Nunavut

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF

3rd Session 4th Assembly

HANSARD

Official Report

DAY 27

Friday, March 11, 2016

Pages 1417 – 1494

Iqaluit

Speaker: The Honourable George Qulaut, M.L.A.

Legislative Assembly of Nunavut

Speaker Hon. George Qulaut (Amittuq) Tony Akoak Hon. George Kuksuk Hon. Paul Quassa (Gjoa Haven) (Arviat North-Whale Cove) (Aggu) Deputy Chair, Committee of the Minister of Culture and Heritage; Government House Leader; Minister Whole Minister of Languages; Minister of of Education; Minister responsible for Family Services; Minister responsible for Nunavut College Pat Angnakak Homelessness (-Niaqunnguu) Allan Rumbolt Steve Mapsalak (Hudson Bay) Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (Aivilik) (Iqaluit-Manirajak) Alexander Sammurtok Deputy Premier; Minister of Economic Hon. Johnny Mike (Rankin Inlet South) Development and Transportation; (Pangnirtung) Minister of Energy; Minister of Minister of Environment; Minister Tom Sammurtok Health; Minister responsible for the responsible for the Utility Rates Review (Rankin Inlet North-Chesterfield Status of Women; Minister responsible Council Inlet) for Suicide Prevention Hon. Joe Savikataaq Simeon Mikkungwak (Baker Lake) (Arviat South) Joe Enook Minister of Community and (Tununiq) Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole Deputy Speaker and Chair of the Government Services Paul Okalik Committee of the Whole Isaac Shooyook (Iqaluit-Sinaa) (Quttiktuq) Hon. George Hickes (Iqaluit-Tasiluk) Hon. Keith Peterson () Hon. Peter Taptuna Minister responsible for the Nunavut (Kugluktuk) Housing Corporation; Minister Minister of Finance, Chair of the Financial Management Board; Minister Premier; Minister of Executive and responsible for the Energy Intergovernmental Affairs; Minister Corporation of Justice; Minister responsible for Labour; Minister responsible for the responsible for Aboriginal Affairs; Minister responsible for Immigration David Joanasie Workers’ Safety and Compensation (South Baffin) Commission

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Table of Contents

Opening Prayer ...... 1417

Ministers’ Statements ...... 1417

Members’ Statements ...... 1420

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery ...... 1424

Oral Questions ...... 1424

Revert to Item 5: Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery ...... 1441

Reports of Standing and Special Committees on Bills and Other Matters ...... 1441

Tabling of Documents ...... 1441

First Reading of Bills ...... 1442

Second Reading of Bills ...... 1443

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters ...... 1443

Report of the Committee of the Whole ...... 1493

Orders of the Day ...... 1493

A. Daily References

Friday, March 11, 2016 ...... 1417

B. Ministers’ Statements

089 – 4(3): New Federal Funding to Support Nunavut’s Sealing Industry (Mike) ...... 1417

090 – 4(3): Community Wellness Coordinators Support Public Health Programming (Ell-

Kanayuk) ...... 1418

091 – 4(3): New Board Members for Nunavut Arctic College (Quassa) ...... 1418

092 – 4(3): Mentorship Program (Savikataaq) ...... 1419

C. Members’ Statements

191 – 4(3): Qaujimanituqangit and the Government of Nunavut (Shooyook) ...... 1420

192 – 4(3): Sanikiluaq Success at Arctic Winter Games (Rumbolt) ...... 1421

193 – 4(3): Medical Transient Centre for Rankin Inlet (Sammurtok, T) ...... 1421

194 – 4(3): Happy Birthday to Daughter (Keyootak) ...... 1422

195 – 4(3): Growing Up in Pangnirtung (Okalik) ...... 1422

196 – 4(3): First Aid Course in Pangnirtung (Mike) ...... 1423

197 – 4(3): Cambridge Bay Participants at the Arctic Winter Games (Peterson) ...... 1423

D. Oral Questions

260 – 4(3): Medical Transient Centre for Rankin Inlet (Sammurtok, T) ...... 1424

261 – 4(3): Language Instruction Requirements in Nunavut Schools (Angnakak) ...... 1426

262 – 4(3): Update on the Fire Truck Replacement Project (Sammurtok) ...... 1427

263 – 4(3): Northern Premiers’ Forum (Mikkungwak) ...... 1428

264 – 4(3): Social Passing in Nunavut Schools (Okalik) ...... 1430

265 – 4(3): Vacant Houses (Joanasie) ...... 1431

266 – 4(3): Support for Baker Lake Hunters (Mikkungwak) ...... 1433

267 – 4(3): New Search and Rescue Policy (Rumbolt) ...... 1435

268 – 4(3): Meat Testing Facilities in Nunavut (Sammurtok, T) ...... 1436

269 – 4(3): The Elimination of Plastic Bags in Nunavut (Okalik) ...... 1438

270 – 4(3): Nunavut Graduation Rates (Joanasie) ...... 1438

E. Reports of Standing and Special Committees on Bills and Other Matters

011 – 4(3): Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Land Titles Act (Sammurtok, T) ...... 1441

F. Tabling of Documents

095 – 4(3): FPT Ministerial Report – UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)

Conference of the Parties COP21 in Paris, France (Mike) ...... 1442

096 – 4(3): Nunavut Airports 20-year Infrastructure Needs Assessment 2014-2034 (Ell-Kanayuk)

...... 1442

097 – 4(3): Contract Activity Report 2014-2015 (Savikataaq) ...... 1442

098 – 4(3): Procurement Activity Report 2014-2015 (Savikataaq)...... 1442

099 – 4(3): Lease Activity Report 2014-2015 (Savikataaq) ...... 1442

100 – 4(3): Response Letter from Premier to the Airlines (Taptuna) ...... 1442

G. Bills

Bill 14 – Public Health Act – First Reading ...... 1442

Bill 14 – Public Health Act – Second Reading ...... 1443

Bill 13 – Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, 2016-2017 – Economic Development

and Transportation – Consideration in Committee ...... 1444

Bill 13 – Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, 2016-2017 – Nunavut Arctic College –

Consideration in Committee ...... 1488

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Iqaluit, Nunavut Mr. Speaker, I am excited to inform the Friday, March 11, 2016 House that the federal government has Members Present: signed a $150,000 contribution Mr. Tony Akoak, Ms. Pat Angnakak, agreement with the Government of Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk, Mr. Joe Nunavut to support Canada’s indigenous Enook, Hon. George Hickes, Mr. David seal industry. This agreement, signed at Joanasie, Mr. Pauloosie Keyootak, Mr. the end of January this year, is the first Steve Mapsalak, Hon. Johnny Mike, Mr. to be signed under the federal Simeon Mikkungwak, Mr. Paul Okalik, Certification and Market Access Hon. Keith Peterson, Mr. Emiliano Program for Seals – a five-year, $5.7 Qirngnuq, Hon. Paul Quassa, Hon. million program established last year. George Qulaut, Mr. Allan Rumbolt, Mr. Alexander Sammurtok, Mr. Tom The money will be used to fund the Sammurtok, Hon. Joe Savikataaq, Mr. development of certification and Isaac Shooyook, Hon. Peter Taptuna. tracking systems that allow seal products harvested by Inuit in Nunavut to be >>House commenced at 9:00 certified and sold in the EU. (interpretation ends) It will also support Item 1: Opening Prayer capacity building so that communities can take advantage of the renewed Speaker (Hon. George Qulaut) market opportunities in Europe. (interpretation): Mr. Tom Sammurtok, can you say the opening prayer, please. (interpretation) Mr. Speaker, my department will be working together >>Prayer with the Nunavut Arts and Crafts Association and other partners to ensure Speaker (interpretation): Good morning, that this funding helps to reinvigorate the my fellow Nunavummiut. Members, market for Nunavut’s indigenous ministers, (interpretation ends) Premier, sealskin products. My department has (interpretation) and visitors, welcome to always worked hard to support the House. Nunavut’s traditional harvesters, and this new contribution from the federal Item 2. Ministers’ Statements. Minister government will further strengthen our of Environment, Mr. Mike. efforts. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 2: Ministers’ Statements >>Applause

Minister’s Statement 089 – 4(3): New Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Federal Funding to Support Ministers’ Statements. (interpretation Nunavut’s Sealing Industry (Mike) ends) Hon. Minister of Health, Ms. Ell- Kanayuk. Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, my colleagues, Nunavummiut, and my fellow residents of Pangnirtung.

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Minister’s Statement 090 – 4(3): budgets, write reports, engage with Community Wellness people in their communities to find out Coordinators Support Public what people want and need to be Health Programming (Ell- healthy, and lastly, develop projects Kanayuk) based on priorities of their communities. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Good morning, Mr. Mr. Speaker, due to the success of our Speaker. (interpretation ends) The training and mentorship program, we are promotion of health and wellness planning to train another batch of six programming in our communities is community wellness coordinators who important to the general well-being of are presently working in Pond Inlet, Nunavummiut. Many communities now Cambridge Bay, Gjoa Haven, Arviat, have community health and wellness and Grise Fiord, and eventually expand committees whose goal it is to develop this to all communities. Thank you, Mr. programs that are specific to needs of Speaker. each and every community. >>Applause Mr. Speaker, we received feedback from the communities asking for additional Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. manpower to work with their wellness Ministers’ Statements. (interpretation communities to coordinate programs. ends) Hon. Minister of Nunavut Arctic The Department of Health, in College, Mr. Quassa. collaboration with Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated, determined this gap could Minister’s Statement 091 – 4(3): New best be addressed through recruitment Board Members for Nunavut and training. Arctic College (Quassa)

I am pleased to report that the Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): Department of Health recruited six Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, community wellness coordinators for the my colleagues, Nunavummiut, and communities of Arctic Bay, Chesterfield residents of my community. Inlet, Baker Lake, Kimmirut, Kugaaruk, and Taloyoak. Two of the six are current Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Minister employees of the hamlets of Kugaaruk responsible for Nunavut Arctic College and Taloyoak. They started a six-month and the Nunavut Research Institute, I am mentoring and training program last pleased to rise in the House today to October and will complete their training announce the appointment of several in March. new members to Nunavut Arctic College’s board of governors. The training and mentoring is jointly offered by Department of Health staff Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to appoint and the Ilisaqsivik Society in Clyde Ms. Susan Ball from Arviat to a three- River. The training is a combination of year term as the Kivalliq representative in-class learning and real-life job and Ms. Susie Evyagotailak from shadowing. The community wellness Kugluktuk to a three-year term as the coordinators are learning to create Kitikmeot representative. Ms. Ball and

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Ms. Evyagotailak bring with them a Minister’s Statement 092 – 4(3): wealth of knowledge and expertise Mentorship Program (Savikataaq) regarding the development and needs of education for Inuit, in particular their Hon. Joe Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. work as classroom teachers and Speaker. I rise today to acknowledge and principals in Nunavut schools. encourage a very positive initiative within the Infrastructure Division of Mr. Speaker, we are also pleased to Community and Government Services appoint Larry Nalungiaq from Kugaaruk (CGS). Three students from Inuksuk as the college’s student representative High School here in Iqaluit will be for a two-year term. Mr. Nalungiaq is participating in a mentorship project to currently studying in the Nunavut gain skills, knowledge, and experience Teacher Education Program at the with infrastructure design. college through the Kugaaruk Community Learning Centre. The goal of the project is that the students will generate design concepts The board of governors is also pleased to and the CGS staff will guide them have Ms. Rhoda Ungalaq reappointed to towards selecting and refining a final a three-year term and Mr. Jason design. The students will work on the Carpenter reappointed to a one-year term design of a small structure. The students as the staff representative. will work together to gather and analyze population data and city maps, as well as Mr. Speaker, from determining the research what has happened in other college’s direction and mission to municipalities on similar projects. creating a climate for innovation and progress, the board of governors serves a Mr. Speaker, the students will develop a critical role in setting and achieving final presentation, which will include academic excellence and in design sketches and a scale model, strengthening the college’s systems and which they will deliver to senior operations. executive staff of CGS and the City of Iqaluit. They will participate in the Mr. Speaker, members of the Nunavut project after school and will work on it Arctic College Board of Governors have up to four to five days per month until demonstrated tremendous dedication and the end of the school semester. commitment to the success of Nunavut Arctic College and I look forward to Although this project involves a working with them in the coming years. hypothetical design at this time, we hope Thank you, Mr. Speaker. that the students will gain meaningful insights and experiences with drafting, >>Applause design, planning, and community engagement. The professionals on our Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. staff are proud to offer their expertise Ministers’ Statements. Minister of and support in all aspects along the way. Community and Government Services, I see this as a great opportunity for Mr. Savikataaq. cooperation and community development and I commend everyone

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1420 involved for supporting the goals of this behalf of Inuit, as he is extremely project. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. dedicated.

>>Applause Further, George Hickes is another person I wish to name for defending our Inuit Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Qaujimanituqangit principles and Ministers’ Statements. I have no more knowledge faithfully. To him I say, “I names on my list. Going to the orders of am proud of you!” the day. Item 3. Members’ Statements. Member for Quttiktuq, Mr. Isaac The third person I wish to name whom I Shooyook. also am very proud of for his efforts is Keith Peterson. Item 3: Members’ Statements I am expressing my cognizance of their Member’s Statement 191 – 4(3): Inuit efforts and conveying my pride for their Qaujimanituqangit and the efforts, and I will voice the reasons for Government of Nunavut this expression of gratification. Ever (Shooyook) since I was elected, I have been Mr. Shooyook (interpretation): Thank adamantly pushing and prodding this you, Mr. Speaker. I say “good day” to government to incorporate Inuit Nunavummiut, residents of my Qaujimanituqangit and to repatriate the community, those watching the usage of our ancient knowledge as part proceedings, our (interpretation ends) of this government. Premier, (interpretation) ministers, and my colleagues. Yesterday, I was taken aback as I was totally not expecting the reference, I rise today to express a sense of total although I had an inkling. When the fulfilment and pride that I wish to share Minister of Finance made his with my colleagues so that they can join announcement, he stated that he would in extending this acknowledgement follow Inuit Qaujimanituqangit as the wholeheartedly. basis for alcohol-related traditional healing practices and that in our future, As you know, I am fervent and dedicated IQ will be incorporated into this process in the inclusion of Inuit Qaujimaningit and would form a vital component. This within government, and I wish to statement alone exploded the feelings of provide a brief background. We hear the pride in my heart. word used often. Due to this reasoning, as far as I know, I would be remiss not to mention three the minister has no background as a individuals in the House, whom I am counsellor as I have ever only seen him extremely proud of and will publicly in his role as the Minister of Finance. As thank. I face the government representatives in asking the ministers about IQ, he The first person is Allan Rumbolt and I apparently garnered some understanding now extend my gratification, as I am of my passion on this issue and his proud of his efforts in this House on statement was completely heartwarming

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1421 to my person. As many Nunavummiut I ask all members to join me in found out, I hope they also extend their congratulating these fine athletes. Thank pride to their representatives. you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to ask that we take a >>Applause moment to express this appreciation for the efforts of these three members. Speaker (interpretation); Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members’ Statements. Member for Rankin Inlet and Chesterfield Inlet, Mr. >>Applause Tom Sammurtok.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Member’s Statement 193 – 4(3): Members’ Statements. Member for Medical Transient Centre for Hudson Bay, Mr. Allan Rumbolt. Rankin Inlet (Sammurtok, T)

Member’s Statement 192 – 4(3): Mr. Tom Sammurtok (interpretation): Sanikiluaq Success at Arctic Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation Winter Games (Rumbolt) ends) I rise today to address the need for a medical transient centre for Rankin Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Inlet. and good morning. I thank Mr. Shooyook for the kind words. We’re all Mr. Speaker, my constituency office is doing the best we can for the people of located in the Siniktarvik Hotel. Day Nunavut. after day, I see people coming through on medical travel from other Kivalliq Mr. Speaker, the other day, I rose in the communities for medical services for House to commend four athletes who themselves or their children. Sometimes will be attending the Arctic Winter these individuals wait all day in the Games. Today, I rise in the House to talk lobby of the hotel and occasionally even about their success at the Games. have to take care of a baby or a young child’s needs in public. In the badminton division for bronze medal for double juvenile males, Janie Mr. Speaker, although medical clients Audla of Sanikiluaq and Mike Kavik of are often given a meal voucher, they still Sanikiluaq; bronze medal for double have to endure long waits for their flight, junior males went to Sappa Cookie of which more often than not is cancelled Sanikiluaq along with his partner Keane sometimes due weather and sometimes Sudlovenick of Iqaluit; bronze medal for due to mechanical, while sitting in the single junior females went to Mina public lobby of a hotel. Mannuk of Sanikiluaq; and a silver medal for badminton doubles junior Mr. Speaker, these individuals are females went to Mina Mannuk of already stressed with having to travel to Sanikiluaq along with her partner, Myca receive medical services. Having to wait Nakashook of Pangnirtung. for hours in a public area puts additional stress on them. Alternatively, medical travel clients sit on the metal benches at

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1422 the airport for hours on end, sometimes Member’s Statement 195 – 4(3): as long as eight hours, because they have Growing Up in Pangnirtung nowhere else to go and rest. (Okalik) Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, this situation cannot Mr. Speaker. It is a gorgeous day out continue. It is not fair to those Kivalliq there and as the weather is becoming patients who are already experiencing more beautiful with each day, the stress of needing medical care. exhilaration is in the air.

I encourage the Minister of Health to Mr. Speaker, I was born in Pangnirtung, consider establishing a medical transient which is very appropriate for caribou centre in the community of Rankin Inlet. issues due to its naming after bull caribou. Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will have questions on this issue. Thank I had a joyous childhood as I was you, Mr. Speaker. growing up, as every year when school was out, every summer up to fall we Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. would go camping at our traditional Members’ Statements. Member for lands called Nattiliariaq and we spent Uqqummiut, Mr. Pauloosie Keyootak. many wonderful summers there. Further, there was a spot we would camp at and Member’s Statement 194 – 4(3): spent weeks enjoying the lands at Happy Birthday to Daughter Kangiavallaaq, which is, in my opinion, (Keyootak) the most scenic landscape in the whole Mr. Keyootak (interpretation): Thank world of the lands I am familiar with. you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to express The reasons for these fond childhood my pride and love for my dear daughter memories of the lands are plentiful. who is celebrating her birthday today, so I wish her a wonderful day. We had a small boat and although we had a large family within it and the When she was born, I was there helping kicker was not very powerful, we still to deliver her when my wife went into seemingly sped along. My dear late labour. mother would spend the time passing along our traditional names of lands we To my dearest daughter, I extend best passed, pointing out areas that our wishes for a wonderful day to Ms. Nena ancestors named and what the purpose Elise Keyootak. Thank you, Mr. was along with the Inuit history Speaker. particular to that land.

