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February 1, 2001 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE 1213 SENATE—Thursday, February 1, 2001 The Senate met at 9 a.m., in execu- Mr. CRAPO thereupon assumed the dent. But I recognized that Presidents tive session, and was called to order by chair as Acting President pro tempore. should have fairly large leeway to have the Honorable MICHAEL D. CRAPO, a f the people around them they want. Senator from the State of Idaho. But, again, we also have an obliga- RESERVATION OF LEADER TIME tion, a constitutional obligation, in the PRAYER The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- advise and consent clause in the U.S. The Chaplain, Dr. Lloyd John pore. Under the previous order, leader- Constitution to look over those indi- Ogilvie, offered the following prayer: ship time is reserved. viduals, to give careful scrutiny to Almighty God, this is the day You f those individuals, to make sure that have made, we will seek to serve You we, as a body collectively—at least by in it; this is Your Chamber, we want to NOMINATION OF JOHN ASHCROFT majority vote—are able to believe that honor You in it; this is Your Senate, TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL nominated officials will have the hon- we desire to maintain the unity of The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- esty, the character, and wherewithal to Your Spirit and the bond of peace pore. The Senate will resume consider- carry out their duties and to serve all through it. Give us an acute sense of ation of the Ashcroft nomination, of the American people well. the power of the words we speak. Grant which the clerk will report. After long and difficult deliberation, the Senators the ability to disagree The legislative clerk read the nomi- I have come to the conclusion that without being disagreeable, to declare nation of John Ashcroft, of Missouri, there are significant questions raised truth without depreciation of each oth- to be Attorney General. on John Ashcroft’s fitness to be our er’s character, to state convictions The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- Nation’s chief law enforcement officer. without demeaning disdain, to refrain pore. Under the previous order, the First and foremost, I have serious from egregiousness in an effort to ex- time until 9:15 shall be under the con- concerns about the misleading state- plain, and to judge merits without trol of the majority party. ments Mr. Ashcroft made during the being judgmental. Mr. REID. Mr. President, I suggest confirmation hearings. Dear Father, this is a crucial day for the absence of a quorum. As we all know, Senator Ashcroft the Senate. Remind the Senators on The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- strongly opposed the nomination of Mr. both sides of the aisle that what goes pore. The clerk will call the roll. Jim Hormel as Ambassador to Luxem- around does come around. Bless this The legislative clerk proceeded to bourg. Jim Hormel, a distinguished Senate. Keep the Senators close to You call the roll. lawyer, successful businessman, educa- and to each other so that when the Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I ask tor, philanthropist, a scion of our fa- vote this afternoon is over, we will not unanimous consent the order for the mous midwestern families. We all have have lost the respect that galvanizes quorum call be rescinded. heard of Hormel Meats. We probably had Hormel bacon in the morning, and the reconciliation that heals. We The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem- things such as that. They are a fine simply want to live this day knowing pore. Without objection, it is so or- family who came from Iowa and Min- You will be the judge of what is said dered. nesota. Mr. Hormel, of course, has and how it is said. We commit our- Under the previous order, the time taken up his residency, as of late, in selves to civility and care as men and until 9:30 shall be under the control of San Francisco, I don’t know how many women who are accountable to You. the Senator from Iowa. years ago, but some years ago. Prior to You are our Judge and Redeemer. Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, after re- that, he had been Dean of Students at Amen. viewing his testimony before the Judi- the University of Chicago Law School. f ciary Committee and studying his long I have known Mr. Hormel for many public record, I cannot support the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE years. I consider him a friend. As I nomination of John Ashcroft to be The Honorable MICHAEL D. CRAPO led said, not only is he a great lawyer, United States Attorney General. businessman, educator, and philan- the Pledge of Allegiance, as follows: This is not an easy decision for any I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the thropist, but he is also an outstanding of us. We have all served in this body family man. United States of America, and to the Repub- with former Senator Ashcroft. I cannot lic for which it stands, one nation under God, In 1998, Mr. Ashcroft said he opposed indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. say that I was a personal friend of his. Mr. Hormel’s nomination because he We never associated socially or any- f had—and I quote John Ashcroft’s own thing like that, but I did have dealings words—‘‘actively supported the gay APPOINTMENT OF ACTING with Senator Ashcroft, as we all do lifestyle.’’ PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE around here, on matters of legislative Further, Mr. Ashcroft said that a per- The PRESIDING OFFICER. The importance. son’s sexual conduct—and I quote clerk will please read a communication Quite frankly, in my dealings with again Mr. Ashcroft’s own words—‘‘is to the Senate from the President pro him, I always found him to be cour- within what could be considered and tempore (Mr. THURMOND). teous to me and my staff. I found that what is eligible for consideration’’ for The legislative clerk read the fol- we could work together even though we ambassadorial nominees. lowing letter: did not have the same views, perhaps, However, in his testimony just 2 U.S. SENATE, on certain pieces of legislation. I found weeks ago, Mr. Ashcroft denied his op- PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE, that we worked together in the spirit position had anything to do with Jim Washington, DC, February 1, 2001. of compromise here on the Senate Hormel’s sexual orientation. He said he To the Senate: floor. opposed him because, again, he had Under the provisions of rule I, paragraph 3, When John Ashcroft’s name was first known Jim Hormel for a long time, of the Standing Rules of the Senate, I hereby announced as the nominee for Attorney going back to the days when Hormel appoint the Honorable MICHAEL D. CRAPO, a Senator from the State of Idaho, to perform General, I, of course, thought to my- had—and I quote again John Ashcroft— the duties of the Chair. self, he certainly would not have been ‘‘recruited him’’ for law school. STROM THURMOND, my first choice, but then again George Mr. Ashcroft said he based his opposi- President pro tempore. Bush was not my first choice for Presi- tion to Jim Hormel being Ambassador ● This ‘‘bullet’’ symbol identifies statements or insertions which are not spoken by a Member of the Senate on the floor. VerDate Aug 31 2005 11:40 Feb 28, 2007 Jkt 029102 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 0686 Sfmt 0634 E:\BR01\S01FE1.000 S01FE1 erjones on PRODPC74 with SENATE 1214 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE February 1, 2001 to Luxembourg on the totality of against then-sitting Gov. Mel istration of voters. During that same Hormel’s record. I spoke with Ambas- Carnahan. Ashcroft on this very floor period of time, the city board trained sador Hormel just last week about this. referred to the distinguished and ac- zero because the city election board, He said he had never had any contact complished judge as ‘‘pro-criminal and appointed by John Ashcroft, refused to with Senator Ashcroft, not when he activist,’’ a man with a ‘‘tremendous follow the policy on volunteers used by was dean of students at the University bent toward criminal activity.’’ his appointed board in the county and of Chicago Law School and not since he Mr. Ashcroft stood on this floor—I throughout the state. The State legis- was nominated in 1997. He did not re- remember listening to him, and I lature saw this anomaly and passed cruit Mr. Ashcroft for law school. As couldn’t believe someone actually said two bills in 1988 and 1989 to require the dean of students, of course—and there this about a sitting State supreme city to do the same as the county and are a lot of students there—Mr. Hormel court justice from his own State—that the state. Governor Ashcroft vetoed was honest; he said: I can’t remember. Judge White had ‘‘a tremendous bent both of those bills. Maybe when he was a student, I might toward criminal activity.’’ I am also troubled by parts of John have met him. I might have talked to I don’t know Ronnie White. I have Ashcroft’s record which reflects poorly him. I might have said something to a met him only once. But after I looked on his commitment to seeking justice group of students. He may have come over his record it seemed to me that for all Americans. Despite his state- into my office for something. But I what Mr. Ashcroft was saying was not ments to the contrary, I am simply not have no recollection of that.