Friday, July 26, 1991 Tenth Series, Vol. II, No. 13 Sravana 4, 1913 (Saka)
l o k s a b h a d e b a t e s (English Version)
First Session (Tenth Lok Sabha)
(Vol. II contains Nos. 11 to 20)
LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT N E W D E L H I Price : Rs. 6.00 [Or i g i n a l En g l i s h proceedings i n c l u d e d i n En g l i s h Versio n a i Or i g i n a l H i n d i proceedings i n c l u d e d i n H i n d i v e r s i o n w i l l be t r ea te d a s a u t h o r it a t iv e a n d n o t t h e translation thereof .] CONTENTS
[Tenth Series, Vol. II First Session, 199111913 (Saka)}
No. 13, Friday, July 26, 1991/Sravana 4, 1913 (Saka)
C o l u m n s Obituary Reference 1_2
Oral Answers to Questions : 2_32 ^Starred Question Nos. 163, 164, 166, 167, 171 and 172
Written Answers to Questions : 32—246 Starred Question Nos. 165, 168, 169, 170 32-47 and 173 to 182 Unstarred Question Nos. 640 to 722 and 724- 47—246 to 780
Papers Laid on the Table 274 —288
Statement by Minister 289—309 Requests of some Coal Producing State Govern- ments for increase in rates of royalty on Coal Shri P. A. Sangma
Joint Committee on Offices of Profit 309—312 Motion Re, Constitution of Committee - Adopted
Matters Under Rule 377 313 -318 (i) Need to instruct Haryana Government for early 313 completion of the portion of Link Channel of Ganga Canal falling under its Jurisdiction Shri Birbal (ii) Need to provide more infrastructural facilities at 313 -314 Trivandrum Airport Shri A. Charles
The Sign J marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member.
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Co l u m n s (iii) Need to prevent deforestation in the Coastal 314—-315 areas of Srikakulam district of Andhra Pradesh Dr. Vishwanatham Kanithi
(iv) Need to take steps to check the growing unlawful 315 activities in border areas of Nepal Shri Ram Nagina Mishra
(v) Need to establish a University in Pumea, Bihar 316 Shri Syed Shahabuddin
(vi) Need to allocate adequate quota of fertilizers to 317 Orissa and Madhya Pradesh through the Market- ing Division of Hindustan Fertilizer Corporation Shri Sivaji Patnaik
(vii) Need to take steps for production and beauti- 318 fication of Jhansi Fort and palace of Rani Jhansi in Uttar Pradesh Shri Rajendra Aenihotri
Announcement by the Chair 323—324. 373—374 (i) Transaction of Private Members’ Business 323—324 (ii) Cancellation of the Sitting of the jjjHouse 373 -3 7 4
Resolution re. steps for maintaining status quo of reli- 3 25-373 gious shrines and places of worship
Shri Sudarsan Raychaudhary 325—327
Mahant Abedya Nath 328—333
Shri Sriballav Panigrahi 333—341
Shri Devendra Prasad Yadav 341—350
Shri Mohan Vishnu Rawle 352 -357
Shrimati Vijaya Raje Scindia 357 -363
Shrimati Malini Bhattacharya 363—371
Shri Sharad Dighe 371—373 (iii)
C o l u m n s Business of the House 374—377
Half-an-hour Discussion 378- 392 Delegation of powers to CC1&E Dr. Laxmi Narayan Pandeya 378—384
Shri Santosh Kumar Gangwar 384—385
Shri Sobhana Dreswara R^o Vadde 385—386
Prof. Prem Kumar Dhumal 386
Shri E. Ahamed 386 387
Shri P. Chidambaram 387 —392 LOK SABHA DEBATES
LOK SABHA We deeply mourn the loss of this friend and I am sure the House will join me in conveying our condolences to the bereaved family.
The House may now stand in sil- ence for a short while as a mark of Friday, July 26, 1991 jSravafia 4, 1913 respect to the deceased. (Saka) The Members then stood in silence for a short while SHRI NiRMAL KANTI CHAT- TERJEE: What about obituary re- ference of Dr. V.K.R.V. Rao? The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock MR. SPEAKER: We are getting the confirmation. We are following the procedure. [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair.] Q. No. 163.
OBITUARY REFERENCE
[English] 11.03 Hrs. ' MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Members, I have to inform the House ORAL ANSWERS TO pf the sad demise of one of our for- QUESTIONS mer colleague Shri Kadiyala Gopala [English] Rao. Issue of Bonds by Konkan Railway Shri Kadiyala Gopala Rao was a Project Authorities member of the First Lok Sabha dur- ing 1952-57. He represented Gudi- *163. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISH- vada constituency of the then State of NAN: Will the Minister of FIN- Madras. ANCE be pleased to state: A dedicated political and social (a) whether the Konkan Railway worker, he took part in the movement Project authorities had sought permis- for social reforms amongst women sion for issue of Bonds; and conducted political classes to jnake them aware of their rights. (b) if so, whether the permission has since been granted: He was associated with various organisations connected with the wel- (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and fare of peasants in different capacities. (d) how the Government propose Shri Rao passed away on 2 July, to make resources available for this 1991 at the age of 79. vital project? 3 Oral Answers JULY 26, 1991 Oral Answers 4
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN keenest interest in this project was THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE: tbe present Defence Minister. In (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): spite of all these, 1 find that still the operation scuttle continues. The Cor- (a) Yes, Sir. poration asked for Rs. 250 crores in the first year. Part (b) of the ariSwer (b) Yes, Sir. Permission has already reads as follows: been granted to Indian Railway Fin- ance Corporation for raising Rs. 150 “Permission has already been grant- crores by way of 9% tax free Bonds ed to Indian Railway Finance Cor- to meet tbe requirements of Konkan poration for raising Rs. 150 Railway Project during the current crores...? financial year. (c) and (d) Do not arise. It is Rs. 100 crores less, when ac- tually it should anywhere gp to SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN. Rs. 400 crores. 1 would like to know, Sir, 1 am sure, the hon. Finance Mini- from the Minister when was this de- ster would agree with me that one of cision taken, the date on which it was the major distortions of our develop- conveyed to the Corporation and why ment process has been the regional it was Rs. 100 crores less than what imbalance. One of the worst areas was sought. to suffer in this regard has been the coastal belt from Bombay to Manga- SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: lore. This has been a missing link Actually the original cost was Rs. in the Indian Railway system right 1043 crores. One aspect I have to from the beginning because it did not mention here is that, not only the suit the British Imperialism. There was Railways but the State Governments no troops movement. The National are also there. The other partners Transport Policy Committee strongly are the State Governments of Kerala, advocated for this line and Mr. T. A. Karnataka and Goa. The ratio of Pai had initiated the process. But 1 percentage has been fixed. The Rail- must compliment my colleagues Shri ways would get 51 per cent of the George Fernandes and Shri Madhu equity, or Rs. 250 crores, Maharashtra Dandavate for having brought it into gett. 22 per cent, Karnataka gets 15 a reality. This Corporation has got a per cent, Kerala gets 6 per cent and unique structure. Goa gets another 6 per cent. This was the basis. Recently this was re- SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: vised. As Shri Unnikrishnan said, it The State Government has also help- is not Rs. 1200 crores. It has been ed. revised to Rs. 1200 crores plus the cost of the interest on the Bonds SHRI K. P UNNIKRISHNAN: which comes to Rs. 1400 crores. The Certainly. The hon. Defence Minis- total cost envisaged is now estimated ter and the State Government of Ma- at Rs. 1400 crores out of which the harashtra have promptly paid for it requirement for the current year was also. It started as a Corporation so up to June 1992, Rs. 250 crores for that it could cut through red-tapeism the current year and Rs. 150 crores and also prevent operation scuttle by has been distributed and accordingly the treasury, the Ministry of Finance, permission for the bonds ha$ been with which the hon. Minister is very given for Rs. 150 crores. This would familiar. The total capital to be em- be sufficient for the current year up ployed comes to Rs. 43 crores. Now to March as per the requirement* of the revised estimate would be Rs. 100 the Corporation. crores. A target date was given under the corporate plan that it should be completed by October 1994. And SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: one of the persons who took the He has not answered one part of the 5 Oral Answers SRAVANA 4,1913 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6
Question. When was this decision SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: taken? He does not want to come out with the whole truth. My whole charge is, and it is being substantiated from his SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: answer, that there is a scuttle. For When was it conveyed to the Rail- example, they are not clearing any ways? Because we have an answer foreign exchange required for certain from the Railway Minister in this special type of welding and other spe- session itself, that you have not done cial requirements which involve lot of anything. When was it conveyed to tunnelling in the whole process. This the Railways? is one of the major tasks that has been entrusted to this Corporation and SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: some unique construction methods are The date is 22nd July. And the called for. They have not granted the amount, as I mentioned was Rs. 100 foreign exchange and even in this crores which was meant for April to he is not correct. By that time, that June 1992 and for March 1992 the is by the second year or the next year, amount required as indicated is Rs. that is, by the time the bonds are 150 crores for which permission has floated and the money is extracted it already been granted. will be August-September, 1992. He is not correct in saying that this amount will suffice. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: You have not answered the question. So. he says, especially in reply to When was it conveyed to the Rail- part (d) of my question, “How the ways? And I think the Railway Mi- Government propose to make re- nister has answered in this House, sources available for this vital pro- last week, that it had not yet come. ject?’', simply “Does not arise”. I When did you convey? That is the do not understand his answer at all. question. Do not sidetrack and go elsewhere. SHRT JASWANT SINGH: Be- cause he does not intend to answer it. SHRI A. CHARLES: This is an official answer. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Sir I do not understand his answer at all. I want to know from the hon. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Finance Minister whether he would What do you mean by an ‘official ans- give a specific assurance that the Cor- wer’? Do not teach me procedure. poration would be allowed to raise the (Interruptions) additional amount required.
MR. SPEAKER: You can send SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: it in writing if you do not have it. The entire amount is not required. The bonds are to be issued year-wise. SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: The States have given their share and It is 22nd July, as I said. every vear the percentage, which I have already said, will be contribut- ed by the Railways and the State Go- SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: vernment. The question of Bonds Sir, now he has been—unfortunately will come year-wise. And the neces- he is a very dear friend of m in e- sary permission will be given year- talking like “Aswathama Halah" ... wise.. .(Interruptions). (Interruptions) SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: AN HON. MEMBER: What is Sir. the Minister is misleading the unfortunate in this? Say ‘fortunately’. House. The State Governments are (Interruptions) not required to pay money every year 7 Oral Answers JULY 26, 1991 Oral Answers 8 and only the Railway Department is clearance? You have said that the expected to pay money every year. clearance has been given on 22sd They are only to contribute the July only, perhaps after the receipt of equity in the first year, in the se- this question. cond year and it is very very negli- gible part in the next year. They are Secondly, the equity amount of'the to pay only for two years. In the Corporation Rs. 250 crores has to be tilird year it is the pittance. checked in by the Centre Rs. 128 crores; Maharashtra Rs. 55 crores; Karnataka Rs. 37 crores; Goa Rs. 15 SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: crores and Kerala Rs. 15 crores. 1 So far as the financial year 1992-93 want to know from the Minister as is concerned, the approval will be to what proportion to these States, the given before April 1992. For the cur- amount of Rs. 150 crores was sanc- rent year upto March 1992, approval tioned. has been given. For the next year, it will be given before March...(Inter- ruptions). SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: I have already given the breakup. Railways will give 51 per cent; Maha- SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: rashtra Government will give 22 What about the balance of Rs. 100 per cent: Karnataka will give 15 per crores? They have asked for Rs. 250 cent: Kerala will give 6 per cent and crores. You have given only Rs. 150 Goa will give 6 per cent. crores. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: Sir, my SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: question has not been answered fully. That is what I am saying. The ap- I have asked a question, as to when proval for Rs. 100 crores will be given was this permission for sanction before the end of March 1992. Upto sought? March for the current financial year, an amount of Rs. 150 crores has" al- THE MINISTER OF FINANCE ready been sanctioned. (SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH): Mr. Speaker, Sir. T think, the right So far as financing of the entire hon. Member is correct that the project is concerned, this has to be sanction was given on 22nd July. 1 done in due course in consultation had a discussion with the hon. Mini- with the Government and the Corpora- ster for Railways. The question, why tion and the pattern of Bonds will be was it not given before, should be as- decided. But so far as the next year ked to the other side of the House. is concerned, it will be decided before March 1992. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Sir, the Minister is trying to be smart. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: I would request you Sir, to ask the Minister not to be smart because the Sir the Minister is not prepared to Government that refused the sanc- give any assurance. tion was the Government that was supported by your party. Please do SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: Sir, the not try to be smart in these matters. main grievance is about the delay. In this House let us not try to be This Corporation was formed on 19th smart with each other. Let us come June 1990. To the .unstarred ques- ou1 with the truth. tion dated 16-7-91 of Shri Unnikrish- nan, it was replied that the Corpora- I would like to ask the Minister, tion has since approached the Con- when was the request first made by troller of Capital Issues for clearance. the Konkan Railway Corporation for Now the question is, when did they sanction of the Bonds? Is it a fact approach to the Government for thfs the request for Rs. 250 crores was 9 Oral Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 decided when the Corporate Plan Konkan Railway is concerned, are be- was worked out to complete this pro- ing given a decent burial. ject by the end of 1994? I also want to know from the Minister whether SHRI RAM NAl'K: When the ori- the sanction of Rs. 150 crores today ginal scheme was conceived the rate is jrimarily because you did not give of interest was fixed at 9 per cent the sanction at the proper time, which Subsequently the Government of India was before the end of the financial and the Reserve Bank have increased ye£ r 1990-91. And in the context cf the lending rate by one per cent. the Budget speech and the Industrial Naturally those who wish to contri- Policy that the Minister has outlined, bute also will look at the 9 per cent in which he has talked about his own rate. Does the Government propose to Perestroika and liberalisation, will the increase the rate by one per cent so Konkan Railway Corporation be given that those who are interested in pur- a blanket sanction to take whatever chasing the bonds will come forward stens that are needed to complete and purchase the bonds? thii work within the time that they have stipulated and which has again SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH: been reiterated by the Railway Mini- Under the present Income Tax provi- ster yesterday while replying to the sions we do not have any such pro- debate on the Railway Budget? posal under consideration. I feel that the tax free bonds which carry the rate of 9 per cent provide adequate incen- SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR: tive for people to subscribe to such Regarding the first part of the ques- bonds. tion, the Konkan Railway Project authorities had approached the CCT SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA on 6th of June, 1991. I think, the WASNTK: While intervening in the Hen. Member would be in a better debate on the Railway Budget the position to say why the sanction was Minister of State for Railways Shri tlot given earlier. The sanction has Mallikariun had given a clear com- been given by the Controller of Capi- mitment and reiterated that the Kon- tal Issues on 22nd of July. 1991. kan railway project will be completed Thereafter the whole thing has been by the year 1994. There were lot of worked out. There are certain premi- heated arguments. At that time also ses for the issue of bonds. Those pre- many Members put in their queries tni^s have been considered. According demanding how the Government, to the discussions, it was decided that which has not made sufficient funds the requirement for the current finan- available to the project authorities, cial year is only Rs. 150 crores for plant to complete the project in time. which permission for issue of bonds The answer to that question was not has been granted. :
the benefit of this Corporation itself. Now, as far as the question of the They do not need Rs. 250 crores this term lending institution is concerned, year. They need only Rs. 150 crores. most term lending institutions do not Now this is a project which is going float tax free bonds. I do not think to be completed over a number of that this Corporation can pay the rate years: If you pile up interest obliga- of interest which term lending insti- tions, it will only add to the cost ol tutions would charge. If you look at the project. Therefore, 1 think., it is the Economic Survey, the hon. Mem- in the interest cf this Corporation that ber and the former Railway Minister. it should not raise money prematurely. Shri George Fernandes, himself would They need during the curren: year recognise that asking this Corporation only Rs. 150 crores. That has been to go to the term lending institution is cleared. They need Rs. 100 crores in to condemn this project right from the the first quarter of 1992-93 and as my inception to non-viability. colleague, the Minister of State, has mentioned, that would be done before the end of the current year. M. P. Fund *164. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- Minister of FINANCE be pleased to TERJEE: Sir, the Konkan Railway state: Project also was conceived as a noble approach wherein the States wers ask- (a) whether the Government had ed to participate in the equity stage. received representations from some Part A of my question is in view of Members of Parliament in 1990 to the fact that the budget proposals will constitute an M. P. Fund to be spent have a devastating effect on the State, by the Government on the suggestions will the Central Government contri- of the concerned M. P. on the lines of bute to the Stete fund so that other M.L.A. Fund constituted and being States also participate with the co- spent in some States; operation of the Railways, floating (b) if so, the details thereof: and such corporations for railway lines to be laid in their areas and parr B of (c) the reaction of the Government my question is will the Governrr ent— thereto? the Finance Department—perm t the term lending institutions to lend their THE MINISTER OF STATE IN money to this Konkan Railway Pro- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ject? (SHRI SHANTARAM POTDTJ- KHE): (a) to (c) A statement is laid SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH: Sir. on the table of the House. I think, it is not correct that the Bud- get, that I presented to this August STATEMENT House day before yesterday, will have any adverse effect on the Sutes. In (a) and (b) Yes, Sir, Suggestions fact, I have mc-bolised resources for were received from some Members of the benefit of the States: 1 thought Parliament during 1990 for constitu- that the hon. 'VIembers and the State tion of .an M.P. Fund for undertaking Governments would show some appre- small development works in each Lok ciation for resource mobilisation effort Sabha Parliamentary Constituency on that 1 have done on their behalf. I the suggestions of the concerned have not imposed any burden on the Members. State Governments. I have improved their resource position. Therefore, this (c) The allocation of State Plan inference that my Budget will have Funds is made by the Planning Com- any devastating effect on the State mission after discussion with repre- Governments, I am afraid, is not sentatives of the concerned States and correct. the Central Minis tries , sector/sub- 13 Oral Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14
sector-wise, and also for certain speci- novo and try to make a final deci- fied projects in sectors like power and sion”. irrigation. Funds are also allocated for 'Special Area Programmes’ (e.g., [Translation] programmes for the development of backward areas within the state). About 100 M.Ps. had submitted These allocations are based on an this memorandum to the Prime Minis- assessment of resource availability, ter a id this was the assurance given developmental needs, absorptive capa- by tbe hon. Minister. Now what I city, etc. of such sector/sub-sector or want to know is whether this scheme backard region, as the case may be. has been re-examined and if so which Some projects and programmes do not of the three Governments—V.P. Singh lend themselves to being allocated Government, Chandra Shekhar Gov- Parliamentary Constituency-wise. ernment or Narasimha Rao Govern- Moreover, allocation of approved plan ment—re-examined it? outlay among various parts of a State is primarily the responsibility of the SHRI SHANTARAM POT- concerned State Government. Accor- DUKHE: Mr. Speaker. Sir, this ques- dingly, it is not possible to allocate tion concerns Ram...... (Interruptions) plan funds Parliamentary Constitu- ency-wise. State Governments are, The question which he asked reads: however, free to consult Members of Parliament and Members of State [English] Legislatures in formulating plan pro- posals and in allocating funds. “Whether the Government had re- ceived representations from some Members of Parliament in 1990 to constitute an M.P. Fund to be spent [Translation] by the Governmnet on the sugges- SHRI RAM NA1K: Mr. Speaker, tions of the concerned M.P. on the Sir, being from Maharashtra, you also lines of M.L.A. Fund constituted know that M.L.A. Fund Scheme is in and being spent in seme States.” force in Maharastra. The hon. Minis- ter of Defence, who was earlier Chief [English] Minister of Maharashtra is also aware that there is a scheme called M.L.A. There is nothing like M.L.A. Fund Fund Scheme in Maharashtra invol- ...... (Interruptions). ving an outlay of Rs. 21.5 lakh in order to provide facilities like toilets, SHRI ANNA JOSH I: 11 might not electricity, water, small roads, small be in that name but ii is given from bridges and ‘balwadi’, etc. under the DPDC Fund to every ML A in so scheme. A question on this subject many States. was asked on 18th May, 1990 in the Lok Sabha. Prior to that a memo- randum was submitted to the Prime SHRI SHANTARAM POT- Minister. At the time, hon. Shri Son- DUKHE: Sir, this is a Fund which is tosh Mohan Dev and hon. Shri Kuma- at the disposal of the District Plann- ramangalam, now Ministers, were the ing and Development Council. Even Members of the House and they had the Planning Commission is not in asked a supplementary question to favour of giving such a Fund. The which the Finance Minister Prof. Planning Commission says: “As der Madhu Dandavate had replied: centra'ised planning, particularly the area development concept catches on, comprehensive attention to the require- [English] ment of each Panchayat, Mandal Panchayat, Zila Parishad, will be- “I will assure this House that we come an integral part of the planning. will re-examine the entire issue tie The new Planning Commission is Oral Answers 16 JULY 26,1991 15 Oral Answers working towards this goal. Apart from erf the Planning Commission and ibis that, any attempt to make budget pro- advice to me was that there are prac- vision on constituency basis, is neither tical difficulties in giving efrect to this feasible nor desirable.’* recommendation.
[Translation] [T ranslatiori] SHRI RAM NAIK: What 1 wanted SHRI RAM NAIK: Some time ago, ■to know was whether Government when this issue was discussed, we were had re-examined it, and if so, which told that the matter would be discus- Government did it and when? sed with the leaders of all political parties. We live on the seashore where there is water r I around but no AN HON. MEMBER: He is ex- drinking water. My second supple- pressing his helplessness. mentary question is whether a Mem- ber of Lok Sabha is so powerless (hat SHRI SHANTARAM POT- he cannot have any siy in the works DUKHE: We are not expressing help- which can be done at the instance of lessness it is you people who are doing even a member of Gram Pancbayat3 so. I am simply stating the facts. Chairman of a Muncipal committee or m M.L.A.? They have the powers to get all these things done, but the [English] Members of Parliament who pass bud- Sir, I was telling that the concept get worth crores of rupees are not of planning is at the village level, at authorised to get even a small bridge the Panchayat level...{Interruptions). or a path constructed in their consti- tuencies. Will the Government give consideration to it because M.P. too . MR. SPEAKER: No, the question has a right to serve the people. But is: was it considered by the Govern- he is never given an opportunity to ment, as was agreed. do so? Is there any proposal before the Government to discuss this matter SHRI SHANTARAM POT- with the Members of Farliament? DUKHE: No, Sir, it was not consi- dered by the Government. [English] SHRI MANMOHAN SINGH: Sir, [Translation] I respect the sentiments of the hon. Member. But I will be very honest. MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Minis- Here we are dealing with a very sen- ter has said that he will consider it. sitive matter having bearing on Cen- tre-State relations. Now all these [English] issues have been under discussion. The Sarkaria Commission Report is mrarHr; c SHANTARAM POT- uuJUifc, Sir, this is a suggestion for there stating what is the proper way action.. .(Interruptions). for the Central Government to allo- cate resources among the States. Now, I would respectfully submit that the minister of FINANCF these are issues which do not lend (SHRI MANMOHAN SIN bS i f themselves to simple answer. But I will not be in a position to ans- if the hon. Members would like to wer this question whether the previ- have a discussion, I think, we are IEnglish] do. This is a question: asked on the floor of the Parliament. If some' it- . M~. SPEAKER:. Now the ques- ems arc canalised ~t present, that ap- tion IS, there are DIstrict Boards on pendix must be laid 011 the Table of which M.L.As. ure Members and the House. I am not going to hunt for are you going to advise the State Volume 1. This is . at the way to Governments to have M.Ps. -also on reply. to the question. Do you have those Boards? anything to say about that? Why are you not giving the list of items SHRl MANMOHAN SINGH: My which are alrea ly canalised? information is that in several States Members of Parliament are there on SHRI. P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir these Boards. when this policy was announced i~ !990 effective from 1st April, 1990 It was laid on the Table of the Dcca.naiisation of Imports . House. This is a public document. If the hon. Member wishes 10 have '.ll66. SHRl INDRAJIT GUPTA: a cop~ of that, 1 am willing la fur- Will tbe Minister of COMMERCE nish him a copy of Volume J. But, be pleased to state: let me assure him. it was laid on (a) whether the Government pro- the Table of the. House when the po- pose to decannlise almost all imports ; licy was announced on 1-4-1990. (b) if so, the reasons theref'or: and SHRJ INDRAJlT GUPTA: Sir, (c) the items canalised so far and :, new scheme has been announced those Iikcl Y to be decanalised? under the new trade policy under which exporters will be permitteel freely to sell their replenishment li- THE MJ1IISTER OF STATE OF cences to importers and importers will THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE no longer have to go thronzh the la- (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) byrinth of Government offices and to (c) The items, the import of regulations. They call purchase di- which is presently canalised, are spe- rectly from the exporters. What will cified in Appendix 5 Part A & Part be the impact of this on the fact that B. of the Import and Export Policy. there wili be actually no canalisa- 1990-93 (Volume 1). These li ts are being reviewed to determine whether tion at all and these licences will be solei at a premium. I woud also some of the items could be decana- " Used. A decision will be taken in like la know as to what will be the result of this on the actual" import the near future. and values of imports coming into this country because even people who SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Mr. have no import value in their exports Speaker, Sir, before 1 put my ques- can also buy these licences, as 'far tion, I must lodge a protest with as I am able to understand. him. Part (c) of the question is very clear and it asks for the items cana- SHRT P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, lised so far and those likely to be with great respect to the hon, Member, decanatised. As far as those likely ! would like to say that they are fa. be decanalised are concerned, the really two separate issues. Although Minister can certainly say that they replenishment licences do not arise are considering the matter. But tbe out of this . question. T will answer information asked about the items that. The /~_shl11ent licences canalised so far. is not ziven. He were always tradeable. It is not a says, the items, the import-of which result of the policy announced on is . presently canalised,· are specified the 4th July. 1991. Now, what in Appendix 5 Part A and "Part B of or the Import and Export Policy. w e have done is. we have made a 1990-93 (Volume 1). This will not large number of items importable 21 Oral Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913(SAKA) Oral Answers 22 only against replenishment licences India’s trading licence- -or on the ba- and not against free foreign exchange. sis of general trading system he will This will result in import compres- be able to import the goods in the sion, not import enlargement and case of decanalised items? one of the objects of the new policy is import compression. I have ans- SHRI P CHIDAMBARAM: I am wered earlier in this House that we not quite sure what the hon. Mem- are aiming at an optimal import ber wants to know. But today we compression of approximately Rs. have abolished supplementary licen- 3,000 crores this year. But, this has ces and additional licences. The only to be seen after we set our targets, licences that are available to impor- since the Budget was presented only ters are advance licences for duty free day before yesterday and tariff rates imports against an export obligation have been made known only day and REP licences which will now be- before yesterday. We will have to come EXIM scrips. If hon. Member set our targets for the current year. wishes to know that if an item after As far as the impact of replenishment being decanalised, whether the impor- licences on canalisation is concern- ter will be allowed to import it, the ed, this is where, I think, there has answer is ‘Yes’. If it is decanalised, been some misunderstanding. Ap- anyone can import it. But how he pendix 5 Part A contains non-sensi- will finance the import will depend tive items which, although canalised, upon which route he is taking. If he are also available against replenish- is an exporter who is willing to per- ment licences. So, there is no change form an export obligation. I assume, there. Appendix 5 Part B contains he will go by the route of advance sensitive items which are canalised licences. If he is an importer for and which, therefore, cannot be im- domestic production or domestic ported by anyone except the cana- consumption, which is more unlikely, lised agency against free foreign ex- he will go by the route of EXIM change given by the Reserve Bank scrips. If . the hon. Member has any I do not think that the policy of specific commodity in mind and spe- REP licences affects canalisation as cific kind of importer, I will be such. able to help him more. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Is it SHRIMATI GEETHAMUKHER- broad understanding of this Govern- JEE: Sir, is it a fact that paragraph ment that agcncies like the State 9 of the policy statement of Shri Trading Corporation and the MMTC Chidambaram, as reported in the should gradually, by stages be abo- newspaper, contain the following: lished altogether? fc‘in three years time objective we will be to remove all import li- censing for capital goods and raw SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Let materials except for a small nega- me make it absolutely clear that we tive list”’. intend to strengthen the STC and MMTC and make them highly com- petitive international trading houses. If so, I would like to know what If this policy is implemented, STC is the necessity of having all the raw and MMTC will grow in strength, materials also imported when our their volumes will grow, they will country is potentially rich in raw find new markets and will export materials? new products. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Do you allow Q. No. 180 to be taken up DR, DEVI PRASAD PAL: I want now? to ask one question. In the case of decanalisation, will the importer be MR. SPEAKER: This is a sup- able to use the actual trading licence— plementary to Q. No. 166. JULY 26.1991 Ora! Answers 24 23 Oral Answer* (cl and (d) Government have per- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: This mitted M/s. SATYA GIRI SHIPP- is an entirely different question. This ING COMPANY to acquire two high has nothing to do with decana- Speed Catamarans for plying on the lisation as such. This is a ques- tion about the import policy one Bombay-Ratnagiri-Panaji route. This should follow. N o w , import restric- Shipping Company has since deposit- tions are of different kinds. One kind ed initial payment to the seller in res- of import restriction is by licensing. pect of tlie first catamaran while the Another kind of import restriction is sanction for acquisition of the second by tariffs. The third kind of import catamaran is valid upto 14-8-1991. restriction is by quantitative restric- The Government have also permitted tion. We believe that the most effec- M/s. LINK-on-SE A-LINK to acquire tive way to control imports is by tariffs a Catamaran to oly ^on Bombay-Goa and not by licensing or by quantitative route, and this sanction is valid upto restriction. But this is a long term 31-10-1991. goal. What I have said in that state- ment is that we will control imports [Translation] by the method of tariffs and this is what has been attempted by the Fin- SHRI SHANKARJI VAGHELA: ance Minister in his Budget. This is Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister a continuing exercise. So far as licens- has thought about Goa and Bombay ing is concerned, we would like to technically only. Had he given the remove it over a period of time. reply after applying his mind, pro- Whatever raw materials that are not bably the reply would have been available in this country will not be something else. I would like to say imported and they will be controlled through you, that the condition of by high tariffs. Tariff barriers will railways is well know, and so is the be there to control imports. condition of the roads. Very recently the hon. Minister of Finance increased Ferry Service between Bombay and the prices of petroleum products. Goa That also you know. You also know the condition of the entire transport + system. In view of the above, will *167. SHRI SHANKARJI the hon. Minister be pleased to state VAGHELA. whether the Government is going to accord pnority to water transport over DR. A. K. PATEL: the road. raH and air transport as the Will the Minister of SURFACE former will be cheaper and the dis- TRANSPORT be pleased to state: tance will be cut short? (a) whether Government propose to resume the ferry service between MR. SPEAKER: Vaghelaji, you are Bombay and Goa for the convenience going from specific to general. It of the people of these areas as also should not be so. erf tourists; SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: There (b) if so, the details thereof: was such a scheme but we had to (c) whether any proposal for acqui- suffer heavy loss on it. So it was ring new ships for service between withdrawn. We are granting permis- Bombay and Goa has also been con- sion to State Governments and pri- sidered; and vate parties. Permission had been granted even before I took charge of (d) if so, the outcome thereof? this Ministry as Minister There are about five such companies who had THE MINISTER OF STATE OF sought permission and it has already Tfffi MINISTRY OF SURFACE been granted to them. We want that TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH permission should begranted through- TYTLER): (a) No,. Sir. out the country, not to speak (b) Does not arise-r Bombay and Goa alone. 25 Otxd Axsyvets SRAVANA 4, \9\y(SAKA) Oml Ansr#ters 26 SHRI SHANKARJ1 VAGHELA: two second-hand Catamarans. IMs Ms. Speaker, Sir, I would like to letter of sanction was issued on 6*42- know from the hon. Minister through 89. you whether this scheme would be implemented by private parties within The West Coast Hover Craft Pvt. a period of six months or a year? Ltd.* Bombay applied. Their date o f Because sometimes it is said that it application was 17-11-1988* Of course, would be implemented from August, rejection fetter was issued because and some other time it is being said they did hot go through the norm® that it would be implemented from which the Government prescribed. October. May I know from the bon. Minister whether it would be imple* Then, there is Binfcam Shipping mented through private individuals Company. They also applied for within a definite time limit? acquisition of second-hand catamaran in principle. This proposal was SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: Mr. sanctioned on 30th May, 1989. Then, Speaker, Sir, we have already issued we had Great Eastern Shipping Com- the sanction order. We have prescrib- pany which also applied for acquisi- ed certain dates in the sanction. If the tion of two second-hand Catamarans dates are over, we will see whether from abroad. The letters of sanction they have acquired the vessels or not. were issued and were valid up to 6-5- 1990 and 7-9-1990. The number of [English] passengers it would carry was 250 each. The cost, of course, was there. DR. A. K. PATEL: Sir, Goa is now-a-days becoming a spot of tou- A number of companies have app- rist attraction because the people do lied and we were not hesitant in giv- not visit Kashmir for known reasons. ing permission. I think, top priority should be given for ferry services between Bombay I am only waiting for these people and Goa. to acquire die ships and high-speed boats so that they can serve the people As my colleague has asked the in Bombay who want to travel to question* I would ask the Minister, Goa and vice-versa. what concrete steps have been taken for the fewy -service. What time- SHRI SUDHIR SAWANT : Ear- bound action would be taken for this lier a number of ports in this area purpose? What progress was made were served with ferry service. The during this period? When is the pri- hon. Minister has mentioned that licen- vate party going to start ferry service? ces have been given only for plymg a ferry service from Bombay-Ratnagki- MR. SPEAKER: That was answer- Goa. ft is inadequate. There are a ed by the Minister. number of ports which require ftis service. I would like to ask the hon. Minister if there is any plan for grant- SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: I ing licences to other ports and also would like to give details to* the hon. to developing these ports. .. Member. There are five companies. One, Satya Giri Shipping Company Secondly, licences have been grant- has given a proposal to acquire two ed only up to 14-8-1991 and 31-fO- second-hand high speed boats from 1991 and no ferry service has yet abroad in principle. They had put started. Ts there any proposal to ex- an application in 1987 and this sanc- teraf tft»®e licences and, if so. to tion was valid right up to 1988. Later which companies? on. this was cancelled. SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: Any- But liater on, Satya Giri Shipping body who does not: complete acqui- Company applied for acquisition of sition of vessels by the date ^ffich they 3—15 LSS/ND/91 27 Oral Answers JULY 26, 1991 Oral Answers 28 have informed the Government app- SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAV- lies for extension and, if there are AN: 1 want to know whether there genuine reasons for extending, we was an increase value-wise in respect give extension. But again I want to of cashew and marine products in tell you that there is no restriction 1991 and, if so, the details. anywhere in the country, subject to the clearance of Defence in certain SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED: parts, that we will not allow ferry There was an increase in marine ex- service. ports from Rs. 635 crores to Rs. 893 crores in 1990-91. On cashew, the Export of Cashewnut, Pepper and export increase was from Rs. 360 Marine Products crores in 1989-90 to Rs. 443 crores in 1990-91. "*171. SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAG- HAVAN: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHA- VAN: What steps are being taken to (a) whether there has been fall in make Indian pepper competitive in the export of cashewnut, pepper and the international market? marine products from Kerala during 1990-91; MR. SPEAKER: If statistics are (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and not available, you can send them. (c) the total amount of foreign ex- SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED : change earned from the export of Steps are being taken including inter- cashewnut, pepper and marine pro- action with international agencies. ducts from Kerala during 1990-91? The problem that arises is pepper is an exclusive crop. There is also the THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF problem of drop in prices in the STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF world market. We are aware of all COMMERCE (SHRI SALMAN these and steps are being taken with KHURSHEED): (a) to (c) A state- international agencies, to ensure that ment is laid on the Table of the prices would not drop. The main House. reason is drop in world prices because of the demand and supply position. STATEMENT SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: (a) and (b) Separate state-wise ex- The hon. Minister has given the port figures are not maintained. While figure in terms of rupees. I would exports of cashewnuts and marine like to know whether there has been products recorded an increase during a rise or fall in the export of these 1990-91, there was a fall in the ex- items in terms of quantity and in port-of pepper mainly due to the high terms of unit earning. If there has price of Indian pepper as compared been a fall in some countries and a to pepper of rival origins, lower pro- rise in some other countries, in that duction and the Gulf Crisis. case please give the names of the countries to which our exports have (c) According to the provisional fallen in this context. data available, the export of cashew- nuts* pepper and marine products SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED : were as follows during 1990-91: Sir, there is an increase both in terms Item Value in Rs. crores of quantity as .well as amount regard- ing export. If the hon. Member wants Cashewnuts . . . *443.50 the details, we will give the same in Pepper 111.00 writing. Marine Products 893.37 (Source: Cashew Export Promotion SHRI E. AHAMED : The hon. Council, Spices Board arid Minister has replied that earning m MFBDA) respect of Cashew is much less than 29 Oral Answers SRAVANA 4,1913 (&4AL4) Oral Answers 30 the. marine products. One of the (d) whether the Government have reasons which I would like to bring received any memorandum from the to the notice of the Minister is that garment exporters regarding their there is not sufficient promotion of problems; and cashew products to the Western coun- tries where we have good marketing (e) if so, the action taken thereon? and the schemes that have been con- templated for the cashew cultivation with the help of the World Market THE MINISTER OF STATE OF have not been taken up by the Gov- THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE ernment of India so far. Therefore, we (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) to have to depend on other countries for (e) A statement is laid on the Tabic the import of raw-nuts. I would like of the House. to know whether the Government has any scheme to promote the cashew production by - indigenous method STATEMENT with the help of the World Bank for which a scheme has already been (a) The Ministry of Commerce there before the Government of India functions as the central monitoring which has been approved and sent by and coordinating agency to improve the Kerala Government. the export position of our country. (b) and (c) Yes, Sir. Assistance is SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED : sought from time to time from vari- Since Cashew is a horticulture crop, ous international agencies such as the main responsibility for its regula- Commonwealth Fund for Technical tion, production remains not with the Cooperation (CFTC), London, Euro- Central Government but with the pean Economic Community (EEC), Government of Kerala; not with our Brussels, etc, as also from our major Ministry but with the Ministry of trading partners for increasing our Agriculture. A five-year World exports. Bank assisted programme of area de- velopment from 1982-83 to 1986-87 (d) and (e) Government have been has rejuvenated trees and also helped receiving a number of representations to increase acreage under Cashew in from the garment exporters from time Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and to time on various problems being Andhra Pradesh. The results in har- faced by them and appropriate actions vest have just begun to show. We have been taken on such representa- need greater interaction between the tions where found necessary. Central Government and the State of Kerala. We have already initiated plans and steps in this regard. SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: Sir. the answer given by the Minis- ter is very evasive. Really speaking, Assistance from Foreign Agencies for I had asked what are the main points Improvement of Exports in the representation of the garment exporters and the problems they are *172. SHRI CHANDRA JEET facing and what concrete actions the YADAV: Will the Minister of COM- Government has taken to increase the MERCE be pleased to state: garment exports particularly in view of the latest decision of the Govern- (a) whether there is any monitoring ment by which you are withdrawing and coordinating agency to improve the export subsidy. Garment being the export position of our country: one of the major items of our export (b) whether any assistance has been in which India has a name, what con- crete actions the Government is taking sought from some foreign agencies to to increase the garment exports and help in increasing our exports; also to increase the quota fixed by (c) if so, the details thereof; the EEC, I t Qml Answers JULY 36, m i Written Answers 32 SHRI K CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, for Indian garments. I would like to ttesc ispreseatations come from time know whether the Government of totinje. I can share with the hon. India has proposed to increase that Members some of the decisions which have been taken recently by the Mi- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: This nistry of Textiles in consultation with is governed by the Multi-Fibre Agree- us on the representations of garment ment, They want MFA to continue ejqporters. and we want it to be terminated. We are now discussing it. Under GATT, Firstly, Sir, they wanted the Blan- we expect MFA to be rolled over ket Advance Licensing Scheme to be for some time to time before an liberalised. This has been done. The agreement is reached on how to wind Blanket Advance Licensing Scheme it up; tfce moment MFA is in force, has been made applicable to garment we cannot ask for anything more exporters having an average NFE than what is prescribed in that. The earning of Rs. 2 crores and above details about it are with the Ministry during the last three years. of Textiles. Secondly, they wanted revision of input-output norms under Advance Licensing Scheme. We have increas- ed the REP rate for Advance Licence WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUES- from 10 per cent of. Net Foreign TIONS Earnings to 20 per cent of Net Export of Iron Ore through Paradeep Foreign Earnings. Port Thirdly, they wanted duty conces- *165. SHRI ARJUN CHARAN sions for trimmings and embellish- SETHI: Will the Minister of COM- ments. This was earlier 10 per cent MERCE be pleased to state: of the 20 per cent NFE. Now it is 10 per cent of 30 per cent NFE. (a) the quantity of Iron ore allotted Therefore, they have three per cent to Paradeep Port to be handled and for trimmings and embellishments. exported during 1990-91 and 1991-92*. and Fourthly, they wanted duty-free (b) how it compares with the cor- import of machinery. Both my colle- responding figures for the last two ague Shri Ashok Gehlot and I have years? strongly recommended to the Finance Minister that there must be a duty- free import of textile machinery with THE MINISTER OF STATE OF an expert obligation to run into seven THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE yearn. Unfortunately, the Finance (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) and Minister in the Budget has not accep- (b) Iron ore targetted for export and ted it. But both my colleague Geh- actual exports through Paradeep Port lofcfi and I will persist in the matter during 1990-91 and 1991-92 as also and 4ry to see whether duty-free ini-, during the earlier two years are: pert cm be allowed. They want- (in lakh tonnes) ed minimum export prices. Geh- lotji has already announced that Year Target Actual the minimum export prices in terms experts of dollars will become effective from 1-1-92. We will consider each one 1988-89 14.00 16.4ft of them- If the hon. Member has 20.97 anythi&g particular in mind, please 1989-90 18.75 write to me and I will answer that 1990-91 22.50 16.97 JfcHJlt 1991-92 20.10 5.40 (up to SHRI CHANDRA JEET YA- 15-7-91) ]pAV: Sir, the EEC has fixed a quota 38 Wvkttm Amwers SRAVANA 4, \9\ Z iSAKA) Written Answers 34. iAcqnifliiiM of NewrSUp* (f) if so, the details thereof? *m. SHR9 WAV HAVAL PA- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF UL.: Will the Minister of SURFACE THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE I’RA’NSPORT be pleased to state: TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- TLER): (a) The policy -of the Govern- (a* the poHejr of the Government ment is to encourage acquisition of regarding acquisition of new ships; new «hips, keeping in view the re- quirement of tomiage to meet the (b> whether the Government have transport needs of the country’s sea estimated the dead' weight tonnage borne trade and the need to support Tonnage (Million DWT) Total ------_— ----- —------— Invest- Total Additional O f which ment required acquisi- for (Rs. by 2000 tions replace- crores) A.D. ment (1987- 2000) (i) High cargo and high mar- ket shaee 11.6 9.0 7.1 8,100 (ii) High cargo and low mar- ket share 10.3 7.7 7.1 7,200 (m) Low cargo and high mar- ket share 10.7 8.1 7.1 7,500 j@v ) Low cargo and low mar- ket share 9.6 6.9 7.1 6,700 Change in ta^portrE^wrt PoHcy (b) whether the balance of payments would be adversely affected in the soar vi69. SHRI V. SREENIVASA future with more import trade than PRASAD: Will the Minister of export trade orientation; and COMMERCE be pleased to state: (c) if so, the facts thereof? (a) whether die Government have aaaouaeod a major policy change in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the import-export trade keepisg in THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE view the consequences recorded after (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) devaluation of rupee in the cauntry; Yes, Sir. 35 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written' Answers 36 (b) No, Sir. [Tramtwkm] (c) Does not arise. Alleged irrefuiarities in DQS & 1> * 173. SHRL SANTOSH KUMAR Evasion ot Excise Duty by companies GANGWAR': Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state; *170. SHRI KAR1A MUNDA; r v * r Will the Minister of FINANCE be (a) whether the attention of the Gov- pleased to state: ernment has been, drawn to the news- items appearing in . “Jansatta” dated (a) the companies against whom 9 and 10 January, 1991 regarding the show cause notices for Excise duty irregularities committed in the Direc- evasion of more than Rs. 50 crores torate General of Supplies and Dispo- each have been issued during the last sals (DGS&D); • three years; (b). il so, the facts thereof; and (b) whether the Government pro- (c)* the action taken in this regard? pose to take over the shares of the foreign companies against whom ex- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF cise duty of more than Rs. 50 crores THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE is pending realisation; and (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Yes Sii, in so far as publication of the news item is concerned. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) The allegations were examined THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE in January, 91 and found to be un- (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR); substantiated. (a) Show-Cause-Notices for Excise duty evasion of more than Rs. 50 (c) Does not arise. crores each have been issued to the following companies during the last [English] three years: — Implementation of Agricultural and 1. M/s. Hindustan News Print Roral Debt Relief scheme in Gujarat Limited, News Print Nagar, 174. SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: Kottayam. Will the Minister of FINANCE be 2. M/s. Mysore Paper Mills, Bha- pleased to state: dravati. (a) the number of .farmers benefit- 3. M/s. G.T.C., Bombay. ed under the ‘Agricultural and Rural Debt Relief Scheme, 1990’ till date. 4. M/s. Godfrey Phillips India State-wise and Union Territory-wise; Limited, Bombay. (b) the amount sanctioned and re- leased under the scheme to the State (b) and (c) After the issue of Show- of Gujarat till date; and Cause-Notice, the case has to be ad- judicated. Question of initiating re- (c) when the remaining amount is covery proceedings arises only after likely to be released? confirmation of die duty demands in adjudication & not just after issue oi THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the Show-Cause-Notice. After the de- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE mands are confirmed* there are several (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) The other more direct and quicker methods Scheme, provides debt relief to eligi- of enforcing recovery than taking over ble borrower^ Who are farmers, arti- the shares of a company. sans and Weavers. As on lsf July, 1991 37 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 38 the number of beneficiaries provided has reported that a sum of Rs. 90.29 relief under Agricultural and Rural crores and Rs. 17.12 crores has been Debt Relief Scheme, 1990 was 93.7 sanctioned and realesed to Gujarat lakhs for public sector banks, 164.59 State Cooperative Bank (GSCB) and lakhs for Cooperative Banks and 37.21 Gujarat State Land Development Bank l&khs for Regional Rural Banks (GSLDB), respectively by NABARD fRRBs). No separate category wise as fifty percent share of Government break-up of relief provided is availa- of India for implementation of the ble since the reporting system does ARDR Scheme in that State for Co- not generate such information. State- operative Banks. NABARD had also wise/Union Territory-wise details arc sanctioned and released Rs. 4.17 cro- given in the Annexure. res to the Regional Rural Banks. (c) It is expected that the remain- (b) National Bank for Agriculture ing amount will be provided in the and Rural Development (NABARD) current and the next financial year. Ann e x c rb Statewisef Union Territorywise number of persons who have been given relief under the Agricultural and Rural Debt Relief Scheme, 1990 as on 1st July, 1991 Sr. States/U.T.s. Number o f beneficiaries given relief No. Public Cooperative Regional Total Sector Banks Rural Banks Banks 1 2 3 4 5 6 1. Andhra Pradesh 11.71,823 13,57.224 4.02,433 29,31,480 2. Arunachal Pradesh 3.599 7,(38 1,420 12,157 3. Assam 2.16.908 T.66,585 1,25,069 5.08,562 4. Bihar 7.65,129 22,49,039 5.29,181 35.43,349 5. Goa 9,984 8,777 18,761 6. Gujarat 4,62.958 8,46,328 46,193 13,55,479 7. Haryana 2,27,085 3,08,357 63,607 5.99,049 8. Himachal Pradesh 93,465 1,71,687 12,669 2,77,821 9. Jammu & Kashmir 15.913 8,787 9,105 33,805 10. Karnataka 8.85,013 4,73,257 2,58,106 16,16.376 11; Kerala' 3.12,855 56.543 67,924 4,37,322 12. Madhya Pradesh 4,70,840 1,21,570 2.22.456 19,14.868 13. Maharashtra 6,84,602 21,24,862 65,614 28.75,078 14. Manipur 14,209 54,584 4,271 73,064 15. Meghalaya 14,889 .. 2,177 17,066 16.'Mizoram 2,151 . . 4,245 6,396 39 Written Answers JULY 26, 199*1 Written Answers 40 1 2 3 4 5 •6 17. Nagaland 14,354 35,747 50,1#! 1&. Orissa 5,20,432 11.50,160 3,81,872 2 0 ,5 M 6 t 1*9. Punjab 2,00,105 2.56;632 7,054 4,63,791 20. Rajasthan 4,66,027 11,52,597 2;96;443 B ^ o e ? 21. Safekim 9,394 9,394 22. Tan*»Nadu 8.28,817 10,88,674 60,732 19,78,223 23;. Tripura 46,160 99,965 1,46,125 24. Uttar Pradesh 9,78,354 3€,5$793 5,26J«6 51,55,333 25. West Bengal 9,06,011 85,057 5,05,110 14,96.178 26. Chandigarh 1,667 • 1,696 3,363 27. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 1,290 1,508 2,798 28. Daman and Diu 415 700 1,115 29. Delhi 10,978 10,978 30. Lakshadweep . 91 91 31. Pondicherry 26,049 15,483 41.532 32. Andaman & Nicobar 3,567 1,188 4,755 Islands Total 93^5,134 1-64,59,226 37.20.779 295,45,139 Retomneiidation» of National Com- (b) Does, not arise in view of answer mission on Urbanisation to (a) above. *175. SHRI MADAN LAL KHU- Growth Rate RANA: Will the Minister of SUR- FACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: *176. SHRI SRIBALLAV PAN1- GRAfHt Will the Minister of (a) the details of the recommenda- FINANCE be pleased to state: tions of the National Commission on Urbanisation relating to Delhi con- cernfn? his Ministry; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN [Translation] THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): Construction of Bye Passes (a) Yes, Sir. While dealing with the *177. SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: impact of Gulf crisis and the recession Will the Minister of SURFACE in some developed countries on the TRANSPORT be pleased to state: economics of developing countries in Asia, tiie World Economic Survey (a) whether the Government pro- 1991 has observed that: pose to construct bye-passes in those ‘‘In India, in particular, the grow- cities where the National Highways ing disequilibrium in the external pass through the cities; and account is the most worrying aspect (b) if so, the details of such high- of the present situation, in that pro- ways and cities where the bye-passes bably output growth will be retard- would be constructed, State-wise? ed again in the process of correcting it” THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (b) and (c) Several factors have con- TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH tributed to the growing disequilib- TYTLER): (a) and (b) Construc- rium in the external accounts. These, tion of bye-passes is accorded a rela- among others, include: declining self- tively low priority vis-a-vis, other de- sufficiency in production/consumption velopmental works on the National of crude oil and petroleum products, Highway system. During every Plan a steady erosion of the surpluses in period, subject to availability of funds the invisible account in financing the and inter-se priority among different trade deficit, unfavourable climate for projects, construction of bye-passes concessional assistance, the bunching around selected locations are taken of debt service obligations on past up. The bye-passes now under con- borrowings and growing fiscal im- struction are given in the statement balances. These strains were further annexed. compounded by the crisis and the war in the Gulf during 1990-91. STATEMENT A number of steps have been taken to meet the balance of payment situa- SI. NH No. tion. In order to enhance the inter- No. national competitiveness, improve ex- port performance, contain imports and ASSAM curb destabilising market expectations, 1. NH 37-Jorhat adjustment has been made in the ex- bypass change rate of the rupee. Government have also announced significant struc- BIHAR tural changes in the import-export 2. NH 28A-Motihari policy and industrial policy. bypass GUJARAT For improving the management of the economy, the centre-piece of Gov- 3. NH 8-Dhoraji bypass ernment’s strategy would be a credi- ble fiscal adjustment and macro-eco- HIMACHAL PRADESH nomic stabilization during the current 4. NH 22-Simla financial year, to be followed by con- bypass (Phase II) tinued fiscal consolidation thereafter. 