1962 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 3591 tain interests reserved by the United States By Mr. RUTHERFORD: PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS in and to certain property heretofore con­ H.R. 10595. A blll to facilitate the sale and veyed to such city; to the Committee on disposal of Government stocks of extra long Under clause 1 of rule XXII, private Armed Services. staple cotton; to the Committee on Armed bills and resolutions were introduced and By Mr. FARBSTEIN: Services. sever.ally referred as follows: H.R. 10589. A bill to amend the law re­ By Mr. WHARTON: By Mr. BOYKIN: lating to pay for postal employees; to the H.R. 10596. A bill to amend the Internal H.R. 10597. A bill for the relief of Preston Committee on Post Office and Civil Service. Revenue Code of 1954 to provide an addi­ H. Haskell, Jr., and Ellis Taylor; to the Com­ By Mr. JAMES C. DAVIS: tional $5,000 exemption from income tax for m ittee on the Judiciary. H.R. 10590. A bill to amend section 2 of amounts received as retirement annuities or By Mr. ELLIOTT: the Civil Service Retirement Act, with re­ pensions; to the Committee on Ways and H.R. 10598. A blll for the relief of Preston spect to coverage of former Members of Means. H. Haskell, Jr., and Ellis Taylor; to the Com­ Congress employed by the Government with­ By Mr. DAGUE: mitt ee on the Judiciary. out compensation or with nominal compen­ H.J. Res. 652. Joint resolution requesting By Mr. GRANT: sation; to the Committee on Post Office and the President to proclaim the week of July H.R. 10599. A bill for the relief of Preston Civil Service. 15 to 21, 1962, as National Drum Corps H. Haskell, Jr., and Ellis Taylor; to the Com­ By Mr. DERWINSKI: Week; to the Committee on the Judiciary. mittee on the Judiciary. H.R. 10591. A bill to amend section 620 of By Mr. RYAN of New York: By Mr. HUDDLESTON: the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 so as to H.J. Res. 653. Joint resolution authorizing H.R. 10600. A bill for the relief of Preston prohibit assistance under that act to the the President to invite the States of the H. Haskell, Jr., and Ellis Taylor; to the Com­ Union and foreign countries to participate mittee on the Judiciary. government of any country which has not By Mrs. KEE: established equitable procedures for com­ in the U.S. World Trade Fair to be held in New York 'City, N.Y., from May 11 through H.R.10601. A bill for the relief of Mrs. pensating U.S. citizens for loss of property Katina Nanouri Kokinas; to the Committee by expropriation; to the Committee on For­ May 22, 1962; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. on the Judiciary. eign Affairs. By Mr. MACDONALD: , By Mr. HEALEY: By Mr. LANE: H.J. Res. 654. Joint resolution designating H .R. 10602. A bill for the relief of Maria H.R. 10592. A bill making unlawful the the week of July 15 to July 21, 1962, as Na­ DaGloria Mello Pacheco, Fernanda Pacheco requirement for the payment of a poll tax tional Drum Corps Week; to the Committee Mendonca, Paulo Mendonca, and Maria Dae. as a prerequisite to voting in a primary or on the Judiciary. Mendonca; to the Committee on the Judi­ ciary. other election for national officers; to the By Mr. HEALEY: Committee on House Administration. By Mr. GEORGE P. MILLER: H.J. Res. 655. Joint resolution proposing an H.R.10603. A bill for the relief of Norman By Mr. KORNEGAY: amendment to the Constitution of the H.R. 10593. A bill to preserve wheat acreage McLeod Riach; to the Committee on the United States to abolish tax and property Judiciary. history; to the Committee on Agriculture. qualifications for electors in Federal elec­ By Mr. "PILCHER: By Mr. POAGE: tions; to the Committee on the Judiciary. H.R.10604. A bill for the relief of Mr. and H.R. 10594. A bill to amend section 872 By Mr. COOLEY: Mrs. Gordon C. Bryant; to the Committee on of the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1938, H. Con. Res. 450. Concurrent resolution the Judiciary. as amended, with respect to privately owned requesting the President of the United States By Mr. WHARTON: nonprofit agricultural ,research and experi­ to issue a proclamation designating the week H.R. 10605. A bill for the relief of Joan ment stations or foundations; to the Com­ of March 25, 1962, as Voluntary Overseas Aid Rosa Orr; to the Committee on the Judi­ mittee on Agriculture. Week; to the Committee on the Judiciary. ciary.

EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS The Little-People-to-Little-People mencing a most commendable program, On February 16, 1918, the people of but in enlisting the aid and support of Lithuania declared their independence Program his immediate friends until the plan from the czarist regime in Russia, and has expanded to national scope. for 22 short years were citizens of a free EXTENSION OF REMARKS How proud we must be of such young­ and independent state. During that 22- OF sters who are willing-yes, eager-to year period from 1918 to 1940, the people assume the responsibilities of citizenship of Lithuania proved themselves to be HON. JAMES ROOSEVELT at such an early .age. We are pleased peace loving, energetic, industrious, and 01' CALIFORNIA with the effect the little-people-to-little­ determined in the cause of free govern­ .IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES people letters will have in the children's ment, and the republic, admitted to the Wednesday, March 7, 