Chat Log Meeting 2

Chat Log Meeting 2 Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:38) try it nicolaMac: (17:39) okay and can you please go into page with table and format it? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:39) ok Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:40) I think I can create a template nicolaMac: (17:41) I like working with you! nicolaMac: (17:41) talking about that dont we also have to advance on Michael's project??? nicolaMac: (17:41) have posted a discussion - is that what you wanted? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:41) oh yeah Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:41) that's another headache Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:42) see nic Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:42) are we having the same group for that? nicolaMac: (17:44) you tried to skype?? nicolaMac: (17:46) have put up some text in wip page to see how it will work practically if we all add to one page - i think complicated that way Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:47) We can form a template to follow to organize our contributions nicolaMac: (17:48) seems it might be better in inbed this wiki into a google docs page ??? nicolaMac: (17:48) or template idea Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:48) are you taliking about the excel sheet? nicolaMac: (17:49) it seems everything we need - excel spreadsheets, everyones separate docs, discussions, calendars etc all in google docs... Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:49) aha nicolaMac: (17:49) we can then uplaod our separate docs and also any other relevant information etc - wiki seems a bit limited nicolaMac: (17:50) doesnt stop us having a wiki imbedded Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:50) aha Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:50) stll thinking Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:50) so what r u final thoughts? wiki or no wiki? nicolaMac: (17:51) dont know either well enough to make such an executive decision. i say lets make a list of what we need and then see if scarlet /gilbert have the final answer. no lost time as we can still put them on the wiki tonight and jsut convert to google docs if more efficient or keep as is Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:52) ok Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:52) but I think we should make an executive decision Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:52) we are running out of time nicolaMac: (17:52) do you know both well enough to see which will be most efficient once the pace and volume increase? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:53) I daon't know wikispaces Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:53) but my concern abolut google docs that they sometimes get bugs nicolaMac: (17:54) in the mean time to get the content done then - is the problem stated in the best manner to cover how the content we want? nicolaMac: (17:55) i am not talking wiki or google cos basically we are getting work done this week and whatever system we upload it to is neither here nor there really Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:55) yeah Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:58) well I prefer the wiki for our writings and comments nicolaMac: (17:59) so lets keep in wiki for now and see how we go - nothin will be lost Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:59) each page will have a discussion Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:59) which make it easy to discuss the conetn of that page Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:59) use goodle excel sheet for our weekly contributions nicolaMac: (18:00) finalising question - the write up confused me a bit between the teachers within programs within language centres. does english language centre have many programs and within many programs many teachers who have to install elearning modules on their own? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:01) yup Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:01) actually we don't have specilaized instructional designers nicolaMac: (18:01) yup so one has the situation where one could have a number of teachers all installing elaearning at class level Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:01) so some teacher who undergo special yet very short training do it Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:01) *teachers nicolaMac: (18:01) not one overriding teacher setting up one for the whole departmet? why ? each class/program different requirements? nicolaMac: (18:02) which teachers chosen on what basis? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:02) in each program there is at least one teacher who does the online course design and monitring Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:02) well... all depends on iexpertise and interest nicolaMac: (18:02) what sort of programs were there in english department so i can get an understanding of break down Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:03) I designed a moodle course even though I was the least in teaching experience in the LC nicolaMac: (18:03) what was happening in other language centres? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:03) yet my interest and technical capabilities made the program cooridtor choose me for the job Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:03) they wanted to do the course design with full teaching load Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:04) which is killing! Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:04) I refused and asked for less teaching load if they needed me for the job nicolaMac: (18:04) wasnt there a lot of overlapping? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:04) and they did that Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:04) regarding what? nicolaMac: (18:05) each person creating elearning modules across programs where they could have done one moodle and whoever needed it used it? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:05) I agree with you nicolaMac: (18:05) but did htey not do taht? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:05) it is overlapping and insuffiecent Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:05) there should be one team to do this Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:05) I think they have now a Moodle team nicolaMac: (18:05) was taht cos they did not understand it at higher admin level? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:05) yet I am not aware of their reposibilites nicolaMac: (18:06) ned to log off at 7:15... Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:06) not worries Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:06) will talk about it later Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:06) are you available later? nicolaMac: (18:06) so how do we tackle this - do we look at how they did it using your example or from your experience how they should ahve? nicolaMac: (18:07) need to do my 5025 literature review and have issue..... Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:07) I don't think you should confine our project on my perosnal experience Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:07) it was only to spurr our imagination Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:07) As I said Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:07) keep it broad nicolaMac: (18:08) okay so lets take yoru expeirence but put it into language department?? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:09) any department? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:09) don't wanna confine it into language teaching nicolaMac: (18:09) maybe you could do anotehr write up of the problem - keep the one you have but another taking it up to universit level Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:09) which will contrain our reseach options nicolaMac: (18:10) would ther be particular issues for a language department or could we do it across range - mabe too broad or would it not matter? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:10) I will do it Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:10) it doesn not matter dear Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:10) beileve me nicolaMac: (18:10) maybe can put it on wiki asap and then i we can all review RD etc to cater for it? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:10) We will be more creative when it is broader nicolaMac: (18:11) ok Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:11) ok Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:11) will try today Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:11) I am dying Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:11) I have 2 assignments coming beside the consulting report proposal + discussion this tues nicolaMac: (18:11) dying...??? nicolaMac: (18:11) i know the feeling!!!!!!!! Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:12) are we working on the cosutling report together Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:12) sure you do :)) nicolaMac: (18:12) we done here then? even if you dont write it up got the general gist and will get RD and CATWOE done nicolaMac: (18:12) we are working on whatever we can togehterh!!!!!! nicolaMac: (18:12) you going to turn off the lights (recording?) Ahlam Al Rawahi: (18:12) yeah

Note: Group A collaborative spaces:

(1) Adobe Connect ==> for synchronous, weekly meetings (recorded)

(2) Wikispaces ==> Brainstorming ideas; collaborative writing; each page has its own discussion which facilitates negotiation of meaning

(3) Google Excel doc ==>