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2076 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 Congress in declaring that such and such ..-a thing is a petty HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES offense? How is its pettiness determined? How ought it be t1e­ termined? We think the petty offense must be determined by two TUESDAY, JANUARY 13, .1931 , conditions, (1) the ~ature and character of the offense, and (2) The House met at 12 o'clock noon. by the punishment which the conviction of such offense carries. If the violation of a town ordinance that prohibits a man from The Chaplain, Rev. James Shera Montgomery; D. D., crossing a street at a certain point carries with tt a capital punish­ offered the following prayer: ment can that be regarded as a petty offense? Can· the name change the character. of the offense any more than the devoted Direct us, 0 Lord God, to do that which befits us and to young wife awaiting day by day the coming of her first child, do it with cheerfulness and cow·age; thus by high endeavor anxious to give him the name of his father, can change the girl we shall realize our best aspirations. Cleanse _the very baby that arrives to a boy baby by calling him John instead of Sallie? No, it is not the name; it is the character, the nature of thoughts of our hearts, so that obedience to the laws _of the offense that determines, partly at least, whether it be petty truth and justice shall not be just conformity to a healthy, or infamous, but if it 1s found under this rule that a trifling, patriotic devotion to the needs of ow· country. With Thee petty offense in description carries with it later punishment in the penitentiary or jail, or any deprivation of liberty, the offense every weakness.can be made strength and evc;!ry hindrance 1s changed at once from a petty offense to a criminal offense with an inspiration. Thy promises to us are so condescending, the emphasis upon its criminality. In other words, the nature tender, and so merciful. They are as wide as humanity and and character of the offense and the punishment must together as deep as sin and as true as the of the Almighty. the grade of the . offense. Judge Brewer, in Schick v. United States, supra (195 U. S. 68), Verify them U..'>lto us this day in the name of Christ, our well states the doctrine: · Saviour. Amen. "The truth is, the nature of. the offense and the amount of pun­ ishment prescribed rather than its place in the statutes determine The Journal of the proceedings of yesterday was read and whether it is to be classed among serious or petty offenses, whether approved. among crimes or misdemeanors." In this bill the petty offenses are described as those that may be MINORITY VIEWS punished by a fine of $500 or confinement in jail for six months, Mr. TUCKER. ~ifr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to or both. How can such puni&hment in the bill accord with the extend my remarks in the RECORD by printing minority views declaration that these offenses are petty? The boy at the dance, or the girl at the dance, that 1s caught with a thimble of whisky which I submitted from the Committee on. the Judiciary on them may go to jail for six months and be required to pay a involving the doctrine of petty offenses. fine of $500. The farmer who may take a tablespoonful of whisky Mr. RAMSEYER. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to ob­ or brandy to a dying neighbor may be put in jail for six months, serving from April to October, and pay a fine of $500; will he ject, is this the filing of minority views or a request to have rejoice with untold joy as he rests in jail from seedtime to harv~st minority views printed in the RECORD? when told by his counsel not to fret for he was convicted only Mr. TUCKER. This is a request to have this report of a petty offense? To make the punishment under this bill suit­ printed in the RECORD. able to the offenses charged there should be no imprisonment in the punishment; and this 1s mote clearly seen from the fact that Mr. RAMSEYER. Who signs the minority views? these petty offenses, which are recognized by our Government, at Mr. TUCKER. They are signed by me and concurred in law, were tried without a jury because not regarded as by the gentleman from New York [Mr. LAGUARDIA]. crimes; but where the punishment results in imprisonment in the penitentiary or jail under our · American systetll it can not be Mr. RN\ISEYER. Just the twp? claimed the offense 1s petty. Judge Harlan in Schick v. United Mr. TUCKER. Yes. States (195 U. S. 95), states the doctrine finely: Mr. RAMSEYER. I have no objection. "And, perhaps, all will agree that; the constitutional injunction The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of_ the [the trial of all crimes, except cases of impeachment, shall be by jury, Art. III sec. 2] applies with like force to such misdemeanors 1 gentleman from Virginia? as by statute are punishable with imprisonment, and that a cir­ There was no objection. cuit or district court of the United States is without jurisdiction, Mr. TUCKER. Mr. Speaker, under the leave to extend iny under a plea of not guilty, no jury being impaneled, to try any crime against the United States. involving life or liberty. The 1·emarks in the RECORD, I submit the following minority consent Qf tl1e accused in such a case certainly can not confer upon views from the Committee on the Judiciary involving the the court authority to try the crime in a mode inconsistent with doctrine of petty offenses: the one prescribed by the law." · · - How can any offense be deemed petty that may deprive a man [House Report No. 1699, par·t 2, Seventy-first Congress, second of his liberty for six months by imprisonment in jail, even a com­ session] · mon jail? No time in jail is needed to make the offense infamous, TO A.J."vlEND SECTION 541 OF THE UNITED- STATES CODE for the clank of the jail door as it-clo3es upon him is enough to Mr. TucKER, from the Committee on the Judiciary; submitted make a man of right feeling realize that such an offense means the following minority views (to accompany H. R. 10341): infamy. The nature of the offense and the punishment provided must be properly correlated; there is a natural interdependence {Omit matter within brackets and insert the part printed in italic] between the two that can not be disregarded. To the ordinary man A bill to amend section 541 of the United States Code, being sec- there is nothing small (petty) about- a fine of $500, nor can he tion 335 of the Criminal Code be deprived of his liberty for 6 months and ·be consoled by the "Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of assurance that if his offense had not been "petty" he might have the United States of America in Congress assembled, That section had 12 months in the penitentiary. No "petty o!Iense" should be [541 of the United States Code, being section] 335 of the Criminal punished by imprisonment. Code [(M?trch 4, 1909], chapter 321, paragraph 335; thirty-fifth HENRY ST. GEORGE TUCKER. Statutes, page 1152 [) ], (sec. 541, title 18, U. S. C.) be amended I concur in above conclusions. to read as follows: F. H. LAGUARDIA. " 'All offenses which may be punished by death or imprisonment ORDER OF BUSINES3 for a term exceeding one year shall be deemed felonies. All other offenses shall be deemed misdemeanors: Provided, That-all offenses Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I -would like an opportunity, [not involving moral turpitude,] the penalty for which -does not if I may, to query the g·entleman from Connecticut [Mr. exceed confinement in a common jail, without hard labor for a period of six months, or a fine of not more than $500, or both, TILsoN] concerning a report in the newspaper this morning, shall be deemed to be petty offenses; and all such petty offenses and in order that I may be accurate I will read_it: may be prosecuted [before the United States commissioner, as After a day of long, heated debate, Republican Leader TILSON may now or hereafter be provided by law,] upon information. or charged, off the floor, that the Democrats were conducting an complaint.' - adroit filibuster, cleverly concealed, against the bill. "Amend the title so as to read: 'A bill to amend section 355 of the Criminal Code'." Now, Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the gentleman if he mada The object of this bill is most , to relieve the that statement. burden upon the district courts of the United States in the trial of petty offenses under the prohibition law upon information or Mr. TILSON. Oh, I may have made some such remark complaint. To relieve the court of these burdens and the intrica­ in the con-idors of the Capitol somewhere. I do not recall cies involved, of indictments, grand juries, etc., is much to be now. desired, and I heartily agree with tile obj~ct of the bill. Mr. GARNER. Well, was. there any basis of fact for The defect in the bill, to my mind, is its definition of a petty offense. Surely to the ordinary man or woman in the country a that statement? fine oi $500 and · imprisonment in jail for 6 months . can not be Mr. TILSON. I thought the -filibuster was rather cleve1·Iy regarded as "petty,'' and this may be the punishment under. this conducted. [Laughter.] bill for one who sells a drink or transports it to a friend. • What constitutes ·a petty offense? Is it 'determined entirely by Mr. GARNER. , Mr. Speaker ~ I do not think it is fair to the nature of the offense? Is it dependent alone upon the act of this side of the House, and I do not think there is a single 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2077 - Member on tha side of the House who believes it is farr, for Mr. BUSBY. They do not any statement of the the majority leader to give an interview to the Associated kind sent out yesterday by the majority leader, the gentle­ Press to the effect that there was a concealed filibuster in man from Connecticut. the Honse of Representatives on yesterday by the Demo­ DISBURSEMENTS FOR VETERANS AND THEIR DEPENDENTS FISCAL cratic organization. YEAR 1930 Mr. TILSON. Oh, I gave no interview. Mr. GARNER. Or by any Democrat. I want the gentle­ Mr. CLARKE of New York. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous man from Connecticut to name the Democrats that con­ consent to insert in the RECORD a copy of a letter from Gen­ ducted a filibuster on yesterday. If I recall correctly, Mr. eral Hines, Administrator of Veterans' Affairs, addressed to Speaker, and I have been here quite a little while, there were me, containing useful and instructive information. two Democrats who took a prominent part yesterday. One Mr. CRAMTON. Will the gentleman yield? of them was the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. BusBY], Mr. CLARKE of New York. Certainly. who, I think, was conducting a conscientious opposition to Mr. CRAMTON. Does the letter give any explanation of the bill and I could not see a thing in the nature of a fili­ the tremendous and unprecedented delays that are now buster; and the other was my colleague from Texas [1.\tlr. occurring in all branches of the former Bureau of Pensions? LANHAM], who was doing his best to promote the passage of Mr. CLARKE of New York. Unfortunately, not; but it that bill. does give information regarding expenditures for the last Mr. TILSON. I thoroughly agree with the last statement. year in the Veterans~ Bureau and the Pension Bureau in Mr. GARNER. Outside of these two gentlemen I do not detailed form such as I think the Members have never had know anything about any kind of attempt to take up the before. · \.._ time of the House. If it constitutes a filibuster for the gen­ Mr. CRAMTON. Some of us would be very much inter- tleman from Mississippi [Mr. BusBY] to oppose the bill as ested in finding out what the real reason is for delay. he did yesterday, or if it constitutes a filibuster for the gen­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection? tleman from Texas [Mr. LANHAM] to try to promote the There was no objection. legislation, then we certainly had a filibu;ter; otherwise, I Mr. CLARKE of New York. Mr. Speaker, under t..ne say the statement had not any basis in fact, in my opinion. leave to extend my remarks in the REcoRD, I include the Mr. TILSON. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will refresh fallowing letter received by me from General Hines, Admin­ his memory, or if he will look at the RECORD this morning, istrator of Veterans' Affairs: although I have not examined it, I am sure be will find that JANUARY 12, 1931. the point of no quorum was made over and over again by a Hon. JoHN D. CLARKE, gentleman on his side when, upon a count by the Chair, it House of Representatives, Washington, D. 0. DEAR Sm: In reply to your letter of January 2, 1931, requesting was proved there was no ground whatever for making such . information regarding disbursements made by the United States point. Is not this the fact? Government for soldiers, dependents, care, hospitalization, etc., Mr. GARNER. That was not made against this bill. you are advised that the disbursements made during the fiscal That was made by one individual on this side of the House year 1930 are as follows: because the gentleman refused him consent to address the 1. Disbursements made by the United States Vet­ erans' Bureau: House. Compensation ______$199,229,268.09 Mr. TILSON. It was made while this bill was pending. Insurance-- Mr. BUSBY. I would like to say to the gentleman from Term ______122,768,89~.2a Connecticut [Mr. TILsoN], since I took a prominent part in United States Government life (paid offering reasons why changes should be made in the bill, from premiums received from ex-serv­ iceinen)------24,677,347.60 that the. whip on the Republican side of the House, the gen­ Adjusted-service certificates (matured by tleman from LMr. VESTAL], the chairman of the death of veterans)------20,131,368.75 committee who had charge of the bill, kept the Republicans Adjusted service and dependent pay------3, 130, 214. 35 Medical and hospital services______32, 185, 206.37 on the floor all the time by telephoning their offices, and I Hospital facilities and services ( construc- made no attempt at all to keep the Democrats on the floor, tion) ____ : ______~-- _ 8,241,384.73 and no Democrat, so far as I know, but myself, who was Administrative (includes printing and bind- ing) ______.:.______41, 739, 29.5. 59 opposing the bill took any part in it. I think it is a rank injustice to me to make this allegation Miscellaneous ------47, o42. 47 and send it out through the Associated Press, and I want to Total------~52, 150, 622:. 17 assure the gentleman there is no foundation of fact or sem­ The above disbursements are for the administration and reliet' blance of foundation of faet for any sueh statement by the of the ex-service men of the World War, with the exception of majority leader. the hospitalization of veterans of other wars as in section 202, paragraph 10, of the World War veterans' act. Mr. TILSON. If the gentleman will yield a moment, I had 2. Disbursements made by the Pension Bureau for no idea of impugning the gentleman's motives in his oppo­ soldiers: sition to the bill; but his own statement now to the effect Administrative------..:.~ $1, 272, 203. 23 that the whip on the Republican side had to busy himself Medical examinations______328, 502. 10 all day to keep the Republican Members on the floor in Field investigations______143,187.66 Pensions for veterans a.nd dependents of Civil order to maintain a quorum proves my contention. The War a.nd Spanish-American War ______209,535,654.67 gentleman himself admits that he made no eiiort whatever All other wars, including Regular Establish­ to keep the minority Members here to do their part in fur­ rnent------9,667,886.1& nishing a quorum. Mr. BUSBY. That is no admission at all. Total------220,947,433.81 Mr. TILSON. It is an important admission. In addition to the disbursements made· by the United States Veterans' Bureau for medical and hospital services and hospital Mr. BUSBY. The trouble about it is, this bill was rammed facilities, the following has been disbursed by the Bureau of Na­ through yesterday by propaganda without rhyme or reason, tional Homes for the care and hospitalization of veterans: and that is the only thing there is to it. Operation and maintenance ______$10, 790, 974. 14 Mr. LAGUARDIA. If the gentleman will permit, there was Construction------1,600,021.56 as much propaganda from the slot-machine people and the AJd to States------524,728.00 mechanical-reproduction people as from any other source. Total------12,915,723.7~ Mr. BUSBY. I have only asked for appropriate time on Very truly yours., that or any other measure to present proper amendments for FRANK T. HINEs, Administrator. the consideration of the House, and there was no action of mine yesterday that suggested a filibuster. ADDRESS BY HON. SAMUEL B. PETTENGILL, OF INDIANA Mr. TILSON. I think the facts in regard to the presence Mr. BYRNS. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to of a quorum alone fully justify all that I said. [Applause.] extend my remarks by printing in the RECORD a radio ad- 2078 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 dress delivered by Hon. Samuel B. Pettengill, a Member is only because the Republican Party has become the party of elect from the State of Indiana, on the 6th of October last. privilege that there is a real need for a party which is true to the traditions of the founders of both. Lincoln said: "I stand with The SPEAKER. Is there objection? anybody that. stands right. I stand with him while he is right, There was no objection. and I part With him when he goes wrong." It is the one great The address is as follows: benefit of the 2-party system in this country that when one party has ceased to stand for the general welfare the independent mem­ WHERE WOULD LINCOLN STAND TO-DAY? bers of that party are not helpless, but have it in their power to We wage this contest wit hout for the average man and pu~ an end to that misrepresentation by turning to the opposition. the average woman living in the average American home. The It IS the independent voter, not the extreme partisan, for whose time has come to again consider the case of the average man, the suffrage all political campaigns are waged. It is he or she who producer of property, rather than property itself. As Lincoln said really controls the destiny of this Nation. And I regard it as a in 1859, "We are for both the man and the dollar; but in case of good omen in the sky that more and more men and women refuse conflict the man before the dollar." Both should be treated to worship a label, but stand for men and principles. I regard fairly, but there must be a just balance struck between them. We that tendency as due in large part to the extension of suffrage submit that during the past decade the Government at Washing- . to women. They are individualists. They refuse to stand hitched. ton has been more concerned with the rights of property than To that extent it is in their power to supply the vital, purifying wit h the rights of man; too much dominated by the North Atlan­ agency behind government. tic seaboard, too little concerned with the dwellers beyond the When the Republican Party was first organized in 1856 'it was Alleghenies. composed in large part of free-soil Democrat&-men who left their There is here no slightest hostility to wealth, honestly acqUired. party because they believed it had become dominated by an It is, in fact, in defense of property that I speak, for property is oligarchy committed to the extension of slavery. saf~ only when sufficient goes · into the wage envelope and the The battle cry of the Republican Party in its first campaign farmer's wallet to buy the products of field and factory. The was " Free land, free men, and Fremont." It took its name "Re­ gteatest good for all is the greatest good for one. publican " from the name by which the Democratic Party was A political campaign, my friends, is in the nature of a joint known when Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe won their great debate. In fact, it would be a great thing for politics if it were victories. One of its distinguished founders said at the time: actually a joint debate, the opposing spokesman appearing on the "There is not a plank in our platform which does not conform same platform at the same time before the same audience. It to the principles of Jefferson, the man who, of all others, has ever would be an enormous gain, if we could somehow deflate politics, been !egarded as the true representative of the Republican Party it we could bring the bubbles of bunk in contact with the sharp of this country. ~ • • We stand, sir, upon his doctrines and point of an honest question that must be answered then and there we fight for his principles. We are coming to take possession of in front of the audience. The greatest individual contest for a. this Government, to administer it for tl1e whole country, and seat in Congress in American history was the Lincoln-Douglas joint shall suff~r monopolists neither of the North or South to control debate of 1858. In the few weeks it lasted it did more to clarify its administration and so shape its action as to subserve the inter­ the mind of America upon the great issue of slavery than the mil­ ests of the aristocratic few." lions of words which had been said previously. If politicians This clear statement of Democratic principles made by a Repub· were more interested in clarifying t11e thought of the public than lican in 1856 was sufficient justification for thous:mds of Demo­ in obscuring it they would welcome the joint debate to-day. crats to leave their party and join the party of Lincoln. It is a The last great liberal movement in America began, my friends, platform upon which sound Democrats and sound Republicans can as a protest against the Payne-Aldrich tariff of 1908 and carried both stand to-day, as they both stood then. It is the platform through Wilson's first term. Then the attention of the Nation upon which I stand. was diverted from domestic problems to the Armageddon overseas. In public utterances Lincoln often extolled the principles of At the end of the war we were weary of fighting either with swords Jefferson. His immortal Gettysburg Address 1s shot through with or with pens. The American impulse was to find a job, liquidate the living fire of democracy. When he breathed the hope that bur debts, salvage the war. All that the Republican national "these dead shall not have died in vain," and that "government administration offered was a return to normalcy. It was a do­ of the people, for the people, and by the people shall not perish nothing decade. from the earth," he was simply restating in different words Jef­ Periodically a few promises were made, and periodically they ferson's preamble of the Declaration of Independence. The prin­ went to political protest. Meantime, while the antitrust laws were ciples for which Lincoln lived and died are essentially the same gathering dust, enormous combinations, mergers, and chains were as those for which Jefferson and his fellow patriots in their day enveloping America. Immense fortunes were made; wealth con­ were glad to pledge " their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred centrated in the hands of the few. The farmers were told to honor." speak with a "small vo'ice," and the wage earners, largely stimu­ Only a year before Lincoln's , April 6, 1859, he said: lated by the tremendous expansion of the automobile industry, "Soberly, it is now no child's play to save the principles of were swept along in the parade. Billions of credit were placed Jefferson from total overthrow in this Nation. The principles of at the disposal.of speculators and the bulls went to market. Jefferson are the definitions and axioms of free society. And yet Warning voices were raised, but they were scoffed at in the they are denied and evaded, with no small show of success. One highest places. The band played on. The party ·in power, drunk calls them ' glittering generalities.' Another bluntly calls them with self-esteem. promised an unending prosperity. Finally the ' self_-evident lies.' • • * These expressions, differing in form, eras}} came. We awoke from our dream. We awoke and found are Iden~ical in object and effect--the supplanting of the prin­ that nothing had been done by the party responsible for the ciples of free government and restoring those of classification and Government to let the air from the bubble until it had burst in caste. • • • They are the vanguard, the miners and sappers ruin over countless thousands of homes. We found that while _of returning despotism. .We must repulse them or they will the bulls were going to market the cows were going dry. subjugate us." We are once more face to face with reality. We are at the be­ To-day, as in 1859, it is no "child's play to save the principles ginning of a new decade. The forces of liberalism are once more of Jefferson from total overthrow." These principle3 still remain at work. We are asking the Grand Old Party to tell us where is the definitions and axioms of free society, but who among Repub· the full dinner pail. We are asking if Senator WATSON's tariff Ucan leaders is trying to administer government "for the whole speech, which he wrote 20 years ago, is applicable to the new country"? Who, now, among Republican leaders 1s struggling position America now finds herself in as a great creditor and against "monopoly"? Who is battling to save Government from exporting nation. We are asking, finally, what the party in power "subservience to the interests of the aristocratic few"? Only a proposes to do for the average man. few insurgents out here in the West whose republicanism is now National and international readjustments are going to be made challenged, with unconscious irony, by the henchment of privilege. in the next decade, in the next quarter century, to keep pace with The Republican leaders are heretics. They have forsworn the faith our industrial development. There are in ·the making new pro­ of the fathers. grams with which to direct this age of machinery. We must What are some of the principles of Jefferson which Lincoln held restore the American farm; stabilize prosperity; prevent unemploy­ are the axioms of a free s9ciety? ment by developing world trade; rebuild purchasing power on First, a government that shall "restrain men from injuring one farm and factory; and we must do all these things, not in terms another" but "leave them otherwise free to regulate their pursuits of party advantage foJ: party's sake, but in terms of our entire of industry and shall not talce from the mouth of labor the breed destiny as a nation. that it has earned." Until 1776 Jefferson had seen that man had I would like to spend this evening talking things over with my been the victim of government in every country in the world. He Republican friends. I speak to those countless thousands of men thought that one of the best things that government could do and women who never expect to get, or desire to have, the spoils was to get off men's backs. He foresaw the wonderful develop· of office, but whose prime interest is and always will be in parties ment of this country, its railroads, telegraph, telephone, automo­ only as instrumentalities for promoting the common welfare. biles, electrical machinery, labor-saving devices, its researches of With them a political party is_ only a means to an end-not the science, its discoveries in the field of medicine, its art and archi­ end itself. These men and women I think of as Lincoln Republi­ tecture, all that has built our civilization, and knew that they cans. With them principles are more important than labels, and could spring only from the initiative of the individual, not from country more precious than party. the guidance of bureaucrats. I should like to demonstrate to. them, if I can, that their prin­ Second, "I believe," he said, "that the States can best govern ciples are essentially the same as mine. To them I address this over home concerns and the General Government over foreign question: Where would Lincoln stand to-day? It is time--high ones. I wish, therefore, to see maintained that wholesome dis­ time--that Republicans by principle and Democrat s by conviction tribution of power established by the Constitution for the limita· got together and made common cause against the common foe. tion of both, and never see all offices transported to Washington." If the Republican Party had remained true to the teachings of St.ate rights. not on account of jealous regard for the State as its founders, there would be little need of a. Democratic Party. It such, but because the States can "best govern." This sentiment 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2079 -was reechoed only the other day by the Chief Justice of the I propose, my friends, Democrat and Republican, to make this United States Supreme Court. As our civ111za.tion grows in com­ campaign upon the fundamental principles which actuated the plexity it has become and will no doubt continue to become neces­ lives of the founders of both great parties. Whether you turn to sary to add to the powers of the General Government. The Inter­ Jefferson's first inaugural or to Lincoln's words at Gettysburg; state Commerce Commission, to fix the freight and passenger rates whether you call it " old fashioned democracy " or " old fashioned of interstate commerce, and the Federal Radio Board are examples. republicanism " is a matter of no importance to me. As Edmund But, except in matters that pertain to the effective functioi?-ing Burke once said to the British Parliament, "I shall place my feet of the National Government itself, such as the power to tax, 1t is in the tracks of my forefathers where I can neither wander nor my firm judgment that the expansion of Federal power should fall." These truths are old, but so is the Sermon on the Mount. proceed on the general principle that it should supplement the "Equal rights for all, special privileges for none." What is tha.t rights and powers of the States. not supersede or supplant them. but the application in the field of government and politics of the Whenever we depart from this principle we depart from the path words of the Galilean, " Do unto others as ye would that they of good government. As far as is humanly possible government should do unto you." These words seem sometimes threadbare. should be close to those governed. Anyone who has ever had oc­ I hope they will always be so-threadbare because they are in dally casion to take up a tax matter with his township assessor and has use; because neither men nor nations can live without them. also had to cross half the continent to take up an income-tax I submit to your candid consideration, therefore, my Republican question with an unknown clerk at Washington, will appreciate friends, that the crowd which now dictates the policies at Wash­ the real value of maintaining that "wholesome distribution of ington are not the followers of Lincoln. They are the political power" which Jefferson speaks of. heirs of Alexander Hamilton. Hamilton boldly, and I suppose As patriotism (that is, the false claim of patriotism) is the honestly, stood for government by the few and for the few. "last refuge of a scoundrel," so, using Lincoln's great name as a Fearful of the people, he would place the reins in the hands of shibboleth, and in the shadows cast by his gigantic figure, the the moneyed: classes alone. He held that government must be in forces of privilege are at work. From Lincoln to the dis­ "strong bands," to use his words. He was the Andrew Mellon of tance is as great as that between a "certain rich man" and Laza­ his day. He spoke of the people as "a great beast.'' What kind rus in the bosom of Abraham. Between them " there is a great of a beast he did not say. Possibly the of New Hampshire gulf fixed." But when one goes from the grave at Monticello to knew-he speaks of us out here in the West as "wild jackasses.'' the shrine at it is as if one were visiting the same Lincoln believed in the common people, and said that "God must God's acre where all his forebears sleep. · be very fond of them, for He made so many of them.'' On the When the high tide of the Confederacy broke against the guns other hand Hamilton believed that every effort of workingmen to of Gettysbmg and Lincoln knew that the Emancipation Proclama­ improve their condition should be prosecuted as criminal con­ tion was soon to be made good, did he think that the struggle for spiracy. Hamilton would make manufacturing the chief end of free government would end with the liberation of the slave? No. domestic policy. He had little sympathy for the man on the farm. In a letter written a short time before his assassination he said: He would not have believed in placing agriculture on an economic " I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me equality with industry. He was opposed to popular suffrage. He and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a would permit only men of wealth to vote on election day. He result of the war corporations have been enthroned and an era did not believe that "governments derive their just powers from of corruption in high places will follow. The money power of the the consent of the governed.'' He would have repudiated Lin­ country wm endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the coln's burning words that no man is wise enough or good enough prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few to govern another man without that man's consent. Hamilton hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more stood for the State. Lincoln stood for the man. Hamilton stood anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in for power. Lincoln stood for liberty. Hamilton believed in kings. the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove He would have placed a crown on the head of Washington. If his groundless." ideas had prevailed, the present incumbent of the White House Has his prophecy come true? "Corporations enthroned." Con­ would be King Herbert the First-possibly the last. sider Grundy. "Corruption in government." It is not necessary Hamilton was the foe of Jefferson; Lincoln was the follower of to do more than mention it. "Wealth concentrated in the hands Jefferson. Hamilton was an aristocrat. Lincoln was a democl!at of the few." Turn to page 166 of the last World's Almanac and in the noblest sense of that great word. The Republican Party count the number of men in America who report incomes in excess of to-day is republican in name only. It is the party of Hamil­ of a mill1on dollars a year. A generation ago a man whose estate ton; it is not the party of Lincoln. had a gross of a million dollars was something of a phe­ My friends, we are all of us members of the same crew, on the nomenon. To-day we have at least 600 men whose incomes each same ship, sailing the same short voyage. And we of the Demo­ year are a million or more dollars. And then there are super­ cratic faith hold that every man and every woman and every little millionaires. The other day we read the statement of Mr. Gerard child is entitled to his chance at happiness; to a few brief hours that 64 men control this Nation of 120,000,000 human beings. in the sun. Jefferson and Lincoln believed that every huma.n As another leaf in the wind I call your attention to an article soul is " very dear to God," and in the pursuit of happiness, stands on Presidential Prosperity in Harpers Magazine for August. equal, not only before the law, but before the lawmaker. They The author points out how the Government at Washington blew believed that the log cabin is the equal of the palace. They be­ the bubble of stock-market speculation to the bursting point. lieved that the humblest man has an equal right with every other Over and over again he gives the dates and quotes the words of man to choose his governors, to have an equal voice in determin­ Mr. Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury, for the infiation of paper ing the conditions of life in which he shall toil for his daily values. Whenever doubt was expressed that the orgy of specula­ bread. tion had gone too far, that it was time to reef sail, Mr. Mellon They had not seen, and at the end of the World War we have would issue a statement that the foundations of business were not yet seen the muse of history point to a single nation that has sound, that interest rates would remain low, that brokers' loans long endured the enormous concentration of wealth and power were not too high. Even the silent man in the White House found in a few hands as the result of the favors of the Government. his tongue and became articulate when it seemed necessary to give They held, and we hold, that the democratic State, which stands a boost to the bulls. I quote a few sentences from the article: on a broad base like the pyramids, not on the apex of a favored "The trouble with Mr. Mellon has been that he was a stock­ class, is the only State where either property or man can hope to market-minded financier and not a statesman. • • • The be safe. We protest, therefore, against the purchase of legislation Chief Executive had voluntarily assumed the job of acting as with campaign contributions. We object to placing government wet nurse to a wild and unjustifiable speculation and had led the upon the auction block. American people to take colossal risks." And then we see this And so to-night I ask you this question: Where would Lincoln, sentence: " In a few months of the great bull market the Mellon the son of the prairies, the child of , the lad of Indiana, family was reported by the New York Times to have made and the ta!l, gaunt man of Illinois--where would Lincoln stand $300,000,000 by the rise in price of two of their stocks alone "­ to-day? · Aluminum and Gulf Oils. Let me remind you once more of his words, " I stand My friends, I submit to you that it is a prostitution of govern­ with anybody that stands right. I stand with him while he is ment for the Secretary of the Treasury, or the President, to use right, and I part with him when he goes wrong." the prestige of his great office to blow the bubbles of stock specu­ lation and thus lead thousands of innocent people directly to LEAVE OF ABSENCE their destruction, and indirectly, through the losses incurred, throw a wet blanket over the whole area of business and industry. We Mr. MOORE of Virginia. · Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous never saw such concern in Washington when farm values out here consent for leave of absence for my colleague [Mr. BLAND], in the West were vanishing by the billions. No reassuring c;tate­ ments came from the White House at that time. I submit that on account of illness. it is not the business of Washington to be a tipster's bureau for The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the stock gamblers. So much for Lincoln's prophecy of the concentration of wealth gentleman from Virginia? and privilege seizing the reins of government. Where would he There was no objection. stand to-day if alive? Would he be with Grundy telling the Mr. CROSSER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent American Congress that "the special interests I represent con­ tributed so much to the last campaign fund I am here to collect for leave of absence of the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. UNDER­ the consideration," or would he be out on the stump speaking in wooD J, on account of illness in his family. behalf of the farmer, the wage earner, and the business man, who The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the having faith in the promises made in his name, have heretofore voted the Republican ticket? As he abandoned the Whig Pa.rt;y in gentleman from Ohio? 1856, would he not repudiate Republican leadership to-day? There was no objection. 2080 CONGRE-SSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 The SPEAKER. The Chair desires to state to gentlemen (d) Dental treatment and prosthetic appliances authorized to that the proper way to ask leave of absence is by filing the persons eligible to hospitalization on out-patient basis. SEc. 205. Service connection shall not be broken after the death written application at the desk. The Chair prefers that of a veteran. method. SEc. 301. (a) Extension authorized for 5-year convertible Gov­ VETERANS' RELIEF ernment term insurance policies. (b) Extension of conversion date of war risk insurance policies Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to from July 2, 1927, to July 2, 1932. extend my remarks in the RECORD on the subject of the SEc. 304. Reinstatement of Government life insurance permitted veterans' relief, and to insert an analysis of the bills for any veteran suffering from service-connected disabilities who is veterans' relief made by the American Legion. not permanently and totally disabled. SEc. 305. Revival of insw·ance permitted beneficiaries who have The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the become permanently and totally disabled subsequent to July 2, gentleman from Mississippi? 1927, on the same basis as those who became permanently and There was no objection. totally disabled prior to that date: · Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Speaker, at the request of the Ameri­ SEc. 312. Substandard insurance policies provided for disabled veterans where not permanently and totally disabled. can Legion, and with the consent of the House, I am insert­ SEc. 500. (a) Where the recovery under an insurance suit is ing below the Legion's analysis of the veterans' bill now $5,000 or less the attorney for the successful party may be awarded pending before the Committee on World War Veterans' Af­ a fee of 15 per cent. (b) In an appeal on an insurance sUit an additional 5 per cent fairs, and known as H. R. 15621, which was introduced by may be allowed for legal services on behalf of the platnt11I. the chairman of the committee at the Legion's request. (c) Insurance judgments shall allow 6 per cent on payments I am particularly interested in subdivisions (c) and (e) of in arrears. section 200, as outlined in this analysis, for the reason that (d) In a successful insurance suit the costs shall be assessed they are among the chief provisions of my own bill, H. R. against the Government. 15431, which I have introduced to try to correct some of the THE COPYRIGHT LAW injustices of the bill hastily passed by the House last year. The SPEAKER. When the House adjourned yesterday That bill placed the World War veterans on a much lower the previous question was ordered on the House bill 12549. scale of pay than that accorded veterans of other wars with Separate votes had been asked on two amendments. The similar disabilities and left the widows and orphans out other amendments were agreed to. The Clerk will report entirely. These injustices should be corrected without delay. the first amendment. The American Legion's analysis of H. R. 15621, which is based upon resolutions adopted at the convention The Clerk read as follows: last October, is as follows: Substitute amendment offered by Mr. BusBY: Page 3, line 23, after the word" purposes," strike out the period and insert a co~on SEc. 5. (a) Prevents the Director of the Veterans' Bureau from and the following words: " Provided, The reproduction or rendition denying home treatment to a d1sabled veteran who leaves a hos­ of a musical composition by or upon a coin-operated machine, or on pital against medical advice. parts of instruments serving to reproduce mechanically the mu­ (b) Requires the director to rotate the members of the bureau's sical work, shall not be deemed a public performance for profit rating boards . . unless a fee is charged for admission to the place where such SEc. 19. (a) Allows court action on insurance claims based upon reproduction or rendition occurs." uncollected compensation at the time of the veteran's death or t(ftal permanent disab111ty. The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the (b) Privilege of court action on insurance granted where direc­ amendment. tor fails or refuses to act upon a claim within six months. (c) Authority granted to confess judgment in insurance suits The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by which the Government does not believe can be successfully Mr. STAFFORD) there were--45 ayes and 115 noes. defended. Mr. BUSBY. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the SEc. 30. Permits the attorney of a veteran to have access to Government records concerning his client's insw·ance suit. ground that there is no quorum present. SEc. 200. (a) Restoration of conclusive presumption of sound­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman makes the point that no ness and presumption of service connection for insurance pur­ quorum is present. The Chair will count. [After counting.] poses as well as for compensation. (b) Chronic and constitutional diseases presumed of service Two hundred and fifty-five Members present, a quorum. origin where developing prior to January 1, 1925. _ Mr. BUSBY. Mr. Speaker, I ask for the yeas and nays. (c) World War disability pension rates increased to Spanish­ The question of ordering the yeas and nays was taken; American War rates. 15 Members rose, not a sufficient number, and the yeas and (d) Provision made for apportionment of disability allowance where veteran is living apart from his dependents. nays were refused. (e) . Pensions provided World War widows and orphans on same So the amendment was rejected. basis as now are provided for the widows and orphans of Spanish­ The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the next amend­ American War veterans. ment. (f) Permanent total ratings for insurance purposes shall be used for disability allowance purposes without further medical ex­ The Clerk read as follows: amination. Page 4, end of the amendment, after the word following line SEc. 201. (Subdivision 2)-Compensation payments shall be re­ 13, insert the following: " It shall be unlawful for any copyright sumed to a widow whose subsequent marriage has been dissolved · owner to contract, combine, or conspire with any other copyright by either death or divorce, not the result of her own misconduct. owner or owners, either directly or through any agent or agents, to SEc. 201. (Subdivision 6)-Tlme limit extended to July 2, 1941, fix a price or royalty rate for the use of any copyrighted work in which a marriage may occur and make the widow eligible to upon parts of instruments serving to reproduce the same mechani­ compensation if otherwise entitled to it. cally, and any such act shall be a complete defense to any suit, SEc. 202 (subdivision 1). Dependency of parents presumed to action, or proceeding for any infringement of any copyright ot exist at age of 60. such copyright owner." SEc. 202 (subdivision 3). The same dependency allowances pro­ vided for permanently disabled veterans as now paid temporarily The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the disabled veterans. amendment. SEc. 202 (subdivision 4). Payments under the disability rating schedule made effective as of June 7, 1924 {date of enactment), The question was taken, and the amendment was rejected. instead of January 1, 1926. The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, SEc. 202 (subdivision 7). (a) Requiring the director to revert and was read the third time. back to the general counsel's decisions in cases of statutory awards for arrested tuberculosis instead of accepting the Comptroller Mr. BUSBY. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. General's reversals of these. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. (b) Temporary total disability rating granted for active tuber­ Mr. BUSBY. I would like to inquire in regard to the culosis. SEc. 202 (subdivision 10). (a) Veterans suffering from dis­ status of the bill. The gentleman from Indiana spoke of an abilities which have not been connected with service, to use the amendment he proposed to change the effective date of the bureau's out-patient facilities. bill from July to June. I would like to know if that amend­ (b) Hospitalization of sick and disabled veterans is made man­ ment has been adopted? datory upon the director, regardless of the service connection of the disability. Mr. CHINDBLOM. Let me suggest that there could be (c) Hospital allowances provided for the dependents of vet­ unanimous consent to instruct the ,engrossing clerk to make erans, regardless of the service connection of the disability. that change. There are many features of legislation in the 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2081 bill with which I am not in accord, but I am willing to get of the House. Under the provisions of this rule after it is the bill in the shape that the gentleman wants it. agreed to if anybody desires to instruct the conferees he has Mr. VESTAL. Through inadvertence in offering the the right to do it. This is the direct, usual, and natural way amendment the word " July " instead of " June " was used. of sending a bill to conference when you can not do it by I ask unanimous consent that the effective date may be unanimous consent. Does the gentleman from New York de­ June instead of July. sire any time? The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indiana asks unan­ Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. I would like to have 20 imous consent to change the date from July to June. Is minutes. there objection? Mr. SNELL. I yield 20 minutes to the gentleman from :Mr. BUSBY. Under the circumstances I object. New York [Mr. O'CoNNoR]. Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to re- Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Mr. Speaker, I yield five commit. minutes to the gentleman from Texas [Mr. GARNER]. The SPEAKER. Is the gentleman opposed to the bill? Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the Mr. STAFFORD. Most assuredly. House, I asked for these five minutes in order to make a The Clerk read as follows: suggestion to the gentleman from New York [Mr. O'CoNNOR] Mr. STAFFORD moves to recommit the bill to the Committee on and Members on this side of the House as well as on the Patents with instructions to report the same back to the House Republican side. I favor this rule. I would like to see the forthwith with the following amendment: bill sent to conference, but I would like to have the House Strike out all of section 12 down to the proviso on page 13, line 1, and insert in lieu thereof the following: granted the privilege of considering the Senate amendment. " The term for which copyright is secured by this act shall The only object I have is to call attention to the fact that be for the life of the author, and if he dies within 50 years from we can send this bill to conference within the hour or at the date of completion of the creation of the work, then there­ after for a period of time equal to a term of 50 years from said least within two hours, at the latest, if we be permitted to date of completion, except that where the author is not an indi­ consider the Senate amendment and permit the House an vidual the term shall be 50 years from the date of the completion opportunity to express itself thereon. of the creation of the work; and except that in case of a work by Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? joint authors the copyright shall terminate at the date of the death of the joint author who dies first, unless he shall die within Mr. GARNER. Yes. 50 years from the date of the completion of the creation of the Mr. SNELL. Is there not a definite opportunity for the work, in which event it is to terminate upon the expiration of House to express its opinion on the Senate amendment by a 60 years from said date of completion of the creation of the motion to instruct the conferees? work." Mr. GARNER. Certainly not. One Member alone has Mr. VESTAL. Mr. Speaker, on that I move the previous the privilege of making a motion to instruct the conferees. question. There are 50 men on the floor of this House-- The previous question was ordered. Mr. SNELL. Oh, the gentleman wants 50 motions made The SPEAKER. The question is on the motion to re­ to instruct, does he? commit. Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I ask not to be interrupted The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by in that way. Mr. STAFFORD) there were-ayes 26, noes 165. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Texas has been So the motion to recommit was rejected. recognized and has the floor. The SPEAKER. The question is, Shall the bill pass? Mr. GARNER. There are 50 men on the floor of this The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by House who would like to amend the Senate amendment, or Mr. STAFFORD) there were-ayes 185, noes 34. concur in it, and you can not do that by a motion to instruct So the bill was passed. the conferees. . On motion of Mr. VESTAL, the motion to reconsider the If you will vote down the previous question and amend the vote by which the bill was passed was laid on the table. rule, provide that the House have the right and privilege of Mr. VESTAL. Mr. Speaker, I offer the following motion considering the Senate amendment, then you would do the to amend the title, which I send to the desk and ask to have intelligent thing. You would not have a gag rule. It would read. no longer be a gag rule. It would be an orderly procedure The Clerk read as follows: in which you would send the bill to conference with an Amend the title by striking out the words "International Copy­ opportunity on the part of the House to express itself upon right Union" and inserting "Convention of Berne for the Pro­ tection of Literary and Artistic Works." the Senate amendment. The gentleman from New York [Mr. LAGUARDIA] has given notice that he is going to offer The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the mo­ a motion to instruct the conferees. Only one motion can be tion. made to instruct the conferees, whereas, if the bill ~be con­ The motion was agreed to. sidered in the House as the ordinary procedure is, then the DROUGHT RELIEF House would have an opportunity to perfect the Senate Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee amendment, or to concur in it. on Rules, I call up House Resolution 334, which I send to I suggest to the Democrats, if I may, the propriety of the desk and ask to have read. voting down the previous question; then, if we are outvoted The Clerk read as follows: in that particular, when the rule comes up for considera­ House Resolution 334 (Rept. No. 2232) tion, to vote for the rule, because that is the only way that we can get this bill to conference. We want it to go to Resolved, That immediately upon the adoption of this resolution the joint resolution (H. J. Res. 447) entitled "Joint resolution conference, but we would like to have the privilege of ex­ making an appropriation to carry out the provisions of the public pressing our opinion on the Senate amendment by offering resolution entitled 'Joint resolution for the relief of farmers in either to concur in it or to concur in it with an amendment. the drought and/or storm stricken areas of the United States,' approved December 20, 1930," with Senate amendments thereto, be·, Mr. CRISP. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? and the same hereby is, taken from the Speaker's table to the end Mr. GARNER. Yes. that all Senate amendments be, and the same are, disagreed to Mr. CRISP. Is it the gentleman's idea, then, if the and a conference is requested wtth the Senate upon the disagree­ previous question is voted down, to offer an amendment ing votes of the two Houses. under the rule providing for the immediate consideration of Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, this resolution which has just the resolution under the rules of the House, thus giving been presented needs no explanation. It has for its purpose the House an opportunity to consider the Senate amend­ the sending of this drought-relief proposition to conference ment, and then send the bill to conference? by the most direct course possible. It does exactly what the Mr. GARNER. I thank the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. chairman of the Committee on Appropriations [Mr. WooD] CRISP J for stating it so succinctly and clearly, as he usually has tried to do by unanimous consent on at least three or does. He is one of the best parliamentarians, if not the four occasions. It takes no rights away from any Member best, in the House of Representatives. [Applause.] LXXIV--132 2082 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 All we want is a fair opportunity to consider this amend- , try that this matter of city relief would be considered by the ment, and immediately or within two hours at the latest Rules Committee, and free and open opportunity given to this bill will be in conference, with a fair opportunity for the ' present the matter in this House, was given by the gentle­ House to express itself. But the gentleman from New York man from Indiana [Mr. WooDJ, the chairman of the Com­ [Mr. SNELL] and his organization does not want the House mittee on Appropriations, as reported on January 10, 1931, of Representatives to express itself. If they did, they would page 1940 of the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. not have brought in this kind of a rule. They would pro- Now, that ls what the country believed. Again we have , vide in the rule itself that the House would have the privi- the old gag rule here to shut off all debate, to prevent real lege of each Member having an opportunity to consider deliberation on this most important subject which is now this amendment in an orderly way, the way the rule is pending in this House. intended, and the ·way the people who elected you expect Mr. RAMSEYER. Will the gentleman yield? you to consider legislation, rather than to come here and cut Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Yes, I yield. off every opportunity. Mr. RAMSEYER. The gentleman stated a moment ago I hope the previous question will be voted down and we that an amendment which the gentleman from New York will have an opportunity to amend the rule. [Applause.] [Mr. LAGUARDIA] intended to offer would not be in order Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Mr. Speaker, this special because not germane, so the only thing that is left in the rule is just another evidence of accomplishing by the power bill that is in controversy at all is the Senate amendment of a majority organization what could not be done in a for $15,000,000 to be loaned to the farmers in the drought parliamentary body if it were left to exercise its free will. and storm stricken areas to buy food. The country has been led to believe during the past week, Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. I sa.id the gentleman's by reason of the debates which have been reported in the amendment would be ruled out of order. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, that the addition of this $15,000,000 Mr. RAMSEYER. Well, if it is going to be ruled out of to the drought relief resolution would be left open for order on the ground that it is not germane, what would the amendment on the floor of this House. Gentlemen on the gentleman gain by having this amendment of the gentleman other side of the House stated that the Rules Comm.ittee from New York [Mr. LAGUARDIA] considered in the Com­ would hold hearings at which Members interested in adding mittee of the Whole or in the House as in Committee of the an amendment to provide for some relief in the cities could Whole? What could he discuss or get before the Committee be heard and submit their case to the Committee on Rules. of the Whole that he can not embody in and discuss in a Mr. SNELL. Will the gentleman yield? motion to instruct conferees? That is what I am getting at, Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. I yield. and I should like to have the gentleman answer my questions Mr. SNELL. Who made such a statement? directly. Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. I do not recall that the Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. I do not believe it is be- gentleman from New York [Mr. SNELL] made the state- yond parliamentary possibility, even at this late date, if you ment. propose to provide relief for the farming communities of Mr. SNELL. No; and I do not think the gentleman re- this country, to work out a plan to provide some relief for calls anybody making any such definite statement on the the cities oi the country. floor of the House. · Mr. RAMSEYER. How could it be worked out in this Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Oh, yes; I do. If my bill if it is not germane? recollection is correct, the chairman of the Committee on Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. If the pending resolutions Appropriations tried to console the gentleman from New for relief were brought here under a fair rule, it could be York [Mr. LAGuARDIA] by stating that he and otber Mem- opened up for debate and amended to meet the needs of bers could appear before the Rules Committee and be heard the entire country, but when you shut the door in advance, in behalf of the people in the cities. nobody can penetrate it under the existing rules of this Now, what happened? The Rules Committee was sud- House. denly called in executive session, and this rule was brought Mr. RAMSEYER. The door is not shut in advance. The in here. It cuts off any possibility of amendment. If, when gentleman concedes that the LaGuardia amendment would the resolution containing this $15,000,000 for food for farm- not be germane and evades answering my questions. ers returns from conference, an amendment is offered pro- Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. I yield five minutes to the viding for some relief to the people in the cities, for which gentleman from Illinois [Mr. SABArn]. relief some of the Members from the metropolitan areas Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of ,the have argued for several weeks, that amendment will be held House, the gentleman from Iowa asked what could be done. out of order. Mr. RAMSEYER. I should like to have the gentleman First, the administration is against this $15,000,000 addi- tell the House. . tion for food for the farmers in distress, and, secondly, they Mr. SABATH. I will gladly do so if the gentleman will are more violently opposed to any relief for the suffering in give me a chance to explain what the committee could do. our cities. The Rules Committee, in lieu of this rule, could bring in a ·No one deplores more than I do the growth of any geo- rule making in order a motion to concur in the Senate graphical bloc in this country. We already have a farm amendment with an amendment; that would give the Mem­ bloc that is gnawing at the :floors of the Treasury but if bers a chance to vote on the proposition of amending the this administration continues to be concerned only .;ith the Senate amendment and making a motion in order that welfare of the farmer, you may see what you have not yet would make this fund available to the urban-suffering pea­ got in this Congress-a " city bloc.." The " city mouse '' will ple to the same extent as it is applicable now to the farmers. ·vie with the "country mouse" in boring into the Treasury. Mr. RAMSEYER. Does the gentleman suggest a rule that If you continue to have concern only for a minority of the would make in order something that is not germane and ap- people in this country and keep on takiiig, probably illegally, ply it only to one thing? . probably in contravention of our Constitution, money from Mr. SABATH. Yes, and which .has b~n done frequently, the Treasury for their needs-if you keep on draining the as the gentleman well knows, so as to crrcumvent the tech­ Treasury in behalf of this farming minority, you will build nicalities of the rules of the House. I have answered the up an unfortunate situation in this country, and we shall gentleman. see "bloc" form of government, which confronts other Mr. RAMSEYER. If so, then the gentleman would gag countries. Although I come from the largest city in the the House to that extent? world, I should deplore the formation of any city bloc in Mr. SABATH. No; I would not. I would free the member­ our Government. I entreat you not to make such a situ- ship from the tyrannical rules, which the gentleman has ation necessary, even as a measure of self-protection. often in years - gone by viciously attacked. Under that It has been just called to my attention, Mr. Speaker, that proposition the House would have the right and the privi­ the assurance that was given to the House-and to· the coun- lege of voting on a question which I know a majority of the 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2083 Members of the House, if left alone, are desirous of voting Now, just one word, and in that word I want to address upon, namely, making the appropriation applicable to the myself to my colleaguas from the rural districts and to enlist city people, who are just as hungry and who are suffering their sympathy, as we sympathize with· them. I ask them as much as the farmers. I honestly believe a majority of the to cooperate with us. Members of the House, if given an opportunity, would be No doubt all of you read in the Sunday papers the fact liberal enough to vote favorably on such an amendment. that the President of the United States has made an appeal Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Will the gentleman yield? for Red Cross contributions. Since the appeal has been Mr. SABATH. Yes; I will yield to the gentleman. made you have heard from the president of the Red Cross Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. The gentleman probably: to the effect that it is intended to spend all of these funds understood, like myself, that an opportunity would be af­ in the rural districts. Let me tell you how this money is forded for :r.n:embers to appear before the Rules Committee going to be raised. The quota for New York State to be and ask that this amendment for city relief be made ger­ raised for the $10,000,000 fund for the Red Cross is $2,640,000, mane. It could have been made germane under a rule from of which $1,766,000 will be collected in my city. The quota the Rules Committee if there was to be any question raised for Massachusetts is $792,000; for lllinois, $1,076',000; for about it, just the same as amendments were made germane Pennsylvania, $1,840,000; for California, $738,000; and for in the McNary-Haugen bill and other farm-relief measures. New Jersey, $520,000. So that six States will contribute On those occasions the Rules Committee brought in special $7,606,000 of the $10,000,000, and the Red Cross does not rules making certain matters germane which would other­ expect to spend any of the money in the six States I have wise have been ruled out on points of order. named. Mr. SABATH. There is no question about that and the Now, gentlemen, I submit that if you are in favor of the gentleman from New York is right. This rule gives us noth­ distribution of food that you give me an opportunity to pre­ ing, and it deprives Members of the rights and privileges sent my motion. It only goes this far-to instruct the con­ to which they should be entitled. To my mind, Mr. Speaker ferees to concur in the Senate amendment providing for and gentlemen, the old days of Cannonism gave the mem­ food distribution with an amendment eliminating all limi­ bership much greater privileges than this rule gives, and tations as to classes, occupations, or residence of persons en­ much greater privileges than· we are enjoying at the pres­ titled to receive the food provided for in said Senate amend.. ent time. ment. That would give an opportunity for the conferees of Mr. ABERNETHY. Will the gentleman yield? this House to get together with the Senate conferees, in.. Mr. SABATH. Yes. My time is limited, but I will yield crease the amount, if necessary, and come in with a provi­ to the gentleman, but only for a brief question. sion permitting the distribution of food without limitation Mr. ABERNETHY. This is even worse than filibusteling, as to classes, occupation, or residence. That would take is it not? care of the needy unemployed in the cities. Mr. SABATH. I agree with the gentleman. I want to submit to every fair-minded man in the House Now, Mr. Speaker and gentlemen, I want to bring home that if you provide food relief for the rural districts you can to you this fact: That for each man who is suffering on not in conscience, in good morals, or in law deny the same the farms there are at least 10 men who are suffering and relief to the unfortunates of the cities. [Applause.] who are in want in the cities. [Applause.] There are thou­ This is what Colonel Woods, the chairman of the National sands of small property owners who are about to be evicted, Unemployment Committee, said in New York last Sunday in who can not meet their obligations, who can not pay their a public address: mortgages, and they are being thrown out of their little It is not the fault of the people who are out of work that they homes and are in need of food. That, in a measure, does are out of work. If a derangement of an economic system which they are not responsible for puts them in a position where they not apply to the farmers. They at least have their homes can not earn an honest living, the system of which they are a and they have roofs over their heads; but that is not true part must assume its share of responsibility in mitigating this of hundreds of thousands of city people and thousands of distress. coal miners out of work throughout the United States. And here is the opportunity, gentlemen. If you provide In all justice I feel this House should have the privilege loans for seed, for fuel, and for feed, and if ·the situation and should have the right of voting upon this question. has so grown since that time that you are compelled to add Under this rule the House is powerless because, as the gen­ this food provision, then I appeal to you, in the spirit of tleman from New York has stated, the gentlema-n from New cooperation, vote with me in the motion which I hope to York [Mr. LAGUARDIA] will make one motion and it must make to-day. be a germane motion. Unless it is such he will be ruled out The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from New of order, and for that reason I am against the rule, because York has expired. it does not accomplish anything, knowing that the motion Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Will the gentleman yield? of the gentleman from New York "will be ruled out of order. Mr. LAGUARDIA. I will, if the gentleman yields me time. Consequently, the rule brought in will only accomplish what Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Mr. Speaker, I yield the the gentleman from Indiana has tried to do, namely, sending gentleman one minute. How does the gentleman expect to the bill to conference and depriving the membership of the get over the_ hurdle that this bill only applies to certain right to instruct the conferees to agree to the amendment drought-stricken areas in the United States? with an amendment to make the appropriation available to Mr. LAGUARDIA. I have eliminated that by saying- aid the city people as well as farmers. It is to be regretted Eliminating all limitations as to classes, occupations, or resl­ that you who are responsible for these deplorable conditions dence. and undisputed famine in the cities refuse to listen to the appeals of the unfortunate and hungry people of our land. Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. But the bill itself, of The SPEAKER. T'.ae time of the gentleman from Illinois course, applies to drought-stricken areas. has expired. Mr. LAGUARDIA. If the gentleman will look on page Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, I yield five minutes to the 2005, he will see that in my motion I have sougl).t to elimi­ gentleman from New York [Mr. LAGUARDIA]. nate that restriction. Mr. LAGUARDIA. Mr. Speaker and gentlemen of the Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. I hope the gentleman has House, I am from the city, and I want to assure the gentle­ eliminated it. men who represent rural districts that those of us who live Mr. SABATH: It is also restricted to farmers. in cities are in sympathy with the plight in which ~their Mr. LAGUARDIA. Yes; but that is classed as an occu­ people find themselves. I am making an effort to-day to pation. cooperate with you in every possible way. [Applause.] Mr. BURTNESS. How about the provision with reference The motion which I intend to make, if recognized for that to loans? · purpose, will be found on page 2005 of yesterday's RECORD, Mr. LAGUARDIA. We will take care of that in confer­ and I believe it is germane. ence. I know that I have to keep my amendment germane, 2084 CONGRESSIONA~ RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13