1962 crusade for world education. We are League of Nations on September 22, 1921, proud of our young citizens who are became a welcome and respected mem­ Mr. ROOSEVELT. Mr. Speaker, there playing an active role in statesmanship ber of the world community. are committees in the House and Senate and world diplomacy. In 1940 Lithuania was overrun and which have spent many hours, in and And particularly as parents, we must annexed by the Soviets, and the Iron out of session, on the subject of juvenile not forget what heartwarming satis­ Curtain was placed between this small delinquency. Millions of dollars are be­ faction young Peter's efforts must give to Baltic state and the rest of the free ing spent every year, and will continue his father, our colleague, PETER w. world. Since that time the people of to be spent in the futw·e in an attempt RODINO, JR., of New Jersey. Lithuania have been subject to the op­ to turn the tide against the alarming pressive rule of the Communist regime. rate of increase in crime among the ' We all know that the same spirit members of our younger generation. which inspired independence in 1918, and How doubly refreshing it is, therefore, Lithuanian Independence which made Lithuania a respected mem­ to learn of the little-people-to-little­ ber of the world community for 22 years people project of Peter Rodino III, the EXTENSION OF REMARKS thereafter, is still present among the 10-year-old son of our distinguished col­ more than 3 million people of that land. leagu~ from New Jersey. OF We are also aware of the substantial Young Peter's approach to the problem HON. SAMUEL S. STRATTON contributions made to this country's of securing a peaceful world for himself, OF NEW YORK strength and freedom by Americans of his children and the generations to fol­ IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Lithuanian descent who, unlike their rel­ low will prove to be effective, without atives and friends behind the Iron Cur­ doubt. But of primary importance is Wednesday, March 7, 1962 tain, are free to celebrate this important Peter's awareness that a problem does Mr. STRA'ITON. Mr. Speaker, Feb­ occasion today. · exist, of· his desire to seek a solution, ruary 16 marked the 44th anniversary of Our faith in the ultimate victory of and of his initiative, not only in com- Lithuanian independence. freedom and self-determination for all 3592 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUS~ March 7 people is inspired by the spirit of the units in Europe. Secretary of the Air lion in clothing, and $25.3 million in Lithuanian people, and, as leaders of the Force Zuckert was most complimentary cash to over 100 million people. free world, we Americans must pledge, about these units and their accomplish­ In addition, agricultural commodities, on this occasion, all our efforts and ments and Gen. Curtis E.· LeMay, N.r with a Commodity Credit Corporation energies to this end. And the free world Force Chief of Staff, wrote these air value of $147.4 million were made avail­ would do well to remember that what has guardsmen as follows: able under Public Law 480 to the twice happened· to Lithuania could hap­ The movement of the newly federalized agencies. pen to any other nation that fails to ANG units to Europe was executed. in an or.: keep itself strong enough to defend its derly, emcient, and professional way. This liberty against aggression. required the utmost 1n leadership, planning, The Liberal Papers and cooperation on the part of all units and personnel involved. All obstacles were over­ come by ingenuity and determination in EXTENSION OF REMARKS spite of the extremely short preparation time OF Statement by the Honorable Joseph M. available. The end result of the safe and Montoya, of New Mexico, Praising Air expeditious arrival of the fighters should be HON. JAMES ROOSEVELT a source of great pride to all who had a part OF CALIFORNIA Reservists and Air National Guardsmen in the operation. I wish to offer my con­ IN ~E HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Since Recall to Active Duty gratulations for the outstanding manner in which this difficult and vitally important Wednesday, March 7, 1962 task was successfully accomplished. Mr. ROOSEVELT. Mr. Speaker, the EXTENSION OF REMARKS criticisms of some of my colleagues on OF In addition to the flight of these fight­ ers, Air Force Reserve and Air National the publication of a group of essays by HON. JOSEPH M. MONTOYA Guard squadrons entered on duty with admittedly distinguished authors, based OF NEW MEXICO f ow·-engine transport aircraft, the first upon the fear that an expression of views will corrupt American thought and IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES to be assigned to these components. In 3 months of active duty, the crews of bring about a new "Munich" is perhaps Wednesday, March 7, 19'62 these units fiew almost 4 million miles illustrative of the basic thing that is Mr. MONTOYA. Mr. Speaker, the on troop carrier and cargo missions. wrong with the Republican Party. Nation has indeed the right to be proud Also, there are many Air Guard tactical They .are afraid to trust their fellow and happy over our recent accomplish­ fighter and reconnaissance squadrons Americans. They believe their fell ow ment in achieving orbital flight of an which are on combat-ready active duty Americans must only have available one astronaut. And it was with pride that