43 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 44 [English] SL NH No. No. Com^niBent Tax 5. NH 22-Barog bypass *178. SHRI RATILAL KALIDAS VARMA: Will the Minister of FIN- KARNATAKA ANCE be pleased to state: 6. NH 4-Hubli Dharwar bypass (Phase I) (a) whether the Union Government have any proposal under considera- KERALA tion to bring forward a legislation 7. NH 47-Trivandrum for the levy of consignment tax; Neyyattinkara bypass (Phase I) (b) if so, when and the broad de- tails thereof; 8. NH 47-Chalakudy bypass (c) whether the views expressed by 9. NH 47-Alleppey some of the State Governments in bypass (Phase I) this regard have also been taken into MAHARASHTRA consideration; and 10. NH 4-Westerly (d) if not, the reasons therefor? diversion of Pune NAGALAND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE 11. NH 39-Dimapur (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): bypass (Phase I) (d) to (d) Some proposals in this ORISSA regard have been received. The mat- ter requires further consultations with 12. NH 42-Meramandalli States. bypass 13. NH 5-Rambha Impact of Rupee Devaluation on bypass Prices of Essential Commodities TAMIL NADU *179. SHRI BHAGEY GOBAR- 14. NH 7-Pugalur DHAN: Will the Minister of FIN- bypass ANCE be pleased to state: 15. NH 46-Vaniyambadi (a) the impact of the two-step de- bypass valuation of the Indian rupee on the prices of essential commodities and 16. NH 46-Vellore consumer articles; and bypass 17. NH 45-Chengalput (b) how it will stimulate export bypass promotion, induce effective import substitution and arrest the flight of 18. NH 7-Coimbatore capital from India? bypass UTTAR PRADESH THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 19. NH 2-Varanasi THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE bypass (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): 20. NH 26-Lalitpur (a) The impact of the recent exchange bypass rate adjustment on the prices of es- sential commodities and consumer GOA articles is expected to be marginal. 21. NH 17-Mapusa Most of the essential commodities bypass consumed in our country are wholly produced domestically. Among the 45 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (S4/C4) Written Answers 46 essential commodities that are impor- Formation of Women Army Battalion ted, the most important ones are edi- ble oils, pulses and kerosene. The *181. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: share of imports in the domestic con- Will the Minister of DEFENCE be sumption of pulses and edible oils is pleased to state: small. The share of imports in the domestic consumption of kerosene is (a) whether a women army batta- relatively high, but with effect from lion is proposed to be formed; the evening of 24 July 1991, the do- mestic price of kerosene has been re- duced by 10 per cent. Under the im- (b) if so, the proposed strength of port-export policy, there are no im- the battalion; and ports of consumer goods other than life saving drugs and books. (c) the duties to be assigned to this battalion? (b) The exchange rate adjustment will stimulate exports by raising their profitability, encourage effective im- THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE port substitution by making imports (SHRI SHARAD PAWAR): (a) to costlier, and stem the flight of capital (c) No, Sir. While there is no move from India by curbing destabilising to induct women in the combat ele- expectations which were generated by ments, the proposals of the Defence perceptions about the exchange rate Services for the induction of women of the rupee. in selected branches are being pro- cessed for an early decision. Import Licensing for Capital Goods and Raw Materfaris [Translation] *180. SHRIMATI GEETA MU- KHERJEE: Will the Minister of Declaration of Part of New DeOhi- COMMERCE be pleased to state: Bombay Road as National Highway (a) whether the Government pro- H82. DR. LAXMI NARAYAN pose to remove all imports licensing PANDEYA: Will the Minister of for capital goods and raw materials; SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleas- and ed to state: (b) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether New Delhi-Bombay road via Ajmer, Nasirabad and In- dore is very important from traffic THE MINISTER OF STATE OF point of view; THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) (b) whether the headquarters of and (bj Certain changes in the im- Army and CRPF, several cement fac- port policy for import of raw materials tories and other industrial units are and components by units, other than located at three places on this road SSI Units and manufacturers of life viz. Nasirabad, Neemuch and Mahu; savmg Medicines / equipment, have been announced recently which re- (c) whether preliminary formalities duce the extent of licensing. No have been completed to declare the change has been made in the import middle part of this road from Nasira- policy for capital goods. The policy bad to Indore as National Highway; of the Government would be to pro- and gressively reduce licensing on capital goods and raw materials over a 3 to (d) if so, the time by which the 5 year period. Detailed proposals in aforesaid part of New Delhi-Bombay this regard have yet to be worked road is likely to be declared as Na- out. tional highway? Written Answers 48 JULY 26, 1991 47 Written Answers TtfF m i n i s t e r o f s t a t e o f THE MINISTER OF txSministry OF surface THE MINISTRY OF SURtAUi TRANSWRT(SHRI JAGDISH TY- TRANSPORT (SHRI TLER): (a) DTC has approximately TYTLER): (a) New Delhi is con- 5500 bus stops in the city operational nected to Bombay via Ajmer through existing National Highway No. 8. area out of wuich 1533 are covered Similarly, existing National Highways with Bus Queue Shelters. "No. 2 and 3 connect Delhi to Bom- bay via Indore. The route from (b) It is not ieasible to construct Ajmer to Indore via Nasirabad and shelters at all the bus stops due to Neemuch, has its own importance paucity of space and set back con- and is part of the Road system, under straints. the control of the respective State Governments. (c) Bus queue shelters are con- structed keeping in view the availabi- (b) Yes, Sir. lity of land with enough set back Irom the main thoroughfare. (c) No, Sir. (d) The Delhi Transport Corpora- fd) Does not arise. tion has awarded the work of con- struction of 320 bus queue shelters in Delhi to the CPWD in December, [English] 1990. No construction has commen- ced so far. The NDMC propose to Construction of Shelters at DTC Bus construct 10 bus queue shelters dur- Stops ing the current financial year. 640. SHRI SANAT KUMAR (e) Yes, Sir. Repairs to existing MANDAL: bus shelters are also undertaken when- ever they get damaged. DR. C. SILVER A: if) Does not arise in view of ans- Will the Minister of SURFACE wer to (e) above. TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) the total number of bus stops Losses in NTC Doe to Cancellation in the Capital and the number out of of on going Projects them which have overhead shelters; 641. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- (b) whether bus shelters will be SHEKARA MURTHY: Will the constructed at all the bus stops; Minister of TEXTILES be pleaded to state: (c) if not, the criteria followed in selecting the bus stops for construc- (a) Whether the Government pro- tion of new bus shelters; pcse tc review the position with re- gard tc expansion of different mills (d) it so, the detoils thereof; and in our procedure for monitoring of export commitments. The exporters (e) if not, the claims pending are tequired to furnish periodic re- against the NIC or subsidiary cor- turns on year to year basis to compe- porations cn account of cancellation tent authorities located at the Head- of the on-going projects? quarters office of the Chief Controller of imports and Exports or at the te- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF gional licensing offices, as the case THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES may be, indicating their export per- (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) In formance in a specific format. the case of some of the mills under NTC (WBAB&O) Ltd., Calcutta, ic) and (d) It is not possible to orders for civil works were cancelled, collect and coordinate vast mass of due tc pruning of modernisation sc- material from the thirty one Regional hemes. There is no proposal to re- Offices which issue various kinds of view expansion of such civil works. licences including licences involving export commitments. (b) There is no loss of interest on account of pruning of modernisation Trade Agreement with Saudi Arabia schemes, since the funds invested per- tained to equity capital. Since no 643. SHRI E. AHAMED: Will capital machinery was procured by the Minister of COMMERCE be NTC under the scheme, there is no pleased to state: loss of production. (a) whether the Government have (c) to (e) NTC (WBAB&O) has entered into any new trade agreement settled the accounts with the concern- with Saudi Arabia; and ed contractors. Only one contractor pursued for restoration of their order, \b) if so, the details thereof? which was restored. However, as he did not accept the FWD rates offered by NTC, his contract was cancelled. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE Honouring of Export Commitments Construction of Bridges on Remuna .. RANGARAJAN KUMARAMAN- Durgadevi Road and, River Bndha- GALAM): (a) In accordance with balanga the provisions contained in articles 81, 82 and 330 of the Constitution of MS. DR. KARTIKESWAR PA- India, the delimitation of Lok Sabha TRA: Will the Minister of SUR- constituencies is to be done in such FACE TRANSPORT be pleased to manner as Parliament may by law state: determine. (a) the amount of funds released (b) Yes, Sir. so far by the Union Government and the extent of work completed on the (c) The Constitution (Seventy-first Bone bridge on Remuna- Durgadevi Amendment) Bill, 1990 introduced in Road and the bridge over river Rajya Sabha on 30th May, 1990 seeks Budhabalanga near Balighat in Bala- to provide for fresh delimitation on sore district of Orissa; and the basis of 1981 census without affecting the total number of seats al- (b) the action taken or proposed lotted to various States on the basis to be taken to complete the same in of 1971 census. No time limit for time? such delimitation can be given, at present, as further action in the mat- THE MINISTER OF STATE Of ter depends upon passing of the Bill THE MIN[STRY OF SURFACE by Parliament. fRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b) The bridges (d) Does not arise. in question fall on a State road and not a National Highway. The Go- verumeot of Orissa is, therefore, res- Customs Duty on Sugar of Milk used ponsible for construction of these in Homoeopathic Miedi'cmes' bridges. 647. DR. KRUPASINDl;IU GHOI : Will the Minister of FIN- Delimitation of Constituencies A NCE be pleased to state: 646. SHR1 GOVINDRAO NI- (a) whether sugar of milk is used KAM: Will the Minister of LAW, in homoeopathic medicines; JUSTICE AND COMPANY AF- (b) the quantity of sugar of milk F AIRS be pleased to state: imported and the ra·te of customs duty (a) the criteria for delimitation of levied thereon at various ports during Lok Sabha constituencies; the last two years, year-wise; (b) whether there is any proposal ~'c) whether any concession in cus- for fresh delimitation of Lok Sabha toms duty has been granted to im- constituencies; porters of Homoeopathic medicines far import of sugar of milk during Cc) if so, the details thereof and the last one year; and . when it is likely to be done; and (d) if so, the details thereof? (d) if not, the reason therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1HE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE THE MINISTRY OF PARLIA- (SHR) RAMESHWAR THAKUR}: MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MI- (a) In Ho Q y 'suoar of milk' . 1! '" NISTER OF STATE IN THE MI- IS used as vehicle- for the manufactur- NISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND ing and dispensing: of homoeopathic COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI medicines. .,' --..- . 53 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 54 (b) to (d) Rate of customs duty The information regarding quantity levied on ‘sugar of milk’ during the of ‘sugar of milk’ imported during the last two years and concessional rate last two years is being cpllected and of duty leviable thereon are specified the same will be laid on the Table in the attached statement. of the House. STATEMENTS SI. Period General Concessional Remarks No. Rate o f duty Rate o f duty (Basic + (Basic + Auxiliary 4- A uxiliary + Additional) Additional) 1. 1st March, 89 135.75% To ad valorem 19th March, 90 2. 20th March, 90 131.5% 60% The concessional rate of To ad valorem ad valorem duty was applicable to 14th December, 90 lactose of a kind used in homoeopathic medicines commonly known as ‘sugar of milk’. (Vide Notfn. No. 28/90-Cus. dt. 20-3-90). 3. 15th December, 90 137.29% 65% -do- To ad valorem ad valorem 24th July, 91 4. 25th July, 91 138.83% 65% The concessional rate of onwards ad valorem ad valorem duty is applicable in res- pect of lactose conforming to Homoeopathic Phar- macopoeia of India speci- fication imported for the manufacture of homeo- pathic modicines subject to the conditions pres- cribed in the notification. (Vide Notfn. No. 50/91- Cus. dt. 25-7-1991). fiftpwt of Homoeopathic Medicines view of indigenous manufacturing capacity: and 648. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRA- SAD SINGH: Will the Minister of (c) if so. the action taken by the COMMERCE be pleased to state: Government in this regard? ta) the import policy for homoeo- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Dathic medicines; . THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE f (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM) (a) (b) whether the Government have Import of “Homoeopathic medicines received representations for ban on in finished form or Homoeopathic imtjort of homoeopathy: medicines in drugs (single) in basic form and/or 55 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 56 of any potency” is being allowed by the steps taken or proposed to be all persons for actual use/stock and taken for the development/widening of sale. the Howrah-Kharagpur section of the National Highway No. 6? (b) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) Does not arise. THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- TLER): Development of National [Translation] Highways is a continuous process MozaffwpBf-Darbhanga-FariKKfanj and improvement works are taken up Bye-Pass keeping in view the existing conditions of the National Highways, traffic in- 649. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: tensity. inter-se priority on All India basis and availability of funds. Seven SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN: works amounting to Rs. 762.45 lakhs had been sanctioned for strengthening Will the Minister of SURFACE of the Howrah-Kharagpur section of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: National Highway No. 6 during the (a) the steps being taken for link- last three years. ing the Muzaffarpur-Dharbhanga-Faf- Strengthening works of certain stre- bisganj bye-pass of the National High- tches between km. 34 to 37 and way: 99 to 106 as also work of survey and (b) the time by which it is likely investigation for 4-laning between km. to be completed: and 17.4 to 80 of Howrah-Kharagpnr sec- tion of National Highway No. 6 are (c) the present position of the con- proposed to be sanctioned during struction of bridges on Kamala, Bhu- 1991-92. thi, Balan and Kosi rivers for the bye-pass? [Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Performance of Stanches of State THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Bank of Indore TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- TLER): (a) and (b) Presumably, the 651. SHRI RAM BADAN: Will Hon’ble Members are having in mind the Minister of FINANCE be pleas- the development of Muzaffarpur-Dar- ed to state: bhanga-Farbisganj Road in Bihar as a National Highway. A decision on (a) the number of branches of this issue would be taken only after State-Bank of Indore functioning in the finalisation of the 8th Five Year the country. State-wise as on June, Plan. 30, 1991; (c) The proposed bridges'in question (b) the number of branches of the presently lie on State Road network. above bank which suffered losses and As such, their construction falls with- which earned profits during the last in the purview of the State Govern- three years, year-wise; and ment. (c) the steps being taken to save those branches which are running in [English] loss? Widening of National Highway No. 6 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF . .FINANCE 650. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MIS- (SHRI DALDIR SINGH): (a) State- RA: Will tbe Minister of SURFACE wise numbin' of branches of State TRANSPORT be. pleased to state Bank of Indore functioning in the 57 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 58 country as on 30*6-91 are indicated 4. Adoption of aggressive market below: — strategies and increased train- ing inputs for improving opera- Name of State/ No. o tional efficiency and the quality Union Territory branches of services rendered. 5. Containing of over-heads and Rajasthan 3 controllable expenditure through optimum utilisation of availa- Delhi 6 ble resources and adoption of West Bengal 3 various austerity measures. Madhya Pradesh 289 6. Reducing non-performing assets Uttar Pradesh 7 through improved recoveries viz. compromises, out of court Gujarat 7 settlements, rephasement re- Maharashtra 11 scheduling etc. Andhra Pradesh 1 [English] Karnataka 1 Roads under BRTF far Assam Tamil Nadu 2 652. DR. JAYANTA RONGPI: Total : 330* Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: *One branch opened in May, 1991 (a) the total length of roads under Border Road Task Force (BRTF) in (b) Number of branches of State the two hill districts of Karbi Anglong Bank of Indore which suffered losses and N.C. Hill districts in Assam; and earned profit during the last three years are indicated below: — (b) the names of the roads; and 2. Increase in miscellaneous busi- Udharband-Jatinga 5.54 Nil ness to boost earnings. (April- Sept. 89) 3. Conducting regular income lea- kage audit of branches to ping Jatinga-Mahur 3.36 3.36 income leakages. 5—15 LSS/ND/91 59 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written A nswers 60 The upgradation to National High- (vii) contribution was made to Uj- way specification of the Udharband- jain M unicipa I Corporation of J atinga sector is being fu nded by the around Rs. 2 lakhs for other North-East Council from 1-10-1989. consequential expenses on Consequently, no separate maintenance roads and drainage work in funds are allotted by the NEC for Hira Mills chawl in 1990. this sector. Necessary repairs of houses are undertaken by the Mill Management [T raf/station] as and when required. Civic Amenities at Heera Mills of NTC in Ujjain [English] 653. SHRI SATYNARAYAN JA- Arrears of Central Excise Duty TrY A: Will the Minister of TEXTI- LES be pleased to state the steps 654. SHRI SYED SHAHABUD- taken by the Government fOr provid- DIN: Will the Minister of FINAN- ing civic amenities in the workers CE be pleased to state: complex of Heera Mills under National Textiles Corporation situated at Uj- (a) the total arrears of Central Ex- jain (M.P.) and the provision made -cise Duty as on March 31, 1989, for the repair of dilapidated houses? March 31, 1990 and March 31, 1991; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) the names of major. defaulters THE MINISTRY· OF TEXTILES with arrears of more than Rs. 1 crore (SHRT ASHOK GEHLOT): As per as on these dates with amount due; the agreement of National Textiles Corporation with the Ujjain Munici- (c) the total arrears of the major pal Corporation, the cleanliness of defaulters; the quarters/factory at Hira Mills. (d) whether any interest is payable Ujjain has been entrusted to the on the 'arrears; and Municipal Corporation, on monthly payment basis. Other civic amenities (e) the steps taken to collect the provided are as under:- arrears, including denial of expansion licence? and quotas for raw materials (i) electricity at the mills quarters in short supply? provided by the mills on char- geable basis. THE MINISTER OF STATE· IN (ii) street ligh s at the Mill's expen- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ses. (SHRl RAMESHWAR THAKUR): (a) Rs. 847 crores, Rs .. 973 crores (iii) water supply pipeline laid by and Rs. ]226 crores respectively. the mills for supply of water. (b) and (c) Information is being col- . (iv) repairs and white-washing of lected and will be laid on the Table mill quarters carried out by of the House. . the mills. (d) No, Sir. The Central Excises (v) separate recreation clubs in the and Salt Act, 1944 does not provide chawl in the mills campus pro- for charging interest. The arrears have vided by the mills. to be cleared immediately unless other- wise stayed by the competent autho- (vi) community latrines provided in rity. However, by executive instruc- the mills campus whose main- tions, in deserving cases on the request tenance/services charges paid of the party; instalments facility is by the. mills to the Municipal allowed provided the said party is Corporation. prepared to pay interest at the rate 61 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 62 of 17.5% per annum, compounded at res adequate provision of hank the end of each month. yarn for the handloom weavers. For augmenting yarn produc- (e) As the realisation of arrears of tion, assistance is given for revenue is an on going process, such setting up of new spindles, ex- measures, administrative, legal and pansion of the existing capaci- others, as are considered necessary ties by way of share capital from time to time continue to be participation in weavers coope- taken. In case of deliberate and per- rative spinning mills. National sistent tax default of huge amounts Handloom Development Cor- less preferential treatment in the mat- poration was set lip with a view ters concerning approval of applica- to augment yarn supply and tio n for capital issues, bonus shares, supply of dyes and chemicals to loans from banks/public financial in- the handloom weavers. stitutions, expansion licencing etc., is given. Provision of Finance.—A scheme is in operation for providing work- [ Translation] ing capital finance to primary/ apex cooperative societies Provision oi raw material iof weavers through cooperative banks. In- in Bihar dividual weavers in the fold of State level handloom corpora- 655. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE tions are assisted by the -Cor- R A I: Will the Minister of State for porations which get working TEXTILES be pleased to state: capital finance from nationalis- (a) whether the Government pro- ed banks and the other banks. pose to provide raw material, finance and proper market facilities to im- Marketing Assistance.—A compre- prove the lot of weavers in Sitamarhi hensive Market Development and Muzaffarpur districts of Bihar; Assistance scheme is being im- plemented by the Central Gov- 656. SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Postponement of Election in Punjab Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state; 657. SHRI LAL K. ADVAN1; SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJ- PAYEE: (a) the percentage of recovery in respect of bank loan schemes like- SHRI RAM VILAS PAS- Self-Employment to Educated Un- WAN: employed Youth Scheme, Integrated SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Rurai Development Programme and SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: other loans given for agricultural pur- poses during the last three years; SHRI RAJENDRA AGNI- HOTRI : (b) whether the Government pro- Will the Minister of LAW AND pose to take the bank documents out JUSTICE AND COMPANY of the purview of the law of limita- AFt-AIRS be pleased to state: tion to simplify the recovery procedure; (a) the date upto which the Gov- ernment and the Election Commission (c) if so, the details thereof; and held that elections in Punjab would be held on June 22, 1991, as per sche- (d) if not, the reasons therefor? dule; (b) the date on which the Commis- sion announced that the election were being postponed as the Commission THE MINISTER OF STATE IN felt that ‘free and fair’ elections were THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE not possible on June 22, as per “the (SHRI DALBIR SINGH); (a) The information available to him”; percentage of recovery of direct agri- cultural advances of public sector (c) by whom such information was banks for the years 1988, 1989 and supplied to the Election Commission 1990 was 56.8, 57.3 and 46.8 respec- in the above interim period; and tively. The percentage of recovery of 1RDP loans advanced by public sec- (d) the estimated expenditure in- tor banks for the years 1988, 1989 curred by the Government and per- and 1990 was 40.8, 39.1 and 30.8 res- sons and parties fighting for the June pectively. So far as Self Employment 22 elections? to Educated Unemployed Youth Schems (SEEUY) is concerned, Mini- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN stry of Industry has reported that THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- scheme was got evaluated by the office TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER of the Development Commissioner OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF through independent reputed institu- LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY tions. The evaluation studies have so AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARAJAN far been carried out in 16 States/ KUMARAMANGALAM): (a) and Union Territories covering a total of (b) The Election Commission, in ex- 21054 beneficiaries; of these 6412 ercise of the powers conferred upon loanees (41.17%) were found to be it by Sections 30 and 153 of the Re- in default in repayment of loans to presentation of People Act, 1951, and banks. all powers enabling it in this behalf, postponed the date of poll for Parlia- mentary constituencies in the State (b) No, Sir. of Punjab from 22 June, 1991 to 25 September, 1991 vide its notification (c) and (d) Do not arise. dated 20th June, 1991. Until the 20th. 65 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 191 { (SAKA) Written Answers 66 these elections were due to be held on private sector to bring about improve- 22 June, 1991. ment in the transport system of Delhi; (c) The Election schedule was be- (b) if so, the details thereof; ing constantly monitored by the Elec- tion Commission on the basis of in- (c) the time by which this proposal formation received from various sour- is likely to be implemented; and ces including the State Government, the Central Govt., the political par- (d) what other steps are proposed to ties, public men and the observers be taken to improve the transport sys- appointed by the- Election Commis- tem in Delhi? sion. The decision of the Commission to postpone elections was based not THE MINISTER OF STATE OF on any specific information received THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE by it at a particular point of time, TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- but on an assessment of all relevant TLER): (a) to (c) Yes, Sir. The Gov- factors and the totality of the situation ernment welcome the active participa- then prevalent. tion of the private sector to bring an (d) The estimated expenditure in- improvement in the transport system curred by the State Government was of Delhi. The Government have already approximately Rs. 3.46 crores. The recommended to the Delhi Adminis- figures of expenditure incurred by the tration to introduce a scheme of spe- persons and parties fighting for June cial stage carriage permits at a fare 22, 1991 elections are not available. structure higher than that of DTC. Border Trade with China (d) The Delhi Administration had engaged M /s RITES to take up a techno-economic feasibility study for 658. SHRI PRAKASHBAPU VA- the introduction of Mass Rapid Trans- SANTRAO PATIL: Will the Minis- port System for Delhi. The report was ter of COMMERCE be pleased to submitted to the Delhi Administration. state: The Government of India, in consulta- (a) whether the Government pro- tion with the Delhi Administration, pose to resume border trade with have constituted a Steering Com' China; and mittee to take preparatory action. (b) if so, the steps taken in this regard so far? The Delhi Administration have also been advised to grant additional stage carriage permits to private operators. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) [English] and (b) India and China have agreed, m in principle, to resume border trade. Corrosion of Imported Materials at The two sides have exchanged draft Mazagaon Docks Limited agreements in this regard. [Translation] 660. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: Will the Minister of DE- Participation of Private sector in FENCE be pleased to state: Transport System of Delhi (a) whether attention of the Gov- 659. SHRI SAJJAN KUMAR: ernment has been drawn to the news Will the Minister of SURFACE item captioned “Sub material rusting” TRANSPORT be pleased to state: appearing in the Hindustan Times dated April 17, 1991; (a) whether the Government pro- pose to encourage participation of the (b) if so, the facts in this regard; 67 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 68 (c) die reasons for not utilising the (b) if so* the details thereof and material for construction of sub-ma- the reasons therefor? rines and how the Government pro- pose to consume the material; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) whether any responsibility has been fixed for the same; and THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) (e) if so, the action taken against and (b) The Reserve Bank of India the "concerned persons? in the recent past had introduced cer- tain restrictions on import finance. THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE Lifting of curbs will depend on the (SHRI SHARAD PA WAR): (a) Yes, Sir. 'Balance of Payment’ position. (b) and (c) The total value of submarine material imported from [ Translation] West Germany so far is valued at Rs. 138.00 crores. Of this, material valued at Rs. 134.88 crores (97.3.) Resettlement of Ex-Servicemen has already been used in the construc- tion of the two submarines. The 662. PROF. PREM DHUMAL: balance 21% will be utilised as Will ihe Minister of DEFENCE be under:— pleased to state: Material valued at within one Rs. 3.12 crores year for the (a) the percentage of ex-servicemen remaining who have been resettled after their construction retirement during the last three years, work. year-wise; Material valued at During future Rs. 60 lakhs refits/repairs. (b) whether they are being resettled as per the prescribed percentage pn>- (d) a»d (e) Do not arise in view of vided for ex-servicemen: and replies to parts (b) and (c) above. (ci if not. the reasons therefor? Curbs on Imports 661. SHRI LOKANATH CHOU- THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE DHURY: Will the Minister of {SHRI SHARAD PAWAR): (a) COMMERCE be pleased to state: Placement of ex-Servicemen, in civil (a) whether the Government pro- jobs including the private sector, is pose to lift curbs on imports; and as follows:— Year No. of No. No. No. % . retires desires of pro vided w.r.t. employ- employ- Col. (3) ment ment assistance i m 55,295 35,I W '**‘21,872 60.96% 1989 . . 62,274 37,849 18,853 49.81 % 1990 * T...... 5, „ 53,979 31.868 15,909 42.92% 69 Written Answers SRAVANA 4. 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 (b) and (c) Ex-Servicemen cannot Irregnlaritfes in Punjab and Sind be resettled as per the prescribed re- Bank cervafions for various reasons, inter- alia: 664. SHRI UDAYSINGHRAO GAIK WAD: Will the Minister of (i) Reluctance of ex-Servicemen to take up civil employment far FINANCE be pleased to state: from their homes. (a) whether attention of the' Gov- (ii) A large percentage of ex-Ser- ernment has been drawn to the news- vicemen are unable to satisfy item captioned “Punjab & Sind Bank the various prescribed criteria/ Ki Sadar Shakha Mein Ek Karod Se Qualifications of the civil jobs Jyada Ka Gclmal” appearing in Jan- reserved for them. e tta dated July 3, 1991; (iii) A limited number of ex-Ser- (b) if so, the facts in this regard; vicemen are available for ab- sorption against the reserved (c) whether the Government pro- vacancies in scientific and in- pose to conduct an inquiry into the dustrial appointments. matter; and (iv) The reluctance of ex-Service- men to join Central Police Or- (d) if not, the reasons therefor? ganisations and Para Military Forces which have a substan- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tial number of vacancies reser- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ved for them. (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) and (b) Central Economic Intelligence Bureau [English] (CEIB) advised the Branch Manager, Sadar Branch of Punjab & Sind Bank Appointment of SCs/STs Judges in on 15-5-91 not to make payment of High Courts 40 Fixed Deposit Receipts (FDRs) since they were suspected to be in 663. SHR! KRISHAN DUTT bogus names. However, the Branch SULTAN PUR I: Will the Minister of Manager released these 40 FDRs agg- LAW. JUSTICE AND COMPANY regating to Rs. 1.02 crores (including AFFAIRS be pleased to state: interest) on 15th May, 1991 itself. The proceeds were credited by way (a) the vacancies of Judges in the of Manager's cheques, to the respec- different High Courts under the Sche- tive Savings Bank Accounts, which duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes re- were hurriedly opened on 15-5-1991, servation category. Court-wise: and without complying with the formali- ties connected with opening of new (b) the steps being taken to fill up accounts. The amounts were with- the vacancies? drawn from these S/B accounts on the 16th May. 1991. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- (c) Yes. Sir. The branch manager TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER has been suspended and the matter OF STATE TN THE MINISTRY has been taken up by Central Bureau Or I AW, JUSTICE AND COM- of Investigation. PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGA- RAJAN KUMARAMANG \LAM): (d) does not arise. (a) and (b) Appointment of'Judges of the High Courts are made in terms of relevant provisions of the Constitu- Export of Basmati Rke tion of India which do not provide for reservation for any caste or class 665. SHRI SOBHANA DRES- of Jew ess. WARA RAO VADDE: Will the M i- 71 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 72 nister of COMMERCE be pleased to (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): state: (a) A statement of export of basmati rice for the last three years (Year-wise (a) the quantity and value of the and country-wise) is attached. Basmati Rice Exported during the last three years, country-wise and year- (b) Yes, Sir. wise; (c) Government assists export of (b) whether there is scope for in- basmati rice by sponsoring delega- creasing export of basmati and few tions to the major overseas markets, other superfine varieties of rice; and helping exporters to participate in (c) if so, the steps taken in this the trade fairs and by providing infra- structural support. The recent ex- regard? change rate adjustments and enlarged REP (Exim Scrip) scheme would THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN have a favourable impact on basmati THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE rice exports. STATEMENT Coimtrywise and Yearwise Exports of Basmati Rice Qty. M. Tonne Value: Rs. Lakh Country 1988-89 1989-90 1990-91 Qty. Value Qty. Value Qty. Value TOTAL 349687 33353 396895 41206 241876 28813 MIDDLE EAST 183954 19145 253451 28359 192361 22883 Bahrain 5825 637 9900 1487 8394 1166 Kuwait 33890 3706 46852 5403 9739 1135 Oman 17925 1665 12961 1347 2481 298 Qatar 1081 118 625 79 1168 152 Saudi Arabia 108521 10765 159739 17327 154080 17907 U.A.E. 16712 2254 23374 2716 16448 2217 Yamen Pdr 51 8 WESTERN EUROPE 24328 2879 21095 2305 25578 3025 Belgium 21 3 442 59 63 9 France 500 61 1070 122 1008 121 Germany FR 137 21 250 36 620 78 Netherlands 596 97 3392 408 6695 830 Norway 56 8 145 20 142 22 U. K. 23018 2689 15796 1660 16649 1912 Denmark 43 7 Greece 63 7 73 Written A nswers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Al1swers 74 Country 1988-89 1989-90 1990-91 Qty. Value Qty. Value Qty. Vahie ------Italy 232 31 Sweden 63 8 North America 10.169 1240. 6877 1095 5336 885 U.S.A. 9395 1127 6464 10.36 4323 723 Canada 774 113 413 59 10.13 162 ESCAP 183 24 42 5 83 12 Hong Kong I 53 9 Singapore 90. 9 21 2 Sri Lanka Malasia Australia 38 6 21 3 62 8 Thailand 21 4 'EASTERN EUROPE 130746 100.32 10.9982 8687 575 69 U.S.S.R. 130746 100.32 10.9982 8687 575 69 AFRICA 277 28 21 2 Seychelles 73 7 Mauritius 21 2 Dijibouti 20.4 21 OTHERS 30 5 5427* 767 17943** 1939** Source: Daily list of exporters of the Custom Houses & Kandla, Jamnagar Port Trust. Based on Kandla POI't Trust. * Exports through Bombay & Cochin Ports for which countrywise figures are not available. ** Includes 1750.0.tonnes & valued at 19 crores of export from Kand la Port for which countrywise detail are not available. Expansion of Public Transport individuals and effect savings in the use of petrol and diesel; and 666. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VERMA: Will the Minister of (b) if not, the reasons therefor? SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleas- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ed to state: THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH (a) whether the Government pro- TYTLER): (a) Yes, Sir. Govern- pose to liberalise expansion of public ment have recommended to the Delhi transport in the public and Private Administration to introduce a scheme Sectors to meet the requirements of of special stage carriage permits at a different classes of travelling public, fare structure higher than that of. curb the use of private vehicles by Delhi Transport Corporation, with 6-15 LS~rND.'91 75 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 76 more comforts, to wean away passen- The question of bringing the audit gers who presently use personalised of nationalised banks and the Life vehicles, -to public transport. The Insurance Corporation of India with- State Governments have also been in the purview of C&AG has been asked to take action on similar lines examined in the recent past. It to make public transport more attrac- was found that the existing system of tive and -to effect savings in the use of audit and internal inspections/control petrol and diesel. in public sector banks, including na- tionalised banks and public financial (b) Does not arise in view of reply institutions like Life Insurance Cor- to (a) above. poration of India, is working smooth- ly. Further, in view of the nature of commercial operations of these insti- Audit of Nationalised Banks and tutions there is need to ensure a pro- Financial Institutions by Comptroller per mix of autonomy and accountabi- and Auditor General of India lity. Therefore, the Government do not consider it necessary to entrust the audit of these organisations to the 667. SHRI ANADI CHARANComptroller & Auditor General of DAS: Will the Minister of FINAN- India. CE be pleased to state: (a) whether there is a persistent de- Implementation of Service Area Ap- mand for entrusting the Comptroller proach Programme by Public Sector and Auditor Genera] of India with the Basks audit of nationalised banks and other financial institutions such as Life In- 668. PROF. RAM KAPSE: Will surance Corporation, General Insur- the Minister of FINANCE be pleas- ance Corporation etc; and ed to state: (b) if so, the reaction of the Go- (a) the progress made by Public vernment thereto? Sector Banks so far in the implemen- tation of Service Area Approach Pro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN gramme; THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) De- (b) whether the Regional Rural mands have been made from time to Banks can implement the above pro- time for entrusting the Comptroller gramme in a better way; and Auditor General of India with the audit of nationalised banks and other (c) whether there is any proposal financial institutions. for expansion of Regional Rural Banks; and (b) The audit of the General Insu- rance Corporation (GIQ which is a (d) if so, the details thereof? Government Company registered under the Companies Act, 1956 is within the purview of the Comptroller THE MINISTER OF STATE IN & Auditor. General of India (C&AG). THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE The accounts of the nationalised (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) The banks and the Life Insurance Cor Service Area Approach to rural lend- potation of India are audited by the ing launched by Reserve Bank of statutory auditors who are qualified India became operational with effect to act as auditors of a company under from 1st April, 1989. The public the Companies Act 1956 and are ap- sector banks have been preparing cre- pointed by them with the prior ap* dit plans under this new dispensation proval/consultation of the Govern- for the last 3 years i.e. 1989-90, 1990- 'in iccordance with die provi- 91 and 1991-92. The data available sfbnt of &e statutes governing them. so far indicates that the performance 77 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 1% of public sector banks since the intro- been satisfactory. The data for 19*^ duction of Service Area Approach has 90, 1990-91 is given below: — (Rs. in crores) (Provisional) Public Sector Banks Target for Achievements Target for 1989-90 for 1989-90 1990-91 1. Agriculture & Allied activities 4316 3838 5025 2. Small Scale Industries 1603 1596 1558 3. Other priority sectors 1616 1425 1641 Total 7535 6859 8224 (b) Service Area allocations are to (c) There is no proposal at pre- made to all commercial banks i.e. pu- sent to set up Tiruppur as an Export blic sector banks, private sector banks Processing Zone as most of the exist- and Regional Rural Banks (RRBs). ing Zones are yet to be fully utilized. Keeping in view the resource position of RRBs and their nature of lendings, the responsibility to cater to the cre- Fire m Sena Bhavan dit needs of non-target group of bor- rowers in the service area of RRBs 670. SHRI BHUWAN CHAN- has been entrusted to designated bran- DRA KHANDURI: Will the Mini- ches of commercial banks which are ster of DEFENCE be pleased to state: by and large sponsor bank branches. In case of financially weak RRBs, the (a) whether a fire broke out ifl responsibility of catering to the cre- Army Headquarters, "Sena Bhavan’ in dit needs of even the target group is the last week of June, 1991. that of the designated branches of commercial banks. (b) if so, the number of secret and other important documents damaged (c) No, Sir. due to the fire; (d) Does not arise. (c) whether any responsibility has been fixed in this regard; and Export Processing Zone in Tamil Nadu (d) if so, the details thereof? 669. SHRI C. K. KUPPU- SWAMY: Will the Minister ol THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE COMMERCE be pleased to state: (SHRI SHARAD PA WAR): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether there is any proposal to declare Tiruppur, in Tamil Nadu (b) No classified or important do- as an Export Processing Zone for cuments were destroyed/damaged hosiery garments; the fire. (b) if so, the details thereof: and (c) and (d) A Court of Inquiry has been set up to investigate causes of (c) if not, the reasons therefor? fire, to determine the extent of da- mage and to recommend remedial THE MINISTER OF STATE OF measures. Responsibility for the THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE fire will be fixed on the basis of the (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) report of the Court of Inquiry. 79 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 80 [Translation] (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken by the Government in this Fidum ti Bate of Rupee regard? 671. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNI- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN HOTRI: Will the Minister of FIN- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ANCE be pleased to state: (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) to (c) Reserve Bank of India has report- (a) whether the Government pro- ed that test checks were conducted by pose to bring any further change in its Regional Offices in selected bran- the rupee exchange rate in future; ches of the public sector commercial banks in each of the districts in the (b) if so, when; and country to ensure that the eligibility criteria laid down in the Agricultural (c) if not, the time by which pack- & Rural Debt Relief (ARDR) Sc- age trade reforms are likely to be heme, 1990 have been followed by implemented? them. RBI has further reported that a consolidated report on the test THE MINISTER OF STATE IN checks is under preparation. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): Diamond Export (a) No, Sir. There is no proposal under consideration of the Govern- 673. SHRI RAM VILAS PAS- ment to bring any further change in WAN: Will the Minister of COM- the rupee exchange rate. MERCE be pleased to state: (a) whether attention of the Go- (b) Does not arise. vernment has been drawn to the news item appearing in Times of India dat- (c) Implementation of package ol ed 6 June, 91 stating that finished trade reforms, as announced by Com- diamond worth Rs. 600 crore did not merce Minister, on 4th July, 1991, has find their way either to the local mai- commenced through a series of noti- ket or in the exported jewellery; and fications dated 4th July, 1991. (b) if so, the reaction of the Go- vernment thereto? [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF R.B.L Survey Regarding Loan Waiver THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE Scheme (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) Yes, Sir. 672. SHRI HARI KISHORE (b) The news item is reportedly SINGH: based on a study of the Diamond In- SHRI RAM VILAS PAS- dustry in Gujarat conducted by the WAN: Slate Joint Industries Commissioner. The details of the study have been sought from the Government of Will the Minister of FINANCE be Gujarat. pldfsed to state: (a) whether a sample survey con- Narcotics Smuggling ducted by the Reserve Bank of India 674. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will of certain branches of the nationalis- the Minister of FINANCE be pleas- ed banks in the country has revealed ed to state: exaggerated claims regarding loan waiver scheme; (a) the number of cases of narcotics smuggling detected during the years (b) if so, the details thereof; and 1990 and 1991 so far, state-wise; 81 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 82 (b) the number of persons appre- (i) enacting a new law in 1985 hended in these cases and the number and further strengthening its of foreigners out of them, country- provisions in 1989, wise; and (ii) creating a Central nodal en- (c) the steps taken or proposed to forcement agency i.e. Narco- be taken by the Government to check tics Control Bureau in 1986 narcotics smuggling? and strengthening it in 1990, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (iii) Improving inter-state and inter THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE agency enforcement coordina- (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): tion through the N.C.B., (a) and (b) The number of cases of (iv) Arranging training of Cus- narcotics smuggling detected during toms, Police and other enforce- the years 1990 and 1991 and the num- ment officers through courses ber of foreigners arrested, country- organised in various training wise are furnished in the statement institutions, annexed. (v) Improving international, re- Total number of persons arrested gional bilateral cooperation in in these cases are as under: drug enforcement by ratifying 1990 1991 (upto June) the U.N. Convention of 1988, (Provisional) formulating the SAARC Con- vention of 1990 and signing 4032 4540 bilateral agreements with se- veral friendly foreign countries (c) The Government have taken such as U.S.A., Mauritius and various steps such as: Afghanistan. Number of Cases o f Narcotics smuggling detected during the year 1990 and 1991 State-wise Number o f cases delected Name of the State 1990 1991 (As on 17-7-91) (Provisional) 1 2 3 1. Andhra Pradesh . 42 JO 2. Andaman and Nicobar Island 3. Arunachal Pradesh . 4 4. Assam...... 32 180 5. Bihar ...... 647 330 6. Chandigarh...... 9 7. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 8. Daman & Diu .... . 9.Goa ...... ’ . * . 33 12 10. D e l h i ...... 383 526 83 Written Answers JULY 26, m i Written Answers - 84 1 2 3 11. G u j a r a t ...... 24 11 12. H a r y a n a ...... 144 129 13. Himachal Pradesh .... 65 6 14. Jammu & Kashmir .... 13 11 15. K arnataka ...... 3 2 16. K e r a l a ...... 71 27 17. Lakshadweep ...... 18. Madhya Pradesh...... 49 19 19. M a h a r a s h tr a ...... 319 676 20. M a n ip u r ...... 45 129 21. M eghalaya...... 18 22. M iz o r a m ...... 29 69 23. Nagaland ...... 52 74 24. O r i s s a ...... 4 1 25. P o n d ic h e r r y ...... 26. P u n j a b ...... 45 32 27. Rajasthan ...... 93 39 28. Sikkim ...... 29. Tamil Nadu ..... 953 1257 30. Tripura ...... 5 31. Uttar P r a d e s h ...... 566 1088 32. West Bengal ..... 250 18 Total ...... 3898 4646 Number of Foreign Nationals arrestea in India in 1990 and in 1991 (up to June) Arrested in Nationality t------—K ^ 1990 1991 (up to June) 1 2 3 N ig eria n ...... 104 20 Srilankan...... 13 B u rm ese...... 13 3 B r i t i s h ...... 9 2 85 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 1 2 3 Pakistani . . . .. 9 4 Afgan 5 2 G e r m a n ...... 5 3 South A fr ic a n ...... 7 Zambian ...... 4 Tanzanian . 2 S e n e g a l i z e ...... 3 G h an ian ...... 3 Kenyan ...... 2 B a n g la d e s h i...... 4 2 S p a n is h ...... 2 1 Argentine . 1 I t a l i a n ...... S w i s s ...... 2 i A u strian ...... 1 2 French 4 3 Canadian ....*. 2 D u t c h ...... 1 Nepalese ...... 3 7 G r e e k ...... 2 Benin ...... 1 Malian ...... 1 G u in ea n ...... 1 American...... 1 I s i a e l i ...... T o g o ...... 1 Thai ...... 1 Ugandan . ... 1 Djibutian . 1 G a m b ia ...... 3 D a n i s h ...... 1 Zairean . . ... 1 1 Under Verification . 20 2 Total . 234 69 87 Written Answers JULY 26. 1991 Written Answers 88 Telicfeeny—Chkhradurga National overall objective of development and Hfebway increasing foreign exchange inflows. Constant effort is also made to stream- 675. SHRI K. MURALEEDHA- line the procedure and remove bottle- RAN: Will the Minister of SURFACE necks and irritants for prospective TRANSPORT be pleased to state: NRI investors. (a) whether the preliminary work of Tellicherry—Chithradurga Nation- Introduction of New Tank, Air-craft, al Highway has been completed; and and Missiles (b) if so, the time by which this 677 SHRI HAR1N PATHAK: National Highway is likely to be com- Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleted? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) whether the main battle tank THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE ‘ARJUN’, Light Combat Aircraft TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH (LCA) and different missiles are ready for introduction in the Defence TYTLER): (a) and (b) Tellicherry— Forces: Chithradurga road is on State High- way network and is not a paft of the National Highway system. The Gov- (b) if so, when these are likely to ernments of Kerala and Karnataka be introduced: are responsible for its development. (c) if not, the reasons for delay in their production ^nd the likely in- NRI Problems Regarding Direct crease in the cost as a result thereof; Investment 676. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will (d) whether any decision has been the Minister of FINANCE be pleased taken for procurement/construction of to state: the new aircraft carrier for the Navy; and (a) whether a delegation *of non- resident Indians has recently submit- (e) if so. the details in this regard? ted a memorandum in connection with various problems relating to direct investment in Tndia: THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI SHARAD PAWAR): (a) Main (b) if so, the details of the memo- battle tank ‘ARJUN’, Light Combat randum; and Aircraft (LCA) and different missiles are at various stages of development/ (c) the Government’s reaction there- evaluation. to? (b) Main battle tank ‘ARJUN’ is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN expected to be introduced into service THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE after completion of trials by Army (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): in 1992. Delivery of LCA to Air (a) to (c) Government receives Force is likely to commence during from time to time various memo- first half of the next decade. The sur- randa/suggestions from NRIs/NRT face-to-Surface missile PRrTHVI and organisations to simplify proce- Surface-to air missile ■ TR TSHUL are dure, review policies and to pro- likely to be introduced in Army in vide better incentives to create 1992. Third generation anti-tank mis- a more favourable climate for sile NAG and medium range Surface- NRI investments. These sugges- to-air missile AKASH are expected to tions are duly examined and imple- be delivered to Services in 1994 and mented to the extent they fit in the 1995 respectively. 89 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 90 (c) The reasons for delay and in- Gujarat under Road Development crease in cost of main battle tank Plan during the period from 1961 to ‘ARJUN’ are: 1981; (i) Changes in Qualitative Re- (b) the extent to which the target quirements by the Army. has been achieved so far; (ii) Requirements of additional (c) the time by which the target is prototypes for trials. likely to be achieved: (iii) Requirement of pre-production series tanks. (d) whether the Union Government have received any proposals from the (iv) More realistic assessment of Government of Gujarat to declare technical and user trials. The new National Highways in the State; revised cost of main battle tank ARJUN project is Rs. 280.8 (e) if so. the details thereof; and crores as compared to original estimate of Rs. 15.5 crores. (f) the roads which will be declared National Highways in Gujarat during The development of LCA has been the Eighth Five Year Plan period? delayed mainly in obtaining critical technologies from abroad, non-avail- ability of inadequate infrastructure THE MINISTER OF STATE OF and the level of indigenously availa- THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE ble technologies. Cost of LCA pro- TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- ject at 1982-83 price level was Rs. 560 TLER): (a) to (c) The 20 year Road crores. The estimated cost of the pro- ject upto first phase of Full Scale Development Plan for 1961-81 recom- Engineering Development for two mended a target of 51,500 Kms for LCA technology demonstrator air- National Highways by 1981 for the craft is Rs. 1670 crores. The Missile entire country, but no State-wise break programme in progress is more or less up was given. The targets indicated on schedule: however, the project cost has been revised from Rs. 388.83 in this Plan were merely of recom- crores to Rs. 784.06 crores. mendatory nature, whereas additions to the National Highway network de- (d) No. Sir. pend mainly on the Plan Outlays. At (e) Does not arise. present, the total length of National Highways stands at 33,689 Kms in- cluding those declared as National [Translation] Highways since 1961. Further addi- tions to the National Highway net- National Highways in Gujarat work would depend upon Plan alloca- tions for the purpose from time to time. 678. SHRI CHHTTUBHAI GAMIT: (d) to (f) The Government of Gtij- SHRI HARIN PATHAK: jarat has forwarded 7 proposals for new National Highways as per the Will the Minister of SURFACE attached Statement. The question of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: declaration of new National High- (a) the target in Kilometres fixed ways would be considered only after for constructing National Highways in the 8th Plan is finalised. 91 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 92 STATEMENT Length in Kms. 1. Extension of Calcutta— Nagpur— Dhule NH No. 6 to Dhule-Surat—Hajira linking NH No. 8 in Gujarat 16C 2. Gandhinagar - Ahmedabad— Godhra— Dahod— Indore— 250 Bhopal 3. Malia— Jamnagar— Okha—Porbandhar— Veraval- Diu— Bhavnagar— Karjan linking NH No. 8 near Vadodara 900 4. Rajkot— Jamnagar— Vadinar Road 150 5. Extension of NH No. 8 A from Kandla to Manavi— Maliya— Narayan Sarovar 206 6. Vadodara— S in o r Natrang— Vyara— Ahwa— Sputara— Nasik Road linking NH No. 8 with NH No. 3. 245 7. Link road from Palanpur on NH 14 to Gandhinagar— Ahmedabad NH 8. 150 T o t a l 2061 Kms. Widening of Delhl-Cakutta National [English] Highway Disbursement of External Assistance 679. SHRI BHAGWAN SHAN- to States KAR RAWAT: Will the Minister of 680. SHRI DATTATRAYA SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased BANDARU: to state: SHRI RAMESH CHAND TOMAR: (a) whether the Government pro- pose to widen the Delhi-Calcutta Na- SHRIMATI MAHENDRA tional Highway into four lanes upto KUMARI: Agra; and SHRI PRABHU DAYAL KATHERIA: (b) if so, the time by which the SHRI VIRENDRA SINGH: above National Highway would be widened? Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) the details of the various pro- THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE jects, proposals received from the State Governments of Andhra Pradesh. TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- Karnataka, Rajasthan and Uttar TLER): (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. Out of Pradesh for consideration of external the 200 kms length of National High- assistance during the last three years way No. 2 from Delhi to Agra, the till date; stretch from Delhi to Ballabgarh (b) the amount of external assist- (42 kms) is already 4-lane, as also ance sought and the amount propos- another 10 kms in various reaches. ed to be extended, State-wise and pro- ject-wise and the details of the institu- Four-laning from Ballabgarh to Ma- tions/countries from which assistance thura (96 kms) has also been sanc- has been sought; tioned. Widening of the National (c) the details of the projects, pro- Highway from Mathura to Agra posal approved by the Union Gov- (52 kms) is included in the Annual ernment for external assistance. State- Programme 1991-92. wise; 93 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 94 (d) the details of such proposals (d) and (e) Project proposals from pending approval with the Union Gov- State Governments for external assis- ernment; tance are mostly sent to the line Mi- (e) the reasons for delay in approv- nistries. This is a continuing process ing the same; and and various mandatory clearances from the Planning Commission, and (f) the external assistance disburs- administrative Ministries are required ed to these States during the above to be taken before finalisation. Hence, period, State-wise and year-wise? at any point of time, exact details of such projects are difficult to quantify THE MINISTER OF STATE IN or enumerate. Further the extent and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE timing of commitment depends on the (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): status of lending programme of the (a) to (c) Details of projects which donors. had been received with due clearances and tied-up for external assistance during the last three years in the (f) Amount of assistance released States of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, State-wise during the last three years Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh are pro- in respect of all on-going externally vided in the Statement attached. aided projects is as follows: (Rupees Crores) State 1988-89 1989-90 1990-91 1991-92 ANDHRA PRADESH . 35.78 38.09 68.05 67.36 KARNATAKA. • 31.03 44.80 67.91 34.31 RAJASTHAN . • < 28.13 9.35 12.44 5.84 UTTAR PRADESH . % 9 76.55 239.79 292.69 126.51 STATEMENT SI. Name o f the project Donor agency Amount o f No. assistance in donor currency million 1 2 3 4 I. ANDHRA PRADESH 1. A.P. Cyclone Emergency Re- construction IDA/IBRD US s 210.00 2. Royaiaseema Thermal Power A.D.B. u s $ 230.00 3. A.P. Primary School Build mg. U.K. £ 0.630 4. A.P. School Building Phase-11 U.K. £ 27.90 5. Hyderabad Habitat Phase-111 U.K. £ 14.94 6. Vijayawada Slum Improvement. U.K. £ 16.25 7. A.P. Tribal Development IFAD US $ 20.00 95 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 96 SL Name o f the project Donor agency Amount o f assistance in No, donor currency mUf on 1 2 3 4 8. Hyderabad Water Supply and Sanitation IBRD/IDA US $ 89.90 9. Drinking Water Supply Netherlands Rs. 138.92 crores. 10. AP Rural Water Supply 95 Rs. 153.00 million. 11. AP Rural Water Supply 99 Rs. 12.76 „ 12. Rural Water Supply 99 Rs. 84.00 crores. 13. Training of Women in agricul- 9* Rs. 5.62 „ ture. 14. Drinking Water Supply Rs. 21.50 (Anandapur) 15. AP Tubewell Project 99 Rs. 50.00 16. Surface Waterlift irrigation 99 schemes. Rs. 118.93 II. KARNATAKA 1. Karnataka Pdwer IBRD US s 260.00 2. Upper Krishna Phase 11 Irri- gation. IDA/IBRD US s 320.24 3. Integrated Rural Water and Sanitation. Denmark DKR ,50.00 4. Grant for Increasing Food production. Japan JY 600.00 5. Raichur Thermal Power Sta- tion Expansion. Japan JY 23142.CO 6. Mysore Paper Mill Moderni- sation and Renewal. Japan JY 2381.00 7. Rural Small & micro enter- prises Dev Netherland Rs. 8.432 crores 8. Development Uogradation of slums in Bangalore. 99 Rs. 41.60J„ (approx) 9. Rural Water Supply 99 DFL 13.00 million grant 10. Development of Coconut OECF Rs. 35.7j croies. plantaion. 11. Comprehensive Land use Management Programme (CLUMP) 99 Rs. 190.20 12. Raichur Hospital Project OPEC $ 9.0 Million 91 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913(&<4&4) Written Answers 98 SI. Name o f the project Donor agency Amount o f assistance in No. donor currency million 1 2 3 4 III. RAJASTHAN 1. Rajasthan Agricultural Drai- Canada CANS 57.54 nage. 2. Goat Development Foder Pro- duction Switzerland Indian 10.20 Crs. Rupees. 3. Indira Gandhi Nahar Project Japan JY 84.00 4. Rajasthan Minor Irrigation-I FRG DM 12.30 5. Afforestation and Pasture deve- lopment in Indira Gandhi Canal area. OECF Rs. 80.00 6. Agricultural Drainage Research Canada C$ 57.54 million 7. Rajasthan Minor Irrigation Germany DM 15.00 million IV. UTTAR PRADESH 1. U.P. Power IBRD US s 350.00 2_ Unchahar Thermal Power Ex- pansion A.D.B. US s 160.00 3. Kanpur Electricity Distribution U.K. £ 9.60 4. South Bhagirathi Phase-II E.E.C. grant ECU 8.40 5. Anpara Thermal Power Sta- tion-Ill Japan JY 49801.00 6. Integrated Watershed Manage- ment Project (Kutchgad) Netherland Rs. 9.00 crores. 7. UP Sub -Project VI ?? (Dutch- 25.00 guilder) million 8. UP Sub-project VII i 't Rs 2.54 crores. 9. UP „ „ VIII 99 Rs 30.00 (appx) 10. Surface Water storage struc- ture in Bundelkhand region. Rs 21.15 11. South Bhagirath Phase >11 EEC ECU 8.4 million 12. Bhimta integrated Watershed Management Programme. EEC ECU 4.4 million 13. Annapura Transmission Project OECF Rs 379.61 Crores 14. Forest Communication Project 99 Rs 11.01 Crores 99 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 100 Multi-State Projects SI. Name o f the project Donor Agency Amount(@ @) Remarks No. o f assistance in donor currency U S$ million 1 1. National Seeds project-HI IDA 150.00 Covers eleven States including A.P., Karnataka Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh. 2. VITH Population IDA/IBRD 124.60 Three States including A.P. and U.P. 3. Vocational Training IDA/IBRD 280.00 National vide project and includes A.P. Karnataka Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh. 4. latergrated Child Deve- IDA/IBRD 106.00 Two States including lopment Services-I. A.P.‘ ~ 5. National Sericulture IBRD 25.07") Andhra Pradesh Switzerland 3.52 I. IBRD 37.73 ; Karnataka Switzerland 5.27J* 6. Road Improvement project A.D.B. 37.89 Andhra Pradesh A.D.B. 26.84 Karnataka 7. Second Roads Project A.D.B. 10.51 Andhra Pradesh A.D.B. 30.92 Uttar Pradesh 8. Second Port Project A.D.B. 77.90 Andhra-Pradesh 9. First Technician Education IDA/IBRD 260.00 Covers eight State including U.P., Karnataka & Rajasthan. 