Copyright 2001, NFPA Report of the Committee on deployment, and evaluation of substantially all career public fire protection and emergency medical services. Fire and Emergency Service Organization and Deployment — Career This list represents the membership at the time the Committee was balloted on the text of this edition. Since that time, changes in the Alan V. Brunacini, Chair membership may have occurred. A key to classifications is found at the City of Phoenix Fire Dept., AZ [E] front of this book. Richard M. Duffy, Secretary This portion of the Technical Committee Report of the International Association of Fire Fighters, DC [L] Committee on Fire and Emergency Service Organization and (Alt. to IAFF Reps.) Deployment — Career is presented for adoption. Terry Allen, City of Cambridge, Canada [E] This Report on Comments was prepared by the Technical Robert C. Barr, Firescope, Inc., MA [SE] Committee on Fire and Emergency Service Organization and Wayne Bernard, City of Surrey Fire Dept., Canada [E] Deployment — Career, and documents its action on the Rep. Fire Chiefs’ Association of British Columbia comments received on its Report on Proposals on NFPA 1710, William L. Bingham, City of Boynton Beach, FL [U] Standard for the Organization and Deployment of Fire Rep. International Fire Marshals Association Suppression Operations, Emergency Medical Operations and Diane Breedlove, City of Sugar Land, TX [C] Special Opertions to the Public by Career Fire Departments, as Kenneth E. Buzzell, United Firefighters of LA City, CA [L] published in the Report on Proposals for the 2001 May Meeting. Rep. International Association of Fire Fighters Ross Chadwick, City of Denton, TX [E] This Report on Comments has been submitted to letter ballot of Welling S. Clark, ITT Industries, CO [RT] the Technical Committee on Fire and Emergency Service John L Cochran, U.S. Fire Administration, MD [SE] Organization and Deployment — Career, which consists of 32 Dennis R. Compton, Mesa Fire Department, AZ [E] voting members; of whom 27 voted affirmatively, 2 negatively after Rep. International Association of Fire Chiefs circulation of negative ballots (Lawrence, Lemmie), 2 abstained Don R. Forrest, United Firefighters of Los Angeles City, CA [L] (Breedlove, Mullikin), and 1 ballot was not returned (King). Lawrence D. Garcia, City of Wichita, KS [E] Rep. International Association of Fire Chiefs Mr. Lawrence voted negatively stating: Harold B. Hairston, City of Philadelphia Fire Department, I vote against the Report on Comments for the following PA [E] reasons: Rep. Metropolitan Fire Chiefs 1. The proposed Standard 1710 refers to studies regarding time- Patrick K. Hughes, North Richland Hills Fire Department, temperature relationships, particular to the apparently TX [U] accelerating rate of rise as the time axis is extended. The popular Rep. International Fire Service Accreditation Congress literature ratifies our fire service anecdotal evidence, suggesting William D. Killen, U.S. Dept. of the Navy, DC [U] that after 8 minutes or so, structural fires go to flashover. Though John K. King, City of Detroit Fire Department, MI [L] my organization staffs and responds at better than the proposed Cortez Lawrence, Auburn Public Safety Department, AL [E] level (4 f/f and 5/8 minutes), there is an undocumented time Jim Lee, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters’ Association, between ignition, discovery, and reporting of the fire incident. It Canada [L] is almost certain that the total time between ignition and initial Rep. International Association of Fire Fighters fire attacks exceed 8 minutes, yet rarely are the structural fires we Valerie Lemmie, City of Dayton Fire Department, OH [C] see post-flashover. Thus the “science” relied on has questionable David McCormack, International Association of Fire Fighters, DC external validity. [L] 2. The “one-size-fits-all” approach may provide disincentives for Larry Mullikin, Stillwater Fire Department, OK [M] communities to utilize technology to reduce fire occurrences or Rep. International Fire Service Training Association to minimize the impact of fires. Strong prevention and education Christopher E. Platten, Wylie, McBride, Jesinger, Sure & Platten, programs, effective code enforcement, and installed protection CA [SE] including automatic sprinkler systems get no credit regarding Franklin D. Pratt, Los Angeles Department, CA [SE] community fire service deployment and response. The proposed Gary Rainey, Miami Dade Fire Rescue, FL [L] standard may only result in more folks working at the Ken Riddle, City of Las Vegas Fire Department, NV [U] with no enhancement of community life and property safety. Nick Russo, Dept. of Fire/Rescue & Emergency Services, 3. Rather proscribing mandate staffing and response, the MA [E] committee should consider performance outcomes. Every Rep. International Association of Fire Chiefs competent should have the capacity and the skills to Mark A. Sanders, Cincinnati Fire Fighters Union, OH [L] provide a risk assessment of the community and project outcomes Patrick Smith, U.S. Dept. of Energy, ID [U] based on the alternatives considered. The “one-size-fits-all” Charles C. Soros, Spencer Safety Products Co., WA [M] approach removes significant expectations that fire chiefs will Rep. Fire Dept Safety Officers Association conduct meaningful risk analysis and abatement. Rather than Edward L. Stinnette, Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Department, defining community problems and proposed solutions it will be VA [E] “1710 requires…” (Sounds just like the “ISO requires…”). The end result may be a lower level of professionalism among fire chiefs and a reduction in technical competencies of leadership. Alternates We can now duck the tough issues! 4. Fire protection is a community issue. National standards, Ricky Black, City of Southlake, TX [E] national training, and even the national assistance programs are (Alt. to C. Lawrence) founded on buttressing local government through a replication of Sallie Clark, Springs, CO [RT], our federal system of government. We have a responsibility to (Alt. to W. S. Clark) accurately inform the elected policy makers of the best options Brian D. Johnson, International Association of Fire Chiefs, regarding any policy decision. But regardless of our preferences, CO [E] they have the responsibility to the entire body politic to make the (Alt. to D. Compton, L. Garcia, N. Russo) appropriate decisions based on their local needs and conditions. Steve Kreis, City of Phoenix Fire Department, AZ [E] The proposed Standard 1710 usurps that local authority and (Alt. to A. V. Brunacini) responsibility. Don N. Whittaker, Bechtel BWXT Idaho, LLC (BBWI), ID [U] 5. Contrary to the rhetoric of the Committee, the proposed (Alt to P. Smith) standard is likely to result in de facto rules for operating fire Milt Wilson, City of Oshawa, ON [E] departments in much of the country. The adoption of this Rep. NFPA Fire Service Section proposed standard by OSHA would risk many organizations and (Alt. to T. Allen) should be addressed through a recommended practice rather than a standard. 6. The NFPA standard process is described as a consensus Staff Liaison: Stephen N. Foley process. In fact, the resulting proposed standard does not represent a consensus representing common grounds for Committee Scope: This Committee shall have primary agreement but rather a majority of the committee members’ responsibility for documents on the organization, operation, opinions and agendas.

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7. Again, I would like to point out that my organization meets Ms. Breedlove abstained stating: the proposed fire staffing and deployment criteria. We assign 5 Without a doubt, given appropriate training and organization, f/f to each pumper (4 f/f minimum) and we get to our fires with shorter response times and adequate staffing will result in better the first unit in less than 5 minutes. But our resource allocation outcomes for those in need of emergency services. The was based on our community risk analysis and affirmed by our department I managed showed my commitment to this as we did elected policy makers. I consider this process the core of our staff apparatus with four and did strive to keep response times to responsibility in the democratic process. less than five minutes. 8. I trust my colleagues on the 1710 Committee will understand Believing strongly in local control of local operations, however, my position. I have been consistent on these points throughout make it difficult to vote affirmatively for a standard that could be the committee process, as have they. Regardless of our imposed on local governments by a state or federal government. agreement or disagreement on the above points I have a very high In addition, I am not confident that adequate study has been regard for all the committee members and hold each in high done to claim that this standard is the result of “scientific” study. professional and personal regards. Again, I believe in the intent – I believe adequate staffing can result in better outcomes but I must abstain from voting to affirm Ms. Lemmie voted negatively stating: 1710. 1. The proposed standard makes no provision or allowances for the use of built-in technology or fire protection systems, public Mr. Mullikin abstained stating: education or code enforcement activities, all of which clearly have Recently, we conducted the balloting on the approval of the a positive impact on the fire problem of a community. draft of NFPA 1710. As the IFSTA representative on the 2. The provision and scope of fire protection at the local level Technical Committee, my intention was to reflect the position of has always been a decision made by the citizens and elected the organization on the issue at hand and to judge the merits of officials of the community being served. No two communities are the draft proposal based on my beliefs and background. the same. Fire protection needs and services levels should be Currently, I have severe differences between what is best for tailored to the identified hazards and local conditions according IFSTA and my personal beliefs that I am unable reconcile. to a strategic plan developed by the community, one hopefully Balancing those two intentions may send a mixed message and that focuses heavily on outcomes measures. cause others to misunderstand IFSTA's official position. As with this decision, IFSTA’s positions must be clear and unambiguous. Therefore, I am requesting that I be allowed to change my vote to abstaining; thereby, not comprising my personal beliefs and allowing IFSTA to present it’s own position. I have had the privilege to serve in one of the greatest professions on earth and I have a deep respect for NFPA. Thank you for the opportunity I was extended and I hope any confusion can be eliminated.

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(Log #16) Delete 4 minute response time in 1710 (Chapter 5.2.3.1.1). Delete 1710- 1 - (Entire Document): Reject all of Chapter 5 (NFPA) 1710. SUBMITTER: Dennis E. Mason, Clark County Fire Chiefs Assoc SUBSTANTIATION: If the above actions take place it would COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 reduce our ability to staff all of our stations and increase our RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety, or delete response times. Unfunded mandates do not help rural fire Chapter 5.2.3.1.1 (Response Time Requirement) departments. AND COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Delete Chapter 5.2.2.1.1 (Minimum Staffing Requirement) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBSTANTIATION: Response time requirements and Comment 1710-2 (Log#17). minimum staffing should be a decision left to each individual community. The proposed standards are not financially feasible ______for non-metro fire departments or fire districts. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #172) Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). 1710- 4 - (Entire Document): Reject SUBMITTER: Victor Rasmussen, Clark County Fire District #9 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 in its entirety. Delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1 in NFPA 1710. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing (min. 4/eng) (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1) (Log #17) Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710). 1710- 2 - (Entire Document): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA 1710 is not in the best interests of SUBMITTER: Keith E. McDonald, Thurston Co FPD #6 the local fire departments. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 NFPA 1710-1720 is not financially feasible or realistic for non- RECOMMENDATION: 1. Delete 1710 in its entirety metro fire departments and districts. 2. Delete the 4 minute response time requirement in 1710. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for 3. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing of minimum 4 Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). person engine companies and to tactical hazards where there will be a requirement of 5 or 6 persons per engine. (Chapter ______5.2.2.1.2) 4. Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in regard to staffing and deployment. (Log #173) SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA 1710 is an attempt to circumvent 1710- 5 - (Entire Document): Reject local control of personnel and staffing issues. Leave these issues SUBMITTER: Gary L. Larson, Clark County Fire District #9 to the individual department or fire district. NFPA 1710 is not in COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the best interests of the local fire departments/districts. It is not RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 in its entirety. financially feasible or realistic for non-metro fire departments and Delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1 in NFPA 1710. districts. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing (min. 4/eng) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter of this comment Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710). has included 4 recommendation in the same comment. The SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA 1710 is not in the best interests of Technical Committee is rejecting all 4 recommendations but the local fire departments. wishes to address each one indivually as follows: NFPA 1710-1720 is not financially feasible or realistic for non- 1. After soliciting public input, the NFPA Standards Council metro fire departments and districts. authorized a project to develop a document on the organization, COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. operation, deployment, and evaluation of substantially all career COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for public fire protection and emergency medical services. When this Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). project was first initiated, the committee considered the different documents it had the authority to write and concluded that the ______development of a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire service. The committee has proceeded to develop the rquirements for such a standard and feels the (Log #174) resulting document will strengthen the deployment of resources 1710- 6 - (Entire Document): Reject in communities protected by substantially all career fire SUBMITTER: John Straub, Clark County Fire District #9 departments. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 2. The committee has concluded that minimum response RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 in its entirety. requirements for fire departments response time are necessary for Delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1 in NFPA 1710. a document addressing fire department organization and Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing (min. 4/eng) deployment. (See also Committee Action on Comment 1710-168 (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1) (Log #841) and Comment 1710-173 (Log #843). Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710). 3. The committee has concluded that minimum staffing SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA 1710 is not in the best interests of requirements for fire department deployment for tactical or high the local fire departments. hazard occupancies, is a minimum of 5 or 6 person staffing. The NFPA 1710-1720 is not financially feasible or realistic for non- AHJ must determine what are those tactical or high-hazard metro fire departments and districts. occupancies in their jurisdiction or response area(s) and staff at COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. a minimum to the level of the standard. These tactical or high- COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for hazard occupancies may be different from jurisdiction to Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). jurisdiction. 4. The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for ______fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. (Log #175) 1710- 7 - (Entire Document): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Brian Richardson, Clallan County Fire District #5 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #18) RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. 1710- 3 - (Entire Document): Reject Delete the four minute response time requirement in 170. SUBMITTER: John R. Ryan, Redmond, WA Delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to minimum four person RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. Delete all of engine companies and to tactical hazards where there will be a Chapter 5 in regard to minimum staffing (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1). requirement of five or six persons per engine.

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Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710 in regard to deployment and confines of the standard. The charge of the committee is to create staffing. a standard for substantially career fire departments. Nothing SUBSTANTIATION: Small communities who rely solely on precludes the committee from adopting 1720 as that standard. It volunteer fire companies struggle to maintain adequate is not a satisfactory excuse for this committee to reject this personnel, such stringent requirements will increase response proposal because of " . . . it’s mandate to develop a minimum time and may make volunteer fire departments even less desirable standard for career fire service deployment and organization." to potential recruits. Seventeen years in the fire service has shown COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. me people value their time more than anything. The standard COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for should address to what competency level a firefighter should Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). achieve, not responses. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). (Log #920) ______1710- 11 - (Entire Document): Reject (Log #321) SUBMITTER: Richard H. Leighty, Grays Harbor Fire District #8 1710- 8 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Lorraine D. Spahr, Lewis Co. Fire Dist. #2 RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not in COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the best interest. RECOMMENDATION: 1. Delete 1710 in its entirety as it not in Delete the 4 minute response time. Delete ALL of Chapter 5 in the best interests of local fire departments; regard to staffing a minimum 4-person engine and to tactical 2. Delete the four-minute response time requirement in 1710 hazards where a requirement of 5-6 persons per engine. Delete all (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1); Chap. 5 (1710) in regard to deployment and staffing. It is not 3. Delete all Chapter 5 in regard to staffing of minimum 4 financially feasible nor realistic for volunteer fire departments and person engine companies and to tactical hazards where these will districts. be a requirement of five or six persons per engine (Chapter SUBSTANTIATION: Volunteer fire departments and districts 5.2.2.1.1); respond from their residences, many times responding directly to 4. Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in regard to the scene depending on closeness to the scene or to the trucks. It development and staffing. It is neither financially feasible nor would cause a slower response if everyone went to the trucks first. realistic for non-metro fire departments and districts. At times also, volunteers, due to response locations 4 minutes is SUBSTANTIATION: Refusal to delete or change the items listed an unreasonable response time to get to the scene. Volunteers in 171- 1720 will put Lewis Fire Department #2 out of business. respond from their residences and job locations, not from a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. manned station. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). ______

(Log #505) (Log #1) 1710- 9 - (Entire Document): Reject 1710- 12 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle SUBMITTER: James R. Dugan, Skagit Fire District #17 SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Durbin, Decatur, IL COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 John D. , Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4980) RECOMMENDATION: 1. Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not Steven W. Abernathy, Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3512) in the best interest of the local fire departments. Scott B. Adams, Markham Fire Department (Log #W1752) 2. Delete the four-minute response time requirement in 1710 Don Adsit, Sterling Hts Fire (Log #W6257) (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1). John M. Agnole, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters 3. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing of minimum four- (Log #W4444) person engine companies and to tactical hazards where there will Jim Ahl, Kern County Fire Fighters (Log #W312) be a requirement of five or six persons per engine (Chapter David Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5012) 5.2.2.1.1). Terri Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5742) 4. Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in regards to deloyment Allen R. Airesman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters and staffing. It si neither financially feasible nor realistic for non- (Log #W5506) metro fire departments and districts. Mark Akins, Fulton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2180) SUBSTANTIATION: Skagit Fire District #17 is an all volunteer Richard Alarcan, Orange City Fire Fighters (Log #W232) department. It takes our fire fighters 3 to 5 minutes to arrive t the James Alden Strain, P. G. Fire Dept. (Log #W6043) station after an alarm, then 3 to 10 minutes to arrive at the scene William M. Alexander, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters of the fire. This station is located in the middle of Guemes (Log #W4820) Island. Because most fire fighting personnel are employed off- James H Alfred, III, Prince Georges Co. Fire Dept island, in Anacortes, it would not be unusual to have 4 or less fire (Log #W6197) fighters avaialble between the hours of 7:30AM and 5:00PM. Tyrone Allen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5772) Guemes Island is strictly a residential Island. There is no town or Penny Allen, P.G. County MD (Log #W5860) city and 85 percent of its residents are retired. The budget for Sean Alliger, Howard County Fire Rescue (Log #W6167) Skagit #17 is just over $50,000. David Allmon, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W281) A review of our records indicate that the average time is 8 1/2 Alyn Alsobrook, L-4-C (Log #W3486) minutes. We would be unable to operate this station, if the Cary Altadonna, Centralia Fire Fighters (Log #W353) requirements listed in part 4, are not deleted. Esteban S Alvarado, East Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W362) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Adrian Anderson, San Mateo County Fire Fighrter (Log #W470) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for David R. Anderson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). (Log #W4361) ______Bruce Ansell, Bellevue, WA (Log #W474) William Arienti, Quincy Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W452) (Log #782) Joseph J. Arnold, Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W2120) 1710- 10 - (Entire Document): Reject John R Arnold, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters SUBMITTER: Don Bivins, Vancouver Fire Dept. (Log #W4170) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Bob Arzaue, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W275) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Steven D Ashe, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Delete all language in 1710 and replace with the language as (Log #W3804) contained in 1720 as currently written, amending the Michael Atchison, Tulsa Fire E-28 ALS, (Log #W3458) Administration section to reflect a single standard for all career, David Atkin, San Ramon Fighters Assn (Log #W508) volunteer and combination fire departments. Paul Atkinson, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn SUBSTANTIATION: Adoption of a single standard would make (Log #W292) enforcement unambiguous and allow for local control within the Paul R. Ator, Tulsa Fire Dept Haz-Mat A (Log #W3469)

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Robert Aubrey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W263) (Log #W3678) George M Borek, Jersey City Fire Dept (Log #W502) Kelly Bach, Tualatin Valley Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1770) John W. Bossard, Clarkesville Fire Department (Log #W73) William J Baird, Lethbridge Fire Fighters (Log #W442) Doug Bouvy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4127) Jack Ballinger, IAFF Local 754 (Log #W2031) Duane L Bowen, Altamonte Springs Professional Fire Fighters David A. Ballou, Hanscom AFB (Log #W184) (Log #W295) Adam K. Balogh, Hazmat (Log #W3479) Paul Boyle, /Rep. Halifax Fire Fighters (Log #W1764) Thomas R. Baltos, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John B. Boysel, Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3482) (Log #W4021) Charles Brace, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4289) Robert Balzer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Robert L Bragg, Charlottesville Fire Fighters (Log #W554) (Log #W4037) Anthony C. Brahler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David K. Banjanin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4313) (Log #W5387) Jean Brassard, Manchester Fire Dept (Log #W1698) Robert T. Bankert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Craig Braswell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W505) (Log #W5524) John Brennan, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard Banske, Calumet City Fire Dept (Log #W478) (Log #W5345) Chris Barden, Riverside City Fire Fighters (Log #W268) Trent Brennen, E-4-C Tulsa fire Dept (Log #W3488) Vernon Barnes, Hazmat (Log #W3480) Robert F. Brett, British Columbia Professional Fire Fighters Scott Barratt, Escondido Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W563) Assoc (Log #W1988) Raymond L. Barringer, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dean Brewer, Waukesha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W322) (Log #W3924) Bob Briare, Marin FF (Log #W473) Mark J. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3840) Walter S. Bricker , Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4069) (Log #W3881) Russell Bridle, Hampton Fire (Log #W242) William F. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Broad, Hazmat (Log #W3460) (Log #W4638) Eddie J. Brooks, Peoria Fire Department Station #10 Ronald H Bartolowits, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1592) (Log #W4502) Paul Brown, Big Spring Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Kenneth C Barton, Lancaster Bureau of Fire (Log #W457) (Log #W38) Darwin Base, Oxnard City Fire (Log #W238) Glen T. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Bass, Bellingham, WA (Log #W462) (Log #W3731) Gary Batch, City of New London (Log #W132) George R. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bruce Bateson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5054) (Log #W4864) Lloyd J. Browning, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Raymond T. Batko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5429) (Log #W4667) Michael J. Brozovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeff Baugrud, Racine, WI (Log #W451) (Log #W3649) Bruce Baurichter, Tacoma Professional Fire Fighters Richard L. Brutt , Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W545) (Log #W5573) Joseph W Bayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas A Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4796) (Log #W3744) James Bayster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4741) Joe Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3925) John L. Beardmore, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Mike Buehler, DFFA (Log #W441) (Log #W6067) Kenneth J. Burg, Wilmington DE (Log #W5878) Frank R Becker, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Burgess, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3468) (Log #W4550) Robert A Burke, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Brian Belitsky, Yorkton, SK (Log #W285) (Log #W3991) Paul J. Bell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4886) Christina Burkert, Protective Services Empl. Coalition Mark P. Benko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W13) (Log #W3901) William M Burkhend, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters William Benson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W374) (Log #W5645) Chester T. Burnett, HM-1 Tulsa Fire (Log #W3489) Wayne G. Bernoska, Seminole County Professional Fire Fighters Richard Burns, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2138) (Log #W3982) David J. Beyer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Burrier, Salt Lake County Fire Dept (Log #W569) (Log #W5106) Thomas C Busch, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6209) Thomas R. Bichler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rich Butcher, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W195) (Log #W4806) Justin M Buthod, E-S-A (Log #W3473) David Bickford, Bangor Fire Fighters Assoc Local 772 Donald J. Butler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2240) (Log #W4432) William T. Biggs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Buzon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5045) (Log #W5597) David P Byrnes, Northern Ohio Fire Fighters (Log #W432) Robert Bittikifer, Detroit (Log #W6161) James M. Byrnes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Grant Blake, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local 2073 (Log #W5681) (Log #W2080) Michael Calbick, Fighters Assn (Log #W571) Ken Blanton, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W257) Michael V Callavo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard Blohm, Hoboken Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley (Log #W4856) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3643) John A. Cannon, Professional Fire Fighters of Maine Local 740 Michael Boback, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2234) (Log #W3874) Deborah Cantwell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log Ronald J. Bodnar, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W373) (Log #W4593) James Caputo, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W61) Steven W Bogard, Evansville Professional Fire Fighters Hector Cardenos, IAFF 624 (Log #W189) (Log #W286) Kenneth P. Carella, New Rochelle Fire Department Jose Bolanos, City of Vacaville (Log #W529) (Log #W3450) Richard J. Bon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bryan Carnahan, Ottumwa, IA (Log #W552) (Log #W5675) Henry R Carner, IAFF (Log #W6436) Michael Bonham, Sacramento CA FF (Log #W582) Timothy J Carney, City of South Euclid (Log #W431) Christopher R. Booz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Carney, Plain Township Fire Fighters Local 3850 (Log #W5808) (Log #W1910) Kenneth D. Boozer, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local Kevin E Carnrick, Hingham Fire Dept (Log #W381) 2073 (Log #W2074) Vincent R Carroccia, Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W557) Richard C Bordley, Livermore Pleasanton Fire Dept Keith Cash, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5174)

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William P Castillo, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6233) (Log #W4508) F.A. Caudle, E-22 Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3495) Timothy S Curtis, Beloit Fire Fighters (Log #W319) Mauro Cetra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4473) Ronald Cushing, Manchester Fire Department Local 856 Tom Chamberlain, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W357) (Log #W2258) Richard Chaney, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W546) Scott Cypher, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4331) Leo Chapman, Regina, Sask (Log #W1916) Michael D’Orazi, City of Alameda Fire Dept (Log #W509) Russell Chard, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Robert J. Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W410) (Log #W3851) Roland M Chavez, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W446) Thomas C Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frederick Childs, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 (Log #W4968) (Log #W209) Jon Daly, Valapraiso Fire Fighters Local 1124 (Log #W25) Pasquale Chirumbolo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John A Daly Jr., Worcester Fire Dept (Log #W393) (Log #W5145) Gene A Dangel, San Ramon Valley Fire (Log #W506) Andrew D. Chulack, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott Daniel, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5363) (Log #W191) Robert Ciesielski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Daniels, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5657) (Log #W4212) Karl P. Cincotta, Dover Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Michael J Danyko, Fairview Fire Dept (Log #W6191) (Log #W1708) Jeff Darby, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6089) William Cinker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey Daum, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3831) (Log #W5826) Bob DAusilio, Alhambra Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W239) Stephen Clapham, Aurora Fire Dept (Log #W222) Kevin G Davis, City of Sioux Falls Fire Rescue (Log #W449) George Clark, Utica, NY (Log #W256) Phil Dawson, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Roy P. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4099) (Log #W535) Charles T. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin Dawyskibr, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W412) (Log #W5687) Steve Dearman, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn Frederick G. Cleis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W6449) (Log #W5032) James L. Degnan, Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6099) William Clifford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John DeJulio, Olathe Fire Dept (Log #W219) (Log #W4616) Brian Delfs, Tucson, AZ (Log #W387) Pat Clinch, Helena, MT (Log #W395) Ricardo L. Delgado, IAFF (Log #W183) Dan E Cochran, Coenr d’Alene Fire Dept (Log #W200) Louis P Demici, Danbury Fire Dept (Log #W340) William T Cochran, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W378) Jeremiah J Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Bill Coennen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3882) (Log #W3813) Bill Cole, Ottawa Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Local 162 Joseph C. Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2049) (Log #W4055) Charles Coleman, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W250) William E. Dengler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Andrew Collins, Colorado Springs Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4145) (Log #W397) Renee Coltz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5351) Charles W. Denham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Eugene Compton, Richmond Fire/EMS Dept. (Log #W5932) (Log #W4794) Dennis Condon, Needham Fire Fighters (Log #W409) Edward Derby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay C Confort, Bellingham, WA (Log #W532) (Log #W4391) Francis P. Conlon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph M. Deresh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4266) (Log #W4551) Joe Conway, Fire Fighters Local 311 (Log #W335) Pat Devaney, Champaign Fire Fighters (Log #W487) Patrick Cook, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W261) Robert E Dewith, Hasting, NE (Log #W389) David Cook, Youngstown Fire Dept (Log #W350) Timothy Robert Dhayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Curtis M Cook, Willoughby Fire Dept (Log #W524) (Log #W3688) Jeffrey Cook, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W540) Mike DiBattiste, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jim Cook, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3498) (Log #W4671) Ross Cook, Montgomery Co. #1664 (Log #W6113) Paul Diedrich, Southgate Fire Dept (Log #W349) Brian Cooke, Manassas, VA (Log #W482) Jeffrey S. Dillon, Mesquite Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W44) Lora Cooke, Dale City, VA (Log #W561) Andrew Dimaggio, CAR 2302 (Log #W3456) Dale Cooley, Tulsa Fire E-S-C (Log #W3467) Steven J Dirksen, Professional Fire Fighters of South Dakota (Log James Cornyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4485) #W306) Jeff Cotner, Bloom Twp Fire Dept (Log #W427) Kenneth J Diulus, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Cowan, Detroit Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W440) (Log #W5186) Jeff Cowley, Sedgwick County Fire Fighters (Log #W206) David Divosevic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3697) (Log #W4539) Robert Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5615) Dennis Doan, Professional Fire Fighters of Idaho (Log #W402) Lester H. Cragan III, Concord Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Sheryl Dobbs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5651) (Log #W67) Paul Dober, Lwr. Sack ville, NS (Log #W3009) Barrett D. Cramer, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3507) James W Dolan, Sr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Darrel B Crane, San Bernardino County Professional Fire (Log #W5222) Fighters (Log #W216) Stephen Domanski, Clinton Twp Fire Rescue (Log #W6251) Jeffery Crawford, Dale City, VA (Log #W463) Ken Donechie, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Palm Jeffery Crawford, Prince William County (Log #W2308) Bch Co (Log #W338) James Crawford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert C Dooley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4958) (Log #W4982) Kevin M Crews, Sr., Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W6173) Richard C. Doppes, Jr., Cincinnati Fire Division E-19 Joseph Crnkovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5938) (Log #W5444) Don Dorsey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4218) Robert D Cromie, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James E Doucette, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W510) (Log #W5025) Charles Downer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Cross, Covington Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W360) (Log #W5309) Mike Crouse, IAFF Local F123 (Log #W2000) Mark Drinkut, Anderson Fire Dept (Log #W366) Dan Crow, Redlands Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W253) Thomas P Drudy, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David Crow, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4029) (Log #W6445) Michael Drury, Merrill Fire Fighters (Log #W315) John D. Crowley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Raymond H Ducover, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4931) (Log #W5013) Stephen J Cummings, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Duddy, Coquitlam Fire Rescue (Log #W150)

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Thomas M Duffola, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Timothy Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W3944) #W5291) Patrick Duffy, Oak Forest Fire Fighters Union (Log #W424) Pasquale Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Daniel Dugan, DC Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1670) #W4319) Tim Duncan, Clinton Twp Fire Dept (Log #W6263) Michael G. Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Ronald D Dunfield, City of Jackson Fire Fighters (Log #W579) #W4367) Stephen L Dunham, Tulsa Fire Dept/Rep. Local 176 James R. Ford, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W56) (Log #W3506) James E. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5400) Terry Dunne, Peoria Fire Department (Log #W1598) Thomas F. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Mike Durkin, Youngstown Fire (Log #W347) #W5453) Steve A Durkit, Coyahoga Falls Fire Dept (Log #W368) Don Forrest, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W329) Barry Dutton, Bismark Fire Department Local 2468 Dallas Fortney, Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3493) (Log #W2228) James A Fossos, Seattle Fire Dept (Log #W493) Thomas J. Dutton, P.G. County MD (Log #W5854) Billy A Foster, Memphis Fire Dept (Log #W406) Thomas A Early, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerald P. Fox, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log (Log #W4754) #W3836) Carl L Eastham, Huntington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log Paul E Fredrica, Racine, WI (Log #W251) #W388) Greg Frieders, Aurora Fire Fighters (Log #W304) Gary W. Edge, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W96) Carl Fritz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4523) Patrick Eggleston, Binghamton, NY (Log #W522) Guy Fujio, Honolulu Fire Dept (Log #W517) Art Eichenberger, Wheaton Fire Fighters Union (Log #W456) Mark Fuller, North Kansas Fire Fighters (Log #W564) John Eisel, Violet Twp Fire Dept (Log #W484) Richard T Furlong, Harvey Fire Dept (Log #W479) Francis Elder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5549) Mike Gabriel, Dubuque Fire Fighters (Log #W212) Daniel A. Elias, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas M. Gabriel, Miami Assocation of Fire Fighters local 587 (Log #W5436) (Log #W1940) John M Elliott, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Bradley P Gaiser, Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc of Scarsdale (Log #W3720) (Log #W468) Robert B Ellis, Tulsa Fire Department E 24C/Rep. Tulsa Fire James T Galvin, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W330) Department (Log #W3483) Thomas Ganiere, /Rep. Ottawa Fire Fighters Local 523 (Log James M. Ellis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W2102) (Log #W5470) Kenneth Gann, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3490) Oscar M Elmasian, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W537) Tom Gardner, Sacramento, CA (Log #W269) Paul Elmendorf, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W466) Gerald W. Garrett, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3502) Frank Emiliano, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Roger Garver, Eugene, OR (Log #W394) (Log #W411) Mark P Garvey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log Dave Engler, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W416) #W3770) Thomas English, San Bernandino City Professional Fire Fighters Joseph A. Garzone II, E-13 (Log #W3463) Assn (Log #W265) Mark Gasiorowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Lisa Epps, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4479) #W5423) Dennis Eulberg, North Metro Professional Fire Fighters Phillip Gauer, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W573) (Log #W254) Gerald P Gay, Sanford Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1733) Timothy J Evangelista, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Melvin S Gay, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5261) #W5180) Mark Gehri, City of Bedford Hts Fire Dept (Log #W430) Adam Evans, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log Stan George, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W193) #W6450) Brian George, London Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W439) Thomas M. Fahringer, Torrance Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1138 Jerome Ghafoor, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2210) (Log #W5621) John M. Fanelli, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log David E. Gibson, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc Local 58 #W5381) (Log #W2068) Lt. Edmund Farley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Don R. Gibson, E-13 C Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3466) #W4916) John Gilleran, IAFF Local 3177 (Log #W2126) Dale Farrell, Saskatoon, SK (Log #W296) David W Gillotte, LA County Fire Fighters Local 1014 Richard Farrell, Victoria Fire Fighters Local 730 (Log #W3516) (Log #W570) Darlene Faulconer, Montgomery County Career Fire Fighters Joseph J. Giorgianni, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Assn (Log #W1688) (Log #W4307) Robert K Faurot, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W514) Michael Glaser, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Christopher Favia, /Rep. Highland Park Fire Department (Log (Log #W4095) #W3437) Alfred Q. Glaze, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Feeney, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 (Log (Log #W4729) #W2198) Chuck Glines, Vondenberg Fire, Local F116 (Log #W1970) Richard A. Fehl, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Jerome J Gnipp, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters #W4629) (Log #W3695) Michael S. Ferke, Scranton Fire Fighters (Log #W1642) C.D. Golden, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3472) Kristine Ferreira, Upper Marlboro, MD (Log #W6239) Henry J Goliat, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James C. Ferris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W5285) #W3655) Greg Gollner, Greenfield, Wi (Log #W316) James R Fiering, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log John A. Gombita, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W4086) (Log #W5488) Larry Fierro, LA City Fire (Log #W327) Antonio Gomes, Easton Fire Dept (Log #W1796) Barry Fitz, Fire Fighters Local 413 (Log #W339) Freddie Gonzales, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W5071) #W5417) Doug A. Goodman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John T Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W5121) #W4829) William Michael Gorham, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Fitzsimmons, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log (Log #W5243) #W293) Michael Gorizre, Associated Fire Fighters Matteson (Log #W497) Dean Fletcher, IAFF Local 1285 (Log #W228) Jeff Gottbreht, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W399) Chris M. Flora, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log John P. Gourley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W5303) (Log #W4295) Bill Floyd, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5814) Richard Greene, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard F Foerch, Woodbridge Fire Dept (Log #W267) (Log #W3791) Patrick T Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log David Greenwood, Birmingham Fire Dept (Log #W480) #W4060) David G Gregorich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters

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(Log #W4819) (Log #W3710) Vincent Griffin, Oaklawn, IL (Log #W1887) Brian K Hishinuma, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W332) Ryan M. Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ron Hittle, Stockton Fire Department (Log #W2186) (Log #W4580) Mark Hoffmann, Oakland Fire Dept (Log #W496) Sean Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5736) Paul Hogan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5669) Robert W Griffiths, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Hogelin, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W400) (Log #W4600) Mark Hogrebe, Allen Park Fire Dept (Log #W426) Sandra Grubb, PGFD (Log #W6179) Toussaint M Holland, Fairfax County (Log #W6155) Gerald E. Grunert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William G Hollander, Kansas City KS Fire Dept (Log #W326) (Log #W4610) Jim Holmes, London Professional Fire Fighters Assn Donald J. Guckert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W536) (Log #W5832) Paul R Holmquist, Yarmouth Permanent Fire Fighters David Gulick, Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6100) (Log #W550) Robert L Gutierrez, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn Gary Homberg, Kankakee Fir Fighters Local 653 (Log #W2785) (Log #W6441) Rick Honsberger, Thorold Professional Fire Fighters Troy Haase, Fondulac Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W311) (Log #W1807) Ryan T. Haid, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5561) Eric V Hopp, Elgin, IL (Log #W346) Walter R. Haig, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters E. J. Horney, Yonkers, NY (Log #W1604) (Log #W4219) Leo Horton, S Lake Tahoe, CA (Log #W549) Rieck Hairston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy R. Hottenfeller, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3819) (Log #W5482) Mark S Hall, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W407) Dennis Howard, City of Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W153) B R Hall, Nashville Fire Fighters (Log #W558) William A Howe, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W476) Robert Hall, Vancouver Fire & Rescue local 18 (Log #W2090) Paul Hoy, Torrance Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W308) Dale A. Hall, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5500) Gerry Huger, /Rep. Sask. Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. John Halsey, CSPFFA (Log #W556) (Log #W1758) Robert M Halston, Egelston Professional Fire Fighters Union Bobby G. Humphryes, Birmingham Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 3901 (Log #W1952) 117 (Log #W1964) Ian Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Guy D. Hunter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W297) #W5394) Keith Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Greta J. Hurt, Tulsa Fire Department Engine 1 "C" Platoon/Rep. (Log #W2156) Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3475) Thomas Hanify, Indianapolis Fire Fighter Union (Log #W369) Tom Huston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4373) John F. Hanley, Local 798 (Log #W1786) Brad Hutchings, North Hampton Fire & Rescue (Log #W1781) Lance Hanson, Eau Claire Fire Fighters (Log #W314) Joseph C. Imburgia, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Eugene A. Harnish, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5784) (Log #W3937) Stanley W. Ingle, Knoxville Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W2335) Dwight R. Harper, Tulsa Fire Dept E-1-C/Rep. Tulsa Fire Dept Dennis E. Isaac, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 (Log #W3478) (Log #W2037) James C. Harrison, City of Tulsa Fire Department/Rep. Tulsa Russell Jack, Everett Fire Department (Log #W1461) Local 176 (Log #W3501) Shawn R Jackson, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1748) Larry J Hartley, Marion City Fire Dept (Log #W578) Brian K. Jackson, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Hassinger, Bucyrus Fire Fighters (Log #W359) (Log #W3774) Charles C Hawkins, Jr, Seattle Fire Fighters Union (Log #W450) Carl Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4042) Michael P Hawkins, Shaker Hts Fire Dept (Log #W574) Kevin Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Tim Healy, City of Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W321) (Log #W4237) Alan Hefter (Log #West Bend Fire Fighters (Log #W305) Philip Jandrokovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steve Heim, Lincoln Park Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W348) (Log #W4151) Rod Heivilir, Shoreline Fire Fighters (Log #W403) Randy T Jankowski, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David L. Helbling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3792) (Log #W4343) Joseph J Janosko, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul W Helms, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4868) (Log #W4947) Roger C Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Michael Hemphill, Bogalusa Fire Fighters (Log #W336) (Log #W4157) Ian R Henis, Vancouver Fire & Rescue Service (Log #W300) Vince Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Henning, Fire Fighters Local 63 (Log #W344) (Log #W5082) Sheldon J. Henry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ralph Jedd, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4077) (Log #W5844) Richard Jock, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4527) Allen Henson, Littleton Fire Fighters Local 2086 (Log #W2216) James Johnson, IAFF Local F-88 (Log #W177) Thomas Herak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeff Johnson, Oshkosh Fire Dept (Log #W205) (Log #W4246) Jay Johnson, San Mateo County FF (Log #W521) James A. Herbst, Great Lakes Fire Department Local F37 Randy Johnson, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W1718) (Log #W1922) Robert W. Johnson, Harwich Fire Department Local 2124 Donald Heritage, Joplin, MO (Log #W475) (Log #W2025) Aaron Herschman, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Co. 49 Shana Johnson, Rescus 14 Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W6137) (Log #W5944) Mark Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4414) J E Jones, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W299) Al Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5297) Fletcher Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary W. Hickey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4538) (Log #W5699) David W. Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fred Higgins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4462) (Log #W5838) David L. Higgs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joel C Jones, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4767) (Log #W6448) Stephen P. Hill, Atlanta Professional Fire Fighers (Log #W190) Timothy J. Joyce, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Damon T. HIll, Sr., PGH Professional Fire Fighters/Rep. (Log #W5530) Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6484) William F. Juergen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Barry Hilling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4880) (Log #W5512) Nick Hillner, Whichita Falls, TX (Log #W225) Randall Jute, Lake Worth, FL (Log #W459) Larry Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3985) Gregg P Kadow, Manitowoc Professional Fire Fighters Mark Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4897) (Log #W323) Rick Hinchcliffe, Greeley-Union Coloney Fire Rescue Auth Fred P Kaeberlein, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W231) (Log #W280) Emily Kane, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W192) Gerald Hirschfeld, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Emily Kane, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W461)

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Tom Karnas, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4163) (Log #W298) Varnell Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5663) Michael Kartsinger, Louisville Fire Fighters (Log #W434) William R Ley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4560) John Kastran, Farmington Hills Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W287) Mark Liberator, Canton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W361) William G Kauahikaua, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W520) Bruce Linner, BC-5 Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Keefe, Newark Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W376) (Log #W4657) Glenn Keiffer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Tim Littlefield, Algonquin Lake In The Hill Fire Fighters Union (Log #W3760) (Log #W1677) Francis D Kelly, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W277) Bob Livingston, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council Michael A Kelly, Livonia Fire Fighters (Log #W303) (Log #W1776) Michael T. Kelly, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Locnikar, Fargo Fire (Log #W271) (Log #W4509) Terry Loehrer, St. Louis Co. Fire Fighters (Log #W274) Jeff Kemp, Richmond Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W533) Matt Loewen, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W324) Francis Kennedy Jr., Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W418) Paul Lombardo, Lahabra Fire Fighters (Log #W501) Robert J. Kerestes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steve Long, KCK Fire Dept (Log #W208) (Log #W5090) Larry G Long, Stockton Fire Dept (Log #W252) Timothy Kernan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin R. Long, Mashpee Fire Fighters Local 2519 (Log #W2246) (Log #W5136) Robert Losket, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4993) Joe Kerr, Orange County Fire Authority (Log #W249) Robert F Lostetter, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Maureen Kerrigan, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5156) (Log #W4020) Tom Lovell, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W223) Robert E Kiefer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Craig W Lowe, City of Santa Rosa Fire Dept (Log #W504) (Log #W4682) Gregory A Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey M Kihune, Maui Fire Dept (Log #W516) (Log #W4581) Patrick Kilbane, Janesville Fire Fighters (Log #W544) Richard E Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph J. Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5119) (Log #W4397) Stephen Ludmann, Blue Ash Fire Fighters (Log #W279) David Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5006) Mark D. Lundy, City of Worthington Division of Fire & EMS (Log Michael T. King, Fairfax County (Log #W6149) #W2168) Stephen J Kinneavy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert G Luther, Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W309) (Log #W4693) James L Luttrell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W262) James M. Kirby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Lyman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5591) (Log #W4622) Stephen C. Klein, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Lyons, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4200) (Log #W4337) Joseph F. Machovec, Baltimore City Fire Officers Assoc Robert Knerr, Navsta Ingleside Fire Dept (Log #W483) (Log #W1578) Charles Koelker, Cumberland, MD (Log #W548) Richard Macklin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul C. Konarowski, Oshawa FireFighters Assocation (Log #W5411) (Log #W50) J Macleod, Van Fire & Rescue (Log #W282) Gerald Kosaki, Hawaii Fire Dept (Log #W518) Robert G. MacMaster, Augusta Uniformed Fire Fighters John F. Kramer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Association (Log #W2019) (Log #W5388) Joseph Magliocca, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John J Kreger, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5273) (Log #W5267) Norman Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael F Magnan, Woonsocket Fire Dept (Log #W1791) (Log #W3816) Elmer Mahaffy, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W6061) Alan Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5711) Roger J Maher, III, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Kruger, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W276) (Log #W4777) Brian J. Krull, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5603) Chris Mahon, Ventura Co. Fire (Log #W240) Jay Kunkel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5555) Thomas Makar, Wilkes-Barre Fire Fighters (Log #W553) Elizabeth C Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters William Malone, Greenburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W465) (Log #W3732) David Manfredo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David H Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4569) (Log #W4283) Thomas R La montagne, Portsmouth Fire Dept (Log #W1703) Kelly Mannion, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John P Labishak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3914) (Log #W3899) Brian K Manship, Selma, IN (Log #W365) Ed Lacombe, New Bedford MA (Log #W5866) Kevin Manson, Jr., West Hartford Fire Dept. (Log #W5920) Geoff Lake, Richmond Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W429) Brian Markewinski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Lang, Professional Fire Fighters of Hampton (Log #W233) (Log #W4420) Leonard K. Lang, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg B Markley, Kent Fire Fighters (Log #W1728) (Log #W5790) John A Marks, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 Brian F Lange, Dekalb Fire Fighters (Log #W337) (Log #W210) George Lange, City of Strongsville (Log #W525) Michael J. Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas W Larbig, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3663) (Log #W4229) William Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Latta, OCPFA Local 3631 (Log #W234) (Log #W3863) William J. Lawrence, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Art Marshall, Santa Clara County Fire Fighters (Log #W494) (Log #W4450) Wiliam Martin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Todd J Lealue, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4879) (Log #W260) Elmer Martinez, Pocatello Fire Fighters (Log #W220) Fred LeBlanc, Kingston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Patrick Martyn, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W576) (Log #W523) Robert H Lee, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W519) Art Martynuska, Johnstown Fire Fighters (Log #W512) James P Lee, Whitpain Fire Dept (Log #W559) Keith O Mary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5279) Al Leier, Prince George Fire Fighters Union (Log #W294) Thomas M Marzheuser, Cincinnati Fire Dept (Log #W527) Jordan M Lemieux, Holyoke Fire Dept (Log #W398) Mike Massone, San Diego Federal Fire Fighters (Log #W78) Charles J Lenz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard V. Mastandrea, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4591) (Log #W4778) W James Leve, Portage Fire Fighters (Log #W377) Mark A. Mastison, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Mark T. Lewandowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1904) (Log #W4116) Jim Matthews, Engine #2 West Hartford CT (Log #W5914) David J. Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Matuszewski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3752) (Log #W4942) Charles L Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Alexander Maxwell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters

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(Log #W5005) Rick Moore, Fire Fighters Association Local 36/Rep. District of Frederick H. Mays, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Columbia Fire Fighters (Log #W1455) (Log #W5778) Jeremy K. Moore, Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3492) William F Mazon, III, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Travis O. Moore, San Antonio Fire Dept. (Log #W5902) (Log #W3864) Kevin R Morgan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Lawrence Mazza, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W5237) (Log #W5333) Chris Morlan, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6215) Daniel R McCarthy, Los Angeles City Fire Dept (Log #W334) Jeff Morris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5210) Terrence L McCarthy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey A Morrow, Taylor Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W302) (Log #W4975) Dennis Moseby, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3496) Mark McCormick, Santa Rosa Fire Fighters (Log #W464) Donald R. Moses, McDonough, GA (Log #W2144) Roy McDonald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Leo Mostyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4277) (Log #W3669) Michael J. Mullen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Timothy T McDonnell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Professional #W4301) Fire Fighters (Log #W370) Rodney Mullinay, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3499) John McDonough, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Warren R Muncy, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log (Log #W5228) #W6443) David M. McEndoo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Adrian Munday, Fairfax, VA (Log #W408) (Log #W4898) Victor D Muto, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log John A McGee, Manchester PFF (Log #W541) #W5109) R L McGhee, IAFF Local 176 (Log #W1738) Phillip Myers, Park Forest Fire Fighers Assoc (Log #W2174) Richard L. McGrail, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lawrence A Naddy, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of (Log #W5327) Palm Bch Co (Log #W345) Saly Ann McGrew, Tulsa Fire Deptartment (Log #W3470) Tom Neal, St. Cloud Fire Dept (Log #W551) Harry C McIntyre, Greensboro, NC (Log #W543) James Nedwidek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log David McIntyre, Clinton Township Fire Department Local 1381 #W3951) (Log #W2270) Greg Neeley, Tulsa Fire Fighter Local 176/Rep. Tulsa Fire Dennis McKnight, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Department (Log #W3484) (Log #W4722) Fernando Negrete, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 (Log Kevin McLarty, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3485) #W2192) J. David McLean, Dover Fire Officers (Log #W185) Michael G. Neibauer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Edgar W McLean, Burlington Fire Dept (Log #W454) #W4349) Michael McMahon, Hampton, NH (Log #W486) Douglas H Neil, Great Falls Fire/Rescue (Log #W396) Mike McManus, Binghamton, NY (Log #W587) Dan A Neill, City of Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W214) Darren M McNeil, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward A Nemeth, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W435) (Log #W5249) Tony Neratini, Vancouver Fire Rescue Services (Log #W534) Pat McOsker, UFLA C (Log #W333) Jeff Nester, Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W530) Mike McOsker, United Fire Fighters of Los Angeles (Log #W495) Larry J. McPhail, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log Donald E. Newham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W5723) (Log #W5139) Larry M. McQuay, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3465) Les Newman, Thunder Bay Professional Fire Fighters Assn William J McQuillen, Portsmouth Fire Fighters Assn (Log (Log #W477) #W241) Chris J Nickoloff, South Metro Professional Fire Fighters Greg Meadows, Tulsa Fire (Log #W3459) (Log #W352) James W Meinzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log David J Nicotra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W4924) (Log #W4497) Alan Menillo, Fainfield Fire Fighters (Log #W458) Thomas J. Niemiec, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Meringer, Oshawa Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W284) (Log #W4716) Joe Merritt, Fairfax Fire Rescue FS 18 (Log #W6079) John R Niemiec, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Donald Messier, Somersworth, NH (Log #W288) (Log #W6269) Don Mette, Sacramento Metro Fire Dist (Log #W511) Scott Nishisaka, Burbank Fire Fighters (Log #W447) Rick Michael, West Chicago, IL (Log #W246) Michael H. Nolf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert W. Michel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W4438) #W5609) Stephen E Norris, LA City Fire (Log #W328) James H Miller, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W196) Ronald F. Novak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey A Miller, Town of Beloit Fire Dept (Log #W320) (Log #W3911) Chris Miller, Dehli Township Fire Dept (Log #W364) Hector Nunez, Tyler Fire Department/Rep. Tyler Professional Terry M Miller, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W102) #W6442) Christopher L Nye, Sylvania Fire Fighters (Log #W356) Michael R. Milligan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log David O’Leary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W5321) (Log #W5748) Reuben M. Millsaps, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W90) Ken O’Mortua, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W270) Michael E Minton, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log Michael P. O’Neill, Fort Belvoir Professional FF (Log #W187) #W488) Jimmy Ober, Engine 1 C Platoon/Rep. Tulsa Fire Dept William Mirt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5730) (Log #W3477) John Misencik, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Perry Oldenburg, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W401) #W4735) Walter T. Oldham, Memphis Fire Department local 1784 Erwin Miske, City of Rocky River (Log #W428) (Log #W1994) Barry Misley, Miami Township Fire & EMS (Log #W363) Charles Oleary, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Kenneth Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log (Log #W4176) #W4194) Donald R Olguin, Boulder Fire Fighters (Log #W490) Christopher Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Gordon Olson, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1723) #W5476) Leonard Orlando, Green Bay Fire Department Local 141 Leroy Mobley, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W2266) #W5627) James Orton, Vaughan Fire Fighters Local 1595 (Log #W2497) Thomas J. Moffitt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Charles A. Ossler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W4676) (Log #W3718) Paul Mogavero, Toronto Fire Service (Log #W291) Mark Ouellette, Professional Fire Fighters of NH (Log #W198) Paul Molkenbuhr, Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Dept (Log #W575) Raymond M Palczynski, DAPFF (Log #W404) Jay Montenbrey, IAFF Local 2915 (Log #W2013) Donald J. Palmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Montoya, Los Angeles County Fire Fighters (Log #W264) (Log #W4355) Gregory M Mooney, Massport Fire Fighters (Log #W555) Richard T Paltaut, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W467) Brian Moore, Vacaville Fire Fighters (Log #W227) David J Panchura, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters

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(Log #W3955) Mark Reed, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn Greg Parker, San Bernandino City Fire Fighters (Log #W489) (Log #W414) Bill Parlow, Brockton Fire Fighters (Log #W421) Michael L Reed, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W572) Hugo Patino, Modesto City Fire Fighters (Log #W500) Michael Reeves, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Rick Patterson, Prince George’s County (Log #W6125) (Log #W375) Richard H Pattison, Houston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Jim Reidy, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1713) (Log #W581) Rickie Paul, Norwood Fire Dept (Log #W485) Thomas A. Reinheimer, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Daniel Pease, Local 822 (Log #W3445) (Log #W5023) Christopher M Pedrotty, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5192) Larry A Rekasie, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeffry M. Pegg, Local 344 (Log #W6143) (Log #W4044) Mathew E Penderson, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3508) John Remillard, Norristown, PA (Log #W235) Greg Perdue, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5063) Steven W Repp, IAFF Local 1773 (Log #W199) James M Perkins, City of Bradford (Log #W211) Mark Rhame, Orange Conty Fire Rescue (Log #W1801) Lawrence Perkins, Seabrook Professional Fire Fighters Mike Rhyner, Tucson Fire Fighter (Log #W566) (Log #W226) Brian K Rice, Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District Rard Perkins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4251) (Log #W272) Tracy L. Perrin, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3509) Michael Richards, Poquonnock Bridge Professional Fire Fighters James Perrott, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5216) Assn (Log #W526) Frank R. Perry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy Richardson, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5369) (Log #W247) Robert F Pesa, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4808) Burnise Ray Richardson, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters William Peterson, Coon Rapids Fire Dept (Log #W503) Assn (Log #W6444) Thomas Petronio, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Alec Riderer, E5A/Rep. Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3476) (Log #W4911) Cecil D Ridge, Modesto Fire Fighters (Log #W583) Donald W Petschke, Buffalo Fire Dept (Log #W562) Jon Riley, Vallejo Fire Dept (Log #W507) Earnest R. Pettre, Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3494) Clifton Rineheart, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6227) Billy C. Petty, Mesquite FireFighters Assoc (Log #W7) Edward Riveros, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W331) Mike Pfeiffer, Whitby Professional Fire Fighters Assocation Keith Roach, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4747) (Log #W159) Scotty Roberts, Henrico Co Fire (Log #W204) Dennis Phillips, Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W213) J.L. Roberts, Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3487) Ron Phillips, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1487 Robert L Robertson, DeKalb County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2162) (Log #W2150) Frank Pierce, Shelby Twp Fire Dept (Log #W433) James Robinson, Clayton County Professional Fire Fighters Gregory Pietras, Chicopee Fire Fighters (Log #W415) (Log #W120) Larry Pilcorc, Hanover Pack Professional Fire Fighters John T Robinson, Newport Professional Fire Fighters Union (Log #W448) (Log #W577) Michael R. Pinkham, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2796) Jack R. Robinson, City of Tulsa Fire Department (Log #W3497) John A. Piotrowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lester A Robinson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3973) (Log #W4188) Joseph Piro, Easton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W460) Thomas J. Robinson, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Jason Plogmann, Cincinnati Fire Division - D3 (Log #W6037) (Log #W6131) Jerry Pobicki, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3777) Brian Roeder, New Westminster Fire & Rescue (Log #W443) H. John Powell, Haverhill Fire Fighters (Log #W230) Scott A Rogers, West Metro Fire Fighters (Log #W218) R.D. Powell, T.F.D. E-1 (Log #W3461) John H Rogers, Green Bay Fire Fighters (Log #W317) James L Powers, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jack A Rogers, Fire Dept (Log #W341) (Log #W3822) Darryl Ross, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5760) Monte W. Prasin, Decatur, IL (Log #W84) Daniel M Ross, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6245) Douglas J. Praskovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Neil Rothhaupt, IAFF Local F-170 (Log #W1976) (Log #W5579) Denton Rourke, Prince Georges County MD Fire/EMS Kenneth Pravetz, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W203) (Log #W5896) Daniel H Preston, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn Paul Routon, Louisville Fire Fighters (Log #W354) (Log #W266) Wayne E. Royster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Damon Price, Fairfax Co. Fire & Rescue (Log #W5872) (Log #W4994) Christopher D. Prickett, Dekalb Professional Fire Fighters local Kenneth Ruckel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters 1492 (Log #W1934) (Log #W4133) Tommy K. Propst, Orange County Fire & Rescue, Local 2057 Barry Rudy, IAFF F-221 (Log #W144) (Log #W2132) Roger Rupp, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W584) Michael Pudup, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward E Ryan, III, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W417) (Log #W4564) Ohl Sabi, Watertown Fire Fighters (Log #W498) Luis Puentes, East Moline, IL (Log #W444) Edwin R Salinetro, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin Quinn, Elk Grove Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4906) (Log #W481) Victor M Salis, Hawaii County Fire Dept (Log #W513) Michael Quinn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary W. Samuels, Henrico Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4700) (Log #W186) David A Rabb, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Kenneth A Samuels, Kansas City Fire Dept (Log #W1693) (Log #W4182) Scott W. Sanders, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frank P Raffa, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W420) (Log #W4832) Ray Rahne, Colorado Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W419) Martin W. Sanders, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters J.A. Rains, Tulsa Fire Dept/E-1-A (Log #W3471) (Log #W5494) Robert A. Rajnovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas W Santaniello, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W391) (Log #W5339) John Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David A. Raleigh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4002) (Log #W4689) Thomas Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Rob Rankin, Local 1053 (Log #W2321) (Log #W4010) Norman D. Rathke, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald Santoriello, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5537) (Log #W4656) Jeffrey P Rawson, Washington, MA (Log #W290) Eric Sargent, CDF Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W255) Mark D. Rectenwald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard Sargent, Centerville-Osterville Fire Fighters Local 2346 (Log #W4954) (Log #W2252) Robert Redente, City of East Haven Local 1205 (Log #W2006) Robert Saros, Mishawaka Fire (Log #W438) Brian J Reed, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W405) Robert W Saunders, Orange County Fire Rescue (Log #W171)

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Anthony C Savino, Blue Island Professional Fire Fighters Michael Steinbaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W165) (Log #W4784) John R Sbonik, West Allis Fire Fighters (Log #W313) Kevin P Steiner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Robert H Scates, Chicago Fire Fighers Union (Log #W202) (Log #W3780) Kirk A. Schalau, Meridian Professional FF Assn (Log #W188) Edward J. Stengel, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Reid Scharding, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4839) (Log #W5077) David Stephenson, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Glen Scheid, E-31 L-31 (Log #W3503) Local 1487 (Log #W2056) Harry Scherer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4385) Eugene E. Stout, Muskegon Fire Fighters Local 370 Paul Schermann, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W380) (Log #W1946) Darren Schimke, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W221) Charles Stowell, Richmond (Log #W5908) Don Schleich, Washington Township Fire Department Local 3036 Ramey L. Strandler, E-7 C Tulsa Fire Dept. (Log #W3462) (Log #W2043) John G Strawn, Omaha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W453) Richard Schluderberg, Baltimore, MD (Log #W385) John Stringert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4325) Karl Schmaelzle, Feeding Hills, MA (Log #W382) Mark Stuart, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4491) Randy Schmelz, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn Edward Suchacek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W6447) (Log #W5518) William A Schmidt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Douglas P. Sudik, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W5162) (Log #W6055) Dale J. Schneider, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Don Suley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4705) (Log #W4236) James M Sullivan, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W392) Donald H. Schroeder, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters Robert C Sullivan, Harrisburg, PA (Log #W491) (Log #W2114) Michael Sullivan, Nashua Fire Fighters (Log #W3425) Michael J Schwarz, Lafayette Fire Dept (Log #W580) Ronald L Summers, Hamilton Fire Fighters (Log #W283) Thomas W Schweitzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Peter C Svoboda, Chesterfield Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5038) (Log #W217) Rick Scofield, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W197) David Sweetland, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Harold D Scoggines, Glendale Fire Fighters (Log #W547) (Log #W6275) Sam Scoles, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W258) Donald Swickline, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Scott, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W194) (Log #W4085) Robert D. Scott, Tulsa Fire (Log #W3464) Clarence L. Swindle, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steven D See, E-13 (Log #W3481) (Log #W5633) Mark S Selke, IAFF Local F-151 (Log #W1982) Stanley Szymanski, Wilmington DE (Log #W5884) Robert M. Seybold, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James T. Talak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4760) (Log #W4426) John L. Sharpe, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John A.E. Tanaka, Evertee Fire Department (Log #W1469) (Log #W3890) Patrick E. Shaw, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James C. Tarbert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5585) (Log #W5754) Dennis Shearn, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters James R. Taylor, City of Upper Arlington (Log #W30) (Log #W243) Ray Taylor, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn Paul Shively, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4139) (Log #W6446) Rachel Shoemaker, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3491) John F. Tekippe, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1655) Robert D Shuster, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Mark E Thomas, Orland Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W244) (Log #W3970) Ricky W. Thomas, (Log #W6457) William Sinagra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerard Thompson, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W5315) (Log #W108) Frank P. Sinatra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J Thompson, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5375) Assn (Log #W237) Joe Singer, Waco, TX (Log #W436) Kendall Thompson, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Dept FS24-C Terry Sivadon, Engine 5/Rep. Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3474) (Log #W5890) Craig S Slatcher, City of Wilmington, Ladder #1 (Log #W6185) Dean Thornberry, Brush Prairie, WA (Log #W469) Art Smith, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W236) Michael E Thorp, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W539) Jeff S. Smith, Tulsa Fire Dept (Log #W3500) James R Tobin, Newport Fire Dept (Log #W273) David B. Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gordon K K Tom, Honlulu Fire Dept (Ret) (Log #W515) (Log #W4456) George J. Tomasak, Luzerne County Professional Fire Fighters Michael G Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1648) (Log #W5204) James E. Toosan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George S Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5639) (Log #W5255) Rafael A. Torros, El Paso Assocation of Fire Fighters John Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5705) (Log #W126) Douglas M Smutzer, Rock Island Arsenal Professional Fire Robert D Townley, Jr, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn Fighters Assn (Log #W289) (Log #W6451) Rick Snodgrass, Lakewood Fire Dept (Log #W586) Scott E. Townsend, Freeport Fire Department Local 441 Gerald S. Snyder, Fort Drum Fire Department Local F 105 (Log #W2204) (Log #W1958) Mark Train, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log #W5717) John A. Snyder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tim Trantham, Tulsa Fire Dept/Rep. Fire Fighters Local 176 (Log #W3962) (Log #W3504) Michael Solida, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kimberly R. Trautman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5802) (Log #W4003) Troy D Sonichsen, Sioux City Fire Dept (Log #W567) Ronald A Truver, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Thomas B. Sowinski, City of Wilmington, DE (Log #W6073) #W5098) Douglas C Spence, Canton Fire Dept (Log #W422) Steven Turner, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1743) Howard T Stahl, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Dennis Tyler, Muncie Fire Fighters (Log #W367) (Log #W372) Thomas C Ullom, Westerville Division of Fire (Log #W425) Jay Stalcup, Lawrence Fire Dept (Log #W499) Ronald Ullrid, Port of Seattle Fire Dept (SEA-TAC Airport) Landon Stallings, Fort Worth Fire Dept, Station 3 (Log #W492) (Log #W201) George C Stanley, Redford Twp Fire Fighter Union (Log #W437) Keith Underwood, Springfield Fire Fighters Local 37 Brian Stark, Hamilton Professional FireFighters Assoc. (Log #W1444) (Log #W19) John Ungerman, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David Starofsky, City of Rock Dept (Log #W528) (Log #W6430) Larry L. Steel, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn Ben J Upton, Royal Dept (Log #W351) (Log #W3523) David Valego, Chicopee Fire (Log #W384)

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Albert M Valerioti, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W358) (Log #W5168) James Vannucchi, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W278) Jeffrey W Winters, Sioux Falls Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W307) Erik T. Vater, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4260) Larry Wishba, Orland Fire Fighters Local 2754 (Log #W1928) Thomas Veri, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4272) Jeffrey V Witmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Vietmeier, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4517) (Log #W3703) John W Witner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Johnny Villarreal, Houston Fire Department (Log #W114) (Log #W4115) Jeffrey Vogts, Prince Georges Co Fire EMS Dept (Log #W6203) Jeanette Woldseth, /Rep. Bellevue Fire Fighters IAFF local 1604 Gary L Vokovitch, Wauwatosa Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W565) (Log #W318) Bob Wolf, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W259) Richard Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael J Woodzicka, Appleton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4062) (Log #W310) Mark Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5693) Thomas J Wosko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David L Wade, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W6221) (Log #W5050) Greg Wagner, Brookfield Professional Fire Fighters Local 2051 Roger Wright, Tucson, AZ (Log #W386) (Log #W2222) Keith W Wright, Severna Park, MD (Log #W413) William P Wagner, II, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John J Wright, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3852) (Log #W3883) Kenneth A Wahlen, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Doug Wriston, Marin FF (Log #W472) (Log #W4104) Diane Wyman, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W585) Joe Walko, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W229) Troy L Wymer, Brewnsburg Fire Territory (Log #W371) Jeff Wallin, Moorhead Fire Fighters (Log #W215) James P. Wyzomirski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott P Walsh, East Pointe Fire Dept (Log #W531) (Log #W5543) John C. Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy L Yakich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4379) (Log #W4845) John P Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5198) Michael Yannuzzi, City of New Rochelle (Log #W3457) Stanley J Walter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Yobbi, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4647) (Log #W5128) V Stephen Yocham, Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W138) Gary E. Walz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5567) Lester Yon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5461) Joseph G Ward, Chestnut Hill, MA (Log #W455) Bob York, Wichita, TX (Log #W224) Michael Darren Ward, Engine Company 24 Tulsa Fire Jim Young, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W423) Department (Log #W3510) Russell Young, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4408) Stephen Warner, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W471) Joe Youngblood, Tulsa Fire Dept/Rep. Fire Fighters Local 176 James Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3505) (Log #W4203) Daniel H Zahn, Sterling Fire Dept (Log #W542) Donald Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David A. Zapf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5357) (Log #W4753) Chris Wathen, Local 3217 (Log #W568) Bruce D Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frank T Watts, Amarillo Fire Dept (Log #W343) (Log #W5084) Douglas W. Watts, Monmouth Fire Department Local 1702 Michael Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2062) (Log #W5796) Woodrow E. Webb, Williamsburg Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 (Log #W1664) RECOMMENDATION: Accept the entire document as Raymond C Webber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters proposed. (Log #W4934) SUBSTANTIATION: On behalf of the 110 members of IAFF Jeffrey A Weidner, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters Local 505 located in Decatur, Illinois we strongly support NFPA’s (Log #W325) benchmarks for deployment, staffing and response times since David Weisenberg, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W379) they were developed using good fire science. Basing the David A Wells, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W390) benchmarks on fire propagation curves and minimum fire August Werner, Belleville Fire Fighters (Log #W445) ground tasks that must be completed at virtually every fire makes Pat West, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W1683) this standard applicable to large and small fire departments all Timothy Westwood, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters over the world. (Log #W4851) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. Buddy Wheatley, Covington Professional Fire Fighters COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees with the (Log #W355) substantiation provided by the submitter regarding the Terence M White, Prince Georges County Fire/EMS Dept importance of this standard for career fire departments. However, (Log #W3677) the committee has made some changes in the document based Harold E. White, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters on comments provided by other submitters. Accordingly, the (Log #W3740) committee is accepting the spirit of this comment and hopes that William M. White, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters the submitter will agree with the wording of the final document. (Log #W5820) Alvin White, Houston Fire Dept. (Log #W5926) ______Steven E. White, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W6049) Bruce Whiteside, Waterford Professional Fire Fighters (Log #2) (Log #W301) 1710- 13 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle Richard Wiegand, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Durbin, Decatur, IL (Log #W5766) Stephen Adamczyk, Grand Rapids Fire Fighters (Log #W891) Frederick B Wier, Wellesley, MA (Log #W383) Scott B. Adams, Markham Fire Department (Log #W1753) Steve Wilding, Oak Fighters (Log #W245) Frank Adams, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Gary H Wilds, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3540) (Log #W3935) Thomas W Adler, Norfolk, VA (Log #W610) Russell Wilkerson, Little Rock Fire Fighters (Log #W560) Don Adsit, Sterling Hts Fire (Log #W6258) James D Williams, Amarillo Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W342) John M. Agnole, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steven D Williams, Houston PFFA (Log #W538) (Log #W4445) Robert Williams, Scranton Fire (Log #W1607) Jim Ahl, Kern County Fire Fighters (Log #W732) John M. Williams, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1661) Jeff Aho, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/E64/Rep. Tualatin Valley Vaughn T Williams, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3613) (Log #W4169) David Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5014) Scot A. Williams, Prince George’s County Fire/EMS Terri Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5743) (Log #W6119) Allen R. Airesman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald Wilson, Boone, IA (Log #W248) (Log #W5507) Aaron L Winslow, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Akins, Fulton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2181)

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Richard Alarcan, Orange City Fire Fighters (Log #W654) Paul J. Bell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4888) Scott Alday, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2801) Mark P. Benko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Alden Strain, P. G. Fire Dept. (Log #W6044) (Log #W3904) William M. Alexander, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Benson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4824) (Log #W5646) James H Alfred, III, Prince Georges Co. Fire Dept Wayne G. Bernoska, Seminole County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6198) (Log #W2139) Tyrone Allen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5773) Robert Bertero, Berkeley Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W671) Penny Allen, P.G. County MD (Log #W5861) Scott Bethke, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Sean Alliger, Howard County Fire Rescue (Log #W6168) Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3632) David Allmon, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W703) David J. Beyer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Cary Altadonna, Centralia Fire Fighters (Log #W778) (Log #W5110) Esteban S Alvarado, East Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W784) Thomas R. Bichler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark J Ambrose, Utica Fire Dept (Log #W1064) (Log #W4810) Adrian Anderson, San Mateo County Fire Fighers (Log #W939) David Bickford, Bangor Fire Fighters Assoc Local 772 David R. Anderson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2241) (Log #W4362) Tony Biekmore, (Log #W825) Mark Andre, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters William T. Biggs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3533) (Log #W5598) Henry Annen, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Robert Bittikifer, Detroit (Log #W6162) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3550) Grant Blake, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local 2073 Bruce Ansell, Bellevue, WA (Log #W944) (Log #W2081) Joseph J. Arnold, Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W2121) Clay A. Blake, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Ross Arnold, Sgt 62 1660/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional (Log #W3538) Firefighters Union (Log #W3600) Ken Blanton, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W680) John R Arnold, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Al Blodgett, Newberg Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley (Log #W4171) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3563) Bob Arzaue, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W697) Richard Blohm, Hoboken Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley Steven D Ashe, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3644) (Log #W3807) Michael Boback, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David Atkin, San Ramon Valley Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W985) (Log #W3876) David Atkin, San Ramon Valley Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2559) Ronald J. Bodnar, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Atkinson, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4597) (Log #W711) Steven W Bogard, Evansville Professional Fire Fighters Daniel G. Atkison, E-33A/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional (Log #W708) Firefighters Union (Log #W3604) Jose Bolanos, City of Vacaville (Log #W1009) Robert Aubrey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard J. Bon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3679) (Log #W5676) Joey Duwayne Avila, Salem Fire Dept (Log #W960) Mike Bonham, Sacramento CA FF (Log #W1088) John Axell, E-51/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Christopher R. Booz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3631) (Log #W5809) Kelly Bach, Tualatin Valley Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1771) Kenneth D. Boozer, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local Jack Ballinger, IAFF Local 754 (Log #W2032) 2073 (Log #W2075) Steve Balsiger, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Richard C Bordley, Livermore Pleasanton Fire Dept Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3590) (Log #W686) Thomas R. Baltos, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George M Borek, Jersey City Fire Dept (Log #W978) (Log #W4026) John W. Bossard, Clarkesville Fire Department (Log #W74) Robert Balzer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Steven Boughey, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4038) (Log #W3549) David K. Banjanin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Doug Bouvy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4128) (Log #W6452) Duane L Bowen, Alt Springs Professional Fire Fighters Robert T. Bankert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W714) (Log #W5525) Paul Boyle, /Rep. Halifax Fire Fighters (Log #W1765) Richard Banske, Calumet City Fire Dept (Log #W948) Bret Boysen, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/E64/Rep. Tualatin Chris Barden, Riverside City Fire Fighters (Log #W691) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3611) Scott Barratt, Escondido Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1053) Charles Brace, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4290) Raymond L. Barringer, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott Brady, Hartford Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W925) (Log #W3927) Robert L Bragg, Charlottesville Fire Fighters (Log #W1044) Mark J. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3843) Anthony C. Brahler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William F. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4314) (Log #W4640) Jean Brassard, Manchester Fire Dept (Log #W1699) Ronald H Bartolowits, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Craig Braswell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W982) (Log #W4503) Steve Braun, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2812) Kenneth C Barton, Lancaster Bureau of Fire (Log #W924) William Brennan, /Rep. Highland Park Fire Department Darwin Base, Oxnard City Fire (Log #W660) (Log #W3438) Greg Bass, Bellingham, WA (Log #W931) John Brennan, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary Batch, City of New London (Log #W133) (Log #W5346) Bruce Bateson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert F. Brett, British Columbia Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4869) Assoc (Log #W1989) Raymond T. Batico, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dean Brewer (Log #Waukesha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4669) (Log #W743) Jeff Baugrud, Racine, WI (Log #W920) Bob Briare, Marin FF (Log #W943) Bruce Baurichter, Tacoma Professional Fire Fighters Walter S. Bricker , Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1032) (Log #W4073) Joseph W Bayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Bridle, Hampton Fire (Log #W664) (Log #W4799) Eddie J. Brooks, Peoria Fire Department Station #10 James Bayster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4742) (Log #W1593) Ronald D Beaman, Richmond Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W895) Paul Brown, Big Spring Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. John L. Beardmore, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W39) (Log #W6068) Jim Brown, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Frank R Becker, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3579) (Log #W4552) Glen T. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian Belitsky, Yorkton, SK (Log #W707) (Log #W3733)

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George R. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5037) (Log #W5056) William Clifford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lloyd J. Browning, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4617) (Log #W5430) James C Clifton, Salem Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W813) Michael J. Brozovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pat Clinch, Helena, MT (Log #W819) (Log #W3650) Michael C Cobb, Warwick Fire Dept (Log #W965) Richard L. Brutt , Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dan E Cochran, Coenr d’Alene Fire Dept (Log #W618) (Log #W5574) William T Cochran, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W801) Tad W. Buckingham, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Bill Coennen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3884) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3580) William H Coker, IV, SQuirt 61 (Log #W4639) Thomas A Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Bill Cole, Ottawa Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Local 162 (Log #W3747) (Log #W2050) Joe Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3926) Charles Coleman, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W673) Mike Buehler, DFFA (Log #W908) Andrew Collins, Colorado Springs Professional Fire Fighters Kenneth J. Burg (Log #Wilmington DE (Log #W5879) (Log #W821) Mike Burgess, Saanich Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W600) Renee Coltz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5352) Robert A Burke, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Eugene Compton, Richmond Fire/EMS Dept. (Log #W5933) (Log #W3993) Dennis Condon, Needham Fire Fighters (Log #W835) Christina Burkert, Protective Services Empl. Coalition Jay C Confort, Bellingham, WA (Log #W1013) (Log #W14) Francis P. Conlon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William M Burkhend, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log #W4267) (Log #W796) Joe Conway, Fire Fighters Local 311 (Log #W756) Richard Burns, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Patrick Cook, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W684) (Log #W3986) David Cook, Youngstown Fire Dept (Log #W774) Michael Burrier, Salt Lake County Fire Dept (Log #W1070) Curtis M Cook, Willoughby Fire Dept (Log #W1001) Richard T. Burris, Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Jeffrey Cook, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W1023) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3559) Ross Cook, Montgomery Co. #1664 (Log #W6114) Thomas C Busch, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6210) Lora Cooke, Dale City, VA (Log #W1051) Rich Butcher, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W612) John Corbett, St. Louis Cty (Log #W696) Donald J. Butler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lawrence M Cordell, IAFF (Log #W604) (Log #W4433) Cheryl Corim, Newberg Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley John Buzon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5048) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3569) David P Byrnes, Northern Ohio Fire Fighters (Log #W898) James Cornyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4486) James M. Byrnes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeff Cotner, Bloom Twp Fire Dept (Log #W893) (Log #W5682) John Cowan, Detroit Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W907) Michael Calbick, Delta Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1074) Jeff Cowley, Sedgwick County Fire Fighters (Log #W626) Michael V Callavo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3698) (Log #W4861) Robert Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5616) Janet Campbell, Newberg Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley Lester H. Cragan III, Concord Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3564) (Log #W68) John A. Cannon, Professional Fire Fighters of Maine Local 740 Darrel B Crane, San Bernardino County Professional Fire (Log #W2235) Fighters (Log #W637) Deborah Cantwell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log Jeffery Crawford, Dale City, VA (Log #W932) #W795) James Crawford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Caputo, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W62) (Log #W4960) Hector Cardenos, IAFF 624 (Log #W593) Kevin M Crews, Sr., Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W6174) Bryan Carnahan, Ottumwa, IA (Log #W1041) Joseph Crnkovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy J Carney, City of South Euclid (Log #W897) (Log #W5446) James Carney, Plain Township Fire Fighters Local 3850 Robert D Cromie, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1911) (Log #W5026) Kevin E Carnrick, Hingham Fire Dept (Log #W804) Mike Crouse, IAFF Local F123 (Log #W2001) Vincent R Carroccia (Log #Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W1047) Dan Crow, Redlands Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W676) Keith Cash, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5175) John D. Crowley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William P Castillo, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6234) (Log #W4935) Linas Cernius, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Stephen J Cummings, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3536) (Log #W4510) Mauro Cetra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4474) Timothy S Curtis, Beloit Fire Fighters (Log #W739) Tom Chamberlain, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W781) Ronald Cushing, Manchester Fire Department Local 856 Richard Chaney, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1033) (Log #W2259) Leo Chapman, Regina, Sask (Log #W1917) James A Cuticchia, Andover Fire Fighters Union (Log #W616) Russell Chapman, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Scott Cypher, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4332) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3622) Michael D’Orazi, City of Alameda Fire Dept (Log #W986) Russ Chard, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W875) Robert J. Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Roland M Chavez, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W1026) (Log #W3853) Frederick Childs, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 Thomas C Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W629) (Log #W4970) Pasquale Chirumbolo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jon Daly, Valapraiso Fire Fighters Local 1124 (Log #W26) (Log #W5147) John A Daly, Worcester Fire Dept (Log #W817) Andrew D. Chulack, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Leonard C. Damian, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. (Log #W5364) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3626) Robert Ciesielski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gene A Dangel, San Ramon Valley Fire (Log #W983) (Log #W5658) Scott Daniel, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Karl P. Cincotta, Dover Professional Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W605) (Log #W1709) Charles Daniels, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters William Cinker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4213) (Log #W5827) Michael J Danyko, Fairview Fire Dept (Log #W6192) William Cinker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey Daum, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3834) (Log #W5833) Bob DAusilio, Alhambra, CA (Log #W661) George Clark, Utica, NY (Log #W679) Tyrone N. Davie, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2806) Roy P. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4105) A N Davila, IAFF (Log #W603) Charles T. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin G Davis, City of Sioux Falls Fire Rescue (Log #W918) (Log #W5688) G. Clay Davis, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Frederick G. Cleis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3574)

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Phil Dawson, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Terry Dunne, Peoria Fire Department (Log #W1599) (Log #W1016) Mike Durkin, Youngstown Fire (Log #W771) Christopher J. Dawson, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Steve A Durkit, Coyahoga Falls Fire Dept (Log #W790) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3597) Barry Dutton, Bismark Fire Department Local 2468 Kevin Dawyskibr, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W877) (Log #W2229) Michael D Day, Baltimore Cty Professional Fire Fighters Assn Thomas J. Dutton, P.G. County MD (Log #W5855) (Log #W808) Thomas A Early, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Yoder Dean, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/E64/Rep. Tualatin (Log #W4765) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3615) Chad A Eason, Station 61 (Log #W4646) Darcy DeGiovani, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Station 64/Rep. Carl L Eastham, Huntington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3610) #W811) Joel Degitz, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2805) David N Eckman, Springettsbury Twp Professional Fire Fighters Rob DeHaan, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue (Log #W3588) (Log #W929) John DeJager, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Gary W. Edge, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W97) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3592) Patrick Eggleston, Binghamton, NY (Log #W999) John DeJulio, Olathe Fire Dept (Log #W641) John Eisel, Violet Twp Fire Dept (Log #W953) Ryan S DeLashmutt, SQE61 (ST 61) TVFR (Log #W4637) Francis Elder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5550) Brian Delfs, Tucson, AZ (Log #W810) Daniel A. Elias, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Randall H Delmonico, Burnaby Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W912) (Log #W5438) Louis P Demici, Danbury Fire Dept (Log #W763) John M Elliott, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeremiah J Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3723) (Log #W3815) James M. Ellis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph C. Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5471) (Log #W4056) Oscar M Elmasian, East ProvidenceFire Dept (Log #W1018) William E. Dengler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Elmendorf, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W935) (Log #W4146) Frank Emiliano, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Charles W. Denham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W876) (Log #W4797) Dave Engler, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W882) William E Denton, Hickory Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W761) Thomas English, San Bernandino City Professional Fire Fighters Edward Derby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Assn (Log #W688) (Log #W4392) Lisa Epps, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4480) Joseph M. Deresh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Genaro Esparza, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin (Log #W4554) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3596) Pat Devaney, Champaign Fire Fighters (Log #W956) Dennis Eulberg, North Metro Professional Fire Fighters Robert E Dewitt, Hastings Fire Dept (Log #W814) (Log #W677) Timothy Robert Dhayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy J Evangelista, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3689) (Log #W5181) Mike DiBattiste, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas M. Fahringer, Torrance Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1138 (Log #W4674) (Log #W2211) Lawrence Dickenson, Newberg Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Greg Fair, Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3567) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3558) Paul Diedrich, Southgate Fire Dept (Log #W773) John M. Fanelli, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey S. Dillon, Mesquite Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W45) (Log #W5382) Steven J Dirksen, Professional Fire Fighters of South Dakota (Log Lt. Edmund Farley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W726) (Log #W4917) Eugene C. Ditter, E-53 C/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Dale Farrell, Saskatoon, SK (Log #W715) Fighters (Log #W3553) Richard Farrell, Victoria Fire Fighters Local 730 (Log #W3517) Kenneth J Diulus, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tony L Fatjo, Ft. Lauderdale, FL (Log #W608) (Log #W5187) Darlene Faulconer, Montgomery County Career Fire Fighters David Divosevic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Assn (Log #W1689) (Log #W4541) Robert K Faurot, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W991) Walter J Dix, Broward Cty Prof Paramedics & FF (Log #W609) Michael Feeney, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 Sheryl Dobbs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5652) (Log #W2199) Paul Dober, Lwr. Sack ville, NS (Log #W3010) Richard A. Fehl, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James W Dolan, Sr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4631) (Log #W5223) Michael S. Ferke, Scranton Fire Fighters (Log #W1643) Stephen Domanski, Clinton Twp Fire Rescue (Log #W6252) Kristine Ferreira, Upper Marlboro, MD (Log #W6240) Ken Donechie, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Palm James C. Ferris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bch Co (Log #W760) (Log #W3658) Robert C Dooley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James R Fiering, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4984) (Log #W4087) Richard C. Doppes, Jr., Cincinnati Fire Division E-19 Larry Fierro, LA City Fire (Log #W747) (Log #W5939) Bruce Finck, Syracuse Fire Department (Log #W3527) Don Dorsey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4220) Thomas Finnie, Syracuse Fire Department (Log #W3528) Jason Doty, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Steve Fisher, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3640) Union (Log #W3603) James E Doucette, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W987) Chris Fitch, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2798) Charles Downer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Barry Fitz, Fire Fighters Local 413 (Log #W762) (Log #W5310) Richard Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steve Drake, Highland Park Fire Depart (Log #W3435) (Log #W5418) Mark Drinkut, Anderson, IN (Log #W788) John T Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas P Drudy, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4838) (Log #W4031) Mark Fitzsimmons, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Michael Drury, Merrill Fire Fighters (Log #W735) (Log #W712) Raymond H Ducover, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steve Fivecoat, Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue/Rep. Tualatin (Log #W5016) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3561) Mike Duddy, Coquitlam Fire Rescue (Log #W151) Dean Fletcher, IAFF Local 1285 (Log #W651) Thomas M Duffola, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Chris M. Flora, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3948) (Log #W5304) Patrick Duffy, Oak Forest Fire Fighters Union (Log #W889) Bill Floyd, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5815) Daniel Dugan, DC Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1671) Richard F Foerch, Woodbridge Fire Dept (Log #W690) Tim Duncan, Clinton Twp Fire Dept (Log #W6264) Patrick T Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Ronald D Dunfield, City of Jackson Fire Fighters (Log #W1085) (Log #W4063)

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Timothy Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Gorizre, Associated Fire Fighters Matteson (Log #W969) (Log #W5292) Jeff Gottbreht, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W881) John T. Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5406) John P. Gourley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pasquale Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4296) (Log #W4320) Richard Greene, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael G. Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3793) (Log #W4368) David Greenwood, Birmingham Fire Dept (Log #W950) James R. Ford, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W57) Aaron Gregg, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/E64/Rep. Tualatin James E. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3614) (Log #W5401) David G Gregorich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas F. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4821) (Log #W5455) Vincent Griffin, Oaklawn, IL (Log #W1899) Don Forrest, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W749) Daniel L. Griffin, Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue/Rep. Tualatin James A Fossos, Seattle Fire Dept (Log #W962) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3557) Billy A Foster, Memphis Fire Dept (Log #W831) Dawn Marie Griffin, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Gerald P. Fox, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3595) (Log #W3841) Daniel S. Griffin, Tualatin Valley Fire /Rep. Tualatin Valley Don Frank, Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union/Rep. Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3639) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3642) Ryan M. Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul E Fredrica, Racine, WI (Log #W674) (Log #W4583) Greg Frieders, Aurora Fire Fighters (Log #W724) Sean Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5737) Carl Fritz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4528) Robert W Griffiths, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Guy Fujio, Honolulu Fire Dept (Log #W994) (Log #W4601) Mark Fuller, North Kansas Fire Fighters (Log #W1054) Sandra Grubb, PGFD (Log #W6180) Richard T Furlong, Harvey Fire Dept (Log #W949) Gerald E. Grunert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Gabriel, Dubuque Fire Fighters (Log #W634) (Log #W4611) Thomas M. Gabriel, Miami Assocation of Fire Fighters local 587 Troy Haase, Fondulac Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W731) (Log #W1941) Doug Hague, Pascagoula, MS (Log #W606) Bradley P Gaiser, Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc of Scarsdale Ryan T. Haid, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5562) (Log #W937) Walter R. Haig, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James T Galvin, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W750) (Log #W4221) Thomas Ganiere, /Rep. Ottawa Fire Fighters Local 523 David Haines, Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2106) (Log #W3529) Tom Gardner, Sacramento, CA (Log #W692) Rieck Hairston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John R. Gardner, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3823) (Log #W4403) Mark S Hall, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W833) Roger Garver, Eugene, OR (Log #W818) B R Hall, Nashville Fire Fighters (Log #W1048) Mark P Garvey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Robert Hall, Vancouver Fire & Rescue local 18 (Log #W2096) (Log #W3773) Dale A. Hall, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5501) Mark Gasiorowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Halsey, CSPFFA (Log #W1046) (Log #W5424) Robert M Halston, Egelston Professional Fire Fighters Union Phillip Gauer, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W1076) 3901 (Log #W1953) Gerald P Gay, Sanford Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1734) Ian Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Melvin S Gay, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5262) (Log #W716) Mark Gehri, City of Bedford Hts Fire Dept (Log #W896) Keith Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Stan George, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W611) (Log #W2157) Brian George, London Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W906) Rocky Hanes, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Jerome Ghafoor, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3544) (Log #W5622) Rocky Hanes, Lake Oswego, OR (Log #W3671) David E. Gibson, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc Local 58 David P. Haney, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2069) (Log #W3532) John Gilleran, IAFF Local 3177 (Log #W2127) Thomas Hanify, Indianapolis Fire Fighter Union (Log #W791) David W Gillotte, LA County Fire Fighters Local 1014 Michael W Hanks, Roanoke Fire EMS Dept (Log #W812) (Log #W1071) John F. Hanley, Local 798 (Log #W1787) Joseph J. Giorgianni, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lance Hanson, Eau Claire Fire Fighters (Log #W734) (Log #W4308) Eugene A. Harnish, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Gisler, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters (Log #W3943) Union (Log #W3635) Larry J Hartley, Martin City Fire Dept (Log #W1083) Michael Glaser, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Christian Hartman, Warren Professional Firefighters (Log #W4098) (Log #W6086) Kevin Glasgow, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Michael Hassinger, Bucyrus Fire Fighters (Log #W783) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3589) Daniel Hastie, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Alfred Q. Glaze, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3548) (Log #W4730) Todd Hattery, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2799) Robert N. Glenn, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Thomas Hattery, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2803) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3593) William A Hawe, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W945) Chuck Glines, Vondenberg Fire, Local F116 (Log #W1971) Charles C Hawkins, Jr, Seattle Fire Fighters Union (Log #W919) Jerome J Gnipp, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Michael P Hawkins, Shaker Hts Fire Dept (Log #W1078) (Log #W3708) Emeral E Hayden, El Paso Assn of Fire Fighters (Log #W598) Peter Godon, Truck 51, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tim Healy, City of Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W741) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3628) Alan Hefter, West Bend Fire Fighters (Log #W725) Henry J Goliat, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steve Heim, Lincoln Park Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W772) (Log #W5286) Rod Heivilin, Shoreline Fire Fighters (Log #W829) Greg Gollner, Greenfield, Wi (Log #W736) David L. Helbling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John A. Gombita, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4344) (Log #W5489) Paul W Helms, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Antonio Gomes, Easton Fire Dept (Log #W1797) (Log #W4951) Freddie Gonzales, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Hemphill, Bogalusa Fire Fighters (Log #W758) (Log #W5072) Karen Hendrix, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Doug A. Goodman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3577) (Log #W5126) Ian R Henis, Vancouver Fire & Rescue Service (Log #W594) William Michael Gorham, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Henning, Fire Fighters Local 63 (Log #W768) (Log #W5244) Sheldon J. Henry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters

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(Log #W5845) (Log #W4871) Allen Henson, Littleton Fire Fighters Local 2086 (Log #W2217) Roger C Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Thomas Herak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4158) (Log #W4248) Vince Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James A. Herbst, Great Lakes Fire Department Local F37 (Log #W5085) (Log #W1923) Ralph Jedd, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4079) Donald Heritage, Joplin, MO (Log #W1059) Adrian Jewett, Tualatin Valley Fire /Rep. Tualatin Valley Lorenzo Hernandez, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3637) Log #W3587) Dennis D. Jines, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2808) Aaron Herschman, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Co. 49 Richard Jock, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4529) (Log #W6138) Samuel R. Joe, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Mark Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4415) (Log #W3537) Al Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5298) James Johnson, IAFF Local F-88 (Log #W178) Darin Heydon, Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Jeff Johnson, Oshkosh Fire Dept (Log #W623) (Log #W3530) Wayne Johnson, Lethbridge, Alberta (Log #W909) Gary W. Hickey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay Johnson, San Mateo County FF (Log #W998) (Log #W5700) Randy Johnson, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W1719) Fred Higgins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4463) Robert W. Johnson, Harwich Fire Department Local 2124 David L. Higgs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2026) (Log #W4768) Brian Johnson, Tualtatin Valley Fire and Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Damon T. HIll, Sr., PGH Professional Fire Fighters/Rep. Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3584) Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6485) Shana Johnson, Rescus 14 Cincinnati Fire Division Barry Hilling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4887) (Log #W5945) Nick Hillner, Whichita Falls, TX (Log #W648) J E Jones, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W718) Larry Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3992) Fletcher Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4899) (Log #W4540) Rick Hinchcliffe, Greeley-Union Coloney Fire Rescue Auth David W. Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W702) (Log #W5839) Gerald Hirschfeld, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy J. Joyce, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3711) (Log #W5531) Brian K Hishinuma, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W752) William F. Juergen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ron Hittle, Stockton Fire Department (Log #W2187) (Log #W5513) Mark Hoffmann, Oakland Fire Dept (Log #W967) Randall Jute, Lake Worth, FL (Log #W927) Geneori Hogan, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2811) Gregg P Kadow, Manitowoc Professional Fire Fighters Paul Hogan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5670) (Log #W742) David Hogelin, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W826) Fred P Kaeberlein, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W632) Mark Hogrebe, Allen Park Fire Dept (Log #W892) Emily Kane, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W930) Toussaint M Holland, Fairfax County (Log #W6156) Tom Karnas, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn William G Hollander, Kansas City KS Fire Dept (Log #W746) (Log #W717) Jim Holmes, London Professional Fire Fighters Assn John Kastran, Rochester Hills, MI (Log #W709) (Log #W1017) William G Kauahkaua, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W997) Paul R Holmquist, Yarmouth Permanent Fire Fighters Greg Keefe, Newark Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W798) (Log #W1039) Glenn Keiffer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Gary Homberg, Kankakee Fire Fighters Local 653 (Log #W2786) (Log #W3763) Rick Honsberger, Thorold Professional Fire Fighters Francis D Kelly, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W699) (Log #W1808) Michael A Kelly, Livonia Fire Fighters (Log #W723) Eric V Hopp, Elgin, IL (Log #W770) Michael T. Kelly, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Stephen Horne, IAFF Local 822 (Log #W3443) (Log #W4514) E. J. Horney, Yonkers, NY (Log #W1605) Jeff Kemp, Richmond Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1012) Leo Horton, S Lake Tahoe, CA (Log #W1037) Francis Kennedy, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W885) Timothy R. Hottenfeller, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert J. Kerestes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5483) (Log #W5094) Dennis Howard, City of Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W154) Timothy Kernan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Hoy, Torrance Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W728) (Log #W5140) Gerry Huger, /Rep. Sask. Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Joe Kerr, Orange County Fire Authority (Log #W689) (Log #W1759) Maureen Kerrigan, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Bobby G. Humphryes, Birmingham Fire Fighters Assoc. Local (Log #W4022) 117 (Log #W1965) Robert E Kiefer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John D. Hunt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4983) (Log #W4686) Guy D. Hunter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey M Kihune, Maui Fire Dept (Log #W993) (Log #W5395) Jeffrey M Kihune, Maui Fire Dept (Log #W2581) Tom Huston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4374) Patrick Kilbane, Janesville Fire Fighters (Log #W1028) Brad Hutchings, North Hampton Fire & Rescue (Log #W1782) Joseph J. Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph C. Imburgia, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4398) (Log #W5785) David Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5007) Stanley W. Ingle, Knoxville Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W2339) Michael T. King, Fairfax County (Log #W6150) Dennis E. Isaac, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Stephen J Kinneavy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2038) (Log #W4694) Russell Jack, Everett Fire Department (Log #W1463) James M. Kirby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Matt Jackson, JCFFA Local 3309 (Log #W627) (Log #W5592) Shawn R Jackson, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1749) Stephen C. Klein, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Reeth Jackson, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters (Log #W4338) Union (Log #W3599) Robert Knerr, Navsta Ingleside Fire Dept (Log #W952) Brian K. Jackson, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin Knight, Aurora Fire Dept (Log #W645) (Log #W3762) Cliff Knoll, E 65/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Carl Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4045) (Log #W3545) Kevin Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Charles Koelker, Cumberland, MD (Log #W1036) (Log #W4238) John J. Koenig, Manchester Fire Rescue EMS (Log #W1571) Philip Jandrokovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul C. Konarowski, Oshawa FireFighters Assocation (Log #W4152) (Log #W51) Randy T Jankowski, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Gerald Kosaki, Hawaii Fire Dept (Log #W995) (Log #W3796) Kurt Kouoelka, Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Joseph J Janosko, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3560)

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John F. Kramer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Lovins, Warren Professional Firefighters (Log #W6081) (Log #W5389) Craig W Lowe, City of Santa Rosa Fire Dept (Log #W981) John J Kreger, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5274) Gregory A Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Norman Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4582) (Log #W3814) Richard E Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Alan Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5712) (Log #W5122) Dennis Kruger, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W698) Stephen Ludmann, Blue Ash Fire Fighters (Log #W701) Brian J. Krull, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5604) Mark D. Lundy, City of Worthington Division of Fire & EMS (Log Jay M. Kunkel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5556) #W2169) Michael Kurtsinger, Louisville Professional Fire Fighters Robert G Luther, Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W729) (Log #W900) James L Luttrell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W685) Elizabeth C Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Dennis Lyman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3737) (Log #W4623) David H Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4572) Paul Lyons, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4201) Thomas R La montagne, Portsmouth Fire Dept (Log #W1704) Joseph F. Machovec, Baltimore City Fire Officers Assoc John P Labishak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1581) (Log #W3902) Richard Macklin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ed Lacombe, New Bedford MA (Log #W5867) (Log #W5412) Gary Lamb, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue Engine Co 50/Rep. J Macleod, Van Fire & Rescue (Log #W704) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3618) Robert G. MacMaster, Augusta Uniformed Fire Fighters Jeff Lane, Gainesville Fire Fighters (Log #W757) Association (Log #W2020) David Lang, Professional Fire Fighters of Hampton (Log #W655) Joseph Magliocca, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Leonard K. Lang, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5268) (Log #W5791) Michael F Magnan, Woonsocket Fire Dept (Log #W1792) Brian F Lange, Dekalb Fire Fighters (Log #W759) Elmer Mahaffy, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W6062) George Lange, City of Strongsville (Log #W1002) Roger J Maher, III, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dwight W. Lanter, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin (Log #W4787) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3570) Chris Mahon, Ventura Cty Fire Dept (Log #W662) Mike L. Lanter, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Thomas Makar, Wilkes-Barre Fire Fighters (Log #W1043) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3572) Walker Mallison, Sgt 62 /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Thomas W Larbig, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Firefighters Union (Log #W3602) (Log #W4231) David Manfredo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Latta, OCPFA Local 3631 (Log #W656) (Log #W4284) William Lau, E 65/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Kelly Mannion, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3547) (Log #W3917) William J. Lawrence, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian K Manship, Selma, IN (Log #W787) (Log #W4451) Kevin Manson, Jr., West Hartford Fire Dept. (Log #W5921) Todd J Lealue, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn Matthew Mariani, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/E64/Rep. (Log #W683) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3612) Fred LeBlanc, Kingston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Brian Markewinski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1081) (Log #W4421) Fred LeBlanc, Kingston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Greg B Markley, Kent Fire Fighters (Log #W1729) (Log #W2683) John A Marks, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 Robert H Lee, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W996) (Log #W630) James P Lee, Whitpain Fire Dept (Log #W1049) Michael J. Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard Lee, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3664) (Log #W3583) William Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Matt Leech, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue//Rep. Tualatin Valley (Log #W3869) Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3608) Art Marshall, Santa Clara County Fire Fighters (Log #W964) Al Leier, Prince George Fire Fighters Union (Log #W713) William Marshfield, Syracuse Fire Department (Log #W3524) Jordan M Lemieux, Holyoke Fire Dept (Log #W824) Wiliam Martin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles J Lenz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4881) (Log #W4594) Elmer Martinez, Pocatello Fire Fighters (Log #W642) W James Leve, Portage Fire Fighters (Log #W799) Patrick Martyn, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn Mark T. Lewandowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1000) (Log #W4121) Art Martynuska, Johnstown Fire Fighters (Log #W989) David J. Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeff Marusich, City of Highland Park IAFF 822 (Log #W3444) (Log #W3753) Keith O Mary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5280) Charles L Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Thomas M Marzheuser, Cincinnati Fire Dept (Log #W1004) (Log #W4164) Ronnie Mason, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Engine Company Varnell Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5664) 50/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union William R Ley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4563) (Log #W3617) Mark Liberator, Canton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W775) Mike Massone, San Diego Federal Fire Fighters (Log #W79) John Lindberg, Nampa Fire Dept (Log #W644) Richard V. Mastandrea, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bruce Linner, BC-5 Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4779) (Log #W4661) Mark A. Mastison, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Tim Littlefield, Algonquin Lake In The Hill Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1905) (Log #W1678) Jim Matthews, Engine #2 West Hartford CT (Log #W5915) Dan Livengood, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue T 67B/Rep. Joe Matuszewski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3641) (Log #W4946) Bob Livingston, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council Frederick H. Mays, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1777) (Log #W5779) Joe Locnikar, Fargo Fire (Log #W693) William F Mazon, III, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Matt Loewen, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W744) (Log #W3865) Paul Lombardo, Lahabra Fire Fighters (Log #W977) Lawrence Mazza, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steve Long, KCK Fire Dept (Log #W628) (Log #W5334) Larry G Long, Stockton Fire Dept (Log #W675) Daniel R McCarthy, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W754) Kevin R. Long, Mashpee Fire Fighters Local 2519 (Log #W2247) Steven G. McCarthy, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/ Eng 64 B Robert Losket, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4995) shift/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union Robert F Lostetter, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3606) (Log #W5157) Terrence L McCarthy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Love, Independence, MO (Log #W1067) (Log #W4976) Tom Lovell, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W646) Mark McCormick, Santa Rosa Fire Fighters (Log #W933)

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Roy McDonald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Mogavero, Toronto Fire Service (Log #W710) (Log #W3672) Kraig Moisan, Truck 51, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Timothy T McDonnell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3629) Fire Fighters (Log #W792) Paul Molkenbuhr, Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Dept John McDonough, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1080) (Log #W5229) Jay Montenbrey, IAFF Local 2915 (Log #W2014) David M. McEndoo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Montoya, Los Angeles County Fire Fighters (Log #W687) (Log #W4902) Gregory M Mooney, Massport Fire Fighters (Log #W1045) David W McFee, Ashville Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W765) Brian Moore, Vacaville Fire Fighters (Log #W650) John A McGee, Manchester PFF (Log #W1024) Rick Moore, Fire Fighters Association Local 36/Rep. District of R L McGhee, IAFF Local 176 (Log #W1739) Columbia Fire Fighters (Log #W1456) Richard L. McGrail, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Travis O. Moore, San Antonio Fire Dept. (Log #W5903) (Log #W5328) Jason Morgan, Tigard Fire Station T51/Rep. Tualatin Valley Harry C McIntyre, Greensboro, NC (Log #W1030) Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3634) David McIntyre, Clinton Township Fire Department Local 1381 Kevin R Morgan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2271) (Log #W5238) Lawrence McKinney, Lakehurst, NJ (Log #W910) Chris Morlan, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6216) Dennis McKnight, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeff Morris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5211) (Log #W4723) Jeffrey A Morrow, Taylor Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W722) J. David McLean, Dover Fire Officers (Log #W607) Dustin Morrow, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Edgar W McLean, Burlington Fire Dept (Log #W922) (Log #W3531) Michael McMahon, Hampton, NH (Log #W955) Donald R. Moses, McDonough, GA (Log #W2145) Eric T. McMullen, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Leo Mostyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4278) Union (Log #W3605) Dale Mount, Newberg Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley Darren M McNeil, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3565) (Log #W5250) Robert W. Mueller, TVFR E 91/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Michael D McNeill, Denver Fire Dept (Retired) (Log #W823) Fire Fighters (Log #W3556) Pat McOsker, UFLA C (Log #W753) Michael J. Mullen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike McOsker, United Fire Fighters of Los Angeles (Log #W966) (Log #W4302) Larry J. McPhail, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association Adrian Munday, Fairfax, VA (Log #W834) (Log #W5724) Victor D Muto, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William J McQuillen, Portsmouth Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5111) (Log #W663) Phillip Myers, Park Forest Fire Fighers Assoc (Log #W2175) Rodney G. Meade, Newberg Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Lawrence A Naddy, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3568) Palm Bch Co (Log #W769) Ronald J. Meikle, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2797) Douglas Napoli, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters James W Meinzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3543) (Log #W4927) Tom Neal, St. Cloud Fire Dept (Log #W1040) Alan Menillo, Fainfield Fire Fighters (Log #W926) James Nedwidek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Meringer, OshawaFire Fighters Assn (Log #W706) (Log #W3956) Joe Merritt, Fairfax Fire Rescue FS 18 (Log #W6080) Fernando Negrete, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 Justin Mesenbrink, 51 Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. (Log #W2193) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3633) Michael G. Neibauer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Barry Mesley, Miami Township Fire & EMS (Log #W785) (Log #W4350) Donald Messier, Somersworth, NH (Log #W588) Douglas H Neil, Great Falls Fire/Rescue (Log #W820) Don Mette, Sacramento Metro Fire Dist (Log #W988) Dan A Neill, City of Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W636) Craig Meyer, Tualatin Valley Fire /Rep. Tualatin Valley Jerry V. Nelson, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3638) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3609) Rick Michael (Log #West Chicago, IL (Log #W667) Edward A Nemeth, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W901) Robert W. Michel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tony Neratini, Vancouver Fire Rescue Services (Log #W1015) (Log #W5610) Jeff Nester, Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W904) David G. Michniuk, /Rep. Highland Park Fire Department Donald E. Newham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3439) (Log #W5146) Gary Micu, Warren Professional Firefighters Union Les Newman, Thunder Bay Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W6082) (Log #W947) James A Mikell, IAFF Local 68 (Log #W625) Mike Nichols, Waco Professional Fire fighters (Log #W1007) Gary Miles, Warren Fire Dept. (Log #W6084) Jeff Nicholson, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters James H Miller, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W613) (Log #W3534) Jeffrey A Miller, Town of Beloit Fire Dept (Log #W740) Chris J Nickoloff, South Metro Professional Fire Fighters Chris Miller, Dehli Township Fire Dept (Log #W786) (Log #W777) Michael R. Milligan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J Nicotra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5322) (Log #W4498) Steve Mills, Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Ryan Niemeyer, R67 B/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3582) Firefighters Union (Log #W3619) Chris Mills, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue T 51B/Rep. Tualatin Thomas J. Niemiec, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3630) (Log #W4717) Reuben M. Millsaps, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W91) John R Niemiec, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Michael E Minton, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6270) (Log #W957) Scott Nishisaka, Burbank Fire Fighters (Log #W916) William Mirt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5731) Thomas Nix, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2804) John Misencik, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael H. Nolf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4736) (Log #W4439) Erwin Miske, City of Rocky River (Log #W894) Paul Nordstrom, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue (Log #W3586) Kenneth Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Stephen E Norris, LA City Fire (Log #W748) (Log #W4195) Ronald F. Novak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Christopher Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3913) (Log #W5477) Hector Nunez, Tyler Fire Department/Rep. Tyler Professional Leroy Mobley, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W103) (Log #W5628) David O’Leary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Christopher Mock, E 65/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire (Log #W5749) Fighters (Log #W3546) Kevin M O’Meara, Calif Dept of Forestry & Fire Protection Thomas J. Moffitt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W672) (Log #W4681) Perry Oldenburg, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W827)

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Walter T. Oldham, Memphis Fire Department local 1784 Damon Price, Fairfax Co. Fire & Rescue (Log #W5873) (Log #W1995) Christopher D. Prickett, Dekalb Professional Fire Fighters local Charles Oleary, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters 1492 (Log #W1935) (Log #W4177) Michael Priester, Orange County Fire/Rescue (Log #W589) Donald R Olguin, Boulder Fire Fighters (Log #W959) Tommy K. Propst, Orange County Fire & Rescue, Local 2057 Gordon Olson, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1724) (Log #W2133) Stanley Olson, Highland Park Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W3441) Michael Pudup, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tom Oosting, Stillwater Professional FireFighters Assoc. (Log #W4570) (Log #W1676) Luis Puentes, East Moline, IL (Log #W914) Leonard Orlando, Green Bay Fire Department Local 141 Kevin Quinn, Elk Grove Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2267) (Log #W951) James Orton, Vaughan Fire Fighters Local 1595 (Log #W2498) Michael Quinn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles A. Ossler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4706) (Log #W3721) David A Rabb, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Mark Ouellette, Professional Fire Fighters of NH (Log #W615) (Log #W4183) Raymond M Palczynski, DAPFF (Log #W830) Todd Raeburn, Station 61 (Log #W4644) Raymond M Palczynski, DAPFF (Log #W1848) Frank P Raffa, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W886) Donald J. Palmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert A. Rajnovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4356) (Log #W5340) Richard T Paltaut, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W936) David A. Raleigh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J Panchura, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4699) (Log #W3958) Rob Rankin, Local 1053 (Log #W2323) Greg Parker, San Bernandino City Fire Fighters (Log #W958) Norman D. Rathke, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bill Parlow, Brockton Fire Fighters (Log #W887) (Log #W5538) Hugo Patino, Modesto City Fire Fighters (Log #W976) Jeffrey P Rawson, Washington, MA (Log #W591) Rick Patterson, Prince George’s County (Log #W6126) Mark D. Rectenwald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard H Pattison, Houston Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4959) (Log #W1714) Robert Redente, City of East Haven Local 1205 (Log #W2007) Rickie Paul, Norwood Fire Dept (Log #W954) Brian J Reed, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W832) Dave Pearson, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Mark Reed, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3535) (Log #W879) Eric Pederson, Austin Assn of Professional Fire Fighters Michael L Reed, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W1075) (Log #W1055) Gary Reed, Tulatin Fire Dept (Log #W3670) Christopher M Pedrotty, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Michael Reeves, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters #W5193) (Log #W797) Jeffry M. Pegg, Local 344 (Log #W6144) Jim Reidy, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters Assn Greg Perdue, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5066) (Log #W1087) James M Perkins, City of Bradford (Log #W631) Thomas A. Reinheimer, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lawrence Perkins, Seabrook Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5027) (Log #W649) Larry A Rekasie, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Randall S. Perkins, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin (Log #W4047) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3627) John Remillard, Norristown, PA (Log #W657) Rard Perkins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4255) Steven W Repp, IAFF Local 1773 (Log #W617) Steve Perna, Warren Fire Dept. (Log #W6083) Doug Rex, West Des Moines Fire Fighters (Log #W828) James Perrott, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5217) Mark Rhame, Orange Conty Fire Rescue (Log #W1802) Frank R. Perry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Rhyner, Tucson Fire Fighter (Log #W1061) (Log #W5370) Brian K Rice, Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District Robert F Pesa, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4809) (Log #W694) Marty Peterson, Salt Lake City Fire Fighters (Log #W822) Michael Richards, Poquonnock Bridge Professional Fire Fighters William Peterson, Coon Rapids Fire Dept (Log #W980) Assn (Log #W1003) Thomas Petronio, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy Richardson, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4920) (Log #W668) Donald W Petschke, Buffalo Fire Dept (Log #W1052) Cecil D Ridge, Modesto Fire Fighters (Log #W1089) Billy C. Petty, Mesquite FireFighters Assoc (Log #W8) James Ridley, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2807) Mike Pfeiffer, Whitby Professional Fire Fighters Assocation Phillip Riggs, Newberg Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley (Log #W160) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3566) Dennis Phillips, Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W635) Jon Riley, Vallejo Fire Dept (Log #W984) Ron Phillips, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1487 Clifton Rineheart, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6228) (Log #W2163) Jeff Ritter, Station 61 (Log #W4653) Edward Pidermann, Miami Assn of Fire Fighters (Log #W599) Edward Riveros, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W751) Frank Pierce, Shelby Twp Fire Dept (Log #W899) Keith Roach, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4748) Jeff Pierce, Station 61 (Log #W4650) Daivd W. Robbins, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Gregory Pietras, Chicopee Fire Fighters (Log #W883) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3576) Larry Pikora, Hanover Park Professional Fire Fighters Scotty Roberts, IAFF L-1568 (Log #W622) (Log #W917) Robert L Robertson, DeKalb County Professional Fire Fighters John A. Piotrowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2151) (Log #W3975) James Robinson, Clayton County Professional Fire Fighters Joseph Piro, Easton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W928) (Log #W121) Jason Plogmann, Cincinnati Fire Division - D3 (Log #W6038) John T Robinson, Newport Professional Fire Fighters Union Jerry Pobicki, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3781) (Log #W1082) Jason Porter, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters Lester A Robinson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3542) (Log #W4189) H. John Powell, Haverhill Fire Fighters (Log #W653) Thomas J. Robinson, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Joseph C Powell, City of Winter Park Fire Rescue/Prof Fire (Log #W6132) Fighters (Log #W911) Darcy Robinson, Burnaby City (Log #W6347) James L Powers, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Brian Roeder, New Westminster Fire & Rescue (Log #W913) (Log #W3827) Scott A Rogers, West Metro Fire Fighters (Log #W639) Monte W. Prasin, Decatur, IL (Log #W85) John H Rogers, Green Bay Fire Fighters (Log #W737) Douglas J. Praskovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jack A Rogers, Denver Fire Dept (Log #W764) (Log #W5580) Michael Rose, TVFR Sta 53/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Kenneth Pravch, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W621) Fire Fighters (Log #W3554) Daniel H Preston, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn Neil R Rosenberger, Westminster Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W979) (Log #W595)

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Mark Ross, Engine 51 Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Mark S Selke, IAFF Local F-151 (Log #W1983) Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3624) Robert M. Seybold, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Darryl Ross, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5761) (Log #W4761) Daniel M Ross, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6246) John L. Sharpe, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Neil Rothhaupt, IAFF Local F-170 (Log #W1977) (Log #W3895) Denton Rourke, Prince Georges County MD Fire/EMS Patrick E. Shaw, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5897) (Log #W5586) Paul Routon, Louisville Fire Fighters (Log #W779) Dennis Shearn, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters Louis I. Roy, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2800) (Log #W670) Robert Roy, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2802) Jimmie Shelton, Manchester Fire Rescue EMS (Log #W4626) Wayne E. Royster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Earl Shepherd, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4997) (Log #W4468) Kenneth Ruckel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian Sherrard, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4134) (Log #W3551) Barry Rudy, IAFF F-221 (Log #W145) Paul Shively, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4140) Roger Rupp, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W1090) Robert D Shuster, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Edward E Ryan, III, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W884) (Log #W3974) Ohl Sabi, Watertown Fire Fighters (Log #W973) Tyrone Sims, Engine Co 8 Syracuse Fire Dept (Log #W3525) Edwin R Salinetro, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Sinagra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4910) (Log #W5316) Victor M Salis, Hawaii County Fire Dept (Log #W990) Frank P. Sinatra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kurt Neal Salomon, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W3430) (Log #W5376) Gary W. Samuels, Henrico Professional Fire Fighters Assn Joe Singer, Waco, TX (Log #W902) (Log #W624) Craig S Slatcher, City of Wilmington, Ladder #1 (Log #W6186) Kenneth A Samuels, Kansas City Fire Dept (Log #W1694) Art Smith, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W658) Scott W. Sanders, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward N. Smith, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2810) (Log #W4833) Joe Smith, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Martin W. Sanders, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3581) (Log #W5495) David B. Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas W Santaniello, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W633) (Log #W4457) John Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Michael G Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4004) (Log #W5205) Thomas Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters George S Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4012) (Log #W5256) Donald Santoriello, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5706) (Log #W4658) Ray Snodgrass, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W755) Eric Sargent, CDF Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W678) Rick Snodgrass, Lakewood Fire Dept (Log #W1092) Richard Sargent, Centerville-Osterville Fire Fighters Local 2346 Gerald S. Snyder, Fort Drum Fire Department Local F 105 (Log #W2253) (Log #W1959) Robert Saros, Mishawaka Fire (Log #W905) John A. Snyder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary Satterfield, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin (Log #W3964) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3594) Robert Sofield, Edison Fire Officers IAFF Local 2883 Bob Satterwhite, Sgt 62 /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional (Log #W3511) Firefighters Union (Log #W3601) Michael Solida, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert W Saunders, Orange County Fire Rescue (Log #W172) (Log #W5803) Anthony C Savino, Blue Island Professional Fire Fighters Troy D Sonichsen, Sioux City Fire Dept (Log #W1062) (Log #W166) Thomas B. Sowinski, City of Wilmington, DE (Log #W6074) John R Sbonik (Log #West Allis Fire Fighters (Log #W733) Howard T Stahl, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Robert H Scates, Chicago Fire Fighers Union (Log #W620) (Log #W794) Kirk A. Schalau, Meridian Professional FF Assn (Log #W719) Jay Stalcup, Lawrence Fire Dept (Log #W975) Reid Scharding, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George C Stanley, Redford Twp Fire Fighter Union (Log #W903) (Log #W5078) Brian Stark, Hamilton Professional FireFighters Assoc. Harry Scherer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4386) (Log #W20) Paul Schermann, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W803) David Starofsky, City of Rock Island Fire Dept (Log #W1005) Mark Schimanski (Log #Warren Fire Dept. (Log #W6085) Carol Staropoli, E65 (Log #W3657) Darren Schimke, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W643) Michael Steinbaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Schindler, Hamilton Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log (Log #W4785) #W802) Scott Allen Steiner, E 53 (A)/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Ken Schlegel, Tualatin Valley Professional FireFighters Fire Fighters (Log #W3555) Union/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union Kevin P Steiner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3620) (Log #W3782) Don Schleich, Washington Township Fire Department Local 3036 Edward J. Stengel, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2044) (Log #W4844) Karl Schmaelzle, Feeding Hills, MA (Log #W805) David Stephenson, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. William A Schmidt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Local 1487 (Log #W2057) (Log #W5163) Paul Stewart, Jackson Assn of Fire Fighters (Log #W880) Rick Schneider, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Eugene E. Stout, Muskegon Fire Fighters Local 370 Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3578) (Log #W1947) Dale J. Schneider, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Stowell, Richmond (Log #W5909) (Log #W4240) Jim Straight, E 59/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Donald H. Schroeder, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters Union (Log #W3621) (Log #W2115) John G Strawn, Omaha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W921) Dean E. Schulze, T54 B Shift/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional John Stringert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4326) Fire Fighters (Log #W3539) Mark Stuart, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4492) Michael J Schwarz, Lafayette Fire Dept (Log #W1086) Edward Suchacek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas W Schweitzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5519) (Log #W5043) Douglas P. Sudik, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Rick Scofield, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W614) (Log #W6056) Harold D Scoggines, Glendale Fire Fighters (Log #W1035) Shawn Suing, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Sam Scoles, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W681) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3636) Charles Scott, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W592) Don Suley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4709) John J Scullin, Stoneham Fire Dept (Log #W601) James M Sullivan, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W816) Al Selberg, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue (Log #W3585) Robert C Sullivan, Harrisburg, PA (Log #W961)

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Michael Sullivan, Nashua Fire Fighters (Log #W3426) David L Wade, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W6222) Scott Sullivan, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Greg Wagner, Brookfield Professional Fire Fighters Local 2051 Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3616) (Log #W2223) Ronald L Summers, Hamilton Fire Fighters (Log #W705) William P Wagner, II, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Peter C Svoboda, Chesterfield Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3855) (Log #W638) Kenneth A Wahlen, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters James Swain, Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6102) (Log #W4107) David Sweetland, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Joe Walko, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W652) (Log #W6276) Jeff Wallin, Moorhead Fire Fighters (Log #W640) Donald Swickline, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott P Walsh, East Pointe Fire Dept (Log #W1011) (Log #W4089) William M. Walsh, Syracuse Fire Department (Log #W3526) Clarence L. Swindle, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John C. Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5634) (Log #W4380) Douglas M Switzer, Rock Island Arsenal Professional FF Assn John P Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5199) (Log #W590) Stanley J Walter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Stanley Szymanski, Wilmington DE (Log #W5885) (Log #W5129) James T. Talak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary E. Walz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5568) (Log #W4427) Joseph G Ward, Chestnut Hill, MA (Log #W923) John A.E. Tanaka, Evertee Fire Department (Log #W1489) Steven J. Ward, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/ Eng 64 B James C. Tarbert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters shift/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W5755) (Log #W3607) Jim Tate, Ft. Worth Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1065) Stephen Warner, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W940) James R. Taylor, City of Upper Arlington (Log #W720) James Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John F. Tekippe, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1656) (Log #W4205) Larry Thomas, Surrey Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W596) Donald Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark E Thomas, Orland Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W665) (Log #W4755) Gerard Thompson, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Chris Wathen, Local 3217 (Log #W1069) (Log #W109) Rob S. Watson, T51 (c)/Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional David J Thompson, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters Firefighters Union (Log #W3625) Assn (Log #W659) Frank T Watts, APFFA (Log #W767) Kendall Thompson, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Dept FS24-C Douglas W. Watts, Monmouth Fire Department Local 1702 (Log #W5891) (Log #W2063) Dean Thornberry, Brush Prairie, WA (Log #W938) Woodrow E. Webb, Williamsburg Fire Department Michael Thorne, Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue E 35/Rep. (Log #W1665) Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3562) Raymond C Webber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael E Thorp, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W1021) (Log #W4939) James R Tobin, Newport Fire Dept (Log #W695) Lt. Tom Webster, Station 61 (Log #W4648) James Tolley, Melbourne Fire Dept (Log #W602) Jeffrey A Weidner, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters Gordon K K Tom, Honlulu Fire Dept (Ret) (Log #W992) (Log #W745) George J. Tomasak, Luzerne County Professional Fire Fighters David Weisenberg, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W800) (Log #W1649) Deric Weiss, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley James E. Toosan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3552) (Log #W5640) David A Wells, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W815) Rafael A. Torros, El Paso Assocation of Fire Fighters August Werner, Belleville Fire Fighters (Log #W915) (Log #W127) Pat West, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W1684) Scott E. Townsend, Freeport Fire Department Local 441 Timothy Westwood, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2205) (Log #W4857) Mark Train, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log #W5718) Buddy Wheatley, Covington Professional Fire Fighters Kimberly R. Trautman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W780) (Log #W4008) Terence M White, Prince Georges County Fire/EMS Dept Ronald A Truver, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3681) (Log #W5101) Harold E. White, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steven Turner, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1744) (Log #W3745) Dennis Tyler, Muncie Fire Fighters (Log #W789) William M. White, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas C Ullom, Westerville Division of Fire (Log #W890) (Log #W5821) Ronald Ullrice, Port of Seattle Fire Dept (SEA-TAC Airport) Alvin White, Houston Fire Dept. (Log #W5927) (Log #W619) Steven E. White, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Miles Ulven, /Rep. Tualatin Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6050) (Log #W3541) Bruce Whiteside, Waterford Professional Fire Fighters Keith Underwood, Springfield Fire Fighters Local 37 (Log #W721) (Log #W1447) Richard Wiegand, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Ungerman, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5767) (Log #W6431) Frederick B Wier, Wellesley, MA (Log #W806) Ben J Upton, Royal Oak Fire Dept (Log #W776) Karen Wiklinson, Ft Wayne Fire Fighters (Log #W2809) David Valego, Chicopee Fire (Log #W807) Steve Wilding, Oak Creek Fire Fighters (Log #W666) Albert M Valerioti, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W782) Gary H Wilds, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Franco Vallario, New Rochelle Fire Department (Log #W3455) (Log #W3938) Steve Vanderzanden, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Russell Wilkerson, Little Rock Fire Fighters (Log #W1050) Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3575) James D Williams, Amarillo Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W766) James Vannucchi, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W700) Steven D Williams, Houston PFFA (Log #W1020) Erik T. Vater, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4261) Robert Williams, Scranton Fire (Log #W1608) Thomas Veri, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4273) John M. Williams, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1662) John Vietmeier, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scot A. Williams, Prince George’s County Fire/EMS (Log #W3704) (Log #W6120) Johnny Villarreal, Houston Fire Department (Log #W115) Donald Wilson, Boone, IA (Log #W669) Jeffrey Vogts, Prince Georges Co Fire EMS Dept (Log #W6204) Ron Winkel, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Gary L Vokovitch, Wauwatosa Professional Fire Fighters Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3591) (Log #W738) Aaron L Winslow, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frank R Volpe, White Plains Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log (Log #W5169) #W934) Jeffrey W Winters, Sioux Falls Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W727) Richard Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Larry Wishba, Orland Fire Fighters Local 2754 (Log #W1929) (Log #W4064) Gary Witherbee, Calgary Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W597) Mark Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5694) Jeffrey V Witmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters

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(Log #W4520) Mike Anderson, Oklahoma City Firefighters Assoc Local 157 John W Witner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2791) (Log #W4117) David R. Anderson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeanette Woldseth, /Rep. Bellevue Fire Fighters IAFF local 1604 (Log #W4363) (Log #W1058) Bruce Ansell, Bellevue, WA (Log #W2493) Bob Wolf, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W682) Joseph J. Arnold, Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W2122) Chris Woodord, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin John R Arnold, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3571) (Log #W4172) Michael J Woodzicka, Appleton Professional Fire Fighters Domenic Arone, Watertown Fire Dept (Log #W847) (Log #W730) Bob Arzave, San Fransisco Fire Fighters (Log #W1207)) Thomas J Wosko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steven D Ashe, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5055) (Log #W3808)) Roger Wright, Tucson, AZ (Log #W809) Paul Atkinson, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Keith W Wright, Severna Park, MD (Log #W878) (Log #W1231)) John J Wright, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Robert Aubrey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3889) (Log #W3680)) Doug Wriston, Marin FF (Log #W942) Joseph Baccari, Engine Co 319 (Log #W5445)) Diane Wyman, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W1091) Kelly Bach, Tualatin Valley Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1772)) Troy L Wymer, Brewnsburg Fire Territory (Log #W793) Jack Ballinger, IAFF Local 754 (Log #W2033)) James P. Wyzomirski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas R. Baltos, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5544) (Log #W4028)) Timothy L Yakich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert Balzer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4850) (Log #W4039)) Paul Yobbi, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4649) David K. Banjanin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters V Stephen Yocham, Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W139) (Log #W6453)) Ian Yocum, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Valley Robert T. Bankert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3623) (Log #W5526)) Lester Yon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5463) Richard Banske, Calumet City Fire Dept (Log #W2503) Bob York (Log #Wichita, TX (Log #W647) Chris Barden, Riverside City Fire Fighters (Log #W1188) Jim Young, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W888) Scott Barratt, Escondido Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2411) Russell Young, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4409) Raymond L. Barringer, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Daniel H Zahn, Sterling Fire Dept (Log #W1025) (Log #W3930) David A. Zapf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5358) Mark J. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3845) Mark J. Zawodny, Forest Grove Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin William F. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Valley Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3573) (Log #W4641) Dan Zerfass, Highland Park IAFF 822 (Log #W3432) Ronald H Bartolowits, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bruce D Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4504) (Log #W5091) Kenneth C Barton, Lancaster Bureau of Fire (Log #W2383) Michael Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Darwin Base, Oxnard City (Log #W1060) (Log #W5797) Greg Bass, Bellingham, WA (Log #W2393) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 Gary Batch, City of New London (Log #W134) RECOMMENDATION: Accept the entire document as Bruce Bateson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters proposed. (Log #W4870) SUBSTANTIATION: On behalf of the 110 members of IAFF Raymond T. Batko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Local 505 located in Decatur, Illinois we strongly support NFPA’s (Log #W4670) landmark new standard on fire department organization and Jeff Baugrud, Racine, WI (Log #W2371) deployment. The U.S. Fire Administration’s recent revision of Bruce Baurichter, Tacoma Professional Fire Fighters the America Burning — Revisited report noted widespread (Log #W2649) problems in staffing, response times, and insufficient fire Joseph W Bayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters department resources all across the country. This standard will (Log #W4801) go a long way toward educating communities about how resource James Bayster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4743) allocation impacts fire department service. Ed Beaman, Local 1908 (Log #W2674) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. John L. Beardmore, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #W6064) Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). Frank R Becker, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4553) ______Brian Belitsky, Yorkton Professional Fire Fighters Association (Log #W1227) (Log #3) Paul J. Bell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4890) 1710- 14 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle Mark P. Benko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Durbin, Decatur, IL (Log #W3905) Scott B. Adams, Markham Fire Department (Log #W1754) Lawrence A Benson, FDNY Division 6 (Log #W5468) Don Adsit, Sterling Hts Fire (Log #W6254) William Benson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John M. Agnole, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5647) (Log #W4446) Wayne G. Bernoska, Seminole County Professional Fire Fighters David Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5015) (Log #W2140) Terri Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5744) David J. Beyer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Allen R. Airesman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5112) (Log #W5508) Thomas R. Bichler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Akins, Fulton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2182) (Log #W4812) Richard Alarcan, Orange City FireFighters (Log #W1031) David Bickford, Bangor Fire Fighters Assoc Local 772 James Alden Strain, P. G. Fire Dept. (Log #W6040) (Log #W2242) William M. Alexander, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William T. Biggs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4826) (Log #W5599) James H Alfred, III, Prince Georges Co. Fire Dept Stacy Birdwell, Shreveport Firefighters Assn (Log #W848) (Log #W6194) Grant Blake, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local 2073 Tyrone Allen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5774) (Log #W2082) Penny Allen, P.G. County MD (Log #W5857) Ken Blanton, Kern County FireFighters (Log #W1153) Sean Alliger, Howard County Fire Rescue (Log #W6164) Richard Blohm, Hoboken Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley David Allmon, Columbus Fire Department (Log #W1223) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3645) Cary Altadonna, Centralia Fire Dept (Log #W1318) Michael Boback, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Esteban Alvarado, East Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W1325) (Log #W3877) Jim Anc, Kern Co. Fire Fighters (Log #W1252) Ronald J. Bodnar, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters

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(Log #W4602) (Log #W1912) Steven Bogard, Evansville Professonal Fire Fighters Timothy J. Carney, City of South Euclid Local 1065 (Log #W1228) (Log #W2277) Jose Bolanos, City of Vacaville (Log #W2611) Kevin Carnrick, Hingham Fire Department (Log #W1392) Richard J. Bon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Vincent R Carroccia, Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W2662) (Log #W5677) George Casey, Philadelphia Fire Department Local 22 Michael Bonham, Sacramento CA FF (Log #W2521) (Log #W2671) Christopher R. Booz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Keith Cash, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5176) (Log #W5810) William P Castillo, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6230) Kenneth D. Boozer, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local Mauro Cetra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4475) 2073 (Log #W2076) Richard Chaney, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W2650) George M Borek, Jersey City Fire Dept (Log #W2546) Leo Chapman, Regina, Sask (Log #W1918) John W. Bossard, Clarkesville Fire Department (Log #W75) Russ Chard, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1526) Doug Bouvy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4129) Roland M Chavez, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W2646) Duane Bowen, AH. Springs Professional Fire Fighter Frederick Childs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1234) (Log #W868) Paul Boyle, /Rep. Halifax Fire Fighters (Log #W1766) Pasquale Chirumbolo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Brace, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4291) (Log #W5149) Richard Bradley, Livermore Pleasanton Fire Department Andrew D. Chulack, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1183) (Log #W5365) Robert L Bragg, Charlottesville Fire Fighters (Log #W2659) Robert Ciesielski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Anthony C. Brahler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5659) (Log #W4315) Karl P. Cincotta, Dover Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Jean Brassard, Manchester Fire Dept (Log #W1700) (Log #W1710) Craig Braswell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2554) William Cinker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Brennan, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5828) (Log #W5347) George Clark, Utica, NY (Log #W1151) Robert F. Brett, British Columbia Professional Fire Fighters Roy P. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4106) Assoc (Log #W1990) Charles T. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dean Brewer, Waukesha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5689) (Log #W1262) Frederick G. Cleis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bob Briare, Marin FF (Log #W2429) (Log #W5039) Walter S. Bricker , Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Clifford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4075) (Log #W4618) Russell Bridle, Hampton Fire (Log #W1073) Pat Clinch, OAFF #448 (Log #W1475) Eddie J. Brooks, Peoria Fire Department Station #10 AK Cochran, Charlotte Fire Dept. (Log #W841) (Log #W1594) Dan Cochran, Coeur d’Alese Fire Dept (Log #W859) Paul Brown, Big Spring Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. William Cochran, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W1355) (Log #W40) Bill Coennen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3885) Glen T. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Matt Coewen, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1264) (Log #W3734) Bill Cole, Ottawa Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Local 162 George R. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2051) (Log #W5058) Charles Coleman, CDF FireFighters (Log #W1145) Lloyd J. Browning, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Andrew Collins, Colo Fighters (Log #W1478) (Log #W5431) Renee Coltz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5353) Michael J. Brozovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay C. Comfort, Bellingham, WA (Log #W2638) (Log #W3651) Eugene Compton, Richmond Fire/EMS Dept. (Log #W5929) Richard L. Brutt , Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Condon, Needham Fire Fighters (Log #W1525) (Log #W5575) Francis P. Conlon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas A Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4268) (Log #W3749) Dave Conner, , Joliet Fire Dept (Log #W2509) Joe Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3928) Joe Conway, Fire Fighter Local 311 (Log #W1275) Mike Buehler, DFFA (Log #W2288) Patrick Cook, Sacramento Area FireFighters (Log #W1180) Kenneth J. Burg (Log #Wilmington DE (Log #W5875) David Cook, Youngstown Fire Dept (Log #W1314) Robert A Burke, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Curtis M Cook, Willoughby Fire Dept (Log #W2598) (Log #W3995) Jeffrey Cook, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W2644) Christina Burkert, Protective Services Empl. Coalition Ross Cook, Montgomery Co. #1664 (Log #W6110) (Log #W15) Lora Cooke, Dale City, VA (Log #W2666) William Burkhard, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters James Cornyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4487) (Log #W1349) Jeff Cotner, Bloom TWP Fire Department (Log #W1580) Richard Burns, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John Cowan, Detroit Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2287) (Log #W3987) Jeffrey Cowley, Sedgwick County Firefighters (Log #W865) Michael Burrier, Salt Lake County Fire Dept (Log #W2676) Edward Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3699) Thomas C Busch, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6206) Robert Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5617) Rich Butcher, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W853) Lester H. Cragan III, Concord Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Donald J. Butler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W69) (Log #W4434) Darrel B. Crane, San Bernardino County Professional Firefighters John Buzon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5049) (Log #W946) David P Byrnes, Northern Ohio Fire Fighters (Log #W2278) Jeffery Crawford, Dale City, VA (Log #W2401) James M. Byrnes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Crawford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5683) (Log #W4961) Michael Calbick, Delta Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2678) Kevin M Crews, Sr., Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W6170) Michael V Callavo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph Crnkovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4863) (Log #W5447) John A. Cannon, Professional Fire Fighters of Maine Local 740 Robert D Cromie, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2236) (Log #W5033) Deborah Cantwell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters John Cross, Covington Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1324) (Log #W1347) Mike Crouse, IAFF Local F123 (Log #W2002) James Caputo, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W63) Dan Crow`, ? Professional FireFighters (Log #W1148) Hector Cardenas, IAFF Local 624 (Log #W2264) John D. Crowley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bryan Carnahan, Ottumwa, IA (Log #W2656) (Log #W4936) Henry R Carner, IAFF (Log #W6437) Stephen J Cummings, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Carney, Plain Township Fire Fighters Local 3850 (Log #W4511)

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Timothy Curtis, Beloit Fire Fighters (Log #W1259) Ronald D Dunfield, City of Jackson Fire Fighters (Log #W2686) Ronald Cushing, Manchester Fire Department Local 856 Terry Dunne, Peoria Fire Department (Log #W1600) (Log #W2260) Mike Durkin, Youngstown Fire (Log #W1312) Scott Cypher, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4333) Steve Durktt, Cuyahoga Falls Fire Department (Log #W1332) Michael D’Orazi, City of Alameda Fire Dept (Log #W2563) Barry Dutton, Bismark Fire Department Local 2468 Robert J. Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2230) (Log #W3854) Thomas J. Dutton, P.G. County MD (Log #W5851) Thomas C Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas A Early, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4971) (Log #W4771) Peter Dailleboust, Kitchener Professional Fire Fighters Carl Eastham, Huntington Professional Fire Fighters Association (Log #W4636) (Log #W1416) Jon Daly, Valapraiso Fire Fighters Local 1124 (Log #W27) Gary W. Edge, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W98) John Daly, Worcester Fire Dept (Log #W1471) Patrick Eggleston, Binghamton, NY (Log #W2594) Gene A Dangel, San Ramon Valley Fire (Log #W2555) John Eisel, Violet Twp Fire Dept (Log #W2508) Scott Daniel, Markham Professional Firefighter’s Assn Francis Elder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5551) (Log #W850) Daniel A. Elias, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Daniels, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5439) (Log #W4214) John M Elliott, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Michael J Danyko, Fairview Fire Dept (Log #W6188) (Log #W3725) Jeffrey Daum, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3835) James M. Ellis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bob Dausilio, Alhambra, CA (Log #W1066) (Log #W5472) Kevin G Davis, City of Sioux Falls Fire Rescue (Log #W2369) Oscar M Elmasian, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W3001) Phil Dawson, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Paul Elmendorf, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W2414) (Log #W2640) Frank Emiliano, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Kevin Dawyskibr, Weymouth Fire Department (Log #W1528) (Log #W1527) John DeJulio, Olathe Fire Dept (Log #W970) Dave Engler, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W1532) Brian Delfs, Tucson, AZ (Log #W1414) Thomas English, San Benandino City FireFighters Assoc Jeremiah J Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1185) (Log #W3817) Lisa Epps, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4481) Joseph C. Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Cynthia C Eu, Pasadena, MD (Log #W2992) (Log #W4057) Dennis Eulberg, North Metro Professional Fire Fighters William E. Dengler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1149) (Log #W4147) Timothy J Evangelista, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles W. Denham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5182) (Log #W4798) Scott Evans, Atlantic City Professional Fire Fighters ASSN Edward Derby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1152) (Log #W4393) Thomas M. Fahringer, Torrance Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1138 Joseph M. Deresh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2212) (Log #W4556) John M. Fanelli, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pat Devaney, Champaign Fire Fighters (Log #W2512) (Log #W5383) Robert Devitt, Fire Department (Log #W1418) Lt. Edmund Farley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy Robert Dhayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4918) (Log #W3691) Dale Farrell, I.A.F.F (Log #W1235) Mike DiBattiste, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard Farrell, Victoria Fire Fighters Local 730 (Log #W3518) (Log #W4677) Darlene Faulconer, Montgomery County Career Fire Fighters Paul Diedrich, Southgate Fire Dept (Log #W1326) Assn (Log #W1690) Jeffrey S. Dillon, Mesquite Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W46) Robert K Faurot, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2576) Thomas Dillon, Westerville Division Of Fire (Log #W1572) Michael Feeney, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 Steven Dirksen, Professional Fire Fighters of South Dakota (Log #W2200) (Log #W1246) Richard A. Fehl, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth J Diulus, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4632) (Log #W5188) Michael S. Ferke, Scranton Fire Fighters (Log #W1644) David Divosevic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kristine Ferreira, Upper Marlboro, MD (Log #W6236) (Log #W4543) James C. Ferris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Doan, Professional Fire Fighters of Idaho (PFFI) (Log #W3659) (Log #W1495) Charles J Feyh, Engine Co 319 FDNY (Log #W5434) Sheryl Dobbs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5653) James R Fiering, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Paul Dober, Lwr. Sack ville, NS (Log #W3011) (Log #W4088) James W Dolan, Sr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Larry Fierro, L.A. City Fire Department (Log #W1267) (Log #W5224) Barry Fitz, Fire Fighters Local 413 (Log #W1279) Stephen Domanski, Clinton Twp Fire Rescue (Log #W6248) Richard Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ken Donechie, Professional Fire Fighters/ Paramedic of Palm (Log #W5419) Beach Co. (Log #W1278) John T Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert C Dooley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4840) (Log #W4986) Mark Fitzsimmons, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Richard C. Doppes, Jr., Cincinnati Fire Division E-19 (Log #W1232) (Log #W5935) Dean Fletcher, Las Vegas, NV (Log #W1019) Don Dorsey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4222) Chris M. Flora, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James E Doucette, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2565) (Log #W5305) Charles Downer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bill Floyd, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5816) (Log #W5311) Richard Foerch, Woodbridge Fire Department (Log #W1187) Pat Doyle, Richmond Fire Fighters Association (Log #W1590) Patrick T Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Mark Drinkut, Anderson Fire Department (Log #W1330) (Log #W4070) Thomas P Drudy, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Timothy Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4033) (Log #W5293) Michael Drury, Merrill Fire Fighters (Log #W1255) John T. Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5407) Raymond H Ducover, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pasquale Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5019) (Log #W4321) Thomas M Duffola, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Michael G. Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3950) (Log #W4369) Patrick Duffy, Oak Forest Fire Fighters (Log #W1570) James R. Ford, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W58) Daniel Dugan, DC Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1672) James E. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tim Duncan, Clinton Twp Fire Dept (Log #W6260) (Log #W5402)

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Thomas F. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4603) (Log #W5456) Sandra Grubb, PGFD (Log #W6176) Don Forrest, United Fire Fighters of L.A. City (Log #W1269) Gerald E. Grunert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James A Fossos, Seattle Fire Dept (Log #W2518) (Log #W4612) Billy Foster, Memphis Fire Dept (Log #W1503) Donald J Guckert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerald J. Fox, Cheyenne Fire Department (Log #W2519) (Log #W5834) Gerald P. Fox, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Greg Gullner, Greenfield, WI (Log #W1256) (Log #W3842) Troy Haase, Fond Du Lac Professional Fire Fighters Paul Fredrich, Racing, WI (Log #W1146) (Log #W1251) Greg Frieders, Aurora Fire Fighters (Log #W1244) Ryan T. Haid, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5563) Carl Fritz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4530) Walter R. Haig, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Guy Fujio, Honolulu Fire Dept (Log #W2585) (Log #W4223) Mark Fuller, North Kansas Fire Fighters (Log #W2669) Rieck Hairston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard T Furlong, Harvey Fire Dept (Log #W2504) (Log #W3824) Mike Gabriel, Dubuque FireFighters (Log #W872) Mark Hall, Anchorage Fire Department (Log #W1519) Thomas M. Gabriel, Miami Assocation of Fire Fighters local 587 Robert Hall, Vancouver Fire & Rescue local 18 (Log #W2097) (Log #W1942) B R Hall, Nashville Fire Fighters (Log #W2663) Bradley P Gaiser, Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc of Scarsdale Dale A. Hall, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5502) (Log #W2417) John Halsey, CSPFFA (Log #W2661) James Galvin, Los Angeles City Fire Department (Log #W1270) Robert M Halston, Egelston Professional Fire Fighters Union Thomas Ganiere, /Rep. Ottawa Fire Fighters Local 523 3901 (Log #W1954) (Log #W2107) Ian Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Association Fred P Garavelli, Albany Fire Dept Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1236) (Log #W2668) Keith Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Tom Gardner, Sacramento, CA (Log #W1189) (Log #W2158) John R. Gardner, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John F. Hanley, Local 798 (Log #W1788) (Log #W4404) Lance Hanson, EauClaire Fire Fighters (Log #W1254) Gregory Garrison, Wyandotte Fire Dept (Log #W2688) Thomas Harify, Indiannapolis Fire Fighters (Log #W1333) Roger` Garver, Eugene, OR (Log #W1473) Eugene A. Harnish, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark P Garvey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3945) (Log #W3775) Larry J Hartley, Marion City Fire Dept (Log #W2685) Mark Gasiorowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Hassinger, Bucyrus Fire Fighters (Log #W1323) (Log #W5425) Charles C Hawkins, Jr, Seattle Fire Fighters Union (Log #W2370) Jeff Gattbreht, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W1482) Michael P Hawkins, Shaker Hts Fire Dept (Log #W2681) Phillip Gauer, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W2680) James L Heal, FDNY (Log #W5460) Gerald P Gay, Sanford Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1735) Tim Healy, City of Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W1261) Melvin S Gay, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5263) Alan Hefter, West Bend Fire Fighters (Log #W1245) Mark Gehri, City of Bedford Hts Fire Dept (Log #W2276) Steve Heim, Lincoln Park Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1313) Stan George, Portland Firefighters Assn. (Log #W854) Daniel Heintz, TL-11 (Log #W3451) Brian George, London Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2284) Rod Heivilin, Shoreline Fire Fighters (Log #W1498) Jerome Ghafoor, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David L. Helbling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5623) (Log #W4345) David E. Gibson, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc Local 58 Paul W Helms, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2070) (Log #W4953) John Gilleran, IAFF Local 3177 (Log #W2128) Michael Hemphill, Bogalusa Fire Department (Log #W1276) David W Gillotte, LA County Fire Fighters Local 1014 Ian Henis, Vancouver Fire and Rescue (Log #W844) (Log #W2677) Joe Henning, Fire Fighters Local 63 (Log #W1309) Joseph J. Giorgianni, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Sheldon J. Henry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4309) (Log #W5846) Michael Glaser, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Allen Henson, Littleton Fire Fighters Local 2086 (Log #W2218) (Log #W4100) Thomas Herak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Alfred Q. Glaze, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4250) (Log #W4731) James A. Herbst, Great Lakes Fire Department Local F37 Chuck Glines, Vondenberg Fire, Local F116 (Log #W1972) (Log #W1924) Jerome J Gnipp, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Donald Heritage, Joplin, MO (Log #W2494) (Log #W3715) Aaron Herschman, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Co. 49 Henry J Goliat, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W6134) (Log #W5287) Mark Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4416) John A. Gombita, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Al Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5299) (Log #W5490) Gary W. Hickey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Antonio Gomes, Easton Fire Dept (Log #W1798) (Log #W5701) Freddie Gonzales, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fred Higgins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4464) (Log #W5073) David L. Higgs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pedro A. Gonzalez, Hoboken Uniformed Fire Fighter Local (Log #W4769) 1078/Rep. (Log #W2413) Robert B. Hikifer, Detroit (Log #W6158) Doug A. Goodman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Damon T. HIll, Sr., PGH Professional Fire Fighters/Rep. (Log #W5133) Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6486) William Michael Gorham, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Barry Hilling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4889) (Log #W5245) Nick Hillner, Wichita Falls, TX (Log #W1008) Michael Gorizre, Associated Fire Fighters Mattteson Larry Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3994) (Log #W2526) Mark Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4900) John P. Gourley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rick Hinchcliffe, Greeley-Union Coloney Fire Rescue Authority (Log #W4297) (Log #W1222) Richard Greene, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerald Hirschfeld, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3794) (Log #W3712) David Greenwood, Birmingham Fire Department (Log #W2505) Brian Hishinumn, Los Angeles City Fire Department David G Gregorich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1272) (Log #W4822) Ron Hittle, Stockton Fire Department (Log #W2188) Vincent Griffin, Oaklawn, IL (Log #W1900) Mark Hoffmann, Oakland Fire Dept (Log #W2529) Ryan M. Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Hogan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5671) (Log #W4585) David Hogelin, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W1486) Sean Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5738) Mark Hogrebe, Allen Parkfire Department (Log #W1577) Robert W Griffiths, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Toussaint M Holland, Fairfax County (Log #W6152)

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William Hollander, K.C.Ks Fire Dept (Log #W1266) Glenn Keiffer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jim Holmes, London Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3764) (Log #W2641) Francis Kelly, San Fransisco FireFighters (Log #W1213) Paul R Holmquist, Yarmouth Permanent Fire Fighters Michael Kelly, Livonia Fire Fighters (Log #W1243) (Log #W2654) Michael T. Kelly, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary Homberg, Kankakee Fire Fighters Local 653 (Log #W2787) (Log #W4516) Rick Honsberger, Thorold Professional Fire Fighters Eugene T Kelty, Jr, Engine Co 10 (Log #W5437) (Log #W1809) Ian M Kemp, Fort Lauderdale Fire Fighters (Log #W1237) Eric Hopp, Elgin, IL (Log #W1311) Jeff Kemp, Richmond Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2639) Stephen Horne, IAFF Local 822 (Log #W3431) Francis Kennedy, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1554) Leo Horton, S Lake Tahoe, CA (Log #W2653) Robert J. Kerestes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy R. Hottenfeller, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5097) (Log #W5484) Timothy Kernan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Howard, City of Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W155) (Log #W5141) William A Howe, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W2495) Joe Kerr, Orange Co. Fire Authority (Log #W1142) Paul Hoy, Torrance Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1248) Maureen Kerrigan, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Gerry Huget, /Rep. Sask. Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W4023) (Log #W1760) Robert E Kiefer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bobby G. Humphryes, Birmingham Fire Fighters Assoc. Local (Log #W4688) 117 (Log #W1966) Patrick Kilbane, Janesville Fire Fighters (Log #W2648) John D. Hunt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4985) Joseph J. Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Guy D. Hunter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4399) (Log #W5396) David Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5008) Tom Huston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4375) Michael T. King, Fairfax County (Log #W6146) Brad Hutchings, North Hampton Fire & Rescue (Log #W1783) Stephen J Kinneavy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph C. Imburgia, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W4695) #W5786) James M. Kirby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Stanley W. Ingle, Knoxville Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W2343) (Log #W5593) Dennis E. Isaac, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Stephen C. Klein, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2039) (Log #W4339) Russell Jack, Everett Fire Department (Log #W1464) Robert Knerr, Navsta Ingleside Fire Dept (Log #W2507) Matt Jackson, Junction City Firefighters Assn (Log #W866) Kevin Knight, Aurora Fire Dept. (Log #W1063) Shawn R Jackson, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1750) Charles Koelker, Cumberland, MD (Log #W2652) Brian K. Jackson, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul C. Konarowski, Oshawa FireFighters Assocation (Log #W3765) (Log #W52) Carl Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4046) Gerald Kosaki, Hawaii Fire Dept (Log #W2588) Kevin Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John F. Kramer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4239) (Log #W5390) Philip Jandrokovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John J Kreger, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5275) (Log #W4153) Norman Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Randy T Jankowski, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3809) (Log #W3797) Alan Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5713) Joseph J Janosko, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Kruger, San Fransisco Fire Fighters (Log #W1209) (Log #W4873) Brian J. Krull, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5605) Dave Jarvis, Reno Airport Fire Dept (Log #W2374) Jay M. Kunkel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5557) Roger C Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Michael Kurtsinger, Louisville Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4159) (Log #W2280) Vince Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Elizabeth C Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5086) (Log #W3739) Ralph Jedd, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4080) David H Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4574) William J. Jenkins , III, Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6103) Thomas R La montagne, Portsmouth Fire Dept (Log #W1705) Paul M. Jirak, /Rep. New York City Fire Department John P Labishak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3522) (Log #W3903) Richard Jock, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4531) David Lachenauer, Watertown Fire Fighters (Log #W3005) James Johnson, IAFF Local F-88 (Log #W179) Ed Lacombe, New Bedford MA (Log #W5863) Jeff Johnson, Oshkosh Fire Dept (Log #W863) Daniel Laffan, Taunton Fire Department (Log #W1552) Randy Johnson, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W1720) David Lang, Professional FireFighters of Hampton N.H. Robert W. Johnson, Harwich Fire Department Local 2124 (Log #W1034) (Log #W2027) Leonard K. Lang, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay Johnson, San Mateo County FF (Log #W2592) (Log #W5792) Shana Johnson, Rescus 14 Cincinnati Fire Division Brian Lange, Dekalb Fire Fighters (Log #W1277) (Log #W5941) George Lange, City of Strongsville (Log #W2601) J.E. Jones, Toront Professional Fire Fighters Association Thomas W Larbig, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1239) (Log #W4232) Fletcher Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Latta, OCPFA (Log #W1038) (Log #W4542) John Lavelle, Tower Ladder 54 (Log #W5451) David W. Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William J. Lawrence, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5840) (Log #W4452) Timothy J. Joyce, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Todd Leake, Ventura County Professional FireFighter Assoc. (Log #W5532) (Log #W1175) William F. Juergen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert H Lee, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2590) (Log #W5514) James P Lee, Whitpain Fire Dept (Log #W2664) Randall Jute, Lake Worth, FL (Log #W2386) Daniel Leffler, University Hts Fire Dept (Log #W2599) Gregg Kadow, Manitowoc Professional Fire Fighters Al Leier, Prince George Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1233) (Log #W1263) Jordan Lemieux, Holyoue (Log #W1480) Fred Kaeberlein, Erie FireFighters (Log #W1022) Charles J Lenz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Emily Kane, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2392) (Log #W4595) Tom Karnas, Toronto Fire FIghters Assoc (Log #W1238) Dennis Leone, St. Louis Co. Fire Fighters (Log #W1201) John Kastran, Rochester Hills, MI (Log #W1229) W.James Leve, Portage Fire Fighters (Log #W1354) William Kauahikach, HFFA (Log #W1205) Mark T. Lewandowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4123) Greg Keefe, Newark, Ohio Professional Fire Fighters David J. Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1351) (Log #W3755)

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Charles L Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Frederick H. Mays, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4165) (Log #W5780) Varnell Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5665) William F Mazon, III, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters William R Ley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4565) (Log #W3866) Mark Libeuatoe, Canton Professional Fire Fighters Lawrence Mazza, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1315) (Log #W5335) Bruce Linner, BC-5 Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Daniel McCarthy, Los Angeles City Fire Department (Log #W4664) (Log #W1274) Tim Littlefield, Algonquin Lake In The Hill Fire Fighters Union Terrence L McCarthy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1679) (Log #W4977) Bob Livingston, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council Mark McCormick, Santa Rosa Fire Fighters (Log #W2404) (Log #W1778) Roy McDonald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Locniker, Fargo Fire Department (Log #W1191) (Log #W3673) Steve Lodmann, Blue Ash FireFighters (Log #W1215) Timothy McDonnell, Indiannapolis Metropolitan Professional Paul Lombardo, Laharra FireFighters (Log #W1143) Fire Fighters (Log #W1334) Steve Long, K.C.K. Fire Dept (Log #W867) John McDonough, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Larry Long, Stockton FIre Dept. (Log #W1147) (Log #W5230) Kevin R. Long, Mashpee Fire Fighters Local 2519 (Log #W2248) David M. McEndoo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert Losket, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4996) (Log #W4905) Robert F Lostetter, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ken McFarland, IAFF Local 42 (Log #W2432) (Log #W5158) John A McGee, Manchester PFF (Log #W2645) Tom Lovell, Boise FireFighters (Log #W974) R L McGhee, IAFF Local 176 (Log #W1740) Craig W Lowe, City of Santa Rosa Fire Dept (Log #W2551) Richard L. McGrail, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gregory A Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5329) (Log #W4584) David McIntyre, Clinton Township Fire Department Local 1381 Richard E Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2272) (Log #W5123) Dennis McKnight, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark D. Lundy, City of Worthington Division of Fire & EMS (Log (Log #W4724) #W2170) Dennis McKnight, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert Luther, Madison Fire Department (Log #W1249) (Log #W4725) James Luttrell, Sacramento Area FireFighters (Log #W1182) J. David McLean, Marion, IA (Log #W857) Dennis Lyman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edgar W McLean, Burlington Fire Dept (Log #W2380) (Log #W4624) Michael McMahon, Hampton, NH (Log #W2511) Paul Lyons, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4202) Mike McManus, Binghamton, NY (Log #W3007) Joseph F. Machovec, Baltimore City Fire Officers Assoc Darren M McNeil, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1582) (Log #W5251) Richard Macklin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pat Mcosker, Los Angeles City Fire Department (Log #W1273) (Log #W5413) Mike McOsker, United Fire Fighters of Los Angeles Robert G. MacMaster, Augusta Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W2522) (Log #W2021) Larry J. McPhail, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association Joseph Magliocca, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5725) (Log #W5269) William McQuillen, Portsmouth FireFighters Assoc Michael F Magnan (Log #Woonsocket Fire Dept (Log #W1793) (Log #W1072) Elmer Mahaffy, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W6058) James W Meinzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Roger J Maher, III, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4928) (Log #W4789) Alan Menillo, Fainfield Fire Fighters (Log #W2385) Chris Mahon, Ventura County Fire (Log #W1068) Joe Meringer, Oshawa Fire Fighters Association (Log #W1226) Thomas Makar, Wilkes-Barre Fire Fighters (Log #W2657) Joe Merritt, Fairfax Fire Rescue FS 18 (Log #W6076) Brian Makey, Alberta Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W846) Barry Mesley, Miami Township Fire & EMS (Log #W1327) J Malleod, Van Fire and Rescue (Log #W1224) Donald Messier, Somersworth, NH (Log #W836) Paul Mallery, Engine Co 10 (Log #W5442) Don Mette, Sacramento Metro Fire Dist (Log #W2567) David Manfredo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rick Michael, West Chicago, IL (Log #W1139) (Log #W4285) Robert W. Michel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kelly Mannion, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5611) (Log #W3918) Allen Middlelton, Charlotte Fire Dept (Log #W1280) Brian Manship, Selma, IN (Log #W1329) Chris Mille, Delhi TWP Fire Department (Log #W1328) Kevin Manson, Jr., West Hartford Fire Dept. (Log #W5917) James Miller, Cedar Rapids, IN (Log #W855) Brian Markewinski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey Miller, Town of Beloit FIre Department (Log #W1260) (Log #W4422) Michael R. Milligan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg B Markley, Kent Fire Fighters (Log #W1730) (Log #W5323) John Marks, Pittsburgh FireFighters (Log #W869) Reuben M. Millsaps, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W92) Michael J. Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael E Minton, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3665) (Log #W2513) William Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Mirt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5732) (Log #W3871) John Misencik, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Art Marshall, Santa Clara County Fire Fighters (Log #W2520) (Log #W4737) Wiliam Martin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Erwin Miske, City Of Rocky River (Log #W1583) (Log #W4882) Kenneth Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Elmer Martinez, Pocatello Firefighters (Log #W971) (Log #W4196) Patrick Martyn, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn Christopher Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2595) (Log #W5478) Art Martynuska, Johnstown Fire Fighters (Log #W2569) Leroy Mobley, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Keith O Mary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5281) (Log #W5629) Thomas M Marzheuser, Cincinnati Fire Dept (Log #W2606) Thomas J. Moffitt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Massone, San Diego Federal Fire Fighters (Log #W80) (Log #W4683) Richard V. Mastandrea, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Mogavero, Toronto Fire Service (Log #W1230) (Log #W4780) Paul Molkenbuhr, Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Dept Mark A. Mastison, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 (Log #W2682) (Log #W1906) Jay Montenbrey, IAFF Local 2915 (Log #W2015) Jim Matthews, Engine #2 West Hartford CT (Log #W5911) Joe Montoya, Los Angeles County FireFighter’s (Log #W1184) Gregory M Mooney, Massport Fire Fighters (Log #W2660) Joe Matuszewski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian Moore, Vacaville FireFighters (Log #W1014) (Log #W4948)

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Rick Moore, Fire Fighters Association Local 36/Rep. District of (Log #W3963) Columbia Fire Fighters (Log #W1457) Greg Parker, San Bernandino City Fire Fighters (Log #W2514) Travis O. Moore, San Antonio Fire Dept. (Log #W5899) Bill Parlow, Brockton Fire Fighters (Log #W1565) Kevin R Morgan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Hugo Patino, Modesto City Fire Fighters (Log #W2543) (Log #W5239) Rick Patterson, Prince George’s County (Log #W6122) Chris Morlan, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6212) Richard H Pattison, Houston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Michael R. Morris, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1658) (Log #W1715) Jeff Morris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5212) Rickie Paul, Norwood Fire Dept (Log #W2510) Jeffrey Morrow, Taylor Pfofessional Fire FIghters (Log #W1242) Lou Paulson, United PFF of Contra Costa County (Log #W2571) Donald R. Moses, McDonough, GA (Log #W2146) Kevin Pearce, Albuquerque Fire Fighter’s Union (Log #W842) Leo Mostyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4279) Christopher M Pedrotty, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Michael J. Mullen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W5194) (Log #W4303) Jeffry M. Pegg, Local 344 (Log #W6140) Adrian Munday, Fairfax, VA (Log #W1522) Michael Peltz, Springfield Missouri Fire FIghters (Log #W2658) Michael Murphy, Flint Fire Fighters (Log #W1322) Greg Perdue, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5067) Victor D Muto, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Perkins, Pittsburgh FireFighters (Log #W870) (Log #W5113) Lawrence Perkins, Seabrook Proppestonal FireFighters Phillip Myers, Park Forest Fire Fighers Assoc (Log #W2176) (Log #W1010) Lawrence Naddy, Professional Fire Fighters & Paramedics of Rard Perkins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4256) Palm Beach (Log #W1310) James Perrott, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5218) Tom Neal, St. Cloud Fire Dept (Log #W2655) Frank R. Perry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Sean P. Neary, Detriot Fire Department (Log #W34) (Log #W5371) James Nedwidek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert F Pesa, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4811) (Log #W3957) William Peterson, Coon Rapids Fire Dept (Log #W2547) Fernando Negrete, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 Thomas Petronio, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2194) (Log #W4922) Michael G. Neibauer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald W Petschke, Buffalo Fire Dept (Log #W2667) (Log #W4351) Billy C. Petty, Mesquite FireFighters Assoc (Log #W9) Douglas Neil, Great Falls Fire/ Rescue (Log #W1476) Mike Pfeiffer (Log #Whitby Professional Fire Fighters Assocation Dan A. Neill, City of Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W874) (Log #W161) Edward A Nemeth, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W2281) Dennis Phillips, Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W873) Tony Neratini, Vancouver Fire Rescue Services (Log #W3015) Ron Phillips, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1487 Jeff Nester, Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2164) (Log #W2620) Frank Pierce, Shelby Twp Fire Dept (Log #W2279) Donald E. Newham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gregory Pietras, Chicopee Fire Fighters (Log #W1535) (Log #W5148) Larry Pilcora, Hanover Pack Professional Fire Fighters Les Newman, Thunder Bay Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2368) (Log #W2496) John A. Piotrowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Nichols (Log #Waco Professional Fire fighters (Log #W3977) (Log #W2609) Joseph Piro, Easton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2387) Chris Nickoloff, South Metro Professional Fire Fighter Dan R. Platt, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6090) (Log #W1317) Jason Plogmann, Cincinnati Fire Division - D3 (Log #W6034) David J Nicotra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jerry Pobicki, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3784) (Log #W4499) H. John Powell, Haverhill FireFighters (Log #W1029) Thomas J. Niemiec, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James L Powers, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4718) (Log #W3828) John R Niemiec, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Monte W. Prasin, Decatur, IL (Log #W86) (Log #W6266) Douglas J. Praskovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott Nishisaka, Burbank Fire Fighters (Log #W2366) (Log #W5581) Michael H. Nolf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth Pravek, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W862) (Log #W4440) Daniel Preston, Ventura County Professional FireFighters Stephen Norris, L.A. City Fire Department (Log #W1268) (Log #W1186) Ronald F. Novak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Damon Price, Fairfax Co. Fire & Rescue (Log #W5869) (Log #W3915) Christopher D. Prickett, Dekalb Professional Fire Fighters local Hector Nunez, Tyler Fire Department/Rep. Tyler Professional 1492 (Log #W1936) Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W104) Michael Priester, Orange Fire/ Rescue (Log #W837) Richard O’Brien, Professional Fire Fighters & Paramedics of NC Tommy K. Propst, Orange County Fire & Rescue, Local 2057 (Log #W2367) (Log #W2134) Denis J O’Connor, Jr, Engine Co 319 (Log #W5454) Michael Pudup, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David O’Leary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4571) (Log #W5750) Luis Puentes, East Moline, IL (Log #W2347) Kevin O’Mara, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W1190) Kevin Quinn, Elk Grove Professional Fire Fighters Assn Perry Oldenburg, Boise Fire Fighter (Log #W1490) (Log #W2687) Walter T. Oldham, Memphis Fire Department local 1784 Michael Quinn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1996) (Log #W4707) Charles Oleary, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David A Rabb, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4178) (Log #W4184) Donald R Olguin, Boulder Fire Fighters (Log #W2515) Frank Raffa (Log #Worcester Fire Fighters Association Gordon Olson, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1725) (Log #W1560) Leonard Orlando, Green Bay Fire Department Local 141 Ray Rahne, Colorado Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1558) (Log #W2549) Robert A. Rajnovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Orton, Vaughan Fire Fighters Local 1595 (Log #W2499) (Log #W5341) Richard Osborn, Glenside Fire Protection Dist (Log #W2354) David A. Raleigh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles A. Ossler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4701) (Log #W3722) Rob Rankin, Local 1053 (Log #W2324) Mark Ouellette, Professional Fire Fighters of New Hamphsire Norman D. Rathke, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2329) (Log #W5539) Raymond Palczynski, D.A.P.F.F (Log #W1501) Jeffrey Rawson, IAFF/ PFFM (Log #W839) Donald J. Palmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark D. Rectenwald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4357) (Log #W4962) Richard T Paltaut, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W2415) Robert Redente, City of East Haven Local 1205 (Log #W2008) Brian Reed, Anch Fire Dept (Log #W1518) David J Panchura, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Mark Reed, St. Helen’s Professional Fire Fighters Assoc

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(Log #W1531) Reid Scharding, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael L Reed, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W2679) (Log #W5079) Michael Reeves, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Harry Scherer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4387) (Log #W1350) Paul Schermann, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W1361) Jim Reidy, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters Assn Darren Schimke, Grant Forte Fire FIghters (Log #W972) (Log #W2691) Don Schleich, Washington Township Fire Department Local 3036 Thomas A. Reinheimer, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2045) (Log #W5028) James Schlener, Bethleham Fire Fighters (Log #W1144) Larry A Rekasie, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Karl Schmaelzle, Agawam, MA (Log #W1395) (Log #W4049) William A Schmidt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Remillard, Orange , CA (Log #W1042) (Log #W5164) Steven Repp, Lewton, ID (Log #W858) Dale J. Schneider, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Rhame, Orange Conty Fire Rescue (Log #W1803) (Log #W4243) Mike Rhyner, Tucson Fire Fighter (Log #W2672) Donald H. Schroeder, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters Brian Rice, Sacramento Metro Fire District (Log #W1192) (Log #W2116) Michael Richards, Poquonnock Bridge Professional Fire Fighters Michael J Schwarz, Lafayette Fire Dept (Log #W2690) Assn (Log #W2604) Thomas W Schweitzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy Richardson, Beaumont Professional Fire FIghters (Log #W5044) (Log #W1140) Rick Scofield, Portland Firefighters Assn (Log #W856) Cecil D Ridge, Modesto Fire Fighters (Log #W2692) Harold D Scoggines, Glendale Fire Fighters (Log #W2651) Jon Riley, Vallejo Fire Dept (Log #W2557) Sam Scoles, Kern County FireFighters (Log #W1154) Joseph J Rimassa, Ladder Co 82 FDNY (Log #W5462) Charles Scott, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W840) Clifton Rineheart, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6224) John Sdonik (Log #West Allis FIre Fighters (Log #W1253) Edward Riveros, Los Angeles City Fire Department (Log #W1271) Mark S Selke, IAFF Local F-151 (Log #W1984) Keith Roach, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4749) David Sesenberg, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W1359) Scotty Roberts, Henrico Fire, VL (Log #W864) Robert M. Seybold, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert L Robertson, DeKalb County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4762) (Log #W2152) John L. Sharpe, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Robinson, Clayton County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3896) (Log #W122) Patrick E. Shaw, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John T Robinson, Newport Professional Fire Fighters Union (Log #W5587) (Log #W2684) Dennis Shearn, Orange County Prof. Firefighters (Log #W1077) Lester A Robinson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Earl Shepherd, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4190) (Log #W4469) Thomas J. Robinson, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Paul Shively, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4141) (Log #W6128) Robert S. Shuff, Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6101) Scott Rogers, West Metro Fire Fighters (Log #W968) Robert D Shuster, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jack Rogers, Denver Fire Department (Log #W1194) (Log #W3976) John Rogers, Green Bay Fire Fighters (Log #W1257) William Sinagra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Darryl Ross, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5762) (Log #W5317) Daniel M Ross, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6242) Frank P. Sinatra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Neil Rothhaupt, IAFF Local F-170 (Log #W1978) (Log #W5377) Denton Rourke, Prince Georges County MD Fire/EMS Joe Singer, Waco, TX (Log #W2282) (Log #W5893) Craig S Slatcher, City of Wilmington, Ladder #1 (Log #W6182) Paul Routon, Louisville Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1319) Art Smith, EDF FireFighters (Log #W1056) Wayne E. Royster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David B. Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4998) (Log #W4458) Kenneth Ruckel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael G Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4135) (Log #W5206) Barry Rudy, IAFF F-221 (Log #W146) George S Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Roger Rupp, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W2693) (Log #W5257) Carroll Rushing, Baton Rouge Association of Fire Fighters John Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5707) (Log #W849) Rick Snodgrass, Lakewood Fire Dept (Log #W2695) Edward E. Ryan, Worcester Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1551) Gerald S. Snyder, Fort Drum Fire Department Local F 105 Edwin R Salinetro, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1960) (Log #W4912) John A. Snyder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Victor M Salis, Hawaii County Fire Dept (Log #W2574) (Log #W3966) Gary Samuels, Henrico Professional Firefighters Assoc. Michael Solida, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W852) (Log #W5804) Kenneth A Samuels, Kansas City Fire Dept (Log #W1695) Troy D Sonichsen, Sioux City Fire Dept (Log #W2673) William Sancmjz, N.O.F.F.A (Log #W851) Douglas Sontea, Rock Island Arsenal Professional Fire Fighters Scott W. Sanders, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Assoc. (Log #W838) (Log #W4834) Thomas B. Sowinski, City of Wilmington, DE (Log #W6070) Martin W. Sanders, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Howard Stahl, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log #W5496) (Log #W1339) Thomas Santaniello, Springfield MA Fire Dept (Log #W1466) Jay Stalcup, Lawrence Fire Dept (Log #W2541) John Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters George C Stanley, Redford Twp Fire Fighter Union (Log #W4005) (Log #W2283) Thomas Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Brian Stark, Hamilton Professional FireFighters Assoc. (Log #W4014) (Log #W21) Donald Santoriello, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Starofsky, City of Rock Island Fire Dept (Log #W2608) (Log #W4659) Michael Steinbaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Eric Sargent, CDF FireFighters (Log #W1150) (Log #W4786) Richard Sargent, Centerville-Osterville Fire Fighters Local 2346 Kevin P Steiner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2254) (Log #W3783) Robert Saros, Mishawaka Fire (Log #W2286) Edward J. Stengel, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Sass, Kingston Fire Dept (Log #W2516) (Log #W4846) Robert W Saunders, Orange County Fire Rescue (Log #W173) David Stephenson, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Anthony C Savino, Blue Island Professional Fire Fighters Local 1487 (Log #W2058) (Log #W167) Mike Stockstead, Golden Valley FireFighters (Log #W871) Robert Scates, Chicago Firefighters Union (Log #W861) Kirk Schalan, Meridian Professional FireFighters Association (Log #W1240)

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Eugene E. Stout, Muskegon Fire Fighters Local 370 Richard Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1948) (Log #W4065) Charles Stowell, Richmond (Log #W5905) Mark Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5695) John G Strawn, Omaha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2373) David L Wade, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W6218) John Stringert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4327) Greg Wagner, Brookfield Professional Fire Fighters Local 2051 Mark Stuart, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4493) (Log #W2224) Edward Suchacek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William P Wagner, II, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5520) (Log #W3857) Douglas P. Sudik, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Kenneth A Wahlen, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6052) (Log #W4108) Don Suley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4711) Joe Walko, Erie FireFighters (Log #W1027) James Sullivan, Springfield MA Fire Dept (Log #W1470) Jeff Wallin, Moorhead Fire Fighters (Log #W941) Robert C Sullivan, Harrisburg, PA (Log #W2517) Scott P Walsh, East Pointe Fire Dept (Log #W2637) Michael Sullivan, Nashua Fire Fighters (Log #W3427) John C. Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ronald Summers, Hamilton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4381) (Log #W1225) John P Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5200) Peter Svoboda, Chesterfield Professional Fire FIghters Stanley J Walter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W963) (Log #W5130) Joseph Swanson, New Rochelle Fire Department TL-11 R-4 James Walters, Skokit Fire Dept (Log #W843) (Log #W3449) Gary E. Walz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5569) David Sweetland, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Joseph G Ward, Chestnut Hill, MA (Log #W2381) (Log #W6272) Stephen Warner, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W2424) Donald Swickline, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4091) (Log #W4206) Clarence L. Swindle, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5635) (Log #W4756) Stanley Szymanski, Wilmington DE (Log #W5881) Chris Wathen, Local 3217 (Log #W2675) James T. Talak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frank Watts, Amarillo Fire Department (Log #W1308) (Log #W4428) Douglas W. Watts, Monmouth Fire Department Local 1702 John A.E. Tanaka, Evertee Fire Department (Log #W1491) (Log #W2064) James C. Tarbert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Woodrow E. Webb, Williamsburg Fire Department (Log #W5756) (Log #W1666) James R. Taylor, City of Upper Arlington (Log #W31) Raymond C Webber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Taylor, Brampton Professional Fire Fighters Association (Log #W4941) (Log #W845) Jeffrey Weidner, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters Mark E Thomas, Orland Fire Fighters (Log #W1079) (Log #W1265) Gerard Thompson, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc David Wells, Springfield Fire Department (Log #W1462) (Log #W110) August Werner, Belleville Fire Fighters (Log #W2350) David Thompson, Orange Cunty Professional FireFighters Assoc Pat West, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W1685) (Log #W1057) Timothy Westwood, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kendall Thompson, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Dept FS24-C (Log #W4858) (Log #W5887) Buddy Wheatley, Covington Professional Fire Fighters Calvin Thompson, Priince Rupert (Log #W6087) (Log #W1320) John G. Thomson, San Diego Fire Fighters (Log #W2524) Bruce White, Waterford Professional Fire Fighters Dean Thornberry, Brush Prairie, WA (Log #W2419) (Log #W1241) Michael E Thorp, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W2643) Terence M White, Prince Georges County Fire/EMS Dept James Tob in, Newport Fire Fighters (Log #W1198) (Log #W3683) Gordon K K Tom, Honlulu Fire Dept (Ret) (Log #W2579) Harold E. White, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George J. Tomasak, Luzerne County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3746) (Log #W1650) William M. White, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James E. Toosan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5822) (Log #W5641) Alvin White, Houston Fire Dept. (Log #W5923) Rafael A. Torros, El Paso Assocation of Fire Fighters Steven E. White, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W128) (Log #W6046) Scott E. Townsend, Freeport Fire Department Local 441 Richard Wiegand, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2206) (Log #W5768) Mark Train, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log #W5719) Steve Wilding, Oak Creek Fire Fighters (Log #W1084) Kimberly R. Trautman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary H Wilds, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4011) (Log #W3939) Ronald A Truver, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Wilkerson, Little Rock Fire Fighters (Log #W2665) (Log #W5104) James Williams, Amarillo Fire Fighters Association Steven Turner, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1745) (Log #W1281) Dennis Tyler, Muncie Fire Fightersw (Log #W1331) Robert Williams, Scranton Fire (Log #W1609) Ronald Ullrich, Port of Seattle Fire Dept (Sea-Tac Airport) (Log Steven D Williams, Houston PFFA (Log #W2642) #W860) Randall Williams, City of Gary Fire Dept (Log #W2689) Keith Underwood, Springfield Fire Fighters Local 37 Scot A. Williams, Prince George’s County Fire/EMS (Log #W1449) (Log #W6116) John Ungerman, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Donald Wilson, Boone, Iowa (Log #W1141) (Log #W6432) Aaron L Winslow, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ben` Upton, Royal Oak Fire Dept (Log #W1316) (Log #W5170) David Valego, Chicopee Fire Department (Log #W1401) Jeffrey Winters, Sioux Falls Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1247) David Valego, Chicopee Fire Department (Log #W1405) Larry Wishba, Orland Fire Fighters Local 2754 (Log #W1930) Al Valerion, Waterbury Fire Department (Log #W1321) Jeffrey V Witmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Vannlicchi, San Fransisco FireFighters (Log #W1214) (Log #W4522) Erik T. Vater, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4262) John W Witner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Louis Vellucci, Yonkers Fire Fighters Local 628 (Log #W2378) (Log #W4118) Thomas Veri, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4274) Frederick Wler, Wellesley, MA (Log #W1398) John Vietmeier, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeanette Woldseth, /Rep. Bellevue Fire Fighters IAFF local 1604 (Log #W3705) (Log #W2670) Johnny Villarreal, Houston Fire Department (Log #W116) Bob Wolf, CDF Fire Fighter (Log #W1172) Jeffrey Vogts, Prince Georges Co Fire EMS Dept (Log #W6200) Michael Woodzicka, Appleton Professional Fire Fighters Gary Vokovitch, Wauwatosa Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1250) (Log #W1258)

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Thomas J Wosko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5057) John R Arnold, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Roger Wright, Tucson, AZ (Log #W1407) (Log #W4173) Keith Wright, Anne Arundel County, MD (Log #W1529) John W Arruda, Taunton Fire Dept (Log #W1834) John J Wright, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Bob Arzave, San Fransisco Fire Fighters (Log #W1479) (Log #W3891) Steven D Ashe, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Doug Wriston, Marin FF (Log #W2427) (Log #W3810) Diane Wyman, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W2694) David Atkin, San Ramon Valley Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2400) Troy Wyms, Brownsburg Fire Territory (Log #W1335) Paul Atkinson, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn James P. Wyzomirski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1506) (Log #W5545) Robert Aubrey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy L Yakich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3682) (Log #W4852) Mark Avery, Guilford ParkSecondary (Log #W6417) Paul Yobbi, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4651) Frank Avilla, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6096) V Stephen Yocham, Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W140) Kelly Bach, Tualatin Valley Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1773) Lester Yon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5464) Jaswinder Badesha, Surrey, BC (Log #W6373) Bob York, Wichita Falls, TX (Log #W1006) Jack Ballinger, IAFF Local 754 (Log #W2034) James Young, Weymouth Fire Department (Log #W1568) Thomas R. Baltos, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Young, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4410) (Log #W4030) Daniel H Zahn, Sterling Fire Dept (Log #W2647) Robert Balzer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David A. Zapf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5359) (Log #W4040) Bruce D Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David K. Banjanin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5092) (Log #W6454) Michael Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert T. Bankert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5798) (Log #W5527) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 Richard Banske, Calumet City Fire Dept (Log #W2340) RECOMMENDATION: Accept the entire document as Howard Barber, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6427) proposed. Chris Barden, Riverside City Fire Fighters (Log #W1443) SUBSTANTIATION: On behalf of the 110 members of IAFF Julius Bardics, Surrey, BC (Log #W6400) Local 505 located in Decatur, Illinois we strongly support NFPA Scott Barratt, Escondido Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1542) for taking a stand to protect the health and safety of fire fighters Raymond L. Barringer, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters and civilians. This standard will show government officials what (Log #W3932) resources are necessary to protect the lives and property of the Mark J. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3846) citizens we serve and also make sure that we have sufficient William F. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters people and tools to do our job safely. (Log #W4642) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. Michael Bartholomew, New Rochelle Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #W3453) Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). Ronald H Bartolowits, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4505) ______Kenneth C Barton, Lancaster Bureau of Fire (Log #W2297) Darwin Base, Oxnard City Fire (Log #W1396) Greg Bass, Bellingham, WA (Log #W2307) (Log #4) Gurclarn Sil Bass, Surrey, BC (Log #W6351) 1710- 15 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle Gary Batch, City of New London (Log #W135) SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Durbin, Decatur, IL Bruce Bateson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott B. Adams, Markham Fire Department (Log #W1755) (Log #W4872) Don Adsit, Sterling Hts Fire (Log #W6253) David Bathurst, Iaff Local 3359 (Log #W1421) John M. Agnole, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Raymond T. Batico, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4447) (Log #W4672) Jim Ahl, Kern County Fire Fighters (Log #W1540) Thomas Bauer, IAFF 1383 (Log #W6482) David Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5017) Jeff Baugrud, Racine, WI (Log #W2290) Terri Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5745) Bruce Baurichter, Tacoma Professional Fire Fighters Allen R. Airesman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1200) (Log #W5509) Joseph W Bayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Akins, Fulton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2183) (Log #W4802) Richard Alarcan, Orange City Fire Fighters (Log #W1387) James Bayster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4744) Dale Alcock, Surrey, BC (Log #W6293) John L. Beardmore, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. James Alden Strain, P. G. Fire Dept. (Log #W6039) (Log #W6063) William M. Alexander, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dale Beaton, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6403) (Log #W4828) steven G Beaulieu, Ladder One, New Bedford, MA James H Alfred, III, Prince Georges Co. Fire Dept (Log #W1876) (Log #W6193) Frank R Becker, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tyrone Allen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5775) (Log #W4555) Penny Allen, P.G. County MD (Log #W5856) Brian Belitsky, Yorkton, SK (Log #W1500) Sean Alliger, Howard County Fire Rescue (Log #W6163) Paul J. Bell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4892) David Allmon, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W1488) Mark P. Benko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Cary Altadonna, Centralia Fire Fighters (Log #W1630) (Log #W3906) Gregg Altmoore, (Log #W6473) Trevor Benn, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6402) Esteban S Alvarado, East Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W1637) Christopher J. Bennett, Barnard Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Frank R Amadio, Yonkers Fire Fighters (Log #W2301) (Log #W2697) Larry Amidei, Highland Park Fire Depart (Log #W3436) William Benson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Anderson, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5648) (Log #W1208) Wayne G. Bernoska, Seminole County Professional Fire Fighters Scott Anderson, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W2291) (Log #W2141) Adrian Anderson, San Mateo County Fire Fighter (Log #W2318) David J. Beyer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Adrian Anderson, San Mateo County Fire Fighters (Log #W2421) (Log #W5114) David R. Anderson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters B Bhatti, Surrey, BC (Log #W6366) (Log #W4364) Nizder Bhazdal, Surrey, BC (Log #W6375) Carol Anderson, Delta, BC (Log #W6306) Thomas R. Bichler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Anglin, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6097) (Log #W4814) Bruce Ansell, Bellevue, WA (Log #W2334) David Bickford, Bangor Fire Fighters Assoc Local 772 Norm Arnerson, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6406) (Log #W2243) Joseph J. Arnold, Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W2123) William T. Biggs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters

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(Log #W5600) William Burkhard, Pike Township Professional Fire Fighters Robert Bittikifer, Detroit (Log #W6157) (Log #W1821) Grant Blake, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local 2073 Richard Burns, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2083) (Log #W3988) Ken Blanton, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W1431) David Burns, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6410) Richard Blohm, Hoboken Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley Michael Burrier, Salt Lake County Fire Dept (Log #W1136) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3646) Thomas C Busch, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6205) Deborah Blondheim, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6469) Rich Butcher, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1336) Michael Boback, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Donald J. Butler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W3878) #W4435) Ronald J. Bodnar, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Buzon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5051) (Log #W4604) David P Byrnes, Northern Ohio Fire Fighters (Log #W1892) Dave Boechler, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6309) James M. Byrnes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steven W Bogard, Evansville Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5684) (Log #W1502) Michael Calbick, Delta Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1138) Jose Bolanos, City of Vacaville (Log #W2439) Michael V Callavo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lyle P Bolton, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6315) (Log #W4865) Richard J. Bon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John A. Cannon, Professional Fire Fighters of Maine Local 740 (Log #W5678) (Log #W2237) Angelo Bonato, United Auto Distributors (Log #W6422) Russell Canry, Bellevue Fire Fighters (Log #W2346) Michael Bonham, Sacramento CA FF (Log #W1173) Deborah Cantwell, Lawrence Township Fire Dept (Log #W1820) Christopher R. Booz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Caputo, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W64) (Log #W5811) Hector Cardenas, San Antonio, TX (Log #W1110) Kenneth D. Boozer, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local Jeffery Carley, Wyandotte Fire Dept (Log #W1165) 2073 (Log #W2077) Brian Carmichael, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6409) Richard C Bordley, Livermore Pleasanton Fire Dept Bryan Carnahan, Ottumwa, IA (Log #W1115) (Log #W1438) Henry R Carner, IAFF (Log #W6438) George M Borek, Jersey City Fire Dept (Log #W2394) Timothy J Carney, City of South Euclid (Log #W1891) John W. Bossard, Clarkesville Fire Department (Log #W76) James Carney, Plain Township Fire Fighters Local 3850 Brian Botts, St. Charles County Emergency Services (Log #W1913) (Log #W1369) Kevin E Carnrick, Hingham Fire Dept (Log #W1829) Doug Bouvy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4130) Burce Carpenter, St. Catharines, Ontario (Log #W2315) Duane L Bowen, Altamonte Springs Professional Fire Fighters Jennifer Lyn Carr, Delta, BC (Log #W6305) (Log #W1509) Vincent R Carroccia, Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W1120) Paul Boyle, /Rep. Halifax Fire Fighters (Log #W1767) Buddy R Carter, Jr, Charleston Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2372) Charles Brace, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Keith Cash, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5177) (Log #W4292) Danny Castiglia, (Log #W6413) Robert L Bragg, Charlottesville Fire Fighters (Log #W1117) William P Castillo, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6229) Anthony C. Brahler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mauro Cetra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4476) (Log #W4316) Tom Chamberlain, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1633) Nancy Brann, Hines VA Hospital (Log #W1394) Bachcan Sil Chandi, Surrey, BC (Log #W6352) Joey W Brannon, Benton Fire Fighters (Log #W1133) Richard Chaney, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1202) Jean Brassard, Manchester Fire Dept (Log #W1287) Leo Chapman, Regina, Sask (Log #W1919) Craig Braswell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2398) Russell Chard, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters John Brennan, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1862) (Log #W5348) Roland M Chavez, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W1196) Robert F. Brett, British Columbia Professional Fire Fighters Roy S Chelland, Orlando Professional Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1991) (Log #W1303) Dean Brewer, Waukesha Professional Fire Fighters Joseph D Chernaskey, Bethlehem Fire Fighters (Log #W1415) (Log #W1553) Frederick Childs, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 Bob Briare, Marin FF (Log #W2328) (Log #W1364) Walter S. Bricker , Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pasquale Chirumbolo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4076) (Log #W5151) Russell Bridle, Hampton Fire (Log #W1403) Andrew D. Chulack, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Alicia Brodzinska, N. Delta, BC (Log #W6369) (Log #W5366) Eddie J. Brooks, Peoria Fire Department Station #10 Robert Ciesielski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1595) (Log #W5660) Paul Brown, Big Spring Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. C Cill, Surrey, BC (Log #W6348) (Log #W41) Mohan Cill, Surrey, BC (Log #W6350) Glen T. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Karl P Cincotta, Dover Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3735) (Log #W1291) George R. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Cinker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5060) (Log #W5829) Jeffrey Brown, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6461) George Clark, Utica, NY (Log #W1426) Lloyd J. Browning, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Roy P. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4109) (Log #W5432) Charles T. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael J. Brozovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5690) (Log #W3652) Frederick G. Cleis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard L. Brutt , Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5040) (Log #W5576) William Clifford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Buchalski, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6475) (Log #W4619) Thomas A Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Pat Clinch, Helena, MT (Log #W1849) (Log #W3754) Dan E Cochran, Coenr d’Alene Fire Dept (Log #W1344) Joe Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3929) William T Cochran, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W1825) David Bucock, Roanoke City Fire & EMS (Log #W1842) Bill Coennen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3886) Mike Buehler, DFFA (Log #W2088) Bill Cole, Ottawa Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Local 162 Jonathan Bulcoch, Dept of Fisheries & Oceans (Log #W6330) (Log #W2052) Kenneth J. Burg, Wilmington DE (Log #W5874) Charles Coleman, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W1419) Thomas M. Burgess, Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6104) Daniel J Coleman, Albany Permanent Professional Fire Fighters Robert A Burke, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2310) (Log #W3996) Andrew Collins, Colorado Springs Professional Fire Fighters Christina Burkert, Protective Services Empl. Coalition (Log #W1851) (Log #W16) Renee Coltz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5354)

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Eugene Compton, Richmond Fire/EMS Dept. (Log #W5928) Joseph C. Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Condon, Needham Fire Fighters (Log #W1861) (Log #W4058) Jay C Confort, Bellingham, WA (Log #W2443) William E. Dengler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Francis P. Conlon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4148) (Log #W4269) Charles W. Denham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Cheryl Conroy, Surrey, BC (Log #W6298) (Log #W4800) Joe Conway, Fire Fighters Local 311 (Log #W1573) Davinder Deol, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6340) Jeffrey Cook, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W1193) Edward Derby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Patrick Cook, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W1436) (Log #W4394) David Cook, Youngstown Fire Dept (Log #W1623) Joseph M. Deresh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Curtis M Cook, Willoughby Fire Dept (Log #W2430) (Log #W4559) David Cook, Albany Airport Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Pat Devaney, Champaign Fire Fighters (Log #W2356) (Log #W2904) Robert E Dewitt, Hastings Fire Dept (Log #W1844) Ross Cook, Montgomery Co. #1664 (Log #W6109) Sawagh Dhaliwal, Ladner, BC (Log #W6365) Karen Cook, Langley, BC (Log #W6288) Timothy Robert Dhayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lora Cooke, Dale City, VA (Log #W1123) (Log #W3692) J. Martin Corcoran, Auburn Fire Dept. (Log #W6088) Mike DiBattiste, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Cornyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4488) (Log #W4678) Jeff Cotner, Bloom Twp Fire Dept (Log #W1886) Angie Didoshak, Coq, BC (Log #W6361) John Cowan, Detroit Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2087) Paul Diedrich, Southgate Fire Dept (Log #W1638) Jeff Cowley, Sedgwick County Fire Fighters (Log #W1360) Rick Dietrich, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6320) David M Cox, Baltimore, MD (Log #W1835) Jeffrey S. Dillon, Mesquite Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W47) Edward Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3700) Rich Dillon, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W1871) Robert Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5618) Les Dionne, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6380) Lester H. Cragan III, Concord Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Danny Dionne, (Log #W6389) (Log #W70) Michael B DiPascale, Camden City Fire Dept (Log #W2311) Darrel B Crane, San Bernardino County Professional Fire Steven J Dirksen, Professional Fire Fighters of South Dakota (Log Fighters (Log #W1541) #W1533) James Crawford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth J Diulus, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4963) (Log #W5189) Kevin M Crews, Sr., Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W6169) David Divosevic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph Crnkovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4545) (Log #W5448) Dennis Doan, Professional Fire Fighters of Idaho (Log #W1855) Robert D Cromie, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Sheryl Dobbs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5654) (Log #W5034) Paul Dober, Lwr. Sack ville, NS (Log #W3012) Richard D Cronin, Fairfax Co. Professional Fire Fighters & Stephen Doe (Log #Waltham Fire Fighters (Log #W1874) Paramedics (Log #W2377) James W Dolan, Sr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael D Crosby, Baltimore County Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5225) (Log #W1837) Stephen Domanski, Clinton Twp Fire Rescue (Log #W6247) Mike Crouse, IAFF Local F123 (Log #W2003) Ken Donechie, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Palm Dan Crow, Redlands Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1423) Bch Co (Log #W1587) John D. Crowley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert C Dooley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4937) (Log #W4988) Stephen J Cummings, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard C. Doppes, Jr., Cincinnati Fire Division E-19 (Log #W4512) (Log #W5934) Timothy S Curtis, Beloit Fire Fighters (Log #W1549) Don Dorsey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4224) Ronald Cushing, Manchester Fire Department Local 856 James E Doucette, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2405) (Log #W2261) Ken Douglas, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6323) Brian Cuthbert, ICBC (Log #W6326) James W. Dowd, City of Oneida Fire Department (Log #W2793) Scott Cypher, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4334) Charles Downer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian Cyr, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6321) (Log #W5312) Michael D’Orazi, City of Alameda Fire Dept (Log #W2402) Mark Drinkut, Anderson Fire Dept (Log #W1813) Robert J. Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Drury, Merrill Fire Fighters (Log #W1545) (Log #W3856) Raymond H Ducover, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas C Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5020) (Log #W4972) Thomas M Duffola, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John T. Dalton, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6474) (Log #W3952) Jon Daly, Valapraiso Fire Fighters Local 1124 (Log #W28) Patrick Duffy, Oak Forest Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1882) John A Daly, Worcester Fire Dept (Log #W1847) Alan Dugan, Grandview Fire Dept (Log #W1130) Gene A Dangel, San Ramon Valley Fire (Log #W2403) Daniel Dugan, DC Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1673) Scott Daniel, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Tim Duncan, Clinton Twp Fire Dept (Log #W6259) (Log #W1305) Ronald D Dunfield, City of Jackson Fire Fighters (Log #W1163) Charles Daniels, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Terry Dunne, Peoria Fire Department (Log #W1601) (Log #W4215) Patrick Dunne, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6314) Michael J Danyko, Fairview Fire Dept (Log #W6187) Mike Durkin, Youngstown Fire (Log #W1621) Jeffrey Daum, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3837) Steve A Durkit, Coyahoga Falls Fire Dept (Log #W1815) Bob DAusilio, Alhambra Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1399) Barry Dutton, Bismark Fire Department Local 2468 Kevin G Davis, City of Sioux Falls Fire Rescue (Log #W2108) (Log #W2231) John Davis, Surrey, BC (Log #W6307) Thomas J. Dutton, P.G. County MD (Log #W5850) Jennie-Lee Davis, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6360) Tony Dyck, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6292) Neil Dawe, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6390) Suzy Dyck, Surrey, BC (Log #W6297) Linda Dawe, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6391) Thomas A Early, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Phil Dawson, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4773) (Log #W2447) Carl L Eastham, Huntington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log Kevin Dawyskibr, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W1864) #W1840) Dean Decraene, Langley, BC (Log #W6399) Wes Eaton, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6316) John DeJulio, Olathe Fire Dept (Log #W1376) Gary W. Edge, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W99) Gord Deleeuw, White Rock, BC (Log #W6407) Patrick Eggleston, Binghamton, NY (Log #W2426) Brian Delfs, Tucson, AZ (Log #W1839) John Eisel, Violet Twp Fire Dept (Log #W2351) John Delosana, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6280) Francis Elder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5552) Louis P Demici, Danbury Fire Dept (Log #W1614) Daniel A. Elias, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeremiah J Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5440) (Log #W3818) Dave Ellenwood, City of Delta (Log #W6331)

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John M Elliott, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Richard T Furlong, Harvey Fire Dept (Log #W2341) (Log #W3727) Mike Gabriel, Dubuque Fire Fighters (Log #W1370) James M. Ellis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas M. Gabriel, Miami Assocation of Fire Fighters local 587 (Log #W5473) (Log #W1943) Oscar M Elmasian, East ProvidenceFire Dept (Log #W2449) Bradley P Gaiser, Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc of Scarsdale Paul Elmendorf, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W2313) (Log #W2316) Frank Emiliano, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Randy Gallagher, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6388) (Log #W1863) Thomas Ganiere, /Rep. Ottawa Fire Fighters Local 523 Dave Engler, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W1872) (Log #W2109) Thomas English, San Bernandino City Professional Fire Fighters Fred P Garavelli, Albany Fire Dept Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1440) (Log #W1126) Carl Ens, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6324) John A Garcia, Albuquerque Fire Fighters (Log #W1283) Lisa Epps, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4482) Shelly Gardiner, Surrey, BC (Log #W6294) Kevin J Erickson, Henrietta Professional Fire Fighters & Tom Gardner, Sacramento, CA (Log #W1445) DispatchersAssoc. (Log #W1433) John R. Gardner, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Eulberg, North Metro Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4405) (Log #W1424) Roger Garver, Eugene, OR (Log #W1877) Timothy J Evangelista, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark P Garvey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5183) (Log #W3776) Dean Ewert, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6405) Mark Gasiorowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas M. Fahringer, Torrance Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1138 (Log #W5426) (Log #W2213) Phillip Gauer, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W1156) John M. Fanelli, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerald P Gay, Sanford Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1296) (Log #W5384) Melvin S Gay, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5264) Lt. Edmund Farley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Gehri, City of Bedford Hts Fire Dept (Log #W1890) (Log #W4919) Stan George, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1337) Ian Farquar, Jaw Fabricators (Log #W6334) Brian George, London Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1898) Dale Farrell, Saskatoon, SK (Log #W1510) Andy George, Surrey, BC (Log #W6311) Richard Farrell, Victoria Fire Fighters Local 730 (Log #W3519) Jerome Ghafoor, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Peter Fauerbach, Broward County Paramedics & Fire Fighters (Log #W5624) (Log #W1300) Dave Ghag, Ghag & Associates (Log #W6328) Darlene Faulconer, Montgomery County Career Fire Fighters David E. Gibson, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc Local 58 Assn (Log #W1284) (Log #W2071) Robert K Faurot, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2410) John Gilleran, IAFF Local 3177 (Log #W2129) Michael Feeney, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 David W Gillotte, LA County Fire Fighters Local 1014 (Log #W2201) (Log #W1137) Richard A. Fehl, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph J. Giorgianni, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4633) (Log #W4310) Michael S. Ferke, Scranton Fire Fighters (Log #W1645) Michael Glaser, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Glen Ferraro, Guillevin Int. (Log #W6327) (Log #W4101) Kristine Ferreira, Upper Marlboro, MD (Log #W6235) James C Glasson, Altoona Paid Professional Fire Fighters James C. Ferris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1833) (Log #W3660) Alfred Q. Glaze, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James R Fiering, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4732) (Log #W4090) Chuck Glines, Vondenberg Fire, Local F116 (Log #W1973) Larry Fierro, LA City Fire (Log #W1561) Jerome J Gnipp, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Barry Fitz, Fire Fighters Local 413 (Log #W1589) (Log #W3717) Richard Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Henry J Goliat, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5420) (Log #W5288) John T Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Gollner, Greenfield, Wi (Log #W1546) (Log #W4841) John A. Gombita, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Fitzsimmons, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5491) (Log #W1507) Antonio Gomes, Easton Fire Dept (Log #W1289) Dean Fletcher, IAFF Local 1285 (Log #W1383) John R. Gonyea, Jr., (Log #W6459) Chris M. Flora, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Freddie Gonzales, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5306) (Log #W5074) Bill Floyd, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5817) Doug A. Goodman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard F Foerch, Woodbridge Fire Dept (Log #W1441) (Log #W5135) Patrick T Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters William Michael Gorham, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4071) (Log #W5246) Timothy Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Gorizre, Associated Fire Fighters Matteson (Log #W5294) (Log #W2382) John T. Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5408) Peter Gorman, Uniformed Fire Officers Assn (Log #W2389) Pasquale Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John P. Gourley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4322) (Log #W4298) Michael G. Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John J Grant, Milton Fire Dept (Log #W1097) (Log #W4370) Richard Greene, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James E. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3795) (Log #W5403) David Greenwood, Birmingham Fire Dept (Log #W2342) Thomas F. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David G Gregorich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5457) (Log #W4823) Joe Formhals, Joliet Fire Dept (Log #W2352) Gregory Grenfell, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue/Rep. Tualatin Don Forrest, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W1563) Valley Professional Firefighters Union (Log #W3598) James A Fossos, Seattle Fire Dept (Log #W2363) Vincent Griffin, Oaklawn, IL (Log #W1901) Billy A Foster, Memphis Fire Dept (Log #W1857) Ryan M. Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerald P Fox, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4587) (Log #W3844) Sean Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5739) Paul Fredrich, Racing, WI (Log #W1420) Robert W Griffiths, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Frieders, Aurora Fire Fighters (Log #W1523) (Log #W4605) Carl Fritz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4532) Kathleen D Grote, Tracy’s Landing, MD (Log #W1345) John R Frost, Waterloo Fire Rescue (Log #W1881) Sandra Grubb, PGFD (Log #W6175) Guy Fujio, Honolulu Fire Dept (Log #W2420) Michael Gruber, Warren Fire Dept Eng 1 (Log #W6465) Mark Fuller, North Kansas Fire Fighters (Log #W1127) Gerald E. Grunert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters

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(Log #W4613) Ron Hittle, Stockton Fire Department (Log #W2189) Donald Guckert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Hoffmann, Oakland Fire Dept (Log #W2384) (Log #W5835) John J. Hogan, Dewitt Fire District (Log #W2794) Harold Guiles, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6093) Paul Hogan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5672) Troy Haase, Fondulac Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1539) David Hogelin, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W1853) Ryan T. Haid, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5564) Mark Hogrebe, Allen Park Fire Dept (Log #W1885) Walter R. Haig, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Toussaint M Holland, Fairfax County (Log #W6151) (Log #W4226) William G Hollander, Kansas City KS Fire Dept (Log #W1559) Rieck Hairston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Karen Holman, Surrey, BC (Log #W6285) (Log #W3825) Jim Holmes, London Professional Fire Fighters Assn B R Hall, Nashville Fire Fighters (Log #W1121) (Log #W2448) Mark S Hall, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W1859) Paul R Holmquist, Yarmouth Permanent Fire Fighters Robert Hall, Vancouver Fire & Rescue local 18 (Log #W2098) (Log #W1113) Dale A. Hall, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5503) Gary Homberg, Kankakee Fire Fighters Local 653 (Log #W2788) Scott Halleck, Warren Fire Dept Truck 1 (Log #W6464) Rick Honsberger, Thorold Professional Fire Fighters John Halsey, CSPFFA (Log #W1119) (Log #W1810) Robert M Halston, Egelston Professional Fire Fighters Union G Hoonjan, Newert, (Log #W6371) 3901 (Log #W1955) Eric V Hopp, Elgin, IL (Log #W1620) Sandra Hambly, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6359) Leo Horton, S Lake Tahoe, CA (Log #W1112) Ian Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Timothy R. Hottenfeller, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1511) (Log #W5485) Keith Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Dennis Howard, City of Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W156) (Log #W2159) William A Howe, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W2337) Thomas Hanify, Indianapolis Fire Fighter Union (Log #W1816) Murray Howes, Langley Teachers Assn (Log #W6325) Lance Hanson, Eau Claire Fire Fighters (Log #W1544) Paul Hoy, Torrance Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1536) Shawn Hardychuk, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6383) Gerry Huger, /Rep. Sask. Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Dave Harkinson, Harky Construction Ltd. (Log #W6333) (Log #W1761) Eugene A. Harnish, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bobby G. Humphryes, Birmingham Fire Fighters Assoc. Local (Log #W3946) 117 (Log #W1967) Glenn Hart, Asheville Fire Dept (Log #W1613) John D. Hunt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4987) Daryl Hart, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6317) Terry Hunt, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6428) Larry J Hartley, Marion City Fire Dept (Log #W1161) Guy D. Hunter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Hassinger, Bucyrus Fire Fighters (Log #W1635) (Log #W5397) Ed Hatala, St. Louis Co Fire Fighters (Log #W1474) Brad Hunter, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6303) Michael P Hawkins, Shaker Hts Fire Dept (Log #W1157) Tom Huston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4376) Charles C Hawkins, Jr, Seattle Fire Fighters Union (Log #W2111) Brad Hutchings, North Hampton Fire & Rescue (Log #W1217) Brian W. Hawkins, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6091) Joseph C. Imburgia, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Baljit Hayer, Vancouver, BC (Log #W6367) (Log #W5787) Alan Hefter, West Bend Fire Fighters (Log #W1524) Stanley W Ingle, Knoxville Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1219) Steve Heim, Lincoln Park Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1622) Dennis E. Isaac, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Rod Heivilin, Shoreline Fire Fighters (Log #W1856) (Log #W2040) David L. Helbling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Jack, Everett Fire Department (Log #W1465) (Log #W4346) Shawn R Jackson, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1299) Fred Helfmann, Warren Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1883) Matt Jackson, JCFFA Local 3309 (Log #W1362) Paul W Helms, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian K. Jackson, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4955) (Log #W3767) Michael Hemphill, Bogalusa Fire Dept (Log #W1579) Carl Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4048) Rick Henderson, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6318) Kevin Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Ian R Henis, Vancouver Fire & Rescue Service (Log #W1515) (Log #W4241) Joe Henning, Fire Fighters Local 63 (Log #W1617) Philip Jandrokovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Sheldon J. Henry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4154) (Log #W5847) Randy T Jankowski, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Neil L Hensler, Williamsport Fire Fighters (Log #W1624) (Log #W3799) Robert Hensley, Warren, Mi (Log #W6480) Joseph J Janosko, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Allen Henson, Littleton Fire Fighters Local 2086 (Log #W2219) (Log #W4875) Thomas Herak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Dave Jarvis, Reno Airport Fire Dept (Log #W2293) (Log #W4252) Roger C Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters James A. Herbst, Great Lakes Fire Department Local F37 (Log #W4160) (Log #W1925) Vince Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald Heritage, Joplin, MO (Log #W2336) (Log #W5087) Aaron Herschman, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Co. 49 Ralph Jedd, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4082) (Log #W6133) Richard Jock, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4533) Mark Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4417) James Johnson, IAFF Local F-88 (Log #W180) Al Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5300) Randy Johnson, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W1293) Gary W. Hickey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeff Johnson, Oshkosh Fire Dept (Log #W1353) (Log #W5702) Robert W. Johnson, Harwich Fire Department Local 2124 Fred Higgins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4465) (Log #W2028) David L. Higgs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay Johnson, San Mateo County FF (Log #W2425) (Log #W4770) Shana Johnson, Rescus 14 Cincinnati Fire Division Damon T. HIll, Sr., PGH Professional Fire Fighters/Rep. (Log #W5940) Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6487) Patti Johnson, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6358) Barry Hilling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4891) J E Jones, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1514) Nick Hillner, Whichita Falls, TX (Log #W1381) Fletcher Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Stan Hills, Metro Dade Fire Fighters (Log #W1301) (Log #W4544) Larry Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3997) David W. Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4901) (Log #W5841) Rick Hinchcliffe, Greeley-Union Coloney Fire Rescue Auth Richard Randall Jordan, Atlantic City Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1487) (Log #W1429) Bill Hindmarsh, Arlington Professional Fire Fighters Assn Carl A Jordan, Canton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1636) (Log #W2364) Timothy J. Joyce, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerald Hirschfeld, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5533) (Log #W3713) William F. Juergen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian K Hishinuma, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W1566) (Log #W5515)

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Gary Jurceka, North Riverside Fire Fighters (Log #W2365) Greg Laing, Mississauga Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1102) Randall Jute, Lake Worth, FL (Log #W2299) Stan Lajoie, Victoria, BC (Log #W2094) Gregg P Kadow, Manitowoc Professional Fire Fighters Russell Lalin, Burnsville Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1530) (Log #W1555) Claire M Lambert, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6392) Fred P Kaeberlein, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W1384) Bruce Lane, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6095) Malkiat Kaila, Surrey, BC (Log #W6368) David Lang, Professional Fire Fighters of Hampton Elvin K Kamoku, County of Maui - Fire Control (Log #W2412) (Log #W1388) Tarlo Chan Kandola, Surrey, BC (Log #W6364) Leonard K. Lang, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jatinder Kandola, Surrey, BC (Log #W6370) (Log #W5793) Emily Kane, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2306) Brian F Lange, Dekalb Fire Fighters (Log #W1584) Tom Karnas, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn George Lange, City of Strongsville (Log #W2433) (Log #W1513) Sabrina Langston, Surrey, BC (Log #W6286) John Kastran, Farmington Hills Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1504) Thomas W Larbig, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters William G Kauahikaua, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1477) (Log #W4233) Richard Kazzi, Fairfield Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2298) George LaRue, Houston, TX (Log #W2086) Greg Keefe, Newark Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1823) John Latta, OCPFA Local 3631 (Log #W1389) Dan Kehler, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6411) William J. Lawrence, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Glenn Keiffer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4453) (Log #W3766) Todd Leake, Ventura County Professional FireFighter Assn Francis D Kelly, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W1483) (Log #W1435) Michael A Kelly, Livonia Fire Fighters (Log #W1521) David Leary, Summit Logistics Inc. (Log #W6313) Michael T. Kelly, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fred LeBlanc, Kingston Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4518) (Log #W1159) Ian M Kemp, Fort Lauderdale Fire Fighters (Log #W1512) James P Lee, Whitpain Fire Dept (Log #W1122) Jeff Kemp, Richmond Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2444) Robert H Lee, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2423) Francis Kennedy, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1878) Daniel Leffler, University Hts Fire Dept (Log #W2431) Wilbur L. Kephurt III, Local 822 (Log #W3442) Al Leier, Prince George Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1508) Robert J. Kerestes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Craig Leighton, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6319) (Log #W5099) Jordan M Lemieux, Holyoke Fire Dept (Log #W1852) Timothy Kernan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles J Lenz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5142) (Log #W4596) Joe Kerr, Orange County Fire Authority (Log #W1412) Paul Lesnau, Warren Fire Dept Eng 1 (Log #W6467) Maureen Kerrigan, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters W James Leve, Portage Fire Fighters (Log #W1824) (Log #W4024) Mark T. Lewandowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert E Kiefer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4124) (Log #W4690) David J. Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey M Kihune, Maui Fire Dept (Log #W2418) (Log #W3757) Patrick Kilbane, Janesville Fire Fighters (Log #W1199) Charles L Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Joseph J. Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4166) (Log #W4400) Varnell Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5666) David Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5009) William R Ley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4566) Elizabeth A King, Alexandria, VA (Log #W2112) Mark Liberator, Canton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1627) Michael T. King, Fairfax County (Log #W6145) Ken Lieuwen, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6387) Stephen J Kinneavy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William T Liles, Henrico Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4696) (Log #W1358) James M. Kirby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bruce Linner, BC-5 Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5594) (Log #W4665) John Kirkpatrick, Saratoga Springs Professional Fire Fighters Tim Littlefield, Algonquin Lake In The Hill Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1574) (Log #W1680) Stephen C. Klein, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bob Livingston, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W4340) (Log #W1221) Robert Knerr, Navsta Ingleside Fire Dept (Log #W2349) Joe Locnikar, Fargo Fire (Log #W1450) Kevin Knight, Aurora Fire Dept (Log #W1397) Matt Loewen, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1556) Charles Koelker, Cumberland, MD (Log #W1111) Eric Lofgren, Gresham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Paul C. Konarowski, Oshawa FireFighters Assocation (Log #W1220) (Log #W53) Royce Loh, Maple Ridge, BC (Log #W6357) Gerald Kosaki, Hawaii Fire Dept (Log #W2422) Paul Lombardo, Lahabra Fire Fighters (Log #W1413) Daniel J. Kosek, Warren Fire Dept Eng 1 (Log #W6466) Steve Long, KCK Fire Dept (Log #W1363) John F. Kramer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Larry G Long, Stockton Fire Dept (Log #W1422) (Log #W5391) Kevin R. Long, Mashpee Fire Fighters Local 2519 (Log #W2249) John J Kreger, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5276) Robert Losket, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4999) Norman Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert F Lostetter, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3806) (Log #W5159) Alan Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5714) Tom Lovell, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W1379) Dennis Kruger, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W1481) Craig W Lowe, City of Santa Rosa Fire Dept (Log #W2397) Brian J. Krull, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5606) Gregory A Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Nick Kumar, Maple Ridge, BC (Log #W6356) (Log #W4586) James Kummer, Engine 1 (Log #W2304) Richard E Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay M. Kunkel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5558) (Log #W5124) Michael Kurtsinger, Louisville Professional Fire Fighters Stephen Ludmann, Blue Ash Fire Fighters (Log #W1485) (Log #W1894) Mark D. Lundy, City of Worthington Division of Fire & EMS (Log Elizabeth C Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters #W2171) (Log #W3741) Robert G Luther, Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W1537) David H Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4575) James L Luttrell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W1437) John Kwasny, Highland Park Fire Fighters Local 822 Dennis Lyman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3433) (Log #W4625) John Kwasny, Buffalo Grove, IL (Log #W3434) Paul Lyons, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4204) Thomas R La montagne, Portsmouth Fire Dept (Log #W1288) Joseph F. Machovec, Baltimore City Fire Officers Assoc John P Labishak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1585) (Log #W3907) Richard Macklin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Daivd Lachenaue, Waterton Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2388) (Log #W5414) Ed Lacombe, New Bedford MA (Log #W5862) Jim Macleod, Vancouver Fire & Rescue (Log #W1493) Bill Lai, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6382)

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Robert G. MacMaster, Augusta Uniformed Fire Fighters Glen McGee, Surrey Fire Service (Log #W6363) Association (Log #W2022) R L McGhee, IAFF Local 176 (Log #W1297) Ryan MacNeal, City of Surrey FD (Log #W6299) Richard L. McGrail, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph Magliocca, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5330) (Log #W5270) David McIntyre, Clinton Township Fire Department Local 1381 Michael F Magnan, Woonsocket Fire Dept (Log #W1286) (Log #W2273) Elmer Mahaffy, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W6057) J L McIntyre, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6329) Roger J Maher, III, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Christian McKay, IAFF Local 4041 (Log #W2698) (Log #W4791) Don McKay, (Log #W6418) Chris Mahon, Ventura Cty Fire Dept (Log #W1400) Dennis McKnight, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Chad Major, Baton Rouge Assn of Fire Fighters (Log #W1099) (Log #W4726) Thomas Makar, Wilkes-Barre Fire Fighters (Log #W1116) Todd McLarren, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6338) Brian Makey, IAFF Local 2494 (Log #W1306) J. David McLean, Dover Fire Officers (Log #W1342) Stephen A. Mandell Jr., Conring City Fire Department Edgar W McLean, Burlington Fire Dept (Log #W2295) (Log #W2795) Michael McMahon, Hampton, NH (Log #W2355) David Manfredo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike McManus, Binghamton, NY (Log #W1178) (Log #W4286) Mike McNamara, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6339) Kelly Mannion, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Darren M McNeil, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3920) (Log #W5252) Brian K Manship, Selma, IN (Log #W1641) Pat McOsker, UFLA C (Log #W1567) Kevin Manson, Jr., West Hartford Fire Dept. (Log #W5916) Pat McOsker, UFLA C (Log #W2379) Devon Marcuk, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6290) Larry J. McPhail, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association Brian Markewinski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5726) (Log #W4423) Larry J. McPhail, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association Andrew Markey, Hoboken Uniformed Fire Officers (Log #W5727) (Log #W2312) William J McQuillen, Portsmouth Fire Fighters Assn Greg B Markley, Kent Fire Fighters (Log #W1295) (Log #W1402) John A Marks, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 James W Meinzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1365) (Log #W4930) Michael J. Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Alan Menillo, Fainfield Fire Fighters (Log #W2294) (Log #W3666) Hipolito S Menulez, Holloman AFB , NM (Log #W2089) William Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Meringer, Oshawa Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1499) (Log #W3872) Joe Merritt, Fairfax Fire Rescue FS 18 (Log #W6075) Jeff J Marlin, Keokuk, IA (Log #W1307) Barry Mesley, Miami Township Fire & EMS (Log #W1639) Art Marshall, Santa Clara County Fire Fighters (Log #W2376) Donald Messier, Somersworth, NH (Log #W1093) Wiliam Martin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Don Mette, Sacramento Metro Fire Dist (Log #W2406) (Log #W4883) Gary H Metz, Littleton Fire Dept (Log #W1096) Elmer Martinez, Pocatello Fire Fighters (Log #W1377) Rick Michael, West Chicago, IL (Log #W1409) Todd D Martinez, Professional Fire Fighters of High Point Robert W. Michel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1576) (Log #W5612) Patrick Martyn, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn Allen Middlelton, Charlotte Fire Dept (Log #W1619) (Log #W2428) Vincent M Milano, Presidio Fire Dept (Log #W1212) Art Martynuska, Johnstown Fire Fighters (Log #W2407) Steve Miller, Chula Vista Fire Fighters (Log #W1125) Keith O Mary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5282) James H Miller, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W1340) Thomas M Marzheuser, Cincinnati Fire Dept (Log #W2435) Jeffrey A Miller, Town of Beloit Fire Dept (Log #W1550) Mike Massone, San Diego Federal Fire Fighters (Log #W81) Chris Miller, Dehli Township Fire Dept (Log #W1640) Richard V. Mastandrea, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael R. Milligan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4781) (Log #W5324) Mark A. Mastison, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Reuben M. Millsaps, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W93) (Log #W1907) Michael E Minton, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters Anthony Mastro, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6472) (Log #W2357) Jerry J. Matouka, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6471) Eugene S Mireles, San Antonio, TX (Log #W1104) Jim Matthews, Engine #2 West Hartford CT (Log #W5910) William Mirt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5733) S Matthews, Surrey, BC (Log #W6295) John Misencik, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kathy Matthews, Surrey, BC (Log #W6296) (Log #W4738) Joe Matuszewski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Erwin Miske, City of Rocky River (Log #W1888) (Log #W4949) Tim Mitchell, Memphis Fire Dept (Log #W1100) Frederick H. Mays, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5781) (Log #W4197) William F Mazon, III, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Christopher Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3867) (Log #W5479) Ed Mazurowski, Darien-Woodridge Fire District (Log #W1162) Al Mitchell, Surrey Fire Service (Log #W6419) Lawrence Mazza, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Leroy Mobley, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5336) (Log #W5630) Daniel R McCarthy, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W1569) Thomas J. Moffitt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert B McCarthy, Professional Fire Fighters of MA (Log #W4684) (Log #W1843) Paul Mogavero, Toronto Fire Service (Log #W1505) Terrence L McCarthy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Molkenbuhr, Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Dept (Log #W4978) (Log #W1158) Anthony McClinton, City of Gary Fire Dept (Log #W1166) Jay Montenbrey, IAFF Local 2915 (Log #W2016) Mark McCormick, Santa Rosa Fire Fighters (Log #W2309) Joe Montoya, Los Angeles County Fire Fighters (Log #W1439) Margene McCoy, Shreveport Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1098) Gregory M Mooney, Massport Fire Fighters (Log #W1118) Roy McDonald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rick Moore, Fire Fighters Association Local 36/Rep. District of (Log #W3674) Columbia Fire Fighters (Log #W1458) Timothy T McDonnell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Professional Brian Moore, Vacaville Fire Fighters (Log #W1575) Fire Fighters (Log #W1817) Melvin Moore, Wayne Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2438) John McDonough, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Travis O. Moore, San Antonio Fire Dept. (Log #W5898) (Log #W5231) James Morgan, Atlantic City Professional Fire Fighters Grant McElhinney, Surrey Fire Rescue (Log #W6300) (Log #W1428) David M. McEndoo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin R Morgan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4907) (Log #W5240) John A McGee, Manchester PFF (Log #W1195) Tom Morgan, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6415) Kelly McGee, Surrey, BC (Log #W6362) Timothy Morgan, Warren Fire Dept T-1 (Log #W6463)

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Chris Morlan, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6211) Leonard Orlando, Green Bay Fire Department Local 141 Michael R. Morris, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1659) (Log #W2396) Jeff Morris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5213) James Orton, Vaughan Fire Fighters Local 1595 (Log #W2500) Shelley Morris, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6308) Richard Osborn, Glenside Fire Protection Dist (Log #W2095) Jeffrey A Morrow, Taylor Professional Fire Fighters Charles A. Ossler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1520) (Log #W3724) Donald R. Moses, McDonough, GA (Log #W2147) Mark Ouellette, Professional Fire Fighters of New Hamphsire Leo Mostyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4280) (Log #W2331) A Michael Mullane, Boston Fire Fighters (Log #W1875) Donald J. Palmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael J. Mullen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4358) (Log #W4304) Richard T Paltaut, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W2314) Adrian Munday, Fairfax, VA (Log #W1860) David J Panchura, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Mark Munger, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W1870) (Log #W3965) Cheryl Murphy, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6423) James W Parker, Raleigh Professional Fire Fighters Assn Marianna Murphy, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6424) (Log #W1210) Rob Murphy, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6425) Greg Parker, San Bernandino City Fire Fighters (Log #W2358) John Murphy, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6426) Bill Parlow, Brockton Fire Fighters (Log #W1880) Rory Murphy, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6429) Eucrette A Passaly, Charlotte Fire Dept (Log #W1107) Victor D Muto, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dale E Paterson, (Log #W6395) (Log #W5115) Hugo Patino, Modesto City Fire Fighters (Log #W2391) Phillip Myers, Park Forest Fire Fighers Assoc (Log #W2177) Bill Paton, Surrey, BC (Log #W6397) Lawrence A Naddy, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Rick Patterson, Prince George’s County (Log #W6121) Palm Bch Co (Log #W1618) Richard H Pattison, Houston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Tom Neal, St. Cloud Fire Dept (Log #W1114) (Log #W1292) Sean P. Neary, Detoroit Fire Department (Log #W35) Rickie Paul, Norwood Fire Dept (Log #W2353) James Nedwidek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lou Paulson, United PFF of Contra Costa County (Log #W2408) (Log #W3959) Christopher M Pedrotty, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log Fernando Negrete, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 #W5195) (Log #W2195) Jeffry M. Pegg, Local 344 (Log #W6139) Michael G. Neibauer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Spiro Pegios, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6337) (Log #W4352) Michael Peltz, Springfield Missouri Fire FIghters (Log #W2305) Douglas H Neil, Great Falls Fire/Rescue (Log #W1850) Greg Perdue, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5068) Dan A Neill, City of Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W1372) James M Perkins, City of Bradford (Log #W1366) Edward A Nemeth, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W1895) Lawrence Perkins, Seabrook Professional Fire Fighters Tony Neratini, Vancouver Fire Rescue Services (Log #W2446) (Log #W1382) Jeff Nester, Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Assn Rard Perkins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4257) (Log #W2440) James Perrott, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5219) Gary Newbigging, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6384) Frank R. Perry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald E. Newham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5372) (Log #W5150) Scott Perry, Surrey, BC (Log #W6322) Les Newman, Thunder Bay Professional Fire Fighters Assn Ward A Pervan, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6408) (Log #W2338) Robert F Pesa, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4813) Mike Nichols, Waco Professional Fire fighters (Log #W2437) William Peterson, Coon Rapids Fire Dept (Log #W2395) Chris J Nickoloff, South Metro Professional Fire Fighters Anthony Petrone, New Rochelle Fire Department (Log #W3447) (Log #W1629) Thomas Petronio, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J Nicotra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4925) (Log #W4500) Steve Petrosoniak, Mississauga Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1103) Mark Nielsen, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6404) Donald W Petschke, Buffalo Fire Dept (Log #W1124) Thomas J. Niemiec, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Billy C. Petty, Mesquite FireFighters Assoc (Log #W10) (Log #W4719) Mike Pfeiffer, Whitby Professional Fire Fighters Assocation John R Niemiec, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W162) (Log #W6265) Dennis Phillips, Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W1371) Scott Nishisaka, Burbank Fire Fighters (Log #W2103) Ron Phillips, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1487 Michael H. Nolf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2165) (Log #W4441) Andrew R Pickens, Charlotte Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1204) Stephen E Norris, LA City Fire (Log #W1562) Frank Pierce, Shelby Twp Fire Dept (Log #W1893) Ronald F. Novak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David A. Pierson, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6460) (Log #W3916) Gregory Pietras, Chicopee Fire Fighters (Log #W1868) Phillip L. Novak, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6470) Jeff Pike, Austin Fire Dept (Log #W1167) Hector Nunez, Tyler Fire Department/Rep. Tyler Professional Larry Pikora, Hanover Park Professional Fire Fighters Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W105) (Log #W2104) Richard O’Brien, Professional Fire Fighters & Paramedics of NC John A. Piotrowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2099) (Log #W3980) Kevin O’Connor, Maryland State and DC Professional Fire Joseph Piro, Easton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2302) Fighters Assn (Log #W1836) Randy Piticco, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6289) Patrick R O’Lear, Sterling Hgts Fire Dept (Log #W1625) Robert D Pitippen, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6341) David O’Leary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Connie Plank, LSG Sky Cheef (Log #W6377) (Log #W5751) Jason Plogmann, Cincinnati Fire Division - D3 (Log #W5946) Kevin M O’Meara, Calif Dept of Forestry & Fire Protection Jerry Pobicki, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3787) (Log #W1446) Rob Poloni, Longshoreman (Log #W6335) Mark W Oakes, Orlando Professional Fire Fighters H. John Powell, Haverhill Fire Fighters (Log #W1386) (Log #W1304) Steve Powell, (Log #W6396) Perry Oldenburg, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W1854) James L Powers, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Walter T. Oldham, Memphis Fire Department local 1784 (Log #W3830) (Log #W1997) Monte W. Prasin, Decatur, IL (Log #W87) Charles Oleary, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Douglas J. Praskovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4179) (Log #W5582) Donald R Olguin, Boulder Fire Fighters (Log #W2359) Kenneth Pravetz, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W1352) David Olsen, Surrey Fire Department (Log #W3514) Daniel H Preston, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn Rick Olsen, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6401) (Log #W1442) Gordon Olson, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1294) Damon Price, Fairfax Co. Fire & Rescue (Log #W5868) Michael Onthank, Traverse City Fire Dept (Log #W1889) Christopher D. Prickett, Dekalb Professional Fire Fighters local 1492 (Log #W1937)

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Michael Priester, Orange County Fire/Rescue (Log #W1094) Rolan C Romero, West Metro Fire Protection District Tommy K. Propst, Orange County Fire & Rescue, Local 2057 (Log #W2360) (Log #W2135) Darryl Ross, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5763) Michael Pudup, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Daniel M Ross, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6241) (Log #W4573) Neil Rothhaupt, IAFF Local F-170 (Log #W1979) Luis Puentes, East Moline, IL (Log #W2092) Brayton Round, North Smithfield Professional Fire Fighters Kevin Quinn, Elk Grove Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2105) (Log #W1164) Denton Rourke, Prince Georges County MD Fire/EMS William E Quinn, Hamilton Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5892) (Log #W1516) Paul Routon, Louisville Fire Fighters (Log #W1631) Michael Quinn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Don Roy, Brampton Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4708) (Log #W1211) David A Rabb, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Wayne E. Royster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4185) (Log #W5000) Frank P Raffa, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1867) Kenneth Ruckel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ray Rahne, Colorado Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1879) (Log #W4136) Gary Rainey, Miami Dade Fire Rescue (Log #W2375) Barry Rudy, IAFF F-221 (Log #W147) Robert A. Rajnovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Isabel Ruediger, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6394) (Log #W5342) Roger Rupp, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W1174) David A. Raleigh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward E Ryan, III, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1873) (Log #W4702) Ron Saathoff, San Diego Fire Fighters (Log #W1338) Rob Rankin, Local 1053 (Log #W2325) Frank Saia, Camden Fire Dept (Log #W2320) Norman D. Rathke, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edwin R Salinetro, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5540) (Log #W4913) Jeffrey P Rawson, Washington, MA (Log #W1216) Victor M Salis, Hawaii County Fire Dept (Log #W2409) Shannon Raybon, Orlando Professional Fire Fighters Russell D. Salyers, RDS Training & Consulting (Log #W6479) (Log #W1302) Sadhu S Samra, Surrey, BC (Log #W6278) Mark D. Rectenwald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth A Samuels, Kansas City Fire Dept (Log #W1285) (Log #W4964) Gary W. Samuels, Henrico Professional Fire Fighters Assn Robert Redente, City of East Haven Local 1205 (Log #W2009) (Log #W1357) Michael L Reed, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W1155) Naomi A Sanchez, Sky Chefs Canada Ltd (Log #W6378) Brian J Reed, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W1858) Scott W. Sanders, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Reed, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4835) (Log #W1866) Martin W. Sanders, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jack Reed, Ottumus, IA (Log #W1869) (Log #W5497) Michael Reeves, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Guybax Sandhu, Richmond, BC (Log #W6374) (Log #W1822) Chanan Singh Sanghera, Surrey, BC (Log #W6354) Jim Reidy, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters Assn Thomas W Santaniello, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W1846) (Log #W1169) John Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Thomas A. Reinheimer, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4006) (Log #W5029) Thomas Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Larry A Rekasie, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4015) (Log #W4051) Donald Santoriello, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Remillard, Norristown, PA (Log #W1390) (Log #W4660) Steven Renellowe, Eastchester Professional Fire Fighter Eric Sargent, CDF Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1425) (Log #W1427) Richard Sargent, Centerville-Osterville Fire Fighters Local 2346 Steven W Repp, IAFF Local 1773 (Log #W1343) (Log #W2255) Mark Rhame, Orange Conty Fire Rescue (Log #W1804) Robert Saros, Mishawaka Fire (Log #W2442) Mike Rhyner, Tucson Fire Fighter (Log #W1131) Mike Sass, Kingston Fire Dept (Log #W2361) Brian K Rice, Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District Robert W Saunders, Orange County Fire Rescue (Log #W174) (Log #W1452) Anthony C Savino, Blue Island Professional Fire Fighters Patricia Richard, Vancouver, BC (Log #W6291) (Log #W168) Michael Richards, Poquonnock Bridge Professional Fire Fighters John R Sbonik (Log #West Allis Fire Fighters (Log #W1543) Assn (Log #W2434) Robert H Scates, Chicago Fire Fighers Union (Log #W1348) Timothy Richardson, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters Kirk A. Schalau, Meridian Professional FF Assn (Log #W1448) (Log #W1410) Reid Scharding, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Cecil D Ridge, Modesto Fire Fighters (Log #W1171) (Log #W5080) John J. Riley, Lake Shore Professional Fire Fighter Assoc Harry Scherer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4388) (Log #W1430) Paul Schermann, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W1828) Jon Riley, Vallejo Fire Dept (Log #W2399) Darren Schimke, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W1378) Clifton Rineheart, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6223) Don Schleich, Washington Township Fire Department Local 3036 Kevin Ristau, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6312) (Log #W2046) Edward Riveros, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W1564) Karl Schmaelzle, Feeding Hills, MA (Log #W1830) Keith Roach, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4750) William A Schmidt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scotty Roberts, Henrico Co Fire (Log #W1356) (Log #W5165) Alan Roberts, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6310) Dale J. Schneider, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert L Robertson, DeKalb County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4245) (Log #W2153) Donald H. Schroeder, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters James Robinson, Clayton County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2117) (Log #W123) Philippe A Schruve, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6344) John T Robinson, Newport Professional Fire Fighters Union Michael J Schwarz, Lafayette Fire Dept (Log #W1168) (Log #W1160) Thomas W Schweitzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lester A Robinson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5046) (Log #W4191) Rick Scofield, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W1341) Thomas J. Robinson, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Harold D Scoggines, Glendale Fire Fighters (Log #W1203) (Log #W6127) Sam Scoles, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W1432) Steve Robinson, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6412) Charles Scott, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W1095) Mary Grace Robles, Surrey, BC (Log #W6379) Dan Selewski, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6476) Brian Roeder, New Westminster Fire & Rescue (Log #W2091) Mark S Selke, IAFF Local F-151 (Log #W1985) Brian Roeder, New Westminster Fire & Rescue (Log #W2289) David Serafin, Truck Co 1/Warren Fire Dept. (Log #W6462) Scott A Rogers, West Metro Fire Fighters (Log #W1375) Robert M. Seybold, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John H Rogers, Green Bay Fire Fighters (Log #W1547) (Log #W4763) Jack A Rogers, Denver Fire Dept (Log #W1591) Brad Sharp, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6385)

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John L. Sharpe, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George Suther, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3897) (Log #W1206) Joseph Sharrow, Jr., Warren Fire Dept. (Log #W6483) Peter C Svoboda, Chesterfield Professional Fire Fighters Craig J Shaw, City of Lawrence Fire Dept (Log #W1170) (Log #W1374) Patrick E. Shaw, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Sweetland, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5588) (Log #W6271) Dennis Shearn, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters James K Swicegood, Lexington Fire Fighters (Log #W1218) (Log #W1404) Donald Swickline, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Earl Shepherd, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4094) (Log #W4470) Clarence L. Swindle, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brad Shirley, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6414) (Log #W5636) Paul Shively, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4142) Douglas M Switzer, Rock Island Arsenal Professional FF Assn Roger J Short, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5234) (Log #W1109) Robert D Shuster, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Stanley Szymanski, Wilmington DE (Log #W5880) (Log #W3978) James T. Talak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fernando M Simoes, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6393) (Log #W4429) William Sinagra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John A.E. Tanaka, Evertee Fire Department (Log #W1492) (Log #W5318) James C. Tarbert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frank P. Sinatra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5757) (Log #W5378) James R. Taylor, City of Upper Arlington (Log #W32) Joe Singer, Waco, TX (Log #W1896) John F. Tekippe, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1654) Scott Skinner, Watervliet UFFA Local 590 (Log #W3515) S Thandi, Surrey, BC (Log #W6349) Craig S Slatcher, City of Wilmington, Ladder #1 (Log #W6181) Satnam K Thind, Surrey, BC (Log #W6277) Art Smith, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W1391) Raehhpal Singh Thind, Surrey, BC (Log #W6345) David B. Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Meetpal Singh Thind, Surrey, BC (Log #W6346) (Log #W4459) Mark E Thomas, Orland Professional Fire Fighters Michael G Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1406) (Log #W5207) Trevor Thomas, Sheraton Hotel (Log #W6336) George S Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Erin Thomas, Surrey, BC (Log #W6343) (Log #W5258) Gerard Thompson, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc John Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5708) (Log #W111) Greg L. Smith, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6092) David J Thompson, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters Chuck Smith, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6279) Assn (Log #W1393) P G Smith, Richmond, BC (Log #W6376) Kendall Thompson, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Dept FS24-C Rick Snodgrass, Lakewood Fire Dept (Log #W1177) (Log #W5886) Gerald S. Snyder, Fort Drum Fire Department Local F 105 Dean Thornberry, Brush Prairie, WA (Log #W2317) (Log #W1961) Michael E Thorp, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W1181) John A. Snyder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters G Tiwana, Surrey, BC (Log #W6353) (Log #W3969) James R Tobin, Newport Fire Dept (Log #W1472) Michael Solida, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Danny L Todd, Memphis Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2303) (Log #W5805) Amerject K Todl, Sky Chef (Log #W6372) Troy D Sonichsen, Sioux City Fire Dept (Log #W1132) Gordon K K Tom, Honlulu Fire Dept (Ret) (Log #W2416) Thomas B. Sowinski, City of Wilmington, DE (Log #W6069) George J. Tomasak, Luzerne County Professional Fire Fighters Michael Spath, Charlotte Fire Fighters (Log #W1106) (Log #W1651) Dave Spooner, Regina Professional Fire Fighters Assn James E. Toosan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1101) (Log #W5642) Howard T Stahl, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Rafael A. Torros, El Paso Assocation of Fire Fighters (Log #W1819) (Log #W129) Jay Stalcup, Lawrence Fire Dept (Log #W2390) Scott E. Townsend, Freeport Fire Department Local 441 George C Stanley, Redford Twp Fire Fighter Union (Log #W2207) (Log #W1897) Mark Train, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log #W5720) Larry Staples, Hamilton Fire Fighters (Log #W1497) Kimberly R. Trautman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian Stark, Hamilton Professional FireFighters Assoc. (Log #W4013) (Log #W22) Wade Traversy, Top Producer (Log #W6420) David Starofsky, City of Rock Island Fire Dept (Log #W2436) Cal Traversy, Vancouver Police Union (Log #W6421) Michael Steinbaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dallas Trill, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6386) (Log #W4788) Ronald A Truver, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin P Steiner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5105) (Log #W3785) Steven Turner, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1298) Kevin P Stengel, Clark County Fire Dept (Log #W1134) Dennis Tyler, Muncie Fire Fighters (Log #W1814) Edward J. Stengel, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas C Ullom, Westerville Division of Fire (Log #W1884) (Log #W4847) Ronald Ullrich, Port of Seattle Fire Dept (SEA-TAC Airport) David Stephenson, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W1346) Local 1487 (Log #W2059) Keith Underwood, Springfield Fire Fighters Local 37 Donna Stevens, Maple Ridge, BC (Log #W6287) (Log #W1451) Mike Stockstead, Minnesota Professional FireFighters Assn John Ungerman, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1367) (Log #W6433) Kenneth Stofanski, IAFF 1383 (Log #W6481) Ben J Upton, Royal Oak Fire Dept (Log #W1628) Eugene E. Stout, Muskegon Fire Fighters Local 370 David Valego, Chicopee Fire (Log #W1832) (Log #W1949) Albert M Valerioti, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W1634) Charles Stowell, Richmond (Log #W5904) George Van Dongen, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6301) John G Strawn, Omaha Fire Dept (Log #W2292) James Vannucchi, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W1484) John Stringert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4328) Jay Varkki, Surrey, BC (Log #W6355) Mark Stuart, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4494) Erik T. Vater, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4263) Edward Suchacek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas Veri, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4275) (Log #W5521) John Vietmeier, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Douglas P. Sudik, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W3706) (Log #W6051) Johnny Villarreal, Houston Fire Department (Log #W117) Don Suley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4713) Roger M. Vogel, Warren Fire Department (Log #W6477) Michael Sullivan, Nashua Fire Fighters (Log #W1290) Jeffrey Vogts, Prince Georges Co Fire EMS Dept (Log #W6199) James M Sullivan, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W1845) Gary L Vokovitch, Wauwatosa Professional Fire Fighters Robert C Sullivan, Harrisburg, PA (Log #W2362) (Log #W1548) John R Vollmer, City of Alexandria Fire Fighters (Log #W2300)

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Richard Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Aaron L Winslow, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4066) (Log #W5171) Mark Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5696) Jeffrey W Winters, Sioux Falls Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1534) David L Wade, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W6217) Larry Wishba, Orland Fire Fighters Local 2754 (Log #W1931) Greg Wagner, Brookfield Professional Fire Fighters Local 2051 Jeffrey V Witmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2225) (Log #W4524) Jon D Wagner, Reno Fire Fighters Assoc Iaff Local 731 John W Witner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2696) (Log #W4119) William P Wagner, II, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeanette Woldseth, /Rep. Bellevue Fire Fighters IAFF local 1604 (Log #W3858) (Log #W1129) Kenneth A Wahlen, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Bob Wolf, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W1434) (Log #W4110) Dave Wood, St. Catharine’s Professional Fire Fighters Joe Walko, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W1385) (Log #W1626) Jeff Wallin, Moorhead Fire Fighters (Log #W1373) Ken Wood, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6416) Tom Walsh, Newburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1417) Michael J Woodzicka, Appleton Professional Fire Fighters Scott P Walsh, East Pointe Fire Dept (Log #W2441) (Log #W1538) John C. Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas J Wosko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4382) (Log #W5059) John P Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5201) Roger Wright, Tucson, AZ (Log #W1838) Stanley J Walter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Keith W Wright, Severna Park, MD (Log #W1865) (Log #W5131) Louie A Wright, Kansas City, MO (Log #W2330) Gary E. Walz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5570) John J Wright, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Joseph G Ward, Chestnut Hill, MA (Log #W2296) (Log #W3892) Stephen Warner, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W2319) Pat Wright, Surrey, BC (Log #W6398) James Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Doug Wriston, Novato Fire District (Log #W2322) (Log #W4207) Dave Wyatt, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6332) Donald Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Diane Wyman, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W1176) (Log #W4757) Troy L Wymer, Brewnsburg Fire Territory (Log #W1818) Chris Wathen, Local 3217 (Log #W1135) James P. Wyzomirski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jason Watson, Delta, BC (Log #W6304) (Log #W5546) John Watt, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6302) Timothy L Yakich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frank T Watts, Amarillo Fire Dept (Log #W1616) (Log #W4853) Douglas W. Watts, Monmouth Fire Department Local 1702 Paul Yobbi, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4652) (Log #W2065) V Stephen Yocham, Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W141) Nick Watts, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W6381) Lester Yon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5465) Woodrow E. Webb, Williamsburg Fire Department Lester Yon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5466) (Log #W1667) Bob York, Wichita, TX (Log #W1380) Raymond C Webber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William P Young, Kansas City, KS (Log #W1128) (Log #W4943) Jim Young, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W1827) Jeffrey A Weidner, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters Russell Young, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4411) (Log #W1557) Daniel H Zahn, Sterling Fire Dept (Log #W1197) David Weisenberg, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W1826) David A. Zapf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5360) David A Wells, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W1368) Richard T. Zink, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6094) Charles E Wells, Roanoke City Fire & EMS (Log #W1841) Bruce D Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ed Wells, Surrey Fire Dept (Log #W6342) (Log #W5093) August Werner, Belleville Fire Fighters (Log #W2093) Michael Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pat West, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W1282) (Log #W5799) Lorne West, Surrey Fire Fighters (Log #W2445) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 Timothy Westwood, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters RECOMMENDATION: Accept the entire document as (Log #W4859) proposed. Buddy Wheatley, Covington Professional Fire Fighters SUBSTANTIATION: On behalf of the 110 members of IAFF (Log #W1632) Local 505 located in Decatur, Illinois we strongly support NFPA’s Terence M White, Prince Georges County Fire/EMS Dept groundbreaking decision to allow local autonomy in setting fire (Log #W3685) department service levels while still providing benchmarks for Harold E. White, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters staffing and response times. This standard will allow our (Log #W3748) community to set its own level of fire department service while William M. White, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters still furnishing the public a ruler by which to measure the level of (Log #W5823) protection provided by their tax dollars. Alvin White, Houston Fire Dept. (Log #W5922) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. Steven E. White, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #W6045) Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). Bruce Whiteside, Waterford Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1517) ______Richard Wiegand, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5769) Scott Wiegand, City of Warren Fire Department (Log #W6458) (Log #5) Andrew L. Wiegand, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6468) 1710- 16 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle Frederick B Wier, Wellesley, MA (Log #W1831) SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Durbin, Decatur, IL Jerry m Wiggins, Kinston, NC (Log #W1108) Scott B. Adams, Markham Fire Department (Log #W1756) Jerry Wiggins, Kinston Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2348) Don Adsit, Sterling Hts Fire (Log #W6255) Steve Wilding, Oak Creek Fire Fighters (Log #W1408) John M. Agnole, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary H Wilds, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4448) (Log #W3940) Jim Ahl, Kern County Fire Fighters (Log #W2876) J. Gary Wilkinson, City of Warren Fire Department David Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5018) (Log #W6478) Terri Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5746) Ed Willborn, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters Assn Allen R. Airesman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1105) (Log #W5510) Steven D Williams, Houston PFFA (Log #W1179) Mark Akins, Fulton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2184) Robert Williams, Scranton Fire (Log #W1610) Richard Alarcan, Orange City Fire Fighters (Log #W2532) James D Williams, Amarillo Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1615) James Alden Strain, P. G. Fire Dept. (Log #W6041) Scot A. Williams, Prince George’s County Fire/EMS William M. Alexander, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W6115) (Log #W4830) Donald Wilson, Boone, IA (Log #W1411) James H Alfred, III, Prince Georges Co. Fire Dept

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(Log #W6195) Ken Blanton, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W2575) Tyrone Allen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5776) Richard Blohm, Hoboken Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley Penny Allen, P.G. County MD (Log #W5858) Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3647) Marshall E Allen, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5976) Michael Boback, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Sean Alliger, Howard County Fire Rescue (Log #W6165) (Log #W3879) Benjamin S Allison, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5977) Ronald J. Bodnar, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rickie B Allison, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6025) (Log #W4607) David Allmon, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W2616) Steven W Bogard, Evansville Professional Fire Fighters Cary Altadonna, Centralia Fire Fighters (Log #W2922) (Log #W2622) Esteban S Alvarado, East Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W2929) Jose Bolanos, City of Vacaville (Log #W3363) Adrian Anderson, San Mateo County Fire Fighters (Log #W3109) Richard J. Bon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David R. Anderson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5679) (Log #W4365) Michael Bonham, Sacramento CA FF (Log #W3130) Bruce Ansell, Bellevue, WA (Log #W3114) Christopher R. Booz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph J. Arnold, Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W2124) (Log #W5812) John R Arnold, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Kenneth D. Boozer, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local (Log #W4174) 2073 (Log #W2078) Bob Arzave, San Fransisco Fire Fighters (Log #W2607) Richard C Bordley, Livermore Pleasanton Fire Dept Steven D Ashe, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2584) (Log #W3811) George M Borek, Jersey City Fire Dept (Log #W3333) David Atkin, San Ramon Valley Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3339) Scott Bort, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #7 (Log #W5972) Paul Atkinson, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn John W. Bossard, Clarkesville Fire Department (Log #W77) (Log #W2625) Michael Boucher, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5965) Robert Aubrey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Doug Bouvy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4131) (Log #W3684) Duane L Bowen, Altamonte Springs Professional Fire Fighters Kelly Bach, Tualatin Valley Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1774) (Log #W2628) Jack Ballinger, IAFF Local 754 (Log #W2035) Paul Boyle, /Rep. Halifax Fire Fighters (Log #W1768) Thomas R. Baltos, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Brace, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4293) (Log #W4032) Robert L Bragg, Charlottesville Fire Fighters (Log #W3387) Robert Balzer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Anthony C. Brahler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4041) (Log #W4317) David K. Banjanin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jean Brassard, Manchester Fire Dept (Log #W1701) (Log #W6455) Craig Braswell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W3336) Robert T. Bankert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Brennan, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5528) (Log #W5349) Richard Banske, Calumet City Fire Dept (Log #W3118) Robert F. Brett, British Columbia Professional Fire Fighters Chris Barden, Riverside City Fire Fighters (Log #W2593) Assoc (Log #W1992) Raymond L. Barringer, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dean Brewer, Waukesha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3933) (Log #W2889) Mark J. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3849) Bob Briare, Marin FF (Log #W3112) William F. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Walter S. Bricker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4643) (Log #W4078) Ronald H Bartolowits, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Bridle, Hampton Fire (Log #W2545) (Log #W4506) Robert Broadwater, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5983) Kenneth C Barton, Lancaster Bureau of Fire (Log #W3080) Todd Brook, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5999) Darwin Base, Oxnard City Fire (Log #W2538) Eddie J. Brooks, Peoria Fire Department Station #10 Greg Bass, Bellingham, WA (Log #W3101) (Log #W1596) Gary Batch, City of New London (Log #W136) Paul Brown, Big Spring Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Bruce Bateson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W42) (Log #W4874) Robert E. Brown, New Rochelle Fire Department (Log #W3454) Raymond T. Batico, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Glen T. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4673) (Log #W3736) Jeff Baugrud, Racine, WI (Log #W3074) George R. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bruce Baurichter, Tacoma Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5064) (Log #W3378) Lloyd J. Browning, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph W Bayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5433) (Log #W4805) Michael J. Brozovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Bayster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4745) (Log #W3653) John L. Beardmore, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Michael J. Brozovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W6065) (Log #W3656) Frank R Becker, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard L. Brutt , Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4557) (Log #W5577) Brian Belitsky, Yorkton, SK (Log #W2621) Thomas A Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Paul J. Bell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4894) (Log #W3756) Mark P. Benko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3931) (Log #W3908) Mike Buehler, DFFA (Log #W3060) William Benson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth J. Burg, Wilmington DE (Log #W5876) (Log #W5649) Robert A Burke, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Wayne G. Bernoska, Seminole County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3998) (Log #W2142) Christina Burkert, Protective Services Empl. Coalition Melvin Berry, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #7 (Log #W5970) (Log #W17) Shonna Bertlesman, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6024) William Burkhard, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters David J. Beyer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2941) (Log #W5117) Richard Burns, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Thomas R. Bichler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3989) (Log #W4816) Eddie Burns, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6007) David Bickford, Bangor Fire Fighters Assoc Local 772 Michael Burrier, Salt Lake County Fire Dept (Log #W3402) (Log #W2244) Thomas C Busch, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6207) William T. Biggs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rich Butcher, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2463) (Log #W5601) Donald J. Butler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert Bittikifer, Detroit (Log #W6159) (Log #W4436) Grant Blake, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local 2073 John Buzon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5052) (Log #W2084) David P Byrnes, Northern Ohio Fire Fighters (Log #W2999)

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James M. Byrnes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffery Crawford, Dale City, VA (Log #W3102) (Log #W5685) James Crawford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Calbick, Delta Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3405) (Log #W4965) Michael V Callavo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe H Crawford, VR-B1 (Log #W5958) (Log #W4866) Kevin M Crews, Sr., Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W6171) John A. Cannon, Professional Fire Fighters of Maine Local 740 Joseph Crnkovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2238) (Log #W5449) Deborah Cantwell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log Joseph Crnkovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W2940) (Log #W5450) James Caputo, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W65) Robert D Cromie, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Hector Cardenas, IAFF Local 624 (Log #W2265) (Log #W5035) Bryan Carnahan, Ottumwa, IA (Log #W3385) John Cross, Covington Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2928) Henry R Carner, IAFF (Log #W6439) Mike Crouse, IAFF Local F123 (Log #W2004) James Carney, Plain Township Fire Fighters Local 3850 Dan Crow, Redlands Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2568) (Log #W1914) John D. Crowley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy J Carney, City of South Euclid (Log #W2998) (Log #W4938) Kevin E Carnrick, Hingham Fire Dept (Log #W2948) Stephen J Cummings, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Vincent R Carroccia, Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W3390) (Log #W4513) Keith Cash, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5178) Timothy S Curtis, Beloit Fire Fighters (Log #W2885) William P Castillo, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6231) Ronald Cushing, Manchester Fire Department Local 856 Mauro Cetra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4477) (Log #W2262) Richard Chaney, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W3379) Scott Cypher, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4335) Leo Chapman, Regina, Sask (Log #W1920) Michael D’Orazi, City of Alameda Fire Dept (Log #W3340) Russell Chard, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Robert J. Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2977) (Log #W3859) Roland M Chavez, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W3376) Thomas C Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frederick Childs, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 (Log #W4973) (Log #W2478) Jon Daly, Valapraiso Fire Fighters Local 1124 (Log #W29) Pasquale Chirumbolo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John A Daly, Worcester Fire Dept (Log #W2960) (Log #W5152) Gene A Dangel, San Ramon Valley Fire (Log #W3337) Andrew D. Chulack, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott Daniel, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5367) (Log #W2459) Robert Ciesielski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Daniels, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5661) (Log #W4216) Karl P. Cincotta, Dover Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Michael J Danyko, Fairview Fire Dept (Log #W6189) (Log #W1711) Robert Dary, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5951) William Cinker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey Daum, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3838) (Log #W5830) Bob DAusilio, Alhambra Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2540) George Clark, Utica, NY (Log #W2573) Kevin G Davis, City of Sioux Falls Fire Rescue (Log #W3072) Roy P. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4111) Phil Dawson, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Charles T. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3369) (Log #W5691) Kevin Dawyskibr, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W2979) Troy Clark, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #3 (Log #W5990) Clemente De La Cruz, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6009) Troy L Clark, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6002) John DeJulio, Olathe Fire Dept (Log #W2487) Frederick G. Cleis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth Deke, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6013) (Log #W5041) Brian Delfs, Tucson, AZ (Log #W2954) William Clifford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Louis P Demici, Danbury Fire Dept (Log #W2908) (Log #W4620) Jeremiah J Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Pat Clinch, Helena, MT (Log #W2962) (Log #W3820) Dan E Cochran, Coenr d’Alene Fire Dept (Log #W2469) Joseph C. Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William T Cochran, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W2945) (Log #W4059) Bill Coennen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3887) William E. Dengler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bill Cole, Ottawa Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Local 162 (Log #W4149) (Log #W2053) Charles W. Denham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Coleman, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W2562) (Log #W4803) David Ray Collard, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #3 (Log #W5991) Edward Derby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Andrew Collins, Colorado Springs Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4395) (Log #W2964) Joseph M. Deresh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Renee Coltz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5355) (Log #W4561) Eugene Compton, Richmond Fire/EMS Dept. (Log #W5930) Pat Devaney, Champaign Fire Fighters (Log #W3128) Dennis Condon, Needham Fire Fighters (Log #W2976) Robert E Dewitt, Hastings Fire Dept (Log #W2956) Mark W Cone, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5986) Timothy Robert Dhayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay C Confort, Bellingham, WA (Log #W3366) (Log #W3694) Francis P. Conlon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike DiBattiste, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4270) (Log #W4679) Joe Conway, Fire Fighters Local 311 (Log #W2902) Paul Diedrich, Southgate Fire Dept (Log #W2918) Patrick Cook, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2582) Jeffrey S. Dillon, Mesquite Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W48) David Cook, Youngstown Fire Dept (Log #W2919) Steven J Dirksen, Professional Fire Fighters of South Dakota (Log Curtis M Cook, Willoughby Fire Dept (Log #W3356) #W2869) Jeffrey Cook, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W3374) Kenneth J Diulus, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ross Cook, Montgomery Co. #1664 (Log #W6111) (Log #W5190) Lora Cooke, Dale City, VA (Log #W3394) David Divosevic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters RIck Cornell, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #3 (Log #W5949) (Log #W4547) James Cornyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4489) Dennis Doan, Professional Fire Fighters of Idaho (Log #W2969) Jeff Cotner, Bloom Twp Fire Dept (Log #W2994) Sheryl Dobbs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5655) John Cowan, Detroit Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3058) Paul Dober, Lwr. Sack ville, NS (Log #W3013) Jeff Cowley, Sedgwick County Fire Fighters (Log #W2475) Russell E. Dodge , Jr., Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6105) Edward Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3701) Kevin F. Doherty, New Rochelle Fire Department (Log #W3446) Robert Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5619) James W Dolan, Sr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lester H. Cragan III, Concord Professional Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W5226) (Log #W71) Stephen Domanski, Clinton Twp Fire Rescue (Log #W6249) Darrel B Crane, San Bernardino County Professional Fire James Dominey, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5982) Fighters (Log #W2484)

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Ken Donechie, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Palm Richard Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bch Co (Log #W2906) (Log #W5421) Robert C Dooley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John T Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4990) (Log #W4842) Richard C. Doppes, Jr., Cincinnati Fire Division E-19 Mark Fitzsimmons, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5936) (Log #W2626) Don Dorsey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4225) Dean Fletcher, IAFF Local 1285 (Log #W2527) James E Doucette, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W3341) Chris M. Flora, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Downer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5307) (Log #W5313) Bill Floyd, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5818) Mark Drinkut, Anderson Fire Dept (Log #W2933) Richard F Foerch, Woodbridge Fire Dept (Log #W2591) Thomas P Drudy, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Patrick T Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4035) (Log #W4072) Michael Drury, Merrill Fire Fighters (Log #W2880) Timothy Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Raymond H Ducover, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5295) (Log #W5021) John T. Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas M Duffola, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5409) (Log #W3953) Pasquale Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Patrick Duffy, Oak Forest Fire Fighters Union (Log #W2990) (Log #W4323) Daniel Dugan, DC Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1674) Michael G. Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tim Duncan, Clinton Twp Fire Dept (Log #W6261) (Log #W4371) Ronald D Dunfield, City of Jackson Fire Fighters (Log #W3413) James R. Ford, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W59) Terry Dunne, Peoria Fire Department (Log #W1602) James E. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Durkin, Youngstown Fire (Log #W2916) (Log #W5404) Steve A Durkit, Coyahoga Falls Fire Dept (Log #W2935) Thomas F. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Barry Dutton, Bismark Fire Department Local 2468 (Log #W5458) (Log #W2232) Don Forrest, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W2896) Thomas J. Dutton, P.G. County MD (Log #W5852) Jeff Forson, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5962) Thomas A Early, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James A Fossos, Seattle Fire Dept (Log #W3135) (Log #W4774) Billy A Foster, Memphis Fire Dept (Log #W2972) Carl L Eastham, Huntington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log Mark Foster, Fort Worth Fire Dept E-28 (Log #W5959) #W2955) Gerald P Fox, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Gary W. Edge, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W100) (Log #W3847) Patrick Eggleston, Binghamton, NY (Log #W3354) Mark S Frank, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #10 (Log #W5957) John Eisel, Violet Twp Fire Dept (Log #W3125) Paul Fredrich, Racing, WI (Log #W2564) Francis Elder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5553) Elliott J Fredrick, NOFFA (Log #W2460) Daniel A. Elias, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Frieders, Aurora Fire Fighters (Log #W2867) (Log #W5441) Carl Fritz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4534) John M Elliott, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Guy Fujio, Honolulu Fire Dept (Log #W3349) (Log #W3729) Mark Fuller, North Kansas Fire Fighters (Log #W3397) James M. Ellis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard T Furlong, Harvey Fire Dept (Log #W3119) (Log #W5474) Thomas M. Gabriel, Miami Assocation of Fire Fighters local 587 Oscar M Elmasian, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W3371) (Log #W1944) Paul Elmendorf, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W3105) Mike Gabriel, Dubuque Fire Fighters (Log #W2458) Frank Emiliano, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Bradley P Gaiser, Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc of Scarsdale (Log #W2978) (Log #W3107) Dave Engler, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W2982) James T Galvin, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W2897) Thomas English, San Bernandino City Professional Fire Fighters Thomas Ganiere, /Rep. Ottawa Fire Fighters Local 523 Assn (Log #W2587) (Log #W2110) Lisa Epps, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4483) Fred P Garavelli, Albany Fire Dept Professional Fire Fighters Pablo Escamilla, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6017) (Log #W3396) Mark Espinosa, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6032) Tom Gardner, Sacramento, CA (Log #W2596) Scott Esposito, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2462) John R. Gardner, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Eulberg, North Metro Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4406) (Log #W2570) Roger Garver, Eugene, OR (Log #W2961) Timothy J Evangelista, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark P Garvey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5184) (Log #W3778) Sam Evans, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5952) Mark Gasiorowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas M. Fahringer, Torrance Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1138 (Log #W5427) (Log #W2214) Phillip Gauer, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W3407) John M. Fanelli, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gerald P Gay, Sanford Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1736) (Log #W5385) Melvin S Gay, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5265) Lt. Edmund Farley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin Gee, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng 21 (Log #W5984) (Log #W4921) Mark Gehri, City of Bedford Hts Fire Dept (Log #W2997) Dale Farrell, Saskatoon, SK (Log #W2629) Brian George, London Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2285) Richard Farrell, Victoria Fire Fighters Local 730 (Log #W3520) Stan George, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2464) Darlene Faulconer, Montgomery County Career Fire Fighters Jerome Ghafoor, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Assn (Log #W1691) (Log #W5625) Robert K Faurot, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3346) David E. Gibson, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc Local 58 Michael Feeney, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 (Log #W2072) (Log #W2202) John Gilleran, IAFF Local 3177 (Log #W2130) Richard A. Fehl, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David W Gillotte, LA County Fire Fighters Local 1014 (Log #W4634) (Log #W3404) Michael S. Ferke, Scranton Fire Fighters (Log #W1646) Joseph J. Giorgianni, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kristine Ferreira, Upper Marlboro, MD (Log #W6237) (Log #W4311) James C. Ferris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Glaser, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3661) (Log #W4102) James R Fiering, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Alfred Q. Glaze, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4092) (Log #W4733) Larry Fierro, LA City Fire (Log #W2894) Chuck Glines, Vondenberg Fire, Local F116 (Log #W1974) Roberto E Fimbs, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6016) Jerome J Gnipp, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Barry Fitz, Fire Fighters Local 413 (Log #W2907) (Log #W3719) Jimmy Goebel, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6000)

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Henry J Goliat, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Al Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5301) (Log #W5289) Gary W. Hickey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Gollner, Greenfield, Wi (Log #W2881) (Log #W5703) John A. Gombita, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fred Higgins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4466) (Log #W5492) Greg Higgins, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6029) Antonio Gomes, Easton Fire Dept (Log #W1799) David L. Higgs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Freddie Gonzales, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4772) (Log #W5075) Damon T. HIll, Sr., PGH Professional Fire Fighters/Rep. Federico Gonzales, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6030) Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6488) Doug A. Goodman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Barry Hilling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4893) (Log #W5137) Nick Hillner, Whichita Falls, TX (Log #W2492) William Michael Gorham, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Larry Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4000) (Log #W5247) Mark Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4903) Michael Gorizre, Associated Fire Fighters Matteson (Log Rick Hinchcliffe, Greeley-Union Coloney Fire Rescue Auth #W3329) (Log #W2615) Jeff Gottbreht, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W2966) Gerald Hirschfeld, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John P. Gourley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3714) (Log #W4299) Brian K Hishinuma, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W2899) Richard Greene, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ron Hittle, Stockton Fire Department (Log #W2190) (Log #W3798) Mark Hoffmann, Oakland Fire Dept (Log #W3328) David Greenwood, Birmingham Fire Dept (Log #W3120) Paul Hogan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5673) David G Gregorich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Hogelin, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W2967) (Log #W4825) Mark Hogrebe, Allen Park Fire Dept (Log #W2993) Vincent Griffin, Oaklawn, IL (Log #W1902) Toussaint M Holland, Fairfax County (Log #W6153) Ryan M. Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William G Hollander, Kansas City KS Fire Dept (Log #W2893) (Log #W4590) William Holley, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6008) Sean Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5740) Jim Holmes, London Professional Fire Fighters Assn Robert W Griffiths, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3370) (Log #W4606) Paul R Holmquist, Yarmouth Permanent Fire Fighters Sandra Grubb, PGFD (Log #W6177) (Log #W3383) William Gruckert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary Homberg, Kankakee Fire Fighters Local 653 (Log #W2789) (Log #W5836) Rick Honsberger, Thorold Professional Fire Fighters Gerald E. Grunert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1811) (Log #W4614) Eric V Hopp, Elgin, IL (Log #W2915) Troy Haase, Fondulac Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2874) Leo Horton, S Lake Tahoe, CA (Log #W3382) Ryan T. Haid, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5565) James W Horton, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6023) Walter R. Haig, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy R. Hottenfeller, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4228) (Log #W5486) Rieck Hairston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Howard, City of Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W157) (Log #W3826) William A Howe, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W3116) Robert Hall, Vancouver Fire & Rescue local 18 (Log #W2100) Paul Hoy, Torrance Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2871) Mark S Hall, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W2974) Ron Huddleston, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5973) B R Hall, Nashville Fire Fighters (Log #W3391) Gerry Huger, /Rep. Sask. Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Dale A. Hall, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5504) (Log #W1762) John Halsey, CSPFFA (Log #W3389) Bobby G. Humphryes, Birmingham Fire Fighters Assoc. Local Robert M Halston, Egelston Professional Fire Fighters Union 117 (Log #W1968) 3901 (Log #W1956) John D. Hunt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4989) Keith Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Guy D. Hunter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2160) (Log #W5398) Ian Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Tom Huston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4377) (Log #W2630) Brad Hutchings, North Hampton Fire & Rescue (Log #W1784) Thomas Hanify, Indianapolis Fire Fighter Union (Log #W2936) Joseph C. Imburgia, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John F. Hanley, Local 798 (Log #W1789) (Log #W5788) Lance Hanson, Eau Claire Fire Fighters (Log #W2879) Stanley W. Ingle, Knoxville Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W2344) Eugene A. Harnish, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis E. Isaac, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 (Log #W3947) (Log #W2041) Larry J Hartley, Marion City Fire Dept (Log #W3412) Russell Jack, Everett Fire Department (Log #W1467) Michael Hassinger, Bucyrus Fire Fighters (Log #W2927) Shawn R Jackson, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1751) Charles C Hawkins, Jr, Seattle Fire Fighters Union (Log #W3073) Matt Jackson, JCFFA Local 3309 (Log #W2476) Michael P Hawkins, Shaker Hts Fire Dept (Log #W3408) Brian K. Jackson, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tim Healy, City of Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W2888) (Log #W3771) Alan Hefter, West Bend Fire Fighters (Log #W2868) Carl Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4050) Steve Heim, Lincoln Park Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W2917) Kevin Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Rod Heivilin, Shoreline Fire Fighters (Log #W2970) (Log #W4242) David L. Helbling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Philip Jandrokovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4347) (Log #W4155) Paul W Helms, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Randy T Jankowski, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4956) (Log #W3801) Michael Hemphill, Bogalusa Fire Fighters (Log #W2903) Joseph J Janosko, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Henderson, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5947) (Log #W4877) Ian R Henis, Vancouver Fire & Rescue Service (Log #W2455) Dave Jarvis, Reno Airport Fire Dept (Log #W3076) Joe Henning, Fire Fighters Local 63 (Log #W2913) Roger C Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Sheldon J. Henry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4161) (Log #W5848) Vince Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Allen Henson, Littleton Fire Fighters Local 2086 (Log #W2220) (Log #W5088) Thomas Herak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Ralph Jedd, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4083) (Log #W4253) Richard Jock, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4535) James A. Herbst, Great Lakes Fire Department Local F37 James Johnson, IAFF Local F-88 (Log #W181) (Log #W1926) Randy Johnson, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W1721) Donald Heritage, Joplin, MO (Log #W3115) Robert W. Johnson, Harwich Fire Department Local 2124 Aaron Herschman, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Co. 49 (Log #W2029) (Log #W6135) Jeff Johnson, Oshkosh Fire Dept (Log #W2473) Mark Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4418) Jay Johnson, San Mateo County FF (Log #W3353)

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Shana Johnson, Rescus 14 Cincinnati Fire Division John P Labishak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5942) (Log #W3910) J E Jones, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2632) Daivd Lachenaue, Waterton Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3330) Fletcher Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ed Lacombe, New Bedford MA (Log #W5864) (Log #W4546) David Lang, Professional Fire Fighters of Hampton David W. Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2533) (Log #W5842) Leonard K. Lang, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy J. Joyce, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5794) (Log #W5534) Brian F Lange, Dekalb Fire Fighters (Log #W2905) Timothy J. Joyce, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George Lange, City of Strongsville (Log #W3358) (Log #W5536) Thomas W Larbig, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters William F. Juergen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4234) (Log #W5516) John Latta, OCPFA Local 3631 (Log #W2534) Randall Jute, Lake Worth, FL (Log #W3082) William J. Lawrence, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gregg P Kadow, Manitowoc Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4454) (Log #W2890) Todd Leake, Ventura County Professional FireFighter Assoc. Fred P Kaeberlein, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W2528) (Log #W2580) Emily Kane, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W3100) Fred LeBlanc, Kingston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Tom Karnas, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3410) (Log #W2631) Robert H Lee, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3351) John Kastran, Farmington Hills Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2623) James P Lee, Whitpain Fire Dept (Log #W3392) William G Kauahikaua, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3352) Anthony D Leeper, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6026) Greg Keefe, Newark Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2943) Daniel Leffler, University Hts Fire Dept (Log #W3357) Gregg Keeton, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6001) Al Leier, Prince George Fire Fighters Union (Log #W2627) Glenn Keiffer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jordan M Lemieux, Holyoke Fire Dept (Log #W2965) (Log #W3768) Charles J Lenz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Keller, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5955) (Log #W4598) James Paul Kelley, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5985) W James Leve, Portage Fire Fighters (Log #W2944) Francis D Kelly, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W2612) Mark T. Lewandowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael A Kelly, Livonia Fire Fighters (Log #W2866) (Log #W4125) Michael T. Kelly, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J. Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4519) (Log #W3759) K W Kelly, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5961) Charles L Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeff Kemp, Richmond Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3367) (Log #W4167) Francis Kennedy, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2985) Varnell Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5667) Robert J. Kerestes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William R Ley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4567) (Log #W5100) Mark Liberator, Canton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2925) Robert J. Kerestes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Lloyd Linch, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5956) (Log #W5102) Bruce Linner, BC-5 Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy Kernan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4666) (Log #W5143) Tim Littlefield, Algonquin Lake In The Hill Fire Fighters Union Joe Kerr, Orange County Fire Authority (Log #W2561) (Log #W1681) Maureen Kerrigan, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Bob Livingston, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W4025) (Log #W1779) Robert E Kiefer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Locnikar, Fargo Fire (Log #W2600) (Log #W4691) Matt Loewen, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2891) Jeffrey M Kihune, Maui Fire Dept (Log #W3348) Paul Lombardo, Lahabra Fire Fighters (Log #W2589) Patrick Kilbane, Janesville Fire Fighters (Log #W3377) Robert B Lomerson, Jr, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 Joseph J. Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5953) (Log #W4401) Kevin R. Long, Mashpee Fire Fighters Local 2519 (Log #W2250) David Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5010) Steve Long, KCK Fire Dept (Log #W2477) Michael T. King, Fairfax County (Log #W6147) Larry G Long, Stockton Fire Dept (Log #W2566) Stephen J Kinneavy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Lorenz, Baltimore, MD (Log #W2952) (Log #W4697) Robert Losket, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5001) James M. Kirby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert F Lostetter, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5595) (Log #W5160) Stephen C. Klein, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tom Lovell, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W2490) (Log #W4341) Craig W Lowe, City of Santa Rosa Fire Dept (Log #W3335) Robert Knerr, Navsta Ingleside Fire Dept (Log #W2506) Gregory A Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin Knight, Aurora Fire Dept (Log #W2539) (Log #W4588) Charles Koelker, Cumberland, MD (Log #W3381) Richard E Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul C. Konarowski, Oshawa FireFighters Assocation (Log #W5125) (Log #W54) Stephen Ludmann, Blue Ash Fire Fighters (Log #W2614) Gerald Kosaki, Hawaii Fire Dept (Log #W3350) Mark D. Lundy, City of Worthington Division of Fire & EMS (Log John F. Kramer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W2172) (Log #W5392) Kenny G Luse, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng 18 (Log #W5996) John J Kreger, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5277) Robert G Luther, Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W2872) Norman Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James L Luttrell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2583) (Log #W3805) Dennis Lyman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Alan Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5715) (Log #W4627) Dennis Kruger, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W2610) Paul Lyons, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4209) Brian J. Krull, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5607) Joseph F. Machovec, Baltimore City Fire Officers Assoc William David Kuhnell, City of Ft Worth Fire Prevention, (Log #W1586) Arson/Bomb Invest. (Log #W6283) Richard Macklin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay M. Kunkel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5559) (Log #W5415) Michael Kurtsinger, Louisville Professional Fire Fighters J Macleod, Van Fire & Rescue (Log #W2617) (Log #W3002) Robert G. MacMaster, Augusta Uniformed Fire Fighters Elizabeth C Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Association (Log #W2023) (Log #W3742) Joseph Magliocca, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David H Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4577) (Log #W5271) Michael A La Capra, Kansas City Fire Dept (Log #W3113) Michael F Magnan (Log #Woonsocket Fire Dept (Log #W1794) Thomas R La montagne, Portsmouth Fire Dept (Log #W1706) Elmer Mahaffy, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W6059)

