Volume V Saturday No. 18 2nd November, 1963

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

DEWAN RA'AYAT

(HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES)

OFFICIAL REPORT

CONTENTS

ADMINISTRATION OF OATH [Col. 1881] ADDRESS OF THANKS TO HIS MAJESTY THE YANG DI-PERTUAN AGONG (OPENING OF NEW PARLIA­ MENT HOUSE) (Motion) [Col. 1883] PRESENTATION OF THE SPEAKER'S CHAIR [Col. 1890] MOTION OF THANKS TO THE COMMONS HOUSE OF PARLIAMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND [Col. 1898] ADJOURNMENT SINE DIE (Motion) [Col. 1906]

DI-CHETAK DI-JABATAN CHETAK KERAJAAN OLEH THOR BENG CHONG, A.M.N., PENCHETAK KERAJAAN KUALA LUMPUR 1964 MALAYSIA DEW AN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES) Official Report

Fifth Session of the First Dewan Ra'ayat

Saturday, 2nd November, 1963 The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock a.m.

PRESENT: The Honourable Mr Speaker DATO' HAJI MOHAMED NOAH BIN OMAR, P.M.N., S.P.M.J., D.P.M.B., P.I.S., J.P. the Prime Minister, Minister of External Affairs and Minister of Information and Broadcasting, Y. T. M. TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN PUTRA AL-HAJ, K.O.M. (Kuala Kedah). the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence and Minister of Rural Development, TUN HAJI ABDUL RAZAK BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N. (Pekan). the Minister of Internal Security and Minister of the Interior, DATO' DR ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N. (Johor Timor). the Minister of Finance, ENCHE' TAN SIEW SIN, J.P. (Melaka Tengah). the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications, DATO' V. T. SAMBANTHAN, P.M.N. (Sungei Siput). the Minister of Transport, DATO' HAJI SARDON BIN HAJI JUBIR, P.M.N. (Pontian Utara). the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, ENCHE' MOHAMED KHIR BIN JOHARI (Kedah Tengah). the Minister of Labour and Social Welfare, ENCHE' BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah). the Minister of Health, ENCHE' ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAH TALIB (Kuantan). the Minister of Commerce and Industry, DR LIM SWEE AUN, J.P. (Larut Selatan). the Minister of Education, CAPT. HAJI ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAJI SAKHAWAT ALI KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang). the Minister of Sarawak Affairs, TEMENGGONG JUGAH ANAK BARIENG (Sarawak). the Assistant Minister of the Interior, ENCHE' CHEAH THEAM SWEE (Bukit Bintang). the Assistant Minister of Labour and Social Welfare, ENCHE' V. MANICKAVASAGAM, J.M.N., PJ.K. (Klang). the Assistant Minister of Commerce and Industry, TUAN HAJI ABDUL KHALID BIN AWANG OSMAN (Kota Star Utara). 1875 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1876