and poised for deployment wherever na­ side of a story, and that the right side I stood here this past Monday with all tional security may require. from the Republican point of view, or Members of the Congress applauding Mr. Speaker, these are only a few of the country will rush toward disaster Col. John H. Glenn, Jr., for his mag­ the accomplishments of our dedicated and a "Munich." nificent achievement. Yet, this wonder­ Air Reserve and Air National Guard Personally, I have faith in the Ameri­ ful American refused to accept our good units and I think all of us should be can poople. I believe they are better wishes for himself personally, and went aware of the magnificent job they have able to make a judgment when they out of his way to speak of all others done and are doing. In rising to -the read all views, from the far right, or involved in the Mercury program, and call in time of crisis, the record shows Birch Society position, to the far left, to acknowledge their significant ac­ convincingly that these air reservists and as well as those views of the so-called complishments. guardsmen are a valuable component of middle. The selflessness of this man, Mr. our defense structure and deserving of I doubt whether my Republican Speaker, reminded me that we might our high regard and prayerful thanks. friends have read the various articles tend at times to fail to acknowledge in "The Liberal Papers." It would make adequately the deeds of men behind the them better Americans to do so, even news, the men who do so much, but though such articles might not change about whom we know and hear so little. Resolution Calling Upon the President To · their rigid opinions. As an individual, At this time, I refer specifically to the I do not agree with many of the views Air Force Reserve and Air National Issue a Proclamation Declaring the expressed by the authors of "The Liberal Guard units who readily answered the Week of March 25, · t 962, as Vohintary Papers." But I am glad to have read Nation's call in time of crises and who them, as I am glad to have listened and today continue their duties and patrols . Overseas Aid Week read the speeches of such men as Messrs. with supreme devotion to duty. They Buckley, Schwarz, and the distinguished continue to perform their assigned tasks EXTENSION OF REMARKS Member of the other body from Arizona. with cheerful determination in spite of OF America. has made progress because personal and family difficulties, incon­ we have had a free expression of any veniences, and disruptions of civilian HON. HAROLD D. COOLEY and all views. From these have come pursuits. Secretary of Defense McNa­ OF NORTH CAROLINA sound decisions, and I am sorry to see mara has written the families of recalled IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES my Republican colleagues try to impugn reservists and guardsmen, has appro­ Wednesday, March 7, 1962 or be uncomplimentary to those who priately acknowledged the Nation's debt, still believe that this method is the best and has rendered the thanks of a grate­ Mr. COOLEY. Mr. Speaker, I have way to preserve our basic American way ful country. today introduced Concurrent Resolution of life. I think we should make it clear in 450. This resolution calls upon the Pres­ In this spirit, I would like to quote this chamber, Mr. Speaker, that the sac­ ident to issue a proclamation declaring from an American who might not be rifices of air reservists and guardsmen the week of March 25, 1962, as Volun­ labeled "liberal," but certainly would be and their families have been for a vital tary Over.seas Aid Week. considered a good American. An ar­ purpose and that the Nation does appre­ The record of accomplishments of the ticle by John Edgar Hoover, Director of ciate their continued service. It is not nonprofit voluntary agencies is a tribute the Federal Bureau of Investigation, of small significance to note that this not only to their prudence and ability, to from the American Bar Association is a continued willingess to serve since their partnership with our Government, Journal of February 1962, entitled Air Reserve unit~ are made up entirely but also to the American people whose "Shall It Be Law or Tyranny?" reads, in of volunteers who have embraced their generous support of these agencies has part, as follows: call to duty in the :finest traditions of made this splendid record possible. Our fight against communism must be a our Armed Forces and who lost no time At the present time 58 voluntary agen­ sane, rational understanding of the facts. in making their presence known. cies are actively engaged in people-to­ Emotional outbursts, extravagant name­ Air guardsmen fiew more than 200 Jet people programs in some 100 countries calling, gross exaggerations hinder our ef­ forts. We ~ust remember that many non­ fighters over the Atlantic within a month and areas. In 1961, these agencies dis­ Communists may legitimately on their own after recall, providing much needed tributed $12.4 million of self-help, edu­ oppose the same laws or take positions on fighter strength for Air Force combat cational, and medical supplies, $37 mil- issues of the day which are also held by the 1962 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 3593 Communists. Their opinions-though tem• small companies to the-largest electronic 123,200 to 215,000. In this same 5-year porarily coinciding with the party line-do complexes in the