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Roger J Maher, III, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Meringer, Oshawa Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2619) (Log #W4793) Joe Merritt, Fairfax Fire Rescue FS 18 (Log #W6077) Chris Mahon, Ventura Cty Fire Dept (Log #W2542) Barry Mesley, Miami Township Fire & EMS (Log #W2930) Thomas Makar, Wilkes-Barre Fire Fighters (Log #W3386) Donald Messier, Somersworth, NH (Log #W2450) David Manfredo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Don Mette, Sacramento Metro Fire Dist (Log #W3342) (Log #W4287) Scott T Meyers, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5954) Kelly Mannion, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Rick Michael, West Chicago, IL (Log #W2556) (Log #W3922) Robert W. Michel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian K Manship, Selma, IN (Log #W2932) (Log #W5613) Kevin Manson, Jr., West Hartford Fire Dept. (Log #W5918) James H Miller, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W2465) Brian Markewinski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey A Miller, Town of Beloit Fire Dept (Log #W2887) (Log #W4424) Chris Miller, Dehli Township Fire Dept (Log #W2931) Greg B Markley, Kent Fire Fighters (Log #W1731) Weldon Miller, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5967) John A Marks, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 John Miller, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6012) (Log #W2479) Michael R. Milligan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael J. Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5325) (Log #W3667) Reuben M. Millsaps, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W94) William Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael E Minton, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3873) (Log #W3129) Art Marshall, Santa Clara County Fire Fighters (Log #W3136) William Mirt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5734) Wiliam Martin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Misencik, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4884) (Log #W4739) Elmer Martinez, Pocatello Fire Fighters (Log #W2488) Erwin Miske, City of Rocky River (Log #W2995) Jeffrey B Martinez, #16 (Log #W6033) Kenneth Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Patrick Martyn, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4198) (Log #W3355) Christopher Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Art Martynuska, Johnstown Fire Fighters (Log #W3343) (Log #W5480) Keith O Mary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5283) G L Mitchell, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #7 (Log #W5968) Thomas M Marzheuser, Cincinnati Fire Dept (Log #W3360) Cager Mitchell, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6021) Monty Chris Mashburn, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6010) Leroy Mobley, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Massone, San Diego Federal Fire Fighters (Log #W82) (Log #W5631) Richard V. Mastandrea, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas J. Moffitt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4782) (Log #W4685) Mark A. Mastison, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Paul Mogavero, Toronto Fire Service (Log #W2624) (Log #W1908) Paul Molkenbuhr, Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Dept Jim Matthews, Engine #2 West Hartford CT (Log #W5912) (Log #W3409) Joe Matuszewski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Curt S Monte, Baton Rouge Assn of Fire Fighters (Log #W2457) (Log #W4950) Jay Montenbrey, IAFF Local 2915 (Log #W2017) Frederick H. Mays, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Montoya, Los Angeles County Fire Fighters (Log #W2586) (Log #W5782) Gregory M Mooney, Massport Fire Fighters (Log #W3388) William F Mazon, III, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Rick Moore, Fire Fighters Association Local 36/Rep. District of (Log #W3868) Columbia Fire Fighters (Log #W1459) Lawrence Mazza, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian Moore, Vacaville Fire Fighters (Log #W2525) (Log #W5337) Travis O. Moore, San Antonio Fire Dept. (Log #W5900) Daniel R McCarthy, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W2901) Christopher Moore, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5989) Terrence L McCarthy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin R Morgan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4979) (Log #W5241) Mark McCormick, Santa Rosa Fire Fighters (Log #W3103) Chris Morlan, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6213) Stephen McDaniel, Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6106) Michael R. Morris, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1660) Roy McDonald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeff Morris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5214) (Log #W3675) Jeffrey A Morrow, Taylor Professional Fire Fighters Timothy T McDonnell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Professional (Log #W2636) Fire Fighters (Log #W2937) Donald R. Moses, McDonough, GA (Log #W2148) John McDonough, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Leo Mostyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4281) (Log #W5232) Michael J. Mullen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David M. McEndoo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4305) (Log #W4908) Adrian Munday, Fairfax, VA (Log #W2975) John A McGee, Manchester PFF (Log #W3375) Dennis Murray, St. Louis Co Fire Fighters (Log #W2605) R L McGhee, IAFF Local 176 (Log #W1741) Victor D Muto, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard L. McGrail, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5116) (Log #W5331) Phillip Myers, Park Forest Fire Fighers Assoc (Log #W2178) David McIntyre, Clinton Township Fire Department Local 1381 Lawrence A Naddy, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of (Log #W2274) Palm Bch Co (Log #W2914) Herman P McKinney, Jr, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng 19 Tom Neal, St. Cloud Fire Dept (Log #W3384) (Log #W5997) Sean P. Neary, Detoroit Fire Department (Log #W36) Dennis McKnight, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Nedwidek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4727) (Log #W3960) J. David McLean, Dover Fire Officers (Log #W2467) Fernando Negrete, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 Edgar W McLean, Burlington Fire Dept (Log #W3078) (Log #W2196) Michael McMahon, Hampton, NH (Log #W3127) Michael G. Neibauer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike McManus, Binghamton, NY (Log #W3420) (Log #W4353) Darren M McNeil, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Douglas H Neil, Great Falls Fire/Rescue (Log #W2963) (Log #W5253) Dan A Neill, City of Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W2482) Pat McOsker, UFLA C (Log #W2900) Chris Nelson, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5994) Mike McOsker, United Fire Fighters of Los Angeles Edward A Nemeth, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W3003) (Log #W3327) Tony Neratini, Vancouver Fire Rescue Services (Log #W3368) Larry J. McPhail, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association Jeff Nester, Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5728) (Log #W3364) William J McQuillen, Portsmouth Fire Fighters Assn Donald E. Newham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2544) (Log #W5154) James W Meinzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Les Newman, Thunder Bay Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4932) (Log #W3117) Alan Menillo, Fainfield Fire Fighters (Log #W3081)

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Mike Nichols (Log #Waco Professional Fire fighters John L Phillips, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6006) (Log #W3362) Frank Pierce, Shelby Twp Fire Dept (Log #W3000) Chris J Nickoloff, South Metro Professional Fire Fighters Gregory Pietras, Chicopee Fire Fighters (Log #W2983) (Log #W2921) Larry Pikora, Hanover Park Professional Fire Fighters David J Nicotra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3071) (Log #W4501) John A. Piotrowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas J. Niemiec, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3983) (Log #W4720) Bernie Piro, Shreveport Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2456) John R Niemiec, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Joseph Piro, Easton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3098) (Log #W6267) Jason Plogmann, Cincinnati Fire Division - D3 (Log #W6035) Scott Nishisaka, Burbank Fire Fighters (Log #W3070) Jerry Pobicki, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3789) Ben Nix, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6014) H. John Powell, Haverhill Fire Fighters (Log #W2531) Kenneth W Nolen, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng 18 (Log #W5995) James L Powers, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Michael H. Nolf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3832) (Log #W4442) Monte W. Prasin, Decatur, IL (Log #W88) Stephen E Norris, LA City Fire (Log #W2895) Douglas J. Praskovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jimmy H Norton, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6011) (Log #W5583) Ronald F. Novak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth Pravek, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W2472) (Log #W3919) Gary Presbaugh, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6031) Jeffery S Novak, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6005) Daniel H Preston, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn Hector Nunez, Tyler Fire Department/Rep. Tyler Professional (Log #W2550) Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W106) Damon Price, Fairfax Co. Fire & Rescue (Log #W5870) Richard O’Brien, Professional Fire Fighters & Paramedics of NC Christopher D. Prickett, Dekalb Professional Fire Fighters local (Log #W3069) 1492 (Log #W1938) David O’Leary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Priester, Orange County Fire/Rescue (Log #W2451) (Log #W5752) Tommy K. Propst, Orange County Fire & Rescue, Local 2057 Kevin O’Mara, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W2597) (Log #W2136) Perry Oldenburg, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W2968) Michael Pudup, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Walter T. Oldham, Memphis Fire Department local 1784 (Log #W4576) (Log #W1998) Luis Puentes, East Moline, IL (Log #W3064) Charles Oleary, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Kevin Quinn, Elk Grove Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4180) (Log #W3414) Donald R Olguin, Boulder Fire Fighters (Log #W3132) Michael Quinn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gordon Olson, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1726) (Log #W4710) Leonard Orlando, Green Bay Fire Department Local 141 David A Rabb, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2268) (Log #W4186) James Orton, Vaughan Fire Fighters Local 1595 (Log #W2501) Frank P Raffa, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2987) Richard Osborn, Glenside Fire Protection Dist (Log #W3068) Ray Rahne, Colorado Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2986) Charles A. Ossler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert A. Rajnovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3726) (Log #W5343) Mark Ouellette, Professional Fire Fighters of New Hamphsire David A. Raleigh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2332) (Log #W4703) Anthony Pagano, Yonkers Fire Fighters (Log #W3104) Rob Rankin, Local 1053 (Log #W2326) Raymond M Palczynski, DAPFF (Log #W2971) Norman D. Rathke, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald J. Palmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5541) (Log #W4359) Jeffrey P Rawson, Washington, MA (Log #W2453) Richard T Paltaut (Log #Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W3106) Mark D. Rectenwald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J Panchura, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4967) (Log #W3967) Robert Redente, City of East Haven Local 1205 (Log #W2010) Greg Parker, San Bernandino City Fire Fighters (Log #W3131) Brian J Reed, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W2973) Bill Parlow, Brockton Fire Fighters (Log #W2988) Mark Reed, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn Hugo Patino, Modesto City Fire Fighters (Log #W3332) (Log #W2981) Rick Patterson, Prince George’s County (Log #W6123) Michael L Reed, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W3406) Richard H Pattison, Houston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Michael Reeves, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log #W1716) (Log #W2942) Rickie Paul, Norwood Fire Dept (Log #W3126) Jim Reidy, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters Assn Lou Paulson, United PFF of Contra Costa County (Log #W3344) (Log #W3416) David A Peaton, Fort Worth Fire Dept E-28 (Log #W5960) Thomas A. Reinheimer, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Christopher M Pedrotty, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W5030) #W5196) Larry A Rekasie, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeffry M. Pegg, Local 344 (Log #W6141) (Log #W4052) Michael Peltz, Springfield Missouri Fire FIghters (Log #W3099) John Remillard, Norristown, PA (Log #W2535) Greg Perdue, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5069) Steven W Repp, IAFF Local 1773 (Log #W2468) Manuel A Perez, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5980) Mark Rhame, Orange Conty Fire Rescue (Log #W1805) Steven Perez, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6004) Jason T Rhodes, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5979) James M Perkins, City of Bradford (Log #W2480) Mike Rhyner, Tucson Fire Fighter (Log #W3399) Lawrence Perkins, Seabrook Professional Fire Fighters Brian K Rice, Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District (Log #W2523) (Log #W2602) Rard Perkins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4258) Michael Richards, Poquonnock Bridge Professional Fire Fighters James Perrott, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5220) Assn (Log #W3359) Frank R. Perry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy Richardson, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5373) (Log #W2558) Robert F Pesa, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4815) Brad Richardson, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5998) William Peterson, Coon Rapids Fire Dept (Log #W3334) Cecil D Ridge, Modesto Fire Fighters (Log #W3326) Thomas Petronio, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jon Riley, Vallejo Fire Dept (Log #W3338) (Log #W4926) Clifton Rineheart, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6225) Donald W Petschke, Buffalo Fire Dept (Log #W3395) Edward Riveros, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W2898) Billy C. Petty, Mesquite FireFighters Assoc (Log #W11) Keith Roach, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4751) Mike Pfeiffer (Log #Whitby Professional Fire Fighters Assocation Scotty Roberts, Henrico Co Fire (Log #W2474) (Log #W163) Robert L Robertson, DeKalb County Professional Fire Fighters Ron Phillips, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1487 (Log #W2154) (Log #W2166) James Robinson, Clayton County Professional Fire Fighters Dennis Phillips, Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W2481) (Log #W124)

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John T Robinson, Newport Professional Fire Fighters Union John L. Sharpe, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3411) (Log #W3898) Lester A Robinson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Patrick E. Shaw, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4192) (Log #W5589) Thomas J. Robinson, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Dennis Shearn, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6129) (Log #W2548) Eddie C Rodriguez, City of Ft Worth Fire Prevention, Earl Shepherd, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Arson/Bomb Invest. (Log #W6284) (Log #W4471) Brian Roeder, New Westminster Fire & Rescue (Log #W3062) Paul Shively, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4143) Scott A Rogers, West Metro Fire Fighters (Log #W2486) Roger J Short, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5235) John H Rogers, Green Bay Fire Fighters (Log #W2882) Robert D Shuster, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jack A Rogers, Denver Fire Dept (Log #W2910) (Log #W3979) Jansen Rolllins, Sr, Gary Fire Dept (Log #W3124) William Sinagra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Darryl Ross, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5764) (Log #W5319) Daniel M Ross, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6243) Frank P. Sinatra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Neil Rothhaupt, IAFF Local F-170 (Log #W1980) (Log #W5379) Denton Rourke, Prince Georges County MD Fire/EMS Joe Singer, Waco, TX (Log #W3004) (Log #W5894) Craig S Slatcher, City of Wilmington, Ladder #1 (Log #W6183) Paul Routon, Louisville Fire Fighters (Log #W2923) Art Smith, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W2536) Wayne E. Royster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David B. Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5002) (Log #W4460) Joe A Rubalcaba, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6018) Michael G Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth Ruckel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5208) (Log #W4137) George S Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Barry Rudy, IAFF F-221 (Log #W148) (Log #W5259) Roger Rupp, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W3417) John Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5709) Lesley Gregg Russell, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6020) Travis Smith, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #3 (Log #W5993) Edward E Ryan, III, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2984) Harold L Smith, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6027) Edwin R Salinetro, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rick Snodgrass, Lakewood Fire Dept (Log #W3419) (Log #W4914) Gerald S. Snyder, Fort Drum Fire Department Local F 105 Victor M Salis, Hawaii County Fire Dept (Log #W3345) (Log #W1962) Kenneth A Samuels, Kansas City Fire Dept (Log #W1696) John A. Snyder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary W. Samuels, Henrico Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3971) (Log #W2461) Michael Solida, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike San, Kingston Fire Dept (Log #W3133) (Log #W5806) Scott W. Sanders, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Troy D Sonichsen, Sioux City Fire Dept (Log #W3400) (Log #W4836) Thomas B. Sowinski, City of Wilmington, DE (Log #W6071) Martin W. Sanders, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Shawn Spencer, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6003) (Log #W5498) Howard T Stahl, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Chesley Sanders, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5950) (Log #W2939) Alex Santacruz, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #7 (Log #W5969) Jay Stalcup, Lawrence Fire Dept (Log #W3331) Thomas W Santaniello, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W2958) George C Stanley, Redford Twp Fire Fighter Union John Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3006) (Log #W4007) Brian Stark, Hamilton Professional FireFighters Assoc. Thomas Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W23) (Log #W4017) David Starofsky, City of Rock Island Fire Dept (Log #W3361) Donald Santoriello, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Steinbaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4662) (Log #W4790) Richard Sargent, Centerville-Osterville Fire Fighters Local 2346 Kevin P Steiner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2256) (Log #W3786) Eric Sargent, CDF Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2572) Edward J. Stengel, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert Saros, Mishawaka Fire (Log #W3055) (Log #W4848) Schuyler Sasano, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5974) David Stephenson, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Robert W Saunders, Orange County Fire Rescue (Log #W175) Local 1487 (Log #W2060) Anthony C Savino, Blue Island Professional Fire Fighters John A Stevens, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5978) (Log #W169) Eugene E. Stout, Muskegon Fire Fighters Local 370 John R Sbonik, West Allis Fire Fighters (Log #W2877) (Log #W1950) Robert H Scates, Chicago Fire Fighers Union (Log #W2471) Charles Stowell, Richmond (Log #W5906) Kirk Schalan, Meridian Professional FireFighters Association John G Strawn, Omaha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3075) (Log #W2633) John Stringert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4329) Reid Scharding, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Stuart, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4495) (Log #W5081) Edward Suchacek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Harry Scherer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4389) (Log #W5522) Paul Schermann, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W2947) Douglas P. Sudik, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Darren Schimke, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W2489) (Log #W6053) Don Schleich (Log #Washington Township Fire Department Don Suley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4714) Local 3036 (Log #W2047) James M Sullivan, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W2959) Karl Schmaelzle, Feeding Hills, MA (Log #W2949) Robert C Sullivan, Harrisburg, PA (Log #W3134) William A Schmidt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Sullivan, Nashua Fire Fighters (Log #W3428) (Log #W5166) Ronald L Summers, Hamilton Fire Fighters (Log #W2618) Dale J. Schneider, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Sunday, Melbourne Fire Dept. (Log #W6098) (Log #W4247) Peter C Svoboda, Chesterfield Professional Fire Fighters Donald H. Schroeder, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2485) (Log #W2118) David Sweetland, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Michael J Schwarz, Lafayette Fire Dept (Log #W3415) (Log #W6273) Rick Scofield, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W2466) Donald Swickline, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Harold D Scoggines, Glendale Fire Fighters (Log #W3380) (Log #W4096) Sam Scoles, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W2577) Clarence L. Swindle, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Scott, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W2454) (Log #W5637) Mark S Selke, IAFF Local F-151 (Log #W1986) William D Swinney, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6019) Robert M. Seybold, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Douglas M Switzer, Rock Island Arsenal Professional FF Assn (Log #W4764) (Log #W2452) Stanley Szymanski, Wilmington DE (Log #W5882)

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James T. Talak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Chad L Ward, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #17 (Log #W5981) (Log #W4430) Stephen Warner, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W3110) John A.E. Tanaka, Evertee Fire Department (Log #W1494) James Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters James C. Tarbert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4208) (Log #W5758) Donald Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James R. Taylor, City of Upper Arlington (Log #W2634) (Log #W4758) Otis J Taylor, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5966) Chris Wathen, Local 3217 (Log #W3401) Kevin Teague, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5964) Douglas W. Watts, Monmouth Fire Department Local 1702 Mark E Thomas, Orland Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2066) (Log #W2552) Frank T Watts, Amarillo Fire Dept (Log #W2912) Derrick Thomas, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6015) Woodrow E. Webb, Williamsburg Fire Department Gerard Thompson, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1668) (Log #W112) Raymond C Webber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J Thompson, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4944) Assn (Log #W2537) Jeffrey A Weidner, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters Kendall Thompson, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Dept FS24-C (Log #W2892) (Log #W5888) David Weisenberg, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W2946) Dean Thornberry, Brush Prairie, WA (Log #W3108) Douglas Weldorf, KPFFA (Log #W3121) Michael E Thorp, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W3373) David A Wells, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W2957) J A Tipton, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6028) August Werner, Belleville Fire Fighters (Log #W3066) James R Tobin, Newport Fire Dept (Log #W2603) Pat West, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W1686) Gordon K K Tom, Honlulu Fire Dept (Ret) (Log #W3347) Timothy Westwood, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George J. Tomasak, Luzerne County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4860) (Log #W1652) Buddy Wheatley, Covington Professional Fire Fighters David H Tompkins, Fort Worth Fire Dept Sta #12 (Log #W5948) (Log #W2924) James E. Toosan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Terence M White, Prince Georges County Fire/EMS Dept (Log #W5643) (Log #W3686) Rafael A. Torros, El Paso Assocation of Fire Fighters Harold E. White, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W130) (Log #W3750) Randall G Townley, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5975) William M. White, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scott E. Townsend, Freeport Fire Department Local 441 (Log #W5824) (Log #W2208) Alvin White, Houston Fire Dept. (Log #W5924) Mark Train, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log #W5721) Steven E. White, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Kimberly R. Trautman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W6047) (Log #W4016) Bruce Whiteside, Waterford Professional Fire Fighters Ronald A Truver, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2635) (Log #W5107) Richard Wiegand, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steven Turner, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1746) (Log #W5770) Rick Turner, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W6022) Frederick B Wier, Wellesley, MA (Log #W2950) Dennis Tyler, Muncie Fire Fighters (Log #W2934) N R Wier, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5963) Thomas C Ullom, Westerville Division of Fire (Log #W2991) Tim Wikinson, Richmond Fire Rescue Dept (Log #W2996) Ronald Ullrich, Port of Seattle Fire Dept (SEA-TAC Airport) Steve Wilding, Oak Creek Fire Fighters (Log #W2553) (Log #W2470) Gary H Wilds, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Keith Underwood, Springfield Fire Fighters Local 37 (Log #W3941) (Log #W1453) Russell Wilkerson, Little Rock Fire Fighters (Log #W3393) John Ungerman, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Robert Williams, Scranton Fire (Log #W1611) (Log #W6434) James D Williams, Amarillo Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2911) Ben J Upton, Royal Oak Fire Dept (Log #W2920) Steven D Williams, Houston PFFA (Log #W3372) David Valego, Chicopee Fire (Log #W2951) Scot A. Williams, Prince George’s County Fire/EMS Albert M Valerioti, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W2926) (Log #W6117) James Vannucchi, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W2613) Donald Wilson, Boone, IA (Log #W2560) Sabino Vasquez, FWFS Arson/Bomb (Log #W6282) Jack Wilson, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #3 (Log #W5992) Erik T. Vater, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4264) Aaron L Winslow, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas Veri, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4276) (Log #W5172) John Vietmeier, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey W Winters, Sioux Falls Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2870) (Log #W3707) Larry Wishba, Orland Fire Fighters Local 2754 (Log #W1932) Johnny Villarreal, Houston Fire Department (Log #W118) Jeffrey V Witmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey Vogts, Prince Georges Co Fire EMS Dept (Log #W6201) (Log #W4525) Gary L Vokovitch, Wauwatosa Professional Fire Fighters John W Witner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2883) (Log #W4120) Richard Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeanette Woldseth, /Rep. Bellevue Fire Fighters IAFF local 1604 (Log #W4067) (Log #W3398) Mark Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5697) Bob Wolf, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W2578) David L Wade, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W6219) Robert A Wolff, Fort Worth Fire Dept Eng #7 (Log #W5971) Greg Wagner, Brookfield Professional Fire Fighters Local 2051 Michael J Woodzicka, Appleton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2226) (Log #W2873) Jon D Wagner, Reno Fire Fighters Assoc Iaff Local 731 Thomas J Wosko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3403) (Log #W5061) William P Wagner, II, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Roger Wright, Tucson, AZ (Log #W2953) (Log #W3860) Keith W Wright, Severna Park, MD (Log #W2980) Kenneth A Wahlen, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John J Wright, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4112) (Log #W3893) David Walker, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5988) Doug Wriston, Marin FF (Log #W3111) Joe Walko, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W2530) Diane Wyman, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W3418) Jeff Wallin, Moorhead Fire Fighters (Log #W2483) Troy L Wymer, Brewnsburg Fire Territory (Log #W2938) Scott P Walsh, East Pointe Fire Dept (Log #W3365) James P. Wyzomirski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John C. Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5547) (Log #W4383) Timothy L Yakich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John P Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5202) (Log #W4854) Stanley J Walter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Yarbrough, Fort Worth Fire Dept (Log #W5987) (Log #W5132) Paul Yobbi, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4654) Gary E. Walz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5571) V Stephen Yocham, Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W142) Joseph G Ward, Chestnut Hill, MA (Log #W3079) Lester Yon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5467)

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Bob York, Wichita, TX (Log #W2491) William F. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jim Young, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W2989) (Log #W4645) Russell Young, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4412) Ronald H Bartolowits, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Daniel H Zahn, Sterling Fire Dept (Log #W3077) (Log #W4507) David A. Zapf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5361) Kenneth C Barton, Lancaster Bureau of Fire (Log #W3261) Bruce D Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Darwin Base, Oxnard City Fire (Log #W2845) (Log #W5095) Greg Bass, Bellingham, WA (Log #W3267) Michael Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary Batch, City of New London (Log #W137) (Log #W5800) Bruce Bateson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 (Log #W4876) RECOMMENDATION: Accept the entire document as Raymond T. Batico, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters proposed. (Log #W4675) SUBSTANTIATION: On behalf of the 110 members of IAFF Jeff Baugrud, Racine, WI (Log #W3256) Local 505 in Decatur, Illinois we strongly support NFPA 1710’s Bruce Baurichter, Tacoma Professional Fire Fighters benchmarks for EMS deployment, staffing and response time. (Log #W2727) Since these benchmarks are based upon scientific research on Joseph W Bayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters trauma and emergency care by the U.S. Department of Health (Log #W4807) and Human Services, National Institutes of Health, and the James Bayster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4746) American Medical Association, they apply everywhere there are John L. Beardmore, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. people in need of emergency medical care. NFPA 1710 will (Log #W6066) undoubtedly save lives in our community. Frank R Becker, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. (Log #W4558) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Brian Belitsky, Yorkton, SK (Log #W3041) Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). Paul J. Bell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4896) Mark P. Benko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters ______(Log #W3909) (Log #6) William Benson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters 1710- 17 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle (Log #W5650) SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Durbin, Decatur, IL Wayne G. Bernoska, Seminole County Professional Fire Fighters Scott B. Adams, Markham Fire Department (Log #W1757) (Log #W2143) Don Adsit, Sterling Hts Fire (Log #W6256) David J. Beyer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John M. Agnole, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5120) (Log #W4449) Thomas R. Bichler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jim Ahl, , Kern County Fire Fighters (Log #W3084) (Log #W4818) David Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5022) David Bickford, Bangor Fire Fighters Assoc Local 772 Terri Aiello, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5747) (Log #W2245) Allen R. Airesman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William T. Biggs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5511) (Log #W5602) Mark Akins, Fulton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2185) Robert Bittikifer, Detroit (Log #W6160) Richard Alarcan, Orange City Fire Fighters (Log #W2839) Grant Blake, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local 2073 James Alden Strain, P. G. Fire Dept. (Log #W6042) (Log #W2085) William M. Alexander, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ken Blanton, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W2865) (Log #W4831) Richard Blohm, Hoboken Fire Department/Rep. Tualatin Valley James H Alfred, III, Prince Georges Co. Fire Dept Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3648) (Log #W6196) Michael Boback, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Tyrone Allen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5777) (Log #W3880) Penny Allen, P.G. County MD (Log #W5859) Ronald J. Bodnar, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Sean Alliger, Howard County Fire Rescue (Log #W6166) (Log #W4609) David Allmon, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W3038) Steven W Bogard, Evansville Professional Fire Fighters Cary Altadonna, Centralia Fire Fighters (Log #W3163) (Log #W3042) Esteban S Alvarado, East Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W3170) Jose Bolanos, City of Vacaville (Log #W2711) Adrian Anderson, San Mateo County Fire Fighters (Log #W3275) Richard J. Bon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David R. Anderson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5680) (Log #W4366) Richard Bongiorni, New Rochelle Fire Department E-21 Bruce Ansell, Bellevue, WA (Log #W3279) (Log #W3448) Joseph J. Arnold, Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W2125) Michael Bonham, Sacramento CA FF (Log #W3513) John R Arnold, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Christopher R. Booz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4175) (Log #W5813) Bob Arzave, San Fransisco Fire Fighters (Log #W3032) Kenneth D. Boozer, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc local Steven D Ashe, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters 2073 (Log #W2079) (Log #W3812) Richard C Bordley, Livermore Pleasanton Fire Dept (Log David Atkin, San Ramon Valley Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3311) #W3019) Paul Atkinson, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn George M Borek, Jersey City Fire Dept (Log #W3305) (Log #W3044) John W. Bossard, Clarkesville Fire Department (Log #W2766) Robert Aubrey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Doug Bouvy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4132) (Log #W3687) Duane L Bower, Altamonte Springs Professional Fire Fighters Kelly Bach, Tualatin Valley Fire Fighters Union (Log #W1775) (Log #W3047) Jack Ballinger, IAFF Local 754 (Log #W2036) Paul Boyle, /Rep. Halifax Fire Fighters (Log #W2768) Thomas R. Baltos, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles Brace, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4294) (Log #W4034) Robert L Bragg, Charlottesville Fire Fighters (Log #W2735) Robert Balzer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Anthony C. Brahler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4043) (Log #W4318) David K. Banjanin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jean Brassard, Manchester Fire Dept (Log #W1702) (Log #W6456) Craig Braswell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W3308) Robert T. Bankert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Brennan, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5529) (Log #W5350) Richard Banske, Calumet City Fire Dept (Log #W3283) Robert F. Brett, British Columbia Professional Fire Fighters Chris Barden, Riverside City Fire Fighters (Log #W3025) Assoc (Log #W1993) Scott Barratt, Escondido Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2743) Dean Brewer, Waukesha Professional Fire Fighters Raymond L. Barringer, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3094) (Log #W3936) Bob Briare, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W3278) Mark J. Barry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3850) Walter S. Bricker , Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4081)

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Russell Bridle, Hampton Fire (Log #W2850) William Clifford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ronald L. Briles, Jr., Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6108) (Log #W4621) Eddie J. Brooks, Peoria Fire Department Station #10 Pat Clinch, Helena, MT (Log #W3202) (Log #W1597) Dan E Cochran, Coenr d’Alene Fire Dept (Log #W2781) Paul Brown, Big Spring Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. William T Cochran, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W3186) (Log #W43) Bill Coennen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3888) Glen T. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Colangelo, E-21 (Log #W3452) (Log #W3738) Bill Cole, Ottawa Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Local 162 George R. Brown, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2054) (Log #W5065) Bill Cole, Ottawa Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Local 162 Lloyd J. Browning, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2055) (Log #W5435) Charles Coleman, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W2858) Michael J. Brozovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Andrew Collins, Colorado Springs Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3654) (Log #W3204) Richard L. Brutt , Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Renee Coltz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5356) (Log #W5578) Jay C. Comfort, Bellingham, WA (Log #W2714) Thomas A Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Eugene Compton, Richmond Fire/EMS Dept. (Log #W5931) (Log #W3758) Dennis Condon, Needham Fire Fighters (Log #W3216) Joe Buckley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3934) Francis P. Conlon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mike Buehler, DFFA (Log #W3247) (Log #W4271) Kenneth J. Burg, Wilmington DE (Log #W5877) Joe Conway, Fire Fighters Local 311 (Log #W3145) Robert A Burke, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Curtis M Cook, Willoughby Fire Dept (Log #W2704) (Log #W3999) Jeffrey Cook, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W2721) Christina Burkert, Protective Services Empl. Coalition Patrick Cook, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2886) (Log #W18) David Cook, Youngstown Fire Dept (Log #W3159) William M Burkhend, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Ross Cook, Montgomery Co. #1664 (Log #W6112) (Log #W3182) Lora Cooke, Dale City, VA (Log #W2742) Richard Burns, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters James Cornyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4490) (Log #W3990) Jeff Cotner, Bloom Twp Fire Dept (Log #W3233) Michael Burrier, Salt Lake County Fire Dept (Log #W2750) John Cowan, Detroit Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3246) Thomas C Busch, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6208) Jeff Cowley, Sedgwick County Fire Fighters (Log #W2815) Rich Butcher, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2775) Edward Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3702) Donald J. Butler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert Cox, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5620) (Log #W4437) Lester H. Cragan III, Concord Professional Fire Fighters Assoc John Buzon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5053) (Log #W72) David P Byrnes, Northern Ohio Fire Fighters (Log #W3238) Darrel B Crane, San Bernardino County Professional Fire James M. Byrnes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fighters (Log #W2824) (Log #W5686) Jeffery Crawford, Dale City, VA (Log #W3268) Michael Calbick, Delta Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2752) James Crawford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael V Callavo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4966) (Log #W4867) Kevin M Crews, Sr., Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W6172) John A. Cannon, Professional Fire Fighters of Maine Local 740 Joseph Crnkovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2239) (Log #W5452) Deborah Cantwell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log Robert D Cromie, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters #W3181) (Log #W5036) James Caputo, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W66) John Cross, Covington Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3169) Hector Cardenos, IAFF 624 (Log #W2771) Mike Crouse, IAFF Local F123 (Log #W2005) Bryan Carnahan, Ottumwa, IA (Log #W2733) Dan Crow, Redlands Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2861) Henry R Carner, IAFF (Log #W6440) John D. Crowley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Carney, Plain Township Fire Fighters Local 3850 (Log #W4940) (Log #W1915) Stephen J Cummings, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy J Carney, City of South Euclid (Log #W3237) (Log #W4515) Larry Carney, , Fort Belvoir Fire Dept. (Log #W6107) Timothy S Curtis, Beloit Fire Fighters (Log #W3091) Kevin E Carnrick, Hingham Fire Dept (Log #W3189) Ronald Cushing, Manchester Fire Department Local 856 Vincent R Carroccia, Wilmington Fire Dept (Log #W2738) (Log #W2263) Keith Cash, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5179) Scott Cypher, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4336) William P Castillo, Yonkers Fire Dept (Log #W6232) Michael D’Orazi, City of Alameda Fire Department Mauro Cetra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4478) (Log #W3312) Tom Chamberlain, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3166) Robert J. Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard Chaney, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W2728) (Log #W3861) Leo Chapman, Regina, Sask (Log #W1921) Thomas C Dailey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Russell Chard, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4974) (Log #W3217) Jon Daly, Valapraiso Fire Fighters Local 1124 (Log #W2765) Roland M Chavez, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W2723) John A Daly Jr., Worcester Fire Dept (Log #W3200) Frederick Childs, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 Gene A Dangel, San Ramon Valley Fire (Log #W3309) (Log #W2817) Scott Daniel, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn Pasquale Chirumbolo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2773) (Log #W5153) Charles Daniels, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Andrew D. Chulack, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4217) (Log #W5368) Michael J Danyko, Fairview Fire Dept (Log #W6190) Robert Ciesielski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dean M DaSilva, Virginia Beach Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5662) (Log #W4630) Karl P. Cincotta, Dover Professional Fire Fighters Assoc Jeffrey Daum, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3839) (Log #W1712) Bob DAusilio, Alhambra Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2847) William Cinker, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin G Davis, City of Sioux Falls Fire Rescue (Log #W3254) (Log #W5831) Phil Dawson, Markham Professional Fire Fighters Assn George Clark, Utica, NY (Log #W2864) (Log #W2716) Roy P. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4114) Kevin Dawyskibr, Weymouth Fire Department (Log #W3219) Charles T. Clark, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John DeJulio, Olathe Fire Dept (Log #W2827) (Log #W5692) Brian Delfs, Tucson, AZ (Log #W3194) Frederick G. Cleis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Louis P Demici, Danbury Fire Dept (Log #W3150) (Log #W5042) Jeremiah J Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3821)

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Joseph C. Dengler, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Timothy J Evangelista, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4061) (Log #W5185) William E. Dengler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kelen V Evans, Atlanta Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2772) (Log #W4150) Thomas M. Fahringer, Torrance Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1138 Charles W. Denham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2215) (Log #W4804) John M. Fanelli, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward Derby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5386) (Log #W4396) Lt. Edmund Farley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joseph M. Deresh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4923) (Log #W4562) Dale Farrell, Saskatoon, SK (Log #W3048) Pat Devaney, Champaign Fire Fighters (Log #W3291) Richard Farrell, Victoria Fire Fighters Local 730 (Log #W3521) Robert E Dewith, Hasting, NE (Log #W3196) Darlene Faulconer, Montgomery County Career Fire Fighters Timothy Robert Dhayer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Assn (Log #W1692) (Log #W3696) Robert K Faurot, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3318) Mike DiBattiste, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Feeney, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 (Log #W4680) (Log #W2203) Paul Diedrich, Southgate Fire Dept (Log #W3158) Richard A. Fehl, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeffrey S. Dillon, Mesquite Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W49) (Log #W4635) Steven J Dirksen, Professional Fire Fighters of South Dakota (Log Michael S. Ferke, Scranton Fire Fighters (Log #W1647) #W3059) Kristine Ferreira, Upper Marlboro, MD (Log #W6238) Kenneth J Diulus, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James C. Ferris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5191) (Log #W3662) David Divosevic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James R Fiering, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4549) (Log #W4093) Dennis Doan, Professional Fire Fighters of Idaho (Log #W3209) Larry Fierro, LA City Fire (Log #W3137) Sheryl Dobbs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5656) Barry Fitz, Fire Fighters Local 413 (Log #W3149) Paul Dober, Lwr. Sack ville, NS (Log #W3014) Richard Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James W Dolan, Sr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5422) (Log #W5227) John T Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Stephen Domanski, Clinton Twp Fire Rescue (Log #W6250) (Log #W4843) Ken Donechie, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Palm Mark Fitzsimmons, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Bch Co (Log #W3148) (Log #W3045) Robert C Dooley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dean Fletcher, IAFF Local 1285 (Log #W2835) (Log #W4991) Chris M. Flora, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard C. Doppes, Jr., Cincinnati Fire Division E-19 (Log #W5308) (Log #W5937) Bill Floyd, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5819) Don Dorsey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4227) Richard F Foerch, Woodbridge Fire Dept (Log #W3024) James E Doucette, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W3313) Patrick T Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Charles Downer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4074) (Log #W5314) Timothy Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Drinkut, Anderson Fire Dept (Log #W3174) (Log #W5296) Thomas P Drudy, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John T. Foley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5410) (Log #W4036) Pasquale Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Drury, Merrill Fire Fighters (Log #W3087) (Log #W4324) Raymond H Ducover, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael G. Fontana, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5024) (Log #W4372) Mike Duddy, Coquitlam Fire Rescue (Log #W152) James R. Ford, Dearborn Fire Department (Log #W60) Thomas M Duffola, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters James E. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3954) (Log #W5405) Patrick Duffy, Oak Forest Fire Fighters Union (Log #W3230) Thomas F. Ford, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Daniel Dugan, DC Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1675) (Log #W5459) Tim Duncan, Clinton Twp Fire Dept (Log #W6262) Don Forrest, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W3139) Terry Dunne, Peoria Fire Department (Log #W1603) James A Fossos, Seattle Fire Dept (Log #W3296) Mike Durkin, Youngstown Fire (Log #W3156) Billy A Foster, Memphis Fire Dept (Log #W3212) Steve A Durkit, Coyahoga Falls Fire Dept (Log #W3176) Gerald P Fox, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Barry Dutton, Bismark Fire Department Local 2468 (Log #W3848) (Log #W2233) Paul E Fredrica, Racine, WI (Log #W2859) Thomas J. Dutton, P.G. County MD (Log #W5853) Greg Frieders, Aurora Fire Fighters (Log #W3056) Thomas A Early, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Carl Fritz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4536) (Log #W4775) Guy Fujio, Honolulu Fire Dept (Log #W3321) Carl L Eastham, Huntington Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log Mark Fuller, North Kansas Fire Fighters (Log #W2745) #W3195) Richard T Furlong, Harvey Fire Dept (Log #W3284) Gary W. Edge, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W101) Thomas M. Gabriel, Miami Assocation of Fire Fighters local 587 Patrick Eggleston, Binghamton, NY (Log #W1769) (Log #W1945) John Eisel, Violet Twp Fire Dept (Log #W3288) Mike Gabriel, Dubuque Fire Fighters (Log #W2820) Francis Elder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5554) Bradley P Gaiser, Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc of Scarsdale Daniel A. Elias, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3273) (Log #W5443) James T Galvin, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W3140) John M Elliott, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Thomas Ganiere, /Rep. Ottawa Fire Fighters Local 523 (Log #W3730) (Log #W2113) James M. Ellis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tom Gardner, Sacramento, CA (Log #W3026) (Log #W5475) John R. Gardner, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Oscar M Elmasian, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W2718) (Log #W4407) Paul Elmendorf, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W3271) Roger Garver, Eugene, OR (Log #W3201) Frank Emiliano, Hollywood Professional Fire Fighters Mark P Garvey, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3218) (Log #W3779) Dave Engler, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W3222) Mark Gasiorowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas English, San Bernandino City Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5428) Assn (Log #W3021) Phillip Gauer, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W2754) Lisa Epps, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4484) Gerald P Gay, Sanford Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W1737) Dennis Eulberg, North Metro Professional Fire Fighters Melvin S Gay, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5266) (Log #W2862) Mark Gehri, City of Bedford Hts Fire Dept (Log #W3236) Stan George, Portland Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2776)

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Brian George, London Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3244) Paul W Helms, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jerome Ghafoor, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4957) (Log #W5626) Michael Hemphill, Bogalusa Fire Fighters (Log #W3146) David E. Gibson, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc Local 58 Ian R Henis, Vancouver Fire & Rescue Service (Log #W3018) (Log #W2073) Joe Henning, Fire Fighters Local 63 (Log #W3153) John Gilleran, IAFF Local 3177 (Log #W2131) Sheldon J. Henry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David W Gillotte, LA County Fire Fighters Local 1014 (Log #W5849) (Log #W2751) Allen Henson, Littleton Fire Fighters Local 2086 (Log #W2221) Joseph J. Giorgianni, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Thomas Herak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4312) (Log #W4254) Michael Glaser, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters James A. Herbst, Great Lakes Fire Department Local F37 (Log #W4103) (Log #W1927) Alfred Q. Glaze, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald Heritage, Joplin, MO (Log #W3280) (Log #W4734) Aaron Herschman, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Co. 49 Chuck Glines, Vondenberg Fire, Local F116 (Log #W1975) (Log #W6136) Jerome J Gnipp, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Mark Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4419) (Log #W3693) Al Heslet, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5302) Henry J Goliat, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary W. Hickey, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5290) (Log #W5704) Greg Gollner, Greenfield, Wi (Log #W3088) Fred Higgins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4467) John A. Gombita, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David L. Higgs, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5493) (Log #W4776) Antonio Gomes, Easton Fire Dept (Log #W1800) Damon T. HIll, Sr., PGH Professional Fire Fighters/Rep. Freddie Gonzales, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6489) (Log #W5076) Barry Hilling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4895) Doug A. Goodman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Nick Hillner, Whichita Falls, TX (Log #W2832) (Log #W5138) Larry Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4001) William Michael Gorham, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Himber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4904) (Log #W5248) Rick Hinchcliffe, Greeley-Union Coloney Fire Rescue Auth Michael Gorizre, Associated Fire Fighters Matteson (Log #W3037) (Log #W3301) Gerald Hirschfeld, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jeff Gottbreht, Lincoln Fire Dept (Log #W3206) (Log #W3716) John P. Gourley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Brian K Hishinuma, LA City Fire Dept (Log #W3142) (Log #W4300) Ron Hittle, Stockton Fire Department (Log #W2191) Richard Greene, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Hoffmann, Oakland Fire Dept (Log #W3302) (Log #W3800) Paul Hogan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5674) David Greenwood, Birmingham Fire Dept (Log #W3285) David Hogelin, Columbus Fire Dept (Log #W3207) David G Gregorich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Hogrebe, Allen Park Fire Dept (Log #W3232) (Log #W4827) Toussaint M Holland, Fairfax County (Log #W6154) Vincent Griffin, Oaklawn, IL (Log #W1903) William G Hollander, Kansas City KS Fire Dept (Log #W3122) Ryan M. Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jim Holmes, London Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W4592) (Log #W2717) Sean Griffin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5741) Paul R Holmquist, Yarmouth Permanent Fire Fighters Robert W Griffiths, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2731) (Log #W4608) Gary Homberg, Kankakee Fire Fighters Local 653 (Log #W2790) Sandra Grubb, PGFD (Log #W6178) Rick Honsberger, Thorold Professional Fire Fighters Donald Gruckert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1812) (Log #W5837) Eric V Hopp, Elgin, IL (Log #W3155) Gerald E. Grunert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters E. J. Horney, Yonkers, NY (Log #W1606) (Log #W4615) Leo Horton, S Lake Tahoe, CA (Log #W3017) Troy Haase, Fondulac Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3083) Timothy R. Hottenfeller, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ryan T. Haid, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5566) (Log #W5487) Walter R. Haig, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Dennis Howard, City of Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W158) (Log #W4230) William A Howe, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W3281) Rieck Hairston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Paul Hoy, Torrance Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3063) (Log #W3829) Gerry Huger, /Rep. Sask. Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Robert Hall, Vancouver Fire & Rescue local 18 (Log #W2101) (Log #W1763) B R Hall, Nashville Fire Fighters (Log #W2739) Bobby G. Humphryes, Birmingham Fire Fighters Assoc. Local Mark S Hall, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W3214) 117 (Log #W1969) Dale A. Hall, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5505) John D. Hunt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4992) John Halsey, CSPFFA (Log #W2737) Guy D. Hunter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert M Halston, Egelston Professional Fire Fighters Union (Log #W5399) 3901 (Log #W1957) Tom Huston, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4378) Keith Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Brad Hutchings, North Hampton Fire & Rescue (Log #W1785) (Log #W2161) Joseph C. Imburgia, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Ian Hamilton, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5789) (Log #W3049) Stanley W. Ingle, Knoxville Fire Fighters Assoc. (Log #W2345) Thomas Hanify, Indianapolis Fire Fighter Union (Log #W3177) Dennis E. Isaac, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 John F. Hanley, Local 798 (Log #W1790) (Log #W2042) Lance Hanson, Eau Claire Fire Fighters (Log #W3086) Russell Jack, Everett Fire Department (Log #W1468) Eugene A. Harnish, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Matt Jackson, JCFFA Local 3309 (Log #W207) (Log #W3949) Shawn R Jackson, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W2700) Larry J Hartley, Marion City Fire Dept (Log #W2759) Brian K. Jackson, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Hassinger, Bucyrus Fire Fighters (Log #W3168) (Log #W3772) Michael P Hawkins, Shaker Hts Fire Dept (Log #W2755) Carl Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4054) Charles C Hawkins, Jr, Seattle Fire Fighters Union (Log #W3255) Kevin Jackson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Tim Healy, City of Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W3093) (Log #W4244) Alan Hefter, West Bend Fire Fighters (Log #W3057) Philip Jandrokovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Steve Heim, Lincoln Park Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W3157) (Log #W4156) Rod Heivilir, Shoreline Fire Fighters (Log #W3210) Randy T Jankowski, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David L. Helbling, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3803) (Log #W4348) Joseph J Janosko, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4878)

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Roger C Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jay M. Kunkel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5560) (Log #W4162) Michael Kurtsinger, Louisville Professional Fire Fighters Vince Javornick, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3240) (Log #W5089) Elizabeth C Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Ralph Jedd, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4084) (Log #W3743) Richard Jock, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4537) David H Kurz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4579) James Johnson, IAFF Local F-88 (Log #W182) Thomas R La montagne, Portsmouth Fire Dept (Log #W1707) Randy Johnson, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W1722) John P Labishak, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Robert W. Johnson, Harwich Fire Department Local 2124 (Log #W3912) (Log #W2030) David Lachenauer, Watertown Fire Fighters (Log #W3303) Jeff Johnson, Oshkosh Fire Dept (Log #W2813) Ed Lacombe, New Bedford MA (Log #W5865) Jay Johnson, San Mateo County FF (Log #W3325) David Lang, Professional Fire Fighters of Hampton Shana Johnson, Rescus 14 Cincinnati Fire Division (Log #W2840) (Log #W5943) Leonard K. Lang, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters J E Jones, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3051) (Log #W5795) Fletcher Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George Lange, City of Strongsville (Log #W2706) (Log #W4548) Brian F Lange, Dekalb Fire Fighters (Log #W3147) David W. Jones, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William Laraia, Quincy Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3257) (Log #W5843) Thomas W Larbig, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Timothy J. Joyce, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4235) (Log #W5535) John Latta, OCPFA Local 3631 (Log #W2841) William F. Juergen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William J. Lawrence, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5517) (Log #W4455) Randall Jute, Lake Worth, FL (Log #W3263) Todd J Lealue, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn Gregg P Kadow, Manitowoc Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2884) (Log #W3095) Fred LeBlanc, Kingston Professional Fire Fighters Assn Fred P Kaeberlein, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W2837) (Log #W2757) Emily Kane, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters (Log #W3266) James P Lee, Whitpain Fire Dept (Log #W2740) Tom Karnas, Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Assn Robert H Lee, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3323) (Log #W3050) Daniel Leffler, University Hts Fire Dept (Log #W2705) John Kastran, Farmington Hills Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3043) Al Leier, Prince George Fire Fighters Union (Log #W3046) William G Kauahikaua, Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3324) Jordan M Lemieux, Holyoke Fire Dept (Log #W3205) Richard Kazzi, Fairfield Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3297) Charles J Lenz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Greg Keefe, Newark Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3184) (Log #W4599) Glenn Keiffer, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters W James Leve, Portage Fire Fighters (Log #W3185) (Log #W3769) Mark T. Lewandowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Francis D Kelly, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W3034) (Log #W4126) Michael A Kelly, Livonia Fire Fighters (Log #W3054) David J. Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael T. Kelly, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3761) (Log #W4521) Charles L Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeff Kemp, Richmond Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2715) (Log #W4168) Francis Kennedy Jr., Hawaii Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3225) Varnell Lewis, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5668) Robert J. Kerestes, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters William R Ley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4568) (Log #W5103) Mark Liberator, Canton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3160) Timothy Kernan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Bruce Linner, BC-5 Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5144) (Log #W4668) Joe Kerr, Orange County Fire Authority (Log #W2857) Tim Littlefield, Algonquin Lake In The Hill Fire Fighters Union Maureen Kerrigan, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1682) (Log #W4027) Bob Livingston, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council Robert E Kiefer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1780) (Log #W4692) Joe Locnikar, Fargo Fire (Log #W3028) Jeffrey M Kihune, Maui Fire Dept (Log #W3320) Matt Loewen, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3096) Patrick Kilbane, Janesville Fire Fighters (Log #W2726) Paul Lombardo, Lahabra Fire Fighters (Log #W3022) Joseph J. Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin R. Long, Mashpee Fire Fighters Local 2519 (Log #W2251) (Log #W4402) Steve Long, KCK Fire Dept (Log #W2816) David Kimak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5011) Larry G Long, Stockton Fire Dept (Log #W2860) James Kinard, Baltimore County Fire Fighters Assn Robert Losket, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5003) (Log #W3192) Robert F Lostetter, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael T. King, Fairfax County (Log #W6148) (Log #W5161) Stephen J Kinneavy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tom Lovell, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W2830) (Log #W4698) Craig W Lowe, City of Santa Rosa Fire Dept (Log #W3307) James M. Kirby, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gregory A Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5596) (Log #W4589) Stephen C. Klein, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Richard E Lowman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4342) (Log #W5127) Robert Knerr, Navsta Ingleside Fire Dept (Log #W3287) Stephen Ludmann, Blue Ash Fire Fighters (Log #W3036) Kevin Knight, Aurora Fire Dept (Log #W2846) Mark D. Lundy, City of Worthington Division of Fire & EMS (Log Charles Koelker, Cumberland, MD (Log #W2730) #W2173) Paul C. Konarowski, Oshawa FireFighters Assocation Robert G Luther, Madison Fire Fighters (Log #W3065) (Log #W55) James L Luttrell, Sacramento Area Fire Fighters (Log #W2909) Gerlad Kosaki, Hawaii Fire Department (Log #W3322) Dennis Lyman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John F. Kramer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4628) (Log #W5393) Paul Lyons, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4211) John J Kreger, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5278) Joseph F. Machovec, Baltimore City Fire Officers Assoc Ronald Kressman, Greenburgh Uniformed Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W1588) (Log #W3270) Richard Macklin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Norman Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5416) (Log #W3802) J Macleod, Van Fire & Rescue (Log #W3039) Alan Kroniser, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5716) Robert G. MacMaster, Augusta Uniformed Fire Fighters Dennis Kruger, San Francisco Fire Fighters (Log #W3033) Association (Log #W2024) Brian J. Krull, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5608) Joseph Magliocca, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Edward D. Kubicki, /Rep. Highland Park Fire Department (Log #W5272) (Log #W3440) Michael F Magnan, Woonsocket Fire Dept (Log #W1795)

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Elmer Mahaffy, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. (Log #W6060) Barry Mesley, Miami Township Fire & EMS (Log #W3171) Roger J Maher, III, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald Messier, Somersworth, NH (Log #W2770) (Log #W4795) Don Mette, Sacramento Metro Fire Dist (Log #W3314) Chris Mahon, Ventura Cty Fire Dept (Log #W2848) Rick Michael, West Chicago, IL (Log #W2854) Thomas Makar, Wilkes-Barre Fire Fighters (Log #W2734) Robert W. Michel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David Manfredo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5614) (Log #W4288) James H Miller, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W2777) Kelly Mannion, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeffrey A Miller, Town of Beloit Fire Dept (Log #W3092) (Log #W3923) Chris Miller, Dehli Township Fire Dept (Log #W3172) Brian K Manship, Selma, IN (Log #W3173) Michael R. Milligan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kevin Manson, Jr., West Hartford Fire Dept. (Log #W5919) (Log #W5326) Brian Markewinski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Reuben M. Millsaps, Dallas Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W95) (Log #W4425) Michael E Minton, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters Greg B Markley, Kent Fire Fighters (Log #W1732) (Log #W3292) John A Marks, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters IAFF Local 1 William Mirt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5735) (Log #W2818) John Misencik, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael J. Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4740) (Log #W3668) Erwin Miske, City of Rocky River (Log #W3234) William Marks, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters W. John Mitchell, Richmond Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3235) (Log #W3875) Kenneth Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Art Marshall, Santa Clara County Fire Fighters (Log #W3298) (Log #W4199) Wiliam Martin, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Christopher Mitchell, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4885) (Log #W5481) Elmer Martinez, Pocatello Fire Fighters (Log #W2828) Leroy Mobley, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Patrick Martyn, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W5632) (Log #W2769) Thomas J. Moffitt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Art Martynuska, Johnstown Fire Fighters (Log #W3315) (Log #W4687) Keith O Mary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5284) Paul Molkenbuhr, Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Dept Thomas M Marzheuser, Cincinnati Fire Dept (Log #W2708) (Log #W2756) Mike Massone, San Digo Federal Fire Fighters (Log #W83) Jay Montenbrey, IAFF Local 2915 (Log #W2018) Richard V. Mastandrea, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Montoya, Los Angeles County Fire Fighters (Log #W3020) (Log #W4783) Gregory M Mooney, Massport Fire Fighters (Log #W2736) Mark A. Mastison, Evansville Fire Department Local 357 Rick Moore, Fire Fighters Association Local 36/Rep. District of (Log #W1909) Columbia Fire Fighters (Log #W1460) Jim Matthews, Engine #2 West Hartford CT (Log #W5913) Brian Moore, Vacaville Fire Fighters (Log #W2834) Joe Matuszewski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Travis O. Moore, San Antonio Fire Dept. (Log #W5901) (Log #W4952) Kevin R Morgan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frederick H. Mays, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5242) (Log #W5783) Chris Morlan, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6214) William F Mazon, III, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeff Morris, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5215) (Log #W3870) Jeffrey A Morrow, Taylor Professional Fire Fighters Lawrence Mazza, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3053) (Log #W5338) Donald R. Moses, McDonough, GA (Log #W2149) Daniel McCarthy, Los Angeles City Fire Department Leo Mostyn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4282) (Log #W3144) Michael J. Mullen, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Terrence L McCarthy, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4306) (Log #W4981) Adrian Munday, Fairfax, VA (Log #W3215) Mark McCormick, Santa Rosa Fire Fighters (Log #W3269) Victor D Muto, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Roy McDonald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5118) (Log #W3676) Phillip Myers, Park Forest Fire Fighers Assoc (Log #W2179) Timothy T McDonnell, Indianapolis Metropolitan Professional Lawrence A Naddy, Professional Fire Fighters/Paramedics of Fire Fighters (Log #W3178) Palm Bch Co (Log #W3154) John McDonough, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tom Neal, St. Cloud Fire Dept (Log #W2732) (Log #W5233) Sean P. Neary, Detoroit Fire Department (Log #W37) David M. McEndoo, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James Nedwidek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4909) (Log #W3961) John A McGee, Manchester PFF (Log #W2722) Fernando Negrete, Anaheim Fire Department Local 2899 R L McGhee, IAFF Local 176 (Log #W1742) (Log #W2197) Richard L. McGrail, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael G. Neibauer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5332) (Log #W4354) David McIntyre, Clinton Township Fire Department Local 1381 Douglas H Neil, Great Falls Fire/Rescue (Log #W3203) (Log #W2275) Dan A Neill, City of Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W2822) Harry C McIntyre, Greensboro, NC (Log #W2725) Edward A Nemeth, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W3241) Dennis McKnight, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Tony Neratini, Vancouver Fire Rescue Services (Log #W3016) (Log #W4728) Jeff Nester, Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Assn J. David McLean, Dover Fire Officers (Log #W2779) (Log #W2712) Edgar W McLean, Burlington Fire Dept (Log #W3259) Donald E. Newham, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael McMahon, Hampton, NH (Log #W3290) (Log #W5155) Mike McManus, Binghamton, NY (Log #W3008) Les Newman, Thunder Bay Professional Fire Fighters Assn Darren M McNeil, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3282) (Log #W5254) Mike Nichols, Waco Professional Fire fighters (Log #W2710) Pat McOsker, UFLA C (Log #W3143) Chris J Nickoloff, South Metro Professional Fire Fighters Mike McOsker, United Fire Fighters of Los Angeles (Log #W3162) (Log #W3300) Thomas J. Niemiec, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Larry J. McPhail, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log #W4721) (Log #W5729) John Niemiec, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters William J McQuillen, Portsmouth Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W6268) (Log #W2849) Scott Nishisaka, Burbank Fire Fighters (Log #W3252) James W Meinzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael H. Nolf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4933) (Log #W4443) Alan Menillo, Fainfield Fire Fighters (Log #W3262) Stephen E Norris, LA City Fire (Log #W3138) Joe Meringer, Oshawa Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3421) Ronald F. Novak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Joe Merritt, Fairfax Fire Rescue FS 18 (Log #W6078) (Log #W3921)

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Hector Nunez, Tyler Fire Department/Rep. Tyler Professional Michael Pudup, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W107) (Log #W4578) David O’Leary, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Luis Puentes, East Moline, IL (Log #W3249) (Log #W5753) Kevin Quinn, Elk Grove Professional Fire Fighters Assn Kevin M O’Meara, Calif Dept of Forestry & Fire Protection (Log #W3286) (Log #W3027) Michael Quinn, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Perry Oldenburg, Boise Fire Fighters (Log #W3208) (Log #W4712) Walter T. Oldham, Memphis Fire Department local 1784 David A Rabb, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W1999) (Log #W4187) Charles Oleary, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Frank P Raffa, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3227) (Log #W4181) Ray Rahne, Colorado Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3226) Donald R Olguin, Boulder Fire Fighters (Log #W3294) Robert A. Rajnovic, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gordon Olson, Federal Way Fire Fighters (Log #W1727) (Log #W5344) Leonard Orlando, Green Bay Fire Department Local 141 David A. Raleigh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2269) (Log #W4704) James Orton, Vaughan Fire Fighters Local 1595 (Log #W2502) Rob Rankin, Local 1053 (Log #W2327) Richard Osborn, Glenside Fire Protection Dist (Log #W3251) Norman D. Rathke, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Charles A. Ossler, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5542) (Log #W3728) Jeffrey P Rawson, Washington, MA (Log #W2702) Mark Ouellette, Professional Fire Fighters of New Hamphsire Mark D. Rectenwald, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2333) (Log #W4969) Raymond Palczynski, D.A.P.F.F (Log #W3211) Robert Redente, City of East Haven Local 1205 (Log #W2011) Donald J. Palmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert Redente, City of East Haven Local 1205 (Log #W2012) (Log #W4360) Michael L Reed, Akron Fire Dept (Log #W2753) Richard T Paltaut, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W3272) Brian J Reed, Anchorage Fire Dept (Log #W3213) David J Panchura, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Mark Reed, St. Helens Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3968) (Log #W3221) Greg Parker, San Bernandino City Fire Fighters (Log #W3293) Michael Reeves, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters Bill Parlow, Brockton Fire Fighters (Log #W3228) (Log #W3183) Rick Patterson, Prince George’s County (Log #W6124) Jim Reidy, San Antonio Professional Fire Fighters Assn Richard H Pattison, Houston Professional Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W2761) (Log #W1717) Thomas A. Reinheimer, Jr, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Rickie Paul, Norwood Fire Dept (Log #W3289) (Log #W5031) Lou Paulson, United PFF of Contra Costa County (Log #W3316) Larry A Rekasie, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Christopher M Pedrotty, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log (Log #W4053) #W5197) John Remillard, Norristown, PA (Log #W2842) Jeffry M. Pegg, Local 344 (Log #W6142) Steven W Repp, IAFF Local 1773 (Log #W2780) Michael Peltz, Springfield Missouri Fire FIghters (Log #W3265) Mark Rhame, Orange Conty Fire Rescue (Log #W1806) Greg Perdue, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5070) Mike Rhyner, Tucson Fire Fighter (Log #W2747) James M Perkins, City of Bradford (Log #W2819) Brian K Rice, Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District Lawrence Perkins, Seabrook Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3029) (Log #W2833) Michael Richards, Poquonnock Bridge Professional Fire Fighters Rard Perkins, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4259) Assn (Log #W2707) James Perrott, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5221) Timothy Richardson, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters Frank R. Perry, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2855) (Log #W5374) Cecil D Ridge, Modesto Fire Fighters (Log #W3299) Robert F Pesa, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4817) Jon Riley, Vallejo Fire Dept (Log #W3310) William Peterson, Coon Rapids Fire Dept (Log #W3306) Clifton Rineheart, Frederick County DFRS (Log #W6226) Christopher B Petroff, Albuquerque Area Fire Fighters Edward Riveros, United Fire Fighters of LA City (Log #W3141) (Log #W2774) Keith Roach, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4752) Thomas Petronio, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Scotty Roberts, Henrico Co Fire (Log #W2792) (Log #W4929) Robert L Robertson, DeKalb County Professional Fire Fighters Donald W Petschke, Buffalo Fire Dept (Log #W3424) (Log #W2155) Billy C. Petty, Mesquite FireFighters Assoc (Log #W12) James Robinson, Clayton County Professional Fire Fighters Mike Pfeiffer, Whitby Professional Fire Fighters Assocation (Log #W125) (Log #W164) John T Robinson, Newport Professional Fire Fighters Union Ron Phillips, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Local 1487 (Log #W2758) (Log #W2167) Lester A Robinson, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Dennis Phillips, Topeka Fire Dept (Log #W2821) (Log #W4193) Frank Pierce, Shelby Twp Fire Dept (Log #W3239) Thomas J. Robinson, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Gregory Pietras, Chicopee Fire Fighters (Log #W3223) (Log #W6130) Larry Pikora, Hanover Park Professional Fire Fighters Brian Roeder, New Westminster Fire & Rescue (Log #W3248) (Log #W3253) Scott A Rogers, West Metro Fire Fighters (Log #W2826) John A. Piotrowski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John H Rogers, Green Bay Fire Fighters (Log #W3089) (Log #W3984) Jack A. Rogers, Dever Fire Department (Log #W3422) Joseph Piro, Easton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3264) Darryl Ross, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5765) Jason Plogmann, Cincinnati Fire Division - D3 (Log #W6036) Daniel M Ross, Warren Fire Dept (Log #W6244) Jerry Pobicki, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3790) Neil Rothhaupt, IAFF Local F-170 (Log #W1981) H. John Powell, Haverhill Fire Fighters (Log #W2838) Denton Rourke, Prince Georges County MD Fire/EMS James L Powers, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5895) (Log #W3833) Paul Routon, Louisville Fire Fighters (Log #W3164) Monte W. Prasin, Decatur, IL (Log #W89) Wayne E. Royster, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Douglas J. Praskovich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5004) (Log #W5584) Kenneth Ruckel, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kenneth Pravetz, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W2784) (Log #W4138) Daniel H Preston, Ventura County Professional Fire Fighters Assn Barry Rudy, IAFF F-221 (Log #W149) (Log #W3023) Roger Rupp, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W2762) Damon Price, Fairfax Co. Fire & Rescue (Log #W5871) Edward E Ryan, III, Worcester Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3224) Christopher D. Prickett, Dekalb Professional Fire Fighters local Edwin R Salinetro, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters 1492 (Log #W1939) (Log #W4915) Tommy K. Propst, Orange County Fire & Rescue, Local 2057 Victor M Salis, Hawaii County Fire Dept (Log #W3317) (Log #W2137) Kenneth A Samuels, Kansas City Fire Dept (Log #W1697)

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Gary W. Samuels, Henrico Professional Fire Fighters Assn Troy D Sonichsen, Sioux City Fire Dept (Log #W2748) (Log #W2814) Thomas B. Sowinski, City of Wilmington, DE (Log #W6072) Scott W. Sanders, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Howard T Stahl, Indianapolis Metropolitan Fire Fighters (Log #W4837) (Log #W3180) Martin W. Sanders, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jay Stalcup, Lawrence Fire Dept (Log #W3304) (Log #W5499) George C Stanley, Redford Twp Fire Fighter Union Thomas W Santaniello, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W3198) (Log #W3243) John Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Brian Stark, Hamilton Professional FireFighters Assoc. (Log #W4009) (Log #W24) Thomas Santoriello, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters David Starofsky, City of Rock Island Fire Dept (Log #W2709) (Log #W4019) Michael Steinbaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Donald Santoriello, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4792) (Log #W4663) Kevin P Steiner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Richard Sargent, Centerville-Osterville Fire Fighters Local 2346 (Log #W3788) (Log #W2257) Edward J. Stengel, Sr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Eric Sargent, CDF Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2863) (Log #W4849) Robert Saros, Mishawaka Fire (Log #W3245) David Stephenson, Nepean Professional Fire Fighters Assoc. Robert W Saunders, Orange County Fire Rescue (Log #W176) Local 1487 (Log #W2061) Anthony C Savino, Blue Island Professional Fire Fighters Eugene E. Stout, Muskegon Fire Fighters Local 370 (Log #W170) (Log #W1951) John R Sbonik, West Allis Fire Fighters (Log #W3085) Charles Stowell, Richmond (Log #W5907) Robert H Scates, Chicago Fire Fighers Union (Log #W2783) John G Strawn, Omaha Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3258) Kirk A. Schalau, Meridian Professional FF Assn (Log #W2767) John Stringert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4330) Reid Scharding, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Mark Stuart, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4496) (Log #W5083) Edward Suchacek, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Harry Scherer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4390) (Log #W5523) Paul Schermann, Pittsburgh Fire Fighters (Log #W3188) Douglas P. Sudik, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. Darren Schimke, Grand Forks Fire Fighters (Log #W2829) (Log #W6054) Don Schleich, Washington Township Fire Department Local 3036 Don Suley, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4715) (Log #W2048) James M Sullivan, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W3199) Karl Schmaelzle, Feeding Hills, MA (Log #W3190) Robert C Sullivan, Harrisburg, PA (Log #W3295) William A Schmidt, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael Sullivan, Nashua Fire Fighters (Log #W3429) (Log #W5167) Ronald L Summers, Hamilton Fire Fighters (Log #W3040) Dale J. Schneider, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Peter C Svoboda, Chesterfield Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4249) (Log #W2825) Vince Schramm, St. Louis Co Fire Fighters (Log #W3031) David Sweetland, Fairfax Co Professional Fire Fighters Donald H. Schroeder, Beaumont Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W6274) (Log #W2119) Donald Swickline, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Michael J Schwarz, Lafayette Fire Dept (Log #W2760) (Log #W4097) Thomas W Schweitzer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Clarence L. Swindle, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5047) (Log #W5638) Rick Scofield, IAFF Local 11 (Log #W2778) Stanley Szymanski, Wilmington DE (Log #W5883) Harold D Scoggines, Glendale Fire Fighters (Log #W2729) James T. Talak, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Sam Scoles, Kern County Fire Fighters Inc. (Log #W2875) (Log #W4431) Charles Scott, East Providence Fire Dept (Log #W2703) John A.E. Tanaka, Evertee Fire Department (Log #W1496) Mark S Selke, IAFF Local F-151 (Log #W1987) James C. Tarbert, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Robert M. Seybold, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5759) (Log #W4766) James R. Taylor, City of Upper Arlington (Log #W33) John L. Sharpe, Pittsburgh Professional John F. Tekippe, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1657) (Log #W3900) Mark E Thomas, Orland Professional Fire Fighters Patrick E. Shaw, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2852) (Log #W5590) Steve Thomas, Surrey, BC (Log #W6281) Dennis Shearn, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters Gerard Thompson, Irving Professional Fire Fighters Assoc (Log #W2851) (Log #W113) Earl Shepherd, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters David J Thompson, Orange County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4472) Assn (Log #W2844) Paul Shively, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4144) Kendall Thompson, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue Dept FS24-C Roger J Short, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5236) (Log #W5889) Robert D Shuster, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Dean Thornberry, Brush Prairie, WA (Log #W3274) (Log #W3981) Michael E Thorp, Houston Fire Dept (Log #W2720) William Sinagra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters James R Tobin, Newport Fire Dept (Log #W3030) (Log #W5320) Gordon K K Tom, Honlulu Fire Dept (Ret) (Log #W3319) Frank P. Sinatra, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters George J. Tomasak, Luzerne County Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W5380) (Log #W1653) Joe Singer, Waco, TX (Log #W3242) James E. Toosan, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Craig S Slatcher, City of Wilmington, Ladder #1 (Log #W6184) (Log #W5644) Art Smith, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W2843) Rafael A. Torros, El Paso Assocation of Fire Fighters David B. Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W131) (Log #W4461) Scott E. Townsend, Freeport Fire Department Local 441 Michael G Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2209) (Log #W5209) Mark Train, Mississauga Fire Fighters Association (Log #W5722) George S Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Kimberly R. Trautman, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5260) (Log #W4018) John Smith, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5710) Alan R. Trotman, Local 792 (Log #W2744) Douglas M Smutzer, Rock Island Arsenal Professional Fire Ronald A Truver, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Fighters Assn (Log #W2701) (Log #W5108) Rick Snodgrass, Lakewood Fire Dept (Log #W2764) Steven Turner, Birmingham Fire Fighter Assn (Log #W1747) Gerald S. Snyder, Fort Drum Fire Department Local F 105 Dennis Tyler, Muncie Fire Fighters (Log #W3175) (Log #W1963) Thomas C. Ullom, Westerville Division of Fire Local 3480 John A. Snyder, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3231) (Log #W3972) Ronald Ullrice, Port of Seattle Fire Dept (SEA-TAC Airport) Michael Solida, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W2782) (Log #W5807)

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Keith Underwood, Springfield Fire Fighters Local 37 Russell Wilkerson, Little Rock Fire Fighters (Log #W2741) (Log #W1454) Robert Williams, Scranton Fire (Log #W1612) John Ungerman, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters John M. Williams, Des Moines Fire Department (Log #W1663) (Log #W6435) Steven D Williams, Houston PFFA (Log #W2719) Ben J Upton, Royal Oak Fire Dept (Log #W3161) James D Williams, Amarillo Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3151) David Valego, Chicopee Fire (Log #W3191) Scot A. Williams, Prince George’s County Fire/EMS Albert M Valerioti, Waterbury Fire Dept (Log #W3167) (Log #W6118) James Vannlicchi, San Fransisco FireFighters (Log #W3035) Donald Wilson, Boone, IA (Log #W2856) Erik T. Vater, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4265) Aaron L Winslow, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters John Vietmeier, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5173) (Log #W3709) Jeffrey W Winters, Sioux Falls Fire Fighters Assn (Log #W3061) Johnny Villarreal, Houston Fire Department (Log #W119) Larry Wishba, Orland Fire Fighters Local 2754 (Log #W1933) Jeffrey Vogts, Prince Georges Co Fire EMS Dept (Log #W6202) Jeffrey V Witmer, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary L Vokovitch, Wauwatosa Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W4526) (Log #W3090) John W Witner, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Richard Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4122) (Log #W4068) Jeanette Woldseth, /Rep. Bellevue Fire Fighters IAFF local 1604 Mark Vrane, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5698) (Log #W2746) David L Wade, Virginia Beach Fire Dept (Log #W6220) Bob Wolf, CDF Fire Fighters (Log #W2878) Greg Wagner, Brookfield Professional Fire Fighters Local 2051 Michael J Woodzicka, Appleton Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W2227) (Log #W3067) William P Wagner, II, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Thomas J Wosko, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3862) (Log #W5062) Kenneth A Wahlen, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Roger Wright, Tucson, AZ (Log #W3193) (Log #W4113) Keith W Wright, Severna Park, MD (Log #W3220) Joe Walko, Erie Fire Fighters (Log #W2836) John J Wright, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Jeff Wallin, Moorhead Fire Fighters (Log #W2823) (Log #W3894) Scott P Walsh, East Pointe Fire Dept (Log #W2713) Doug Wriston, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W3277) John C. Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Diane Wyman, Fremont Fire Fighters (Log #W2763) (Log #W4384) Troy L Wymer, Brewnsburg Fire Territory (Log #W3179) John P Walsh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5203) James P. Wyzomirski, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Stanley J Walter, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5548) (Log #W5134) Timothy L Yakich, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Gary E. Walz, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5572) (Log #W4855) Joseph G Ward, Chestnut Hill, MA (Log #W3260) Paul Yobbi, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4655) Stephen Warner, Marin Fire Fighters (Log #W3276) V Stephen Yocham, Lubbock Fire Dept (Log #W143) James Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters Lester Yon, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5469) (Log #W4210) Bob York, Wichita, TX (Log #W2831) Donald Washabaugh, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Jim Young, Weymouth Fire Dept (Log #W3229) (Log #W4759) Russell Young, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W4413) Chris Wathen, Local 3217 (Log #W2749) Daniel H Zahn, Sterling Fire Dept (Log #W2724) Douglas W. Watts, Monmouth Fire Department Local 1702 David A. Zapf, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W5362) (Log #W2067) Bruce D Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters Frank T Watts, Amarillo Fire Dept (Log #W3152) (Log #W5096) Woodrow E. Webb, Williamsburg Fire Department Michael Zurawsky, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W1669) (Log #W5801) Raymond C Webber, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 (Log #W4945) RECOMMENDATION: Accept the entire document as Jeffrey A Weidner, Kenosha Professional Fire Fighters proposed. (Log #W3097) SUBSTANTIATION: On behalf of the 110 members of IAFF David Weisenberg, City of Lansing Fire Fighters (Log #W3187) Local 505 located in Decatur, Illinois we strongly support NFPA David A Wells, Springfield Fire Dept (Log #W3197) 1710. This is the first standard to address the staffing and August Werner, Belleville Fire Fighters (Log #W3250) deployment of such important fire department services as Pat West, Oregon State Fire Fighters Council (Log #W1687) wildland fire fighting, technical rescue, aircraft rescue and fire Timothy Westwood, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters fighting, and emergency medical services in a meaningful way. (Log #W4862) This standard will be an important and useful tool for our fire Buddy Wheatley, Covington Professional Fire Fighters department. (Log #W3165) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. James R. Whitaker, Baton Rouge Fire Fighters (Log #W2699) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Terence M White, Prince Georges County Fire/EMS Dept Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). (Log #W3690) ______Harold E. White, Jr., Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters (Log #W3751) (Log #7) William M. White, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters 1710- 18 - (Entire Document): Reject (Log #W5825) SUBMITTER: Joe Hill, City of Henderson Fire Department Alvin White, Houston Fire Dept. (Log #W5925) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 Steven E. White, Prince George’s County Fire Dept. RECOMMENDATION: This document should be a guideline (Log #W6048) for Fire Departments, recognizing that each City has individual Bruce Whiteside, Waterford Professional Fire Fighters characteristics, that are the responsibility of the authority having (Log #W3052) jurisdiction. Remove all "shall(s)." Richard Wiegand, Pittsburgh Professional Firefighters SUBSTANTIATION: None. (Log #W5771) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Frederick B Wier, Wellesley, MA (Log #W3423) Steve Wilding, Oak Creek Fire Fighters (Log #W2853) Gary H Wilds, Pittsburgh Professional Fire Fighters (Log #W3942)

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COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first (Log #28) initiated, the committee considered the different documents it 1710- 22 - (Entire Document): Reject had the authority to write and concluded that the development of SUBMITTER: Robert D. Wilson, Jefferson County Fire District a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 service. The committee has proceeded to develop the RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not in requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting the best interests of local fire departments and communities. document will strengthen the deployment of resources in SUBSTANTIATION: This standard will circumvent local communities protected by substantially all career fire control of personnel and staffing. It is impossible to meet this departments. Changing this document to a recommended standard. practice or guide at this time would leave fire departments and Note: You have totally lost sight on this one! the communities they protect without a standard to provide clear COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. direction for improvement of services. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). ______(Log #22) 1710- 19 - (Entire Document): Reject (Log #38) SUBMITTER: Roger Coleman, East Pierce Fire and Rescue 1710- 23 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Robert Flaherty, Port Ludlow Fire & Rescue RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of 1710 in its entirety as it is COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 not in the best interests of the local fire departments. RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. SUBSTANTIATION: Myself, my fellow fire commissioners and SUBSTANTIATION: I object to this standard in its entirety the local community do not believe that the content of the because it deprives local authority to determine their own level of proposed revisions to NFPA 1710 are in the best interests of emergency service. managing local fire districts due to too stringent of requirements COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and demands that appear beyond our financial budgets and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for commitments. Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: After soliciting public input, the ______NFPA Standards Council authorized a project to develop a document on the organization, operation, deployment, and evaluation of substantially all career public fire protection and (Log #39) emergency medical services. 1710- 24 - (Entire Document): Reject When this project was first initiated, the committee considered SUBMITTER: Roy Raudebough, Port Ludlow Fire & Rescue the different documents it had the authority to write and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 concluded that the development of a "minimum standard" would RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. be in the best interest of the fire service. The committee has SUBSTANTIATION: I object to this standard completely proceeded to develop the requirements for such a standard and because it deprives local authority to determine the level of feels the resulting document will strengthen the deployment of service in their particular location. resources in communities protected by substantially all career fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. departments. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). ______(Log #24) 1710- 20 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle (Log #40) SUBMITTER: Gary Harsh, E11, L11 1710- 25 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 SUBMITTER: Herb Stowe, Jefferson County Fire Protection RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. District #7 SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA 1710 finally gives Career COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Departments a Nationally acceptable benchmark of which we can RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. compare. It provides the minimum acceptable staffing SUBSTANTIATION: I object to this standard in its entirety requirements that Fire Departments should be operating. because it deprives local authority to determine their own level of COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. emergency service. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). ______(Log #25) 1710- 21 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle (Log #41) SUBMITTER: Troy L. Wymer, Brownsburg Fire Territory 1710- 26 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 SUBMITTER: Ralph Hayford, Thurston County Fire Protection RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. District No. 13 SUBSTANTIATION: We currently deal with inadequate staffing COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 in our Truck companies. We run only three firefighters and only RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of NFPA 1710. two are required to be there on a daily basis. We have a joint SUBSTANTIATION: Subjecting "one" rule to size fit all fire goal with the administration to reach staffing of four on all first departments is the wrong approach. Areas have differences from line pieces of equipment within two years. We support the East to West. Assuming more bodies increase effectiveness is the document wholly and offer any support we can give it. wrong approach. Great effort has gone into fire departments COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. formation, education and funding. To make requirements for COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for safe staffing should remain the departments responsibility. Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for ______Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). ______

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(Log #42) (Log #48) 1710- 27 - (Entire Document): Reject 1710- 32 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle SUBMITTER: Robert Pontius, Jefferson County Fire District #3 SUBMITTER: Chris Mackey, Jonesboro, AR COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. SUBSTANTIATION: I object to this standard in its entirety SUBSTANTIATION: None. because it deprives local authority to determine their own level of COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. emergency service. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). ______(Log #49) 1710- 33 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle (Log #43) SUBMITTER: Bernie Vahlkamp, Quincy Fire Department 1710- 28 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 SUBMITTER: Robert W. Gear, Benton County Fire District #1 RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: None. RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not in COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. the best interests of the local fire departments; delete the four COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for minute response time requirement in 1710 (delete Chapter Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). 5.2.3.1.1); delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing of minimum four person engine companies and to tactical hazards ______where there will be a requirement of five or six persons per engine (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1); delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in regard to deployment and staffing. It is neither financially (Log #50) feasible nor realistic for non-metro fire departments and districts. 1710- 34 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle SUBSTANTIATION: None. SUBMITTER: Paul Molkenbuhr, Livermore-Pleasanton Fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. SUBSTANTIATION: None. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). (Log #45) 1710- 29 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle ______SUBMITTER: Gary Metz, Morrison, CO COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. (Log #51) SUBSTANTIATION: Organization is good. 1710- 35 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. SUBMITTER: Christopher B. Petroff, Bernailillo County Fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees with the Department submitter regarding the importance of this standard for career COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 fire departments. However, the committee has made some RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. changes in the document based on comments provided by other SUBSTANTIATION: None. submitters. Accordingly, the committee is accepting the spirit of COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. this comment and hopes that the submitter will agree with the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for wording of the final document. Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). ______

(Log #46) (Log #52) 1710- 30 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle 1710- 36 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle SUBMITTER: Craig Hooper, Eastside Fire & Rescue SUBMITTER: Dean Shelton, Marysville Fire Department #12 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. SUBSTANTIATION: Safety and continuity of firefighters on SUBSTANTIATION: None. scene. Running different numbers of people on rigs to scenes COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. does not give adequate response to the preservation of life and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for property. Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for ______Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). ______(Log #53) 1710- 37 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle SUBMITTER: Howard Hall, Elk Grove Professional FireFighters (Log #47) Local 2340 1710- 31 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 SUBMITTER: Brett R. Scholbe, Derry Fire /EMS RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 SUBSTANTIATION: This will help and maintain the RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. professional in the Elk Grove Village Fire Dept. SUBSTANTIATION: None. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). ______

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(Log #54) (Log #63) 1710- 38 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle 1710- 44 - (Entire Document): Reject SUBMITTER: Frank Share, Harrison Township Fire Fighters SUBMITTER: Noel Hardin, Asotin County Fire District #1 Union COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. SUBSTANTIATION: Not in the best interest of local fire SUBSTANTIATION: Firefighter health and safety. department. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). ______(Log #55) 1710- 39 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle (Log #65) SUBMITTER: Scott A. Learned, Fairbanks, AK 1710- 45 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 SUBMITTER: Russell "Pat" Humphries, Spokane County Fire RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. District #1 SUBSTANTIATION: None. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. RECOMMENDATION: They [the elected Fire Commissioners of COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Spokane Valley] believe local conditions and risk should dictate Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). deployment standards and local elected officials should be responsible for deployment decisions not a third party standard. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Our public elected officials believe there is no empirical data or evidence to support this proposal. It is (Log #56) simply a collection of personal conjecture with no empirical 1710- 40 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle standing. SUBMITTER: Mark Lundy, City of Worthington Division of COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Fire/EMS COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 recommended language for the committee to consider. RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. SUBSTANTIATION: None. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #82) Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). 1710- 46 - (Entire Document): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason ______County, WA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #57) RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. 1710- 41 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle SUBSTANTIATION: It is not in the best interests of the local SUBMITTER: Brian Tobin, United Phoenix Fire Fighters Assoc, fire departments. 493 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). SUBSTANTIATION: This document finally standardizes fire department responses and can measure fire department ______preparedness. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. (Log #158) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for 1710- 47 - (Entire Document): Reject Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). SUBMITTER: Pete Holtman, Pierce County Fire District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not in the best interests of the local fire departments. SUBSTANTIATION: None. (Log #58) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 42 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBMITTER: Robert Schreihans, Carson City Fire Fighters Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 ______RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. SUBSTANTIATION: This is an excellent safety issue for the (Log #159) staffing of firefighters on the scene of a fire. This will help both 1710- 48 - (Entire Document): Reject the firefighters for safety and the people we serve. SUBMITTER: Verne Pierson, Graham Fire & Rescue COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: 1. Delete 1710 in it’s entirety. Most Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). western rural departments not able to comply. 2. Delete 1710 Chapter 5.2.3.1.1 4 minute requirement. Not ______possible in rural environments. 3. Delete minimum four person staffing and 5-6 tactical staffing. (Log #59) Not financially feasible. 1710- 43 - (Entire Document): Reject 4. Delete all Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) deployment and staffing. SUBMITTER: Kevin Toth, East Chicago Fire Not financially responsible nor realistic for non-metro rural fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 departments. RECOMMENDATION: Staffing requirements would cause my SUBSTANTIATION: As an elected official in a primarily rural city to eliminate engines or trucks to fully staff other equipment. fire district I find many of the requirements of NFPA 1710 beyond This would cost us positions and rank. We do not have the funds the abilities of a fire department to meet. With state restrictions available to hire more firefighters for these staffing requirements. on taxing ability the standards with above items included would SUBSTANTIATION: This will cause problems for small be absolutely impossible to meet. departments. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any Public Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). recommended language for the committee to consider. ______

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(Log #160) SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA 1500 was tough on us. 1710 and 1710- 49 - (Entire Document): Reject 1720 will close small city and rural departments. The America SUBMITTER: Bill Knannlein, Grays Harbor Fire Commission will really be burning. Please use common sense. Assn. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710. Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). Delete 4 minute response time. Delete all Chapter 5 - Staffing. ______Delete minimum 4 person engine companies. SUBSTANTIATION: Volunteer fire departments cannot meet 4 man pumper companies - or 4 minute response time. We have (Log #177) no one in stations. We are unable to pay for station personnel. 1710- 54 - (Entire Document): Reject They respond from all distances. SUBMITTER: Patrick J. Kennedy, Spokane County Fire District 9 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: Following are major objections to the Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). standards as they are currently written. ______1. Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not in the best interests of the local fire departments. (Log #161) 2. Delete the four-minute response time requirement in 1710 1710- 50 - (Entire Document): Reject (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1). SUBMITTER: Jack R. Dillon, Yakima Fire District #9 3. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing of minimum four- COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 person engine companies and to tactical hazards where there will RECOMMENDATION: Need to delete 1710 its not good for Fire be a requirement of five of six persons per engine (Chapter Departments. Need to delete Chapter 5 it is not financially 5.2.2.1.1). feasible. We are a small fire district there is not enough money in 4. Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in regard to deployment our budget now. and staffing. It is neither financially feasible nor realistic for non- SUBSTANTIATION: We are all volunteer including comm. We metro fire departments and districts. strive to keep up. 1710-1720 is not reasonable. SUBSTANTIATION: Proposed deployment standards in 1710- COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1720 cannot in any way be funded by non-metro fire departments ! COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-19 (Log # 22). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). ______(Log #162) 1710- 51 - (Entire Document ): Reject SUBMITTER: Donald E. Foster, Spokane County Fire District #9 (Log #178) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 55 - (Entire Document): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in it’s entirety not best SUBMITTER: Reggie Romines, Pierce County Fire District #21 interests of local fire departments. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Delete 4 minute response time requirements in 1710 delete RECOMMENDATION: 1) Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not Chapter 5.2.3.1.1. in the best interests of the local fire department. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing minimum 4 persons 2) Delete the four-minute response time requirement in 1710 engine crews, companies and to staffing of persons required no. 5 (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1). or 6 persons companies. 3) Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing of minimum Delete all of Chapter 5 NFPA 1710 regard to deployment and four-person engine companies and to tactical hazards where there staffing. will be a requirement of five or six persons per engine (Chapter SUBSTANTIATION: We consider it outrageous to this unfair 5.2.2.1.1). process which is an attempt to circumvent local control of 4) Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in regard to personnel and staffing issues. deployment and staffing. Its neither financially feasible nor We are not metro fire departments. We man within our realistic for non-metro fire departments and districts. resources and not for large cities. Brush trucks included. SUBSTANTIATION: None. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Public Comment 1710-2 (Log # 17). minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a ______document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. (Log #171) 1710- 52 - (Entire Document): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Larry Ericksen, Chelan County Fire District #4 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #179) RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: 1710- 56 - (Entire Document): Reject 1710 1720 SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Shaughnessy, Camano Island, WA SUBSTANTIATION: These standards would be almost COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 impossible to fulfill as to budget restrictions and availability of RECOMMENDATION: 1) Delete 1710 entirely - it not in the manpower. best interest of the fire district (rural). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 2) Delete 4 minute response time (1710 Chapter 5.2.3.1.1) not COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for possible for our district. Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). 3) Delete all of Chapter 5 regard to staffing minimum of 4 person engine co. and to "tactical hazards" requirement of 5 or 6 ______person engine company (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1). 4) Again "Delete" all of Chapter 5 (1710) regard, "Deployment (Log #176) and Staffing", not financially realistic for our Rural District. 1710- 53 - (Entire Document): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: SUBMITTER: Jerry Davis, Selah Fire Department YCFD #2 I’m a fourteen year fire Comm. - we have a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 limited budget - virtually "All" Volunteer Dept. - "Rural Area" our RECOMMENDATION tax base simply could not and would not agree to finance such : Delete 1710 in its entirety not at best of and extravagant proposal! local fire departments. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Delete 4 minute response time 1710 5.2.3.1.1. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Delete all of Chapter 5 minimum staffing not feasible for non- Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). metro departments. ______

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(Log #180) an area of the jurisdiction that is rather isolated and serves a very 1710- 57 - (Entire Document): Reject limited number of facilities. This is a decision that cannot be SUBMITTER: Floyd E. Davis, Grays Harbor Fire District # 4 controlled by the fire department. The department may well COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 provide service to these areas, however, the response times RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of proposal 1710 - our established by an NFPA committee simply cannot be met. Rather department could not comply. than having an NFPA "standard" setting response times, the Delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1. standard should state that the department must establish response Delete Chapter 5.2.2.1.1. time objectives that are approved by the governing body. The Delete all of Chapter 5 in NFPA 1710. requirement should also recognize that the times may need to be SUBSTANTIATION: A 4 minute response time is totally established by districts or areas. If the committee feels it needs to unrealistic for our department, especially during the night. establish response times, it should do so as recommendations in During the day, we are lucky to have six responders, total! If an appendix notes. The committee’s response time objectives if these requirements are approved, our department would have to adopted as part of a "standard" may well result in unrealistic disband. No one wants that to happen. liability situations for fire departments and governing authorities COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. in jurisdictions where the Committee’s objectives simply cannot COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for be realistically met. Keep in mind that people served by the fire Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). departments are usually fully aware of response time limitations. People often construct homes in areas of the jurisdiction that are ______remote from many community services. This standard must provide for a variety of conditions and not establish criteria that may result in situations that can harm a fire department and or (Log #181) the governing authority. Staffing levels must also be left to the 1710- 58 - (Entire Document): Reject governing authority. Fire department management can offer SUBMITTER: John C. Gordon, Chelan County Fire District # 7 recommendations regarding staffing levels to the governing COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 authority, however, it cannot establish funding for positions. The RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not in fire department may utilize Committee recommendations located the best interests of the local fire departments. in "standard" appendix notes to support its recommendations to SUBSTANTIATION: Most rural fire districts in the western part the governing authority. Also, it is very unclear how and by whom of the United States do not have the funding or tax base to this "standard" is to be adopted and enforced. This needs further realistically fund these NFPA proposals. I urge you to stop and clarification in the text of the standard so there is no question as think about the financial burdens you are putting on rural to the interest of the NFPA regarding how this standard is taxpayers when you draft these proposals! intended to be used. Is this intended for adoption by a state COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and/or federal authority or by some rating organization or entity? COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for The existence of a "standard" that cannot be met by a jurisdiction Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). can establish grounds for unrealistic and unnecessary legal problems for departments and governing authorities. Every effort ______should be taken by the Committee, the Standards Council, and the NFPA management to avoid confusion and negative impacts on all concerned. (Log #195) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 59 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first SUBMITTER: Thomas M. Shaughnessy, Camano Island, WA initiated, the committee considered the different documents it COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 had the authority to write and concluded that the development of RECOMMENDATION: 1) Delete 1710 entirely - it is not in the a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire best interest of the fire district (rural). service. The committee has proceeded to develop the 2) Delete 4 minute response time (1710 Chapter 5.2.3.1.1) not requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting possible for our district. document will strengthen the deployment of resources in 3) Delete all of Chapter 5 regard to staffing minimum of 4- communities protected by substantially all career fire person engine co. to "tactical hazards" requirement of 5-6 person departments. The committee has reconsidered its action as engine co. (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1). requested, but it feels that moving all of the indicated 4) Again "Delete" all of Chapter 5 (1710) regarding requirements into the Annex at this time would leave fire "Deployment and Staffing", "Not" financially realistic for our departments and the communities they protect without a standard Rural District. to provide clear direction for improvement of services. SUBSTANTIATION: I’m a fourteen year Fire Comm. - we have a limited budget - virtually "All" Volunteer Dept. - "Rural Area" as ______a tax base simply could not and would not agree to finance such an extravagant proposal! COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #290) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for 1710- 61 - (Entire Document): Reject Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). SUBMITTER: Charles M. Natun, Grays Harbor Fire Protection District #7 ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: The following are major objections to the standards as they are currently written: (Log #288) 1. Delete 1710 in its entirety as it is not in the best interests of the 1710- 60 - (Entire Document): Reject local fire departments; SUBMITTER: George M. Lanier, Rome Fire Dept., GA 2. Delete the four-minute response time requirement in 1710 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1); RECOMMENDATION: Reconsider the Committee Action and 3. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing of minimum four- return the document to the Committee for reconsideration person engine companies and to tactical hazards where there will relative to such matters as response time objectives and various be a requirement of fire or six persons per engine (Chapter staffing levels established by the Committee. It is strongly 5.2.2.1.1). recommended that the Committee remove specific 4. Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in regard to deployment "requirements" of this "standard" relative to response time and staffing. It is neither financially feasible nor realistic for non- objectives, staffing, etc. and place them in appropriate appendix metro fire departments and districts. notes as recommendations or guidelines. The provisions of SUBSTANTIATION: None. 4.1.3.1.1 are examples as are staffing levels of Chapter 5. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The establishment of response time COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for objectives and or staffing levels by the Committee is simply not Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). justified. There are areas in many jurisdictions that simply cannot be reached within the time frames established by the committee. ______In many situations the governing authority has made the decision that it not cost effective to locate stations and equipment to serve

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(Log #291) attempting development of a Standard that has such far reaching 1710- 62 - (Entire Document): Reject considerations. SUBMITTER: Larry Ericksen, Chelan County Fire District #4 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: Delete text: Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). Deployment standards 1710 SUBSTANTIATION: These standards would be next to ______impossible to fulfill as to budgetary and availability of manpower. It appears to be for large metro fire departments use only. It cannot work with rural and small city (40,000 population) fire (Log #354) departments. 1710- 67 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: David L. Wheeler, Jefferson County Fire District COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for No. 3 Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. ______SUBSTANTIATION: I object to this standard in its entirety because it deprives LOCAL AUTHORITY to determine their own level of emergency service. In my opinion the adoption of this (Log #312) standard would exceed our fire districts financial ability to 1710- 63 - (Entire Document): Reject implement and leave our community without fire protection or SUBMITTER: Dwight James, Rochester, WA emergency services. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire 1710 proposal and rewrite COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for to recognize the differences between the capabilities of the small Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). rural volunteer organizations, and the fully paid departments. SUBSTANTIATION: Small rural volunteer departments must be ______given a different standard, or level of response capabilities, from municipal or fully paid departments. Our areas of coverage, in many cases, makes this standard unreachable for us, and to set a (Log #355) standard above the capability of a vast number of districts is 1710- 68 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle unacceptable. SUBMITTER: Stacey Harrington, Professional Fire Fighters COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Local 1579/Rep. IAFF COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire proposed document. SUBSTANTIATION: None. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Public Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). (Log #313) 1710- 64 - (Entire Document): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Walter Schoonmaker, Hartsdale Fire Dist. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire proposal. (Log #356) SUBSTANTIATION: Many departments will not be able to 1710- 69 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle comply and the standard will be used against fire departments SUBMITTER: Rick Skoglind, Manchester FIre Resuce and officers in legal actions. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBSTANTIATION: None. Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for ______Public Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). ______(Log #315) 1710- 65 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle (Log #369) SUBMITTER: Robert Pokorny, Rep. Itasca Professional Fire 1710- 70 - (Entire Document): Reject Fighters, Local 3461 SUBMITTER: Brad Lutthans, Snohomish Co. Fire #15 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Accept entire document as proposed. RECOMMENDATION: Contents not geared to West Coast, rural SUBSTANTIATION: None. small city fire district. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. SUBSTANTIATION: Not realistic manpower funding not COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for available to provide 4 person engine company. Comment 1710-29 (Log #45). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any ______recommended language for the committee to consider. ______(Log #350) 1710- 66 - (Entire Document): Reject (Log #370) SUBMITTER: Richard S. Kuss, East Pierce Fire and Rescue 1710- 71 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Mark Pereira, North County Fire Protection RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 in its entirety. District of Monterey County SUBSTANTIATION: Having served an over 30 year Fire Service COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 career, firefighter and public safety has always been and will RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. remain to be, my top priority. However in its pursuit to enhance SUBSTANTIATION: This standard fails to take into safety, NFPA 1710 fails to use common sense in developing consideration limited capabilities of local jurisdictions. reasonable economic feasibility for application. I have found it This is just another standard (on delivery of services) that impossible as a policy maker to establish urban level services in cannot be obtained. our suburban and rural fire district, due to restriction by COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Washington State Laws regarding maximum taxation levels. The COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for NFPA needs to spend more time in exploration, research and Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). problem solving teamed with local jurisdictions, State and Federal Agencies and other Government entities, prior to ______

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(Log #504) SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following 1710- 72 - (Entire Document): Reject comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a SUBMITTER: Charles R. Perkey, Waukegan Fire Department belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be RECOMMENDATION: I do not believe that the NFPA should generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk draft any standard that would have the effect of mandating levels based on community hazards and scientific information minimum manning and responses. These are local municipal such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire issues and are out of the realm of your authority. and life safety circumstances. SUBSTANTIATION: If you adopt this standard you are going to While there are many good concepts expressly within the force cities such as mine to get rid of all NFPA codes so that we standard, there are far too many parts that make generic won’t be perceived as being selective in our enforcement. assumptions about the Fire & Life Safety Environment, level of COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. risk to firefighters, and the acceptable level of risk to a specific COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any community. One size fits all solution will cause many recommended language for the committee to consider. communities to come into compliance using approaches that will result in increased risks to firefighters, citizens and the general ______community. A better approach would be to identify a standard that would: A. Allow a community to adjust response time and staffing (Log #511) standards based on alternative methods of risk reduction (e.g. 1710- 73 - (Entire Document): Reject sprinklers, proactive EMS services in conjunction with the health SUBMITTER: Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department agencies, proactive involvement of business and citizens in COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 preparing for and reducing risk, etc.) RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 2001 Edition Chapter 1, B. And respect the right of a community to identify their Section 1.1 through Chapter 6, Section 6.5. acceptable level of risk as long as they identify companion SUBSTANTIATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. This proposed standards that provide for firefighter safety. Insurance rates standard dictates minimum staffing and response times. By doing should provide a partial balance for the communities in so, it usurps the ability or duly elected public officials and the addressing risk. taxpayer to determine the level of fire protection for which they The committee has not justified that a fire or other emergency are willing to pay. will expose firefighters to different levels of risk based on their COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. career vs. volunteer status. If firefighter safety is a true priority COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for and the community right to establish levels of service based on Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). levels of risk and built in protection, then this standard would be substantially different. Because of the failure to do that as well as ______the inadequate justification for rejecting a large number of the proposals by others, I believe this standard, as well as 1720, need to go back to the drawing board. (Log #568) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 74 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBMITTER: James M. Grady, III, Illinois Fire Chiefs Assoc. / Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). Frankfort Fire Protection District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: The Illinois Fire Chiefs Association (IFCA) Executive Board has reviewed the proposed NFPA Standard 1710 as well as reviewing concerns that have been (Log #653) brought to our attention by our members and with that in mind 1710- 76 - (Entire Document): Reject we offer the following. SUBMITTER: Mike Casson, Cottonwood Fire Department The IFCA supports standards that protect the safety of our COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 personnel and enhancements that bring about safer conditions RECOMMENDATION: Delete Entire Document for operations on the fire ground. However the IFCA has serious SUBSTANTIATION: This document eliminates local control of concerns when there is a standard that dictates staffing and Fire Departments. It mandates requirements that many response times. departments can not meet either in personnel or equipment. The IFCA feels very strongly that these critical issues need to be COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. addressed at the local level by the Fire Chief where he/she is in COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for the best position to determine matters of staffing and response Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). times. At this time the IFCA cannot give complete endorsement to this ______proposed standard (NFPA 1710) because of our concerns related to staffing and response times. SUBSTANTIATION: The Illinois Fire Chiefs Association feels (Log #657) that issues related to staffing and response should be left up to 1710- 77 - (Entire Document): Reject the Local Fire Chief as how to respond and staff. I have attached SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life a copy of our complete position to this proposed standard Safety KCFD #43 (1710). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Delete "career fire department" and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any "substantially all career fire department" in all locations they are recommended language for the committee to consider. found. Add "Fire departments serving a population of 250,000 or more ______directly or by contract", as the controlling criteria for applicability. SUBSTANTIATION: This standard is appropriate only in the (Log #574) large metro fire departments in its current form as a minimum 1710- 75 - (Entire Document): Reject standard either the scope and title must be changed, or the SUBMITTER: Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. mandatory language must be removed. A companion proposal COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 for 1720 would identify which standard should apply to all RECOMMENDATION: Delete proposed NFPA 1710 in its organizations. entirety, and rewrite it with an emphasis on managing risk to COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. firefighters (allowing for the realities of different levels of risk by COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Committee's scope is to situations and community hazard vulnerability) and respecting address the "organization, operation, deployment, and evaluation the right of a community to set its acceptable level of risk. of substantially all career public fire protection and emergency Instead of setting uni-standards for each community - it would be medical services," without discrimination by size of department. more appropriate to require each community to identify its acceptable level of risk through a public process involving diverse ______representation from the grass root citizen level of a community.