The Honourable the Assistant Minister of Information and Broadcasting, DATU MOHAMED ISMAIL BIN MOHAMED YUSOF, P.D.K. (Jerai). the Assistant Minister of Rural Development, ENCHE' ABDUL-RAHMAN BIN YA'KUB (Sarawak). ENCHE' ABDUL AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Kuala Langat). ENCHE' ABDUL GHANI BIN ISHAK, A.M.N. (Melaka Utara). ENCHE' ABDUL RAHIM ISHAK (Singapore). ENCHE' ABDUL RAUF BIN A. RAHMAN, K.M.N., P.J.K. (Krian Laut). ENCHE' ABDUL RAZAK BIN HAJI HUSSIN (Lipis). ENCHE' ABDUL SAMAD BIN OSMAN (Sungei Patani). TOH MUDA HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI ABDUL RAOF (Kuala Kangsar). TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI MOHD. SALLEH, A.M.N., P.I.S. (Segamat Utara). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN ABDULLAH (Kota Bharu Hilir). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN ARSHAD, A.M.N. (Muar Utara). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN MOHAMED SHAH, S.M.J. (Johor Bharu Barat). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN SAAID (Seberang Utara). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN HAJI YUSOF, PJ.K. (Krian Darat). CHE' AJIBAH BINTI ABOL (Sarawak). O. K. K. DATU ALIUDDIN BIN DATU HARUN, P.D.K. (Sabah). ENCHE' AWANG DAUD BIN MATUSIN (Sarawak). TUAN HAJI AZAHARI BIN HAJI IBRAHIM (Kubang Pasu Barat). ENCHE' AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam). DR BURHANUDDIN BIN MOHD. NOOR (Besut). ENCHE' JONATHAN BANGAU ANAK RENANG (Sarawak). PENGARAH BANYANG (Sarawak). ENCHE' CHAN CHONG WEN, A.M.N. (Kluang Selatan). ENCHE' CHAN SIANG SUN (Bentong). ENCHE' CHAN SWEE HO (Ulu Kinta). ENCHE' CHAN YOON ONN (Kampar). ENCHE' CHIA THYE POH (Singapore). ENCHE' CHIN SEE YIN (Seremban Timor). ENCHE' V. DAVID (Bungsar). ENCHE' DAGOK ANAK RANDEN (Sarawak). ENCHE' EDWIN ANAK TANGKUN (Sarawak). DATIN FATIMAH BINTI HAJI HASHIM, P.M.N. (Jitra-Padang Terap). DATU GANIE GILONG, P.D.K., J.P. (Sabah). ENCHE' GANING BIN JANGKAT (Sabah). ENCHE' GEH CHONG KEAT, K.M.N. (Penang Utara). DR GOH KENG SWEE (Singapore). ENCHE' HAMZAH BIN ALANG, A.M.N. (Kapar). ENCHE' HANAFI BIN MOHD. YUNUS, A.M.N. (Kulim Utara). ENCHE' HARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Baling). ENCHE' HARUN BIN PILUS (Trengganu Tengah). TUAN HAJI HASAN ADLI BIN HAJI ARSHAD (Kuala Trengganu Utara). TUAN HAJI HASSAN BIN HAJI AHMAD (Tumpat). 1877 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1878

The Honourable ENCHE' HASSAN BIN MANSOR (Melaka Selatan). ENCHE' HO SEE BENG (Singapore). ENCHE' STANLEY HO NGUN KHIU, A.D.K. (Sabah). ENCHE' HONG TECK GUAN (Sabah). ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN TO' MUDA HASSAN (Raub). ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN MOHD. NOORDIN, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Parit). TUAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN HAJI SAMAN (Kota Bharu Hulu). ENCHE' IKHWAN ZAINI (Sarawak). ENCHE' IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Seberang Tengah). ENCHE' ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Penang Selatan). ENCHE' ISMAIL BIN HAJI KASSIM (Kuala Trengganu Selatan). ENCHE' JEK YEUN THONG (Singapore). PENGHULU JINGGUT ANAK ATTAN (Sarawak). ENCHE' JUMAH BIN SALIM (Sabah). ENCHE' KANG KOCK SENG (Batu Pahat). ENCHE' K. KARAM SINGH (Damansara). CHE' KHADIJAH BINTI MOHD. SIDEK (Dungun). ENCHE' KHONG KOK YAT (Batu Gajah). ENCHE' KADAM ANAK KIAI (Sarawak). ENCHE' KOW KEE SENG (Singapore). ENCHE' EDMUND LANGGU ANAK SAGA (Sarawak). ENCHE' LEE KUAN YEW (Singapore). ENCHE' LEE SAN CHOON, K.M.N. (Kluang Utara). ENCHE' LEE SIOK YEW, A.M.N. (Sepang). ENCHE' AMADEUS MATHEW LEONG, A.D.K. (Sabah). ENCHE' CHARLES LINANG (Sarawak). ENCHE' LING BENG SIEW (Sarawak). ENCHE' LIM HUAN BOON (Singapore). ENCHE' LIM JOO KONG, J.P. (Alor Star). ENCHE' LIM KEAN SIEW (Dato Kramat). „ ENCHE' LIM KIM SAN (Singapore). ENCHE' LIU YOONG PENG (Rawang). ENCHE' PETER LO SU YIN (Sabah). O. K. K. HAJI MAHALI BIN O. K. K. MATJAKIR, A.D.K. (Sabah). ENCHE' T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.P. (Port Dickson). ENCHE' MOHAMED BIN UJANG (Jelebu-Jempol). ENCHE' MOHAMED ABBAS BIN AHMAD (Hilir Perak). ENCHE' MOHD. ARIF SALLEH, A.D.K. (Sabah). ENCHE' MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA (Pasir Puteh). ENCHE' MOHAMED DAHARI BIN HAJI MOHD. ALI (Kuala Selangor). ORANG TUA MOHAMMAD DARA BIN LANGPAD (Sabah). ENCHE' MOHD. DUN BIN BANIR, A.D.K. (Sabah). ENCHE' MOHAMED NOR BIN MOHD. DAHAN (Ulu Perak). DATO' MOHAMED HANIFAH BIN HAJI ABDUL GHANI, PJ.K. (Pasir Mas Hulu). ENCHE' MOHAMED YUSOF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N. (Temerloh). TUAN HAJI MOKHTAR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan). 1879 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1880