West. period, the number of graduate engi­ not make them Communists. Not at all. It is highly significant that 6 out of neers in electronics in the West has gone We must be very careful with our facts and not brand as a Communist any individual every 7 participating companies are up 100 percent-from 17 ,000 to 34,000. whose opinion may be different from our small business firms-fewer than 500 Nearly one of every six employees in elec­ own. Freedom of dissent is a great heritage employees-by Goverp.ment definition. tronic manufacturing firms in the West of America which we must treasure. Thus, the survey results are not distorted today has at least one degree in engi­ by the widespread buying of a few large neering. With such sentiments perhaps not companies. Rather, the results show A recent survey of WEMA member only the Republican leadership, but that States across the Nation benefit companies has shown that western elec­ most good Americans will agree. from the procurement practices of many tronic companies invest from each sales western companies. dollar five times as much in research and Shown below, by State, is the percent­ development as the average manufac­ Western Electronics Orders Go National age of western electronic companies pur­ turing firm in the.United States. Elec­ chasing materials, supplies, and equip­ tronic manufacturers in the West re­ ment for military end-use items in each ported that in 1961 they invested 8.5 EXTENSION OF REMARKS individual State: percent of sales in research and develop­ 0'11' Percent of companies purchasing in each ment. This compares to only 1. 7 per­ State cent for all U.S. manufacturing in­ HON. CRAIG HOSMER Rank of State: dustries. OP CALIFORNIA " New York------92.31 In summary, the West has been pacing IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Illinois------85. 26 electronic growth in the United States :M:assachusetts------82.05 Wednesday, March 'l, 1962 New Jersey______82.05 and will continue to do so because the Pennsylvania______77.56 companies in the Western States have Mr. HOSMER. Mr. Speaker, this Connecticut ______69. 87 year, the West will account for more built up a tremendous technological ca­ than one-fourth of all electronic manu­ OhiO------'------66. 67 pability that is unequaled anYWhere. Indiana------61.54 By investing heavily in research and de­ facturing in the United States. In so :M:ichigan------55. 77 velopment-and by exercising sound doing, it will continue to provide the Texas------53.85 technical management-they expect to technological leadership that has enabled WisconsinArizona------______39.7442.95 increase their share of the steadily ex­ this Nation to far surpass all others in panding U.S. electronic market. the development and application of elec­ · . :MinnesotaOregon------______38.39.74 46 tronic science to modem living. New Hampshire ______35. 26 Many large and significant military VVashington------35.26 contracts are being fulftlled by electronic Colorado------33.33 Increased Compensation for Postal companies in the Western States. The Maryland------31. 41 number of military awards that have Rhode Island----··------29. 49 Workers been made in this region are evidence of Northl\4issouri------Carolina______25.28.85 00 the West's technological capabilities and EXTENSION OF REMARKS Florida------23.72 of the western 'firms' outstanding per­ OJ' formance in quality, price, and delivery . Ilelaware------22.44 Nebraska------22.44 dependability. X:entuckY------21.15 HON. BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL All. estimated 215,000 people were di­ X:ansas------19.87 OJ' NEW YORK rectly employed in electronics in the Vermont------19.87 IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Western States at the beginning of this Tennessee------19.23 Wednesday, March 'l, 1962 year. Many thousands more have jobs Virginia----~------18.59 in allied industries that are dependent Iowa------17.95 Mr. ROSENTHAL. Mr. Speaker, al­ upon electronics. Maine------16.03 though I am the most recently elected But the significance of electronic ac­ SouthOklahoma Carolina------______12.8214. 74 Member of the House of Representatives, tivity in such States as California, Ore­ West Virginia ______12. 18 and as such would certainly not pre­ gon, Washington, and Arizona is felt by Utah------10.90 sume to tell the membership what to do. factories and business firms clear across AlabamaCleorgia------______8.338.97 I would like to take the liberty of mak­ the continent. For western companies ing a recommendation on behalf of our buy materials, components, and equip­ :MississippL------7. 69 postal employees. Louisiana ______..; 7. 05 ment for production of military end-use Wyoming______7. 05 There has been a bill introduced by items in the West from 49 States. More­ the ranking member of the House Co:::n­ over, the buying throughout the United New :M:exico------7. 05 mittee on Post Office and Civil Serv­ States is done not just by one or a few Nevada------5.13 ice-H.R. 9531-which would provide the western companies, but by many. Arkansas------Northilakota______2.56 postal workers with a well-deserved in­ For example, more than 90 percent of Idaho------2.56 crease in compensation and a liberali­ electronic companies in the West buy South Ilakota______1. 92 zation of the step and longevity increas­ materials in the State of New York. Hawaii ______:______1. 