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(Log #662) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 78 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBMITTER: David M. Durgin, Northborough Fire Department Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: As the fire chief of the Town of ______Northborough and and NFPA member since 1987, I wish to go on record as opposing the drafts of NFPA 1710 and 1720, Standard for the Organization and Deployment of Fire (Log #677) Suppression Operations, Emergency Medical Operations, and 1710- 81 - (Entire Document): Reject Special Operations to the Public by Career Fire Departments and SUBMITTER: Dennis Richards, Pierce County Fire District #5 by Volunteer Fire Departments. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: In addition I would offer the following RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "This concerns: standard contains minimum requirements relating to the • In a combination department of career and call firefighters, organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency which standard would apply? Would there be two standards? medical operations and special operations to the public by • There is no accommodation for the EMT-Intermediate level substantially fully paid career fire departments". of emergency medical care. Currently, this department operates SUBSTANTIATION: The change is made to clear up ambiguity at this level of care. that is caused by the word substantially. • The requirement of two paramedics for ALS staffing is COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. excessive and not cost effective. The alternate staffing of EMT-1 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for and EMT-P or EMT-P with an EMT-P assistant should be allowed. Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). • The current requirements of six hours initial SAED/AED training and two hours of quarterly training, coupled with an ______every two-year physician assessment, make this level of First Responder care cost prohibitive. • The staffing requirement for structure suppression and IRIC (Log #683) are unobtainable for this department in the first eight minutes. 1710- 82 - (Entire Document): Reject While agreeing with this staffing level for effective operations and SUBMITTER: Alan D. Predmore, City of Buckley Fire Dept. safety, major budget increases would be required, and mutual aid COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 travel companies to fill the staffing void could not achieve this RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 in its entirety. time restriction. SUBSTANTIATION: I have proposed changes to NFPA 1720 • Use of response time objectives and percentages are that would allow it to be used for all public fire service. I am unrealistic given travel distances and road infrastructure. This opposed to dual standards for the fire service based on the community’s roads range from two interstate highways to early composition of personnel in a particular department. NFPA 1720 New England hilly roads laid out in the 1700’s. can serve as a standard for all fire departments. • Wild land suppression staffing is excessive, and the need for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. two apparatus to respond to each incident is not realistic. With COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for the average fire of one quarter acre on a Class Three day, two Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). firefighters responding in a Type Six unit is safe and effective. In a perfect world with an unlimited budget, I would love to ______have the department you have outlined in NFPA 1710 and 1720. Unfortunately, this community could not afford the outlined staffing requirements for structure, EMS, and wild land (Log #690) suppression. I respectfully request that you rethink your position 1710- 83 - (Entire Document): Reject and adopt a standard which is safe, cost effective, and achievable. SUBMITTER: David Ellingson, Poulsbo, WA COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: Delete proposed standard in its entirety. Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). SUBSTANTIATION: Our local fire department would be substantially impacted by this new standard and exposed to ______increased liability risk. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #675) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for 1710- 79 - (Entire Document): Reject Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). SUBMITTER: David Watson, Pierce County Fire District #5 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Delete "substantially all" to read: to the public by substantially all career fire departments. SUBSTANTIATION: This clarifies who is intended to be (Log #695) impacted. Individual combination can always apply the career 1710- 84 - (Entire Document): Reject standard if they choose. NFPA 1720 requires AHJ’s in SUBMITTER: Roy A. Rodriguez, Barstow Fire District combination departments to determine if that standard is COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 appropriate. RECOMMENDATION: I ask that you not approve any new COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. changes or create new codes that fire departments cannot pay for. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Standards Council has Unless you have already established a funding source that is directed that the Technical Committee use the words available to all fire departments that may be effected by your "substantially all" to differentiate this standard from NFPA 1720. decisions. SUBSTANTIATION: This letter is in response to the proposed ______changes to NFPA 1710 and 1720. I must ask that you seriously consider all the implications of the changes you are proposing. To any fire department the number one issue will always be the (Log #676) financial costs of implementing any new programs or changes 1710- 80 - (Entire Document): Reject necessary to meet new requirements. SUBMITTER: William Jarmon, Pierce County Fire District #5 These changes are considered unfunded mandates. Creating COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 new rules or standards that will effect a fire departments ability to RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "This fulfill those changes without giving them the funding to standard contains minimum requirements relating to the implement, is an unfunded mandate. organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency I hope that you will consider the comments I have expressed to medical operations and special operations to the public by your Council. substantially all career fire departments fire departments COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. comprised of fully paid career personnel." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any SUBSTANTIATION: "Substantially" is an ambiguous word. This recommended language for the committee to consider. change provides for clear meaning of who this standard applies to. ______

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(Log #696) found in many writings throughout the fire service, so there is no 1710- 85 - (Entire Document): Reject legitimate reason for these standards. SUBMITTER: Bob Close, Mason County Fire Distrtict #6 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any RECOMMENDATION: We urge you to reconsider your position recommended language for the committee to consider. and reject these standards as they are written. SUBSTANTIATION: As the governing Board of Commissioners ______of a Combination Fire Department in Union, Washington, we would like to take this opportunity to express our dismay and disapproval of the proposed standards NFPA 1710 and NFPA (Log #736) 1720. 1710- 88 - (Entire Document): Reject We have the utmost respect for the long history of the NFPA and SUBMITTER: John M. Scherrei, County of Santa Barbara Fire its efforts to ensure the safety of all Fire Service personnel. Department However, after careful review of these two proposed standards, we COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 are convinced that the committee has somehow strayed from that RECOMMENDATION: I request that permissive language be honorable past and entered into an area which it is neither included in this proposed standard to rectify both the dilemma qualified nor empowered to dictate standards. and the unreasonable risk. The dictate of service levels has always been borne by, and - Downgrading the document from a Standard to a should remain in the hands of the "Authority having Jurisdiction" Recommended Practice and the community which it serves. While we are sure that the - Allow the document to be locally incrementally implemented. committee intends only the best for our constituents, it is - Restrict any Standard to Metro Departments impossible for the committee to know or understand the SUBSTANTIATION: The current proposed NFPA 1710 demographics of our community. Surely you can all understand document regretfully place most Fire Chiefs both in a dilemma the need to establish service levels based on those many factors. and in position of risk. As Fire Chiefs we were all once COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Firefighters. We support the intent of this minimum staffing COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for standard. However, in Urban/rural departments the tax base is Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). not sufficient to support this measure. Once again the intent is admirable, but raising staffing to a national standard will only ______create fodder to an already litigious society. A standard by its very nature will be referenced by many seeking recourse against Firefighters of every rank and governmental (Log #697) officials who are truly desirous of providing the best affordable 1710- 86 - (Entire Document): Reject public safety. SUBMITTER: Larry Plumer, Wisconsin State Firefighter's Santa Barbara County has some areas of lengthy responses. Association, Inc. Mutual or automatic aid will not assist in proposed staffing COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 standards. The proposed standard does not consider isolated RECOMMENDATION: Our Board of Directors has not met for communities, which are supported by tax monies, which are awhile and realizes this is not the appropriate method to handle bolstered from the larger community. NFPA 1710 cannot this situation, but in roughly going over NFPA 1710 and NFPA disregard the immediate consequences. 1720, we feel many of these changes should be left at the local Santa Barbara County Departments will not be able to meet this level. standard as proposed either by adding staffing or relying on SUBSTANTIATION: The Wisconsin State Firefighters simultaneous companies to arrive on scene. Association, serving approximately 11,000 volunteer firefighter COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. throughout the State of Wisconsin is more than willing to work COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first with your committee in these areas because we are made up initiated, the committee considered the different documents it basically of volunteer firefighters of which these changes will had the authority to write and concluded that the development of affect. a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire Thank you for any consideration you may give us in this area. service. The committee has proceeded to develop the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any document will strengthen the deployment of resources in recommended language for the committee to consider. communities protected by substantially all career fire departments. Changing this document to a recommended ______practice or guide at this time would leave fire departments and the communities they protect without a standard to provide clear direction for improvement of services. (Log #735) 1710- 87 - (Entire Document): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Walter Schoonmaker, Hartsdale Fire Dist. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: None. (Log #744) SUBSTANTIATION: As an NFPA Member and Fire Chief of the 1710- 89 - (Entire Document): Accept in Principle Hartsdale Fire District I adamantly oppose the proposed SUBMITTER: Michael Osiecki, District Local 3918 standards 1710 and 1720 for the following reasons: IAFF AFL-CIO-CLC 1. As far as I can see 1710 is just another ploy by the IAFF to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 force minimum manpower requirements through recognized RECOMMENDATION: We are a small career department of 20 standards. This was the reason for the defeat of 1500 and the fire fighters and 3 Chief Officers. I totally support this standard, abolishment of the 1200 committee. For the NFPA to establish for many reasons. standards which will be forced upon communities through legal SUBSTANTIATION: The safety of firefighters is paramount and action is just plain wrong. Let the IAFF negotiate manpower, with this standard, we reach the goal. This standard is well unless the NFPA is considering funding the additional manpower overdue and we should pass this standard as a benchmark for not they are advocating. only the safety of our fire fighters, but the safety of the Public 2. We are not aware of scientifically documented data which which we are sworn to serve. As fire fighters we need a standard would suggest a direct relationship between staffing and fire like this to make us strive to comply with each sentence and fighter safety. We strongly oppose the inclusion of any staffing paragraph in the standard, sure it will be tough for my minimums in NFPA 1710 or any other national standard or department, but I do know we will work with the Chief, Board Of regulation. The way I see it, the more people involved the greater Fire Commission and the Taxpayers we serve to get there. the chance of more injuries. Let the authority having jurisdiction Without this standard we have nothing, we are a ship without a make the manpower decision. motor, a rifle without ammo. A with no staffing, does 3. 1720 looks like a plan to get rid of volunteer fire fighters, not nothing but without the tools (firefighters) on board, it just immediately but as a long range plan. another parade piece. This standard not only helps us in staffing 4. The vast majority of what is included in 1710 and 1720 is like a but other areas as well. In my Fire House we respond to 43% reinvention of the wheel, it’s in place and in use and can be medical calls, this standard will help us do our job safer. I command the committee for its work on such a standard as 1710.

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If hope you all vote in favor of this standard my life safety depends (Log #833) on it . 1710- 93 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. SUBMITTER: Marcus Kragness, City of Botheu COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Public Comment 1710-12 (Log #1). RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire document. SUBSTANTIATION: The NFPA should not establish level of ______service requirements or standards that do not allow local jurisdiction input based on local community values. (Log #757) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 90 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBMITTER: Dennis E. Mason, Clark County Fire Chiefs Assoc Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety and adopt ______1720, as currently written, as the single standard for all career, volunteer and combination fire departments. SUBSTANTIATION: Adoption of a single standard would (Log #880) eliminate the problems and criticism associated with a double 1710- 94 - (Entire Document): Reject standard. Additionally, the wording in 1720, as currently written, SUBMITTER: David Lynam, Clark County Fire Marshal will allow each community to determine the level of service COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 provided while adhering to a minimum standard. RECOMMENDATION: Delete the standard in its entirety. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The proposed standard does not recognize COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for the dependent connection of a community’s building and fire Comment 1710-97 (Log #908). codes, its fire prevention programs and its emergency response resources in defining acceptable levels of fire protection. The ______relative levels of each of these and other protection components should be decided locally based upon available conditions and (Log #792) resources. 1710- 91 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Terry Ollis, Everett Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). RECOMMENDATION: Delete proposed NFPA 1710 in its entirety, and rewrite it with an emphasis on managing risk to ______firefighters (allowing for the realities of different levels of risk by situations and community hazard vulnerability) and respecting the right of a community to set its acceptable level of risk. Instead (Log #904) of setting uni-standards for each community - it would be more 1710- 95 - (Entire Document): Reject appropriate to require each community to identify its acceptable SUBMITTER: Thomas Von Essen, The City of New York Fire level of risk through a public process involving diverse Department representation from the grass root citizen level of a community. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: While there are many good concepts RECOMMENDATION: I have reviewed the draft NFPA 1710 and expressly within the standard, there are far too many parts that offer the following comments. make generic assumptions about the Fire & Life Safety Two versions of the proposed standard were reviewed by the Environment, level of risk to Firefighters, and the acceptable level NYC Fire Department. One headed NFPA 1710, May 2001 ROP of risk to a specific community. One size fits all solution will and the other taken from the NFPA web page is simply titled 2001 cause many communities to come into compliance using Edition. It is unclear which of these documents is the most approaches that will result in increased risks to firefighters, current version. citizens and the general community. A better approach would be SUBSTANTIATION: We observe that the 2001 edition is much to identify a standard that would: less restrictive in defining standards relying rather on the authority A. Allow a community to adjust response time and staffing having jurisdiction to set operational, response and staffing standards based on alternative methods of risk reduction (e.g. requirements. FDNY believes this is the more appropriate way to sprinklers, proactive EMS services in conjunction with the health state criteria for EMS systems. The provision of EMS varies so agencies, proactive involvement of business and citizens in widely by location, population and resources that publishing preparing for and reducing risk, etc.). strict criteria will place undue hardships on many career B. And respect the right of a community to identify their departments and may present a liability unnecessarily. The acceptable level of risk as long as they identify companion staffing standards in 1710 May 2001 ROP 5.3.3.3 are without standards that provide for firefighter safety. Insurance rates objective basis or merit and are founded in any research. The should provide a partial balance for the communities in authority having jurisdiction should be the entity determining addressing risk. response, levels of care and staffing and other operational COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. parameters within its area. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any recommended language for the committee to consider. ______

(Log #832) 1710- 92 - (Entire Document): Reject (Log #905) SUBMITTER: Ronald Caster, Washougal Fire & Rescue 1710- 96 - (Entire Document): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Mike Harris, Olympia, WA RECOMMENDATION: Delete the proposed NFPA 1710 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Standard in its entirety. RECOMMENDATION: Please delete proposed 1710 and 1720 in SUBSTANTIATION: The NFPA is attempting to establish a their entirety. minimum manning document. This is best left for local SUBSTANTIATION: All of these proposals are decisions that communities, governments and individual departments. This must be made at local level without the pressure that NFPA adds. standard deprives local communities and jurisdictions of the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ability to determine their own local service. In fact, it deprives COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Mrs. Smith the ability to decide what level of service she wants. Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for ______Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). ______

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proposal of combining the documents, should be produced as a (Log #908) RECOMMENDED PRACTICE instead of a Standard. 1710- 97 - (Entire Document): Reject As stated by Cortez Lawrence, Auburn Public Safety Dept., SUBMITTER: Wayne Waggoner, Tennessee Fire Code AL[E] in his statement regarding his negative vote on NFPA 1710 Development Committee which applies to NFPA 1720 as well, Mr. Lawrence said: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-575 "Conceptually I favor community based performance standards. RECOMMENDATION: Document needs to be sent back to Competent fire service leadership together with interested groups committee for consideration of combining both NFPA 1710 and can develop and evaluate deployment and response standards that 1720. best fit a community. While I consider the performance standard SUBSTANTIATION: The TFCDC representing the Tennessee for staffing as reasonable for most suburban/urban communities, Fire Chiefs Association and the Tennessee Fire Safety Inspectors it is reasonable to allow alternative methodologies to be used to Association, feels that there should be one standard for the achieve desired outcomes. There is no empirical evidence to deployment of fire service for all types of departments (name support the proposed standard." dept.). This standard should address the basic services provided This is a tremendous unfunded mandate for all communities. by all fire department including suppression, prevention, public Both NFPA 1710 and NFPA 1720 take away a local government’s education, EMS, code enforcement, and special operations. This ability to decide how to best deal with fire protection, depending standard should address what services fire department provide on the local environment. Minimum manning standards, as not how to provide them. This standard should serve as a series expressed in the NFPA proposal, take away the ability of each of benchmarks or goals for all communities to follow rather than local government to respond to local needs and conditions - a requirement. It is contrary to the political climate of our nation which includes fire prevention and EMS - not just fire to dictate how services are provided at the local level. In every suppression. One broad brush mandate for all situations does aspect of our society, decisions such as these are made at the not work and we are strongly opposed to an agency or association local level. Once time elements are removed from both NFPA such as NFPA mandating yet another set of costly proposals, 1710 and 1720 the similarities between the two should allow the without regard and deference to decision making of local elected two standards be combined as one. Both NFPA 1710 and 1720, or officials and fire chiefs. as the TFCDC proposal of combining the documents, should be NFPA is assuming a legislative role that it has no authority for. produced as a RECOMMENDED PRACTICE instead of a Congress, state legislatures, OSHA and state labor agencies are Standard. the appropriate forums for this type of rule-making, where a As stated by Cortez Lawrence, Auburn Public Safety Dept., vehicle for public hearings can take place. AL[E] in his statement regarding his negative vote on NFPA 1710 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. which applies to NFPA 1720 as well, Mr. Lawrence said: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first "Conceptually I favor community based performance standards. initiated, the committee considered the different documents it Competent fire service leadership together with other interested had the authority to write and concluded that the development of groups can develop and evaluate deployment and response a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire standards that best fit a community. While I consider the service. The committee has proceeded to develop the performance standard for staffing as reasonable for most requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting suburban/urban communities, it is reasonable to allow document will strengthen the deployment of resources in alternative methodologies to be used to achieve desired communities protected by substantially all career fire outcomes. There is no empirical evidence to support the departments. Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time proposed standard." would change this document to a recommended practice or COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. guide and leave fire departments and the communities they COMMITTEE STATEMENT: After soliciting public input, the protect without a standard to provide clear direction for NFPA Standards Council authorized two separate projects, one to improvement of services. develop documents on the organizations, operation, deployment, and evaluation of substantially all career public fire protection ______and emergency medical services, the other on the organization, operation, deployment, and evaluation of substantially all volunteer public fire protection and emergency medical services. (Log #913) This committee was authorized to develop the requirements for 1710- 99 - (Entire Document): Reject the substantially all career public fire protection and emergency SUBMITTER: John P. McDonald, East Pierce Fire and Rescue medical services and does not have the authority to combine COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 these documents. RECOMMENDATION: Delete the standard in its entirety. SUBSTANTIATION: The proposed standard does not recognize ______the dependent connection of a community’s building and fire codes, its fire prevention programs and its emergency response resources in defining acceptable levels of fire protection. The (Log #911) relative levels of each of these and other protection components 1710- 98 - (Entire Document): Reject should be decided locally based upon available conditions and SUBMITTER: Wayne Waggoner, Tennessee Fire Code resources. Development Committee COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-561 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). In Chapters 2,3,4,5 delete "shall" and insert "should" in all locations. In Chapter 5, delete "mandatory" and insert ______"recommended" in Section 5.1. SUBSTANTIATION: The use of "shall" and "mandatory" are inconsistent with the scope and purpose stated in Chapter One. (Log #914) See 1.1.1, 1.2.1 and the definitions of "shall" and "should" in 1.3. 1710- 100 - (Entire Document): Reject The TFCDC representing the TFC TFSIA feels that there should SUBMITTER: Southern Regional Fire Code Dev. Committee be one standard for the deployment of fire service for all types of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-597 departments (name dept.). This standard should address the RECOMMENDATION: Delete the entire document. basic services provided by all fire department including SUBSTANTIATION: This is a tremendous unfunded mandate suppression, prevention, public education, EMS, code for all communities. enforcement, and special operations. This standard should Both NFPA 1710 and NFPA 1720 take away a local government's address what services fire department provide not how to provide ability to decide how to best deal with fire protection, depending them. This standard should serve as a series of benchmarks or on the local environment. Minimum manning standards, as goals for all communities to follow rather than a requirement. It expressed in the NFPA proposal, take away the ability of each is contrary to the political climate of our nation to dictate how local government to respond to local needs and conditions-which services are provided at the local level. In every aspect of our includes fire prevention and EMS-not just fire suppression. One society, decisions such as these are made at the local level. Once broad-brush mandate for all situations does not work and we are time elements are removed from both NFPA 1710 and 1720, the strongly opposed to an agency or association such as NFPA similarities between the two should allow the two standards be mandating yet another set of costly proposals, without regard and combined as one. Both NFPA 1710 and 1720, or as the TFCDC

297 NFPA 1710 — May 2001 ROC — Copyright 2001, NFPA deference to decision making of local elected officials and fire (Log #1279) chiefs. 1710- 103 - (Entire Document): Reject NFPA is assuming a legislative role that it has no authority for. SUBMITTER: William A. Jetter, Sycamore Township EMS & Fire Congress, state legislatures, OSHA and state labor agencies are Dept. the appropriate forums for this type of rule making, where a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 vehicle for public hearings can take place. RECOMMENDATION: These comments are in regard to the For your information, lots of American cities are dealing with NFPA 1710/1720 proposed standards. In general I have a severe financial constraints placed on them as a result of the philosophical problem with the NFPA getting into manning passage of Initiative 695, a measure passed by the people of standards for Fire Departments because of the vast number of Washington which takes away revenues and requires any new tax diverse departments in this nation. The NFPA has no business measures to be approved by the people. Such financial limitations getting involved in the local jurisdictional issues which are make it essential for each local government to make the most represented in the 1710/1720 proposals. I feel you have efficient use of its resources to provide the services and priorities overstepped your bounds. As a member of the NFPA as determined by their local elected officials. Many of our fire (Membership ID#000144922) I feel the sole purpose of the NFPA chiefs, and the Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs, have is to provide a working environment in the various areas of fire expressed technical concerns with the proposals, as indicated in prevention and fire safety. As a member I feel you are their comments, which have been submitted directly to you. misrepresenting this issue. This is not in the best interest of my COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. department or the community at large. This is not a dictatorship. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for I realize this is only a standard from the NFPA. However, in the Comment 1710-19 (Log #22). past these standards have been used against us in a court of law, thereby doing more damage than good. ______SUBSTANTIATION: I feel the NFPA is placing undue hardship on the community of Sycamore Township with this proposed action. You are creating not only funding issues, but future (Log #918) staffing issues that will impact the growth of this department. I 1710- 101 - (Entire Document): Reject realize these standards are meant to provide some resolution to SUBMITTER: Rick Ujelle, Snohomish County Fire Protection the problem of full time staffing, but if you look at the District 17 environment in certain parts of the country you will find there are COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 not enough qualified people available to work in our service. RECOMMENDATION: Delete 1710 in its entirety. Furthermore I object to these proposals and submit to you as a Delete the four minute response time requirement in 1710 member that the standards committee cease and desist in this 5.2.3.1.1. Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing minimums. area. I feel if the NFPA continues along this road with these SUBSTANTIATION: These standards are not fiscally obtainable standards you can expect to have some outside litigation in the for non-metro fire departments - of the 70 fire stations in future. Snohomish County, approximately half rely on from home I will be happy to sit and discuss this with you in committee volunteer response for apparatus staffing. form, however, my comments are pretty straightforward. Also, I COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. would like these comments to be counted separately from the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for compilation of responses to the 1710/1720 standards. I have an Comment 1710-2 (Log #17). individual voice and it should be heard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any recommended language for the committee to consider. (Log #1278) 1710- 102 - (Entire Document): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Ron McClain, Montecito Fire Protection District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #286) RECOMMENDATION: I have spent some time over the last few 1710- 104 - (Title): Reject days reviewing information on NFPA 1710. The reason for this SUBMITTER: Stephen Lich, Camano Island, Wa interest was to prepare to make comments on the proposed COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 standard for submittal to the committee. I had previously been RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: made aware of concerns other fire professionals had with the "Organization and Deployment of Fire Suppression, Emergency proposed standard. Medical Operations and Special Operations to the public by As the fire chief of a small fire district and as a member of the Career Metro Departments." Fire District Association of California, I had concerns over the SUBSTANTIATION: There is a vast difference between large response time criteria and staffing levels required by the present metropolitan cities and smaller communities in their 1) ability to proposal. (I confirmed the content of the proposal on your web finance emergency services; 2) volume of responses; and 3) page.) The general feeling among my peers is that NFPA population/risk densities. The proposed standard, if adopted, Standards, in reality can become requirements of general should only apply to metro departments as defined by the IAFC, acceptance and of regulatory agencies. with a population over 250,000. There are many fire agencies that cannot, and never will be able COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. to meet the proposed standard. The adoption of this standard as COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Committee's scope is to written, will create an absurd situation. address the "organization, operation, deployment, and evaluation So my intent was to make my comments on the prescribed of substantially all career public fire protection and emergency format. That is until I reviewed the committee report on your medical services," without discrimination by size of department. web page. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Here is the point of this letter. The (Log #292) committee report contains 90+ pages of comments submitted to 1710- 105 - (Title): Reject the committee in the prescribed manner. All, save a handful, SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services were rejected by the committee! Hundreds of fire service COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 professionals are being ignored by the committee which seems RECOMMENDATION: Add new text as follows: "hell bent" to move ahead with their agenda. NFPA 1710 Recommended Standard for the Organization and The words and actions of the present committee leadership are Deployment of Fire Suppression Operations, Emergency Medical examples of both elitism and arrogance. Operations, and Special Operations to the Public by Career Fire The proposed standards, as written, should be abandoned and a Departments. new committee formed to create a standard that is applicable to SUBSTANTIATION: The proposed standard establishes new the real world. administrative requirements, response time criteria, and manning COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. criteria. It also could impact combination fire departments who COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any are "substantially" career. Many rural and small fire departments recommended language for the committee to consider. will never be able to meet the standard due to area, population ______and funding limits. "Recommended" will allow us to comply with provisions we can meet. 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COMMITTEE STATEMENT: All standards are recommended. John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1012) The document is a minimum standard and the adoption or non- Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District adoption of this standard is decided by the authority having (Log #485) jurisdiction on the local level. Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #595) Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #611) ______Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #13) John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1095) Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection District 8 (Log #334) (Log #164) 1710- 106 - (Title): Reject Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1261) SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department Terrence N. Thomas, Walla Walla Fire Department (Log #977) Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #531) Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #413) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1028) Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #970) Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1175) (Log #1060) Tom Wells, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #1142) Paul L. Benson, Chino Valley Independent Fire District Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District (Log #1205) (Log #1090) Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #545) (Log #587) Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 Chuck Boggs, Jefferson County Fire Protection District #1 (Log #1229) (Log #963) Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #397) Doug Branch, Boring Fire District (Log #1111) Keith Yamane, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1036) Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #445) Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #933) James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1253) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 James Brooker, Mohawk Valley rural Fire District (Log #437) RECOMMENDATION: Revise title to read as follows: Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1/Rep. OFDDA "Organization and Deployment of Fire Suppression, Emergency President (Log #627) Medical Operations and Special Operations to the Public by John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #579) Career Metro Departments." John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #389) SUBSTANTIATION: This standard should only apply to Metro Don Chumley, Whatcom County Fire Dist. 4 (Log #634) Departments as defined by the International Fire Chiefs’ William H. Combs, Sutherlin, OR (Log #429) Association, with a population of 250,000 or more. James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #619) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #373) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1191) Comment 1710-104 (Log #286). Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety (Log #1183) ______Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #421) Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1245) Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #461) (Log #558) John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire And Ambulance Service 1710- 107 - (Title): Reject (Log #552) SUBMITTER: Roger Ferris, Washington Fire Commissioners Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection Association District #4 (Log #1269) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 710-599 Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #477) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Jeff Griffin, Oregon Fire Chiefs Association (Log #1126) "Organization and Deployment of Fire Suppression, Emergency Mike R. Hamel, Fire & Rescue District #1 (Log #220) Medical Operations and Special Operations to the Public by Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #453) Career Metro Departments." Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1213) This standard cannot be met by Rural Fire Districts and in turn Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 (Log #998) revenues cannot meet this unrealistic standard. Metro Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #405) departments have the necessary funds to implement and comply Casey Jones, Salem Fire Department (Log #208) with this standard. Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 SUBSTANTIATION: This standard should only apply to Metro (Log #1074) Departments as defined by the International Fire Chiefs’ Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1020) Association with a population of 250,000 or more. Population Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA base is a fair and equitable way to measure against this standard. (Log #381) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1063) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1134) Comment 1710-104 (Log #286). Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #983) ______Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs (Log #947) Michael McKinley, City of Bremerton (Log #1006) (Log #645) Chad E. Minter, Coburg Fire District (Log #211) 1710- 108 - (Title): Reject Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #469) SUBMITTER: Ron Harmon, North Highline Fire Department Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1221) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-559 Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 RECOMMENDATION: Organization and Deployment of Fire (Log #939) Suppression, Emergency Medical Operations and Special Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1150) Operations to the Public by Career Metro Departments. Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD (Log #282) SUBSTANTIATION: This standard should apply only to Metro Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1167) Departments as defined by the International Fire Chiefs’ Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #603) Association with a population of 250,000 or more. Standards for Terry Reed, City of Spokane (Log #991) staffing and response are unrealistic and unachievable for all Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District others. (Log #1237) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1118) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1159) Comment 1710-104 (Log #286). Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1103) Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1199) ______Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, (Log #1044) Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #493) Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #955)

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(Log #799) James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1251) 1710- 109 - (Title): Reject James Brooker, Mohawk Valley rural Fire District (Log #435) SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1/Rep. OFDDA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 President (Log #625) RECOMMENDATION: Revise title to read as follows: John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #577) "Organization and Deployment of Fire Suppression, Emergency John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #387) Medical Operations and Special Operations to the Public by William H. Combs, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #427) Career Metro Departments." James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #617) SUBSTANTIATION: This standard should only apply to Metro Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #371) departments as defined by the International Fire Chiefs’ George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1189) Association, with a population of 250,000 or more. If that’s not Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety feasible, it should specifically apply to only "fully paid (career)" (Log #1181) fire departments in a geographic area that reasonably could Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #419) comply, which will be very few areas. Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1243) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #459) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for J. W. Foster, Yelm Fire District (Log #1080) Comment 1710-104 (Log #286). Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #1275) ______Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #475) Jeff Griffin, Oregon Fire Chiefs Association (Log #1124) Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #451) (Log #668) Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1211) 1710- 110 - (1-1.1): Reject Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 (Log #996) SUBMITTER: Mel Sorensen, Mohave Valley Fire District Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #403) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Casey Jones, Salem Fire Department (Log #202) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 and special operations to the public by substantially all career (Log #1072) (Metro) fire departments (with a population 250,000 or more). Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1018) SUBSTANTIATION: I am not sure if the committee Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA understands the limitations of small fire districts to increase their (Log #379) budgets to accomplish the manning required to meet this Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1069) standard, as the cap for increasing your tax levy is regulated by the Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1132) state legislature and at a time when every new legislators goal is to Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 reduce taxes it makes it next to impossible to accomplish. (Log #981) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #945) Comment 1710-104 (Log #286). Michael McKinley, City of Bremerton (Log #1004) Chad E. Minter, Coburg Fire District (Log #217) ______Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #467) Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1219) Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #293) (Log #1267) 1710- 111 - (1-1.1): Reject Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1148) SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services Barry Owens, Lake Creek Fire (Log #1070) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD (Log #275) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1165) 1.1.1 This standard contains minimum recommended Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #601) requirements relating to ... [rest as printed] Roger K. Purdie, Vista Fire Department (Log #537) SUBSTANTIATION: By making this a recommended standard Terry Reed, City of Spokane (Log #989) (or practice) it would allow larger departments time to Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District implement changes to get into compliance. It would also give (Log #1235) small and/or rural areas an opportunity to comply with realistic Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1116) provisions they can meet based upon area, staffing, and fiscal Katianne Richins, /Rep. Aumsville Rural Fire District (Log #1156) resources available to them. Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1157) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Keith Richter, Contra Costa County Fire Protection Dist. (Log COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first #499) initiated, the committee considered the different documents it Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1101) had the authority to write and concluded that the development of Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1197) a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, service. The committee has proceeded to develop the (Log #1042) requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #491) document will strengthen the deployment of resources in Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #953) communities protected by substantially all career fire John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1010) departments. Changing this document to a recommended Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District practice or guide at this time would leave fire departments and (Log #483) the communities they protect without a standard to provide clear Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #593) direction for improvement of services. Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #609) John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1093) ______Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection District 8 (Log #170) (Log #332) Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1259) 1710- 112 - (1-1.1): Reject Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #411) SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #968) Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #529) Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1173) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1026) Tom Wells, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #1140) Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District (Log #1054) (Log #1091) Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #543) (Log #585) Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 Chuck Boggs, Jefferson County Fire Protection District #1 (Log #1227) (Log #961) Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #395) Doug Branch, Boring Fire District (Log #1109) Keith Yamane, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1034) Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #443) Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #931)

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COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first "This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the initiated, the committee considered the different documents it organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency had the authority to write and concluded that the development of medical operations and special operations to the public by a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire (substantially) ( all ) career fire departments." service. The committee has proceeded to develop the SUBSTANTIATION: The change is made to clear up ambiguity requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting that is caused by the word substantially and to assure that the document will strengthen the deployment of resources in definition of Member does not create further confusion in communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. calculating a ration between career and volunteer. Changing this document to a recommended practice or guide at COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. this time would leave fire departments and the communities they COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement protect without a standard to provide clear direction for Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). improvement of services. ______(Log #357) 1710- 113 - (1-1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 (Log #678) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 116 - (1-1.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: Frank Ortiz, Santa Department "This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 organization and deployment of fire suppression operations, RECOMMENDATION: "The standard contains minimum emergency medical operations, and special operations to the recommended requirements relating to organization and public by the substantially all career fire department that does not deployment of fire suppression, emergency medical operations, have a current designation as an accredited agency by the and special operations to the public by substantially all career Commission on Fire Accreditation International, CFAI, or other departments." recognized accreditation agency." SUBSTANTIATION: As a recommended practice; this standard SUBSTANTIATION: will assist a community in exercising their right of local control CFAI accreditation is all encompassing with regards to organization and deployment of fire department and ongoing. An accredited agency is required to do annual resources. reviews in order to maintain accredited status. Any agency that is COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. accredited has demonstrated that it’s elected and appointed COMMITTEE STATEMENT: officials have addressed all of the issues that NFPA 1710-2001 See Committee Statement for attempts to address. This standard ought to exempt such an Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). agency. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). (Log #701) 1710- 117 - (1-1.1): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-13 (Log #560) RECOMMENDATION 1710- 114 - (1-1.1): Reject : Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire and Ambulance " This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the Service organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 medical services, and special operations to the public by RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: substantially all career "metro" fire departments serving a "This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the population of 250,000 or greater organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency SUBSTANTIATION: This would provide appropriate standards medical operations and special operations to the public by for metro departments and would be achievable. All other (substantially) (all) career fire departments." departments could operate under 1720 with appropriate word SUBSTANTIATION: The change is made to clear up ambiguity additions. Under 1720 all other departments would be required that is caused by the word substantially and to assure that the to plan and identify appropriate standard based on local needs definition of member does not create further confusion in related to the risks and desired levels of services for their specific calculating a ration between career and volunteer, paid-on-call, Fire and Life Safety Environment reserve or other team used in describing someone other than a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. full-time, career fire fighter. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). ______(Log #748) 1710- 118 - (1-1.1): Reject (Log #655) SUBMITTER: Richard Curtis, Anacortes Fire Department 1710- 115 - (1-1.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Safety KCFD #43 This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 organization and deployment of fire suppression operations, RECOMMENDATION: Revise 1.1.1 as follows: emergency medical operations, and special operations to the This standard contains minimum requirements recommended public by substantially all career fire departments , including guidelines related to the organization and deployment of fire combination fire departments. suppression operation, emergency medical operations and SUBSTANTIATION: The term "substantially all career" is vague special operations to the public by substantially all career fire and difficult to determine if this standard applies to agencies who departments. have part paid personnel and part volunteer personnel. Throughout: replace mandatory requirement language with COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. recommendations. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBSTANTIATION: The committee has proposed a standard Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). that is impossible to comply with in at least 90% of all fire departments that can be considered "substantially career". It is ______logically inconsistent to propose as a "minimum" standard, that which is clearly not possible in most fire departments. Mandatory language is not appropriate.

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(Log #761) (Log #834) 1710- 119 - (1-1.1): Reject 1710- 123 - (1-1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue SUBMITTER: Marcus Kragness, City of Botheu COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Change minimum to recommended . ... operations to the public by substantially all career fire SUBSTANTIATION: This would be an excellent document if it departments entirely career departments. established the requirements as a worthy goal rather than a SUBSTANTIATION: As proposed for a minimum standard, minimum requirement. only the entirely career departments, or even metro departments, COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. can hope to achieve the service levels described herein. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). ______(Log #864) 1710- 124 - (1-1.1): Reject (Log #794) SUBMITTER: Robert B. Rehr, City of Delray Beach Fire Rescue 1710- 120 - (1-1.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Terry Ollis, Everett Fire Department RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 "This standard contains minimum recommended requirements RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: relating to the organization and deployment..." This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the SUBSTANTIATION: The appropriate responsibility for organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency requirements relating to organization and deployment lies with medical services, and special operations to the public by the authority having jurisdiction, which is the policy makers of the substantially all career "metro" fire departments serving a community. The 1710 standard should be a recommendation population of 250,000 or greater. document. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: This would provide appropriate standards COMMITTEE STATEMENT: for metro departments and would be achievable. All other See Committee Statement for departments could operate under 1720 with appropriate word Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). additions. Under 1720 all other departments would be required to plan and identify appropriate standard based on local needs ______related to the risks and desired levels of services for their specific Fire and Life Safety Environment. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #897) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: 1710- 125 - (1-1.1): Reject See Committee Statement for SUBMITTER: James D. Spiegel, Countryside Fire Protection Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: 1.1.1 This standard contains minimum requirements relating to (Log #796) the organization and deployment of fire suppression operations, 1710- 121 - (1-1.1): Reject emergency medical operations, and special operations to the SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department public by substantially all career fire departments. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-500 (1.1.1.1 Substantially all career fire department is defined as: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: a. 90 percent or greater career staffed "This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the b. 90 percent or greater career and contract staffed organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency c. 90 percent or greater career, contract and civilian staffed medical operations and special operations to the public by (all) 1.1.1.2 Combination fire departments with greater than 90 ("every fully") career fire department(s). percent career, contract, civilian staffing qualify under this SUBSTANTIATION: The word substantially is ambiguous and standard. creates instant debate. This standard should clearly be for "fully 1.1.1.3 Fire departments that do not qualify under this standard career" and/or Metro departments only. automatically qualify under the standard of NFPA 1720, COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Organization and Deployment of Fire Suppression Operations, Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). Emergency Medical Operations, and Special Operations to the Public by Volunteer Fire Departments). ______SUBSTANTIATION: The 1710 Scope identifies the standard as applicable to "substantially all career departments." This is poorly defined as it leaves the reader to make a determination of (Log #818) "substantially", (considerably, significantly, largely, to a large 1710- 122 - (1-1.1): Reject extent). A percentage of personnel, (75 percent or greater/90 SUBMITTER: Allison Duke, III, Bremerton Fire Dept. percent or greater) would leave the reader with a clear COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-13 understanding of this sentence. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: As the Deputy Chief of an internationally accredited fire agency "This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the (Commission on Fire Accreditation International) and organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency accredited EMS agency (Commission on Accreditation of medical services, and special operations to the public by Ambulance Services), one of only two fire agencies in the United States having achieved this, we provide services using a variety of substantially all career "metro" fire departments serving a personnel staffing options. The fire district is a combination population of 250,000 or greater." department comprised of full-time career, full-time contract, full- SUBSTANTIATION: This proposed language would provide time civilian, and part-time (paid on call) members. The appropriate standards for larger departments that have the substantially all career department definition/qualifier leaves no financial resources to make this achievable. All other clear direction for the reader of the standard to determine if the departments could operate under 1720 that would be required to standard applies. plan and identify appropriate standard based on local needs I request the NFPA 1710 committee members consider my fire related to the risks and desired levels of services for their specific district as a test case/example and identify which is the locality. appropriate standard, 1710 or 1720. Here is the current COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. breakdown of our staffing. Over the last decade the district has COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for been hiring more full-time members and less part-time. If not Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). applicable today, at what point in the future will 1710 become applicable to my fire district? ______

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Employment Classification Count Percent (substantially all career fire departments) (Category A and Full-time Career Firemedics (line) 30 42% Category B Fire Departments). Full-time Contract Firemedics (line) 11 15% Add: (Fire Department, Category A: Metropolitan Fire Department with a minimum authorized strength of 400 fully paid Full-time Civilian (staff) 5 7% career firefighters). Part-time/Paid on Call Fire Fighters (line) 20 28% Add: (Fire Department, Category B: Substantially all career fire Part-time Civilian (Trustees & Commissioners) 6 8% departments with less than a minimum authorized strength of 400 All Personnel/Members 72 100% fully paid firefighters). 1-3 Definitions: Using line personnel, the district is comprised of 67 percent "Chief Officer. A member where rank is above that of a career. Using all personnel employed, the district is comprised company officer, who responds automatically or is dispatched to of 64 percent career. If the staffing is based on the percentage of an alarm beyond the initial attack capabilities, or other special time spent, "On Duty" as defined being in the building and part calls. (This person may be someone appointed in an acting of a response company, then the career percent will jump to over capacity). The purpose..." 90 percent. Our part-time fire fighters spend evenings and nights Rapid Intervention Team (RIT). (A dedicated team of four (4) in the station as a part of the "On Duty" companies. personnel who are assigned to rescue trapped or lost members. The committee can clear this confusing issue by clarifying or They report directly to the Incident Commander or Operations defining the phrase, "substantially all career fire departments" Chief. This dedicated team is not to be confused with the HRT). either in the text of the standard or within an attached (As defined by NFPA 1500 6-5, Rapid Intervention for Rescue addendum. members, 1997 edition). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The additions, revised text and deletions COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for provide flexibility to local jurisdictions to use equipment and Comment 1710-115 (Log #675). staffing in a manner that meets the original intent of staffing guidelines. Restructuring wording to "engine" or "ladder ______company" versus "company" makes a major difference in resource distribution. Category of a class "A" or class "B" department versus a (Log #907) "substantially all career" gives clearer meaning and, again, 1710- 126 - (1-1.1): Reject promotes flexibility for judgment in distribution of resources. SUBMITTER: Wayne Waggoner, Tennessee Fire Code COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Development Committee COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The scope of this document COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-4 covering career fire departments utilizing the words "substantially RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: all" was directed by the Standards Council, without 1.1* Scope discrimination by size of department. The document does not 1.1.1 This standard contains minimum requirements relating to have a definition for "Rapid Intervention Team (RIT)" so the the organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency committee could not accommodate the submitter. The use of a medical operations and special operations to the public by Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC) is consistent with NFPA 1500. substantially (fully Paid) all career fire departments. Compliance with NFPA 1500 is required in this document at 6.1. SUBSTANTIATION: The change is made to clear up ambiguity (See also Committee Statement for 1710-79 (Log #675). that is caused by the word substantially and to assure that the definition of Member does to create further confusion in ______calculating a ration between career and volunteer. Substantially cannot be used in code manual style for NFPA document 2.2.2.1. There is no guidance for the AHJ to use when trying to determine (Log #837) if a fire department is a combination department while reviewing 1710- 129 - (1-1.2): Accept in Principle 1720. How do we substantiate substantially, is it 51%, 66%, or SUBMITTER: Marcus Kragness, City of Botheu what? The committee uses the word substantially in the scope and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the manual of Style states that substantially is not to be used in the RECOMMENDATION: Delete outcomes. development of Code or Standards. SUBSTANTIATION: There are absolutely no outcomes COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. identified in this proposed standard so it makes no sense to COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for allude to such in this section. Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. Replace the word "outcomes" with "objectives". ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees with the submitter; however, it believes that the word "objectives" more clearly address the scope of the standard. (Log #1281) 1710- 127 - (1-1.1): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Marcus Reed, Aloha, OR COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: (Log #294) "This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the 1710- 130 - (1-1.3): Reject organization and deployment of fire suppression operations, SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services emergency medical operations; and special operations to the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 public by (delete) substantially all career fire departments RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: (insert) large urban career fire departments. "This standard also contains minimum recommended SUBSTANTIATION: As I read this standard it only applies to requirements for managing resources and systems, such as health the larger urban fire departments. and safety, incident management, training, communications, and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. pre-incident planning." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBSTANTIATION: Inserts recommended into last applicable Comment 1710-79 (Log #675). area of Chapter 1. Also see comment on Section 1.1.1. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-115 (Log #655).

(Log #314) ______1710- 128 - (1-1.1, 1-3): Reject SUBMITTER: James Grigsby, Roanoke Fire-EMS Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1-1.1 This standard contains minimum requirements relating to the organization and deployment of fire suppression, emergency medical operations and special operations to the public by

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(Log #835) Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #460) 1710- 131 - (1-1.3): Reject J. W. Foster, Yelm Fire District (Log #1081) SUBMITTER: Marcus Kragness, City of Botheu John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire And Ambulance Service COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #551) RECOMMENDATION: Change minimum to recommended . Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection SUBSTANTIATION: This would be an excellent document if it District #4 (Log #1268) established the requirements as a worthy goal rather than a Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #476) minimum requirement. Jeff Griffin, Oregon Fire Chiefs Association (Log #1125) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #452) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1212) Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 (Log #997) Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #404) ______Casey Jones, Salem Fire Department (Log #203) Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 (Log #1073) (Log #358) Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1019) 1710- 132 - (1-1.5): Accept Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 (Log #380) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1068) RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1133) "This standard does not address fire prevention, community Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 education, fire investigation, support services, personnel (Log #982) management, and budgeting." Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs SUBSTANTIATION: This standard references fire prevention, (Log #946) investigation, support services. There is no need for a statement Michael McKinley, City of Bremerton (Log #1005) such as this and, if included, presents a false impression. Chad E. Minter, Coburg Fire District (Log #216) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #468) Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1220) ______Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #938) Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1149) (Log #85) Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD (Log #276) 1710- 133 - (1-1.6): Reject Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1166) SUBMITTER: Craig Miller, Honeywell FM&T Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #602) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-83 Roger K. Purdie, Vista Fire Department (Log #538) RECOMMENDATION: Insert new text under Section 1.1 Scope Terry Reed, City of Spokane (Log #990) to read as follows: Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District "1.1.6 This standard does not apply to industrial fire brigades (Log #1236) that do not respond to emergencies occurring off-site. This Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1117) standard does apply to industrial fire brigades that do respond to Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1158) Keith Richter, Contra Costa County Fire Protection Dist. emergencies occurring off-site." (Log #500) SUBSTANTIATION: Some AHJ’s may attempt to apply this Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1102) standard to industrial fire brigades that do not respond to off-site Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1198) emergencies. Industrial brigades which are privately funded and Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, respond only to on-site emergencies should be allowed to (Log #1043) establish their own response capability and staffing levels. The Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #492) added text clarifies the scope of the standard. Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #954) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1011) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee believes that the Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District scope is clear under Section 1.1.1. (Log #484) Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #594) ______Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #610) Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #8) John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1094) (Log #333) Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection District 8 1710- 134 - (1-2.1): Reject (Log #169) SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1260) Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #530) Terrence N. Thomas, Walla Walla Fire Department (Log #976) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1027) Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #412) Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #969) (Log #1055) Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1174) Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 Tom Wells, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #1141) (Log #586) Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District Chuck Boggs, Jefferson County Fire Protection District #1 (Log #1086) (Log #962) Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #544) Doug Branch, Boring Fire District (Log #1110) Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #444) (Log #1228) James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1252) Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #396) James Brooker, Mohawk Valley Rural Fire District (Log #436) Keith Yamane, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1035) Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1/Rep. OFDDA Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #932) President (Log #626) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #578) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #388) "The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum criteria Don Chumley, Whatcom County Fire Dist. 4 (Log #633) addressing, the effectiveness and efficiency as determined by William H. Combs, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #428) James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #618) scientific study, of the all career public fire suppression, David D. Curtis, Central Yavapai Fire District (Log #1050) emergency medical service, and special operations delivery in Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #372) protecting the public of the jurisdiction and the occupational George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1190) safety and health of the fire department employees." Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety SUBSTANTIATION: The basis for this standard must be (Log #1182) reasoned and a result of scientific study. Effectiveness and Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #420) efficiency can be determined by fire loss records and time on the Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1244) scene. Occupational safety and health status of fire department

304 NFPA 1710 — May 2001 ROC — Copyright 2001, NFPA employees can be compared to other agencies. Making an (Log #742) assumption that more people increase effectiveness, efficiency 1710- 137 - (1-2.1): Reject and safety needs to be supported by empirical accepted data. SUBMITTER: Scott W. Kenley, City of Lodi Adding the word all maintains consistency with the scope of this COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-391 standard. RECOMMENDATION: None. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The committee’s Statement identifies COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The standard was based on scientific study, experience and data as included in A.1.2.1 as scientific study, experience and data. Support of the purpose substantiating the proposed minimum standards. I will agree that statement, including scientific and medical studies as well as fire the information contained in the appendix is scientific data, risk, is included in Annex A. however it is my belief that the data is not being applied in an objective manner. The table contained in A.5.2.1.2.1 does show ______that if a fire progresses beyond the room of origin, there is more severity of circumstances. One could deduce from that that if personnel arrive in time to hold the fire to the room of origin, the (Log #570) severity of the damage would be reduced and lives would be 1710- 135 - (1-2.1): Reject saved. However, an evaluation of the data with respect to whether SUBMITTER: Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. or not an engine company was within a four minute response to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 those fires that extended beyond the room of origin would be RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: required before this data could be considered to validate the "The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum criteria minimum standard. If, in a majority of the situations where the addressing the effectiveness and efficiency of the career public fire fire was either confined to the floor of origin or beyond the floor suppression, emergency medical service, and special operations of origin, the closest engine was within the minimum standard delivery in protecting the public of the jurisdiction and the and had a minimum number of personnel assigned as set forth in occupational safety and health of fire department employees for the standard then the data would not support the standard. local governments to determine the effectiveness and efficiency in Because, the closeness of the engine and number of personnel addressing levels of risk within a community through the use of had no effect on the outcome. If this is the norm, no amount of scientific study. Such a study needs to fully provide for the personnel or engines will stop a fire that has extended beyond the room of origin prior to the arrival of the first arriving unit. The occupational health and safety of fire department employees reality is that in the field, it all depends on when the fire is while meeting minimum standards for providing for the locally discovered and how soon it is reported. Typically, large fires are acceptable level of service for Fire Suppression, Fire and EMS significantly large prior to the initial report of alarm. Therefore, Prevention, Emergency Medical and Special Operations we are writing a standard that will make us feel good and get Response. some individuals off our back, but there will be no significant SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following change in the outcome of our fires. comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not specify any and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be language for consideration by the committee. generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk levels based on community hazards and scientific information ______such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire (Log #791) and life safety circumstances. 1710- 138 - (1-2.1): Reject The basis for this standard must be a reasoned scientific study SUBMITTER: Terry Ollis, Everett Fire Department that enables local government to determine the level of resources COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 needed based on an analysis of local/regional fire and life safety RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: risk within their community, the communities acceptable of risk The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum criteria as determined by the citizens and fully addressing the health and addressing the effectiveness and efficiency of the career public fire safety of fire department employees. There is more than one suppression, emergency medical service, and special operations combination of staffing, offsetting levels of risks, and protection delivery in protecting the public of the jurisdiction and the of fire department employees for the diverse communities across occupational safety and health of fire department employees for the United States. The standard and minimum criteria need to local governments to determine the effectiveness and efficiency in be based on empirical data methods that allow a local addressing levels of risk within a community through the use of government the ability to determine their acceptable level of scientific study. Such a study needs to fully provide for the service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing occupational health and safety of fire department employees for fire department employee’s health and safety. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. while meeting minimum standards for providing for the locally COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for acceptable level of service for Fire Suppression, Fire and EMS Comment 1710-134 (Log #333). Prevention, Emergency Medical and Special Operations Response. ______SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience (Log #654) and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be 1710- 136 - (1-2.1): Reject generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk SUBMITTER: Cotton Cole, South Carolina State Association of levels based on community hazards and scientific information Fire Chiefs such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 and life safety circumstances. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: The basis for this standard must be a reasoned scientific study The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum that enables local government to determine the level of resources recommended criteria addressing the effectiveness and efficiency needed based on an analysis of local/regional fire and life safety of the career public fire suppression operations. risk within their community, the communities acceptable of risk SUBSTANTIATION: While every fire chief would like to be able as determined by the citizens and fully addressing the health and to meet all of the proposed minimum standards, smaller safety of fire department employees. There is more than one jurisdictions with limited tax bases and other funding road blocks combination of staffing, offsetting levels of risks, and protection cannot meet these standards in full, which would add more of fire department employees for the diverse communities across liability by not meeting established levels of service. If changed to the United States. The standard and minimum criteria need to be recommended, everyone could strive for that level. based on empirical data methods that allow a local government COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. the ability to determine their acceptable level of service and risk COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for as long as they balance it by properly providing for fire Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). department employee’s health and safety. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-134 (Log #333). ______

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(Log #797) (Log #1277) 1710- 139 - (1-2.1): Reject 1710- 143 - (1-2.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department SUBMITTER: Robert B. Rehr, City of Delray Beach Fire Rescue COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum criteria "The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum addressing the effectiveness and efficiency as determined by recommended criteria..." scientific study, of (the all) (every fully career public fire SUBSTANTIATION: The appropriate responsibility for suppression, emergency medical service, and special operations requirements concerning minimum criteria addressing the delivery in protecting the public of the jurisdiction and the effectiveness and efficiency of career public fire departments lies occupational safety and health of the fire department employees." with the local authority having jurisdiction, which is the policy SUBSTANTIATION: This standard must be based on accepted makers and the community. Home rule should prevail. empirical data. Adding the words "every fully" clarifies the scope COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. of this standard. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter is attempting to ______modify and delete language that does not exist in 1.2.1. See also Committee Statement for 1710-134 (Log #333). (Log #694) 1710- 144 - (1-2.2): Hold ______SUBMITTER: Michael McKinley, City of Bremerton COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: New text as follows: (Log #801) Jurisdictions that adopt and enforce NFPA 1 with an 1710- 140 - (1-2.1): Reject accompanying residential sprinkler ordinance for all new SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. residences may adopt staffing levels and response times for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 structural fire response that differ from this standard. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA was formed in 1896 to develop "The purpose of this standard is to specify the minimum sprinkler standards. Keeping with the core history of the recommended criteria addressing the effectiveness and efficiency organization this section would allow jurisdictions to transfer the of the career public fire suppression, emergency medical service, costs of protection to the homeowners and owners of structures and special operations delivery in protecting the public of the within the jurisdiction. If a community would rather employ jurisdiction and the occupational safety and health of fire additional staff to meet the standard they could elect to follow the department employees." main body of the standard. SUBSTANTIATION: As detailed in the draft appendix text, COMMITTEE ACTION: Hold. Section A-2-1.1, "The governing body has the right and should COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This is new material that requires assert its authority to set the specific services and the limits of further study. The committee does believe that when all services the fire department will provide...". By establishing occupancies in a jurisdiction are 100 percent compliant with minimum requirements rather than minimum recommendations, NFPA 1, fire suppression organization and deployment criteria it appears that the right of the governing body is trying to be taken should be readdressed. away. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that (Log #800) such language is not needed, and feels that the current text is 1710- 145 - (1-2.2): Reject sufficient. The annex language is added as informational and SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. explanatory. Annex language is not mandatory text. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: ______"Nothing herein is intended to restrict any jurisdiction from exceeding these minimum requirements. SUBSTANTIATION: As detailed in the draft appendix text, (Log #822) Section A-2-1.1, "The governing body has the right and should 1710- 141 - (1-2.1): Reject assert its authority to set the specific services and the limits of SUBMITTER: Duane M. Malo, Washington State Assn. of Fire services the fire department will provide...". By establishing Chiefs minimum requirements rather than minimum recommendations, COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 it appears that the right of the governing body is trying to be taken RECOMMENDATION: Delete "and the occupational safety an away. health of fire department employees" COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: As stated by the chair of 1710 on many COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for occasions this is not a firefighter safety document, but a protect Comment 1710-140 (Log #801). "Mrs. Smith" document. NFPA 1500 is the firefighter safety ______document and nothing in this document deals with fire fighter safety except by reference to other NFPA documents. 1710 and (Log #774) 1720 must equally provide the highest level of firefighter safety. 1710- 146 - (1-3): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Robert Barnard, Olympia, WA COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Organization and deployment COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 necessarily addresses safety of employees, and the request to use RECOMMENDATION: Add new text as follows: NFPA 1500 is in Chapter 6. Authority having jurisdiction shall be permitted to approve an equivalent level of response criteria based on an organizational ______statement addressing community economic capacity, community need. SUBSTANTIATION: Current proposal does not allow for (Log #836) jurisdiction issues controlled by geographic and demographic 1710- 142 - (1-2.1): Reject factors including population density and urban, suburban, rural SUBMITTER: Marcus Kragness, City of Botheu and wilderness classifications. Other NFPA standards e.g. NFPA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1500 allow for equivalencies. RECOMMENDATION: Change minimum to recommended . COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: This would be an excellent document if it COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire established the requirements as a worthy goal rather than a department service levels and time requirements are a critical minimum requirement. component of a deployment standard for "substantially all" career COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction may establish COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for more stringent requirements. This is a minimum standard. Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). ______

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(Log #359) (Log #118) 1710- 147 - (Chapter 2): Reject 1710- 151 - (3-1.8(f) Company): Accept in Principle SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Add to the list of publication RECOMMENDATION: Delete 3.1.8(f). Commission on Fire Accreditation International Manual. SUBSTANTIATION: Under 3.1.8(c) and 3.1.8(d) the term SUBSTANTIATION: CFAI Accreditation Manual is an all "usually" is used in describing what a company is. Under what inclusive document that should be used to assist any fire agency circumstances would it be allowed to have multiple apparatus in developing a deployment plan/policy. It should be a respond and still be considered a "company"? referenced document in this standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Comment 1710-156 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Commission of Fire (Log #CC3) for editorial style change Accreditation International Manual is not referenced in the standard and therefore is not referenced in Chapter 2. However, ______the Fire Department Self-Assessment Manual is referenced in Annex B.1.2.3 (Log #679) ______1710- 152 - (3-1.8(f) Company): Reject SUBMITTER: John Koenig, Manchester Fire, Rescue, EMS COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #522) RECOMMENDATION: New text as follows: 1710- 148 - (3-1.8(a) Company): Reject Refer to A.3.1.8 Company. SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection SUBSTANTIATION: This will clear the misunderstanding that District any company may be comprised of more than 1 piece of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 apparatus. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "Under the direct supervision of an officer or person acting in COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The asterisk following the the position of an officer." paragraph number 3.1.8 indicates that there is Annex material. SUBSTANTIATION: A fire department unit may not always have See notice between standard title and Chapter 1. an officer on board. It could be an engineer or senior firefighter. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee believes that all companies must be lead by an officer. See definition of an officer (3.1.29.1) and accompanying annex text. (Log #762) 1710- 153 - (3-1.8(f) Company): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: (Log #200) ... apparatus that are dispatched and arrive together and 1710- 149 - (3-1.8(d) Company): Reject continuously operate together and are managed by a single SUBMITTER: Patrick J. Kenny, Village of Hinsdale company officer. together, operate and are managed by a single COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 company officer on scene. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: The critical performance element is the "Usually operating with one piece of fire apparatus (engine, crew functions at the scene. It does not matter if the resources ladder truck, elevating platform, quint, rescue, squad, arrive from different stations, as long as they arrive within the time ambulance." line, and function as a unit on the scene. SUBSTANTIATION: If an ambulance is included in this COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. definition it will necessitate an officer (See 5.2.1.2.2). In our COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees that the protocol, an officer dedicated to this role would require an current language is clear. See Committee Comment 1710-156 upgrade in EMS training to paramedic and numerous (Log #CC3) for editorial style change. unnecessary promotions. These promotions would only be utilized in this limited scenario and not for other day to day ______functions. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees that the (Log #839) current language is clear. See Committee Comment 1710-156 1710- 154 - (3-1.8(f) Company): Reject (Log #CC3) for editorial style change SUBMITTER: Brian D. Johnson, International Association of Fire Chiefs ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 RECOMMENDATION: Revise definition to read as follows: "Company configurations shall be permitted to allow for (Log #642) multiple apparatus that are dispatched and arrive together and 1710- 150 - (3-1.8(d) Company): Reject continuously operate together and are managed by a single SUBMITTER: Gary Olson, Lynnwood Fire Department company officer together, operate and are managed by a single COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-259 company officer on scene. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: The utilization of on-scene resources "A company may consist of two units with one company officer. under the supervision of a company officer is the critical This maybe of any configuration as identified by the AHJ." performance-based component justifying this change. SUBSTANTIATION: There may be task force assignments that Submitted change will also provide departments the ability to relies on two units working together under one company officer, successfully assemble the draft standard’s requisite resources at ie, and engine company with a hose wagon, and engine with a the scene to meet the 8-minute response guideline for a full alarm truck company etc. assignment in the event the 4-minute initial company response is COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. not achieved. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees that the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. current language is clear. See Committee Comment 1710-156 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees that the (Log #CC3) for editorial style change current language is clear. See Committee Comment 1710-156 (Log #CC3) for editorial style change. ______

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(Log #922) (Log #76) 1710- 155 - (3-1.8(f) Company): Reject 1710- 159 - (3-1.32 Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC)): Accept in SUBMITTER: Dean R. Shank, Central Kitsap Fire Rescue Principle COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Definitions RECOMMENDATION: Revise definition to read as follows: 3.1.8(f) Company "Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC). A dedicated crew of Company configurations shall be permitted to allow for multiple firefighters who are assigned to account for and trapped and/ apparatus that are dispatched and arrive together and or lost members." continuously operate together and are managed by a single SUBSTANTIATION: This is an editorial change only. company officer. together, operate and are managed by a single COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. company officer on scene. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on SUBSTANTIATION: The utilization of on-scene resources Comment 1710-158 (Log #802). under the supervision of a company officer is the critical performance-based component justifying this change. ______Submitted change will also provide departments the ability to successfully assemble the draft standard’s requisite resources at the scene to meet the 8-minute response guideline for a full alarm (Log #870) assignment in the event the 4-minute initial company response is 1710- 160 - (3-1.36 Staff Aide): Accept not achieved. SUBMITTER: Mario D. Rueda, Los Angeles Fire Department, COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. CA COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee believes that the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 current language is clear. See committee comment 1710-156 (Log RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: #CC3) for editorial style change "A firefighter or fire officer assigned to a supervisory Chief ______Officer to assist with logistical, tactical, and accountability functions of incident, Division or sector command. (Log #CC3) SUBSTANTIATION: Adding the accountability component to 1710- 156 - (3-1.8(f) Company): Accept the duties more accurately describes the critical need for this SUBMITTER: Technical Committee on Fire and Emergency individual. Service Organization and Deployment - Career COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete 3.1.8 (f). Change 3.1.8 (d) to ______read: Operating with one piece of fire apparatus (engine, ladder truck, elevating platform, quint, rescue, squad, ambulance) except where multiple apparatus are assigned that are dispatched (Log #883) and arrive together, are continuously operated together, and are 1710- 161 - (3-1.41.2 Call Processing Time): Reject managed by a single company officer. SUBMITTER: Jon R. Brown, Willamette Valley Communications SUBSTANTIATION: The language was changed to be in Center 911 accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style, which does not allow COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements in a definition. RECOMMENDATION: Eliminate current language and add the COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. following: "Tone Time. Time at which the dispatcher has received the call ______from the call taker and toned out (alerted/dispatched) the appropriate units based on predetermined information." (Log #361) SUBSTANTIATION: Call processing time can be a matter of 1710- 157 - (3-1.28 Member): Reject seconds or minutes. What time element is critical is phone to SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 tone. Where sufficient information has been gathered to start COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 units in that direction. Basic info for any emergency call is: 1) RECOMMENDATION: Revise definition to read as follows: location, 2) what is happening, 3) status such as NOW/JUST "Member. A person involved in performing the duties of fire OCCURRED/LATE, 4) are there any injuries suppression operations, emergency medical service operations, YES/POSSIBLE/NO. and special operations and responsibilities of a fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. department under the auspices of the organization. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Tone time is not a term included SUBSTANTIATION: Chapter 1 identifies and limits the scope of in the standard. Dispatch times are addressed in NFPA 1221, the proposed standard. By defining member in this standard as Standard for the Installation, Maintenance, and Use of Emergency all inclusive it will further "cloud" the interpretation of Services Communication Systems, which this standard references. "substantially all". The phrase "under the auspices" of is unnecessary to convey the intentions of this section. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Current definition is consistent with other NFPA standards and the committee believes that it is (Log #884) clear. 1710- 162 - (3-1.41.3 Dispatch Time): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Jon R. Brown, Willamette Valley Communications Center 911 (Log #802) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 158 - (3-1.32 Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC)): Accept in RECOMMENDATION: Delete totally. Principle SUBSTANTIATION: This paragraph can be deleted. By using SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. 3.1.41.1 Time of Call, 2.1.41.2 Tone Time and 3.1.41.4 Response COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Time, any agency will be able to track the critical times needed to RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: establish a performance standard for phone to tone and tone to "Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC). A dedicated crew of fire response. fighters who is assigned to account for and trapped or lost COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. members." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBSTANTIATION: There appears to be an "and" that is not Comment 1710-161 (Log #883). necessary. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. ______Change the Rapid Intervention Crew definition to read: "A dedicated crew of fire fighters who are assigned for rapid deployment to rescue lost or trapped members." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Language clarifies function of a rapid intervention crew. ______

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(Log #882) SUBSTANTIATION: This language more accurately reflects the 1710- 163 - (3-1.41.4 Alarm Time): Reject definition of response time, separating "reaction time" of the SUBMITTER: Jon R. Brown, Willamette Valley Communications crews from notification to responding. Center 911 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on RECOMMENDATION: Revise definition to read as follows: Comment 1710-168 (Log #841). "Alarm Time. Time of Call. The point of receipt of the emergency alarm at the public safety answering point where ______sufficient information is known to the Call Taker to send the emergency call to the appropriate dispatcher to deploy the (Log #841) applicable units to the emergency." 1710- 168 - (3-1.41.4 Response Time): Accept SUBSTANTIATION: SUBMITTER: Brian D. Johnson, International Association of This paragraph defines the initial receipt Fire Chiefs of the emergency phone call. A call taker is the appropriate term COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 used for the person receiving that call based on a national RECOMMENDATION recognized APCD standard. : Revise definition to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "Response Time. The time that begins when units are notified COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for and ends with the arrival at the scene of an emergency incident Comment 1710-161 (Log #883). en-route to the emergency incident and ends when units arrive at the scene." ______SUBSTANTIATION: Segmenting turnout time and response time allows for collection of data that will assist departments in (Log #232) determining those areas that meet time objectives. The ability to 1710- 164 - (3-1.41.4 Response Time): Reject quantify, separately between turnout time and response time, SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 provides information to change facilities or procedures in COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 personnel turnout, while independent response data will provide RECOMMENDATION: Revise definition of to read as follows: fire department with specific data for AHJ in making station Response Time: The total time elapsed that includes call placement, standards of coverage and response access decisions. processing time, dispatch time, turn-out time and travel time. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: SUBSTANTIATION: This is a term that the public recognizes as Also see comment 1710-173 (Log# the total time from the initial 911 call until the unit arrives at the 843) for new text defining Turnout Time. scene. Technically oriented fire personnel recognize that within this time span, a number of activities take place. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: (Log #923) See Committee Action on 1710-168 1710- 169 - (3-1.41.4 Response Time): Accept in Part (Log #841). SUBMITTER: Dean R. Shank, Central Kitsap Fire Rescue COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: 3.1.41.4 Response Time (Log #561) The time that begins when units are notified and ends with the 1710- 165 - (3-1.41.4 Response Time): Reject arrival at the scene of an emergency incident. en-route to the SUBMITTER: Keith MacIsaac, Wheeling Fire Department emergency incident and ends when units arrive at the scene. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 A.3.1.41.4 Response Time (Annex) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows; Response time includes turnout of apparatus and personnel, "The time begins when units are notified (upon receipt of the and travel time response and travel time of apparatus and emergency alarm) and ends with the arrival at the scene of an personnel to the emergency incident. emergency incident." SUBSTANTIATION: Segmenting turnout time and response SUBSTANTIATION: Proposed change more accurately reflects time allows for collection of data that will assist departments in the entire emergency response process. determining those areas that meet time objectives. The ability COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. quantify, separately between turnout time and response time, COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on provides information to change facilities or procedures in Comment 1710-168 (Log #841). personnel turnout, while independent response data will provide fire department with specific data for AHJ in making station ______placement, standards of coverage and response access decisions. Clarifies annex language to meet the intent of comment submitted under 3.1.41.4. (Log #765) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Part. 1710- 166 - (3-1.41.4 Response Time): Accept in Principle Accept the change to 3-1.41.4 and delete the Annex. SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Annex is no longer required. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: . . . when units are notified and ends with the arrival of the (Log #230) scene of an emergency incident. enroute to the emergency 1710- 170 - (3-1.41.5 Turnout Time (New): Accept in Principle incident and ends when units arrive at the scene. SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 SUBSTANTIATION: Separating turnout time from travel time COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 allows for much more accurate data collection. RECOMMENDATION: Include new definition to read as COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on Turn-out Time: The time that begins when units are notified Comment 1710-168 (Log #841). and ends when units are en-route. SUBSTANTIATION: When units are notified, there is a reaction ______time factor of responders. These individuals must move to their apparatus, don the appropriate equipment, mount their (Log #777) apparatus, start the engine and pull out of the facility. This is 1710- 167 - (3-1.41.4 Response Time): Reject generally accepted to be a sixty second procedure, but in certain SUBMITTER: Don Bivins, Vancouver Fire Dept. circumstances can fluctuate. This evolution is a separate and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 distinct function that is not, nor should be, part of the calculated RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: travel time. 3.1.41.4 The time that begins when units are notified and ends COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. with the arrival at the scene of an emergency incident. The time COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on that begins when the dispatcher is notified that dispatched units Comment 1710-173 (Log #843). are responding and ends with the arrival at the scene of an emergency incident. ______

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(Log #763) (2) Any contract, service agreement, governmental agreement or 1710- 171 - (3-1.41.5 Turnout Time (New): Accept in Principle memorandum of understanding between the authority having SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue jurisdiction and the other agency or private organization COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Segmenting turnout time and response RECOMMENDATION: New text as follows: time allows for collection of data that will assist departments in The time beginning when units receive notification of the determining those areas that meet time objectives. The ability emergency to the beginning point of response time. quantify, separately between turnout time and response time, SUBSTANTIATION: Separating turnout time form travel time provides information to change facilities or procedures in allows for much more accurate data collection. personnel turnout, while independent response data will provide COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. fire department with specific data for AHJ in making station COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on placement, standards of coverage and response access decisions. Comment 1710-173 (Log #843). Current text only stipulates inserting requirement in fire ______department’s organizational statement and fails to place criteria (Log #231) within legal binding documents between AHJ and the other 1710- 172 - (3-1.41.5 Travel Time (New): Accept in Principle agency/organization providing the service. SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Committee has addressed the RECOMMENDATION: Include new definitionto read as follows: submitter’s comments on turnout time, see Committee Action on Travel Time: the time that begins when units are en-route and Comment 1710-173 (Log #843), and the committee is accepting ends with the arrival at the scene of an emergency incident. text regarding Emergency Medical Services. See Committee SUBSTANTIATION: Travel times can be calculated from point Action on Comment 1710-276 (Log #844). to point and physically substantiated. By separating "Response ______Time (see 3.1.41.4 comment) from Travel Time" liability exposure can be reduced for jurisdictions faced with litigation (Log #37) based upon an untimely response. 1710- 175 - (Chapter 4): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Committee has changed the Safety definition of response time to encompass the time frame the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 submitter is referencing. See Committee Action on Comment RECOMMENDATION: In all subsections of 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, 1710-168 (Log #841) and Comment 1710-173 (Log #843). 4.7. 4.8; add a phrase to acknowledge that each organization will ______determine whether or not that service will be provided, and to what level. The current language assumes that all fire (Log #843) departments will also provide the other listed services. 1710- 173 - (3-1.41.5 Turnout Time (New): Accept in Principle SUBSTANTIATION: See A.4.1.1. NFPA should not dictate or SUBMITTER: Brian D. Johnson, International Association of impose a standard set of service expectations on all service Fire Chiefs providers. In many rural communities the fire department does COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 not respond to EMS incidents at all, and that service is by a "third RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: service" provider or not available. A local option. Turnout Time. The time beginning when units acknowledge COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. notification of the emergency to the beginning point of response COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The organization statement, time. The time objective for turnout time shall be one-minute Section 4.1, addresses the requirements from the AHJ to establish a policy on types and levels of services provided by the fire (60 seconds). department. If the service is provided by some other agency or SUBSTANTIATION: Same as substantiation for comment jurisdiction then the citizen needs to know who provides that submitted to 3.1.41.4 Response Time which is reprinted below. service, if the fire department does not. Segmenting turnout time and response time allows for ______collection of data that will assist departments in determining those areas that meet time objectives. The ability to quantify, (Log #825) separately between turnout time and response time, provides 1710- 176 - (Chapter 4): Reject information to change facilities or procedures in personnel SUBMITTER: Duane M. Malo, Washington State Assn. of Fire turnout, while independent response data will provide fire Chiefs department with specific data for AHJ in making station COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 placement, standards of coverage and response access decisions. RECOMMENDATION: Delete Chapter 4 of 1710 and insert COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. Chapter 4 of 1720. Keep first sentence. Move second sentence to 4.1.3.1.1 as (1) and SUBSTANTIATION: Proposed Chapter 4 of 1720 takes a more renumber the three following sentences. Delete the word professional approach to these issues and requires the fire fire response from the first sentence of 4.1.3.1.1. department to do an analysis of their true organizational needs, COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Committee separated the based on their risks. The proposed language in Chapter 4 of 1710 submitter's comment since it cannot be in the definition section. takes a weak-sighted "one-size fits all" approach that can be used ______by administrators that either cannot or chose not to do the correct analysis for their jurisdictions. The proposed language in (Log #924) Chapter 4 of 1710 has the potential to actually negatively impact 1710- 174 - (3-1.41.5 Turnout Time (New): Accept in Principle the level of service to "Mrs. Smith" as departments reallocate SUBMITTER: Dean R. Shank, Central Kitsap Fire Rescue organizational recourses that are not based on need. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: New text to be inserted: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 3.1.41.5 Turnout Time minimum requirements for fire department services, including The time beginning when units acknowledge notification of the staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a emergency to the beginning point of response time. The time document addressing fire department deployment and objective for turnout time shall be one-minute (60 seconds). organization. Chapter 4 of NFPA 1710 is preferred to Chapter 4 Revise text as follows: of 1720 because the coverage of organization, operations, and 4.3.2.1 Emergency Medical Services deployment of 1710 is more definitive for career departments Where emergency medical services beyond the first responder compared to NFPA 1720’s emphasis on volunteer departments. level with automatic defibrillator level are provided by another See also Committee Statement for Comment 1710-175 (Log #37). agency or private organization, the authority having jurisdiction ______shall include in the organizational statement the minimum staffing, deployment, and response time criteria as required in (Log #295) Section 5.3 based on recommendations from the fire 1710- 177 - (Chapters 4, 5, and 6): Reject department. , based upon recommendations from the fire SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services department, shall include the minimum staffing, deployment and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 response criteria as required in Section 5.3 in : RECOMMENDATION: Delete shall and insert should in all (1) The fire department organizational statement paragraphs.