The Honourable TUAN HAJI MUHAMMAD SU'AUT BIN HAJI MUHD. TAHIR (Sarawak). NIK MAN BIN NIK MOHAMED (Pasir Mas Hilir). ENCHE' NG ANN TECK (Batu). ENCHE' NGUI AH KUI, A.D.K. (Sabah). ENCHE' ONG PANG BOON (Singapore). ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Perlis Utara). ENCHE' ABANG OTHMAN BIN ABANG HAJI MOASILI (Sarawak). ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN WOK (Singapore). ENCHE' QUEK KAI DONG, J.P. (Seremban Barat). TUAN HAJI REDZA BIN HAJI MOHD. SAID, J.P. (Rembau Tampin). ENCHE' SANDOM ANAK NYUAK (Sarawak). ENCHE' SEAH TENG NGIAB, P.I.S. (Muar Pantai). ENCHE' D. R. SEENIVASAGAM (Ipoh). ENCHE' S. P. SEENIVASAGAM (Menglembu). ENCHE' SIM BOON LIANG (Sarawak). ENCHE' SNG CHIN JOO (Sarawak). ENCHE' SONG THIAN CHEOK (Sarawak). DATU DONALD ALOYSIUS STEPHENS, P.D.K. (Sabah). TUAN SYED ESA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N., S.MJ., P.I.S. (Batu Pahat Dalam). TUAN SYED HASHIM BIN SYED AJAM, A.M.N., PJ.K., J.P. (Sabak Bernam). TUAN SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALBAR, J.M.N. (Johor Tenggara). ENCHE' TAJUDIN BIN ALI, PJ.K. (Larut Utara). ENCHE' TAN CHENG BEE, J.P. (Bagan). ENCHE' TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Melaka). ENCHE' TAN PHOCK KIN (Tanjong). ENCHE' TAN TSAK YU (Sarawak). ENCHE' TAN TYE CHEK (Kulim-Bandar Bharu). TUNKU BESAR INDERA RAJA IBNI AL-MARHUM SULTAN IBRAHIM, D.K., P.M.N. (Ulu Kelantan). DATO' TEOH CHZE CHONG, D.P.MJ., J.P. (Segamat Selatan). DR TOH CHIN CHYE (Singapore). ENCHE' TOO JOON HING (Telok Anson). PENGHULU FRANCIS UMPAU ANAK EMPAM (Sarawak). ENCHE' V. VEERAPPEN (Seberang Selatan). WAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN DATU TUANKU BUJANG (Sarawak). WAN SULAIMAN BIN WAN TAM, PJ.K. (Kota Star Selatan). WAN YAHYA BIN HAJI WAN MOHAMED, K.M.N. (Kemaman). ENCHE' WEE TOON BOON (Singapore). ENCHE' YAHYA BIN HAJI AHMAD (Bagan Datoh). ENCHE' YEH PAO TZE (Sabah). ENCHE' YEOH TAT BENG (Bruas). ENCHE' STEPHEN YONG KUET TZE (Sarawak). ENCHE' YONG NYUK LIN (Singapore). ENCHE' YONG WOO MING (Sitiawan). PUAN HAJJAH ZAIN BINTI SULAIMAN, J.M.N., P.I.S. (Pontian Selatan). 1881 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1882

The Honourable TUAN HAJI ZAKARIA BIN HAJI MOHD. TAIB (Langat). ENCHE' ZULKIFLEE BIN MUHAMMAD (Bachok).

