Traffic Group Notes from the Meeting Held on Wednesday 8th June 2011 7.00pm

Present:

Sgt Chris Hills - Constabulary PCSO Gavin Cooper - Mr Mark Ward – School Mr Ian Wells -Hursley Village Info Mrs Eleanor Bell -Hursley Parish Council Mr Chris Rowden -Hursley Parish Council Mrs Frederica Teale -Hursley Parish Council Mrs Jan Warwick (Chair) -Hursley Parish Council Mr Joe -Hursley Parish Council Mr John Brooks -Hursley Village Mr Tony White -Hursley Village Mr John Quigley -Hursley Village

Apologies: Nick Molden, Pitt Village Residents’ Group

Item Discussion Action 1. SpeedWatch Sgt Hills outlined Hampshire Police’s SpeedWatch campaign encouraging neighbourhood participation in monitoring speeding vehicles in 30 mph roads. There are two areas in Hampshire now running SpeedWatch in Southampton and Rushmoor. Members of the Hursley Traffic group were interested in seeing SpeedWatch in action. Sgt Hills will contact the group organisers to arrange this. Police vetting of volunteers would take up to six CH weeks. Compton & Shawford PC had suggested a SpeedWatch campaign might cause upset with one neighbour reporting another for speeding. Twyford Parish Council are however investigating the purchase of a suitable speed monitoring device. There was some discussion around whether Hursley and Twyford Parish Councils could reasonably share the purchase cost and use of a device (priced around £2500). Volunteers however, would only be responsible for SpeedWatch in their own Parish. It was decided County Councillors could be approached for a donation towards the purchase cost with a request to the Parish Councils for any shortfall if necessary. With an application to the Fieldfare project as an alternative funding option. Cllr Bell agreed to approach Cllr Bailey (HCC). EB Cllr Warwick agreed to contact Twyford Parish JaW Council. In Hursley the Main Rd and Port Lane were considered to be suitable areas for SpeedWatch 2. Funding If funding is not available for SpeedWatch via the County Councillors then other grants would need to be applied for. Ken Brown from the WCC Fieldfare funding project has offered to go through the application process for this grant for members of HPC on Wed 15th June at 730pm in the Parish Hall. CPRE (Hampshire) are keen to promote village traffic calming and have offered to help with grant applications. Buriton Parish Council obtained funding for their village traffic scheme from several grant awarding bodies totalling £45k. These included the Open Space Fund, Hampshire CC, Natural and the Heritage Lottery Fund. ’s traffic calming measures were funded as part of a pilot project by HCC If Hursley is to consider additional traffic calming measures we would need a survey and recommendations from traffic consultants. Cllr Warwick offered to investigate appropriate grants JaW and the likely cost of a consultation. 3. Alternatives to There were several examples of traffic calming SpeedWatch measures used in the Hampshire villages of Buriton and West Meon. West Meon is similar to Hursley as it has a busy through road.

Traffic calming measures can include:

Permanent flashing ‘30’ sign at entrance Removing unnecessary/obscured road signs Prominent Village entry sign with attractive trees & shrubs Removal of central and junction white lines (Buriton) Central lines at West Meon Making the centre of the village distinctive Low, solid wooden 30 posts at regular intervals Use of traditional cast iron black on white sign posts Use of ‘shared’ pedestrian and vehicle space by cobbled, slightly raised areas –these can form a crossing point when there is no pelican/zebra crossing

4. John Keble There was concern by IBM security about the risk Primary of an accident due to the number of cars parked School/IBM along the road adjacent to the school by parents dropping off children. It made it difficult for cars to turn into Hursley Park Rd. Children and parents walking to school were also crossing at an unsafe point too close to the junction. Parking places are limited at the school and this is exacerbated by parents who park and leave their cars whilst they go off to walk dogs. Parents needed reminding that school parking is for drop off only. Mr Ward agreed to write to parents. MW Additional use of the IMB ‘overflow’ car park – certainly for school functions could be investigated however there was some concern over historic ground contamination and this would need to be clarified with IBM MW/JW 5. Other items Could an extension to the Hursley railings be considered (the only time when parents with young children felt safe walking along the main road) Can the village have a ‘Pelican’ crossing if there are no street lights All We need to consider traffic calming in Pitt/Standon/Poles Lane as part of this project John Brooks suggested the group are technically the Hursley Traffic Group rather than a sub committee of the Parish Council.