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Vol. 773 Monday No. 3 23 May 2016 PARLIAMENTARYDEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDEROFBUSINESS Questions Airports: Heathrow Third Runway ................................................................................131 Sport: Anti-doping .........................................................................................................134 Nuclear Reactors............................................................................................................135 European Union: United Kingdom Membership...........................................................139 Asset Freezing (Compensation) Bill [HL] First Reading...................................................................................................................142 Modern Slavery (Transparency in Supply Chains) Bill [HL] First Reading...................................................................................................................142 Register of Arms Brokers Bill [HL] First Reading...................................................................................................................142 Renters’ Rights Bill [HL] First Reading...................................................................................................................142 Bread and Flour Regulations (Folic Acid) Bill [HL] First Reading...................................................................................................................143 Charities Committee Licensing Act 2003 Committee Financial Exclusion Committee NHS Sustainability Committee Motions to Agree ............................................................................................................143 Queen’s Speech Debate (3rd Day) ..........................................................................................................143 Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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This issue of the Official Report is also available on the Internet at https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2016-05-23 The first time a Member speaks to a new piece of parliamentary business, the following abbreviations are used to show their party affiliation: Abbreviation Party/Group CB Cross Bench Con Conservative DUP Democratic Unionist Party GP Green Party Ind Lab Independent Labour Ind LD Independent Liberal Democrat Ind SD Independent Social Democrat Ind UU Independent Ulster Unionist Lab Labour LD Liberal Democrat LD Ind Liberal Democrat Independent Non-afl Non-affiliated PC Plaid Cymru UKIP UK Independence Party UUP Ulster Unionist Party No party affiliation is given for Members serving the House in a formal capacity, the Lords spiritual, Members on leave of absence or Members who are otherwise disqualified from sitting in the House. © Parliamentary Copyright House of Lords 2016, this publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 131 Airports: Heathrow Third Runway[23 MAY 2016] Airports: Heathrow Third Runway 132 House of Lords Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: What is important when it comes to the EU referendum is that we deal Monday 23 May 2016 with the facts, which should be presented by those on both sides of the argument to allow the good people 2.30 pm of our country to make that decision. It is not just an important decision for this generation but perhaps Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark. one of the most important lifetime decisions that people will make. On the issue of EU skies, and indeed referring back to the initial point made by my noble Airports: Heathrow Third Runway friend, the UK is an important hub in the international Question aviation sector and will remain so as we move forward. 2.36 pm Asked by Lord Spicer Lord Lea of Crondall (Lab): My Lords, would the Minister surmise that in the scenario put forward by To ask Her Majesty’s Government what estimates the noble Lord who asked the Question, all those they have made of the impact of the alternative people flying out of Heathrow would be on a one-way outcomes of the European referendum on a decision ticket? to build a third runway at Heathrow airport. Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: I speak as a Minister TheParliamentaryUnder-Secretaryof State,Department for Her Majesty’s Government, and I am sure that my forTransportandHomeOffice(LordAhmadof Wimbledon) noble friend Lord Spicer can speak for himself. With (Con): My Lords, the outcome of the EU referendum regard to the importance of the decision on south-east for particular sectors, including the UK’saviation sector, expansion, I think we all agree that it is important that would depend on the relationship agreed between the we move forward on this decision. As I have said EU and the UK if there was a vote to leave. This would before, the Davies commission has made a number of have to be negotiated using the detailed processes set recommendations and the Government are considering out in the EU treaty. It is the Government’s position the important environmental issues, which I believe that the UK will be stronger, safer and better off in a are considerations to be taken into account before a reformed EU. The Government have already accepted final decision is made. the case for airport expansion in the south-east and we are continuing to consider the three shortlisted options. Lord Tebbit (Con): My Lords, I remind the House that I had some experience for many years as an airline Lord Spicer (Con): My Lords, I am not quite sure pilot before the days of the European Union. Good what that means, but it was a difficult Question. I have gracious, there were international air routes, governed enormous respect for my noble friend. Does he think by ICAO, all over the world, including across Europe, that if we left the EU the growth of air traffic would and it is ICAO that still does that now. It is no good be so great that, with British businessmen going around the noble Lord shaking his head; he is merely displaying the world creating new markets, it is questionable that his ignorance to greater effect. building just a single new runway would be sufficient? I ask him further whether today’s Treasury forecast Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: Of course, my noble is not just the latest in a long line of famous people friend has expertise on this; we heard about one-way producing similar forecasts. I once earned my living flights, but as one can see there was certainly a two-way out of econometric forecasting, and I am ashamed flight when my noble friend was an airline pilot, because it is somewhere between sophisticated guesswork because he has returned and contributed again today. and mendacity. He makes an important point: ICAO is an important part of ensuring the international development of aviation and dealing with our current security issues. Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: I thank my noble friend for his persistence on this issue. He talked of more than one runway, and I am reminded of the words in Lord Soley (Lab): Can the Minister confirm that, in “Oliver Twist”, “You want more?”. Nevertheless, we or out of the EU, we will need a hub airport fit for await the final decision. As I have said to the House on purpose? Can he tell us how soon after 23 June he will a number of occasions, we are moving forward on the make that decision? recommendations of the Davies commission, and we will conclude further work in this respect by the summer. Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: To answer the noble Lord’s first question: yes, I agree with him. As I have Lord Bradshaw (LD): My Lords, does the Minister said before from this Dispatch Box, the referendum agree that mischief-making about the referendum, such will take place on 23 June, and we will conclude as we have just heard from the Benches opposite, is further work on the airports decision by the summer. irrelevant to the situation? The European Union, through the single skies policy, is developing a network of air Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Con): My Lords, on the corridors over Europe that will simplify flying, reduce subject of one-way tickets, what is the Government’s pollution and bring all sorts of benefits to the aviation view on airline bosses, such as Ryanair’s, offering industry. discounted tickets for people to come and vote, and 133 Airports: Heathrow Third Runway [LORDS] Sport: Anti-doping 134 [LORD FORSYTH OF DRUMLEAN] Sport: Anti-doping how does that relate to the Representation of the Question People Act? Did we not stop all that kind of thing in the 19th century? 2.44 pm Asked by Lord Addington Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: I will not challenge my To ask Her Majesty’s Government what progress noble friend’s knowledge of history in this respect. On has been made in international co-operation on the referendum, the important thing is that the enforcing global standards in governance and anti- Government have been clear that all those who are doping in sport. entitled to vote on this important issue of our membership of the European Union should be given the right to do just that. The Earl of Courtown (Con): My Lords, at the Prime Minister’s anti-corruption summit on 12 May, the International