10. Second Technician project IDA 307.1 Nine States and Union Territories including Andhra Pradesh 11. Integrated Watershed IDA/IBRD 62.00 3 States including Development (Plains) Rajasthan 12. States Road project IBRD 58.00 Rajasthan IBRD 85.70 Uttar Pradesh 13. Dam Safety project IDA/IBRD 153.00 4 States including Rajasthan «ii Expuufon of AgricvttnnlCredit (ii) It will dispense with proce- Card Scheme dural formalities such as mak- ing applications, furnishing 681. SHRI RAMESH CHAND land record certificates and TOMAR: documentation or every agri- SHRIM ATI MAHENDR A cultural season. KUMARI: (iii) It will also dispense with the SHRIMATI SUMITRA necessity of the farmer carry- MAHAJAN: ing cash for purchase of pro- duction inputs. SHRI PRABHU DAYAL KATHERIA: (c) As per information available Agricultural credit card scheme has Will the Minister of FINANCE been introduced by Dena Bank, Uni- be pleased to state: on Bank of India, Bank of Maha- rashtra, New Bank of India, Andhra (a) whether some public sector Bank, Vijaya Bank, Indian Over- banks have introduced Agricultural seas Bank, Syndicate Bank, Punjab credit cards in selected districts in and Sind Bank, State Bank of In- some States; dia, Canara Bank, United Bank of India, Allahabad Bank, Punjab Na- (b) if so, the criteria for issuing tional Bank, Corporation Bank, Cen- such cards to fanners and the dis- tral Bank of India, UCO Bank, tricts selected for the purpose, State- State Bank of Mysore and Bank of wise; Baroda on an experimental basis in selected areas of States. (c) the names of the public sector banks which have introduced the (d) The data reporting system does above scheme; not generate the information in the manner asked for. (d) the number of farmers bene- fited through Agricultural credit (e) and (f) Public Sector Banks cards scheme during 1990-91; take measures on their own like in- troducing credit cards to farmers with (e) whether the Government pro- a view to provide easy and timely pose to expand the scheme all over credit to the formers and also to aug- the country during 1991-92; and ment credit flow to agriculture sec- tor. (f) if so, the details thereof and if not, the reasons therefor? Special Trailing to SC/ST Bank Managers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE 682. DR. P. VALLAL PERU- (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) and MAN: Will the Minister of FIN- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleas- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ed to state: (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) to (a) the projects and schemes pro- (c) The information is being collect- posed by the Government of Orissa ed and will be laid on the Table of pending clearance; and the House. (b) the action taken in each case so far? Projects from Orissa Pending THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Clearance TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b) The informa- 683. SHRI BRAJA KISHORE tion is given in the attached State- TRIPATHY: Will the Minister of ment. STATEMENT SL Name o f the Project/Scheme o f the Govt, o f Action taken No. Orissa pending clearance — • ■ - : : : 3 E & I Works 1. Improvement to Ja«pur (Kota)-Malkangin-Motv-M.P. These Schemes are Border road including bridge over “Saberi” near Motu pending for want of (MP Border) 130 K.M. finalisation of the 8th Plan. 2. Improvement to road from Kareda to Khariar Road -do- (MP Border) via Rayagada, Bhawanipatna Khariar including C.D. works 303 KM 3. Improvement to Berhampur-Phulbani road S. H. 7 -do- 4. The Re-constructiori of old damaged W.D. Bridge -do- over river Muban at 50.50 Km “Mushal at 57.9 KM" Sila at 98.19 Km.* 5. Improvement to Cuttack-Chandabali-Bhadrak road -do- including bridge over Baitarani near Chandabali S.H. 9 and S.H. 9A. 150-49 Km 6. Improvement to Road from Bhadrak-Bonta-Anaan- dapur Thakumunda-Karanjia-Joshipur-Rairangapur- -do- Bahalda-Tiring Bihar border Road. 7. Improvement to road from Jaleswar-Batagaon-Nuguli- -do- Chandeswar .Road (Border of West Bengal) 8. Construction of bridge over river Mahanadi -do- near Sonepur on Sambalpur-Sonepur road S.H. 15. 9. Improvement to Rajnagar-Hansuna-Dangamal-Tel- •'do- chuna road 36.5 km. *“Kalinjar at 109ta Km”, “Aradei at l36tkKm.”, “Aradej at 147th K.M.” on Jaipur-Champua main read S.H. IT. 105 Written Answers SRAVANA 4; 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 106 1 2 3 10. Improvement to Palur-Prayagi-Krushnaprasad Puii These Schemes are pen_ Road via Chilida 55 Km. ding for want of fina , .. xr 1. j- tv jt lisation of the 8th plan 11. Construction of bridge over Mahanadi near Boudn on Boudh-Kiakata-Rairakhol Road. 12. Improvement to road from Dhenkanal on N.H. 12 to -do- Jaipur road and Panikoili on N.H. 5 via Deogaon- Maadar-Bhuban-Sukinda and Chora Chhack includ- ing construction of bridge over river Brahaman< Near Nilakanthapur. New addition to NHs 13. Gopalpur-Raipur Road via Khariar-Nawapara -do- 14. Panikoili to Rajamunda via Keonjhar-Barbil Koira -do- 15. Construction of H.L. Bridge over river Mahanadi near These Schemes sure Sonepur on Sambalpur-Sonepur Road S.H. 15 pending as actual augmentation of 16. Replacement of Old damaged Arch Bridge over river Central Road Fund Aradei at 147 Km of J.C. Main road S.H. 11 (147.25 has not yet taken to 148/0) place. 17. Replacement of Old damaged bridge over Musal at -do- 58 Km. J.C. Main Road S.H. 11. 18. Replacement of old damaged bridge at Mahana at 51. -do- Km. on J.C. Main Road S.H. 11 19. Replacement of Godahad bridge near 26/0 Km. on -do- Dorhampur-Phulbani Road S.H. 7 20. Replacement of old damaged bridge over “Aradei” -do- at 136 Km. on J.C. Main Road S.H. 11 21. Replacement of wooden bridge to R.C.C. bridge over -do- High level Canal at 1.70 km. of Rangi Haripttr Road M.D.R. 17. 22. Replacement of old damaged bridge over Luno near -do- Dalang at 13th km. of Patnailk in Delang Road MDR-79 23. Construction of H.L. Bridge over Daya at Tirumalagat -do- near village Beguniapada at 23rd km. of Pattanaikia Delang-Khurda road MDB-79. 24. Construction of submersible bridge over river Deo -do- near Jamghat on Thakumunda-Dangadiha-Podadiha- Manitri-Doisinga-Rupoa road M.D.R. 70 25. Replacement of Decking of Steel girder of bridge over -do- Laxmijore at 73/2 Km. of Bargarh-Bolangir-Salntala road S.H. 2 26. Construction of Missing Link of Dhenkanal-Kama- -do- khyanagar road M.D.R. 27. Construction of missing link road Vansadhara on -do-! Gunupur Bisham-Cuttack Road S.H. 4. *_l«TKSfVD/Ol 107 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 108 1 2 3 28^ Improvement to Khurda-Nayagarh-Phulbani Border These schemes are Road S.H.l. 0/0 to 32/0 Km. pending as actual aug- _„ ' . c tt « mentation of Central 29. Improvement to Cuttack Chandabali road S.H. 9 Road Fund has not 30. Improvement to Rajathagarh Narsinghpur road ^ taken P^ace- M.D.R. 18 -do 31. Construction of byepass for Pattamundai Town and -do- providing R.C.C. bridge over Pattamundai canal road S.B.I. on Cuttack Chandabali road S.H. 9A 32. Construction of H.L. Bridge over river ‘Ong’ on -do- Bolangir-Agalpur road via Chandan Bhati Bhasuja- C.V.R. 33. Improvement to Mitrapur Bainchua road including -do- bridge over ‘Ghagara’ and ‘Sono’ ODR. 34. Construction of Girder Bridge over river “Kuanria” -do- at 98 km over (Dahuk) at 69th km. and over “Kasumi” at 49th km. of Khurda Nayagarh-Daspala Phulbani Border road S.H. 1 35. Improvement to Khurda Nayagarh-Phulbani Border -do- road S.H.l. 36. Research Development and development of Database -do- 37. Training of Highway Engineers. -do- 38. Improvement to roads inside island 42 Mouza in -do- C'uttack Distt. and 10 other feeder roads (Rural roads) 39. ImfU’rtjgment to Sohela Saipali road in Sambalpur -do- Distt. (Rural road) 40. Improvement to Phulkana Kutrabeda Road in the -do- Distt. of Koraput (CVR) 41. Improvement to Raikia-Simanbadi road in Phulbani. -do- 42. Construction of 3 Nos. Bridges on Raikia-Siman- -do- badi road in Phulbani. 43. Improvement to Mangapur-Darlipali road in Sundar- -do- garh. 44. Construction of 2 Nos. of S.B. over Kurla Nallah -do- and Pakhiraj Nallah on Mangaspur-Darlipali Road in Sundargarh. 45. Improvement to Vejidihi Sarata road in Mayurbhanj -do- 46. Construction of S.B. over river Salandi at 2nd km. -do- on Vejidihi Sarata road in Mayurbhanj. 47. Improvement to Tikabali Chakapad Nediguda Badan- -do- gir road in Phulbani Distt. 48. Construction of bridge over Kutrasingh Nallah at 35 -do- km. and Landikasan Nallah at 40th km. on T.C. N.B. Road in liiulbaju D istt. 109 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 110 1 2 3 49. Improvement to Jagannath Prasad Sunamuhi road These schemes are in Ganjam Distt. pending as actual 50. Construction of bridge over Sanshi Nallah at 11th Cratra^Road Fund km. on Jagannath Prasad Sunamuhi road in Ganjam ^ not yet ta\r*n Distt- place. 51. Improvement to Dharamgarh Ampani road in Kala- "d°* handi Distt. 52. Construction of bridge over Dharmagarh Ampani road -do- in Kalahandi Distt. 53 ~ Improvement to Demadarptir-Chandua road. -do- 54. Improvement to R. Udayagiri Sambalpur Road in -do- in Ganjam district. 55. Construction of minor bridge over Mahendratanaya -do- river at 31/0 km. on R. Udayagiri Sambalpur road in Ganjam Distt. 56. Improvement to Suliapada-Kantisahi road in Mayur- -do- bhanj district. 57. Improvement to Raruan Chagarbeda Fogu road in -do- Mayurbhanj distt. 58. Improvement to Balinga to Kanika via Hemagiri road -do- in Sundargarh Distt. 59. Construction of bridge over Attaaguda Kantinga -do- Padar road in Kalahandi Distt. . 60. Survey & Investigation of Parallel service road on -do- Khurdha Byepass on NH-5 61. Survey & Investigation estimate of Parallel service -do- road on Baragarh Byepass on NH. 6 62. Survey & Investigation estimate of Parallel service -do- road on Baripada Byepass on NH. 5 63. Survey & Investigtion of Parallel service road on Bari- -do- pada Byepass on NH. 5 64. Survey & Investigation estimate for constn. of Parallel -do- service road to Bhadrak Byepass on NH. 5 65. Survey & Investigation estimate for constn. of Parallel -do- service road Balasore Byepass on NH. 5 66. Improvement to Rajngar Hasina Dangamal-Talchar -do- road (36.5 Km) including constn. of CD works. 67. Improvement to Cuttack-Chandabali road including -do- bridge over Baitarani near ChandabalL 68. Construction of H.L. Bridge over Mahaaadi near -do- Boudh. 69. Improvement to Narsinghpur-Hindol road MDB-J8 -do- 70. Coastal Highway from Gopalpur to Chandanwswar -do- & Digha. i l l Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 112 1 2 3 74. Widening to 4 lanes from KM 411/0 to 418/0 KM ("These schemes are of NH-5 pending as Demands ' ^ for Grants for the 72. Providing pre-cast RCC Box culvert (0.90 M x 0.90 M) | year 1991-92 are yet - at 267.544 KM of NH-5 in place of existing demaged j to be Passed by the HP culvert. . [Parliament 73. NH-Reconstruction of deck clab of culvert No. 64/2 -do- st 63.239 KM & culvert No. 69/1 at 68.418 KM alongwith diversion road. 74. Improvement to the pavement of NH-3 from KM 316/ -do- 745 to 319/0 KM & 335/400 to 354/700 KM. 75. Improvement to the pavement of NH-43 from KM -do- 377/2-4 to 392/0 KM & 437/175 to 437/475 KM. 76. Improvement to NH-5 from KM 22.80 to 24.60 & -do- 27.80 to 29.80 77. Construction of M.B. at KM 354/4-6 on NH-43 *do- to replace culvert No. 55. 78. Improvement to NH-43. such as providing protection -do- work against Valley slip at 467/513 & 459/183 KM. 79. Construction of culvert at 67/220 KM of NH-42 -do- including raising the road formation within 67/130 KM to 67/265 KM. 80. Reconstruction of 6 Nos. of weak and narrow culverts -do- Nos. 438/i, 445/3, 445/4, 446/3, 446/4 and 447/2 from KM 437/0 to 449/0 NH-43. 81. Stg. KM 245/0 L. 250/NH-5 -do- 82. Stg. 80/0 88/0 NH-5 -do- 83. W/Stg. to 2 lane KM 245/0 to 249/0 & 263/0 to 265/0 -do- NH-6 84. W/Stg. to 2 lane KM 322/0 to 346 NH-6 -do- 85. W/Stg. KM 381/0 to 401/0 NH-6 -do- 86. Riding surface KM 0/0-26/0 NH-5 -do- 87. Stg. KM 401/0 to 408/0 NH-6 -do- 88. WID to 4 lanes KM 411-418NH-5 -do- 89. Stg. KM 558. 6 to 563.6 NH-6 -do- 113 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written. Answers 114 1 90. Stg. KM 23-27 & 45 to 50 NH-6 These schemes are pending as Demands 91. W/Stg. KM 437/0 449/0 NH-43 for Grants for the 92. Missing link KM 46110 to 54580 NH-23 year 1991-92 are yet to be passed by the 93. Missing Link KM 29810 to 37500 NH-23 Parliament. 94. L. Grade Imp to KM 252-262 NH-23 -do- 95. Widening to 4-Lane KM 0.0 to 23.0 NH-5 This project is pend- ing for want of clea- rance from the ERC Financing of Ajaata and Ellora Pro- Irregularities in Tickets aid way BOk THE MINISTER OF STATE IN in Punjab Roadways THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): 686. SHRI KESHARI LAL: Will (a) and (b) Tourist Development Plan the Minister of SURFACE TRANS- of Ajanta and Ellora Region at a to- PORT be pleased to state: tal cost of Rs. 195 crores is one of the projects posed for assistance from (a) whether the flying squad and OECF of Japan in the 1991-92 loan Punjab Roadways, Nangal Depot package. unearthed irregularities in tickets and (c) A final decision is expected way bills during the last quarter of during the financial year 1991-92. 1990; (b) whether a police case was fil- ['Translation] ed in this regard; Devaluation of Rngtee (c) if not, the reasons therefor; 685. SHRI SATYNARAYAN JA- (d) the number of such irregulari- TIYA: Will the Minister of FIN- ties unearthed in Punjab Roadways ANCE be pleased to state: during the last one year; and (a) how many times the rupee was devalued in the past; and (e). the amount involved therein? , I5 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 M to m * m m S ljg THE MINISTER OF SURFACE JUSTICE AND c o m p a n y AF- TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH FAIRS be pleased to state: TYTLER): (a> to (c) Information is (a) The number of Judges in Sup- beipg collected and will be laid on reme Court at present; die Table of the House. (b) the number of Judges belonging toIV SC/ST. OBCs, minority communi- [Translation] ties and women Judges out of than: Construction of National Highways (d) if so, the details of such checks (b) the steps taken or proposed to made during 1990 and 1991 (upto 30 be taken by the Government to bring June): down the price of gold? (e) if not, the reasons therefor: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (f) whether the Government pro- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE pose to involve ticket-checking staff (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): to ensure punctual running of DTC (a) The increase and subsequent fall buses in Delhi; and in the price of gold is attributable to combination of factors such as, specu- (g) if so, the details thereof? lative nature of gold, marriage season demand and varied interpretation of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF recent adjustments in exchange rate. THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (b) Gold is net an essential com- TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH modity and Government does not TYTLER): (a) and (b) Yes, Sir, regulate its price. The timings of all the DTC routes have been specified. These timings are being regulated through Time [Translation] Keepers and the supervisory field staff of the DTC. Proposal to Declare Ajmer-Nawara- Chittorgarh-Indore road as National (c) and (d) Yes, Sir. The details Highway of surprise checks made to ensure punctual running of DTC buses are 691. SHRI G1RDHARI LAL as under: — BHARGAVA. Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Number o f trips Number o f trips checked during checked, from (a) whether the Government of 1990 January, 1991 Rajasthan has sent a proposal to the to June. 1991 Union Government to declare Ajmer- Nawara-Chittorgarh-Indore road as 5009923 2374915 National Highway; and (b) if so, the decision taken by the (e) Does not arise in view of reply Union Government thereon? to /£>) the total amount of deposits Rajasthan in December, 1990 arc made in the various bank branches, given in the attached Statement-III. district-wise; (c) The total loans sanctioned by (c) the amount of loan sanctionedthe banks during the last three years by these branches during the last three are given below years, year-wise; (Rs. in crores) (d) whether the amount of sanc- tioned loans is as per targets fixed; Year Amount and (e) if not, the steps taken by the December, 1988 — 2296 Government to raise the amount of December, 1989 — 2629 loans? December, 1990 — 2876 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) (d) and (e) Under the Annual District-wise and bank-wise number Credit Plans (ACP) prepared by lead of branches of public Sector Banks banks for the districts, the banks try functioning in Rajasthan at present to achieve the credit targets indicated are set out in the attached Statement therein. The data of credit alloca- 1 and II respectively. tion vis-a-vis achievements under ACPs in Rajasthan for the years (b) District-wise outstanding aggre- 1988-89, 1989-90 and 1990-91 are gate deposits of commercial banks in given below: — (Rs. in crores) January, 1988 to April, 1989 to April, 1990 to December, 1988 March, 1990 March, 1991* Target Achievement Target Achievement Target Achievement 493 541 611 529 663 438 ♦Provisional RBI has asked the banks to make efforts for. achieving the targets indi- cated in the ACPs. STATEMENT I District-wise number o f branches o f Public Sector Banks in Rajasthan Name o f the No. o f District branches o f Public Sector Banks 1 2 121 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 122 1 2 3. B a n sw a ra ...... 49 4. B a r m e r ...... 43 5. B haratpur...... 72 6. Bhilwara ...... 63 7. B i k a n e r ...... 84 8. Bundi...... 26 9. Chittaurgarh ...... 60 10. Churu . . . 49 11. Dholpur ...... 22 12. Dungarpur...... 36 13. Ganganagar ..... 142 14. Jaipur ...... 221 15. Jaisaliner ...... 20 16. Jalore ...... 24 17. Jhalwar ...... 35 18. Jhunjhunu ...... 35 19. Jodhpur ...... 108 20. K o ta ...... 91 21. Nagaur ...... 66 22. P a l i ...... 35 23. Sawai Madhopur ..... 70 24. S a i k a r ...... 44 25. Sirohi ...... 25 26. T o n k ...... 35 27. Udaipur ...... 102 STATEMENT D Bank-wise number o f branches o f Public Sector Banks in Rajasthan S.No. Name of the Bank No. o f branches 1 2 3 1. State Bank of I n d i a ...... 154 2. State Bank of H y d e r a b a d ...... 1 3. State Bank of I n d o r e ...... 3 4. State Bank of Bikaner & J a i p u r ...... 579 5. State Bank of Patiala ... 2 6. State Bank of T r a v a n c o r e ...... 1 123 Written Answers JULY 26,1991 Written Answers 124 1 2 3 7. State Bank of S a u r a s h tr a ...... 2 8. Central Bank of India ...... 91 9. Bank of I n d i a ...... 32 10. Punjab National Bank • ...... 188 11. B an k ofB arod a...... 290 12. UCO B a n k ...... 134 13. C a n a r a B a n k ...... 16 14. United Bank of I u d ia ...... 7 15. Dena B a n k ...... 11 16. Syndicate B a n k ...... 10 17. Union Bank of I n d i a ...... 39 18. Allahabad B a n k ...... 23 19. Indian Bank ...... 8 20. Bank of M aharashtra...... 6 21. Indian Overseas Bank ...... 9 22. Andhra B a n k ...... 3 ^3. Punjab & Sind B a n k ...... 19 24. New Bank of India ...... 69 25. Vijaya Bank...... 7 26. Corporation B a n k ...... 1 27. Oriental Bank of Commerce...... 52 STATEMENT HI District-wise outstanding aggregate deposits o f all scheduled commercial banks in Rajasthan in December, 1990 (Rs. in crores) Name of District Deposits 1 2~ 1. A j m e r ...... 315 2. A l w a r ...... 244 3. Bansw ara...... 82 4. B a n n e r ...... 59 5. Bfaaratpur...... 142 125 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 1 2 6. Bhilwara ...... 128 7. Bikaner ...... 191 8. Bundi ...... 50 9. Chittaurgarh .... 122 10. Churu . . . . 145 11. Dholpur ...... 38 12. Dungarpur...... 67 13. G a n g a n a g a r ...... 333 14. Jaipur ...... 1215 15. Jaisalmer ...... 26 16. Jalore ...... 39 17. J h a la w j r ...... 41 18. Jhunjhunu ...... 176 19. Jodhpur ...... 352 20. K o ta ...... 274 21. Nagaur ...... 145 22. P a l i ...... 99 23. Sawai Madhopur...... 116 24. Sikar ...... 169 25. Sirohi...... 69 26. Tonk ...... 51 27. U d a ip u r ...... 380 T o t a l ...... 5068 Powers of CCI&E (b) whether these powers to hear appeal have been delegated by the CCI&E to its subordinate officers; 693. DR. LAXMI NARAYAN and PANDEYA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: (c) if so, under what provision of the At these powers have been dele- (a) whether under the Import and gated to subordinate officers? Export, (Control) Act, 1947, the Chief Controller of Imports & Exports THE MINISTER OF STATE OF and the Additional Chief Controller THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE of Imports and Exports have been (SHRI "P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) invested with powers of a civil court Yes. Sir. Section 4-M of the Imports to hear appeals from persons aggriev- and Exports (Control) Act* 1947 gives ed by any decision passed under the powers to the Chief Controller of Im- Act; ports and Exports and to the Addi- 127 Written Answers JULY 26,1991 Written Answers 128 tional Chief Controller of Imports (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) to and Exports to hear appeals from (d) persons aggrieved by any decision or order made under the Act. Section 1. Shri Mahendra Singh Yadav, 4-0 of the Act provides that every IPS (UP:66) was appointed as authority making any adjudication or CMD of British India Corpo- hearing any appeal or exercising any ration in June, 1991 with the powers of revision under this Act approval of ACC. shall have certain powers of a civil court under the C.P.C. enumerated in 2. Shri A. K. Moitra’s appoint- sub-Section (1) and sub-Section (2) of ment as CMD of National Jute the Section provides that such autho- Manufacture Corporation Ltd. rity shall be deemed to be a civil court was extended beyond 28th for the purposes of Sections 345 and May, 1991 until his date of 346 of Cr.P.C. superannuation, i.e., 16-5-93, after consulting PESB and (b) The powers of the Chief Con- ACC. troller of Import and Exports/Addi- 3. Shri M. S. Pangtey, IAS (AM: tional Chief Controller of Imports and 66) was appointed as Manag- Exports to hear appeals against ing Director of North Eastern the decisions or orders passed under the Imports and Exports (Control) Handicrafts and Handloom Development Corporation with Act, 1947, have not been delegated. effect from 27-6-91, with the The Imports (Control) Order. 1955, however, contains a provision under approval of PESB and ACC. Clause 10(2) for notifying appellate 4. Shri R. Ramakrishna was authorities for certain actions taken appointed as CMD, NTC under the Imports (Control) Order. (Holding Co.) with effect from 19-4-1991 after obtaining the (c) Does not arise. approval of the ACC and in consultation with PESB. Apfrointment of Chief Executives 5. Shri S. Chakravarthy was ap- pointed as CMD, NTC 694. SHRI V. SREENIVASA (WBAB&O) Ltd. with effect PRASAD: Will the Minister of from 6-5-1991 after having TEXTILES be pleased to state: been recommended by PESB and approved by the ACC. (a) the details of appointments of Chief Executives in Public Sector Undertakings under the administra- Action against sick Industrial Units tive control of his Ministry during by BIFR 1991, till-date; 695. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (b) whether these appointments to state: were made after consulting both Public Enterprises Selection Board (a) whether attention of the Gov- and Appointments Committee of the ernment has been drawn to the news Cabinet: item captioned “Board for Industrial and Financial Reconstruction (BIFR) (c) if so, the facts thereof; and will invoke penal provisions” which appeared in the Times of India dated (d) if not, tiie reasons therefor? June 29, 1991; (b) if so, the particulars of sick in- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF dustrial units in respect of which, THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES banks and financial institutions have 129 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 failed to discharge their duties of [Translation] rehabilitation as advised by the Board for Industrial and Financial Rate of Inflation Reconstruction; 696. DR. LAXMI NARAYAN (c) the names of such banks and PANDEYA: Will the Minister of financial institutions and the penal FINANCE be pleased to state: action taken or proposed by the Government/BIFR against them; and (a) the percentage increase in the rate of inflation in May, 1991 in com- parison to its position prevailing in (d) if no penal action is proposed March, 1990; and to be taken, the reasons therefor? (b) the reasons for this increase? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): No such news-item has appeared in (a) The annual rate of inflation in the Delhi edition of ‘The Times of terms of the wholesale Price Index India’ dated June 29, 1991. How- (Base: 1981-82= 100), on the basis ever, such a news item has appeared of monthly average, increased by in certain other newspapers, including 2.4 percentage points from 8.6 per the Delhi edition of ‘Financial Ex- cent in March, 1990 to 11.0 per cent press’ of the same date. in May, 1991. (b) The accelerated rise in prices (b) While the Board for Industrial was the result of the following fac- and Financial Reconstruction (BIFR) tors: (i) persistent and large fiscal had sanctioned revival schemes in imbalances resulting in a higher in- respect of New Central Jute Mills, crease in money supply, liquidity Calcutta and Easwaran & Sons En- overhang and thus effective demand; gineers Ltd., Madras on 20-9-1990 (ii) supply and demand imbalances in and 24-1-1989 respectively, the im- sensitive commodities mainly due to plementation of the schemes were de- shortfall in domestic production and layed due to several reasons resulting inability of the Government to import in the non-release of funds by the desired quantities because of the cons- State Bank of India (SBI) and the traints on balance of payments; (iii) Industrial Finance Corporation of substantial increase in procurement India (IFCI) in the former case, and prices/support prices of agricultural by Vysya Bank and Lakshmi Vilas commodities; (iv) imposition of the Bank, in the latter case. Gulf surcharge at the rate of 25 per cent on domestic prices of petroleum (c) and (d) BIFR has reported products since the middle of October, that it threatened penal action under 1990 and the resultant increase in Section 33 of the Sick Industrial transportation cost; (v) the disturbed Companies (Special Provisions) Act, law and order situation leading to 1985 against SBI, IFCI, Vysya Bank disruption of transport and localised and Lakshmi Vilas Bank, for not re- shortages; and (vi) the consequent in- leasing the need-based funds. BIFR flationary expectations. has also reported that while SBI and IFCI have reported compliance, the [English] dead-line prescribed by BIFR for Cases Pending wittt Grievance Com- Vysya Bank Ltd. and Lakshmi Vilas mittees and Appellate Authorities Bank, is not yet over. Penal action can be initiated by BIFR only after 697. DR. LAXMI NARAYAN giving due notice of the violation of PANDEYA: Will the Minister of the schemes sanctioned by it. COMMERCE be pleased to state the 131 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 132 number of cases pending with Grie- of Income-tax and Super Tax amoun- vance Committees and Appellate ting to rupees one crore and above; authorities set up under the Import & Export (Control) Act 1947 as on (b) the amounts due from them 1-4-1991 for over 2 months, 3 and since when; and months, 4 months and above, separa- tely? (c) the measures taken/proposed by the Government to recover the amounts so far? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Information in respect of the Minis- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN try of Commerce and Headquarters THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE office of the Chief Controller of Im- (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): ports & Exports is as under: — (a) and (b) As on 31-3-1991, there were 141 individuals who had defaul- (i) No. of cases pending with Grie- ted in payment of Income-tax and vance Committees as on 1-4-1991 Super Tax amounting to rupees one crore and above. A list of such in- Over 2 months : 2 dividuals and the amounts due from Over 3 months : 1 them as on 31-3-1991, is enclosed Over 4 months as Statement. These demands relate and above : 6 to various assessment years and have been raised at different points of time as and when the relevant assessments (ii) No. of cases pending with Appel- etc. were finalised. late authorities as on 1-4-1991 Over 2 months : 52 (c) Appropriate actions to recover Over 3 months : 2 the taxes are taken both as per law and also administratively. Legal Over 4 months actions include levy of penalty for and above 343 non-payment, issue of garnishee or- ders to attach bank accounts, debts Information in respect of the Re- etc., drawing up of tax recovery state- gional Offices of the Imports and ments by Tax Recovery Officers ena- Exports Trade Control Organisation bling them to effect recovery by atta- is being collected and will be placed chment/sale of assets, appointment before the House in due course. of receiver for managing defaulter’s property, arrest of defaulters etc. Payment of Income Tax by Indivi- Administratively, Action Plan tar- duals gets have been fixed for reduction of 698. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will outstanding demands and the pro- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased gress of recovery is monitored at various levels. Since a large part of to state: the demand is disputed in Appeals (aX the particulars of the individ- etc; steps are also taken for expedi- have defaulted in payment tious disposal of appeals. 133 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 134 STATEMENT List referred to in answer to parts (a) & (b) o f Lok Sabha unstarred question No. 698 for 26-7-1991 S. Name o f the Assessee Amount No. due as on 31-3-1991 _ _ 3 Shri/Smt. /Kumari (Rs. in lakhs) 1. Abdulla Ghani ...... 244.00 2. Ahmad Yassin ...... 103.89 3. Anil Kumar Parolia ...... 257.37 4. (Late) A.R. C h a d h a ...... 101.29 5. Ambalal Valdas P a t e l ...... 140.00 6. Alibhoy Mohammed ...... 143.55 7. A V ishw anath...... 310.76 8. Anil Kumar Aggarwal ...... 124.56 9. Anil Kumar Didwania...... 458.75 10. Anupam Kumar Didwania...... 198.49 11. A. Thangam ...... 147.61 12. A. Balasubramaniam ...... 155.77 13. B.M. C h h e d a ...... 114.00 14. Bharat Lai B. J a i n ...... 257.26 15. Bhupinder Singh (Prop, of M/s. Gogi Enterprises) . . . 111.38 16. B.K. P a t e l ...... 361.35 17. B.M. K a n o d ia ...... 135.81 18. B.P. G o e n k a ...... 105.38 19. Bhupat Rai K. S h e t h ...... 121.86 20. B.T. Shankar H e g d e ...... 138.14 21. Bhagwandas Agarwal...... 790.21 22. Bipin Kamji J a i n ...... 171.07 23. C.V. Jain (Late)...... 138.22 24. C.S. G o e n k a ...... 102.24 25. C.C. A l b e r t ...... 206.88 26. C.A. Taktawala ...... 154.98 27. Chandra Nath B a n ik ...... 286.08 135 Written Answers JULY 26,1991 Written Answers 136 1 2 3 Shri/Smt./Kumari (Rs. in lakhs) 208.01 29. D.M. Pawar ...... 338.05 183.96 31. D.K. A g a r w a l...... 110.00 32. Dilip Kumar Hansraj (Prop, of Barai old India) 302.02 33. D.N. D o s a n i ...... 111.00 34. D.P. Mansingka ...... 114.48 35. Damji Devji H a r i ...... 674.44 36. Deendayal Didwania ..... 181.28 37. E.K. C handrasenan...... 126.00 38. Girdhar Gopal S h a r m a ...... 159.70 39. G.D. A g a r w a l...... 290.90 40. G. Jayaram an...... 136.78 41. G. Venkateshwaram ...... 200.40 42. G. Krishnaswamy Thevar ..... 106.75 43. Haridas M u n d r a ...... 1064.70 44. Hari Ram Agarwalla...... 164.60 45. H.R. T r i v e d i ...... 244.73 46. Haji Ismail Subhania ...... 211.73 47. Harish Popat Lai Prajapati ..... 131.00 48. H.S. R a o ...... 140.33 49. Indermal Manaji...... 219.66 50. Dr. J. Dharam T e j a ...... 1018.98 51. John Thomas ...... 147.34 52. Jyotindra Singh (of Gondal). . . . . 211.98 53. Jivabhai A. Patel Ind...... 169.00 54. J.B. R u p a n i ...... 389.02 55. J. Devarajula ...... 108.00 56. Kamini Sondhi (L/R Late M.L. Sondhi) 295.00 57. Kailash Chandra B. Verma .... 208.11 58. Kanti Lai M. M a l i ...... 122.65 , 59. Kusum Chand Keshrichand Zavei i 405.52 60. K. Satish Chandra H e d g e ...... 222.58 137 Written Answers SRAVANA--4V -fW3 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 , - - 3 Shri/Smt./Kumari (its. in lakhs) 61. K.S. Dattatreya...... 288.46 62. K. Venkatesh Dutt ...... 276.43 63. K. Prasanaa Kumar Reddy...... 104.21 64. K. S u b r a m a n ia m ...... 190.83 65. K. Rajagopalan...... 153.71 66. L. Kunju K u n j u ...... 103.91 67. Lajpat Rai C. A g a r w a l ...... 166.09 68. Lokumal C. Virmani ...... 769.84 69. Laxmi Narayan Khemka . . . . 392.6$ 70. Laxmi Das P r e m j i ...... 139.95 71. Liladhar N. Parekh . . . . . 212.81 72. Mahabir Prasad R. Kandei (Late)...... 102.64 73. Mohan Thakur ...... 157.61 74. Mayurdhwaj Singh Ji ( L a t e ) ...... 185.72 75. Mohmed Akhtar Hussain alias Kadar Ahmed Bhatti . 108.00 76. Mansukh M. J a g d e ...... 102.78 77. M.L. Gupta (Prop. Vikash Associated) . . . 432.98 78. Mopuru Sesha Reddy . . 114.13 79. M. Kedandarani Reddy 247.04 80. M. Subbarami R e d d y ...... 143.99 81. M. Sudha Kara Reddy 130.92 82. Manoj Kumar D id w a n ia ...... 112.08 •83. M.R. P u r u s h o t h a m a n ...... 120.20 84. N.K. T a n n a ...... 182.00 85. N.D. A r o r a ...... 131. 63 86. Nand Kishore M a l p a n i ...... 121.00 87. Narender Anand. . . . 186.70^ 88. Narayan Bhai I Patel ...... 295.00 89. N.K. P&rikh ‘ . ' 678.72 90.. N.K. Mahnot . . . .* . . . .221.17 91. O.P. Arora...... 218.flft 52."O.P. Navani ...... : . ' 4i6/3fr 10—15 LSS/ND/91 139 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 146 1 2 3 Shri/Smt./Kumari (Rs. in lakhs) 93. Padmavati D. Ghai ...... 179 20 94. P.C. G u p t a ...... 123.05 95. Puspa Devi T a k ...... 526.06 96. Priti Pal S in g h ...... 213.64 97. Pawan Kumar Jain .... 224.12 98. Popatlal Kanji Bhai Ohelani . . . . 160.53 99. Prakash M eh ra...... 179.81 100. P.I. Fernandez . . 139.14 101. Pawan Kumar Didwania 637.67 102. P. Govindaswamy .... 113.44 103. P.K. Balamurugesh .... 116.51 104. Ram Kumar Jalan .... 527.55 105. Ramnath Goenka .... 103.38 106. R. Bharathan . . . . . 151.12 107. Ramesh S u r i ...... 109.75 108. R.P. Agarwal ..... 353.64 109. Ram Nath Bajoria ...... 116 53 110. Raj C h o p r a ...... 615.11 111. Rampurshottam G. Aggarwal . . . . 152.73 112. Rajendra Nana Lai Kataria . . . 386.38 113. R.K. Parikh ..... 712.44 114. R. R a m a d e v i...... 118.44 115. Ratanlal Didwania ...... 363.47 If6. R. Jayapradha...... 159.13 117. Ramgopal Didwania ...... 131.08 118. R.L. Dhanapalan .... 235.28 119. (Late) Sayaji Rao Gaikwad 231.31 120. S-M. Shah...... 104.32 121. Shanti Lai M. Kapadia 246.22 122. Surendra Kumar Garg 596.00 123. Sudhir M. Zaveri ...... 240.00 124. S.A. K a r e e n ...... 243.48 125. S.S. Ahluwalia . 140.80 141 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKAy Written Answers 142 1 ' 2 ' 3 ■ Shri/Smt./Kumari (Rs. in lakhs) 126. Sukarbhai Naranbhai Bakhia . 3193.09 127. S. Barkatulah .... . 233.49 128. Shushil K. Jalan . • • . 186.18 129. Shanti Lai M. Sopuriwala . • * 195.89 130. S. S e w a k ...... 208.27 131. S. Suadaram Pillai 101.94 132. T.M. Abdul Ghafoor . • 138.44 133. T. Balasankara Reddy 172.51 134. Uma Kanth Rath 101.00 135. Vijay Kumar M. Shah . . . 162.00 136. Vishwanath G. Sharma • 123.29 137. Vij C. Shroff . . . . . 186.27 138. Vasumal Bhagwan Dass . 156.99 139. Vinod Kumar Didwania . 3267.46 140. W.N. Chadha . . . . 1056.00 141. Younus Kunjee .... 214.34 Delhi Exporter’s Association’s Com- (b) While some of the complaints plaints with RBI are of general nature, a few of them relate to the levy of charges by banks 699. SHRI RAM NA1K: Will ‘ for handling foreign exchange trans* the MINISTER OF FINANCE be actions, and delays in the comple- pleased to state: tion of various transactions. (a) whether the Delhi Exporters’ (c) The matter has been looked Association has taken up with the into by RBI in consultation with the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) certain Foreign Exchange Dealers Associa- complaints by exporters in the matter tion of India (FEDAI). As regards of foreign exchange transactions by bank charges, RBI has reported that banks; these have been laid down by FEDAI (b) if so, the details thereof; and and their considered view is that the charges for handling foreign exchange (c) the measures taken or proposed transactions in India are quite econo- to be taken by the Government /RBI mical as compared to charges levied to remove these complaints? by banks in foreign countries. Fur- ther, in order to help the Exporters, FEDAI has brought out a booklet THE MINISTER OF STATE IN titled ‘Rules of Foreign Exchange THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Dealers Association of India* (effec- (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) tive 1st June, 1991) which covers, The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has mter-alia, the time schedules for com- reported that it has received certain pletion of various types of foreign como1ain*s from the Delhi Exporter’s exchange transactions and charges Association relating to bank charges, payable by the exporters. Since delays etc., in the matter of foreign these Rules have now been made exchange transactions by banks. public, it is expected that exporters ft 143 -Written Answers JULY 26, m i Written Answers 144 importers will be able to sort out during the preceding three years their problems in respect of the hand- also. ling of foreign exchange transactions by banks. The Delhi Exporters' (c) if so, the steps taken dr propos- Association has been suitably advised ed to be taken to improve the posi- by RBI in the matter. tion; and Bafance of Payments Position (d) the immediate impact of the ‘devaluation of rupee thereon? 700. SHRI BHAGEY GOBAR- DHAN: Will the Minister of FIN- THE MINISTER OF- STATE IN ANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (a) the month-wise balance of pay- (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): ments position since January, 1990, (a) The balance of payments position vis-a-vis the availability of foreign mainly gets reflected in the level of exchange reserves in each month; foreign exchange reserves. The foreign exchange reserves position (b) whether the balance of pay- (excluding gold and SDR) since Janu- ments position had been unfavourable ary 1990 is as follows: (Rs. Crores) 1990 1991 January 4871.01 4719.27 February . 5559.97 4445.87 March 5787.17 4388.10 April 5092.87 2527.06 May 5403.55 2677.40 June 5356.17 2382.69 July 5050.12 August 5479.82 September 4511.64 October 3820.45 November 3142.19 December 2152.39 . (b) Yes, Sir, the balance of pay- mg facilities including the use ments situation has been under severe of IMF facilities. pressure for the last five yean. (ii) in the medium term, reduce the (c) To improve the balance of pay- trade gap through more vigo- ments position the Government pro- rous export promotion mea- poses to: sures, augment net invisible receipts through increased re- (i) in the short run, continue the ceipts from services including import compression measures, tourism receipts; and increase accelerate the utilisation of al- capital flows consistent with ready committed external aid financial prudence and their *nd explore additional financ- productive use. Consistent with 145 Written ArtSMrs • SRAVANA 4,'. 1913 (SAKA) . W rittm Answers 146 our overall economic policies, . • (c) the - number of persons prose- measures to attract foreign di- cuted for rash and negligent driving rect investment as well aa to during the above period, vehicle, cate- encourage larger capital gory-wise; inflows from non-resident In- dians are alto proposed to be (d) the action taken against the err- taken. ing persons; (d) It is expected that, alongwith a number of policy measures, the ad- (e) the number of vehicles, out of justment in exchange rate would help the- aboye, involved in similar offence to stabilise the balance of payments previously; situation in the short terms and im- prove the balance of trade situation (f) the number of private buses in the medium term. operating under D.T.C. and those ply- ing under S.T.A. permits in Delhi Road Mishaps Id Delhi found engaging only one driver for the whole day instead of two drivers; 701, SHRI MADAN LAL KHU- and RANA: Will the Minister of SUR- FACE TRANSPORT be pleased to (g) the steps taken to ensure the state: employment of two drivers and not (a) the number of persons died and taking work from one driver for more injured - in road mishaps in Delhi than eight hours a day? during 1990 and upto 31, May, 1991 and how the same compares with the preceding three years; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) the measures taken to bring THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE down the rate of deaths and injuries TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH on the roads and the effect thereof; TYTLER): (a) Details given below: Year Persons _ Persons killed injured 1987 . 1271 6388 1988 . 1474 6830 1989 . 1581 7378; 1990 . 1670 . 7883" 1991 (Upto 51st May) 747 . 3412 (b) The measures taken are: (4) School, children are regularly imparted necessary training/ (1) Strict and rigid enforcement of education in the school about traffic rules and regulations, the rules of the road and relate (2) Regular special drive against ed safety aspects by the Road rash and negligent driving Safety Cell of Delhi Traffic without Driving License, drun- Police. ken driving, defective head lights, pverspeeding, over-load- (5) Introduction of Blinkers /sig- ing etc.' nals at accident prond areas. (3) Regular prosecution \ of viola- (6)'Prosecution through Rada? tion through issue of notices. Guna. M7 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers |48 (7) More police presence in acci- Av a result of above measures, dent prone areas. ' The Delhi Traffic Police have been able to arrest the rising number of (8) Special morning drives and accidents, with a slight decrease. In nuht mobile patrolling. ihe nuuibei of fatal accidents. (9) Extensive use of Doordarshan/ AIR/Press for giving wide pu- (c) Details are given in the attached blicity on Road Safety. statement. (10) Painting of Bus Boxes, yellow Boxes. (d) In cases of prosecution under the MV Act, either the offences are (.11) Special Night Checking in compounded at the spot or the chal- Highways. lans are sent to Court. As regards accidents in which cases are register- (12) Special drive against buses. ed, prosecution is ordered under the MTUs, TSRs, Taxies etc. relevant provisions of the Indian (13) Painting Competitions and Penal Code. other Road Safety activities are being organised by Road Sa- (e) No such records are available. fety Cell to inculcate the sense of Road Safety among various (0 No such case has come to the road users and children. notice of Government. (14) Introduction of Area Traffic Control system of computeris- (g) Does not arise in view of ans- ed signal etc. wer to (f) above. STATEMENT Number o f Persons prosecuted for rash arid negligent driving—Category-wise Vehicle-wise 1-1-87 to 1-1-88 to 1-1-89 to 1-1-90 to 1-1-91 to 31-12-87 31-12-88 31-12-89 31-12-90 31-5-91 HTV/MMV . 1311 1543 3094 4430 5521 LCV • 163 245 477 947 1219 BiUS • 299 462 1052 1156 1087 Pvt, Bus, U/DTC. • 154 261 562 452 360 PTC . . • 147 121 177 154 306 Matador . . . 97 137 179 133 81 Taxi • 83 82 71 71 77 TSR . _ . • 364 389 654 645 595 V Scooter/Motorcycle # 707 793 1338 962 959 Car, Jeep . > • 473 69* 78$ 829 593 149 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 EKhBfeVihelfRvee an erosion in the international compe- titiveness of the eoonomy. It was >2. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISH- equally necessary to stem &e desta* NAN: bi’ising market expectations which were generated by perceptions about SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: the exchange value of the rupee. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNI- (c) No, Sir. HOTRI: (d) Does not arise. Will the Minister of FINANCE be (e) The Government and Reserve pleased to state: Bankr of India require that all transac- (a) whether the rupee has been de- tions are operated at official rates only valued and its exchange value read- and hence identifying the difference justed against the foreign currencies: between official and unofficial ex- change value of the rupee does not (b) if so. the reasons therefor; arise. (c) whether the International Mone- (0 The exchange value of the rupee tary Fund had insisted upon such a in respect of major currencies as on devaluation; 5th July, 1991 is as follows: — (Rs. per unit of foreign currency) (d) if so. the details thereof; US Dollar 25.96 .(e) whether there is any difference between the official and unofficial ex- Pound Sterling 41.72 change value of the rupee as against Deutsche Mark 14.18 major currencies; and Japanese Yen 0.186 (f) if so, the value of the rupee in the official and unofficial rates of ex- change as on July 5, 1991? laipact of Dewhudw « i R a p e c « Itthsiries Dependent eat Imports THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 703. SHRI V. SREENIVASA THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE PRASAD: (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): SHRI M. V, CHANDRA- MINISTER OF STATE OF (e) Our ttoops are fully equipped THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE and trained to meet all contingencies, (SHRI • P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) to ensure our territorial integrity. an«j.{b); l i e downward adjustment inthe -value of rupee effected by the Reward to Moment of beoaM u Resecve Bank of India on 1st and Evaders 3rd July, 1991 is expected to restrain imports, improve India’s export earn- 705. SHRI KARIA MUNDA: ings, and encourage capital flows by Will the Minister of FINANCE be restoring confidence in the Rupee. pleased to state: r ^e)-The Government have - recently ' (a) whether the informants of In- introduced for-reaching reforms in the come-tax evaders in Delhi during export-import policy aimed at reduc- 1990 and 1991 have been rewarded; ing ^controls through licensing, streng- thening export incentives and linking (l>) if not, the reasons therefor; and import- capability in a wide range of (c) the time by which the cash re- imports to export earnings. ward;-will be given to the informants of Income-tax evaders? Firing fe Karan Sab-Sector THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE 704. SHRI V. SREENIVASA (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): PRASAD: (a) Yes, Sir. Reward including in- SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- terim reward was paid to 17 and 24 SHEKARA MURTHY: informants respectively during the financial years ending on 31st March, Will the Minister of DEFENCE be 1990 and 1991 in Delhi. pleased to state: : (b) Does not arise. (a) whether the Pakistani troops (c) Undej.the guidelines for reward resorted to heavy firing on Indian to informants, an informant can be posits in the Karan sub-sector of Kup- paid final reward only after entire tax wara in J&K on June 29 and July 1, .directly, attributable to information 1 4 9 1 '; - V. 7 'furnished by him,.as determined in the assessments, has been realised ; (b). if .so, the number of jawans after all the appeals relating to the Idlied due to firing by Pakistani troons: assessments have been disposed of and the assessments have become (c) whether the Indian forces re- final. Hence the time taken for the turned the fire; grant of final reward will vary from case to case. \d) the details of the incident; and [Translation] (e) the steps taken by the Govern- ment to face such challenges? Repair of- Bridge on National High- way No. ZS at Shlvpuri BbognJpor THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE 706. Stm t SANTOSH KtJMAR (SHRI SHARAD, PAWAR): (a) GANGWAR: . Will the Minister of . ■ " " .... S0RFAC& Yi^NSPORT be pleased to state:. (b) There were no casualties oh tbe Indian side. r’yfft)?: w h eth er* bridge situated at 'Shivpuri - Bhogniour on -the National •(cfcand (<$) Yes, Sir. Oar troops .H ighly'Ifo; '25 was Mown: off ' in effectively returned: the firei O ctober 11990: 153 Written Afiswers SRAVANA 4, Hl3 (SAKA) . Written Answers 154 (b) if so, the extent of damage (b) the number of cases pending for caused to the bridge; more than three years, Tribunal-wise: and (c) the total expenditure likely to be incurred on the repairs to this (c) the reasons for the delays in bridge; and . disposal of the cases and the steps proposed to be taken for early dis- (d) the time by which the repairs posal of the pending cases? are likely to be completed? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (SHRI RAMESHW AR THAKUR): TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH (a) Cases pending before Customs TYTLER): (a) Yes, Sir. Ex.cise & Gold (Control) AppeIIat~ Tnbunal (CEGAT) and Income-Tax (b) The central span of the arch Appellate Tribunal (ITAT) as on bridge was damaged and piers crack- 1-4-91 are 39,957 and 1,98,915 res- 00. fo pectively. (c) and (d) The State Government have incurred Rs. l.00 lakh to carry (b) Cases pending for more than out temporary repairs of the bridge. three years as on 1-4-91 are as un- after which it was opened to traffic der:- in November, 1990. ~CEGAT: 16,412 !TAT : 29,943 Setting up of Major Port at Hajira Cc) Frequent requests by parties for 707. SHRI KASIDRAM RANA: adjournment, complex issues which Will the Minister of SURF ACE involve time consuming hearing, in- TRANSPORT be pleased to state: creased institution of cases and unfilled vacancies of Members in ITAT espe- (a) whether the experts had recom- cially those of Accountant Members, mended setting up of a major port at are amongst the main reasons for de- Hajira (Surat-Gujarat) several years lay in disposal of cases. ago; Amongst the steps taken for early (b) if so, the steps taken by the disposal of cases are bunching of cases Government for setting up of this involving similar issues, listing of Port: and cases disposable on the basis of Cc) the reasons for delay in setting earlier decisions of the Tribunal and up of the Port? Supreme Court and creation of addi- tional benches for CEGAT. Steps taken in respect of IT AT include THE MINISTER OF ST ATE OF selection of new Members for appo- THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE intment,separation of cases which TRANSPORT (SHRI J AGDISH can be disposed of by benches con- TYTLER): (a) No, Sir. sisting of two. Judicial Members only. (b) and (c) Does not arise. identification of. cases covered by ear- lier judgements and separation at [English] appeals involving. common issues for Cases Pending Before Central Excise. hearing in bunches and Members un- Customs and Income-Tax Tribnnals . dertaking tours to stations where pen- dencv is more or regular benches are 708. SHRI MADAN LAL KHU- not functioning ... RANA: Will the Minister of FIN- Default in Repayment of Loans ANCE be pleased to state: 709. 'SHRI MADAN LAL KHU- (a) the number -of . cases pending RANA: Will the Minister of . FIN: before .the. Central Excise, . Customs ANCE be pleased' to state: .' _.. and c' Income-Tax . Tribunals as on. (a) the number of industrialists/ April :L· 199·1;· entrepreneurs /businessmerntraders .etc. IJ-15 LSS/ND/91 155 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 WrUtm Amwers 155 who have defaulted in the repayment (c> the stepstakcnto ensure that of loans/overdrafts taien from die J uroup b gazetted Government banks and the financial institutions ^ r a n t diso jje tea' inune- during the last three years; diately after putting e yean of service in mat grade? (b) the steps taken to recover the money from them; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) the number of such persons/ THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE linns which were blacklisted; how (SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE): many of them have been removed (a) and (b) The matter is still under from that list, the reasons therefor and consideration of the Government. the present position regarding realisa- tion of the money from them? (c) In all Ministries/Departments promotions are vacancy based except in certain Departments where flexible THE MINISTER OF STATE IN complementing scheme has been in- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE troduced for certain categories. There (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) and (c) is no proposal under consideration of The Reserve Bank of India has repor- the Government to ensure time bound ted that it does not maintain data promotion in five years in case of regarding industrialists/entrepreneurs/ those Group ‘B’ gazetted Government businessmen/traders etc., who have Servants who are not covered by fle- failed to repay loans and overdrafts xible complementing scheme. taken from banks and other financial institutions, or on action (including blacklisting) against them. Black Money 711. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANI- (b) Whenever there have been de- GRAHI: faults in respect of the repayment of loans or the payment of interest, the SHRI RAM VILAS'PASWAN: banks resort to measures like the SHRI HARIN PATHAK: stoppage of further drawals or other operations on the accounts, notices to Will the Minister of FINANCE be guarantors, filing of suits etc., to re- pleased to state: cover their monies. In respect of financial institutions, IDBI has re- (a) the estimated black money in ported that appropriate follow-up the country; and measures are initiated for recoverv. (b) the steps proposed to be taken which include the vigorous pursuing by the Government to control black with the borrowing companies of the money which has reached colossal early clearance of overdues and, in dimensions? cases of recalcitrant hevfowers. the recall and filing of suits for recovery. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Promotion of Groan and *D* (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): Government Servants (a) There is no official estimate of the amount of black money in circu- 710. SHRI MADAN LAL KHU- lation in the country. The National RANA: Will the Minister of FIN- Institute of Public Finance and Policy ANCE be pleased to refer to the re- in their report titled ‘Aspects of the ply given to U" starred Question NO. Black Economy in India* have esti- 9371 on May 18, 1990 and state: mated the black money generated in (a) whether the matter relating to the year 1983-84 between Rs. 31.584 the promotion of Group *C and ‘D’ to Rs. 36,786 crores. The authors Government Servants has since been have, however, admitted that their es- examined: timate is based on numerous assump- tions and approximations, each of (b) if 90, the details thereof; and which can he challenged. No estimate ,57 W ritm Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (Sa KA) Written Answers 158 of the quantum of black money in THE MINISTER. OF SYfvTP circulation m the w attj has been attempted thereafter, OF COmK (SHRI P CHIDAMBARAM): The (b) Evolving o! steps to control thedownward adjustment in the value oi generation, growth and use of black Rupee effected by Reserve Bank ot money is a continuous exercise. The India on 1st and 3rd July 1991, is Government takes necessary legisla- expected to improve India’s overall tive and administrative steps from export earnings and restrain imports time to time for this purpose. Chan- by making them dearer, in respect of all countries including Japan, ges in economic policies such as les- United Kingdom, U.S.A., USS.R., ser bureaucratic controls and delicen- Belgium and the Germany. sing have been effected which help in reduction of black money generation. Cargo Traffic Handled by Major Other measures taken are streamlining Ports of direct taxes structure and streng- thening of the enforcement machinery 713. SHRI BHAGEY GOBAR- to check tax evasion and improve tax DHAN: Will the Minister of SUR- compliance. FACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Some of the measures taken by the Income-tax Department to check tax (a) the cargo traffic handled by the evasion and curb black money tran- major ports during April-June, 1991. sactions are as under:— with month-wise target and actuals in respect of each major port; (i) Systematic survey operations; (b) the reasons for shortfall or bet- (ii) Search and survey operations ter performance as the case may be in appropriate cases; with reference to the target; and (iii) Verification of information by (c) the names of the major ports Central Information Branches which have been performing consis- in a planned manner; tently? (iv) In*depth investigation in a se- lected number of cases; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (v) Pre-emptive purchase of immo- TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH vable property by the Central TYTLER): (a) A statement is atta- Government under the provi- ched. sions of Chapter XXC of the Income-tax Act, 1961 in cer- (b) During April-June, 1991, Para- tain notified cities. * dip, Visakhapatnam, Madras, Tuti- corin, Mormugao and Jawaharlal Persons found to b e , indulging in Nehru . Port handled cargo in tax evasion or holding b'ack money excess of the target mainly due to are being dealt with severely by im- better materialisation of cargo. In case posing penalties and launching prose- of Calcutta, Cochin, New Mangalore, cution proceedings against them. Bombay and Kandla the actual car- go handled was less than the target mainly due to less materialisation of Impact of Devaluation of Rupee on POL, coal, fertilizers and general Tttide cargo. However, all major ports com- bined handled cargo in excess of the 712. SHRI BHAGEY GOBAR- target (+2%). DHAN: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state the im- (c) Taking into account the vari- mediate impact of the rupee devalua- ous factors influencing the flow of tra- tion on the value of exports to and ffic through ports and the total traffic imports from Japan, United Kingdom* handled at ports during oast few U S A., U.S.S.R., Belgium and the years, all the major ports have been United Germany? performing consistently. 159' Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers ISA v-' CN f-H « i •S ■fen c o c o con-r-'-ooOsooioosIt^ O 0 \«- 4 0 o a s o o o ^ t ^ 0 | 0 Ov r-. t£ vo m ^ooot^^Ooir* Tt- -M N— t> *n i r** O s I co k : ‘T) to*) t oo *-< on c - on © r< £ ^ en ^3 3 r-»-*oo©oococNt- H C .Q> . o Z •nvoooo^voooo^t’ ooco Os W I h'^ooTj, f^ma\oor>» 00 ■^■»n»r>r*-r^'Or,^' 0 ’—'fOvo ON S I CN • s: I •e'st i cn On co >o <—' tI* fT' »—» VO —4 O co ON O *0 *-« Os CN © oo oo »n 3 -I ■*«*§ co «n on co ^ xf »o H (S (S Tt t> Os *-« *-< CN CN CN co § £ Os • § £ ft* c *S CNc0c0Tj-m*-*0N0N<£c00s ^3 £ • T-*O O CS CSOOTt-CS^tOOxrvO* — *3 T-H co«—I *oi—< h f o v o h*-« » rt?o^|inCN »—• ! (N i f ■t* 2 a 5 ...... I *Es 0o • *••••••« jm t; f 1 I •*Nctf JN fg5 s e " -g ! «3 •« • • * •»-» • • us S 4c-* 13frA ^ —<< tlA DO g - C S «f £ S3l'3SSS'i«g3og I S- f S 'g O I I I « 5 Unused World Bank Assistance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE 714. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): SHEKARA MURTHY: (a) and (b) Yes. At the end of June SHRI SREENIVASA PRA- 1991 the total undisbursed balance SAD: under World Bank line of assistance was 12.159 billion US dollars. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state; (c) and (e) The undisbursed bal- ance appears large in aggregate terms (a) whether more than 12 billion but is dependent on the time profile dollars made available to the country of various projects. Apart from ges- by the World Bank stand unused; tation period of externally aided pro- jects, delayed utilisation arises from (b) if so, the facts thereof; factors which inter-alia include ex- change rate fluctuations, in ^adequate (c) whether due to delays in pro- counterpart by State Governments, ject implementation the country is not tardy land acquisition procedures able to utilise the World Bank assis- and other project specific issues. Such tance: problems some time lead to a delay in utilisation of World Bank assis- (d) if so, the details of the projects tance which is taken care of exten- for which the World Bank agreed to sion/restructuring of projects. pay assistance; and (d) A list of on-going projects with (e) the reasons for not utilising the World Bank assistance is enclosed as assistance? Statement: STATEMENT List of On-going projects US $ Million SI. Name o f the Project Undrawn No. Original balance Loan IBRD/ amount IDA 1 2 3 4 1. West Bengal, Social Forestry 33.7 1.985 2. Himalayan Watershed Management 30.2 9.310 3. Watershed Development in Rainfed Areas 38.4 29.134 4. Karnataka Social Forestry ...... 33.4 8.385 5. Kerala Social Forestry . 39.9 14.196 6. NAEP I 50\36 30.193 7. NAEP I I ...... 65.57 29.684 8. National Social Forestry ...... 217.08 77.731 9. National Agricultural Research II . 90.80 64.574 10. NNAEP III. 93.5 69.645, 11. National Water Management 114.0 105.160 163 Written Answer* JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 164 1 2 3 4 12. National Dairy I I ...... 385.1 269.948 13. National Seeds III * ...... 141.7 160.024 14. A.P. C y c l o n e ...... 210.0 40.30 IS. National S e r ic u ltu r e ...... 148.5 164.661 16. M.P. Major Irrigation...... 254.7 50.278 17. Haryana Irrigation II . . 181.3 29.851 18. U.P. Tubewells II . . . 119.5 0.441 19. Maharashtra Water Utilisaion . 38.6 2.249 20; Pariyar Vaigai . . . . 43.4 13.355 21. Upper Ganga Irrigation Modernisation . . 158.3 95.500 22. Gujarat Medium Irrigation II . 214.0 88.161 23. Narmada River Water Delivery & Drainage . . 195.0 147.358 24. West Bengal Minor Irrigation . 131.8 115.543 25. Maharashtra Composite Irrigation III . 214.2 187.515 26. A.P. Itrigation I I ...... 166.3 469.872 27. Bihar Public Tubewells . 77.6 70.127 28. Upper Krishna Phase-II . . . 330.0 298.759 29. Punjab Irrigation & Drainage 168.6 181.271 30. M.P. Fertilizer . . . . 184.6 19.759 31. Maharashtra Petrochemicals . 300.0 6.168 32. Cement Industry...... 165.0 90.165 33. IXth Telecommunications . . 193.0 35.406 34. Export D ev elo p m en t...... 120.0 91.743 35. Electronics Industry Development . . 210.0 7.499 36. Industrial Technology Development . 202.7 180.783 37* Ramagundam Thermal Power II . . 280.0 9.613 38. Korba Thermal Power II . . . . 424.8 21.225 39, Upper Indravati Hydro-Power . 359.9 193.656 40. Central Power Transmission .... . 250.7 132.323 41. Nhava Sheva P o r t ...... 250 0 20.805 42. Duddichua Coal ...... 109.0 19.632 43. Cambay Basin Petroleum . ^ 213.5 37.703 44-Indra Sarover . . . 44.4 47.833 45. Railway Electrification...... 279.2 279.2 165 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 166 1 2 3 4 46. Farakka II T h e r m a l...... 309.8 26.409 47. Trombay Thermal I V ...... 135.4 135.4 48. Jharia Coking C o a l ...... 57.7 5.657 49. National Highways 200.0 135.640 50. Chandrapur Thermal Power .... 300.0 125.558 51. Rihand P o w e r ...... 250.0 59.148 52. Kerala P o w e r ...... 176.0 138.601 53. Combined Cycle Power .... . 485.0 38.565 54. Coal Mining & Coal Quality Improvement 340.0 122.373 55. National Capital Power. .... 485.0 299.315 56. Talchar Thermal Power. .... 375.0 327.298 57. Western Gas Development .... 283.3 29.815 58. Railway Modernisation III 390.0 263.558 59. Karnataka Power II .... . 260.0 233.287 60. U.P. Power...... 350.0 302.952 61. States Road .... . 251.1 231.605 62. Natpha J h a r r i ...... 485.0 448.286 63. Maharashtra Power . . 400.0 376.651 64. Gujarat Water Supply & Sewerage 83.2 27.586 65. Calcutta Urban Development . 177.8 84.529 66. M.P. Urban Development .... 24.1 6.431 67. Tamil Nadu Water Supply & Sanitation . 92.1 56.535 68. Bombay Urban Development 179.0 111.834 69. Kerala Water Supply & Sanitation 65.7 40.643 70. Gujarat Urban Development 76.3 48.186 71. Illrd Bombay Water Supply & Sewerage. . 137.6 156.659 72. U.P. Urban Development . 158.7 122.719 73. Madras Water Supply & Sanitation . 69.31 146^788 74. Tamil Nadu Urban Development ■. . 