but this will at least give them an idea of what we want The question was taken; and there wen~-yeas 214, nays· done. [Applause.] 143, answered "present " 1, not voting 73, as follows: Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, I have been presenting these [Roll No. 12} rules on the floor here for several years and the Democrats. YEAS-214 have made exactly the same argument against every rule Ackerman Dunbar Ketcham Seiberling that has ever been presented, but the .argument to-day is Adkins Dyer Kiefner SelVig the lamest of any one they have ever presented. Allen Eaton, Colo. Kinzer Shaffer, Va. Andresen Eaton, N.J. Knutson Shott, W.Va. Now, let us look at this situation and take the argument Andrew Elliott Kopp Shreve that the gentleman from Texas [Mr. GARNER] has presented. Arentz Ellis Korell Simmons Bachmann Erk Lambertson Simms Let us see where you would get under his argument. He ad­ Bacon Estep Langley Sloan vised you to vote down the previous question and stated it Baird Esterly Lankford, Va. Smith, Idaho would -give the House some opportunity to consider this Barbour Evans, Cali!. Lea Snell Beck Fenn Leavitt Snow whole subject. Beedy Finley Leech Sparks If the matter of distribution of food in the cities is not Beers Fish Lehlbach Speaks mackburn Fitzgerald Letts Sproul, TIL germane in a motion to instruct conferees, I would like to Bohn Fort Loofbourow Sproul, Kans. have the gentleman from Texas or any other gentleman on Bolton Foss Luce Stafford that side of the House tell me how if it was not germane to Bowman Garber, Okla. McClintock, Ohio Stalker Brand, Ohio Garber, Va. McCormick, lll. Stone the subject under discussion we could have a vote on it this Brigham Gibson McLaughlin Strong, Kans. afternoon, and I yield to the gentleman for that purpose. Britten Gifi'ord Maa.s Strong,Pa. Brumm Goodwin Manlove Summers, Wash. Mr. GARNER. I did not make any statement about its Burdick Goss Mapes Swanson being germane. · Burtness Graham Martin Swick Mr. SNELL. That was the effect and purpose of the gen­ Campbell, Pa. Hadley Menges Swing Carter, Calif. Hall, TIL Merritt Taber tleman's remarks when he was asking the House to vote Carter, Wyo. Hall, Ind. Michener Temple down the previous question. Chalmers Hall, N.Dak. Miller Thatcher Mr. GARNER. No; it was not. The gentleman has asked Chase Halsey Moore, Ohio Thurston Chindblom Hardy Morgan Tflson me a question .and if he will yield I would like to answer it. Chiperfield Hartley Mouser Timberlake Mr. SNELL. I yield, of course. Christopherson Haugen Murphy Tinkham Clague Hess Nelson, Me. Treadway Mr. GARNER. All I asked and all that any other Mem­ Clancy Hickey Nelson, Wis. Turpin ber of this House ought to ask is a fair opportunity to ex­ Clark, Md. Hoch Newhall Underhill press himself under the rules of the House, Why do you Clarke, N.Y. Hogg, Ind. Nledringhaus Vestal Cochran, Pa. Hogg, W.Va. Nolan Vincent, Mich. not give the Members on your side of the House a free Cole Holaday O'Connor. Okla. Wainwright opportunity to express themselves? There are gentlemen Colton Hooper Palmer Wason Connolly Hope Peavey Watson. over there who would like to express themselves on this Cooke Houston, Del. Pittenger Welch, Calif. question. Cooper. Ohio Hudson Pratt, Harcourt J. Welsh, Pa. Mr. SNELL. There is nothing in this rule to prevent it. Coyle Hull, Wllllam E. Pritchard White Craddock Irwin Purnell Whitley We do not change any general rules in this respect. Crall Jenkins Ramey. Frank M. Wigglesworth Mr. GARNER. Why does not the gentleman give them an Cramton Johnson, Ind. Ramseyer Williamson Crowther Johnson, Nebr. Ransley Wolfenden opportunity to express themselves under the rules of the Dallinger Johnson, Wash. Reece Wolverton, N.J. House? Darrow Johnston, Mo. Reed,N. Y. Wolverton, W. V~ Mr. SNELL. We are giving you the freest opportunity Davenport Jonas, N.C. Rich Wood Denison ·Kading Robinson Woodru1I possible. We have in the past brought in rules with some De Priest Kahn Rogers Wyant limitations attached. I admit that, but there is not a limi­ Dickinson Kelly Sanders, N. Y. Yates Doutrich Kendall, Ky. Schafer, Wis. tation attached to the rule that we have brought here to-day. Dowell Kendall, Pa. Sears It is a Democratic rule adopted years ago, and gives all the NAYB--143 opportunity to the House to express itself that is possible. Abernethy DeRouen Igoe Palmisano Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Will the gentleman yield? Allgood Dickstein James, N.C. Parks Mr. SNELL. Certainly. Almon Dominick Jeffers Parsons Arnold Doughton Johnson. Okla. Patman Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. The gentleman will admit, Aswen Douglas, Ariz. Johnson, Tex. Patterson will he not, that the Ruies Committee could have made a Ayres Doxey Jones, Tex. Pou Black Drane Kennedy Prall provision germane that would provide for relief for those Blanton Drewry Kerr Ragon suffering distress in our cities? Bloom Edwards Kvale Rainey, Henry.T. Mr. SNELL. Why, certainly, I admit that we could have Box Eslick LaGuardia Ra.mspeck Boylan Evans, Mont. Lanham Rankin done it, but that would not have been the normal and Brand, Ga. Fisher Lankford, Ga. Rayburn natural way to proceed, and your side of the House would Briggs Frear Larsen Reilly Browning Fuller Lindsay Romjue certainly have found fault with any such rule as that. I Brunner Fulmer Linthicum Rutherford am presenting you a rule that is absolutely the normal and Gambrill Lozier Sabath natural way and the shm·test way to get this bill to con­ Busby Garner Ludlow Sanders. Tex. Byrns Gasque McClintic, Okla. Sandlln ference, and that is what the people on that side of the aisle Campbell, Iowa Gavagan McCormack, Mass.Schneider have stated they want. I have given you that opportunity, Cannon Glover McDume Sinclair and are you going to take it or delay as you have on two Cartwright Goldsborough McKeown Somers, N.Y. Celler Granfield McMflla.n Spearing other occasions? Chrlstgau Green McReynolds Steaga.Il Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. When the gentleman Clark, N. C. Greenwood McSwain Sullivan, N.Y. Cochran, Mo. Gregory Mead Sumners. Tex. brought in the McNary-Haugen bill and other farm-relief Collier Griffin Milligan Tarver measures, he did the " unusual " and made certain amend­ Collins Hall, Miss. Montague Tayior. Colo. ments germane which would not otherwise have been ger­ Condon Hancock, N.C. Mooney Tucker Connery Hare Moore, Ky. Vinson, Ga. mane. Cooper, Tenn. Moore, Va.. Warren Mr. SNELL. Yes; and we were sorry for it afterwards. If Cooper, Wis. Hill, Ala. Morehead Whittington Cox Hfil, Wash. Nelson, Mo. Wingo you vote down the previous question you will not get any­ Crisp Howard O'Connor, N.Y. Woodrum where this afternoon, and I assure you that. However. if Cross Huddleston Oldfield Wright you order the previous question you will get some action Crosser Hull, Tenn. Oliver, Ala.. Yon on the matter this afternoon, and the resolution will go to Davis Hull, Wis. Owen conference. ANSWERED " PRESENT "-1 Oliver, N. Y. Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Is not the gentleman in- II terested at all in the distress of the people in our cities? NOT VOTING-73 Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question. Aldrich Bell Butler Corning Aut der Heide Bland . Cable Culkin Mr. GARNER. Mr. Speaker, I ask for the yeas and nays. Bacharach Browne Canfield Cullen The yeas and nays were ordered. Bankhead Buckbee Carley Dempsey 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2085