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SUBSTANTIATION: This will bring permissive language into (Log #119) the chapter text to comply with a recommended practice. 1710- 181 - (4-1.2): Accept in Principle COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Comment 1710-98 (Log #911). RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The fire department shall provide the applicable prevention, ______public education, and emergency response programs related to fire suppression emergency medical service (EMS), special operations, and incident recovery. The fire department shall (Log #743) deploy these systems during applicable deployed operations 1710- 178 - (Chapters 4 and 5): Reject incidents." SUBMITTER: Russ Pritchard, North Highline Fire Department SUBSTANTIATION: If a fire department has responded to an COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 emergency incident it is too late for prevention and education. RECOMMENDATION: The 4 minute response time is "Incidents" is a little more concise than "deployed operations". unrealistic - this will establish an expectation that is COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. unreasonable. Delete 4.1.2 Chapter 5 is unreasonable in terms of staffing except possibly for COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This paragraph is no longer large metro departments - delete. germane to the standard, see also Committee Action on SUBSTANTIATION: Who would fund those changes? The Comment 1710-132 (Log #358). document is unreasonable. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). (Log #740) ______1710- 182 - (4-1.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Scott W. Kenley, City of Lodi COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #648) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: 1710- 179 - (4-1.1): Reject Related to fire suppression, emergency medical services (EMS), SUBMITTER: Allen Church, Federal Way Fire Dept., WA special operations COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: This section sets a standard that all career RECOMMENDATION: The authority having jurisdiction shall fire departments must provide emergency medical services. Some maintain a written statement or policy that establishes the departments do not provide EMS. Each AHJ must have the following standards for the local fire department to strive for, flexibility to determine level of service as stated in 4.1.1. utilizing the NFPA 1710 as a guideline: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: My rationale for this proposed revision is COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on to maintain local control for the authority having jurisdiction over Comment 1710-181 (Log #119). their fire department. The NFPA 1710 should be utilized as a guideline, but should in no way remove the local control and ______public input towards the establishment of standards for their local fire service. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #776) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for 1710- 183 - (4-1.2): Reject Comment 1710-115 (Log #655). SUBMITTER: Don Bivins, Vancouver Fire Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: 4.1.2 the fire department shall provide the applicable (Log #682) prevention, public eduction, and emergency response programs 1710- 180 - (4-1.1(4) and (5)): Reject related to fire suppression ,emergency medical services (EMS), SUBMITTER: Donna P. Brehm, Virginia Beach Fire Department special operations, and incident recovery. If the authority having COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 jurisdiction determines that additional services are to be RECOMMENDATION: Delete (4) Expected number of fire provided, such additional services shall comply with this department members, and (5) Functions that fire department standard. The fire department shall deploy these systems during members are expected to perform applicable deployed operations. SUBSTANTIATION: These two requirements for inclusion in SUBSTANTIATION: The fire department is mandated to the AHJ written statement go far beyond that normally required provide fire suppression, but not additional services. If the AHJ for legal establishment of a fire department. Codes and determines that the fire department shall provide these additional ordinances designed for such purposes are rarely so specific and services, it shall do so within this standard. are very cumbersome to change and update. Number of members COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and specific functions of members belongs at the organization COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on statement-implementation level where such statements can be Comment 1710-181 (Log #119). modified and remain flexible to accurately represent the current situation/needs of the department. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the fire department organizational statement or written policy shall (Log #828) include the expected number of fire department members and 1710- 184 - (4-1.2): Reject functions of those members which is critical to a deployment SUBMITTER: Tim Marrocco, Bloomingdale Fire Protection standard for career fire departments. The annex to this District No. 1 paragraph provides explanatory text. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: ______"The fire department shall provide programs for the services the fire department is required to provide." SUBSTANTIATION: This follows 4.1.1.(2) and is less complicated to read. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. See Committee Action taken on Public Comment 1710- (Log#119). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on Comment 1710-181 (Log#119). ______

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(Log #928) (Log #78) 1710- 185 - (4-1.3): Reject 1710- 188 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Gregg A. Cleveland, Marshfield Fire and Rescue SUBMITTER: L. Charles Smeby, Jr., FL State Fire College COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire section 4.1.3* and move to RECOMMENDATION: Change to read as follows: appendix. (1) Five minutes (300 seconds) or less for the arrival of the SUBSTANTIATION: Response times to incidents are first arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident commensurate with the funding allocated by the governing bodies and/or 10 minutes (600 seconds) or less for the deployment of of local communities or fire districts. This standard does not take full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. into consideration of a community’s ability to raise tax dollars in (2) Five minutes (300 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit order to determine levels of service. One community may have a with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency higher percentage of tax-exempt properties and thus is at an medical incident. economic disadvantage. Levels of service should not be dictated. SUBSTANTIATION: Since the proposed 1710 is written in terms Additionally, response times will vary greatly depending on of maximum response time, the equivalent average response time terrain, station coverage and the presence of properties would be three minutes and 20 seconds. Averages are made up of containing built in fire protection (e.g. fire alarm systems, observations from a range of responses. Some short, some long sprinkler systems, and smoke detector systems). Guidelines can with the majority near the middle or the average. The proposed be offered to communities through publication of this in the four minute response time would have a substantial adverse appendix of this document. financial impact on this nation’s existing fire/rescue agencies. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Since most of the measurements of response time deployment at COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire the present time use "average" response time, to determine the department service delivery objective requirements are a critical impact, you need to use the three minute 20 seconds as the component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. proposed standard and compare it with studies such as the 1998 ______Phoenix Fire Department Survey Results. Therefore, the actual impact would be as follows: Only 20.3% of the fire departments surveyed would be able to (Log #36) meet the proposed four minute standard. Also, since each 1710- 186 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject department reported its "average" response time, there will no SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life doubt be many stations that have to be relocated in all cities. This Safety is a result of the the common historical reality that fire stations in COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 older cities are closely spaced in the older downtown areas as RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: opposed [to] newer developed areas. "The fire department shall establish approved the following If the response time standard is changed to 5 minutes, then 53.8% of the fire departments surveyed would be able to comply. response time objectives . of:" (Delete all following) This seems like a more realistic benchmark and goal for the SUBSTANTIATION: See A.4.1.1. Response time objectives future. must be established by the authority having jurisdiction and not Some additional observation: FYI, the NFPA Fire Protection set in the text. The response area of each jurisdiction will have a Handbook, 18th edition, in Chapter 10-2 states the following: "It major impact on acceptable response time criteria. The is generally considered that the first-arriving piece of apparatus standard, as written, would require fire stations in areas to meet a should be at the emergency scene within 5 minutes of sounding time standard that cannot be funded or staffed. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. the alarm..." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: FYI, reference FIremaster John Jameson, Strathclyde Fire The committee concluded that fire Brigade-Glasgow, Scotland as reported in the June 1997 issue of department service delivery objective requirements are a critical "The Times-NFPA Fire Service Section Newsletter," he reports component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. that the UK Fire Service standard for "Time of One Pump ______[engine company]" for congested urban areas is 5 minutes. FYI, from a DRAFT of the DoD Fire and Emergency Services Program, the following deployment criteria is listed "The first (Log #68) arriving structural apparatus shall arrive within five minutes to 80 1710- 187 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject percent of all structural alarms, and remaining units shall arrive SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department within 20 minutes to 80 percent of all alarms". COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 FYI, from "200-City Survey, EMS trends in America’s most RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: populous cities," JEMS, February 2000, the following is stated (1) Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the "The most frequently reported response time performance goal first arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident [first responder] is five minutes ..." and/or 8 minutes (480 seconds) or less for the deployment of a FYI, The American Heart Association reports that "In Seattle, full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. the average time to defibrillation is less seven minutes , resulting SUBSTANTIATION: To include both "and" and "or" gives two in a survival rate for VF of almost 30%." They use this study and meanings. The Committee should determine what they are trying its results to justify their "Chain of Survival" program. This is the to accomplish and rewrite the paragraph. In its current form, it is only hard data they reference (ref. "Cardiac Arrest and the Need impossible to evaluate. for Early Defibrillation, When Every Second Counts," America COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Heart Association, 1998) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that If the five minute proposal is accepted, then the maximum time the requirements of this section are clear and the words "and/or" for the first alarm assignment must be changed to match the do not have two meanings. The intent of this service delivery spatial pattern of this response time. requirement is to have fire department plan and situate their Finally, the proposed four minute response time for "first resources to consistently meet a 4-minute initial company fire responder" (subparagraph (2)) could be changed to an average suppression response and an 8-minute full alarm fire response of seven minutes based on the Seattle study. But, I believe that assignment. However, the committee has always recognized that this response time should be the same as fire responses since while on some occasions (for example, a company is out-of- both services will be provided by the same company. service for training) the initial company response may not be met PS. Also, change 5.2.3.2.1 and 5.3.3.4.2. in the 4-minute requirement, but the 8-minute criterion must COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. always be met. Thus the words "and/or" are appropriate in this COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that requirement. See Committee Comment 1710-642 (Log #CC1). four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical component of the deployment standard for career fire ______departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comment 1710-168 (Log #841) and Comment 1710-173 (Log #843). ______

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(Log #88) (Log #155) 1710- 189 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject 1710- 193 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection District 8 District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read: "The fire department shall establish the following response "The fire department shall establish the following response time objectives of: [add a period]" time objectives of: [add a period]" Delete all text of items (1), (2) and (3)." Delete all text of items (1), (2) and (3). SUBSTANTIATION: Response time objectives should be SUBSTANTIATION: Response time objectives should be established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that minimum fire department service levels and minimum time minimum fire department service levels and minimum time requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction may establish more stringent requirements may establish more stringent requirements ______

(Log #103) (Log #198) 1710- 190 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject 1710- 194 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Arthur Getchman, Thurston County Fire SUBMITTER: Patrick J. Kenny, Village of Hinsdale Protection District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise 8 minutes or less for full alarm RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read: assignment to 12 minutes. "The fire department shall establish the following response SUBSTANTIATION: For departments in our area we rely time objectives of: [add a period]" heavily on mutual response. While I agree with the full alarm Delete all text items (1), (2) and (3). total staffing, we cannot get all the personnel there in 8 minutes. SUBSTANTIATION: Response time objectives should be We would need 10-12 in order to reach the 90 percent benchmark established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. in Section 4.1.3.1.2. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that minimum fire department service levels and minimum time four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard component of the deployment standard for career fire for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comment 1710-168 may establish more stringent requirements (Log #841) and Comment 1710-173 (Log #843). ______(Log #223) (Log #116) 1710- 195 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject 1710- 191 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire District # 7 Protection District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: "The fire department shall establish the following response "This response would be to ensure that a [add: the] time objectives of: [add a period] and delete all text of items minimum of four [add: approved number] of personnel are (1), (2) and (3)." assigned to and deployed as a company." SUBSTANTIATION: Response time objectives should be SUBSTANTIATION: Response time objectives should be established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter recommends to minimum fire department service levels and minimum time modify language that does not exist in this section of the requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard document. for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction may establish more stringent requirements ______(Log #233) (Log #121) 1710- 196 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject 1710- 192 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Move this section to Annex A 4.1.3.1.1 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: Section 4.1.3.1 states that the AHJ shall "The fire department shall establish the following response include specific response times objectives for each major service time objectives of: for the first arriving engine company at a fire component. The response time objectives may vary depending suppression incident and/or for the deployment of a full first upon geography and abilities of each jurisdiction. 4.1.3.1.1 is alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident." appropriate in the annex, but conflicts with the statutory SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be left up to authority of AHJ and would present significant liability exposure the authority having jurisdiction and/or the local government. to jurisdictions if applied across the board if included in the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. standard itself. Furthermore this section will surely be a point of COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that litigation if adopted as written. A litigation will tie up this minimum fire department service levels and minimum time standard for a number of years. requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The purpose of the Annex is to may establish more stringent requirements provide explanatory text. The committee concluded that four- minute and eight-minute time requirements are a critical ______component of the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comment 1710-168 (Log #841) and Comment 1710-173 (Log #843). ______

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(Log #252) reached within the time frames established by the committee. In 1710- 197 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject many situations the governing authority has made the decision SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire that it not cost effective to locate stations and equipment to serve Protection District # 7 an area of the jurisdiction that is rather isolated and serves a very COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 limited number of facilities. This is a decision that cannot be RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read: controlled by the fire department. The department may well "The fire department shall establish the following response provide service to those areas, however, the response times time objectives of: . Delete all text of items (1), (2) and (3)." established by an NFPA committee simply cannot be met. Rather SUBSTANTIATION: Response time objectives should be than having an NFPA "standard", setting response times, the established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. standard should state that the department must establish response COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. time objectives that are approved by the governing body. The COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that requirement should also recognize that the times may need to be minimum fire department service levels and minimum time established by districts or areas. If the committee feels it needs to requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard establish response times, it should do so as recommendations in for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction an appendix notes. The committee’s response time objectives if may establish more stringent requirements adopted as part of a "standard" may well result in unrealistic liability situations for fire departments and governing authorities ______in jurisdictions where the committee’s objectives simply cannot be realistically met. Keep in mind that people served by fire departments are usually fully aware of response time limitations. (Log #265) People often construct homes in areas of the jurisdiction that are 1710- 198 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject remote from many community services. This standard must SUBMITTER: Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection provide for a variety of conditions and not establish criteria that District #7 may result in situations that can harm a fire department and/or COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the governing authority. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "The fire department shall establish the following response COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that time objectives of: . Delete all text of items (1), (2) and (3)." minimum fire department service levels and minimum time SUBSTANTIATION: Response time objectives should be requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. may establish more stringent requirements COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that minimum fire department service levels and minimum time ______requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction may establish more stringent requirements (Log #296) 1710- 201 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Inserting should will provide a (Log #268) response time goal/objective that can be met by metropolitan, 1710- 199 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject large, and medium sized career fire departments. Rural and small SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire departments that cover large areas can work toward meeting these Protection District #7 objectives as population and funding allows. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: My district covers a population of RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read: approximately 20,000 in an area of 2,200 square miles. We do this "The fire department shall establish the following response with four stations and a paid staff of 22 personnel. We are unable time objectives of: . Delete all text of items (1), (2) and (3)." to meet these response objectives now and will probably not be SUBSTANTIATION: able to do so for many years. Response time objectives should be COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. established by the Authority Having Jurisdiction. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. The document is a minimum COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that standard. Mandatory text is consistent with the scope of the minimum fire department service levels and minimum time standard. requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard ______for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction (Log #322) may establish more stringent requirements 1710- 202 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of 4-1.3.1.1: (Log #287) The fire department shall establish response time objectives for: 1710- 200 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject 1) Arrival of the first engine company at a fire suppression SUBMITTER: George M. Lanier, Rome Fire Dept., GA incident COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 2) Assembly of a full first alarm assignment at a structure fire RECOMMENDATION incident : Revise 4.1.3.1.1 to read as follows: 3) Arrival of a unit with first responder or higher level The fire department shall establish the following response capability at an emergency medical incident time objectives for the jurisdiction as a whole or for service 4) Arrival of a unit with advanced life support capability at an districts or areas as established by the department with the emergency medical incident, where this service is provided by the approval of the governing authority. fire department. Place the original provisions of 4.1.3.1.1 in an appendix note SUBSTANTIATION: The authority having jurisdiction should having the opening statement as follows: have the ability to establish response time objectives based on A 4.1.3.1.1 The following are recommended response time local circumstances and resources. The proposed objectives objectives for consideration by the fire department and the appear to be reasonable for an urban area, however they are governing authority. It is recognized that local conditions must be unrealistic for many suburban and rural areas, even where they considered when establishing response time objectives that are are protected by fully career crews. Specific response time realistic and reasonable. recommendations should be moved to the Appendix. SUBSTANTIATION: If the committee insists on including specific response time First, there are "career" fire departments objectives as mandatory requirements, they should be limited to that are far less efficient and effective than "volunteer" areas with a population density higher than 4000 per square mile. departments in many jurisdictions. Establishing response time COMMITTEE ACTION: objectives for "career" and not "volunteer" departments is simply Reject. not justified. 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COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that to increase response time averages if included. Changes in listed minimum fire department service levels and minimum time times from four minutes to six minutes, and from eight minutes requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard to ten minutes respectively, are necessary to insure compliance by for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction ‘average’ departments. may establish more stringent requirements The Gastonia Fire Department prides itself on rapid response, and we know from data collected during participation in the Fire ______Service Accreditation project that we are only able to place the first company on the scene in less than five minutes 80 percent of the time. Few (if any) fire departments in the nation could meet (Log #342) the response time standard listed in the draft proposal, and it 1710- 203 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject should be changed to be more realistic and actually achievable. SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical Two minutes (120 seconds) or less for dispatch of units from component of the deployment standard for career fire time emergency call first initiated. departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- SUBSTANTIATION: If we are to be accountable for any portion (Log #841) and 1710- (Log #843). The time requirements are of the time to get to an emergency, it is absolutely necessary that directed to emergency response and do not include service calls all times be accounted for. Otherwise a department that is and other non-emergency responses. meeting the 4 minute times with 5 minute dispatch times (total 9 minute responses) would be within standard, while the ______department with great dispatching of 30 seconds and 4 and 1/2 minute responses (total 5 minutes) would not meet the standard. If you want a fair standard, make it fair. (Log #562) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 206 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Dispatch times are addressed in SUBMITTER: Keith MacIsaac, Wheeling Fire Department NFPA 1221, Standard for the Installation, Maintenance, and Use COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 of Emergency Services Communication Systems, Section 4.3, that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: this standard references. "(1) Four (Five) minutes (240 seconds (300 seconds)..." "(2) Four (Five) minutes (240 seconds (300 seconds)..." ______SUBSTANTIATION: Proposed change reflects the modification of "response time" to be measured from the receipt of the alarm until the arrival of the first emergency units on the scene. (Log #362) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 204 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 four-minute time requirement is a critical component of the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- "The fire department shall have an adopted Standard of 173 (Log #843). Coverage policy that clearly identifies the level of service provided to its citizens. The Standard of Coverage document shall meet ______the minimum requirements of CFAI accreditation and include performance measures." A fire department that has not adopted (Log #576) a Standard of Coverage document The fire departments shall 1710- 207 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject establish the following response time objectives of..." SUBMITTER: Ralph Webster, Woodstock Fire/Rescue District SUBSTANTIATION: Adoption of a Standard of Coverage COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document as required by CFAI provides an element of local RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: control and oversight that is absent this proposal. Development 4.1.3.1.1 The fire department shall establish the following of a Standard of Coverage document requires risk analysis using response time objectives of: the most current scientific principles and practices and provides (1) Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the clear public disclosure of the level of service offered in a first arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident jurisdiction. and/or 8 minutes (480 seconds) or less for the deployment of a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Fire Service Accreditation (2) Four-minute (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit managed by CFAI is not a deployment standard, but an internal with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency self-evaluation of a fire department. The committee concluded medical incident. that minimum fire department service levels and minimum time (3) 8 minutes (480 seconds) or less for the arrival of an requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard advanced life support unit an emergency medical incident, where for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction this service is provided by the fire department. may establish more stringent or additional accreditation SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria may be possible in an urban requirements. setting, but may be impossible in a suburban or rural setting depending on the density of population. Given that some fire ______departments are located inside of a village or town, but are responsible for protecting a large rural area surrounding the town, it may be physically impossible for the units to reach the (Log #506) outer edges of their response area in the same specified even 80 1710- 205 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject percent of the time, while at the same time, financially SUBMITTER: Robert L. Ridgeway, Gastonia Fire Dept. irresponsible for them to build enough stations to meet this COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 criteria. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: I’m a little uncertain about exactly how this could work, but was "The fire department shall establish the following response time consideration given to having the time requirements based on objectives of : density of population? Or, was consideration given to a less (1) four minutes (240 seconds) six minutes (360 seconds) or percentage to account for the calls that would happen in the less for the arrival of the first arriving engine company at an outlying areas of a suburban/rural setting? emergency incident and/or 8 minutes (480 seconds) ten COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minutes (600 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that alarm assignment at an (emergency) fire suppression incident. minimum fire department service levels and minimum time (2) Four minutes (240 seconds) six minutes (360 seconds) or requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard less for the arrival of a unit with first responder or higher level for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction capability at an emergency medical incident. may establish more stringent requirements SUBSTANTIATION: Addition of the word "emergency" will insure data collected pertains to actual emergency incidents, thus ______eliminating service calls and other non-emergency calls that tend

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(Log #656) (Log #716) 1710- 208 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject 1710- 212 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life SUBMITTER: Frank Peep, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety Safety KCFD #43 District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: In section 4.1.3.1.1 replace the specific RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: response time numbers proposed with "(local AHJ standard)". The Fire Department authority having jurisdiction shall Replace any specific response time objectives throughout the establish the following response time objectives of for proposed document with "(local AHJ standard)". SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having SUBSTANTIATION: All specific objectives are appropriate for jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times determination by the AHJ. The proposed standard would set a within their financial and resource limitations and as required travel time standard of 3 minutes; and in a perfect road grid that and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. will be a travel distance of 1.5 miles at 30 mph, and a station COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. service area of 4.5 sq. mi. for each 4 person crew. That staff level COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that is unreasonable in almost all areas, and not a "minimum" as minimum fire department service levels and minimum time stated in 1.1.1 (Scope). requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that may establish more stringent requirements minimum fire department service levels and minimum time requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard ______for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction may establish more stringent requirements ______(Log #723) 1710- 213 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject (Log #686) SUBMITTER: Clint Olson, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety 1710- 209 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject District SUBMITTER: John Corbly, City of Champaign Fire Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall should The Fire Department authority having jurisdiction shall establish the following response time objectives. establish the following response time objectives of for SUBSTANTIATION: The City of Champaign adopted a 4.5 SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having minute travel time for the arrival of the first engine company to jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times 90% of the city. Our station deployments are based on this. A within their financial and resource limitations and as required more stringent mandatory requirement could result in increased and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. expenditures with very little added value. The wording must leave COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. some flexibility to the local jurisdiction. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum fire department service levels and minimum time COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard Comment 1710-98 (Log #911). for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction may establish more stringent requirements ______(Log #705) 1710- 210 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject (Log #727) SUBMITTER: Roy Bleikamp, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety 1710- 214 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject District SUBMITTER: David Callon, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 District RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 The Fire Department authority having jurisdiction shall RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: establish the following response time objectives of for The Fire Department authority having jurisdiction shall SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having establish the following response time objectives of for jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having within their financial and resource limitations and as required jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. within their financial and resource limitations and as required COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum fire department service levels and minimum time COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard minimum fire department service levels and minimum time for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard may establish more stringent requirements for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction ______may establish more stringent requirements (Log #709) ______1710- 211 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Steve Smith, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety (Log #739) District 1710- 215 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Scott W. Kenley, City of Lodi RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 The Fire Department authority having jurisdiction shall RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: establish the following response time objectives of for The fire department shall use the following guidelines in SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having establishing establish the following response time objectives jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times of : within their financial and resource limitations and as required SUBSTANTIATION: In Section 4.1.1 the standard charges the and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. AHJ with establishing level of services, 4.1.3.1.1 takes that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. responsibility away and sets minimum standards for them. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum fire department service levels and minimum time COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard minimum fire department service levels and minimum time for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard may establish more stringent requirements for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction ______may establish more stringent requirements ______

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(Log #759) "The fire department shall may establish the following 1710- 216 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject response time objectives of:..." SUBMITTER: Dennis E. Mason, Clark County Fire Chiefs Assoc SUBSTANTIATION: Our ability to achieve a 4 minute response COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 90 percent of the time is not a possibility for this 100 square mile RECOMMENDATION: Delete 4.1.3.1.1 in its entirety urban interface fire district. Should 4 minutes be a requirement, SUBSTANTIATION: The preceding section (4.1.3.1) allows our liability can and will be challenged in court. each AHJ to establish its own response time objectives based on COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. community needs, demographics, natural and man-made COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for boundaries, etc. Comment 1710-98 (Log #911). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary ______for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety in a document addressing career fire department deployment. (Log #857) ______1710- 221 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Scott W. Kenley, City of Lodi COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #780) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710- 217 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject "The fire department shall use the following guidelines in SUBMITTER: Don Bivins, Vancouver Fire Dept. establishing establish the following response time objectives COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 of :..." RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: In Section 4.1.1 the standard charges the (1) Four minutes (240 seconds) Six minutes (360) or less for AHJ with establishing level of services 4.1.3.1.1 takes that the arrival of the first arriving engine company at a fire responsibility away and sets minimum standards for them. suppression incident and/or 8 minutes (480 seconds) or less for COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. the deployment of a full first alarm assignment at a fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for suppression incident. Comment 1710-98 (Log #911). (2) Four minutes (240 seconds) Six minutes (360 seconds) or less . . . ______SUBSTANTIATION: This response time is more attainable and appropriate for a minimum standard than the times in the ROP. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #862) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that 1710- 222 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical SUBMITTER: Robert B. Rehr, City of Delray Beach Fire Rescue component of the deployment standard for career fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 168 (Log # 841) and 1710-173 (Log # 843). "The fire department shall should establish response time objectives based on local conditions." ______(Delete the mandatory time objectives and provide recommended objectives.) SUBSTANTIATION: (Log #786) The local jurisdiction is the responsible 1710- 218 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject entity to establish response times. Only the local AHJ is SUBMITTER: Steve Trackwell, Federal Way Fire Department adequately familiar with local conditions that affect response and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 clearly understands the needs of the community. NFPA should RECOMMENDATION make recommendations that can reasonably be achieved. : Revise text as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Four minutes (240 seconds) Six to eight minutes (360-480 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for seconds) or less for the arrival of the first arriving engine Comment 1710-98 (Log #911). company. SUBSTANTIATION: 4 minutes as defined for response times is ______not achievable - set a realistic achievable standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that (Log #887) four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical 1710- 223 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject component of the deployment standard for career fire SUBMITTER: Doug Williams, Rincon Valley Fire Protection departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- District 168 (Log # 841) and 1710-173 (Log # 843). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The fire department shall establish the following response time (Log #815) objectives (where population densities so warrant) of:" 1710- 219 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: It is not practical for communities with a SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. low population density (and minimal tax base) to meet the same COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 standards as in a highly urban environment. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "The fire department should shall establish the following COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Committee's scope was to response time objectives of:..." address the fire department's organization and deployment SUBSTANTIATION: While the time objectives may be capability where the services are delivered by "substantially all" desirable, the response time objectives are the decision of the career fire fighters without discrimination by size of department governmental body. This document should be providing or population density. recommendations only. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-98 (Log #911). (Log #888) ______1710- 224 - (4-1.3.1.1): Hold SUBMITTER: Jeff Johnson, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue (Log #838) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 220 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: Timothy E. Fike, Nevada County Consolidated 4.1.3.1.1 The fire department shall establish the following Fire Dist. response time objective of: zones and associated response time COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 objectives. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows:

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(1) Urban: Four minutes (240 seconds) Five minutes (300 International (CFAI) on behalf of the International Association seconds) or less for the arriving engine company at a fire of Fire Chiefs and the International City Managers Association. suppression incident and/or 8 10 minutes (480 seconds) Accreditation takes a broader view of a fire service organization. (600 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first alarm With respect to response performance, the CFAI process requires a comprehensive evaluation of the organization’s assignment at a fire suppression incident. resource deployment, community hazard base, and identification Five minutes (300 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit with of effective response forces for various types of emergencies, all first responder or higher level of capability at an emergency embodied in an officially adopted "Standards of Coverage" (SOC) medical incident. document. The SOC represents the organization’s "commitment" (2) Suburban: Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the to the Level of service it provides to its community. It must be arrival of a unit with first responder of higher level capability at an analytically based, standing on verifiable performance data. emergency medical incident Ten minutes or less for the arrival Moreover, it must be adopted by the governing body of the of the first responding engine company at a fire suppression jurisdiction. incident and/or 15 minutes (900 seconds) or less for the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. deployment of a full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Fire Service Accreditation managed by CFAI is not a deployment standard, but an internal incident. self-evaluation of a fire department. The committee concluded Ten minutes (600 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit with that fire department service levels and time requirements are a first responder or higher level of capability at an emergency critical component of a deployment standard for career fire medical incident. departments. The AHJ may establish more stringent (3) Rural Eight minutes (480 seconds) or less for the arrival requirements. of an advanced life support unit an emergency medical incident, where this service is provided by the fire department Fifteen ______minutes (900 seconds) or less for the arrival of the first arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident and/or 30 minutes (Log #890) (1800 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first alarm 1710- 226 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject assignment at a fire suppression incident. SUBMITTER: Jeff Johnson, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue Fifteen minutes or less for the arrival of a unit with first COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 responder or higher level of capability at an emergency medical RECOMMENDATION: Add item (new) number 4 to read as incident. follows: (4) Frontier: Forty five minutes (2700 seconds) or less for the "In the event a fire service organization has properly developed arrival of the first arriving engine company at a fire suppression and lawfully adopted a "Standards of Coverage" document using incident and/or one hour (60 minutes) or less for the the Commission on Fire Accreditation International model, the deployment of a full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression standards set forth therein shall be acceptable as a substitute for incident. the response times other wise stated in this section." Forty five minutes (2700 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit SUBSTANTIATION: The American fire service is currently with first responder or higher level of capability at an emergency evaluated against two external standards. medical incident. The first, the rating system of the Insurance Services SUBSTANTIATION: NFPA 1710 contemplates a static Organization, measures the capacity of a fire service organization deployment model designed to have the first unit arrive at the to deliver personnel, equipment, and water to the scene of a scene of an emergency in less than four minutes. This standard is structural fire. It does not address responses to medical both appropriate and realistic in some urban areas, which have a emergencies, hazardous materials emergencies, or to requests for need for that level of response and which generate adequate other specialized services. revenues from property taxes to support a four minute response The second is the recently developed Fire Service Accreditation by a fire company staffed by career personnel. program managed by the Commission on Fire Accreditation Less densely populated areas (suburban, rural, and frontier International (CFAI) on behalf of the International Association areas), however, do not produce sufficient resources to support a of Fire Chiefs and the International City Managers Association. static-deployment four minute response performance. Neither do Accreditation takes a broader view of a fire service organization. those areas have adequate transportation infrastructure to permit With respect to response performance, the CFAI process an urban level of response. Meeting an urban response standard requires a comprehensive evaluation of the organization’s could consume all, or a substantial portion, of the economic resource deployment, community hazard base, and identification output of some rural communities. of effective response forces for various types of emergencies, all COMMITTEE ACTION: Hold. embodied in an officially adopted "Standards of Coverage" (SOC) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: document. The SOC represents the organization’s "commitment" This is new material that requires to the Level of service it provides to its community. It must be further review. analytically based, standing on verifiable performance data. Moreover, it must be adopted by the governing body of the ______jurisdiction. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: (Log #889) The Fire Service Accreditation 1710- 225 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject managed by CFAI is not a deployment standard, but an internal SUBMITTER: Jeff Johnson, Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue self-evaluation of a fire department. The committee concluded COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 that fire department service levels and time requirements are a RECOMMENDATION critical component of a deployment standard for career fire : Add text to read as follows: departments. The AHJ may establish more stringent "(NEW) A.4.1.3.1.1 In the event a fire service organization has requirements. properly developed and lawfully adopted a "Standards of Coverage" document using the Commission on Fire Accreditation ______International model, the standards set forth therein shall be acceptable as a substitute for the response times otherwise stated in this section." (Log #898) SUBSTANTIATION: The American fire service is currently 1710- 227 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject evaluated against two external standards. SUBMITTER: James D. Spiegel, Countryside Fire Protection The first, the rating system of the Insurance Services District Organization, measures the capacity of a fire service organization COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 to deliver personnel, equipment, and water to the scene of a RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: structural fire. It does not address responses to medical 4.1.3.1.1 The fire department shall establish the following emergencies, hazardous materials emergencies, or to requests for response time objectives of : other specialized services. (1) (The response time for the first arriving engine company at The second is the recently developed Fire Service Accreditation a fire suppression incident shall be adequate and appropriate for program managed by the Commission on Fire Accreditation the level of hazard, risk and frequency identified by the authority

318 NFPA 1710 — May 2001 ROC — Copyright 2001, NFPA having jurisdiction. The response time for the deployment of a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident shall be department service levels and time requirements are a critical adequate and appropriate for the level of risk and hazard so that component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. the fire suppression forces are able to control the spread of The Fire Department or AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. The Fire Service Accreditation managed by CFAI hostile fire. The level of response deployment shall be is not a deployment standard, but an internal self-evaluation of a determined by the authority having jurisdiction after completing a fire department. risk, hazard assessment incorporating frequency of incident, type and construction of structure, level of built in fire suppression ______and alarm detection, level of building and fire suppression and alarm detection equipment maintenance, water supplies available, and other factors identified by the authority having (Log #903) jurisdiction.) 1710- 228 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Jack Rauh, Yarnell, AZ (2) (The response time for the first arriving unit with first COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 responder(s) or higher level capable at an emergency medical RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: incident shall be adequate and appropriate for the level of "(4) Small unmanned fire departments will respond as quickly incident frequency identified by the authority having jurisdiction as is consistent with safety." in conjunction with the local emergency medical authority.) SUBSTANTIATION: Small departments with no paid personnel (3) (The response time for the arrival of an advanced life require volunteers to drive to the station, pick up equipment, support unit at an emergency medical incident shall be adequate then drive to the emergency. and appropriate for the common incident types and frequency COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. identified by the authority having jurisdiction in conjunction with COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The standard does not apply to the local emergency medical authority.) volunteer fire departments, see NFPA 1720, Standard for the SUBSTANTIATION: The standard has identified an unrealistic Organization and Deployment of Fire Suppression, Emergency level of response performance by even a well-funded modern day Medical Operations, and Special Operations to the Public by fire agency. A four-minute response time for the arrival of the Volunteer Fire Departments. first fire engine (suppression unit) in reality equates to a 3 minute (180 second) travel time. A 3 minute travel time equates to a ______travel distance of just over 1.5 miles in a suburban/urban environment and 1.75 in a rural environment. The standard maintains its historical taproot to the ISO travel distance of "how (Log #906) far can the horse pull the hose wagon." Using a typical single 1710- 229 - (4-1.3.1.1): Reject family structure of a 2000 square foot house may be adequate for SUBMITTER: J. W. Foster, Yelm Fire District a percent of fire agencies but not effective for all agencies. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 My district is both CFAI (fire) and CAAS (ems) accredited. RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall establish the While our database may be small, it is consistent with over fifteen following response time objectives of: ... (1) (2) (3) . Strike years of suppression activities. In 2000, we will respond to over entire article and replace with: The fire department shall establish 3,000 calls for service, with less than 1 percent of the calls objectives for response time to all types of incidents in their requiring the response and deployment addressed by this jurisdiction. These response time objectives will recognize standard. From the period of 1990 to 1999, the fire district has science-based theory and will support optimal effectiveness of recorded a reduction of over 50 percent of structure fires. response teams and provide for their safety. Consideration will be According to the standard, the response and deployment strategy given to each jurisdiction’s unique natural and manmade will require the minimums identified, regardless of the incident frequency of a still district. One size does not fit all, unless it’s obstructions to theoretical optimal response. spandex! SUBSTANTIATION: Justification: Current wording of this Incorporating a risk/frequency model and standard of cover, article is recommending that response teams put themselves at such as identified by the Commission on Fire Accreditation risk responding to "beat the clock" instead of in a manner that International would address such various levels of building safely gets the right number of responders and equipment to the protection. Population density, type of structure, level of hazard, scene to attempt control and mitigation of the hazards frequency of event, built in automatic suppression and alarm encountered. The article as stated advocates the antiquated rush detection systems, and other such parameters need to be in at all costs mentality of yesteryear. Whereas there should be considered if this standard is to be fully supported by modern fire significant consideration given to the correlation of agencies. The standard needs to flex with risk and frequency, in time/flashover and subsequent life hazard and property essence be a spandex standard. destruction, and whereas equal weight should be given to The level of response identified by the standard for emergency scientifically derived data regarding cardiac saves and response medical incidents is based upon the non-breathing cardiac arrest times, so too should we recognize that a wide variety of variables patient. While our database may be small, it is consistent with adversely affect a department’s intentions to meet those optimal over fifteen years of emergency medical response providing response times. Geography, road conditions, traffic patterns, advanced life support and transport with average response times building types (e.g. highrise office/residence), and concern for of less than four minutes. The true cardiac emergency (sudden the safety of responders will make it virtually impossible for most cardiac attacks) comprise 0.2 percent of the total calls for service departments to realistically achieve theoretical standards. Rather in a study conducted in 1997. The four year study identified that than establishing blanket time parameters for all departments, a when CPR was administered prior to the arrival of the cross fire chief should be challenged by the standard to analyze risks in trained Fire Fighter/Paramedics with an average response time of his department’s jurisdiction and establish realistic response time less than 4 minutes, a save rate of 50 percent was attained. objectives that can be met a high percentage of the time. According to the standard, I will need to provide the same level COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. of response and deployment to the senior citizen housing and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that regional shopping mall as I do to the agricultural areas. The minimum fire department service levels and minimum time standard will cause a redeployment of personnel, apparatus and requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard equipment that will not save lives, but place resources in areas of for career fire departments. The Fire Department may establish little or no incident frequency. more stringent requirements. The standard was based on Incorporating a risk/frequency model, such as identified by the scientific study, experience and data. Supporting scientific and Commission on Fire Accreditation International will allow the medical studies as well as fire risk, are included in Annex A. agency to provide the appropriate response and deployment level consistent with the nature and frequency of the emergency ______medical incidents. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject.

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(Log #665) minute and eight minute response time objectives may simply be 1710- 230 - (4-1.3.1.1, 4-1.3.1.2): Reject unattainable by some departments. We have no standards, now SUBMITTER: Jackie T. Gibbs, Marietta Fire and Emergency why make ones that will continually be challenged by outside Services members or possibly our own? COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Section 5.2.1 Staffing RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall establish the I think this standard would be better received if unit staffing was following response time objectives of: not the focus. The fire service performs numerous tasks that do (1) Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the first not require four on a unit to accomplish effectively. I believe the arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident and/or 8 better path to follow would involve setting standards for the minutes (480 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first number of people needed to safely and effectively mitigate a alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. certain situation, i.e., 15 people initially for a single residential (2) Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit building; 25 for a commercial structure, etc. If we, as a service with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency industry, know the number of people it takes to do a certain task medical incident. or several tasks combined, shouldn’t we use that as a standard in (3) Eight minutes (480 seconds) or less for the arrival of an stead of unit staffing? It is more important that personnel and advanced life support unit at an emergency medical incident, equipment are available at the emergency scene, not necessarily where this service is provided by the fire department. how many are traveling on a particular type of apparatus. In most 4.1.3.1.2 The fire department shall establish a performance cases, the crews from a until normally get separated during the objective of not less than 90 percent for the achievement of each early stages of an incident anyway. response time objective specified in 4.1.3.1.1. I am also concerned about the wording of the requirement for SUBSTANTIATION: This time standard is unreasonable. With staff aides of supervisory chiefs. I believe that it would be best to the fire loss on the decline and traffic accidents on the rise a suggest that staff aides be assigned to supervisory chiefs instead of modern risk/loss analysis is required. Traffic congestion requires mandating the assignment of the staff aides. Furthermore, are the the first due unit respond emergency and if a confirmed fire is staff aides a permanent assignment or is the assignment made just found the rest of the fire alarm assignment than upgrades to an during an emergency incident? I also feel that consideration emergency response. To respond all first due units emergency, should be given to assigning a safety officer at all working, non- considering the high accident potential and the high false alarm EMS incidents, not just those incidents which escalate beyond an probability, is to overlook reasonable risk/loss analysis. I believe initial full alarm assignment. Providing for the safety and well- broad analysis of the fire service reveals the need to write a being of our fire service personnel is paramount and should be performance based standard. A prescription approach, as foremost in the incident commander’s mind at each emergency proposed, will not be accepted. A standard that is not used or incident. lacks credibility is detrimental to all of the fire service. Section 5.3.3.3 EMS System Functions - Staffing COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. I believe that further clarification is needed regarding units that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary provide ALS transport. When you state that these units shall be for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety in a document staffed by two members providing patient care at the paramedic addressing career fire department deployment. level, are you implying that a third person (not necessarily an ALS provider) is needed in order to drive the transport unit to the ______hospital? Also, are the two paramedics required for all ALS calls or just for ALS-Critical calls? Section 5.3.4 Quality Management (Log #513) While I wholeheartedly support a quality management program 1710- 231 - (4-1.3.1.1, 4-1.3.1.2, 5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5- for the fire service, the requirement to review all first responder 3.3.4.3): Reject and BLS medical care provided would be overwhelming for most SUBMITTER: Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department career fire departments. In addition, you make no mention as to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the number (or percentage) of ALS calls that need to be part of RECOMMENDATION: Delete all wording relating to the the quality management program. I would suggest that the AHJ number of minutes for fire department arrival and the percentage dictate the percentage of EMS calls (both BLS and ALS) to be of time in which that arrival must be achieved within the reviewed for quality assurance instead of mandating that all calls jurisdiction of the fire departments from the sections noted. be reviewed. An adequate representation of the care provided SUBSTANTIATION: Empirically the number of minutes for fire throughout the jurisdiction should be available when randomly department arrival and the percentage of time that is choosing the pre-determined percentage of EMS calls for quality accomplished within the jurisdiction is factored into the ISO assurance. Of course, calls that present the providers with rating assigned to a given area. Subsequent to that rating unusual or especially stressful situations should be reviewed to assignment, insurance costs are set for the area. This will (1710) ensure proper care was provided. create a legal liability for any fire department that can not meet it. SUBSTANTIATION: How will this standard mesh with the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. accreditation process where departments are allowed to set COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary standards or at least goals? Will these goals be in line with the for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety in a document standards set within NFPA 1710 or will they be conflicting? Could addressing career fire department deployment. we (the fire service) have a bench marking system that would encompass both this new standard and the accreditation process? ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any recommended text for the commitee to consider. (Log #670) 1710- 232 - (4-1.3.1.1, 5-2.1, 5-3.3.3, 5-3.4): Reject ______SUBMITTER: J. Michael Dorsey, Howard County Fire and Rescue (Log #120) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 233 - (4-1.3.1.1(1)): Reject RECOMMENDATION: I applaud the fire service for attempting SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department to set a bench marking process to our industry. Toward that end, COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 I would like to offer the following suggestions for consideration. RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. Section 4.1.3.1.1 Response Time Objectives SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be left to If you are going to set time performance standards, I suggest you the authority having jurisdiction and/or the local government. consider measuring and striving toward a reasonable "time of COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. intervention by the jurisdiction". This would measure the time COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that elapsed from the moment the call taker receives the call until fire minimum fire department service levels and minimum time service personnel are at the patient’s side for an EMS call or until requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard fire service personnel first size up the situation at the location of for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction other emergency incidents. In addition, I feel that the reasonable may establish more stringent requirements. time performance standards may vary greatly from jurisdiction to ______jurisdiction. Several factors need to be considered, including: rural vs metro areas within a jurisdiction as well as hot vs cold (emergency/non-emergency) response patterns. Thus, the four

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(Log #706) (Log #728) 1710- 234 - (4-1.3.1.1(1)): Reject 1710- 238 - (4-1.3.1.1(1)): Reject SUBMITTER: Roy Bleikamp, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety SUBMITTER: David Callon, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the first Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the first arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident and/ or 8- arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident and/ or 8- minutes (480 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first minute (480 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times within their financial and resource limitations and as required within their financial and resource limitations and as required and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for fire for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for fire suppression. suppression. ______(Log #710) 1710- 235 - (4-1.3.1.1(1)): Reject (Log #749) SUBMITTER: Steve Smith, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety 1710- 239 - (4-1.3.1.1(1)): Reject District SUBMITTER: Richard Curtis, Anacortes Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the first Six Four minutes or less for the arrival of the first arriving arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident and/ or 8- engine company at a fire suppression incident and/or 10 8 minutes (480) or less for the deployment of a full first alarm minutes or less for the deployment of a full first alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. assignment. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having SUBSTANTIATION: The response time standard of 4 minutes jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times and 8 minutes is too difficult to achieve. A more reasonable level within their financial and resource limitations and as required is 6 to 10 minutes. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for fire component of the deployment standard for career fire suppression. departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- ______168 (Log # 841) and 1710-173 (Log # 843). (Log #717) ______1710- 236 - (4-1.3.1.1(1)): Reject SUBMITTER: Frank Peep, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District (Log #773) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 240 - (4-1.3.1.1(1), (2), (3)): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the first COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident and/ or 8 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: minutes (480 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first (1) Four minutes (240 seconds) six minutes (360 seconds) alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. or less . . . and/or 8 minutes (480 seconds) 10 minutes (600 SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times seconds) . . . within their financial and resource limitations and as required (2) Four minutes (240 seconds) 6 minutes (360 seconds) or and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. less . . . COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (3) Eight minutes (480 seconds) 10 minutes (600 seconds) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary or less . . . for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for fire SUBSTANTIATION: The scope of this standard refers to a suppression. minimum standard. As such, arrival times of 6 and 10 minutes are much more appropriate as minimums. They also match ______previously adopted standards by the Department of Defense for military fire departments of 6 and 10 minutes respectively. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #724) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that 1710- 237 - (4-1.3.1.1(1)): Reject four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical SUBMITTER: Clint Olson, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety component of the deployment standard for career fire District departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 168 (Log # 841) and 1710-173 (Log # 843). RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: ______Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of the first (Log #122) arriving engine company at a fire suppression incident and/ or 8- 1710- 241 - (4-1.3.1.1(2)): Reject minutes (480 seconds) or less for the deployment of a full first SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department alarm assignment at a fire suppression incident. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be left up to within their financial and resource limitations and as required the authority having jurisdiction and/or the local government. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary minimum fire department service levels and minimum time for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for fire requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard suppression. for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction may establish more stringent requirements ______

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(Log #707) (Log #729) 1710- 242 - (4-1.3.1.1(2)): Reject 1710- 246 - (4-1.3.1.1(2)): Reject SUBMITTER: Roy Bleikamp, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety SUBMITTER: David Callon, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency medical incident. medical incident. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having within their financial and resource limitations and as required jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. within their financial and resource limitations and as required COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary medical response. for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency medical response. ______(Log #711) 1710- 243 - (4-1.3.1.1(2)): Reject (Log #123) SUBMITTER: Steve Smith, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety 1710- 247 - (4-1.3.1.1(3)): Reject District SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be left to with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency the authority having jurisdiction and/or the local government. medical incident. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency within their financial and resource limitations and as required medical response. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency medical response. (Log #708) 1710- 248 - (4-1.3.1.1(3)): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Roy Bleikamp, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #718) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: 1710- 244 - (4-1.3.1.1(2)): Reject Eight minutes (480 seconds) or less for the arrival of an SUBMITTER: Frank Peep, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety advanced life support unit at an emergency medical incident District where the service is provided by the Fire Department . COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit within their financial and resource limitations and as required with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. medical incident. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency within their financial and resource limitations and as required medical response. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency medical response. (Log #712) 1710- 249 - (4-1.3.1.1(3)): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Steve Smith, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #725) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: 1710- 245 - (4-1.3.1.1(2)): Reject Eight minutes (480 seconds) or less for the arrival of an SUBMITTER: Clint Olson, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety advanced life support unit at an emergency medical incident District where the service is provided by the Fire Department . COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times Four minutes (240 seconds) or less for the arrival of a unit within their financial and resource limitations and as required with first responder or higher level capability at an emergency and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. medical incident. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency within their financial and resource limitations and as required medical response. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency medical response. ______

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(Log #719) "The fire department shall establish a performance objective of 1710- 250 - (4-1.3.1.1(3)): Reject not less than 90 80 percent for the achievement of each SUBMITTER: Frank Peep, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety response time objective specified in 4.1.3.1.1." District SUBSTANTIATION: There has not been adequate COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 consideration given to "call stacking", the simultaneous calls for RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: service that require deployment of companies outside initial Eight minutes (480 seconds) or less for the arrival of an company response districts. Call stacking reduces companies’ advanced life support unit at an emergency medical incident ability to meet the 90% performance objective. where the service is provided by the Fire Department . COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that a jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times 90% performance objective is a critical component of the within their financial and resource limitations and as required deployment standard for career fire departments. This level as and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. chosen by the Committee because it is a generally accepted and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. widely used statistical standard. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency ______medical response.

______(Log #234) 1710- 255 - (4-1.3.1.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 (Log #726) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 251 - (4-1.3.1.1(3)): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Move this section to Annex A 4.1.3.1.2 SUBMITTER: Clint Olson, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety and modify to read 80 percent. District SUBSTANTIATION: Section 4.1.3.1 states that the AHJ shall COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 include specific response times objectives for each major service RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: component. The response time objectives may vary depending Eight minutes (480 seconds) or less for for the arrival of an upon the geography and abilities of each jurisdiction. 4.1.3.1.2 is advanced life support unit at an emergency medical incident appropriate in the annex, but conflicts with the statutory where the service is provided by the Fire Department . authority of AHJ (reference WAC 296-976-390 sec. 12(a)) and SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having would present significant liability exposure to jurisdictions if jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times applied across the board if included in the standard itself. within their financial and resource limitations and as required COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 90 percent performance objective is a critical component of the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary deployment standard for career fire departments. This level as for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency chosen by the Committee because it is a generally accepted and medical response. widely used statistical standard. The purpose of Annex A is to provide explanatory text. ______(Log #730) 1710- 252 - (4-1.3.1.1(3)): Reject (Log #323) SUBMITTER: David Callon, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety 1710- 256 - (4-1.3.1.2): Reject District SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Eight minutes (480 seconds) or less for the arrival of an "The fire department shall establish a performance objective of advanced life support unit at an emergency medical incident not less than 90 80 percent for the achievement of each where the service is provided by the Fire Department . response time objective established in 4-1.3.1.1. SUBSTANTIATION: The Fire Department or authority having SUBSTANTIATION: jurisdiction must have the ability to establish response times A performance level of 90 percent is within their financial and resource limitations and as required unrealistic for most urban fire departments, considering the and financed by the tax paying citizens of the community. combined impacts of simultaneous alarms, road and traffic COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. conditions, weather, and other circumstances beyond the control COMMITTEE STATEMENT: of the fire department. The simultaneous alarm factor is a very Response time criteria is necessary significant issue when the same units are used to respond to for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety for emergency emergency medical incidents and fire incidents. Setting the medical response. performance standard at this level will create a demand for "more" resources to provide extra coverage for unpredictable ______circumstances. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: (Log #75) The committee concluded that a 1710- 253 - (4-1.3.1.1(4) (New) ): Hold 90 percent performance objective is a critical component of the SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department deployment standard for career fire departments. This level as COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 chosen by the Committee because it is a generally accepted and RECOMMENDATION: New Paragraph (4) Twelve minutes widely used statistical standard. The purpose of Annex A is to (720 seconds) or less for the arrival of a special operations team provide explanatory text. with "Operations Level" or higher training, as defined by NFPA 472 and NFPA 1670, to a special operations incident. ______SUBSTANTIATION: There are, in 1710’s current form, no requirements for the response time for Special Operations Teams. (Log #787) COMMITTEE ACTION: Hold. 1710- 257 - (4-1.3.1.2): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: SUBMITTER: Steve Trackwell, Federal Way Fire Department This is new material that requires COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 further review. RECOMMENDATION ______: Revise text as follows: (Log #67) The fire department shall establish a performance objective at 1710- 254 - (4-1.3.1.2): Reject not less than 90 75 percent. SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department SUBSTANTIATION: 75% would allow an achievable standard - COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 crew response time at night - would average out with quicker RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: response during awake hours. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject.

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COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that a (Log #236) 90 percent performance objective is a critical component of the 1710- 261 - (4-1.3.1.4.1): Reject deployment standard for career fire departments. This level as SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 chosen by the Committee because it is a generally accepted and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 widely used statistical standard. The purpose of Annex A is to RECOMMENDATION: Move to Annex A 4.1.3.1.4.1. provide explanatory text. SUBSTANTIATION: This section does nothing to limit the liability exposure created by this standard as written. Since this ______section provides a liability if not done, this would be appropriate only in the annex as "should". COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #751) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The purpose of Annex A is to 1710- 258 - (4-1.3.1.2, 5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1): Reject provide explanatory text. The committee concluded that the SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life reporting requirements are necessary and an integral part of the Safety standard. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: ______... not less than 90 75 percent ... SUBSTANTIATION: The proposed standard of 90% is unrealistic. Even if all stations and crews are located to meet (Log #237) response time standards if available, 10 - 10% of the time the 1710- 262 - (4-1.3.1.4.2): Reject response will not originate from the station due to prior SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 incidents, details, and training. Propose what is possible. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Move to Annex A 4.1.3.1.4.2. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that a SUBSTANTIATION: This section does nothing to limit the 90 percent performance objective is a critical component of the liability exposure created by this standard as written. Since this deployment standard for career fire departments. This level as section provides a liability if not done this would be appropriate chosen by the Committee because it is a generally accepted and only in the annex as a "should". widely used statistical standard. The purpose of Annex A is to COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. provide explanatory text. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The purpose of Annex A is to provide explanatory text. The committee concluded that the ______reporting requirements are necessary and an integral part of the standard.

(Log #235) ______1710- 259 - (4-1.3.1.4): Reject SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #741) RECOMMENDATION: Move to Annex A 4.1.3.1.4. 1710- 263 - (4-3): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: This section does nothing to limit the SUBMITTER: Scott W. Kenley, City of Lodi liability exposure created by this standard as written. Since this COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 section provides a liability if not done, this would be appropriate RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire section. only in the annex as a "should". 4.1.3.1.4 does not make SUBSTANTIATION: Some departments choose not to provide provisions for those fire districts who are their own AHJ. Who do EMS. There are other, more appropriate, organizations which set we make a report to? Ourselves? EMS standards. NFPA is dedicated to addressing the nation’s fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. problem, not emergency medical services. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The purpose of Annex A is to COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. provide explanatory text. The committee concluded that the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee was charged with reporting requirements are necessary and an integral part of the the responsibility of developing a document addressing career fire standard. department deployment, including emergency medical services. After considerable review, the committee determined that certain ______minimum response criteria were necessary. ______(Log #681) 1710- 260 - (4-1.3.1.4): Hold (Log #827) SUBMITTER: Donna P. Brehm, Virginia Beach Fire Department 1710- 264 - (4.3 and 5.3): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Tim Marrocco, Bloomingdale Fire Protection RECOMMENDATION: Replace "quadrennially" with "every five District No. 1 years" COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Many departments have gone through, are RECOMMENDATION: Delete all EMS standards criteria and going through or plan to go through the Commission on Fire comments proposed by this document. Service Accreditation International’s Assessment Process. This SUBSTANTIATION: Delivery of Emergency Medical Services process included a five year comprehensive review to maintain falls under state laws and EMS System Policies. accredited status. I would suggest matching this time cycle to COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. reduce some of the paperwork/reporting that is beginning to COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee was charged with bury the fire service. The 1710 document and the Accreditation the responsibility of developing a document addressing career fire manual require evaluation of so many of the same processes and department deployment, including emergency medical services. procedures, and in addition, fulfilling the requirements of the After considerable review, the committee determined that certain 1710 standard can very logically be incorporated into the minimum response criteria were necessary. Accreditation document, forming the basis for appraisal and ______plans for future implementation. COMMITTEE ACTION: Hold. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The possible connection between (Log #87) this standard and an accreditation process is worthy of future 1710- 265 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7 and 4-8): Reject study. SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection District 8 ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Add to following text at the beginning of the paragraph: "The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and service levels to be provided to the community by the fire department."

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SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be (Log #222) determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon 1710- 269 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, and 4-8): Reject local conditions and requirements. SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. District # 7 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum fire department service levels and minimum time RECOMMENDATION: Add the following text at the beginning requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard of the paragraph: for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and may establish more stringent requirements service levels to be provided to the community by the fire department. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon local conditions and requirements. (Log #95) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 266 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, and 4-8): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection minimum fire department service levels and minimum time District 8 requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction RECOMMENDATION: Add the following text at the beginning may establish more stringent requirements of the paragraph: "The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and ______service levels to be provided to the community by the fire department." SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be (Log #251) determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon 1710- 270 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, and 4-8): Reject local conditions and requirements. SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Protection District # 7 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum fire department service levels and minimum time RECOMMENDATION: Add the following text at the beginning requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard of the paragraph: for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and may establish more stringent requirements service levels to be provided to the community by the fire department. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon local conditions and requirements. (Log #102) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 267 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, and 4-8): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that SUBMITTER: minimum fire department service levels and minimum time COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard RECOMMENDATION: Add the following text at the beginning for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction of the paragraph: may establish more stringent requirements "The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and service levels to be provided to the community by the fire ______department." SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon (Log #266) local conditions and requirements. 1710- 271 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, and 4-8): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that District #7 minimum fire department service levels and minimum time COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard RECOMMENDATION: Add the following text at the beginning for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction of the paragraph: may establish more stringent requirements The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and service levels to be provided to the community by the fire ______department. SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon (Log #117) local conditions and requirements. 1710- 268 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, and 4-8): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that Protection District 8 minimum fire department service levels and minimum time COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard RECOMMENDATION: Add the following text at the beginning for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction of the paragraph: may establish more stringent requirements "The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and service levels to be provided to the community by the fire ______department." SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon (Log #267) local conditions and requirements. 1710- 272 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5, 4-6, 4-7, and 4-8): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that Protection District #7 minimum fire department service levels and minimum time COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard RECOMMENDATION: Add the following text at the beginning for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction of the paragraph: may establish more stringent requirements The Authority Having Jurisdiction shall determine services and service levels to be provided to the community by the fire ______department. SUBSTANTIATION: Local control and service levels need to be determined by the Authority Having Jurisdiction based upon local conditions and requirements.

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COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. agency or private organization, the authority having jurisdiction COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that shall include in the organizational statement the minimum minimum fire department service levels and minimum time staffing, deployment, and response time criteria as required in requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard Section 5.3 based on recommendations from the fire department. for career fire departments. The authority having jurisdiction , based upon recommendations from the fire department, shall may establish more stringent requirements include the minimum staffing, deployment and response criteria ______as required in Section 5.3 in: (1) The fire department organizational statement (Log #324) 1710- 273 - (4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5 and 4-6): Accept in Principle (2) Any contract, service agreement, governmental agreement SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY or memorandum of understanding between the authority having COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 jurisdiction and the other agency or private organization" RECOMMENDATION: Revise paragraphs 4-3.1, 4-4.1, 4-5 and 4- SUBSTANTIATION: Current text only stipulates inserting 6 to read as follows: requirement in fire department’s organizational statement and "...to which the fire department is required and/or expected fails to place criteria within legal binding documents between to respond." AHJ and the other agency/organization providing the service. SUBSTANTIATION: The concept of "required to respond" COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. omits the common circumstance whether there is not statutory requirement for the fire department to respond to certain types of ______calls. In these cases the fire department could be "expected" to respond, without being "required" to respond. There are also many types of unusual and unforeseen situations where the fire (Log #830) department is the appropriate agency to meet an urgent need, 1710- 277 - (4-4.1): Reject whether or not there is a specific requirement to respond to that SUBMITTER: Tim Marrocco, Bloomingdale Fire Protection type of situation. District No. 1 COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Add language to paragraph numbers 4.3.1, 4.4.1, 4.5, 4.6, and 4.7. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee accepts the "The fire department organizational statement shall set forth the proposed language. However, the committee corrected the criteria for the various types of special operations response and paragraph numbers and also required this language in 4.7. mitigation activities to which the fire department is required to provide respond" ______SUBSTANTIATION: This would meet terminology that is used in same document 4.1.1.(2). (Log #124) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 274 - (4-3.2.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action taken on SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department Comment 1710-273 (Log # 324). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: ______"Where emergency medical services beyond the first responder level with automatic defibrillator level are provided by another agency or private organization the authority having jurisdiction (Log #829) shall include in the organizational statement the minimum 1710- 278 - (4-4.4): Reject staffing, deployment, and response time criteria as required in SUBMITTER: Tim Marrocco, Bloomingdale Fire Protection Section 5.3 based on recommendations from the fire District No. 1 department." COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing levels, deployment, and response RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: time criteria should be left to the authority having jurisdiction "The fire department organizational statement shall set forth the and/or the local government. criteria for the various types of fire department response for large COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. scale incidents involving natural, man-made, or technological COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that destruction to people or property." minimum fire department service levels, deployment and time SUBSTANTIATION: Removes specific incidents and allows for requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard more generalization. for emergency medical response regardless of who provides the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. service. The authority having jurisdiction may establish more COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the stringent requirements. current language is sufficient. ______(Log #778) 1710- 275 - (4-3.2.1): Accept in Principle (Log #775) SUBMITTER: Don Bivins, Vancouver Fire Dept. 1710- 279 - (4-8.3): Accept COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Don Bivins, Vancouver Fire Dept. RECOMMENDATION: 4.3.2.1 add following text at the end: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 . . . and shall identify the relative degree to which said outside RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: agency complies with this standard. 4.8.3 . . . division officer supervisor, group officer supervisor, or SUBSTANTIATION: This allows the agency who contracts for sector officers. service, or relies on other jurisdictions for the service, to contrast SUBSTANTIATION: The terminology change is consistent with the service being provided by the contractor with the service the NIIMS ICS terminology. AHJ would be required to provide, consistent with this standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on ______Comment 1710-276 (Log # 844). ______(Log #19) 1710- 280 - (Chapter 5): Reject (Log #844) SUBMITTER: William Steel, Pierce County Fire Dept. 1710- 276 - (4-3.2.1): Accept COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Brian D. Johnson, International Association of RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in Fire Chiefs regard to deployment and staffing. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 SUBSTANTIATION: Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710), Should the RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: requirements set forth be adopted our small rural fire district will "Where emergency medical services beyond the first responder be forced to shut down. We will not be able to meet the financial level with automatic defibrillator level are provided by another requirements or staffing levels with a volunteer department.

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COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #60) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 285 - (Chapter 5): Reject minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBMITTER: Noel Hardin, Asotin County Fire District #1 staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document addressing fire department deployment and RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to organization. deployment and staffing. SUBSTANTIATION: It’s neither financially feasible nor realistic ______for non-metro fire departments and districts. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #23) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 281 - (Chapter 5): Reject minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBMITTER: Roger Coleman, East Pierce Fire and Rescue staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document addressing fire department deployment and RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 of NFPA 1710 in organization. regards to deployment and staffing. SUBSTANTIATION: Myself, fellow fire commissioners, as well ______as the community we represent and support do not believe that the content of this proposed revision to NFPA Chapter 5 in its entirety because it is neither financially feasible nor realistic for (Log #64) non-metro fire departments and districts to be able to deploy 1710- 286 - (Chapter 5): Reject these unreasonable standards. These revisions are not at all SUBMITTER: Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection realistic for us required to perform fire services at the deployment Dist. No. 7, source. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5 in its COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that entirety. minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBSTANTIATION: The deletion of NFPA 1710 Chapter 5 will staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a provide for the retention of local control of the fire service, by the document addressing fire department deployment and elected officials, staff and community. The four minute response organization. time is unrealistic dealing with logistics, topography, funding and personnel requirements. The minimum of four (4) to six (6) ______person engine companies pose additional problems related to funding issues, equipment needs and apparatus design. This is nothing less than an intrusion of the authority of the fire service (Log #26) without fully understanding local needs, requirements and ability 1710- 282 - (Chapter 5): Reject to provide for the health and safety of fire department personnel SUBMITTER: Robert D. Wilson, Jefferson County Fire District and the community. These unfunded mandates by a non- COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 government agency are unwarranted and ill designed. RECOMMENDATION: Most departments do not have that Delete all of Chapter 5 with regards to deployment and staffing. option or capability. Our engines hold 2-3 personnel only. It’s neither financially feasible nor realistic for fire departments SUBSTANTIATION: The engines would have to sit in the and fire districts to achieve. station and not respond. Waiting for 5-6 people would cause a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. deployed response also. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a recommended language for the committee to consider. document addressing fire department deployment and organization. ______(Log #29) (Log #84) 1710- 283 - (Chapter 5): Reject 1710- 287 - (Chapter 5): Reject SUBMITTER: Robert D. Wilson, Jefferson County Fire District SUBMITTER: Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 County, WA RECOMMENDATION: Delete Chapter 5. Departments know COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 how to best staff response units. RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in SUBSTANTIATION: This standard is impossible to meet for regard to deployment and staffing. smaller districts. The financial impact cannot even begin to be SUBSTANTIATION: It is neither financially feasible nor met. realistic for non-metro fire departments and districts. It is not in COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. the best interests of the local fire departments. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a minimum requirements for fire department services, including document addressing fire department deployment and staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a organization. document addressing fire department deployment and organization. ______(Log #156) (Log #44) 1710- 288 - (Chapter 5): Reject 1710- 284 - (Chapter 5): Reject SUBMITTER: Pete Holtman, Pierce County Fire District 8 SUBMITTER: Michael K. Whittaker, Quilcene, WA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to RECOMMENDATION: Delete all Chapter 5. staffing of minimum four-person engine companies and to SUBSTANTIATION: Four minute response time and four man tactical hazards where there will be a requirement of five or six staffing per engine are not realistic for rural departments. persons per engine (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: None. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a minimum requirements for fire department services, including document addressing fire department deployment and staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a organization. document addressing fire department deployment and organization. ______

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(Log #190) In jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high hazard 1710- 289 - (Chapter 5): Reject occupancies are identified, these companies shall be staffed with SUBMITTER: Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 3-2.2.2 Fire companies whose primary functions are to perform RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in the variety of services associated with truck work, such as forcible regard to deployment and staffing. It is neither financially entry, ventilation, search and rescue, aerial operations for water feasible nor realistic for non-metro fire departments and districts. delivery and rescue, utility control, illumination, overhaul, and SUBSTANTIATION: None. salvage, shall be known as a ladder or truck company. These COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on-duty COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that personnel . (for a Category "A" fire department and a minimum requirements for fire department services, including minumum of three (3) on-duty personnel for a Category "B" fire staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a department). In jurisdictions where critical hazards and high document addressing fire department deployment and hazard occupancies are identified, these companies shall be organization. staffed with a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel). 3-2.3.1.1 The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall ______be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine (a fire) company within a four (4) minute response time and/or the full initial alarm assignment within an eight (8) minute response time (Log #194) to ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in Section 2- 1710- 290 - (Chapter 5): Reject 1. SUBMITTER: Pete Holtman, Pierce County Fire District 8 3-2.3.1.1.1 (The initial arriving company shall have the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 capability to initiate the functional requirements of the initial full RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 (NFPA 1710) in alarm assignment). regard to deployment and staffing. It is neither financially 3-2.3.1.2 Personnel assigned to the initial (arriving company) feasible nor realistic for non-metro fire departments and districts. (alarm assignment) shall have the capability to implement an SUBSTANTIATION: Department cannot financially handle it. Initial Rapid Intervention Team (IRIT). (The IRIT and RIT COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. shall adhere to all the requirements of NFPA 1500, 6-5 Rapid COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Intervention for Rescue of Members, 1997 edition). One minimum requirements for fire department services, including firefighter shall be assigned duties as the Primary IRIT member staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a and one firefighter shall assume the position as secondary IRIT document addressing fire department deployment and members. Only the individual assigned as the Secondary IRIT organization. Member shall be permittted to perform tasks in addition to accountability, but only if those tasks could be immediately ______abandoned without jeopardizing the safety and health of others at the emergency scene. No one would serve as a Secondary IRIT Member when the other activities in which he or she is engaged (Log #201) inhibit his or her ability to assist in monitoring the interior 1710- 291 - (Chapter 5): Reject team(s) and if necessary, perform rescue or are of such SUBMITTER: Richard G. Johnson, Stevens County Fire District importance that they cannot be abandoned without placing other #10 fire fighters in danger. At no time shall an interior attack be COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 initiated unitl the IRIT is fully operational. RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to 3-2.3.1.3 Delete entire section. minimum staffing. It is impossible! 3-2.3.1.4 Delete entire section. SUBSTANTIATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to 3-2.3.2.1 The fire department shall have the capability to deploy deployment and staffing. an initial full alarm assignment within an eight-minute response COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. time (ninety (90) percent of the time). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 3-2.3.2.2 (b) Establishment of an uninterrupted water supply of minimum requirements for fire department staffing is necessary a minimum of (400) (300) gpm for 30 minutes. for a document addressing fire department deployment and 3-2.3.2.2(c) Establishment of an effective water flow application organization. rate of 300 gpm from two handlines, one of which shall be an attack line with a minimum of (100) (150) gpm and one of ______which shall be a back-up line with a minimum of (200) (150) gpm. 3-2.3.2.2(h) When an incident escalates beyond the initial full (Log #309) alarm assignment, or when there is significant risk to fire fighters 1710- 292 - (Chapter 5): Reject due to the magnitude of the incident, the Incident Commander SUBMITTER: Dwight James, Rochester, WA shall (upgrade the IRIT to a full Rapid Intervention Team (RIT) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-559 that consists of four dedicated, fully equipped and trained fire RECOMMENDATION: Delete Chapter 5 NFPA 1710. fighters.) establish a Rapid Intervention Team in compliance SUBSTANTIATION: Chapter 5 NFPA 1710 is not attainable for with NFPA 1500, 6.5 Rapid Intervention for Rescue of Members. volunteer rural fire districts financially it is not feasible. The 3-2.3.3.2.1 Delete entire section. taxpayers are to the limits in our state and to ask for more is out 3-2.3.3.2.2 Delete entire section. of the question. Rewrite the standards so they pertain to different 3-2.3.3.2.3 Delete entire section. situations reasonably and responsibly. SUBSTANTIATION: The additions, revised text and deletions COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. provide flexibility to local jurisdictions to use equipment and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for staffing in a manner that meets the original intent of staffing Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). guidelines. Restructuring wording to "engine" or "ladder company" versus "company" makes a major difference in resource ______distribution. Category of a class "A" or class "B" department versus a "substantially all career" gives clearer meaning and, again, (Log #314a) promotes flexibility for judgment in distribution of resources. 1710- 293 - (Chapter 5): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: James Grigsby, Roanoke Fire-EMS Dept. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee was unable to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 follow all of the submitter's recommendation because the RECOMMENDATION: Revise Chapter 3 to read as follows: submitter obviously used an earlier edition of the draft standard Chapter 3 Services of the Fire Department with a different numbering system as the basis for his comments. 3-2.2.1 Fire Companies whose primary functions are to pump It appears that some of the text that the submitter is asking to and deliver water and perform basic fire fighting at fires including delete does not appear in the current draft, but the committee search and rescue shall be known as engine companies. These cannot confirm that due to the numbering discrepancy. companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on-duty personnel (for Category "A" fire departments and a minimum of ______three (3) on-duty personnel for Category "B" fire departments).

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(Log #319) (Log #826) 1710- 294 - (Chapter 5): Reject 1710- 298 - (Chapter 5): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard L. Anderson, Lewis County Fire District SUBMITTER: Duane M. Malo, Washington State Assn. of Fire #5 Chiefs COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 of NFPA RECOMMENDATION: Delete all Chapter 5 of 1710 and insert proposed standard of 1710. Chapter 4 of 1720. SUBSTANTIATION: This proposal standard of 1710 and 1720 SUBSTANTIATION: Proposed Chapter 4 of 1720 takes a more would prevent our fire district from responding to any medical professional approach to these issues and requires the fire and fire responses due to lack of manpower. This would require department to do an analysis of their true needs, based on their a great sum of money which we are prohibited from collecting risks. The proposed language in Chapter 5 of 1710 takes a weak- account of tax laws. sighted "one-size fits all" approach that can be used by COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. administrators that either cannot or chose not to do the correct COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that analysis for their jurisdictions. The proposed language in minimum requirements for fire department services, including Chapter 5 has the potential to actually negatively impact the level staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a of service to "Mrs. Smith" as departments reallocate recourses that document addressing fire department deployment and are not based on need. organization. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that ______minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and (Log #512) organization. Chapter 5 of NFPA 1710 is preferred to Chapter 4 1710- 295 - (Chapter 5): Reject of NFPA 1720 because the coverage of organization, operations, SUBMITTER: Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department and deployment of NFPA 1710 is more definitive in covering the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 same subject matter for career departments compared to NFPA RECOMMENDATION: NFPA 1710, 2001 Edition, delete Chapter 1720’s emphasis on volunteer departments. 5. SUBSTANTIATION: Delete Chapter 5 in its entirety. Among ______other things, Chapter 5 requires that the department ensure that a sufficient number of members are assigned on-duty, and available to safely and effectively meet the deployment criteria required in (Log #863) Section 5.2.3. This creates a legal liability for any department 1710- 299 - (Chapter 5): Reject unable to meet the personnel numbers and/or response times in SUBMITTER: Robert B. Rehr, City of Delray Beach Fire Rescue their jurisdictions. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Delete the term "shall" in all paragraphs COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that and replace it with "should" in Chapter 5. minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBSTANTIATION: The local jurisdiction is responsible for staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a determining the type and level of services provided to its document addressing fire department deployment and community. The NFPA should make recommendations that organization. local jurisdictions can use as guidelines in establishing the level of service. The fiscal impact that would result if this standard is ______implemented as it’s currently written would be astronomical. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first (Log #688) initiated, the committee considered the different documents it 1710- 296 - (Chapter 5): Reject had the authority to write and concluded that the development of SUBMITTER: David Ellingson, Poulsbo, WA a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 service. The committee has proceeded to develop the RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 relating to requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting deployment and staffing. document will strengthen the deployment of resources in SUBSTANTIATION: Standards are not feasible nor are they communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. realistic for predominantly rural fire departments. Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that departments and the communities they protect without a standard minimum requirements for fire department services, including to provide clear direction for improvement of services. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and ______organization. (Log #30) ______1710- 300 - (5-1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life Safety (Log #689) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 297 - (Chapter 5): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: David Ellingson, Poulsbo, WA "The services provided by the fire department shall include COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 those activities as required by the authority having jurisdiction . RECOMMENDATION: Delete all staffing sections in Chapter 5 Chapter 4" dealing with: SUBSTANTIATION: A fire department is a local government - 4 person engine companies service provider, under the direction and control of local - 5 or 6 persons per engine for tactical hazards (5.2.2.1.1) officials. It is not subject to the dictators of NFPA with regard SUBSTANTIATION: We do not have the resources to meet to what services are to be provided, to meet local needs. See these requirements A.4.1.1. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary minimum requirements for fire department services, including for a document addressing fire department deployment and staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a organization. document addressing fire department deployment and organization. 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(Log #94) (Log #110) 1710- 301 - (5-1.1): Reject 1710- 304 - (5-1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire District 8 Protection District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Replace "Chapter 4" (with) "the RECOMMENDATION: Replace "Chapter 4" (with) "the Authority Having Jurisdiction". Authority Having Jurisdiction". SUBSTANTIATION: Service standards need to be determined SUBSTANTIATION: Service standards need to be determined locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing for the fire department employee’s health and safety. for the fire department employee’s health and safety. Furthermore, decisions effecting publicly funded agencies should Furthermore, decisions effecting publicly funded agencies should be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus based technical standards organization. based technical standards organizations. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. requirements. ______

(Log #101) (Log #229) 1710- 302 - (5-1.1): Reject 1710- 305 - (5-1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection District 8 District # 7 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Replace "Chapter 4" (with) "the RECOMMENDATION: Replace Chapter 4 with the Authority Authority Having Jurisdiction". Having Jurisdiction. SUBSTANTIATION: Service standards need to be determined SUBSTANTIATION: Service standards need to be determined locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing for the fire department employee’s health and safety. for the fire department employee’s health and safety. Furthermore, decisions effecting publicly funded agencies should Furthermore, decisions effecting publicly funded agencies should be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus based technical standards organization. based technical standards organization. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. requirements. ______

(Log #109) (Log #258) 1710- 303 - (5-1.1): Reject 1710- 306 - (5-1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Arthur Getchman, Thurston County Fire SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire Protection District 8 Protection District # 7 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Replace "Chapter 4" (with) "the RECOMMENDATION: Replace Chapter 4 with the Authority Authority Having Jurisdiction". Having Jurisdiction. SUBSTANTIATION: Service standards need to be determined SUBSTANTIATION: locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum Service standards need to be determined criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of for the fire department employee’s health and safety. service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing Furthermore, decisions effecting publicly funded agencies should for the fire department employee’s health and safety. be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the Furthermore, decisions affecting publicly funded agencies should responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the based technical standards organizations. responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. based technical standards organization. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. requirements. ______

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(Log #260) (Log #77) 1710- 307 - (5-1.1): Reject 1710- 310 - (5-2.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection SUBMITTER: David Hart, King County Fire Protection Distict District #7 No 27 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Replace Chapter 4 with the Authority RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.1 Staffing Having Jurisdiction. entirely. Chapter 5 Fire Department Services Delete Chapter title SUBSTANTIATION: Service standards need to be determined and text entirely. locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum SUBSTANTIATION: Deletion of Chapter 5.2.1 of NFPA 1710 criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows 2nd Draft will preserve the ability and responsibility of the local local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of elected officials of each jurisdiction to determine and implement service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing an appropriate level of fire and emergency services, for the fire department employee’s health and safety. commensurate with the risk exposure and available funding of the Furthermore, decisions affecting publicly funded agencies should community served by the jurisdiction. be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that based technical standards organization. minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. for a document addressing fire department deployment and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that organization. minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a ______document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. (Log #86) 1710- 311 - (5-2.1): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Christopher J. Connor, King County Fire Protection District No. 27 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #274) RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.1 Staffing 1710- 308 - (5-1.1): Reject entirely. Chapter 5 Fire Department Services SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire Delete Chapter title and text entirely. Protection District #7 SUBSTANTIATION: Deletion of Chapter 5.2.1 of NFPA 1710 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 second draft will preserve the ability and responsibility of the RECOMMENDATION: Replace Chapter 4 with the Authority local elected officials of each jurisdiction to determine and Having Jurisdiction. implement an appropriate level of fire and emergency services, SUBSTANTIATION: commensurate with the risk exposure and available funding of the Service standards need to be determined community served by the jurisdiction. locally based upon local conditions. Any standard and minimum COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. criteria must be developed through a methodology that allows COMMITTEE STATEMENT: local government the ability to determine their acceptable level of The committee has concluded that service and risk as long as they balance it by properly providing minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary for the fire department employee’s health and safety. for a document addressing fire department deployment and Furthermore, decisions affecting publicly funded agencies should organization. be made by the elected or appointed officials charged with the responsibility of making these determinations, not a consensus ______based technical standards organization. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: (Log #218) The committee has concluded that 1710- 312 - (5-2.1): Reject minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBMITTER: Tommie Brice, King County Fire Protection staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a District No 27 document addressing fire department deployment and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.1 Staffing requirements. entirely. Chapter 5 Fire Department Services Delete Chapter Title and text entirely. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Deletion of Chapter 5.2.1 of NFPA 1710 2nd Draft will preserve the ability and responsibility of the local (Log #758) elected officials of each jurisdiction to determine and implement 1710- 309 - (5-2): Reject an appropriate level of fire and emergency services, SUBMITTER: Dennis E. Mason, Clark County Fire Chiefs Assoc commensurate with the risk exposure and available funding of the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: community served by the jurisdiction. 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: 5.2.1.1 On duty COMMITTEE STATEMENT: 5.2.1.2 On duty The committee has concluded that 5.2.1.2.3 on duty minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary 5.2.2.1.1 Delete in entirety for a document addressing fire department deployment and 5.2.2.1.2 Delete in entirety organization. 5.2.2.2.1 Delete in entirety 5.2.2.2.2 Delete in entirety ______5.2.2.3.1 These companies shall be staffed with a minimum number of on duty personnel as required by the .... 5.2.3.1.1 Delete in entirety (Log #297) SUBSTANTIATION: 1710- 313 - (5-2.1): Reject Eliminates on-duty minimum staffing SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services arguments and allows for the utilization of other personnel to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 fulfill fire ground functions. RECOMMENDATION COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. : Change "shall" to " should" in 5.2.1.1 and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that add a new subsection (3) to read: minimum requirements for fire department services, including (3) The number of trained response personnel available to the staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a department. document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: Rural and small departments are organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent historically combination departments. Staffing is totally requirements. contingent upon funding for paid personnel and the availability of trained active community volunteers. The combination of ______personnel produces an expected number of personnel who could respond to an incident.

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COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. of personnel for the risks, hazards and frequency of the first due COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first response district as identified by the authority having initiated, the committee considered the different documents it jurisdiction.) had the authority to write and concluded that the development of 5.2.2.1.2 In jurisdictions with tactical hazards, high hazard a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire occupancies, high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions, service. The committee has proceeded to develop the or other pertinent factors as identified by the authority having requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting jurisdiction, these companies shall be staffed with ( a minimum document will strengthen the deployment of resources in of five or six on duty members.) (an adequate and appropriate communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change number of personnel for the risks, hazards and frequency of the this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire first due response district as identified by the authority having departments and the communities they protect without a standard jurisdiction.) to provide clear direction for improvement of services. Regarding 5.2.2.2.1 These companies shall be staffed with (a minimum of the proposed new text for subsection 5.2.1.1.(3), the committee four on duty personnel.) (an adequate and appropriate number has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department of personnel for the risks, hazards and frequency of the first due staffing are necessary for this document. response district as identified by the authority having jurisdiction.) ______5.2.2.2.2 In jurisdictions with tactical hazards, high hazard occupancies, high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions, or other pertinent factors as identified by the authority having (Log #352) jurisdiction, these companies shall be staffed with a minimum of 1710- 314 - (5-2.1): Reject five or six on duty members.) (an adequate and appropriate SUBMITTER: Ronald J. Davis, Hoquiam, WA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 number of personnel for the risks, hazards and frequency of the RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.1 staffing first due response district as identified by the authority having in its entirety. jurisdiction.) Delete all of Chapter title and text. SUBSTANTIATION: The standard has identified minimum SUBSTANTIATION: Deletion of Chapter 5 NFPA 1710 2nd staffing of four personnel for engine and truck companies that are Draft will leave the decision making of fire and emergency fixed, expandable but not flexible to the area of coverage. My services with the individuals who are elected by their constituents district is both CFAI (fire) and CAAS (ems) accredited. While at their local level based upon sound decision making according our database may be small, it is consistent with over fifteen years to their economic realities. This proposal is not a realistic of suppression activities. In 2000, we will respond to over 3,000 approach for fire districts throughout the State of Washington and calls for service, with less than 1 percent of the calls requiring the the United States. response and deployment addressed by this standard. For this COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. less than 1 percent of the call load, staffing is required 365 days COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for per year, 7 days a week, and 24 hours per day. From the period Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). of 1990 to 1999, the fire district has recorded a reduction of over 50 percent of structure fires. ______Fire agency staffing is better served by relying on a local risk hazard assessment and standard of cover developed to reflect the area of coverage for the first due engine and truck company (Log #671) districts. The use of a task analysis and local conditions to 1710- 315 - (5-2.1): Reject support the standard of cover will allow the agency to provide a SUBMITTER: Bruce Carman, Island County Fire District No. 2 greater level of accuracy in determining what personnel resources COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 should be placed on engine and truck companies and are RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710, Chapter 5.2.1 staffing required at the scene of a particular fire suppression area. in its entirety. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Delete all of Chapter title and text Chapter 5 Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Services minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBSTANTIATION: The deletion of Chapter 5 NFPA 1710 2nd staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a draft will continue to provide for local control of fire and document addressing fire department deployment and emergency services with the individuals who are ELECTED by organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent their constituents in their local communities to make sound requirements. Qualifying staffing levels with terminology for "an policy decisions based on the economic realities of the local adequate and appropriate number of personnel" does not jurisdiction. This proposal is unrealistic for Fire Districts provide for a measurable minimum requirement. throughout the State of Washington. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). (Log #915) ______1710- 318 - (5-2.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Ralph Schaefer, Spokane County Fire District #8 (Log #674) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 316 - (5-2.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.1 staffing SUBMITTER: Harold Seaberg, Poolsbo, WA in its entirety. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Chapter 5 Fire Department Services Delete all of Chapter title RECOMMENDATION: and text. SUBSTANTIATION: None. SUBSTANTIATION: The deletion of chapter 5 NFPA 1710 2nd COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Draft will continue to provide for local control of fire and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any emergency services with the individuals who are ELECTED by recommended language for the committee to consider. their constituents in their local communities to make sound policy decisions based on the economic realities of the local ______jurisdiction. This proposal is unrealistic for Fire Districts throughout the State of Washington and the United States. (Log #899) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 317 - (5-2.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for SUBMITTER: James D. Spiegel, Countryside Fire Protection Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 5.2.1 Staffing 5.2.2.1.1 These companies shall be staffed with (a minimum of four on duty personnel.) (an adequate and appropriate number

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(Log #916) a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire 1710- 319 - (5-2.1): Reject service. The committee has proceeded to develop the SUBMITTER: Ken Kessler, Spokane County Fire District #8 requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document will strengthen the deployment of resources in RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.1 staffing communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. in its entirety. Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change Chapter 5 Fire Department Services Delete all of Chapter title this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire and text. departments and the communities they protect without a standard SUBSTANTIATION: The deletion of chapter 5 NFPA 1710 2nd to provide clear direction for improvement of services. Draft will continue to provide for local control of fire and emergency services with the individuals who are ELECTED by ______their constituents in their local communities to make sound policy decisions based on the economic realities of the local jurisdiction. This proposal is unrealistic for Fire Districts (Log #523) throughout the State of Washington and the United States. 1710- 323 - (5-2.1.1, 5.2.2.1.1 and 5.2.2.1.2): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for District Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete all or revise to allow departments ______to staff as local conditions delegate. SUBSTANTIATION: It is not possible to staff fire department units with 4+ on duty personnel when you only have one or two (Log #917) personnel on duty and rely on volunteers. If we have to follow 1710- 320 - (5-2.1): Reject this, many times the fire department won’t be able to respond. SUBMITTER: Gregory Hesse, Spokane County Fire District #8 Or, the Federal Government could give the fire department funds COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 to hire more personnel. RECOMMENDATION: Delete NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.1 staffing COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. in its entirety. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Chapter 5 Fire Department Services Delete all of Chapter title minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary and text. for a document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: The deletion of chapter 5 NFPA 1710 2nd organization. Draft will continue to provide for local control of fire and emergency services with the individuals who are ELECTED by ______their constituents in their local communities to make sound policy decisions based on the economic realities of the local jurisdiction. This proposal is unrealistic for Fire Districts (Log #571) throughout the State of Washington and the United States. 1710- 324 - (5-2.1.1(3)): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The potential property loss, based on a community’s ______standardized (including data collection definitions) measurement of historical fire/special hazard loss data and a bi-annual analysis of the community’s levels of risk as a result of changes in the (Log #926) 1710- 321 - (5-2.1): Reject community’s total fire and life safety environment." SUBMITTER: James A. Reseburg, City of Beloit Fire Department SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a RECOMMENDATION: 1) Staffing levels should be determined belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience by home rule. The tax payers should determine the level of and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be service that they are willing to pay for. generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk 2) If there is going to be a national standard on staffing levels, levels based on community hazards and scientific information the standard should apply to all Fire Departments. Standards for such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire volunteer organizations should mirror career Fire Department and life safety circumstances. standards. Life safety issues for firefighters and citizens should not Data with standardized definitions and methods of collection be discriminatory. related to fire loss and other special hazards would allow local SUBSTANTIATION: When an injury or death that is fire related communities to determine the appropriate level of service and occurs, the Governmental entity will be held to that standard in acceptable levels of risks while being able to benchmark against the court system regardless of their adoption of the standard. similar communities. The potential for property loss could vary COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. significantly from community to community. It is essential that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any the service level for a community be based upon their specific recommended language for the committee to consider. acceptable level of risk as determined in conjunction with grass roots citizens. Equally important is a periodic (at least bi- ______annually) analysis of the changing fire and life safety environment rather than depending solely on generalized potentials or historical data that may be misleading due to unique events or (Log #125) inaccurate fire loss estimates. 1710- 322 - (5-2.1.1): Reject There needs to be ongoing analysis data definitions. It appears SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department that the reason for rejecting this proposal is not directly related to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the proposal - see 1710-109 (Log #2018). It appears that these RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: proposals were rejected without serious thought or significant "On-duty fire suppression personnel shall be comprised of the justification for rejection. numbers necessary for fire-fighting performance relative to the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. expected fire-fighting conditions,. These numbers shall should COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The standard was based on scientific study, experience and data. Such support, including be determined through task analysis take into consideration the scientific and medical studies as well as fire risk, is included in following factors into consideration as well as the ability of the Annex A. jurisdiction to provide the necessary resources." SUBSTANTIATION: This provides for more local control in ______determining what is actually needed and what can be afforded. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first initiated, the committee considered the different documents it had the authority to write and concluded that the development of

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(Log #793) can only be accomplished with continuity of operation by having 1710- 325 - (5-2.1.1(3)): Reject personnel assigned and on-duty. SUBMITTER: Terry Ollis, Everett Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Add text as follows: The potential property loss, based on a community’s standardized (including data collection definitions) measurement (Log #891) of historical fire/special hazard loss data and a bi-annual analysis 1710- 328 - (5-2.1.2.1): Reject of the community’s levels of risk as a result of changes in the SUBMITTER: Kirk Owen, Plano Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: community’s total fire and life safety environment. 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise or delete this paragraph. SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following SUBSTANTIATION: As written, this paragraph seems to comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a conflict with 5.2.2.1.1 and 5.2.2.2.1. belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk there is no conflict, since the fire department may have to levels based on community hazards and scientific information increase staffing from the minimums cited in this standard. such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire and life safety circumstances. ______Data with standardized definitions and methods of collection related to fire loss and other special hazards would allow local communities to determine the appropriate level of service and (Log #852) acceptable levels of risks while being able to benchmark against 1710- 329 - (5-2.1.2.1, 5-2.3.2, and 5-2.3.2.2): Reject similar communities. The potential for property loss could vary SUBMITTER: Vernon Verjinksy, City of Wisconsin Rapids, significantly from community to community. It is essential that Wisconsin the service level for a community be based upon their specific COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 acceptable level of risk as determined in conjunction with grass RECOMMENDATION: Strongly object to number of personnel roots citizens. Equally important is a periodic (at least bi- required for initial full alarm assignment as spelled out in annually) analysis of the changing fire and life safety environment 5.2.3.2.2 paragraph (a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f), (g), and (h). rather than depending solely on generalized potentials or Local emergency department staff and administration has historical data that may be misleading due to unique events or standard operating procedures that ensure the safety of inaccurate fire loss estimates. There needs to be ongoing analysis department personnel during any deployment. Conditions, type data definitions. it appears that the reason for rejecting this of facility, equipment and communities are not all alike, and proposal is not directly related to the proposal - see 1710-109 (log therefore local staff should be in a position to determine level of #2018). It appears that these proposals were rejected without manpower needed to respond to any emergency within their serious thought or significant justification for rejection. community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: Strongly object to 5.3.3.4.4, which requires COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The standard was based on two (2) members trained at the emergency medical technician- scientific study, experience and data. Such support, including paramedic level, and two (2) members trained at the emergency scientific and medical studies as well as fire risk, is included in medical technician-basic level, arriving on scene within the Annex A. established response time. Local control, conditions, and community have a better knowledge of what is needed and ______required for adequate response. One standard fits all is not appropriate or realistic. Fire Chief, Assistant Chiefs, and Staff are (Log #126) trained and have the ability to determine safe level of response of 1710- 326 - (5-2.1.2.1): Reject personnel and equipment. SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessaryf "The fire department shall identify minimum company staffing or a document addressing fire department deployment and levels as necessary to meet the deployment criteria required in staffing. For changes to 5.3.3.4.4 see Committee Action on 5.2.3 as adopted by the authority having jurisdiction to ensure that Comment 1710-595 (Log #846). a sufficient number of members are assigned, on-duty, and available to safely and effectively respond with each company." ______SUBSTANTIATION: Should be left to the authority having jurisdiction and/or the local government to establish deployment (Log #526) criteria. 1710- 330 - (5-2.1.2.2): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that District minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: document addressing fire department deployment and "Each company shall be lead by an officer or acting officer." organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent SUBSTANTIATION: We can’t always get an officer on each requirements. unit. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for Comment 1710-148 (Log #522). ______(Log #298) 1710- 327 - (5-2.1.2.1): Reject (Log #805) SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services 1710- 331 - (5-2.1.2.3): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 "The fire department should identify minimum company staffing RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: levels...are assigned, on-duty or off-duty , and available to safely "Supervisory chief officers shall be dispatched or notified to and effectively respond with each company." respond to all full alarm assignments." SUBSTANTIATION: Most combination rural and small fire SUBSTANTIATION: A definition of "full alarm assignment" departments must utilize off-duty personnel to augment their needs to be added to definitions. staffing levels on any incident. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Proposed text is in current COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Technical Committee believes proposal. Initial full alarm assignment is defined. that the task analysis requirements for a first alarm assignment ______

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(Log #892) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 332 - (5-2.1.2.3): Reject full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and SUBMITTER: Kirk Owen, Plano Fire Department effective command operations. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: ______"...chief officers shall be dispatched or notified to and shall respond to all..." SUBSTANTIATION: Text is unclear as to required response of (Log #108) supervisory chief. If it is the desire of the committee for this chief 1710- 337 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject officer to response and assume command (see 3.1.29.2 and SUBMITTER: Arthur Getchman, Thurston County Fire 5.2.3.2.2) text could be more clear. Protection District 8 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Current language is clear, in that RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: the chief officers are to be dispatch or notified. "...during sustained attack operation." SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and ______many other emergency incident types. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that (Log #831) full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and 1710- 333 - (5-2.1.2.4): Reject effective command operations. SUBMITTER: Tim Marrocco, Bloomingdale Fire Protection District No. 1 ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire 5.2.1.2.4. SUBSTANTIATION: Section 5.2.1 deals with staffing and (Log #111) operations this is already stated in 6.2. 1710- 338 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the Protection District 8 Incident Management System (IMS) is so important that it COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 needed to be included in this section. RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: "...during sustained attack operation." ______SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and many other emergency incident types. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #31) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 334 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life effective command operations. Safety COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: During sustained attack organizations. SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require (Log #127) assignment of an aide even during the initial attack, or on any 1710- 339 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject emergency incident of any type. This is unnecessary, and would SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department divert needed operations staff to an essentially stand-by status on COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 many incident types. RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: All emergency incidents do not require COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that staff aides. This standards states that emergency incidents shall full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and have staff aides deployed. Many smaller rural agency do not have effective command operations. the luxury of having staff aides available to them. They are part of the "working" crew. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and effective command (Log #93) operations. 1710- 335 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection ______District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: (Log #228) "...during sustained attack operations." 1710- 340 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection many other emergency incident types. District # 7 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and during sustained attack operations. effective command operations. SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and many other emergency incident types. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and effective command operations. (Log #100) 1710- 336 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection District 8 (Log #257) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 341 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire "...during sustained attack operations." Protection District # 7 SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 many other emergency incident types. RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. during sustained attack operations.