282.4 231.386 75. Hyderabad Water Supply & Sanitation . « 79.9 94.704 76. Illrd Population . . . . . 86.5 2.256 67.2 27.171 53.5 19.429 79. Vlth Population . . . . . 125.1 114.210 167 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 168 1 2 3 4 80. Vocational Training . . . 276.8 264.423 81. Technician Education I . 260.0 263.265 82. Tamil Nadu Nutrition . 95.8 98.120 83. Integrated Water shed Dev (Hills) . • . • . 13.00 13.00 80.60 80.602 84. Integrated Watershed Dev. (Plains) ...... 60:452 57.026 85. N.G.D.C. II ...... 280.471 91.280 86. Tamil Nadu Agri-Development . . 92.800 92.800 87. Central Power . . . . 502.700 132.323 88. Northern Region Transmission project . 485.00 462.753 89. Oil India Petroleum . 140.000 68.141 90. Indian Export Engg. .... 90.00 12.628 91. Ilnd Petrochemical 12.00 11.00 92. Gujarat Rural Roads .... . 131.299 101.753 93. Sardar Sarover Project . .... 200.00- 200.00 94. Punjab Irrigation ...... 166.271 154.427 95. Integrated Child Services Development . . . . 104.541 98.808 96. Private Power Utility Project . . . . 98.00 98.00 97. I F F C O ...... 118.260 25.885 •Where the undrown balance is more than the original amount it is because of change value of SDRs vis. -viz the.US dollar. Use of Staff Car by Officials (d) whether there is any proposal to review the existing system and to 715. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR further tighten the arrangements to SHASTRI: Will the Minister of DE- effect economy? FENCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (a) whether any maximum'miledge (SHRI SHARAD PA WAR); (a) per staff car per month has been laid Yes, Sir. down by the Service Headquarters for effiectjpg economy in the use of petro- (b) to (d) As per extant guidelines, leum products; below the rank of Lieutenant General and equivalent, two or more officers (b) whether no individual» officer should travel in the same staff car, has to be provided- with a single staff to the extent possible. This is being car but the same are to be clubbed enforced. for use of at least .two officers; Besides the mileage restrictions and (c) if so, the details of the guide- a 15%—20% cut in the allocation of line* laid down, and the manner of petrol/diesel, the Services Headquar- allocation. of slaff ca tsJo officer*^ and ters have- alreadytaken further steps 169 Written-Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 170 for reduction in the consumption of tails of the fares before and after the petroleum products by banning use of revision; staff cars on Sundays and holidays except for operational or Law and (c) when were the fare last revised Order duties; effective maintenance in Delhi; of cars; effective training of drivers (d) the reasons for sharp increase and replacement of old vehicles with in fares when no such fares have been fuel-efficient ones in a phased manner. increased in respect of DTC or buses plying under DTC; Fare Structure of Boses Plying under (e) whether the buses under STA STA Permits in Delhi permit carry large number of stand- ing persons and have removed the 716. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR seats; and SHASTRI: Will the Minister of SUR- (f) if so, the number of buses boo- FACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: ked for such irregularities during the last twelve months? (a) whether the fare structure of buses including mini buses plying THE MINISTER FOR SURFACE under STA permits in Delhi has again TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH been revised. TYTLER): (a) to (c) Fares of buses under STA in Delhi were last revised (b) if so, the date from which the in April, 1990. The details of fares fares have been revised and the de- revised are as under:— Distance Pre-revised Revised fare fare w.ef. 2-4~90 (i) Standard Size buses Upto 5 Km. . Re. 0.50 Re. 0.75 Subsequent per Km. . Re. 0.05 Re. 0.05 (ii) Mini buses Upto 6 Kms. . Re. 0.50 Re. 0.75 6-16 Kms. . Re. 1.00 Rs. 1.50 16 & above . Rs. 1.50 Rs. 2.00 (iii) Point Micro minibuses Flat rate . Re. 1.00 Rs. 1.50 (d) Consequent upon hike in prices (e) and (f) The Delhi Administra- of petroleum products in 1990, vari- tion has informed that instances of ous associations of STA bus opera- tors represented for revision of fares. over-crowding have been noticed in Keeping in view the fact that fares STA buses. During the last 12 mon- were last revised in 1985, the fares of ths (i.e. from 1-6-90 to 31-5-91), 87 STA buses were revised in April, 1990 due to increase in operational buses were prosecuted for over-crow- cost. ding. 171 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 172 L ow gives mder “APNA GHAR” (f) if so, the details thereof and if Scheme not, the reasons therefor? 717. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHASTRI: WiU the Minister of FIN- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ANCE be pleased to state: (SHRI DALBIR SINGH) (a) National Housing Bank (NHB) has reported (a) the number of persons who have that it has not launched any scheme been given loans for constructing known as “Apna Ghar” scheme. houses under the ‘Apna Ghar’ scheme of the National Housing Bank since (b) to (f) Do not arise. its inception, State-wise and Union Territory-wise; (b) the details of the scheme, the [Translation] procedure to take loan and the rate Imports and Exports of interest; 718. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: (c) whether the State Governments Will the Minister of COMMERCE and Union Territories were asked to be pleased to state the value of im- furnish their proposals in this regard ports and exports during the last three to the Union Government; years? (d) if so, the names of the States and Union Territories which have sent THE MINISTER OF STATE IN their proposals and the details thereof; THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): The (e) whether the Union Government value of imports and exports during have taken any action thereon; and the last three years is as under: (Value: Rs. Crores) Year Imports Exports 1988-89 .... 28235 20232 1989-90(P) .... 35412 26781 1990-91(P) .... 43171 32527 P: Provisional Source: DGCI&S, Calcutta [English] (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): Over-Invoicing of Machinery by The investigations initiated by the En- Pepsi Foods Pvt Ltd. forcement Directorate (FERA) regar- ding alleged over-invoicing of import 719. SHRI PHOOL CHAND of machinery by M/s. Pepsi Foods (P) VERMA: Will the Minister of FIN- Ltd. are still in progress. ANCE be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 113 Angamaly-Mmnar-Madnrai National on February 22, 1991 and state the Highway outcome of the investigations regar- ding alleged'over-invoicing of import 720. SHRI PALA K.M. MATHEW: of machinery by M/s. Pepsi Foods Will the Minister of SURFACE Private Limited? TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) the action taken to repair and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Improve the Angamaly-Munnar- 173 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 174 Madurai National Highway in Kerala Writing-off Agtkuhoral Debts which is totally in a dilapidated con- dition; and 722. SHRI PALA K.M. MATHEW: (b) the time by which the work is SHRI M. BAGA REDDY: likely to be completed? Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (a) the present position regarding TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH writing off of agricultural debts upto TYTLER): (a) and (b) Angamaly is Rs. 10,000/-; connected to Munnar through N.H. No. 47 upto Cochin and then N.H. 49 (b) whether there is any proposal which continues upto Madurai. These to write off the debts of farmers in sections of National Highways are other banks also which are not with- being kept in trafficworthy condition in the purview of this decision; against the available maintenance and repair grant. Further improvements on (c) if so, the details thereof; and N.H. 49 will be taken up in a phased manner subject to the completion of (d) if not, the reasons therefor? surveys and investigations by the State PWD. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Construction of New National High- (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) Presum- way from Angamaly to Madurai ably, the Hon’ble Members are refer- ring to the Agricultural & Rural Debt 721. SHRI PALA K.M. MATHEW: Relief Scheme (ARDR), 1990 under Will the Minister of SURFACE which debt relief to the extent of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Rs. 10,000 per borrower was exten- ded by Government to eligible borro- (a) whether the Government propose wers including farmers, artisans and to construct a new National Highway weavers in rural areas, with effect from Angimaly to Madurai via The- from 15th May. 1990. The amount of kkady through the middle of the back- relief extended by public sector banks, ward Idukki District in Kerala; co-operatives and Regional Rural Banks under the Scheme till 1st July, (b) if so, the time by which the 1991 was Rs. 7434 crores covering National Highway is likely to be cons- about 297.56 lakh beneficiaries. tructed; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (b) No, Sir. (c) and (d) Do not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) No. Sir. Bonos Eligibility CeiHag (b) Does not arise. 724. SHRI GOVINDRAO NIK AM: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (c) There has been neither a request pleased to state: from the Kerala Government for in- clusion of this road in the National (a) whether the Government pro- Highway grid during the 8th Five pose to raise the ceiling fixed for the Year Plan, nor has the N.T.P.C. eligibility for bonus to its employees; (National Transport Policy Commit- and tee) recommended its inclusion in the National Highway network. (b) if so, the details thereof? 175 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 176 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN it earned more in terms of value as THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE compared to the previous year; (SHRI SHANTARAM POTDU- KHE): (a) and (b) The Central Ad- (b) if so, the details thereof and the ministrative Tribunal, Principal Bench, reasons therefor; and New Delhi, in a batch of applications filed before it, has held that the appli- cants (who represent a section of the (c) whether the Government propose to export more tea in international Central Government employees) shall market? be entitled to the payment of Produc- tivity Linked Bonus/Ex-gratia as long as their emoluments do not exceed THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Rs. 3500/- per month, as against the THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE existing eligibility ceiling of Rs. 2500 (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) and per month. The order of the Tribunal (b) Yes, Sir. The export of tea dur- is receiving attention of Government ing 1990 has been estimated at 199.66 M.Kgs. valued at Rs. 1028.20 Export of Industrial Goods crore with unit price of Rs. 51.50 per kg. as compared to 212.66 M.Kgs. 725. SHRI GOVTNDRAO NIK AM: (provisional) valued at Rs. 848.98 Will the Minister of COMMERCE be crore with unit price of Rs. 39.92 pleased to state: during 1989. (a) whether the Government have taken or propose to take any steps to The Gulf-crisis, rising domestic de- increase the export of industrial mand and stiff competition abroad goods; and have been the main reasons (b) if so, the details thereof? for decline of exports in quantity terms while increased unit price has THE MINISTER OF STATE OF earned higher value realisation over THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE the last year. (SHRI P CHIDAMBARAM): (a) and (b) The Government have recently (c) The objective of the Govt, is to introduced far-reaching reforms in maximise export of tea and at the the export-import policy aimed at re- same time to ensure availability of ducing controls through licensing, adequate quantity of tea at reasonable strengthening export incentives and price for domestic consumption. liaking import capability in a wide range erf imports to export earnings. These are designed to improve the Export of Betel Leaves export environment which will lead to increase in production and improve- 727. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MlSRA: ment in the quality of export of in- Will the Minister of COMMERCE dustrial goods. Besides, the downward be pleased to state the steps taken or adjustment in the value of Rupee proposed to be taken by the Govern- effected by Reserve Bank of India on ment to promote the export of Betel 1st and 3rd July, 1991 is also expec- Leaves? ted to improve India’s export earn- ings. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE Export of Tea (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Ex- 726. SHRI GOVINDRAO NIKAM: port of betel leaves is allowed on de- Will the Minister of COMMERCE controlled basis without any licensing be pleased to state: formalities. Replenishment rate of 30 per cent has been provided in the (a) whether the quantity of tea ex-new trade policy to promote their ported in 1990 fell in quantity though export 177 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 178 [Translation] (d) If so, the details thereof, branch- wise; and Loans Advanced by Lackaow and (e) The action taken or proposed Kanpur Brandies of State Bank of to be taken by the Government against Indore those found guilty? 728. SHRI RAM BADAN: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the Minister of FINANCE be pleased THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE to state: (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) and (b) The amount of loans advanced by (a) The amount of loans advanced Lucknow and Kanpur branches of by Lucknow and Kanpur branches of State Bank of Indore to the weaker State Bank of Indore to the weaker sections, businessmen and mill owners sections, businessmen and mill owners during the year 1988-89, 1989-90 and during the last three years, till date, 1990-91, the amount recovered and year-wise; the outstanding loans on this account are given in the attached statement (b) The amount recovered and the (c) State Bank of Indore has repor- outstanding loans, separately; ted that they are not aware of any complaint of irregularities in advan- cing the loans at the above branches. (c) Whether any complaints of ir- regularities have been received in ad- (d) and (e) Does not arise, in view vancing these loans; of (c) above. 179 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 180 oo vo Q oo 55 ^ ~ in «n J «il O 04 O O CO 1 1 I i s OO w ^ Os O & i-< oo »n S r=5 «> «n © © — go 55 ^ ^ oo vo Os Os VO ^ n3 ts i 55 O 00 o 2 ^ © CO l o o *r\ y - 4 a co r- O t CN O O CN 8 S . **5* .h rn \0 Os oo 55 ^ « © »n % I O O o O co 1 e * | , g 5 2 vn § in tofe a w O to © © t> r- § ©'i co© eo«—* ro 8 OK eo rs m § ro CN t*- co ^ m © os:r O CN 00 go r s vo § 181 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (S^4JL4) Written Answers 182 [English] schedule of the Constitution of India) by the Eighth Finance Commission; Prodartkm of Mag* SHk (b) whether the Ninth Finance 729. DR. JAYANTA RONGPI: Commission has awarded any amount Will the Minister of TEXTILES be to the said District Councils; and pleased to state: (c) if not. what is the policy of the (a) the quantity of Muga Silk pro- Union Government in this regard? duced during 1988-89, 1989-90 and 1990-91; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (b) whether the Government are (SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE): aware of the problems faced by ‘Muga (a) The Eighth Finance Commission Silk’ growers due to pollution from awarded Rs. 5 crores during 1984-89 the Oil field in Upper Assam; and for both the District Autonomous (c) if so, the steps the Govt, have Councils in Assam. taken or propose to take to protect (b) No Sir; The Ninth Finance the interest of ‘Muga’ silk growers? Commission recommended grants-in- aid to cover both the non-plan and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF part of plan gaps of the State of THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES Assam as a whole. (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) The year-wise details of Muga Silk pro- (c) Government have accepted the duction are as under: recommendations of the Finance Commission. SI. Year Productiom No. (.Metric [Translation] Tonnes) N.T.C. a*d S.T.C. Mffls 1. 1988-89 45 731. SHRI SATYNARAYAN 2. 1989-90 JATIYA: Will the Minister of TEX- 57 TILES be pleased to state the measu- 3. 1990-91 70 res taken by the Government under the new textiles policy to make the (Provisional) National Textile Corporation and the State Textile Corporation mills profi- (b) and (c) None of the Muga table and the time bound programme growing States nor the Central Silk in this regard? Board’s units have brought any such problem to the notice of the Board. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): Improv- Amoaat Awarded by Ffanace Com- ing the performance of textile mills mission to Aotoaoaoas Districts under National Textile Corporation is Councils of Assam a continuous process and it is not possible to indicate a time-bound pro- 730. DR. JAYANTA RONGPI : gramme. The following steps have Will the Minister of FINANCE be been taken to improve the profitabi- pleased to state: lity of the mills under NTC:— (a) the amount awarded to the Modernisation Autonomous District Councils of pruning uneconomic capacities Darbi Anglong and N.C. Hills of Assam (Constituted under the Sixth optimising economic capacities JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers m m Wrim Answers selective modernisation (d) 50,484 policies. higher productivity (e) The Corporation has laid down labour rationalisation the following time norms to be ob- served by its all offices in respect of competitive purchase of raw mate- maturity claim payments: rials (i) where all requirements are re- higher yam production ceived sufficiently in advance of lower cloth production the date of maturity, post dated cheques in advance should be price optimisation issued. product upgradation. (ii) where all requirements are re- ceived after the date of matu- Improving the performance of the rity, the cheques towards the textile mills run by the State Textile payment of claims should be Corporations is the concern of the res- issued within a maximum pective State Governments. period of 4 days from the date of completion of all for- [English] malities. (f) Several administrative measures Settfeaaeot of L.I.C Policies such as use of micro-processors, puri- fication of records, sending the dis- 732. SHRI SYED SHAHABUD- charge forms well in advance, etc. are DIN: Will the Minister of FIN- being taken to reduce processing time. ANCE be pleased to state: (a) the number of Life Insurance policies which had matured or becamc Sanctioned strength of Posts in High payable prior to 31-3-90 and which Courts remained unsettled on 1-4-90; 733. SHRI SYED SHAHABUD- (b) the number of such policies DIN : Will the Minister of LAW, which matured or became payable JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFF- during 1990-91; AIRS be pleased to state: (c) the number of policies included (a) the total number of sanctioned in (a) and (b) above which were settl- posts of Judges and Additional Judg- ed during 1990-91; es of High Courts as on 1 April, 1991, Court-wise; (d) the number of policies which re- mained under settlement on 31-3-91; (b) the vacancies in each High Court on that date; (e) the average time taken by Life Insurance Corporation to settle claims (c) the number of Judges and Addi- on maturity; and tional Judges belonging to OBC’s SC. ST and religious minorities on that (f) the steps taken to reduce pro- date; cessing time? (d) the steps taken or proposed to be taken to upgrade the representa- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tion of the under represented groups THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE in these posts; and (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) 64,946 policies. (e) the break-up of existing Judges/ Additional Judges by mode of ap- (b) *8£4a77 p0ficie». pointment Le. promotion from the (c) 19,08,739 policie*. bench or nomination from the Bar? 185 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 186 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN of India which do not provide for re- THE MINISTRY OF PARLIA- servation for any caste or class of per- MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINIS- sons. The Government have addressed TER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- letters to the Chief Ministers of States TRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE and the Chief Justices of High Courts, AND COMPANY AFFAIRS requesting them to locate persons (SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMARA- from the Bar belonging to the Sche- MANGALAM): (a) and (b) The re- duled Castas, Scheduled Tribes, Other quisite information is given in the Backward Classes, and women, who enclosed statement. are suitable for appointment as High Court Judges. (d) Appointment of Judges of the (c) and (e) The requisite informa- High Courts are made in terms of re- tion is being collected and will be levant provisions of the Constitution laid on the Table of the House. 13—13 LSS/N D /91 187 STATEMENT The Strength and Vacancies in Various High Courts as. on 1-4-1991 Written Answers Written *- l S5 3 1 "T*C^3 I S i •S 4 <5 jSS& ? ! 5? -^r £ to s • T i as * s* -in i - i £ ' I 'a-S £ 4 -5 1 f s • . to E ** $>-a- 9.a $ infN N(NN(S^«(SfS^ rO —"'t n c ...... JULY 26,1991 JULY • CSr- Persons killed/injured ja Elections THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- 734. SHRI SYED SHAHABUD- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER D1N: Will the Minister of LAW. JUS- OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY be pleased to state: AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARA- JAN KUMARAMANGALAM): (a) (a) the total number of persons and (b) A Committee of three Chief killed and injured separately in elec- Justice^ of High Court was constitut- tion violence during the General Elec- ed by liie Government in January, tion, 1991 between the nomination of 1989, to study the problem of arrears candidates and constitution of the in Courts and to suggest remedial Tenth Lok Sabha; measures. The Committee identified several reasons for Delays viz. litiga- (b) the break-up of fatal casualties, tion explosion, long arguments and State and Union Territory-wise with prolix judgements, failure to utilise the average electorate per casualty in grouping of cases, increase in legisla- each case; and tive activity etc. The Committee made available to the Government in September, 1990 several recommenda- (c) the details of Parliamentary tions in this regard covering various constituencies in which at least one aspects like jurisdictional and proce- life was lost with the number of lives dural modifications/improvements in- lost in each of them? cluding amendment of Civil Procedure Code, Criminal Procedure Code, Sec- tion 17 of Indian Divorce Act, Con- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN stitution of India, the Commission of THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- Inquiry Act, Arbitration Act, Limita- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER tion Act, etc. and also amendment of OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF State Statutes and High Court Rules. LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY These recommendations have been AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARA- forwarded to all concerned such as JAN KUMARAMANGALAM) : (a) Central Ministries/Departments, State to (c) The information is being collec- Govemments/UT Administrations and ted and will be laid on the Table of High Courts for implementation. the House. Modernisation of sick Textile Units Delay In Disposal of Cases 736. SHRI PRAKASHBAPU 735. SHRI SOBHANA DRES-VASANTRAO PATIL: Will the WARA RAO VADDE: Will the Mi- Minister of TEXTILES be pleased nuter of LAW, JUSTICE AND COM- to state: PANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government have chalked out any comprehensive sche- (a) whether some of the Acts fram- me for modernisation of sick textile ed several decades ago and the legal units; procedure are responsible in abnorm- al delay in disposal of cases; and (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (b) if so, the steps proposed to be taken by the Government to bring forward necessary amendments to the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF various statutes which affect the com- THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES mon people and to simplify legal pro- (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) to (c) cedure to avoid delay in disposal of A Textile Modernisation Fund with a cases? corpus of Rs. 750 crores was set up A9i Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 192 by Industrial Development Bank of ment to set up a bench of the Kerala India (IDBi) on 1-8-86 to meet the High Court at Trivandrum; modernisation requirements of textile mills. A part of the fund was ear- (b) if so, the details thereof and marked to provide special loan assis- the time by which this bench is likely tance to weak but viable units as a to be set up; and part of the promoters’ contribution to enable them to avail of modernisation (c) if not, the reasons therefor? assistance. As on 31-5-91 an ( mount of Rs. 747.45 crores has been disbur- sed in 280 cases. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER Renewal of Certificates of Export OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Houses LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARA- 737. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: JAN KUMARAMANGALAM): (a) Will the Minister of COMMERCE be No, Sir. pleased to state: (b) Does not arise. (a) whether Import and Export policy for 1988-91 is applicable for (c) la letter dated 2-4-1985, renewal of Export House Certificates the Government of Kerala stated that which were granted during 1987-88 they had not taken a final view regar- and expired on 31-3-1991; and ding the setting up of a bench of the Kerala High Court. No further com- (b) if not, the reasons therefor? munication has been received from the State Government in this regard. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) Construction of National Highway and (b) Export House Certificates from Parur to Edapally issued during the policy period 1987- 88 being valid for 3 years are not 739. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: automatically valid beyond 31-3-91 Will the Minister of SURFACE However, as per the provisions con- TRANSPORT be pleased to state: tained in the Import-Export Policy 1990-93, requests from such exporters (a) the progress made in the cons- for renewal of the certificate for a truction of the National Highway from further period of one year were con- Parur to Edapally in Cochin; sidered even in case where they did not qualify for renewal on the basis (b) whether the construction of of normal provisions, provided they Varapuzha bridge has not yet started; were eligible for such renewal on the basis of relevant provisions as con- (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and tained in the Import-Export Policy 1988-91. (d) the steps taken or proposed to be taken to complete this section of the National Highway at the earliest? Setting up of a Bench of Kerala High Court at Trivandrum THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 738. PROF. K. V. THOMAS THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be TLER): (a) to (d) National Highway pleased 1o stute: No. 17 already connects Parur and Edapally except for a missing bridge (a) whether there is any proposal across Varapuzha River. Construc- under consideration of the Govern- tion of this bridge will be taken up 193 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 after land for approaches on both [Translation] sides has been acquired. The State Govt, is expediting the land acquisi- tion. ' Issue of Shares by Big Companies 741. SHRI RAJ VEER SINGH: Modernisation of Cochin Port Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 740. PROF. K. V. THOMAS : Will the Minister of SURFACE TR- (a) the names of the big companies ANSPORT be pleased to state: which are issuing their equity shares at present; (a) the steps taken for modernisa- tion of the Cochin Port; (b) whether there has been sharp decline in the share market during (b) whether the Dutch Consultancy last six months; and report on Vallarpadam International Container Terminal is with the Gov- (c) if so, the reasons therefor? ernment; and (c) if so, the decision taken by the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Government thereon? THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE fSBRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR) : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) A statement is enclosed. THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TY- ib) No, Sir. TLER): (a^ A number of projects (c) Does not arise. aiming at modernisation of Cochin Port have been included in the An- nual Plan 1991 >92. Some of the im- STATEMENT portant schemes are: procurement of container handling equipment (phase- (a; There is no concept of big com- IT), procurement of Pollution Control parses under the Companies Act, Vessel, procurement of a dredger, pro- 1956. However, according to the in- curement of two 30-? 5 TON BP formation received from Securities Tugs. Ex re nf ion of Q 5 berth etc. and Exchange Board of India, the (b) Yes, Sir. following companies with equity capi- ta1 of above Rs. 10.00 crores have (c) No decision has so far been entered or are entering the market taken on the Consultancy Report. shortly:— (Rs. in crores) Name of the Company Type of Issue Amount Date o f Opening 1 2 3 4 1. Synthetics & Chemicals Convertible 25.00 17-6-91 Ltd. Debentures 2. Rallies India Ltd. Partly Convertible 20.01 17-6-91 Debentures 3. Usha Martin (I) Ltd. Partly Convertible 18.37 July, 1991 Debentures 1*5 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers m 1 2 3 4 4. Tata Timken Ltd. Equity and Partly 55. 5a August, 1991 Convertible Debentures 5. South India Viscose Partly Convertible 30.00 August/Septem- Debentures ber, 1991 6. Proctor and Gamble Partly Convertible 27.00 August, 91 (India) Ltd. Debentures Non-Convertible Debentures/Equity Loans given under Self-Employment (c) the amount allocated for the Scheme for Educated Unemployed same during 1991-92? Yoath THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 742. SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Will the Minister of FINANCE be (SHRI DALBIR SINGH) : (a) and pleased to state: (b) The amounts allocated under the scheme for providing Self Employ- (a) the amount allocated for the ment to the Educated Unemployed educated unemployed youth under Youth (SEEUY) for the years 1989- Self-employment Scheme during 1989- 90 and 1990-91 are Rs. 60 crores and 90 and 1990-9\1; Rs. 53 crores respectively. State-wise list of number of persons benefited under the scheme is given in the en- (b) the number of persons who closed statement. were benefited therefrom and the de- tails thereof, State-wise; and (c) Rs. 57 crores. STATEMENT Statement showing State-wise number o f beneficiaries under the Scheme for providing Self Employment to Educated Unemployed Youth (SEEU Y) for the years 1989-90 and 1990-91 Si. Name of the Statej No. o f persons who No. Union Territory were sanctioned loans during 1989-90 1990-91 1 2 3 4 1. Andhra Pradesh .... 7387 7782 2. A s s a m ...... 3141 3067 3. B ih a r...... 10386 11036 4. G u j a r a t ...... 5084 2419 5. Haryana . 241$ 2545 6. Himachal Pradesh 769 870 7. Jammu & Kashmir 223 •The data for 1990-91 is provisional. t9J Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 198 1 2 3 4 8. Karnataka '. . . 6010 5415 9. Kerala . . 8430 6036 10. Madhya Pradesh . 7936 7777 11. Maharashtra .... 8210 9027 12. Manipur ...... 749 750 13. Meghalaya ..... 90 14. N agaland ...... 57 15. Orissa 4344 4526 16. P u n j a b ...... 7690 6932 17. Rajasthan . . 5127 5312 18. Sikkim ' 17 28 19. Tamilnadu . . . . 8692 7644 20. Tripura ...... - , . . . 183 502 21. Uttar Pradesh . 13747 11619 22. West Bengal 6209 41 23. Andaman & Nicobar 20 19 24. Arunchal Pradesh . . . 16 22 25. Chandigarh...... 90 27 26. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 26 20 27. G o a ...... 124 199 28. Mizoram ..... 109 29. Pondicherry .... 230 305 30. Lakshadweep .... 20 12 31. Daman & Diu .... 12 12 TOTAL .... 107546 93944 National Highways in Madhya Pra- (b) whether the length of the Na- desh tional Highways in Madhya Pradesh is adequate keeping in view its area; 743. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VERMA: Will the Minister of (c) whether the Union Government SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased propose to declare the Indore-Harda- to state: Baitul road as National Highway, and (a) die details of the National High- ways in Madhya Pradesb and their (d) if so, when and if not, the rea- length; sons therefor? 199 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 200 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN The Indian Coastline and the Exclu- THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE sive Economic zone are kept under TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH surveillance by the Indian Coast TYTLER): (a) There are nine num- Guard vessels "and aircraft and all ber of National Highways (viz. 3, 6, 7, steps are taken to prevent unauthoris- 12, 16, 25, 26, 27 and 43) in Madhya ed fishing by foreign fishing trawlers Pradesh, aggregating to 2946 kms. in the Indian waters. (b) No comparison is possible in (b) The details of unauthorised this respect as National Highways are foreign fishing trawlers apprehended declared not on the basis of any con- during the last three years are: siderations of area, but keeping in view certain norms such as recom- Year No. o f mendations made by the N.T.P.C apprehensions (National Transport Policy Commit- tee), inter-se priority attached to indi- 1988 . 31 vidual roads on an All-India basis, 1989 . 36 fulfilment of the prescribed criteria for new N.Hs, availability of funds 1990 . 39 for the purpose, etc. 1991 . 21 (c) and (d) No, Sir. The N.T.P.C. (till date) (National Transport Policy Commit- tee) has not recoipmended this road Seizure of Gold, Silver and Heroin at for inclusion in the National Highway Airports grid and consequently, it does not command priority as a new National 745. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will Highway. the Minister of FINANCE be pleas- ed to state the quantity and value of [English] smuggled cold, silver and heroin seiz- ed by customs authorities at various Seizure of Foreign Fishing Trawlers airports in the country during the year 1990-91? 744. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleas- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ed to state: THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (a) the steps taken to prevent the (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): foreign fishing trawlers going near the The quantity and value of contraband Indian Coasts: and gold and silver and quantity of heroin seized by the Customs authorities at (b) the details of the seizures of the international airports located at such trawlers made during the last Bombay, Calcutta, Madras, Delhi, three years? Amritsar, Tiruchirapally, Patna and Vamasi during the financial year THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE 1990-91, i.e. April, 1990 to March, (SHRI SHARAD PA WAR): (a) 1991 are given in the table below: — Quantity Value (in kgs.) (Rs. in lakhs) Gold • 2759.947 9233.10 S i l v e r ...... 285.941 19.28 Heroin . . . . 227.880 No precise value of heroin can be estimated since it depends on its parity, place of origin etc. 201 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 202 Jute Cotporation of India High Court at various places in Uttar Pradesh, including Bareilly; 746. SHRI CH1TTA BASU: Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state: (b) if so, the names of the places where these benches are proposed to (a) whether the Government pro- be set up; and pose to further expand the activities of the Jute Corporation of India; (c) the time by which a final deci- (b) if so, the details thereof; sion in this regard is likely to be taken? (c) whether there is any proposal for the monopoly purchase of raw jute by the Jute Corporation of India; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (d) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER (e) whether the Government pro- OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF pose to ban the use of synthetic fibres LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY in the manufacture of sackings; and AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGA- RAJAN KUMARAMANGALAM): (f) if not, the reasons therefor? (a) to (c) In its report, the Jaswant Singh Commission recommended esta- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN blishment of a permanent Bench of THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES the Allahabad High Court at Agra (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) No, and two Circuit Benches thereof at Sir. Nainital and Dehradun. Specific re- (b) Does not arise. commendations of the Commission were referred to the Government of (c) No, Sir. Uttar Pradesh in October, 1986 for views and comments to be given in (d) Does not arise. consultation with the Chief Justice of (e) No. Sir. the High Court. Definite views and complete proposal have not yet been (f> Government are of the view that received from the State Government. the interests of the traditional jute packaging sector and the synthetic plastic units should be harmonised [English] and both of them should co-exist by having a legitimate share of the pack- aging of various sectors of the eco- Import of Usable Tyres as Sciap nomy. 748. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR [Translation] SHASTRI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Setting op of Benches of Allahabad High Court (a) whether attention of the Go- vernment has been drawn to news 747. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR item captioned ‘Government loses GANGWAR: Rs. 160 crores in revenue’ appearing SHRI BHAGWAN SHAN- in the ‘Indian Express’ dated 24 June, KAR RAWAT: 1991; Will the Minister of LAW, JUS- (b) if so. the number of cases of TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS clandestine imports of usable tyres in be pleased to state: the form of scrap tyres under OGL which have come to the notice of flic (a) whether the Government pro- Government and the action taken pose to set up benches of Allahabad against the persons involved; 14—is LSS/ND/91 203 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 204 (c) the loss of revenue incurred ib) if not, the time by which the thereby; and work is likely to be completed; and (d) the measures taken to tighten (c) the amount already spent there- the rules to check such modus oper- on? andi in future? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE TYTLER): (a) to (c) No, Sir. (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): Kozhikode-Palghat road is a State (a) The Government is aware of Highway and not a part of the Na- the news item. tional Highway network. As such, the State Government of Kerala are (b) to (d) The information is being responsible for its development. collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. [Translation] Advance from Japan against Construction of Bye-Pass Outside Exports Agra City Linking National Highways 749. SHRI HARI KISHORE 751. SHRI BHAGWAN SHAN- SINGH: Will the Minister of COM- KAR RAW AT: Will the Minister MERCE be pleased to state: of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government pro- pose to acquire an advance of one bil- (a) whether the road linking Delhi- lion U.S. dollars from Japan against Calcutta National Highway to Agra- long term exports; and Bombay National Highway and Agra- Jaipur National Highway to Agra (b) if so, the details in this regard? city is very narrow and passes through densely populated area of Agra city THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN thereby causing great rush of vehi- THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE cular traffic and difficulties for the (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): vehicles crossing these highways and (a) and (b) Bharat Business Interna- often resulting in accidents*. tional Ltd. (BBIL) at one stage was contemplating getting an advance (b) if. so whether the Government from Japanese trading companies have any scheme to construct a bye- against exports to be made through pass outside Agra city to link the them. Nothing concrete could, how- flbove National Highways: and ever, emerge on this. '€> if not. the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN KoiiAode-MgN National Highway THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH 750. SHRI K. MURALEEDHA-TYTLER): (a) Yes, Sir. RAN: Will the Minister of SUR- FACE TRANSPORT be pleased to (b) No, Sir. state: (c) Bypasses arc being given low (a) whether the preliminary work priority vis-a-vis other developmental of Kozhikode-Palghat National High- works in view of the general financial way has been completed; constraints. 205 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 206 (English] The Central Silk Board can take fur- ther action for development of oak Development of Oak Tasar Industry tasar culture in this region, after the in Garhwal Region basic problems affecting the sector, such as multiplication of seed in diffe- 752. SHRI BHUWAN CHAN- rent altitudes, stabilisation of com- DRA KHANDURI: Will the Mini- mercial cocoon crops, synchronisation ster of TEXTILES be pleased to of rearing schedules etc., are overcome state: through R&D work and an effective commercially viable technology is (a) whether the Central Silk Board developed* (CSB) has set up any Regional Tasar Silk Research Station in Garhwal re- gion for extending necessary research Bank Branches in Paiiri-Gariiwal and development and extension sup- Area port to the oak tasar industry in the region: 753. SHRI BHUWAN CHAN- DRA KHANDURI : Will the Mini- (b) if so, the details thereof and the ster of FINANCE be pleased to works undertaken by it so far; state: (c) whether the Central Silk Board (a) the number of branches of na- has conducted any survey to identify tionalised banks working in Pauri, specific villages for development of Chamoli, Tehri, Uttarkashi, Nainital oak tasar cultures in the region: and Almora districts; and (d) if so, the salient features of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) As (SHRI ASHOK GEHLOT): (a) and on 30-6-1991, 320 branches of Public (b) No, Sir. However, in order to Sector Banks were functioning in explore the potential of Oak tasar Pauri-GarhwaJ, Chamoli, Tehri Garh- culture in the hill areas of Uttar Pra- wal, Uttarkashi. Nainital and Almora desh, the Central Silk Board (CSB) Districts as per details given below: — has established a Regional Tasar Re- search Station at Bhimtal. Besides undertaking several experiments, this Name of District No. of Station has introduced a modified branches seed crop rearing schedule. Pauri Garhwal 60 (c) to (e) Central Silk Board has assisted the Department of Sericul- Chamoli 33 ture, Government of Uttar Pradesh in Tehri Garhwal 46 a survey undertaken by them to iden- tify specific villages for development Uttarkashi 22 of Oak tasar in Garhwal region. This Nainital 98 survey was undertaken in 4 districts of Garhwal region consisting of 25 Almora 61 Block and 282 villages. Total tasar forest area available in the 4 districts Total , 320 of Garhwal region is 4325 hectares. 207 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 208 (b) The opening of branches of [Translation] banks is a continuous process, go- verned by licences issued by RBI in Deposits in Nationalised Banks of this regard. As such, it is not pos- Uttar Pradesh sible to project the number of bran- 755. SHRI BHAGWAN SHAN- ches of Public Sector Banks to be KAR RAW AT: Will the Minister opened during the next two years. of FINANCE be pleased to state: However, 11 licences in Pauri Garh- wal, 3 in Chamoli, 4 in Tehri Garhwal (a) the amount of term deposits and 1 in Uttarkashi are pending with and other deposits in various nationa- banks. The validity period of these lised banks of Uttar Pradesh during licences has been extended upto 1990-91; 31-3-1992. (b) whether the Government have formulated any scheme for the invest- Plan Funds to Judiciary ment of money out of the deposited amount by nationalised banks in any State; and 754. SHRI DAU DAYAL JO- SH I: Will the Minister of LAW, (c) if so, the amount invested in JUSTICE AND COMPANY AF- development works out of such de- FAIRS be pleased to state: posits in Uttar Pradesh during the above period? (a) whether the Government pro- pose to allocate plan funds to the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN judiciary for its modernisation and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE development; and (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) As reported by Reserve Bank of India, (b) if so, the details in this regard? total amount of deposits of all public sector banks in Uttar Pradesh as at the end of June, 1989 (latest avail- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN able) were Rs. 13831 crores including THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- Rs. 7428 crores as term deposits. TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) and (c) The resources mobilis- LAW. JUSTICE AND COMPANY ed by the public sector banks includ- AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGA- ing deposits raised from the public R AJ AN KUMARAMANGALAM) : are deployed to finance various sec- (a) and (b) The proposal to allocate toral activities, demanding credit sup- Plan funds to judiciary for its mo- port from banks. The banks also dernisation and development was con- invest in securities of the State Go- sidered by this Department in con- vernments, local bodies and puhlic sultation with the Planning Commis- sector undertakings of the State con- sion. The Planning Commission are, cerned. In the case of Uttar Pradesh, however, of the view, that require- the following table will give the de- ment of upgradation of services, in- tails of the deposits raised by public cluding judiciary, have to be met sector banks and the bank credit in from the non-plan side only. that State for the last three years: (Rs. in crores) Deposits Credits Rs. Rs. December, 1988 13436 5680 December, 1989 15163 6578 December, 1990 17368 7664 209 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (Sa KA) Written Answers 210 [English] (c) No separate scheme to promote sea-food export from Portonovo alone is under consideration. Setting up of Sea-food Procurement Centre at Portonovo in Tamil Nadu Imports through Replenishment 756. DR. P. VALLAL PERU- Licences M AN: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: 757. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANI- GRAHI: Will the Minister of COM- (a) whether the Government pro- MERCE be pleased to state: pose to set up a sea-food procure- ment centre at Portonovo in South (a) the quantum of import in terms Arcot District of Tamil Nadu to pro- of rupee through the replenishment mote sea-food exports; licences during January-June; 1991; (b) whether the Government also (b) the quantum of replenishment propose to advance loans and grants (REP) licences and special kind of to fishermen to promote export orien- REP licences issued during the period; ted fishing: and (c) the items covered under the (c) the other schemes under the special kind of replenishment licen- consideration of the Government to ces; and promote sea-food export from Porto- (d) what type of control the Gov- novo? ernment envisage as far as replenish- ment licences are concerned? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (a) No, Sir. (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) Import statistics are compiled com- No. Value (Actual) (Rs. crores) (i) Advance Licences 2629 668 (ii) Special Imprest Licences 79 103 (iii) Imprest Licences 165 471 (iv) Additional Licences 295 219 (v) Duty Free Licences (vi) REP Licences .... . 23282 1303 Total . . 26450 2764 211 Written Answers JULY 26,1991 Written Answers 212 (c) (i) REP Licences are valid for Merger of Scheduled Banks import of Limited Permissible items and non-sensitive canalised items. 759. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANI- These are also valid for the import GRAH1: Will the Minister of FIN- of certain restricted items relevant to ANCE be pleased to state: the product exported as specified in Appendix 17 Part-111, to a limited (a) the reasons for sharp fall in the extent; deposit growth of scheduled banks; (ii) Additional REP Licences are (b) whether the Government pro- valid for import of OGL items of pose to amalgamate a few banks to raw material/components etc. in Ap- reduce the expenses and get better pendix 6 List 8/Part-I, OGL Capital returns; and Goods, Limited Permissible items, Non-sensitive canalised items, Techni- (c) if so, the details thereof? cal Designs, Drawings and other Technical Documentation, subject to the conditions laid down; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (iii) Advance licences and Special (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) Reserve Imprest Licences are valid for the im- Bank of India (RBI) has reported port of raw materials, components that the percentage increase in the and consumables etc. as are relevant deposits over the previous year of the and actually required for the manu- commercial banks was 18.96 per cent facture of resultant product for ex- and 16.74 per cent for the financial port/supply. Diamond Imprest Li- years 1989-90 and 1990-91 respecti- cences and DTC Imprest Licences arc vely. Some of the reasons for the fall valid for the import of Rough Dia- in the growth rate of deposits of monds for export production. banks are availability of certain other avenues of investment to public such (d) No control on replenishment as National Savings Scheme of 1987, (REP) licences is envisaged. These National Savings Certificates, Public licences are freely transferable in ac- Provident Fund, Units of Unit Trust cordance with the ordinary law. of India. Mutual Funds, Debentures/ Shares, company deposits etc. which incentives for EPZs and EOUs not only provide better interest rates but also enable the investors to secure 758. SHRI SRIBALLAV PAN1- certain concessions in Income-Tax. GRAHI: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: (b) No. Sir. (c) Does not arise. (a) the details of new packages of incentives proposed by the Govern- ment for the Export Processing Zones Credit-De posit Ratio of State Bank and Export Oriented Units; of Indore In Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh (b) whether the Government have conducted any survey in this regard: 760. SHRI RAM BADAN: Will and the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) if so. the details thereof? (a) the present credit-deposit ratio THE MINISTER OF STATE OF of the State Bank of Indore in Madh- THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE ya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh; (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): (a) to (c) A package of proposals for (b) the amount of advances/over- Export Processing Zones and Export drafts and other advances made by Oriented Units is under considera- the bank to the borrowers and the tion. amount outstanding /overdue in these 213 Written Answers SRA VAN A 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 214 accounts as on June 30, 1991 to the the approval of the Government of importers/exporters, industrial units India, an agreement was signed at in these States, during the last three New Delhi on 14-2-1991 between the year;, branch-wise; and Chairman, State Bank of India (SBI) and Chairman, Banco National Ultra- (c) the number of units financed by marino (BNU) Lisbon, for repatria- the bank in these States which are tion of sealed packets containing val- sick/closed and the amount of locked uables pledged against loans and safe up capital therein? custody articles; (b) and (c) In terms of the said ag- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN reement, BNU would transfer en-bloc THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE to State Bank of India all outstanding (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) As re- credits, securities and safe custody ported by Reserve Bank of India the articles against lump sum payment of Credit: Deposit Ratio of State Bank principal outstanding, interest thereon of Indore in Madhya Pradesh and and a %fixed service charge. A team Uttar Pradesh as on 31-3-1990 was of SBI'officials has left for Lisbon for 68.5 per cent and 40.6 per cent res- verification of the sealed packages pectively. and taking delivery thereof. (b) and (c) As on 30th June, 1991, State Bank of Indore had 289 bran- [Translation] ches in Madhya Pradesh and 7 bran- ches in Uttar Pradesh. The consoli- National Highways in Bihar dated information pertaining to these and branches in the two States is be- 762. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE ing collected and will be laid on the R A I: Will the Minister of SURFACE Table of the House. TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government pro- Return of Gold Ornaments irom pose to declare Patna-Muzaffarpur- Portugal Sitamarhi-Miththmore road, Sitamar- hi-Sonvarsa road, Saidpur-Pupari-Sur- 761 SHRI BHAGWAN SHAN- spubela road and Pupari-Chaurat- KAR RAWAT: Madhavapur road in Bihar as Natio- nal Highways. SHRIMATI SUM1TRA MAHAJAN: (b) if so, by what time: and Will the Minister of FINANCE (c) the estimated expenditure likely he pleased to state: to be incurred on each of these roads? (a) whether the Union Government THE MINISTER OF STATE OF have finalised the matter relating to THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE the return of gold ornaments and TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH other safe custody articles of Goans TYTLER): (a) No, Sir. presently held with Banco National Ultramarino, Lisbon, Portugal: (b) and (c) Does not arise. (b) if so, the details thereof; and Lateral Road on Nepal Border in (c) if not, the reasons therefor and Bihar the time by which the matter is likely to be finally settled? 763. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE RAI : Will the Minister of DEFEN- CE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (a) whether the Government pro- (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) With pose to construct a lateral road 215 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 216 passing through Runisaidpur, Pupri, (b) if so. the number of such fami. Sursund, Parigaon and Bela in Bihar lies to whan such loans have been adjoining Nepal from security point given during the last three years, year, of view: wise and State-wise? (b) if so, when: and (c) if not. the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANfr (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) in THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE terms of Reserve Bank: of India guide- (SHRI SHARAD PA WAR): (a) No. lines issued to all basks for lending Sir. to priority sector, banks should not obtain collateralsecurity by way of (b) Does not arise. mortgage of land/charge on landor third party guarantee for croploans (c) Defence oriented funds are uti upto Rs. 10,000 and term loans upto lised only (or the construction of roads Rs. 10.000 where moveable assets are of operational importance. created. However, primary security by way of hypothecation of crops Loans to Saudi and Marginal Far- and/or moveable assets should be mers and Agricultural Labourers taken. 764. SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD (b) The data reporting system does YADAV: Will the Minister of FIN- not generate the information in the ANCE be pleased to state: manner asked for. However, the State- wise outstanding amount of advances (a) whether the Reserve Bank of given by all scheduled commercial India has issued directive to the na- banks to small and marginal farmers tionalised banks to give loan upto Rs. for the last three years ending Decem- 3000/- to small and marginal farmers ber 1987. December. 1988 and Sep- and agricultural labourers on their tember 1989 (latest available) is given personal surety: and in the attached Statement. STATEMENT Sr. States! U. Ts. Amount No. (Rs. in lakhs) Dec. Dec. Sept. 1987 1988 1989 1 2 3 4 5 1. Haryana .... 14730 16203 16902 2. Himachal Pradesh 2758 3059 3369 3. Jammu & Kashmir 1189 1354 1368 4. Punjab .... 24817 27398 28873 5. Rajasthan . . 13080 16228 17004 6. Chandigarh . 893 691 697 7. Delhi .... 458 459 508 8. Assam 2858 3788 4747 217 Written Anwers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 218 1 2 ______3 4 5 9. Manipur . 220 319 370 10. Meghalaya . 356 825 863 11. Nagaland . . 365 280 941 12. Tripura 670 846 1030 13. Arunachal Pradesh 28 31 96 14. Mizoram .... 41 167 123 15. Sikkim .... 190 166 176 16. Bihar ..... 22633 27186 32300 17. Orissa .... 15720 17863 17985 18. West Bengal 18504 21159 23145 19. Andaman & Nicobar . 56 42 55 20. Madhya Pradesh . 19981 22961 25127 21. Uttar Pradesh 45243 51683 53570 22. Gujarat .... 16270 17424 17597 23. Maharashtra 32879 28855 41407 24. Goa, Daman and Diu . 557 984 892 25. Dadar and Nagar Haveli 15 15 25 26. Andhra Pradesh 63969 68647 75779 27. Karnataka 39466 40759 45122 28. Kerala .... 33548 34397 40848 29. Tamil Nadu 60459 53845 77064 30. Pondicherry 1238 769 1465 31. Lakshadweep 27 36 8 | English] Boards of all nationalised banks has not been done for the last three years; Appointment of Officers Nominees as Directors in Nationalised Banks (b) if so. the reasons therefor: and 765. SHRI DATTATRAYA (c) the steps taken or proposed to BANDARU: be taken by the Government to stre- amline the procedure in this regard? SHRI RAMESH CHAND TOMAR: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRIMATI MAHENDRA THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE KUMARI: (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) to (c) No officer employee director could be Will the Minister of FINANCE be appointed on the Boards of public pleased to state: sector banks for quite some time in view of the pending litigation in the (a) whether the appointment of offi- matter in various courts. Pursuant to cers nominees as Directors on the the judgement delivered by the Sup- 15 — 15 LSS/ND/91 219 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 220 reme Court in August, 1989, it has (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a)and(b) been decided by the Government to Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has re- appoint officer employee directors cently advised all banks that demand from among the office-bearers of the drafts, mail transfers, telegraphic tra- majority all India bank officers’ asso- nsfers and traveller cheques for Rs. ciation of the bank, with first prefe- 50,000 and above should be issued by rence being given to the General Sec- banks only by debit to customers’ ac- retary of the association; and in case count and not against cash payment. he suffers from any disqualification, Similarly such payments for Rs. 50,000 to the President or the Vice-President and above are to be made through of the association in that order. Al- banking channels and not in cash. ready officer employee directors have been appointed by the Government (c) and (d) The present data report- on the Boards of Bank of India, New ing system does not generate the in- Bank of India and Corporation Bank. formation asked for. Such vacancies existing in other banks (e) In order to prevent opening of will also be filled up very soon. account in benami and fictitious names with banks, RBI has already issued Cash Dealings in Bank Drafts a number of circulars wherein banks have been advised to obtain proper 766. SHRI DATTATRAYA introduction before opening any ac- BANDARU: count. Banks have also been advised SHRI RAMESH CHAND by RBI to carefully monitor all tran- TOMAR: sactions with unusual characteristics. SMT. MAHENDRA [Translation] KUMARI: Per Capita Amount of Central Will the Minister of FINANCE be Grant to Bihar pleased to state: 767. SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN: (a) whether the RBI has issued any Will the Minister of FINANCE be directives to banks to stop cash deal- pleased to state: ings in Bank Drafts; (a) the per capita amount of Cent- (b) if so, the details thereof: ral grant to States during the last five years. State-wise; (c) the number of cases where the newly opened current accounts with (b> whether the per capita amount banks in fictitious names were used to of Central grant to Bihar is compa- deposit large sums in cash, which were ratively less than other States; subsequently withdrawn for payment against drafts purchased from the (c) whether the Government of same or the other banks during the Bihar has requested the Union Gov- last two years till date, bank-wise; ernment to increase the per capita amount of Central grant to Bihar; (d) the number of cases where goods and were purchased by securing demand drafts against cash payment in the (d) If so, the reaction of the Union name of fictitious persons operating Government thereto? from unidentifiable or fictitious add- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN resses during the above period, THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE bank-wise; and (SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE): (e) die measures taken or proposed STATEMENT Statewise amount of Per Capita Grants from the Centre to States (Figures in Rupees) States 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 1989-90 1990-91 (Actuals) (Actuals) (Actuals) (R.E.) (B.E.) . 1. Andhra Pradesh . 73 70 85 81 76 2. Arunachal Pradesh 2186 2588 2507 2963 2972 3. Assam. 175 215 230 265 245 4. Bihar . 56 56 76 56 78 5. Goa .... 577 360 460 442 540 6. Gujarat 51 119 101 77 112 7. Haryana 114 103 107 118 105 8. Himachal Pr. 564 691 688 749 779 9. Jammu & Kashmir 488 499 618* 670 578 10. Karnataka 62 61 75 74 70 J 1. Kerala 66 65 74 109 98 J2. Madhya Pr. 68 79 98 81 186 13. Maharashtra 68 72 83 82 68 14. Manipur 953 1046 1199* 1374 1368 15. Meghalaya . 823 970 1050 1250 1402 16. Mizoram 1095 1798 2735 3258 291 17. Nagaland 2056 2448 2266* 2207 2145 18. Orissa 110 129 162 196 252 19. Punjab 74 63 101 162 123 20. Rajasthan . 121 154 153 121 203 21. Sikkim 1982 2048 2251 2147 2318 22. Tamil Nadu 54 70 81 60 61 23. Tripura 712 791 981 1110 1246 24. Uttar Pr. 58 73 87 83 165 25. West Bengal 73 89 104 79 89 R.E.: Revised Estimates. B.E.: Budget Estimates. ’"Relates to revised estimates. Source: Reserve Bank of India, Bombay. 223 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 224 [English] infiltrators in the process of intercep- tion during 1990-91, and infiltrators and Exfiltrators Intercep- ted by Army in J&K (d) the overall trends as gauged from the pattern of infiltration and 768. SHRI SYED SHAHABUD- exfiltration? DIN: Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (a) the number of infiltrators and (SHRI SHARAD PAWAR): (a) to (d) exfiltrators intercepted by the Army A statement is attached. across the line of actual control in Jammu & Kashmir during 1990-91 quarter-wise; STATEMENT (b) the number out of them killed 1. The number of infiltrators and in the course of interception: exfiltrators intercepted by the Army across the Line of Control in Jammu (c) the number of sophisticated wea- & Kashmir during 1990-91, quarter- pons, item-wise captured from the wise, is as under:— SI. Quarter Infiltrators Exfiltraton No. 1. Jan—Mar 90 5 11 2. Apr—Jun 90 . . . 