28 es. ' Because I feel that this legislation More than 80· percent do procurement Alaska------.64 is highly desirable and long overdue, I in Illinois, Massachusetts, and New Jer­ :M:ontana------am today introducing a companion bill sey. Well over half of the western firms On a regional basis WEMA's figures and would urge my colleagues to sup­ buy in such States as Pennsylvania and show 52 percent of its firms place orders port this legislation. Michigan, which have widely publicized in the west north-central region, 58 per­ The question of increased compensa­ depressed areas. cent in the west south-central region, tion for the postal employees has been Evidence of widespread procurement 94 percent in the east-north-central re­ before the Congress on previot:S occa­ by western companies was obtained in a gion, 34 percent in the east south-central sions and action has been taken to some­ special survey conducted in March 1962, region, 56 percent in the south Atlantic what alleviate the situation. However, by the Western Electronic Manufactur­ region, 97 percent in the middle Atlantic with the devaluation of the dollar and ers Association-WEMA. All WEMA region and 88 percent in the New Eng­ the continued spiral of living costs, fur­ member companies, some 325 in number, land region. ther assistance and consideration must received questionnaires requesting them Often overlooked in the maze of indus­ be given our Federal employees. Dur­ to specify the States in which they pur­ try statistics is the real reason for the ing the past years the salaries of these chase materials, components, or equip­ West's leadership in electronics-the employees have not kept pace with the ment for the production of military end­ technology capability that has been de­ increases granted those in private indus­ use items. A total of 156 companies­ veloped by western firms. Since 1957, try. Many workers have been forced to mostly in· California-responded. . The total employment in electronics in the work at additional employment, and in survey participants ranged from very West has increased 75 percent-from many instances it has been necessary for 3594 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE March 7 the wives to leave the home and seek Senator ANDERSON is a prime mover in - Mr. CHANCELLOR. Well, the wilderness bill work in order to supplement the family conservation legislation, a cosponsor of the has passed the Senate. Is that correct, sir? wilderness bill which is now before the Senator .ANDERSON. Yes, it has, and gone income in an effort to provide the bare House. He is chairman of the Senate In­ to the House. essentials. terior and Insular Affairs Committee. He Mr. CHANCELLOR. And from your vantage This group of employees has served is also a member of the commission which point, there on the Hill, I know Senators the American public well and faithfully prepared a report for the President and the don't often like to comment offi.cially on over the years and I earnestly believe Congress-the report on outdoor recreation what's going to happen in the House, but that their hard work and diligent efforts for America. With such credentials, Senator what do you think? should be rewarded. I therefore urge ANDERSON, we feel you are well equipped Senator ·ANDERSON. Well, we have a great that this legislation be enacted as quick­ to be our first guest, and we're very happy ally in the House in JOHN SAYLOR, Republi­ to have you and Martin Agronsky, that noted can, of Pennsylvania-I say that to show that ly as possible. walker who is standing there with you. this is bipartisan. I talked to JOHN a short Good morning, gentlemen. Martin, would time ago, and he said that he hoped it would you like to begin? pass the House-he believed it would.' The - Mr. AGRONSKY. One more credential, by chairman of the committee, the House In­ Television Transcript of February 28, the way, for Senator ANDERSON-former Sec­ terior Committee, Congressman ASPINALL, is retary of Agriculture in Mr. Truman's also a very fine man and a very loyal sup­ 1962, "Today" Program on Conser­ Cabinet? . porter of the wilderness idea. GRACIE PFOST vation Mr. CHANCELLOR. That's right. is another, and I think with these fine lead­ Mr. AGRONSKY. Senator, can you tell us ers we can expect favorable action in the what the President is going to recommend House. It's a little harder there, because you EXTENSION OF REMARKS in his message on conservation? I know you have the Rules Committee to worry with and OF have been talking to him about this. other things of that nature, but I think that Senator ANDERSON. I think he'll do his prospects are extremely good for its passage. own announcing, but I would be greatly HON. JOSEPH M. MONTOYA Mr. CHANCELLOR. Well, Se1'ator, one of the OF NEW MEXICO surprised if he doesn't deal with the · ques- · tion of water pollution, and air pollution; groups that is opposing the wilderness bill IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES if he doesn't deal with some of the recom­ is the National Lumber Manufacturing As­ sociation. We've had word from them that Wednesday, March 7, 1962 mendations in the Outdoor Recreation Re­ sources Review Commission's report. I 65 million acres of Federal land will be de­ Mr. MONTOYA. Mr. Speaker, under would be surprised if he doesn't suggest some nied future development and general recrea­ leave to extend my remarks in the things about maybe a Federal Conservation