Dorsey Hoffman Michaelson Stobbs Hoch Lozier Pittenger Stone Douglass, Mass. Hopkins Montet Sullivan, Pa. Hogg, Ind. Luce Pou Strong, Kg,ns, Doyle Hudspeth Norton Taylor, Tenn. Hogg, W.Va. Ludlow Prall Strong, Pa. Driver Hull, Morton D. O'Connor, La. Thompson Holaday McClintic, Okla. Pratt, Harcourt J. Sullivan, N.Y. Englebrlght James, Mich. - Parker Underwood Hooper McClintock, Ohio Pritchard Summers, Wash. Fitzpatrick Johnson, lll. Perkins Walker Hope McCormack, Mass.Pumell Sumners, Tex. Free Johnson, S. Dak. Pratt, Ruth Watres Hopkins McCormick. lll. Quin Swanson Freeman Keams Qutn Whitehead Houston, Del. McDuffie Ragon Swick French Kemp Reid, Til. Williams Hudson McKeown Rainey, Henry T. Swing Garrett Kunz Rowbottom Wilson Hull, E. McLaughlin Ramey, Frank M. Taber Golder Kurtz Seger Wurzbach Hull, Tenn. McMillan Ramseyer Tarver Guyer McFadden Short, Mo. Zihlman Hull, Wis. McReynolds Ramspeck Taylor, Colo. Hale McLeod Sirovich Igoe McSwain Rankin Taylor, Tenn. Hancock, N.Y. Magrady Smith, W.Va. Irwin Maas Ransley Temple Hawley Mansfield Stevenson James, N.C. Manlove Rayburn Thatcher Jeffers Mapes Reece Thurston So the previous question was ordered. Jenkins Martin Reed, N. Y. Tilson The following pairs were announced: J-ohnson, Ind. Mead ' Reilly Timber!ake Mr. Buckbee (for) with Mr. Oliver of New York (against). Johnson, Nebr. Menges Rich Tinkham Mr. Aldridge (for) with Mr. Williams (against). Johnson, Okla. Merritt Robinson Treadway Mr. Hawley (for) with Mr. Cullen (against). Johnson, Tex. Michener Rogers Tucker Mr. Free (for) with Mr. Bankhead (against). Johnson. -Wash. Miller Romjue Turpin Mr. Hopkins (for) with Mr. Wilson (against). Jonas, N.C. M!lligan Rutherford Vestal Mr. Bacharach (for) with Mr. Montet (against). Jones, Tex. Montague Sanders, N.Y. Vincent, Mich. Mr. Magrady (for) with Mr. Douglass of Massachusetts (against). Kading Mooney Sanders, Tex. Vinson, Ga. Mr. Coming {for) with Mr. Browne (against). Kahn Moore, Ky. Sandlin Wainwright Mr. Short (for) with Mr. Mansfield (against). K-elly Moore, Ohio Schafer, Wis. Warren Mrs. Ruth Pratt (for) with Mrs. Norton (against). Kendal!, Ky. Moore, Va. Schneider Wason Mr. Englebright (for) with Mr. Underwood (against). Kendall, Pa. Morehead Sears Wa tres Mr. Golder (for) with Mr. Dorsey (against). Kennedy Mouser Seiberl1ng Watson Mr. Hale (for) with Mr. Carley (against). Kerr Murphy Selvig Welch, Cali!. Mr. Johnson of lilinois (for) with Mr. Canfield (against). Ketcham Nelson, Me. Sha.ffer, Va. Welsh, Pa. Mr. McFadden (for) with Mr. Auf der Heide (against). Kiefner Nelson, Mo. Shott, W.Va. White Mt. Johnson of South Dakota (for) with Mr. Kemp (against). Kinzer Nelson, Wis. Shreve Whitley Mr. Reid of Dlinois (for) with Mr. Garrett (against). Knutson Newhall Simmons Whittington Mr. Perkins (for) with Mr. Driver (against). Kopp Niedringhaus Simms Wigglesworth Mr. French (for) with Mr. Quin (against). Lambertson Nolan Sinclair Williamson Mr. Kurtz (for) with Mr. Stevenson (against). Langley O'Connor, N.Y. Sloan Wingo Mr. McLeod (for) With Mr. Sirovich (against). Lanham O'Connor, Okla. Smith, Idaho Wolfenden Mr. Stobbs (for) with Mr. Smith of West V1rg1nla (against). Lankford, Ga. Oldfield Snell Wolverton, N.J. Mr. Kearns (for) with Mr. Bell (against). Lankford, Va. Oliver, Ala. Snow Wolverton, w. Va. Mr. Sullivan of Pennsylvania (for) with Mr. Kunz {against). Larsen Oliver, N.Y. Somers, N.Y. Wood Mr. Guyer (for) with Mr. O'Connor of Louisiana (against). Lea Owen Sparks Woodruff Mr. Culkin (for) with Mr. Fitzpatrick {against). Leavitt Palmer Speaks Woodrum Leech Palmisano Spearing Wright General pail·s: Lehlbach Parks Sproul, lll. Wurzbach Mr. Taylor of Tennessee with Mr. Bland. Letts Parsons Sproul, Kans. Wyant Mr. Wurzbach with Mr. Whitehead. Lindsay Patman Stafford Yates Mr. Freeman with Mr. Hudspeth. Linthicum Patterson Stalker Yon Mr. James of Michigan with Mr. Doyle. Loofbourow Peavey Steagall Zihlman Mr. OLIVER of New York. Mr. Speaker, if I were not NAYS--4 paired, I would have voted" no." Black Connery Huddleston LaGuardia The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. ANSWERED "PRESENT "-3 Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, I ask for a vote on the rule. Howard Kvale Sabath The SPEAKER. The· question is on agreeing to the NOT VOTING--'72 resolution. Aldrich Dempsey Johnson, TIL Perkins Mr. GARNER. And on that, Mr. Speaker, I ask for the Andrew Dickinson Johnso.a, S.Dak. Pratt, Ruth yeas and nays. Auf der Heide Dorsey Johnston, Mo. Reid, ru. Bacharach Douglass, Mass. Keams Rowbottom The yeas and nays were ordered. Bankhead Doyle Kemp Seger The question was taken; and there we.re-:...yeas 352, nays 4, Bell Englebrlght Korell Short. Mo. answered" present, 3, not voting 72, as follows: Bland Fitzpatrick Kunz Strovich l3rowne Free Kurtz Smith, W.Va. [Roll No. 131 Buckbee Garrett McFadden Stevenson YEAS-352 Butler Golder McLeod Stobbs Abernethy - Byrns Crowther Freeman Cable Guyer Magrady Sullivan, Pa. Ackerman Campbell, Iowa Dalllnger French Canfield Hale Mansfield Thompson Adkins Campbell, Pa. Darrow Fuller Carley · Hancock, N. Y. Michaelson Underhlll Allen Cannon Davis Fulmer Celler. Hawley Montet Underwood Allgood Carter, Calif. Denison GambrUI Corning Hoffman Morgan Walker Almon Carter, Wyo. De Priest Garber, Okla.. Culkin Hudspeth Norton Whitehead Andresen Cartwright DeRouen Garber, Va. Cullen Hull, Morton D. - O'Connor, La. Wlll!ams Arentz Chalmers Dickstein Garner Davenport James, Mich. Parker Wilson Arnold Chase Dominick Gasque So the resolution was agreed to. Aswell Chindblom Doughton Gavagan Ayres Chiperfield Douglas, Ariz. Gibson The following additional pairs were announced: Bachmann Christgau Doutrich Gifford General pairs until further notice: Bacon Christopherson Dowell Glover Baird Clague Doxey Goldsborough Mr. Aldrich with Mr. Willlams. Barbour Clancy Drane Goodwin Mr. Hawley 'with Mr. Oullen. · Beck Clark,Md. Drewry Goss Mr. Free with Mr. Bankhead. Beedy Clark,N. C. Driver Graham Mr. Bacharach with Mr. Montet. . Beers Clarke, N.Y. Dunbar Granfield Mr; Magrady with Mr. Douglass of Massachusetts. Blackburn Cochran, Mo. Dyer Green Mr. Browne with Mr. Corning. Blanton Cochran, Pa. Eaton, Colo. Greenwood Mr. Short of Missouri with Mr. Mansfield. Bloom Cole Eaton, N.J. Gregory Mrs. Ruth Pratt with Mrs. Norton. Bohn - comer Edwards Grtm.n Mr. Englebright with Mr. Underwood. Bolton Collins Elliott Hadley Mr. Golder with Mr. Dorsey. Bowman Colton Ellis Hall, Til. Mr. Hale with Mr. Carley. Box Condon Erk Hall, Ind. Mr. Johnson of illinois with Mr. Canfield. Boylan Connolly Eslick Hall, Miss. Mr. McFadden with Mr. Auf der Heide. Brand, Ga. Cooke Estep Hall, N. Dak. Mr. Johnson of South Dakota with Mr. Kemp. Brand, Ohio Cooper, Ohio Esterly Halsey Mr. Reid of Illinois with Mr. Garrett. Briggs Cooper, Te::1n. Evans, Calif. Hancock, N. 0. Mr. Kurtz with Mr. Stevenson. Brigham Cooper, Wis. Evans, Mont. Hardy Mr. McLeod with Mr. Sirovlch. Britten Cox Fenn Hare Mr. Stobbs with Mr. Smith of West Virginia. Browning Coyle Finley Hartley Mr. Kearns with Mr. Bell. Brumm Craddock Fish . Hastings Mr. Sullivan of Pennsylvania with Mr. Kunz. Brunner Crail Fisher Haugen Mr. Guyer with Mr. O'Connor of Louisiana. Buchanan Cramton Fitzgerald Hess Mr. Culkin with Mr. Fitzpatrick. Burdick crisp· Fort mckey Mr. P~kins with Mr. Wilson. · Burtness Cross Foss H1ll_ Ala.. Mr. Bnckbee with Mr. Bland. Busby Crosser Frear Blll.Wash. Mr. Davenport with Mr. Whitehe~ 2086 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY ·13" Mr. James of '"Michigan with Mi": Hudspeth. to areas, not to any one specific area. It is in the plural, Mr. Underhill with Mr. Celler. Mr. Johnston of Missouri with Mr. Doyle. - not J.D. the singular. Then, who are the people to be bene­ fited? Is it one class of people? No. The bill refers to The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. two classes of persons, to those in the drought area and to Mr. LAGUARDIA. Mr. Speaker,· I present the following the people in the storm-stricken area. If this were an ap­ motion to instruct the conferees. propriation for one person in one area, then the argument The Clerk read as follows: presented by my colleague from New York might be tenable, Mr. LAGUARDIA moved that the House conferees be instructed to but the doors have been opened here under the precedents concur in the Senate amendment providing for food distribution with an amendment eliminating all limitations as to classes, occu­ of the House, because it refers to -various areas and to pation, or residence of persons entitled to receive the food pro­ two classes of stricken people, the storm -stricken and the vided for in said Senate amendment. drought-affected people. The decisions on the point are Mr. SNELL. Mr. Speaker, I make a point of order against numerous. I concede that where a bill provides relief for the amendment. I make the· point of order first that the one person an amendment providing relief for another per­ gentleman is trying to do by indirection what he would not son is not germane under the decisions, and where the relief be allowed to do by direction under the rules of the House. applies to one class an amendment making it applicable to Secondly, under section b, Rule XVI, a specific subject a second class is not germane under the decisions; but, at may not be amended by a provision general in nature, even the risk of becoming tiresome, I repeat that the provisions when of the class of the specific subject is refened. here apply to various areas in various States spread all over The gentleman from New York has presented a very care­ the United States, some contiguous and some quite distant fully and cleverly worded amendment. from each other, so that so far as the locality and my Now, let us see what the exact situation is. The proposi­ amendment eliminating locality are concerned I am clearly tion before the House in the Senate amendment is that we in order under the decisions. As to the classes of people, we shall lend money to buy food for farmers in the drought and have the drought-afflicted class and the storm-afflicted class. storm stricken areas of the United States, a specific subject, Here, again, we have two classes, and under the decision I at a specific place, and a specific lot of people. can so amend as to make the benefits applicable to anothe1· If the amendment of the gentleman from New York was class in the cities. adopted, he would remove all restrictions, and instead of I call the attention of the Chair .to a decision on May .8. having a specific proposition before us of lending money for 1902, which is the leading decision on the question of ger­ the purpose of buying food to a specific people, he would re­ maneness, in respect to adding to specific provisions of a move all these limitations, and his amendment provides for bill, where Mr. James T. Lloyd, of Missouri, raised a ques­ the distribution of food to all people in any part of the tion of order to an amendment adding another Territory to United States. In other words, he chB.nges it over from a a bill admitting several Territories into statehood. The specific proposition to a general subject, in a general way, Chair there held: which is directly in opposition to the rules of the House. If this were a bill for the admission of Oklahoma Territory alone There are several decisionS on this well-recognized rule of as a State, there would be no doubt as to the position taken by the gentleman from Missouri being correct, and an amendment to the House that you can not do by indirection that which admit some other Territory as a State would not be in order; but would not be allowed to do by direction. The gentleman this is a general bill covering three different Territories, and -an from New York has sought by eliminating a number of amendment as suggested by the gentleman from Alabama to admit words to accomplish exactly the same thing that he could Alaska as a State would be 1n 6rder under this bill. have accomplished by direction, but by diiection it would be We have exactly the same proposition in this bill now be­ subject to the rule of germaneness, and the gentleman rec­ fore us. It relates to various areas in many States and to ognizes that fact, that his intended amendment would not two distinct classes of people. I call the attention of the be germane as a simple amendment in committee. Speaker to another deciSion, a bill regulating "oleomarga­ If I remember correctly there was practically the same rine and imitation dairy products," where an amendment, proposition before the House last winter, when the gentle:­ including "imitation butter," was offered and held germane man from Michigan, Mr. HooPER, was in the chair. He on February 11, 1902, to be found on page 487 of Volume V made a decision, and it was bolstered up by several decisions of Hinds' Precedents. I also call the Speaker's attention made previously, that where an amendment eliminates cer­ to still another ruling. A ruling made by Mr. Chairman tain words in the text of the bill, changing the whole propo­ Sherley, of Kentucky, where he held that adding articles on sition from a specific proposition to a general one, it is not the free list to the free-list section of a tariff bill was ger­ germane. I believe there is also a decision by the present mane, because there was more than one article on that free Speaker that is exactly along this same line. list. That extended the scope of the provision and meets On these grounds, Mr. Speaker, I contend that the amend­ the objection raised by my colleague from New York [Mr. ment offered by the gentleman from New York is not ger­ SNELL]. I submit that my whole point here and my justifi­ mane and should not be considered at this time. cation for the instructions I seek to give to the conferees is Mr. LAGUARDIA. Mr. Speaker, I desire to be heard on that the ·bill before us applies to more than one area and to the point of order. ~e gentleman from New York frankly­ more than one class of beneficiaries and hence an amend­ states that it is extremely difficult to argue against my ment extending the areas to the cities and adding another motion to instruct. . class, the unemployed, is germane under the rules and prece­ In the first place, what is before the House? A proposi­ dents. My motion to instruct the conferees would permit tion to send an appropriation bill to conference, and the them to work out in this bill a provision which will carry Speaker will admit, I am sure, that a motion to instruct the out the wishes of the House if my motion is agreed; under conferees is entitled to greater latitude than an amendment the rules and precedents I submit that the motion is which would be offered to an appropriation bill before the germane. House for consideration. The SPEAKER. The Chair is prepared to rule. The The gentleman states that I am seeking to do indirectly Chair agrees with the gentleman from New York [Mr. what I could not do directly. I am sure the gentleman is in SNELL] that the motion of the gentleman from New York error as to that, because the only proposition before us is [1\.fr. LAGuARDIA] is very ingeniously drawn and in the opin­ sending the resolution to conference, and all I am doing is ion of the Chair has great merit, but that can not be con­ the only thing I can do directly-to move to instruct under sidered by the Chair in determining the point of order. The the present parliamentary situation. So much for the Chair must disagree with the gentleman from New York [Mr. matter of direct action. LAGUARDIA] in his general proposition that conferees have The gentleman from New York [Mr." SNELL] says that I broader powers than the House itself has; in other words, that can not change one specific provision by adding another. the House may instruct conferees to do a thing which the On that the point of order will be decided. I call the atten­ House could not do itself. The Chair thinks that motions tion of the Chair to the very provisions of the bill. It refers to instruct conferees stand on exactly the same basis and 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2087 must be dealt with in the same way as motions to recommit Linthicum Nelson, Mo. Rainey, Hen.."'Y T. Spearing Lozier O'Connor, N.Y. Ramspeck Steagall to a committee with instructions,· and that if the House can McClintic, Okla. Oldfield · Rankm· · Stone not authorize a committee to do that which the House itself McCormack,Mass.OUver, N.Y. Rayburn Sullivan, N.Y. can not do, it follows that it can not instruct conferees to McDuffie Owen Romjue Sumners, Tex. McKeown Palmisano Rutherford Tarver do that which the House can not do. McMillan ' Parks Sabath _ Taylor, Colo. The motion of the gentleman from New York is that the McReynolds Parsons Sanders, Tex. Vinson, Ga. McSwain Patman Sandlin Warren House conferees be instructed to concur in the Senate Mead Patterson Schafer, Wis. Whittington amendment providing for food distribution, and so forth. Milligan Peavey Schneider Woodrum What is that Senate amendment?- Montague Prall . Sinclair Wright Moore. Ky. Qutn Somers, N.Y. Yon That the Secretary o! Agriculture is hereby authorized for the Moore, Va. Ragon Sparks crop of 1931 to make advances of loans to. farmers in the drought NAYS-215 and storm stricken areas where he shall find that an emergency for such assistance exists, for the purchase o! food under such Ackerman • Doutrich Kelly Seiberling terms as may be prescribed by the Secretary of Agriculture. Adkins Dowell Kendall, Ky. Selvig Allen Dunbar Kendall, Pa.. Shaffer, Va.. The motion of the gentleman from New York is not di­ Andresen Dyer Ketcham Shott, W. Va. Andrew Eaton, Colo. Kinzer Shreve rected against the bill as a whole, but only to that one Arentz Eaton, N.J. Knutson Simmons amendment, which the Chair has just read, which is specifi­ Bachmann Elliott Kopp Sloan Bacon · Erk Korell Smith, Idaho cally limited to farmers in the drought and storm stricken Baird Estep LaGuardia Snell areas. The gentleman from New York desires to broaden Barbour Esterly Lankford, Va. Snow that to the extent that it would prevail in cities where there Beck Evans, Call!, Leavitt Speaks Beedy Penn Leech Sproul, lll. are no drought or storm stricken areas and no farmers. The Beers Fish Lehlbach Stafford last decision on the general subject of whether a motion to Black Fort Letts Stalker Blackburn broaden a specified area is germane was made by t~e pres­ Foss Loofbourow Strong, Kans. Bohn Freeman Luce Strong, Pa. ent occupant of the chair on April 2, 1930. A bill was under Bolton· French Ludlow Summers, Wash. consideration which provided, among other things, that ac­ Bowman Garber, Okla. McClintock, Ohio Swanson Brand, Ohio Garber, Va. McLaughlin Swick tions brought against a carrier should only be in a State Brigham Gibson Maas Swing through or into which the carrier operates a line of railway. Britten Gi.fford Manlove Taber An amendment was offered proposing in addition that such Brumm Goodwin Mapes Taylor, Tenn. Brunner Goss Martin Temple action might be brought in the district or State where the Buchanan Graham Menges, Thatcher railroad maintained an agent, and the Chair held that that Burdick Grtmn Merritt Thurston was not germane, because it broadened largely the area in Burtness Hadley Michener Tilson Campbell, Pa. Hall, Ill. Miller Timberlake which the proposition was supposed to operate. Carter, Cali!. ­ Hall, Ind. Mooney -Tinkham The Chair thinks that the motion of the gentleman from Carter, Wyo. Hall, N.Dak. Moore, Ohio Treadway Chalmers Halsey Morehead · Tucker New York seeks to do exactly the.sort of thing which .the Chase ­ · Hancock, N.Y. Morgan Turpin present occupant of the chair has held to be illegal, and the Chindbloom Hardy. Mouser Underhill Chair is constrained to sustain the point of order made by Chiperfield Hartley Murphy Vestal Christopherson Haugen Nelson, Me. Vincent, Mlch. the gentleman from New York [Mr. SNELLJ. Clague Hess Newhall WainWI•ight Mr. McCLINTIC of Oklahoma. Mr. Speaker, a parlia- Clancy Hickey Niedringhaus Wason mentary inquiry. · Clarke. N.Y. Hoch Nolan Watres Cochran,Pa.. Hogg, Ind. O'Connor, Okla. Watson The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. Cole Hogg, W.Va. Palmer Welch, Call!. Mr. McCLINTIC of Oklahoma. The Chair having held Colton_ Holaday Pittenger Welsh, Pa. Connery Hooper Pou White that the gentleman's motion is out of order, does the rule Connolly Hope Pratt. Harcourt J. Whitley permit the offering of another motion to instruct? · Cooke · Hopkins · Pritchard Wigglesworth The SPEAKER. The rules permit, at this stage, one Cooper. Ohio Houston, Del. Purnell Williamson Coyle Hudson Ramey, Frank M. Wolfenden motion that is in order. r Crall . Hull, William E. Ramseyer Wolverton, N.J. Mr. McCLINTIC of Oklahoma. Mr. Speaker, I move that Cramton Irwin Ransley Wolverton, W.Va. . Dallinger Jenkins Reece Wood the House conferees be instructed to concur in the Senate Darrow - Johnson, Ind. Reed, N.Y. Woodruff amendment. Dempsey John...~n. Nebr. Reilly Wurzbach The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. Denison Johnson, Wash. Rich Wyant De Priest Jonas, N. C. Robinson Yates McCLINTIC] moves that the House conferees be instructed Dickinson Kading Rogers Zihlman to concur in the Senate amendment. The question is on the Dickstein Kahn · Sanders, N.Y. motion of the gentleman from Oklahoma. . ANSWERED "PRESENT "-1 The question was taken, and the Speaker announced that Oliver, Ala. the noes seemed to have it. NOT VOTING-80 . Mr. McCLINTIC of Oklahoma. Mr. Speaker, I demand Aldrich Davenport Johnson, S.Dak. Pratt, Ruth a division. Almon Dorsey Johnston, Mo. Reid, Til. AufderHeide Douglas, Ariz. Kearns Rowbottom Mr. PARKS. Mr. Speaker, I ask for the yeas and nays. Bacharach Douglass, Mass. Kemp Sears The yeas and nays were ordered. Bankhead Doyle K1efner Seger The question was taken; and there were-yeas nays Bell Ellis Kunz Short, Mo. qs, Bland Engle bright Kurtz Simms 215, answered" present" 1, not voting 80, as follows: Bloom Fitzgerald Larsen Strovich [Roll No. 14] Browne Fitzpatrick McCormick, Ill. Smith, W.Va. Buckbee Free McFadden Sproul, Kans. YEAS-135 Butler Garrett McLeod Stevenson Abernethy Colllns Finley Hill, Wash. Cable Golder Ma.grady Stobbs Allgood Condon Fisher Howard Canfield Guyer Mansfield Sullivan, Pa.. Arnold Cooper, Tenn. Frear Huddleston Carley Hale Michaelson Thompson Aswell Cooper, Wis. Fuller Hull, Tenn. Celler Hawley Montet Underwood Ayres Cox Fulmer Hull, Wis. Clark, Md. Hoffman Nelson, Wis. Walker Blanton Craddock Gambrill Igoe Corning Hudspeth Norton Whitehead Box Crisp Garner James, N.C. Crowther Hull, Morton D. O'Connor, La. Williams Boylan Cross Gasque Jeffers Culkin James, Mich. Parker Wilson Brand, Ga. Crosser Gavagan Johnson, Okla. Cullen Johnson, lll. Perkins Wingo Briggs Davis Glover Johnson, Tex. Browning DeRouen Goldsborough Jones, Tex. So the motion was rejected. Busby Dominick Granfield Kennedy The Clerk announced the following additional pairs: Byrns Doughton Green Kerr Additional general pairs: Campbell, Iowa Doxey Greenwood Kvale Cannon Drane Gregory Lambertson Mr. Nelson o! Wisconsin with Mr. Bland. Cartwright Drewry Hall, Miss Langley Mr. James of Michigan with Mr. Almon. Christga.u . Driver Hancock, N.C. Lanham Mr. Morton D. Hull with Mr. Douglas of Arizona. Clark, N.C." Edwards Hare • Lankford, Ga. Mr. Parker· with Mr. Larsen. Cochran, Mo. Eslick Hastings Lea Mr. Cable with Mr. Doyle.' Coll1er Evans, Mont. Hill, Ala.. Lindsay Mr. K1efne!l' with Mr. Hudspeth. 2088 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 On the ·vote: the disposition of useless papers in the .executive depart­ Mr. Williams (for) with Mr. Aldrich (against). ments,'' for the disposition of useless papers in the United Mr. Cullen (for) with Mr. Hawley (against). States Civil Service Commission. Mr. Bankhead (for) with Mr. Free (against). Mr. Montet (for) with Mr. Bacharach (against). ARMY APPROPRIATION BILL Mr. Douglass of Massachusetts (for) with Mr. Magrady (against). Mr. Browne (for) with Mr. Corning (against). Mr. BARBOUR. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House Mr. Mansfield (for) with rJf. Short of Missouri {against). Mrs. Norton (for) with Mrs. Ruth Pratt (against). resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the Mr. Underwood (for) with Mr. Engelbright (against). state of the Union for the further consideration of the bill Mr. Dorsey (for) with Mr. Golder {against).