140 182 3. Jul—Sep 90 . . . 274 100 4. Oct—Dec 90 . . . 317 108 5. Jan Mar 91 1 — 6. Apr —June 91 105 56 Total 842 523 464 infiltrators/exfiltrators were the most frequently used rou- killed in the course of interception. tes of infiltration/exfiltration. Lately, routes over difficult ter- 2. The following recoveries were rain are also being used. made from the infiltrators: (iii) As compared to last year, the Rifles AK 47/56 591 militants apprehended in recent Machine guns 73 months are far better trained. Pistols 318 DTC Buses on Inter-State Routes RL/RPG 68 Grenades — 849 769. DR. C. SILVERA: Will the 242 Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT Mines — be pleased to state: 3. The following aspects are notice- (a) whether the Delhi Transport able: Corporation (DTC) has been plying (i) The largest number of incident its buses on Inter-State routes; of infilt/exfilt were in the mon- ths of April—October, 1990. (b) if so, the names of these routes; (ii) In 1990, Kupwara, Northern (c) whether the Government have Gallies and Uri sectors were taken any steps to ensure punctual 225 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 running of the DTC buses on these 5. Delhi—Faridabad routes; 6. Faridabad—Gurgaon (d) if so, the details thereof ; 7. A.I.I.M.S.—Faridabad 8. S.J. Hospital—Gurgaon (e) whether the E>TC proposes to 9. K. Trml.—Faridabad ply its buses on some more Inter-State routes; and 10. Lajpat Nagar- Faridabad 11. Delhi—Hodal (f) if so, the details of routes pro- 12. posed to be covered during the next Delhi—Jind five years, year-wise? 13. Delhi—Pehwa 14. Delhi—Patla THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE 15. Delhi—Panipat TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH 16. Delhi—Narnol (via Sohna) TYTLER): (a) Yes, Sir. 17. Delhi—Narnol (via Maheshar) (b) The details are given in the 18. Delhi—Yamuna Nagar attached Statement. 19. Ajmeri Gate—Sohna/Gurgaon 20. Shivaji Stadium—Gurgaon/Sohna (c) and (d) The Delhi Transport Corporation has been taking adequate 21. Delhi—Bhiwani steps to ensure punctual running ol 22. Delhi - Hissar DTC buses on inter-state routes. The 23. Delhi - Kaithal steps taken towards this include; 24. Delhi—Kalka (1) Deployment of new and heal- 25. Delhi —Kharkhoda thy fleet; (2) Fleet manned by selective HIMACHAL PRADESH crew; 1. Delhi— Baijnath (3) Counters at ISBT are being 7 Delhi—Chamba manned by the time keepers who regulate the service pro- 3. Delhi- Devi Darshan perly. Time keepers are depu- 4. Delhi — Dharamshala ted on some outstation points 5. Delhi - Hamirpur also to maintain punctuality of services; 6. Delhi - Mandi 7. Delhi—Shimla (4) By enforcing better adminis- trative and operational control. JAMMU & KASHMIR (e) No, Sir. 1. Delhi—Jammu (f) Does not arise in view of reply to (e) above. 2. Delhi—Katra STATEMENT MADHYA PRADESH 1., Delhi - Gwalior Names of the Inter-state routes operated by DTC HARYANA PUNJAB 1. K. Trml. ~ Bahadurgarh 1. Delhi—Amritsar 2. K. Trml.—Palam Vihar 2. Delhi—Banga 3. K. T rm l....Badli 3. Delhi—Bela 4. Delhi- Balabgarh 4. Delhi—Bhatinda 227 Written Answers JU LY26, 1 0 1 & 5. Delhi— Chandigarh JO. Delhi-Badaun-I (via Moradabad) 6. Delhi— Dhuri 11. Delhi-Badaun-Il (via Narora) 7. Delhi—Hoshiarpur 12. Delhi—Dehradum 8. Delhi—Kapurthala 13. Delhi—Etha 9. Delhi—Ludhiana 14. Delhi—Farukhabad (night via 10. Delhi—Machiwara Kayamganj) 11. Delhi—Patiala 15. Delhi—Farukhabad (via Raja ka 12. Delhi—Pathankot Rampur) 13. Delhi—Talwara 16. Delhi -Ghaziabad/Dujana 14. Delhi—Malerkotla 17. K. Trml.—Ghaziabad 15. Delhi—Sangroor 18. Nehru Place — Ghaziabad 16. Delhi—Bias 19. Shivaji Stadium -Ghaziabad 20. Shivaji Stadium-- Mohan Nagar/ RAJASTHAN Air Force Station (Hindon) 21. Delhi—Dadri 1. Delhi—Alwor 22. Shivaji Stadium - NTPC (Dadri) 2. Delhi—Ajmer 23. Pragati Maidan - Vijaynagar. 3. Delhi—Bharat pur 24. Delhi -Goverdhan 4. Delhi—Balaji 25. Delhi- Haridwar 5. Delhi—Bikaner 26. Delhi—Hastinapur 6. Delhi—Ganga Nagar1 (via Sangaria) 27. Delhi—Kishanpur Bral/Bagpal 7. Delhi—-Ganga Nagar 11 (via 28. Delhi—Khurja Abhor) 29. Delhi...Kotdwar 8. Delhi—Jaipur (via Alwer) 30. Delhi--Kasganj 9. Delhi—Jaipur (via Kotputli) 31. Delhi—Lucknow 10. Delhi— Jhunjunu 32. Delhi Mansoorie (Delux) 11. Delhi—Khetri 33. Delhi —Moradabad 12. Delhi—Kotputli 34. Delhi—Meerut 13. Delhi—Mahavirji 35. Delhi Mathura 14. Delhi—Sahapura 36. Delhi—-Mainpuri 15. Delhi—Pilani 37. Shahdra—Mandola 16. Delhi—Puskerji 38. Delhi—Muzaffar Nagar 17. Delhi—Siker 39. Delhi—Nainital (via Tanda) 40. Delhi- -Nainital (via Pant Nagar). UTTAR PRADESH 41. Delhi -Naziba Bad. 1. Delhi—Agra (via Kosi) 42. Delhi—Pilibhit. 2. Delhi—Agra (via Hathras) 43. Delhi— Ram Nagar 3. Delhi—Aligarh 44. Delhi- Rishikesh 4. Delhi—Almora (Delux) 45. Delhi -Saharanpur *5. Delhi—Anoopsher 46. Delhi—S ^ b ab ad . 6. Delhi— Haldwani (via Tanda) 47. Delhi Sikohabad 7. Delhi— Haldwani (via Pant) 48. Delhi—-Tanakpur 8. Delhi—Bareilly 49. Delhi—Kanpur 9. Delhi—Bullandsher 50. Delhi - Varindavan. 229 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 230 Increase in Number of Buses on (b) The better performance of for Rentes having Heavy Traffic Poten- eign banks may be attributed among tial other things, to their concentration in metropolitan and port towns, their 770. DR. C. SILVER A: Will the overseas network enabling them to at Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT tract more NRI deposits, mechanisa be pleased to state: tion and computerisation of opera tions, lower priority sector lendings (a) the criteria laid down by tbe and high level of non-fund business. Delhi Transport Corporation to incr ease the number of buses on a parti (c) Government and Reserve Bank cular route where there is a hevy tra of India have already taken a number ffic potential; and of steps to ensure the viability and improve the performance of public (b) if so, the details thereof and the sector banks. The measures taken routes where such increase has been include strengthening of the capital made during 1990 and 1991 till June? base, rationalisation of service charges and interest rates structure and con tainment of staff growth. The banks THE MINISTER OF STATE OF have also been advised to ensure bet THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE ter credit management, raise produc TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH tivity and effect economy wherever TYTLER): (a) and (b) Periodic sur possible. To provide the competitive veys are carried out by the DTC on edge to banks, new money market routes having excessive passenger loads instruments like certificates of depo and also to ascertain the viability of sits and commercial papers have been the route if increased number of buses introduced and rates of interest on are provided. Additional buses have term deposits have been enhanced. been provided on Route Nos. 509, 1. Banks have also been permitted to 143, 934, 735, 958, 66 and 984 dur diversify their activities. ing 1990 and till June, 1991. [Translation] Performance of Public Sector Baidu Proposal to inclnde Jodhpur Bye-pass 771. SHRI YASHWANTRAO PA- in Strategic Road Programme TIL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 772. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of (a) whether the performance of for SURFACE TRANSPORT be plea eign banks in India and the deposit sed to state: growth rates in these banks is more impressive as compared to public sec (a) whether the Jodhpur bye-pass tor banks; between Nasirabad to Pokhran in Rajasthan is of strategic importance; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (b) whether the Government of (c) the steps the Government pro Rajasthan has submitted a proposal pose to take to improve the perfor to the Union Government for inclu mance of the public sector banks? sion of the above bye-pass in the stra tegic road programme; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) if so. the decision taken by the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Union Government in this regard? (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) Perfor mance of foreign banks in India in terms of profitability and deposit gro THE MINISTER OF STATE OF wth rate is more impressive as com THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE pared to that of public sector banks. TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH 231 Writlen Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 232 TYTLER): (a) to (c) Sir, the infor- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF mation cannot be disclosed in public THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE interest. TRANSPORT (SfiRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. A statement indicating both the require Conver^oii of National Highways into ments is attached. Expressways (c) to (e) At the behest of the State 773. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL Government of Rajasthan, the Mano- BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of harpura-Dausa Road link was inclu SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased ded in the National Highway grid in to state: February, 1989. However, the balance (a) whether the Government have proposals for new National Highways, given permission to convert some and the projects proposed so far under National Highways into Expressways; Inter-State or Economic Importance and Scheme, can be considered only after the formulation of the 8th Five Year (b) if so, the names of such National Plan depending upon inter-se priori Highways? ties, funds available etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF STATEMENT THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (A) Proposals for new National High TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH ways received ia 1989-90: TYTLER): (a)and(b)N o. Sir. How ever, an Expressway No. NE-1 is pre Cl) Manoharpura—Dausa Road sently under construction from Ahme- link. dabad to Vadodara along an altoge ther new alignment. (2) Ajmeer—Bhilwara—Chittore— Indore Road. [English'] (3) Dausa—Sawaimadhopur. (4) Extension of 11-A from Mano National Highways in Rajasthan harpura to Bagru via Chomu. 774. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL Proposals for new National Highways BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of received during 1990-91 upto SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased June, 1991. to state: (i) Bikaner—Merta—Ajmer— (a) whether the Government of Bhilwara—-Chittorgarh—Rat- Rajasthan submitted some proposals lam—Indore. for declaring certain roads as Nation al Highways and also for construction (ii) Gurgaon—Alwar Sariska- of bridges on Inter-State roads during Dausa—Sawai Madhopur - 1989, 1990 and 1991 (upto 30 June); Shivpuri. (iii) Kosi—Kama—Deeg-Bharat- (b) if so, the details thereof; pur—Roopwas—Sepau—Dhol- pur. (c) the details of the proposals, out of the above, which have been sanc (iv) Extension of NH. 11(A) from tioned so far; Chandwaji (on NH. 8) to Chomu (on NH. 11) and Chomu (d) the time by which the remaining to Bagru (on NH. 8). proposals will be sanctioned; and (B) Proposals under Inter-State or (e) if no proposal has been sanc- Economic Importance during tioned, the reasons therefor? 1989-90; 233 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 {SAKA) Written Answers 234 (i) Bridge on river Parvati on (9) Construction of High Level Chhabra-Dharnavada road bridge across Gambhir river on (Cost: Rs. 350.00 lakhs) Hindaun Dhawan Dholeta road in Km. 14/15 (Cost: Rs. 250.00 (ii) Bridge on river Ujhar on S.H. lakhs). No. 19 District Jhalawar (Cost: Rs. 75.00 lakhs) (10) Construction of High Level bridge across river Morel on Bhadoti Gangapur road (Cost: Proposals under Inter-State or Eco- Rs. 600.00 lakhs). ‘ nomic Importance during 1990-91 upto June, 91. (11) Construction of High -Level bridge near Jaitpura on Rani- (1) Construction of H.L. Bridge wara Mander road SHW No. across river Parvati on Chha- 11 (Cost: Rs. 165.00 l^khs). bra-Dharnaoda road (Cost: Rs. 350.00 lakhs) (12) Construction of High Level bridge near Karaunti on Sirohi (2) Construction of H.L. Bridge Revdar Mandor Deesa SH No. across river Parvan on Baran 27 (Cost: 200.00 lakhs). Khanpur Jhalawar road in KM. 21 (Cost : Rs. 360.00 (13) Construction of High Level lakhs) Bridge over river West Banas on Sirohi Pindwara Abu road (3) Construction of H.L. Bridge near Taleti (Cost: Rs. 200.00 across river Ujhar on Inder- lakhs). garh Itawa Baran Khanpur Jhalawar Bhawani Mandi Dag Agar road (Cost: Rs. 96.00 lakhs) [Translation] (4) Construction of H.L. Bridge Smuggling of Gold and Silver across river Kunu on Kota Baran Shahbad Shivpuri road (Cost: Rs. 150.00 lakhs). 775. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of (5) Construction of High Level FINANCE be pleased to state: bridge across river Jagar on Bharatpur Bayana Hindaun (a) whether there has been a spurt road at Km. 69 (Cost: in the smuggling of gold and silver Rs. 180.00 lakhs). since 1989-90; (6) Construction of High Level (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and bridge over river Dheel on Bonli Newai road in Km. 14 (Cost: Rs. 220.00 lakhs). (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken to check it? (7) Construction of High Lelvel bri- dge across river Jeewat in Km. 16 of Gangapur Bhadoti sec- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tion of Bayana Hindaun Gan- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE gapur Bhadoti road (MDR-2) (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR) : (Cost: Rs. 270.00 lakhs). (a) and (b) Since- smuggling is a clan- destine activity, it is not possible to (8) Construction of High Level estimate whether there -has been a bridge across river Bandi on spurt in the smuggling of -gold and Chaksu Fagi road SHW No. 2 ' silver since 1989-90. However, the (Cost: Rs.;25O.0(Hakhs). figures ;of; the quantity- of gold '*nd 16—15 LSS/ND/91 235 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 236 silver seized during the last two years increasing trend in the case of silver as given in the table below show an but not so in the case of gold. Quantity (in kgs.) Year Gold Silver 1989 ...... 8215 99332 1990 ...... 5596 220313 *1991 (upto 15-7-1991) 3064 123046 ♦Figures are provisional. (c) The anti-smuggling drive has THE MINISTER OF STATE IN been intensified and the anti-smuggl- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ing machinery throughout the country (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) The especially in the vulnerable areas of total amount of debt relief pro the land borders, coastline and the vided under the Agricultura* and international airports and seaports hss Rural Debt Relief (ARDR) Scheme been geared up. Close co-ordination is as on 1-7-1991 by all public sector being maintained with all the agencies banks including nationalised banks concerned in detection and prevention was Rs. 2759 crores. The correspond of smuggling. Sophisticated equip ing State-wise position with regard to ments like X-ray baggage machines, the waiver of loans effected under metal detectors, night vision binocu ARDR Scheme to eligible borrowers lars are being increasingly used. is given in the attached statement. (b) and (c) The benefit of debt relief Debt Relief given under Agricultural will be available to the following cate and Rural Artisan Debt Relief Scheme gories of borrowers: 776. SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSH1: (a) Non-wilful defaulter farmer by Will the Minister of FINANCE be the “Annewari System” applied pleased to state: on the village basis. The far mer who has defaulted in pay (a) the amount of debt relief pro ment of his loan for two or vided by the nationalised banks under more bad crop years on the ba the Agricultural and Rural Artisan sis of the Annewari sysfem. will Debt Relief Scheme, 1990 during be treated as a non wilful de 1990-91 State-weise; faulter eligible for debt relief. (b) whether debt relief has been (b) defaulter farmer, artisan and given under this scheme to all those weaver with ‘chronic overdues* persons, who have been paying back i.e. overdues which remained their loans regularly; unpaid for more than three years at the cut off date i.e. (c) if not, the reasons therefor; 2-10-1989. The concept of An newari does not apply in this (d) whether there is proposal to ex category. tend this scheme to small artisans in the small scale industry sector in (c) The surviving family of a dece urban areas; Hud ased borrower on whom the lity has devolved on (e) If id, &e details thereof? 2-10-1989. J37 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Written Answers 238 (d) The farmer who had filed in- (d) and STATEMENT Sr. State/Union Territory Amount No. (Rs. in lakhs) 1 2 3 1. Andhra Pradesh...... 41,345 2. Arunachal Pradesh .... 64 3. Assam...... 5,784 4. Bihar ...... 19,598 5. Goa ...... 282 6. G u j a r a t ...... 13,803 7. H a r y a n a ...... 8,232 8. Himachal Pradesh .... 2,148 9. Jammu & Kashmir ...... 439 10. Karnataka ..... 27,610 11. K e r a l a ...... 6,642 12. Madhya Pradesh...... 15,738 13. M a h a r a s h tr a ...... 25,635 14. M anipur ...... 434 15. Meghalaya . . . . . 644 16. M iz o r a m ...... 98 17. Nagaland . . . . . 618 18. O r i s s a ...... 12,111 19. Punjab ...... 7,682 20. R ajasthan...... 15,493 21. S i k k i m ...... 268 22. Tamil N a d u ...... 23,112 23. T r i p u r a ...... 794 24. Uttar P r a d e s h ...... 28,976 25. West B e n g a l ...... 16,856 26. C h a n d i g a r h ...... 74 27. Dadra & Nagar Haveli . . 15 239 Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 24tf 1 2 28. Daman & Diu 11 29. D elh i...... 452 30. Lakshadweep . . 3 31. Pondicherry 725 32. Andaman & Nicobar Islands 36 Total . . 2,75,922 Or Rs. 2759 Crores [English] country-wise break-up is given in the attached Statement. Indian Banks Functioning Abroad (b) Reserve Bank of India has re ported that the capital requirements, 777. SHRI YASHWANTRAOwherever prescribed by the regulatory PATIL: Will the* Minister of FIN authorities of respective countries, ANCE be pleased to state: have been met by Indian banks. (a) the number* of Indian Banks (c) Does not arise. functioning abroad, country wise; . (d),VariQus steps have been taken in the last few years to monitor and (b) whether the* capital base of improve the operations of overseas Indian banks abroad is still low; branches which inter-alia include strengthening of "personnel policy and (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and prudential norms in regard to lending limits and country exposures, reinforc (d) the steps the Government pro ing of internal and supervisory control, pose to take to improve the perfor prompting co-operation and co-ordi mance of Indian banks abroad? nation among the Indian banks, port folio inspection -of international divi sions, closure of non-viable branches, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN review of problem credits etc. The im- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE .portant developments of overseas bra (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): (a) At pre nches are also discussed in detail by sent 9 Indian banks are‘operating 115 tjfovernor, Reserve Bank of India in branches abroad. Bank-wise and his Action Plan meetings 241 Written Answers SRAVANA 4, 4913 (SAKA) Written Answers 242 oo ^ ^ cn' £ R. gfiq co 5 J | .<3R §*i*i § , •Vs s* o R •S-* ^ s ^je OQJ3 Ss* J3 ^ ? '•t 2 1 * 1 p (§aq§ « Bank-wise Bank-wise and Country-wise break up of overseas branches of Indian banks as on date & a§ 243" Written Answers JULY 26, 1991 Written Answers 244 m vo r-4 in ro »n m cs -N CN| T-H vo *o cn vo Tj-00 a a o o & ’S &d XJ a +-* H3 a l TO1 CO ei | § •c .2 & 5 £ CO CO K CO H p £> 3 u io 1 O s © cs m cs CN Fulfilment of International Obligations Construction and En&roachment on by SBI Military Laud Around Mahatma Gandhi Park, Kanpur 778. SHRI HARr KISHORE SINGH: Will the Minister of FIN- 780. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHE- ANCE be pleased to state: KARA MURTHY* Will the Minis- ter of DEFENCE be pleased to state: (a) Whether the State Bank of (a) whether there has been large India has not been able to fulfil its scale unauthorised construction of international payment obligations and buildings and encroachment of the raise loans in foreign currency; military land in or around Mahatma (b) if so, the details thereof and Gandhi Park, Kanpur; the reasons therefor; and (b) whether the office of the Cen- tral Command of Indian Army and (c) the steps taken or proposed to other Army Authorities had not sanc- be taken by the* Government in the tioned any plan of construction of the matter? buildings; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) whether the LAO had a’so ob- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE jected to the proposal of the Cantt. (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR) : Board in this regard as early as in (a) No Sir. State Bank of India has 1984; been able to fulfil its international (d) if so, the facts thereof; nayment ob'igations and has been able to raise loans in foreign currency. (e) whether any inquiry was order- ed into the matter? fb) and (c) Does not arise. (f) if so, the outcome thereof; and (g) if not, the reasons therefor? Special Courts 779. SHRI RAJENDRA KU- THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE MAR SHARMA: Will the Minister of (SHRI SHARAD PA WAR): (a) No, LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY Sir. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) Plans for the construction of (a) the number of special courts buildings within cantonment areas are constituted during the last two years; sanctioned by the Cantonment Board. (b) whether the Government pro- (c) and (d) Local Audit Officer pose to wind up the special courts; raised an objection of a technical and nature regarding the conversion of 7 units of Malis quarters into shops by (c) if so, the details thereof? the Cantonment Board, ‘inter-alia*, statmg that this action amounted to a change of purpose in respect of a por- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tion of land vested in the Cant n- THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- ment Board as Public Garden (Mahat- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER ma Gandhi Park) into commercial OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF use without the requisite sanction. LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY Th? Cantonment Board and Defence AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARAJAN Estates authorities have initi ted KUMARAMANGALAM): (a) to (c) action for obtaining the required The information is being collected sanction to requ!arise the matter. and will be laid on the Table of the Housfe. (e) to (g) Do not arise. 247 JULY 26, 1991 248 12.00 hrs. SHRI M. R. JANARTHANAN (Thirunelveli): It is a challenge to the [English] Constitution of India. (Interruptions) It is a question of life and death for MR. SPEAKER: Shri Dwarka the people of Tamil Nadu. (Interrup- Nath Das to speak. tions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please go to your seats first. MR. SPEAKER: One after the other. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER^ Please take your seats first. Well, I have decided to SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKA- allow you to express your views; but RA MURTHY (Kanakapura): I am you can do it one after the other. You on a point of order. (Interruptions) cannot do it at one and the same time. I have called out the name of one gentleman. One hon. Member SHRI K. V. THANGKABALU from here will speak first and then (Dharmapuri): This is a very impor- I will call out your names also. Shri tant and a sensitive issue. (Interrup- Dwarka Nath Das. tions) SHRI DWARKA NATH DAS MR. SPEAKER: I will come to (Karim Ganj): Sir, the working of you later on. the Post and Telegraph system is in a bad state in Barak valley of Assam. (Interruptions) May be it is due to shortage of staff or may be for other reasons. For ex- SHRI K. V. THANGKABALU: ample, one letter takes at least eight The Government of Karnataka has to ten days specially in rural areas issued an ordinance which is very much to cover a distance of 50 kms. Some- against the Constitution of India. (In- times telegrams are sent just like or- terruptions) It is very important. dinary post cards because it is a com- Tamil Nadu People are suffering a lot. mon feature that most of the time the This is a very serious matter. (Inter- telegraph line remains dead, not to ruptions) We demand from the Prime sneak of telephone whose working is Minister that he should come with a the worst at present. statement. (Interruptions) It is unfor- tunate that a ordinance is issued Will the hon. Minister of Commu- against the Constitution of India. nications be pleased to look into the They have no right to issue a such condition of this svstem in Barak ordinance. We want a statement valley soon, particularly that of Karim from the Prime Minister today. We Gani District of Assam in these res- want a firm reply from the Govern- pects?. ment now. (Interruptoim) SHRI ANBARASU ERA: Sir, MR. SPEAKER: Do you not want yesterday the Karnataka Govern- finy response? ment...... tInterruptions)...... (Interruptions) SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKA- RA MURTHY (Kanakapura): Sir, I SHRI ANBARASU ERA (Madras am on a point of order. (Interruptions) Central): Promulgation of this ordi- nance is unconstitutional. (Interrup- MR. SPEAKER: All of you please tions) take your seats. I have said that -I t o® 249 SRAVANA 4/1913 (SAKA) 25Q allow you to speak and I will allow The Chief Minister of Karnataka is you also to speak. Everything you playing a political gimmick to conso- are doing at this point of time is out of lidate his position. The people of order. It is not according to order Karnataka are very good. He should and that is why you cannot raise points honour the Award. The Central Gov- of order at this point of time. ernment should immediately intervene and give directions to the Government SHRI ANBARASU ERA: The of Karnataka to obey the Award, to Karnataka Government yesterday pro- honour the Award and to allow the mulgated an ordinance. people of Tamilnadu to get water. (Interruptions) SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKA- RA MURTHY: I am on a point of SHRI D. K. NAIKAR (Dharwad, order and I want your ruling Sir. No North): Sir, the statement made by State subject can be discussed here. the hon. Member from Tamilnadu is He is creating a bad precedent. in respect of the ordinance issued by the State Government of Karnataka. SHRI ANBARASU ERA: They Sir, you are aware that under the fede- have created a bad precedent. They ral structure of the Constitution, a cannot challenge the authority of the State has the power to legislate, in Government by nullifying the Cauvery respect of matters listed in the State Waters Dispute Tribunal’s interim List and the Concurrent List. Now order. The Ordinance promulgated by that ordinance—whatever may be its the Karnataka Government is uncon- effect, either on the order of the tri- stitutional and illegal. It is an attempt bunal or otherwise—cannot be dis- to nullify the interim order of the tri- cussed on the Floor of this House. bunal and to prevent Tamilnadu to get So, ordinance or legislation of the water. It is an open challenge to the State cannot be discussed here. It is authority of this Government. (Inter- an independent authority. (Interrup- ruptions) tions) No reference can be made to the ordinance or legislation. (Interrup- tions) MR. SPEAKER: You please sit down. This is not the way and I will allow you also to speak. SHRI ANBARASU ERA: The ordinance itself is illegal and uncon- (Interruptions) stitutional. (Interruptions) SHRI ANBARASU ERA: Sir, for 22 years, discussions were going SOME HON. MEMBERS: No. on, but nothing has come out of that. (Interruptions) Therefore, hereafter there shall be no negotiations. I demand that the Central Government and the Prime Minister should immediately Intervene SHRI D, K. NAIKAR: A referen- in the matter and find out a solution ce has been allowed to be made in for that. (Interruptions) this House now. So, I seek your rul- ing on this as to whether the ordinance MR. SPEAKER: Only what Shri can be discussed here or not. (Inter- Anbarasu says, goes on record. ruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Naikar, it may be very difficult for you to have SHRI ANBARASU ERA: Sir, a ruling from me. You please sit down. they should honour the Award of the Tribunal. One more thing is fhe£e. (Interruptions) 17 -15 LSS/ND/91 251 JULY 26, 1991 252 [Translation] the Central Government to come out with a statement in this regard. {Inter- SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA ruptions) (South Delhi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, what does Central Government want? (Interruptions) In one of the States their supporting party is in power and [English] in the other state, their own party is in power. Sir, it is a very serious mat- SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKA- ter. (Interruptions) RA MURTHY: I know how the highest forum of democracy was func- [English] tioning all these days. It is the right SHRI K. V. THANGKABALU: of any State Government to issue or Mr. Speaker, Sir, the very ordinance promulgate an ordinance. Whether it of the Karnataka Government is ille- is right or wrong, it cannot be discuss- gal and it is unconstitutional. It is ed on the Floor of this House. We against the very interests of the Indian have maintained this tradition; we Constitution itself. One State cannot have maintained this convention. But, issue an ordinance against the Central it is most unfortunate today that we Government So, I am afraid, whether have allowed some hon. Members of the Karnataka Government is within the other State to speak. We should the Union of India or not. A Consti- not have done that. We have opened tutional question arises today. Another the flood-gates and we have created thing is that the interim Award of a bad orecedent. (Interruptions) We the Tribunal is issued in favour of should be very careful. (Interruptions) Tamilnadu and is valid according to the Constitution. After tfte direction SHRI ANBARASU ERA: He is from the Court, the Award was pass- misleading the House: misleading the ed; the Award must -be totally accept- facts and mis-interpreting the facts. ed by the Central Government. I It is not true. (Interruptions) An or- seek the indulgence of the Central dinance could be issued onlv on a Government and the Prime Minister State S^biect and not on a Central to come out with a statement in this Subject. The\ State Government has resard. I also demand from the Cen- no business to issue an ordinance on tral Government, to pass an order this subject. (Interruptions) directing the State Government of Karnataka to release w*ter immedia- te^ as ner the interim Award of the SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KU- Tribunal. MAR (Mangalore): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the relevant question is that the mat- T seek your indulgence and I demand ter is now pendinr before the Tribu- this from the Government, through nal. The Tribunal is seized of the vou. Sir. The Prime Minister matter. The Tribunal has passed an must come out with a statement since interim order. In fa^t, the Tribunal it h a serious matter and thousands has no right to oass any s^ch order. and thousands of neonle of Tamilnadti In the history of any such Tribunal 'are suffering because of this. (Interrup- constituted so far, such order has ever tions) been passed. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKA- RA MUFTHY (Kanakapura): Mr. The holding capacity put together Sneaker, Sir, I had the privilege of for all the reservoirs constructed bv being in this House since 1977. \Inter- the State of Karnataka is only 120 ruptiom) TMC whereas the Tribunal by its \Translatiori\ interim order has directed the Karna- taka State to ensure presence of 205 SHRI MADAN LAL KHURA- TMC of water in Mettur dam. It is NA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, please direct highly impossible and not practicable. 253 SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) 254 In Karnataka, we are now growing every State’s problems should be look- only one dry ciop by making use of ed into objectively and a solution tne Cauvery water wtiereas in Tamil should be arrived at. Therefore, I ap- Nadu, they are growing three paddy peal to all sections of the House that crops in a year. (Interruptions) we should look into this matter from that point of view. SHRI K. V. THANGKABALU: You do not know A, B, C, D of I request through you that the Hon. Tamil Nadu. (Interruptions) Prime Minister should immediately convene a meeting of the Inter-State SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KU- Council, sit with them for this matter MAR: There is no drinking water immediately so that a solution is found for greater Bangalore city. The people out. Mutual recrimination will not of greater Bangalore dty are sulfenng help. Every State has its problems. due to shortage of drinking water. So, Therefore, on the floor of the House, my submission is that the ordinance we shall be only trading charges or issued today by the Government of accusations. I am sure, the Hon. Karnataka is well within the provisions Members would not impute any mo- of the Constitution. Any elected Gov- tives to anybody. But in view of the ernment will have to come to the res- demands of the States, it is bound to cue of the people of the State. The arise. The feelings will be more inten- Government of Karnataka has done sified. Therefore, this is an important the right thing. matter. I hope you will make an ob- servation so that the Prime Minister immediately responds. The Central Government must take interest. It must see that whatever dis- pute is there, it should be amicably [Translation] resolved. It must, call both the par- ties for negotiations. They should sit SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi across the table and come to an ami- Nagar): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I under- cable settlement so that such problems stand that it is but natural that the do not arise hereafter anywhere in the Member representing a particular State country. So, my submission is that would keep the interest of his state whatever has been done by the Kar- in mind while expressing his views. nataka Government is correct. And As such the hon. Members from Tamil Nadu were very much excited it cannot be questioned now here. yesterday and today the hon. Mem- bers belonging to both the States SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- Tamil Nadu and Karnataka are pre- JEE (Bolpur): Sir, yesterday, Mr. senting their view-points. We had Saifuddin Choudhury raised this mat- been expecting the Prime Minister ter. When the banah has been called since yesterday to take initiative in in both the States, this is a matter this regard and find some way to re- wnicn should be amicably settled. solve this tangle so that the call for But it is very unfortunate I am not bandhs in Tamil Nadu as well as in blaming any Hon. Member or any Karnataka would have been aban- State because obviously the feelings are doned. running high. Therefore, it was essen- tial that the Government should have Mr. Speaker, Sir, the issue raised taken note of the matter which was today that such an ordinance is raised yesterday. The Prime Minister against the Centre is not correct in is expected to have called a meeting. my opinion but the Central Govern- There is an Inter-State Council now. ment should clarify the position. The Inter-State Council should be The hon. Members from Tamil Nadu called. That is the proper forum for and Karnataka cannot make a state- all these questions to be resolved ami- ment cm this matter. I agree with cably. We want a united India where the views expressed by Shri Somnath 255 JULY 26, 1991 Chatterjee and I understand that in- request the Central Government to stead of raising this issue in this come forward immediately and inter- august House, the Congress Party vene to solve the problem. The mis- should take it up in its party forum take done is that the Central Govern- and the Prime Minister should invite ment did not notify the award in the the Chief Ministers of both the States Central Gazette. When we announ- for a dialogue and come to an ami- ced a bandh, they announced a cable settlement. coimtev-bandhr Then, all of a sud- den, the promulgation of the ordi- SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN nance came as a shock to us. Do (Rosera): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I you want Tamil Nadu to go the fully agree with the proposal and sen- ULFA and Punjab way? But we timents expressed by Shri Somnath do not want to become like Punjab Chatterjee. Whenever the issue of and ULFA because we are Tamilians. a state is raised it is quite obvious We are for united India and it should on the part of the hon. Members be Union of India. It should not from that State to express their con- be United States of India. I would cern. If they talk about their rights like to ask the hon. Members from it is nothing wrong. However, it Karnataka as to whether India is is for the Government to ensure that going to be Union of India or United all the States in India should enjoy States of India. Sir, they have built equal rights, because all of them have 28 reservoirs even without the clea- equal rights. As such the proposal rance of the Central Government. to convene a meeting of the Inter- Therefore, I plead with the hon. State Council has been made. We Prime Minister to come forward to would also urge the Prime Minister solve the issue. Otherwise, it will to convene a meeting and resolve this lead to untold chaos between so many issue. Allegations and Counter alle- linguistic castes which cannot be sub- gations cannot solve the problem. dued by the people of Tamil Nadu. So, the Prime Minister must come [English] forward and notify the award in the Central Gazette and the award should SHRI M. R. JANARTHANAN be honoured. Our brothers from (Tirunelveli): Mr. Speaker Sir, the Karnataka must also come forward august House must understand that to honour the award which is also the people of Tamil Nadu were nego- necessary. Only then, we can hold tiating for the past 20 years. So talks. Sir, this is our only request many negotiations were there but to you. they turned futile and they gave us no fruits. Afterwards, just a year SHRI P. G. NARAYANAN (Gobi- back, it was left to the Tribunal chettipalayam): Mr. Speaker, Sir, which happened after a very long the Supreme Court held that the Tri- time Even now, if the Karnataka bunal has powers to pass interim Government is not accepting or order. On the direction of the Sup- honouring the award, then it is a reme Court, the Tribunal has passed disgrace to the people of Tamil Nadu. the interim order. It is a judicial It is not only a disgrace to us but we forum which has been constituted by cannot tolerate it also. Cauvery the Government of India on the direc- basin is the only rice basin for six tion of the Supreme Court, in accor- crores of Tamilians. Tanjore dis- dance to the Inter-State Water Dis- trict is wholly dependent on the Cau- putes Act, 1956. Now, the Kar- very basin. An hon. Member from nataka Government had issued an Karnataka said that we are growing ordinance to nullify the order of the three crops in a year. Sir, this is Tribunal. Has is violative of the not a fact. Sir, if Tanjore goes dry Constitution. As per Tamil Nadu’s without water in the Cauvery river, requirements and legitimate right of then Tamil Nadu will become ano- Tamil Nadu, we require more than tjier Sahara desfert Therefore, I 300 TMC of water for one year. But 257 SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) 258 we have accepted the order of the the Prime Minister to come before Tribunal just to obey the order of this House and make a statement. the Tribunal. But the Government of Karnataka is not above law. It is SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA not functioning in accordance with (Andaman-Nicobar): Over the last the law and it goes against the Cons- few days, a lot has been said about titution. So, the Prime Minister the killing of innocent -Sikh pilgrims should intervene at this stage and in Pilibhit. After this matter was issue an executive directive as per raised in this House, it was agreed article 256 of the Constitution. by the Government that the Home Minister would make a statement in SHRI S. B. SIDNAL (Belgaum): this connection. But I am sorry to Sir, every State would like to pass a say that no statement has yet been legislation or issue an ordinance to made. Along with other members, protect their own interest. Accor- I personally visited Pilibhit. We dingly, what the Karnataka Govern- have seen that it was an absolutely ment had done is justified. But if, cold-blooded murder of the Sikh pil- as Mr. Somnath Chatterjee has said grims by the police...(Interruptions) just now in the House, the Prime I do not know why Shri Khurana is Minister intervenes and call the In- getting agitated. On 29th June, terstate Council, then I think, it these pilgrims went to Patna Saheb, will be acceptable to both the parties Karnataka and Maharashtra and and they can come together to hold while returning, they were apprehen- talks. ded in a bus on the 13th July. They were taken out of the bus and they SHRI K. RAMAMURTHEE TIN- were killed in a fake encounter...(In- DIVANAM (Tindivanam): Both terruptions). the Government of Karnataka and the Government of Tamil Nadu are MR. SPEAKER: Please sit parties before the Cauvery Water down. I allowed you to make your Dispute Tribunal. The Tribunal’s point. Now please sit down. order was given in spite of the Gov- ernment of Karnataka questioning the tribunal’s authoity before the SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- Supreme Court. The Tribunal has TA : * (Interruptions)* given the interim order on the direc- tion of the Supreme Court. So, the MR. SPEAKER: This will not Tribunal’s order is binding on both go on record. You cannot continue Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. But, like that. Please sit down. when the order has been given, the Government of Karnataka has now [Translation] come forward with an ordinance, which nullifies the very order of the SHRI CHANDUBHAI DESH- Supreme Court and the Tribunal. MUKH (Bharuch): Mr. Speaker, The State Government has disobeyed Sir, the law and order situation in the orders of the Supreme Court and Gujarat is deteriorating day by day the Tribunal and this should be view- and has reached a point as if there ed very seriously. is no Government functioning there. The crowd of two thousand people Apart from this, we the people of in Baroda town surrounded the police Tamil Nadu are the sufferers. Inter- station, pelted stones and created a state discussions can take place at any fury. In this incident ten persons time, but our sufferings must be were killed and fifteen injured. taken into account now itself. The Similar is the state of affairs in Bha- Government of India should take it ruch. Five or six persons succumbed very seriously and I want to request to their injuries, people are being kii- *Not recorded. 259 JULY 26, 1991 260 led and a police constable was also Government that a special task force murdered. The situation in the en- should be set up with the assistance tire Gujarat State has gone from of the State Government and try to bad to worse. I request the Govern- curb this growing menance so that ment through you that the efforts the people of these areas may feel should be made to improve the situa- secure. tion. . .(iInterruptions) PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT [English] (Ajmer): Through you, 1 would like to urge upon the Government SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV that the terrorist activities in Jammu (Azamgarh): Sir, I am on a point and Kashmir, Punjab and Assam of order. should be dealt with strongly and the Government should give up the poli- MR. SPEAKER: There is no cy of appeasement. point of order. Please sit down. (Interruptions) During the last few weeks, the Government had to hold prolonged MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. talks with the extremists in a bid to 1 have called Shri Brinesh Patel... secure release of Shri Doraiswamy in Kashmir and the persons kidnapped (.Interruptions)* by ULFA extremists in Assam and in the process the Government had to ac- MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will cept the various odd conditions laid go on record. I have allowed Shri down by the extremist and terrorist Patel...... (Interruptions) elements. This has brought the Gov- ernment to ridicule as Government surrendered and bowed down before MR. SPEAKER: Only what the anti social elements. Conse- Shri Patel speakes, will go on record. quently the traitors and terrorists feel emboldened and they have not (Interruption#) kept their word and are making English fresh demands every day. It is creat- [ ] ing a sense of distress and disillu- SHRI BRISHIN PATEL: Sir, sionment among (he para millitary my name is Brishin Patel, not Bri- forces. In this way, they are being nesh Patel. demoralised. Hence the Govern- ment should discard this policy of MR. SPEAKER: I will learn appeasement and' should curb these your name correctly. secessionist forces by adopting a firm attitude. This will enable the [Translation] Government to win the public faith and dispel the wrong notions created SHRI BRISHIN PATEL (Siwan): in the minds of the people. Mr. Speaker, Sir, incidents of kidnap- ping are being reported from Deoria SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: in Uttar Pradesh and also from Betia, The Government should come out Motihari and Gopalganj areas of with a statement informing whether Bihar. These abductors are known Shri Doraiswamy is alive or dead. as Jungle party. Through you I would like to inform the Central [English] Government that thousands of people were kidnapped and out of them SHRI ANNA JOSHI (Pune): Sir, many have lost their lives. As such two Division-, *Not recorded. 261 SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) 262 ed; one at Nagpur (Vidarbha) and SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA; This other at Aurangabad (Marathwara). murder also, as I have been told 20.000 cases arising from the districts over the telephone after enquiry by of Pune, Sholapur, Satara. Kolhapur the Government, has been to avenge and Nopar are pending in Bombay the electoral defeat of the Congress High Court. There is an urgent need Party, to teach the poor muslims a to establish a Division Bench at Pune lesson, who in majority, did not to sort out the cases arising out of vote for the Congress Party. the Western Maharashtra. There- fore I appeal to the Government to I wish that the Government of India take immediate steps in this regard. should hold an Inquiry on this issue. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: (Madhubani): Last night I got What is your State Government doing some information from my constitu- there ? (Interruptions) ency that during the Muharram pro- cession four persons were killed; three SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: of them were Muslims and the other Law and order is a State subject. one was a Scheduled Caste Chowki- drr. According to my information SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Any- this was not a communal problem. way I wish that the Government I will not go into the details of it should make a statement so that this just now. Three persons were shot may not take a communal turn. dead by the police. Just a few days My apprehension is that this may ago, on 12th June, seven persons take a communal turn. That is why were killed in the same area; five of I am requesting the Government to them were again Muslims. All the make a statement (Interruptions) seven persons killed; were poor peo- ple and in this case also the Chowki- dar and the other four persons k^led SHRI S. MALLIKARJUNAIAH were poor people. On 12th of June (Tumkur): K^bini-which is there all those people were killed by the in the Mysore City of Karnataka—is gundas hired by the Congress candi- full of water. On both sides of the date He was the famous oerson.* river, a number of coconut, areca- the then Chief Minister. This time nut and sugarcane gardens are there. also.. .(Interruptions) There is an apprehension that the Kabini reservoir may be breached or SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJES- damaged at any time. WARI (Bell^ry): He has men- tioned the name of a person who is The Government of Karnataka is not present in the House to defend also receiving a number of threaten- himself. It should be expunged. ing letters. So, I would like to draw the attention of the Government that SHRI P. M. SAYEED (Lakshad- they should give proper protection to weep): The name should not go the reservoir. In the absence of it, on record. (Interruptions) thousands and thousands of people will be washed away and damage MR. SPEAKER: The name that will be caused to the standing crops. he has mentioned will not form part Therefore, I request the Govern- of the record. ment to take appropriate steps in this regard. (Interruptions) SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sambalpur is hav- (Deogarh): It should not go on ing a Doordarshan Relay Centre with jrecord. limited recording and production *Not recorded. 263 JULY, 26 1991 264 facility. It was the first place in big industry should be set up there Orissa to figure in the Doordarshan so that the people may lead a pros- map of India under the Satellite perous life. scheme in early seventies. Since then, there is a growing demand SHRI TARA CHAND KHAN- for establishment of a full-fledged DELWAL (Chandni Chowk): Mr. Doordarshan Kendra with necessary Speaker, Sir, through you I would studio facility there. But instead like to invite the attention of the of fulfilling this long standing and Government and the concerned minis- genuine demand of that region—it is ter. This bottle in my hand...... a matter of surprise and regret—the authorities are stopping the present [English] arrangement of recording and produc- tion there. This is causing a serious MR. SPEAKER: You cannot resentment, discontentment and an- bring this. This is not allowed in guish among the people of (he region. the House. SHRI TARA CHAND KHAN- I would, therefore, request the DELWAL: This is not coloured Government of India to look into water. This is the samule of drink- this matter sympathetically and not ing water being supplied in many disturb the present arrangement and areas of my constituency, Chandni instead upgrade this as a full-fledged Chowk in Delhi. This water con- Doordarshan Kendra with modem tains so much filth. (Interruptions) studio facility there, as early ay possi- ble. MR. SPEAKER: You are not allowed to bring such items in the [Translation] House without permission. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHRI TARA CHAND KHAN- SHASTRI (Saidpur): Sir, through DELWAL: The people get black you I would like to invite the atten- water full of germs and filth to tion of the hon. Minister towards the drink. It is playing with the lives pitiable condition of the five crore of people. Thousands of people population living at Ghazipur, Jaun- have fallen ill due to this. What is pur, Balia and Azamgarh areas. the solution to the problem when the This area with a population of five Government or the Delhi Corpora- crore is a very backward area. Not tion fails to supply properly treated a single big industry exists in this water despite Repeated complaints? area. Long back in 1964 the Cen- tral Government had set up a Patel SHRI MADAN LAL KHU- Commission which submitted its re- RANA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would port stating that the biggest ordnance also like to say one thing about water. factory, aluminimum and paper in- (Interruptions) dustry should be set up in this area. Twenty five years have passed but SHRI TARA CHAND KHAN- the recommendations of the Patel DELWAL: I would like to make Commission are yet to be implemen- one more submission...{Interruptions) ted. Sir, kindly issue instructions If properly well treated water is not from your side to set up large indus- supplied, I shall sit here on dhama tries in these five-six districts of and resort to hunger-strike on Mon- ‘poorvanchal’ which has a popula- day. (Interruptions) tion of 5 crores. In the absence of industries in the area, the people go [English] to Calcutta and Bombay in search of their livelihood. On account of un- MR. SPEAKER: This is not employment, incidents of crimes are allowed. You should desist from increasing manifold. As such, some it. 265 SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) 266 SHRI SAIFUHDIN CHOUD- it is not further exploited in a very HURY (Katwa): We all know that bad way. thousands of people have migrated from the Kashmir Valley due to the You ask the Government. For situation that is * prevailing there. long, nobody has visited there from Now, it is more than one year. the Government side. I urge upon Many of them are in Jammu. Some the Government to arrange for an months ago—when we were on the All-Party delegation to visit there Committee on Kashmir Affairs—we and decide about what should be visited their camp." The situation done for them so that they could was very bad at that time. After lead a normal life. the passing of so many months, it has become worse. [T ranslatiori] SHRI MADAN LAL KHURA- A delegation of these people came NA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have also to DelJji and met us. They have given to you in writing that two and given a representation to us and ask- a half lakh hapless migrants have ed us to raise this issue in the House. migrated to Jammu, Delhi and other The Jammu & Kashmir Sahayata Samiti came to us. They made areas of the country during the last many demands. These are to be two years and out of them nine thou- sand and eight hundred have been looked into by the Government very provided accommodation, that too urgently. What are the demands? A commitment was made that there in tents and camps. Nine thosuand will be a semi-township for them in in Jammu and eight hundred in Jammu; and till they return to the Delhi have been provided accom- Valley, basic amenities will be pro- modation, as many as three fami- lies in one tent during the last two vided for them so that they live a years. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in Jammu, human life. fifty persons died of sun-stroke in summer. Now the rains have set in. Then there is a problem of educa- It will wash away all the tents. tion for their children. Then there Then there is a problem of educa- is a problem for the employees who tion of their children in schools and cannot go to the Valley and report colleges. People have broken open for duties. Then there is a problem the houses they left behind and en- for those employees who are on the tered into them. Their bank-accounts verge of retirement. How will have been seized. It seems that they be able to get the benefits of this Government too is apathetic to retirement and all that? The Ac- them. We have been making re- counts Offices are in the Valley. It quests to as many as three Prime is not their choice to come out of Ministers. We made requests in the the Valley. There are so many Ninth Lok Sabha, we also did so issues. during the Eighth Lok Sabha to at least visit their camps to see their The HMT employees have reached conditions there. Neither any Prime an agreement with the Home Minis- Minister nor any Union Minister vi- ter and the Management. Some of sited their camps either in Delhi or the political leaders were present in Jammu to see their conditions. there. It was committed that they This government has become so will be given salary and other ameni- apathetic. I want to know, where ties. But, now, they are only given is their Minorities Commission, 75 per cent of the basic pay plus D.A.; where is their Human Rights Com- and that too has been stopped after mission which can pay visit every- some time. Now, what is going to where $>ut cannot go, in their camps happen to all these things? It is a to loqjf into their conditions as to very -serious issue and it requires the; how they - have _ beeji mined and attention of the Government so that how their temples have been burnt 1£—15 LSS/ND/91 267 JULY 26, 1991 there. No one is ready to lookafter SHRI RAM KAIK (Bombay them, who are wandering as refu- North); Has this Government be- gees here and there in their own come dumb and deaf? Will it not say country for the last two years. Mr. anything? {Interruptions) Speaker, Sir, I request you to di- rect the Prime Minister or the Home THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- Minister to pay a visit to these pla- MENTARY AFFAIRS {SHRI ces himself to see their conditions. GHULAM NABI AZAD): Mr. Speaker, Sir, 1 had gone to Jammu a few days back. Our brothers have A cell must be constituted imme- migrated from Kashmir to Jammu, diately to solve their problems. Af- Delhi and other States of the coun- ter all, everything has a time-limit, try. This is certainly a matter of even there is a limit of tolerance. great sorrow. {Interruptions) They are leading an infernal life for the last two years. I request to the SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Has Government to have mercy on them he visited their camps? {Interrupt and find out an immediate solution tiom) to provide relief to them. SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: Yes, I did. I have had a long dis- SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi cussion with their delegations also. Nagar): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the issue This is a very serious matter ...(/n- raised just now from this side has terruptions) Please listen to me at some specific implications, so we least. This is serious and worrisome want to know Government’s response. indeed for the whole country. The So far as employees are concerned, happenings in Kashmir cause disap- there are many employees of the pointment in the whole country. The Central Government Undertakings condition of the migrants, whether also. This is a very serious situation they are Hindus or Muslims or be- if the written agreement reached long to other religions, living in with them is not implemented. Dur- the tents is miserable. They are liv- ing the last some days the represen- ing in miserable condition in Delhi tatives of the Defence employees, and Jammu. Actually, they are working in the civil side, met me. not acclamatbed with the he^t. They demanded that the agreement Just a month has gone by since reached with the H.M.T. should be this Government assumed office. applicable to them also. In this While our fri&nds were there in the context, I am surprised to find that previous Government which lasted the Government has made several for one and a half year. So, it is statements in relation to the econo- not rorrect to say that we did no- mic situation and in relation to the thing for them as the previous Gov- problems of various sections- of the ernment alco did nothing even in population during the last days but one and half year. not a single word about this section, of the population has been stated by them either in the Budget or in the SHRI MADAN LAL KHURA- Budget speech or in the economic NA: Only assurances were given. survey. Nothing has been said about them as if this two and a half lakh SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: population just does not exist at all. How co^ld you expect everything This is a matter of great sorrow. I from this Government just in 20 days hope the Government will react to whereas they did nothing in one and the submissions made by this side. half year. There are many other se- The Government should make it rious issues and problems before the clear as to what step It would take (fovernment. I would like to tell about the feelings expressed from this for his information that Shri Rajiv side. Gandhi had formed a Committee 269 SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) 270 under A.I.C.C. through which we MR. SPEAKER: No. In case sent tents for them. (Interruptions) you do not allow anyone to speak, We made full efforts even being in 1 shall not allow you. opposition. (.Interruptions) (Interruptions) We listened to him silently, when he was 'speaking. Let me speak [English] please. Ealier, they were asking me to speak. And now when I am SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: speaking, they are not ready to lis- Sir, let me assure the hon. Members ten to me. If he is speaking just for that this Government is much more the newspapers, let him speak co- concerned than any other political tinuously for two years {Interrupt party as far as the refugees of Kash- mir are concerned. This Govern- tions) ment will try to do its utmost for their rehabilitation.. .(Interruptions) SHRI B.L. SHARMA *‘PREM’ You could not do it for the last one (East Delhi): They can send two and a half years. How do you ex- thousand units of blood to Saddam pect us to do it in just twenty days? H ssain but they cannot send even You were a part and parcel of the ragged blankets for the people of then Government. Kashmir. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF [Translation] THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE SHRI MADAN LAL KHURA- TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH NA (South Delhi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, TYTLER): We had not sent blood, the hon. Minister should at least nor shall we do that now. inform the House whether the Gov- [English] ernment intends to send a delega- tion there or not. The Govemmem SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cut- should at least inform as to what it tack): Is the Minister responding as intends to do about this problem. a Minister or on behalf of the Con- (Interruptions) gress Party ?.. {Interruptions). SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- I have come here because of the Con- JEE (Bolpur): Sir, the Minister is gress Party. I first belong to the creating unnecessary provocation. Congress Party and then I am a Mini- He is talking about the last one and ster for your information...(Interrup- a half years. Who supported Shri tions) Chandrasekhar’s Government? [Translation] # THE MINISTER OF STATE OF MR. SPEAKER: You have rais- THE MINISTRY OF COM- ed an important issue, so let him MERCE (SHRI P. CHIDAMBA- complete. RAM): Who supported Shri . V. P. Sing’s Government?.. .(Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- MR. SPEAKER: You will not JE E : Is this a party matter? raise again and again. Discussion Why do you make it a party matter? cannot go on in this way. Please do not do that SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOT- SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: RI (Jhansi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, How can you expect us to do it in Please listen to me at least. twenty days 1 ...