tional use, if the wilderness bill goes through. RECORD, I include the following tele­ Corps, similar to the old Civilian Conserva­ What do you say about that? tion Corps. Senator .ANDERSON. Well, I only wish they'd vision transcript of "Today," which ap­ take a look at the wilderness areas and peared on February 28, 1962: Mr. CHANCELLOR. Oh, really? Senator ANDERSON. I would also be sur­ decide how much timber ts on them. At Mr. CHANCELLOR. Well, tomorrow is the prised if he doesn't deal with seashore sav­ the present time we're not cutting all the day that President Kennedy is scheduled to ing a little bit, because I know that's dear timber we could cut. And the use of lumber send to Congress his message on conserva­ to his heart. He's lived along the coast is going down a little bit-aluminum siding tion. Now almost everybody in this country enough so that he's very interested. And comes in-various other things are developed. is willing to go on record in favor of con­ what we do to preserve the amount of sea­ But beyond that the timberlands that we servation, but there is a division of opinion shore that now is available and still can be have could be better utilized, there's not as to just what should be done about it. obtained for the public-in fact I think the too much commercial timber in these Beginn:ing with Theodore Roosevelt the con-. President's message on conservation is going wilderness areas. There may be some in servationists have put up a thin but vocifer­ to take place along with Theodore Roose­ the primitive areas-there's a difference be­ ous line of champions who have given battle velt's great message a long time ago. He is, tween them. In the early thirties, the Sec­ to preserve our natural resources. They have retary of Agriculture set up primitive areas, in my opinion, going to be a great leader~ ln deplored the destruction of land, timber, that field, and I believe his message will be a which were neither fish nor fowl; they didn't minerals, water resources, and wildlife. very, very strong one. declare them to be wilderness, but they took They have not been shy in accusing busi­ Mr. AGRONSKY. Well, leaders need followers. them out of the ordinary forest, and these ness interests of exploiting the land without What ls Congress going to do about his rec­ areas are going to be reappraised under the giving a thought to the future. ommendation? wilderness bill-many of them I think will Private enterprise has countered these Senator ANDERSON. I'm going to be one of be put back into ordinary forests, and I arguments by claiming that the conserva­ the followers, and speak to others. But we think the lumbermen should be interested tionists are stirring the ashes of old crimes. have already done more I think than many in that. But beyond that I have ridden They say that modern miners, ranchers, Congresses have done. We have helped horseback over some of these wilderness lumbermen, and other businessmen recog­ establish the Cape Cod seashore area; we're areas, and I think that the opportunities nize conservation as something which is in working on other areas like Point Reyes in for keeping them as they are are far more their own interest. They say they can best California; we had a hearing yesterday on favorable to the general cause of conserva­ practice conservation with a minimum of Padre Island, and reported that blll out, tion than opening them up for exploitation. Government direction. Some claim that or will today-and so it goes. We're trying The Gila wilderness in my State, the very conservation is the smokescreen which con­ our very best to make sure that things like _first one, and the largest one, is a sample ceals another Federal grab for power. But the wilderness bill pass. The President of a fine tract of land that's useful for people above this rather ancient quarrel there gave us tremendous help on the wilderness to study how things were originally. But loqms a relatively new danger-that is, the bill, and I believe he delighted the hearts nobody in his right mind would cut very threat that our wilderness will be smothered of all those who are tremendously interested much timber from it. by those who love it most. An expanding in this great subject of trying to make sure I just hope the lumber people are wrong, population with increased leisure time is that we don't lose all the things that tell and I believe they are. being attracted more and more to outdoor us what this continent 'was like when the Mr. CHANCELLOR. Well, if I could pursue recreation, and thus we now face the prob­ white man first settled it. _ this, sir, why do you think they've taken this lem of how to re-create ourselves without Mr. AGRONSKY. Senator, I do want to hear attitude about the bill? laying waste to the countryside. from you something that interested me-this Senator ANDERSON. For the same reason Well, beginning with this half hour on Conservation Corps-what is that? that the oil people are worried about it. "Today," we are going to present a series of Senator .ANDERSON. Well, it's Senator HUM· They hate to see anything put out of the studies on the subject of conservation. We PHREY's idea. He has suggested that the possibility they could reach out and take it hope to present all sides of the question Civilian Conservation Corps did fine work, if they want it. The oil people are worried and that's kind of a big order. It embrace~ back in the