ABSENT: The Honourable the Minister without Portfolio, DATO' SULEIMAN BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N. (Muar Selatan). the Minister without Portfolio, DATO' ONG YOKE LIN, P.M.N. (Ulu Selangor). ENCHE' AHMAD BOESTAMAM (Setapak). ENCHE' LEE SECK FUN (Tanjong Malim). ENCHE' PETER J. MOJUNTIN, A.D.K. (Sabah). TUAN HAJI OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Tanah Merah). ENCHE' S. RAJARATNAM (Singapore). WAN MUSTAPHA BIN HAJI ALI (Kelantan Hilir).

IN ATTENDANCE: The Honourable the Minister without Portfolio, ENCHE' KHAW KAI-BOH, PJ.K. PRAYERS Che' Ajibah binti Abol ... Sarawak Enche' Abang Othman (Mr Speaker in the Chair) bin Abang Haji Moasili ADMINISTRATION Penghulu Francis Umpau OF OATH anak Empam Wan Abdul Rahman bin The following Members made and Datu Tuanku Bujang ... subscribed the Affirmation required by law: Enche' Awang Daud bin Temenggong Jugah anak Matusin Barieng, O.B.E Sarawak Penghulu Jinggut anak Enche' Lee Kuan Yew ... Singapore Attan Dr Toh Chin Chye Enche' Stephen Yong Dr Goh Keng Swee Kuet Tze Enche' Ong Pang Boon Enche' Dagok anak Randen „ Enche' Lim Kim San Enche' Kadam anak Kiai Enche' Yong Nyuk Lin Enche' Othman bin Wok Enche' Sim Boon Liang Enche' Jek Yuen Thong Enche' Edwin anak Tangkun Enche' Wee Toon Boon Enche' Chia Thye Poh ... Singapore Enche' Abdul Rahim Ishak Enche' Kow Kee Seng ... Enche' Ho See Beng ... Datu Donald A. Enche' Lim Huan Boon Stephens Sabah Orang Tua Mohamed Enche' Amadeus M. Dara bin Langpad ... Sabah Leong Enche' Sng Chin Joo ... Sarawak Enche' Jhumah bin Salim Enche' Tan Tsak Yu ... Enche' Stanley Ho Ngun Enche' Abdul-Rahman Khiu bin Ya'kub Dato' Ganie Gilong, Enche' Jonathan Bangau P.D.K., J.P anak Renang ...... „ Enche' Peter Lo Su Yin 1889 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1890 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyo- perkembangan fikiran, dan sa-kira-nya kong usul Yang Teramat Mulia Per- dapat-lah kita salorkan dengan dana Menteri ini atas dasar demokrasi sunggoh2 pada menuju kebebasan dan berparlimen, atas dasar Perlembagaan kemajuan. 2 ini-lah sa-bagaimana Parlimen yang Pada akhir-nya, saya berdo'a agar telah maju yang merupakan ta'at setia- berdiri-lah democracy berperlembagaan nya dalam chara memberi fikiran yang sihat bagi membawa kemajuan bagaimana yang kita lihat lampu yang dengan perkembangan yang sihat terang dalam Dewan yang bersejarah mengikut pertunjok Allah. ini. Lampu letrik yang memakai dua positive dan negative, dan itu-lah yang Question put, and agreed to. merupakan timbul-nya chahaya yang Resolved, gemilang, dan bagitu-lah Pembangkang "Ampun Tuanku, yang telah berjalan dalam Persekutuan Patek, Yang di-Pertua dan Ahli2 Tanah Melayu, dalam Parlimen Per­ Dewan Ra'ayat dalam persidangan Parlimen, berhajat