Meeting 5 Chat Notes Note 10 (1) discuss the additional content we have added in light of Lina's feedback (2) roles for week of 20 Sept - 27 Sept (3) TOC and our approach

Idenitfy 5 key aspects in the change Could be at different levels that are relevant

Some notes from Lina's feedback concept from SSM analysis? process and tools for each level i.e. audience

Ahlam: (9/22/2010 17:31) hello guys gilbert ng: (17:31) lol only us Ahlam: (17:31) sorry gilbert gilbert ng: (17:32) sorry? Ahlam: (17:32) no one around so far Ahlam: (17:32) sorry for not allowing some time for you to review the analysis nicolaMac: (17:32) that took me a loooon g time sorry - lights on! gilbert ng: (17:32) nah it's ok gilbert ng: (17:32) lol gilbert ng: (17:32) hi nic nicolaMac: (17:32) why can i nver put the lights on? gilbert ng: (17:32) i think non of us can only hosts? Ahlam: (17:33) I was planning to have an individual feedback on the part I worte but Lina's suggestion for group feedabck sounded great nicolaMac: (17:33) why cant we be hosts? Ahlam: (17:33) can't be a host Ahlam: (17:33) will try it gilbert ng: (17:33) a host has to promote us to host nicolaMac: (17:33) we need to be to record!!!! gilbert ng: (17:33) haha ahlam is gonna sign back in with her account gilbert ng: (17:33) she'll be able to record Scarlet: (17:33) wonderful nicolaMac: (17:33) great job scar - happy with it? gilbert ng: (17:33) hi scarlet good job! Scarlet: (17:33) i'm so pleased that its done! nicolaMac: (17:34) and done goood! Scarlet: (17:34) thank you gilly! Scarlet: (17:34) thanks Nic! nicolaMac: (17:34) gilly how much time do we need to plan ours? gilbert ng: (17:34) hmmm i reckon for now lets select our articles email lina for approval and go from there? gilbert ng: (17:35) ahlam the host is back nicolaMac: (17:35) ahlam if you promote us all now to hosts will we stay like that? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:35) nope nic Scarlet: (17:35) I have pasted in the notes our agenda for today Scarlet: (17:35) what do you guys think? nicolaMac: (17:35) big gold buddhas i like that Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:35) do u have an account on adobe connect with ur email as userneame and password? nicolaMac: (17:35) good gilbert ng: (17:36) thx scar Scarlet: (17:36) welcome gilbert ng: (17:36) 3 is good... tired tonight Scarlet: (17:36) yeah me too nicolaMac: (17:36) ok point 1 Scarlet: (17:36) wonderful job Ahlam did for our group Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:36) Lina is reading the analysis and she will get back to us soon... what shall we so in the mean time? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:36) Nic did a great job on the CCC nicolaMac: (17:36) honestly today seeing i was did 10 readings instead of 2 read but did not really analyse in too much detail nicolaMac: (17:37) i did eee not ccc!!!! nicolaMac: (17:37) eee was not that great - scar did ccc non? Scarlet: (17:37) we can discuss the approach we are taking for the guide? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:37) 10 readings.. I told u you were a bookworm Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:37) Lina is coming ....:) gilbert ng: (17:37) yeah scar just follow ur agenda Scarlet: (17:37) alright then nicolaMac: (17:37) ihow can u see her? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:37) I am in the magical lab and scarlet as well Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:37) hi Lina nicolaMac: (17:38) hi nicolaMac: (17:38) we full yundersatnd not having time today!!! Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:41) so our analysis is compete and sufficient enough to proceed? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:41) *complete Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:42) ok thanks Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:42) so we are the practitioners of the intervention? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:42) ssm (p) Scarlet: (17:43) i think we are trying to understand the approach to the guide gilbert ng: (17:43) what would a 'conceptual' idea be expressed in? any example? Scarlet: (17:43) what is involved table of contents nicolaMac: (17:43) i think it is going to be very reiterative Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:43) and the ssm(p) for the lat assignment/. Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:43) ? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:44) *last Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:44) opertaionalisation of concepts? gilbert ng: (17:44) ooo kinda like the architecture of the change to be implemented? gilbert ng: (17:44) who does what and when nicolaMac: (17:45) scar got an example of a uni that did this and what went wrong gilbert ng: (17:45) i thought it was some sort of theory lol thinking too much Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:45) so teh guide should aim at one audience which logically at ONE level? nicolaMac: (17:46) could we each do one level or whould we share a level? nicolaMac: (17:46) do you expect the guide to voer all the elvels? nicolaMac: (17:46) cover Scarlet: (17:46) if we were to attack all levels. we may wish to only tackle 1 level Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:47) but all aspects should be at one level, line, right? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:47) *lina Scarlet: (17:47) level of change Scarlet: (17:48) organisationa;, group, individual Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:48) individual level, institutional level? nicolaMac: (17:48) institution (uni) , department , teachers Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:48) but all target the same audience Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:50) got it Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:50) thanks nicolaMac: (17:50) ok so we write the headings ;-) Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:51) not from me... thank you very much for your valuable time nicolaMac: (17:51) thanks gilbert ng: (17:51) thx lina Scarlet: (17:51) thanks Lina Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:52) sure nicolaMac: (17:52) we are getting used to each other and working well togehter Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:52) bye nicolaMac: (17:52) thanks gilbert ng: (17:52) thx nicolaMac: (17:52) i have the next class at 7 guys Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:52) ok guys Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:53) are we meeting tmw? coz we need to agree on our TOC Scarlet: (17:53) what do you think about our approach Scarlet: (17:53) we will meet tomorrow if you all can make it Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:53) we be there gilbert ng: (17:53) yep tomorrow is fine Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:53) *will Scarlet: (17:53) cool Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:53) nic? nicolaMac: (17:54) tomorrow is thurs we are meant to meet so cool Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:54) so what our tasks for tmw scar? Scarlet: (17:54) we seem to be on track with our concept so shall we agree on what the necessary bits of the guide should be Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:54) shoud we do it tmw with all of use having their suggested TOC? Scarlet: (17:54) tasks - from TOC nicolaMac: (17:54) you have looked over my suggestion is that right scar? Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:54) *us Scarlet: (17:55) we need to get the guts of the guide together now Scarlet: (17:55) yes Nic i did and i have a question nicolaMac: (17:55) guys please try and have a look at some of the suggested guides i found Scarlet: (17:55) i think Lina has answered that though Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:55) downloaded them all nic:) nicolaMac: (17:55) i put in all levels info scar knowing we coild choose later Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:55) wiil look at them and have a TOC up.. as a suggestion Scarlet: (17:55) wonderful, thinking ahead Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:56) gotta go for know Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:56) *now Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:56) I am being so mixed up.. didn't have enough sleep yest nicolaMac: (17:56) bye Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:56) feeling like a Zombie! Scarlet: (17:56) i think we should all reiew the TOC on the wiki that Nic has provided us in line with the comments Lina has given us then agree to the content then assign things to do for each of us moving forward Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:57) sounds great Scarlet: (17:57) is this ok gilbert ng: (17:57) lol okok bb people see ya'll tom... yeah will do scar Scarlet: (17:57) wonderful Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:57) ok guys Scarlet: (17:57) will email the task gilbert ng: (17:57) thx Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:57) will have some rest and get bakc to you tomoroow Ahlam Al Rawahi: (17:58) bye gys