depression, and as a man who about the area, and I said to a very promi­ a lot of territory, but we will do our best was one of Harry Hopkins' relief adminis­ nent oil man: "Suppose you come in and offer to be objective about this issue because we trators, I agree with him. I think-the boys us a dollar an acre, as you do for any rough realize it is sensitive to a number of people. went into the areas and created parks, and land, and we'll give you the whole wilder­ Today we will begin with an examination trailways, and roads-there's a great deal of ness area and let you explore it-it will be of the various conservation measures which unemployment among the young now. I so many million dollars a year." He said, "I are before Congress, or which are in the wouldn't want it"-but he wants it left open offing. don't know what the President's going to say, but I would be surprised if he doesnt' give so he could take it, and I just think that Our guest will be Senator CLINTON P. AN­ Senator HUMPHREY'S bill a little pat on the he worries too much about it. DERSON, the Democratic Senator from New back, because this offers some possib111ties Mr. CHANCELLOR. Sir, are there any cities Mexico, and we'll be tailking with him in for doing the work that we want done at under the wilderness bill that would have just a few moments. very low cost, because it will be really work _unemployment problems if you were to take Washington will be next, where Martin for young men who do not find other op­ over and make wildernesses out of areas that Agronsky is sitting with Senator CLINTON portunities for employment. are now being commercially utilized near ANDERSON. Mr. AGKONSKY. John? those towns? 1962 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE 3595 Senator ANDERSON. We're not · proposing Now the Outdoor Recreation Resources Re­ Mr. CHANCELLOR. Senator,. you have sppn­ that 'these areas that are ·involved 1n the view· Commission found that people going sored a blll ~ q9ngress involving V{ater r~­ wilderness bill are areas .that already are out tor recreation. don't want· to go too far ~ources. Does that tie 1n with the .overall either in wilderness or 1n prlmltive status from home. They enjo)I· walking, they enjoy wilderness blll in any way~ " · as far. as the Forest Service is concerned., or bicycle riding, they enjoy canoeing, but they Senator · ANDERSON. No. That's more to they're parts of national parks under. Fed­ don't want to.go too tar, and 1t the people take care of the general situation that arises eral domain. Nobody in the city would be in Chicago could have this great weekend when we try to tell you what's going to hap­ worried about the passage of this bill. But opportunity in the Indiana Dunes, I think pen to water. We're going to be awfully on the contrary people in the cities would they would enjoy it, and I think that as the short of water, in cities and elsewhere in a have a chance to get out into the - open population bullds up in the cities, because short time--even in great areas ·like Los country and show their children. something you're bullding up in the cities very rapidly, Angeles they have problems of water supply, about what this country was like originally. we need to have places where future genera­ and more and more our cities are going to be I think that's of great value to the country. tions can go. · You don't want to get to the deficit areas as far as water is concerned. Mr. AGRONSKY. Senator, I had ye_sterday point where you have to have priority in We have to find something we can do, and from your colleague, PAUL DOUGLAS, both a order to get to the Yellowstone National the water resources bill says let's pool all telephone call and a very full envelope on Park, and· you're almost there now. If you the engineering knowledge we have and try the Indiana Sand Dunes b111. We're going want to go to Yellowstone Park in your auto­ to find out what we can do to save the to move from the forest to the seashore for mobile, you'd better be real sure you're not cities from facing a great water shortage in a moment. What about our seashores­ going on a day when somebody else has years to come. I think it's a fine b111. what's happening there-is it covered to any planned to go there. That's too bad. We Mr. CHANCELLOR. Martin, one of the things extent in the b111? ought to develop these areas, and I believe I'm sure we'd both like to talk about ls this Senator ANDERSON. Well, yes, there is a the Park Service wm. But we ought also whole business of a Federal takeover that special b111 on the acquisition of seashores, to have areas close to the great cities. has been charged against this kind of legis­ which has passed the Senate and gone to the Mr. AGRONSKY. Standing room only in the lation. Would you care to frame a short House, and I was very happy to sponsor it. wilderness. question on that? We suggest that the Government should put Senator ANDERSON. Well, it isn't that bad, Mr. AGRONSKY. Well, I think it's framed, up about $25 mlllion a year to match the but it's pretty rough to try to find a spot really---do you feel, as many of the critics money that the States might put up, and when you go to Yellowstone now because of the conservation bill contend, that it is counties might put up, municipalities, in there are so many cars, and so few trails. really a way of the Federal Government order to acquire seashore areas. Had we I'd advocate opening up