(Interruptions) m JULY 26, 1991 272 [Translation] {English} The allegation that their houses have SHRI BASU DEB ACHAR1A been broken into is totally baseless. (Bankura): The Government of In- I completely disagree with it. You dia constituted a National Industrial should rise above party level. Their Tribunal to examine ‘equal pay for houses are fully protected. You equal work’ for the employees of have alleged that temples are being the regional rural banks of our destroyed there. I haven’t read country. This Tribunal gave its about anything like this anywhere. award on 30-4-1990. After one It is baseless. year, the Government issued the or- der to implement the award of this National Industrial Tribunal. This order of the Government for the im- [English] plementation of the award is a par- tial one. The Tribunal categorical- Please do not make it a political ly stated that the officers and em- issue. I agree that they are our bro- ployees will be entitled to claim pa- thren and they should be treated rity with the officers and employees well as much as possible. Please do of such banks in the matter of pay not make it a political issue. scales, allowances and benefits and that the award shall be given effect [Translation] from September 1, 1987 with further direction that RRB employees will be entitled to claim all allowances That people have broken into their and benefits as per State Govern- homes and that their temples are be- ment rules upto August 1987. A re- ing destroyed, are groundless allega- cent order has been issued by the tions. I do not agree with it. {In- Government which is a clear devia- terruptions) tion from the award of the National Industrial Tribunal. So hundreds of employees of RRBs are demons- SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: You trating at the Boat Club today. They see, so far as facts are concerned, are demanding that the award of whether it be about the destruction the National Industrial Tribunal of temples or of breaking into hou- should be implemented in toto and ses, the hon. Members are free to there should be no deviation. The re- raise them. However, I am happy cent order issued by the Government because the Government has at which is a deviation from the award least given an assurance that neces- of the National Industrial Tribunal, sary steps would be taken for their should be withdrawn and the award relief and rehabilitation. I had rais- should be implemented in toto, ed a specific issue that the assurances % given to the H.M.T. employees, the [Translation] State Government employees and the civilian employees of the Defence Mi- SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Mr. nistry, have not been fulfilled so far. Speaker, Sir, the entire country is con- I have got a memorandum with me cerned about the recent acquisition which gives details about their pro- of M -ll Missiles,by Pakistan. Ten- blems. I would like to know the sion has gripped the border areas, Government’s response to it. especially after hearing the reply given by the hon. Defence Minister in the Rajya Sabha, yesterday, in this SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD: regard. According to him the said If any assurance has been given, if Missiles can inflict heavy damages any agreement has been entered into, and cause immense destruction in Ra- then we shall certainly endeavour to jasthan, Punjab, Haryana, Himachal fulfil it. Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir. 273 SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Papers Laid 274 My humble submission is that the ment Authority for the overall deve- hon. Minister should inform the Lok lopment of Lakshadweep and Anda- Sabha also whether the lives of the mans. Now, the first casualty of this people living in the border areas, in- Government was this Island Develop- cluding Rajasthan, are safe, now ment Authority. ...(Interruptions) The that Pakistan has acquired these lethal result was a total standstill of the M -ll missiles. As a question raised development of the Lakshadweep. during the zero hour, I would like to Now, as you know, an underground know from the hon. Minister of De- organisation is also functioning there fence as to how these border areas as the Lakshadweep Liberation Front. would be protected if Pakistan choses Employment opportunities are in an to use these missiles. acute shortage. Therefore, I request- ed the hon. Prime Minister also to [English] revive the Island Development Au- thority so that things can be taken on SHRIMATI * BASAVA RAJES- a war footing. I request the Go- WARI: Sir, I would like to draw the vernment to come forward with a attention of the Government through revival of this Island Development the Speaker regarding the matter of Authority. great urgency that the Government has slashed coal supplies to industries in western and southern India by over 50% severely hitting the major coal consuming industries in Maharashtra, Gujarat, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and 13.02 hrs. parts of Madhya Pradesh and Rajas- than. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Merchant Shipping Amendment Roles, The drastic cut which was to the 1991 Annual Report of and Review extent of 70% from the allotted quota in January and somewhat eased to on the working of the Indian Road Construction Corporation Ltd. etc. 20% by the end of June has put the cement, rayon, textile and heavy che- micals industries in a very critical THE MINISTER OF STATE IN position. This is specially so in the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE western region. (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): On behalf of Shri Jagdish Tytler, I Sir, despite the policy of maintain- beg to lay on the Table— ing regular coal supply to the core industries, such as steel, fertilisers and (1) A copy of the Merchant Shipp- cement, the private sector units in the ing (Tonnage Measurement of core segment have been left out of Ships) Amendment Rules, 1991 the priority list. (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. Sir, the situation in Karnataka due G.S.R. 84(E) in Gazette of to the cut in coal supply has virtually India dated the 21st February, affected almost all the industries. 1991 under sub-section (3) of Therefore, I urge the Government to section 458 of the Merchant take immediate steps for restoring the Shipping Act, 1958. full quota for coal supply to Karna- [Placed in Library. See No. LT* taka particularly to Raichur Thermal 135/91} Plant. , SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Late (2) A copy each of the following Rajiv ji, after his first visit to Laksha- papers (Hindi and English ver- dweep, constituted an Island Develop- sions) under sub-section (1) of 275 Papers Laid JULY 26, 1991 Papers Laid 276 section 619 A of the Companies 18th August, 1990 declar- Act, 1956:- ing Messrs Kanchi Mutual Benefit Fund Limited, (i) Review by the Govern- Madras, to be a ‘Nidhi\ ment on the working of the Indian Road Construc- ( i v ) G.S.R. 515 published in tion Corporation Limited, Gazette of India dated the New Delhi, for the year 18th August, 1990 declar- 1989-90. ing Messrs Thirumanga- (ii) Annual Report of the lam Janopakara Perman- Indian Road Construction ent Fund Limited, Mad- Corporation Limited, New ras, to be a ‘Nidhi*. Delhi, for the year 1989- 90 alongwith Audited Ac- (v) G.S.R. 782 published in counts and comments of Gazette of India dated the the Comptroller and Au- 29th December, 1990 de- ditor General thereon. claring Messrs Gilnagar Benefit Fund Limited, (3) A statement (Hindi and English Madras, to be a ‘Nidhi’. versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers men- (vi) G.S.R. 783 published in tioned at (2) above. Gazette of India dated the 29th December, 1990 de« [Placed in Library. See No. LT- daring Messrs the Kerala, 136/91] Permanent Fund Limited, Ernakulam, to be a ‘Nidhi'. Notification under Companies Act (vii) G.S.R. 784 published in 1956 etc. Gazette of India dated the 29th December, 1990 de- THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- claring Messrs Sreevari MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI GHU- Benefit Society Limited, LAM NABI AZAD): On behalf of Madras, to be a ‘Nidhi’. Shri Rangarajan Kumaramangalam, I beg to lay on the Table— U) A copy of the Cost Accounting Records (Mini Steel Plant) (1) A copy each of the following Rules, 1990 (Hindi and English Notifications (Hindi and En- versions) published in Notifi- glish versions) under section cation No. G.S.R. 574 in Ga- 620A of the Companies Act, zette of India dated the 23rd 1956:— August, 1990 under sub-sec- (i) S.O. 3052 published in tion (3) of section 642 of the Gazette of India dated the Companies Act, 1956. 17th November, 1990 de- claring Messrs St. Mary's (3) A copy of the Punjab Horticul- Funds Limited, Piravom, ture Corporation Limited and to be a ‘Nidhi’. Punjab Agro Industries Cor- in) G.S.R. 241 published in poration Limited (Amalgama- Gazette of India dated the tion) Order, 1989 (Hindi and 21st April, 1990 declaring English versions) published in the Fairdeal Investment Notification No. S.O. 605(E) in Mutual Benefit (India) Li- Gazette of India dated the 2nd mited, New Delhi, to be a August, 1989 under section 396 *Nidhi\ of the Coitqitnies Act, 1956. (m) G.S.R. 514 published in [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Gazette of India dated the 137/91} 277 Papers Laid SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Papers Laid 278 Life Insurance Corporation of India ed in Gazette of India class III and class IV employees (Pro- dated the 16th February, motion) (Amendment) Rules, 1991. 1991 containing corrigen- Notifications under Banking Com- dum to the Hindi version panies (Acquisition and transfer of of the Notification No. 50 undertakings) Act, 1970 etc. dated the 15th December, 1989. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (iii; The Union Bank of India THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Officer Employees’ (Con- (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): I beg to duct) Amendment Regula- lay on the Table— tions, 1990 published in Notification No. CO/IRD/ (1) A copy of the Life Insurance 1193/90 dated the 10th Corporation of India Class III March, 1990. and Class IV employees (Pro- motion) (Amendment) Rules, (iv) The United Bank of India 1991 (Hindi and English ver- Officei Employees’ (Con- sions) Dublished in Notifica- duct) (Amendment) Regu- tion No. G.S.R. 229(E) in lations, 1989 published in Gazette of India dated the Notification No. 2/90 dat- 23rd April, 1991 under sub- ed the 6th April, 1991. section (3) of section 48 of the [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Life Insurance Corooration 140/91] Act, 1956. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- (4) A copy of the Vijaya Bank 138/91] Officer Employees’ (Conduct; First Amendment Regulations, (2) A copv of the Notification No. 1990 (Hindi and English ver- 2/19/89-NS.II (Hindi and sions) published in Notification English versions) published in No. 1377 in Gazette of India Gazette of India dated the 23rd dated the 18th August, 1990 April, 1991 making certain under sub-section (4) of section amendments to Notification 19 of the Banking Companies No. 2/19/89-NS.II dated the (Acquisition and Transfer of 12th December, 1990. Undertakings) Act, 1980. [Phred in Library. See No. LT- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 139/91] 141/91] (5) A copy of the Annual Report (3) A copy each of the following (Hindi and English versions) Notifications (Hindi and En- of the Deposit Insurance and glish versions) under sub-sec- Credit Guarantee Corporation, tion (4) of section 19 of the Bombay, for the year 1990-91 Banking Companies (Acquisi- along with Audited Accounts tion and Transfer of Under- rnder sub-section (2) of section takings) Act, 1970: — 32 of the Deposit Insurance (i) The Syndicate Bank Offi- and Credit Guarantee Corpora- cer Employees’ (Conduct) tion Act, 1961. (Amendment) Regulations, [Placed in Library. See No. LT• 1989 published in Notifi- 142/91] cation No. 1126/S/0090/ PDflRDfO) in Gazette of (6) A copy each of the following India dated the 16th De- Annual Reports (Hindi and cember, 1989. English versions):— (ii) Notification No. 75/AS (i) Report of the Aligarh Gra- 0090/KVOSP(A) publish- min Bank, Aligarh, for the 279 Papers Laid JULY 26, 1991 Papers Laid 280 Year ended the 31st (vh) Report of the Vidur Gra- March, 1991 together with min Bank, Bijnor, for the the Accounts and Audi- year aided the 31st March, tor’s ‘Report thereon. 1991 together with the [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Accounts and Auditor’s 143/91] Report thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. L T - (ii) Report of the Jamuna 149/91] Gramin Bank, Agra, for the year ended the 31st (viii) Report of the, Sultanpur March, 1991 together with Kshetriya Gramin Bank, Accounts and Auditor’s Sultanpur, for the year Report thereon. ended the 31st March, 1991 together with Ac- [Placed in Library. See No. L T - counts and Auditor’s Re- 144/91] port thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- (iii) Report of the Valsad 150/91] Dangs Gramin Bank, Val- sad, for the year ended the 31st March, 1991 to- (ix) Report of the Yavatmal gether with the Accounts Gramin Bank, Yavatmal, and Auditor’s Report for the year ended the thereon. 31st March, 1991 together with Accounts and Audi- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- tor’s Report thereon. 145/91] [Placed in Library. See No. L T - 151/91] (iv) Report of the Bhagirath Gramin Bank, Sitapur, for (x) Report of the Chhatrasal the year ended the 31st Gramin Bank, Orai, for March, 1991 together with the year ended the 31st Accounts and Auditor’s March, 1991 together with Report thereon. Accounts and Auditor’s [Placed in Library. See No. L T - Report thereon. 146/91] [Placed in Library. See No. L T - 152/91] (v) Report of the Bikaner Kshetriya Gramin Bank, (xi) Report of the Etah Gra- Bikaner, for the year end- min Bank, Etah, for the ed the 31st Mkrch, 1991 year ended the 31st together with the Accounts March, 1991 together with and Auditor’s Report Accounts and Auditor’s thereon. Report thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 147/91] 153/91] (vi) Report of the Thane Gra- (xii) Report of the Sri Rama min Bank, Thane, for the Grameena Bank, Nizama- year ended the 31st March, bad, for the year ended 1991 together with Ac- the 31st M*rch, 1991 to- counts and Auditor’s Re- gether with (Accounts and port thereon. Auditor’s Report thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. L T - [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 148/91] 154/91] 281 Papers Laid SRAVANA 4,'1913 (SAKA) Piters Laid 2SZ (xiii) Report of the Sabarkantha Accounts and Auditor’s Gandhinagar Gramin - Report thereon. Bank, Himatnagar, for the [Placed in Library. See No. LT- year ended the 31st March, 1991 together with Ac- 160/91] counts and Auditor’s Re- (xix) Report of the Hissar Sirsa port thereon. Kshetriya Gramin Bank, [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Hissar, for the year ended 155/91] the 31st March, 1991 to- gether with Accounts and (xiv) Report of the Faizabad Auditor’s Report thereon. Kshetriya Gramin Bank, [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Faizabad, for the year en- 161/91} ded the 31st March, 1991^ together with Accounts (xx) Report of the Mewar Aan- and Auditor’s Report chalik Gramin Bank, thereon. Udaipur, for the year end- % ed the 31st March, 1991 [Placed in Library. See No. LT- together with Accounts 156/91] and Auditor’s Report thereon. (xv) Report of the Gurdaspur Amritsar Kshetriya Gra- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- min Vikas Bank, Gurdas- 162/91] pur, for the year ended the 31st March, 1991 to (xxi) Report of the Dungarpur gether with Accounts and Banswara Kshetriya Gra- Auditor’s Report thereon. min Bank, Dungarpur, for the ended the 31st March, [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 1991 together with Ac- 157/91] counts and Auditor’s Re- port thereon. (xvi) Report of the Oiitradurga [Plated in Library. See No. LT- Gramin Bank, Chitra- 163/91] dugra, for the year ended the 31st March, 1991 to- (xxii) Report of the Surat Bha- gether with Accounts and ruch Gramin Bank, Bha- Auditor’s Report thereon. ruch, for the year ended [Placed in Library. See No. LT- the 31st March, 1991 to- 158/91] gether with Accounts and Auditor’s Report thereon. (xvii) Report of the Murshida- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- bad Gramin Bank, Ber- 164/91] hampore, for the year rai- ded the 31st March, 1991 (xxiii) Report of the Muzaffar- together with Accounts nagar Kshetriya Gramin and Auditor’s Report Bank, Muzaffamagar, for thereon. the year ended the 31st March, 1991 together with [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Accounts and Auditor’s 159/91] Report thereon. [Placed kt Library. See No. LT- (xviii) Report of the Mandla Balaghat Kshetriya Gra- 165/Ql] min Bank, Mandla, for the year ended die 31st (7) A copy each of the following March, 1991 together with Reports (Hindi and English 19-15 LSS/ND/91 283- Papers Laid JULY 26, 1991 Papers Laid 284 versions) under Article 151(1) (ii) S.O. 89(E) published in Ga- of the Constitution:— zette of India dated (he 13tn February, 1991 together with (i) Report of the Comptroller an explanatory memorandum and Auditor General of regarding revised rate of ex- India for the year ended change- for conversion of Aus- the 31st March, 1990 (No. trian Schillings into Indian 9 of 1991)—Union Go- Currency or vice-versa. vernment (Defence Ser- vices—Air Force and (iii) S.O. 101(E) published in Ga- Navy). zette of India dated the 14th February, 1991 together with [Placed in Library. See No. LT- an explanatory memorandum 166/91) regarding revised rate of ex- change for conversion of Bel- _ (ii) Report of the Comptroller giam Francs into Indian Curen- and Auditor General of cy of vice-versa. India for the year ended the 31st March, 1990 (No. (iv) S.O. 128(E) published in Ga- 4 of 1991)—Union Go- zette of India dated the 25th vernment (Revenue Re- February, 1991 together with ceipts—Indirect Taxes). an explanatory memorandum regarding revised rate of ex- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- change for conversion of Sin- 167/91] gapiit Dollars into Indian Cur- rency or vice-versa. (iii) Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General of (Vj G.S.R. 65(E) published in Ga- India for the year ended zette of India dated the 13th the 31st March, 1990 (No. February, 1991 togethei with 7 of 1991)—Union Go- an exolanatory memorandum vernment (Posts and Tele- regarding revised rate of ex- communications). change for conversion of Rus- [Placed m Library. See No. LT• sian Rouble into Indian Cur- 168/91] rency or vice-versa. (vi) S.O. 144(E) published in Ga- Notifications under Customs Act, 1962 zette of India dated the 27th regarding revised rate of exchange etc. Febr 'aiy, 1991 together with an exnlanatory memorandum regarding revised rate of ex- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN change for conversion of Aus- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE tralian Dollars into Indian Cur- (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR): rency or vice-versa. I beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the following Notifications (Hindi (vii) S.O. 154(E) published in Ga- and English versions) under section zette of India dated the 4th 159 of the Customs Act, 1962:— March, 1991 together with an explanatory memorandum re- ange for conversion of Cana- (xv) G.S.R. 292(E) published in Ga- dian Dollars into Indian Cur- zette of India dated the 31st rency or vice-versa. May, 1991 together with an explanatory memorandum ma- (i*) G.S.R. 173(E) published in king certain . amendments to Gazette of India dated the Notification No. 137/90-Cus., 22nd March, 1991 together dated the 20th March, 1990. with an explanatory memoran- dum regarding revised rate of (xvi) G.S.R. 300(E) published in Ga- exchange for conversion of zette of India dated the 5th Russian Rouble into Indian June, 1991 together with an Currency of vice-versa. explanatory memorandum re- garding revised rate of exch- (x) S.O. 203(E) published in Ga- ange for conversion of certain zette of India dated the 20th foreign currencies into Indian March, 1991 together with an currency or vice-versa. explanatory memorandum re- garding revised rate of exch- (xvhj S. O. 333(E) published in Ga- ange for conversion of certain zette of India dated the 15th foreign currencies into Indian May, 1991 together with an Currency or vice-versa. explanatory .memorandum re- garding revised rate of exch- (xi) S.O. 211(E) published in Ga- ange for conversion of certain zette of India dated the 25th foreign currencies into Indian March, 1991 together with an currency or vice-versa. explanatory memorandum re- garding revised rate of exch- (xviii) S.O. 355(E) published in Ga- ange for conversion of Aus- zette of India dated the 23rd trian Schillings and Hong May, 1991 together with an Kong Dollars into Indian Cur- explanatory memorandum re- rency or vice-versa. garding revised rate of exch- ange for conversion of Singa- (xii) S.O. 219(E) published in Ga- pore Dollars into Indian Cur- zette of India dated the 26th rency or vice-versa. March, 1991 together with an explanatory memorandum re- (xix) S.O. 391(E) published in Ga- garding revised rate of exch- zette of India dated the 31st ange for conversion of Italian May, 1991 together with an Lire and Swiss Francs into explanatory memorandum re- Indian Currency or vice-versa. garding revised rate of exch- ange for conversion of Japanese (xiii) S.O. 226(E) published in Ga- Yen into Indian Currency or zette of India dated the 27tb vice-versa. March, 1991 together with an explanatory memorandum re- (xx) S.O. 378(E) published in Ga- garding revised rate of exch- zette of India dated the 3rd ange for conversion of certain June, 1991 together with an foreign currencies into Indian explanatory memorandum re- currency or vice-versa. garding revised rate of exch- ange for conversion of Malay- (xiv) G.S.R. 234(E) published in Ga- sian and USA Dollars into In- zette of India dated the 24th/ dian Currency or vice-versa. April, 1991 together with an explanatory memorandum re- (xxi) S.O. 391(E) published in Ga- garding revised rate of exch- zette of India dated the 6th ange for conversion of Rus- June, 1991 together with an sian Rouble into Indian Cur- explanatory memorandum re- rency or vice-versa. garding revised rate of exch- 287 Papers -Laid JULY 26, 1991 Papers Laid 28& aog© for conversion of Hong (4) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- Kong Dollars into Indian Cur- port (Hindi and English ver- rency or vice-versa. sions) of the Indian Institute of [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Foreign Trade, New Delhvfor 169/91} the year 1989-90 along with Audited Accounts. (ii) A copy of the Review Report of the CAG of India for the (Hindi and English versions) yew 1990: Annual Report of the by the Government on the wor- Trade Development Authority, New king of the Indian Institute of Delhi for the year, 1989-90 etc. Foreign Trade, New Delhi, for the year 1989-90. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (5) A statement (Hindi and Eng- (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): I lish versions) showing reasons beg to lay on the Table— for delay in laying the papers (1) A copy of the Report (Hindi mentioned at (4) above. and English versions) of the [Placed in Library. See No. LT- Comptroller and Auditor Gene- 172/91] ral of India for the year 1990 (6) A copy each of the following —Union Government No. 3 papers (Hindi and English ver- Commercial)-of 1990-Export sions) under sub-section (1) of Credit Guarantee Corporation section 619A of the Companies of India Limited under Article Act. 1956:— 151(1) of the Constitution. (i) A statement regarding Re- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- view by the Government on 1.70/91] the working of the Trade Fair Authority of India. New Delhi, (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- for the year 1989-90. port of the Trade Development Authority, New Delhi, for the (ii) Annual Report of the year 1989-90 along with Audit- Trade Fair Authority of India, ed Accounts. New Delhi, for the year 1989- 90 along with Audited Acco- (ii) A copy of the Review unts and comments of the (Hindi and English versions) Comptroller and Auditor Gen- by the Government on the wor- eral thereon. king of the Trade Development Authority, New Delhi, for the (7) A statement (Hindi and Eng- year 1989-90. lish versions) showing reasons [Placed in Library.. See No. LT- for delay in laying the papers 171/91] mentioned at (6) above. [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT- (3) A statement (Hindi and Eng- 173/91] lish versions) showing reasons for delay in. laying the papers fiientioned at (2) above. 289 Statt. by Minister SRAVANA 4, 4913 (SAKA) for increase in rates 290 Requests a f Some o f Royalty on Coal State Govts. 13jQ4 brs. stantial the finances of coal producing State Governments were affected adv- STATEMENT BY THE MINISTER ersely by these decisions of the courts. They have, therefore, approached the Requests of some Coal Producing Central Government to enhance the Stale Governments for increase in rate rates of royalty. of Royally on Coal 6. A decision on these requests in- t h e m i n i s t e r o f s t a t e o f volves complicated legal and financial THE MINISTRY OF COAL (SHRI issues. While some cesses have been P. A. SANGMA): Sir, some of the struck down others are being still le- Hon’ble Members raised the subject vied. Levy of royalty on coal is re- of increase of rates of royalty on lated to prices of a number ol com- coal. I am accordingly making this modities and full implications of statement for the information of the problems have to be studied in con- House. sultation with the Ministries, Depart- ments concerned and the State Gove- 2. Mines and Minerals (Regulation rnments concerned. All these matters and Development) Act, 1957 empo- are under examination of the Govern- wers the Central Government to levy ment. We are aware of the difficul- as also enhance the rates of royalty ties being faced by the State Govern- on minerals. Before February, 1987 ments and a decision in the matter the rates could be enhanced once in will be taken very shortly. four years. Subsequently the Act has [Placed in Library. See No. LT- been amended and rates of royalty 174/91] can now be enhanced every three years. [English] 3. The rates of royalty on coal were SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- last revised in February, 1981. The TER JEE (Dum Dum): Sir, there is a next revision could have taken place demand that the royalty be paid ad in February, 1985. However, the rates valorem* Over ten years, the prices have not been revised uptil now be- of minerals have been raised at least cause most of the coal producing three times.. .(Interruptions) States were levying very high rates of cesses on coal. These cesses differed from State to State and the yield to [Translation] State Governments from these cesses was more than eleven times the yield SHRI ATAL BIBARI VAJPAYEE from royalty. (Lucknow): The States do not want assurances, but royalty. (Interruptions) 4. Since the rates of cess were very high, some petitioners approached the SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Ro- courts. In a judgement dated 26-10-89 sera): Mr. Speaker, Sir, just one cla- in the case of India Cements versus rification. I had given a notice in this State of Tamil Nadu, the Supreme regard. Court held that State Govts, are not competent to levy a cess on minerals MR. SPEAKER: Please take your or mineral rights. Following this jud- seat gement, other courts have also been striking down the cesses levied by [English] other States. Hon. Members know that in this 5. Since the income from cesses to House we do not allow the questions the State Governments was quite sub- to be put on the statements made by 291 Statu by Minister JULY, 6,1991 for increase in rates 292 Requests of some of Royalty on Goal State Govts. the Ministers. If it is necessary te dis- SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: cuss this matter, 1 will consult all con- The hon. Minister had said in his re- cerned and we will fix up a discussion ply, ‘ So far as the question of increa- sing the rates of royalty on coal is (Interruptions) concerned, the matter is under consi- deration, and a decision in this regard SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- would be taken very soon so as to 1 ERJEE: Sir, may I draw your atten- compensate the State Government for tion to a Rules Committee’s decision the loss it is suffering on account of that such clarifications with the discre- cess and this shall be done by 31st tion of the Chair will be allowed? I March.” The then Government had was a member of the Rules Commit- given an assurance in this very House tee. . .(Interruptions) that this would be done by 31st March. The then hon. Minister had talked [Translation] about 31st March, now it is end of July and even then the hon. Minister SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: is saying that it is under consideration Just one clarification, you had permit- of the Government. No doubt, the ted earlier also. You had allowed me Government and the Ministers have to seak a clarification in this very ses- changed, but the commitment made by sion itself. (Interruptions) one Government should be adhered by its successor. The previous Government MR. SPEAKER: If I permit you, had said that a final decision in this it will create problems for you only. regard would be taken by the end of I am thinking in terms of your interest the financial year and now this Gov- only. ernment says that the matter is under consideration of the Government. On account of delay in taking decision, SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Bihar Government has so far suffered Mr. Speaker, Sir, through you, I would a loss of Rupees 500 crores. It has like to move a Privilege Motion aga- suffered a loss of rupees 500 crores, inst the hon. Minister. I would like to despite the Supreme Court verdict.. seek a clarification because in the Oral answer to a starred question given on [English] 26-02-1991 what the then hon. Minis- ter of Energy had said, 1 would like MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Paswan, now to read it before you... you conclude. I am not allowing like this. MR. SPEAKER: Now, see, it is turning into a regular speech. [Translation] SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: 1 am not making a regular speech, I Through you, I would like to know am just saying that the then hon. Mi- from the Government, whether it is nister had promised that a decision on not true that the previous Government increasing the royalty would be taken had assured this very House on 26-02- by 31st March, now the present Minis- 1991 that a decision on increasing the ter is saying that the matter is under royalty would be taken by the end of consideration of the Government. I the financial year, that is, March 31. would just like to read out the answer given on 26-02-1991 by the then hon. DR. LAXMI NARAYAN PAN- Minister... DEYA (Mandsaur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, similar is the case with Madhya Pra- MR. SPEAKER: Now. you are desh. The State Government has re- agam talking of reading out some- quested the Central Government to in- thing. crease the royalty. 293 Statt. by Minister SRAVANA 4,1913 (SAKA) for increase in rates 294 Rewests of some of Royalty on Coal State Govts. [English] MR. SPEAKER: Shri Sangma, it seems that the Chief Minister of SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- Bihar has declared certain things. TER JEE: Sir, one clarification... That is why I have allowed Shri Pas- (Interruptions). wan. If you are interested, you can respond to that question only. MR. SPEAKER: No, please. {Interruptions) SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- TERJEE: I will just seek clarifica- SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: tion, I will not deliver any speech. What about my clarification? {In- terruptions) MR. SPEAKER: No, no please. I have said that if it is necessary, we can discuss it, not now. Now if I [Translation] allow Paswanji, I have to allow you, I have to allow others also. SHRI SURAJ MANDAL (Godda): SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to give some TERJEE: I was a member of the information. Rules Committee. You remember, Sir, that you have been allowed this MR. SPEAKER: Please be discretion. seated, no need of any information etc. You can give it later on. MR. SPEAKER: I know...... {Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Not now. It [English] is not correct. If I allow you, then how can 1 disallow others also? SHRI P. A. SANGMA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the assurance that has SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- been referred to by the hon. Member TERJEE: Sir, in other States, the was given on the floor of this House— cess is there; it has not been struck as per his version, which he has down. Will the Government try to stated now—by the previous Govern- protect it? That is the first clarifi- ment. {Interruptions) cation. The second clarification that I ’want to seek is whether they are MR. SPEAKER: Shri Sangma, considering an ad valorem royalty. please address the Chair. These are the two clarifications I am seeking; I am not delivering any speech. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: I have stated the actual position of the case. MR. SPEAKER: Please under- We have some difficulties because the stand that the rules are not only to rates of cess differ in some States. help the Presiding Officers, they are Some High Courts have followed the meant to help you also. Supposing Supreme Court ruling and struck you raise this thing, then^other mat- down the Cess Act. {Interruptions) ters cannot be . taken up. And that is why, as far as possible, we have to follow the rules strictly. If you [Translation] want, you can change the rule. You can do that. But then it becomes SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: an unending affair. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it has_ been Jhejssue of discussion throughout India. It (Interruptions) was discussed "for the whole day. 295 Statt. by Minister JULY 26, 1991 for increase in rates 296 Requests of some of Royalty on Coal State Govts. [English] [Translation] SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: (Bolpur): You can change the law. Please take it as point of informa- By one simple amendment that can be tion... (Interruptions) What was the changed. (Interruptions) reply? I would like to produce the proceedings of the House before you. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: The Minister does not know anything MR. SPEAKER: Not in this about it. (Interruptions) manner. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: We are SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: looking into this. A decision will Mr. Speaker, Sir...... be taken as soon as possible. (In- terruptions) MR. SPEAKER: What is your point of order? Whidi article of [TranslationJ the constitution has been violated? SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, my point of order Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am on a point of is limited only to this point that at order. Through you, I would... that time Shri Kalyan Singh Kalviji had said in reply to a question that MR. SPEAKER: What is your by taking a decision in this House point of order, which procedure has itself it would be implemented within been violated? the current financial year. Is it a fact or not? SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: You had allowed me to seek clarifi- MR. SPEAKER: It is not a point cation. .. .(Interruptions).. of order. [English] SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Then what else is it? MR. SPEAKER: I rule it out. It is not a point of order. Do not MR. SPEAKER: It is a point of stretch it beyond a certain limit. Be- disorder. cause your Chief Minister was involv- ed, I allowed you to speak. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: The Minister had said that...... (Interruptions) (Interruptions) [Translation] [English] SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: MR. SPEAKER : Now you have The clarification I wanted to seek made your point sufficiently. I have was whether the Government had again said that if necessary it can be given an assurance or not that the discussed. You cannot go beyond decision to increase the royalty would that. be taken by the end of the financial (Interruptions) year... (Interruptions)... [Translation] [English] SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: MR. SPEAKER : What is your Mr. Speaker, Sir, the whole 'work of point of order? Bihar Government is at a standstill 297 Statt. by Minister SRAVANA 4/1913 (SAKA) for increase in rates 298 Requests of some ()f Royalty on Coal State Govts. because of lack of funds. The out- of increasing the royalty? The standing amount is Rs. 500 crores... decision of the previous government (Interruptions)... and you are talking is not even being implemented...(In of decision. It won’t go on like that terruptions)...... (Interruptions).. [English] MR. SPEAKER: Be seated, MR. SPEAKER: You have made please. You have taken up this your point sufficiently. issue at a time when it is to be deci- ded whether a statement etc. is to be given or not on this issue. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I do not appre- ciate Shri Paswan’s behaviour. MR. SPEAKER: Please be (Interruptions) seated. You should not do like that repeatedly. When I have al- SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV ready said, if it is necessary, we will (Azamgarh): Sir, if the Government allow a discussion on this. Even fails to fulfil any assurance given on then you are saying that you will ask the floor of this House, then what is questions after the statement and the alternative for the Members? want reply also. It is not possible... (Interruptions) (Interruptions)... MR. SPEAKER: Please do not carry on thiskind of a discussion with [English] the Presiding Officer. The Presiding Officer is facilitating you. You do not SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cut- get anything from the Presiding Offi- tack): Sir, we are interested to cer. 1 have said that if it is necessary, discuss it today itself. {Interruptions) you can discuss it. When I have said this, there is no point in just carry- [Translation] ing on a discussion like this. If he has not answered, what can I do? SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Sir, T am thankful to you that you (Interruptions) have considered it. We wanted that government should consider it seriou- [Translation] sly, instead the Government showed its negligence. It is a matter of reg- SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: ret. (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, Sir, the point was raised that the Chief Minister of Bihar had [English] said that from 29th he was going on a fast unto death and in view of its se- MR. SPEAKER: When I am riousnes it was allowed. Now the cooperating with you, you should government is breaking even its also cooperate with me. own assurances. For this they are not even prepared to say [Translation] that they would call the Chief Minister of Bihar and would SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: discuss the matter with him. All the Mr. Speaker, on the one hand the resources have been exhausted there. government is giving assurance to There is nobody to take care even provide funds positively but on the after the decisions of the High Court other hand even the amount of arrears and the Snupreme Court...(interrup- is not being paid; What to speak tions) 20—15 LSS/ND/91 299 Statt. by Minister JULY 26, 1991 for increase in rates 300 Requests of some of Royalty on Coal State Govts. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: Sir, the the Whole debate. The Honourable assurance was given by the previous Minister has said 2-3 times in the Government stating that it would be House that it was the assurance given done before the 31st of March, 1991. by the previous government. It is This was the assurance given by the very correct but which government previous Government and not by our was it. It was the government sup- Government. Our Government has ported by the Congress party. It is a come to office only towards the end secondary question and I am not rai- of June. So, how can we fulfil that sing this matter. I do not know whe- assurance when that date is already ther it comes under the purview of over? (Interruptions) point of order or not but I am raising a question of propriety. SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: Sir, is it a Government of the people Mr. Speaker, Sir, when the House of this country or not? We are not is aware of the fact and it has given here to talk about this Government or its recognition to the above fact that that Government. (Interruptions) If government is a continuous process, an earlier Government reaches an it goes on continuously. If some gov- agreement with a foreign country, ernment makes any commitment to a then the next Government cannot say State Government about its economic that this was done by the previous condition, is it not obligatory on the Government and so we are not liable part of the next Government to fulfil for this. (Interruptions) that commitment. I do not want to put you into any trouble in this connec- SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE tion. I only want to submit whether (Bolpur): Sir, I am on a point of it is correct for a Minister to stand order. Our Constitution does not con- up in the House and say that this template party Governments so tar commitment was made by the erst- as the discharge of the duties and the while government. I just want to functions that the Constitution imposes know if this commitment was made on the Government of India is con- by the previous government, should cerned. Therefore, no Minister can it not be fulfilled by the present gov- try to avoid responsibility by saying ernment. that a particular party Government has taken a particular decision and Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is an important so another party Government cannot question. Suppose a particular govern- abide by that decision. This is a ques- ment makes a promise or gives an tion of constitutional impropriety. Can assurance and that too about the fin- the obligation be disowned because ancial condition of a State Govern- another party forms the Government? ment, won’t the subsequent govern- The Congress Party Government ment fulfil that * promise? Today, should have the minimum sense of Bihar Government is not able to meet political morality to abide by the deci- its daily expenditure and the Chief sion of its benami Government headed Minister of that State says that he bv Shri Chandra Shekhar. Who had will go on fast unto death from such put up that Government? They gave and such day. You did well by giving an undertaking to the President to frequent chances of discussion on this support that Government uncondi- topic. T would like to know under a tionally. So, they are bound by that question of propriety whether it is not decision. Can they deny that? This is the duty of the present government to a question of constitutional impro- fulfil the promises given by the pre- vious government? .. (Interruptions) priety. (Interruptions) [Enofish] [Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF SHRI RABI RAY fKendrapada): THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE Mr Speaker, Sir, I was listening to SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): I am 301 Statt. by Minister SRAVANA 4,1913 (SAKA) for increase in rates 302 Requests of some of Royalty on Coat State Govts. not entering into the merits of the Government, namely something would issue. 1 am sure my colleagues will be done within the 31st of March can answer that. 1 just want to make one be fulfilled? How could I fulfil that point. assurance when I was not there? I have come only after that. 1 think, the statement made by the Minister has been misunderstood. As soon as we came to power, we With great respect to Shri Rabi Ray, have given our attention to it. The I may say, the emphasis is not on the Chief Minister of Bihar has been talk- fact that the assurance was given by ing to us. We have been in constant the previous Government. Nobody is touch with the State Government. 1 saying that there is no continuity in have assured the House that the deci- the Government of India. There is sion will be taken shortly. (Interrup- a continuity. If a decision has been tions) taken, it has to be honoured. If an as- surance has been given, it has to be implemented. The point, I think, my [Translation] colleague is trying to say—this is where I am surprised that a distin- SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: guished Member and lawyer like Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to point out Shri Somnath Chatterjee is trying the difficulty once again. I rose after to turn the tables against us. Shri Sangma made his statement. 1 The point he was making was, wanted to safy something but you said if an assurance was made in that it would be discussed later. February or so that something will be done by 31st of March, 1991 how MR. SPEAKER: Now we are dis- can a Government which came into cussing a point of order. office on 21st of June, 1991 fulfil it? Let the hon. Members understand SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: the point. What my colleague said Mr. Speaker, Sir, Shri Ram Vilas was: We have come into office. We Paswan is an old Member of the are looking into the matter and we House. He strained his vocal chords will take a decision very shortly. That and had his say. is not a repudiation of any decision or of any assurance. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this question does The point is, the Government came not relate to Bihar alone. Along with into office on 21st of June. It requires Bihar it relates to other states also. time to take a decision and certainly I am associated with Madhya Pradesh, it cannot be taken before the 31st of though I have surrendered the Vidisha March, 1991. That is all, I think, he Parliamentary seat. This problem re- was trying to say. I do not see any lates to Madhya Pradesh also. 1 do controversy about it. not want to rake up the old contro- versy here. Shri Chidambaram is right SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: in saying that as the present Do not spoil a good Minister. Government took charge after 31st March, it cannot fulfil the as- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Do surance given on 31st March not spoil a good case by your bad by the previous Government. But arguments. Government can at least tell by when a decision would be taken in SHRI P. A. SANGMA: I never this matter ‘shortly’ does not mean said that-the assurance of the previous anything. (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, Government could not be fulfilled. Sir, all the states are facing financial The only point is how the assurance crisis. I received a phone call from which has been made by the previous the Chief Minister of Madhya Statt. by Minister JULY 26, 1991 for increase in rates 304 Requests of some of Royalty on Coal State Govts. [Sh. Atal Bihari Vajpayee] even they agree to it. Now the ques- tion is about date. The point is that Pradesh yesterday and he asked me to raise the matter of royalty here and the hon. Members from Bihar aie urged that we insist on the Govern- concerned about the difficult situation ment for an early decision. If a Chief in their state and want an early solu- Minister threatens to go on hunger tion. Similarly, Members from other strike it would create a new crisis. In states are also seized of the matter case another Chief Minister also threa- which is creating problem in their tens to go on hunger strike what will State and want a solution at any cost. happen and how long will it go on? The hon. Minister has said that it 1 would, therefore, submit that would be done ‘shortly’. This means the Government should take an early as early as possible and n the least decision in this matter and fix a date possible time. I don’t think he can by which it would be done. give a particular date. If lie gives a [English] date and is not able to give a solution by that time, it would not be god. I SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: He hope he would bear in mind your said “Very Shortly.” sentiments. I think ‘shortly’ should mean ‘shortly’ and nothing else. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- (Interruptions) JEE: How short is shordy? [English] MR. SPEAKER: I think Shri San- gmaji understands the meaning of SHRI SR1KANTA JENA (Cut- ‘Shortly’ very well. tack): This is a very serious matter. You must try to understand this pro- THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- blem. This matter has been raised MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI GHU- many times in the House. The Gov- LAM NABI AZAD): It is not shorter ernment of India is deliberately ueg- than Shri Sangmaji. lecting this. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: It is very MR. SPEAKER: I have received a difficult to understand what is short letter from Shri Advani Ji— ...... and what is tall. Some people say I am short. Some people say I am tall. (Interrupt ions) I assure that this will be done shortly. SHRI NIRMAL KANT1 CHAT- 1 am trying my best. TER JEE: It will be an ugly sight if a Chief Minister of a State goes on SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: hunger strike to pressurise the Centre. Minister must give a firm date. We should try to avoid such a situa- tion. All that we want from the House [Translation] is that the hon. Minister should give a date. It may not be 29th. It could MR. SPEAKER: Achariaji please be 31st July. We can dissuade the sit down. Please take your seat. Chief Minister from going on hunger strike against the Centre. It is this (Interruptions) that we want Shri Sangma to under- stand and he should respond. MR. SPEAKER: I am not giving a ruling. One thing is very clear from the sentiments expressed by all the hon. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: The Government of India is delibera- Members in the House and that is tely neglecting Bihar. The Govern- there is a consensus on the matter. ment of India is trying to take a poli- There is no need to ^peak on it. The tical line. (Interruptions) Government is a continuing factor and 305 Statt. by Minister SRAVANA 4,1913 (SAKA) for increase in rates 306 Requests o f some of Royalty on Coal State Govts. SHRI NIRMAL HANTI CHAT- raised the matter of royalty on coal. TERJEE: The State should not col- We had urged the hon. Minister, lide with the Centre. Shri Sangma, who is sitting here, to fix a date by which a decision in this SHRI BASU DEB ACHAR1A: In matter would be taken because the West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar Chief Minister of Bihar has threat- and Orissa, there are non-Congress(I) ened to go on a hunger strike. This Governments. (Interruptions) is a serious matter and therefore, we appeal to the hon. Minister to in- [Translation] crease the royalty on coal and fix a date in consultation with the Chief SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: Minister of the concerned States by Mr. Speaker, Sir, Shri Vajpayee has which the royalty on coal could he rightly said that he can at least say increased. that the Chief Ministers are being in- vited for consultations. When the [English] Chief Ministers are being invited Le can say that the meeting is being held SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cut- on so and so date. (Interruptions) tack): Mr. Chairman, there are two SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: The issues that are involved; one is the announcement of royalty and the Government will have to fix the date. other issue is about the Cess Amend- We can’t foresake the Chief Minister ment Bill. So the Minister should ca- of Bihar and let him die. (Inter- tegorically say this. ‘Shortly’ ' as no ruptions) meaning at all. We have been lis- [English] tening to him. Royalty enhancement is pending with the Govenment of SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: Sir, India for the last 10 years. It is al- there are two issues involved in ready overdue; the Bihar Chief Mi- this matter. What about the Ce*s nister has given a notice that he will Amendment Bill? Are they going to go on fast; the Orissa Chief Minis- bring forward that Bill in this Ses- ter has already had a discussion but sion or not? (Interruptions) still the matter is pending with the Government of India. There should MR. SPEAKER: The House be a categorical answer from the stands adjourned for lunch to reas- Minister as to when the Government semble at 2.30 P.M. today. of India is going to take a decision in respect of enhancement of royal- 13.30 hrs. ty and about the Cess Amend- ment Bill. We would like to know The Lok Sabha then adjourned jot whether this Bill is coming in this Lunch till thirty minutes past Four- House, in this session or not. The teen of the clock. Minister should state this categori- cally. The Lok Sabha re-assembled after [Translation] Lunch at thirtyjour minutes past SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Fourteen of the clock. When are you going to give Rs. 500 crore which is due on this account? [SHRI SHARAD DIGHE in the Chair] SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD YADAV (Thanjharpur): Mr. Chair- man Sir, the royalty on coal was in- ITran slat ion] creased way back in 1981 and since SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN then there has been no increase. Bi- (Rosera): Mr. Speaker, Sir, we had har is passing through financial crisis 307 Statt. by Minister JULY 26, 1991 for increase in rates 308 Requests of some of Royalty on Coal State Govts. [Sh. Devendra Prasad Yadav] to make payments to its employees. The Central Government should re- and coal is the only source of in- lease the sum of Rs. 500 crore which come for the State. In States where is due from it according to the last petroleum products are produced, agreement. The Government should like Maharashtra and Assam, royal- fix a date for its release. It can be ty is increased from time to time 31st August or 30th July, but one but royalty on coal is not increased. date should be fixed upto which the This proposal is pending considera- amount of royalty will be increased. tion of the Central Government. No This will benefit the Bihar and other time limit has been fixed by the concerned State Governments. Government Sir, this is a matter of public importance and -so I would [English] ask the Government to stipulate a time limit within 2-3 days. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: Honou- rable Members have requested that [English] a meeting of the Chief Ministers should be convened. I have decided THE MINISTER OF STATE OF as 1 said, to call the meeting of the THE MINISTRY OF COAL (SHRI Chief Ministers within a weeks’ time. P. A. SANGMA): Sir, I had decid- I cannot call it earlier than that be- ed to convene a meeting of the Chief cause the communication has to go Ministers of all the coal nroducing to various Chief Ministers and with- states including the Chief Minister in a week’s time, I have decided of Bihar, within a week’s time. to call the meeting of the Chief Mi- nisters and all matters connected with these issues will be discussed [Translation] with the Chief Ministers. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Alright, the Government has decid- [Translation] ed to call the Chief Minister of Bi- hai. The present Government has SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: said that the matter regarding in- Sir. regarding this matter, hon. Mi- creasing royalty is under considera- nister Shri Thakur who is from Bi- tion. The previous Government said hai is present here. He should that a decision would be taken by please help us in this matter. 31* March. 31st March has already passed. The hon. Minister says that THE MINISTER OF STATE IN he was not Minister on that date. TOP MINISTRY OF FINANCE This morning Shri V. P. Singh spoke (SHRI RAMESHWAR THAKUR). to the hon. Prime Minister for the Sir, Bihar as well as other states information of the House and the should get financial assistance due hon. Minister, I would like to say from the Centre and other sources that the hon. Prime Minister said also. that this was a serious matter. A Minister who belongs to Bihar is SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: present here and he is aware of the One Minister says that they should situation there. A similar situation get it immediately and in due pro- exists in Orissa, Madhya Pradesh portion. I am also saying the same and West Bengal. Floods are play- thing. I am just saying that ...{In- ing havoc in Bihar. terruptions) [English] The royalty money is pending to- wards the Central Government but MR. CHAIRMAN: 1 think that the Bihar Government has no funds should satisfy you now. 300 J t. Comm. on Offs. SRAVANA 4, 1913 {SAKA) Motion re\ 310 of Profit Constitution SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHU- amongst the members of each RY (Katwa): This is a serious House in accordance with the sys- martet, Sit. The Chief Minister of tem of proportional representation Bihar has declared that he will un- by means of single transferable dertake fast from 29th of this month. vote: Some message must go from this House and that should be initiated That the functions of the Joint by the Minister saying that things Committee shall be— will be.taken up in right earnest and it will be decided soon and that he (i) to examine the composition should not undertake fast. What is and character of all existing wrong in his saying that? ‘‘committees” (other than those examined by the Joint SHRI P. A. SANGMA: I don’t Committee to which the Par- like anybody going on fast. liament (Prevention of Dis- qualification) Bill, 1957 was referred) and all “committees” SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOU* that may hereafter be consti- DHURY: Why can’t you request tuted, membership of which him not to undertake fast? may disqualify a person for being chosen as, and for be- SHRI P. A. SANGMA: Since 1 ing, a member of either House have said that I am convening the of Parliament under article meeting of Chief Ministers including 102 of the Constitution; the Chief Minister of Bihar within a week, I will appeal to the Chief (ii) to recommend in relation to Minister of Bihar not to go on fast. the “committees” examined by it what offices should dis MR. CHAIRMAN: I think that qualify and what offices should satisfy you all. Now Shri should not disqualify; K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy to move (iii) to scrutinise from time to the motion regarding constitution of time the Schedule to the Par- the Joint Committee on Offices of liament (Prevention of Dis- Profit. qualification) Act, 1959, and to recommend any amend- ments in the said Schedule, whether by way of addition, omission or otherwise: 14.41 Hrs. That the Joint Committee shall, JOINT COMMITTEE ON OFFI- from time to time, report to both CES OF PROFIT Houses of Parliament in respect of all or any of the aforesaid mat- Motion re. Constitution of Committee ers: THE MINISTER OF LAW, That the members of the Joint JUSTICE AND COMPANY AF- Committee shall hold office for FAIRS {SHRI K. VIJAYA BHAS- the duration of the present Lok KARA REDDY): Sir, I beg to Sabha: move: That in order to constitute a sitt- “That a Joint Committee of the ing of the Joint Committee, the Houses to be called the Joint quorum shall be one-third of the Committee on Offices of Profit be total number of members of the constituted consisting of fifteen mem- Committee: bers, ten from this House and five from the Rajya Sabha, That in other respects, the Rules who shall be elected from of Procedure of this House relat- 311 //. Comm• onOffs. JULY 26, 1991 Motion re. Constitution 312 of Profit [Sh. K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy] it what offices should disqua- lify and what officese should ing to Parliamentary Committees will apply with such variations not disqualify; and modifications as the Speaker may make; and (iii) to scrutinise from time to time the Schedule to the Parliament That this House recommends to (Prevention of Disqualification) the Rajya Sabha that the Rajya Act, 1959, and to rtcommend Sabha do join in the said Joint any amendments in the said Committee and to communicate wSchedule, whether by way of to this House the names of mem- addition, omission or otherwise; bers to be appointed by the Rajya Sabha to the Joint Committee.” That the Joint Committee shall, MR. CHAIRMAN : The question from time to time, report to both Houses of Parliament in rtspect of is: all or any of the aforesaid matters: “That a Joint Committee of the Houses to be called the Joint Com- That the members of the Joint mittee on Offices of Profit be consti- Committee shall hold olfice for the tuted consisting of fifteen members, duration of the present Lok Sabha; ten from this House and five from the Rajya Sabha, who shall be elect- That in order to constitute a sitting ed from amongst the members of of the Joint Committee, the quorum each House in accordance with the shall be one-third of the total system of proportional representa- numebr of members of the Com- tion by means of single transferable mittee; vote: That the functions of the Joint That in other respects, the Rules Committee shall be— of Procedure of this House relating to Parliamentary Committees will (i) to exaine the composition and apply with such variations and mo- character of all existing “com- dification as the Speaker may mittees” (other than those exa- make; and mined by the Joint Committee to which the Parliament (Pre- That this House recommends to the vention of Disqualification) Rajya Sabha that the Rajya Sabha Bill, 1957 was referred and all do join in the said Joint Committee “committees” that may here- and to communicate to this House after be constituted, member- the names of members to be ap- ship of which may disqualify a pointed by the Rajya Sabha to the person for being chosen as, and Joint Committee.” for being, a member of either House of Parliament under arti- The motion was adopted. cle 102 of the Constitution; (ii) to recommend in relation to the “committees” examined by 313 Matters Under SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Rule 377 314 1444 tas. declaration of Trivandrum Airport as an International Airport. However MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 Government have not so far taken necessary steps for providing /the (i) Need to Instruct Haryana Gov- required facilities which are essential ernment for early completion for an International Airport. Kerala of die portion of Link Channel is often said to be the Kashmir of on Gapga Canal falling under the South and there is great potential its jorisfiction for development of tourism. Kerala could attract a large number of [Translation] tourists from countries like Japan, Singapore, Malaysia as also from the SHRI BIRBAL (Ganga Nagar): Gulf countries and could earn the The ‘Gang Canal’ in the Sriganga- much needed foreign exchange. There nagar district of Rajasthan is a very are also a number of foreign Airways important canal that has been in companies willing to operate their existence for the last 60 years. services. Recently the Gulf Air has started service which is undoubtedly This canal, which has a capacity the beginning in International flights of 2750 cusecs, is badly damaged in from the Airport. It is, therefore, the Punjab region. Water is not requested that all the infrastructural flowing upto the full capacity of the facilities required for an International canal. The Rajasthan Government Airport may be provided to this Air- has diverted its share of water into port and permission granted to the the Indira' Gandhi Canal and cons- foreign Airways willing to start their tructed a link channel on R. D. No. services from there. 