Second Session – Forty-First Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXX No. 9 - 1:30 p.m., Thursday, December 1, 2016 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-First Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP BINDLE, Kelly Thompson PC CHIEF, Kevin Point Douglas NDP CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC CURRY, Nic Kildonan PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FLETCHER, Steven, Hon. Assiniboia PC FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Clifford Emerson PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake PC JOHNSTON, Scott St. James PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLASSEN, Judy Kewatinook Lib. LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMOUREUX, Cindy Burrows Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MARTIN, Shannon Morris PC MAYER, Colleen St. Vital PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew, Hon. Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Arthur-Virden PC REYES, Jon St. Norbert PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron, Hon. St. Paul PC SELINGER, Greg St. Boniface NDP SMITH, Andrew Southdale PC SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC SWAN, Andrew Minto NDP TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WHARTON, Jeff Gimli PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian, Hon. Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC YAKIMOSKI, Blair Transcona PC 257 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, December 1, 2016 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Committee on Public Accounts presents the Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, following– from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as Some Honourable Members: Dispense. may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our Madam Speaker: Dispense. province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Your Standing Committee on Public Accounts Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom and know presents the following as its First Report. it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the Meetings glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen. Your Committee met on the following occasions in the Legislative Building: Please be seated. th th • January 28, 2015 (4 Session, 40 Legislature) ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS • November 4, 2015 (4th Session, 40th Legislature) • November 30, 2016 (2nd Session, Madam Speaker: Introduction of bills? No? 41st Legislature) INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Matters under Consideration Bill 210–The Children's Advocate Act • Public Accounts for the fiscal years ending Ms. Nahanni Fontaine (St. Johns): I move, March 31, 2014 (Volumes 1, 2, 3 and 4) seconded by the member for The Pas (Ms. Lathlin), • Public Accounts for the fiscal years ending that Bill 210, The Children's Advocate Act; Loi sur March 31, 2015 and 2016 (Volumes 1, 2 and 3) le protecteur des enfants, be now read a first time. • Auditor General's Report – Follow-Up of Motion presented. Recommendations – dated May 2016 Ms. Fontaine: Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. I don't have my– o Accounts and Financial Statements sorry, Madam Speaker. Committee Membership I think that The Children's Advocate Act is Committee Membership for the January 28, 2015 important so that we can move forward in respect meeting: of an independent Child Advocate office who • has expanded authority and mandate in respect of Hon. Mr. DEWAR advocacy for all of Manitoba's children. • Hon. Mr. GERRARD • Mr. HELWER (Chairperson) Miigwech. • Mr. JHA • Mr. MALOWAY Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to • Mr. MARCELINO adopt the motion? [Agreed] • Mr. MARTIN Any further introduction of bills? • Mr. PEDERSEN • Mr. SARAN COMMITTEE REPORTS • Mr. SCHULER Standing Committee on Public Accounts • Mr. WIEBE (Vice-Chairperson) First Report Substitutions received prior to committee proceedings on January 28, 2015: Mr. Matt Wiebe (Chairperson): I wish to present the First Report of the Standing Committee on Public • Mr. MARTIN for Mr. FRIESEN Accounts. • Mr. SARAN for vacancy 258 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2016 Committee Membership for the November 4, 2015 Motions agreed to at the November 30, 2016 meeting: Standing Committee meeting: • Hon. Mr. DEWAR THAT this Committee recommend that in future • Hon. Mr. GERRARD meetings dealing with the Public Accounts, printed • Mr. HELWER (Chairperson) copies of volume 4 will not be distributed to the • Mr. FRIESEN members of the Committee. • Mr. JHA Agreements: • Mrs. LATHLIN Your Committee agreed to conclude consideration of • Mr. MALOWAY Accounts and Financial