>>Applause I recall these stories fondly, as we would go there every year to harvest caribou Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. for our sustenance. When we would Members’ Statements. Member for prepare to leave our camping site, our Iqaluit-Sinaa, Mr. Paul Okalik. parents would have us collect all the garbage, as we were never to leave anything behind because caribou

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1423 inhabited the land and this was the sole trained to be trainers currently. The purpose for keeping the land clean. course commenced yesterday.

One exceptional memory I retain was First aid is important everywhere and in when I was eight years of age and I shot everything we do, as people can get hurt my first caribou. When we eventually at any time. In Pangnirtung, this is a very returned to the community of important skill, especially when Pangnirtung, my parents invited the residents go boating and offer tourist community for a feast to celebrate and trips, which have become quite complex, share my first caribou harvest. I tried to and this includes certain jobs. emulate that special feeling of our traditional area by bringing my children I am delighted to see people with the to that same area, but by that time, no capacity to train other trainers. I wish to caribou were present and that was quite name the following people in rueful as without caribou, my childhood Pangnirtung taking the course, as well as memories became just stories. to recognize their trainer first, Randy Idlout. His class is composed of trainers Nevertheless, I am especially thankful in first aid and they are Poisey Mike, that here in Nunavut, particularly in the Jimmy Keenainak, Tommy Nakasuk, Kivalliq region, I am invited to Daniel Mike, Jutanie Arnakak, Archie participate in caribou hunts when I travel Uniuqsaagak, and Joe Keyootak, who to their areas and I am always grateful to are taking the three-day course within my fellow Inuit. As such, I share your this “training the trainer” program. deep concerns about caribou due to their Thank you, Mr. Speaker. importance. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Members’ Statements. Member for Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Pangnirtung, Mr. Johnny Mike. Members’ Statements. Member for Cambridge Bay, Mr. Keith Peterson. Member’s Statement 196 – 4(3): First Aid Course in Pangnirtung (Mike) Member’s Statement 197 – 4(3): Cambridge Bay Participants at the Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): Arctic Winter Games (Peterson) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, people of Nunavut and Pangnirtung. Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize some This morning, I just want to make an young athletes from Cambridge Bay announcement in this House about the who are part of the Arctic Winter Games importance of (interpretation ends) first team. aid, (interpretation) as it is called, and of the training in this field currently taking Mr. Speaker, we have Kanen Evalik, place in Pangnirtung. Although the who is on the basketball team, Danielle course is specific to Pangnirtung and is Omilgoetok on the basketball team, Liza being offered only to the people in Crockatt and Alysha Maksagak, who are Pangnirtung, the attendees are being

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1424 on the basketball team, and Donovan in the Gallery. I have no more names on Niptanatiak, who is on the tennis team. my list. Moving on. Item 6. Oral Questions. Member for Rankin Inlet and Mr. Speaker, we are very proud of our Chesterfield Inlet, Mr. Tom Sammurtok. athletes and we are very proud of the team representing us in Nuuk and here in Item 6: Oral Questions Iqaluit. We’re tuned to the radio every day listening to the medal updates as we Question 260 – 4(3): Medical are very proud of them. Congratulations Transient Centre for Rankin Inlet to the entire team representing Nunavut (Sammurtok, T) at the Arctic Winter Games. Thank you, Mr. Tom Sammurtok (interpretation): Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I say “good morning” to the residents of Rankin Inlet >>Applause and Chesterfield Inlet, as well as our fellow Nunavummiut. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Members’ Statements. I have no more (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, I names on my list. Moving on. Item 4. would like to direct my question to the Returns to Oral Questions. Item 5. Minister of Health. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery. (interpretation ends) Hon. Minister of Mr. Speaker, I recognize that we have Education, Mr. Quassa. some new faces at the table. We have a new federal government, a new federal Item 5: Recognition of Visitors in the Minister of Health, and a new Gallery opportunity to negotiate some support for opening health-related infrastructure Hon. Paul Quassa: Thank you, Mr. in Nunavut. Speaker. This morning, I would like to welcome and recognize Hon. Alfred Earlier today, I spoke of the need for a Moses sitting here in the gallery. Alfred medical transient centre for those Moses is my colleague from the medical clients who have nowhere to go Northwest Territories, where he serves between travelling and their medical as an MLA for Boot Lake as well appointment. as Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, and the Minister Can the minister provide an update on responsible for Youth. I am pleased to what consideration has been given to welcome my fellow Minister of opening a medical transient centre in Education as he makes his way home Rankin Inlet for medical clients who from the Arctic Winter Games. travel to the community for medical (interpretation) Welcome. Thank you, reasons? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. >>Applause (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Health, Ms. Monica Ell-Kanayuk. Speaker: Welcome to the gallery. (interpretation) Recognition of Visitors

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Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, As I just recently became Minister of Mr. Speaker. I thank the member for that Health, I will look into it and I will question. As we know, Health Canada update my colleagues. Thank you, Mr. funds boarding homes, stays, Speaker. commercial accommodations, and private billets for clients on medical Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. travel. Your final supplementary, Mr. Sammurtok. Currently, there have been some discussions. I have just become the Mr. Tom Sammurtok (interpretation): Minister of Health, so I’ll be checking Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation into what the discussions have been with ends) I recognize that the federal Health Canada to date. As I am told, government plays an important role in currently, the discussions with Health determining the services that are offered Canada have been advising them that to Nunavut’s medical clients under the boarding homes are being considered for Non-Insured Health Benefits Program. Rankin Inlet and Cambridge Bay. Thank Will the minister commit to bringing you, Mr. Speaker. forward the need for a medical transient centre in Rankin Inlet when she next Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. meets with her federal counterparts to Your first supplementary, Mr. negotiate the funding and services Sammurtok. provided under the Non-Insured Heath Benefits? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Tom Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the response from Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. the minister. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate Minister of Health, Ms. Ell-Kanayuk. that in communities such as Iqaluit, Ottawa and Winnipeg, non-government Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, entities operate medical boarding homes, Mr. Speaker. I thank the member for that which can provide services for transient question. Discussions with Health medical clients. Canada are required as they fund the accommodations for medical travel Can the minister provide an update on through the Non-Insured Health Benefits whether any non-government entities Program. They fund the boarding home have put forward proposals or stays, commercial accommodations, and suggestions to open and operate a private billets for clients on medical medical boarding home in Rankin Inlet? travel. Discussions with Health Canada Thank you, Mr. Speaker. are necessary to open boarding homes as they set to reimburse rates that we will Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. pay to Health. Depending on how the Minister of Health, Ms. Ell-Kanayuk. boarding homes are financed, they could have an impact on the Government of Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Nunavut’s debt cap. Uqaqtitsijii. (interpretation) I also thank my colleague for that question. I have Mr. Speaker, I will be having those not heard of who had put in proposals. discussions with my officials and with

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1426 federal officials when the appropriate in September 2012. Of course, these time happens. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. regulations outline the ways in which school teams are to carry out language of Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. instruction provisions in the Education Oral Questions. Member for Iqaluit- Act. Niaqunnguu, Ms. Pat Angnakak. You are right that the rights of the Question 261 – 4(3): Language French linguistic minority population are Instruction Requirements in protected under Section 23 of the Nunavut Schools (Angnakak) Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In addition, as per section Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. 158 of the Education Act, these charter Speaker. Good morning to everybody. rights prevail over any part of the Education Act, in particular, with respect Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my to language of instruction. question to the Minister of Education. Since the implementation of the 2008 Mr. Speaker, there is only one French Education Act, my department has been language school in Nunavut. As you working with CSFN to provide a 0.5 PY may be aware, Nunavut’s Education Act in order to allow for Inuit language has distinct provisions relating to instruction. Mr. Speaker, I would just education for French language speakers. like to add that I had talked to the chair Unfortunately, in upholding French of CSFN and brought that issue up. As language rights under the legislation, it the Minister of Education, I am very seems that the Inuit language rights of looking forward to working more closely those who attend the French school are with CSFN on that issue. (interpretation) not protected. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There is no requirement for the Inuit Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. language to be taught in Nunavut’s Your first supplementary, Ms. French language schools. Can the Angnakak. minister clearly explain why this is the case? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate his response. Mr. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker, one of the lessons learned by Minister of Education, Mr. Paul Quassa. the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was that the residential Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): school policy of forbidding children Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank my from speaking their mother tongue was colleague for that question regarding devastating to their identity and future Inuit language in our schools. I will well-being. respond in English. Will the minister commit to upholding (interpretation ends) Of course, as the Inuit language rights of all Nunavut everybody probably knows, Language of youth and ensure that the Inuit language Instruction Regulations came into force

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1427 is taught in all Nunavut schools without (interpretation ends) Thank you, Mr. exception? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Community and Government An Hon. Member: Hear, hear! Services.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Speaker, during the fall 2015 sitting, Minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. the Legislative Assembly approved $500,000 in capital funding for the Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): department to begin replacing two fire Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my trucks in Nunavut each year, beginning colleague as it is quite apparent how in the 2016-17 fiscal year. dedicated she is regarding this matter. I believe all of us should feel that way On October 28, 2015, the minister at that about our language and its time indicated that Rankin Inlet and importance to our people. Cape Dorset would each receive a fire truck in the 2016-17 fiscal year. We should also remember that amendments are being drafted to Can the minister provide a specific date improve the Education Act after the in which Rankin Inlet will receive this requisite legislation review called for in replacement fire truck? (interpretation) the Act. It includes the (interpretation Thank you, Mr. Chairman. ends) language of instruction (interpretation) that ended up being one Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. of the main topics during the committee (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister review of the Education Act. This has for Community and Government resulted in several options I have Services, Mr. Joe Savikataaq. reviewed related to languages. Hon. Joe Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. With the legislated requirements Speaker. I thank the member for his (interpretation ends) under the Inuit question. I can’t give him an exact date, Language Protection Act, but by sealift in 2016, a brand-new fire (interpretation) that is critical to this and truck will roll off the ship onto Rankin I will work diligently to try to implement Inlet. Thank you. this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Oral Questions. Member for Rankin Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Inlet South, Mr. Alexander Sammurtok. Your first supplementary, Mr. Sammurtok. Question 262 – 4(3): Update on the Fire Truck Replacement Project Mr. Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. (Sammurtok) Speaker. (interpretation) Awesome, so I Mr. Alexander Sammurtok thank you. (interpretation): Good morning, my fellow residents of Rankin Inlet and (interpretation ends) Can the minister Nunavummiut. indicate what the specific model of fire

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1428 truck his department has ordered to Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. replace the aging fire trucks in Rankin Oral Questions. Member for Baker Lake, Inlet? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Simeon Mikkungwak.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Question 263 – 4(3): Northern Minister of Community and Government Premiers’ Forum (Mikkungwak) Services, Mr. Savikataaq. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Hon. Joe Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to Baker Lake Speaker. No, I don’t have the kind of people and all Nunavummiut. detail as to the make and model and how much water it can pump per minute. All Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the my officials have gone through that, they Premier. know what is needed, and they have the specs. I can assure the minister that the Last June, the annual Northern Premiers’ new fire truck for Rankin Inlet will be Forum was held in the community of adequate for its use and purpose. Thank Kugluktuk. Following the meeting, the you. three territorial governments issued a joint statement. This statement indicated, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. and I quote, “Premiers noted the federal Your final supplementary, Mr. role in supporting the northern Sammurtok. transportation system.”

Mr. Sammurtok (interpretation): Thank Can the Premier indicate if he has had you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize for discussions yet with his NWT and referring to you as the Chairman. Yukon counterparts concerning the recommendations that were contained in (interpretation ends) Can the minister the recently released final report from indicate what the lifespan for this new the federal Canada Transportation Act fire truck would be? (interpretation) Review Report? Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Speaker.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Minister of Community and Government Premier of Nunavut, Mr. Taptuna. Services, Mr. Savikataaq. Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Hon. Joe Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the member for that Speaker. I believe the lifespan of most, if question. Mr. Speaker, the three not all, fire trucks is 20 years. This new territorial premiers met in beautiful fire truck should be within service for 20 Kugluktuk in June. Of course, in our years. They may have to do renovations discussions, one of our number one somewhere in between, but the normal priorities is infrastructure or lack of lifespan of a fire truck is 20 years. Thank infrastructure. The three northern you. premiers work very well together. We do get support from our southern colleagues. For the most part, there are

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1429 many things that we discuss in the question. Mr. Speaker, during our Northern Premiers’ Forum. Of course, Northern Premiers’ Forum, we infrastructure is one of the key absolutely put in our wish list to the components and it’s a pillar of our federal government. One of them, of northern vision. course, is infrastructure capital base plus funding that we have been requesting Mr. Speaker, we haven’t had a chance to from the federal government. review or look at the new Act that has come out on transportation. We intend to As you know, all three territories lack do that next month in Whitehorse when major infrastructure, highways, marine we have our Northern Premiers’ Forum facilities, housing, and other necessary there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. infrastructure that benefit our northern communities. At this upcoming meeting, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. I certainly will be pushing for more Your first supplementary, Mr. infrastructure funding from the federal Mikkungwak. government.

Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. This framework for training, as the Speaker. I think I have stated in the member is well aware, I have been House a number of times that I come recently appointed along with the from the community of beautiful Baker Minister of Nunavut Arctic College to Lake, which I represent. the Inuit Training Corporation and we intend to utilize that to our advantage for >>Laughter beneficiaries, whether we’re partnering with municipalities, other organizations, The Municipality of Baker Lake recently the government, including the mining passed a formal motion concerning the industry, to best find avenues of training need to support the Amaruq project near our Inuit people for employment. Thank the Meadowbank mine. you, Mr. Speaker.

Another one of the announcements made Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. at last year’s Northern Premiers’ Forum Your final supplementary, Mr. was that, and I quote, “Premiers continue Mikkungwak. to support and endorse their joint proposal to the Canadian Northern Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Economic Development Agency for new Speaker. To what extent are the three funding to support a Pan-Territorial territories working together to make Framework for Industry Training.” Can recommendations to the federal the Premier update us today on the status government concerning its review of the of this issue? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Nutrition North Canada Program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Premier of Nunavut, Mr. Taptuna. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Premier of Nunavut, Mr. Taptuna. Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the member for that

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Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker. I thank the member for that Minister of Education, Mr. Paul Quassa. excellent question. Although we are one of three territories, our uniqueness is Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): slightly different when it comes to the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my Nutrition North Canada Program. I colleague for that question on that issue. certainly have written a letter to the What I can speak to with regard to Minister of Indigenous and Northern (interpretation ends) social passing Affairs to voice our concerns. (interpretation) is that we look at it from a different perspective. We are trying to As you know, Mr. Speaker, we do resolve this issue in a different way in collect food basket prices from all such areas as literacy and reading skills. communities and this is the data that we use to put forth our arguments on how We have started to implement stronger the program can improved. Mr. Speaker, linguistic foundations within our schools we will certainly be talking about that. for (interpretation ends) literacy (interpretation) courses due to its Of course, the program is targeted importance in education. Without strong mainly for the northern communities and literacy skills, it seems students fall this is one of the things that the federal behind when they can’t read and speak minister is certainly willing to review properly. This is why literacy comprised and look at to improve the program for of advancing reading skills is very our northern communities. Thank you, critical. We have implemented Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) literacy (interpretation) as a core course, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. including mathematics and Oral Questions. Member for Iqaluit- (interpretation ends) science. Sinaa, Mr. Paul Okalik. (interpretation) These form the basic curricula we consider important to our Question 264 – 4(3): Social Passing in schools. Nunavut Schools (Okalik) In fact, we have started to develop new Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, curricula for specific courses, especially Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) I in light of past comments about this would like to ask my question to the issue concerning students who are Minister of Education. particularly far behind on certain subjects to the point it is quite noticeable As you know, we have made education a at times. That is why we are facing this priority and I believe our government challenge through this other venue of committed to dealing with social passing strengthening our courses to move from in our schools. I would like to know the social promotion, which we don’t status of that situation in our classrooms. support as a department. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Nonetheless, we have focused on other ways to combat this principle. In fact, we have introduced the concept of

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1431 parental engagement and increasing ends) I think I answered the question on student attendance rates. These are some the first question stage where we are examples of how we are trying to doing a lot of work in terms of resolve this challenge related to social improving our literacy rates. We’re promotion. putting in learning coaches. We’re putting a lot of emphasis on how we can However, our efforts will continue. ensure our students are graduating at the Further, it seems obvious that it will same level as any other Canadian benefit our students as they work schools across Canada. towards completion of their High School Diploma, along with the numbers of Certainly, this is something that the graduates who are on par with their Department of Education has been peers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. eloquently working towards. With this new Education Act that was just being Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. reviewed, these are areas that we Your first supplementary, Mr. Okalik. certainly are working towards to ensure that all our students are graduating at the Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, same level as any other Canadian Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) Can students across Canada. (interpretation) the minister explain when the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. department will get rid of social passing in our classrooms? (interpretation) Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Oral Questions. Member for South Baffin, Mr. David Joanasie. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. Question 265 – 4(3): Vacant Houses (Joanasie) Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): Mr. Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Speaker, I can’t really respond to that you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Nunavummiut. Welcome, visitors in the gallery. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your final supplementary, Mr. Okalik. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister responsible for the Housing Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, Corporation. Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) There are no plans in place to get rid of social Mr. Speaker, as you are aware, there are passing in our classrooms. Am I correct a number of houses that were once with that response? (interpretation) owned by homeowners and have since Thank you, Mr. Speaker. foreclosed due to various reasons.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Speaker, the housing corporation Minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. and the banks have interest with many or perhaps all of these houses. However, Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): these houses sit empty for much of the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation year, sometimes years at a time.