500 near Mohgarh and this would be connected to the primary Jiead of (iii) Need to prevent deforestation the Gang Canal at Sadhuwali. The in the coastal areas of Srifcaku- Rajasthan Government has already undertaken the repair work, falling lam district of Andhra Pradesh under its jurisdiction, and it is near- ing completion. A part of this link DR. VISWANATHAM KANITHI channel falls under Haryana’s juris- (Srikakulam): Srikakulam District diction. The Rajasthan Government in Andhra Pradesh has a coast line had already deposited the required of about 200 km. facing the Bay of money for repair work two years ago Bengal in Indian Ocean. It is fre- but the Haryana Government has quently inflicted by cyclones and tidal not started the work so far. waves and consequent havoc and disaster. In addition to the various Therefore, I request the hon. short term remedial measures, some Minister of Water Resources to im- preventive measures were taken by mediately instruct the Haryana Gov- the State Government with the assis- ernment to complete the work at the tance of the Central aid. One such earliest so that fanners are not de- is the development of green belt prived of water for irrigation and re- along coast line. With much diffi- pair work is started once again. culty and huge spending, since 1982, the Forest Department nursed casua- rina Topes in thousands of acres, (ii) Need to provide more infra- along the entire sea shore. Now the structural bdtties at Trivan- trees grew up, but the unlawful de- drum airport ments began to deforest unabatted and unchecked in the disguise ^ of [English] naxalite activities. It is a project to protect the poor, innocent and ig- SHRI A. CHARLES (Trivand- norant people living in the coastal rum); The people of Kerala are belt, mostly fishermen. So, I sug- extremely happy and grateful on gest suitable action must be taken to 21—15 LSS/ND/91 315 Matters Under JULY 26, 1991 Rule 377 316 [Dr. Viswanatham Kanithi] (v) Need to establish a Uuivetsity In Pumea, Bihar protect the villagers and their pro- praties in the shore. One such measure is to lease the land to the [English] interested parties of the locality of not more than one acre for a family SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN and allow them only to grow the (Kishanganj): Mr. Chairman, Sir, Green Belt, so that the purpose for North East Bihar, which consists of which the green belt is grown, will seven districts—Kishanganj, Araria, be served. Pumea, Katihar, Saharsa, Madhe- pura and Sapoul—has a population (iv) Need to (vi) Need to allocate adequate (vii) Need to take steps for protec- quota of fertilizers to Orissa tion and beautification of and Madhya Pradesh through Jhansi Fait and Palace of Rani Jhansi hi Uttar Pradesh the Marketing Division of Hin- dustan Fertilizers Corporation [Translation] SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI SHRI SIVAJI PATNAIK (Bhuba- (Jhansi): Sir, I am raising the neswar): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the following matter under Rule 377:— management of Hindustan Fertilizer I would like to inform the hon. Corporation has decided to close Minister in charge of the Archaeo- down its marketing set-up in Orissa logical Department that the historic region. The marketing set-up of fort of Maharani Lakshmibai in Madhya Pradesh region has been Jhansi and her palace situated in the centre of the city are in a very dila- closed recently. The management’s pidated condition. With a view to plea is that adequate stock of fertili- beautify this fort of national impor- zer is not available for sale to these tance and develop it as a resort of Slates. tourist attraction, many acres of land was acquired around this place by the Archaeological Department. Since 1968-69, these Regional Marketing Offices are in operation. The existing condition of the fort There is a Fertilizer Promotion and and the palace is very poor. The Agricultural Research Division which land acquired for tourism purposes has been encroached upon in an un- is engaged in educating farmers in authorised manner. balanced and scientific use of fertili- zers thereby creating effective demand The Central Government should for optimising productivity. take immediate steps for the beautifi- cation of this fort which is remem- bered for a number of memorable Our country imports around 30 activities of great freedom fighter, lakh tonnes of fertilisers to meet our Maharani Lakshmibai and the un- requirement. The marketing infra- authorised, encroachers on the ac- structure of HFC had been selling a quired land should also be got vaca- share of this imported quota. ted. The antiques preserved in the The closure of the Regional Offi- palace of the Maharani would get ces, one after the other, will seve- transferred to the proposed museum rely affect the smooth flow of fertili- after its construction. So the Gov- zers to the farmers of these States and ernment should make it clear as to how the palace of the Maharani will also render about 200 employees would be developed by the Archaeo- of Marketing Division jobless. logical Department so that misgivings among the people could be removed. The need of the hour is to allocate adequate quota of fertilizers to these There is a lot of resentment among Regions through the Marketing Divi- the people over the Government’s neglect of the Maharani’s memorials. sion of HFC from the imported pool Concrete measures should be taken and also from other sources in public immediately to remove the resentment and cooperative sectors. among the people. 319 JULY 26, 1991 320 [sEtag&sife] The Government cannot move in this House without the consent of all of MR. CHAIRMAN: The next Items us. So, please put it correctly. are General Discussion on Budget (General) and Demands for Grants MR. CHAIRMAN: But somebody on Account (General). These are to must demand now. That is the work be discussed together. I am told by of the Government. the Parliamentary Affairs Minister that he wants the Demands for Grants on Account to be passed now. SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I am demanding if you give me a chance. If you keep on talking, then I cannot SHRI JASWANT SINGH (Oiittoi- even demand. I have been demanding. garh): To whom are you addressing Now, there are two minutes left to this question Sir? the Private Members’ Business. The Minister of Parliamentary Affairs had MR. CHAIRMAN: Please go on been in consultation with us and with now. the Speaker himself. This consultation has been going since yesterday. What SHRI JASWANT SINGH: The we are submitting is we are ready, all matter is being discussed with just of us are ready to pass the Demands five minutes to Private Members’ for Grants on Account without dis- Business. cussion now, in the next ten minutes or so. And thereafter* the discussion on the Budget can be taken up in a MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyway, you more meaningful fashion starting from will have to demand. tomorrow morning at 11 AM and go on till Tuesday evening. So, we have SHRI JASWANT SINGH: That is got three full days of discussion and not the point. You addressed a ques- 15 hours have been allotted foe dis- tion. cussion. I hope the Government will give its consent to this proposal. SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- TERJEE (Dum Dum): Sir, we had a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN discussion in the Speaker’s Chamber THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- while the Parliamentary Affairs Minis- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER ter was also present And there was OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF an understanding generated that the LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY vote on Demands for Grants on Acc- AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARAJAN ount can be passed without discussion KUMAR AMANGALAM): We have now and the rest of the time be con- no objection at all since all the par- sumed on that item itself. Mr. Kuma- ties have been suggesting that it will ramangalam is present here. Am I in- give them a little easiness in regard to terpreting you correctly? ...(Interrup- the guillotine timing which we will tions)...So Sir, there is just no point have to go through. We can have the in trying to initiate the General Dis- vote on Demands for Grants on Acc- cussion on the Budget now. ount passed now and then we will have the discussion on the Budget comple- MR. CHAIRMAN: What do you ted by Tuesday evening. CInterrup- want? Do you want that to be pass- tions) ed now? Unless the Government wants it why do you raise it? SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Mr. Chairman Sir, if you want to put the SHRI JASWANT SINGH: It is not matter to the sense of the House, like that Sir. It is not a question of postponing the Private Members’ what the Gove^gpent wants. It is a Business by ten minutes will enable question of what the House wants. the Treasury Benches to properly 321 SRAVANA 4, 1913 (&4&4) 322 word the Vote on Accounts. You can also want to convey to the House just move a Motion in that ten minutes one point On any subject being dis- and without discussion, this cussed in the House, cannot we take House can pass fee vote on account a view that no threat, whichever so that the Finance Minister does not source it may emanate from, will cow suffer from palpitation. (,Interruptions) down this House in discharging its duties? SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMA- RAMANGALAM: There is no pro- These threats are in post cards, en- idem from our side. The Chair has to velops and inland letters...... put it to the vote of the House. We are waiting for the papers to come. MR. CHAIRMAN: I have follow- It is an administrative exercise. You ed you. Please take your seat. have to give the office some time. SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV TER JEE: Will this message go round (Azamgarh): If you require 15 minu- the country through you that nothing tes, we have no objection. You can can silence the voice of a Member of have it. Parliament in the House whoever he may be, whichever relegion or comple- SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMA- xion he has? Undaunted, we will RAMANGALAM: I have a pro- pursue the point which serves the posal. At 5.30 after the Private Mem- country. This message must go from bers’ Business is over, we can take up the House. I want that this sentiment the Vote on Account and put it to the is seconded in one voice by all parts vote of the House immediately. Then of the House, whether it be Right or we can start the Half an Hour Dis- Left We should have a unanimous cussion. resolution. We must resolve that such threats will not silence the House and we all condemn it. This is all that I SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN request you and all sides of the House. (Cooch Bihar): You may adjourn the House for 10 or 15 minutes. MR. CHAIRMAN: It is an esta- blished parliamentary privilege that SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMA- every member should have a right to RAMANGALAM: There is no re- speak here fearlessly and no threats quirement to adjourn the House. We can be given from anybody outside or can take it up at 5.30 PM. inside the House. Therefore, his com- plaint is correct. I have been asked MR. CHAIRMAN; It is 3 O’clock. by the Speaker to convey that die Shall we go to the next item? member concerned should be given all protection in this respect and Gov- ernment should take necessary steps SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- in the matter. TER JEE: There is something that I would draw your attention to. The mover of the Resolution regarding re- Now, let us take up the next item. ligious shrines, Shri Zainal Abedi is receiving letters repeatedly threaten- PROF. K. V. THOMAS (Eraaku- ing his life for moving that Resolu- lam): Sir. I seek a clarification on one tion in the House. We have already point. talked to the Speaker and we have also submitted copies of those threatening letters to the Speaker. As members of MR. CHAIRMAN: The matter is this House, we certainly need the closed now. We cannot discuss every- protection of the Speaker. But we thing again and again. 323 Announcement by the JULY 26, 1991 Announcement by the 324 Chair Chair PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Sir. us- the 12th July, 1991, was allotted for ually die custom in the House is that the transaction of Private Members’ Resolutions and Bills are taken up on Resolutions. alternate Fridays. But I find that dur- The second Friday, that is. the 19th ing the last three consecutive Fridays, July, 1991, was allotted few the trans- the House is discussing the Resolution action of Private Members’ Bilk as only. also Resolutions. On that day Bills, which fulfilled the relaxed period of MR. CHAIRMAN: Discuss this notice were introduced. > The House point with, the Speaker in his Cham- will appreciate that the Bills could not ber. have been taken up for consideration immediately after introduction as the MR. CHAIRMAN: Discuss this ballot is required to be held to deter- long long time, we have this custom. mine their inter se priority. The date I just want to know why this custom for ballot had been announced before is now violated. the beginning of the sessions in Bulle- tin-Part 11, dated the 29th June, 1991. SHRI N1RMAL KANTI CHAT- Therefore, on the 19th July, 1991 rest TERJEE: Let me clarify. The reason of the time available was utilised for is that Bills are yet to be introduced. the discussion of the part—discussed resolution on the agenda. A ballot for the Bills introduced on the 19th July, 1991 was accordingly held on the 22nd July, 1991 and die result of ballot notified in the Bulletin-Part II of that ISM I k s . data. The Private Members’ Business ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE relating to Bills cannot be taken up CHAIR today, the 26th July, 1991, due to constraints of procedure requiring Members to give notice for consider- (|) Transaction of Private Members’ Business ation of their Bills, which had gained priority at the ballot held on the 22nd [English] July, 199r, within a specified period, that is, upto the 25th July, 1991. The MR. CHAIRMAN: I have some List of Business of Private Members’ announcement to be made on behalf Business is also required to be circula- of the Speaker. He says— ted to Members at least two days be- Let me explain the reason why Pri- fore the actual day otn which the Pri- vate Members’ Bills cannot be taken vate Members’ business is to be taken up today. The first Friday was allot- up. ted for the transaction of business re- The Private Members’ Biils will lating to Private Members’ Resolu- tions. as usual. Also there was no Bill now be taken up on Friday, the 2nd August, 1991. pending, as all Bills had lapsed with the dissolution of last Lok Sabha. Accordingly, the first Friday, that is, 325 Res re. steps for SRAVANA 4,19T3 (SAKA) o f religious shrines 326 maintaining status quo & places o f worship 15.07 h is. attempt, organised struggle against feudalism, movement for land reforms RESOLUTION RE. STEPS FOR we could contain communalism. That MAINTAINING STATUS QUO OF is our experience in West Bengal. RELIGIOUS SHRINES AND PLA- Thanks to the persistant struggle of CES OF WORSHIP—Contd. Kisam Sabhas and other mass orga- nisations and bold initiatives that were [English] taken by the successive Left Front Governments on land reforms we SHRI SUDARSAN RAYCHAU- could contain communalism there. DHARY (Scramporc): Sir, while I was participating in this debate on the Private Members* Resolution It is indeed surprising that while it is claimed that Ram Rajya fights moved by my friend, Shri Zainal Abedin, I tried to stress one poverty and hunger but not a single slogan against these evils was raised point that is, that the communalism during Rath Yatra, last year. Instead poses the biggest danger and damage to the unity of the common people we have heard—we have collected from Press Reports—that inflamma- and to the unity of toiling masses, tory slogans were raised like Moham- who are fighting against the pover- madans have got only two places to ty, hunger and destitution. This go Kabristan or let them to Pakis- is why communalism is a weapon in tan. Only when the elections came the hands of power that be in our nearer, questions of Roti and Insaf country, in our semi-feudal society. were invoked, just to give Ram a If one community of toiling people human face. Under the circumstances, can be alienated from, can be separa- I firmly believe that the fight against ted from another community of toiling communalism is closely inter-woven people in the name of religion, it with a fight against communalism. would only benefit upper strata of the You cannot fight in one front and at society who would like to see the the [Sh. Sudarsan Raycbaudhary] SHRI SYED SHAHABUDOIS (Kishanganj): I am on a point of which are part and parcel of any thought of liberal democracy. order. MR. CHAIRMAN: What is your Secondly who authorised die point of order? Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the BJP to represent the entire Hindu com- munity? The way they are confining SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Ram in a particular piece of land... We have limited time. We had al- (Interruptions) ready two sessions for discussing this Resolution. Today is the third ses- Why are you shouting? Is this the sion. I do not know how long It way to behave? (Interruptions). The will take. I think the House should way they are confining Ram in a par- decide how much time we are going ticular piece of land, I am sure would to allot to this Resolution. There not be liked by any sensible Hindu. should be a time limit for this Re- solution. (Interruptions) Otherwise, you know what happened the other May I quote Poet Rabindranath day in the House. I would sug- Tagore? gest that half of the time should be He wrote: “The truth is what you given to those who are in favour of this Resolution and half of the time yourself construct Ram was not bom should be given to those who are in the forest of Ayodhya. He was against the Resolution. This is not born in our mind the poet’s mind.” the Govenment’s Resolution; this is the Private Member’s Resolution. I have heard that BJP also likes it. (Interruptions) You challenge Rabin- dranath Tagore. Why challenge me? MR. CHAIRMAN: There is no I am just quoting Tagore. (Interrup- point of order. TTiis is your sugges- tions') tion. MR. CHAIRMAN: That is not SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cut- the way to behave. Let him speak. tack): There should be a time limit for every speaker. Some speaker SHRI SUDARSAN RAYCHAU- takes one hour while other speakers DHARY: BJP considers Rabindra- do not get time. (Interruptiony) nath Tagore was a great poet. There is nothing knew in it. All of us so MR. CHAIRMAN: I will give consider. But the BJP considers only 10-15 minutes to every speaker. Rabindranath Tagore as a great Hindu poet. So, I would . request [Translation] the BJP to follow the concept of their great Hindu poet at least and MAHANT ABEDYA NATH (Go- shon the' path of inciting violence rakhpur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am and inciting communal passion to grateful to you for offering me an op- gain political mileage and having portunity to present my views on nairow political % gains. this resolution. Sir. the resolution presented by the hon. Member con- (Interruptions) tains two parts. The first part re- veals that the Ram Janmabhoomi MR. C H A jpgA N : Although Babri Masjid issue may be resolved you may ha r f t p bosite views, you through negotiation and goodwill. most listen*®**® ' Sir, as far as this part of the rc- (Interrttptmru) idution Is concerned we have ne- 329 Res. re. steps for SRAVANA 4,1913 (SAKA) of religious shrines 330 maintaining status quo ver spoken against resolving this is- site has been recognised as the most sue through negotiation. During sacred place from both historical and the tenure fo the former Prime Mi- religious points of view. Sit, we nisters Late Shri Rajiv Gandhi, Shri should think that no caste would Vishwanath Pratap Singh and Shri struggle for an insignificant thing or Chandra Shekhar, concerted efforts to cause for thousands of years, bum tackle this issue through negotiations themselves like a moth and sacrifice were made. Sir, Shri Chandra She- their lives. khar, while initiating an excellent measure to find a solution to this issue, had asked for evidence from Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is a hun- both sides. dred of years old dispute, not of to- day. There are evidences about it. Leave aside the British and Hindu On the basis of the literary, histo- historians, the Muslims historians rical and archaeological evidence, pro- themselves have accepted the fact duced by us and keeping in view that Babri Masjid was built by Ba- the actual state of things, it can be bat by demolihsing the Ram Janma- categorically stated that Babri Masjid bhoomi temple. Aurangazeb’s grand was built after demolishing Ram daughter had accepted this fact and Mandir. Similarly, scores of mus- the father of eminent scholar of Mus- lim brethren have announced that lim community Ali Mian, who is at they would accept and give this site present a resident of Lucknow, ac- to fee Hindus if it is proved by them knowledged this fact in his book that Babri Masjid was constructed af- also ter demolishing Ram Mandir. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Sir, all the evidence relating to He has never said such a thing. (In- this issue have been produced. Now terruptions) it is to consider that if Lord Ram was not bom there, how could there be a place of worship of another reli- MAHANT ABEDYA NATH: We gion at the entrance of the mosque. will produce evidence in this regard. If you personally visit Ayodhya, you (Interruptions) will find that the site in front of so called Babri Masjid is worshiped as Ram Janmabhoomi and this fact [English] has been accepted even by the entire Muslim community. That place has MR. CHAIRMAN: It is not pro- been recognised as the birth place of per. Please sit down. It is not pro Lord Rama and if it is in the pre- per that as soon as a Member speaks mises of the mosque, it is certain something which you do not like, that Lord Ram was bom there be- you go on interrupting. It is not fore Babar and that place definitely proper, please. existed before Babar. (Interruptions) Mr. Chairman, Sir, moreover, it [Translation] is necessary to consider thatmagnifi- cient temples of Lord Ram at the MAHANT ABEDYA NATH cost of crores of rupees are built They know that they have no reply in the entire Ayodhya. Therefore, to our arguments and hence they are keeping in view the religious and not allowing us to speak. Sir, if historical facts, that is the only place Goa could be retrieved after 400 where Lord Ram took birth. Only years...... a raised platform of 4' x 4' exists in the name of' Lord Rama whereas this ' (Interruptions) 331 Res. re. steps for JULY 26, 1991 o f religious shrines 332 maintaining status quo & places o f worship [English] status quo of all religiotis shrines SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: Sir, we and places of worship, first of all bring about the unification of India are all Members. We are neither and Pakistan. If you wish to main- representing Babri Masjid Action Committee nor Vishwa Hindu Pari- tain status quo, you have the right .(Interruptions) to make such a claim only when shad.. Are you rep- resenting Visfiwa Hindu Parishad? you restore the temples which ...... (Interruptions) are now in Pakistan or Bangladesh. If this resolution is passed, Hindus will not accept it and they will re- SHRI B.L. SHARMA PREM volt. . (Interruptions) As such, the (East-Delhi): We are representing movers of this resolution do not want Ram Janam Bhoomi... (Interrup- peace in the country. Will the Som- tions) nath temple be handed over to Mus- lims? Will the idols worshipped in Ayodhya since 1949 be removed SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: There from here after the bill is passed? Do is an attempt to communalise the you think that such a move would whole debate here. Please do not do restore peace in the country? The pas- Interruption$ that. { sing of such a bill can never bring peace. Peace can be restored only [Translation] when a law is enacted to this effect that those temples which were demo- MAHANT ABEDYA NATH: If lished and mosques built on those the lost independence could be gain- sites be given back to the Hindus. ed after a thousand years, why can’t Otherwise, you are aware that after we get our sacred place of worship the formation of Pakistan many mos- back which had been demolished ques were demolished in Haryana and mosque built there during those and Punjab and Gurdwaras were 400 years of slavery when we were built on those sites. Have you cou- helpless, weak and dependent... (Inr rage to demolish those Gurdwaras terruptions)... Sir, it is said and you and reconstruct mosques there? Such are also well aware about the fact things are not in the interest of the that many of our temples have be- country and you cannot establish uni- come a part of Pakistan after parti- ty between Hindus and Muslims in tion and in India also injustice is be- this way. If the Muslims brethem ing done with Hindus. The signs of are in favour of establishing Hindu temples are retained on the mosque Muslims unity in right earnest, for to humilitate Hindus. Similarly, 1 them the need of the hour is to ac- would like to express my views on cept reality and on the basis of his- the second part of this resolution. torical, circumstantial and archaeo- This part speaks of preserving and logical evidence, they should accept maintaining the status quo of all re- our demand for Ram Janmabhoomi. ligious shrines and places of worship In ancient times thousands of tem- as on August 15, 1947. Sir,' due to ples were demolished but we are not policy of appeasement male members making any demand for them. Our of a particular community are allow- demand is solely confined to those ed four marriages. Article 370 in temples whose remains are still in- the constitution is only to appease tact on the sites of mosques. (Inter- majorities. Similarly, today also, ruptions). In Varanashi the remains this resolution for preserving and of Vishwanath temples, which was maintaining status quo of all religious demolished and a mosque construct- shrine? and places of worship as ed on that site, remind the Hindus they existed on August 15, 1947, is of their plight in this independent being brought to appease that .partial , India. Even today the signs of sla- lar community! I wafl* to say that if very exist on the temple of Lord yoo are m favour of maintaining the Ranja who is worshipped by crores 333 Res. r&st&psfor SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) of religious shrines 334 maintaining status quo & places of worship of Hindus. The plight of Hindus sorry. As you said, this is definitely Uviag in this country is similar to a controversial subject and in a sub- that head of a family who is tied to ject of controversy, controversial a free members of his family are be- views, diametrical opposite views ing raped in his presence but he is will, of course, be there. But, what helpless. The Hindu community is the harm in expressing those views will continue their struggle to fight on this subject also in a very cordial against this embarrassment. You atmosphere. Such controversy or say that I am a member of Vishwa scene does not give a good impres- Hindu Parishad But all the elected sion of our conduct as hon. Mem- representatives have full right to ex- bers of sacred Parliament. press their views here. No Member can check the same. (Interruptions) As such, I would like to say that no As 1 said that this is a controver- such Bill should be moved in this sial issue. But, I think the Resolu- august House in the name of secula- tion, as suggested by the hon. Mem- rism which is a blow on the senti- ber Shri Zamal Abedin, is non-con- ments of eighty per cent Hindus liv- troversial. The Resolution, the wor- ing in this country. There is a move ding, the suggestion given, is not con- to divide and humiliate the Hindus troversial. According to me there for creating vote bank. They are can be no controversy ...{Interrup- being divided on the basis of castes tions) and in consequence it is causing ham to the unity between Hindus and SHRI LAL K. ADVAN1 (Gandhi Muslims. Nagar): Sir, I entirely agree with hon. Member, Shri Panigrahiji, that this is a matter, which even though With these words, I would request it is a controversial, it should be pos- you not to compel the Government to sible for the House to discuss the is- move such a bill...... sues and it pros and cons. Every one knows that our attitude and the (Interruptions) attitude of some other Members of the House is different on this parti- [English] cular issue. I would point out SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOU- DHURY (Katwa): After seeing what 15.36 his. [RAO RAM SINGH in is happening in the House. I want to the Chair] revive the old proposal that the pro- ceedings of Lok Sabha should be te- lecast so that the people of this also that till now two Members have country should have the opportunity spoken from my party. Shri Shreesh to know how we are behaving in Chandra Dikshit and Mahant Abed- this House (iMerrupttons) ya Nath. Both of them have tried to present the point of view of our party in a logical, rationale manner SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRA- with which someone may agree, HI (Deogarh): }Ar. Chairman, Sir, 1 some one may not agree and it was wonder whether this is, in fact, a the interruptions that created a diffe- Chamber of Parliament of India. All rent kind of climate. Then once that has happened and that is hap- Shri Dikshit and Mahant Abedya pening in the course of this Debate Nath were interrupted in this man- gives rise to a [Sh. Lai K. Advani] time to reply and to say whatever views you have got to put forward. express. But, unless we are willing Now, Mr. Advani was on his legs to hear each other, this is bound to and I would request not to interrupt happen. And, therefore, I would till he has finished. plead with die whole House that hereafter let this debate continue in a proper manner, points of views be SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Mr. expressed and then whatever be the Chairman, Sir, I have nothing more jeusion of the House will have to to add except that if for what I am be accepted ...(Interruptions). saying at the moment, I am sought to be shouted down by those ben- ches, then the reaction from this side MR. CHAIRMAN: I entire agree is bound to be there. Therefore, with what Shri Advaniji has said. 1 this attempt at shouting down Dik- think we are all mature people. We shitji, shouting down at Mahant should discuss this very very impor- Abedya Nathji is the root cause of tant national issue in a very logical the disturbance that has taken place and -mature manner. There is no during these three sessions. Other- room for showing emotions and also, wise this would not have happened. 1 must say, that there is no room for ...... (Interruptions) shouting slogans in the House. (Interruptions) SHRI CHANDRA JEET YA- DAV (Azamgarh): Mr. Chairman, SHRI LAL K. ADVANI : May we have great regards for our col- I submit something, Sir? I am en- league Shri Advaniji and respectfully tirely in agreement that this is House. wc listened to him. But this is not In ^act, there were solgans in this fair, because he is a senior Member, House when the oath-taking was tak- to just charge us that it is because ing place, and at that point of time other Members were interrupting. 1 had pointed out to my colleagues When Mr. Zainal Abedin was mov- that when the House meets for the ing this Resolution, you must have Joint Session, let us maintain com- noticed that time and again he was plete decorum and no chanting of interrupted, and when our friend «logam of any kind should be there. from the other side was just speak- And there was perfect order. But ing, the same thing happened. I to- here in this House, when from the tally agree with you that there should other side provocative remarks are be full freedom, of expression. We made, interruptions are made and must maintain the dignity and de- an affront is made...(Interruptions) corum of the House. We should al- low the Members to speak, unless MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit and until there is anything where down. Please do not interrupt. I will vou feel that with your permission give chance to evey hon. Member to somebody wants to say something. I pot forth his views in a calm and think this is a very sensitive issue. collected manner. But I would re- We all agree to this. Therefore, I quest you that everybody has got a will request you Advaniji to please right to speak, and when a seniot ask your Members also not to shout. Member like Mr. Advani is speak- It is not that our side is doing and ing, I would kindly request you not they are not doing it Nobody should to interrupt...... interrupt. (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: O.K., thank you. I think there is no harm hi MR. CHAIRMAN: If you do % little bit of friendly bent of that not agree with' his views. I pro- kind. But I would ‘ request every- mis you I shall give you adequate body to keep his dr her emotions 337 Re*, re. steps for SRAVANA 4,1913 (Sa Ka ) of religious shrines 338 BHtintofning status quo ^ places of worship within check. Although I do not also. When we are engaging ourselves like to say, because Mr. Advani is in this, I would say that it is a petty, a very senior Member, but because narrow issue and we are indulging in there was a precedence of slogan it as if there are no national pro- shouting at one time or the other that blems. In fact, we have our very does not give any licence for slogan solidarity, integrity and national unity shouting to be continued. So, I would, being threatened and if this sort of with folded hands, request all sections controversy is allowed to develop, of the House that please let us not in- that would further aggravate the situa- dulge in any slogan shouting in the tion. Our attempt to divide the House country along caste lines and along communal lines would further aggra- vate and endanger our national unity SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRA and national solidarity. Therefore, HI: Thank you, Sir. I think witb Sir, it has to be resolved, through this, good sense will prevail and we mutual discussion as early as possible. will have a very cordial atmosphere in this House over this debate. I am not going to the origin of this controversy, it has been dealt at length by some previous speakers. Of Sir, this is no doubt a sensitive is- course, I wonder because in history, sue and this has sparked off contro- I may be ignorant about it but what versy in the form of communal riots we read is that Babar advised his son claiming 564 lives in police firing. to respect all religious sentiments and Communal riots had sparked off be- religious places of all communities cause of this Babri Masjid-Ram irrespective of their religion. This is Janam Bhoomi controversy and the what we used to read when we were resultant police firing killed an esti- students in High School or even ear- mated 564 people within a brief pe- lier. How can such a person be riod from 1st September to 20th No- blamed today for the demolition of a vember, 1990. There were as many mandir, I wonder. If our friends on as forty major riots all over the the other side have a convincing country. The consequence of this proof, well, I think there is some was so serious. forum and I think that forum is still open for the evidence to be adduced or for placing the documents etc. They It is all a meaningless controversy. claim to possess records about all these Why should there be such a contro- things, but we have read in our stu- versy over this sensitive issue? It is dent days that Babar was a liberal better if all of us, atleast political administrator, a liberal king, and so parties, develop proper attitude and he advised his son to behave this way. proper approach to this because as {Interruptions). Of course, you can you know, all political parties are come with your proof or evidence etc. committed to communal harmony, whatever you have. communal amity and they are also committed to promote secularism. Of course, in this respect some of us So, it has to be resolved and as you are doing something else. But we know, the secularism that I was refer- take oath under the Constitution and ring to is the cornerstone of our na- in our very Preamble to the Constitu- tionhood. Secularism in our country, tion we have this provision of secu- as you know, is the pivot of our an- larism and we are committed to it. cient culture and its unity in diversity. When this controversy is there and It is our responsibility to strengthen communal riots do take place, it also the national unity and integrity irres- has its repercussions outside India. pective of different castes, religions We find reaction in other countries and ethnic minorities. 339 Res. re. steps for JULY 26, 1991 of religious shrines 340 maintaining status quo A places of worship. [Shi Sriballav Panigrahi] Times of India, he has given an inter- view. In that interview, he says there We are following the path of our are so many burning problems which great Congress leaders for strengthen- need our immediate attention like pro- ing the unity of the country. Several blems of price rise, unemployment great leaders of Congress have sacrifi- etc. He is a very good actor who had ced their lives for putting off the fire acted in the TV Serial Ramayan as of communalism. It is very easy to Ravana and he is now elected on the whip up communalism, to arouse com- BJP ticket. He said that this temple munal passions, but we should remain construction can wait. Further he has far away from that. In our country stated that this problem can be settled it is very difficult to do so. Ours is through peaceful negotiations. So, what a country where Buddha, Asoka, Shri Arvind Trivedi has said is in the Gandhi and Jawaharlal were bom same spirit of the resolution. The Op- and they were the torch bearers of position Leader Shri Advani, while peace and non-violence not only in speaking earlier, said that they have India, but in the world at large and got a mandate. in such a country, now violence is overtaking us threatening our unity and integrity. So, now we should MR. CHAIRMAN: That is not calmly address ourselves to this pro- the subject of the resolution. You blem and there is no problem without kindly speak on the subject matter of a solution. No problem is there the resolution. which is beyond a solution. There is a solution; there could be a peaceful SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRA- folution. Therefore, as Shri Zainal HI: Sir, in this land, we are Abedin has suggested, this problem committed to promote secularism can be settled through mutual discus- and without secularism we cannot sions. I was told that such discussions move an inch forward in strengthen- were fruitless and futile exercises ing our national unity and integrity, were going on for a long time. If which is the need of the hour. In a it was left half way, I think, we can country of India’s dimension, these again start it. If there is no solution kind of problems can be settled through mutual discussions, then na- through peaceful negotiations. If turally we have to depend upon the negotiations fail, then we have to go court of law. We have the rule of by the Court decision. We have law and it is not a lawless jungle. So, achieved our independence 44 years we have to abide by the Court deci- ago on 15th August, 1947. Now, we sion. want to pass a law for maintaining the status quo of all places of wor- Sir, Shri Dixit went on harping that ship, as they were on the famous day right from the beginning they are when we achieved our independence. abiding by the decision of the Court What is wrong about it? We have and they had never ignored the Court our own problems. The world is decision. We welcome this stand. If . changing. The society is changing- our friends are abiding by the Court We have to keep running to keep in decision right from the beginning, tone with the changing circumstances wfiy can they not abide the last deci- of the world. Otherwise, we will be sion also? The matter is now pend- left behind. There is a question of ing in the Allahabad High Court. So, hunger; there is a question of back- they should abide by the final verdict wardness. We have to fight regiona- p f the Court. , lism which is also showing its ugly head. No religion is bad. It is not bad: also t6 be religious. Secularism Then,Sir, I would really appreciate does nor say tffirt it is non-religious, th* stand taken t>y the BJP Member but equal respect for all religions. It Shri Arvind Triveii. In today’s ir'b&d to be communal'. But it iit 341 Res. re, steps for SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) of religious shrines 342 maintaining status quo & places of worship not bad to be religious. It is good Communalism is the biggest challenge to be religious. All religions basical- to the country these days. Sir, ac- ly stand for better human being, bet- cording to the Report of the Home ter life and humaneness. There is a Ministry, 831 people have lost their serious conflict going on in every- lives so far in the communal riots body’s mind and heart between the which were a result of Ayodhya Pro- evil forces and good forces. It is the blem. religion which helps the good forces to defeat the evil forces in this con- Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is the big- flict. Those who want to create mis- gest problem which the country is chief with political motives, those who facing today and the people who want to make some selfish gains try create friction on the basis of trifling to interpret religion in a different way religious issues are mainly responsible to suit their design and convenience. for these tensions. Because of these Therefore, what is needed in the pre- communal clashes children, women sent context is, we should separate and innocent people are killed. My religion from politics. It is being submission is that this House should done in other countries also. consider this problem very deeply. Let us be religious but let us not Mr. Chairman, Sir, communalism bring in religion into politics and starts in the name of religion, When pollute the Indian national atmos- the people of one community identify phere or nationhood. themselves as different from other communities, then communalism takes With these words, I make an appeal root. to all concerned that let us rise above all these small things and try to be Mr. Chairman, Sir, when religion is Indian first, Indian second and Indian operated by those people v/ho have last and also try to strengthen our blind faith, it gives rise to communa- unity, integrity and build up a strong lism. When religion is associated united India. with external ostentations and wrong standards the result is communal psyche. It is also the result of loss [Translation] of human values and confinement of religion to stones, temples, mosques SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD and customs. Whenever “fundamen- YADAV (Jhanjharpur): Mr. Chair- talism was rampant in this country, man? Sir, I support the Motion mov- there were atrocities on communal ed by Shri Zainal Abedin Sahib. This lines and the society and nation be- is a Private Members’ Resolution and came weak. Now-a-days the funda- is of national importance. It is link- mentalist forces want to make poli- ed with the question of security of tical capital out of religion therefore the nation and safeguarding the prin- they keep the countrymen away from ciples of secularism. Sir, it is my the basic realities" of religion and humble submission that we should take them nearer to the systems of discuss this matter rising above party worshio, idols, temples and mosques politics. so that the people remain far away from the real problems of the nation, and help bring the person to power as Mr. Chairman, Sir, I believe that a saviour of their faith. Now, no- the way the facts are presented, argu- body can deny this fact that politics ments and counter arguments are is behind increasing communal ten- made*:it "does.' not lead us to truth. sions. But it will not serve any pur- So we should discuss this important pose by merelv holding the tommu- problem in -a peaceful manner. This nalisfs uespdffSiHefor conv^ting^ ^po- is a national and a burning problem. litics iftto communalism. Wepeopte 343 Res. re. steps for JuLY 26, 1991 of religious .shrines 344 maintaining status quo & places of worship [Sh. Devendra Prasad Yadav] AN 'HONOURABLE MEMBER: Please speak on the subject alone. who are in favour of bringing changes in the politics of the country cannot SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD shirk our responsibility because we YADA V: Please listen to L'1e sub- have not been able to effectively com- ject.. ..([f1terruptiOl1s)... Mr. Chair- bat this ideology which is knowingly man, Sir, Babri Masjid was construc- or unknowingly allowed to function. ted in 1528. What is the reason that till now there was no harm to Hin- duism in spite of the presence of Babri Masi-id? How did it change. Some Hon. Members have just all at once. Why after 40-42 years hinted towards it. When we were of independence Hinduism cannot studying in the college, we were taught exist if Rama Mandir is not construc- "Good conductor and bad conductor" ted at the site of Babri Masjid? in Physics. Now-a-days some poli- What kind of Hinduism is ,this? Who tical people in this country neglect the will decide it after 40 years of inde- bad conductor and catch hold of good pendence."?,, ,(Interruptions) Today conductor in order to flare up com- Vishwa Hindu Parishad makes an munal frenzy and create communal announcement that they, will construct tensionin the country. If an iron rod a temple there after demolishing the is heated at one end, the other end mosque ... ilraerruptions). " That is also gets .heated up. Likewise if riots why I want to say that now-a-days and communal feelings flare up at one common men, Hindus and Muslims, end it spreads to the other end also, want to live as brothers but deliberate i.e. it spreads to other parts also. attempts are made to divide them. Today,' the people belonging to The interests of minorities are under- Vishwa Hindu Parishad are giving mined and their religious feelings are the slogan of "Jai Shri Rama", I want hurt. I was mentioning this because to tell them that this country does not in this country ... belong to "Jai Shri Rama" alone. Poor people, downtrodden and ex- ploited people are also a part of this SHRI RAJVEER SINGH (Aonla): country. Today, agirations to coun- Mr. Speaker, Sir, my religious feel- ter the problems of price-rise, un- ings are hurt when the honourable employment and corruption are not Member speaks these words. (Inter- given due importance. Now-a-days, ruptions) if there is a struggle against price-rise and corruption in one part of the SHRI' DEVENDRA PRASAD country it does not spread to another YADAV: As far as hurting of re- part but if the communal harmony ligious feelings is concerned, the Rama between Hindus and Muslims is dis- Rath Yatra started in the name of turbed in one part it moves through- Rama Mandir, was it for the good of out the country. Some people give 52 per cent backward people. It was it a political colour and exploit it a method adopted for blocking 27 fully to gain political foothold and per cent reservation for the backwards, power. but 'nobody can tolerate it. ... (InterruptiOlllS) ... We did not intend India is a vast country: It is the land to say all this, but when you provoke of Gandhi and Mahatma Buddha. us, we have to say these things. J Communalism will be crushed here. want to say because ...(ll1ferruptiol1S) Some clever leaders are giving loud .. .as far as the question of taking of statements here. I wanted to speak the Rama Ratha Yatra to Ayodhya on this topic at the time of budzet is concerned, it 'was... ([lJ!terruptions) and even now I will speak on this ... taken out not for the safety of subiect altho rgh it is a 'Private Mem- Hinduism but to uphold the caste sys- ber's Resolution ... (Interruptions) ... tem only... . 345 Res.revste^fm SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) of religious scrims mamtmmng status quo & places of worship [ErtgHsf*t tion of the recommendations of Man- dal Commission would be decided by MR.- CHAIRMAN: He is on a court and the issue of Ram Temple point of order. would be decided taking into tie?: (Interruptions) sentiments of the people, I would like to mention this thing SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: Sir, a because 52 per cent people are back- few minutes ago Shri Advani advised ward, 85 per cent are poor, depressed this House that there should not be and exploited. If there is any ques- any interruptions when a Member is tion of the welfare of such people, it speaking. Let it be maintained. will be referred to High Court where it will remain undecided for long. MR. CHAIRMAN: There is a Then there will be the decision of the point of order. Please sit down. court. Regarding Ram Mandir, nei- ther court order nor the constitution (Interruptions) nor the feelings would be accepted. Who will decide the case? As far as MR. CHAIRMAN: Kindly sit the general consensus and feelings are down. That hon. Member has raised concerned, it should be discussed as a point of order. He will be given to whose sentiments would be res- full opportunity to raise his point of pected .. .(Interruptions)-. .1 have men- order. tioned this because I think that riots have not taken place in states where [Translation] the administration acted in a non- PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT partisan manner to maintain communal (Ajmer): Sir, the person who occu- harmony. I would like to cite the pying tie chair before you had said example of Bihar in this regard. It that every person will speak for not has been proved beyond doubt in more than 10 minutes. He has ex- Bihar, particularly during the elec- ceeded ten minutes. He did not allow tions. Some political parties wanted honourable mahant Abedya Nathji. to flare up communal frenzy in the {Interruptions) name of construction of Ram temple but the people knew their game and remained united. That was the main MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take reason why there were riots in other your seat. I have listened to your parts of the country whereas Bihar point or order. I feel the subject which remained peaceful. There were no is being debated at the moment is a riots in the State. The Chief Minister very important subject, therefore, the of Bihar deserves to be congratulated time m iy be increased from 10 minu- for this. The ‘Ram Rath* which tes to 20 minutes. That would be flared up communal tension in the better. You allow him to speak. name of construction of Ram Temple Now, your point of order is over. ...(Interruptions) Take your seat, please. SHRI VINAY KATTYAR (FaK SHRT DEVENDRA PRASAD zabad): The hon. Member should YADAV: Mr. Chairman, Sir, there speak on the related subject. He in is duality of approach in this country. side tracking the issue and iust deli- There are some shrewd leaders in this vering a lone speech. He does cot country, they get wide publicity, and know the facts about the controversy. they are attractive also, that is why He should speak the facts relating to I want to mention all these things. the topic under discussion. When light for social justice was go- ing-on in this country they issued a MR. CHAIRMAN; This is not ft crafty s tatement that die implementa- point of onitr. 23—15 LSS/ND/91 347 Res* re. steps for JULY 26, 199J of religious shrines 348 maintaining status quo & places of worship SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD when he said fake Rama. We were YADAV: Mr. Chairman, Sir, some discussing Maryada Purushottam Lord parties have launched a campaign for Rama here.. .(Interruptions).. .It should the construction of Ram temple. I be expunged from the. proceedings. would like to point out categorically It is not an ordinary thing. Syed that the poor in our country...(Inter- Shahabuddin is sitting here. Had ruptions)...recitt the name of Rama, anybody referred to Allah in this but they adore the Maryada Puru- way... (Interruptions). Lord Rama shcnmn Lord Rama and not the fake cannot be put to disgrace like this... Rama. ..(Interruptions).. .Mr. Chair- (Interruptions). man, Sir, the poor in the villages have a firm belief that Lord Rama will emancipate them from misery...(In- SHRI B. L. SHARMA PREM terruptions)...Hivm when they fall (East-Delhi): We cannot afford to listen the word ‘fake Rama*...(Inter- sick they recite the name of Rama ruptions). but these people are misusing the name of Rama...(Interruptions)... AN HON. MEMBER: Mr. Chair- SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA man, Sir, he should withdraw the (Padrauna): Mr. Qiairman, Sir, the word ‘fake’. (Interruptions) Constitution stipulates that the reli- gious sentiments . of no community MR. CHAIRMAN: If there is should be hurt. Lord Rama is wor- anything which hurts the religious shipped throughout the country and sentiments of somebody in that part he is considered to be God. Fortuna- of the proceedings, I would request tely the hon. Member is a Hindu but the hon. Speaker to expunge it. even then he has used words like fake Rama...(Interruptions)... This should (Interruptions) be expunged from the proceedings of the House.. .(Interruptions)... SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD YADAV: I did not pass any re- MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit marks about Maryada Purushottam down. The point of order raised by Lord Rama. I always speak with the hon. Member regarding fake a sense of responsibility. I was Ram?.-is not valid. He will not make referring to those who recite the name such remarks about Lord Rama who of Rama like is referred as god... "Ek kilo Mein Nau So Gram, Jai (Interruptions) Sri Rama Tolo Kam, Bolo Bam” MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Mem- Not I alone but the entire country ber never intended to hurt the reli- worships Maryada Purushottam Lord gious sentiments of anybody. Now Rama. (Interruptions) for that matter n y name is Ram Singh. I can be a feke Rama. But MR. CHAIRMAN: Yadavji this does not mean that Lord Rama please close this chapter now. is fake...(Interruptions). (Interruptions) AN HON. MEMBER: The word ‘fake Rama’ should be expunged SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD from the proceedings.. .(Interrup- YADAV: Mr. Chairman, Sir, this tions). is not justified that the hon. Mem- bers of one side are allowed to speak SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: for two hours whereas the Members Mr. Chairman, Sir, I accept your rul- of the other side get very little time* ing. Whom did he want to refer . (Interruptions) 349 Res. re. steps for SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) of religious shrines 350 maintaining status quo & places of worship MR. CHAIRMAN: Now please the matter is not accepted by these conclude. Members from both sides people, the religious sentiments of have enjoyed your speech. minorities and those who believe in secular principles would be hurt. (Interruptions) Now they are saying that the cons- truction work cf the temple would SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD commence at the disputed site in YADAV: I do not believe in hav- November, ‘Mandir Waheen Bana- ing two faces under one hood. Mr. yenge’ (the temple would be built Chairman, Sir, I am speaking on the there itself), they say. (Interruptions) subject under discussion and not side tracking. (Interruptions) Sir, 1 was submitting my view point but Mr. Chairman, Sir, this issue is not there were lot of interruptions in bet- restricted to Ayodhya only, it invol- ween. ves 3,000 disputed shrines. If a temple is constructed at any of these disputed sites, the country will be MR. CHAIRMAN: I would divided, f Interruptions) request the hon. Members to allow two more minutes to him to wind up and let the proceedings continue. Mr. Chairman, Sir, today the coun- If you do not allow him to speak the try is on the brink of disintegration. time of the House will be wasted. 1946-47 witnessed the worst com- munal riots, the country was partitio- [English] ned. That great humanitarian, Mahatma Gandhi, the greatest ad- SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cut- vocate of secularism stood for equa- tack): These Members cannot dic- lity for one and all, Hindus, Sikhs, tate terms to the Chair. This is Muslims, Christians etc. in the coun- very unfair. The hon. Member try (Interruptions) who is on his legs must be allowed to make his points. (Interruptions) Mr. Chairman, Sir, which force of our country snatched away Mahatma MR. CHAIRMAN: No interrup- Gandhi from our midst at that time? tions please. Shri Devendra Prasad, Those very forces are today once please address the Chair and don’t again raising their heads in the name indulge in cross talks. of the construction of the temple. (Interruptions) They snatched away (Interruptions) our beloved Babu Gandhiji who sac- rificed his life for the cause of human [Translation] values. (Interruptions) SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD YADAV: Mr. Chairman, Sir, I MR. CHAIRMAN: I request was making my point but I was you, not to interrupt him. (Interrupt interrupted repeatedly. I need your tions) protection. Mr. Chairman, Sir, Maryada Purushottam Lord Rama [English] invaded Lanka to kill demon Ravana MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit who symbolised injustice. But we down. Do not interrupt him. never heard invasion of Ayodhya in the name of Rama. Ayodhya is wit- {Interruptions) ness to it in recent times. The peo- ple of Vishwa Hindu Parishad..... MR. CHAIRMAN: Kindly sit (Interruptions) down. Now, I called Shri Mohan Rawle to speak. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I was submit- ting that if decision of the Court in (Interruptions) 351 Aes. re. steps for JULY 26, 1991 o f religious shines -J52 maintaining status quo &. places of worship SHRI SROCANTA JENA: If he Now. tfaere is a pointof order. Shri is not allowed to complete, we will Kapse. also oot allow anybody to speak from this side. Is this the way to inter- (Interruptions) rupt a Member? (Interruptions) SHRI RAM KAPSE (Thane): My MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit point of order is this. The present speaker spoke in so many words down. about who murdered Mahatma Gan- (Interruptions) dhi and other things. Mahatma Gandhi murder case was decided long MR. CHAIRMAN: Please con- back and it was decided that oaly clude now. Godse was responsible for that and no other force was working with him. (Interruptions) A charge was made during his speech and there was nothing to prove his MR. CHAIRMAN: I have al- charge. So, I request you to kindly ready called Shri Mohan Rawle to look into the matter and that his speak. words should be expunged. (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: I will look into the matter and the Speaker will [Translation] also look into the matter. MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take (Interruptions) your seats. What Shri Mohan Vishnu Rawle say will only go on record. [Translation] (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Deven- dra Prasad Yadav, please trice your MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing seat. You are crossing the limits. is going on record, please sit down. [English] (Interruptions)* MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Yadav, I have given you sufficient chance. IE*#*] Now, Shri Mohan Rawle. MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing {Interruptions) is t>eing recorded. Kindly sit down. [Translation] (Interruptions)* SHRI MOHAN VISHNU RAWLE MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing (Bombay South Central): Mr. Chair- is being recorded. Please take your man, Sir, some hon. Members of seats. the House have demanded that evi- dence in support of Rama Jaaam- (Interruptions)* bhoomi be produced before the House. H ie hon. Member, who has MR. CHAIRMAN: When I am just now concluded his speech said on my feet, you should sit down. that the Babri Masjid was constructed in 1528. We have evidence with us (Interruptions)* of that period too, to prove our claim. If the. Babri Masjid was MR CHAIRMAN: Nothing constructed in 1528 A.D., then let will be recorded unless you sit down. me add here that the struggle for the •Not recorded. 