Hunter Business Chamber and congratulates all winners of the 2019 Hunter Business Awards.

Question put and passed.

3 LEGISLATION REVIEW COMMITTEE––REPORT

Mr Shoebridge tabled a report of the Legislation Review Committee entitled “Legislation Review Digest No. 5/57”, dated 24 September 2019.

Ordered: That the report be printed.

4 SELECTION OF BILLS COMMITTEE––REPORT

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The Chair tabled Report No. 24 of the Selection of Bills Committee, dated 24 September 2019.

Ordered: That the report be printed.

Mrs Maclaren-Jones moved, according to paragraph 4 (1) of the resolution establishing the Selection of Bills Committee:

1. That:

(a) the provisions of the Right to Farm Bill 2019 be referred to the Portfolio Committee No. 4 - Industry for inquiry and report,

(b) the bill be referred to the committee upon receipt of the message on the bill from the Legislative Assembly,

(d) on the report being tabled, a motion may be moved immediately for the first reading and printing of the bill and that the bill proceed through all remaining stages according to standing and sessional orders.

2. That the following bills not be referred to a standing committee for inquiry and report, this day:

(a) Road Transport Amendment (Miscellaneous) Bill 2019, and

(b) Non-profit Bodies (Freedom to Advocate) Bill 2019.

Question put and passed.

5 PAPERS––PRESENTED TO PARLIAMENT OUT OF SESSION

The Clerk announced receipt of the following reports presented since the last sitting of the House:

(1) Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002—Report of New South Wales Crime Commission entitled "Annual Report of the New South Wales Crime Commission 1 July 2018 – 30 June 2019", dated 26 August 2019.

(2) Surveillance Devices Act 2007—Report of Attorney General according to section 45 of the Surveillance Devices Act 2007 for the period ended 30 June 2019.

6 STATUTORY RULES AND INSTRUMENTS TABLED BY THE CLERK

The Clerk tabled the following statutory rules and instruments, published on the NSW Legislation website or in the Government Gazette to Friday 20 September 2019:

(1) Liquor Act 2007—Liquor Amendment (Miscellaneous) Regulation (No 2) 2019 (LW 20/09/2019)

(2) Natural Resources Access Regulator Act 2017—Natural Resources Access Regulator Amendment Regulation 2019 (LW 20/09/2019)

(3) Protection of the Environment Operations Act 1997—Protection of the Environment Operations (Waste) Amendment Regulation 2019 (LW 20/09/2019)

(4) Road Transport Act 2013—Road Amendment (Stationary Emergency Vehicles) Rule 2019 (LW 20/09/2019)

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Distinguished Visitors

The Acting President welcomed into the President's Gallery members of the Tasmanian Legislative Council's Select Committee on the Production of Documents, including The Honourable Ruth Forrest MLC, Chair, the Honourable Jane Howlett MLC, Deputy Chair, the Honourable Meg Webb MLC, the Honourable Ivan Dean MLC, the Honourable Josh Willie MLC, Mr Stuart Wright, Usher of the Black Rod and Ms Julie Thompson, Committee Secretary.

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7 PETITIONS

Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019

Revd Mr Nile presented a petition from 1,629 citizens of New South Wales stating that the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019 legalises abortion and facilitates late term abortion, that the Bill's provisions force medical practitioners who wish to exercise a conscientious objection to direct patients to another practitioner, that the Bill does not provide professional standards for medical practitioners performing the required duties, that the Bill provides no protections for women who may have been coerced into having an abortion, that there has been a failure to facilitate due process of debate, community consultation or a public inquiry and requesting that the House oppose the Bill in its current form.

Petition received.

Opposing the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019

Revd Mr Nile presented a petition from 558 citizens of New South Wales stating that the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019 legalises abortion and facilitates late term abortion, fails to protect medical practitioners with a conscientious objection, that the Bill does not provide professional standards for medical practitioners performing the required duties, that the Bill provides no protections for women who may have been coerced into having an abortion, that there has been a failure to facilitate a meaningful process of debate and requesting that the House oppose the Bill or take steps to repeal the Bill in the event that it passes.

Petition received.