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I would like to ask the minister: can he (interpretation ends) Office of the Public indicate how many foreclosed houses Trustee, (interpretation) who handled the currently sit empty in Nunavut estates that would involve the title to communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. private homes? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Minister responsible for the Housing (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Corporation, Mr. George Hickes. responsible for the Nunavut Housing Corporation, Mr. Hickes. Hon. George Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the member for that Hon. George Hickes: Thank you, Mr. question. When a resident of Nunavut Speaker. I’m not aware of a direct goes through a foreclosure process, it is relationship between the Public Trustee with a financial institution usually being and the Nunavut Housing Corporation. a bank. When a bank forecloses on a Whenever a property would be put up, it property, they become the owner of the would typically go up for auction property. Unless the Nunavut Housing through the bank or a tender process. Corporation has an invested interest in the property, it is dealt with through the Obviously, the Nunavut Housing normal financial processes of a bank. Corporation would be interested in participating if the private market in that As the Nunavut Housing Corporation, community is unable to purchase that the only involvement we would have is home. It may be something that the if we have a lien on the property or a Nunavut Housing Corporation might mortgage that would be held through look at purchasing from the bank NHC, which then would be a quick through its own capital expenditure claim where NHC would purchase the dollars to be able to put either another property back. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. staff housing or a public housing unit on the books for that community. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your first supplementary, Mr. Joanasie. As far as I’m aware, there’s not a direct relationship between the Public Trustee Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank and the Nunavut Housing Corporation. you, Mr. Speaker. With the severe Thank you, Mr. Speaker. housing shortage in Nunavut, every house out there that sits vacant is seen as Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. an empty home for a family who might Your final supplementary, Mr. Joanasie. not have a home or is living in overcrowding. I know that they go Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank through the (interpretation ends) Office you, Mr. Speaker. Although I know that of the Public Trustee. there are foreclosed houses, there are public houses that are boarded up that (interpretation) Mr. Speaker, I would need maintenance or renovations. I’m like to ask the minister: can he explain sorry, Mr. Speaker. In addition to private the working relationship the Nunavut houses that sit empty, there are many Housing Corporation has with the public houses that are boarded up that

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1433 need maintenance and renovations. Can Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. the minister indicate how many public Oral Questions. Member for Baker Lake, housing units currently sit vacant due to Mr. Simeon Mikkungwak. the need of major renovation or repair? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question 266 – 4(3): Support for Baker Lake Hunters Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (Mikkungwak) Minister responsible for the Housing Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Corporation, Mr. Hickes. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister Hon. George Hickes: Thank you, Mr. of Environment. Speaker. This is a question that has been raised to me a couple of times now in Earlier this morning, the minister made a private from other members in my office statement about sealing issues and funds of concerns with the lack of housing that made available by the government to we have in Nunavut. assist hunters.

We have almost borderline derelict With that being the case, the Minister of properties that are in communities that Environment is well aware that I come are in dire need of upgrading to make from an inland community, representing them habitable. It’s something that I’m inland Inuit who harvest only terrestrial very much aware of and it’s something animals during their hunting trips. I that the housing corporation staff has would like to ask the minister: what been looking at doing an inventory. I about our situation? Has the minister don’t have that exact number right now, reviewed any issues particular to the but it is something that the Nunavut inland Inuit who depend on the Housing Corporation is working terrestrial furbearers and whether he towards. We will be working with the would commit to the same kind of LHOs in the communities to identify assistance for Inuit who harvest retrofit dollars to be able to bring those terrestrial furbearing animals for resale? units up to code as fast as possible. Can the minister elaborate on this issue That being said, as I’m sure all members and whether assistance will also be are aware, the Nunavut Housing provided to them as well? Thank you Corporation is very tight for capital very much, Mr. Speaker. dollars. It is something that we’re continuously striving to work towards. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Some houses are extremely dilapidated, Minister of Environment, Mr. Johnny if you want to call it that, where we have Mike. to identify whether it’s worth fixing them or replacing them, depending upon Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): the age. Overall, our housing stock is, if Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my I recall the number correctly, about an colleague for that question. Yes, that 83 percent ratio of quality. Thank you, issue has been an ongoing undertaking Mr. Speaker. throughout all of our work related to

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1434 terrestrial furbearing animals or as you overseas were our main focus. Due to said, animals with four legs that gallop. the misinformation used to enact that ban, the sealing industry was This continues to be a matter that is misrepresented and misunderstood. continuously being worked on within the Department of Environment for the My colleague is asking about another Nunavut territory. In my previous matter, but the Department of statements over the past two years, the Environment has continued to provide Nunavut Harvester Support Program was support through various initiatives for identified for review, which was trappers or wolf hunters who depend on completed, and I expect to see the results these furs. We have continued to provide in the short term once the cabinet has support in selling their products. This is completed their review of this report. solely under our government and doesn’t Thank you, Mr. Speaker. need to be part of a federal-territorial agreement. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your first supplementary, Mr. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mikkungwak. Your final supplementary, Mr. Mikkungwak. Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Would the minister commit to the same Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The kind of announcement for this sector that terrestrial animals that we rely on he made for the sealing industry inhabiting the include wolverines, assistance program? What kind of wolves, polar bears, and grizzlies. Can funding assistance could be announced the minister make an announcement in under the federal government funding this House some time down the road on agreement with respect to fur sales? Is the types of assistance provided to Inuit there any agreement to that effect? who depend on these furs to supplement Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. their incomes? Will the minister commit to making an announcement in the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. House as to the types of assistance our Minister of Environment, Mr. Mike. government provides through monetary incentives? Thank you very much, Mr. Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, regarding my colleague’s question, it is related to Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. the sealing industry. The sealing industry Minister of Environment, Mr. Mike. and fishing industry, particularly marine fisheries, have comprised the main focus Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): in the recent past, as seal fur prices Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With respect to suffered a drastic decline in prices after a polar bears, what we consider true ban was enacted. Sealing issues and marine bears, I had already made an sales of sealskins was our focus during announcement to that effect here in the the EU ban on sealskins. Just recently, House about the drastic drop in polar the developments that transpired bear fur prices recently. In addition, with

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1435 respect to our hunters who are impacted Hon. Joe Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. by this drop in price, I announced Speaker. I thank the member for the support initiatives specific to polar bear question. Since there is a third party hunters and this was due to the drastic involved that we have no control over, I decline in pelt prices. can’t give the member a deadline as to when the policy will be rolled out, but as With respect to the other species he soon as practically possible. Thank you. mentioned, I concur and I can commit to making an announcement at some point Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. on the fur prices and support programs Your first supplementary, Mr. Rumbolt. therein. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. “Practically possible,” I’m not sure how Oral Questions. Member for Hudson much of a timeframe that is. Years, Bay, Mr. Allan Rumbolt. months, who knows?

Question 267 – 4(3): New Search and To continue, with the review of this Rescue Policy (Rumbolt) policy, did the policy get a total review or were just certain sections of the policy Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. reviewed? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Community and Government Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Services. Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Savikataaq. Mr. Speaker, on March 9, I asked a number of questions regarding search Hon. Joe Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. and rescue in our communities. In one of Speaker. The whole policy was the replies to my questions, the minister reviewed, but only certain sections of it stated that “A draft search and rescue would have to be added to or changed. A policy is complete right now, but it is not good portion of this is so that we will public yet. We are still consulting with have the capability and processing to the RCMP because they are part of the help volunteer searchers where, under organization.” He also stated, “Once the normal wear and tear, the parts of their policy is published, we will inform all equipment that they use for searching are search and rescue committees in all replaced plus also, if there are any new communities.” equipment that is needed. Right now, we use satellite phones, other For the record, when does the minister communicating devices, and SPOT expect to have the new Search and units, so we look to see if there is any Rescue Policy finalized and put into new equipment that can be used that’s force? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. coming up. The big part of the review is so that we can help the searchers out Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. when their equipment that they use on a Minister of Community and Government search is broken down or needs repairs. Services, Mr. Joe Savikataaq. Thank you.

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. With respect to that issue, you are Oral Questions. Member for Rankin truthful in stating that the (interpretation Inlet and Chesterfield Inlet, Mr. Tom ends) Nunavut Research Institute Sammurtok. (interpretation) has adequate facilities to conduct this type of testing. Question 268 – 4(3): Meat Testing Nevertheless, there are reasons related to Facilities in Nunavut (Sammurtok, public safety that we have to deal with. T) We work with them on these issues. Mr. Tom Sammurtok (interpretation): They may have the facility, but an actual Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation laboratory technician hasn’t been ends) I would like to direct my question available, although it has that capacity. to the Minister responsible for Nunavut Arctic College. To date, we have yet to change the current set-up where we send samples Mr. Speaker, as my colleagues are for testing to Northern to their aware, there have been a number of laboratory. However, we are trying to occasions where meat such as walrus establish the mandated testing equipment meat has been suspected of having to be able to assess samples at the trichinosis. Currently, the meat has to be (interpretation ends) Nunavut Research sent out of the territory to be tested, Institute (interpretation) to try to enable which means long delays before them to do this work. However, we also communities know whether the meat is require the approval of the Department safe to eat. of Health prior to being able to do this work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker The Nunavut Research Institute, which is part of Nunavut Arctic College, has a Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. laboratory which handles testing such as Your first supplementary, Mr. water samples. Has any consideration Sammurtok. been given to adapting the laboratory to permit the testing of meat? Thank you, Mr. Tom Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. Mr. Speaker. Speaker. I’m sure that the minister is aware that when meat is sent out for Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. testing out of territory, by the time the Minister responsible for Nunavut Arctic results come back, the meat is no longer College, Mr. Paul Quassa. fresh. People would like to have access to meat. Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the good work colleague for requesting information on that is done at the Nunavut Research that. I completely identify with the Institute. The Environmental subject he is querying about since I am Technology Program, in particular, has from and our marine areas hold been very successful in promoting the abundant walrus populations, which is value of science and wildlife also well known. management.

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Would the minister consider raising the Mr. Tom Sammurtok: Qujannamiik, issue of using the Nunavut Research Mr Speaker. The community of Iqaluit is Institute laboratory for the testing of not only home to the Nunavut Research meat samples with Nunavut Arctic Institute headquarters but also has a full- College’s board of management? Thank time veterinarian in the community. Will you, Mr. Speaker the minister commit to working with local professionals towards establishing Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. a meat testing facility in Nunavut so that Minister responsible for Nunavut Arctic hunters and other consumers of locally College, Mr. Quassa. harvested game, such as walrus and polar bear, can get quicker results when Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): there is a suspicion of trichinosis? Thank Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for you, Mr. Speaker. proceeding with that question. Yes, let us be aware that samples requiring Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. testing have 24 hours after the test for (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister the results to be forwarded. I wanted to responsible for Nunavut Arctic College, clarify that aspect. Mr Quassa.

Furthermore, as per my earlier statement Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): as a resident of Igloolik with numerous Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank my walrus within our vicinity, there is a colleague for that question. This is for all local research facility in Igloolik. We are our information that samples are usually reviewing the best avenue to house a not tested immediately as it requires laboratory to test walrus meat samples trained lab technicians. Perhaps we and the most appropriate placement for should request more information to that it. We are in the midst of this review. end from the Department of Health as it is more pertinent to their mandate. As per my earlier comment of the facility in Igloolik, if you were to However, it is impossible to conduct envision the community of Igloolik and testing immediately upon receiving the perhaps if I were to say it in English, it is sample. We require a lab technician the (interpretation ends) mushroom present to conduct this testing. As per (interpretation) building, as locals call it, my earlier comments, the (interpretation which used to provide the testing of ends) Nunavut Research Institute walrus samples in the past. (interpretation) has been researching ways to implement this to allay concerns I reiterate that this is currently being expressed in the past. reviewed to date where we would place this laboratory. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your statement is truthful that to date, we’ve had to send our walrus meat for Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. testing in Northern Quebec due to the Your final supplementary, Mr. availability of trained lab technicians. Sammurtok. We have commenced preliminary discussions about possible locations for a lab.

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Yes, walrus are quite numerous in the Speaker (interpretation): Your first (interpretation ends) Foxe Basin supplementary, Mr. Okalik. (interpretation) where residents of Igloolik, Hall Beach, Coral Harbour, and Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, Cape Dorset harvest from, and this Mr. Speaker. We publicly state that the includes certain Kivalliq communities. environment is of prime importance to We must consider these issues. We are this government, so I am asking if the looking for a possible solution by department has any plans to ban the reviewing all related factors. Thank you, usage of plastic bags in our retail outlets Mr. Speaker. throughout Nunavut. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Oral Questions. Member for Iqaluit- Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Sinaa, Mr. Paul Okalik. Minister of Environment, Mr. Mike.

Question 269 – 4(3): The Elimination Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): of Plastic Bags in Nunavut Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just indicated (Okalik) that I refuse to answer the question from Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, the Member for Iqaluit-Sinaa. Thank Mr. Speaker. I would now like to ask a you. question to the Minister of Environment. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. As people are well aware, throughout The minister refuses to answer the Nunavut, many retail outlets still offer question. Therefore, I’ll go to the next plastic bags that tend to litter our name on the list. Oral Questions. environment. Even with that knowledge, Member for South Baffin, Mr. David they still use the plastic bags. I wonder if Joanasie. this can be phased out in the future. Question 270 – 4(3): Nunavut In the south, they use paper bags that are Graduation Rates (Joanasie) biodegradable and won’t have a detrimental impact on their environment. Mr. Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question to the minister is whether I have a question for the Minister of this practice can be implemented in our Education. stores through legislation by our government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. He tabled yesterday the annual report for 2012-13. On page 36, I read that the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. graduation rate in Nunavut was 32.2 Minister of Environment, Mr. Johnny percent in 2013. Mike. Can the minister indicate what the Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): number one barrier is for Nunavut Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation students completing their grade 12 ends) I refuse to answer the question of certificate? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. the Iqaluit-Sinaa member. Thank you.

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. During our review of the rates in 2012- Minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. 13, starting from the year 2001-02, the (interpretation ends) graduation rates Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): (interpretation) rose from 117 in 2001 up Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my to 216 in 2013. The numbers continue to colleague for asking questions relative to rise from 2001 at a rate of 22.8 percent educational issues consistently. in the numbers of graduates.

There are different underlying reasons With that being the case, we are trying to that are obvious, as no single barrier is place an emphasis on the rising numbers the sole cause. Due to these issues, we of graduates since Nunavut’s inception, are trying to resolve the challenges we which I take pride in, albeit rather face. Perhaps one reason can be slowly, but it is rising since Nunavut inconsistent attendance. entered Confederation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As per my statement that there are various factors, parental engagement in Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. their children’s education and their Your first supplementary, Mr. Joanasie. encouraging their child to attend school consistently is one aspect for success. Mr. Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The minister didn’t indicate what the Perhaps another matter we have noticed number one barrier is. He said that there that I indicated earlier is how we can are many factors and one of the strengthen linguistic skills, such as responses, I believe, was attendance. reading and writing within (interpretation ends) literacy, My next question is: what Nunavut-wide (interpretation) which is another reason measures that promote attendance in for our push towards literacy schools does the department implement? programming. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Another matter that faces us in this area Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. is the concept of standardization or a Minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. (interpretation ends) standardized system (interpretation) that has been studied and Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): which we are trying to resolve. These are Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the some of the various factors that come member rephrase his question so that I into play, not just a simplistic barrier. understand it? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

What I can state towards this goal is that Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. ever since Nunavut came into being, the Please rephrase your question, Mr. numbers of graduates have continued to Joanasie. rise, and here I am speaking about (interpretation ends) graduation rates Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank (interpretation) from Nunavut’s you, Mr. Speaker. What I’m trying to inception in 1999. ask the minister is: what is your department doing to increase the

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1440 attendance rate of students in Nunavut’s are graduating. Attendance was one of schools? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. the problems and that usually leads to dropping out, as the minister is aware. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister I would like to know from the minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. what the dropout rate is and how many return to the high school after a short Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): break. I hope I was clear. Thank you, Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to Mr. Speaker. thank the member for rephrasing his question. As I indicated earlier, there are Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. various reasons. We’re also trying to Minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. increase the attendance rate. For example, we are looking at setting up Hon. Paul Quassa: Thank you, Mr. different programs and curriculum in the Speaker. The dropout rate is calculated schools. using Statistics Canada methodology as a percentage of those aged 20 to 24 who Again, exercise is very important for the are not attending school and who have students. For example, we have team not graduated from high school. competitions in the various communities. Sports competitions are For a variety of reasons, the Department very important and help to increase the of Education does not report dropout attendance rate because they want to rates. We do report the positive side of participate in the team competitions. high school completion metrics in the form of graduation numbers and rates, We are also looking at the programs that which are presented in the report. are set in the schools and we have set up Graduation rates are also available Nunavut-relevant programs because as through the Nunavut Bureau of Statistics people from Nunavut, we would like to website. see a made-in-Nunavut curriculum. We usually get parts of programs from other The Department of Education feels that jurisdictions. When they come up here, all Nunavummiut who have not we adapt them so that they become completed high school are encouraged to Nunavut-relevant and our students have the opportunity to do so at any age. become more aware of their territory. We, therefore, feel that a dropout rate which suggests that a portion of the That’s what we’re doing to increase the population is incapable of succeeding in attendance rate. Thank you. school takes away from that focus.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation) It is primarily due to this Your final supplementary, Mr. Joanasie. reason that we put more emphasis on the ability of students to resume their studies Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank and we send out encouragements to that you, Mr. Speaker. This is my last effect. Our focus is to have students who question. As I indicated earlier, in your quit for any reason return to their class annual report, it said that [32.2] percent using the (interpretation ends) PASS

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(interpretation) program. This is our Thank you, Mr. Speaker. primary focus to try to resolve that challenge. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker (interpretation): Welcome to The time for question period has the gallery. Item 7. Written Questions. expired. Moving on. (interpretation Item 8. Returns to Written Questions. ends) Mr. Premier Taptuna. (interpretation ends) Item 9. Replies to Opening Address. Item 10. Petitions. Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Item 11. Responses to Petitions. Item 12. Speaker. I seek consent to go back to Reports of Standing and Special Item 5 on the order paper. Thank you, Committees on Bills and Other Matters. Mr. Speaker. Member for Rankin Inlet and Chesterfield Inlet, Mr. Tom Sammurtok. Speaker (interpretation): The member, (interpretation ends) Premier, Item 12: Reports of Standing and (interpretation) would like to return to Special Committees on Bills and Item 5, Recognition of Visitors in the Other Matters Gallery. Are there any nays? I don’t hear any nays. (interpretation ends) Mr. Committee Report 011 – 4(3): Bill 15, Premier, (interpretation) please proceed. An Act to Amend the Land Titles Act (Sammurtok, T) Revert to Item 5: Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery Mr. Tom Sammurtok: Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. I wish to report that Bill Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. 15, An Act to Amend the Land Titles Act, Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. has been reviewed by the Standing Committee on Legislation and that the Mr. Speaker, as I indicated in the past bill is ready for consideration in and this morning, we work very well Committee of the Whole. Thank you, together with our sister territories, Mr. Speaker. Northwest Territories and of course, the Yukon. Speaker: Thank you. Bill 15 will be placed on the order paper for Monday, Mr. Speaker, I recognize in the House March 14. today Northwest Territories Member of the Legislative Assembly Kieron Testart. Item 13. Tabling of Documents. The Hon. Minister of Environment, Mr. Again, Mr. Speaker, both legislative Mike. assemblies work very well together administratively and politically. Item 13: Tabling of Documents

I am quite pleased to welcome also the Minister of Education from the Northwest Territories to the House.