memohonkan sekutuan Tanah Melayu yang dahulu, ampun hendak mempersembahkan dan ini-lah juga yang kita harap dan uchapan terima kaseh kapada Ke­ akan kita jalankan pembangkangan bawah Duli kerana bangunan yang yang sihat dan yang penoh ta'at setia teramat endah ini di-Ibu Kota Kebawah Duli bandar Kuala Lumpur kita pada menjalankan kemajuan dan yang Kebawah Duli dengan limpah perkembangan democracy dan per­ kurnia, pada masa memashhorkan kembangan berparlimen di-negeri kita pembukaan-nya hari ini, 2hb Novem­ ini. Mudah2an dengan jalan yang demi- ber, 1963, telah menyerahkan bangun­ an ini bagi kegunaan Parlimen kian dapat-lah kita semua berjalan Malaysia sa-lama-lama-nya." pada jalan yang betul dan jalan yang mendapat limpah kurnia Allah. Mr Speaker: The meeting is sus­ pended for fifteen minutes. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Parlimen ini- lah terletak-nya harapan seluroh bangsa Sitting suspended at 1.05 p.m. dan negara kita pada mengamalkan democracy yang sihat dengan berper- Sitting resumed at 1.20 p.m. 2 lembagaan yang benar menjadi lam- (Mr Speaker in the Chair) bang democracy berparlimen mengikut perkembangan democracy dan per­ PRESENTATION OF THE kembangan Parlimen yang sihat, bagi SPEAKER'S CHAIR kemajuan, kebebasan, ke'adilan dan kemewahan; kita dapat bersama di- Serjeant-at-Arms: Tuan Yang di- atas memberikan sumbangan yang Pertua, saya hendak ma'alumkan ia- besar bagi perkembangan democracy itu suatu Rombongan, yang di-hantar dan peri kemanusiaan sa-jagat hendak- oleh Majlis House of Commons of nya dengan Parlimen Malaysia kita Great Britain dan Ireland Utara ini. kerana menyampaikan hadiah Kerusi Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dengan ada- Speaker kapada Dewan Ra'ayat Malay­ nya bangunan Parlimen yang endah sia, bertanya kira-nya Majlis Yang besar dan tersergam ini, bangun-lah Berhormat ini sudi menerima keda- democracy yang besar dan endah pula tangan Rombongan itu. ia-itu bagaimana bertambah besar-nya Mr Speaker: Sudi-kah kira-nya bangunan ini dan bertambah besar-lah Majlis ini menerima kedatangan jiwa kita yang hendak menegakkan Rombongan itu? Is it the pleasure of democracy berparlimen di-negeri ini, 2 the House that the Delegation be dan saya berharap dalam masa yang admitted? {House indicates assent). akhir ini sa-bagaimana yang kita terlihat dalam surat2 khabar, dan de­ Mr Serjeant-at-Arms, will you please ngan itu ada menunjokkan karina2 yang conduct the Delegation to the bar. kita bimbangkan supaya jangan-lah (Serjeant-at-Arms conducts the Delega­ berlaku democracy yang mengandongi tion to the bar). ugutan dan jangan-lah ada democracy Mr Speaker: Members of the Delega­ yang melakukan penindasan di-dalam tion, pray be seated. 1891 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1892