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SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and (Log #66) many other emergency incident types. 1710- 346 - (5-2.2): Accept COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: effective command operations. "Operating Units: Fire company staffing requirements shall be based on minimum levels for emergency operations for ______effectiveness, efficiency, and safety safety, effectiveness, and efficiency." SUBSTANTIATION: While not explicitly prioritized, there is an (Log #259) implicit priority applied by the order of the verbiage. Safety is 1710- 342 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject always a first consideration for firefighting personnel. This change SUBMITTER: Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection would help embrace that concept. District #7 COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: ______during sustained attack operations. SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and many other emergency incident types. (Log #128) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 347 - (5-2.2): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 effective command operations. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "Fire company staff requirements shall be based on minimum ______levels for emergency operations for effectiveness, efficiency, and safety determined by the authority having jurisdiction." SUBSTANTIATION: Each community varies and staffing levels (Log #273) should be at the discretion of authority having jurisdiction 1710- 343 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject and/or the local government. SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Protection District #7 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum requirements for fire department services, including RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a during sustained attack operations. document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: An aide is not needed on minor fires and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent many other emergency incident types. requirements. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that ______full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and effective command operations. (Log #318) ______1710- 348 - (5-2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Dan Hermes, Pleasantview Fire Protection District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #341) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follow: 1710- 344 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject "Fire company staffing requirements are recommended and SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. shall be based on minimum levels for emergency operations COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 for..." RECOMMENDATION: Delete Section 5.2.1.2.5. SUBSTANTIATION: This document should serve as a SUBSTANTIATION: Each chief officer should have the option minimum standard goal, not as a standard mandate. Manning to utilize the personnel available on the scene of an emergency levels and its subsequent cost are dictated by the economic wealth under their command. If an aide is appropriate the officer and means of a community. This standard’s manpower already has that option, but the officer needs to have the freedom requirement makes it more appealing to revert to NFPA 1720 to make the right decision for the incident that is his/her provisions than NFPA 1710 for departments who have three on responsibility. duty personnel. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first full-time, assigned staff aides are absolutely necessary for safe and initiated, the committee considered the different documents it effective command operations. had the authority to write and concluded that the development of a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire ______service. The committee has proceeded to develop the requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting document will strengthen the deployment of resources in (Log #893) communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. 1710- 345 - (5-2.1.2.5): Reject Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change SUBMITTER: Kirk Owen, Plano Fire Department this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 departments and the communities they protect without a standard RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: to provide clear direction for improvement of services. "Supervisory chief officers shall have staff aides shall be dispatched and shall respond to all full alarm assignments to ______assist with incident management and accountability." SUBSTANTIATION: Text is unclear as to required response of aides. If it is the desire of the committee for aides to respond to (Log #325) certain types of incidents and assist with command, the text could 1710- 349 - (5-2.2): Reject be more clear. SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise 5-2.2 to read as follows: current text is clear and sufficient. "Requirements for minimum on-duty staffing of fire companies shall be determined by the authority having jurisdiction, based on ______the ability to perform standard company operations effectively, efficiently and safely." SUBSTANTIATION: The suggested language more clearly states the concept of the requirement.

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COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high-hazard occupancies COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that are identified, these companies should be staffed with a minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel. staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a A.3.2.2.2 It is recommended that a minimum acceptable ladder document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent or truck company staffing should be four (4) on-duty personnel. requirements. In jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high-hazard occupancies are identified, these companies should be staffed ______with a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel. A.3.2.3.1.1 The fire department’s fire suppression resources should be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine (Log #340) company within a four(4) minute response time and/or the full 1710- 350 - (5-2.2.1): Reject initial alarm assignment within an eight (8) minute response time SUBMITTER: J.G. Kleinwachter, Warrenville Fire Protection District to ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in Section COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 2.1. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: The Department of Defense (DoD) has "Fire Companies whose primary functions are to pump and already published "prescriptive" staffing and response time deliver water and perform basic fire fighting at fires including criteria in DoD Instruction 6055.6, DoD Fire and Emergency search and rescue, shall be known as engine companies." Services Program, that meets our fire department’s missions. Our SUBSTANTIATION: During the Town Hall meeting held at instruction requires all DoD components (Army, Navy, Air Force, Fire Rescue International 2000 concerning this document, the Marines, and the Defense Logistics Agency) use a risk assessment panel stated that an engine with 3 firefighters and a tanker with 1 process to determine all fire and emergency services response firefighter would meet the manpower requirements of this requirements based on each military installation’s strategic document as long as the engine and tanker were dispatched as a importance and mission criticality. The proposed NFPA 1710 unit. There was a question from the floor, which asked if a 3 conflicts with DoD’s criteria in the following areas: person engine and a 2 person ambulance dispatched as a unit (1) NFPA 1710 would require a "minimum of 5 or 6 fire would meet the requirements? The panel responded that this fighters" on engine and/or ladder companies for certain high exceeded the requirements. I feel the language in the standard hazard areas. Our DoDI requires a "minimum of 4 fire fighters" does not indicate an ambulance crew is an acceptable on engine and/or ladder companies across the board. component of an engine company. I would therefore ask that the (2) NFPA 1710 would require a 4 minute "response time" for language in the proposal be modified to reflect the panel’s the initial engine company and an 8 minute "response time" for response. the full initial alarm assignment to 90 percent of the incidents. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Our DoDI requires a 5 minute "travel time" for the first arriving COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Submitter's recommended text is structural apparatus and 10 minute "travel time" for the remaining identical to the current language. See Committee Comment 1710- units for 90 percent of alarms. Additionally, NFPA 1710’s 156 (Log #CC3). "response time" criteria is even more stringent since it defines "response time" as the "time from initial receipt of alarm to ______arrival at the scene of an emergency incident," whereas DoDI 6055.6’s "travel time" does not include the time between receipt of (Log #734) the alarm and dispatch of equipment. 1710- 351 - (5-2.2.1, 5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2, 5-2.2.1.2 and 5-2.3.1.1): (3) NFPA 1710 would require a fire department’s emergency Reject medical services (EMS) "response time" of 4 minutes to 90 SUBMITTER: Bruce A. Park, Headquarters, Department of the percent of the incidents whereas DoDI 6055.6 only requires Army compliance with installation or local medical protocols. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The technical committee has 3.2.2.1 Fire companies whose primary functions are to pump reviewed the submitter's comments and conclude that a and deliver water and perform basic fire fighting at fires including minimum number of 4 personnel are necessary to form a search and rescue shall be known as engine companies. These company. The Technical Committee believes that the definition authority having jurisdiction (AHJ) shall determine staffing of of the term "Company" included in the standard allows for engine companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on different staffing configurations. In response to tactical, and or high-hazards the technical committee believes that the current duty personnel. In jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high text requires the AHJ to determine what those hazards are and to hazard occupancies are identified, these companies shall be staff companies at 5/6 personnel based on those hazards. If there staffed with a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on duty personnel. are none of those hazards, as determined by the AHJ then based on a risk assessment process. company staffing reverts to the minimum of 4 personnel. 3.2.2.2 Fire companies whose primary functions are to perform In addition the committee disagrees with the submitter on his the variety of services associated with truck work, such as forcible request to move mandatory text to the annex. By doing that then entry, ventilation, search and rescue, aerial operations for water it is a recommendation, versus a requirement. The Technical deliver and rescue, utility control, illumination, overhaul, and Committee believes that by including a minimum number of salvage work, shall be known as ladder or truck companies. These personnel to respond, assignments based on a task analysis, that it authority having jurisdiction (AHJ) shall determine staffing of meets the minimum requirements to operate safely and ladder or truck companies shall be staffed with a minimum of efficiently. In addition see Committee actions taken on 1710-168 four (4) on duty personnel. In jurisdictions where tactical and 1710-173 (Logs # 841 and 843) regarding staffing and hazards and high hazard occupancies are identified, these response times. companies shall be staffed with a minimum of five (5) or six (6) ______on duty personnel. based on a risk assessment process. 3.2.3.1.1 3.2.3.1.1 The authority having jurisdiction (AHJ) shall (Log #572) determine response times fire department’s fire suppression 1710- 352 - (5-2.2.1, 5.2.2.1.1 and 5.2.2.1.2): Reject resources shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine SUBMITTER: Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. company within a four (4) minute response time and/or for the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 full initial alarm assignment within an eight (8) minute response RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: time to ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in "Fire companies whose primary functions are to pump and Section 2.1 based on a risk assessment process. deliver water and perform basic fire fighting at fires including We recommend moving the above NFPA 1710 "mandatory" search and rescue shall be known as engine companies. These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on duty criteria contained in paragraphs in 3.2.2.1, 3.2.2.2, and 3.2.3.1.1. personnel. In jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high into the "non-mandatory" Appendix of NFPA 1710. The following hazard occupancies are identified, those companies shall be NFPA 1710 "non-mandatory" Appendix paragraphs are keyed to staffed with a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel each of the above "mandatory" paragraphs. respond with sufficient staff and companies to allow for A.3.2.2.1 It is recommended that a minimum acceptable engine firefighters to provide for their safety as they mitigate the company staffing should be four (4) on-duty personnel. In emergency.

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SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following has the right to set levels of service in all areas based on their comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a desired level of services as long as firefighter safety is provided for. belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary levels based on community hazards and scientific information for a document addressing fire department deployment and such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire organization. and life safety circumstances. The current language assumes that the level of risk and hazards ______within all communities are the same and they have the same level of acceptable risk to the community. The key here is that firefighter safety should not be compromised even if the citizens (Log #909) in a given community choose a higher level of personal risk. 1710- 354 - (5-2.2.1, 5.2.2.1.1 and 5.2.2.1.2): Reject There is more than one approach to insure firefighter safety. In SUBMITTER: Wayne Waggoner, Tennessee Fire Code one community a minimum of three (3) may be safe while in Development Committee another it may take more than four (4). In any case the level of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-235 service needs to be analyzed and set at the local level based upon RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: an analysis of the communities hazard vulnerability and their 3.2.2.1 Fire companies whose primary functions are to pump and desired level of service. deliver water and perform basic fire fighting at fires including The standard does not allow for consideration of built in search and rescue shall be known as engine companies. These protection, new technology (e.g. compressed air foam system) or companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on-duty the differences in actual level of risks within a community. I personnel number of personnel as determined by the AHJ. In agree that the staffing must provide for firefighter safety and timely jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high-hazard occupancies response. However, that level of service must be a matter of local are identified, these companies shall be staffed with a minimum decision. There is also a major contradiction. The standard of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel number of personnel as does not allow for local discretion in basic response, yet it leaves determined by the AHJ. it totally up to the local jurisdiction in high hazard operation SUBSTANTIATION: To set an artificial level of response and such as hazardous materials and special operations. Local services in a vacuum without taking into account the various government has the right to set levels of service in all areas based requirements and restrictions in local jurisdictions is on their desired level of service as long as firefighter safety is irresponsible. Already in place are OSHA requirements for provided for. firefighter safety. These are very specific. In place are Haz-Mat COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. requirements, training requirements and EMS requirements. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that These requirements vary from department to department minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary depending on the jurisdictions’ obligations as they relate to for a document addressing fire department deployment and certain emergencies. Statement on Proposal 1710-562 (Log#219). organization. The TFCDC feels compelled to address the NFPA in regards to the adoption process of Standard 1710. It is the view this ______Committee feels that the proposed Standard is an abstract attempt to dictate the manning and equipment levels of hundreds of career Fire Departments across the United States. This seems to (Log #790) be a political departure from the fiduciary purpose of the 1710- 353 - (5-2.2.1, 5.2.2.1.1 and 5.2.2.1.2): Reject organization. There are certainly ideas and concepts included in SUBMITTER: Terry Ollis, Everett Fire Department the document that have merit and encourage further discovery, COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 but require broad spectrums of application. For this organization RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: to specify through the word "shall", unyielding methods of service Fire companies whose primary functions are to pump and delivery, is a disservice to itself and all Fire Departments across deliver water and perform basic fire fighting at fires including the nation. The respect that the NFPA has earned through its search and rescue shall be known as engine companies. These standards as unbiased, scientific applications would be severely companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on-duty compromised by this Standard. Even though the Standard is personnel. In jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high hazard careful to spell out the duties and ability of the "Authority having occupancies are identified, these companies shall be staffed with Jurisdiction" to set service levels, the National Fire Protection a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel. respond with Association has achieved the distinguished status, nationally, as sufficient staff and companies to allow for firefighters to provide the "minimum acceptable industry standard", and thereby dictates for their safety as they mitigate the emergency. the operations of Fire Departments. It is our position that SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following specifics as to manning and service delivery should not be spelled comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a out through this document, but rather the methods used to belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience achieve them should be exploited. One example of this recently and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be manifested itself through the OSHA Respiratory Protection Act, generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk here the resultant safety of the personnel was addressed, not their levels based on community hazards and scientific information method of arrival, as the indicated minimum four personnel such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire assigned to an engine would seem to mandate. This Committee and life safety circumstances. would encourage the NFPA to channel its energies into areas that The current language assumes that the level of risk and hazards provide fewer political implications and address more societal within all communities are the same and they have the same level changes. The widespread proliferation of fire sprinklers would of acceptable risk to the community. The key here is that provide a ten-fold advantage versus the proposed standard. Why firefighter safety should not be compromised even if the citizens not make fire sprinklers in all structures a minimum acceptable in a given community choose a higher level of personal risk. standard and obtain ownership of the process for the entire There is more than one approach to insure firefighter safety. In nation. As presented in the proposed standard, the minimum cone community a minimum of three (3) may be safe while in standards provide for what is viewed by this Committee as an another it may take more than four (4). In any case the level of unfunded mandate. Let’s get back to the technological age and service needs to be analyzed and set at the local level based upon invent new methods and ideas to provide safer and more an analysis of the communities hazard vulnerability and their complete service to our constituents, without undue fiscal desired level of service. burdens on the people of our communities. We hope that our The standard does not allow for consideration of built in voice in this matter is echoed one hundred fold by comments on protection, new technology (e.g. compressed air foam system) or this proposal, and the committee chooses to take a fresh the differences in actual level of risks within a community. I agree approach to this Standard. NFPA standards may be considered a that the staffing must provide for firefighter safety and timely compliance standard. Any department that does not meet this response. However, that level of service must be a matter of local standard may be subjected to extensive litigation over claims for decision. There is also a major contradiction. The standard does excess property damages or delays in treatment or services based not allow for local discretion in basic response, yet it leaves it on this artificial standard, without any consideration of the fiscal totally up to the local jurisdiction in high hazard operation such or physical facts that must be balanced on a daily basis by local as hazardous materials and special operations. Local government jurisdictions. Creating additional claims and areas for tort lawyers would be the result ignoring the realities existing in any local

338 NFPA 1710 — May 2001 ROC — Copyright 2001, NFPA jurisdiction. Staffing of the fire apparatus shall be at the (Log #83) discretion of the AHJ. 1710- 358 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that County, WA minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to document addressing fire department deployment and staffing of minimum four person engine companies and to organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent tactical hazards where there will be a requirement of five or six requirements. persons per engine (Chapter 5.2.2.1.1). SUBSTANTIATION: It is not in the best interests of the local ______fire departments. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that (Log #21) minimum requirements for fire department services, including 1710- 355 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a SUBMITTER: Roger Coleman, East Pierce Fire and Rescue document addressing fire department deployment and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 organization. RECOMMENDATION: Delete all of Chapter 5, specifically 5.2.2.1.1, in regards to staffing of minimum 4 person engine ______companies and to tactical hazards where there will be a requirement of 5 or 6 persons per engine. SUBSTANTIATION: Myself, fellow fire commissioners and the (Log #129) constituents we represent/support do not believe that the content 1710- 359 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject of the proposed version to NFPA 1710 Chapter 5.2.2.1.1 regarding SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department the requirement of staffing to minimum 4 person engine COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 companies and requiring 5 or 6 persons per engine when RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. responding to tactical hazards is not feasible or financially SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing levels should be left to authority practical with the local budgets, funding roadblocks, and having jurisdiction and/or local government. financial restrictions we experience today. These demands are not COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. practical or possible to fund or deploy. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a minimum requirements for fire department services, including document addressing fire department deployment and staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a organization. document addressing fire department deployment and organization. ______(Log #196) 1710- 360 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Patrick J. Kenny, Village of Hinsdale (Log #61) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 356 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: Noel Hardin, Asotin County Fire District #1 These companies shall be staffed with a minimum number of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 personnel determined by the local fire authority in order to meet RECOMMENDATION: 5.2.2.1.1: Delete all of Chapter 5 in Section 5.2.3.2. regard to staffing minimum four person engine to five or six SUBSTANTIATION: How a particular company is staffed in requirement. quantity is not the issue versus the total number needed on the SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing requirements too costly. We would scene for a full alarm assignment. have to wait too long for volunteers. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent organization. requirements. ______

(Log #74) (Log #238) 1710- 357 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject 1710- 361 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Replace the entire section with the RECOMMENDATION: Move to Annex A 5.2.2.1.1. These following verbiage: companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on-duty These companies shall be staffed with a minimum number of personnel. on-duty personnel as determined by the expected firefighting SUBSTANTIATION: There is no evidence that four persons conditions, geographical restrictions, results of the task analysis responding on a single apparatus is any more effective than four performed under 5.2.1.1, and other pertinent factors as identified persons responding on two pieces of apparatus. The goal should by the authority having jurisdiction. be to have four individuals at the scene. Establishing a standard of SUBSTANTIATION: Section 5.2.2.1.1 contradicts Section 5.2.1.1 four persons on an engine company will pose an economically in that 5.2.1.1 requires staffing to be based on expected unacceptable requirement on many jurisdictions. This is an firefighting conditions and task analysis of specific listed factors. appropriate inclusion in the annex. The proposed language in 5.2.2.1.1 specifies a predetermined COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. number of personnel with no rational or objective criteria to COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire justify staffing at four personnel. department minimum staffing requirements are a critical COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire The Annex is used for explanatory text, not recommended department minimum staffing requirements are a critical requirements. The AHJ may establish more stringent component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. requirements. In reference to responding on 2 pieces of The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. apparatus, see Committee Comment 1710-156 (Log #CC3). ______

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(Log #311) SUBSTANTIATION: Delete entire section/paragraph. Already 1710- 362 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject addressed by section/paragraph 5.2.1.2.1. This would allow each SUBMITTER: Dwight James, Rochester, WA community to determine staffing levels based upon specific needs COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 of that community and not a generic standard. RECOMMENDATION: Delete four minute response time COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. requirement in 1710. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Delete minimum staffing requirement of four-person engine minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary companies and five or six person companies for tactical hazards. for a document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: Here in the west, our volunteer fire organization. fighters have to take the engine and the tender to most of our fires. We often can only muster 2 or 3 volunteers to get the ______equipment to the calls, while others trickle in, in their own vehicles. We have been getting the job done for over 50 years. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #663) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for 1710- 366 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). SUBMITTER: Jackie T. Gibbs, Marietta Fire and Emergency Services ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on-duty personnel. (Log #343) SUBSTANTIATION: This form requires a reason for a 1710- 363 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject proposed change. I challenge the committee to give the SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. justification for this requirement. Fire departments are operating COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 safely and effectively nationwide with less than 4 people on a RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: company. All NFPA standards are based on a concept of the "These companies shall be safely staffed to meet the fire minimum required. This concept cannot be justified in a potential of the community served." minimum standard. SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing needs vary based on the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. responsibilities of the companies, the area covered, the response COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that time and the existence built in fire protection systems. The minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary requirement to add staff while the actual fire fighting needs have for a document addressing fire department deployment and declined due to major fire prevention efforts, can and will organization. jeopardize future fire prevention development by communities that realize the intelligence of prevention over suppression. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary (Log #687) for a document addressing fire department deployment and 1710- 367 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject organization. SUBMITTER: John Corbly, City of Champaign Fire Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: These companies shall should be staffed with a minimum of four on-duty personnel. (Log #367) SUBSTANTIATION: The primary purpose of requiring 1710- 364 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject additional staffing is to enhance firefighter safety. We do not ask SUBMITTER: Leon J. Thomas, Kitsap Fire District #14 our (3) person companies to take on any task that would be COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 unsafe to any of the personnel. The wording I have RECOMMENDATION: Move 5.2.2.1.1. recommended provides local jurisdictions flexibility and is Move to annex A.5.2.2.1.1 to read as follows: consistent with NFPA 1500. These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on- COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. duty personnel. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first SUBSTANTIATION: There is no evidence that 4 persons initiated, the committee considered the different documents it responding on a single apparatus is any more effective than four had the authority to write and concluded that the development of persons responding on two pieces of apparatus. The goal should a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire be to have four individuals at the scene. service. The committee has proceeded to develop the As an elected Fire Commissioner in a small Fire District of 25 requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting square miles, I find that the proposed standards 1710 and 1720 document will strengthen the deployment of resources in are not attainable with our present financial and community base. communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. We have 2200 registered voters in our community and have a Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change budget of approximately $480,000 per year with a budget of 106 this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire percent increase for the next year. We have a total of 290 calls per departments and the communities they protect without a standard year, 91 percent medical and 9 percent fire. We are staffed by two to provide clear direction for improvement of services. paid Fire Fighter/EMT Monday through Friday 8AM-4:30PM, with the help of 14 Volunteers (8 EMT and 5 Fire Fighters) for nights ______and weekends. Our three Commissioner Board does not feel that we need the minimum standard of response time and crew size set for use by (Log #698) an outside body. The response time and crew size is dictated to 1710- 368 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject us by our community and their willingness to provide us with SUBMITTER: Steve Smith, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety volunteers and tax money to support a paid staff. District COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Comment 1710-361 (Log #238). These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . ______SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time (Log #563) objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing 1710- 365 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. SUBMITTER: Keith MacIsaac, Wheeling Fire Department COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire section/paragraph.

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COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that (Log #731) minimum requirements for fire department services, including 1710- 372 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a SUBMITTER: David Callon, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety document addressing fire department deployment and District organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on ______duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and (Log #702) the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time 1710- 369 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing SUBMITTER: Roy Bleikamp, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. District COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: minimum requirements for fire department services, including These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and requirements. the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing ______down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that (Log #784) minimum requirements for fire department services, including 1710- 373 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a SUBMITTER: Steve Trackwell, Federal Way Fire Department document addressing fire department deployment and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: requirements. These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four two on-duty personnel. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Some of our fire apparatus only has lap belt provided seating for two (2) personnel - staffing of four minimum would create a major safety violation putting fire (Log #713) personnel at undue risk. 1710- 370 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Frank Peep, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire District department minimum staffing requirements of four members are COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: departments. See Comment 1710-156 (CC3) which allows for These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on different company configurations. duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine ______companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time (Log #803) objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing 1710- 374 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: minimum requirements for fire department services, including "These companies should shall be staffed with a minimum of staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a four on-duty personnel." document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have 4 or more organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent personnel on every company, the level of staffing is the decision requirements. of the governing body. The staffing levels identified in the draft document should be provided as recommended levels. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first initiated, the committee considered the different documents it (Log #720) had the authority to write and concluded that the development of 1710- 371 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire SUBMITTER: Clint Olson, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety service. The committee has proceeded to develop the District requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document will strengthen the deployment of resources in RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine departments and the communities they protect without a standard companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and to provide clear direction for improvement of services. the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing ______down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #823) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 375 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBMITTER: Duane M. Malo, Washington State Assn. of Fire staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a Chiefs document addressing fire department deployment and COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent RECOMMENDATION: Delete text. requirements. SUBSTANTIATION: This text conflicts with 5.2.1.1 that states fire suppression personnel shall be comprised of the number ______necessary for firefighting performance relative to the expected fire-fighting conditions. That number, in fact, may be lower than four. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject.

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COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first department minimum staffing requirements of four members are initiated, the committee considered the different documents it a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire had the authority to write and concluded that the development of departments. a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire service. The committee has proceeded to develop the ______requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting document will strengthen the deployment of resources in communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. (Log #867) Inserting the word "recommended" at this time would change this 1710- 376 - (5-2.2.1.1): Reject document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire SUBMITTER: Bud Backer, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety departments and the communities they protect without a standard District to provide clear direction for improvement of services. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: ______"These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on duty personnel. The authority having jurisdiction shall determine the staffing level of the company, based on a community risk (Log #510) assessment." 1710- 379 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.1.2, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: The size of the company assigned to a SUBMITTER: Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department station should be left up to the local community to decide what is COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 needed. Size of the community and hazards presented should be RECOMMENDATION: Delete all wording pertaining to staffing considered along with the financial resources of the community by a specific minimum number of on-duty personnel or members and fire department. in Chapter 5, Sections 5.2.2.1.1, 5.2.2.1.1, 5.2.2.1.2, 5.2.2.2.1 and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 5.2.2.2.2, i.e. "These companies shall be staffed with a minimum COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that of ___ on-duty personnel." or "__ on-duty members." minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBSTANTIATION: These sections of Chapter 5 dictate staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a minimum staffing of companies. By doing so, these sections document addressing fire department deployment and usurp the ability of local, duly elected, public officials and local organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent taxpayers to determine the level of fire protection for which they requirements. are willing to pay. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire department minimum staffing requirements of four members are a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire (Log #929) departments. 1710- 377 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.1.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Gregg A. Cleveland, Marshfield Fire and Rescue ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: 5.2.2.1.1 and 5.2.2.1.2 should be deleted (Log #507) in their entirety. 1710- 380 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.1.2, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2 & 5-2.2.4): SUBSTANTIATION: The Committee’s attempt to dictate Reject staffing requirements circumvents the state collective bargaining SUBMITTER: Robert L. Ridgeway, Gastonia Fire Dept. process by giving unionized fire fighters minimum apparatus COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 staffing. For example, staffing under the Wisconsin collective RECOMMENDATION: Eliminate in their entirety. bargaining law is not a mandatory subject of bargaining and has SUBSTANTIATION: Determinations on company staffing been exclusively recognized as a management right. Standards should be left to the Authority Having Jurisdiction, and do not adopted by states will automatically provide staffing requirements belong in this standard. Although 4-person company staffing is a and undermine the collective bargaining process. laudable goal that may be suitable for inclusion as a TIA, no firm In addition, the Technical Committee has made a studies exist to support a claim of a four member minimum determination that additional personnel are required on the fire staffing. ground but does not bring in mandatory physical fitness COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. requirements for fire fighters. Having this standard refer to other COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire NFPA documents (e.g. medical requirements for firefighters) is department minimum staffing requirements are a critical insufficient in this case. Simply providing additional personnel on component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. the scenes of emergencies does not resolve the issues involved The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. with fire fighter safety. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire department minimum staffing requirements of four members are (Log #673) a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire 1710- 381 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.1.2, 5-2.3.1.1): Reject departments, and the AHJ may determine if additional staffing is SUBMITTER: Harold Seaberg, Poolsbo, WA needed per requirement of 5.2.2.1.2. Regarding the submitter’s COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 substantiation this standard requires the implementation of NFPA RECOMMENDATION: None 1500, which outlines the requirements for a fire department’s SUBSTANTIATION: Kitsap Fire District 18 covers 50 square medical and physical fitness programs. It is standard practice to miles and has a population of 25000 people. It is beyond the reference other NFPA Standards. district’s tax base to provide minimum standards for staffing and response time for NFPA 1710. At our present growth rate it will ______take many years to reach that tax base. Please consider the impact on small cities and districts. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #299) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not recommend 1710- 378 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.1.2, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2): Reject any language for the committee to consider. SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Insert "recommended" before minimum of XXX on-duty members in each section. (Log #737) SUBSTANTIATION: Rural and small career fire departments 1710- 382 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1): Reject may only have 4 to 8 paid on-duty personnel available SUBMITTER: Scott W. Kenley, City of Lodi immediately. They rely on off-duty and/or volunteers to augment COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the staffing when an incident occurs. The proposed text will RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: recognize these limitations. These companies shall be staffed with a number reflective of the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. expected fire-fighting conditions as determined in 5.2.1.1. Minimum of four on duty personnel.

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SUBSTANTIATION: If the AHJ determines that they will not (Log #107) perform interior fire fighting duties or ventilation then the on- 1710- 386 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1, and 5-7.7.1.1): duty staffing should reflect that decision. Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Arthur Getchman, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire Protection District 8 department minimum staffing requirements are a critical COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. subparagraphs. SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision ______of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that used in subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1, and 5.2.1.2.1. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #32) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 383 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1, 5-7.5.1.1): minimum requirements for fire department services, including Reject staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life document addressing fire department deployment and Safety organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements. RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of each subsection. SUBSTANTIATION: See A.4.1.1. The number of staff should ______be left to the AHJ as stated in 5.2.2. Fire companies are not at risk in quarters or enroute, from hazards mitigated by the size of the crew. At an incident, crews may be assembled from response (Log #112) units to deal with specific jobs. Use language similar to 5.6.4.1 1710- 387 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1, and 5-7.7.1.1): and/or 5.7.4.2.1, 5.2.1.2.1. Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire Protection District 8 department minimum staffing requirements are a critical COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. subparagraphs. SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision ______of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that used in subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1, and 5.2.1.2.1. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #92) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 384 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1 and 5-7.7.1.1): minimum requirements for fire department services, including Reject staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection document addressing fire department deployment and District 8 organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements. RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these subparagraphs. ______SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that (Log #227) used in subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1 and 5.2.1.2.1. 1710- 388 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1, and 5-7.7.1.1): COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection minimum requirements for fire department services, including District # 7 staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document addressing fire department deployment and RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent subparagraphs. requirements. SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that used in Subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1 and 5.2.1.2.1. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including (Log #99) staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a 1710- 385 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1 and 5-7.7.1.1): document addressing fire department deployment and Reject organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection requirements. District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these subparagraphs. (Log #256) SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision 1710- 389 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1 and 5-7.7.1.1): of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that Reject used in subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1 and 5.2.1.2.1. SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Protection District # 7 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum requirements for fire department services, including RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a subparagraphs. document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that requirements. used in Subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1 and 5.2.1.2.1. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. ______

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(Log #261) (Log #73) 1710- 390 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1 and 5-7.7.1.1): 1710- 393 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject Reject SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department SUBMITTER: Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 District #7 RECOMMENDATION: Replace the entire section with the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 following verbiage: RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these These companies shall be staffed with a minimum number of subparagraphs. on-duty personnel as determined by the expected firefighting SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision conditions, geographical restrictions, results of the task analysis of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that performed under 5.2.1.1, and other pertinent factors as identified used in Subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1 and 5.2.1.2.1. by the authority having jurisdiction. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: Section 5.2.2.1.2 contradicts Section 5.2.1.1 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that in that 5.2.1.1 requires staffing to be based on expected minimum requirements for fire department services, including firefighting conditions and task analysis of specific listed factors. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a The proposed language in 5.2.2.1.2 specifies a predetermined document addressing fire department deployment and number of personnel with no rational or objective criteria to organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent justify staffing at five or six personnel. requirements. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire ______department minimum staffing requirements are a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. (Log #272) 1710- 391 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.2.2.1, 5-2.2.2.2, 5-5.5.1.1 and 5-7.7.1.1): ______Reject SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire Protection District #7 (Log #130) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 394 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department subparagraphs. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: The level of staffing should be a decision RECOMMENDATION: Delete all or use some verbage as of the Authority Having Jurisdiction. Use language similar to that 5.2.2.3.1. used in Subparagraphs 5.6.4.1, 5.7.4.2.1 and 5.2.1.2.1. SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing levels should be left to authority COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. having jurisdiction and/or local government. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a department minimum staffing requirements are a critical document addressing fire department deployment and component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. requirements. ______(Log #131) (Log #569) 1710- 395 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject 1710- 392 - (5-2.2.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department SUBMITTER: William L. Nesmith, Hillsborough County Fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Rescue RECOMMENDATION: Delete all or use some verbage as COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 5.2.2.3.1. RECOMMENDATION: 1. 5.2.2.1.1 Staffing. Should be SUBSTANTIATION: Since all other apparatus manning levels determined by local jurisdiction. were specified, why was this left to discretion. Either 5 or 6? 2. 5.2.3.2.1 Initial Arriving Company. This is not possible in Looks like a compromise while writing the standard. Either state some areas depending on urban, suburban, or rural a minimum of 5 personnel or don’t bother. environments that make up departments’ response areas. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 3. 5.3.3.3.2.2. Staffing. The State of Florida requires a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum of one paramedic and one EMT on any ALS transport minimum requirements for fire department services, including vehicle. This is adequate as far as a minimum requirement. The staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a local jurisdiction should dictate if two paramedics are assigned to document addressing fire department deployment and an ALS transport unit. organization. The AHJ shall determine if they staff to either the 5 SUBSTANTIATION: 1. Many departments do not have the or 6 based on the hazards. personnel available nor the financial capability to hire additional personnel to staff fire companies with four (4) personnel. This is ______an unreasonable request. 2. More lenient response times to areas that have less tactical hazards has to be considered. Most cities and counties are not (Log #345) able to commit the resources necessary to achieve a 4 or 8 minute 1710- 396 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject response time to some locations within their jurisdiction. SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. 3. Many departments are unable to provide two paramedics for COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 an ALS transport unit. In most emergency situations, one RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire section. paramedic and one EMT is sufficient to resolve the situation. SUBSTANTIATION: Unnecessary language once correction of COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 5.2.2.1.1 has been made to show safe staffing without arbitrary COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire numbers. department minimum staffing requirements are a critical COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. department minimum staffing requirements are a critical Additionally, the submitter did not provide any text for the component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. committee to consider at 5.2.2.1.1 & 5.2.3.2.1. Regarding The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. Note: submitter’s comment on 5.3.3.3.2.2, see Committee Action on there was no correction or change to 5.2.2.1.1. Comment 1710-555 (Log #845). ______

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(Log #699) (Log #721) 1710- 397 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject 1710- 400 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Steve Smith, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety SUBMITTER: Clint Olson, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: In jurisdictions with tactical high hazard occupancies, high In jurisdictions with tactical high hazard occupancies, high incident frequencies geographical restrictions or other pertinent incident frequencies geographical restrictions or other pertinent factors as identified by the AHJ, the companies shall be staffed factors as identified by the AHJ, the companies shall be staffed with a minimum of five or six on duty personnel as established by with a minimum of five or six on duty personnel as established by the AHJ . the AHJ . SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing down of stations(s) resulting in increased response times. down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. requirements. ______

(Log #703) (Log #732) 1710- 398 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject 1710- 401 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Roy Bleikamp, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety SUBMITTER: David Callon, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: In jurisdictions with tactical high hazard occupancies, high In jurisdictions with tactical high hazard occupancies, high incident frequencies geographical restrictions or other pertinent incident frequencies geographical restrictions or other pertinent factors as identified by the AHJ, the companies shall be staffed factors as identified by the AHJ, the companies shall be staffed with a minimum of five or six on duty personnel as established by with a minimum of five or six on duty personnel as established by the AHJ . the AHJ . SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. requirements. ______

(Log #714) (Log #804) 1710- 399 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject 1710- 402 - (5-2.2.1.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Frank Peep, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: "In jurisdictions with tactical hazards, high hazard occupancies, In jurisdictions with tactical high hazard occupancies, high high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions, or other incident frequencies geographical restrictions or other pertinent pertinent factors as identified by the authority having jurisdiction, factors as identified by the AHJ, the companies shall be staffed these companies should shall be staffed with a minimum of five with a minimum of five or six on duty personnel as established by or six on-duty personnel." the AHJ . SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have 5, 6 or more SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine personnel on every company, the level of staffing is the decision companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and of the governing body. The staffing levels identified in the draft the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time document should be provided as recommended levels. objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a minimum requirements for fire department services, including document addressing fire department deployment and staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent document addressing fire department deployment and requirements. See also Committee Statement for Comment 1710- organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent 299 (Log#863). requirements. ______

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(Log #326) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 403 - (5-2.2.1.2, 5-2.2.2.2): Reject minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document addressing fire department deployment and RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of 5-2.2.1.2 and 5-2.2.2.2 to organization based on a standard structural fire incident of a 2000 read as follows: sq. ft. structure. The AHJ may establish more stringent The authority having jurisdiction shall determine if, where and requirements as allowed in 5.2.2.1.2 for what they identify as when it is necessary to staff these companies with additional on- stactical or high hazard occupancy. duty personnel. This determination shall be based on the nature of the service area, including specific tactical hazards, incident ______frequency and other factors. SUBSTANTIATION: As proposed these paragraphs create an (Log #685) unenforceable mandatory requirement. A mandatory 1710- 405 - (5-2.2.2): Reject requirement cannot require optional levels of compliance ("5 or SUBMITTER: K.G. Sim, Winnipeg Emergency Response Service 6") - there must be a specific minimum requirement (i.e. "at least COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 5" or "at least 6"). RECOMMENDATION: Delete text as follows: In addition, the proposed conditions that would make these In jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high hazard requirements applicable could arguably be applied to almost any occupancies are identified, these companies shall be staffed with area. This will inevitably result in disagreements over where and a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on duty personnel. when additional staffing should be required. If the criteria can SUBSTANTIATION: Minimum staff should not be variable. only be applied judgmentally, the standard should clearly state Document is inconsistent with this text. that it is the responsibility of the authority having jurisdiction to COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. make the determination. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that for a document addressing fire department deployment and minimum requirements for fire department services, including organization. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a ______document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent (Log #755) requirements. 1710- 406 - (5-2.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Fire companies whose primary functions are to perform the (Log #573) variety of services associated with truck work, such as forcible 1710- 404 - (5-2.2.2): Reject entry, ventilation, search and rescue, aerial operations for water SUBMITTER: Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. delivery, utility control, illumination, overhaul, and salvage work, COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 shall be known as ladder truck companies. These companies RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on-duty personnel. In "Fire companies whose primary functions are to perform the jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high hazard occupancies variety of services associated with truck work, such as forcible are identified, these companies shall be staffed with a minimum entry, ventilation, search and rescue, aerial operations for water of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel respond with sufficient delivery and rescue, utility control, illumination, overhaul, and staff and companies to allow for firefighters to provide for their salvage work, shall be known as ladder truck companies. These safety as they mitigate the emergency. companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on-duty SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following personnel. In jurisdictions were tactical hazards and high hazard comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a occupancies are identified, these compancies shall be staffed with belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience a minimunb of five (5) or six (6) on-duty personnel respond wih and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be sufficient staff and companies to allow for firefighters to provide generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk for their safety as they mitigate the emergency." levels based on community hazards and scientific information SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a and life safety circumstances. belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience The current language assumes that the level of risks and hazards and data according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be within all communities are the same and that they have the same generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk level of acceptable risk to the community. The key here is that levels based on community hazards and scientific information firefighter safety should not be compromised even if the citizens such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire in a given community choose a higher level of personal risk. and life safety circumstances. There is more than one approach to insure firefighter safety. In The current language assumes that the level of risk and hazards one community a minimum of three (3) may be safe while in within all communities are the same and they have the same level another it may take more than four (4). In any case, the level of of acceptable risk to the community. The key here is that service needs to be analyzed and set at the local level based upon firefighter safety should not be compromised even if the citizens an analysis of the communities hazard vulnerability and the in a given community choose a higher level of personal risk. desired level of service. There is more than one approach to insure firefighter safety. In The standard does not allow for consideration of built in one community a minimum of three (3) may be safe while in protection, new technology (e.g. compressed air foam system) or another it may take more than four (4). In any case the level of the differences in actual level of risks within a community. I agree service needs to be analyzed and set at the local level based upon that the staffing must provide for firefighter safety and timely an analysis of the communities hazard vulnerability and their response. However, that level of service must be a matter of local desired level of service. decision. There is also a major contradiction. The standard does The standard does not allow for consideration of built in not allow for local discretion in basic response, yet it leaves it protection, new technology (e.g. compressed air foam system) or totally up to the local jurisdiction in high hazard operation such the differences in actual level of risks within a community. I as hazardous materials and special operations . Local government agree that the staffing must provide for firefighter safety and timely has the right to set levels of service in all areas based on their response. However, that level of service must be a matter of local desired level of service as long as firefighter safety is provided for. decision. There is also a major contradiction. The standard COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. does not allow for local discretion in basic response, yet it leaves COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that it totally up to the local jurisdiction in high hazard operation minimum requirements for fire department services, including such as hazardous materials and special operations. Local staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a government has the right to set levels of service in all areas based document addressing fire department deployment and on their desired level of service as long as firefighter safety is organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent provided for. requirements. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______

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(Log #789) 1710- 407 - (5-2.2.2): Reject (Log #132) SUBMITTER: Terry Ollis, Everett Fire Department 1710- 409 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Fire companies whose primary functions are to perform the RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. variety of services associated with truck work, such as forcible SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing levels should be left to authority entry, ventilation, search and rescue, serial operations for water having jurisdiction and/or local government. delivery and rescue, utility control, illumination, overhaul, and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. salvage work, shall be known as ladder truck companies. These COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four (4) on duty minimum requirements for fire department services, including personnel. In jurisdictions where tactical hazards and high hazard staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a occupancies are identified, these companies shall be staffed with document addressing fire department deployment and a minimum of five (5) or six (6) on duty personnel respond with organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent sufficient staff and companies to allow for firefighters to provide requirements. for their safety as they mitigate the emergency. SUBSTANTIATION: I respectfully resubmit the following ______comments for reconsideration. They were rejected based on a belief that the standard is based on scientific study, experience and date according to A.1.2.1. Unfortunately, they appear to be (Log #197) generic and do not sufficiently allow for considering the risk 1710- 410 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject levels based on community hazards and scientific information SUBMITTER: Patrick J. Kenny, Village of Hinsdale such as built in protection, type of construction and other fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 and life safety circumstances. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: The current language assumes that the level of risks and hazards These companies shall be staffed with a minimum number of within all communities are the same and that they have the same personnel determined by the local fire authority in order to meet level of acceptable risk to the community. The key here is that Section 5.2.3.2. firefighter safety should not be compromised even if the citizens SUBSTANTIATION: How a particular company is staffed in in a given community choose a higher level of personal risk. quantity is not the issue versus the total number needed on the There is more than one approach to insure firefighter safety. In scene for a full alarm assignment. one community a minimum of three (3) may be safe while in COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. another it may take more than four(4). In any case, the level of COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that service needs to be analyzed and set at the local level based upon minimum requirements for fire department services, including an analysis of the communities hazard vulnerability and the staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a desired level of service. document addressing fire department deployment and The standard does not allow for consideration of built in organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent protection, new technology (e.g. compressed air foam system) or requirements. the differences in actual level of risks within a community. I agree that the staffing must provide for firefighter safety and timely ______response. However, that level of service must be a matter of local decision. There is also a major contradiction. The standard does not allow for local discretion in basic response, yet it leaves it (Log #239) totally up to the local jurisdiction in high hazard operation such 1710- 411 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject as hazardous materials and special operations. Local government SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 has the right to set levels of service in all areas based on their COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 desired level of service as long as firefighter safety is provide for. RECOMMENDATION: Move to Annex A 5.2.2.2.1. These COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on-duty COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that personnel. minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBSTANTIATION: There is no evidence that four persons staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a responding on a single piece of apparatus is any more effective document addressing fire department deployment and than four persons responding on two pieces of apparatus. The organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent goal should be to have four individuals at the scene. Establishing requirements. a standard of four persons on an engine company will pose an economically unacceptable requirement on many jurisdictions. ______This is an appropriate inclusion in the annex. The proposed staffing requirements of 5.2 (Fire Suppression); (Log #72) 5.5 (Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting Services); 5.6 (Marine 1710- 408 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject Rescue and Firefighting Services) and 5.7 (Wildland Fire SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department Suppression Services) are inconsistent as written. 5.2 mandates COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 specific levels, while 5.5, 5.6 and 5.7 states "On-duty ____ RECOMMENDATION: Replace the entire section with the personnel shall be comprised of the numbers necessary for safe following verbiage: and effective firefighting performance relative to the expected These companies shall be staffed with a minimum number of ______conditions." This same standard should be used for 5.2. on-duty personnel as determined by the expected firefighting COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. conditions, geographical restrictions, results of the task analysis COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire performed under 5.2.1.1, and other pertinent factors as identified department minimum staffing requirements are a critical by the authority having jurisdiction. component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. SUBSTANTIATION: Section 5.2.2.2.1 contradicts Section The Annex is used for explanatory text not recommended 5.2.2.2.1 in that 5.2.1.1 requires staffing to be based on expected requirements. The AHJ may establish more stringent firefighting conditions and task analysis of specific listed factors. requirements. The proposed language of 5.2.2.2.1 specifies a predetermined number of personnel with no rational or objective criteria to ______justify staffing at four personnel. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. ______

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(Log #344) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire 1710- 412 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject department minimum staffing requirements of four members are SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 departments. The AHJ may establish more stringent RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: requirements. See Committee Comment 1710-156 (Log #CC3). "These companies shall be safely staffed to meet the fire ______potential of the community served." SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing needs vary based on the responsibilities of the companies, the area covered, the response time and the existence built in fire protection systems. The (Log #664) requirement to add staff while the actual fire fighting needs have 1710- 416 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject declined due to major fire prevention efforts, can and will SUBMITTER: Jackie T. Gibbs, Marietta Fire and Emergency jeopardize future fire prevention development by communities Services that realize the intelligence of prevention over suppression. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: These companies shall be staffed with a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum of four on-duty personnel. minimum requirements for fire department staffing are necessary SUBSTANTIATION: Delete without substitution. Section 5.2.2 for a document addressing fire department deployment and of NFPA 1710 is the appropriate language. This is a minimum organization. standard as proposed. The minimum of 4 people has not been justified by the committee or any other nationally recognized ______agency. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire (Log #564) department minimum staffing requirements of four members are 1710- 413 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire SUBMITTER: Keith MacIsaac, Wheeling Fire Department departments. Staffing levels have been justified by this committee. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire section/paragraph. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Delete entire section/paragraph. Already addressed by section/paragraph 5.2.1.2.1. This would allow each community to determine staffing levels based upon specific needs (Log #700) of that community and not a generic standard. 1710- 417 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Steve Smith, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire District department minimum staffing requirements are a critical COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on duty personnel as established by the authority having jursidiction . ______SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and (Log #647) the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time 1710- 414 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing SUBMITTER: Allen Church, Federal Way Fire Dept., WA down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: These companies shall be staffed with a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum of four on-duty personnel, which may be deployed minimum requirements for fire department services, including from multiple apparatus responding from more than one fire staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a station. document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: My proposal takes into consideration organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent departments who have worked for many years to get up to 3 requirements. person staffing on an engine company. If the deployment standard is performance based and determined by the number of ______personnel arriving at the scene, how they get there should be left to AHJ. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #704) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire 1710- 418 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject department minimum staffing requirements of four members are SUBMITTER: Roy Bleikamp, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire District departments. The AHJ may establish more stringent COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements. See Committee Comment 1710-156 (Log #CC3). RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on ______duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and (Log #650) the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time 1710- 415 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing SUBMITTER: Allen Church, Federal Way Fire Dept., WA down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: These companies tasks shall be staffed COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that assigned to companies with a minimum of four on-duty minimum requirements for fire department services, including personnel working under the direction of an officer . staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a SUBSTANTIATION: The rationale for my proposed change is document addressing fire department deployment and to focus in on the task needing to be completed, rather than organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent focusing on apparatus staffing. Companies of 4 to complete the requirements. tasks referred to by the aforementioned standard can be assigned at the scene and does not require minimum apparatus staffing. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject.

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(Log #715) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire 1710- 419 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject department minimum staffing requirements of four members are SUBMITTER: Frank Peep, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire District departments COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: ______These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine (Log #806) companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and 1710- 423 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 710-599 down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "These companies should shall be staffed with a minimum of COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that four on-duty personnel." minimum requirements for fire department services, including SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have 4 or more staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a personnel on every company, the level of staffing is the decision document addressing fire department deployment and of the governing body. The staffing levels identified in the draft organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent document should be provided as recommended levels. requirements. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first ______initiated, the committee considered the different documents it had the authority to write and concluded that the development of a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire (Log #722) service. The committee has proceeded to develop the 1710- 420 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting SUBMITTER: Clint Olson, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety document will strengthen the deployment of resources in District communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on departments and the communities they protect without a standard duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . to provide clear direction for improvement of services. SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and ______the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. (Log #824) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 424 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that SUBMITTER: Duane M. Malo, Washington State Assn. of Fire four minute and eight minute time requirements are critical Chiefs components of the deployment standard for career fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- RECOMMENDATION: Delete text. 168 (Log # 841) and 1710-173 (Log # 843). SUBSTANTIATION: This text conflicts with 5.2.1.1 that states fire suppression personnel shall be comprised of the number ______necessary for firefighting performance relative to the expected fire-fighting conditions. That number, in fact, may be lower than four. (Log #733) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 421 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire SUBMITTER: David Callon, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety department minimum staffing requirements of four members are District a critical component of a deployment standard for career fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 departments. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on ______duty personnel as established by the authority having jurisdiction . SUBSTANTIATION: Many fire departments staff engine companies with three personnel, due to financial constraints and (Log #866) the need to have more fire stations in meeting response time 1710- 425 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject objectives. Increasing staffing to four would require the closing SUBMITTER: Bud Backer, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety down of station(s) resulting in increased response times. District COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: minimum requirements for fire department services, including "These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a duty personnel. The authority having jurisdiction shall determine document addressing fire department deployment and the staffing level of the company, based on a community risk organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent assessment." requirements. SUBSTANTIATION: The size of the company assigned to a station should be left up to the local community to decide what is ______needed. Size of the community and hazards presented should be considered along with the financial resources of the community and fire department. (Log #785) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 422 - (5-2.2.2.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that SUBMITTER: Steve Trackwell, Federal Way Fire Department minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: document addressing fire department deployment and These companies (ladder) shall be staffed with a minimum of organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent four two on duty personnel. requirements. SUBSTANTIATION: Truck company evolutions are based upon the apparatus arriving on scene, not the number of personnel on ______board - example elevated master stream operations required two personnel only! COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject.

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(Log #133) of the governing body. The staffing levels identified in the draft 1710- 426 - (5-2.2.2.2): Reject document should be provided as recommended levels. SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first RECOMMENDATION: Delete all or use same verbiage as initiated, the committee considered the different documents it 5.2.2.3.1. had the authority to write and concluded that the development of SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing levels should be left to authority a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire having jurisdiction and/or local government. service. The committee has proceeded to develop the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that document will strengthen the deployment of resources in minimum requirements for fire department services, including communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change document addressing fire department deployment and this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent departments and the communities they protect without a standard requirements. to provide clear direction for improvement of services. ______

(Log #240) (Log #327) 1710- 427 - (5-2.2.2.2): Reject 1710- 430 - (5-2.2.4): Accept in Principle SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Move to Annex A 5.2.2.2.2: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of 5-2.2.4 to read as follows: A.5.2.2.2.2 In jurisdictions with tactical hazards, high hazard "Fire companies that respond with quint apparatus, designed to occupancies, high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions, operate as either an engine company or a ladder company, shall or other pertinent factors as identified by the authority having be staffed as specified in 5-2.2. If the company is expected to jurisdiction, these companies shall be staffed with a minimum of perform multiple roles simultaneously, additional staffing shall be fire or six on-duty personnel. provided to ensure that those operations can be performed What is the minimum five or six? If this is a minimum standard effectively and safely." a decision needs to be made by the committee. SUBSTANTIATION: The suggested language eliminates SUBSTANTIATION: There is no evidence that five persons ambiguity in the application of the requirement. responding on a single apparatus is any more effective than five COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. persons responding on two or more pieces of apparatus. The Accept the submitter’s changes with the following additional goal should be to have five individuals at the scene to perform modifications: this function. Establishing a standard of five persons on a truck Change the word "respond" to "deploy". Add the words ", above company will pose an economically unacceptable requirement on the levels specified in 5.2.2," after the words "additional staffing" many jurisdictions. This is an appropriate inclusion in the annex. and change "effectively and safely" to "safely, effectively, and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. efficiently". COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The Committee has further department minimum staffing requirements for high hazard modified the submitter’s comment to maintain editorial occupancies, high incident frequencies, and geographical consistency within the document. restrictions shall be a minimum of five or six members as identified by the AHJ and this is a critical component of a ______deployment standard for career fire departments. The Annex is for explanatory text. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. (Log #134) 1710- 431 - (5-2.2.4): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: (Log #346) "Fire companies that deploy with quint apparatus designed to 1710- 428 - (5-2.2.2.2): Reject act as either an engine company and/or ladder company shall be SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. staffed as specified in 5.2.2. 5.2.2.3.1." COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing levels should be left to authority RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire section. having jurisdiction and/or the local government. SUBSTANTIATION: Unnecessary language once correction of COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 5.2.2.1.1 has been made to show safe staffing without arbitrary COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that numbers. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire document addressing fire department deployment and department minimum staffing requirements for high hazard organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent occupancies, high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions requirements. shall be a minimum of five or six members as identified by the AHJ, and this is a critical component of a deployment standard ______for career fire departments. Note: there was no correction or change to 5.2.2.1.1. (Log #894) ______1710- 432 - (5-2.2.4): Reject SUBMITTER: Kirk Owen, Plano Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #807) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710- 429 - (5-2.2.2.2): Reject "...an engine company and/or a ladder company shall be staffed SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. as specified in 5.2.2 5.2.2.1.1 or 5.2.2.2.1. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Reference of the two suggested paragraphs RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: shortens the path a reader has to follow to determine the staffing "In jurisdictions with tactical hazards, high hazard occupancies, required for quint apparatus. high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions, or other COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. pertinent factors as identified by the authority having jurisdiction, COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Current text is clear. these companies should shall be staffed with a minimum of five or six on-duty personnel." ______SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have 5, 6 or more personnel on every company, the level of staffing is the decision

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(Log #750) (Log #135) 1710- 433 - (5-2.2.5): Reject 1710- 435 - (5-2.3.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department Safety COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Add text as follows: "The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall be Fire companies may be assembled at the emergency scene, by deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company with a combining crews and individual members into functional units. four minute response time and/or the initial full alarm SUBSTANTIATION: The emergency operations occur at the assignment within an eight minute response time with a response emergency scene; and operations do not depend upon staff time established by the authority having jurisdiction to 90% of the members traveling together, or on the same response unit, or incidents." from the same fire station. The proposed language recognizing a SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be left to procedure that works well currently for many organizations. the authority having jurisdiction and/or the local government. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that department minimum company staffing requirements for units of minimum requirements for fire department services, including response are a critical component of a deployment standard for staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a career fire departments. See also Committee Comment 1710-156 document addressing fire department deployment and (Log #CC3). organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. ______

(Log #910) 1710- 434 - (5-2.3): Reject (Log #351) SUBMITTER: Wayne Waggoner, Tennessee Fire Code 1710- 436 - (5-2.3.1): Reject Development Committee SUBMITTER: James Hill, Fire Districts Association of California COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-288 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 3.2.3. Deployment. "Entire paragraph 3.2.3.1 Initial Arriving Company. "The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall be 3.2.3.1.1 The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company and for be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company an initial full alarm assignment soon thereafter in as timely within a four (4) minute response time and/or the full initial manner as possible taking into consideration such safety factors alarm assignment within an eight (8) minute response time to as weather conditions, road conditions and traffic congestion." ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in Section 2.1. SUBSTANTIATION: By requiring specific response times at a 3.2.3.1.1 The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall high performance, some agencies may put pressure on be deployed to provide for the arrival of an Engine Company and responding personnel that could compromise the safety of full initial alarm assignment as quickly as possible and in responders and the public, Weather, road and traffic conditions accordance with NFPA 1500. can seriously impact response times and create hazards beyond 3.2.3.1.1.1 The initial arriving company shall have the capability the control of responding units. Additionally, local constituents to initiate the functional requirements of the initial full alarm should decide levels of service based upon their willingness to assignment. fund them. SUBSTANTIATION: The initial company cannot initiate the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. functional requirements of a full alarm assignment. This would COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that have enormous fiscal impact because localities would be required four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical to build many additional stations and staff according to the component of the deployment standard for career fire proposed NFPA 1710 standard. Jurisdictions should be departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- responsible for only response times that are related to actual 168 (Log #841) and 1710-173 (Log #843). emergencies. Alarm malfunctions, wires down should not, unless a safety issue is involved, be part of the response time equation. ______The standard does not recognize built in fire suppression systems. Greater emphasis should be placed on built in protection. The committee should adopt the "Elements of Response Time" found (Log #788) in Fire and Emergency Service Self Assessment Manuals, National 1710- 437 - (5-2.3.1): Reject Fire Service Accreditation Manuals. Our committee feels that fire SUBMITTER: Michael J. Snyder, Fire Protection District Mason department should arrive as quickly and safely as possible but not County be tied to an arbitrary nationwide time element that doesn’t take COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 into account local conditions and/or geographic layout. If the RECOMMENDATION: Assignment of unobtainable response appendices are going to recognize that there are possibilities that times must be reviewed. Local control must be maintained. If response times cannot be met then the committee should take the response times are in this standard, real world numbers must be response times out of the new draft of NFPA 1710. The used! appendices do not take in consideration of any weather SUBSTANTIATION: In all areas I am familiar with conditions. geographically an arrival time of 4 minutes is not obtainable. A.4.1.3 There can be incidents or areas where the response Local control should be used to determine an acceptable level of criteria are impacted by circumstances such as response protection, response time and initial attack. A national standard personnel who are not on duty, non-staffed fire station facilities, with set times is not workable nationwide or worldwide. Set a natural barriers, traffic congestion, insufficient water supply, and reasonable goal or time. density of population or property. The reduced level of service COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. should be documented in the written organizational statement by COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The submitter did not provide any the percentage of incidents and geographical areas for which the recommended language for the committee to consider. response time criteria is achieved. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment (Log #20) and organization. 1710- 438 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Roger Coleman, East Pierce Fire and Rescue ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete the 4 minute response time requirement in Chapter 5.2.3.1.1 of NFPA 1710.

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SUBSTANTIATION: Myself, fellow fire commissioners, and the (Log #209) local community we support/represent do not believe that the 1710- 443 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject content of the proposed revisions to NFPA 1710, Chapter 5.2.3.1.1 SUBMITTER: Casey Jones, Salem Fire Department regarding the proposed 4 minute response time is not feasible or COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 financially possible with our budgets, funding and local financial RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: restrictions. Demands are not possible to fund or deploy. "The fire department’s fire suppression . . . ninety (90) percent COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. of the incidents as established in Chapter 4. The fire department’s COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that fire suppression resources shall be deployed to provide for the minimum requirements for fire department response time are arrival of an engine company and full initial alarm assignment as necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment quickly as is safely possible." and organization. SUBSTANTIATION: Requiring response times will compromise the safety of firefighters with no regard for driving conditions ______outside of their control. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: (Log #27) The committee concluded that 1710- 439 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical SUBMITTER: Robert D. Wilson, Jefferson County Fire District component of the deployment standard for career fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- RECOMMENDATION: Delete four minute response time. 168 (Log #841) and 1710-173 (Log #843). SUBSTANTIATION: It is impossible for a volunteer fire department to even get to the station in four minutes in the rural ______area! COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: (Log #241) The committee has concluded that 1710- 444 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject minimum requirements for fire department response time are SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 and organization, see proposed NFPA 1720. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall be ______deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company within a 4-minute 6-minute response time and/or the initial full alarm (Log #62) assignment within an 8-minute 10-minute response time to 90 1710- 440 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject percent 80 percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." SUBMITTER: Noel Hardin, Asotin County Fire District #1 SUBSTANTIATION: As the definitions now read, a 4-minute COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 response time is not reasonable. Of that 4-minutes, one minute is RECOMMENDATION: Delete four minute response time "turn out time" which only allows a three minute travel time. This requirement. is not adequate to reach even 80 percent of most jurisdictions. SUBSTANTIATION: Rural fire departments cannot make it to By redefining terms and allowing for the crews to move to the all sectors in four minutes. Cannot afford it. equipment, we can set a standard that is achievable by most COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. urban jurisdictions. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department response time are COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment four minute and eight minute response time requirements and and organization. the 90% performance requirement are critical components of the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see ______Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- 173 (Log #843).

(Log #81) ______1710- 441 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA (Log #285) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 445 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Delete the four-minute response time SUBMITTER: Stephen Lich, Camano Island, Wa requirement in 1710 (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: It is not in the best interests of the local RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: fire departments. "The fire department’s fire suppression . . . 90 percent of the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. incidents as established in Chapter 4 The fire department’s fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that suppression resources shall be deployed to provide for the arrival minimum requirements for fire department response time are of an engine company and full initial alarm assignment as quickly necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment as is safely possible." and organization. SUBSTANTIATION: Establishing a specific response time as a national standard completely ignores local variables, such as ______climate, terrain, population density, etc. It should be the local government’s sole responsibility to establish response standards. Forcing a short response time could well result in safety (Log #157) problems with speed factors pressuring the crews to act unsafely 1710- 442 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject in mounting rigs and driving to the scene. SUBMITTER: Pete Holtman, Pierce County Fire District 8 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Delete the four-minute response time four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical requirement in 1710 (delete Chapter 5.2.3.1.1). component of the deployment standard for career fire SUBSTANTIATION: None. departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 168 (Log #841) and 1710-173 (Log #843). COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department response time are ______necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. ______

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(Log #289) James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1258) 1710- 446 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject James Brooker, Mohawk Valley rural Fire District (Log #442) SUBMITTER: Julie McClanahan, Jefferson County Fire District Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1 (Log #632) #2 John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #584) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #394) RECOMMENDATION: Delete 4 minute response time. Not even Don Chumley, Whatcom County Fire Dist. 4 (Log #639) feasible. William H. Combs, Sutherlin, OR (Log #434) SUBSTANTIATION: We reside in a rural area. This 4 minute James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #624) response requirement is not possible. Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #378) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1196) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety minimum requirements for fire department response time are (Log #1188) necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #426) and organization. Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1250) Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #466) ______John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire And Ambulance Service (Log #556) Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District (Log #310) #4 (Log #1274) 1710- 447 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #482) SUBMITTER: Dwight James, Rochester, WA Jeff Griffin, Oregon Fire Chiefs Association (Log #1131) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Mike R. Hamel, Fire & Rescue District #1 (Log #219) RECOMMENDATION: Delete four minute response time Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #458) requirement. Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1218) SUBSTANTIATION: The committee must consider the Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 volunteer organizations structure. Our district is 36 sq. miles. A (Log #1003) fire fighter lives 4 miles east of the station the site is 4 miles east of Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #410) the station. If the fire fighter is dressed and ready to go it will Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 take at least 5 1/2 minutes to get to the station and the roll to the (Log #1079) scene. This element must be considered when formulating this Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1025) document. Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #386) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1062) minimum requirements for fire department response time are Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1139) necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log and organization. #988) Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs ______(Log #952) Michael McKinley, City of Bremerton (Log #1009) Chad E. Minter, Coburg Fire District (Log #210) (Log #320) Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #474) 1710- 448 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1226) SUBMITTER: Ruth S. Bramhall, Pierce County Fire District #16 Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 Fire Commissioner (Log #944) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1155) RECOMMENDATION: Delete four-minute response time. Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD (Log #281) Delete all of Chapter 5 in regard to staffing (5.2.2.1.1) and Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1172) Chapter 5 regarding deployment and staffing. Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #608) NFPA 1710 - it is not in the best interests of local fire Terry Reed, City of Spokane (Log #995) departments or communities. Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District SUBSTANTIATION: Living in a rural community and smaller (Log #1242) populations we are unable to build enough stations to get our Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1123) response time to four minutes - 7-10 yes. Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1164) Smaller budgets means smaller staff - even supplementary with Keith Richter, Contra Costa County Fire Protection Dist. volunteers we would not be able to comply with 4 to 6 persons (Log #503) per engine. Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1108) I have been involved in the fire department improvements have Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1204) been made but these standards would be beyond our resources. Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #1049) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #498) minimum requirements for fire department services, including Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #960) staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1017) document addressing fire department deployment and Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District organization. (Log #490) Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #600) ______Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #616) Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #12) John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1100) (Log #339) Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection District 8 1710- 449 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject (Log #163) SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1276) Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #536) Terrence N. Thomas, Walla Walla Fire Department (Log #644) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1041) Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #418) Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #975) (Log #1061) Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1180) Paul L. Benson, Chino Valley Independent Fire District Tom Wells, Sutherlin, OR (Log #1147) (Log #1210) Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 (Log #1087) (Log #592) Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #550) Chuck Boggs, Jefferson County Fire Protection District #1 Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #967) (Log #1234) Doug Branch, Boring Fire District (Log #1115) Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #402) Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #450) Keith Yamane, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1033)

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Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #937) (Log #508) Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #1266) 1710- 453 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Robert L. Ridgeway, Gastonia Fire Dept. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 "The fire department’s fire suppression ... ninety (90) percent of RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: the incidents as established in Chapter 4. The fire department’s "...provide for the arrival of an engine company within a 4- fire suppression resources shall be deployed to provide for the minute 6-minute response time and/or the initial full alarm arrival of an engine company and full initial alarm assignment as assignment within an 8-minute 10-minute response time to 90 quickly as is safely possible. percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." SUBSTANTIATION: SUBSTANTIATION: Requiring response times will compromise Changes in listed times from four minutes the safety of firefighters with no regard for driving conditions to six minutes and from eight minutes to ten minutes respectively, outside of their control. are necessary to insure compliance by ‘average’ fire departments. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. The Gastonia Fire Department has conducted in-depth analysis COMMITTEE STATEMENT: on emergency response times as a part of its participation in the The committee has concluded that National Fire Service Accreditation process. Our community minimum requirements for fire department response time are would be considered ‘above average’ for fire suppression necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment capability and response time, yet we only capable of placing the and organization. first unit on the scene in <5 minutes 80 percent of the time. I submit that there may not be a fire department in the nation that ______currently could meet an initial response time goal of 4 minutes/90 percent, thus making the goal unachievable. (Log #347) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 450 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. The committee concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 four minute and eight minute response time requirements and RECOMMENDATION: Delete section entirely . the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of SUBSTANTIATION: Since dispatch handling time is not the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see documented or maintained as part of this standard, response Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- times have no meaning and this section is simply an effort to 173 (Log #843). make believe we have a standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that four minute and eight minute response time requirements and (Log #514) the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of 1710- 454 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection Committee Actions on Comment 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- District 173 (Log #843). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete. ______SUBSTANTIATION: This is an impossible time frame to meet in many areas. (Log #353) 1) Some areas in our district are 15+ minutes response and we 1710- 451 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject are the closest department by far. SUBMITTER: Carl A. Koch, Snohemish County Fire District # 14 2) Also, if we have to wait for volunteers, we can’t make 4 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minutes 90 percent of the time. RECOMMENDATION COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. : Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that "The fire department’s fire suppression ... (90) percent of the minimum requirements for fire department response time are incidents as established in Chapter 4. The fire department’s fire necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment suppression resources shall be deployed to provide for the arrival and organization. of an Engine company and Full initial alarm assignment as quickly as is safely possible. ______SUBSTANTIATION: Requiring response times will compromise the safety of firefighters with no regard for driving conditions. (Log #515) Also for the safety of other people on our roads. 1710- 455 - (5.2.3.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that District four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 component of the deployment standard for career fire RECOMMENDATION: Delete. departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- SUBSTANTIATION: Impossible to meet some response times. 168 (Log #841) and 1710-173 (Log #843). Even if a crew is in the station, are 15+ minutes. And there is no other first responders closer. Provide Federal funds to hire more ______firefighters. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #368) Comment 1710-280 (Log #19). 1710- 452 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Linsay Chatterton, Lewis County Fire District #15 ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete in its entirety Chapter 5 of NFPA proposed standard 1710. (Log #646) SUBSTANTIATION: This proposed new standard would 1710- 456 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject prevent our fire district from responding to any incident - one SUBMITTER: Allen Church, Federal Way Fire Dept., WA due to lack of manpower, two- would require thousands of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 dollars that we are prohibited from collecting due to tax laws. RECOMMENDATION: The fire department’s fire suppression COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. resources shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that company within a 4 6- minute response time and/or the initial minimum requirements for fire department services, including full alarm assignment within an 8- 10- minute response time staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a to 90 80 percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4. document addressing fire department deployment and SUBSTANTIATION: The change I propose will provide for a organization. more reasonable response time standard, taking reaction time ______(turnout time) and traffic in most jurisdictions into consideration. The proposed change better mirrors the standard established by the military.

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COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #772) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that 1710- 460 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject four minute and eight minute response time requirements and SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- . . . engine company within a 4 minute response time 6 minute 173 (Log #843). response time and/or the initial full alarm assignment within an 8 minute 10 minute response time . . . ______SUBSTANTIATION: The scope of this standard refers to a minimum standard. As such, arrival times of 6 and 10 minutes are much more appropriate as minimums. They also match (Log #684) previously adopted standards by the Department of Defense for 1710- 457 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject military fire departments of 6 and 10 minutes respectively. SUBMITTER: K.G. Sim, Winnipeg Emergency Response Service COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Delete text as follows: four minute and eight minute response time requirements and The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall be the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company within a the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see four (4) minute response time and/or the full initial alarm Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- assignment within an eight (8) minute response . . . 173 (Log #843). SUBSTANTIATION: The reference to a four (4) minute response is not reasonable. No mention of vertical response, to ______the actual room involved or scene set up, leave the four (4) minute reference without merit. Eight minute is achievable by many departments and should be the only reference. (Log #795) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 461 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that SUBMITTER: Al H. Gillespie, Yakima Fire Dept., WA minimum requirements for fire department response time are COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: and organization. The fire department’s fire suppression . . . Ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4. The fire department’s ______fire suppression resources shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company and full initial alarm assignment as (Log #691) quickly as is safely possible. 1710- 458 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: David Ellingson, Poulsbo, WA SUBSTANTIATION: Response times should be based on COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 scientific data taking into account geography, time of day, RECOMMENDATION: Delete the 4 minute requirement for weather, etc. Otherwise firefighter safety may be compromised. response time (delete the referenced paragraph listed above). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: Our fire department serves a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that predominantly rural area and we do not have resources to meet four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical this requirement. component of the deployment standard for career fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 168 (Log #841) and 1710-173 (Log #843). minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment ______and organization. ______(Log #808) 1710- 462 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. (Log #692) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 459 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: Rich Elliot, Ellensburg Fire Department "The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall should COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: within a four (4) minutes response time and/or the full initial The fire department’s fire suppression . . . ninety (90) percent alarm assignment within an eight (8) minute response time to of the incidents as established in Chapter 4. The fire department’s ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." fire suppression resources shall be deployed to provide for the SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have a 4 and 8- arrival of an engine company and full initial alarm assignment as minute response times for deployment of fire suppression quickly as is safely possible. The jurisdiction having authority resources, response times provided are the service level decisions shall establish goals for response times consistent with public of the governing body. expectations, geographical considerations, topographical The response time levels identified in the draft document considerations and the demographics of the population served. should be provided as recommended levels. SUBSTANTIATION: Requiring response times will comprise COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. the safety of firefighters with no regard for the driving conditions COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first outside of their control. In addition, arbitrary response times initiated, the committee considered the different documents it without considering all factors for the community served. had the authority to write and concluded that the development of COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that service. The committee has proceeded to develop the minimum requirements for fire department services, including requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document will strengthen the deployment of resources in document addressing fire department deployment and communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change requirements. this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire departments and the communities they protect without a standard ______to provide clear direction for improvement of services. ______

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(Log #817) SUBSTANTIATION: We have inclement weather such as heavy 1710- 463 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject wet snow and ice unplowed roads and hazardous conditions - SUBMITTER: Frank Diluzie, City of Santa Fe safety should be a big issue! COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 To require response time of a volunteer fire department RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: frequently facing extreme weather, places our volunteers in a "The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall be hazardous situation. We do the best we can and the community deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company within a is very supportive of our efforts. 4 minute response time and/or the initial full alarm assignment COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. within an 8 minute response time to 90 percent of the incidents as COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that established in Chapter 4 the response time adopted by the four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical authority having jurisdiction. component of the deployment standard for career fire SUBSTANTIATION: The authority to establish performance departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- standards must rest with the local elected officials. 168 (Log #841) and 1710-173 (Log #843). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that ______minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and (Log #876) organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent 1710- 467 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject requirements. SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "(The fire department’s fire suppression..ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4.) (The fire (Log #821) department’s fire suppression resources shall be deployed based 1710- 464 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject on local service levels determined by the local jurisdiction having SUBMITTER: Allison Duke, III, Bremerton Fire Dept. authority and in compliance with State and Federal safety COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 standards.)" RECOMMENDATION : Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: Arbitrarily requiring aggressive minimum The fire department’s fire suppression...ninety (90) percent of response times only serves the creation of unsafe practices, to the incidents as established in Chapter 4. The fire department’s usurp local priorities, and to disregard demographic and fire suppression resources shall be deployed to provide for the geographic differences in the different regions of the country. arrival of an engine company and full initial alarm assignment in Almost all departments will not be able to comply regardless of a safe and efficient manner. this standard’s intent. SUBSTANTIATION: Requiring response times will comprise COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. the safety of firefighters with no regard for the driving conditions COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that outside of their control. Physical barriers, weather conditions minimum requirements for fire department services, including and other factors are not being factored in. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. document addressing fire department deployment and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent four minute and eight minute time requirements are a critical requirements. component of the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710- ______168 (Log #841) and 1710-173 (Log #843). ______(Log #33) 1710- 468 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life (Log #848) Safety 1710- 465 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Edmund E. Elliott, Jr., City of Chesapeake Fire RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of each subsection. Department SUBSTANTIATION: See A.4.1.1. The criteria assumes a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 compressed urban area with fire stations located within 2 miles of RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: each other. That does not exist in most of the area of the United "5.2.3.1.1 The fire department’s fire suppression resources shall States. This standard is impossible in most of the U.S., and as be deployed to provide for the arrival of an engine company such it is not appropriate as a "minimum". within a 5 4 minute response time and/or the initial full alarm COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. assignment within an 8 minute 10 minute response time to 90 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." minimum requirements for fire department response time are SUBSTANTIATION: In our city of 353 square miles, it will be necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment impossible to meet the response times as defined in this new and organization. standard. Both distance and traffic patterns make a 4-minute response out of the question in many rural areas of our city. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that (Log #91) four minute and eight minute response time requirements and 1710- 469 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see District 8 Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 173 (Log #843). RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these subparagraphs. ______SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location density that does not exist in most of the United States. The response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, (Log #861) should not be in a "minimum" standard. 1710- 466 - (5-2.3.1.1): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Kenneth W. Raasch, Odell Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum requirements for fire department response time are RECOMMENDATION: Delete time limitations. Insert wording necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment to include "arrival of engine company as quickly as conditions and organization. and safety require" ______

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(Log #98) (Log #255) 1710- 470 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject 1710- 474 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire District 8 Protection District # 7 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these subparagraphs. subparagraphs. SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location density that does not exist in most of the United States. The density that does not exist in most of the United States. The response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, should not be in a ‘minimum’ standard. should not be in a "minimum" standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department response time are minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. and organization. ______

(Log #106) (Log #262) 1710- 471 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject 1710- 475 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject SUBMITTER: Arthur Getchman, Thurston County Fire SUBMITTER: Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection Protection District 8 District #7 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these subparagraphs. subparagraphs. SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location density that does not exist in most of the United States. The density that does not exist in most of the United States. The response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, should not be in a "minimum" standard. should not be in a "minimum" standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department response time are minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. and organization. ______

(Log #113) (Log #271) 1710- 472 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject 1710- 476 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire Protection District 8 Protection District #7 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these subparagraphs. subparagraphs. SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location density that does not exist in most of the United States. The density that does not exist in most of the United States. The response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, should not be in a "minimum" standard. should not be in a "minimum" standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department response time are minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. and organization. ______

(Log #226) (Log #300) 1710- 473 - (5-2.3.1.1, 5-2.3.2.1, 5-3.3.4.2, 5-3.3.4.3): Reject 1710- 477 - (5-2.3.1.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services District # 7 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Text as printed and insert the following RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text of these after the period: subparagraphs. "prior to initiating an interior fire attack when an IDLH is SUBSTANTIATION: The criteria assumes a station location present." density that does not exist in most of the United States. The SUBSTANTIATION: A RIC is essential when an interior fire response criteria are impossible in most areas, and as such, attack is undertaken and an IDLH is present. If these conditions should not be in a "minimum" standard. are not present, manning can be used to suppress the fire, and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. firefighter safety is maintained. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department response time are COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The initial alarm assignment shall necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment have the capability to initiate an IRIC. Current text is clear. and organization. ______

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(Log #348) (Log #136) 1710- 478 - (5-2.3.1.2): Reject 1710- 482 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "Initial interior attacks shall begin when an initial rapid "The fire department shall have the capability to deploy an Intervention crew (IRIC) has been assembled." initial full alarm assignment within an eight minute a response SUBSTANTIATION: Suggesting the capability to set up the IRIC time established by the authority having jurisdiction to 90 percent with the first arriving company does not require that it be set up, of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." nor is it necessary to limit to the first responding company the SUBSTANTIATION: Response time should be left to authority responsibility to provide the members of the IRIC. This is one having jurisdiction and/or the local government. more obvious attempt to legislate staffing requirement that does COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. not make sense. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The use of an IRIC or RIC is staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a specified in NFPA 1500 which is referenced in this standard. The document addressing fire department deployment and submitter should review A-5.2.3.1.2. organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. ______(Log #524) 1710- 479 - (5-2.3.1.2): Reject (Log #165) SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection 1710- 483 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject District SUBMITTER: Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 District 8 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-346 "Personnel assigned to the initial arriving full alarm assignment RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the shall have the capabilities to implement an IRIT." capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an SUBSTANTIATION: The IRIT team may arrive on the second eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. or third arriving unit. SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The initial alarm assignment shall We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. have the capability to initiate an IRIC. Current text is clear. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that ______minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. (Log #847) 1710- 480 - (5-2.3.1.2): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Edmund E. Elliott, Jr., City of Chesapeake Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #199) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710- 484 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject "5.2.3. + .1* Personnel assigned to on the initial arriving company SUBMITTER: Patrick J. Kenny, Village of Hinsdale assignment shall have the capability to implement an initial rapid COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 intervention crew (IRIC)." RECOMMENDATION: Revise 8 minutes or less for full alarm SUBSTANTIATION: Even with four firefighters arriving on the assignment to 12 minutes. first company there will not be sufficient staffing for a IRIC. SUBSTANTIATION: Departments in our area relying on mutual Normally, two firefighters will be making an initial entry, one response cannot meet the 8 minute standard based on time of firefighter will be operating the engine, leaving only one day, geography, travel distance and multiple calls. firefighter available for IRIC. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: By definition, the two members of four minute and eight minute response time requirements and the IRIC only need to be assigned for rapid deployment; they do the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of not have to be dedicated to that responsibility. See A.5.2.3.1.2. the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- ______173 (Log #843). ______(Log #11) 1710- 481 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #207) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-346 1710- 485 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the SUBMITTER: Casey Jones, Salem Fire Department capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. minimum requirements for fire department response time are COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that and organization. minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment ______and organization. ______

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(Log #212) 1710- 486 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject (Log #284) SUBMITTER: Chad E. Minter, Coburg Fire District 1710- 490 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Stephen Lich, Camano Island, Wa RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. SUBSTANTIATION: Response times vary with terrain, We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. population density, weather, volume of calls, and many other COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. factors. Type of incident also affects what response is needed. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Few small fire departments have hazmat team capabilities for minimum requirements for fire department response time are eight minute response, for example. Safety of firefighters may be necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment compromised by having to rush to meet a nationally imposed and organization. standard which does not necessarily reflect needs of community. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment (Log #221) and organization. 1710- 487 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Mike R. Hamel, Fire & Rescue District #1 ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an (Log #301) eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. 1710- 491 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "The fire department shall should have the capability to deploy COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that ... within a recommended 8 minute response time ... in Chapter minimum requirements for fire department response time are 4." necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment SUBSTANTIATION: Rural and/or small career departments and organization. that cover large areas with small populations and limited funding could work on achieving this objective over long time periods ______with the proposed text. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first (Log #242) initiated, the committee considered the different documents it 1710- 488 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject had the authority to write and concluded that the development of SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 service. The committee has proceeded to develop the RECOMMENDATION: Move to Annex A 5.2.3.2.1. This is an requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting appropriate inclusion in the annex. document will strengthen the deployment of resources in SUBSTANTIATION: A standard that does not include all the communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. factors involved in an emergency response and is unobtainable by Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change the majority of the organizations that it is supposed to apply to, is this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire not defensible in court or before a city council. departments and the communities they protect without a standard COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. to provide clear direction for improvement of services. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department response time are ______necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. Moving this material to the Annex would diminish the strength of this standard. (Log #335) 1710- 492 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #532) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1029) (Log #280) Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 1710- 489 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject (Log #1059) SUBMITTER: Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD Paul L. Benson, Chino Valley Independent Fire District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #1206) RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an (Log #588) eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. Chuck Boggs, Jefferson County Fire Protection District #1 SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many (Log #964) factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. Doug Branch, Boring Fire District (Log #1112) We cannot compromise the life safety of firefighters. Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #446) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1254) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that James Brooker, Mohawk Valley rural Fire District (Log #438) minimum requirements for fire department response time are Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1 (Log #628) necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #580) and organization John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #390) Don Chumley, Whatcom County Fire Dist. 4 (Log #635) ______William H. Combs, Sutherlin, OR (Log #430) James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #620) Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #374) George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1192) Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety (Log #1184) Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #422) Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1246) Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #462)

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J. W. Foster, Yelm Fire District (Log #1082) (Log #525) Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District 1710- 493 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject #4 (Log #1270) SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #478) District Jeff Griffin, Oregon Fire Chiefs Association (Log #1127) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #454) RECOMMENDATION: Delete. Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1214) SUBSTANTIATION: Eight minute response time is not Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 (Log #999) possible. Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #406) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that (Log #1075) minimum requirements for fire department response time are Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1021) necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA and organization. (Log #382) Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1064) ______Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1135) Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #984) (Log #557) Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs 1710- 494 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject (Log #948) SUBMITTER: Roger Ferris, Washington Fire Commissioners Michael McKinley, City of Bremerton (Log #1007) Association Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #470) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1222) RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 capability to display an initial full alarm assignment with an eight- (Log #940) minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1151) SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1168) factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #604) We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. Also there Roger K. Purdie, Vista Fire Department (Log #539) is no imperical evidence that has been illustrated to validate this Terry Reed, City of Spokane (Log #992) draft. This proposal is clearly advocated by special interest Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District groups who have no experience or grasp of management issues. (Log #1238) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1119) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1160) minimum requirements for fire department response time are Keith Richter, Contra Costa County Fire Protection Dist. necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment (Log #501) and organization. Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1104) Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1200) ______Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, (Log #1045) Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #494) (Log #559) Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #956) 1710- 495 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1013) SUBMITTER: John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire and Ambulance Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District Service (Log #486) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #596) RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #612) capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1096) eight minute response time. Delete the text in its entirety. Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1262) SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is the cumulative total of Terrence N. Thomas, Walla Walla Fire Department (Log #643) many different factors, some of which are outside the operator’s Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #414) control. It would be irresponsible to compromise the safety of Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #971) fire fighters in the name of quicker response times. Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1176) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Tom Wells, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #1143) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District (Log minimum requirements for fire department response time are #1085) necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #546) and organization. Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #1230) ______Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #398) Keith Yamane, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1037) Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #934) (Log #641) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 496 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the SUBMITTER: Stan Baker, Kittitas County Fire District #2 capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 eight-minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many capability to display an initial full alarm assignment within an factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. This is not minimum requirements for fire department response time are realistic for a rural district that responds to an area of 250 square necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment miles. and organization. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that ______minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. ______

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(Log #672) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 497 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that SUBMITTER: William J. McCammon, Alemeda County Fire minimum requirements for fire department services, including Department staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document addressing fire department deployment and RECOMMENDATION: The fire department’s fire suppression organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent resources shall be deployed to provide for arrival of an engine requirements. company within a 4 6 minute response time and/or the initial full alarm assignment within an 8 10 minute response time to 90 ______percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4. Topography should be considered when establishing this goal and longer response times accepted for hard to serve areas. (Log #809) SUBSTANTIATION: There are areas based on topography that 1710- 501 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject attempting to meet this standard would place undue hardships on SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. communities. Additionally the 4 minute time for a first arriving COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 company is not practical in most urban areas. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "The fire department shall should have the capability to deploy COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that an initial full alarm assignment within an 8-minute response time four minute and eight minute response time requirements and to 90 percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have a 4 and 8- the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see minute response times for deployment of fire suppression Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- resources, response times provided are the service level decisions 173 (Log #843). of the governing body. The response time levels identified in the draft document ______should be provided as recommended levels. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first (Log #745) initiated, the committee considered the different documents it 1710- 498 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject had the authority to write and concluded that the development of SUBMITTER: William D. Lanford, Buckeye Valley Rural a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire Volunteer Fire Dist. service. The committee has proceeded to develop the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting RECOMMENDATION: Delete text as follows: document will strengthen the deployment of resources in The fire department shall have the capability to display an initial communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. full alarm assignment within an (8) eight minute response time. Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change SUBSTANTIATION: There are numerous factors in this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire determining response times. Factors that we have no control of. departments and the communities they protect without a standard Safety of our fire fighters cannot be compromised! to provide clear direction for improvement of services. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that ______minimum requirements for fire department response time are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and organization. (Log #819) 1710- 502 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Allison Duke, III, Bremerton Fire Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #771) RECOMMENDATION: The fire department shall have the 1710- 499 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject capability to deploy an initial full alarm assignment within an SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue eight minute response time. Delete text in its entirety. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Response time is a combination of many RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: factors. Some of those factors are outside the operator’s control. . . . to deploy an initial full alarm assignment within an 8 minute We cannot compromise the life safety of fire fighters. 10 minute response time . . . COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The scope of this standard refers to a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Response time criteria is necessary minimum standard. As such, arrival times of 6 and 10 minutes are for addressing efficiency, effectiveness and safety in a document much more appropriate as minimums. They also match addressing career fire department deployment. previously adopted standards by the Department of Defense for military fire departments of 6 and 10 minutes respectively. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that four minute and eight minute response time requirements and (Log #328) the 90% performance requirement are a critical component of 1710- 503 - (5-2.3.2.1, 5-2.3.2.2, 5-2.3.2.3, A-5-2.3.2.3): Reject the deployment standard for career fire departments. Also see SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY Committee Actions on Comments 1710-168 (Log #841) and 1710- COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 173 (Log #843). RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of 5-2.3.2.1 and 5-2.3.2.2 to read as follows: ______5-2.3.2.1 The fire department shall have the ability to deploy an initial full alarm assignment within the response time and performance levels established in 4-1.3.1.1 and 4-1.3.1.2. (Log #798) 5-2.3.2.2 The initial full alarm assignment shall provide 1710- 500 - (5-2.3.2.1): Reject sufficient resources to initiate an effective initial interior attack, SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department based on the nature of the properties protected. The authority COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 having jurisdiction shall determine the resources that are RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: required for each community or each area within a community. "The fire department shall have the capability to display an Add 5-2.3.2.3* and A-5-2.3.2.3 to read as follows: initial full alarm assignment within an eight minute response 5-2.3.2.2* The minimum performance requirements for an time.) a predetermined time to meet locally established levels of initial interior offensive fire attack shall include the following: service determined by the local jurisdiction having authority.) a) Establishment of incident command outside of the hazard SUBSTANTIATION: Response times are a matter of local area for overall coordination and direction of the full alarm control. Arbitrary response times create safety hazards and assignment. unnecessary liability for local jurisdictions. Levels of service are b) Establishment of an uninterrupted water supply, capable of solely local decisions. Demographics and geographical area must supporting an interior fire attack for a duration of 30 minutes. be considered.