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Tabled Document 095 – 4(3): FPT Tabled Document 099 – 4(3): Lease Ministerial Report – UN Activity Report 2014-2015 Framework Convention on (Savikataaq) Climate Change (UNFCCC) Hon. Joe Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Conference of the Parties COP21 Speaker. I am pleased to table the in Paris, France (Mike) following three documents:

Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation):  Contract Activity Report 2014-15; Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) I am pleased to table the FPT  Procurement Activity Report 2014- Report on the UN Framework 15; and Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) Conference of the Parties  Lease Activity Report 2014-15. COP21 in Paris, France, November 30 to December 11, 2015. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Tabling of Documents. Premier of Tabling of Documents. Member of Nunavut, Mr. Taptuna. Economic Development and Transportation, Ms. Ell-Kanayuk. Tabled Document 100 – 4(3): Response Letter from Premier to Tabled Document 096 – 4(3): Nunavut the Airlines (Taptuna) Airports 20-year Infrastructure Needs Assessment 2014-2034 (Ell- Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. Kanayuk) Speaker. I am pleased to table the Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Response Letter from Premier to the (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Airlines. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker. (interpretation ends) I am pleased to table the Nunavut Airports 20- Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. year Infrastructure Needs Assessment Tabling of Documents. I have no more 2014-[2034]. (interpretation) Thank you, names on my list. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker. Item 14. Notices of Motions. Item 15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Bills. Item 16. Motions. Item 17. First Tabling of Documents. Minister of Reading of Bills. Hon. Minister of Community and Government Services, Health, Ms. Monica Ell-Kanayuk. Mr. Joe Savikataaq. Item 17: First Reading of Bills Tabled Document 097 – 4(3): Contract Activity Report 2014-2015 Bill 14 – Public Health Act – First (Savikataaq) Reading Tabled Document 098 – 4(3): Procurement Activity Report Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk 2014-2015 (Savikataaq) (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the Hon.

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Member for Tasiluk, that Bill 14, officers in ensuring the protection and (interpretation ends) Public Health Act, promotion of public health. Thank you, (interpretation) be read for the first time. Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker: The motion is in order. All (interpretation ends) The motion is in those in favour. (interpretation) Thank order. To the principle of the bill. you. (interpretation ends) Opposed. The motion is carried. An Hon. Member (interpretation): Question. Item 18. Second Reading of Bills. Hon. Minister of Health, Ms. Monica Ell- Speaker: Question has been called. All Kanayuk. those in favour. (interpretation) Thank you. (interpretation ends) Opposed. The Item 18: Second Reading of Bills motion is carried and Bill 14 is referred to the Standing Committee on Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Legislation. Mr. Speaker. I request consent of this Assembly to waive the one-day notice Item 19. [Consideration in] Committee requirement to allow for the second of the Whole on Bills and Other Matters. reading of Bill 14, Public Health Act. Bills 10, 11, 12, and 13 and Tabled Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Documents 73 – 4(2), 116 – 4(2), 140 – 4(2), 149 – 4(2), and 70 – 4(3) with Mr. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Enook in the Chair. (interpretation ends) The minister is requesting that Bill 14 be read for the In accordance with the authority second time today. Are there any nays? provided to me by Motion 16 – 4(3), the There are none. Please proceed, Ms. Ell- committee will stay in session until it Kanayuk. reports itself out.

Bill 14 – Public Health Act – Second Before we proceed to the Committee of Reading the Whole, we will take a 15-minute break. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the (interpretation) Sergeant-at-Arms. Hon. Member of Tasiluk, that Bill 14, Public Health Act, be read for the second >>House recessed at 10:37 and time. Thank you. Committee resumed at 10:56

Mr. Speaker, this bill provides for a Item 19: Consideration in Committee modern and comprehensive public health of the Whole of Bills and Other system for Nunavut. Specifically, it Matters provides for the requirements to be met in order to protect public health and for Chairman (Mr. Enook)(interpretation): duties and powers of the minister, the Good morning, Nunavummiut watching chief public health officer, and other the televised proceedings and listening

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1444 to the radio broadcast. Welcome to your have officials that you would like to committee. Good morning, Minister. bring to the table. Minister Kanayuk.

I would now like to call the committee Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk meeting to order. In Committee of the (interpretation): Yes, I have officials that Whole, we have the following items to I would like to bring to the table. deal with: Bills 10, 11, 12, and 13 and Tabled Documents 73 – 4(2), 116 – 4(2), Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. 140 – 4(2), 149 – 4(2), and 70 – 4(3). Do members agree to bring in Minister What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Kanayuk’s officials? Rumbolt. Some Members: Agreed. Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good morning again. Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman, we wish to continue with the Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the review of the 2016-17 Main Estimates of minister’s officials in. the Department of Economic Development and Transportation, Thank you, Sergeant-at-Arms. Minister followed by Nunavut Arctic College, the Kanayuk, for the record, please departments of Executive and introduce your witnesses. Minister Intergovernmental Affairs, Environment, Kanayuk. Culture and Heritage, Justice, and the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Speaker...I mean Mr. Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my right is Deputy Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt. Minister Sherri Rowe and on my left is Thank you for the almost promotion. Jim Stevens, our Deputy Minister for (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Transportation. In the gallery, we have Rumbolt. Are we in agreement that we Tanya Winmill, Manager of Finance. continue with the review of the main Thank you, Mr. Chairman. estimates for the Department of Economic Development and Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Transportation? Ms. Rowe and Mr. Stevens, welcome to the Assembly. Let us continue. Minister Some Members: Agreed. Kanayuk already gave her opening comments yesterday and the standing Bill 13 – Appropriation (Operations & committee’s opening comments were Maintenance) Act, 2016-2017 – read. Economic Development and Transportation – Consideration in Before we proceed, I would like to Committee remind you that if you have questions, please wait until we get to the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. appropriate page. Are there any general Minister, as you only made your opening comments? There was no show of hands. comments yesterday, I didn’t get a We are on page K-4 and we will start chance to ask you and I’ll now ask if you from there. Does anyone have questions

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1445 or comments on that page? Mr. Rumbolt. The actual details of what we funded Arctic Kingdom for, we do not have that Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. information with us today, but what we Chairman. I have a few questions can do is we can provide that regarding grants and contributions. information to members. Thank you, Mr. There’s a line item for grants and Chairman. contributions, so I’ll take a chance and ask my questions in this particular area. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Before to I return to Mr. Rumbolt, I wish In my opening comments, I spoke about to remind all ministers, even the the importance of providing clear ministers who haven’t appeared before information about the purpose of each of the committee yet, that as part of your the department’s grants and preparations prior to the documentation contributions expenditures as well as the reviews, it would be very advantageous actual results and outcomes, especially to all parties if you brought the relevant when it comes to handing out money to information related to your for-profit businesses. presentations. It would also behoove us if some forethought was given to the I’ll take a company like Arctic Kingdom contents, particularly matters that may for an example. In 2013-14, your raise questions. department provided a total of $219,000 in three separate contributions to the Even when members try to ask questions company. What was the purpose of each on specific line items, the rote answer is contribution? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. always, “We don’t have that information,” and it really breaks down Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. the review process. You are also well Minister Kanayuk. aware that members are very inquisitive about certain matters, particularly Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk regular MLAs. I urge you to be more (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. cognizant of this requirement and it Chairman. I think he’s talking about the applies to every minister here and those (interpretation ends) Strategic who will appear before us as witnesses. Investments Program. (interpretation) Again, this is just a recommendation. I’ll refer that to my Deputy Minister, Mr. Rumbolt. Ms. Rowe, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Ms. Rowe. Chairman. I realize that they will have to get back to me with the information, but Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will continue my questions in this In 2013, we funded Arctic Kingdom particular area. I chose Arctic Kingdom under our Strategic Investments because they are a for-profit Program. The Strategic Investments organization. My next question is: how Program has two streams to it, one for does your department evaluate or not-for-profit businesses and one for measure the results of the spending that actual businesses. That’s called the you provide to for-profit organizations? Nunavut Economic Investment Fund. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman (interpretation) Thank you. may not have the information from Ms. Kanayuk. 2013-14. I’m trying to use Arctic Kingdom as an example because they’re Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, a for-profit company that received quite Mr. Chairman. Just for the member’s the substantial amount of money from information, Arctic Kingdom is from the the department. I will continue to ask fiscal year 2012-13. We can’t be these kinds of questions and hopefully, bringing everything to our table all the when they do come back to us, we will time, but we would be pleased to provide have clear information on how the what we can to members when asked. money is spent. I’ll ask my deputy minister to answer his question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again with Arctic Kingdom, did the money that was provided to them create Chairman: Ms. Rowe any full-time or part-time jobs for Nunavut residents, with the money that Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. they received from this government? For our Strategic Investments Program, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. before we fund the clients or an applicant, we have an assessment Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. process. In the contribution agreement, if Minister Kanayuk. a project is approved, it outlines the outcomes we’re expecting. What we do Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, is the payments to the clients are spread Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for out. We have the first payment on the that question. The program that we’re initial signing of an agreement, and then discussing allows us to support strategic we do not release the second payment businesses and economic development until we’ve got the accounting and the projects proposed by businesses as well activity reports from that client. as not-for-profit organizations and municipalities, so there are two streams. First of all, we’re approving a project where we have already stated what the The funding Schedule A, which is for expected outcomes are of this project, Nunavut equity investment funds, this and then before we release the final fund provides the maximum equity payment, we go through the reports that contribution of $250,000 to larger they give us to make sure they have done Nunavut business ventures in strategic what they were supposed to do with that sectors and where businesses have money. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. export potential.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, For the other one, Schedule B, which my Ms. Rowe. I would like to remind the deputy minister explained, Nunavut members that if you have questions, Economic Foundations Fund, this please raise your hand so that we can provides support to a maximum of write your name down. Mr. Rumbolt $50,000 to organizations and municipalities to carry out activities that Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. improve the abilities of Nunavummiut to Chairman. I appreciate the fact that they participate in Nunavut’s economy.

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For his latter question, Mr. Chairman, will provide the response because I don’t we can get back to all members. Thank have that information right now. Thank you. you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, We shall expect that information. Mr. Madam Minister. We will expect that Rumbolt. then. Ms. Angnakak.

Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you and Chairman. Like I said, I know she didn’t welcome. In your business plan, page have the information before and I still 191, it talks about the NNI Policy and have questions regarding this particular creating a new NNI Policy. You say that company, so I’m going to read off the the final draft has been completed and is rest of my questions because I know the being reviewed. When will the same answer is going to come for each implementation of it be in place? Thank question, so just to speed up the process you, Mr. Chairman. a little bit. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. My next question was going to be: did Minister Kanayuk. this particular company, Arctic Kingdom, build any physical Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk infrastructure in Nunavut communities (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. with the money that they received from Chairman. We have been dealing with the government? Another question I had this issue in great detail and we have was: can the department explain exactly completed this. how Nunavut benefits from providing this money to Arctic Kingdom? The NNI Secretariat was negotiating with Nunavut Tunngavik and many Another comment I will make is I think other government officials. We will be this particular company is in coming up with a new, amended NNI Mississauga, Ontario. When ED&T is Policy aimed at helping more Inuit and reviewing requests for grants and businesses in Nunavut. We will be contribution funding, does it give taking better advantage of the priority to Nunavut-based companies? (interpretation ends) Nunavut Land I’ll accept any comments that the Claims Agreement. minister may have on those particular questions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation) It’s on this basis that we’re now starting to plan the approval Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, of this policy and we’re expecting to Mr. Rumbolt. Ms. Kanayuk. have it approved some time in the near future. However, even after the NNI Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Policy is approved in the House, we (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. expect its implementation will start in Chairman. Yes, we’re talking about two the spring of 2017 because we have to fiscal years ago. It’s not from the present make consultations on how the policy time. Mr. Chairman, through you, we was amended. Thank you, Mr.

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Chairman. Conversely, if they didn’t reach the level stated on their application, the original Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, method was to penalize them financially. Minister. Ms. Angnakak. Now, when their commitment to hire Inuit with specified numbers of Ms. Angnakak (interpretation): Thank employees was not fulfilled, the business you, Mr. Chairman. Where are the would be excluded from any future bids changes made? Thank you, Mr. on other projects. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman.

Chairman: Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister. Ms. Angnakak. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Ms. Angnakak (interpretation): Thank Chairman. The proposed amendments you. It is very interesting to hear the are numerous and I’ll cite a few changes to the NNI Policy. Also examples. Some recommendations under regarding the (interpretation ends) NNI consideration will be put forward for Policy, you have a current NNI approval, if they are passed. The usual Contracting Appeals Board. Is that going bid adjustment today goes up to 21 to be changed, and will the board have a percent in the (interpretation ends) bid broader mandate to hear appeals? Thank adjustment formula (interpretation) for you, Mr. Chairman. approved Inuit businesses. We have recommended changing that from 21 Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. percent to 25 percent. Minister Kanayuk.

There are several different changes as Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk well, such as a 5 percent change in the (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. three levels of approved Inuit businesses. Chairman. At this time, the board gets These are sole proprietorships, 100 direction from the government about percent Inuit owned businesses, that can appointees, as well as from Nunavut have their (interpretation ends) bid Tunngavik and business representatives adjustment (interpretation) included. from the (interpretation ends) Baffin chamber of commerce. (interpretation) The second tier of Inuit businesses is Together, we are able to appoint board where Inuit are the majority owners but members. share ownership with other Inuit from Nunavut or elsewhere. If the other In the new system, although I don’t have owners are from Nunavut comprising 51 the briefing notes in front of me, the percent up to 100 percent, this would government can make an appointment to add to their approved adjustments. the board, along with Nunavut Tunngavik. The total number of The third level relates to the members is set at five appointments commitment to hire Inuit or when they from the government and they sit for a have an Inuit employment plan and they period of three years. The (interpretation reach the level they identified. ends) appeals board, (interpretation) as it

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1449 was called in the past, would be renamed Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk as the (interpretation ends) NNI (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Tribunal. (interpretation) Thank you, Chairman. I’m looking for page 188. Mr. Chairman. Perhaps my deputy minister has that information, so I will ask her to respond. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister. Ms. Angnakak. Chairman: Ms. Rowe. Ms. Angnakak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the business plan Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. on page 188, (interpretation ends) it talks What we do is we work with the about initiating “activities to further communities and we work with the support community economic economic development officers. We development initiatives…” Who does work with hamlets. We work with other the department work with on a regular government departments that have basis to achieve that goal? Thank you, offices in the communities. Mr. Chairman. What we try to do, especially with the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. hamlets, is work with them in looking at Minister Kanayuk. their community economic development plan and then try to see how we can Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk assist them with accomplishing their (interpretation): I’m sorry, Mr. goals. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman, I only heard part of her question, so if she could ask that Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, question again. Thank you, Mr. Ms. Rowe. Ms. Angnakak. Chairman. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Ms. Angnakak. Chairman. With regard to community economic development plans, are they Ms. Angnakak (interpretation): Thank all up to date? If a community doesn’t you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) have one, how are they assisted? Is this On page 188 of your business plan, something they do on their own or is this under Priorities (2015-16), you talk something the department will help them about how you work with communities with? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. to “support community economic development initiatives…” I’m Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. wondering exactly who you work with Ms. Kanayuk. within the communities. How do you go about doing that? Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can say that if communities Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. request assistance from (interpretation Minister Kanayuk. ends) Economic Development, (interpretation) we are able to provide support to them. Perhaps my deputy

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1450 minister can respond as to how many an ongoing basis, but there are turnovers. economic development officers there are People quit and we have new people in each community, as I don’t have that coming in all the time. That has been information. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. happening for a very long time now.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. We have the community economic (interpretation ends) Ms. Rowe, do you development officers meet once a year have that information? Go ahead. for a training session. At that time, we have agreements between the hamlet and Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) Economic How up to date the plans are in each Development (interpretation) on how we community definitely varies from one are going to work together on economic community to another. The one problem development in the communities. Thank that we have encountered is there is a you, Mr. Chairman. high turnover of economic development officers, which then leads the plan in Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, different stages. If they do not have a Minister. Ms. Angnakak. plan, we assist them with funding and we also fund their economic Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. development officer. We work with the Chairman. One of the things that have hamlets closely to make sure that their often come up, to everybody’s interest, plan is either up to date or, if it’s not, is when we talk about economic helping them bring the plan up to date. development initiatives at the Thank you, Mr. Chairman. community level, we always want to know how many businesses were created Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, and maintained, did people get jobs, and Ms. Rowe. Ms. Angnakak. how many people came off income support. Is that the kind of information Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. that you would collect through these Chairman. Is that something that the contribution agreements? Thank you, economic development officer would do Mr. Chairman. automatically, to ensure that their plans are up to date? Is the economic Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. development officer’s work plan under Minister Kanayuk. your oversight? Is that something that you look at through a contribution Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk agreement? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My deputy minister handles Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. those agreements, so she can respond to Minister Kanayuk. that, Mr. Chairman.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman: Ms. Rowe. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We work with the community Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. economic development officers who are What we do is, in our contribution hired by the hamlets. They are trained on agreements, we specify reporting

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1451 requirements. Everyone who signs a Thank you, Mr. Chairman. contribution with us is required to provide reporting to us. What we now Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, are just starting to work on is trying to Minister. Ms. Angnakak. combine all the information we gather from all our different programs and Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. through other agencies, for example, Chairman. I just want to come back Community Futures, to try to get again to community economic statistics in place that we can rely on. development plans because you just mentioned it again. Under whose The one thing is that now when someone initiatives do these plans get developed? reports that they have created five jobs, Some don’t and some do. Whose what we’re doing is we’re asking them, responsibility is it? I’ll just leave it at “What were those five jobs? Are they that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. full-time jobs? Are they part-time jobs? Are they seasonal jobs?” We’re getting Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. much better at asking and requiring that Minister Kanayuk. information from people, but we are just getting started at the level of being able Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, to combine all the information together. Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for Thank you, Mr. Chairman. that question. It’s the hamlets’ responsibility. We provide them with Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. $190,000 a year made available to each Ms. Angnakak. community to do those types of work. We don’t go to them and tell them how Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. to do their work; they have to initiate Chairman. Once you have all that that process themselves. Thank you, Mr. information, how will you use that Itsivautaaq. information? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister. Ms. Angnakak. Madam Minister. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Chairman. I think it’s an important Mr. Chairman. First of all, we would use component for future economic that information to ensure the development initiatives and perhaps it municipalities are meeting the objectives should be a discussion once the that were in the agreement, some of economic development officers meet which are the community economic because I know they meet once a year. development plans and strengthening, supporting the participation of Nunavut Just one more question in this area. One communities in economic development thing that’s always lacking is capacity. opportunities and initiatives, and For example, when somebody wants to supporting the ability of the start a job, who is going to write the municipalities to leverage other funding. business plan is a challenge at the community level. How do you address

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1452 that? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 189 of your business plan. I note with interest that you’re working with Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. “communities and other stakeholders to Minister Kanayuk. assess potential for alternative energy systems in Nunavut.” The status that you Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk claim is that “The department is working (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. with the Nunavut Housing Corporation Chairman. I would like my deputy to determine the feasibility of solar hot minister to respond to that through you, water systems…” Has this assessment Mr. Chairman. been completed? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Ms. Rowe. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister Kanayuk. What we do is small businesses that are looking to get a business plan done in a Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk community can apply for funding (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. through either our Small Business Chairman. That has not been completed Support Program or they can apply to to date. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. the Baffin Business Development Centre to seek funding in order to hire someone Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. to do their business plan. Ms. Angnakak.

