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Mill Valley Oral History Program A collaboration between the Mill Valley Historical Society and the Mill Valley Public Library David Freiberg An Oral History Interview Conducted by Debra Schwartz in 2019 © 2019 by the Mill Valley Public Library TITLE: Oral History of David Freiberg INTERVIEWER: Debra Schwartz DESCRIPTION: Transcript, 47 pages INTERVIEW DATE: January 24, 2019 In this oral history, David Freiberg, a key figure in the Bay Area music scene from the 1960s onward, recounts his life, career, friends, and family. Born in Boston in 1938 and raised in Cincinnati, David moved out to California in 1959 where he first took up playing the guitar. Touching down in Oakland, he moved to San Francisco in the early 1960s and then over to Mill Valley a few years later. David gives a detailed account of his time playing guitar with Quicksilver Messenger Service in the ’60s and subsequently with Jefferson Airplane/Starship beginning in the ’70s. He discusses many of his friends from that legendary milieu — well-known musicians from the Bay Area rock scene like Marty Balin, John Cipollina, and Paul Kantner — and reminisces about what Mill Valley was like in that era. He also discusses his current life with his wife Linda, also a musician, and his relationship with his daughters, Jessica and Polly. 80 years old and actively touring at the time this oral history was conducted, David concludes by offering advice to up-and-coming musicians. © All materials copyright Mill Valley Public Library. Transcript made available for research purposes only. All rights are reserved to the Mill Valley Library. Requests for permission to quote for publication should be addressed to the: Lucretia Little History Room Mill Valley Public Library 375 Throckmorton Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 ii Oral History of David Freiberg Index Balin, Marty…p.2, 12, 27, 29, 41 Brigden, Julia “Girl” (ex-wife)…p.31-32 Cipollina, John…p.18, 22, 23-25 Crosby, David…p.20, 25-26 Deal, Charlie…p.41 Duncan, Gary…p.22, 30 Elmore, Greg…p.22 Freiberg, Albert (father)…p.3 Freiberg, Jessica (daughter)…p.31 Freiberg, Polly (daughter)…p.33 Freiberg, Roslyn Goldman (mother)…p.3 Garcia, Jerry…p.23 Graham, Bill…p.32 Helms, Chet…p.11 Hopkins, Nicky…p.24-25 Imperial, Linda (wife)…p.30 Jefferson Airplane/Starship…p.2, 18, 22, 26-28 Joplin, Janis…p.11-12 Kantner, Paul…p.3, 12, 18, 28 Mexico…p.9-11 Mt. Tam…p.45-46 Murray, Jimmy…p.18, 22, 23 Planet Earth Rock and Roll Orchestra…p.20 Quicksilver Messenger Service…p.2, 20-24, 42 Sears, Pete…p.29 Slick, Grace…p.20, 26, 27 Sonapa Farms…p.39 Valenti, Dino…p.18, 24, 37-38 Village Music…p.39 iii Oral History of David Freiberg January 24, 2019 Editor’s note: The following transcript is based on a recorded interview. It has been edited for clarity and accuracy. 0:00:00 Debra Schwartz: Today is January 24, 2019. 0:00:06 David Freiberg: How did I ever live this long? [laughs] 0:00:08 Debra Schwartz: My name is Debra Schwartz. I’m with the Mill Valley Public Library and the Mill Valley Historical Society, and I’m sitting here with a wonderful, amazing, musical and interesting David Freiberg. Did I say it right? 0:00:25 David Freiberg: Freiberg. Yes, E-I, free mountain. 0:00:29 Debra Schwartz: Is that what it means? 0:00:30 David Freiberg: In German, yeah. 0:00:32 Debra Schwartz: And yes, how did you live this long? Because doing a little pre-research about you, you could have skipped and tripped and fallen any number of ways along the path that brought you to today. 0:00:49 David Freiberg: Sure could have, yeah. A whole pile of my compadres certainly did. 0:00:53 Debra Schwartz: Truly. So, congratulations. You look great. 0:01:00 David Freiberg: Thanks. [laughter] 0:01:00 Debra Schwartz: You really do. I’ve interviewed a lot of musicians, and I’m always sort of surprised at how really great many of them look despite — 0:01:09 David Freiberg: Despite what you think they’ve been through. 0:01:12 Debra Schwartz: Just being on the road. And you’re still performing. 0:01:16 David Freiberg: Yeah. 0:01:16 Debra Schwartz: I mean, that will take a bit out of you. 0:01:19 David Freiberg: I did take 20 years off though. Between 1985 and 2005, I was not on the road, hardly at all. 1 0:01:28 Debra Schwartz: Well, for those of — 0:01:30 David Freiberg: But I think I’m healthy. Actually, I feel like I keep myself healthier if I’m on the road, for some reason. 