more areas of Yel­ moving in and taking over what really pri­ done this 20 years ago, we could have ac­ lowstone-I believe that will be done. But vate industry shoUld develop? quired all we wanted for a few million dol­ along with it, you need to provide for the Mr. ANDERSON. Not at all. Not at an. lars. Now the price ts going up very, very average person close to home a spot for The average State can't afford to do ft for -rapidly, and that's what PAUL DOUGLAS is recreation. That's what we're trying to do ltself. For instance, why shoUld New Mex­ worried about, about the dunes-he wants with Indiana, that's what we tried to do ico provide a park-we've got an the parks with Cape Cod-we had all the problems we want for ourselves. It becomes a na­ to save them now, while it's financially pos­ tional problem, and therefore the Nation sible. I agree with him, it ought to be done. you could imagine in Cape Cod, and a very prominent Massachusetts young Senator tried has to take charge of trying to find these We ought not to chop away the industrial places, without regard to State lines. chances of Indiana, but we ought to take to-get a bill through, and he didn't succeed. But when he got to living on Pennsylvania Mr. AGRONSKY. John. these remaining stretches of land and try to Avenue, we an pitched in and tried to save Mr. CHANCELLOR. I Just want to say thank preserve them. If we do it now, the people the area that he and Senator Saltonstall you, Senator, for spending this time with us of Chicago, for example, and the people of had worked to save. And it's a fine thing this morning, and all good luck to you in northern Indiana will have a perfectly won­ for those people, and will be. There are your work, and every time we go for a walk derful recreational area. Most of the na­ other areas, like the Point Reyes area in Cali­ in the wilderness we'll · begin thinking of tional parks are where the people aren't. fornia, that's going to be a very remarkably you-not that we hadn't thought of you be­ They're out in my State, they're in Colorado, fine establishment, and those people with all fore. And Martin, thanks to you. I went they're around various other areas, and the walking with Agronsky last weekend tn the recreational opportunities that Califor­ Washington 1n Rock Creek Park, which is a population is limited 1n those areas. We nia has, can stlll stand Just a little bit of great example of a park, 1n a great Ameri­ need to be able to attract people from all seashore for the commonfolk. The rich have can city. I think that just about brings us over the country. no trouble finding a place to go. to the conclusion of this hour.

throughout the world. Imbue them with THE JOURNAL SENATE wisdom, and give to them sound insights and understandings, so that their judg­ On request of Mr. MANSFIELD, and by THURSDAY, MARCH 8, 1962 ments, like Thine own, may be true and unanimous consent, the reading of the righteous altogether. Journal of the proceedings of Monday, The Senate met at 12 o'clock meridian, March 5, 1962, was dispensed with. and was called to order by the Hon­ Guide Thou our footsteps, that we orable J. J. HICKEY, a Senator from the may ever walk in Thy holy ways; and in so doing, may we fulfill the stewardship State of Wyoming. REPORTS OF A COMMITTEE SUB-• Rev. Elmore Brown, minister, St. of resPonsibility and service we have John's Methodist Church, Staunton, pledged to Thee. MITTED DURING ADJOURNMENT Va., offered the following prayer: Hear this, our prayer, Most Holy Lord .God, for to Thee we ascribe all majesty, Pursuant to the order of the Senate O Thou who art the Eternal God, and' dominion, and power, forever and ever. of March 5, 1962, the following reports whose purposes are not disturbed by Amen. of a committee was submitted on March the accidents of time, we appear Lefore 6, 1962: Thee this day in full assurance that this . By Mr. BIBLE, from the Committee on DESIGNATION OF ACTING PRESI­ universe is in Thy control. 1 Interior and Insular Affairs, with amend­ Across the"' many centuries Thou hast DENT PRO TEMPORE ments: S. 4. A bill to provide for the establish­ called men to be cosharers with Thee The legislative clerk read the following ment of the Padre Island National Seashore and with one another in the task of letter: (Rept. No. 1226); and perfecting Thy creation. · U.S. SENATE, S.J. Res. 29. Joint resolution providing We most humbly thank Thee for the PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE, for the establishing of the former dwelling place Thou hast permitted us to take in Washington, D.C., March 8, 1962. house of Alexander Hamilton as a national the affairs of the world as we have sought To the Senate: monument (Rept. No. 1_227) • . Being temporarily absent from the Senate, to make our great Nation a symbol of I appoint Hon. J. J. HICKEY, a Senator from righteousness, of good will, 'and of peace. the State of Wyoming, to perform the duties We earnestly pray for Thy divine bless­ of the Chair during_my absence. MESSAGES FROM THE PRESIDENT ing to be upon those within these Halls CARL HAYDEN, Messages in writing from the Presi­ who are called to render mighty deci­ President pro tempore. dent of the United States were com­ sion8 calculated to affect the destiny of Mr. IDCKEY thereupon took the chair municated to the Senate by Mr. Miller, millions of Thy childien at home and as Acting President pro tempore. one of his secretaries.