We also provide some tools to them if Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. they are interested in trying to write the Chairman. Can the minister tell us if she plan themselves, in which case there is expects this to maybe start as a pilot information available online which is project in some communities? Thank basically how to write a business plan. you, Mr. Chairman. It’s already set up for them, so they basically just have to fill in the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. information. Minister Kanayuk.

Now, it might not be at the same level as Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk a professional business plan that is (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. written, but at the same time, you get the Chairman. I did not seem audible for a business much more involved in what bit. they are setting out to do instead of having someone else write things for With respect to that, in 2015-16, the them. There is a benefit to both. Thank (interpretation ends) Energy Secretariat you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation) held discussions with various Nunavut government Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, departments, including the Nunavut Ms. Rowe. Ms. Angnakak. Housing Corporation, to initiate the review of the solar hot water, perhaps to Ms. Angnakak: Thank you. I’m going create electricity in future buildings. We to go on to a different area here, page imagine the study will cost about $7,000

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1453 and that is the purpose. To date, the We also took the opportunity to visit study is still in its infancy as discussions private homes to conduct a thermal are still ongoing. Thank you, Mr. imaging test designed to spot leaks and Chairman. drafts, such as via their doors or windows. We used monies from this Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, fund to conduct these tests. Thank you, Minister. Ms. Angnakak. Mr. Chairman.

Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman. That’s very interesting. I look Minister. Ms. Angnakak. forward to finding out more about that. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Under the same department, what other Chairman. It has been pointed out to me alternative energy things are you looking on K-7 under the Energy Options at for the future? Maybe to give an Working Group that there’s actually no example, I read with interest in a country budget whatsoever. That doesn’t look where they were using all their garbage very promising. Can the minister tell us to produce energy and that they were why there’s no money put towards that buying other countries’ garbage. Is that area? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. something along those lines or are we working towards other alternative energy Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. systems in Nunavut maybe in other Minister Kanayuk. areas? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman: Thank you, Ms. Angnakak. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. That was Norway that is buying all the Chairman. I will refer that question to garbage. Madam Minister. my deputy minister. Thank you.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Chairman: Ms. Rowe. Itsivautaaq. (interpretation) I also thank my colleague for that question. At this Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. current time, the (interpretation ends) Our compensation and benefits is the Energy Secretariat (interpretation) is up largest item for the Energy Secretariat. and running, but we currently lack staff We also have $50,000 that gets paid to and have advertised positions to remedy the Arctic Energy Alliance through our that. However, as it stands now, we are contract services. Thank you, Mr. understaffed. Chairman.

Nonetheless, every year, we have paid Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, $50,000 in membership fees to the Ms. Rowe. Ms. Angnakak. (interpretation ends) Arctic Energy Alliance. (interpretation) In conjunction Ms. Angnakak: Thank you. I take it that with that group, we are studying energy they don’t go to meetings or anything. conservation initiatives that we have They would just stay here because produced as well in Iqaluit, Rankin Inlet, there’s no travel budget, or is that part of Arviat, and Cambridge Bay. the travel budget of your other staff

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1454 members as well? Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. Ms. Angnakak.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you. It probably Minister Kanayuk. just adds to the list of things I don’t understand about the government. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. They’re talking about energy efficiency Chairman. I would like my deputy and alternative energy sources, and then minister to respond to that question. QEC is doing that too. Why aren’t you Thank you. guys working together? How do you see yourselves working together, if you’re Chairman: Ms. Rowe. not now, and what would you like to see? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The only travel cost that the Energy Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Secretariat would have would just be Minister Kanayuk. travelling with the minister to attend federal/provincial/territorial energy Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk meetings. Those costs are covered in our (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. travel for corporate management. Thank Chairman. We do have a very good you, Mr. Chairman. working relationship with the Qulliq Energy Corporation. For example, we Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. worked closely with them when they Ms. Angnakak. were putting in a (interpretation ends) solar system (interpretation) for their Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. building. Chairman. When we talk about alternative energy systems in Nunavut, it Regarding the dam to generate makes me think of the dam project. Is electricity, we have a very close working this department part of it? relationship to find and develop cheaper energy once it has been built. We work >>Laughter closely as we look at what may not seem too visible and slightly different things. Is this secretariat part of that work? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister. Ms. Angnakak. Minister Kanayuk. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman. In keeping with alternative (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. energy systems, in your business plan, Chairman. This is the responsibility of you talk about the 2015 Oil and Gas the Qulliq Energy Corporation. Thank Summit where leadership was provided you, Mr. Chairman. to develop stakeholder consensus on a proposed strategic environmental

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1455 assessment where you wanted to address >>Committee recessed at 11:42 and petroleum exploration and development. resumed at 13:29

Over the years, I have always heard that Chairman (interpretation): Good it’s just too expensive to do that kind of afternoon, my colleagues and work in the Arctic. Is that the Nunavummiut. Welcome to your determination of your department as committee once again. well and, if so, why are we working in this area still? Thank you, Mr. We will continue where we left off. I Chairman. would just like to remind you as we proceed that we are on page K-4. I’ll just Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. follow my list of names and we will Ms. Kanayuk. begin with Mr. Joanasie.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. you, Mr. Chairman. Good afternoon, Chairman. Thank you for that question. Minister Ell-Kanayuk, your officials, This is something that is very useful. and Nunavummiut who are listening to The Nunavut government had a meeting the proceedings. in January 2015 to talk about petroleum exploration and how we can rely on that Yesterday, in your opening comments, in the future. The report will be tabled in you stated that there’s $292,000 that you the House and we will provide a copy to will be setting aside to be used for all the individuals that attended the country food distribution. Is the meeting. We’ve had meetings with $292,000 for only one PY? That’s my companies, but it is in the planning first question, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. phase. There still has to be many studies done. We all know that there is seismic Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. exploration in the eastern part of the Minister Kanayuk. Arctic. We can’t talk about that because it’s in the courts. Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you. Let me look for the information. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister. Ms. Angnakak. It would be for one PY. I believe his question was how much we would set Ms. Angnakak: I’ll leave it there for aside for that one PY. This money is for now. the Country Food Distribution Program in Nunavut. I saw it in here, but I can’t Chairman (interpretation): Before we find it at this time. Perhaps my deputy proceed, it is now almost lunchtime, so minister can respond to that question. we will take a break and resume at 1:30 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. this afternoon. We will take a lunch break at this time. Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. The question was: is the $292,000 for one PY? I believe that was Mr.

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Joanasie’s question. Minister Kanayuk. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman: Ms. Rowe. (interpretation): Thank you. This $292,000 would go to the department, Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. not just for salary and benefits, but also Can you repeat the question? for travel. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Can you Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, repeat your question, Mr. Joanasie? Madam Minister. Do we understand that it would be for salary and benefits, as Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank well as the office? You are agreeing with you. In your opening comments, you me, so I understand that correctly. Mr. indicated that $292,000 would be set Joanasie. aside or it’s re-profiling funding in the amount of $292,000 to create a PY. Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Could you give a break down of how you, Mr. Chairman. Would this much will be used for salary and benefits individual be travelling to each of the for this person and how much is set aside Nunavut communities over the year? for travel purposes? That’s what I’m Thank you, Mr. Chairman. trying to find out. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Yes, part of it would be Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk for travel. I don’t have the information (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. on whether this individual will be going Chairman. The detailed breakdown of to all Nunavut communities. Thank you, the $292,000 is not in my briefing note, Mr. Chairman. so I will refer it to my deputy minister. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister. Mr. Joanasie. Chairman: Ms. Rowe.

Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. you, Mr. Chairman. Do you have a We don’t have the exact details of the breakdown of the $292,000? Can we breakdown, but I can tell you that what have a breakdown of the salary, benefits, is happening with the program is that we and travel? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. have a full-time position now that will support the country food program. With Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. the remaining amount of money, that Minister Kanayuk. money will be used for the country food person, the employee to be able to travel Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk to communities to assist communities in (interpretation): Perhaps my deputy preparing applications for the program minister can respond to that question. for community freezers. We want to

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1457 make sure that all the money is used in a community freezers. However, the fund given year and so this will support that hasn’t been used completely. We wanted initiative. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. to change the amounts based on the feedback from the communities that Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. once they had the freezers, there were no Mr. Joanasie. funds for maintenance.

Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank To ensure that fund is utilized further, as you, Mr. Chairman. That is a little well as to see if communities can use disconcerting to me, especially if the that funding, we decided to conduct a salary is that high. If I may, I would comprehensive review. It was decided propose a breakdown in this manner: that one employee responsible for this $200,000 for salary and benefits and program would suffice and that position $92,000 for travel purposes. That still would liaise with the communities on the seems rather extravagant for a single program and eligible projects. That is employee. why it is now set up that way. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can you provide a more detailed breakdown? As an example, I imagine it Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, hasn’t been planned out properly, Minister. Mr. Joanasie. although I know that changes are forthcoming for the job description for Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank the country food position. Nonetheless, you, Mr. Chairman. Where would this this is a large amount just for one position be located? Thank you, Mr. position’s travel budget. I wonder: is the Chairman. salary range set for this position? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman. The position would be based (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. here in Iqaluit. Thank you. Chairman. The actual salary will not be that high for this position, but as we all Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, know, travel within Nunavut is Minister. Mr. Joanasie. extraordinarily expensive when touring communities. It seems plausible that the Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank travel budget would most likely be spent you. Why can’t it be located in Baker entirely. It includes travel as well as Lake? Why did you choose Iqaluit? Is meetings within communities. that the only place with adequate space or did you not bother to consider any If members recall, in the 2014-15 fiscal smaller communities where employment year, an amount of $254,000 was opportunities are hard to find? Did you approved for this country food fund and not consider smaller communities in the majority of funds were used for

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1458 your deliberations? Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman. Mr. Joanasie. Minister Kanayuk, I know and I do realize that we’re going to be Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, going to transportation, but I’ll leave it at Mr. Joanasie. Or even Pond Inlet. your discretion whether or not you want Minister Kanayuk. to answer this question now. Minister Kanayuk. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman. At this time, we cannot (interpretation): Thank you. Sometimes I respond to that question. Perhaps we can can’t see the little light that goes on in use your intermediary role to submit the front of me, Mr. Chairman. response later on. Neither of us was here when that decision was made or rather, I do recall the member asking questions my deputy minister was not present for on the Iqaluit terminal. Their Inuit this decision. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. employment rate is set out in an agreement and their obligation is 18.09 Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. percent for Inuit employment. They are a For my own understanding, are you little over what they agreed to. Thank informing the committee that after your you, Mr. Chairman. research into this matter, you will submit the response via the Chairman? Is that Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, what I understood your response to be? Minister. Mr. Joanasie.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank (interpretation): Yes, you understood you, Mr. Chairman. I also thank the correctly. minister for responding to my question. In your business plan for 2016-19, it is Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. on page 189 and that’s why I asked that We will look forward to that question. It also indicates on the third information. Mr. Joanasie. bullet that the contractor has submitted the monthly monitoring reports. Will Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank those reports be tabled in the House? you, Mr. Chairman. I have asked this Thank you, Mr. Chairman. question on a number of occasions. On March 10 last year, I asked the same Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. question in the House about the Iqaluit Minister Kanayuk. airport. We know that it is a contract that was awarded and there is a clause in Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk there where there has to be a certain (interpretation): We have a coordinator percentage of Inuit workers. Could you working on this at this time. However, give us an update on the Iqaluit terminal it’s not going to be a monthly report; it’s and what the Inuit employment going to be an annual report. Thank you, percentage is and so on? Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. Chairman.

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Management. It’s contained in there and Madam Minister. Mr. Joanasie. it’s not written separately. I hope that clarifies the question. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Chairman. you, Mr. Chairman. We look forward to seeing a copy of that report. It indicates Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. here that the contractors are, I think, Mr. Qirngnuq. audited on an annual basis and that there will be one due in April. Is it possible for Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank your department to produce those reports you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it’s clear now. and table them in the House? That’s my My second question is still on page 187, question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. fifth paragraph. I would like information on Sustainable Development. Is that for Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. land surveys or is it for airports? I would Minister Kanayuk. like clarification on that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. Yes. Thank you. Minister Kanayuk.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk As a reminder, we are on K-4. Following (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. my list of names, Mr. Qirngnuq. Chairman. Under Sustainable Development is “the GN’s participation Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank in processes mandated by the Nunavut you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask Land Claims Agreement for the minister for more information on environmental assessment, land use page 186 of the business plan. We’re on planning and general monitoring.” page K-4 and on pages 186 to 187 Through discussions, they review where regarding the Directorate, I would like they stand and how they can move more information on the Energy forward. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretariat. It’s not included in the budget, but they have set aside Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, $697,000. Can the minister give us more Minister. Mr. Qirngnuq. information on what this $697,000 will be used for? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is the money Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. divided by the hamlets for their use? Madam Kanayuk. That’s my question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. On page 187 of the business Minister Kanayuk. plan, he’s talking about the Energy Secretariat. It is identified as $697,000, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk but we’re on K-4 under Corporate (interpretation): Thank you, Mr.

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Chairman. This is more towards the one community annually, we never hear meetings of the assessors on where about it when they travel. Do they things stand today. They cooperate on actually go to the communities? I’m many things. They’ve had negotiations asking that for clarification. Thank you, with many people from the government, Mr. Chairman. Inuit, the regional Inuit associations, the federal government, and other people Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. involved in the planning and regulatory Minister Kanayuk. activities. They do that type of work. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman. They don’t travel so much to Minister. Mr. Qirngnuq. the communities, but they would go to a community if they were holding a Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank meeting there. Thank you, Mr. you, Mr. Chairman. Within the year, Chairman. how many times do they travel to the communities to identify land? That’s my Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Qirngnuq.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank Minister Ell-Kanayuk. you, Mr. Chairman. I have a different question. On page 187 under training Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk and development, it was mentioned this (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. morning. With respect to the training Chairman. I would like my deputy program, do they train the development minister to clarify that. Thank you, Mr. officers in the communities? That’s my Chairman. question and if you don’t understand me, I can elaborate. Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Ms. Rowe. Chairman.

Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. The people who are employed in this Minister Kanayuk. division work on environmental assessments. It’s not that they’re Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk travelling to communities. They are (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. actually attending meetings, but also Chairman. I also thank him for that reviewing information that comes into question. For the community economic the department. Thank you, Mr. development officers, in the 2016-17 Chairman. training program, Economic Development contributed $50,000. The Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, community economic development Ms. Rowe. Mr. Qirngnuq. officers from the hamlets travel once a year for training to a community and Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank that’s how the money is spent. you, Mr. Chairman. Whether they go to

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To further clarify, the $50,000 is only use to answer the question. If there was for that one training program. The going to be hydro development in operating funding is over that amount. Iqaluit, for example, it would be targeted Thank you, Mr. Chairman. not just for Iqaluit. I think they would look into involving nearby communities, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, but that would involve additional Minister. Mr. Qirngnuq. spending. If the Qulliq Energy Corporation was planning a project like Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank that, they would have more to speak you, Mr. Chairman. Is it divided by the about it. We are more into saving on communities or used only for one energy consumption, although hydro community? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. development plays a part, as it would bring a reduction in energy costs. We Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. would be working with them on that Minister Kanayuk. basis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, (interpretation): Thank you. I’m sorry I Minister. Mr. Akoak. wasn’t clear, Mr. Chairman. The expense in 2016-17 of $50,000 is for Mr. Akoak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. training for all communities. It’s only for Good afternoon, Minister. I just have the economic development officers one question. It’s on 187 and it was getting together when their training touched on a bit by Ms. Angnakak. workshop is being planned. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The NNI Secretariat is responsible for the facilitation, coordination, and Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. implementation. In this area, it talked Mr. Qirngnuq. about penalizing companies that didn’t hire enough people or got rid of some Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank people. I’m just wondering: how severe you, Mr. Chairman. Moving on, this of a penalty do they get? Would it be big question was asked earlier, but I need enough to deter them from saying, “We clarification on hydro development. will just pay the fine and get other What kind of hydro development is it? Is people to come in”? That’s my question. it within the communities or outside the Thank you, Mr. Chairman. communities? That’s my question. Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you. My deputy Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk minister will respond to that. Thank you, (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. Chairman. The work being done by the Qulliq Energy Corporation is an Chairman: Ms. Rowe. example that my cabinet colleague can

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Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. respect to the assistance provided by the One of the proposed changes in the NNI (interpretation ends) Nunavut Policy is making it so that penalties will Development Corporation, be of such significance that it will deter (interpretation) with several subsidiary companies from doing that. Over the companies, it has resulted in the creation years, they have been seeing situations of quite a number of jobs, contributions where people’s bids are adjusted for that to our economy, and their sustained penalty in case they have to take it, growth benefits Nunavummiut. As an which then doesn’t serve the example, they assist people in the Government of Nunavut well. carving industry, the fishing industry, commercial harvesting, tourism, as well What they’re looking at now are as foodstuffs they sell. They provide different types of penalties that are being assistance in these sectors. proposed. If that was the case that there is a penalty, it will be something other With regard to the actual amounts, this than financial. Overall, maybe let’s say isn’t the first time the creation of jobs as an example, they might not be able to has been discussed and whether bid on a contract the following year. Of positions have been created. We met course, these are still all just proposed with the (interpretation ends) Nunavut because they’re not approved yet. Thank Development Corporation you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation) on future positions, how to identify future jobs for projects they Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, may contemplate, and if there is any way Ms. Rowe. Mr. Okalik. to increase these numbers as their company grows. This has been under Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, discussion for quite a while now. Thank Mr. Chairman. Good afternoon. The first you, Mr. Chairman. question I want to ask is on K-4. The (interpretation ends) Nunavut Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Development Corporation, Minister. Mr. Okalik. (interpretation) to my knowledge, provides many benefits to the Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, communities, but it seems that the bigger Mr. Chairman. For example, in communities benefit the most. Can that Qikiqtarjuaq, they do clam digging. If be looked into? NDC creates many new they could provide more support, I know jobs and we would want to benefit the it could create more jobs at the local smaller communities so that they are level, especially in the smaller provided more jobs. Is that being communities where there are reviewed? That’s my first question. opportunities. If they can do more Thank you, Mr. Chairman. testing and provide more support in this area, I know that they can find more Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. economic opportunities in the smaller Minister Kanayuk. opportunities. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Chairman. (interpretation) With Minister Kanayuk.