8 NOTICES OF MOTIONS

9 ANSWER TO A SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE

The Acting President informed the House of the publication in today’s Hansard of a written answer to an additional supplementary question without notice lodged with the Clerk since the last sitting of the House.

10 CONDUCT OF BUSINESS––REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL 2019

Mr Harwin moved, according to sessional order: That standing and sessional orders be suspended to allow the moving of a motion forthwith relating to the conduct of business of the House this day.

Question put and passed.

Mr Harwin then moved: That proceedings on all of the remaining stages of the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019 take precedence over all other business, except Questions, on Tuesday 24 September

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2019, until concluded or adjourned.

Question put and passed.

11 REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL 2019

On the order of the day being read, the Acting President left the Chair and the House sat as a committee of the whole for the further consideration of this bill.

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The Temporary Chair of Committees (Mr Mallard) took the Chair.

The Chair of Committees made a statement relating to the order for the consideration of amendments to the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019

Mr Blair moved amendment no. 1 on sheet c2019-123—

No. 1 Data collection Page 7. Insert after line 11—

14 Medical practitioners to provide information about terminations (1) A medical practitioner who performs a termination must, within 28 days after performing the termination, give the Secretary of the Ministry of Health the information about the termination decided by the Secretary. (2) The information must be given in the way decided by the Secretary including, for example, by using a form approved by the Secretary for the purposes of subsection (1). (3) Information provided by a medical practitioner to the Secretary under this section must not include any particulars which would allow a person on whom a termination was performed to be identified.

Debate ensued.

Mr Donnelly, by leave, moved amendments nos 1 to 3 on sheet c2019-144J in globo—

No. 1 Reporting statistical information about terminations Page 7. Insert after line 11—

14 Reporting statistical information about terminations (1) The Secretary of the Ministry of Health must, by 30 June in a year, publish a report on the Ministry’s website about terminations performed under this Act in the previous year about which the Secretary has been given information under section 54 of the Public Health Act 2010. (2) The report— (a) must include only statistical information, and (b) must not include any information that would allow a person on whom a termination was performed, or a registered health practitioner who performed or assisted in the performance of a termination, to be identified.

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No. 2 Information about terminations Page 9, proposed Schedule 2, line 1. Insert “and regulation” after “Acts”.

No. 3 Information about terminations Page 10, proposed Schedule 2. Insert after line 10—

2.3 Public Health Act 2010 No 127

[1] Schedule 1 Scheduled medical conditions Insert after the definition of still-birth— termination means a termination within the meaning of the Reproductive Health Care Reform Act 2019.

[2] Schedule 1, matter relating to Category 1 Insert “Termination” after “Sudden Infant Death Syndrome”.

2.4 Public Health Regulation 2012

[1] Clause 37 Notification of category 1 and 2 conditions Insert after clause 37(c)— (c1) in relation to termination—the particulars in Part 3 of Schedule 2,

[2] Schedule 2 Notification of certain deaths: particulars Insert after Part 2—

Part 3 Termination Date of birth of the person on whom the termination was performed Locality in which the person resides, for example, the local health district (within the meaning of the Health Services Act 1997) or postcode Clinical estimate of completed weeks of gestation when the pregnancy was terminated Number of previous terminations the person has had Locality of the place at which the termination was performed, for example, the local health district (within the meaning of the Health Services Act 1997) or postcode Nature of the place at which the termination was performed, for example, public or private hospital or private clinic Date of termination of the pregnancy Reasons for the termination of the pregnancy Category of medical practitioner who performed the termination, including, if the medical practitioner is a specialist medical practitioner, the specialty or other expertise of the medical practitioner Method of termination Whether or not the person experienced any medical complications after the termination or died Any other relevant maternal health characteristics of the person

Debate continued.

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According to sessional order, proceedings interrupted at 4.00 pm for Questions. The committee reported progress. ______

12 QUESTIONS

According to sessional order, at the conclusion of Questions, a supplementary question for a written answer was asked by a member.

13 REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL 2019

On the order of the day being read, The President left the Chair and the House sat as a committee of the whole for consideration of the bill.

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The Temporary Chair of Committees (Mr Mallard) took the Chair.

Debate resumed.