Mr Speaker: Honourable Members thank you for the cordial welcome of the House of Commons Delegation, which you have given us as ambassa­ it is my great honour and privilege dors of that House. this morning to extend to you, in the We are here today not as representa­ name of this House, indeed in the name tives of Her Majesty's Government in of the people of Malaysia, a most hearty the United Kingdom, or as delegates welcome here. (Applause). from the political parties, but as Today is a Red-Letter Day in the representatives of and by the unani­ history of our nation. This is the very mous wish, of the House of Commons. first time that we are meeting in our new Chamber in this new Parliament Build­ Mr Tom Fraser and Mr Kenneth ing. It is also the very first time that Robinson, who form part of our we have members from Sabah, Sarawak Delegation, are distinguished Members and Singapore sitting here with us, of the Opposition Front Bench at reunited with us as it were, as Mem­ Westminster, while Mr Colin Turner bers of the House of Representatives occupies a place with me on the of Malaysia. And you are the very Government side of the House. So you first Delegation to have come to this will see we left party politics behind House from the Mother of Parliaments. in Britain, and we are here, therefore, Such a conjuncture of notable "First as representatives of the House of Times" is truly unique. Commons as a whole, carrying a letter of introduction from our Speaker. The gift that you have brought from so far away is one which seems to be Mr Charles Gordon, a learned Clerk befitting and appropriate to the of our House who is, of course, never occasion in a highly symbolic way. political either in Britain or here, It is the Speaker's Chair, more than accompanies us and advises on all any other single appurtenance of a matters of procedure. Legislative Chamber, that symbolises best the essentials of parliamentary On August 1st the Chancellor of the democracy and the parliamentary Duchy of Lancaster moved that the system of government as practised in Delegation now before you should be the countries of the Commonwealh. It "granted leave of absence to present is the focal point for debate, that on behalf of this House a Speaker's essential prelude to the making of Chair to the Malayan House of decisions in the House by which the Representatives " majoriy justifies its right to govern, Therefore, we bring to you today a and the minority its constitutional present from the British Parliament. right to criticise the acts of the majority We do not regard it as of wood, leather and to oppose it in every legitimate and nails, but as an emblem of the way. It is in brief the epitome of a spirit and tradition of the British system of government that puts the Parliament. highest importance on the rights of the individual, on the freedoms of speech, To many people unfamiliar with our expression and assembly, and on the Parliamentary procedure the ceremo­ rule of law. nial may seem at times archaic and quaint, but it has grown during I now call upon the Leader of the centuries of democratic government, Delegation to address the House. and everything connected with it has Sir John Barlow, M.P. (Conservative) been put there for a good reason. (Leader of the Delegation from the The Speaker's Chair is the most United Kingdom House of Commons): important symbol of Parliamentary Mr Speaker and Hon'ble Members of Government. The Speaker, for whose the House of Representatives: It is our occupation it exists, presides unflin­ duty and privilege to convey to you, chingly over the struggle of Party Sir, and to this House of Representa­ warfare and resolves its contentions. He tives, the Greetings of the House of is scruplously impartial, and safeguards Commons at Westminster, and to and protects minority opinions, but 1893 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1894 having done that, allows the majority Sir Frank Swettenham subsequently opinion to prevail. became the Resident in Selangor, and The occupant of this chair should later High Commissioner, until he always have a sense of humor. Some­ retired in 1904. He enjoyed an active times when feeling runs high a jocular old age, collecting his pension until he word, an unnecessarily slow response, died in 1946. or even a deaf ear, may well control a I always look upon Sir Frank as one heated House. of the people who contributed most to Great Britain and Malaysia have the development of Malaya, and the much in common, for fundamentally close ties which he helped to form in our wealth in past ages was derived those early days are not forgotten now. from agriculture and fishing, and This young Parliament with an subsequently thiough the addition of optimistic and wealthy country behind commerce and industry. it, will have many problems to face, When 1 first entered Parliament in and we hope that our form of democra­ 1945 I had the honour of being elected tic government which has survived the for an agricultural division and repre­ centuries with suitable change and sented more cows than anyone else in evolution, may be of use to you. the House. Now, I have the honour to It was originally proposed that the represent a Lancashire industrial and House of Commons would present a residential division. Speaker's Chair to the new Malayan So 1 too have had experience of Parliament to mark the Independence agriculture and industry. of Malaya in 1957. In deference to the wishes of the authorities in Malaya, I am also no newcomer to your who wanted the Chair to harmonise shores, having first arrived here about with the decor of the new Parliament 40 years ago, and my firm, which was building, no action was taken until you one of the pioneers in the rubber plant­ made us aware of your wishes. ing industry, celebrates its centenary this year. When this information was available I was privileged to work closely for a design was prepared by the Design many years with the late Sir Frank Unit of the Ministry of Public Building Swettenham, for whom I had the and Works, which subsequently highest regard, and who many think received your approval. contributed greatly to the development In accordance with the wishes of of Malaya. your Prime Minister, the presentation It is Interesting to note that in 1874, coincides with the Opening Ceremony when Sir Frank was a young man, he of your beautiful new Parliament received a letter, copy of which I have building. seen, from the Sultan of Selangor. As you will see, the chair is made of In that letter the Sultan offered the teak, while the arms and seat are sum of $1,000 a month, and promised covered in blue leather. to enter into an agreement. A silver plate on the chair is The result of this offer was the inscribed with the words: request from your Sultans for the "PRESENTED BY THE BRI­ assistance of the British in the collec­ TISH HOUSE OF COMMONS TO tion of taxes, and the administration THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTA­ and protection of your States. TIVES OF MALAYSIA". The Federal States of Malaya were never Colonies, because we were invi­ Although this gift was originally ted as expert advisers to initiate a intended for the Malayan Parliament, modern system of Government. we have the greater honour of present­ ing it to the Malaysian Parliament. Our friendship and co-operation You may be interested to hear, Mr remains with you to this day. Speaker, that to the amusement of 1895 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1896 my colleagues 1 brought with me some members of the House of Commons ipecac roots of a much improved strain and indeed, for all the people of the which have been developed in England. United Kingdom. I expect and hope they will prosper In our own House, Sir John usually here; and even more may I express the speaks for the Conservative party; I hope that the roots of democracy, usually speak for the Labour Party already planted and thriving in this (Laughter). Today we speak not for country will continue to develop in our Parties but for our Parliament and such a way so as to withstand all the our People (Applause). And somewhat winds and weather of a turbulent unusually, Mr Speaker, we are in com­ world. plete agreement (Laughter). Events never stand still, evolution I have been a Member of Parliament proceeds apace, and your new stature for quite a long time. Today my mind far transcends that of Malaya in 1957. goes back to the destruction of our The Federation of the States of House of Commons by bombing in the Malaya, Singapore, Sarawak and Great War more than 20 years ago. Sabah in Malaysia is the result of When it was rebuilt, gifts of essential statemanship of the highest order, and furnishings were made by Common­ creates a new State in the wealth countries and Colonies all over Commonwealth. the world. We are proud to be part of You will be greatly welcomed by the such a large and agreeable family; and Commonwealth. We have had close proud, too, that the family is increa­ associations for more than a century to singly one of free and independent our mutual benefit. people. Our presentation today is an impor­ We in Britain are also privileged to tant symbol of democratic government, offer small gifts to sister-Assemblies in and a milestone in the history of our the Commonwealth as a token of good­ nations. will and esteem. This is one such occasion and it is a particularly happy From the foundations laid in the past one for those of us who are participa­ a new State is now emerging, and we ting personally. assure you that although you are 8,000 miles from Britain we shall never The opening of your magnificent forget you. new Parliament Building and the first Responsibility remains with us to proceedings we have witnessed this help you in your years of maturity, and morning mark the beginning of a new we hope that the Chair which we bring partnership. We are especially honoured today symbolises the authority of in presenting a Speaker's Chair democratic government. for your new House of Representatives. And all of us hope that the Parliament This system of government has of Malaysia will bring great social and served Great Britain for centuries in economic benefit to all the people you the past. seek to serve. May it serve you for centuries to Mr Speaker, the United Kingdom come, (Applause). consists of England, Scotland, Wales Mr Speaker: I now call upon the and Northern Ireland. The people of Honourable Mr Tom Fraser to address those four countries did not always the House. work together so amicably. Sir John Barlow is proud to be an Englishman. Mr T. Fraser, M.P. (Labour) (Mem­ Equally, I am proud to be a Scotsman ber of the Delegation from the United (Laughter). We are both proud to be Kingdom): Mr Speaker, it is my citizens and servants of the United privilege to assure you, if assurance be Kingdom. needed, that my friend and colleague, England and Scotland came together Sir John Barlow, has spoken for all the more than 250 years ago by voluntary 1897 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1898 agreement. Our coming together, under House of Parliament of the United one Government and one Parliament, Kingdom, and in fulfilment of the has proved to be of mutual benefit to Queen's direction, and on behalf of the both countries and, we hope, of benefit 630 members of the British House of to other Commonwealth countries too. Commons, and of the whole people of the United Kingdom, I join with my I have found it interesting to