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Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk what the funds are used for. Thank you, (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. Chairman. The (interpretation ends) Nunavut Development Corporation Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation) has, and I reiterate, 127 Minister Kanayuk. permanent employees currently in these sectors: fisheries, carving, handicrafts, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk and food processing. The manager, (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Darren Nichols, obviously would be Chairman. This gallery is still a focal happy to hear about more opportunities point of sales, many carvings are down to take on. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. there, and several projects are still undertaken at the facility. Nonetheless, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, maybe my deputy minister can explain Minister. Mr. Okalik. that office in greater detail. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, in looking at the Chairman: Ms. Rowe. figures, it is fairly easy to realize the breadth of support they provide. There is Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. this other line item in here referring to is a sales division for NDC and the Toronto [fair] event that is supported so NDC markets Inuit sculptures, crafts, with $200,000. What is the status of that sewn goods, and jewellery through its contribution? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. sales office in Toronto. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Okalik. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman. I’ll have my deputy minister Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) respond to the question through you, Mr. There are Internet and those Chairman. Thank you. technologies that you can use for the sale of those things, I think. Has anybody Chairman: Ms. Rowe. thought of maybe using that money for a Nunavut community instead and using Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. online technology to promote Nunavut Yes, NDC is still providing that funding. products? (interpretation) Thank you, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Ms. Rowe. Mr. Okalik Minister Kanayuk.

Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Mr. Chairman. At this time, I would like (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. to ask if they can elaborate further on Chairman. We agree with the member.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. leadership has to implement projects and manage the funding for their Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. subsidiaries, legal requirements, and Mr. Okalik. operational items, such as their employees. This is how it is written. Mr. Paul Okalik (interpretation): I’m very pleased that they agree with me, so As per our Premier’s past statements I’m satisfied now. Thank you. about the Sivumut Abluqta Mandate, the document speaks to many guiding Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. principles, such as Inuit societal values Mr. Shooyook. like Tunngasainiq amongst others, but they are in that document that we have to Mr. Shooyook (interpretation): Are we include for any draft legislation or still on K-4? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. policies within our departmental I also would like to welcome the operations. Further, it speaks to hiring minister and her officials at the witness more Inuit employees within that table. mandate.

I have a question on Corporate At this time, most of the employees in Management, which I am at a loss to the various divisions are Inuit within our understand. It states that the government department, as that is our goal and is working on training future leaders by directive that we use. Thank you, Mr. implementing the priorities listed in Chairman. Sivumut Abluqta for manager and director level positions. It also talks Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, about incorporating Inuit traditional Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. practices and societal values through hiring Inuit employees. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the business plan, page Can you elucidate further on exactly 187, I’m not sure if this was asked, but which Inuit traditional practices are under Business Development, the contemplated by this language used amount has remained steadily the same. here? Can you clarify that for me? I’m not overly concerned about the Thank you, Mr. Chairman. amount, but my question here is for people who are starting up a small Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. business. On that last sentence there, it Minister Kanayuk. indicates financial support. For any individual who is starting up a small Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk business, how long is the financial (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. support aspect? Is that accounting Chairman. The language as written on provided to the individual who is starting that page is specific to that, particularly up a small business or is that just where it speaks about (interpretation financial support to get them up and ends) corporate management. running? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation) For example, the business development corporation

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. colleagues had asked about this $50,000, Minister Kanayuk. which is also covering training for economic development officers or Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk municipal community economic (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. development officers. Would you not see Chairman. Economic development is these two go hand and hand and why are aimed at the start-up of new private there two separate budget lines? Thank businesses. It’s also targeted for you, Mr. Chairman. operational improvement of businesses. The department works with other entities Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. that provide large sums of money for Minister Kanayuk. employment purposes in Nunavut. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, that question. The Nunavut Economic Madam Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. Developers Association is a territorial organization representing community Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. economic development officers. The Chairman. When we look at that department provides $225,000 in core particular budget line under Business funding annually to the Nunavut Development, which is available to Economic Developers Association to people within our territory, does that assist them with their operational cost. money or that budget line get exhausted The $50,000 to NEDA is to support year by year? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. regional training workshops and for the delivery of training courses to the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. community economic development Minister Kanayuk. officers during the fiscal year 2015-16. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman. At this time, the staff is set up Madam Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. that way. We have not changed the number; it remains status quo. Thank Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. I thank the minister for the response. When we look at regional Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, training, seeing that it’s only $50,000, Madam Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. even though $50,000 could be a substantial amount, and when we look at Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. economic development officers within Chairman. Moving along on that same Nunavut and if there’s one in each page again, when I look at the Nunavut community for training so that we can Economic Developers Association, the have certified EDOs, is the department last sentence is referring to coordinating satisfied with that amount? Thank you, “training and certification for Mr. Chairman. community economic development officers.” Right beneath it, one of my

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister Kanayuk. Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak, are you done? Oh, I’m sorry. Ms. Rowe. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. that question. NEDA is developing a There is an office space in Iqaluit with Nunavut economic development one employee. Thank you, Mr. organization certification program. This Chairman. project was made possible by using $20,000 of the CEDO training fund and Chairman: Thank you, Ms. Rowe. Mr. obtaining a contribution of $125,000 Mikkungwak. from the SIP program. They’re able to access extra money, if required and if Mr. Mikkungwak: Does that one approved. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. employee visit remote communities or do they just communicate by… ? In this Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, case, I’m assuming they would Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. communicate by Internet or computer system. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Onto page 188 of the Chairman: You might think, eh? business plan, the Nunavut Broadband Development Corporation receives core >>Laughter funding. Where is that presently located? Is that in various communities or is that (interpretation) Thank you. Minister centrally located? Thank you, Mr. Kanayuk. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Chairman. They don’t have much Minister Kanayuk. travel. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Nunavut Broadband Minister. I’ll again recognize Mr. Development Corporation advocates for Okalik. the delivery of affordable public access to reliable high-speed Internet services Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, in all the Nunavut communities. I’m not Mr. Chairman. I apologize that I didn’t sure if they actually have an office, but even see one of the items I wanted to they do have a board and they do get query about, but I had previously asked together to discuss that. the minister about this matter during question period about country food. In terms of office and staffing, I’ll ask my DM to answer that question. Thank I enjoy the fact that country food is you, Mr. Chairman. included in this section. In perusing your business plan, particularly page 193 of the English version, there is a section stating that more effort will be put

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1467 towards obtaining country food and that to many Inuit who prefer to go hunting. they would study more hunter support This can be a perfect career for Inuit programs. I would first like to know hunters who love to be on the land. what is entailed in this planning exercise. That’s what I would first like to I know for a fact that in , they know. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. offer hunter support programs and they use the funds to provide country food for Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. their communities. The harvests are Minister Kanayuk. gathered and distributed to residents who otherwise would not have country food, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk such as handicapped people and (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. widows/widowers. Chairman. (interpretation ends) An internal study estimated that the value of That is what I had envisioned occurring country food, if it were to be replaced, in Nunavut, especially for our smaller would be $32 million in a year, just for communities that lack employment country food, if we ever had to replace opportunities that could use this avenue our country food. This is a very to employ hunters. This ought not to be important program. just a hunting trip assistance fund, but assistance for all the equipment required The Country Food Distribution Program to provide country food. It seems has been reformed to better fit the needs plausible to search for more ways to do of the communities and there has been a so. I would like to know if the set-up in greater use of the program to date as a Northern Quebec can be researched. result. We have simplified the schedules Thank you, Mr. Chairman. for hamlets and HTOs and the necessary supports that are required for community Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. freezer projects. The old program was Minister Kanayuk. under-spent, as I mentioned earlier this week. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. We are still working to improve the Chairman. What he’s saying is true. We viability of the harvest economy and we would like the money to be used more in have been involved with Family the communities and that’s what we’re Services to date to do more of that. trying to do. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister. Mr. Okalik. Minister. Mr. Okalik. Mr. Okalik (interpretation): If you’re Mr. Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, going to be reviewing this again, then I Mr. Chairman. I also thank the minister. will just totally support your efforts. The opportunity for growth is intriguing Thank you, Mr. Chairman. and seems appropriate for further study. It is such that we all can’t just be Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. employees in our case, and this applies We are on Economic Development and

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Transportation. Branch Summary. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Corporate Management. Total Minister. Mr. Rumbolt. Operations and Maintenance, to be Voted. $12,026,000. Do you agree? Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Earlier again when I was Some Members: Agreed. questioning, I specifically mentioned a company’s name about my questioning Chairman (interpretation): Let’s move and this time I want to keep it more on to page K-5. Mr. Rumbolt. general. I’m just wondering what types of proposals from for-profit businesses Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. does ED&T approve. Do you look at Chairman. I just have a few more whether the company creates jobs in questions along the same lines I was Nunavut or whether they build questioning earlier. I’ll start off by going infrastructure in the territory or even back to my opening comments where I other factors that you consider? Thank talked about your policy that stated, “the you, Mr. Chairman. Minister is accountable for the overall program funding and results, and will Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. table annually in the Legislative Minister Kanayuk. Assembly, or otherwise make available to the public, a summary of Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk contributions detailing the name of each (interpretation): It is reviewed. For successful applicant, the amount of each example, the Inuit Broadcasting contribution, the type of investment Corporation, in 2015-16, needed being supported, and the community,” (interpretation ends) media equipment but these documents have not been and equipment training (interpretation) tabled in the Legislative Assembly. prior to the grand opening of their facility. Our officials had to be aware of The first question would be: will you the parameters, as they contributed follow your own department’s policy $250,000 in 2015-16. and start tabling detailed annual reports on your spending under such programs This includes many training programs as the Strategic Investments Programs in provided to other organizations, such as the House? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. the (interpretation ends) Kivalliq Mine Training Society, (interpretation) as an Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. example. The training is specific to Minister Kanayuk. career development, so funding was provided for that purpose. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Other types of start-up funding included Chairman. I also thank the member for contributions to tourism outfitters or for asking about this very important matter. proposals to purchase heavy equipment Yes, we have to follow the policies and for their projects that will hire Inuit. I am we try to do so. Thank you, Mr. just using examples of the types of Chairman. proposals that are reviewed under this program, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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Chairman (Mr. Mikkungwak) Chairman (interpretation): Thank you (interpretation): Thank you very much. very much. (interpretation ends) Mr. Rumbolt. Economic Development and Transportation. Corporate Management. Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Following the list of names, Mr. Chairman. When you give out money to Qirngnuq. these particular companies for various reasons, how does your department, over Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank the coming years or the following you, Mr. Chairman. On page 192 of your months or years, measure or evaluate the business plan, if you go down to the results of the money that is given to third paragraph, there is an issue I wish these companies? Thank you, Mr. to ask about. It refers to the Small Chairman. Business Support Program.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you Residents in the smaller communities very much. Minister Ell-Kanayuk. especially rarely see any advertisements for positions or employment Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk opportunities. If a local Inuk wants to (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. create their own job by starting a new Chairman. I would like my deputy business, who do they contact first to minister to respond to that question. start researching relevant information, Thank you. such as manuals or pamphlets to start up a business? Can the communities receive Chairman (interpretation): Thank you this information readily or do you have very much. Ms. Rowe. to personally request the information to start your business? Thank you, Mr. Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. With the contribution agreements that we sign with businesses, they will have Chairman (Mr. Enook)(interpretation): reporting requirements in it. What we Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. will do is we will look at the project when it’s completed to determine if they Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk have met the objectives that were set out (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. for it. For example, if it was training Chairman. Every community has money, we would make sure that the (interpretation ends) economic training has taken place and whether any development officers (interpretation) jobs were created from that training called CEDOs who work for the hamlets money. If we’re funding infrastructure, and can be approached for further we would want to determine that information on starting up a business whatever they said that they were going that they may require. Thank you, Mr. to be building or renovating, those Chairman. renovations have taken place. We don’t release final payments to them until that Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, has taken place. Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Qirngnuq. Chairman.

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Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank plans. That is what is supposed to be you, Mr. Chairman. That is why I asked conducted. the question, as the average Inuk in a smaller community rarely gets the The reason for the regional bodies is that training opportunities offered in the each region has slightly different larger centres, including job practices. They are supposed to handle advertisements, and employment local requests or regional priorities opportunities don’t come by very often within the context of Nunavut-wide and they rarely have a choice to pick a plans. There are supposed to be career. That is why I asked about the representatives on the regional chambers information and if there is any kind of of commerce to provide that video or other viewable materials to information. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. make it easier for Inuit in the smaller communities. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister. Mr. Qirngnuq. The other item I want to move on to is directly underneath and it is listed in the Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank fifth paragraph with a larger pot of funds you, Mr. Chairman. Perhaps I didn’t for private business assistance programs. quite understand the minister’s response. Perhaps I can provide an example. When I was asking about (interpretation ends) a prospective business owner wants to business development centres create or manage a project that can be a (interpretation) listed in the fifth source of revenue within their paragraph. community, do they also need to approach the CEDO or the ED&T Now, if an individual wishes to enquire department for relevant information about information requests, such as a pertaining to their ideas? That is my private entity that may want to expand question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. their business, what types of assistance would be available that they can request Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. or where can they submit their Minister Kanayuk. application for funding assistance? That is my question. Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I am right, I believe he is Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. referring to the (interpretation ends) Minister Kanayuk. regional chambers of commerce (interpretation) and they are also Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk supposed to provide support for smaller (interpretation): Now I understand his community businesses in their region. question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I The regional chambers of commerce are also thank my colleague for that mandated to provide support to private question. The business development businesses and they offer training, skills centres are located in the Kitikmeot, courses, addressing business concerns Kivalliq, and Baffin regions. They are via meetings, and developing regional basic, (interpretation ends) non-profit organizations (interpretation) that

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1471 provide the most support for new Chairman. business start-ups or in assisting existing businesses to expand or receive funding Chairman: Ms. Rowe, before you assistance. It includes business planning speak, for your information, if you need or (interpretation ends) strategic to confer, there is a mute button in front planning (interpretation) or if you just of you. We don’t mind waiting because want to get more information. In the case we know we will get the good answer of an existing business that is concerned after you have conversed. Ms. Rowe. about their future sustainability or if they are in financial difficulty, they can Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. search for information from this body or What that statement means is that the can be linked to places that have the Government of Nunavut considers each information. project on a case-by-case basis and will recommend to the proponents and I believe we have set aside $1,050,000 regulatory agencies that local for the business development centres for communities, stakeholders, and 2015-16 and $300,000 for the Kivalliq governments must be adequately and Kitikmeot and $450,000 for the informed and consulted on projects, and Baffin business development centers. that projects use excepted best practices Thank you, Mr. Chairman. and techniques to minimize potential impacts on the environment. Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Ms. Rowe. Mr. Mikkungwak. Chairman. In your business plan, I’m going to be referring to page 190, Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Priorities (2016-17), second bullet. Your Chairman. To what extent are the department’s draft 2016-19 business municipal councils of impacted plan indicates that one of its priorities communities participating in this for the 2016-17 fiscal year is to initiative? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. “promote a regulatory regime that will attract responsible resource developers.” Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. What specific actions will your Minister Kanayuk. department take to address this priority? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. They are going to be Minister Kanayuk. consulted on how both parties will work together to do the project. Thank you, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Mr. Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The information is not in Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, front of me. My deputy minister has the Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. information, so I’m asking if you will allow her to respond. Thank you, Mr.

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Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess I’ll move on to Chairman. I wholeheartedly understand something else, which is pretty well in that you are, along with the Department line with the two questions earlier that I of Finance, working on a DPA with the just finished off here. current operating mine with Agnico Eagle. Until you guys have reached an When we look at resource development agreement, that will not affect the or, in my case, when I asking about operation of the mine. Thank you, Mr. responsible resource development, as the Chairman. minister is very well aware, there is an operating mine north of my community. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Your department is responsible for Minister Kanayuk. administering the government’s Development Partnership Agreement Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Policy. What is the status of negotiating Mr. Chairman. Yes. Thank you. new development partnership agreements with any mining companies? Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Joanasie.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Minister Kanayuk. you, Mr. Chairman. I would first like to ask the minister about page 192. There’s Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, a community capacity building section. Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for There should be community economic that question. The development development officers because your partnership agreement is a requirement department provides funding to the for the mining company in order to be hamlet councils for that purpose. Is there eligible to participate in the fuel tax one in each community? Thank you, Mr. rebate and this is handled by the Chairman. Department of Finance. The Department of Economic Development and Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Transportation is responsible for Minister Kanayuk. coordinating the negotiation of that agreement. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. As you know, we just have the one Chairman. I also thank my colleague for existing DPA and that is with the Agnico that question. Yes, through an Eagle Meadowbank mine agreement at agreement, all communities have an this time. Moving forward, we are economic development officer. Thank looking to change the way the DPAs are you. structured. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister. Mr. Joanasie. Minister. Mr. Mikkungwak. Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank you. I know you have signed an

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1473 agreement. Are all of these economic wanting to improve themselves. Another development officer positions filled? reason is really the economic Thank you. development officer, although working for the hamlet, it’s one of those positions Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. where they’re really working on their Minister Kanayuk. own and some people prefer not to be in a position like that. Thank you, Mr. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) The Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. community economic development Mr. Joanasie. officers have a high turnover rate. I don’t have the current figures of which Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank communities are staffed and not staffed you, Mr. Chairman. I do know that they at this time, but if the member wishes are working under the hamlet council, in that information, we could get back to my community anyways, and these him. Thank you. positions are usually held by hamlet employees. As a government, have you Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, looked at how you can restructure their Minister. Mr. Joanasie. positions? Of course, most communities have GLOs. I’m not sure how we can Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank improve it so that there is a lower you, Mr. Chairman. I’ll look forward to turnover rate. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. seeing that information. It is something of concern to me when there’s a high Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. turnover of economic development Minister Kanayuk. officers. Why is there a high turnover rate? Does the minister know what the Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk reasons are? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, the workload is quite Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. heavy for these positions and they Minister Kanayuk. largely work on their own, as their work is specific to their community. There are Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk funding agreements with the hamlets in (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. the communities that administer the Chairman. Perhaps my deputy minister workload with a substantial list of duties, can provide a proper response to that primarily focusing on economic question. Thank you. development within their communities.