0:01:38 Debra Schwartz: Interesting. So, I’ve introduced you as a musician, but there’s more to your introduction because you are one of our local musicians who has been a part of the Bay Area music scene, a foundational part of the Bay Area rock music scene. Marty Balin once said he had the best seat in the house for the ’60s. I think you were sitting in the same row with him. 0:02:08 David Freiberg: Yeah, he was kinda almost next to me, maybe a couple of seats away. 0:02:11 Debra Schwartz: A couple of seats away. [laughter] 0:02:14 Debra Schwartz: So, that’s something we can talk about today, the bands that you’ve been in, Quicksilver Messenger Service. I’m a woman of a certain age. I certainly remember your band from back in the day. 0:02:25 David Freiberg: Okay. I would never know that from looking at you but okay. 0:02:28 Debra Schwartz: And looking at me, by the way, I wanna apologize. People that are listening to this can’t see is that I recently had some oral surgery, and the whole right side of my face looks like I’ve been in Fight Club, so I hope that’s not too distracting for you. 0:02:43 David Freiberg: Having people looking at me disapprovingly if I walk down the street with you, right? [laughter] 0:02:51 Debra Schwartz: And you seem such a gentleman. Anyways, sorry about that. But you really have quite an interesting story, truly, and I remember the Quicksilver Messenger Service so well, and of course, the other bands that you’ve been in which are — 0:03:08 David Freiberg: Which are, well, Jefferson Airplane, the last tailspin, and then as it changed into Jefferson Starship. That’s basically been it. Now when I didn’t play is when they dropped the Jefferson. That’s when I left for 20 years. 0:03:27 Debra Schwartz: Mm-hmm. 2 0:03:27 David Freiberg: And then I rejoined after Paul Kantner had restarted Jefferson Starship in 1990 and asked me to sit in once in 2005. And it was fun. 0:03:40 Debra Schwartz: You stayed. 0:03:41 David Freiberg: I never left again. 0:03:43 Debra Schwartz: And you’re still touring. 0:03:43 David Freiberg: And I’m still there, yeah. 0:03:45 Debra Schwartz: Okay, well let’s start with a little contextual information about you yourself, your family. Can you tell me just a little bit about your family history and can you please include names wherever possible? 0:03:58 David Freiberg: Okay. 0:04:00 Debra Schwartz: And when you were born, you know, just background. 0:04:00 David Freiberg: I was born on August 24th, 1938 in Boston, Massachusetts to Roslyn Goldman Freiberg and Albert Freiberg, her husband, who was — let’s see, I guess during the Depression his father was an orthopedic surgeon, a very good, prominent orthopedic surgeon and had plenty of money, so he kept him in Harvard University, I think, during the Depression. He has four of Harvard degrees and ended up being a lawyer, which I’m not sure that he really wanted to be. I thought he hated doing it, which was unfortunate for some people around him. [chuckles] But anyway — and then World War II happened in 1941-42, and he joined the Navy, and my mother, and my brother, and sister, and I moved back to Cincinnati, Ohio, which is where they grew up, and I spent quite a few years there, until I left in 1959 and came to the place that I idolized, which was San Francisco. 0:05:28 Debra Schwartz: You idolized San Francisco? 0:05:30 David Freiberg: Yeah, it was honest. On a family trip, we went through the West with four kids and two adults in the car, kind of like hell on wheels. [chuckles] 0:05:43 Debra Schwartz: I used to go on those family trips. [laughs] One part sightseeing, the rest arguing. 0:05:48 David Freiberg: It was really good. We went to all the national parks and everything, then drove into San Francisco. And as we came around the 101, all of a sudden the fog was just starting to come in ’cause it was summer, and it was just so gorgeous. I said, “I’ve gotta live in this place.” And I never forgot that. 0:06:06 Debra Schwartz: And you were how old? 3 0:06:08 David Freiberg: I might have been in high school, actually. Might have been 15. 0:06:13 Debra Schwartz: Right then and there, you knew.