Question put: That the amendments of Mr Donnelly on sheet c2019-144J be agreed to—

The committee divided.

Ayes 14

Mr Amato Mrs Houssos Mr Moselmane * Mr Banasiak Mr Latham Revd Mr Nile Mr Borsak Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Mr Roberts Mr Donnelly Mr Martin Mr Tudehope Mr Farlow Mr Mason-Cox * Tellers

Noes 25

Mr Blair Mr Harwin Mr Searle Ms Boyd Ms Hurst Mr Secord Mr Buttigieg * Ms Jackson Ms Sharpe Mr D'Adam * Mr Khan Mr Shoebridge Ms Faehrmann Mrs Mitchell Mrs Taylor Mr Fang Mr Mookhey Mr Veitch Mr Field Ms Moriarty Mrs Ward Mr Franklin Mr Pearson Mr Graham Mr Primrose * Tellers

Question resolved in the negative.

Amendments negatived

Question put: That the amendment of Mr Blair on sheet c2019-123 be agreed to—

The committee divided.

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Ayes 31

Mr Amato Mrs Houssos Mr Primrose Mr Banasiak Ms Jackson Mr Roberts Mr Blair Mr Khan Mr Searle Mr Borsak Mr Latham Mr Secord Mr Buttigieg Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Ms Sharpe Mr Donnelly Mr Martin Mrs Taylor Mr Fang Mr Mason-Cox Mr Tudehope Mr Farlow Mrs Mitchell Mr Veitch Mr Franklin Ms Moriarty Mrs Ward Mr Graham Mr Moselmane * Mr Harwin Revd Mr Nile * Tellers

Noes 8

Ms Boyd Mr Field Mr Pearson * Mr D'Adam * Ms Hurst Mr Shoebridge Ms Faehrmann Mr Mookhey * Tellers

Question resolved in the affirmative.

Amendment agreed to.

Mr Mason-Cox moved amendment no. 1 on sheet c2019-086B—

No. 1 Review of Act Page 7, proposed section 16, line 27. Omit “5 years”. Insert instead “2 years”.

Debate ensued.

Question put: That the amendment of Mr Mason-Cox be agreed to—

The committee divided.

Ayes 14

Mr Amato Mrs Houssos Mr Moselmane * Mr Banasiak Mr Latham Revd Mr Nile Mr Borsak Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Mr Roberts Mr Donnelly Mr Martin Mr Tudehope Mr Farlow Mr Mason-Cox * Tellers

Noes 25

Mr Blair Mr Harwin Mr Searle Ms Boyd Ms Hurst Mr Secord Mr Buttigieg * Ms Jackson Ms Sharpe Mr D'Adam Mr Khan Mr Shoebridge Ms Faehrmann Mrs Mitchell Mrs Taylor Mr Fang Mr Mookhey * Mr Veitch Mr Field Ms Moriarty Mrs Ward Mr Franklin Mr Pearson Mr Graham Mr Primrose * Tellers

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Question resolved in the negative.

Amendment negatived.

Mr Latham moved amendment no. 1 on sheet c2019-119—

No. 1 Meaning of emergency Page 8, proposed Schedule 1. Insert after line 6— emergency, in relation to performing a termination on a person, means the termination is, according to reasonable medical judgment, necessary to prevent an imminent threat of— (a) the person’s death, or (b) the death of another foetus.

Debate ensued.

Mrs Houssos moved: That amendment no. 1 of Mr Latham on sheet c2016-119 be amended by inserting at the end: ", or (c) permanent incapacity or other serious injury"

Debate continued.

Question: That the amendment of Mrs Houssos to the amendment of Mr Latham be agreed to—put and passed.

Question put: That the amendment of Mr Latham, as amended, be agreed to—

The committee divided.

Ayes 14

Mr Amato Mrs Houssos Mr Moselmane * Mr Banasiak Mr Latham Revd Mr Nile Mr Borsak Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Mr Roberts Mr Donnelly Mr Martin Mr Tudehope Mr Farlow Mr Mason-Cox * Tellers

Noes 25

Mr Blair Mr Harwin Mr Searle Ms Boyd Ms Hurst Mr Secord Mr Buttigieg * Ms Jackson Ms Sharpe Mr D'Adam * Mr Khan Mr Shoebridge

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Ms Faehrmann Mrs Mitchell Mrs Taylor Mr Fang Mr Mookhey Mr Veitch Mr Field Ms Moriarty Mrs Ward Mr Franklin Mr Pearson Mr Graham Mr Primrose * Tellers

Question resolved in the negative.