Langley (Morgan), ch. 1918, Hug~Eudora-General Gates. St. Allan, b. 1917, Bridge of Allan-St. Aelwena-Chaucer. 1 14-2%; 1000. B. J. Colter, Springerville. 16-

Karachi, b. 1922, Light Brigade-Madras-. 1~2; Canyon, ch. 1919, Harrn.onlcpn-Welsh Mald-Llangwm. - 15-3 ~~; 1100. George Sharp, Liberal. 1000. J. P. Hedges, Ekalaka. . Liberal LaA, b. 1925, Falkirn-Zora H-Frisco System. 15-%; Do or Die, br. 1922, Light Brigade-Lady Vulcain-Vulcain. 950. Jim Parker, Council Grove. 15-Yz; 1000. T. Cantwell ~ Ashland. Linsley (Morgan), ch. 1918, General Gates-Sunflower Maid­ Durham, b. 1923, -La Cagoule--Cheri. 15-3% ; 1000. Headlight Morgan. 15-1; 1180. Elmer Brown, Halstead. F. Parkins, Lee. Natchez, ch. 1911, Ormicant-Chartreuse--Charaxus. 15-3; Figuration, br. 1918, Rogon-Figent-Hastings. 15-1%; 1000. 1050. F. A. Dickson, Kansas City. W. Brewster, Birney. Peace Penn, b. 1924, Peace · Pennant-Mirka-Peter Quince. Glentilt, b. 1920, Ecouen---Glorita-Ajax. 15-3; 1100. Fred · 16-2 Yz ; 1100. T. S. Moffett, Kansas City. King, Otter. Rabbaz (Arab), b. 1921, Sinbad-Remin-Berk. 15; 1000. Dr. Gus Kruse, ch. 1917, Rogon-Nellie Fritz-Andrew Mack. 15-2; W. 0. Tucker, Wamego. 1000. W. Lewis, Broadus. . Raphia, b. 1924, Rabelais-La Grelee-Hellcon. 16; 1050. Dan Jasper, b. 1925, Craigangower-Sard-Ben Brush. 15-2¥z ; 1000. D. Casement, Manhattan. , L. G . Irion, Coalwood. Roband (Morgan), b. 1921, Red Oak-Birdie K-Headlight Mor· K of K, ch. 1915, Glasgerion-Mrs. K-Americus. 15-3; 122~. gan. 15; 1050. Thos. T. Counter, Oberlin. U. S. L. S. Experiment Station, Fort Keogh. Simon Gallop, b. 1915, Galloping Simon---Gavosa-Orme. 16-1; Rey de Los Angeles, b. 1924, Adalid-Feranda-Rey el Santa 1200. Wes Staatz, Junction City. Anita. 14-3%; 900. A. J. Irion, Olive. Suburban, b. 1921, Vlndex-Rural-Moharib. 16-1 Yz; 1250. Rigolo, b. 1924, Rire Aux Larmes-Sibola-Rapid Water. 15-3; John Bloom, Medicine Lodge. 1000. A. E. Brown, Birney. Sully, ch. 1922, Jim Gaffney-Bramble Bush-Celt. 15-3; 1050. Rodan (Arab), ch. 1906, Harb-Rose of Sharon-Hadban. Elba J. Steele, Grigston. 15-1%; 900. W. Scott, Ridge. Swanton (Morgan), b. 1925, Bennington-Carolyn-Ethan Wood· Roly, b. 1912, Golden Maxim-Lotawanna-Trenton. 15-3; 1125. bury. 15; 1000. Clyde Gardner, Alma. J. A. Ramer, Coalwood. Swing·Loose, ch. 1916, Broomstick-Courage-. 15-3'(z; San Marcus, ch: 1917, 2d-Lady Nell-Mordant. 16-1; 125"0. W. D. Rorick, Johnson. 1100. A. J. Irion, Olive. KENTUCKY Saratoga, b. 1912; Ogden-Unsightly-Pursebearer. 15-3; 1185. Barabbas, ch. 1924, North Star lli-Bandello-. 16; L. Dunning, Ashland. 1125. Hugh Gregory, Springfield. Secret Greetings, b . 1918, Luke McLuke-Zahra--Mazagan. Brown Sugar, b. 1922, Brown Prince II-Sweet Alice-Flying 16-2; 1250. L. Dunning, Ashland. Dutchman. 10-%; 1150. A. H. Platt, Varsailles. Sir Charles, br. 1922, Peter -Chul1ta-Kingston. 16-1; 1100. . Zeus, b. 1908, Adam-Shaft-The Pepper. 16-2; 1300. W. M. E. F. Marsh, Nibbe . Williams, Hopkinsville. Sir Stuart, b. 1923, -Sweetheart IT-Oversight. 16-1; Zeus the Second, b. 1923, Zeus-Sweet Pea--Ivan the Terrible. 1100. W. B. Spear, Kirby. 15-3; 1100. J. B. Ritter, Temple Hill. War Plume, blk. 1916, Star Shoot-Courtplaster-8andringham. · Son, br. 1925, Son·in·Law-Isauria-. 16-Yz; 1150. P. & 15-2 Yz ; 1100. Tom Reavis, Decker. · B. Hdqrs., . MONTANA (WESTERN ZONE) . Selim, br. 1920, Sain-Rezia--. 16; 1150. Brice Leech, Czardom, b. 1916, Royal Realm-Zoara-Matchmaker. 15-2; 950. Glasgow. Charles L. Anderson, Missoula. LOUISIANA Delarious, ch. 1925, Hilarious._Marie T-Ogden. 16; 1200. J. Doc Horn, ch. 1921, Flying Squirrel-Debutante-McGee. · 16; Bland Catlett, Sula. 1075. F. E: Girard, Lafayette. Duke of Lancaster,·ch. 1915, John O'Gaunt--Tamanamass-Grey Madrenor, b. 1922, Norito-La Madre--Cruzados. 15-3; 1000. Legg. 15-3; 1100. Fred Lewis, Browning. Forest J. Bordelon, Plaucheville. El Pennant, br. 1927, War Pennant-El Amiga-Rey el Santa MARYLAND Anita. 15; 995. G. W. Noffsinger, Kalispell. Guilsborough, b. 1922, Diadumenos-Clare House-Weathercock, Batonnier, b. 1921, Cudgel-Sou-Hastings. 1~2; 1100. J. Eric Powell, Bethesda. 16; 1000. Forrest R. Stone, Browning. Caro, ch. 1924, .Comrade--Carolle-Nimbus. 16; 1050. Andrew Merchant Marine, br. 1918, -Dorothy Gray-Ham­ B. Berger, jr., Clinton. burg. 16; 1075. Forrest R. Stone, Browning. Oley, b. 1924, Polymelian-Oleaster-Hastings. 15-2; 1000. MASSACHUSETTS Forrest R. Stone, Browning. . Swordsman, br. 1924, Chicle-Wendy-Peter Pan. 16-1'(z; 1200. Parmelee, ~h. 1924, Polymelian-Fluzey-. 15-3; 1000. John B. Brainerd, Amherst. Forrest R. Stone, Browning. MICHIGAN , br. 1927, Planet-Appolita-8ir Appleby. 15-3; 1035. G. W. Noffsinger, Kalispell. Bulse, ch. 191~. Disgutse-Nethersol~Tournament. 16; 1250. Robert Mandel, ch. 1924, Belloc---Gilt Edge--Cunard. 15-3%; J. W. Wright, . 1000. Forrest R. Stone, Browning. Derring Step, ch. 1921, Derring Doe-True Step-Handsome. Recall, ch. 1922, Argonne-Expectancy-Borgia. 15; 860. J. A. 15-1; 1000. W. S. Wing, Three Rivers. McAllister, McAllister. · MINNESOTA Rockledge, ch. 1922, Half Rock-Mazda--Toddington. 15-2%; Air Chief, ch . . 1926, Pluvious-Risponde-Marta Sanda. 1~2; 1000. J. E. Shaw, Wisdorn. 1120. Robt. A. Rice, Minneapolis. Rosin (Morgan), blk. 1920, Red Oak-Sunset Morgan-Chief Kitcat 2d, b. 1922, Sky Rocket-Cat Cleugh-Wolf's Crag. 16; Morgan. 15-1; 1056. A. M. Moore, Marion. 1150. F. E. Murphy, Minneapolis. Sungleam, b. 1919, Hesperus-Lady Aritta-Emp. of Norfolk. Trevisco, ch. 1914, Tredennis-The Test-John O'Gaunt. 16; 16-Yz ; 1200. Albert Theton, Ennis. 1250. Worrell Clarkson, St. Paul. Tantris (E. Pruss.), ch. 1924, Trinidad-Thalia-Irrivosch :Jl. MISSOURI 16; 1350. E. C. Miller, Norris. Winning His Way, b, 1925, Rameau-Balvatoron-Nealon. Brilliant Cast, ch. 1921, North Star 3d-Macaroon-Marco. 16-%; 15-2 Yz ; 1100. Forrest R. Stone, Browning. 1175. Wm. B. Weakley, Clarksville. Dark , b. 1923, -Ninette-. 16-1; 1100. NEBRASKA Byron Spencer, Kansas City. Despot, ch. 1922, Fl1ttergold-Detine-Trap Rock. 15-3; 1125. Battersea, ch. 1920, Mont d'Or-Sunflower-Rock Sand. 16; Fleet Mount Farms, Allentown. 1200. Albert Lewis, Harrison. Highland Lad (Morgan), ch. 1912, Scotland-Marguerite-White Cockney, ch. 1921, Great Britain-L'Avenir-Rabelais. 16; River. 15-3; 1150. J. C. Thornburg, Galt. 1150. Floyd Lotspeich, Bingham. Pictin, rn. 1922, Wigstone-Altha-Bridge of Allan. 15-2; 1025. Fitzgibbon, br. 1919, Huon-Rosslare-Sempronius. 16-Yz; 1210. C. A. Malsbury, Joplin. Remount Depot, Fort Robinson. Rep, br. 1918, Pictou-Enchantress 2d-Collar. 15-2; 1050. Wll· Friar's Cowl, b. 1924, Friar Dixon-Initiate-Borgia. 15; 1000. bur Freet, Fairfax. T. F. Arnold, Merriman. Richmond's Choice (Saddlebred). br. 1910, Rex Peavine-Diana Frizzle, ch. 1911, Biniou-Frizette-Hamburg. 15-3; 1150. C. J. Mason-King Richard. 15; 1060. Homer F. Teter, Jacksonville. Abbott, Hyannis. ~ococo, b. 1918, Marathon-Miss Lida-Ogden. 15-3; 1100. Phil Hootch, ch. 1922, Polymelian-Home Bird-Thrush. 15-2; 1050. Sale, Gentry. W. M. Anderson, Cody. Scamp, br. 1919, Son·in-Law--Chaucer. 15-3; 1150. John White, br. 1922, The· Finn-Adelaide Royer-Sain. 15-3; H. M. C. Low, Kansas City. 1175. G. L. Payton, Taylor. Scat, b. 1924, Chicle-Sketcl!y-Peter Pan. 16-1%; 1140. W. M. Jupiter, ch. 1920, Ormondale-One Star-Star Shoot. 15-2; Drennon, Kansas City. 1050. D. L. Rogers, Harrison. Tiger Gloss, ch. 1923, Runnymead-Pourquol-Star Shoot. 16-1; Laska, br. 1924, -Dancing Maid-Assagal. 15-2; 1020. 1050. G. S. Tiffany, St. Louts. Wm. M. Greathouse, Whitman. Tom McTaggart, b. 1914, Chuctanunda--Toplash-Top Gallant. Mad River, b. 1909, Ethelbert-Goldie Cad-. 16; 15-3; 1150. Dr. Van H. Bond, Hornersvme. 1150. Remount Depot, Fort Robinson. Marmaduke, ch. 1921, Boots and Saddles-Mae c-Golden Maxim. MONTANA (WEST·CENTRAL ZONE) 15-1; 1000. Wm. Crouse, Hyannis. American Eagle, ch. 1915, The Manager-Star Cat-Star Shoot. Marse Hughes, ch. -1911, Marse Abe-Miss Whitemouse-Bright 15-2% ; 1000. Joe Brown, Birney.· Phoebus. 16; '1175. C. J. Abbott, Hyannis.· , - Ashby, b. 1921, Mediator-Golden -st. Savin. 15-%;· 900: Mentada, ch. 1927, Mentor-Hermada-Adalid. 15-3; 1085. Re· F. Dunning, Ashland. mount Depot, Fort Robinson.

• 2096 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 Mentor, ch. 1906, Blackstock-J..{eta-Onondaga. 16-1; 1160. Mustard Seed, b. 1919, Peter Quince--Alsike--Ben Brush. 15-2; Remount Depot , Fort Robinson. 1100. J. H. Minnick, Cimarron. Montserrat II, br. 1919, Coriander-Monossa-Acclaim. 16; Planter, ch. 1922, Sir Martin-Mallard-star Shoot. 15-3; 1000. 1150. A. F. Bates, Halsey. , D. C. Reynolds, Logan. Qakridge (Morgan}, b. 1917, Red Oak-Roxanna-Rocky Moun- Punjab, br. 1923, Brown Prince II-American Beauty-Uncle. tain. 15-1; 1050. C. J. Abbott, Hyannis. · 15-2 ~ ; 1100. F. C. De Baca, jr., Bueyeros. Orient (Morgan), b . 1921, Troubadour-Gertrude. 15-1; 1075. Pyx, br. 1917, Pataud~kitau-Planudes. 15-3; 1050. J. H. J. L. Chamberlain, North Plat te. Minnick, Cimarron. Paavo, blk. ·1923, The Finn-Planutess-Planudes. 15-3; 1120. Reno Alve, ch. 1925, Honolulu Boy-Ogeechee-Gaylad Jr. 15; Remount Depot, Fort Robinson. 950. W. S. Crousen, Colfax. Pines Emblem, br. 1920, Black Pie--May Peep-Peep o'Day. 16; Rob, ch. 1919, -Panlita--Panmure. 16-%; 1100. J. H. 1000. Ed. Huffman, Hyannis. Minnick, Cimarron. Ray Jay, b. 1919, Assagai-Romange--. 15-3; 1150. Royal Jester, blk. 1917, Black Jester-Primula II-8t. Denis. F. G. Snyder, Broadwater. 15-1%; 1000. L. A. Kirk, Crown Point. · Snap Dragon II, b. 1915, Fritz Herbert--Mistress Penn-. Rumpelmayer, br. 1925, Dark Ronald-RolUngmuhle--Ard Pat­ 15-3; 1025. Harry Minor, Hyannis. rick. 15-3%; 1050. J. M. Shelton, Alamogordo. Southern Cross, br. 1919, Luke McLuke-Pamphyle--Robert le Rustam (Arab), ch. 1922, El Bulad.:_Rhua-Haleb. 14-2; 900. Diable. 16; 1140. Remount Depot, Fort Robinson. N. Luciani, Raton. Survivor, ch. 1924, Trompe le Mort--Rosaleen-Mont d'Or. 15-3; Frank, br. 1911}, Honeywood-Lady Trinity-star Shoot. 1000. J. S. Mainard, Mitchell. 15-3; 1100. N. W. Myrick, Ricardo. Tangara, br. 1922, Light Brigade--Tanagra-Ben Brush. 16-1; Shillelagh II, b. 1917, Irish Lad-Artless-Hamburg. 15-2¥2 ; 1200. W. M. Anderson, Cody. 1000. VI. H. Driggers, Santa Rosa. NEVADA Sitar (Arab), ch. 1920, Sinbad-8imawa--Rustem. 14-2% ; 900. V. Culberson, Silver City. Adalito, br. 1920, Adalid-Nellita-Cruzados. 15-1; 1000. G. Tiff, ch. 1923, Hessian--Dispute--Friar Rock. 15-2; 1000. J. R. Scheer, Wells. Jenkins, Carono . .adevo, b. 1920, Adalid-El Cheva--Rey el Santa Anita. 15-2; 1050. Don Maestretti, Austin. NEW YORK Burke's Boy, br. 1923, -Eleusinia--Isidor. 15-3; Alumeur, b. 1911, Meddler-strike-a-Light IT-Donovan. 16-%; 1000. Ruth Wiseman De Remer, Wells. 1110. Genesee Valley Breeding Association, Avon. Charles B. Hall, br. 1925, Donnaconna--Fritter-Dlck Finnell. Brumado, ch. 1916, Maintenon-Brume-Prestige. 16-2~; 1220. 15-2; 920. R. M. Steele, Wells. Genesee Valley Breeding Association, Avon. Desmond's Day, br. 1913, Desmond-Palmy Days-Trenton. 16; El Sabok (Arab), ch. 1916, El Jafil-Narkeesar--Anaseh. 15-1 ~ ; 1200. Seneca Weeks, Wells. 900. Barron G. Collier, Pocantico Hills. Dewey (Morgan}, b. 1910, General Gates-Mrs. Culvers-Harrison Gold Bug, b. 1921, BrooiilStick-Golden Rod-All Gold. 15-2; Chief. 15-1; 1050. Clark· Ringling, Winnemucca. 1070. N.Y. N. G. Breeding Farm, Huntington, L. I. Fullon, ch. 1920, Friar Rock-Miss Borgia-Mortlake. 15-3 V2; Hamilkar (E. Prus.J, ch. 1920, Haselhorst-Hlrtensage--Fischer­ 1000. R. T. Anderson, Metropolis. knabe. 16-1; 1110. LeWis Hirshon, Goldens Bridge. · Our Watch, b. 1924, On Watch-Zaza-Hessian. 16-1; 1050. Joe Marrone II, ch. 1921, Glencairn-Ringling-Fatherless. 15-3; 0. F. Boies, O'Neil. 1150. Sqn. A. Armory, N. Y. N. G., New York City. Rey El Pleasanton, ch. 1.915, Rey --Margie D-Golden Laplander, blk. 1922. The Finn-Black Swan-Herbert, 16; Garter. 16-1; 1300. Henry Garat, Whiterock. 1065. The Jockey Club, Glen Head, L. I. Rifie Shooter, b. 1913, Star Shoot-Babbie--. 15-2; Lough Foyle, b. 1911, Lochryan-Cannera-Benanus. 16; 1300. 1125._ Walter Glaser, Halleck. Genesee Valley Breeding Association, Avon. Right on Time, b. 1920, Jack Atkin-8usan Lenox-Hendsel. Northcliff, ch. 1919, Sea King-Doris-Ogden. 16-%; 1075. 1.5-3; 970. Samuel Davis, Hobson. Genesee Valley Breeding Association, Avon. Sandhurst, br. 1922, -8andria-8andringham. 16-1; 950. Red Mulligan, ch. 1920. Little Dutch-Cloistress-Carlton E. R. Marvel, Battle Mountain. Grange. 16; 1150. Donald AriilStrong, Syracuse. Sporting King, b. 1925, Sporting Blood-Grace King-Judge NORTH CAROLINA Wright. 15-3; 1050. C. A. Sewell, Owyhee. Double Cross, ch. 1919, Superman-Olevia--Qrnus. 16-1; 1130. White Shield, ch. 1912, St. Maxim-Louise Wood-King Eric. J. E. Condrey, Scotland Neck. 15-2~; 1200. Lee Hylton, Jiggs. NORTH DAKOTA NEW HAMPSHIRE Battle Cry, b. 1921, War Call-Beetle Bug-sweep. 15-3; 1100. Ribal (Arab}, ch. 1920,-Berk-Rijm.a-Rijm. 14-3V2; 998. W. R. Standing Rock Indian Reservation, Fort Yates. Brown, Berlin. Beachcomber, br. 1911, Rock Sand-Fairy Slipper-st. Serf. NEW JERSEY 16-3; 1350. Standing Rock Indian Reservation, l"ort Yates. Acropolis, ch. 1927, Short Grass-Grecian Bend-Blues. 15-3; Captain Mosie, b. 1926, Bet Mosie--Benny Daugherty-Capt. 1000. Edward C. Rose, Trenton. Daugherty. 15-2; 1050. Standing Rock Indian Reservation, Fort Gems to Let, ch. 1924, Parisian Diamond-Letty Lind-Quan­ Yates. teck, 16-()% ; 1100. A. L. Haskell, Red Bank. Doual (Morgan} , b. 1921, Dot-Daisy K-Headlight Morgan. 15; Tallwood, b. 1923, Campfire-Pixy-Peter Pan. 15-2V2; 1040. 1100. J . W. Neuens, Medora. Thos. J. ~acauley, Farmingdale. Fun Maker, b. 1922, Spur-Jest-Ben Brush. 15-3; 1100. Stand­ ing Rock Indian Reservation, Fort Yates. NEW MEXICO Harbinger, br. 1924, Eternal-Grace Harban-Duke of . Bachelor's Bliss, blk. 1914, Tredennis-Lady Black-Le Noir. 15-1; 1000. Standing Rock Indian Reservation, Fort Yates. 15-2; 1050. J. A. Black, Santa Rosa. Ganawood, ch. 1924, Ganadore-Fernwood-Bard of Hope. 15-3; Babka (Arab), ch. 1921, Mahon-Bacliile--Kadi Keny. 14-2~; 1100. Standing Rock Indian Reservation, Fort Yates. 925. J. C. Prude, Hope. Kind Man, b. 1924, Paragon 2d-Mable Strauss-Uncle. 15-2; Balustrade, b . 1916, Hanbridge-Oriental Queen-Greenan. 1100. J. W. Neuens, Medora. 15-2; 1030. J. V. Tully, Glencoe. Lad O'Mine, b. 1922, Torchbearer-sly Wink-Mordant. 15-3; Botanic, b. 1923, Braxted-Auctioneering-Le Blizon. 16-1; 1100. 1100. R. G. Montgomery, Cogswell. Dean Johnson, McGaffey. Semper, b. 1922, Alvescot-Semprite-sempronius. 16; 1100. Chappaqua Junior, ch. 1914, Chappaqua-Yrsula-Anchorite. Standing Rock Indian Reservation, Fort Yates. 15-3 Y:z; 1200. I. K. Westbrook, Crown Point. omo French Canadian, ch. 1920, Pataud- Light-Disguise. Better Still, ch. 1919, North Star m-sweet Alice-Flying Dutch­ 15-3; 1000. C. M. O'Donel, Bell Ranch. man. 15-2; 1100. John W. Milet, Cincinnati. Gadar (Arab), ch. 1920, Abu Zeyd-Guemura-Begario. 14-1; Magic Orb, ch. 1925, Flying Orb-Magic Bird-Marcoval. 15-2; 900. F. W. Lee, Albuquerque. 1070. Julius Fleischmann, Blue Ash. Half Pint, b. 1922, Spanish Prince II-Norumbega-Btar Shoot. The Bohemian, br. 1918, Jim Gaffney-Kittenish-Roquelaure. 15-3; 1100. Ed Springer, Cimarron. _ 16-1; 1183. E. S. Thacher, Columbus. H. T. Waters, ch. 1921, Polymelian-Lady Winsome--Meddler. 16; 1100. M. P. Renfroe, Fort Sumner. OKLAHOMA Judicial, ch. 1923, McGee--Bonny noon-Prince of Melbourne. Alex Jr., ch. 1923, Ballot-Bronzewing-stalwart. 15-%; 11-20. 16; 1050. F. W. Hartley, Miera. Jos. Lessert, Ponca City. Keen Eye, ch. 1925, Eyebrow-Kena-Bealberg. 1~1¥2; 1000. Bachelor's Honor, ch: 1925, Bachelor's Double-Bayora--Bayardo. G. F. Billings, Roswell. · 15-3%; 1080. M. H. Derdeyn, Pernell. La Orb, ch. 1920, Orb-La Luz--Lieber Karl. 16; 1100. T. P. Barracuda, ch. 1919, Trap Rock-Balancoire-Ethelbert. 15-1%; Talle, Vermejo Park. 1000. B. G. Rogers, Grand. Lucky D, blk. 1927, All Gold-Montrose Belle--Pataud. 16-1; Barrier, b. 1920, Madman-Elasticity-Aeronaut. 15-2%; 1120. 1100. T. J. Sutherland, Roswell. G. H. Jones, Walters. Madder Music, br. 1924, Leonardo IT-Helen Marie--Stalwart. Beau Geste, ch. 1924, -sand Dune-Rock Sand. 16-%; 1000. Hiram Dow, Roswell. _15-3Y:z; 1000. W. B. Core, Hominy. Man of Honor, b. 1915, Deering-Miss Cornet--Peter McCue. Belcross, blk. 1921, Rock View--8alnv1lle-Sain. 15-2; 1000. 15-3; 1000. E. E. Joy, Elk. J. C. Jacks, Grand. Meredith (Morgan), ch. 1919, Sealskin-Helen Gates-General Bit Bolder, ch.1919, Cunard-Winning Widow-Mexican. 16-2%; Gates. 14-3; 900. E. W. WilliaiilS, Clovis. 1200. A. A. Drummond, Hominy.