153 Mes.re. steps for SRAVANA4, 19I3j(S4A^4) of religious shrines 354 ma^tainwg status quo & places of worship restoration of the Rama' Janambhoo- are in Persian and bear the date mfc temple has been going on since 935 AH. This date may be that then, and it will continue till the of the completion of the building.” goal is achieved. Lord Rama is India's ideal. People, both at home [Translation] aiid atooad were reminded and made aWare of Marydda Purushottam The so called Babri Masjid is in Rama’s Meals, through the popular fact the original site of the Raim television serial ‘Ramayana’. Mahat- Temple. Every mosque has within ma Gandhi dreamt of establishing its precincts, a tank, which the wor- a ‘Rama Rajya’ in India, we tco are shippers use for washing their hands committed towards that goal. But before offering prayers. This is the in order to establish ‘Rama Rajya’. case with mosques all over the world, it is imperative to re-construct Rama but in the Mosque at Ayodhya. it’s temple at the original site. Now I not there. Moreover, the idols of will place before you the evidences, Gods and Goddesses are there on we have in this regard...... (Interrup- the walls of the so-called "Mosque'. tions) There is not a singie Mosque in the world where prayers are offered to anyone other than Allah, but in this [English] particular structure, people pay obeisance to Lord Rama. Not only MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do this, this mosque has no minarets not interrupt. and there is no evidence to prove that ‘Namaz’ was offered here. (Interruptions) Wonder of wonders, the sanctum sanctorum (Garbha Griha) has a SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA ‘Parikrama’ around it. Further, WASNIK (Buldana): Sir, during had it been a Mosque, the western the election campaign, they had been side wall should have been plain. saying that if they come to power, The temple of Lord Rama was closed they would remove Mahatma Gan- for worship and locked in 1949, but dhi’s statue and * in its place would later on, the temple was thrown open install Nathuram Godse’s statue. to the public for the purpose of wor- What are they talking about Mahatma ship under the orders of the court dff Gandhi’s Ramrajyal (Interruptions) law. Mahmood Ghazni was respon- sible for the destruction of the Som- MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do nath temple. Our First President not interrupt. Dr. Rajendra Prasad and Sardar Val- labbhai Patel, on whom “Bharat Ratna’ has been conferred, took (Interruptions) active part in the re-construction of the Somnath shrine. The rejuvena- [Translation] tion and the re-construction of that SHRI MOHAN VISHNU RAWLE: temple took place with the express Let me quote from page No. 22: consent of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, one of the stalwarts of the Party, [English] which is occupying the treasury ben- ches today. We had hoped that “In 1528 AD, Babar came to Ayo- in continuance of that legacy, they dbya (Aud) and halted for a week. would allow us to construct the Rama He destroyed the ancient temple temple also, unfortunately, they did (marking the birth place of Rama) not. Then we moved the Court. and on its site built a mosque, still Prayers are being offered there since known as Babar’s mosque...... It 1949 to date and the Priest performs has two inscriptions one on the the ‘Archana’ under police protec- outside, one on the pulpit; both tion. In 1986, the temple gates 355 Res. re. steps for JULY 26, 1991 o f religious shrines 356 maintaining status quo & places o f worship [Sh. Mohan Vishnu Rawle] Bombay Municipality, that Members were formally unlocked. It is most of his community won’t sing that unfortunate that we are being dubbed song. They are opposing that very as communalists. When the temple slogam of ‘Vande Mataram’, which was thrown open to the public for inspired a number of our Muslim worship in 1986, under the orders of breathren to lay down their life for the court of law, riots took place and the country. They are opposing it atrocities were committed on us. in the name of religion. It was this Not only this, riots took place in very slogan that inspired millions of Pakistan too and Hindu shrines were our countrymen to sacrifice their deserated and destroyed. What do precious life for the country. It is speak of Pakistan, in independent our national song and we should have India itself, more than 40 temples respect for it. Religion should in were badly damaged and destroyed no way come in its way. in the State of Jammu and Kashmir. Today, these very people are accus- MR. CHAIRMAN: This is not ing us of being communalists. I the subject matter of the Resolution. would like to know from them, whe- ther there is a single mosque in the SHRI MOHAN VISHNU RAWLE: country, which has even slightly been 1 am saying all this because they are damaged. The answer is a flat accusing us of being communalists. no. We regard Lord Rama as our (Interruptions) idol, he never did injustice to any- one, we too are not doing that We SHRI SYED SHAHABUDD1N are not for constructing a temple over (Kishanganj): Please do not use some mosque. We are just deman- this august House for anti-religious ding the site which originally belongs propaganda. to us. Today, those very people, who SHRI MOHAN VISHNU RAWLE: speak of ‘Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam’ ‘Vande Mataram’. written by Bankim (that the whole Universe is one fami- Chandra Chatterjee is the glory of ly) are opposing the construction of our nation. {Interruptions) this temple in the name of religion [English] and they are fanning communalism in the country. Wien we say that SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHAT- Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and Chris- TERJEE: Sir, he-does not know who tians are all brothers, I wonder penned the poem. Forgive his ignor- why we don’t have a uniform law for ance, but expunge those remarks...... everyone? It is most unfortunate. (Interruptions) These people are cowards just now. one of the hon. Members said that this problem should be settled accord- [Translation] ing to constitutional provisions, then certainly we should have a uniform MR. CHAIRMAN: Please wind up. civil code too, as per the constitution, but they are not prepared for that SHRI MOHAN VISHNU RAWLE: because they don’t want to lose their Mr. Chairman, Sir, those people who vote bank and they want the people divided the country on religious lines to remain divided on communal and who were responsible for the crea- lines. The national song ‘Vande tion of Pakistan are today preventing Matram’ is sung throughout the coun- the community from joining the try. Literally speaking, the song is national main^^am in the name of an obeisance to Mother India, but religion. It is my humble submission unfortunately one of the important that India can remain as one entity, leaders of the ruling party declared only if the temple of Lord Ramav during the election compaign for the our national idol, is reconstructed. It 357 Res. re* steps for SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SA KA) of religious shrines 358 maintaining status quo & places of worship is our demand that the Government say that this issue is not of a temple should allow the construction of the or a mosque, which are built of bricks, temple, at its original site itself. J stones, lime and cement but it is a request you do agree to it. I am grate- national issue and if we are keen to ful to you for giving me an oppor- achieve national unity and are in tunity to speak. favour of restoring peace, goodwill and cordial relations with each other, all of us should look at this issue SMT VIJAYARAJE SCIND1A from national point of view. (Guna): Sir, I feel that the manner in which this important issue was being No caste or nation can survive with debated a short while ago in this au- self respect by separating itself from gust House, was creating nothing else its culture or glory. I would like to but bitterness and this kind of bitter- say whether we are Hindus, Muslims, ness would certainly hurt those who Christians or Buddhists or followers are sincerely interested in the unity of of any other religion, we cannot deny the country. I think what I am going the fact that Lord Rama and Krishna to say will not be liked by either of were outstanding figures of this coun- the sides. I would like to present a try’s culture and were the worthy sons bitter truth before you. Instead of of mother India. Irrespective of the dragging this issue, which is before us, religion, that the people of this coun- it is important for us to peep into try follow, is it not a matter of pride ourselves and find out whether we are for them that these worthy sons are really interested in unity, integrity, remembered even today after thou- peace, brotherhood and goodwill of sands of years? I would like to sub- the country? If we are. I feel that this mit that you may not take Ram as is not the way to achieve it. This is incarnation of the Almighty but you an important issue. What request cannot deny or negate the fact that should I make? It is fair neither for Ram was a national personality. this side nor that to drag the name of Lord Ram into any dispute because 1 think, Ram is a national figure. Sir, this august House is the most ,He is my God or almighty anci is prestigious institution of our country considered so by lakhs and crores of where laws are enacted. I remember people but in this august House we that during the course of a debate on are taking this issue as a national this issue one of our friends had said issue. that this House was neither a mosque nor a temple, it was a House of Lok Sabha. But Sir, in my views this Sir, every community, society and House is a mosque, a temple, a church, nation has its own honour, glory and a Gurdwara and as a matter of fact culture and no one can break rela- everything for us. In this august tionship with one’s culture which one House we make laws in the nation’s has inherited. Our ancient culture does interest and as such whatever is said not belong to any particular religion. here should be honourable and digni- Hinduism, Islam or Christianity but fied and we are the Members of such it belongs to every person living in a prestigious House. A few days back ^this country and Lord Ram is a sym- we took oath. Sir, some of us took bol of ‘Maryada Purushottam’ to us. the oath in the name of God where- •Will any one, whether he is a Mus- as others in the name of truth but I •lim or a Christian or follower of some think whether you take the oath in k>ther religion, say that he does not the name of God or in the name of Recognize him as ‘Maryada Purshot- truth it is one and the same thing tam*? Can any one refuse to accept because truth is also a form of God. him as a national figure ? Were Ram As such this House is a temple, a and Krishna not our ancestors? Was mosque, a church or whatever you Babar our ancestor? I would like to consider it to be and the person seat- 359 Res. re. steps far JULY 26, 1991 o f religious .shrines 360 maintaining status quo A places o f worship [Smt. Vijayaraje Scindia] Today our country is surtounded %y many problems. There are economic cd on the speaker’s chair can be re- problems. Apart from this, various garded as ‘PoojarT or a priest or a secessionist forces are' threatening us. Maulvi. You are placed in a presti- The situation is so deteriorated that gious position and we are all here to one day our economic position will so find solution to the problems of the worsen that it will be very difficult country. to regain it. That day is not far away. Let us come together and solve this Friends, I would like to submit that issue by mutual understanding and we cannot depart from our ancient move forward with the belief that culture, glory and honour. The soci- Lord Ram is a national figure. Let ety which distances itself from its an- us not forget that during the age of cient culture and its glory for the Lord Ram there were no religions. At simple reason that they have changed that time humanity was the religion. their religion, is a wrong attitude. Hence, on the basis of that humanity Religious conversion is something 1 would make an appeal to recognize else. Religiosity is a personal matter the glory of our country and see Ram But the nation’s dignity, glory and its temple from that angle. I would also cultural heritage belongs to all of us like to request my own countrymen irrespective of the religion one follow* to understand that friction will lead and the same blood flows in our veins. us nowhere. I realize that you are Our ancestors were one and we should unhappy from the core of your heart, be pcoud of our forefathers to whom your feelings have been injured and we the existence of this country. you are unhappy over the fact that for the sake of a great personality, like As such we should adopt emotional Lord Ram, we are struggling and approach to solve this issue. For this fighting so much. country emotional integration is ab- solutely essential. If we want coun- try’s unity, we should first be emo- I request you all to go through tionally united and as all of us are the the pages of history in order to know progeny of Mother India, we should the fact. We can never make progress live cordially as one family. We can and amend our ways by leaving differ in ideologies whether we belong history aside. There was a time when to Bharatiya Janta Party or Commu- invaders equipped with swords nist or Congress Party. Everyone has came to our country from outside full right to follow any ideology. We and forcibly removed sacred have right to express our views in this threads of our ancestors, cut House but we do not have any right their chotis (braids) and forcibly to construct anybody. It is against the converted their religion. In that hour decorum of this House. of terror and shock, our ancestors met a very harsh treatment at the hands As such I request you not to forget of their own kith and kin. When they your past dignity and glory whether sought shelter in their own society, they are my Muslim friends or Chris- they were treated mercilessly. Natu- tians and with folded hands I would rally, when the man is in trouble he like to tell them that if they forget the looks to his near and dear for love past glory of this country they would and sympathy. So, at that time they restrict themselves and remain confin- also looked to their families with a ed to their limited thoughts whether great hope. But doors were closed they are Hindus or Muslims or Chris- for them and they were Mrshly ask- tians I believe that it is not possible ed to go out because they were sup- to find solution to any of the problems posed to be ciit-caste then. They did in the event of our confining ourselves not find shelter in fl&fer own houses. to a limited sphere and seeing the I would lik& to aA^wheUier it was w@rld rfram a aarrow attitude. proper* to do so? 4Hdw M t^ly wmild 361 Res. re. steps for SRAVANA 4, 191 ;> (SAKA) of religious shrines 362 ‘maintaining- status quo & places of worship have they felt then and how bitterly completing his dedication and devo- would have they wept when they stood tion, had once liberated the Ram-Ja- before their houses and the doors of nam-Bhoomi there. After liberating which had been closed for them and it he made all the proper arrange- no one was there to accept them? Just ments there. But a clash broke out imagine. After weeping a lot, when there again after his departure from they would have come to their senses, that place. There has been blood shed they would have departed from there from time to time over the centuries after taking a vow never to come back in which many people have lost their there even by mistake. Since a man lives. This issue is not new one, rather cannot live without a religion or a faith this has been going on since the had they embraced another religion Masjid was constructed there. I praise in those circumstances, then whose and give credit to the Muslims of Fai- fault it is? It is ours. So, this is the zabad and Ayodhya, who never need of the home to create a condu- raised such a controversy at least cive atmosphere in which we can re- since 1936 over offering their Namaz ctify our mistakes, embrace our own in that very Masjid. people and learn to respect religious sentiments of others. I expect the same from that side that they respect Rama. 1 appeal to all my Muslim, Chris- They should extend their co-opera- tian and other friends not to separate tion in the construction of Rama themselves from the name of Lord temple at Ayodhya by rising above Rama. Lord Rama belongs to we all. this controversy. At present, He presents a high ideal for each of there are many complex problems us. He teaches us how to lead our in the country. An easy solution lives. I would like to request all of to all those problems will come you to tell me whether it is mentioned out if we unitedly construct Rama in any Granth (book) be it Veda or temple there. We should work toge- Purana that the word ‘Hindu’ existed ther to bring emotional integration at all during the period of Lord Rama. among the members of the different During that period there was neither communities in the country. We Hindu nor Muslim in the country nor should embrace one another and tell was there any Masjid on that place. that Rama belongs to we all be they Hindus or Muslims or Christians. He does not symbolize any particular community or religion. He is above I like very much the first half of this Resolution but as far as its second everything. He is the symbol of the nation. He is acknowledged not only half is concerned, I would like to by we Indians but by humanity as a say you all that there is danger of eruption of clashes again in case whole as the Maryada Purushottam. this is passed in toto because to my As you know, Sir, that even our Arya- knowledge several Gurudwaras and samaji brothers consider Him as a Mandirs have been built after demo- grand personality of high ideals lishing Masjids in Haryana, Punjab though they do not take him to be an etc. even after 1947. So, why should incarnation of God. Whenever I go to we revive those controversies? we Ayodhya, I do not forget to pay a visit should only try to resolve this issue to a small Gurudwara adjacent to the soon by creating conducive atmos- Ram-Janam Bhoomi where Guru phere in order to bring about emo- Gobind Singh had spent his time in tional integrity in the country. devotion. I bow my head there in Gobind Singh’s honour who is ack- nowledged as a great Guru. And it is Guru who ultimately enjoins us with Sir, through you I appeal all of them Gobind i.e. God. When I had gone to come and sit together and not to there to bow my head, somebody told pay any heed to those who want to me that Guru Gobind Singh, after appease the people just for the sake of 24—15 LSS/ND/91 363 Res. re. steps for JULY 26, 1991 of religious shrines 364 maintaining status quo & places o f worship [Smt. Vijayaraje Seindia] liberalise our industrial policy, now we have also to discuss whether or votes. Let all of us have sout search- not to allow a temple to be built at ing. If we have no malice we shall Ayodhya. That is how, what had been certainly find out some solution to this a non-issue has been made into an issue. I say it quite confidently that issue. there after if we are emotionally inte- grated we would be able to sort out This process started from 22nd/ all types of our problems. 23rd December, 1949 when presum- With these words I thank you. ably the diety Ram Lala made his appearance within the precincts of the Babri Masjid. One may well ask why [English] he had waited for all those years. SHRIMATI MALINI BHATTA- Why not earlier? Why only on that CHARYA (Jadavpur): While ris- particular night of 1949? But may ing to support this Resolution, I be, I am a non-believer, may be it would start by saying that there are will be a sin on my part even to ask two parts of this Resolution. The such a question. I am refraining for second part of the Resolution, as a the moment from asking the question. matter of fact, reiterates the proposal But anyway, Shri Lai K. Advani him- of the National Unity Convention self had the grace to say that. I am held at Lucknow, in April 1950 and quoting from the Hindustan Times attended by many eminent Gandhians dated 24th September, 1990: — like Acharya Narendra Dev and Pan- “Since at least 1949 the idols have dit Sunder Lai. The Congress Party been installed there and worship is apparently had forgotten about this going on.” Resolution for a very long time. How- ever, in a welcome move, recently Again, better late than never, let us say, they have included an almost identical re- “There is no such thing as Babri solution in their manifesto. It has Masjid now. It might have been also been included in the President’s there till 1936.” Address. There is a slight anomaly in this. At Therefore, for this Resolution, we one time he talks of 1949 as being the do expect full support from the Con- cut off date, at another point of time, gress®. As for the first part of the of 1936. But at least he leaves it Resolution, it is about Ayodhya; and open. Whether it is 1936 or 1949, apparently Ayodhya is seen as a spe- Shri Advani’s statement leaves it open cial case. In the case of Ayodhya a that before 1949 or at least before peaceful settlement of the dispute was 1936 it might have been a mosque recommended. even if now some people may think that it is not a mosque, but a temple. MR. CHAIRMAN: Kindly do So, if before 1936 or 1949 this struc- not interrupt. ture had been a mosque, then the question arises, “How did it get con- SHRIMATI MALINI BHATTA- verted into a temple after 1949 or CHARYA: Now, I would say that after 1936? How did it get convert- Ayodhya is not a special case. It has ed?” Or did it happen in 1986 when been made into a special case. What the locks were opened. had been a non-problem has been made into a problem, so that now Well, it was done by the same pro- with hundreds of problems of national cess which is rightly condemned by status that we have, like whether we our BJP friends when it happened in would take or not take IMF loan, some of our neighbouring countries whether we would liberalise or not such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, 365 Res. re. steps for SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) o f religious shrines 366 maintaining status quo & places of worship namely forcible occupation of places as a matter of fact, it is being distort- of worship of a minority community. ed very recently. The evidence of That is how it was eventually conver- that is to be found in a recent near ted de facto into a temple after 1986. the place where the idol has been So, how is something that is acknow- put—mural of Babar’s soldiers des- ledged to be wrong, when it happens troying the temple and killing Hindus. in Bangladesh or Pakistan, how is it And again archaeologists and histo- justified, or become right when it rians in one voice have said that this happens in India? This is the ques- is spurious and people who have tion that I would like to ask my BJP etched that mural on the wall of the friends. Babri Masjid and defaced it would have much to answer for to the fu- ture generations for having distorted Some of our BJP friends and the history in this manner. Shiv Sena friends have given evidence claiming that at an earlier point of However, let us for argument’s time there had existed a temple at sake accept for the moment that that place and they also gave certain such a temple did exist, even that proof regarding its possible demoli- such a temple was demolished at the tion. time of Babar. Even if such a thing did happen, does that justify the conversion of a mosque into a temple Now, I would not go into the de- in 1991? Does that justify the de- tails. I can only say that all the his- molition of a temple? No, it does torical and archaeological evidence not. that we have of this, exists in the dubious after-thoughts of one archaeo- As a matter of fact, in earlier times, logist, Prof. B.B. Lai. It has been we have found both Hindu rulers and largely rejected by the academic com- conquerors and Muslim rulers and munity, by the community of archaeo- conquerors have been equally ruth- logists and by the community of less when places of worship have historians. been seen to be repositories of wealth or of political domination. Even Hindus have destroyed Hindu tem- 17.04 hr& [SHRI P. M. SAYEED ples. We found evidence of that in in the Chair] Kalhana’s Rajtarangini. There is a plenty of evidence of Buddhist mona- There is no evidence of the exist- steries being destroyed by Hindus, being pilfered by Hindus and images ence of a temple in any of the Sans- Ayodhya of Buddhist deities have been conver- krit texts except one on ted into Hindu deities. And if it Mahatmya in Skattd Puran. And comes to that, what about the Hindu all scholars know that Skanda- images that were pilfered by the Bri- puran is relatively a late text, which tish? And many of which are now included interpolations upto the 18th resting at the British Museum. I century. So, that is no evidence. Nor would ask our friends from the VHP is there any evidence in Tulsi Rama- and the RSS. first to launch a move- yan. Tulsidas wrote his Ramayan at ment for the restoration of these a time which would be very close to images which have been physically the time when the temple was suppo- carted out from India, taken away sed to have been demolished and from our country. Why do they not he was rather worried about Muslim launch a movement about this? That invasion in India. So, is it not strange should be done. that he does not write anything about the demolition of a temple at this site? On the other hand, history has In 1949, with the forcible occupa- been distorted at a subsequent date, tion of the mosque premises, there 367 Res. re. steps for J[ULY 26, 1991 o f religious shrines 368 maintaining status quo & places o f worship [Smt. Malini Bhattacharya] Now they are saying that the Go- was a serious apprehension that the vernment may acquire the land and allow the VHP to construct a temple law and order situation may deterio- rate. This is precisely why this place in the name of Ram Lala. Ram was locked and the Order of status Lala has not been a party to the liti- gation. So now he is to be made a quo was passed. So, the contention party in the litigation. So Ram Lala that has been made by some of the is being made a party to a benami hon. Members that no one said any- transaction of land. Not only that, thing at that time about the installa- tion of the idol is not right. Namaz his name has been used for certain very large transactions of money. We could not be offered at the site since are told—I am not sure whether it is 1949 for the same reason. Then, on authentic; there may be people who February 1, 1986, it was unlocked... may answer—that 45 crore coupons (Interruptions) All right, you will not worth less than Rs. 5 were prin- have your chance. Let me have my ted by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad in say. Delhi. Presumably many of these coupons were sold. But where is the money? What has happened to it? It was unlocked by the Order of Ram Lala did not use a pie of it. the District Judge of Faizabad, who Ram Lala has no use for that money. said that he was doing it in order to But it was raised in his name. Again allow darshan to the Hindus. How- Vishwa Hindu Parishad and RSS have ever, this is a decision that was con- never made it clear what they want tested and the matter is now pending to do with the structure. There is a before the Special Bench of the Alla- great deal of ambiguity about this. habad High Court. Earlier one hon. At first, they said that they were only Dixitji said that they have—that is, I interested in the site and not in the suppose, he meant BJP and also construction. What was to be done VHP, etc—abided by the law. Now with this structure? First they used is it only the decision of the law that to say quite openly that it would be is likely to be favourable to them that demolished. I was rather shocked to they are willing to abide by and a hear hon. Abedya Nathji again men- decision that is not likely to be fa- tioning the word ‘todna’. However, vourable, they are not willing to they do not say it any longer, not abide by that? That is not the spirit. very much. Then it was said that it It must be remembered that even should be shifted brick by brick. now the disputed premises remain at- Now this is a very sophisticated tech- tached. It is in the hands of the nology as all archaeologists know. receiver. Four title suits are pending. Do our VHP friends know how much Is this a religious dispute? It is not such re-construction of a mosque a religious dispute. It is a land dis- would cost? Think of the economic pute. It is a dispute on landed and crisis that our country is going property. There are other claimants through. Can we afford this? Where to the land. What about the Nirmohi does the money come from for shift- Akhara? They too have suits pend- ing the mosque physically from one ing in the law court. As I have said, place to another? Also why should I am a non-believer. But I regret to it be shifted at all? That is the real say that the VHP and RSS, who are question. presumed to be believers, have turned Ram Lala, who is regarded as a god incarnate by millions of Hindus, into a petty landlord. What have Much has been said about bhavana, they done? What does Ram Lala emotion. It is interesting that the reli- care for that little plot of land if he gious sentiment a very high thing, I is a god? I think it is a desecra- admit, does not seem to inhere in the tion of the deity for the believers. very sublime, very poetic concept of 369 Res. re. steps for SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) o f religious shrines 370 maintaining status quo <£ places of worship incarnation of God becoming man. occasion for the building of the Ram lam a non-believer, but even I can Temple. This is a question, I would see the poetry of that concept. But like to ask. Anyway, whose man- for some people religious sentiment date is Advaniji is talking of? He does not seem to inhere in this con- is talking of the mandate of Hindus. cept of incarnation but rather in a The Temple controversy, now is not mere piece of land. Now, Finally a matter of UP alone anymore, it we are told No, it is not a mosque, has become a national issue. It was it is not a mosque at all. There is made into a national issue. That a temple. Actually, we have been was precisely the reason why the moving towards this surreptitiously Rath Yatra—which will make Adva- since 1949. Step by step, we have niji immortal to future generations— come to a position where after 1986 was undertaken; precisely to make after the unfortunate opening of the Ram Mandir issue a national issue. lock, the place was dejacto turn- So, now it is a national issue. But ed into a temple. So, now what is what is the percentage of Hindus in happening is that both site and struc- the total population of our country ture are sought to be appropriated. and what is the percentage of votes First, it was only the site. Now, out of that totality that the BJP got? both site and structure have to be ap- Does it show that the Hindus have a propriated. mandate for building a temple there? Now, 1 think, they are aware of this and they know that it would not do, Only the other day, Shri Advani living in India, one could not ignore was talking of the mandate. I do the minorities particularly the Mus- not know what made him to talk of lim minority who are somewhat stron- a mandate. But my interpretation ger in number. So. now, there is was that because BJP had won the talk of emotional integration. Ear- elections in Uttar Pradesh and had lier they were the self-appointed guar- formed a Government there, Advaniji dians of Hindus. Now they are try- is under the impression that may be ing to turn themselves into self-ap- the people had elected them in Uttar pointed guardians of Muslims also. Pradesh to come to power because We have heard of emotional integra- they promised them to build a Ram tion. With great respect, emotional Temple there. That is my interpre- integration cannot be achieved through tation, I do not know. Anyway, fear. You cannot take a rod and BJP had not won on the slogan of go to a person and say, “I am going Ram alone. They added the slogan to build this temple here; let me see of Rotiy Imaaf to Ram. So, how what you can do”, and then talk of does Advaniji knows that people emotional integration. voted for them because they talked of Ram? May be they voted for 1 think really that the BJP friends them because they talked of Roti are not in a very happy state over and Imaaf. I do not know whether Ayodhya. They are in great diffi- they will be able to bring Roti, Imaaf culty over Ayodhya and this is why and Stability to the people. But again and again the BHP and RSS may be people have voted for them slogans about Mathura and Varanasi precisely under that impression. are being used as bargaining counters to achieve Ayodhya. And even that is not enough. They are not secure Now you see this temple is the even with Mathura and Varanasi. VHP-RSS platform. It is the VHP From time to time, there have to and the RSS who have been raising be more wild slogans about thirty the slogan erf Ram Mandir. That thousand temples that have been de- has been their single platform. So, molished. I think that this is just why are the VHP and RSS using a sign that our BJP friends are not BJP’s election victory to make it an feeling very comfortable in their pre- 371 Res. re. steps for JULY 26, 1991 o f religious shrines 372 maintaining status quo & places o f worship [Smt. Malini Bhattacharya] MR. CHAIRMAN: Kindly don’t interrupt him. sent position. May be, they would be very happy if they could get out of the whole thing simply after hav- SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: She ing managed to get that disputed site not only said that she agrees with this in Ayodhya somehow. May be, that part of the Resolution, the first part is the signal that they are trying to of the Resolution, but she also went give because now they are in a posi- on, on this subject by saying that tion from where it is very difficult for Ram is not the Hindu religious leader, them to retract. But let us put it but is the cultural historical figure. to them that retraction is difficult Rasgtriya purush of this country now for them, may be, it will be even And if this approach is there, then I more difficult for them later to ret- think there are great chances of this ract. So, I think that this proposed dispute being settled peacefully. legislation is the last chance that they have, and I think that our BJP friends Now, Sir, on this sensitive issue we also should be urged upon to accept cannot afford to have confrontation this Resolution and thus earn the in this country at all. As has been gratitude of the people and not their said by Shrimati Bhattacharya, when fear and hatred. so many economic issues and diffi- culties are there before this country, we cannot afford to have this confron- SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bom- tation between these two religious bay North-Central): Mr. Chairman, communities and say that ‘No, we Sir, I rise to support this Private should have no negotiations at all, no Member’s Resolution. Of course, negotiated settlement, but we should the broad structure of the Resolution construct the temple, we should de- is to be welcomed very much. We molish or remove the mosque from may not agree with all the details that part of the site’. I also do not which are mentioned in the Resolu- understand how without demolishing tion but it really touches the very that mosque Ram Temple can be sensitive issue which is before this constructed at the place as you are country for the last so many years. desiring and when you say that ‘we It may be understood that really do not want to demolish, but we speaking, this Resolution seeks to put want to remove’—sometimes it was an end to this long drawn controver- said that brisk by brick it will be sy. Hie Resolution merely suggests removed and sometimes, if I am right. that the Government should take early Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee said, steps to peacefully settle the dispute ‘Don’t you know the technology in regarding the shrine at Ayodhya. I Russia? We can remove or move was glad when I heard Rajmata the building itself.’ (Interruptions). Vljaya Raje Scindiaji. when she said that she accepts the first part of the SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPA- Resolution. And I was wondering YEE (Lucknow): Andhra tech- a s to how this different stand has been nology, not Russian. taken by this leader apart from the stand of the BJP and the other Mem- bers of your Party. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: There fore, the real demand appears to be originally to demolish the mosque AN HON. MEMBER: No diffe- and to construct the Temple, and (Interruptions) that wp$1 4 jitireate, really speaking, a rence. great confrontation in this country and particularly in Uttar Pradesh. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: Then And as Shrimati Bhattacharya sug- why not pass the Resolution? (In- gested, they are in power in Uttar terruptions). Ptadesh now and perhaps they are 373 Announcement by .SRAVANA 4 ,19\MSiKA) Business of the 374 the Chair House also in a dilemma. Then at one stage MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, the they said, ‘There is a mandate now hon. Minister of Parliamentary and we will do it.’ It was easy to Affairs may make the statement re- tell others to do it, but when you are garding the Government business for jn charge of the matter, it has become the week commencing from 29th a dilemma before you and perhaps July, 1991. that explains the speech of Rajmata. And I suspect that some background is being created to take some turn in the policy. That is also welcome if that is being contemplated by the BJP at this stage. As far as this issue is concerned, 17.31 hrs. this has been made unnecessarily so much sensitive in view of so many BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE historical things which have come to light. As far as these idols are con- cerned, it has been an admitted fact [English] that they were installed between 22nd and 23rd of December, 1949. THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI GHU- LAM NABI AZAD): With your per- MR. CHAIRMAN: The time is mission, Sir, I rise to announce that over now. So, the hon. Member Government Business during the week may continue on the next Resolution commencing 29th July 1991, will con- day. sist of: (1) Consideration of any item of Government Business carried over from today’s Order paper. (2) Discussion on the Resolution 17.30 hrs* seeking disapproval of the Delhi Municipal Laws (Amend- ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ment) Ordinance, P991 and CHAIR consideration and passing of the Delhi Municipal Laws [English] (3)i Discussion on the Resolution seeking disapproval of the Code MR. CHAIRMAN: In deference of Criminal Procedure (Amend- to the views expressed by several ment) Ordinance, 1991 and Members and leaders of the parties, consideration and passing of if the House agrees, the House may the Code of Criminal Proce- net sit on Saturday. The business dure (Amendment) Bill, 1991. of Saturday would be transacted on Monday and we will give more and (4) Discussion on the Resolution more time to Members to speak on seeking disapproval of the Ter- the Budget. The issue of Shri Shan- rorist and Disruptive Activities mugham’s death also would be dis- (Prevention) Amendment Ordi- cussed on Monday at 5.00 p.m. nance, 1991 and consideration and passing of the Terrorist and SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Disruptive Activities (Preven- Yes. tion) Amendment Bill, 1991. 375 Business o f the Home JULY 26,1991 Business of the Hmse 376 [Sh. Ghulam Nabi Azad] SHRI A. CHARLES (Trivandrum): Mr. Chairman, Sir, normally, the noti- (5) Discussion on the Resolution ces which are given till 10.30 a,m. on seeking disapproval of the the last day of the week would be Jammu & Kashmir Criminal considered for matters under rule 377 Law (Amendment) Ordinance, for the next week and tomorrow being 1991 and consideration and the last day of the week, we have been passing of the Jammu & asked to give our notices tomorrow. Kashmir Criminal Law Amend- The time for submitting Notices under ment (Second Amending) Bill, 1991. rule 377 was fixed for tomorrow bet- ween 10 a.m. and 10.30 a.m. Now (6) Discussion on the Resolution tomorrow being holiday, this may be seeking disapproval of the extended up to Monday 10 a.m. and Representation of the People 10.30 a.m. The time for submitting (Amendment) Ordinance, 1991 Notices under rule 377 may be fixed and consideration and passing for Monday. of the Representation of the People (Amendment) Bill, 1991, MR. CHAIRMAN: Whatever busi- as passed by Rajya Sabha. ness we are going to transact tomor- row, that business would be transacted (7) Discussion on the Resolution on Monday. When you are going to seeking disapproval of the Con- lose Saturday, the business fixed for sumer Protection (Amendment) Saturday would be shifted to Monday. Ordinance, 1991 and considera- In any case, you are going to lose one tion and passing of the Consu- day. mer Protection (Amendment) Bill, 1991, as passed by Rajya Are you going to sit tomorrow? Sabha. (8) Discussion on the Resolution You do not want to sit. Therefore, seeking disapproval of the Con- the business listed for tomorrow would stitution (Scheduled Tribes) be shifted to Monday. Orders (Amendment) Ordinance. 1991 and consideration and passing of the Constitution [Translation] (Scheduled Tribes) Orders DR. LAXMI NARAYAN PAN- (Amendent) Bill, 1991, as passed DEYA (Mandsaur): Mr. Chairman, by Rajya Sabha. Sir, when will the submissions be taken up. SHRI E. AHAMED (Manjeri): Mr. C^&irman, Sir, usually we give notices MR. CHAIRMAN: On Tuesday. for matters under rule 377 on the last day of the week. We thought we can DR. LAXMI NARAYAN PAN- give notices for the same tomorrow DEYA: When will be the ballet since tomorrow being the last day of held therefor without which they can- the week. Now, there is no sitting not be taken up- tomorrow and so we are deprived of the opportunity to give notices for matters under rule 377. MR. CHAIRMAN: It will not be taken up on Monday as for that day Saturday’s business is stated. MR. CHAIRMAN: As has been stated by me earlier, the business which was to be transacted on Saturday would DR. LAXMI NARAYAN PAN- now be taken up on Monday and mat- DEYA: Notices are received on the ters under rule 377 would also be last working day and it was yester- taken up on Monday. day. . (Intermptiom) 377 Business o f SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Half-an-HourDiscussion 378 the Moure Delegation of Powers to C.C.I.&E. MR. CHAIRMAN: Therefore, it 17.40 hrs. will be resumed on Monday. HALF-AN-HOUR DISCUSSION SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- Delegation of Powers to CCI & E JEE: 10 minutes of the Half-an-hour [English] discussion have been wasted, MR. CHAIRMAN: Now it is clear. 1 think. We will take up Half-an-Hour MR. CHAIRMAN: What could be Discussion. Dr. Laxmi Narayan Pan- done as Members from your side speak. deya to speak. [English] [Translation] SHRI V. SOBHANADRESWARA DR. LAXMI NARAYAN PANDE- RAO VADDE: The submissions mcv YA: Mr. Chairman, Sir, I had asked a be allowed on Monday. question on 22nd February from the Minister of Commerce. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: [English] There are two types of submissions. One is daily submission during Zero “Whether the Union Government Hour and another one is submission had delegated the powers to make made once a week. After the state- provision for controlling imports ment made by the hon. Minister about and exports under Section 3 of the thfc next week business, we make Import and Export Control Act submissions that the following items 1947:’ may be included in the next week [Translation] business. That should be allowed on Monday. The reply I have received is: [English] MR. CHAIRMAN: When you take “The matter regarding delegation of up Matters under rule 377, then sub- powers under Section 3 of Imports mission for the coming week business and Exports Control Act, 1947 to would not be there. Both will riot be the Chief Controller of Imports and there. Exports is under active considera- tion.” SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: Let us have submissions on Monday [Translation] and Notices for receiving matters After that I had asked the same under rule 377 may be extended upto question on 12th July. I got the Monday. same answer again. I am reading it out. MR. CHAIRMAN: That means, from Tuesday onwards, there will be [English] Matters under Rule 377. Is it clear “Refer to the reply given on 22nd now? February, 1991 to Unstarred Ques- tion 1 3 2 regarding Delegation of Powers.” 25-15 LSS/ND/91 379 Hatf-an-Hou! Disamion JUjlV 26,1991 Delegation of Powers 380 to C.C.L & t . [Dr. Laxmi Narayan Pandeya] of Imports and Exports. The relevant Section of the 1955 orders says that: The reply was that— [English] [English] “The matter is stf.l under active “ 1955 Order: consideration and as soon as a deci- Chief Controller of Imports and sion is taken, the same will be pla- Exports includes Additional Chief ced on the Table of the House.” Controller of Imports and Exports; Exports Commissioner in the Office [Translation] of Chief Controller of Imports and Exports; the Joint Controller of Im- After that, today a7so I had asked ports and Exports; the Deputy Chief one question. In his reply, the hon. Controller of Imports and Exports Minister has tried to conceal the facts. and. Deputy Iron and Steel Con- This became obvious from his vague troller.” answer. [Translation] Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to My submission is that the Govern- submit to you that the Import and ment had no authority to alter the Export Control Act was enacted in definition through an executive order 1947. It has become so irrelevant and It was wrong on the part of the Gov- obsolete that it has become absolutely ernment and it has created problems. necessary to amend it. Even the Com- As a result, they were no more in a merce and Textile Secretaries, the final position to hear disputed matters. authorities so far as imports and ex- Those unauthorised persons became ports are concerned, agreed before authorised through this order. Later the Subordinate Legislative Committee on, when this came to the notice of that the act had became so obsolute the Government, it admitted its mis- that it needed to be amended. It also take and amended its earlier order needs to be amended from the point through another executive order. How- of view that the Government’s deci- ever. even then it didn’t think of sion regarding delegation of powers is amending the Act through proper faulty and incorrect. I would like to legislation. I would like to submit draw the attention of the hon. Minis- that through the 1955 order the defi- ter, towards the definition of Chief nition of ‘an authorised officer’, which Controller, as given in the Import till then was the Chief Controller of Export Act, 1947. Imports and Exports, was altered and enlarged to include n couple of other [English] officials too. It says: “Chief Controller means the Chief [English] Controller of Imports and Exports ~ “An authorised officer means an officer not below the rank of Deputy [Translation] Chief Controller of Imports and Exports authorised by Chief Con- The Government later on wanted troller of Imports and Exports.” to replace and amend some section* of the said Act, through a Govern- [Translation] ment order, but the Attorney-General opined that it was not within the Gov- The definition of the Chief Control- ernment’s jurisdiction Even then it ler has been given earlier. What is was amended. In the executive order incoherent is that the Chief Controller of f 955, the Govemtrent has enlarged is authorising somebody else on his the definition of the Chief Controller behalf. 381 Hatf-an-Hour SRAVANA 4, 1913 Delegation of Powers 382 Discussion to C.C.I. & E. [English] [Translation] Subordinate Legislation Committee Some cases had come to the notice Report (7th Report) presented on 2nd of the Attorney-General in which ob- May, 1986. Page 22 Para 26:— jections were raised and he was of the opinion that whatever had taken “The Committee notes with satis- place was not correct. faction the valuable opinions of Attorney General, November, 1983 I would like to read out a portion tendered by the Attorney-General of the Report presented by this com- for India on certain points referred mittee. On page number 38, it is men- to him by the Secretariat ol the tioned. Committee, on 30th November, 1985 when a statement of the case ‘The Committee observe that the dated 31st October, 1985 was refer- Government has made in clause 2 red to him by the Ministry of Law of the Exports (Control) Order, & Justice.” 1977 unauthorised altcration/en- largement of the definitions...” The Committee, therefore, desire [Translation] the Ministry of Commerce/Tex tiles As I said earlier, they enlarged the to undertake a thorough re-apprai- Original definition of the Chief Con- sal of the whole matter in the light troller to include Deputy Chief Con- of he advice of the Attorney-Gene- troller, Additional Chief Controller, ral for India in order that the var- the Steel Controller etc. To quote it: ious Control Orders, Public Noti- ces, Annual Import-Export Polices, [English] etc. that have a hearing on the im- ports and exports of the country, Chief Controller means Deputy could be brought harmoniously Chief Controller. Additional Chief within the parameters of the law Controller, Steel Controller...” Again, as laid down in the Imports and 1 quote: Exports (Control) Act, 1947/’ “The Committee observe that the Government has made in clause 2 [Translation] of the Exports (Control) Order, 1977 unauthorised alternation/enlarge- One thing that is clear from all ment of the definitions of the terms this is that the action being taken by ‘Chief Controller’ and ‘Deputy Chief the Ministries under the Import Ex- Controller’ as given in section 2 of port order is invalid. If anyone takes the Imports and Exports (Control) recourse to the judicial process and Act, 1947. During evidence before challenges the decisions taken so far, the Committee, the Secretary (Com- then it would give rise to innumerable merce) agreed that it would have disputes. Even today, the reply given been better and more elegant to bv the hon. Minister is evasive. His have amended the Act itself instead reply is that: of putting a different definition in the ‘Order’.” [English] [Translation] Even after this, they issued another The powers of the Chief Controller ‘order’. The hon. Minister has said in of Imports and Exports, Additional his reply that Chief Controller of Imports and Exports to hear appeal against the [English] decision of the order passed under the Imports and Exports Act, 1947 “The matter is still under consider- have not been delegated.. .* v . ation.” 383 Half-an-Hour JULY 26, 1991 Delegation ofPowers 384 Discussion to C.C.I. & E. [Dr. Laxmi Narayan Pandeya] matter may be reopened and a never [Translation] ending process may start. 1 feel that the hon. Minister has not I understand that the Government been properly briefed about it, other- still has time to lake a decision in the wise, he would not have given such matter making up for alt the discre- an answer. Through you, I would like pancies that have crept into this Act to raise this important matter. It is and remove them and update the Act stated at the end of page number 71 thatlias become outdated. of the Committee’s Report that— [English] With these words I urge the hon. Minister to take an immediate deci- “1 am of the view that a subordi- sion in the matter, and answer the nate legislative authority cannot en- questions, points etc. raised. large the definition. A definition in an Act can be enlarged or amend- [English] ed by an amendment of the Act alone. The statute may confer pow- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ers upon authorities mentioned and THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE defined under the Act...” (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Sir, I am obliged to Dr. Pandeya for rais- [Transiation] ing this discussion. (Interruptions) Now *that the position is clear, 1 would like to know from the hon. MR. CHAIRMAN: Gangwarji, Minister as to under which Act or after this, you can seek clarification. legislation, the concerned cases were dealt so far? The Attorney- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: If General is of the opinion that the Gov- anyone wants to say anything, be ernment was not empowered to issue should say now, 1 think, before I orders and it obviously means that reply. the Government had no power to delegate powers and authorise some MR. CHAIRMAN: There are four officials. By doing so, the Government Members to speak. has made the matter an illegal one. I would like to submit that now it SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: They i» the year 1991. 44 years have pas- should all speak first. sed since 1947 but no one seems to be interested in amending it to meet the MR. CHAIRMAN: AH right. Then present needs. They have all along 1 will call them first. been saying that the matter is under the consideration of the Government. Shri Santosh Kumar Gangwar to They said the same thing two years speak. ago and repeated it some months ear- lier also. Even today the same thing [Translation] is being repeated. How many more years will you take to consider SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANG- it to plug the loopholes and make it WAR (Bareilly): Mr. Chairman, relevant? Decision on many appeals Sir, everything has been said in de- were taken by unauthorised officials tail and I do not want to repeat the who were authorised against the pro- same. I just want to say one thing. visions of the Act. If those decisions When there could not be proper , ap- are challenged in courts of law, then plication in the last 44 years, will T am certain -that the Government the Government review the decisions would face rough weather and would taken during this period? Obviously suffer for its past mistakes. The whole the decisions taken with the approval 385 Half-an-Hour SR AYANA 4,1913 (S/IK/l) Delegation of Powers K6 Discussion t0 c.c.J. & E. and consent of and verification by the tuation. The role of the Chief Con- Minister incharge will be valid and troller of Imports and Exports should cases decided by others will not be be that of a guide and a friend and considered valid. I want to submit not of a regulator. I hope, the hon. that you could not do anything in Minister will make necessary changes the past 4 4 years. Have you consi- for the betterment of the economic dered the fall out on the numerous situation of this country. I seek a cases so decided in the past and the clarification from the hon. Minister effect on the department and all the in this direction. concerned parties. Will the hon. Mi- nister review all th e. decisions taken [Translation] during the past 44 years and see that such a thing does not happen in fu- PROF. PREM DHUMAL (Ha- ture. Will he make a categorical mirpur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, forty statement in this regard? four years have passed. I do not want to say much on this. I could have read it out for the hon. Minis- [English] ter, but the time is short. As such 1 would like to ask a direct question SHRI SOBHANA DRESWARA on paragraph 17 of the report of RAO VADDE (Vijayawada): Mr. the Committee on Subordinate Le- Chairman, Sir, Shri Pandey has men- gislation because it is a very import tioned about the position of the Act tant subject. The hon. Minister may and the discrepancies that have arisen kindly state: out of the Government order issued some time back. I will not repeat [English] what he has already said. But 1 would like to seek a clarification Whether the power to hear appeal from the hon. Minister. under Section 4M of the Act can bz delegated to an officer subordinate The Government had given the to the Additional Chief Controller of same answer in reply to questions Imports & Exports and, if so, whe- dated 22nd February and 12th July ther is the authority for the same. 1991. That means, the Government Copies of such delegation orders may is also under confusion. please be placed on the Table of the House. While taking the necessary steps to Thank you. bring forward an amendment,, if ne- cessary, to remove the discrepancies SHRI E. AHAMED (Manjeri): which were earlier crept in, let the Mr. Chairman, Sir, I do not want to Government also come forward in take much of the valuable time of the near future, simplifying the ex- this House, in view of the opinions port-import policy to tide over the given expression to by the hon. Mem- present balance of payments critical bers. But may I submit here Sir, position. The hon. Minister is well that this Act of 1947, many of the aware that the procedure are very provisions of this Act have now be- stringent now. At present nearly 25 come redundent in view of a new preshipment export documents have policy announced by the hon. Minis- to be prepared by exporters for every ter. I would like to request the hon. export transaction to fulfil the demands Minister to bring in some amend- of different Government departments. ments wherever it is necessary, espe- Let the Government some forward cially with a view to simplifying the with a new proposal simplifying the present cumbersome procedure which procedure and also to give encourage- stands in the way of promotion of ment to the exporters for increasing exports. Even now our exporters our export and meet the present si- are finding it extremely difficult and 387 Half-an-Hour Discussion JULY 26, 1991 Delegation of Powers 388 to C.C.I. &E. [Sh. E. Ahamed] (Control) Act, 1947, is Section 3 they have to do a lot of paper work. and Section 3 enables the Central There should be some limit or where Government by order published in there should be some “cutting the the official Gazette to make provision edges” of this delay. I hope, the Mini- for prohibiting, restricting or other- ster would clarify the position and as wise controlling in all cases or any to what he would like to say in this specified classes of cases and subject matter. I would also make a sug- to such exceptions, if any, as may be gestion that any amendment or any made by or under the order, the im- decision in this respect, whether for port/export etc of goods of any spe- amending the orders already passed cified description. or modifying, may also be consulted with the Attorney-General of India, 18.00 his. in the light of views expressed by the The orders made under Section 3 hon. Member Dr. Pandey. are the Imports (Control) Order and SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir. the Exports (Control) Order. The 1 am grateful to Dr. Pandey and orders currently in force is the Im- other hon. Members for raising this ports (Control) Order of 1955 as brief discussion, arising out of an amended from time to time and answer furnished first to an unstar- the Exports (Control) Order of red question 'No. 132 and which I 1988 which has repealed the Exports find, i have repeated on the 12th of (Control) Order of 1977. These two July* 1991. I must confess at the control orders are pieces of subordi- outset that on the 12th of July. 1991. nate legislation. There is no gain- I was advised that the matter is un- saying the fact that they are pieces der consideration and therefore. 1 of subordinate legislation. But these orders confer powers upon a large should tell the House truthfully that number of officers. For example, if the matter is under consideration. It you will kindly see the Imports (Con- was under consideration by the offi- trol) Order, 1955 as amended. Clause cers, by the legal Advisor and by 3, which is the crucial clause, says: others. But since then Sir, 1 have applied my mind to it and 1 am still “Save as otherwise provided in not clear what the problem is. But this order no person shall import I am afraid. I have to first convince any goods of the descriptions spe- my officers that what I am saying is cified in Schedule 1 except under correct before I can come here and and in accordance with the lieenec carry out that assurance. As I un- or a customs clearance permit derstand the scheme of the Act, it granted by the Central Govern- seems to me fairly straight forward or by any officers specified in and simple and 1 am quite confident Schedule 2 !' that the views that I will record even- tually after taking the benefit of your questions and comments, will be up- So Schedule 1 specifies the goods and held by the Law Officers of the Gov- Schedule 2 specifies the officers. If ernment. But whatever view is you will kindly see Schedule 2 to finally taken by the Government, I the Control Order, you will find a shall place it before the House. You list of officers starting with the Chief would kindly permit me to just ex- Controller of Imports and Exports plain it as I see it. There is an Im- and includes any officer authorised port and Export (Control) Act of by the Central Government and in- 1947. That Act, under Section 2 de- cludes an Assistant Chief Controller fines Chief Controller and the Deputy of Imports MdJExports. Chief Controller. But those defini- tions are for the purposes of certain In my opinion there is no conflict sections of the Act. The crucial between the provisions of the piece section of the Imports & Exports of subordinate legislation, namely 189 Half-ati-Mota SRAVANA 4, 1913 (SAKA) Delegation of Fmven 390 Discussion t0 C.C.I. & E. the Imports (Control) Order of 3955 tion 4 k of the Imports and Exports and Section 3 of the parent Act. Control Act which confers powers to adjudicate upon the Chief Con- Similarly, kindly see the Exports troller or where he so directs by a (Control) OixJcr of 1988 which re- general/special order, by the Addi- pealed the Exports (Control) Order tional Chief Controller and then sub- of 1977. For example, the hon. Mem- ject to such limits as may be speci- ber referred to Page 71 of the fied in this behalf by such other offi- committee's report; but that dealt cer not below the rank of Deputy with the Exports (Control) Order of Chief Controller as the Central Gov- 1977. There was perhaps some pro- ernment may notify. blem with the Exports (Control) Or- der of 1977 and the learned Law The power to hear appeals arises Officer whom we had asked for his out of Section 4(M) which confers opinion did point out that perhaps appellate powers upon the Central the order travelled beyond the section. Government and upon the Chief But today the Exports (Control) Or- Controller. Since Section 4(K) and der of 1988, as far as I am able to 4(M) occur in the Parent Act made see it, does not travel beyond the sec- by Parliament, there is no question tion. The Exports Control Order of subordinate legislation coming into once again says in Clause 3: conflict with the Parent Act. 4fcSave as otherwise provided in this order, no person shall export any The last question which I believe goods of the descriptions specified the hon. Member raised was about in Schedule 1 except under and in the Apparel Export Promotion Coun- accordance with the licence grant- cil levying fees, which is entirely a ed by the Central Government or different matter. That really does not by any officer specified in Schedule arise out of the provisions we are 2.” dealing with. So while Schedule, 1 specifies the list 1 know that the Apparel Export of goDds, Schedule 2 specifies the list Promotion Council is levying fees of officers. If you will kindly see the list, it starts with the Chief Controller and collecting certain charges. If there is any problem as pointed out of Imports and Exports and includes a by the Committee on Subordinate large number of officers who fall un- der 15 categories. Legislation, it is now under the pur- view of the Ministry of Textiles and 1 am quite sure my colleague in the Sir, in my humble opinion there Ministry of Textiles is seized of the is no conflict between the Imports matter. ’ But I shall certainly convey (Control) Order of 1955 as amended your views to my colleague and if and the Exports (Control) Order of he has not yet taken note of the 1988 with any provision of the pa- views of the Committee on Subordi- rent Act. If the hon. Member wish- nate Legislation, I will request him es to have this recorded in writing, to do so. I shall certainly record it in writing, get it confirmed by the Law Officers and I shall send it to him. As far as matters fall within the province of the Ministry of Com- The other point that was raised merce, Sir, I am fairly and reason- was, where do they have the autho- ably confident in my mind that there rity to hear the appeals and adjudi- is no conflict between the Parent Act cate matters. The power to hear and and any order; there is no transgres- adjudicate upon matters, in my sion of the principles of subordinate humble opinion, arises out of Sec- legislation; there is no lacuna in 391 Half* oh-11 our JUL\ 26. 199 i Delegation o/ Poners 392 Discussion to C.C.I. & E . [Sh. P. Chidambaram] Officer travelled beyond the defini- tion in the Act. But Export (Control) hearing adjudication or ipnea’s. But Order of 1977 has been repealed and since I cannot be the Law Officer it has been replaced by the Export advising myself, I shall certainly (Control) Order of 1988. In the Ex- refer this question to the Law Offi- ports (Control) Order of 1988, I have cer and I shall get his confirmation. not seen any definition travelling If my position is wrong; I will stand beyond the definition in the Parent corrected and if 1 am right. I wili Act, nor have you brought to my get it confirmed: and I will convey notice today any definition travelling this answer to the hon. Members. beyond the definition in the Parent Act. If there is any definition travell- If I would have to fulfil an assu- ing beyond the definition in the rance. I will fulfil that assurance in Parent Act, olease write to me. I a very short period of time. I have shall look into the matter. applied my mind since I gave the answer on 12th July and I am clear in my mind that there has been no violation. Thank you. MR. CHAIRMAN: The House stands adjourned to meet again on DR. LAXMI NARAYAN PAN- 29th July at 11 a.m. DEYA: Can any definition be chang- ed by an order after it is passed? 18.07 hrs. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: With great respect I would say this. I think, the hon. Member is once The Lok Sabha then adjourned till again referring to the Exports (Con- Eleven o\ the Clock on Monday, trol) Order of 1977 which according Julv 29, 1991 (Sravana 7, 1913 to the Late Mr. Kakkar, the Law (Saka) MGIPCBE—S8—15 LSS ND/91—2-12-91—700.