recall colleagues of this Delegation in asking this development because you are also you, Mr Speaker, to accept this gift. bringing together diverse peoples in (Whereupon the Chair is unveiled) Malaysia. And interesting too, because (Applause). after all those years, Mr Speaker in our House of Commons still takes care to MOTION OF THANKS TO THE ensure that the voices of all the coun­ COMMONS HOUSE OF PARLIA­ tries making up the United Kingdom MENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM are heard in debate. No part of the OF GREAT BRITAIN AND whole community served by a Parlia­ NORTHERN IRELAND ment should ever be given cause to feel that its point of view is unexpressed. The Prime Minister: It gives me very, very great pleasure indeed to move I find, however, Mr Speaker, that the motion before this House— occasionally English Members of That this House accepts with thanks and Parliament, who are in the majority, appreciation the gift of the Speaker's Chair complain that the Scots—or perhaps from the Commons House of Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and the Welsh—are given a generous— Northern Ireland as a token of friendship perhaps unduly generous—allocation and goodwill on the part of the British of time (Laughter). Better that, Sir, House of Commons and people towards the than the contrary complaint. House of Representatives and people of Malaysia. In a democracy, it is important that I am sure all members of this House Mr Speaker, among his many respon­ will join with me in expressing our sibilities, will ever protect the rights of minorities. Not surprisingly, this is warmest thanks and approval of the ensured by treating them with gesture made by the British House generosity. of Commons in presenting to this Dewan Ra'ayat this gift of the Occasionally, however, even minori­ Speaker's Chair. ties have to be restrained. Their views The official gift from Britain to having been expressed and taken into Malaysia, from the House of Commons account, the decision of the majority to the Dewan Ra'ayat, provides a must prevail. significant testimony of the long asso­ One of Mr Speaker's most onerous ciation our two countries and peoples responsibilities therefore seems to us to have had for a long time with one be to ensure that the respective rights another. In the older time before our of majorities and minorities are upheld independence, this association was as by all who play their part in a political between the rulers and the protected democracy. The successful discharge of and ruled. With our independence the that responsibility by successive Spea­ rulers departed and they have returned kers in the United Kingdom Parliament to us as friends and not only as friends has ensured the stability of our country but as the best of friends. and the continuing development of our The severance of ties implicit in way of life. sovereignty was carried out from In making this Presentation, Mr beginning to end through peaceful and Speaker, all of us are confident that amicable negotiations, and it has you and your successors in the occupa­ always been a great source of pride tion of this Chair, will be no less to us that we won our independence successful. (Applause). without the shedding of blood. History will say that the credit for this peace­ Sir John Barlow: Mr Speaker, in the ful evolution is shared equally by name and by order of the Commons Great Britain and Malaya. One of 1905 2 NOVEMBER 1963 1906 Many of us here today may not be Question put, and agreed to. here when the next Parliament meets Resolved, (Laughter). But this Chair, this symbol, That this House accepts with thanks and will still be here and I hope it will appreciation the gift of the Speaker's Chair stand as a symbol for democracy from the Commons House of Parliament of through the ages to come and that the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Malaysia will truly become a country Northern Ireland as a token of friendship and goodwill on the part of the British of the people for the people and House of Commons and people towards the formed by the wishes of the people, House of Representatives and people of and that as long as anybody does not Malaysia. believe that such conditions exist, they Mr Speaker: Members of the Delega­ shall have the right of criticism, as tion, please accept this Resolution of much as the Labour Party of England the House and be good enough to has criticised the British Conservative convey it to the Honourable the colonial policies, within the frame- Commons of Great Britain and work of constitutional practice without Northern Ireland. (Applause). fear of tyranny which will make this symbol nothing but a mockery of Sir John Barlow: Thank you, Mr human justice; and that like the Speaker; we shall be pleased to do so. English and Scottish members of the Delegation, all our peoples too will be (The Delegation retires) made to feel proud, no matter what their race may be, that they all belong ADJOURNMENT to the same nation of their own SINE DIE voluntary choice. (Motion) Be that as it may, Mr Speaker, we The Deputy Prime Minister (Tun Haji are extremely grateful for this welcome Abdul Razak): Mr Speaker, Sir, I beg gift, and I would like to join with the to move, Honourable mover of the motion in That the House do now adjourn sine die. the hope that the august Delegation, having conveyed the gift over the seas The Minister of Internal Security to our shores, will convey back to (Dato' Dr Ismail): Sir, I beg to second Westminster the grateful thanks of this the motion. House for this symbol of parliamentary Question put, and agreed. democracy. Resolved, Sir, I beg to second the motion That the House do now adjourn sine die. (Applause). Adjourned at 2.10 p.m.