• 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2097

Brave Bob, br . .1922, -Lady -Eager. 16; Havana Boy, b. 1921, Spearmin~acred Ibis-Gallinule. · 1110. Harry Clark, Boise. 15-2¥2; 1000. Joseph Thompson, Hereford. Captain Relay, b. 1925, Relay-Pearl Arnold-Capt. Arnold. Magistrate (Morgan), ch. 1919, Sealskin-Folly-Bennington. 15-2; 900. J. G. Salisbury, Vic!. 15-%; 870. Scott Conley Davis, Watson. Clean Gone, b. 1916, Olambala-Lizzie Gllman-. 15--3; Meteorite, ch. 1914. Star Shoo~Hamburg Belle-Hamburg. 1120. H. T. Jarvis, Fairfax. . 15-3; 1090. H. H. Trowbridge, John Day. Docod, ch. 1916, Voorhees~Love of Gold-Goldfinch. 15-1; Policeman Day, ch. c. 1924, Johren-Last Nigh~Ultimus. 15-2; 1000. Roy Woodman, Gould. 1040. Scott Conley Davis, Watson. · Eagle Chief, br. 1926, Krippen-Verdun Belle-Dr. Root. 15-2; Saga Fow, blk. c. 1926, Sweep-Miss Jazbo-Waterboy. 15-1¥.!; 1000. John J. Harris, CUshing. 1000. Frank Houston, Millican. El Chedal, ch. 1923, Adalid-El Cheva-Rey e1 Santa Anita. Sam Tangle, br. 1917, Flotsam ill-Tangle II-Merman. 15-2; 15-3; 1000. P. E. Anderson, Anadarko. 1025. Linn Holcomb, Richland. Feuerbach (East Prus.), br. 1924, Rembrand~Fabula-Ver­ Swing Knight, ch. 1924, Swing Loo~Dora Knigh~Beknighted. sucher. 16-1; 1250. T. C. Chapman, Seiling. 15-2; 1075. R. M. Harkness, Sisters. Flitlow, ch. 1921, Flittergold-Loriotta-Lochryan. 16-1%; 1230. Umbrella, ch. 1923. Trap Rock-shade-Bryn Mawr. 15--3; L. C. Giles, . 1050. R. J. Stanbro, Prairie City. Gay Ronald, b. 1921, Gay -Port Sunligh~undrldge. Uncas, b. 1916, Wyeth-Codex-Wadsworth. 15-3%; 9'i0. c. E. 15-3; 1050. E. D. Dubois, Gracemont. Boor, Ironside. Greencomber, blk. 1922, Beach Comber-Elsie Green-Bowling PENNSYLVANIA Green. 15-3¥2; 1120. H. 0. Dubois, Gracemont. Bah's Boy, ch. 1920, Ecouen-Fille-de-Guerre--Ajax. _16-%; Honolulu Boy, ch. 1915, Salvation-Zorita-certto II. 15-3; 1040. E. B. Chase, Radnor. 1090. J. D. Thomas, Arnett. Destreza, br. 1923, J. F. Crowley-Blooming Posey-st. Savin. John Hager, ch. 1921, Beaverkill-Rose Ring-Hippodrome. 16; 1125. A. Hunter Willis, Erie. 15-3, 1000. R. M. Williams, Grand. . Fitzrue, ch. 1920, Fitzwilliam-Mary Street-Onondaga. 16-2; Lafe M, b. 1920, John A. Sco~Pearl Masher-Uncle Henry. 1205. E. C. Deubler, Newtown (Bucks County). 16-1; 1150. Joe Watson, Wynona. K.ha.llfa, b. 1924, Light Brigade-Madras-Ben Brush. 15-3; Lamp, ch. 1923, Ada.lid-Mary Josephine-Transvaal. 15; 1030. 1000. Gilbert Mather, West Chester. J. 0. Kuyrkendall, Atoka. Melllfont, b. 1911, St. Brendan-Meldhr~. 16-1; Laurentian II, ch. 1916, St. Amant-Caroline Roche-. 1100. R. L. Montgomery, Villanova. 15--314; 1060. R. E. Baker, Berlin. Mizar, b. 1919, Dick Welles-Milky Way-star Shoot. 16-2; Lida.Io, b. 1922, Adalid-Nellita---Cruzados. 15-2%; 1160. R. L. 1100. Milton G. Potter, Dalton. Donelson, Burbank. Out the Way, br. 1915, Peter Pan--Bweepaway-Wlld Mint. Lion d'Or, ch. 1916, Reno-Aile d'Or---Capt. Hancock. 16; 1250. 16-1; 1290. David B. Sharp, Berwyn. Raymond Smith, Guymon. Plato II, br. 1918, Polymelus-Mesange--. 16-2%: Lord Meise, b. 1923, Ormondale-Margaret Meise-Star Shoot. 1100. Wm. J. Clothier, Phoen1xville. 15-2; 1000. Reno Q. M. Depot, Fort Reno. Luchsinger, b. 1915, Dan Gold-Miss Sayre-Sayre. 16-%; 1100. PORTO RICO W. M. Pursley, Rush Springs. , Gha.yr (Arab), gr. 1924. Astra.led-Guemura.. 14-2Y2; 800. Cen- Martello, ch. 1921, Martinet:-Hostillty--Bt. Blaise. 15-1; 1050. tra.I Aguirre Sugar Co., Central Agu.iire. W. A. Carlisle, Cherokee. SOUTH CAROLINA Military System, br. 1916, Poor Boy-Maud Annie-Evicted. 15-2; 1100. Nelson J. Sisson, Cleo Springs. Muldoon, br. 1922, Cataract-Ophelia W.-Bryn Mawr. 15-2%: North Pole, ch. 1922, North Star ill-Mixed Color-Hastings. 1100. H. H. Coleman, Switzerland. 15-3, 1000. Chas. L. Reed, Alva. SOUTH DAKOTA Optimist, br. 1921, Tracy le Val-Optimo-Willonyx. 16-1%; Bone Dry, b. 1917, Beachcomber- Mowbray-Melton. 1200. Reno Q. M. Depot, Fort Reno. 16-2; 1300. 0. Balo, Spearfish. otiro, b. 1922, Norito-Reina de Hampton-sir Hampton. 15-2; Brilliant Jester, br. 1917, Black Jester-Lady Brlllian~un­ 1110. Wm. Francis, Elk City. dridge. 15-3; 1100. Pierre Polo Club, Pierre. Over Lord, ch. 1924, Superman-Gloucester-Glorifier. 16-1; Broad Silk, ch. 1925, Bondage-Biddy McGee-McGee. 15-3; 1215. Reno Q. M. Depot, Fort Reno. 1100. Hans Fogh, Strool. Over There, br. 1916, Spearmin~umm.er Girl--Bundridge. Colonel Rivers, ch. 1922, Alvesco~Himera-Goldcrest. 16-1; 16-Y2 ; 1175. Reno Q. M. Depot, Fort ~eno. 1200. Hans Fogh, Strool. Pastoureau, br. 1916, Flint Rock-Prickley Pear-Persimmon. Dinter (E. Prus.), ch. 1924, Diebitsche--Morena-Mortemer. 16; 15--3; 1025. Fred Graves, Pawhuska. 1180. Clyde Jones, Hermosa. Pogonip, b. 1922. Atheling II-Orange Blossom-Joe Carey. 16; Denny, Cooney, blk. 1925, Sweep-IDndoo-Dress-Delhi. 16; 1200. S. J. Cole, Gate City. 1050. Pierre Polo Club, Pierre. Prince , ch. 1910, Hermis--Crimea-. 15-2; 1050. Don, b. 1926, Mustard Seed-Ka.ffi.r Queen-Ka.ffi.r. 15--3; 1070. Reno Q. M. Depot, Fort Reno. Henry Brickley, Hermosa. Rambling Brook, ch. 1921, Clysmic-Annie Olln-Nanki Pooh. Drowsy Waters, br. 1922, Cataract-Bronzewing--Bta.Iwart. 15-3; 15-3,4; 1000. Henry F. Polson, Wilburton. 1150. Pierre Polo Club, Pierre. Recluse, b. 1913, Von Tromp-Isolation-George Kessler. 16-1; Dr. Swartz, b. 1923, Sweep-Toucane~Vulcain. 15-2; 1100. 1100. R. E. Boggess, Ochelata. Pierre Polo Club, Pierre. Recommendation, br. 1920, Atheling II---Compose--Honeywood. Esperalid, b. 1924. Adalld-Esperi~Norito. 15-1; 1000. Pierre 16-1; 1100. Ike Conner, Lawton. Polo Club, Pierre. Reno Aleck, ch. 1925, Trial by Jury---Chantlette---. 15-1; Fahid (Arab), ch. 1923, Sargon-Balkls 2d-El Hassen. 15-1; 1000. Frank Alton, Claremore. 950. A. E. Himman, Rapid City. Reno Bay, b. 1926, Capt. Ray-Flora. McGinn-Gold Heels. 15; Gamll, br. 1917, Myram-Bustler-Eager. 16-1; 1200. Pierre 1050. W. A. Bannister, Sentinel. Polo Club, Pierre. Reno Commander, ch. 1927, Reidalid-Repa~Wax Taper. . 15; Gebhat AI Nour (Arab), br. 1923, Sidi-Hazen. 14-3; 950. 950. A. & M. College, Stillwater. Pierre Polo Club, Pierre. Reno Commodore, b. 1927, Sharnbrook-Marjor1e-Mlgnon­ IDda.lgo, br. 1922, Spanish Prince 2nd-Minuet-Olambala. 15-2; Bard of Hope. 15-2lh; 1000. J. L. Crotzer, . 1000. Pierre Polo Club, Pierre. Rickety, ch. 1914, Broomstick-Queen of Hearts-Hamburg. Mada.lid, br. 1923, Adalld-La Madre-Cruzados. 15-1; 1075. 16-%; 1100. Reno Q. M. Depot, Fort Reno. Art Shoemaker, Hermosa. Sirdar, b. 1925, Sweep-Dark Lantern-Disguise. 15-2; 1000. Mark Master, br. 1922, Luke McLuke-Yermilla-Jack Atkin . • T. C. Chapman, Seiling. 15-3; 1100. Mackey Bros., Buffalo. Skald, ch. 1924, Adlford-Musk-Myram. 15-3 Y2; 1050. E. D. Midnight Watch, blk. 1925, On Watch-Roll On-Fairy King. Mabey, Dunlap. 15-3; 1025. Mackey Bros., Buffalo. Slipa.Iong, ch. 1918, Ballo~Hazzaza---Cunard. 16-2; 1150. C. S. Needle Gun, ch. 1922, Under Fire-Stitch in Time-Dalhousie. Thomas, Lawton. 16; 1125. E. A. Young, Dewey. Starray, ch. 1924, Henrie-Sudha-Fashion Plate. 15--3; 1020. Pharaoh, br. 1908, Meddler-Hatasoo-Albert. 15--3; 1050. Westheimer ·& Daube, Ardmore. }Ienry Brickley, Hermosa. The Roll Call, ch. 1919, Lough Foyl~Beth Stanley-Golden Robbia Della (Morgan), blk. 1921, Red Oak-Bonnie B-The Maxim. 15-3; 1050. F. M. Burks, Weatherford. Admiral. 15-2; 1100. G. I. Towne, Leslie. Tim O'Brien, ch. 1924, Sir John Johnson-Bettie Louis~Uncle. Sidereal, ch. 1919, Star Shoot-Old Squaw-Adam. 15-2; 1000. 15-2; 1000. Chas. W. Flint, Tulsa. Pierre Polo Club, Pierre. Voormel, blk. 1918, Voorhees-Formella-Brutus. 15--3; 1050. Skyraker, ch. 1916, Willonyx-Mountain Jewel---Cyllene. 16-3; Geo. H. Hallock, Regnier. 1300. A. B. Tyler, Pierre. Young Martin, ch. 1922, Sir Martin-His Sister-Uncle. 16-1; The Dictator, b. 1919, Dodge-Lipstick--Bunfiower 2d. 15-3; 1125. C. D. Shupe, Buffalo. 1050. John Aaberg, Hot Springs. OREGON War Note, ch. 1916, Spanish Prince 2nd--Bun Maiden--Bundridge. 15-3; 1075. A. C. Frame, Reliance. Bludgeon, ch. 1925, CUdgel-Lady Lys--Bunstar. 15-3; 1050. Homer Bidwell. North Powder. TENNESSEE Captain Donan, blk. 1922, Moss Fox-Crestwood Girl-Trans­ Beau Galant, b. 1924, Light Brigade-Batlle--Peter Quince. vaal. 15-1 ¥.z; 1000. Herbert Thompson, Pendleton. 16-%; 1150. CoL Luke Lea, Nashville. LXXIV--133 ·2098 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13

. TEXAS Elm, ch. 1922, Rosturtium-King Belle-King Olympian. 14-3; Anticipate, b. 1917, Plaudit-Antipathy-Ornament. 15-2; 1100. 975. Alley Mayes, Big Lake. Paterson & Rieck, Roosevelt. Elmendorf, b. 1915, Ballot-Dlscipline-Greenan. 15-3; 1100. Avondale, ch. 1923, Belloe-Arogance-Golden Maxim. 15-2Y2; Bierschwale Bros., Comfort. 1100. Howard C. Smith, Mason. Esquire, b. 1918, Meridian-Daruma-8olitaire II. 15-37'2; 1100. Baalbec, b. 1922, -Istar-Von Tromp. 15-3; 1020. Geo. R. Whitehead, Del Rio. D. W. Snyder, Corpus Christi. Esteem, br. 1923, Huon-Admiration-Ogden. 16-2; 1125. Frank Baltus, b. 1926, Polygnotus-Bouton de Nacre-Bachelors But­ Baker, San . ton. 15-Y2; 950. Ed Rachel, Falfurrias. Fayette C, ch. 1915, Fayette-Rose Queen-Kingston. 14-2; 960. Bat 'Em Out, ch. 1923, James P. Sil

Niwad (Arab), br. 1921, Janissary-Najine-Garaveen. 14-2~; Aldeano, b. 1924, AI Bloch-Edith Inez-Jack Point. 15-2; 1060. 960. Oscar Appelt, San Angelo. , H. C. Perkins, Blanding. No Knox, ch. 1926, Setback-Our Kitty-Bro. Compton. 15-2; Ben Royal, ch. 1915, Flis-Rosebud III-Rosewater. 15-3; 1150. 1100. J. R. Hewitt, San Angelo. C. VI. Bailey, Escalante. North America, ch. 1925, North Star ill-Viva America-McGee. Blue Fire, b. 1924, Underfire-Blue Ball-Hastings. 15-3; 1050, 16--%; 1050. C. F. Cox, jr., Marathon. W. R. Probert, Ibapah. Nuyaka, ch. 1920, Dick Finnell-Annie . Williams-Lazzarone. Canmore, b. 1920, Marathon-Canice-Bridge of Canny. 15-3; 16-%; 1050. C. F. Cox, jr., Marathon. 1150. J. W. Smoot, Deseret. Oakwood (Morgan), b. 1921, Troubadour of Willowmoor-Folly­ Canmore, jr., b. 1925, Canmore-Drucy B-Chaffinch. ??-?; 1185. Bennington. 15-2; 1100. T. B. Caldwell, jr., Mount Pleasant. Bert Snow, St. George. · Oklahoma Tom, br. 1920, Dr. Root-Oklahoma-Chant. 15; 950. Clever Seth, b. 1921, Seth-Pickaniny-Cesarion. 15-3; 1100. Jack Brown, Truscott. Hyrum Walker, Farmington. Pablo, ch. 1921, Glencairn-Caraquet-Bryn Mawr. 16; 1280. Cragsman, b. 1920. -Bleasdale-Martagon. 15-2¥2; W. H. Taylor, Pontotoc. 1000. D. N. Murdock, Hebert City. Palmist, b. 1923, Golden Sun-Palmella-. 16--~; 1080. Dr. Henry, ch. 1922, Marse Henry-My Nurse-David Tenny. Frank B. Seale, Benchley. 15; 1000. R. L. Fenton, Parowan . . Panover, ch. 1925, Panhandler-Fringe-Frizzle. 15-2; 1000. Edgewater, ch. 1925, Rapid Water-Alberta H-Handspring. Forrest C. Whitehead, Del Rio. 15-3¥2; 1000. A. P. Spilsbury, Cedar City. Piegan, b. 1926, Polymelian-Jacoba-Jack Atkin. 15-1%; 1000. Elisha Lee, ch. 1923. Delhi-Lady Britain-the Commoner. Frank Ingram, Midland. 15-3; 1190. George Henderson, Joseph. , Pot O'Gold, br. 1926, Pagan Pan-Rainbow Division-Stalwart. Eminent, ch. 1921, the Manager-Little Daughter-Ogden. 15-2; 15-1; 1000. Franklin Bros., Christine. 1070. Charles Redd, La Sal. Pride of India, b. 1916, Delhi-Dominoe!T-Domino. 16--Y:z; 1175. Fasching, b. 1925, Dark Ronald-Falada-Captivation. 15-2%; Joe Howell, Wimberley. 1000. Hugh Colton, Vernal. Ragman, b. 1924, McGee-Sweepings-Sweep. 15-2Y:z; 1000. Funny Face, ch. 1924, Short Cut-Glen Grier-Glenthorn. 15; J. J. Koonsman, Snyder. 1000. Reed W. Warnick, Pleasant Grove. Rashid (Arab), b. 1822, Sidl-Ramin-Berk. 14-3; 910. Frank Grazer, b. 1924, Grosvenor-Willaisa-Willonyx. 15-1¥2; 925. P. Wood, Victoria. Arthur Lightner, Minersville. Relay, b. 1919, Assagai-Doll-Sir Geo.ffrey. 15-2Y:z; 1035. R. S. Hardwood, br. 1923, Broomstlck-Duckshot-Galllnule. 15-3; Waring, San Angelo. 1050. Elmer Carling, Fillmore. Ridgway, br. 1925, Wrack-Whizz Bang-Sunstar. 15-2Y:z; 1000. Hernlis Kemble, ch. 1919. Prince Hermis-Fanny Kemble-Sem­ Henry W. Schlittler, jr., Graham. pronius. 15-3; 1050. John Rogerson, Panguitch. Rig Veda, b. 1922, Yverdon-Ravigote-Childwlck. 15-3~; 1000 Irish King, ch. 1923, Irish Exile-Alessia-Doctor Leggo. 15-3; B. C. Hendrick, Odessa. 1050. Alex Findlay, Kanab. Robespierre (Morgan), ch. 1920, Red Oak-Bessie C.-The Ad­ J. G. Bickel, b. 1922, Alvescot-Marna-Sempronius. 16; 1050. miral. 15-Y:z; 1000. Jim B. Hamilton, Normangee. Francis N. Mortenson, Ephraim. Rosario II, b. 1922, Faucheur-Rosanne-Saint Ange 3rd. 15-3; Kangaroo, b. 1915. Fling Rock-King's Favorite-Hanover. 1030. Hartley Easley, Crowell. 15-2%; 1050. T. B. Parker, Richfield. Royal Ease, gr. 1926, Royal Canopy-Lazy Lady-Sea King. Leather Breeches, ch. 1925, -Peep O'Dawn-Peep 15-2; 1000. J. H. Minnick, Foard City. O'Day. 16--1Y:z; 1150. Wm. Roylance, North Ogden. Run Dor, b. 1924, Runflor-Lady Dorinet-Colinet. 15-2; 1000. Lieutenant Hixon. ch. 1916, Borghesi-Polandia-St. Sympharien. Pfetferling Bros., San Antonio. 15-2; 1100. J. H. Singleton, Gandy. Runflor, ch. 1918, Runnymede-Handsome Florry-Handsome. Mac Lean, b. 1921, Meelick-Dona Hamilton-Donald A. 16; 15-2; 1050. W. L. Fisher, Marfa. 1050. J. Leo Seely, Mount Pleasant. Runningwild, ch. 1921, Olambala-Sunburst-Banastar. 16--l.Y:z; Manulani, br. 1924, Frolic-Waipuna-. 15-%; 1000. 1100. Mrs. Phil C. Gri.tfin, Goldsboro. R. E. L. Kenner, Manti. Sangan, ch. 1923, Long Tongue-Repentant-Migraine. 15-2; Marse Henry, br. 1913, Ben Brush-Nun's Cloth-Melton. !6; 1025. W. R. Davis, Sterling City. 1200. S. L. Aiken, Castle Dale. S. Bryce Wing, b. 1922, Till Johnson-Kickapoo Lass-Deutsch­ Multnomah, br. 1913, Bearcatcher-Marcia A-St. Carlo. 15-3; land. 15-1; 1000. S. S. Millspaugh, Ozona. 1150. Ernest Warburton, Etna. Shilling, ch. 1917, Seth-Alice Commoner-The Commoner. Nigahdar (Arab), b. 1920, Rodan-Nanda-Garaveene. 15; 1000. 15-2; 1020. Hugh Buie, Beeville. L. A. Stookey, Clover. Sign of Time, ch. 1926, Champlain-Sister Emblem-Ballot. 15; Oxalic Jess, ch. 1915, Collector Jessup-My Nurse-David Tenny. 900. W. B. Johnson, Crowell 15; 1100. Travus Olsen, Rochester. Silhouette, ch. 1922, James P. Silo-Bartie-Valeat. 15-2%; Padraic, ch. 1917, Belloc-Anna Patrlcia-Ormondale. 15-2¥2; 1080. Joe Stocks, Tankersly. 1050. B. Grant, Honeyville. Slice, b. 1922, Spanish Prince II-Watermelon-Watercress. Pas De Calais II, ch. 1919, Bachelor's Double-Hot Water Bag­ 16--1; 1075. Bud Bennett, Dalhart. Mackintosh. 16; 1000. Vern Allred, Roosevelt. Soldier True, ch. 1922, Trap Rock-Federal Girl-Ultimus. 16--1; Pirate Chief, br. 1925, Brigand-Hadfield-Fariman. 15-3¥2; 1100. J. M. Treadwell, Menard. 1025. Dr. L. D. Stewart, Payson. Sunny Jim, b. 1918, Friar Rock-Lucy M-Hamburg. _ 16; 1050. Sailing B., b. 1918, Trap Rock-Pecadillo-Hastings. 15-2%; J. P. Miller, Coleman. 1150. Earl Snow, Orangeville. . Teeke, ch. 1926, Setback-Novice-Dr. Bailey; 15-1; 1000. A. D. Sasper, b. 1921, Master Robert-Miss Cynthia-Joe Carey. 16--3; Dodson, Snyder. 1000. Jess Barton, Greenville. Thaine, ch. 1922, Big Boy-Blanche Ring-Madalo. 15-1~; 1020. Stone Bell, b. 1921, Wigstone-Bella H-Ballot. 15-3; 1000. F. Eugene H. Linthicum, Barnhart. Marion Guymon, Huntington. Theo Dunman, b. 1918, Meelick-Kitty Smith-Jack Point. 15-2; The Tailor, ch. 1924, Atwell-Lady Colonist-. 15-2Y:z. 1050. John P. Lee, Tankersly. Remount stable awaiting assignment. The Pine, b. 1924, Cudgel-Audience-Sir Dixon. 15-3%; 1050. Tilrite, ch. 1925, Meteorite-Time Brille-Rightful. 15-3; 1000. Reid Bros., Fort Davis. . D. H. Livingston, Delta. The Tramp, br. 1921, The Finn-Kate Adams-Martinet. 15-3Y:z; VERMONT 1050. S. D. Harmon, Alpine. Walhalla, b. 1924. Verwood~Walkyria-Charles O'Malley. Till Johnson, br. 1917, Orbicular-Rose of -Cesarion. 15-2~; 900. Augustus Van Cortlandt, jr., Brandon. 15-1%; 1175. J. E. Henderson, jr., San Angelo. Tom Green, br. 1921, Atkins-Nairn-Sidney Lucas. 15-1 ~; vmGINIA 1050. Pat Webb, Crosbyton. Angel Jim, ch. 1908, Tarquin-Guil1anar-Ragotsky or Loudun. Top 0' The Morn, b.1925, Roderick II-Child of Dawn-Strephon. 16; 1045. For depot use. Front Royal Q. M. Depot. 15-3; 1000. G. W. White, Tuscola. Ben Gow, b. 1915, -Friction-St. Gris. 16--Y:z; 1200. Tornado Wheel, b. 1924, Balance Wheel-Babe Bemish-Phelan Otto Furr, Middleburg. Dorian. 15; 1000. J. B. Chilton, jr., Encinal. Body Guard, b. 1920, Golden Maxim-Melisande-Disguise. Toyland, ch. 1923, Peter Pan-Lucrative-Mordant. 16; 1020. 16; 1025. G. A. Randolph, North Garden. J. E. Renfroe, Menard. Botanical, ch. 1926, North Star III-Bed of Roses-Cunard. Vioto, b. 1922, Norito-Cheviota-Rey el Santa Anita. 15-Y:z; 16--1; 1080. C. T. Field, Lee Hall. 1100. J. L. Custer, Spotford. Breast Plate, ch. 1923, Olambala-Sunburst-Banastar. 16--1~; Westerman, br. 1918, -Supposition-Sir Dixon. 15-2%; 1000. T. W. Utterback, Markham. 1000. Mrs. Gertrude Pursley, Jayton. Brian Boy, gr. 1922, Royal Canopy-Corveno-Laveno. 16; . Yankee Star, br. 1919, Star Shoot-Yankee Lady-Yankee. 15-3; 1145. B. G. Ray, Happy Creek. 1000. J. C. Penn, Mercury. Cannon Shot, br. 1921, War Shot-Purer-Sir Dixon. 16-2; Zonite, br. 1924, Donnacona-Zonia-Blarney. 15--2~; 1000. 1140. S. L. Larrabee, Warrenton. Dickie Bros., Woodson Cant Kost, b. 1916. Cantilever-Koster Girl-Gonsalvo. 16--1; UTAH 1100. M. M. Washington, Nokesville. Achill, b. 1920, Achtol-Belle Isle-Sunder. 15-3; 1050. Archer Captain Hershler, b. 1917, The Manager-Fleeting Fashion­ Huff, Spanish Fork. Hamburg. 16--~; 1170. 0. B. Dowden, Orleans. _ Adalid, ch. 1910, Amigo-Lady Diamond-Emp. of Norfolk. Dan IV, ch. 1918, Ex Voto-Deihadarra-chatillon. 16--2; 1210. 15-3; 1150. R. L. Fenton, Paro'W'an. For depot use. Front Royal Q. M. Depot.