Statements of the Auditor • Mr. MARCELINO General's Report – Follow-Up of Recommendations • Mr. PIWNIUK – dated May 2016 at the November 30, 2016 • Mrs. STEFANSON meeting. • Mr. WIEBE (Vice-Chairperson) Reports Considered and Adopted: Substitutions received prior to committee proceedings on November 4, 2015: Your Committee has considered the following report and has adopted the same as presented: • Mr. PIWNIUK for Mr. SCHULER • Mrs. STEFANSON for Mr. PEDERSEN • Public Accounts for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2014 (Volumes 1, 2, 3 and 4) Committee Membership for the November 30, 2016 meeting: Reports Considered but not Passed: • Mr. BINDLE Your Committee has considered the following • Mr. HELWER (Vice-Chairperson) reports but did not pass them: • Mr. JOHNSTON • Auditor General's Report – Follow-Up • Ms. KLASSEN of Recommendations – dated May 2016 • Mr. MALOWAY (Accounts and Financial Statements – concluded • Mr. MARCELINO consideration of) • Mrs. MAYER • • Mr. MICHALESKI Public Accounts for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2015 (Volumes 1, 2 and 3) • Ms. MORLEY-LECOMTE • Mr. WIEBE (Chairperson) • Public Accounts for the fiscal year ending • Mr. YAKIMOSKI March 31, 2016 (Volumes 1, 2 and 3) Officials Speaking on Record at the Mr. Wiebe: I move, seconded by the honourable January 28, 2015 meeting: member for Brandon West (Mr. Helwer), that the • Mr. Norm Ricard, Acting Auditor General of report of the committee by received. Manitoba • Hon. Mr. DEWAR Motion agreed to. • Mr. Jim Hrichishen, Deputy Minister of Finance TABLING OF REPORTS Officials Speaking on Record at the Hon. Ron Schuler (Minister of Crown Services): I November 4, 2015 meeting: wish to present the Quarterly Financial Report for • Mr. Norm Ricard, Auditor General of Manitoba the Manitoba Liquor & Lotteries Corporation for the • Hon. Mr. DEWAR three months ended June 30th, 2016. • Mr. Jim Hrichishen, Deputy Minister of Finance Hon. Cathy Cox (Minister of Sustainable Officials Speaking on Record at the Development): I am pleased to table the Sustainable November 30, 2016 meeting: Development Innovations Fund 2015-2016 annual report. • Mr. Norm Ricard, Auditor General of Manitoba • Hon. Mr. FRIESEN Hon. Cliff Cullen (Minister of Growth, • Mr. Jim Hrichishen, Deputy Minister of Finance Enterprise and Trade): I am pleased to table the December 1, 2016 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 259 2014-2015 annual report for the Manitoba Labour Mr. Matt Wiebe (Concordia): Madam Speaker, Board. today is World AIDS Day. It gives us an important opportunity to recognize the advancements that have Hon. Cameron Friesen (Minister of Finance): been made in the fight against AIDS, bring attention Madam Speaker, I rise today to table the Fidelity and support to those who live with AIDS every day Bonds crime insurance statement. and highlight the work that has yet to be done in MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS order to eradicate the disease. Madam Speaker: The required 90 minutes' notice Madam Speaker, in Manitoba, organizations prior to routine proceedings was provided in like Nine Circles Community Health Centre accordance with rule 26(2). provide support, counselling and the community for Manitobans living with AIDS. Would the honourable Minister of Health please proceed with his statement. Last year, 105 new cases were reported in Manitoba. We also know that the impact spreads far World AIDS Day beyond those individuals to their families, friends, Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Health, and communities, who are all affected when a loved Seniors and Active Living): I rise to today to mark one is diagnosed. World AIDS Day, which has been held annually on Days like today are a time for events, for December 1st since 1988. recognition and for fundraising. Fundraisers help Today there are 10 landmarks around Canada raise money and awareness, but they do more than that will be illuminated in red in some way to mark that. They also break down the stigma and show World AIDS Day, including McMahon Stadium, the how Manitobans living with AIDS are still fierce CN Tower in Toronto and Vancouver City Hall, contributors to our province. I support the work amongst others. Each member of this Legislature is being done by all community organizations to also wearing a red ribbon today. remove the stigma around HIV/AIDS. There are 35 million people living with HIV Madam Speaker, I'd like to thank the around the world, and more than 75,000 of those many professionals, health-care workers, volunteers, people live in Canada, with a new diagnosis in researchers, advocates and community organizations Canada taking place every three hours. who dedicate their lives to the fight against AIDS.