Amendment negatived.

Mr Amato moved amendment no. 1 on sheet c2019-141—

No. 1 Informed consent Page 8, proposed Schedule 1, lines 10 and 11. Omit all words on those lines. Insert instead— (c) in accordance with the law.

Debate ensued.

Question put.

The committee divided.

Ayes 13

Mr Amato Mr Latham Revd Mr Nile Mr Banasiak Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Mr Roberts Mr Borsak Mr Martin Mr Tudehope Mr Donnelly Mr Mason-Cox Mrs Houssos Mr Moselmane * * Tellers

Noes 26

Mr Blair Mr Graham Mr Primrose Ms Boyd Mr Harwin Mr Searle Mr Buttigieg * Ms Hurst Mr Secord Mr D'Adam * Ms Jackson Ms Sharpe Ms Faehrmann Mr Khan Mr Shoebridge Mr Fang Mrs Mitchell Mrs Taylor Mr Farlow Mr Mookhey Mr Veitch Mr Field Ms Moriarty Mrs Ward Mr Franklin Mr Pearson * Tellers

Question resolved in the negative.

Amendment negatived.

Mr Mason-Cox, by leave, moved amendments nos 1 to 5 on sheet c2019-138 in globo—

No. 1 Criminal offences Page 9, proposed Schedule 2.1[2], line 9. Omit “by unqualified persons”.

No. 2 Criminal offences

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Page 9, proposed Schedule 2.1[2], line 10. Omit “performed by unqualified person”.

No. 3 Criminal offences Page 9, proposed Schedule 2.1[2], line 17. Omit “subsection (2)”. Insert “this section”.

No. 4 Criminal offences Page 9, proposed Schedule 2.1[2]. Insert after line 24— (4) A medical practitioner who performs a termination on a person other than in accordance with the Reproductive Health Care Reform Act 2019 commits an offence. Maximum penalty—7 years imprisonment. (5) A registered health practitioner who assists in the performance of a termination on a person that the registered health practitioner knows, or ought reasonably to know, is being performed other than in accordance with the Reproductive Health Care Reform Act 2019 commits an offence. Maximum penalty—7 years imprisonment. No. 5 Criminal offences Page 9, proposed Schedule 2.1[2]. Insert after line 31— registered health practitioner means a person registered under the Health Practitioner Regulation National Law to practise a health profession, other than as a student.

Debate ensued.

Question put.

The committee divided.

Ayes 14

Mr Amato Mrs Houssos Mr Moselmane * Mr Banasiak Mr Latham Revd Mr Nile Mr Borsak Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Mr Roberts Mr Donnelly Mr Martin Mr Tudehope Mr Farlow Mr Mason-Cox * Tellers

Noes 25

Question resolved in the negative.

Amendments negatived.

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Mr Borsak moved amendment no. 1 on sheet c2019-095—

No. 1 Coercion Page 10, proposed Schedule 2.1. Insert after line 2—

[4] Section 545B Intimidation or annoyance by violence or otherwise Insert after section 545B(1)— (1A) For the purposes of subsection (1), if a person is convicted of an offence under that subsection that involves any of the following circumstances the maximum penalty is 7 years imprisonment— (a) using intimidation or other action mentioned in subsection (l) with a view to compelling another person to have a termination performed, (b) using intimidation or other action mentioned in subsection (l) as a consequence of another person abstaining from having a termination performed. [5] Section 545B(2) Insert in appropriate order— termination has the same meaning as in section 82.

Debate ensued.

Ms Sharpe moved amendment no. 1 on sheet c2019-147—

No. 1 Coercion to have termination performed Page 10, proposed Schedule 2.1. Insert after line 2—

[4] Section 545B Intimidation or annoyance by violence or otherwise Insert after section 545B(1)— (1A) To avoid any doubt, for the purposes of subsection (1)— (a) a person who coerces a person to have a termination performed, including for the purposes of sex selection, is taken to have used intimidation to compel the person to have the termination, and (b) a person who coerces a person to not have a termination performed is taken to have used intimidation to prevent the person having the termination.