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2100 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 I / Dark Demon, b. 1924, Son-in-Waw-Mllva-Gost. 16-2; 1200. Star Hampton, ch. 1916; Star Shoot-Dorothy Hampton-Ro'yat Sam Clatterbuck, Dayton. Hampton. 15-2Y2; 1100. Dr. B. L. Traynham, Sweet Spring~. Devil Dog, b. 1917, Darley Dale-Mountain Fringe-Atlas. 16; WISCONSIN 1000. J. E. Keyser, Flint Hill. . Huffaker, b. 1913, Dick Welles-Outwai-Ornus. 16-3; 1250. Gratteur, drk. br. 1923, Macdonald II-Galatee-Fourire. 16-1• ' Dewar Bros., Hancock. . 1150. C. E. Wisecarver, Berryville .. WYOMING · Gray Falcon, rn. 1926, -Griseldis-. 16; 1080. C. 0. Iselin, jr., Middleburg. Adanor, ch. 1922, Adalid-Norette-Norito. 1~1; 1100. C. D. Half Rock, ch. 1912, Rock Sand-Half Sovereign-Hastings. Huyler, Wilson. · 16--0; 1120. C. W. Byers, Fort Defiance. Bellini, br. 1920, Chouberski-Basse Terre-Omnium II. 15-3; Haphazard, b. 1923, Escoba-Kaskaskia-Yankee. 16-1%,; 1130. 1000. J. C. Scott, Jackson. C. B. Payne, Culpeper. Bud MacDougal, ch. 1918, Trap Rock-Run of Luck-Wagner. High Hand, br. 1920, Fair Play-Haute Roche-Rock Sand. 16; 15-1¥2; 1075. S. Snyder, Painter. 1070. H. C. Wtllis, Rapidan. Bushnell Lad, b. 1915, St. Amant-Allumette-Matchmaker. His Majesty, b. 1910, Ogden-Her Majesty-His Highness. 15-3%,; 1100. F. W. Foss, Diamond. 15-2¥2; 1070. Albert Shaw, jr., Sterling. Checko, b. 1921, Ormondale-Checkers-Ogden. 16-1; 1175. J. J. G. Denny, br. 1921, Jusqu'au Bout-Mary Michaels-Lissak. Berger, Oshoto. 16; 1050. Claiborne Willcox, Providence Forge. Chief Lally, b. 1915, King James-Rosslare-Sempronius. 15- Job, b. 1922, Sans le Sou-Jenny ITI-8imonian. 16-2%; 1140. 3~; 1150. W. M. Spear, Sheridan. . F. M. Humphreys, Phlllamont. Delaware, b. 1916, Ormondale-Livonia--Star Shoot. 16; 1250. Kilter, ch. 1923, Johren-Guess Again-All Gold. 16-1; 1060. C. D. Carey, Cheyenne. John F. Taylor, Staunton. Election, b. 1914, Ballot-Sadie 8--Charaxus. 15-3; 1050. C. A. Allison, Gillette. .. Le Pierre de Tanville, b. 1921, Verwood-Philosophy-Bay Elite, br. 1919, Dandy Rock-Golden Meteor-st. Savin.' 15-2; Ronald. 16-1; 1120. For depot use. Front Royal Q. M. Depot. 1000. M. T. Cox, Cheyenne. Lough Swilly, bl. 1918, Lough Foyle-Bleachers-Kinley Mack. Elkwood, blk. 1916, Elkhorn-Emma-Contestor. 15-3; 1150. 16-1¥2; 1225. Albert Shaw, jr., Sterling. A. L. Spurlock, Alcova. · Louverne, b. 1921, Rabelais-Gloria-Ajax. 16-2; 1105. For de­ Ferados, b. 1923, Cruzados-Fernada-Rey el Santa Anita. 15-1; pot use. Front Royal Q. M. Depot. 1000. Tom Sun, Rawlins. Magic Silence, ch. 1918, Magic II-Mum-Freemason. 16-2¥2; Fort Keogh, ch. 1923, -Appolita-Sir Appleby. 1300. H. W. Herring, Nokesville. . 15-Y2; 950. Gus Nylen, Orin Junction . .Master Hand, b. 1919, Ballot-Shuck H-Jean Bereaud. 15-3%,; Friar Dixon, b. 1919, Friar Rock-Queen Dixon-Sir Dixon. 15-1; 1000. J. M. Jett, Nineveh. 1000 .. J. T. Gratiot, Dubois. Me Donno, b. 1921, McGee-Donna Mamona-Yankee. 16-1; Historicus, br. 1922, Belloc-Arrogance-Golden Maxim. 15-2 Y2; 1160. M. C. Hazen, Nokesville. 1000. C .. P. Berry, Recluse. Modesta; b. 1922, Ralph-Bonnie Kate-Loyalist. 16; 1075. Irish Dancer, ch. 1917, Celt-B'allet Girl-St. Leonards. 15-3%; Harry C. Stuart, Elk Garden. 1100. Mrs. Hazel O'Reilly, Horse Creek. Mr. Kirkwood, br.1924, Squander-8egurola-Runnymede. 16-1; Jack Stuart, br. 1915, Valens-Sweet Sauce-Sir Geo:ffry. 16-%; 1100. T. S. Holtzclaw, Hampton. 1050. J. B. Kendrick, Sheridan. Navigator, b. · 1923, Broomstick-Alster Cress-Watercress. Kalirice, br. 1925, Kalitan-Louie Grice-Bryn Mawr. 15-2; 15-3%; 1000. H. 0. Lyne, Orange. 1100. E. H. Morrison, Diamond. Repulse, ch. 1922, Spanish Prince II-Soria-Ogden. 16-1; 1000. Last Call, b. 1925, War Call-Oh Fie-Nick. 15-%; 950. J. B. H. E. Furr, Aldie. Qkie, Lost Cabin. Sebastian, b. 1926. Wrack-Brumellini-Sea Sick. 16; 1000. Lucknow, br. 1919, Luke McLuke-Carena-Grey Leg. 16-1; C. C. Fernsell, Decca. 1125. Lem Carmin, Douglas. Silver Rock, ch. 1922, Friar Rock-Lady Bedford-Ogden. 15-1; Luke Dillon, ch. 1917, Luke McLuke-Frances Dillon-The Com­ 1070. Marine Barracks, Quantico. moner. 15-1; 1100. C. D. Carey, Cheyenne. Soggarth Aroon, b. or br. 1920, Bard of Hope-Running Vine­ Lynchburg, br. 1909, The Scribe-Rose Washington-Faustus. Transvaal, 15-3%; 1100. W. E. Keister, Fairfax. 16; 1100. H. Fullmer, Sheridan. Spanish Gold, b. 1924, Spanish Prince III-Bright Gold-Golden Majority, br. 1920, Ballot-centrella-Bryn Mawr. 16-1; 1100. Maxim. 16; 1100. C. J. Miller, jr., Washington. R. Nicholas, Sheridan. Starset, ch. 1924, Star Hawk-Set Square-Simon Square. Olin K, ch. 1924, Glencairn-Vena Fair-Fair Play. 15-2¥2; .16-1 7'2; 1050. David Allen, Berryville. 1025. C. L. Byrne, Piedmont. Tchad, br. 1916, Negofol-Toia-Railleur. 16-2~~; 1250. J. D. Poppycock, br. 1917, Durbar-Teetotum li-The Bard. 16-%; Blair. Richmond. 1050. C. Johnson, Alcova. Tim McGee, ch. 1915, McGee-Cheek-Hawkswick. 16; 1050. Red Tomahawk, b. 1925, Assagai-Forbid-Honeywood. 15-3%; Allen C. Pierson, Appomattox. 1050. K. McDonald, Arminto. Xylon, gr. 1912, Grey Plume-Lady Marie-. 16-¥z; Rolling Rock, b. 1921, Sandbar-Edith B-Contract. 15-2; 1000. 1100. For depot use. Front Royal Q. M. Depot. R. D. Carey, Careyhurst. Sargon (Arab), ch. 1915, Segario-Najine-Garaveen. 14-1%; WASHINGTON 970. J. T. Gratiot, Casper. Gayly, .ch. 1921, Transvaal-Airey-Bryn Mawr. 15-2¥2; 1000. Senator Knox (Morgan), ch. 1917, Knox Morgan-Senata­ ,W. M. Farran, Harrah. Senator. 15-%; 1080. C. F. Shurn.alcer, Casper. Glen Oak, b. 1926, Whisk-Hasty Maid-Hastings. 15-3¥2; 1100. Socialist, br. 1923. Kwang Su-La Marsellaise-Fowling Piece. Ross Woodard, Loomis. 16-1; 1150. J. Elliott, Cheyenne. Poultney, br. 1916, Bryn Mawr-Galgris-8t. Gris. 15-3; 1025. Son of Fortune, ch. 1922, Guy Fortune-Category-Cesarian. Dr. W. M. Baker, Sprague. 14-3%; 1000. J. H. Foxton, Glendo. : Sarko, br. 1921, Voorhees-Egeria-clitrord. 15-2; 1100. J. J. Suppliant, b. 1921, Everest-Pliant-The Commoner. 16-1; 1100. Crawford, Yakima. A. M. Brock, Buffalo. · The Greek, b. 1923, Achievement-Grecian Maid-Borgia. 15-%; WEST VIRGINIA 900. Dr. J. R. Hylton, Douglas. Danger Rock, ch. 1912, Rock Sand-Delusion-Meddler. 16-1¥2; Underwriter, br. 1919, Disguise-Agnes Velasquez-Velasquez. 1165. Charles Roy, Bridgeport. 16; 1050. F. Horton, Buffalo. Point Blank, ch. 1922, Ten Polnt-Praline-Bassetlaw. 15-3; Zeus Laddie, b. 1922, Zeus-Edna Collins-The Commoner, 16-%; 1130. Ralph Bentz, Martinsburg. 1100. Dr. J. R. Hylton, Douglas.

~mmar11 ofrt8UlU obtained from the operation of the remount horse breeding plan Bime its inception in 1911 up to and includin1 December 31, 19t9

Value of Value of Value of stallions Amount stallions stallions and brood Foals Estimated Year appropri- Amount and brood and brood mares pro- Stud fees Stallions Mares value of a ted expended mares mares duced at coiiected at stud bred produced foals purchased donated remount depots

192L .• ·------$250,000 $176,271 $93, U2 $112,500 ------$3,210 159 4,100 2,460 $4.18,100 / 1922 .• ------150, uuo 132,728 41,039 28,500 ------15,355 219 6,800 4,080 693,600 1923 .••• ------150,000 106,347 31,137 ag; 750 ------23,100 236 7,500 4,500 765,000 1924--. ·------150,000 140,245 60,639 4:,000 ------22,520 277 8, 700 5,220 887,4:00 1925 .• ------150,000 -145,348 62,876 20,250 $4,500 .0,4.10 308 9,900 5,940 1, 009,800 1926.------150,000 149,385 70,368 18,000 15,750 30,495 382 11,800 8,260 1,404,100 1927------150,000 149,546 74,054 18,000 6,000 24,903 454 12,800 8,960 1, 523,200 "1928. ---______: ______150,000 148,Ul 76,372 13,500 6,000 26,150 527 14, IYlO 10,360 1, 761,200 1929. ------·------150,000 149,407 89,275 12,750 18,000 21,355 580 17,400 12,180 2,070,600 - TotaL ______._-----.--.----·------.---- 1,450,000 1, 'JJJ7, 691 589,502· 299, 250" 50,250 ')JJ7,498 ------3{9- 93,800 61,960 10,533,200 Yearly average_----~--- : ·------161, 111 144,188 65,500 33,250 6,583 23,055 10,422 6,884 1,170,355

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• 1931 . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2101

BREEDING ZONES Central (headquarters remount purchasing and breeding head· quarters, New York !Me Building, Kansas City, Mo.): Includes the Eastern (headquarters: Remount purchasing and breeding States of illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Mlnnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, headquarters, Federal Building, Lexington, Ky.): Includes the North DaJ.wta, South Dakota, Wisconsin. States of Alabama, Connecticut, Oelaware, Florida, Georgia, West-central (headquarters remount purchasing and breeding Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, headquarters, Colorado Springs, Colo.): Includes States of Arizona, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Colorado, New Mexico, Montana (except as indicated under western Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Ver­ zone) , and Wyoming. mont, Virginia, West Virginia. (Note.-Virginia is under the Western (headquarters remount purchasing and breeding head­ jurisdiction of commandlng officer, quartermaster depot, Front quarters, Fort Douglas, Utah): Includes the States of California; Royal, Va.) Idaho; counties of Lincoln, Flathead, Teton, Sanders, Mineral, Mis­ Southern (headquarters: Remount purchasing and breeding soula, Powell, Lewis and Clark, Ravalli, Granite, Jefferson, Beaver­ headquarters, Fort Reno, Okla.): Includes the States of Arkansas, head, Silver Bow, Madison, Broadwater, and Gallatin in Montana; Louisiana, MiSsissippi, Oklahoma, Texas. Nevada: Oregon: Utah; and Washington. Horae-breeding statement

Stallions and brood mares Stallions and brood mares Stallions and brood mares purchased donated produced

Total ap- Total ex­ Stud fees Fiscal year propriated pended Number Number Number collected Value Value Value Stallions Mares Stallions Mares Stallions Mares

1921.------$250,000 $176,271 110 ------$93,742 75 ------$112,500 ------$3,210 . 1922.------160,000 132,728 53 ------41,039 19 ------28,500 ------·------15,355 192:L _ ------160,000 106,347 42 ------31,137 17 7 30,760 ------23, 1nt) 1924------160,000 140,245 73 4.8 60,639 22 16 45,000 ------u.-500- 22,520 1925.------150,000 145,348 M 29 52,876 13 1 20,250 6 ------4.0,410 1926.------150, 000 1~.385 84 25 70,368 11 2 18,000 9 12 15,750 30,495 1927------1EO,OOO 149,546 85 29 74,054 11 2 18, ()()() 6 2 6,000 24,903 11128.------150, ()()() 148,414 85 20 76,372 8 2 13, 500 5 3 6,000 ~.150 1929------150,000 149,407 97 56 89,275 7 3 12,750 10 14 18,000 21,355 1930.------150,000 149,636 93 56 89,121 7 1 11,250 7 16 17,250 13,703 TotaL______1, 600, 000 1, 447, 327 776 263 678,623 190 34 310,500 43 47 67,500 221,201 Average __ ------160, 000 144, 733 78 ~ 67,862 19 3 31,050 4 5 6, 750 22,120

Number or mares Foals secured Number bred Number Number of stal- of stal- of stal- Fiscal year lions at lions dis- lions on stud Per stal- hand at Total Number Per cent Value, at posed of end of lion $170 each year ------] 921_------159 26 4,100 2,460 60 $418,200 2 183 1922.------219 31 6,800 4,080 60 693,600 18 237 1923.------236 32 7,500 4., 500 60 765,000 11 285 1924.------277 31 8, 700 5, 2'20 60 887,400 30 350 1925_------308 32 9,900 5,940 60 1,009,800 37 386 1926.------382 31 11,800 8,260 70 1,404,200 28 462 1927------454 28 12,800 8.980 70 1,523,200 4.2 522 1928.------527 28 14,800 10,360 70 1, 761,200 52 568 1929.------544 28 15,000 110,600 170 11,785,000 62 620 1930------1620 130 118,600 113,020 170 12,213,400 71 650 Total ___ ------110,000 73,300 12,461,000 359 Average ______------373 29 11,000 7,330 66 1, 246,100 36 4.26

1 Estimated; complete data not yet available. Mr. BARBOUR. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to that was necessary to stabilize this activity and produce the amendment. 20,000 colts per year. He said further that 700 stallions In reply to the statement of the gentleman permit me to was all the Army needed in order to produce these 20,000 say that the amount of the Budget estimate for this activity colts. The committee has recommended $20,000 more than was reduced from $132,500 to $120,000. The committee be­ the Army asked, more than General Cheatham thought lieves that the activity can be carried on the same as it has was necessary. The committee has provided for 800 stal­ been with $120,000, and if that can not be done and it is lions instead of 700 stallions. So I can see no reason for determined later on that they will need $12,500 more, or anxiety on the part of certain Members of the House. There any part of $12,500, they can come in and get it in a exists no good reason for the Congress to provide a larger deficiency appropriation. We believe it can be carried on for appropriation for breeding purposes than the War Depart­ the amount recommended, and therefore we reduced the ment itself thinks is necessary. estimate $12,500. The CHAffiMAN. The question is on agreeing to the Mr. CIDNDBLOM. Will the gentleman yield? amendment offered by the gentleman from Colorado [Mr. Mr. BARBOUR. I yield. EATON]. Mr. CHINDBLOM. This item has been carried in other The amendment was rejected. appropriation bills before in exactly the same language? Mr. SLOAN. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last Mr. BARBOUR. Yes. word. Mr. COLLINS. Will the gentleman yield? I ask unanimous consent to proceed for five minutes out Mr. BARBOUR. I yield. of order. Mr. COLLINS. Supplementing what the gentleman from The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the California says, when General Cheatham, the Quartermaster gentleman from Nebraska [Mr. SLOAN]? General, testified before the subcommittee he stated that he There was no objection. was considering recommending $100,000 for this activity in­ Mr. SLOAN. A short time ago to-day the distinguished stead of $120,000 as recommended by the committee. gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. McCLINTIC] presented an Mr. EATON of Colorado. Will the gentleman yield? impressive telegram signed by two of the leading newspapers Mr. COLLINS. Not now. I will yield when I have con­ of that great State, in which, among others, there appeared cluded my statement. General Cheatham said he was con­ a remarkable statement. Speaking for the people of that sidering recommending $100,000 because $100,000 was all great State, which I understand has more millionaires than 2102 ·coNGRESSIONAL: RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 any other agricultural State in the Union, and referr!ng to to that, she agreed to pay us for 10 years 3 per cent interest; an attempt to raise funds for the great Red Cross movement thereafter to pay 3% or 3% per cent interest. That was to for all of the Nation, that telegram stated, "We do not pro­ proceed for a period 'of 52 years, at which time she would pose to raise one dime for National Red Cross appeal!' have paid us interest at the rate of 3 and 3 Y2 per cent on I never understood that the Red Cross was bounded in its every dollar that she borrowed from us, as well as the en­ benefits and its charities by State lines, any more than tire amount of the principal. hunger or suffering is confined to municipal limits. So far I will state that we receive annually about $200,000,000 as our part of the great agricultural West and part of the from foreign governments on the amount of the principal Corn Belt instead of the " oil ring .. is concerned, our and interest of their debts, and approximately three-fourths State, without especially criticizing Oklahoma, expects to of that money comes from Great Britain. We do not get a meet every request, every appeal, the great Red Cross move­ cent from France, and I do not believe we are getting any­ ment shall make for the Nation, including ourselves. Ne­ thing from Italy. braska is not asking for any_relief of any character. We are Mr. HASTINGS. For the first 10 years we get nothing, glad this year Providence has been kind to us, rewarding our and the next 5 years it is one-eighth of 1 per cent. industry and thrift. But whether kind or unkind, Nebraska 1\Ir. DUNBAR. That is what I was about to observe­ instead of refusing to raise funds for the National Red Cross that it was one-eighth of 1 per cent. It then gradually in­ will meet any appeal that great organization will make, creases until 40, 50, or 60 years from now the difference on whether for separate States or for the Nation. what the interest paid and what the interest would have I come from a district that is without a niillionaire, and amounted to at 3 and 3% per cent is credited to the prin­ yet its per capita wealth is as high as almost any district in cipal, so that at the end of that time she will not have paid the United States. I come from a State almost devoid of us, had we agreed to cancel the debt at the end of 62 years, millionaires. But whatever our burden may be, in our weak­ more than about 1% per cent interest on her money. ness and limited wealth we expect to move on with Dlinois Take the case of France. We could have canceled our in­ and New York and contribute to the relief of those un­ debtedness with France and said this: You need not pay us favored this year our full share of the Red Cross demands. one dollar of the principal you owe us, which· is $4,025,000,000, tApplause.l or was, but you pay us 2 per cent interest on that amount The pro forma amendment was withdrawn. for 62 years and we will call everything square. That is all Mr. DUNBAR. Mr. Chairman,' I move to strike out the the settlement with France amounts to. last word. The settlements with other countries are planned on the I wish to speak with reference to the statements made by same sort of a scheme. Then, in addition to that, they are the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. TREADWAY] pertain­ permitted to refund their interest. There is one country, ing to the three plans advocated by the president of the I think Rumania, that owed us $44,000,000 when the settle­ Chase National Bank of New York for the restoration of ment was made in 1926, and she agreed to settle at the business. The gentleman stated that the president of the rate of 3 per cent interest and pay all of her principal, cover­ Chase National Bank of New York said that prosperity could ing a period of 62 years, but she can refund her interest or be restored by three methods, one, the reduction of wages, postpone the payment of her interest; and, my friends, it second, a reduction of the tariff, and third, a reduction of is an actual fact that although Rumania claims to have the international debt. made a settlement with the United States, that in 1940 she He made some reference to England's desire that there be · will actually owe us more money than she owed us when a readjustment of our debts with European countries. I the debt was supposed to have been settled. In 1940 Ru­ have nothing to add to what the gentleman said except this: mania will owe the United States $51,000,000 instead of That if any of the European governments have any reason to $44,000,000 as in 1926. object to the settlements we made with European countries The CHAffiMAN. The time of the gentleman from In­ that country is Great Britain. It is the only one of all the diana has expired. European cotintries that has settled its debts in accord with Mr. DUNBAR. Mr. Chairman. I ask unanimous consent the high principles of integrity and righteousness. [Ap­ to proceed for two additional minutes. plause.] The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Indiana asks Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Will the gentleman yield? unanimous consent to proceed for two additional minutes. Mr. DUNBAR. Yes. Is there objection? Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Can the gentleman give us Mr. BARBOUR. Mr. Chairman, I am not going to object the figures as to just how much the foreign governments to the gentleman's request for two additional minutes, but owe the United States at this time, including interest? from now on I am going to object to these speeches out of Mr. DUNBAR. I can give the figures approximately­ order. The committee has been in session about an hour, $11,000,000,000, and of that amount England owes approxi­ and 38 minutes of that time has been used in speeches out mately $4,000,000,000, France $4,000,000,000, and Italy be­ of order. If we are going to get anywhere with the bill, tween $2,000,000,000 and $3,000,000,000. we must read it. I am not going to object to the gentleman's Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. I think the gentleman will request, but I will object hereafter. find that on a 4 per cent interest basis the foreign goveTJ].­ The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? ments' cancellation covering a period of proposed payment There was no objection. will amount to more than $10,700,000,000. Mr. DUNBAR. Rumania will owe us an increased in­ Mr. DUNBAR. Their debt to-day is approximately $11,- debtedness of $7,000,000, and the settlements with other coun­ 000,000,000. tries, as far as principal is concerned, have been postponed Mr. HASTINGS. Will the gentleman permit me to say for 20, 30, 40, or 50 years, by which time most of them that counted on a 4% per cent basis, that is, if we had will be out of existence and we will never get a dollar of the charged foreign governments the 4% per cent they agreed principal. In the meantime they pay us a small amount of to pay instead of the amount they actually do pay, we re­ money for interest, which amounts to practically nothing. mitted to them in interest $10,705,000,000. But what I wanted to impress upon the Members of this Mr. DUNBAR. I think we remitted to them pretty nearly House was this: That Great Britain is the only country in everything they owed us, possibly with the exception of all the world that has discharged her debt in accord with Great Britain. business theories, financial integrity, and business principles. But let me tell about Great Britain, and then I will dwell I sometimes think that our settlements w1th foreign coun­ a little bit upon what the gentleman from Oklahoma has tries should be revised and that Great Britain should be said. In our settlement with Great Britain she agreed to given more favorable consideration. Why should she pay pay the entire amount of the debt she owed us, which was three-fourths of all the money that is paid to us on account between $4,000,000,000 and $5,000,000,000. She agreed to of our foreign debts? I do not believe that outside of Great pay us the entire amount of the principal and, in addition Britain we will ever collect more than 10 per cent of the .- 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2103 amount of money they owe us; and I would not give them mere than $16,000 of the appropriations contained tn this act shall be available for rent of offices outside the District of Colum­ 5 per cent for all we will collect of the amount of their bia in connection with work incident to the assurance of adequate indebtedness. provision for the mobilization of materiel and industrial organi­ The CHAffiMAN. The time of the gentleman from Indi­ zations essential to war-time needs: Provided further, That this ana has again expired. appropriation . shall be available for the rental of offices, garages, and stables for military attaches: Provided further, That not The Clerk read as follows: exceeding $4,100,000 shall be available immediately for the pro­ For construction and installation at military posts, including curement and transportation of fuel for the service of the fiscal the United States Military Academy, of buildings, utilities, and year 1932: Provi ded further, That no part of the funds herein appurtenances thereto, including interior facilities, necessary serv­ appropriated shall be available for construction of a. permanent ice connections to water, sewer, gas, and electric mains, and simi­ nature of an additional building or an extension or addition to lar improvements, all within the authorized limits of cost of such an existing building, the cost of which in any case exceeds $20,000: buildings, as authorized by the acts approved February 18, 1928 Provided further, That the monthly rental rate to be paid out of (45 Stat. 129), May 26, 1928 (45 Stat. 748) , February 25, 1929 this appropriation for stabling any animal shall not exceed $15. · (45 Stat. 1301), June 18, 1930 (46 Stat. 781), and July 3, 1930 (46 Stat. 1014), including also the engagement, by contract or Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of otherwise, of the services of architects, or firms, or partnerships order on the paragraph largely for the purpose of iru{utring thereof, and other technical and professional personnel as may be of the chairman of the committee as to the ro..caning of the 'deemed necessary without regard to requirements and restrictions phrase on page 25, lines 4 and 5?- of law governing the employment and compensation of employees of the U~ted States, to be available immediately, $20,638,990, of For sale to officers, and including also fuel and engine supplies which $95,000 shall be available for the construction of night- 1 required in the operation of mo