Chairman: Ms. Rowe. Some of them are quite capable while others require further training, but we Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. would like to see all incumbents be There are many different reasons. A lot strong in offering opportunities to of times, what we see is once someone is develop economic development within trained, they then end up getting a better their communities. That is why we have job offer and we can’t stop people in earmarked additional funds for training,

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1474 including other professional Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank development courses. When they have you. I will offer my support and urge the discussions through training, they department to commit to supporting discuss improvement opportunities and these employees in the communities who other training opportunities. Thank you, work in this field. They do provide Mr. Chairman. valuable development assistance to the community and offer more programming Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, assistance and opportunities to the local Minister. Mr. Joanasie. residents. I would like to see more exposure about their roles to Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Nunavummiut. you, Mr. Chairman. I also thank the minister for her response. Again, I I would like to go back to the question appreciate hearing about these training about country food. I didn’t ask this opportunities, as they are the main question. The fiscal year is almost contacts for economic development and ending and last year, you put aside opportunities for growth to the funding for country food distribution of community. What other assistance $1,868,000. How much of that funding outside of the community or within your has been used? Thank you, Mr. department is available for these Chairman. positions to ensure they provide the services that are outlined as their duties? Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister Kanayuk.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Minister Kanayuk. (interpretation): Just one moment, please. It was right in front of me, so Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk bear with me. (interpretation): Thank you. I’ll refer the question to Ms. Rowe. For 2015-16 expenses, we are expecting an approved budget of $1,868,000. We Chairman: Ms. Rowe. believe $1.2 million will be spent this fiscal year. I hope that’s clear. Thank Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. you, Mr. Chairman. The community economic development officers can also work with our regional Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, staff. In each regional centre, we have Minister. Mr. Joanasie. economic development staff that they can work with to provide them with Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank further assistance. Thank you, Mr. you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the minister Chairman. for the response and it’s understandable. I think they amended their policy. I can’t Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. recall if it was tabled in the House. Mr. Joanasie. Maybe they can refresh my memory. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. minister can clarify that. Thank you, Mr. Minister Kanayuk. Chairman.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Chairman: Ms. Rowe. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The policy is available to the Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. public on the website, but we haven’t Currently, we are working on monitoring tabled it in the House. We amended it in and supporting activities in cultural 2015 for the (interpretation ends) tourism. What we have is we have Country Food Distribution Program. funding available to individuals that they (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. can apply for and we can help them or Chairman. get them started with a business or to get training. What we are trying to do is Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, promote all forms of art across the Minister. Mr. Joanasie. territory. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, you, Mr. Chairman. Perhaps if she tables Ms. Rowe. We are on Branch Summary. it in the House, we can all see it. Thank Economic Development and you, Mr. Chairman. I’m done. Transportation. Economic Development. Total Operations and Maintenance, to be Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. I Voted. $27,659,000. Agreed? think that’s just a comment and I didn’t hear a question. I’ll again recognize Mr. Some Members: Agreed. Mikkungwak. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. As you have just agreed, I would like to Chairman. My one last question is on take a 15-minute break. At this time, we page K-5. Business plan, 195, will break for 15 minutes. Community Tourism & Cultural Industries Program. (interpretation) I see >>Committee recessed at 14:54 and Nunavut Inuktitut singers on the resumed at 15:18 computer, some are youth, and they sound very good. How are you going to Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. make the budget grow for performing We will continue with the review of the arts so that it can be promoted more? main estimates for the Department of Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Economic Development and Transportation. We will go to page K-6. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. We will get started right away. Mr. Minister Kanayuk. Rumbolt.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My questions are going to be Chairman. With respect to the funding related to page 202 of the business plan for (interpretation ends) cultural tourism, and I’ll quote from the business plan (interpretation) perhaps my deputy before I ask my questions.

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One of the department’s priorities for Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. 2015-16 was to “Conduct planning work Chairman. It states in here that you for remediation and removal of secured funding for Sanikiluaq’s decommissioned airport buildings in remediation and removal. Is it your plan Qikiqtarjuaq, Coral Harbour, Nanisivik, then to go no further with the planning Sanikiluaq and Resolute Bay.” Their of this community’s removal of the old status says, “A cost estimate has been airport terminal building until you secure determined for the work required at funding for the other communities? Sanikiluaq.” Cost estimates have not yet Thank you, Mr. Chairman. been established for the other communities. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. One of your priorities for 2016-17 says, “Complete planning work for Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, remediation and removal of Mr. Chairman. Once we have funding, decommissioned airport buildings” in we will do Sanikiluaq. Thank you, Mr. the communities I named before, Chairman. Qikiqtarjuaq, Coral Harbour, Nanisivik, Sanikiluaq, and Resolute Bay. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Rumbolt. I’m wondering if the department can update us today on… . You have secured Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. the funding for Sanikiluaq and not the Chairman. According to your business others. Is it your intent to secure funding plan, it says that you have secured for all the other communities before any funding for Sanikiluaq. When can we work is done? Thank you, Mr. expect planning to commence for the Chairman. removal of the Sanikiluaq old airport terminal building? Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Minister Kanayuk. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank him for the question. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, We don’t have the planning right now. Mr. Chairman. If the member can point To say it in English, (interpretation ends) us to where he’s seeing that there have there are currently no definitive plans in been monies assigned. Thank you, Mr. place at this time. However, the Chairman. department continues to assess options and they will complete planning work as Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. soon as possible. Thank you, Mr. (interpretation ends) Mr. Rumbolt, Chairman. please.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Rumbolt. Chairman. Maybe I read this wrong, but on page 202 of your business, it says,

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“A cost estimate has been determined for Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. the work required...” Okay, I guess I Mr. Rumbolt. misread that. I thought it was that they secured the funding for that particular Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. community. I guess I’ll change it a bit. Chairman. Is it the department’s plan to When do you expect to have the funding secure funding and have a plan in place secured for all the communities? Thank to deal with all the communities at once you, Mr. Chairman. or will you be dealing with each community individually? Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Madam Minister. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Minister Kanayuk. Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for those questions. It’s subject to Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, programming reviews. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. There are four airport Chairman. terminal buildings that need to be decommissioned. It would be for four of Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. those projects, which are Sanikiluaq, Mr. Rumbolt. Qikiqtarjuaq, Coral Harbour, and Resolute Bay. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. What kind of programming review has to be done in order to carry Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. out this work? Thank you, Mr. Mr. Rumbolt. Chairman. Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. Is your plan then to issue, Minister Kanayuk. maybe when the time comes, one RFP or one tender in order to deal with all the Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, airport terminals at the same time or will Mr. Chairman. I’ll have our ADM, Mr. they be done individually for each Stevens, answer that question. Thank community? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman: Mr. Stevens. Minister Kanayuk.

Mr. Stevens: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Basically, we haven’t completed the Mr. Chairman. At this time, we are not studies for the other ATBs. What we are at that stage yet and once we have better going to be doing is probably an knowledge of the company that did omnibus kind of approach to environmental assessments for all four remediation. Maybe I’ll stop there. projects, we will be able to answer that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. of Economic Development and Mr. Alex Sammurtok. Transportation has two (interpretation ends) long-term casual employees Mr. Alexander Sammurtok (interpretation) for the Motor Vehicles (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Division, one in Rankin Inlet and one in Chairman. (interpretation ends) On page Cambridge Bay. They will be 202, Priorities (2016-17), fourth bullet, (interpretation ends) direct appointed “Begin construction of the new Kivalliq (interpretation) if approved. Thank you, Regional Visitors Center, as per Capital Mr. Chairman. Plan.” Can the minister indicate which community it’s going to be built at? Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Mr. Sammurtok. Chairman. Mr. Sammurtok: In your business plan, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. page 209, PYs, 2015-16, 141 PYs, but Minister Kanayuk. for 2016-17, 137. Why are you decreasing the PYs and what accounts Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk for this decrease and in which (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. departments? (interpretation) Thank you, Chairman. It would be built in Rankin Mr. Chairman. Inlet. Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Mr. Sammurtok. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Mr. Sammurtok: In your opening Itsivautaaq. (interpretation) With respect remarks, you indicated that there will be to these positions, this year, the four two new positions for vehicle clerks, one positions are specific to the Iqaluit in Rankin Inlet and one in Cambridge International Airport project. The Bay. (interpretation) At this time, I know contractor has taken on some of the that in Rankin Inlet, there’s a responsibilities of these positions. (interpretation ends) casual worker However, there are other duties left over (interpretation) position being held. that are required under the contract. We (interpretation ends) Would the one in had to hire a manager to administer the Rankin Inlet be put out for competition contract. That is the main reason for that or will the person who is there who position. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. already knows what they’re doing get a direct appointment? (interpretation) Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister. Mr. Mapsalak.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank Minister Kanayuk. you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) The minister (interpretation) should Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk recall that I frequently have asked this (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. question related to access road funding. Chairman. At this time, the Department

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Mr. Chairman, I was diligent in trying to to hear that because there is a lot of increase that amount with the underlying interest for the funding. With that, the reason that this fund is heavily utilized minister and the assistant deputy by my constituency in relation to minister for transportation are aware that economic development opportunities. Coral Harbour, which I represent, has This would allow communities more built an access road quite far from the opportunities to develop tourism community and they have almost destinations and further, it would create reached their destination. It’s a little over opportunities for existing businesses or 30 miles, if not longer. That’s how far fisheries or other sectors. the access road has to be developed. The summer season is quite short. Is there a With that being the case, we were funding cap for each community? Thank initially quite pleased with the increase you, Mr. Chairman. to access road funding. I would first like to ask the minister: last summer, in this Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. fiscal year, did they deplete all the Minister Kanayuk. funding for this line item? That’s my first question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. There is no cap. For example, Minister Kanayuk. the project you referred to in Coral Harbour, the Kopak Hill to Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation ends) Duke of York Bay (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. (interpretation) project is fairly close to Chairman. I would also like to thank the the end of the specified destination. member for asking that question because However, we expect this to continue for access roads are very useful in the another two years prior to reaching that communities. There are access roads to point. I reiterate that there is no hard cap, parks and recreational facilities. If they Mr. Chairman. It will depend on the want to build an access road near the project, the ultimate destination, and the community, it is very useful. number of jobs created, which are reviewed for approval. Thank you, Mr. From our department, in 2015, Chairman. $3,199,000 was requested by 19 communities. All the applicants divided Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. up the funding. They had to reduce the Mr. Mapsalak, are you finished? funding so that it could be utilized in all communities because there is a large Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Yes, I’m uptake of the program, Mr. Chairman. done. Thank you. Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Ms. Angnakak. Mr. Mapsalak. Ms. Angnakak (interpretation): Thank Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) I would like to you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it’s very good ask about the aviation scholarships. How

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1480 many Nunavummiut participated in that to full-time residents of Nunavut and and how was the money used? Thank they have to have a two-year minimum you, Mr. Chairman. residency requirement. They need to pursuing full-time aviation related Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. studies. The studies can be related to Minister Kanayuk. airline or airport operations or management, aircraft maintenance, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, and/or pilot training. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for Chairman. that question. The money is used as a scholarship for students wanting to Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. pursue aviation-related careers in the Ms. Angnakak. north. They can receive up to a $5,000 scholarship. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can the minister tell us then, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. once somebody has been accepted and Ms. Angnakak. he or she attends school in that area, what kind of follow up is done, if any? Ms. Angnakak: Thank you. Can the Do you just give this $5,000 or do you minister tell us how these applicants are have some kind of follow-up? Thank chosen? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Minister Kanayuk.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. We don’t have a formal Chairman. The 2015-16 approved follow-up procedure at this time. Thank applicants for a $5,000 scholarship are: you, Mr. Chairman. Brian Aulajut, Todd Ryan, Ethan Komaksiutiksak, Richard Manitok, and Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Jeremy Maley. Thank you. Ms. Angnakak.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Ms. Angnakak. Chairman. If somebody says that they’re going to this type of school and then Ms. Angnakak: Thank you. Can the they drop out one month later, do you minister tell us how they’re chosen and have any way of knowing that that has what is the criteria? Thank you, Mr. happened? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Minister Kanayuk. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, Chairman. I thank the member for that Mr. Chairman. Scholarships are offered question. We don’t do a follow-up at this

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Stevens: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Angnakak. There was an RFP process and that RFP has resulted in some recommendations. I Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. believe negotiations are still ongoing Chairman. Can the minister commit to with a successful proponent. Thank you, maybe working with her staff that there Mr. Chairman. is a follow-up? Since this is public money, we want to ensure that the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. money is being spent the way that Ms. Angnakak. people say they’re going to. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can the department tell us Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. how many proponents were successful Minister Kanayuk. and they are in negotiations with? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. Yes. Thank you. Minister Kanayuk.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Ms. Angnakak. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for that Ms. Angnakak: Thank you. I would like question. It’s not one of my day-to-day to go to on to something else and that’s duties, so my assistant deputy minister the airport here in Iqaluit. I’m going to will respond to that. Thank you. ask a little bit of a different question. Chairman: Mr. Stevens. A while ago, and I can’t remember when, it could have been last year, I Mr. Stevens: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. think the department put out a call for I don’t have that information available the new airport. They wanted a with me. I will endeavour to get back. restaurant or something like that and Thank you, Mr. Chairman. other things like little stores. Can you tell us the status on that and who was Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. chosen? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Angnakak.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Ms. Kanayuk. Chairman. Can the department tell us how many areas are going to be used for Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you. commercial use then? Thank you, Mr. (interpretation) I will have my Assistant Chairman. Deputy Minister, Mr. Stevens, respond to that. Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk.

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Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Currently where we are with that is, as a Chairman. To date, we don’t have that department, EDT is looking into other information, but we can provide it to you types of devices that can be used to help once we get it. Thank you. individuals board an airplane with dignity. In the actual capital budget of Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. the airport, it was determined there We will be expecting it. Ms. Angnakak. would be no boarding bridges, which are the large bridges like in southern Ms. Angnakak: Thank you. One last airports. question about the airport. We have discussed it many times before and I’m What we’re now looking at is how to not too sure if we got anywhere with it determine if we can fund mobile and I don’t even know what you call it, devices. They’re just like little ramps you know, to get on the plane so that you with wheels that can go up to the plane. don’t have… . If you’ve got mobility It’s good not only for people with issues, you don’t have to go up by a disabilities but also for people with wheelchair or anything like that. I know young children because, when you’re that the department before had said that walking up those steep stairs and you’re that was not going to be included in the carrying bags and your children, that new airport, but every time they come poses quite a bit of danger too. We are before us, we always like to ask if looking into what we can do about the there’s any change in that area. On situation because we would like to see behalf of those who have mobility devices in place at the airport. Thank issues, I’m asking if you have put any you, Mr. Chairman. consideration into that since the last time we talked about it. Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. Moving on, Mr. Qirngnuq.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank Minister Kanayuk. you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question related to page 202, where it is stated Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk that work on the Taloyoak Airport (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. terminal will commence on that date. I Chairman. We are trying to work am quite happy that it is listed in the collaboratively with those who travel via 2016-17 capital items. air transportation to ensure that they are properly served, especially in the What I want to ask about is the materials embarking of handicapped passengers in to construct this building can only arrive the easiest and least intrusive way. via sealift in the summer. Obviously, it Nonetheless, as to the actual status would be prohibitively expensive to today, I will have to defer to my Deputy transport the materials other than Minister, Ms. Rowe, to delve into the through marine transportation. details. Thank you. Upon their arrival to the community, Chairman: Ms. Rowe. will the project be immediately started in

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1483 the community for the airport terminal that question. Yes, we expect that work building? That is my question to the to start this summer. Thank you, Mr. minister. Chairman.

Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you This is specific to capital items, but I for explaining that, Minister. Mr. imagine people expecting this would Qirngnuq. want to hear the update, so Minister Kanayuk, can you respond to his Mr. Qirngnuq (interpretation): Thank request? you, Mr. Chairman. It’s like she read my mind. She answered my next question, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk so I thank the minister. (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Taloyoak terminal My other question is on the 2017-18 project is currently under the design priorities, when the Taloyoak Airport is phase and it was awarded in October supposed to be completed. Will it be 2015. Now the design phase is expected completed in 2018 or 2019, even though to be completed by March 31, 2015. it’s not written there? That’s my Perhaps I will say it in English. question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) The tender for construction is expected to be issued by Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. March 31, 2015. (interpretation) The Minister Kanayuk. contract will be awarded in that year. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. We expect it to be completed You just stated that construction would in 2018. Thank you. start in March… . The RFP would be in March 2015. Have you finished with the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. RFP? Minister Kanayuk. Mr. Akoak.

Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Mr. Akoak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation): I’m sorry. There was a I just have a couple of questions. In your typo here. Thank you for correcting me. business plan on page 202, the bottom It’s March 31, 2016, which is in the very bullet… . We are always wanting to near future. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. keep jobs in our communities and wanting more jobs in our communities. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. This one says, “Review the capacity of To Mr. Qirngnuq’s question, if the the Transportation Policy & Planning material comes in on this summer’s division to determine the optimal sealift, will construction start right away staffing required, ensuring that proper this fall? If you could respond to that oversight is given to the department’s question, Minister Kanayuk. operations in Gjoa Haven and Rankin Inlet.” Can you explain to me what that Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk means? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation): Thank you for asking

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. immediate change.” As of today, what is Minister Kanayuk. the status of this work? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. The Transportation Policy Minister Kanayuk. and Planning Division makes sure that there are enough staff in the Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk communities. We are responsible to (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. ensure there are enough staff. My deputy Chairman. This technology is critically minister can add to my response. Thank important here in Nunavut for you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation) instrument approach procedures. (interpretation) We have Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. been in discussions with NAV Ms. Rowe, would you like to supplement CANADA. We expect this technology to that response? be installed in Pangnirtung, Qikiqtarjuaq, and Kimmirut. Thank you, Ms. Rowe: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman. The Transportation Policy and Planning Division has staff in Iqaluit but also has Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. staff in Gjoa Haven and Rankin Inlet. Mr. Akoak. What we are looking for is reviewing to see if we maybe need more positions in Mr. Akoak: Just one more question. that division. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would there be anything done in the Kitikmeot region? Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Chairman. Mr. Akoak. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Akoak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister Kanayuk. I think we do need more positions in Gjoa Haven, at least one more. I think Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk the lady there was asking for another (interpretation): I’m sorry, but can he person for the last while. Thank you. repeat his question? I didn’t hear it. Thank you. The other one is on page 205, the very bottom bullet. It has to do with GPS Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. systems. Your department’s draft 2016- Mr Akoak, if I understand you, let me 17 business plan indicates that one of its ask the question for you. Will there be priorities is to “Complete the any kind of GPS work done in the identification of community airports Kitikmeot region? That was his question. which would benefit” - I think all the Minister Kanayuk. airports in Nunavut would benefit - “from the installation of GPS systems, Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk and continue to work with Nav Canada (interpretation): I apologize, as I wasn’t and private consultants to implement listening to the floor as I was discussing changes to those airports which require it with my official.

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There are seven communities in Nunavut I would like to make a supplement to the that are identified for installation of this Iqaluit airport terminal and I asked technology. However, we have to questions about it last year on March 10, request funding from NAV CANADA. 2015. I’m sure the minister remembers Three requests have been approved for the questions on this issue. The minister the communities I listed. We expect the indicated that they were in the process of other communities to be approved drafting up the report and it would be eventually. made available on March 10 in the spring sitting. Why haven’t we seen the Nonetheless, the other airstrip equipment report yet? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. requests will require that we submit them for approval. I don’t have the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. information as to their status, but I can Minister Kanayuk. provide it later. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman. Are your questions on the Minister. Before I return to the member, Inuit Employment Plan? We had to get once the information has been received, the information on the Inuit working at can you ensure that you provide it to the the terminal. Is that the question, Mr. Chairman so that we can have the Chairman? information for our review? Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Yes, he’s nodding his head. If you would Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk proceed, Minister Kanayuk. (interpretation): Yes, the other communities where plans have been Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk made to install this equipment include (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Baker Lake, Kugluktuk, and Igloolik. Chairman. Every month, our staff puts Thank you, Mr. Chairman. together information about Inuit working at the airport. They have numerous Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, discussions about Inuit employment to Minister. I don’t think we should have ensure their numbers are adequate, as any further expectations of this indicated previously and as part of the information as it has already been monthly review. As I indicated earlier, provided. Thank you, Minister. Inuit employment was at 18.9 percent at that project, which is higher than was We are on page K-6. Mr. Joanasie. originally intended. The reviews are almost completed and as I said earlier, Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank we will make an annual tabling of the you, Mr. Chairman. I would also like to report to the Legislative Assembly as thank Minister Kanayuk-Ell for the 20- soon as we have completed it. Thank year capital plans and I have made sure you, Mr. Chairman. to do some reading. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Joanasie.

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Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. you, Mr. Chairman. Can the minister tell We will look forward to that. Mr. us how many employees is 18.9 percent? Keyootak. If we look at all the people working at the Iqaluit air terminal and 18.9 percent Mr. Keyootak (interpretation): Thank are Inuit, could the minister elaborate you, Mr. Chairman. As you probably further on that? Thank you, Mr. know, I am reading the business plan in Chairman. Inuktitut and the references to pages is quite divergent from the English pages. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. In the Inuktitut version, it is on page Minister Kanayuk. 217, but I don’t know the corresponding page in the English version. It speaks to Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, two bullets. It states, “Plans to develop a Mr. Chairman. I thank the member for marine facility in Pond Inlet were that question. I can only give him a announced by the Federal Government percentage of Inuit employment at this in June 2015. A business case has been time. The first annual audit of the project completed for the Qikiqtarjuaq facility. company’s Inuit engagement in the The department will continue to lobby construction aspects of the project has the new federal government on the been completed. The audit indicates that remaining harbours.” What is the status AILP, the contractor, met their of that? That is my first question. Thank obligations with the 18.09 percent Inuit you, Mr. Chairman. employment at their site. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Joanasie. Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Chairman. We were very pleased that you, Mr. Chairman. Last year during my the federal government provided funds questioning, they were getting more for Pond Inlet and Iqaluit. They will people employed from outside of Iqaluit. proceed with these two projects and we Is it the same case with the Inuit? Is it at look forward to making an the discretion of the contractor to get announcement in the House if these employees from anywhere in Canada? projects will go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We will be initiating new projects and Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. we are very pleased that we are able to Minister Kanayuk. start them. I also talked to the federal government about looking at future Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk: Thank you, infrastructure projects. The one in Mr. Chairman. I think what we can do is Pangnirtung has been completed, but we put community engagement and Inuit would like to start similar projects in employment in the data that we would Qikiqtarjuaq and Clyde River under the table. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Small Craft Harbours program. We also look forward to initiating that type of

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1487 work in other communities. Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam Minister. We are on Economic Development and Transportation. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Branch Summary. Transportation. Total Madam Minister. Mr. Keyootak. Operations and Maintenance, to be Voted. $29,352,000. Do you agree? Mr. Keyootak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’ll ask another Some Members: Agreed. question on that. Is the small craft harbour for Qikiqtarjuaq expected to be Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. included in the plans for 2015-16? Let’s go back to page K-3. It reads, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Department Summary. Economic Development and Transportation. Detail Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. of Expenditures. Total Operations and Minister Kanayuk. Maintenance, to be Voted. $69,037,000. Do you agree? Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Some Members: Agreed. Chairman. No, it’s not included in the business plan for this year. Thank you, Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Are you agreed that the Department of Economic Development and Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Transportation is concluded? Mr. T. Sammurtok. Some Members: Agreed. Mr. Tom Sammurtok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. further clarification (interpretation ends) Minister Kanayuk, we have concluded on page 202, Priorities (2016-17), third your department. If you have any closing bullet. (interpretation) It states, “Begin remarks, I now give you the floor. upgrading work on the Taloyoak air Minister Kanayuk. terminal building.” (interpretation) Does that mean that they are just going to be Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk upgrading the Taloyoak air terminal (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. building or will they construct a brand- Chairman. I would first like to thank the new air terminal building? Thank you, members for their excellent questions Mr. Chairman. because we obviously have to be well coordinated. Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. Minister Kanayuk. I also thank my staff, my Deputy Minister, Sherri Rowe, and my Assistant Hon. Monica Ell-Kanayuk Deputy Minister, Jim Stevens, and (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Director of Finance Tanya Winmill for Chairman. It’s going to be a new air being here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. terminal. Thank you.

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Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. The college’s total budget for 2016-17 is Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the $45.5 million, which is a $2.4 million minister’s officials out. decrease from the 2015-16 budget. The majority of this decrease is from the We will proceed with the review of reduction in third party funding, Nunavut Arctic College, but while we including the phasing out of federal get the paperwork prepared, we will take funding for the Nunavut Adult Basic a five-minute break. Education Program and the Early Childhood Education Program. >>Committee recessed at 16:06 and resumed at 16:15 Total third party funding is $11.1 million for this fiscal year, down from $15.3 Bill 13 – Appropriation (Operations & million in the previous year. The college Maintenance) Act, 2016-2017 – is actively working to renew and expand Nunavut Arctic College – these funding agreements. Consideration in Committee The contribution from the Government Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. I of Nunavut will be increased to $34.4 would like to call the committee meeting million from $32.6 million. The balance back to order. We will now be dealing of college revenues are from tuition and with Minister Quassa, Minister of other sources of $4.1 million. Nunavut Arctic College. At this time, I would like to ask Minister Quassa, if you Early Childhood Education have any opening comments, you can now proceed. Minister Quassa. Since 2013, Public Health Canada and Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): have invested significant funds that have Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good day, allowed the college to develop and pilot my colleagues. early childhood education programs in Nunavut. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Please note that I will be making my comments in Nunavut is the only jurisdiction in English. Canada that does not have a permanently funded Early Childhood Education (interpretation ends) Thank you, Mr. Program. Research clearly shows that Chairman. Today, I am pleased to quality early childhood programs from present to members Nunavut Arctic infancy to six years of age help a child College’s 2016-19 main estimates and thrive all throughout their life. business plan. With this funding, the college aims to One of the priorities in Sivumut Abluqta graduate 70 students with a Diploma in is self-reliance and optimism through Early Childhood Education and certify education and training, and Nunavut an additional 150 child care workers Arctic College has a key role in through the applied certificate over the advancing this priority. next five years. In doing so, this government is recognizing the

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1489 importance of early childhood education  Supporting labour force training, to prepare children and their parents for development, and employment a successful start in life and school. through strategic alliances with sector partners; Environmental Technology Program  Addressing mental illness, The college is also requesting an addictions, and domestic violence by additional $255,000 to increase the staff recognizing and providing resources of the Environmental Technology for community-based solutions; and Program from two PYs to four. This lastly, would allow for a new instructor position to be created that would be  Working with our partners, renewing staffed through the competitive process and strengthening our efforts towards by an Inuk that has the necessary skills suicide prevention. and expertise to better incorporate Inuktitut and Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit The college is requesting that this budget through the program while also lending be increased by $215,000. This would much-needed assistance with course provide the necessary resources to hire a instruction. program manager and pay for additional contract services to complete the review It is also requested that an additional PY of the program to ensure it meets the be funded for an equipment technician employers’ expectations. that is required to maintain the growing inventory of equipment used during Pan-territorial Funding for Industry course delivery throughout the year, Training including skidoos, boats, motors, and a functional lab. The college is working with the Government of Canada on a long-term, Social Worker Program multi-jurisdictional proposal to continue enhancing the delivery of non-base The college is recommending funded programs such as the Adult Basic investments in the Social Services Education Program. Worker Program so that it can graduate sufficient students to make a material The Pan-territorial Framework for impact on services that are offered to Industry Training currently being clients who need access to social reviewed has been designed to respond services. to existing and emerging industry- specific requirements across the north, The Social Worker Program trains with an emphasis on collaboration and people for employment in a number of capturing efficiencies across the three critical areas, such as social work, territories. probation officers, school counsellors, wellness centre workers, and addictions Makigiaqta Inuit Training Corporation counsellors. In doing so, this initiative supports many of Sivumut Abluqta’s If my colleagues remember, in October objectives, including: during NTI’s annual general meeting,

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Premier Taptuna and President released eight new publications, Towtongie jointly announced the including: formation of Makigiaqta and its incorporation.  Uqauhiitigut Uqauhiliurut, Dictionary of Going forward, we will be actively Utkuhiksalingmiut Inuktitut Postbase working with our partners at NTI to Suffixes; bring unique opportunities for Inuit to have access to post-secondary education  Tukisigiaruti Timittiaringnirmut – and training. The investments from the Health Glossary for Nunavut Makigiaqta Inuit Training Corporation Educators; and will be dedicated to increase significantly the availability of programs  Six publications of the early to focus on building capacity for a childhood education series: Anguit representative workforce in all of The Hunter, Helping Friends, Nanuq Nunavut. This investment is key to and Avinngaq, Northern Lights, Owl attaining our objectives outlined in & Raven, and the Sister & Brother. Article 23 of the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement. The college is currently working on three new publications with various Going Forward authors and editors. This continues to grow as we are actively seeking new In 2016-17, the college will continue to authors and editors to get engaged in our deliver on its core programs. In publishing program. particular, I would highlight the cultural programming at Piqqusilirivvik, which The college will be continuing its strengthens and enhances student development and implementation of the connections to their cultural identity as Inuit Language and Culture Centre of Inuit. Excellence. The Inuit Language and Culture Centre of Excellence is part of Satellite delivery of Piqqusilirivvik the foundation for the eventual creation programming in the communities of of a university college. Igloolik and Baker Lake has been very successful. The delivery of similar In support of this, I will be travelling programs could be facilitated through next May with senior management of the community learning centre network Piqqusilirivvik to meet with senior or other groups that may be interested. officials in . During those There are 25 students from across meetings, we will be exploring the Nunavut that have been invited to the possibility of staff exchanges and spring session in Clyde River. resource development.

In 2015, the college established a In order to move forward with the publishing division that provides an implementation of the Inuit Language opportunity to publish research and other Protection Act, Nunavut needs more materials. In this past year, the college bilingual teachers. To support this initiative, I have recently given direction

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1491 to the college to promote and revitalize proposed 2016-17 budget of Nunavut bilingualism in the curriculum for the Arctic College. Nunavut Teacher Education Program. Mr. Chairman, the college’s total budget The college is looking into ways to is made up of a base contribution from expand its programming to provide the Government of Nunavut, third party appropriate training in public funding, and revenue from other sources, administration to increase not only the such as tuition fees. The Government of number of Inuit public servants in Nunavut’s proposed contribution to management positions, but also to Nunavut Arctic College for 2016-17 is increase the likelihood of these approximately $34.4 million. The individuals reaching senior positions. standing committee notes that the college’s overall budget for 2016-17 is As the college looks toward the future, it somewhat less than anticipated due to needs to increase Inuit professional the loss of third party funding. However, employment. The college has been members encourage the minister and the strengthening its core instructors through president of the college in their efforts to the Instructor Development Program and acquire additional third party funding for the recruitment of bilingual adult 2016-17. educators. Next steps in this process will be to identify succession planning and Mr. Chairman, Nunavut Arctic College mentorship for management positions. works closely with the government and other partners to improve employment Mr. Chairman and Members, in opportunities for Nunavummiut. conclusion, the work undertaken at the Preparing, training, and educating college is critical to meeting this Nunavummiut to enter the labour force government’s mandate as well as to not only supports our economy and meeting the long-term challenges improves our public service, but also Nunavut faces. helps to ensure that the services delivered match Nunavut’s needs. The (interpretation) Mr. Chairman, I would standing committee is hopeful that the be pleased to answer any questions that college’s proposal, in conjunction with my colleagues may have. (interpretation the colleges in our two fellow territories, ends) Qujannamiik. Merci. Thank you. for federal pan-territorial industry training funding will be successful Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, Minister. Does the chair of the standing The standing committee recognizes and committee have any opening comments? supports the college’s proposed focus on Mr. Joanasie. environmental technology and the social worker programs in 2016-17. Members Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank also look forward to updates on new you, Mr. Chairman. As the Chair of the programs being offered at the college in Standing Committee on Social Wellness, such areas as law enforcement and I am pleased to make opening comments denominational minister training. as we begin deliberations on the

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Mr. Chairman, one area in which for opportunities in further education or services are greatly needed and for employment. which the necessary education and training programs must be maintained is The standing committee recognizes that in the area of early childhood education. the college faces some challenges with It is well recognized that early childhood its aging infrastructure, the lack of space education plays an important role in in some facilities, and a shortage of preparing children for a life of learning. housing for instructors. The committee Early childhood development is a critical commends the ongoing dedication of stage in a person’s life that can adult educators who continue to work determine their quality of health, well- hard to deliver programs despite these being, learning, and behaviour in the and other difficulties. future. The standing committee would support a stable and long-term financial Mr. Chairman, during the minister’s commitment from the government to appearance before the standing ensure that early childhood educator committee to present and discuss his certification programs are not affected draft 2016-17 budget and business plan by a lack of stable funding. for Nunavut Arctic College, members were given to understand that the college Mr. Chairman, the standing committee will be playing a lead role in supports the college’s ongoing efforts in representing the Government of Nunavut training and certifying Nunavummiut for on the Nunavut Inuit Training health and wellness careers. Members Corporation Advisory Council. Standing look forward to receiving regular committee members look forward to updates on the numbers of college updates on the status of applications graduates who go on to successfully fill which are successful in the Nunavut heath care positions across the territory. Inuit Training Corporation review process. The standing committee also supports the college in its efforts to improve Mr. Chairman, that concludes my programs relating to language services opening remarks. Individual members and encourages potential candidates may also have questions and comments across Nunavut to apply for as we proceed. Thank you. interpreter/translator programs and certification programs. Members Chairman (interpretation): Thank you, recognize that investments are being Mr. Joanasie. Mr. Mapsalak. made in the college’s Inuit Language and Culture Centre of Excellence, but Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank have yet to receive any specific updates you, Mr. Chairman. I move to report on progress in this area. progress to the Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, community learning centres play an important role in the Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. delivery of programs at the community There is a motion on the floor and the level, enabling community residents to motion is not debatable. All those in improve their skills, as well as to prepare favour of the motion. Thank you. I will

Friday, March 11, 2016 Nunavut Hansard 1493 now rise to report progress to the 8. Returns to Written Questions Speaker. 9. Replies to Opening Address

Speaker (interpretation): Item 20. 10. Petitions Report of the Committee of the Whole. 11. Responses to Petitions Mr. Enook. 12. Reports of Standing and Special Item 20: Report of the Committee of Committees on Bills and Other the Whole Matters Mr. Enook (interpretation): Mr. 13. Tabling of Documents Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 13 and the main 14. Notices of Motions estimates, and would like to report 15. Notices of Motions for First progress. Also, Mr. Speaker, I move that the Report of the Committee of the Reading of Bills Whole be concurred with. Thank you, 16. Motions Mr. Speaker. 17. First Reading of Bills Speaker (interpretation): There is a 18. Second Reading of Bills motion on the floor. Is there a seconder? Mr. Keyootak. (interpretation ends) The 19. Consideration in Committee of motion is in order. All those in favour. the Whole of Bills and Other Opposed. The motion is carried. Matters Item 21. Third Reading of Bills. Item 22.

(interpretation) Orders of the Day. Mr.  Bill 10 Clerk.  Bill 11

Item 22: Orders of the Day  Bill 12  Bill 13 Clerk (Mr. Quirke): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the Day for March  Tabled Document 73 – 4(2) 12:  Tabled Document 116 – 4(2)

1. Prayer  Tabled Document 140 – 4(2) 2. Ministers’ Statements  Tabled Document 149 – 4(2) 3. Members’ Statements  Tabled Document 70 – 4(3) 4. Returns to Oral Questions 20. Report of the Committee of the 5. Recognition of Visitors in the Whole Gallery 21. Third Reading of Bills 6. Oral Questions 22. Orders of the Day 7. Written Questions Thank you.

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) This House stands adjourned until Saturday, March 12, at 1:30 p.m.

(interpretation) Sergeant-at-Arms.

>>House adjourned at 16:45