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One or more pump operators shall be assigned to ensure the 1710- 505 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject reliability of the water supply. SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department c) Establishment of at least two interior attack hand lines, each Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #533) capable of flowing a minimum of 100 gpm. A minimum of two Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1030) personnel shall be assigned to operate each hand line. Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 d) Assignment of at least one member to support the (Log #1058) operation of each hand line. The functions of these individuals Paul L. Benson, Chino Valley Independent Fire District shall include assisting in hydrant hook-up, stretching hose, (Log #1207) forcible entry and other essential support function. Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 e) Assignment of a minimum of one victim search and rescue (Log #589) team, consisting of at least two personnel. Chuck Boggs, Jefferson County Fire Protection District #1 f) Assignment of a minimum of one ventilation team, (Log #965) consisting of at least two personnel. Doug Branch, Boring Fire District (Log #1113) g) Assignment of sufficient personnel to raise ground ladders Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #447) or aerial devices(s). James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1255) h) Assignment of at least two properly trained and equipped James Brooker, Mohawk Valley rural Fire District (Log #439) personnel to establish an IRIC. Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1 (Log #629) A-5-2.3.2.3 The basic resource recommendations described in John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #581) 5-2.3.2.3 are applicable to a typical 2-story, 2000 square ft, single- John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #391) family dwelling, as found in many North American communities. Don Chumley, Whatcom County Fire Dist. 4 (Log #636) Additional resources are required for larger and higher hazard William H. Combs, Sutherlin, OR (Log #431) structures. James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #621) SUBSTANTIATION: The premise of basing a mandatory David D. Curtis, Central Yavapai Fire District (Log #1053) standard on theoretical requirements to fight a fire in a Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #375) hypothetical "typical" dwelling places this document in the realm George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1193) of fantasy. The proposed requirements are based entirely on the Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety experience and opinions of the committee members, without (Log #1185) properly validated supporting data or comparative performance Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #423) analysis. There is no documented correlation between the Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1247) proposed requirements and desirable outcomes and scientific Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #463) justification of the resource requirements. While the J. W. Foster, Yelm Fire District (Log #1083) requirements appear to be "more or less reasonable" to most John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire And Ambulance Service practitioners, many fire departments have excellent records (Log #553) fighting fires in this type of structure with fewer resources than the Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection committee has recommended. District #4 (Log #1271) It is also unrealistic to build a mandatory standard, that is Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #479) intended to apply to all career fire departments, around Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #455) presumed requirements to fight a hypothetical fire in a single size Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1215) and type of structure. While the described "typical" 2000 square Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 ft, 2-story single-family dwelling may be found in many (Log #1000) communities, most fire departments must be prepared to protect Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #407) a variety of structures and a wide range of hazards. A standard Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 that is based on protecting single family dwellings is meaningless (Log #1076) or irrelevant in relation the the actual fire protection Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1022) requirements of many communities. Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #383) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1065) quantified criteria contained in the document is minimal for safe, Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1136) efficient and effective deployment based on the tasks required to Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 operate at a structural incident as defined in this standard. The (Log #985) AHJ has the option to increase staffing levels as allowed in Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs 5.2.2.1.2. Fire departments will use the task analysis as part of (Log #949) training as required in NFPA 1001. Michael McKinley, City of Bremerton (Log #1008) Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #471) ______Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1223) Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #302) (Log #941) 1710- 504 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1152) SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD (Log #279) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1169) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #605) "If the incident indicates the need, the initial full alarm Roger K. Purdie, Vista Fire Department (Log #540) assignment should provide for the following:" (rest as printed) Terry Reed, City of Spokane (Log #993) SUBSTANTIATION: Each incident dictates the type of response Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District needed. Not every fire will require a search for occupants, the (Log #1239) need to ventilate, or the need for an aerial device. Staffing should Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1120) be allocated to necessary functions of the incident. Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1161) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Keith Richter, Contra Costa County Fire Protection Dist. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first (Log #502) initiated, the committee considered the different documents it Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1105) had the authority to write and concluded that the development of Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1201) a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, service. The committee has proceeded to develop the (Log #1046) requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #495) document will strengthen the deployment of resources in Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #957) communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1014) Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire (Log #487) departments and the communities they protect without a standard Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #597) to provide clear direction for improvement of services. Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #613) Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #10) ______(Log #336)

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John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1097) for a document addressing fire department deployment and Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection District 8 organization. Permissive language not allowed in minimum (Log #166) standards. Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1263) Terrence N. Thomas, Walla Walla Fire Department (Log #978) ______Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #415) Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #972) Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1177) (Log #747) Tom Wells, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #1144) 1710- 509 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject Carol Wennstrom, Lake Creek Fire (Log #1071) SUBMITTER: William D. Lanford, Buckeye Valley Rural Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District (Log Volunteer Fire Dist. #1092) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #547) RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire text. Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 The first full alarm assignment . . . equipped and trained (Log #1231) personnel. Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #399) SUBSTANTIATION: This allows no input from local Keith Yamane, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1038) jurisdictions and addressing the unique needs of the area. Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #935) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: The first full alarm assignment ... minimum requirements for fire department services, including equipped and trained personnel. Delete text in its entirety. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a SUBSTANTIATION: This standard does not allow the local document addressing fire department deployment and jurisdiction to establish reasonable standards for its unique organization. needs. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department staffing is necessary (Log #875) for a document addressing fire department deployment and 1710- 510 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject organization. SUBMITTER: Mario D. Rueda, Los Angeles Fire Department, CA ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: (Log #517) "If an aerial device is used in operations, one person shall 1710- 506 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject function as an aerial operator who shall maintain primary control SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection of the aerial device at all times" District SUBSTANTIATION: If an aerial device is used for rescue or COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 other operations that require an operator; an operator should be RECOMMENDATION: Delete. required, for ventilation or other operations where the aerial SUBSTANTIATION: Where do we get the personnel to do all should not be moved, an operator at the controls is a waste of these tasks or the money to hire people? manpower. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee's has concluded minimum requirements for fire department response time are that this comment is contrary to the fundamental issue of safe necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment operations when personnel are operating at an emergency. and organization. ______(Log #877) (Log #518) 1710- 511 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject 1710- 507 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 District RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 "(The first full alarm assignment...equipped and trained RECOMMENDATION: Delete Section. personnel.) SUBSTANTIATION: Where do we get the personnel to do this SUBSTANTIATION: Again, local control over established levels if we have several lines out? When this personnel is added to the of service must be maintained. Arbitrary standards like this create other required personnel we would need 10-15 personnel at the a safety hazard for our personnel. scene. With a small department like ours we often don’t get this COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. many people responding. If this is wanted, then the funds need COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that to be provided by the Federal Government. minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that document addressing fire department deployment and minimum requirements for fire department response time are organization. necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment ______and organization. (Log #137) ______1710- 512 - (5-2.3.2.2(a)): Reject SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #519) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710- 508 - (5-2.3.2.2): Reject "Establishment of incident command outside of the hazard area SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection for the overall coordination and direction of the initial full alarm District assignment. A minimum of one individual shall be dedicated to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 this task." RECOMMENDATION: May be part of the attack team. SUBSTANTIATION: Let AHJ decide. SUBSTANTIATION: Don’t have enough personnel to do all COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. these tasks you want done as with other parts of this. Find us the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that Federal funding to hire more paid staff as we run out of minimum numbers of personnel are needed for these functions volunteers. for a safe, effective, and efficient operation. The AHJ may COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. establish more stringent requirements. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department staffing is necessary ______

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(Log #520) SUBSTANTIATION: Proposed change more accurately reflects 1710- 513 - (5-2.3.2.2(a)): Reject the application rate of 1110 L/min (300 gpm) stated in SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection section/paragraph 5.2.3.2.2(c). District COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded the RECOMMENDATION: Delete. minimum water supply of 400 gpm is needed for a safe, effective, SUBSTANTIATION: Don’t always have enough personnel to and efficient operation. have this position, but use an engine officer or unit engineer for the I.C. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Nothing in current text prohibits an engine officer or unit engineer from functioning as the IC if (Log #139) they are trained and qualifiied for that position. In many cases 1710- 518 - (5-2.3.2.2(c)): Reject the initial IC position is filled by the engine officer or unit SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department engineer during initial attack phase of operations. As the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 incident escalates, the IC position needs to be a dedicated RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: position regardless of who fills it. "Establishment of an effective water flow application rate. of 1110 l/min. (300 g/min.) from two handlines, each of which ______shall have a minimum of 370 l/min (100 g/min). Attack and backup lines shall be operated by a minimum of two personnel (Log #895) each to effectively and safely maintain the line." 1710- 514 - (5-2.3.2.2(a)): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: Let AHJ decide. SUBMITTER: Kirk Owen, Plano Fire Department COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: specified minimum water flow application is needed for a safe, "...of the initial full alarm assignment. A minimum of one effective, and efficient operation. The AHJ may establish more individual supervisory chief officer and one staff aide shall be stringent requirements. dedicated to this task." SUBSTANTIATION: If it is the desire of the committee for ______supervisory chief officer(s) and staff aides(s) to be used in the management of emergency incidents, their involvement could be more clearly defined. (Log #566) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 519 - (5-2.3.2.2(c)): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Current text is clear for initial SUBMITTER: Keith MacIsaac, Wheeling Fire Department alarm assignments where the initial incident commander may not COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 be a supervisory officer. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "(c)...each of which shall have minimum of 370 L/min (100 gpm) (555 L/min (150 gpm))." SUBSTANTIATION: Proposed change more accurately reflects ______the application rate of 1110 L/min (300 gpm) stated at the beginning of this section/paragraph. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #138) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the 1710- 515 - (5-2.3.2.2(b)): Reject specified minimum water flow application is needed for a safe, SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department effective, and efficient operation. The AHJ may establish more COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 stringent requirements. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "Establishment of an uninterrupted water supply. of a minimum ______1489 l/m (400 g/m) for 30 minutes. Supply lines shall be maintained by an operator who shall ensure uninterrupted water flow application." (Log #140) SUBSTANTIATION: Let AHJ decide the criteria for water flow. 1710- 520 - (5-2.3.2.2(d)): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 specified minimum water flow application is needed for a safe, RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. effective, and efficient operation. The AHJ may establish more SUBSTANTIATION: Let AHJ decide on need for this support. stringent requirements. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the ______minimum number of personnel needed for this function is necessary for a safe, effective and efficient operation. AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. (Log #521) 1710- 516 - (5-2.3.2.2(b)): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #141) RECOMMENDATION: Delete. 1710- 521 - (5-2.3.2.2(e)): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: Impossible to meet with water tender units SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department in most areas. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that "A minimum of one victim search and rescue team shall be part minimum water flow application is needed for safe and effective of the initial full alarm assignment. Each search and rescue team operations. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. shall consist of a minimum of two personnel. Establishment of a victim search and rescue team as necessary." ______SUBSTANTIATION: Let the AHJ decide. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #565) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the 1710- 517 - (5-2.3.2.2(b)): Reject minimum number of personnel needed for this function is SUBMITTER: Keith MacIsaac, Wheeling Fire Department necessary for a safe, effective and efficient operation. AHJ may COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 establish more stringent requirements. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "(b)...a minimum 1480 L/min (400 gpm) (1110 L/min (300 ______gpm)..."

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(Log #142) minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first 1710- 522 - (5-2.3.2.2(f)): Reject alarm ‘room and contents’ fire. SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: the specified functions must be deployed within the specified "A minimum of one ventilation team shall be part of the initial time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. full alarm assignment. Each ventilation team shall consist of a minimum of two personnel. Establishment of a ventilation team ______as necessary." SUBSTANTIATION: None. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #97) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the 1710- 526 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject minimum number of personnel needed for this function is SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection necessary for a safe, effective and efficient operation. AHJ may District 8 establish more stringent requirements. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Add (i) to read as follows: ______"(i) With the exception of the Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), the above functions may be performed sequentially or concurrently as the circumstances may require, with teams tasked (Log #79) with multiple responsibilities." 1710- 523 - (5-2.3.2.2(g)): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require a first SUBMITTER: L. Charles Smeby, Jr., FL State Fire College alarm assignment of at least fourteen (14) staff. That is not the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first RECOMMENDATION: Delete section. alarm ‘room and contents’ fire. SUBSTANTIATION: Since the design scenario is a "2000 square COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. foot, 2-story, single family occupancy, it would be extremely rare COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that that an aerial ladder would ever be needed for a 20 foot high the specified functions must be deployed within the specified structure. In addition, with this requirement, the staffing on time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. ladder companies would be in conflict with 5.2.2.2.1 that states "...minimum of four on-duty personnel." This extra person would ______be needed in those departments that need to comply with 5.2.2.2.2 only. Many departments that respond to "tactical hazards, high hazard (Log #105) occupancies, high incident frequencies, geographical restrictions, 1710- 527 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject or other pertinent factors," typically send three engines and two SUBMITTER: Arthur Getchman, Thurston County Fire ladders on the first alarm. This provides the staffing needed to Protection District 8 keep one or two personnel with the aerial ladder if needed. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Add (i) to read as follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the "(i) With the exception of the Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), minimum number of personnel needed for this function is the above functions may be performed sequentially or necessary for a safe, effective, and efficient operation. The standard does not specify the apparatus type deployed to the concurrently as the circumstances may require, with teams tasked initial alarm assignment. The AHJ may establish more stringent with multiple responsibilities." requirements. SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require a first alarm assignment of at least fourteen (14) staff. That is not the ______minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first alarm ‘room and contents’ fire. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #34) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 524 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject the specified functions must be deployed within the specified SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. Safety COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: (i) with the exception of the IRIC, the above functions may be performed sequentially or concurrently as the circumstances may (Log #114) require; with teams tasked with multiple responsibilities. 1710- 528 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: See A.4.1.1. The existing language would SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire seem to require that an initial alarm must include at least 14 Protection District 8 responders. In many communities they often do not have 14 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 responders available, yet they safely respond to a wide range of RECOMMENDATION: Add (i) to read as follows: fires and other emergencies. Fourteen is not the minimum. "(i) With the exception of the Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. the above functions may be performed sequentially or COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that concurrently as the circumstances may require, with teams tasked the specified functions must be deployed within the specified with multiple responsibilities." time period for a safe, efficient, and effective operation. SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require a first alarm assignment of at least fourteen (14) staff. That is not the ______minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first alarm ‘room and contents’ fire. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #90) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 525 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject the specified functions must be deployed within the specified SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Add (i) to read as follows: "(i) With the exception of the Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), the above functions may be performed sequentially or concurrently as the circumstances may require, with teams tasked with multiple responsibilities."

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(Log #225) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that 1710- 529 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject the specified functions must be deployed within the specified SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. District # 7 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: (i) With the exception of the Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), the above functions may be performed sequentially or (Log #303) concurrently as the circumstances may require, with teams tasked 1710- 533 - (5-2.3.3.1): Reject with multiple responsibilities. SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require a first RECOMMENDATION alarm assignment of at least fourteen (14) staff. That is not the : Revise text to read as follows: minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first "The fire department shall should have the capability for alarm ‘room and contents’ fire. additional alarm...(as printed). Mutual aid companies may be COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. used as additional alarm companies." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that SUBSTANTIATION: Rural or small departments probably use the specified functions must be deployed within the specified all personnel on the initial alarm. Any additional alarms require time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. assistance from mutual aid. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first initiated, the committee considered the different documents it had the authority to write and concluded that the development of (Log #254) a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire 1710- 530 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject service. The committee has proceeded to develop the SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting Protection District # 7 document will strengthen the deployment of resources in COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change " (i) With the exception of Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), the this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire above functions may be performed sequentially or concurrently as departments and the communities they protect without a standard the circumstances may require, with teams tasked with multiple to provide clear direction for improvement of services. responsibilties." ______SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require a first alarm assignment of at least fourteen (14) staff. That is not the minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first (Log #770) alarm ‘room and contents’ fire. 1710- 534 - (5-2.3.3.2): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the specified functions must be deployed within the specified RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. . . . that consists of four two fully equipped and trained fire fighters. ______SUBSTANTIATION: There is no justification for 4 RIC members, unless the incident is very large, at which time the (Log #263) incident commander may expand the number, or deploy more 1710- 531 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject than 1 RIC. This is a minimum standard, and the minimum RIC SUBMITTER: should be two. Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. District #7 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION a RIC must be comprised of at least four members for safe : Add text to read as follows: operations during a multiple alarm fire or when necessary for the (i) With the exception of the Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), safety of personnel. The IC may request more than one RIC. the above functions may be performed sequentially or concurrently as the circumstances may require, with teams tasked ______with multiple responsibilities. SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require a first alarm assignment of at least fourteen (14) staff. That is not the (Log #810) minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first 1710- 535 - (5-2.3.3.2): Reject alarm ‘room and contents’’ fire. SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: the specified functions must be deployed within the specified "When an incident escalates beyond the initial full alarm time period for a safe, efficient and effective operation. assignment, or when there is significant risk to fire fighters due to the magnitude of the incident, the Incident Commander shall ______should upgrade the IRIT to a full Rapid Intervention Team (RIT) that consists of four 2 or more dedicated, fully equipped and trained fire fighters." (Log #270) SUBSTANTIATION: While the assignment of a 4 person RIT 1710- 532 - (5-2.3.2.2(i) (New): Reject team may be desirable, the decision to establish the team with SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire more than 2 personnel should be at the discretion of the IC Protection District #7 based on the conditions of the incident. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Add text to read as follows: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that " (i) With the exception of the Initial Rapid Entry Crew (IRIC), a RIC must be comprised of at least four members for safe the above functions may be performed sequentially or operations during a multiple alarm fire or when necessary for the concurrently as the circumstances may require, with teams tasked safety of personnel. The IC may request more than one RIC. with multiple responsibilities." Additionally, the committee concluded at the beginning of this SUBSTANTIATION: The current language would require a first project that it would be responsible for writing a minimum alarm assignment of at least fourteen (14) staff. That is not the standard and rejected developing a recommended practice or minimum needed to successfully attack and extinguish a first guide. Use of the word "should" is not appropriate in a minimum alarm ‘room and contents’ fire. standard. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______

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(Log #738) Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1121) 1710- 536 - (5-3): Reject Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1162) SUBMITTER: Scott W. Kenley, City of Lodi Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1106) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1202) RECOMMENDATION: Delete entire section. Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, SUBSTANTIATION: Not a function of NFPA to set EMS (Log #1047) standards. Some fire departments choose not to deliver EMS. Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #496) Some states and or counties prohibit patient transport. Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #958) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1015) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Emergency medical response is a Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District necessary component of fire department deployment. The (Log #488) committee was given the charge to address EMS in this standard Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #598) by the Standards Council. Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #614) John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1098) ______Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection District 8 (Log #167) Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1264) (Log #337) Terrence N. Thomas, Walla Walla Fire Department (Log #979) 1710- 537 - (5-3.2.2): Reject Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #416) SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #973) Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #534) Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1178) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1031) Tom Wells, /Rep. Sutherlin Fire Department (Log #1145) Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District (Log #1057) (Log #1088) Paul L. Benson, Chino Valley Independent Fire District Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #548) (Log #1208) Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 (Log #1232) (Log #590) Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #400) Chuck Boggs, Jefferson County Fire Protection District #1 Keith Yamane, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1039) (Log #966) Ken York, Philomath Fire Department (Log #936) Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #448) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1256) RECOMMENDATION: The minimal level of training for all fire James Brooker, Mohawk Valley rural Fire District (Log #440) fighters who respond to emergency incidents shall be to that level Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1 (Log #630) of First Responder that provides automatic external defibrillator John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #582) (AED) capability. The AHJ shall determine if further training is John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #392) required. Delete text in its entirety. Don Chumley, Whatcom County Fire Dist. 4 (Log #637) SUBSTANTIATION: This standard restricts local jurisdictions William H. Combs, Sutherlin, OR (Log #432) from establishing standards that are more appropriately made at James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #622) the local level. David D. Curtis, Central Yavapai Fire District (Log #1052) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #376) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee determined that George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1194) members responding to emergency incidents must be trained to Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety (Log at least First Responder-AED level. #1186) Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #424) ______Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1248) Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #464) John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire And Ambulance Service (Log #349) (Log #554) 1710- 538 - (5-3.2.2): Reject Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District SUBMITTER: James A. Ballard, Alhambra Fire Dept. #4 (Log #1272) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #480) RECOMMENDATION: Delete section. Jeff Griffin, Oregon Fire Chiefs Association (Log #1129) SUBSTANTIATION: There is no valid reason to require that all Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #456) members be trained to this level. We have full defibrillator’s and Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1216) at least one paramedic in every district in town. The EMT fire Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 personnel do not require training on devises that will not be (Log #1001) carried or used by our department. Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #408) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Casey Jones, Salem Fire Department (Log #205) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Emergency medical response is a Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 necessary component of fire department deployment. The (Log #1077) committee was given the charge to address EMS in this standard Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1023) by the Standards Councils. Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA (Log #384) ______Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1066) Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1137) Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #516) (Log #986) 1710- 539 - (5-3.2.2): Reject Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs SUBMITTER: Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection (Log #950) District Chad E. Minter, Coburg Fire District (Log #214) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #472) RECOMMENDATION: Delete. Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1224) SUBSTANTIATION: Not all fire departments can afford the Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 AED equipment or fund training. Provide free AED’s to (Log #942) departments. Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1153) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD (Log #278) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee determined that Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1170) members responding to emergency incidents must be trained to Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #606) at least First Responder-AED level. Roger K. Purdie, Vista Fire Department (Log #541) Terry Reed, City of Spokane (Log #994) ______Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District (Log #1240)

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(Log #878) such cases, additional EMT-B’s or EMT-P’s can be requested by 1710- 540 - (5-3.2.2): Reject the lead EMT and assist with patient care and transport. SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department According to the standard, my agency will need to provide the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 same level of EMS response and deployment to the senior citizen RECOMMENDATION: Delete text as follows: housing and regional shopping mall as I do to the agricultural "(The minimal level of training for all firefighters who respond areas. The standard will cause a redeployment of personnel, to emergency incidents shall be to that level of First Responder apparatus and equipment that will not save lives, but place that provides automatic external defibrillator (AEB) capability. resources in areas of little or no incident frequency. The AHJ shall determine if further training is required.) Incorporating a risk/frequency model, such as identified by the SUBSTANTIATION: If a local jurisdiction regularly responds Commission on Fire Accreditation International will allow the with 29 paramedics and 5 additional responders as support that agency to provide the appropriate response and deployment level are not First Responders, they are noncompliant. A neighboring consistent with the nature and frequency of the emergency jurisdiction could respond with 11 First Responders and be medical incidents. compliant. This is ridiculous and an issue of local control. This COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle in Part. standard would actually reduce response numbers and decrease Revise 5.3.3.3.2.1 to read as follows: safety in many areas of the country. Units that provide BLS transport shall be staffed and trained at a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. level prescribed by the state or provincial agency responsible for COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee determined that providing emergency medical services licensing. members responding to emergency incidents must be trained to COMMITTEE STATEMENT: 1.) The Committee agrees with the at least First Responder-AED level. intent of the submitter in changing 5.3.3.3.2.1 and has editorially changed the language so that it is consistent with the revised text ______in 5.3.3.3.2.2. See Committee Action on Comment 1710-555 (Log #845). 2.) See Committee Action on Comment 1710-555 (Log #845) for (Log #900) changes to 5.3.3.3.2.2. 1710- 541 - (5.3.3): Accept in Principle in Part The committee is not changing 5.3.3.4.2 or 5.3.3.4.3. because it SUBMITTER: James D. Spiegel, Countryside Fire Protection feels minimum response times are necessary for a safe, efficient, District and effective EMS deployment. This is supported by medical COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 study and is consistent with the Committee's definition of RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: response time. The AHJ may establish more stringent 5.3.3.3.2.1 Units that provide BLS transport shall be staffed with requirements. a minimum of (two members) (one member) providing patient See Committee Action on Comment 1710-595 (Log #846) for care that (are) (is) trained to emergency medical technician- changes to 5.3.3.4.4. basic level (and another member acting as the ambulance driver.) ______5.3.3.3.2.2 Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a minimum of (two members providing care that are trained to (Log #243) emergency medical technician paramedic level) (one member 1710- 542 - (5-3.3.1.1): Reject providing patient care that is trained to emergency medical SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 technician-basic level and acting as the ambulance driver and one COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 member providing care that is trained to emergency medical RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: technician-paramedic level providing patient care.) "Initial response with a fire department apparatus to provide 5.3.3.4.2 The fire department’s EMS for providing first medical treatment at the location of the emergency [first responder with AED (shall be deployed to provide for the arrival responder with (AED) capability or higher]." of a first responder with AED company within a 4 minute SUBSTANTIATION: Initial Responders who respond via response time to 90 percent of the incidents as established in personally owned vehicles are not always equipped with an AED. Chapter 4.) (shall be adequate and appropriate for the level of Often these people are the closest available resource and are an incident type and frequency identified by the fire agency in integral part of service delivery. Duty personnel generally respond conjunction with the local emergency medical authority.) in some kind of fire district apparatus, in those cases AED’s 5.3.3.4.3 When provided, the fire department’s EMS for should be required on all licensed BLS and ALS units. Adding providing ALS (shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of an the clarifier makes the intent crystal clear. ALS company within 8 minute response time to 90 percent of the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. incidents as established in Chapter 4.) (shall be adequate and COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Current text is clear and is appropriate for the level of incident type and frequency identified applicable to career deployment. by the fire agency in conjunction with the local emergency ______medical authority.) 5.3.3.4.4 ALS emergency response deployments (shall include a minimum of two members trained at the emergency medical (Log #912) technician paramedic level and two members trained at the 1710- 543 - (5-3.3.3): Reject emergency medical technician basic level arriving on scene within SUBMITTER: Wayne Waggoner, Tennessee Fire Code the established response time.) (shall be adequate and Development Committee appropriate for the incident type and frequency identified by the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-422 fire agency in conjunction with the local emergency medical RECOMMENDATION: Add the following to the EMS section: authority.) 3.3.4.3 Staffing. SUBSTANTIATION: The standard has identified minimum 3.3.4.3.1* On-duty emergency medical services units shall be staffing of two EMT-B members for BLS incidents and 4 members staffed with the minimum numbers of personnel necessary for 2 EMT-B and 2 EMT-Paramedics for ALS incidents. These safe and effective emergency medical care relative to the level of staffing levels are in excess of the State of Illinois Department of emergency medical services provided by the fire department. Public Health Standard for ambulance staffing. The Illinois 3.3.4.3.2 Operating Units. Emergency medical services staffing Department of Public Health has identified an ambulance staffing requirements are based on the minimum levels needed to provide of 1 EMT-B and a driver for BLS calls and 1 EMT-P with an EMT- effective patient care and member safety. Units that provide B for ALS calls. According to the State of Illinois Department of emergency medical care shall be staffed at a minimum with Public Health’s opinion, and EMS System or other body cannot personnel that are trained to the first responder/AED level. raise this level of staffing, unless Illinois law is changed. 3.3.4.3.2.1 Basic Life Support. Units that provide basic life The level of response identified by the standard for emergency support transport shall be staffed with a minimum of two (2) medical incidents is based upon BLS or ALS incidents. While members providing patient care that are trained to emergency our database may be small, it is consistent with over fifteen years medical technician basic level. Add an additional sentence to of emergency medical response providing advanced life support 3.3.4.3.3 to read as follows: and transport with average response times of less than four 3.3.4.3.2.2 Advanced Life Support. Units that provide advanced minutes. The true ALS medical emergency, where in field life support transport shall be staffed with a minimum of two (2) interventions change patient outcome are exceedingly rare. In members providing patient care that are trained to emergency

368 NFPA 1710 — May 2001 ROC — Copyright 2001, NFPA medical technician paramedic basic level. Add an additional improvement with staffing of two paramedics versus one EMT and sentence to 3.3.4.3.3 to read as follows: 1 paramedic. "ALS emergency response deployments shall include a minimum COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. of two (2) members trained at the EMT-P level and two (2) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on members trained at the EMT-B level arriving on scene within the Comment 1710-555 (Log #845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. established response time." Add new appendix item: ______A.3.3.4.3.3 The American Heart Association recommends the minimum required personnel for an emergency cardiac care response. In those systems that have attained survival rates higher (Log #144) than 20% for patients with ventricular fibrillation, response teams 1710- 547 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject included as a minimum, two ALS providers and two BLS SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department providers. See Guidelines for Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 and Emergency Cardiac Care, JAMA, October 28, 1992, Vol. 268, RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: No. 16. "Units that provide ALS transports shall be staffed with a SUBSTANTIATION: The TFCDC did not have an opportunity minimum of two members providing patient care. that are One to comment on the EMS staffing proposal since it was not in the trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic level and original draft. We feel that the addendum that we proposed is one trained to the Emergency medical technician basic-level or appropriate for EMS calls. Many departments today are having a otherwise allowed by local laws and protocols." very difficult time putting two EMT-P on apparatus to respond. SUBSTANTIATION: Under certain criteria, a first responder COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. level trained person may act as an ambulance driver in the state of COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on Arizona. To have a paramedic always drive an ambulance would Comments 1710-555 (Log #845) and 1710-595 (Log #846). be a waste of resources, especially in rural areas. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on Comment 1710-555 (Log #845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. (Log #143) ______1710- 544 - (5-3.3.3.2.1): Reject SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #245) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710- 548 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject "Units that provide BLS transport shall be staffed with a SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 minimum of two members providing patient care that are trained COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 to emergency medical technician - basic level or otherwise RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: allowed by local laws and protocols." "Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a SUBSTANTIATION: Under certain criteria, a first responder minimum of two members providing patient care that are trained level trained person may act as an ambulance driver in the state of to emergency medical technician Paramedic Level. The attendant Arizona. must be EMT - Intermediate or EMT - Paramedic and the driver COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. shall be at least an EMT - D." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This is a minimum requirement. SUBSTANTIATION: There is no empirical evidence that two AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. EMT-Paramedics guarantee a higher level of patient care or better patient outcomes. To require two EMT-Paramedics is elevating ______the standard above the justified minimum and conflicts with the established statutory requirement. Adoption of this standard (Log #244) would reduce the number of ALS units on the street at any given 1710- 545 - (5-3.3.3.2.1): Reject time by almost half. This standard would be the death of SPRINT SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 (Single Paramedic Rapid Intervention No Transport) programs COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 across the country. Reducing or eliminating service to geographic RECOMMENDATION areas should not be the goal of this standard. Standards should : Revise text to read as follows: be written to improve the delivery of service, not create additional "Units that provide BLS transport shall be staffed with a liabilities that economically and negatively impact service delivery. minimum of two members providing patient care that are trained COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. to emergency medical technician - Basic Level. The attendant COMMITTEE STATEMENT: must be EMT or higher and the driver shall be at least a first See Committee Action on responder with AED - Basic Level." Comment 1710-555 (Log #845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. SUBSTANTIATION: Initial Responders who respond via personally owned vehicles may be assigned transport duties. ______Often these people are the closest available resource and are an integral part of service delivery. There is no empirical evidence (Log #640) that two EMTs guarantee a higher level of patient care. To require 1710- 549 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject two EMTs is elevating the standard above the justified minimum SUBMITTER: Reggie Romines, Pierce County Fire District #21 and conflicts with the established statutory requirement. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This is a minimum requirement. : Units that provide ALS Advanced The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. Cardiac Life Support (ACLS) transport shall be staffed with a minimum of two one member providing patient care that are ______trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic. SUBSTANTIATION: Multiple emergency medical technicians - paramedic level, staffed on single units will reduce the number of (Log #71) ALS trained personnel able to provide patient care on subsequent 1710- 546 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject ALS calls. SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Comment 1710-555 (Log #845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. "Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a minimum of two members providing patient care that are with at ______least one member trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic level." SUBSTANTIATION: There is no quantifiable reason to staff ALS units with more than one paramedic. The cost benefit improvement is just not there. Outcomes show little or no

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(Log #816) (Log #652) 1710- 554 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject 1710- 550 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Frank Diluzie, City of Santa Fe SUBMITTER: Brad Reading, Moluntlake Terrace Fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Department RECOMMENDATION: Delete Section 5.3.3.3.2.2. Section COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 5.3.3.3.1 provider for adequate staffing. RECOMMENDATION: Units that provide ALS transport shall be SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing patterns should be based on the staffed with a minimum of two members providing patient care recommendation of the Fire Chief/Medical Director to the that are trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic authority having jurisdiction. level when medically nessasery. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: ALS transports range from critical patients COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on to precautionary type of transports. Common practice for many Comment 1710-555 (Log #845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. departments allow for splitting of crews with the BLS unit to keep a paramedic available for another response when the patient’s ______condition allow. Another practice is to send two units with one paramedic on each and if medically nessasery both paramedics could be placed on the transport ambulance. (Log #845) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 555 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Accept COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on SUBMITTER: Brian D. Johnson, International Association of Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. Fire Chiefs COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a minimum of two members providing patient care that are trained (Log #680) to emergency medical technician paramedic level. and trained at 1710- 551 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject the level prescribed by the state agency responsible for providing SUBMITTER: John Koenig, Manchester Fire, Rescue, EMS emergency medical services licensing. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: The AHJ and the fire department should RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: be held to the requirements as set by state emergency medical . . . Minimum of two members providing patient care. that are services licensing authorities as it relates to the number, and trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic level. medical qualifications, of personnel providing patient care. These members are to have a minimum of one emergency COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. medical technician and one emergency medical technician - Editorially change the submitters revision to add the words "or paramedic level. provincial" after the word "state". SUBSTANTIATION: Allows for paramedic teams to expand without an increase of manpower. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. (Log #849) 1710- 556 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Edmund E. Elliott, Jr., City of Chesapeake Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #769) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710- 552 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject "5.3.3.3.2.2 Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue with a minimum of two one members providing patient care that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 are trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic level. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: and one member trained to the EMT - intermediate level. . . . staffed with a minimum of two one members providing SUBSTANTIATION: The proposed standard would require patient care . . . downgrading our ALS engine companies in order to provide the SUBSTANTIATION: There is no benefit to requiring a second second paramedic on each of our nine transport units. In a new paramedic, because he/she will be driving the apparatus! cross-training structure. Our department is now providing COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. quicker ALS coverage by putting paramedics on the engine COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on companies. Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on ______Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. ______(Log #783) 1710- 553 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Steve Trackwell, Federal Way Fire Department (Log #853) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 557 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: SUBMITTER: William R. Metcalf, North Lake Tahoe Fire Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a Protection District minimum of two one members providing patient care that are COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 trained to the EMT Paramedic level. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: Why waste the resources of (2) two "5.3.3.3.2.2 Units that provide ALS support shall be staffed with paramedics, one paramedics skills will be wasted while they drive a minimum of two members. At least one of the members the apparatus. Better to have one first responder and one providing patient care that are must be trained to emergency paramedic on board. medical technician - paramedic level." COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: As originally proposed, the standard COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on requires ALS units to be staffed with two (2) emergency medical Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. technician - paramedics. The only reference document referred to in the proposed standard is the 1992 American Heart ______Association (AHA) document, "Guidelines for Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation and Emergency Cardiac Care". (A-5.3.3.4.3) The referenced AHA document does not require two paramedics on an ambulance or recommend any other ambulance staffing model. The subject of ambulance staffing has been exhaustively researched. The result of all of the research is that there is no

370 NFPA 1710 — May 2001 ROC — Copyright 2001, NFPA statistically significant difference in patient outcome (mortality or (Log #896) morbidity) when 2 paramedics are used to staff the vehicle versus 1710- 561 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject other staffing models. Yes, there are lots of anecdotes, but no SUBMITTER: Kirk Owen, Plano Fire Department scientific evidence supporting a minimum staffing level of two COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 paramedics. If the NFPA or the technical committee has RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: scientific evidence that this level of staffing has a demonstrably "...staffed with a minimum of two members. Providing patient better effect, it should be included or referenced in the standard. care that are one shall be trained to emergency medical The changes proposed above recognize that you need at least technician - basic level and one shall be trained to emergency one paramedic to provide advanced life support skills. However, medical technician - paramedic level." it stops short of requiring more than one paramedic given that SUBSTANTIATION: The current text could be interpreted as there is no scientific evidence that there is any advantage two requiring staffing of three; two providing patient care and one paramedics. driving. In addition, many departments operate paramedic COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. engine and/or truck companies. A paramedic from the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on responding engine company can be sent with the transport unit Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. when needed. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. (Log #868) ______1710- 558 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Bud Backer, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety District (Log #901) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 562 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: Robert Black, Pierce County Fire District #5 "Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum of two members providing patient care that are trained RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: to emergency medical technician - paramedic level, one of which "Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a that shall be trained to emergency medical technician - minimum of two members providing patient care that are trained ambulance, and one of which that shall be trained to emergency to emergency medical technician - at least one of which shall be medical technician - paramedic. paramedic level." SUBSTANTIATION: Having a paramedic as a driver for a SUBSTANTIATION: The proposed standard attempts to transporting unit is a waste of taxpayer money. A basic EMT can redefine the level of care required for all ALS transports in an support the paramedic and work as the driver of the unit. environment where ALS dispatch criteria vary widely, on a COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. national basis. Local medical control should prevail on this COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on issue. Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on ______Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. ______(Log #869) (Log #902) 1710- 559 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject 1710- 563 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: William R. Bamattre, Los Angeles Fire SUBMITTER: Larry D. Claiborne, Pierce County Fire District #5 Department, CA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a "Units that provide ALS treatment and transportation shall be minimum of two one members member providing patient care staffed with of minimum of two one member providing patient care that is trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic that are is trained to emergency medical technician-paramedic level. level and one emergency medical technician-basic level." SUBSTANTIATION: The wording in the standard is too SUBSTANTIATION: Requiring two paramedics on ALS restrictive and does not permit any other deployment models transport units reduces the overall number of units that will be currently being utilized including one plus one, assessment available for subsequent alarms. While two paramedics may be engines, etc. beneficial on scene, requiring two to perform transport is not COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. necessary. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. ______

(Log #873) (Log #930) 1710- 560 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject 1710- 564 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Mario D. Rueda, Los Angeles Fire Department, SUBMITTER: Gregg A. Cleveland, Marshfield Fire and Rescue CA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: 5.3.3.3.2.2 should be deleted in its RECOMMENDATION: Revise the following text: entirety. "Units that provide ALS treatment and transportation shall be SUBSTANTIATION: There is no documented evidence that two paramedics on an advanced life support ambulance is more staffed with a minimum of two one member providing patient effective in improving outcomes for patients. Currently Wisconsin care that is trained to emergency medical technician - paramedic is one of only two remaining states that require two paramedics level." per ambulance. Wisconsin is evaluating the advantages of SUBSTANTIATION: The wording in the standard is too reducing the requirement of mandating two paramedics per restrictive and does not permit any other deployment models ambulance to one paramedic and another emergency medical currently being utilized including one plus one, assessment technician basic. Mandating two paramedics per ambulance is engine companies, etc. not an efficient use of valuable medical knowledge, skills, and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. abilities and results in less advanced medical care being provided COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on to a given geographical area. Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on ______Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. ______

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(Log #575) (Log #364) 1710- 565 - (5-3.3.3.2.2, 5-3.3.4.4): Accept in Principle 1710- 568 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject SUBMITTER: James A. VanHorn, Pike Township Fire SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-442 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: RECOMMENDATION: Change the following: "Units that provide ALS transport shall be staffed with a 5.3.3.3.2.2. Staffing minimum of two members providing patient care , one of which Advanced Life Support. Units that provide Advanced Life shall be that are trained to the emergency medical technician - Support shall be staffed with two (2) members providing patient paramedic level." care [that] including one that is trained to emergency medical SUBSTANTIATION: There is no evidence that supports the technician - paramedic level and add an additional sentence to assertion that patient care is improved when the driver of a unit is 5.3.3.4.4 to read as follows: ALS Emergency response deployments a paramedic. The increased cost of staffing each transporting shall include a minimum of two (2) members trained at the unit with two paramedic will eliminate other deployment EMT-P level and two (2) members trained at the EMT-B level strategies to provide patient care. It is more important to have arriving on the scene within the established response time. two paramedics at the scene of an incident stabilizing a patient. SUBSTANTIATION: We [as well as many other fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. departments] provide this service with an ALS Medic unit and an COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on ALS Engine company to any ALS scene. We accomplish this with Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. one (1) paramedic on each responding unit. During an ALS transport, two paramedics are providing patient care. We strongly ______disagree with the requirement of two (2) paramedics on an ALS transport. (Log #14) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. 1710- 569 - (5-3.3.4.2): Reject COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on SUBMITTER: Bruce J. Moeller, Sunrise Fire-Rescue/City of Comments 1710-555 (Log #845) and 1710-595 (Log #846). Sunrise COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: N/A ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The fire department’s EMS for providing first responder with AED shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of a first (Log #925) responder with AED company within a 4-minute response time to 1710- 566 - (5-3.3.3.2.2, 5-3.3.4.4): Accept in Part ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in Chapter 4. SUBMITTER: Dean R. Shank, Central Kitsap Fire Rescue response times determined through task analysis that shall COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 include the characteristics defined in Section 5.3.1.2. The AHJ RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: 5.3.3.3.2.2 Units that provide ALS Advanced Cardiac Life shall establish such standards as a fractile response time at the Support (ACLS) transport shall be staffed with a minimum of two ninety (90) percent level." SUBSTANTIATION: The Committee’s recommendations are in members providing patient care that are trained to emergency conflict with other recommendations, specifically the National medical technician - paramedic level. Institute of Health (NIH), whose work included input from 5.3.3.4.4 Personnel on the scene of ALS emergency response s almost all major medical groups and fire service representatives. deployments shall include a minimum of two members trained at That NIH recommendation called for 5 minute and 9 minute the emergency medical technician - paramedic level in Advanced response times at the 90% fractile level for high priority incidents Cardiac Life Support (ACLS) and two members trained at the (First Responder and ALS respectively). The Committee has emergency medical technician - basic level arriving on scene failed to explain or justify the selection of the 4 minute and 8 within the established response time. minute response time criteria used within the standard. No SUBSTANTIATION: Submitted change more accurately reflects justification was found in the May 2001 ROP. The 1710 the intent and language of the American Heart Association Committee must justify their use of 4 and 8 minute (AHA), 1992 report cited as the basis for this portion of the recommendations with empirical data or should amend their standard. recommendations to permit the AHJ to establish response time Submitted change more accurately reflects the intent and performance standards, a process consistent with the language of the American Heart Association (AHA), 1992 report IAFC/ICMA Accreditation model. cited as the basis for this portion of the standard. References: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Part. (1993). Staffing and Equipping Emergency Medical Services See Committee Action on Comment 1710-595 (Log #846) for Systems: Rapid Identification and Treatment of Acute Myocardial revision to 5.3.3.4.4. Infarction. (NIH Publication No. 93-3304). Rockville, MD: COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee is rejecting the Author. submitter's change to 5.3.3.3.2.2 because ALS response provides COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. more than cardiac life support. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This ______is supported by medical study and is consistent with the Committee's definition of response time. (See Committee Action (Log #669) on Comment 1710-168 (Log #841). 1710- 567 - (5-3.3.3.2.2): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Mel Sorensen, Mohave Valley Fire District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #145) RECOMMENDATION 1710- 570 - (5-3.3.4.2): Reject : Units that provide ALS transports shall SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department be staffed with a minimum of (one member ) providing patient COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 care that are trained to the emergency medical technician - RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: paramedic level. "The fire department’s EMS for providing first responders with SUBSTANTIATION: For small fire districts this is a waste of AED shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of a first man power, and in this year 2000 legislative session in the State of responder with AED company within a four minute response time Arizona the use of a first responder to drive an ambulance was established by the AHJ to 90% of the incidents as established in passed. The funding for more manning is just not there. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Chapter 4." COMMITTEE STATEMENT: SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be See Committee Action on established by AHJ. Comment 1710-555 (Log#845) for revisions to 5.3.3.3.2.2. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are ______necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This is supported by medical study and is consistent with the Committee's definition of response time. 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(Log #246) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first 1710- 571 - (5-3.3.4.2): Reject initiated, the committee considered the different documents it SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 had the authority to write and concluded that the development of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire RECOMMENDATION: Move this section to Annex A-5.3.3.4.2 service. The committee has proceeded to develop the and modify to read 80 percent. requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting SUBSTANTIATION: Section 4.1.3.1 states that the AHJ shall document will strengthen the deployment of resources in include specific response times objectives for each major service communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. component. The response time objectives may vary depending Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change upon the geography and abilities of each jurisdiction. 5.3.3.4.2 is this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire appropriate in the annex, but conflicts with the statutory authority departments and the communities they protect without a standard of AHJ (reference WAC 296-976-390 sec. 12(a)) and would to provide clear direction for improvement of services. present significant liability exposure to jurisdictions if applied across the board if included in the standard itself. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This (Log #850) is supported by medical study and is consistent with the 1710- 575 - (5-3.3.4.2): Reject Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish SUBMITTER: Edmund E. Elliott, Jr., City of Chesapeake Fire more stringent requirements. Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The fire department’s EMS for providing first responder with (Log #649) AED shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of a first 1710- 572 - (5-3.3.4.2): Reject responder with AED company within a 4-minute 5-minute SUBMITTER: Allen Church, Federal Way Fire Dept., WA response time to 90 percent of the incidents as established in COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Chapter 4." RECOMMENDATION: The fire department’s EMS for providing SUBSTANTIATION: In our city of 353 square miles this first responder with AED shall be deployed to provide for the response time is unrealistic and impossible given the current arrival of a first responder with AED company within a 4 6- resources and financial forecast for the city’s budget situation. minute response time to 90 80 percent of the incidents as COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. established in Chapter 4. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are SUBSTANTIATION: The rationale for my proposed change is necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This due to the inclusion of reaction time (turnout time) in the is supported by medical study and is consistent with the response time standard, as well as the fact that many jurisdictions Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish utilize engine companies for these types of responses. I propose more stringent requirements. the 6 minute response 80% of this time for all but ALS unit initial responses. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This (Log #304) is supported by medical study and is consistent with the 1710- 576 - (5-3.3.4.2. 5-3.3.4.3, 5-3.3.4.4): Reject Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services more stringent requirements. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Replace shall with should and insert ______recommended after a and before XX minute response time... (remainder as printed) (Log #768) SUBSTANTIATION: Rural, and small, departments covering 1710- 573 - (5-3.3.4.2): Reject large areas, small populations, and with limited funds can work SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue toward "recommended" response times over a longer time COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 period. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. . . . AED company within a 4 minute 6 minute response time . . . COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first SUBSTANTIATION: The scope of this standard refers to a initiated, the committee considered the different documents it minimum standard. As such, arrival times of 6 and 10 minutes are had the authority to write and concluded that the development of much more appropriate as minimums. They also match a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire previously adopted standards by the Department of Defense for service. The committee has proceeded to develop the military fire departments of 6 and 10 minutes respectively. requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. document will strengthen the deployment of resources in COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change is supported by medical study and is consistent with the this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish departments and the communities they protect without a standard more stringent requirements. to provide clear direction for improvement of services. ______(Log #811) 1710- 574 - (5-3.3.4.2): Reject (Log #15) SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. 1710- 577 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Bruce J. Moeller, Sunrise Fire-Rescue/City of RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Sunrise "The fire department’s EMS for providing first responder with COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: N/A AED shall should be deployed to provide for the arrival of the RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: first responder with AED company within a 4-minute response "When provided, the fire department’s EMS for providing ALS time to ninety (90) percent of the incidents as established in shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of an ALS company Chapter 4." within an 8 minute response time to ninety (90) percent of the SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have a 4 minute incidents as established in Chapter 4. response times determined response time for EMS first responder services, response times through task analysis that shall include the characteristics defined provided are the service level decisions of the governing body. in Section 5.3.1.2. The AHJ shall establish such standards as a The response time levels identified in the draft document fractile response time at the ninety (90) percent level." should be provided as recommended levels. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject.

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SUBSTANTIATION: The Committee’s recommendations are in Paul L. Benson, Chino Valley Independent Fire District conflict with other recommendations, specifically the National (Log #1209) Institute of Health (NIH), whose work included input from Ted Biermann, Adams County Fire Protection District No. 2 almost all major medical groups and fire service representatives. (Log #591) That NIH recommendation called for 5 minute and 9 minute Doug Branch, Boring Fire District (Log #1114) response times at the 90% fractile level for high priority incidents Joe Brewer, Lorane RFPD (Log #449) (First Responder and ALS respectively). The Committee has James Broman, Lacey Fire District #3 (Log #1257) failed to explain or justify the selection of the 4 minute and 89 James Brooker, Mohawk Valley rural Fire District (Log #441) minute response time criteria used within the standard. No Jon R. Brown, Marion County Fire Dist. #1 (Log #631) justification was found in the May 2001 ROP. The 1710 John A. Brubaker, Salida Fire Protection District (Log #583) Committee must justify their use of 4 and 8 minute John Ceko, Lake Valley Fire Protection District (Log #393) recommendations with empirical data or should amend their Don Chumley, Whatcom County Fire Dist. 4 (Log #638) recommendations to permit the AHJ to establish response time William H. Combs, Sutherlin, OR (Log #433) performance standards, a process consistent with the James B. Court, Lapine Rural Fire Protection District (Log #623) IAPC/ICMA Accreditation model. David D. Curtis, Central Yavapai Fire District (Log #1051) References: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Terry R. Dean, Glide Fire District (Log #377) (1993). Staffing and Equipping Emergency Medical Services George Degman, Gardiner Rural Fire Deparment (Log #1195) Systems: Rapid Identification and Treatment of Acute Myocardial Scott Dodd, II, Lake Oswego Fire, Rescue & Life Safety Infarction. (NIH Publication No. 93-3304). Rockville, MD: (Log #1187) Author. Gary F. Duignan, Forestville Fire Protection District (Log #425) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Tom Fay, Deschutes County RFPD #2 (Log #1249) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are Jim Findley, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #465) necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This J. W. Foster, Yelm Fire District (Log #1084) is supported by medical study and is consistent with the John F. Fowler, Pendleton Fire And Ambulance Service (Log Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish #555) more stringent requirements. Joseph Reed Glasmann, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #1273) ______Michael Grant, Pierce County Fire District # 8 (Log #481) Jeff Griffin, Oregon Fire Chiefs Association (Log #1130) Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #457) (Log #146) Robert V. Heald, Humboldt No. 1 Fire Protection (Log #1217) 1710- 578 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject Larry E. Hoffman, Whatcom County Fire District No. 7 SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #1002) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Calvin Johnson, Lewis County Fire Dist. #2 (Log #409) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Casey Jones, Salem Fire Department (Log #204) "When provided, the fire department’s EMS for providing ALS Wayne Kier, Sr., Jefferson County Fire Protection Dist. #3 shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of an ALS company (Log #1078) within an eight minute a response time established by the AHJ to Mark Kimm, Yakima County Fire District # 5 (Log #1024) 90% of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." Richard A. Knight, Fire Protection Dist #5 Mason County, WA SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be (Log #385) established by AHJ. Ted Kunze, Canby Fire District #62 (Log #1067) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Larry J. Langston, Bend Fire Department (Log #1138) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Douglas Lilja, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 Minimum response times are (Log #987) necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This Duane M. Malo, Washington State Association of Fire Chiefs is supported by medical study and is consistent with the (Log #951) Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish Chad E. Minter, Coburg Fire District (Log #215) more stringent requirements. Dale Mitchell, Pierce County Fire Dist. #8 (Log #473) Patrick Murphy, Murphy's Fire Protection District (Log #1225) ______Margaret J. Nyman, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 (Log #943) (Log #247) Paul Olheiser, Knappa Fire District (Log #1154) 1710- 579 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject Lyle J. Payne, Pleasant Hill RFPD (Log #277) SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 Sam Phillips, Glide Fire District (Log #1171) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Mark Prince, Gaston Fire District (Log #607) RECOMMENDATION: Move this section to Annex A 5.3.3.4.3 Roger K. Purdie, Vista Fire Department (Log #542) and modify to read 80 percent. Patrick Reitz, Crooked River Ranch rural Fire Protection District SUBSTANTIATION: (Log #1241) Section 4.1.3.1 states that the AHJ shall Joe Richardson, Mid-Columbia Fire & Rescue (Log #1122) include specific response times objectives for each major service Katianne Richins, Aumsville , OR (Log #1163) component. The response time objectives may vary depending Cleve Rooper, Cannon Beach RFPD (Log #1107) upon the geography and abilities of each jurisdiction. 5.3.3.4.3 is Donald L. Rowe, Sisters-Camp Sherman RFPD (Log #1203) appropriate in the annex, but conflicts with the statutory authority Gary Russell, Whatcom County Fire Protection Dist. No. 7, of AHJ (reference WAC 296-976-390 sec. 12 (a)) and would (Log #1048) present significant liability exposure to jurisdictions if applied Ed Sherrell, Black Butte Ranch RFPD (Log #497) across the board if included in the standard itself. Jim Shields, Poulsbo Fire Department (Log #959) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. John Sholtys, City of Toppenish Fire Dept (Log #1016) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are Randy Smith, Placer Consolidated Fire Proection District necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This (Log #489) is supported by medical study and is consistent with the Skip Smith, Santa Clara Rural Fire Protection Distric (Log #599) Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish Bill Smith, Baker City Fire Department (Log #615) more stringent requirements. Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #9) John Stein, Dallas Fire Dept. (Log #1099) ______Daniel Stout, Spokane County Fire Protection District 8 (Log #168) Maggie Sweetin, Philomath Rural Fire District #4 (Log #1265) (Log #338) Terrence N. Thomas, Walla Walla Fire Department (Log #980) 1710- 580 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject Daniel Tilson, Glide Fire District (Log #417) SUBMITTER: Bill Leming, Myrtle Creek Fire Department Lawrence E. Tucker, Scio Rural Fire District (Log #974) Gary Anderson, Colton Fire Department (Log #535)) Darin Welburn, Jackson County Fire Dist. #5 (Log #1179) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1032) Tom Wells, Sutherlin, OR (Log #1146) Norman G. Angelo, Kent Fire Dept. (Log #1040) Duane Whitelaw, North Tahoe Fire Protection District Donald M. Baker, North Lincoln Fire & Rescue District #1 (Log #1089) (Log #1056)

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Warren Wilkes, Ebbetts Pass Fire District (Log #549) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Patrick Wills, Philomath Rural Fire Protection District #4 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first (Log #1233) initiated, the committee considered the different documents it Keith E. Woodley, Ashland Fire & Rescue (Log #401) had the authority to write and concluded that the development of COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: service. The committee has proceeded to develop the "When provided, the fire department’s emergency medical requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting services for providing Advanced Life Support shall be deployed to document will strengthen the deployment of resources in provide for the arrival of an Advanced Life Support company communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. within an eight (8) minute response time to ninety (90) percent Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change of the incidents as established in Chapter 4 as quickly as this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire possible." departments and the communities they protect without a standard SUBSTANTIATION: Response time requirements do not take to provide clear direction for improvement of services. into consideration factors outside the operator’s control. This standard will place personnel in unsafe conditions. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This (Log #820) is supported by medical study and is consistent with the 1710- 584 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish SUBMITTER: Allison Duke, III, Bremerton Fire Dept. more stringent requirements. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: ______"When provided, the fire department’s emergency medical services for providing Advanced Life Support shall be deployed to (Log #746) provide for the arrival of an Advanced Life Support company 1710- 581 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject within an eight (8) minute response time to ninety (90) percents SUBMITTER: William D. Lanford, Buckeye Valley Rural of the incidents as established in Chapter 4 in a safe and efficient Volunteer Fire Dist. manner as determined by the local authority." COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Response time requirements do not take RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: into consideration factors outside the operators control. This When provided, the Fire Department’s emergency medical standard will place personnel in unsafe conditions and services for providing advanced life support shall be deployed to determined by local authority. provide for the arrival of an advanced life support company COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. within an eight (8) minute response time to ninety (90) percent COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are of the incidents as established in Chapter 4. as quickly as necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This possible. is supported by medical study and is consistent with the SUBSTANTIATION: Required response times do not take into Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish consideration these factors not in our control. This will push more stringent requirements. personnel into unsafe conditions. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This (Log #879) is supported by medical study and is consistent with the 1710- 585 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish SUBMITTER: Michael B. Sherman, Newberg Fire Department more stringent requirements. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: ______"When provided, the fire department’s emergency medical services for providing Advanced Life Support shall be deployed to (Log #767) provide for the arrival of an Advanced Life Support company (as 1710- 582 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject quickly as possible) (in a minimum time established by the local SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue jurisdiction having authority.) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: Arbitrarily requiring aggressive minimum RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: response times only serves the creation of unsafe practices, to . . . ALS company within an 8 minute 6 minute response time to usurp local priorities, and to disregard demographic and 90 percent . . . geographic differences in the different regions of the country. SUBSTANTIATION: As currently proposed, ALS departments Almost all departments will not be able to comply regardless of may use an 8 minute response time standard. That actually lowers this standard’s intent. service levels. The minimum should be 6 minutes, based on COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. American Heart Association outcomes data. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are is supported by medical study and is consistent with the necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish is supported by medical study and is consistent with the more stringent requirements. Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. ______(Log #329) (Log #812) 1710- 586 - (5-3.3.4.3, 5-3.3.4.4): Reject 1710- 583 - (5-3.3.4.3): Reject SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of 5-3.3.4.3 and 5-3.3.4.4 to RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: read as follows: "When provided, the fire department’s EMS for providing ALS 5-3.3.4.3 The fire department’s resources for providing first shall should be deployed to provide for the arrival of an ALS responder with AED shall be deployed to provide for the arrival company within a 8-minute response time to ninety (90) percent of a unit with this capability within a 4-minute response time to at of the incidents as established in Chapter 4." least 80 percent of the incidents, as described in Chapter 4. SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have a 8minute 5-3.3.4.4 The fire department’s resources for providing ALS response time for EMS ALS services, response times provided are shall be deployed to provide for the arrival of a unit with this the service level decisions of the governing body. capability within an 8-minute response time to at least 80 percent The response time levels identified in the draft document of the incidents, as described in Chapter 4. should be provided as recommended levels.

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SUBSTANTIATION: The 90 percent performance requirement SUBSTANTIATION: This paragraph appears to contradict is an unrealistic expectation for most fire departments. An 80 paragraph 5.3.3.3.2.2 above, which requires that tow EMT - P’s be percent performance level should be attainable with well provided where agencies provide ALS transport. For departments deployed resources. providing ALS Engines (Paramedic Engines), which would Editorial corrections are also included. appear to be covered by 5.3.3.4.4, the provision of two EMT - P’s COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. is unnecessary and not feasible in many communities. The same COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Minimum response times are analogy applies to the requirement for two EMT’s on the engine necessary for a safe, efficient, and effective EMS deployment. This to assist the EMT- P’s one and one should be sufficient. is supported by medical study and is consistent with the COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Committee's definition of response time. The AHJ may establish COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement on more stringent requirements. Comment 1710-595 (Log # 846). ______

(Log #70) (Log #576a) 1710- 587 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject 1710- 591 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department SUBMITTER: Ralph Webster, Woodstock Fire/Rescue District COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: ALS emergency response deployments shall include a minimum 5.3.3.4.4 ALS emergency response deployments shall include a of two members trained at the emergency medical technician - minimum of two members trained at the emergency medical paramedic level and two members trained at the emergency technician paramedic level and two members trained at the medical technician - basic level arriving on scene within the emergency medical technician basic level arriving on the scene established response time. within the established response time. SUBSTANTIATION: There is absolutely no justification for this SUBSTANTIATION: Many ALS calls do not require four EMS requirement. The same outcomes can be achieved with three personnel and are appropriately and adequately handled by two EMT’s and one paramedic, for a lot less money. This paragraph to three personnel. Also, this decision, as with all decisions should be deleted entirely. regarding EMS response, should be left to the local medical COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. director, or the state department of public health, who can better COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement on decide what is in the best interest of their particular population Comment 1710-595 (Log #846). and achievable by their EMS providers. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement on Comment 1710-595 (Log # 846). (Log #147) ______1710- 588 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (Log #766) RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710- 592 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject ALS emergency response deployments shall include a minimum SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue of two members at least one member trained at the emergency COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 medical technician - paramedic level and two one member RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: trained at the emergency medical technician - basic level arriving . . . minimum of two one members trained at the emergency on scene within the established response time." medical technician-paramedic level an two one members trained SUBSTANTIATION: Not all ALS calls require 4 personnel on at the . . . scene. In many cases this would present a great hardship to SUBSTANTIATION: There is absolutely no empirical data smaller departments. This could be a waste of personnel available to support 4 personnel, 2 paramedics and 2 EMTs, for resources. every ALS response. This is a minimum consensus standard. As COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. such, the appropriate minimum staffing level for an ALS response COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement on is one paramedic and one EMT. Comment 1710-595 (Log #846). COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement on ______Comment 1710-595 (Log # 846). ______(Log #248) 1710- 589 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 (Log #779) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 593 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Move this section to Annex A 5.3.3.4.4. SUBMITTER: Don Bivins, Vancouver Fire Dept. SUBSTANTIATION: There is no empirical evidence that two COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 EMT-Paramedics guarantee a higher level of patient care or better RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: patient outcomes. To require two EMT-Paramedics is elevating ALS emergency response deployments shall include a minimum the standard above the justified minimum and conflicts with the of two members trained at the emergency medical technician - established statutory requirement. paramedic level and or two members trained at the emergency COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. medical technician - basic level arriving on scene within the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See committee Statement on established response time. Comment 1710-595 (Log # 846). SUBSTANTIATION: The current wording requires ALS first response agencies to also have a BLS component. Changing the ______"and" to "or" allows the ALS agencies to continue an ALS system, and the BLS agencies to provide a BLS system. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (Log #509) COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement on 1710- 590 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject Comment 1710-595 (Log # 846). SUBMITTER: Robert L. Ridgeway, Gastonia Fire Dept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "ALS emergency response deployments shall include a minimum of two members one member trained at the EMT - P level and two members one member trained at the EMT - Basic level arriving on the scene within the established response time.

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(Log #813) for consistency, as this standard is a deployment standard. The 1710- 594 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject appropriate dispatch and arrival of trained personnel at the EMT- SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. P level for an ALS incident is critical to provide the necessary level COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 of patient care. In some jurisdictions, either by state or province, RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: the medical licensing requirements are based on transport "ALS emergency response deployments should shall include a capabilities (see Committee Action on Comment 1710 Log # minimum of two members trained at the emergency medical 845), not on how personnel are deployed. The individual technician - paramedic level and two members trained at the caregiver's level of training dictates to what level that they may emergency medical technician - basic level arriving on scene provide patient care. In an ALS incident, based on medical within the established response time." expertise and experience the need for two EMT-P is critical in SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have a 8 minute doing patient assessment and care. The arrival and assistance of response time for EMS ALS services, response times provided are members trained at the EMT-B level can assist EMT-P to a level to the service level decisions of the governing body. which they are trained and authorized. The survivability of the While it is desirable to have 4 or more personnel, 2 being patient requires this level of training. ALS incidents include more paramedics, on every ALS response, the level of staffing is the than cardiac events. decision of the governing body. The staffing levels identified in the draft document should be provided as recommended levels. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first initiated, the committee considered the different documents it (Log #851) had the authority to write and concluded that the development of 1710- 596 - (5-3.3.4.4): Reject a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire SUBMITTER: Edmund E. Elliott, Jr., City of Chesapeake Fire service. The committee has proceeded to develop the Department requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 document will strengthen the deployment of resources in RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. "5.3.3.4.4 ALS emergency response deployments shall include a Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change minimum of two one members trained at the emergency medical this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire technician - paramedic level and two members trained at the departments and the communities they protect without a standard emergency medical technician - basic level arriving on scene to provide clear direction for improvement of services. within the established response time." ______SUBSTANTIATION: This standard would require placing many, as many as 50 percent, of our ALS units out of service. (Log #846) Because of the geographic size (353 square miles) of our city, our 1710- 595 - (5-3.3.4.4): Accept in Principle in Part paramedics are strategically located throughout on both engine SUBMITTER: Brian D. Johnson, International Association of companies and transport units. Fire Chiefs COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See committee action Comment at RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 1710-595 (Log # 846). "Personnel on the scene of ALS emergency responses deployments shall include a minimum of two members trained at ______the emergency medical technician paramedic level in Advanced Cardiac Life Support (ACLS) and two members trained at the emergency medical technician - basic level arriving on scene (Log #330) within the established response time." 1710- 597 - (5-4.1, 5.4.2): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: Submitted change more accurately reflects SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY the intent and language of the American Heart Association COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (AHA), 1992 report cited as the basis for this portion of the RECOMMENDATION: Delete 5-4.1 as proposed and renumber standard. the remainder of Section 5-2. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle in Part. Revise text of proposed 5-4.2 (renumbered as 5-4.1 to read as Revise 5.3.3.4.4 to read: "Personnel deployed to ALS emergency follows: responses shall include a minimum of two members trained at "5-4.1 The fire department shall adopt a special operations the emergency medical technician - paramedic level and two response plan and standard operating procedures that define the members trained at the emergency medical technician - basic role and responsibilities of the fire department and the level arriving on scene within the established response time. authorized functions of members responding to hazardous materials incidents and other categories of special operations Change and add the following references to A-5.3.3.4.3: incidents." Guidelines 2000 for Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation and SUBSTANTIATION: The proposed text of 5-4.1 is confusing Emergency Cardiac Care, JAMA; Basic Trauma Life Support for and includes requirements that are not essential to the objectives Paramedics and Other Providers ACEP; Pre-Hospital Trauma Life of the document. It is not essential for every initial arriving Support, ACS; Pediatric Advanced Life Support, AHA; Emergency company to perform every type of special operations function Care and Transportation of the Sick and Injured, AAOS. provided by the fire department and it is not essential to have additional alarm assignment capabilities for every function. The Add the following references to B.1.2: requirements should be based on an analysis of local risks. The amendment to 5-4.2 (renumbered as 5-4.1) captures the Guidelines 2000 for Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation and essential requirements. Emergency Cardiac Care, American Heart Association; August COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 2000. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Current language is clear and the requirement does capture essential special operation Basic Trauma Life Support for Paramedics and Other Providers, requirements. American College of Emergency Physicians; John Campbell (ed); 1997. ______Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support, American College of Surgeons; Paturaas, Wertz and McSwain (eds); 1999. (Log #69) 1710- 598 - (5-4.6): Accept Pediatric Advanced Life Support, American Heart Association; SUBMITTER: Gary Fisher, City of Yuma Fire Department Besson (ed); 1997. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Emergency Care and Transportation of the Sick and Injured, "If a higher level of emergency response is needed beyond the American Association of Orthopedic Surgeons; Browner (ed); capability of the fire department for special operations, the fire 1999. department shall determine the availability of outside recourses COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee agrees with the resources that deploy these capabilities and the procedures for intent of the submitter, and has revised the language to provide initiating their response. The fire department shall be limited to

377 NFPA 1710 — May 2001 ROC — Copyright 2001, NFPA performing only those specific operations functions for which its Change 5.5.5.1.1 to read: "These companies shall be staffed as personnel have been trained and are properly equipped." required by NFPA 403, Standard for Aircraft Rescue and Fire- SUBSTANTIATION: This is an editorial change only. Fighting Services at Airport. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See new Text as revised in 5.5 Airport Fire Department Rescue and Fire-Fighting Services. ______(Log #148) 1710- 599 - (5-4.6): Accept (Log #149) SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department 1710- 603 - (5-5.4.2.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department RECOMMENDATION: I believe that resources is misspelled on COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 710-599 the third line of this paragraph. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: None. "The fire department shall identify minimum company staffing COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. levels as necessary to meet the deployment criteria required in 5.5.6 to ensure that a sufficient number of members are assigned, ______on duty, and available to safely and effectively respond with each company as established by the AHJ." SUBSTANTIATION: None. (Log #331) COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. 1710- 600 - (5-5): Accept COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that SUBMITTER: J. Gordon Routley, Champlain, NY minimum requirements for fire department services, including COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a RECOMMENDATION: Renumber 5-5.5.3 as 5-5.5.2 and revise document addressing fire department deployment and text to read as follows: organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent "...to assist ARFF engine and ladder companies where deemed requirements. necessary..." Renumber 5-5.5.3.1 as 5-5.5.5.2.1. ______Renumber existing 5-5.5.2. SUBSTANTIATION: Suggested editorial improvement. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. (Log #150) 1710- 604 - (5-5.5.1.1): Reject ______SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 5 RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. (Log #567) SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing should be left to AHJ. 1710- 601 - (5-5): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Keith MacIsaac, Wheeling Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum number of personnel needed for ARFF response is RECOMMENDATION: Need to amend text to reflect that this necessary for a safe, effective, and efficient operation. AHJ may section only applies to those airports that are required by the FAA establish more stringent requirements. However, staffing levels to have ARFF units on-site. for ARFF units are established by the Technical Committee on SUBSTANTIATION: Not all airports are required by the FAA to Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting. See Committee Action on 1710- have on-site ARFF personnel/units (example: general aviation 602 (Log #1280). airports). In these cases, ARFF services are provided by off-site personnel/units that could not comply with the response time ______provisions contained within this section. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The current language in this (Log #249) Chapter describes the airports and level of protection where this 1710- 605 - (5-5.5.1.1): Reject standard applies. SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "These companies shall be staffed as required by 5.2.2 with a minimum of three on-duty personnel." (Log #1280) SUBSTANTIATION: There is no evidence that four persons 1710- 602 - (5-5): Accept in Principle responding on a single apparatus is any more effective than four SUBMITTER: Technical Committee on Aircraft Rescue and Fire persons responding on two pieces of apparatus. The goal should Fighting be to have adequate personnel at the scene. Establishing a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-517 standard of three persons on an ARFF company could pose an RECOMMENDATION: Delete the material added by Proposal economically unacceptable requirement on many jurisdictions. 1710-517. This is an appropriate inclusion in the annex. SUBSTANTIATION: At a joint task group meeting of the two The proposed staffing requirements of 5.2 (Fire Suppression); technical committees, NFPA 1710 and 403, it was agreed upon 5.5 (Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting Services); 5.6 (Marine that any references to response and deployment capabilities to Rescue and Firefighting Services) and 5.7 (Wildland Fire "aircraft emergencies" was within the scope of NFPA 403, and not Suppression Services) are inconsistent as written. 5.2 mandates this technical committee. It was also agreed upon that for any specific levels, while 5.5, 5.6 and 5.7 states "On-duty ____ "other" identified responses at an airport, those response, personnel shall be comprised of the numbers necessary for safe deployment and staffing capabilities would then be covered by and effective firefighting performance relative to the expected text in NFPA 1710. While this technical committee agrees with ______conditions. This same standard should be used for 5.2. the intent of the submitter, the submitter has requested that this COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. whole section of 5.5 be removed. This technical committee has COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the revised the section to address those agreed upon issues, regarding minimum number of personnel needed for ARFF response is response to other emergencies at an airport, by airport fire necessary for a safe, effective, and efficient operation. AHJ may departments. We have re-titled the section to reflect airport fire establish more stringent requirements. However, staffing levels departments, not the specificity to Aircraft Rescue Firefighting for ARFF units are established by the Technical Committee on (ARFF). This new section 5.5 reflects these changes. Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting. See Committee Action on 1710- Furthermore, a joint task group would then be appointed by the 602 (Log #1280). respective chairs to develop specific proposals regarding deployment and staffing for "aircraft emergencies" for the next ______edition of NFPA 403. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle.

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(Log #854) (Log #651) 1710- 606 - (5-5.5.1.1): Reject 1710- 610 - (5-7): Reject SUBMITTER: Edward Gillner, Boeing SUBMITTER: Allen Church, Federal Way Fire Dept., WA COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: RECOMMENDATION: The authority having jurisdiction shall "5.5.5.1.1 These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of determine if the local fire department should train and equip three two on duty personnel." personnel and apparatus to effectively handle wildland fire SUBSTANTIATION: National Aerospace Standard #3306 titled suppression. "Facility Requirements for Aircraft Operations" sheet 15 of 21, SUBSTANTIATION: The standard as currently written does not Table 5.1 shows ARFF staffing minimum of two. The number is address who establishes the requirement for wildland fire based on formulas provided by government guidelines and NFPA suppression services. My proposal returns this authority to the documents for equipment and staffing. The change will prevent local jurisdiction and authority therein. confusion on both nationally recognized standards. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Note: Supporting material available for review upon request at COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee feels that the NFPA headquarters. organizational statement required in Section 4.7 covers this issue. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that the ______minimum number of personnel needed for ARFF response is necessary for a safe, effective and efficient operation. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. However, staffing (Log #305) levels for ARFF units are established by the Technical Committee 1710- 611 - (5-7.4.1.1): Accept on Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting. See Committee Action on SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services 1710-602 (Log #1280). COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Insert a new subsection 3 and renumber ______remainder. "The number of trained response personnel available to the department including mutual aid resources." (Log #151) SUBSTANTIATION: A prime consideration factor must include 1710- 607 - (5-5.5.2): Reject the expected manpower from on-duty, off-duty, volunteer, and SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department mutual aid personnel. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. RECOMMENDATION: Delete all. SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing levels should be left to AHJ. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that fire department minimum staffing requirements are a critical (Log #306) component of a deployment standard for career fire departments. 1710- 612 - (5-7.4.2.1): Reject The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: "The fire department shall should identify minimum ... are assigned, on-duty or off-duty and available to safely and effectively (Log #152) respond with each company." 1710- 608 - (5-5.7.1): Reject SUBSTANTIATION: Most small and rural fire departments SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department must utilize off-duty personnel to augment their staffing. These COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 responders typically can respond in a timely manner and RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: supplement the staffing of companies. "ARFF companies that deploy to structural incidents on airport COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. property shall meet the response time requirements of 4.1.3.1.1 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first the AHJ." initiated, the committee considered the different documents it SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be left to had the authority to write and concluded that the development of AHJ. a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. service. The committee has proceeded to develop the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting minimum requirements for fire department services, including document will strengthen the deployment of resources in staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. document addressing fire department deployment and Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire requirements. departments and the communities they protect without a standard to provide clear direction for improvement of services. (See ______Committee Action on Comment 1710-327 (Log #298). ______(Log #153) 1710- 609 - (5-5.7.2): Reject SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department (Log #154) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 613 - (5-7.5.1.1): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBMITTER: Rick Southey, Bullhead City Fire Department "ARFF companies that deploy to emergency medical incidents COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 on airport property shall meet the response time requirements of RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: 4.1.3.1.1 the AHJ." "These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on- SUBSTANTIATION: Response time criteria should be left to duty personnel required by AHJ." AHJ. SUBSTANTIATION: Staffing should be left to AHJ. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that minimum requirements for fire department services, including minimum requirements for fire department services, including staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a staffing, deployment, and response criteria are necessary for a document addressing fire department deployment and document addressing fire department deployment and organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent requirements. requirements. ______

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(Log #365) SUBSTANTIATION: Changing the language to comprised of 1710- 614 - (5-7.5.1.1): Reject allows the AHJ the ability to assemble personnel into companies SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 at the incident. The proposed change provides operational COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 flexibility without jeopardizing employee safety. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "These companies shall be staffed with comprised of a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The word "staff" is the common minimum of four on-duty personnel." nomenclature used to describe the personnel component of a SUBSTANTIATION: Changing the language to comprised of deployment system. allows the AHJ the ability to assemble personnel into companies at the incident. The proposed change provides operational ______flexibility without jeopardizing employee safety. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The word "staff" is the common (Log #874) nomenclature used to describe the personnel component of a 1710- 618 - (5-7.6.1.2): Accept deployment system. SUBMITTER: Mario D. Rueda, Los Angeles Fire Department, CA ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: (Log #814) Personnel assigned to the initial arriving company shall have the 1710- 615 - (5-7.5.1.1): Reject capability to implement an IRIC. SUBMITTER: Bobby Williams, Spokane Fire Dept. SUBSTANTIATION: This concept is not practical in wildland COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 setting. Delete this section. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. "These companies should shall be staffed with a minimum of four on-duty personnel." ______SUBSTANTIATION: While it is desirable to have 4 or more personnel on every company for wildland fires, the level of staffing is the decision of the governing body. The staffing levels (Log #872) identified in the draft document should be provided as 1710- 619 - (5-7.6.2.3(b)): Reject recommended levels. SUBMITTER: Mario D. Rueda, Los Angeles Fire Department, COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. CA COMMITTEE STATEMENT: When this project was first COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 initiated, the committee considered the different documents it RECOMMENDATION: Revise the following text: had the authority to write and concluded that the development of "Provision of one operator who shall remain with each fire a "minimum standard" would be in the best interest of the fire apparatus supplying water flow to ensure uninterrupted water service. The committee has proceeded to develop the flow. Supply lines shall be maintained by an operator who shall requirements for such a standard and feels the resulting ensure uninterrupted water flow application. document will strengthen the deployment of resources in SUBSTANTIATION: The wording clarifies the intent of the communities protected by substantialy all career fire departments. section and provides consistency with 5.2.3.2.2(b). Changing the word "shall" to "should" at this time would change COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. this document to a recommended practice or guide and leave fire COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Current language is clear departments and the communities they protect without a standard to provide clear direction for improvement of services. ______(Log #871) 1710- 620 - (5-7.6.3.2): Accept SUBMITTER: Mario D. Rueda, Los Angeles Fire Department, (Log #865) CA 1710- 616 - (5-7.5.1.1): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Bud Backer, Woodinville Fire and Life Safety RECOMMENDATION: Delete the following text: District "When an incident escalates beyond the initial full alarm COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 assignment or when there is significant risk to firefighters due to RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: the magnitude of the incident, the incident commander shall "These companies shall be staffed with a minimum of four on upgrade the IRIC to a full RIC. duty personnel. The authority having jurisdiction shall determine SUBSTANTIATION: This provision is not practical in a the staffing level of the company, based on a community risk wildland setting. assessment." COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. SUBSTANTIATION: The size of the company assigned to a station should be left up to the local community to decide what is ______needed. Size of the community and hazards presented should be considered along with the financial resources of the community (Log #693) and fire department. 1710- 621 - (6-3): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Mick McKinley, Bremerton Fire Department COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee has concluded that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 minimum requirements for fire department services, including RECOMMENDATION: New text as follows: staffing, deployment and response criteria are necessary for a 6.3.1 The fire department will require commercial licensing for document addressing fire department deployment and drivers who are likely to drive apparatus beyond 15,000 gvw organization. The AHJ may establish more stringent capacity. requirements. SUBSTANTIATION: The requirements for an increased performance of driving to meet the response criteria that exists in ______this NFPA document will likely increase danger to the public from emergency responses. The standard imposed by states to obtain and maintain a commercial license will ensure a (Log #366) knowledgeable and healthy employee only operates these vehicles. 1710- 617 - (5-7.5.3.1): Reject COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBMITTER: Robert Carnahan, Clackamas County Fire Dist. #1 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Driver requirements are contained COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 in NFPA 1500 Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: and Health Programs, which is referenced in this standard. See "These companies shall be staffed with comprised of a also NFPA 1002, Standard for Fire Apparatus Driver/Operator minimum number of on-duty personnel as required by the Professional Qualifications. tactical, topographical, environmental, fuel (vegetation), and occupancy hazards." ______

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(Log #881) (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be 1710- 622 - (6-4.2): Reject determined based upon local needs. SUBMITTER: Jon R. Brown, Willamette Valley Communications COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. Center 911 COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 address fire suppression companies only. See Committee RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. "Recommend all communication facilities, equipment, staffing and operating procedures shall comply with NFPA 1221 page ______39/06-26-2000." SUBSTANTIATION: The word "shall" contradicts the language used for "Annex B non mandatory referenced publications". (Log #96) "Shall" is a compulsive word. If the committee wants to mandate 1710- 626 - (A-3-1.8): Reject NFPA 1221 1999, don’t do it by reference. The technical SUBMITTER: Ken Parsons, Thurston County Fire Protection committee on NFPA 1221 1999 should be the group to make their District 8 document mandatory. NFPA definition of "shall" 3.2.3 official COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 NFPA definitions. RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. "This response would be to ensure that (a) [add: the] COMMITTEE STATEMENT: NFPA 1221, Standard for the minimum of four [add: approved number] of personnel are Installation, Maintenance, and Use of Emergency Services assigned to and deployed as a company." Communications Systems, is a standard and its reference in 6.4.2 SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all is to make its requirements a mandatory part of NFPA 1710. See companies have a staff of four, which is inconsistent with the Section 2.1. NFPA 1221 is also discussed in Annex A and Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 therefore the reference is repeated in Annex B. See B.1. (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be determined based upon local needs. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to address fire suppression companies only. See Committee (Log #250) Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. 1710- 623 - (A-1-1): Reject SUBMITTER: Ken Walkington, Kitsap Co. Fire Dist #14 ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: A.1.1 Scope - Include text to read: " In an attempt to bring greater clarity to the standard the (Log #104) following definition may be adopted by the jurisdiction having 1710- 627 - (A-3-1.8): Reject authority. " substantially shall mean greater than 49 percent of the SUBMITTER: Arthur Getchman, Thurston County Fire response force". Protection District 8 COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: The dictionary defines "substantially" as RECOMMENDATION "mostly or mainly". By providing a clearer definition jurisdictions : Revise text of third sentence to read: will be able to accurately identify which standard applies. "This response would be to ensure that a [add: the] minimum COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. of four [add: approved number] of personnel are assigned to COMMITTEE STATEMENT: and deployed as a company." The Standards Council has SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all directed the Technical Committee to use the term "substantially" companies have a staff of four, with is inconsistent with the without definition, and left the determination of what constitutes Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 substantially up to the AHJ. (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be determined based upon local needs. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to (Log #35) address fire suppression companies only. See Committee 1710- 624 - (A-3-1.8): Reject Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. SUBMITTER: Dwight B. Van Zanen, Maple Valley Fire and Life Safety ______COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION : Revise text to read as follows: (Log #115) "...this response would to ensure that a the minimum of four 1710- 628 - (A-3-1.8): Reject approved number of personnel are assigned to and deployed as a SUBMITTER: Brian K. VanCamp, Thurston County Fire company..." Protection District 8 SUBSTANTIATION: See A.4.1.1. The existing text assumes that COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 in all jurisdictions the minimum approved staff of a company RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: shall be four. That is inconsistent with the language of 5.6.4.1, "This response would be to ensure that a [add: the] minimum 5.7.4.2.1, and elsewhere. It is also inconsistent with the concepts of four [add: approved number] of personnel are assigned to of local control, and the need to establish service level criteria and deployed as a company." that meets local needs. SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. companies have a staff of four, with is inconsistent with the COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 address fire suppression companies only. See Committee (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. determined based upon local needs. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. ______COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to address fire suppression companies only. See Committee Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. (Log #89) ______1710- 625 - (A-3-1.8): Reject SUBMITTER: Richard Small, Thurston County Fire Protection (Log #224) District 8 1710- 629 - (A-3-1.8): Reject COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBMITTER: Richard Kistler, Thurston County Fire Protection RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: District # 7 "This response would be to ensure that a [add: the] minimum COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 of four [add: approved number] of personnel are assigned to RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: and deployed as a company." "This response would be to ensure that a the minimum of four SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all [add: approved number] of personnel are assigned to and companies have a staff of four, which is inconsistent with the Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 deployed as a company."

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SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all (Log #CC2) companies have a staff of four, which is inconsistent with the 1710- 633 - (A.3.1.8): Accept Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 SUBMITTER: Technical Committee on Fire and Emergency (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be Service Organization and Deployment - Career determined based upon local needs. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. RECOMMENDATION: Change A-3.1.8 by adding the words COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to "For fire suppression," before the word Jurisiction. address fire suppression companies only. See Committee SUBSTANTIATION: This Annex item was written to address Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. only fire suppression and the suggested wording is being added to clarify that. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept.

(Log #253) ______1710- 630 - (A-3-1.8): Reject SUBMITTER: Raymond L. Harry, Thurston County Fire Protection District # 7 (Log #840) COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 634 - (A-3-1.8(f)): Reject RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: SUBMITTER: Brian D. Johnson, International Association of "This response would be to ensure that a the minimum of four Fire Chiefs approved number of personnel are assigned to and deployed as a COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-1 company." RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all "A-3-1.8(f) Company. Jurisdictions exist where the response companies have a staff of four, which is inconsistent with the capability of the initial arriving company is configured with the Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 response of two apparatus. In some jurisdictions, apparatus is (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be not configured with seated and belted positions for four determined based upon local needs. personnel and therefore would respond with an additional COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. vehicle in consort with the initial arriving engine to carry COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to additional personnel. This response would be to ensure that a address fire suppression companies only. See Committee minimum of four personnel are assigned to and deployed as a Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. company. The intent of this definition and the requirements in the standard are to ensure that these two (or more) pieces of ______apparatus would always be dispatched and respond together as a single company. Some examples of this include the following: (1) Engine and tanker/tender that would be responding (Log #264) outside a municipal water district 1710- 631 - (A-3-1.8): Reject (2) Multiple piece company assignment, specified in a fire SUBMITTER: Mike Berman, Thurston County Fire Protection department’s response SOPs, such as an engine company District #7 response with a pumper and a hose wagon COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 (3) Engine with a vehicle personnel carrier RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: (4) Engine and/or truck with an ambulance or rescue unit "This response would be to ensure that a the minimum of four SUBSTANTIATION: Clarifies annex language to meet the intent approved number of personnel are assigned to and deployed as a of comment submitted under 3.1.8(f). company." COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee feels that the companies have a staff of four, which is inconsistent with the current language explains its intent. Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be ______determined based upon local needs. COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to (Log #921) address fire suppression companies only. See Committee 1710- 635 - (A-3-1.8(f)): Reject Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. SUBMITTER: Dean R. Shank, Central Kitsap Fire Rescue COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 ______RECOMMENDATION: Current: Jurisdictions exist where the response capability of the initial arriving company is configured with the response of two (Log #269) apparatus. In some jurisdictions, apparatus is not configured with 1710- 632 - (A-3-1.8): Reject seated and belted positions for four personnel and therefore SUBMITTER: Richard Gleckler, Thurston County Fire would respond with an additional vehicle in consort with the Protection District #7 initial arriving engine to carry additional personnel. This COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 response would be to ensure that a minimum of four personnel RECOMMENDATION: Revise text of third sentence to read: are assigned to and deployed as a company. The intent of this "This response would be to ensure that a the of four approved definition and the requirements in the standard are to ensure that these two (or more) pieces of apparatus would always be number of personnel are assigned to and deployed as a dispatched and respond together as a single company. Some company." examples of this include the following: SUBSTANTIATION: The current language assumes all (1) Engine and tanker/tender that would be responding outside a companies have a staff of four, which is inconsistent with the municipal water district Authority Having Jurisdiction and Sections 5.6.4.1 and 5.7.2.1 (2) Multiple piece company assignment, specified in a fire (and elsewhere). Local control and service levels need to be department’s response SOPs, such as an engine company determined based upon local needs. response with a pumper and a hose wagon COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. (3) Engine with a vehicle personnel carrier COMMITTEE STATEMENT: This Annex item was written to (4) Engine with an ambulance or rescue unit address fire suppression companies only. See Committee Change: Comment 1710-633 (Log #CC2) which clarifies that intent. Jurisdictions exist where the response capability of the initial arriving company is configured with the response of two ______apparatus. 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Response time includes turnout of apparatus department’s response SOPs, such as an engine company and personnel, and is travel time to the emergency incident." response with a pumper and a hose wagon SUBSTANTIATION: Clarifies annex language to meet the intent (3) Engine with a vehicle personnel carrier of comment submitted under 3.1.41.4 which is reprinted below. (4) Engine with an ambulance or rescue unit Segmenting turnout time and response time allows for SUBSTANTIATION: Clarifies annex language to meet the intent collection of data that will assist departments in determining of comment submitted under 3.1.8(f). those areas that meet time objectives. The ability to quantify, COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. separately between turnout time and response time, provides COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee feels that the information to change facilities or procedures in personnel current language explains its intent. turnout, while independent response data will provide fire ______department with specific data for AHJ in making station placement, standards of coverage and response access decisions. (Log #307) COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. 1710- 636 - (A-3-1.21): Accept Delete A-3.1.41.4 SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Action on COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 Comment 1710-168 (Log #841). The Annex text is no longer RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: needed. "High Hazard Occupancy. Also included would be ... medical ______occupancies, and high rise occupancies , and hazardous materials occupancies" (Log #80) SUBSTANTIATION: Occupancies that store or use large 1710- 641 - (A-4-1.3.1.1): Reject quantities of hazardous materials are a high hazard occupancy. SUBMITTER: L. Charles Smeby, Jr., FL State Fire College COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 RECOMMENDATION: New Text: Add a new appendix item to ______read as follows: After a through evaluation of a fire department’s actual timed (Log #885) responses, there may be some areas of the community with 1710- 637 - (A-3-1.41.3): Reject existing response times lower than the standard. SUBMITTER: Jon R. Brown, Willamette Valley Communications For areas that have response times not meeting the minimum Center 911 standard, it is a simple matter of building new stations to meet COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 the response time criteria. For existing situations it is not so RECOMMENDATION: Dispatch Times are addressed in NFPA simple. 1221. In existing developed areas, there may be structures that require SUBSTANTIATION: The Technical Committee may consider heavier responses or quicker response times. For example, an removing this section/paragraph and restructure 3.1.41(Time). older six story walkup apartment of questionable fire resistive If the committee added language from NFPA 1221 2-1.8.1, 1-4 it construction, may take up to ten minutes for fire companies to would provide a performance criteria and staffing/call handling "setup" hoselines to operate on the fire. Remember, newer bench marks. construction is generally built using contemporary building and COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. fire codes. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: No text is recommended. The other major problem of aliening the stations to fit the However, the standard references NFPA 1221 as a mandatory response time standard in existing situations is the reality that it is requirement. not just building one new station, but may require the relocation and building of several fire stations for a new spatial arrangement ______that complies exactly with the standard. Many existing situations of response times below this standard (Log #308) can be justified by cost-benefit analysis or fire hazard potential. It 1710- 638 - (A-3-1.41.4): Reject is recommended that a through analysis be conducted before SUBMITTER: Len A. Malmquist, Central Emergency Services closing, consolidation or relocating any existing fire stations. COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 SUBSTANTIATION: To give guidance to decision makers who RECOMMENDATION: Revise text to read as follows: may look at this standard and attempt to fit existing situations into "Response Time. Response time includes...to the emergency strict compliance with this proposed response time standard. incident from the moment of activation by the dispatch center." COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. SUBSTANTIATION: The time taken to accept and process a COMMITTEE STATEMENT: The committee concluded that call should not be included in response time. This is a such language is not needed in this standard, however, the component that will adversely impact a departments ability to submitter should submit a proposal to the Technical Committee meet the time objectives in this proposed standard, or extend the responsible for NFPA 1201 or 1250. response time. ______COMMITTEE ACTION: Reject. COMMITTEE STATEMENT: See Committee Statement for (Log #CC1) Comment 1710-203 (Log #342). 1710- 642 - (A-4-1.3.1.1(1)): Accept SUBMITTER: Technical Committee on Fire and Emergency ______Service Organization and Deployment - Career COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 1710- 639 - (A-3-1.41.4): Accept in Principle RECOMMENDATION: Add an Annex item to read: SUBMITTER: Dan Packer, East Pierce Fire and Rescue A-4.1.3.1.1 (1). This service delivery requirement is to have fire COMMENT ON PROPOSAL NO: 1710-599 department plan and situate their resources to consistently meet a RECOMMENDATION: Revise text as follows: 4-minute initial company fire suppression response and an 8- Response time includes turnout of apparatus and personnel, minute full alarm fire response assignment. However, it is and is travel time to the emergency incident. recognized that while on some occasions (for example, a SUBSTANTIATION: Clarifies and matches my proposed company is out-of-service for training) the initial company changes to 3.1.41.4. response may not be met in the 4-minute requirement, but the 8- COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept in Principle. minute criterion must always be met. Delete A.3.1.41.4. SUBSTANTIATION: The Committee is adding this explanatory COMMITTEE STATEMENT: Annex text is no longer needed. material to provide clarification of its intent in stating the See Commiittee Action on Comment 1710-168 (Log #841). requirements of 4.1.3.1.1. COMMITTEE ACTION: Accept. ______

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