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2104 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 I The CHAmMAN. The gentleman from California offers Mr. BARBOUR. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to an amendment, which the Clerk will report. the amendment because I do not think it is a good thing . The Clerk read as follows: to write into an appropriation bill. The gentleman from Amendment by Mr. BARBoUR: Page 25, line 2, after the word New York and the gentleman from Connecticut have indi­ !"May," strike out "21 " and insert in lieu thereof "31." . cated how far this thing might go and that there may be no 1 The amendment was agreed to. limit to it. There is no need of a Jimitation written iuto Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. the bill. We expect the department to spend this money The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Mississippi offers in an economical way. We expect them to get as much as an amendment, which the Clerk will report. they can for every dollar. The Clerk read as follows: I believe that the War Department should have the same right to purchase materials and supplies as any private Amendment offered by Mr. CoLLINS: Page 25, line 25, before the period, insert the following: "Provided further, That no part of institution would have or that any private individual would the funds herein appropriated shall be available for the purchase have. I am as much in favor as anyone can be of buying of furniture that is made wholly or partly of wood not grown in our American products in preference to foreign products, the United States." but there are many things that are bought abroad in the Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Chairman, this amendment is one ordinary and regular way. I do not think that we should that would require the War Department in its purchase of hamper the activities of the War Department by an amend­ wooden furniture to purchase furniture made out of native ment of this kind. American woods. If you read the specifications for furni­ Mr. KETCHAM. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? ture drawn up by the War Department, you -will find that Mr. BARBOUR. Yes. they require the furniture to be made largely out of African Mr. ~TCHAM. Will the gentleman state what the policy or. Honduras mahogany. This amendment would require of the War Department is when, for instance, two articles of them to use native American woods rather than -foreign equal merit are offered to it, one of which is produced in a woods. foreign country and one of which is produced here, so far This War Department furniture item is the largest furni­ as the purchase of those articles is concerned? Do they take ture order that the busfuess of the country has an oppor­ into consideration the ·matter of price and show preference tunity to bid on. Therefore our lumber industry is intensely to the foreign article where the price is better? Is price a interested in having an opportunity to supply the materials determining factor? out of which the furniture is made. Mr. BARBOUR. Yes; I think that has something to do Native American woods, like birch, gum, walnut, oak, and with it. I have a letter here from the Secretary of War maple, make just as good furniture as mahogany, and they opposing an amendment of this kind. Somewhere in the are just as durable.' letter he states, as I recall, that wherever it is possible for Gum, walnut, and maple when given a mahogany stain them to do so they buy the American-made article, but make beautiful furniture, and an expert can not tell the there are many things which he lists that they have to buy difference between it and mahogany. There is no reason, abroad. therefore, to use African or Honduras mahogany except that Mr. KETCHAM. The gentleman is aware that the senti­ it is generally regarded as the "spiffier" kind of furniture. ment of the House will be overwhelmingly in favor of the These furniture woods are not raised in any section of the purchase of American products wherever possible. country to the exclusion of others. Birch is grown in Wis:.. Mr. BARBOUR. That is my understanding of the policy consin, Michigan, Maine, New York, Vermont, New Hamp­ of the War Department to-day. shire, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, North Caro­ Mr. KETCHAM. What can this House do not only to lina, and other States. make gentlemen appreciate that but to make the War De­ Gum is grown in Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Ala­ partment appreciat-e it, so that it will not be necessary to bama, Texas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, North limit them as this amendment proposes to do? Carolina, Virginia, and other States. Mr. BARBOUR. In this long letter of the Secretary of Maple is grown in Michigan, Wisconsin, West Virginia, War the statement is made that that is just what they Pennsylvania, New York, Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee, Ver­ do now. mont, Arkansas, and other States. Mr. GOSS. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Oak is grown in Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana, West Vir­ Mr. BARBOUR. Yes. ginia, Mississippi, Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Missouri, Mr. GOSS. I understand that the War Department in Texas, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Indiana, Ohio, Geor­ submitting requests for bids has to allow the contract to go gia, and other States. to the lowest bidder, regardless of whether the material is Walnut is grown in Iowa, Kansas, Ohio, Indiana, Mis­ manufactured in this country or abroad, and those two in­ souri, Illinois, Kentucky, and other States. stances to which I referred a moment ago happened to af­ . The adoption of this amendment will benefit our own fect my particular district, as doubtless as the butter and lumber industry and give it a large lumber order that oleomargarine did the district of the gentleman from Cali­ otherwise it would not receive. The greatest depression fornia the other day. I, for one, would like to join in seeing in this country is in the lumber industry, and this amend­ to it that we all get the benefit of this in forcing the War ment ought to be adopted to help it, and I hope the gen­ Department to buy their goods from United States manu­ tleman from California will accept it. facturers. Mr. GOSS. Will the gentleman be willing to include Mr. BARBOUR. Here is what the Secretary of War says metal uniform buttons and other things of that kind in his on that point: amendment instead of confining it simply to furniture? The Army is reqUired by law to purchase its supplies from the Mr. COLLINS. I shall later on introduce another amend­ lowest responsible bidder, and can give preference to articles of domestic origin only when price and quality are equal. Many o! ment covering the articles mentioned by the gentleman the items purchased by the Army are no doubt imported, and a and many others not mentioned by him. number of articles manufactured in the United States contain Mr. LAGUARDIA. Let me say that I have an amendment components of raw materials grown or produced in foreign coun­ that I will offer when you will have an opportunity to vote tries. on that proposition. I want to state to the gentleman that The Secretary of War says that that is the law, that they butter and most of the dairy products used by the Army in can give preference to articles of domestic origin only when Panama comes from . I will offer an amendment price and quality are equal. and give the committee an·opportunity to vote on it. Mr. GOSS. I observed the other day when we passed the Mr. COLLINS, I shall follow this amendment with an­ amendment on this same bill about using butter on the table other one including the articles the gentleman has re­ in the Army, instead of oleomargarine, that that seemed to ferred to. create a precedent for the use of American-made· products•

• 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE ·2105 Hence my request in this amendment. I do not see the dif­ Appropriations, and the committee struck it out. I refer to ference between excluding oleomargarine and including but­ the language now offered by the gentleman from New York ter and excluding the products of the gentleman from Mis­ [Mr. TABERJ. When that language was in the bill the Secre­ sissippi and others of us interested in the products of our tary of War was asked what the effect of it would be on the particular districts. activities of the War Department, and I have a letter in Mr. BARBOUR. Butter and oleomargarine are domesti- reply and think it would be probably as enlightening right cally produced articles. now as anything on the subject. Mr. GOSS. They might not be. Mr. SNELL. I think the gentleman should read it. Mr. BARBOUR. I think as a matter of fact they are. Mr. BARBOUR. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent Mr. COLLINS. Of course, the gentleman knows that the that the Clerk read this letter from the Secretary of Wa~ other amendment that I have in mind will include all arti­ on the language contained in the amendment offered by the cles. gentleman from New York [Mr. TABERJ. Mr. GOSS. I did not realize that. There was no objection. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following substi­ The Clerk read as follows: tute for the amendment offered by the gentleman from Mis­ w"AR DEPARTMENT, sissippi, which I send to the desk. Washington, December 31, 1930. The Clerk read as follows: Hon. H. E. BARBOUR, House of Representatives. Substitute by Mr. TABER: In lieu of the matter contained in the DEAR MR. BAROOUR: The following information is furnished in Coillns substitute insert the following: compliance with your letter of December 20, 1930: "None of the appropriations in this act shall be available for You asked to what extent the War Department buys articles the purchase for use within the continental limits of the United and supplies abroad for use within the continental limits of the States of any raw materials not produced within the continental United States. limits of the United States or any articles or supplies containing There is inclosed herewith a list of the items bought abroad by materials or manufactured of materials not produced within the the supply services of the Army during the past two years. It continental limits of the United States, except (1) articles pro­ will be noted that, with minor exceptions, all of the items pur­ duced or supplies purchased for experimental purposes; (2) crude chased abroad were obtained either for research and development rubber and components of ammunition or of mixed metals not work or because they were not obtainable in the United States. procurable within the United States; and (3} as may be author­ You asked further in what respect the Army would be adversely ized expressly by law." affected if the War Department were prevented by law from pur­ Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Chairman, I accept that amendment. chasing any raw materials or manufactured articles from foreign sources for use within the continental ltmits of the United States. Mr. STAFFORD. I reserve the point of order on the If the War Department were prevented from buying any articles amendment. or materials abroad 1n time of peace, research and development Mr. TABER. I ask the gentleman to make the point of work would be seriously handicapped. It is essential that our Army keep continuously abreast· of the development of military order. equipment in foreign countries in order that our equipment may Mr. STAFFORD. I make the point of order that it be designed to meet foreign equipment 1n battle, if necessary, and changes existing law. to insure that the United States Army is prepared to utilize new_ The CHAIRMAN: The form of the amendment is a nega­ developments in military weapons. There are numerous develop­ ments in military materiel in all parts of the world through the tive limitation, referring only to the appropriations in this use of which the design of our own materiel may be advanced. act. The purchase of developed designs abroad saves much costly re­ Mr. STAFFORD. If the present occupant of the chair search and development in thls country, and permits us to use wants tQ go to the extreme limit of negativing existing law foreign development as a starting point for our own advancement. In time of war it is necessary to purchase abroad certain strategic under the form of a limitation, then I have done my part. items not available 1n sufficient quantities 1n the United States. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is aware that Congress A list of such materials is furnished herewith. can always negative existing law by refusing to appropriate The foregoing information pertains solely to supplies purchased abroad from foreign dealers. It does not apply to articles and to carry it out, and apparently that is all this limitation supplies purchased in the United States which have been im­ does. ported from abroad and sold by American dealers. The Army is Mr. STAFFORD. There are many decisions holding to required by law to purchase its supplies from the lowest respon­ sible bidder, and can give preference to articles of domestic the contrary, although the trend of decisions of the later origin only when price and quality are equal. Many items pur­ occupants of the chair is as the present occupant of the chased by the Army are no doubt imported and a number of items chair has stated. manufactured in the.- United States contain components or raw The CHAIRMAN. The Chair overrules the point of order. materials grown or pro9,uced in foreign countries. It would be impossible to ascertain the quantities of such items purchased as Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, in connection with that sub­ often the origin of the article is unknown. stitute, I believe that every reasonable objection of the Sec­ Should a law be passed which would prevent the purchase in retary of War is met with the exceptions which are provided the United States of articles grown or produced abroad, the cost of maintaining the Army would be considerably increased. Also in that limitation. many items and raw materials are not produced or grown 1n this Mr. SNELL. Will the gentleman yield for a question? country in sufficient quantities to satisfy domestic consumption. Mr. TABER. I yield. Were the War Department restricted 1n its source of supply in Mr. SNELL. Have you gone into this carefully to be abso­ these items it would be compelled to pay a premium to secure its lutely sure you would not get into trouble by putting such requirements. Due to difficulties which would be encountered 1n tracing the a limitation on an appropriation bill? I am in favor of origin of materials or components or ingredients of articles manu­ doing what you want to do, as far as it can be done con­ factured in the United States, a bill designed to prevent purchase sistently; but when you put a blanket limitation like that by the Army of articles of foreign origin would be very difficult of enforcement. Of course, you realize that any bill which limited it is a serious proposition and you should be absolutely the source of supply of the Army would necessarily have to be set sure you are not going to get into trouble before the year aside in time of war. is over. Sincerely yours, Mr. COLLINS. We have checked up on that carefully, PATRICK J. HURLEY, Secretary of War. and that· amendment will not do any injury whatever to the Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I think it is apparent from War Department. the reading of that letter that the amendment does not go Mr. TABER. I can not see how it could do any possible to the point of preventing the War Department from doing damage. practically everything they say they want to do under the Mr. BLACK. What about purchasing the necessary drugs letter which they have sent in. He says they want to go for the Army? into experimental work and buy experimental orders of Mr. TABER. When they are not procurable in the United things that are produced abroad by other armies in other States they can be bought abroad. countries. There is absolutely nothing in this amendment Mr. BARBOUR. I have a letter from the Secretary of which prevents that. In fact, it is expressly excepted. Also War directed to the amendment which the gentleman from metals or components of ammunition that are not produced New York [Mr. TABER] has offered. That language was in in the United States, or crude :rubber, are excepted from the bill when it came before the entire Committee on the operations of the amendment. It does not seem to me - ·2106 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE JANUARY 13 that it goes so far as to embarrass the Army in its proper Mr. LAGUARDIA; Mr. Chairman, regardless of what the operations. It does protect the American producer. There attitude of the Appropriations Committee may be, let the has been a great deal of trouble about protecting the Ameri­ RECORD show what the real situation is. This matter bas can producer in the Army's purchases. come up before. I raised this question a few years ago in I believe the substitute should be adopted. regard to the food supplies for the Army stationed in the Mr. BARBOUR. Mr. Chairman, as I understand the read­ Canal Zone. I just want the farmers to know that while we ing of the amendment, it would have the effect that if the in the cities must pay high prices for food products by War Department undertook to buy anything manufactured reason of the tariff and other artificial stimulation of prices in this country it would have to first determine whether the American Army in the Canal Zone obtains all of its that article had some ingredient or some element that had butter, eggs, and meat from New Zealand and Australia. been imported from a foreign country. Think of the posi­ A few years ago I obtained the figures and put them in the tion in which that would place the War Department. The RECORD. I offered an amendment similar to the amendment amendment expressly prohibits the use of any of this money which is now before the committee, and the Governor of for any manufactured article in the manufacture of which Panama was called up and asked how much it would cost. is used some article imported from abroad. He figured the difference in the prices, and because it would I think the letter of the Secretary of War is absolutely cost a little more money the department did not go along. clear that an amendment of this kind would be cumber­ I submit to you dairy farmers, to the truck farmers, to my some and would hamper the activities of the Army. I do friend from Maine who is interested in potatoes, and those .not object to the purpose of this amendment. The purpose who are interested in supplies generally, that the American is to buy everything that possibly can be in this country Army and the War Department should at least set a good and buy things that are manufactured here. The War De­ example and use American products. [Applause.] partment should do that as far as it can within the law, I will say to my colleague from Hawaii that I was raised but this shows the danger of trying to provide for a matter on an Army post in Arizona, but I never saw a pineapple of this kind by a limitation on the appropriation. That is there-canned or otherwise. I suppose they are feeding a question that should be gone into as a matter of legisla­ the soldiers pineapples since they introduced the institution tion, and gone into fully, and it should first be determined of hostesses, about which the gentleman from Mississippi just what the effect of it will be. [Mr. CoLLINs] is such an authority. [Laughter.] But pine­ Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. Mr. Chairman, I offer an apples are good, wholesome food, and I am glad to know they· amendment to the substitute by striking out, wherever it are being fed to the soldiers. I am not disparaging Hawaiian occurs, the word "continental." pineapples. I know they are fine. The CHAIRMAN. The Delegate from Hawaii offers an Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. Will the gentleman yield? amendment to the amendment, which the Clerk will report. Mr. LAGUARDIA. Yes. The Clerk read as follows: • Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. For the Army in Hawaii they Amendment offered by the Delegate from Hawaii [Mr. HousToN]: buy New Zealand butter and New Zealand mutton, as well Strike out in line 2, in line 4, and in line 6 of the substitute the as many other articles which can be produced in America. word "continental." [Applause.] Mr. STAFFORD. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. LAGUARDIA. Now, gentlemen, who is the chairman Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. I yield. of this subcommittee? A distinguished gentleman from Mr. STAFFORD. The purport of the gentleman's amend­ California. When we had the tariff bill before us he wanted ment would allow articles from the Philippines, like palm oil, every little hazelnut sold in this country branded "Made in to be used? California"; be wanted every fig branded "Made in Cali­ Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. No, sir. fornia "; and he wanted every date branded " Made in Cali­ Mr. STAFFORD. Why not? fornia"; yet here we find the gentleman from California Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. That is not a part of the ready to feed the American Army on articles produced in United States in accordance with various and sundry laws Australia and New Zealand. that have been passed. It would only provide for the Mr. BARBOUR. I want to say to the gentleman that I United States proper and the incorporated Territories­ voted for every tariff rate that was proposed in that bill. Alaska and Hawaii. Can the gentleman from New York, who is now so interested Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Will the gentleman yield? in American products, show such a good record? Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. I yield. Mr. LAGUARDIA. I am consistent. Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Does the gentleman mean Mr. BARBOUR. The gentleman should not be uncertain that the department could not buy Cuban sugar? about my attitude on the tariff or American products, be­ Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. I do not know as to that. I cause I went the limit in that bill. do not know whether that would come within the provision Mr. LAGUARDIA. I know the gentleman went the limit of what is available. . to protect American producers, and he should now be ready Mr. STAFFORD. They would be compelled to buy beet to go the limit again for the producers who supply these sugar or Hawaiian sugar. ·Of course, I do not think anyone fine and luscious California products to the American Army. contends that the Hawaiian sugar planters are in distress at Mr. BARBOUR. If the gentleman will permit, I am ad­ the present time, when their pockets are ovet1lowing with vised that more than a year ago Secretary of War -Good ~~ . issued a regulation putting into effect practically what the Mr. O'CONNOR of New York. Sugar and rubber would gentleman is now contending for and that they encountered be some of the important things. " certain difficulties that made it necessary to rescind the Mr. HOUSTON of Hawaii. I do not yield any further at order. this time, Mr. Chairman. Mr. LAGUARDIA. It was the cost. we produce, under the system of this Government, both Mr. BARBOUR. What I am getting at is this: I favor sugar and pineapples, both of which are used in the Army as strongly as anyone the use of American products by the ration. Pineapples, of course, are not grown within the Army, but this is not the way to legislate in regard to a continental areas of the United States at the present time thing of that kind. in quantities and canned. They are grown, of course, in Mr. LAGUARDIA. This amendn}ent is the proper way to Florida. I admit that. We want ourselves to have exactly reach it. the same restrictions in Hawaii with respect to this particu­ Mr. BARBOUR. I am attempting to suggest that we lar suggested amendment as you are placing upon your­ should study this proposition and see what effect it will have, selves in continental United States. It would be a calamity and if we can buy these products in the United States with­ as far as the United States is concerned if 900,000 tons of out interfering or conflicting with the activities of the Army sugar which is shipped to San Francisco for refining could I am just as much in favor of doing so as is the gentleman not be used under the terms of this substitute. from New York.

I . 1931 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2107 1\fr. LAGUARDIA. I spoke about this proposition a few The CHAIRMAN. The question is on agreeing to the years ago, I believe, in general debate. The Governor of the amendment to the substitute offered by the Delegate from Panama Canal was called up about it, and the Teason the Hawaii. • proposition was defeated-and it is no secret now-was be­ The amendment to the substitute was agreed to. cause of the additional cost it would .entail on the A.nny. The substitute as amended was agreed to. However, I say that when we are spending $334,000,000 for The CHAIRMAN. The question is on agreeing to the military activities and when we have constant and repeated amendment as amended by the substitute. complaints that we have a food surplus, we should use up The question was taken; and on a division

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