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PROVINCE OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY First Session Forty-Ninth General Assembly Proceedings of the Standing Committee on Resources October 19, 2020 - Issue 8 Department of Immigration, Skills and Labour Published under the authority of the Speaker of the House of Assembly Honourable Scott Reid, MHA RESOURCE COMMITTEE Department of Immigration, Skills and Labour Chair: Christopher Mitchelmore, MHA Vice-Chair: Jordan Brown, MHA Members: Paul Dinn, MHA Carol Anne Haley, MHA Pam Parsons, MHA Chris Tibbs, MHA Perry Trimper, MHA Sherry Gambin-Walsh, MHA Clerk of the Committee: Mark Jerrett Appearing: Department of Immigration, Skills and Labour Hon. Gerry Byrne, MHA, Minister Remzi Cej, Director of Immigration & Multiculturalism Debbie Dunphy, Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services & Policy Steve French, Departmental Controller Bradley George, Executive Assistant Deanne Howe, Manager of Operations, Workplace Heath, Safety and Compensation Review Division Cynthia King, Director of Income Support Fiona Langor, Deputy Minister Walt Mavin, Assistant Deputy Minister, Employment, Skills & Regional Services Tansy Mundon, Director of Communications Dana Spurrell, Assistant Deputy Minister, Immigration, Workforce Development & Labour Also Present Alison Coffin, MHA Hon. Bernard Davis, MHA, Minister of Tourism, Culture, Arts and Recreation Hon. Lisa Dempster, MHA, Minister Responsible for Indigenous Affairs and Reconciliation Craig Pardy, MHA Scott Fleming, Researcher, Third Party Office Brad Russell, Director of Policy & Research, Official Opposition Office October 19, 2020 RESOURCE COMMITTEE Pursuant to Standing Order 68, Bernard Davis, for leave in a minute if Workplace Health, MHA for Virginia Waters - Pleasantville, Safety and Compensation Review, and elements substitutes for Pam Parsons, MHA for Harbour thereof, could be heard first. Grace - Port de Grave. With that said, thank you very much. I’ll turn it Pursuant to Standing Order 68, Lisa Dempster, over now to start with Fiona Langor. MHA for Cartwright - L’Anse au Clair, substitutes for Sherri Gambin-Walsh, MHA for CHAIR: Can we get Fiona Langor? She’s Placentia - St. Mary’s. sitting in the Minister of Education’s chair. If we could get the light on. In the Minister of Pursuant to Standing Order 68, Alison Coffin, Education’s seat, could we get the light for MHA for St. John’s East - Quidi Vidi, introductions? substitutes for Jordan Brown, MHA for Labrador West. AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible.) The Committee met at 9:07 a.m. in the CHAIR: Oh, it’s not working, okay. The light is Assembly Chamber. not working in that chair. CHAIR (Mitchelmore): Good morning, MS. LANGOR: Good morning. everyone. Fiona Langor, Deputy Minister. We’ll start the Estimates meeting for Immigration, Skills and Labour. CHAIR: Can we get the light on for the Justice and Public Safety chair? Just before we turn things over to Minister Byrne for any introductory remarks, I’ll just CLERK (Jerrett): They’re having technical remind everyone, for the purposes of Hansard, issues. He’s wondering if you could take a short that when you speak to identify yourself and recess. wait for the light before you speak. If you need to, if the light is not coming on, just wave. This CHAIR: Okay. is being recorded. It’s not being webcast, but the Broadcast is certainly watching the proceedings We’re having technical issues, so we’ll recess this morning. for five minutes. If you’re going to be moving around the Recess Chamber you need to wear your mask as part of our COVID policy. CHAIR: Thank you, everyone. With that, I would like to ask Members of the It’s now 9:30. We’ll convene our Estimates Committee and the minister to introduce his Committee meeting for Immigration, Skills and team. Labour. My apologies for the technical issues we had earlier, but we will go right into MR. BYRNE: Thank you very much, Mr. introductions. Chair. Minister Byrne, you had introduced yourself. Delighted to be here, and thank you for everyone assembled. I’ll begin by allowing each and every MR. BYRNE: Yes. member of the Immigration, Skills and Labour team to self-introduce. CHAIR: Do you want to take things away to hand off to your staff? I am Gerry Byrne, Minister of Immigration, Skills and Labour, and a minister who also is MR. BYRNE: Thank you very much, Mr. responsible for the reporting of WorkplaceNL. Chair. This is an autonomous agency, of course. I’ll ask 348 October 19, 2020 RESOURCE COMMITTEE The motto on the coat of arms of the Department MS. DUNPHY: Debbie Dunphy, Assistant of Immigration, Skills and Labour reads: Deputy Minister of Corporate Services and Adversity meets with resiliency. We’re Policy. experiencing that very same motto today, consistent with our approach. MS. MUNDON: Tansy Mundon, Director of Communications. I think we should introduce members of the executive team of Immigration, Skills and MS. KING: Cynthia King, Director of Income Labour, Mr. Chair. Again, I am Gerry Byrne, Support. Minister of Immigration, Skills and Labour and also minister who is responsible for the reporting CHAIR: Now we’ll move to Mr. Dinn. of workplace health and safety, WorkplaceNL. MR. P. DINN: Thank you. With that said, I don’t know if we should move laterally. Fiona Langor, our deputy minister, has Paul Dinn, Member for Topsail - Paradise. moved to meet the microphone challenge in the back of me; Dana Spurrell is to my immediate CHAIR: Ms. Coffin. left. Should we move that way? MS. COFFIN: Thank you. CHAIR: We can go to the left, yes. Alison Coffin, Member for St. John’s East - MS. SPURRELL: Dana Spurrell, Assistant Quidi Vidi and Leader of the New Democratic Deputy Minister of Immigration, Workforce Party. Development and Labour. MS. DEMPSTER: Lisa Dempster, MHA for Good morning. the beautiful District of Cartwright - L’Anse au Clair. MR. GEORGE: Bradley George, I’m the minister’s Executive Assistant. MR. DAVIS: Bernard Davis, Minister of – I was going to say advanced education, skills and CHAIR: We’ll go to Minister Loveless’s desk if labour but that’s in a previous life – Tourism, the light will come on. Culture, Arts and Recreation. I’m happy to be here today. MS. LANGOR: Fiona Langor, Deputy Minister. MR. TRIMPER: Perry Trimper, MHA for Lake Melville. MR. MAVIN: Good morning. MS. HALEY: Carol Anne Haley, MHA for Walt Mavin, Assistant Deputy Minister of Burin - Grand Bank. Employment, Skills and Regional Services. MR. PARDY: Craig Pardy, MHA, District of MR. CEJ: Good morning. Bonavista. I’m here as an observer. Remzi Cej, Director of the Office of MR. RUSSELL: Brad Russell, staff with the Immigration and Multiculturalism. Office of the Official Opposition. MS. HOWE: Deanne Howe, Manager of MR. FLEMING: Scott Fleming, Researcher, Operations with the Workplace Health, Safety Third Party caucus office. and Compensation Review Division. CHAIR: Okay, I thank everybody for MR. FRENCH: Steve French, Departmental convening this morning. During the recess we Controller. had discussed that we would start with subhead 6.1.01, Workplace Health, Safety and Compensation Review. 349 October 19, 2020 RESOURCE COMMITTEE I ask the Clerk to call the subhead. Under Professional Services, we’re looking at a similar reduction of about $61,000 compared to CLERK: 6.1.01. last year. CHAIR: Shall 6.1.01 carry? MS. HOWE: In the past year, the $75,000 allows for the appointment of part-time review I move to Mr. Dinn for his line of questioning. commissioners. Last year, there were three, in total, full-time review commissioners appointed. MR. P. DINN: This should be quick; I won’t We had one part-time review commissioner and keep you here long. three vacancies. The $75,000 allows for the appointment of either a full-time or additional Starting first with Salaries, I see that there was part-time review commissioners. approximately $65,000 less spent. Can you explain the decrease in Salaries? MR. P. DINN: Thank you. MS. HOWE: Sorry (inaudible) question. Moving right along, Purchased Services: Again, you had budgeted $45,000 last year and the MR. DINN: Approximately $65,000 less was actuals were a little over $12,000. Can you spent last year. That was less than what was explain that discrepancy? budgeted in actuals. MS. HOWE: We had less transcription services CHAIR: We go to Deanne Howe, if we could than we had anticipated and we also had much have her light. less hotel rooms due to the slowdown due to COVID and the suspension of travel. The When you speak, if you could say your name bookings for rooms out of town, we travel a lot just for Hansard purposes. out of the regions in the month of March, and that did not happen due to COVID. MS. HOWE: That was due to a couple of vacancies we had throughout the year and a MR. P. DINN: Thank you. delay in some of the recruiting processes. Looking at Property, Furnishings and MR. DINN: Thank you. Equipment, I’m seeing approximately $2,300 less spent. Again, an explanation for that, please. Deanne, you’re going to get a quick number of questions there and probably similar answers. MS. HOWE: That was due to many items being on back order when COVID occurred. There MS. HOWE: Sure. were a lot of things on order and they didn’t come in until the new fiscal year. MR. DINN: Looking at Transportation and Communications, again, there was a substantial MR. P. DINN: Thank you. reduction there; in fact, less than half was spent. Can you explain that as well? You mentioned in some of your responses you talked to full-time commissioners, you had four. MS. HOWE: Yes, much of our travel and How are we doing with the number of communications is done near the end of the year.