Debate continued. ______

According to sessional order, proceedings interrupted at 10.00 pm for adjournment. ______

The committee continued to sit. ______

Debate continued.

Question put: That the amendment of Mr Borsak on sheet c2019-095 be agreed to—

The committee divided.

Ayes 14

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Mr Amato Mrs Houssos Mr Moselmane * Mr Banasiak Mr Latham Revd Mr Nile Mr Borsak Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Mr Roberts Mr Donnelly Mr Martin Mr Tudehope Mr Farlow Mr Mason-Cox * Tellers

Noes 25

Question resolved in the negative.

Amendment negatived.

Ms Sharpe, by leave, moved that amendment number 1 to amend amendment 1 on sheet c2019-147 be amended as follows:

1. In paragraph 1A (a) omit "coerces" and insert instead "uses intimidates to coerce".

2. In paragraph 1A (b) omit "coerces" and insert instead "uses intimidates to coerce".

Question put and passed.

Question put: That the amendment of Ms Sharpe on sheet c2019-147, as amended, be agreed to—

No. 1 Coercion to have termination performed Page 10, proposed Schedule 2.1. Insert after line 2—

[4] Section 545B Intimidation or annoyance by violence or otherwise Insert after section 545B(1)— (1A) To avoid any doubt, for the purposes of subsection (1)— (a) a person who uses intimidation to coerce a person to have a termination performed, including for the purposes of sex selection, is taken to have used intimidation to compel the person to have the termination, and (b) a person who uses intimidation to coerce a person to not have a termination performed is taken to have used intimidation to prevent the person having the termination.

The committee divided.

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Ayes 30

Mr Amato Mrs Houssos Mr Primrose Mr Banasiak Ms Jackson Mr Roberts Mr Blair Mr Khan Mr Searle Mr Borsak Mr Latham Mr Secord Mr Buttigieg Mrs Maclaren-Jones * Ms Sharpe Mr Donnelly Mr Martin Mrs Taylor Mr Fang Mr Mason-Cox Mr Veitch Mr Farlow Mrs Mitchell Mrs Ward Mr Franklin Ms Moriarty Mr Graham Mr Moselmane * * Tellers Mr Harwin Revd Mr Nile

Noes 8

Ms Boyd Mr Field Mr Pearson Mr D'Adam * Ms Hurst Mr Shoebridge Ms Faehrmann Mr Mookhey * * Tellers

Question resolved in the affirmative.

Amendment agreed to.

Ordered: That the Temporary Chair of Committees leave the Chair, report progress and seek leave to sit again next sitting day. ______

The Temporary Chair of Committees reported progress and obtained leave to sit again next sitting day.

The House adopted the report.

14 PETITIONS––GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSES

Mr Harwin, according to sessional order, tabled the Government’s response to petitions:

(1) Response to a petition presented by Revd Mr Nile on 20 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

(2) Response to a petition presented by Revd Mr Nile on 20 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

(3) Response to a petition presented by Mr Farlow on 20 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

(4) Response to a petition presented by Mr Farlow on 21 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

(5) Response to a petition presented by Mr Borsak on 21 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

(6) Response to a petition presented by Mr Borsak on 21 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

(7) Response to a petition presented by Mr Borsak on 22 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

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(8) Response to a petition presented by Mr Borsak on 22 August 2019 concerning the Reproductive Health Care Reform Bill 2019.

Ordered: That the document be printed.

15 ADJOURNMENT

Mr Harwin moved: That this House do now adjourn.

Debate ensued.

The House continued to sit after midnight. ______

WEDNESDAY 25 SEPTEMBER 2019 AM

Question put and passed.

The House adjourned at 12.11 pm until Wednesday 25 September 2019 at 11.00 am.

16 ATTENDANCE

All members present, except the President and Ms Cusack.

David Blunt Clerk of the Parliaments

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Authorised by the Parliament of New South Wales