The US Navy Japanese/Oriental Language School Archival Project The Interpreter Archives, University of Colorado at Boulder Libraries Number 134 Remember September 11, 2001 [email protected] April 1, 2009

Our Mission lie. But I didn't expect him to do with, they no longer play with to fill a newly created position it the way he did or as soon as he literature. The computer teaching Japanese Government In the Spring of 2000, the did. I wasn't as startled with his becomes an end in itself. But the and Politics, he held positions in Archives continued the origi- suicide as I was with Kawabata's. worst thing is television, which Canberra, Australia, and with the nal efforts of Captain Roger Of course, there are people who has a very destructive effect. University of California program Pineau and William Hudson, still say that Kawabata didn't kill in South Korea, Guam, and and the Archives first at- himself, that it was an accident. Do you see any traits that link Japan. During the Pacific War, tempts in 1992, to gather the In Mishima's case, I think he Genji with Kawabata? Frank served in all but one of the papers, letters, photographs, decide how he would do it well Certainly, the Kawabata style is battles in the Pacific as and records of graduates of in advance. That he knew when the Murasaki style. The Communications Officer aboard the US Navy Japanese/ he would do it is quite clear. You elusiveness of the Kawabata the USS Minneapolis. Late in the Oriental Language School, know, he finished writing the last style seems to be very akin to war, he attended the US Navy University of Colorado at novel - the one that I translated, Murasaki. He can be clear, but Oriental Language School in Boulder, 1942-1946. We The Death of the Angel - in the he prefers to be elusive and Stillwater, Oklahoma. After the assemble these papers in summer. He killed himself that foggy. And that is also Murasaki. War, he was employed for one recognition of the contribu- November. On the last page he You can think of classical year in Japan at the General tions made by JLS/OLS gives the date of his death, so Japanese literature falling into Headquarters of the Supreme instructors and graduates to he'd obviously chosen that two categories. The Japanese Commander as a translator and the War effort in the Pacific sometime earlier. style with Tale of Genji sort of at economic analyst. Before the and the Cold War, to the the beginning. And the Sino- War, he graduated from Harvard creation of East Asian Why do you think that the fifties Japanese style, Tale of Heike. University and in 1947 he language programs across and sixties were such a vibrant The Japanese style is very returned to Harvard to obtain an the country, and to the period in Japanese literature? elusive, very ambiguous, awfully MA in China Studies. His next development of Japanese- I don't really know. I think it just hard to keep up with what's move in 1949 was to the American cultural rec- happened. There are literary ups going on. One word will contain University of California, onciliation programs after and downs. There are bleak all the important elements of a Berkeley, where he received a World War II. periods and very good periods. sentence. A very long verb or Ph.D. in Political Science. In It's not easy to tell why they adjective at the end, which will later years, Frank focused on the Edward Seidensticker come. I think the beginning of a tell you who the speaker or doer political decisions and actions A Direct Translator very strong period was round is and what is his or her rank. It which contributed to the

(Cont‘d) What was your about the time of the First World is all in that verb or adjective. relationship between Canada and impression of Mishima? War; it lasted through the The Sino-Japanese style is very Japan.. More recently, he was I never liked his writing, but he Second World War until the clear by comparison. It is looking at patterns of security was a very interesting man. He fifties and sixties. This would be difficult to read because you and defense in the entire Asia was extremely intelligent. He a period from, say, 1910 to 1970, have to know a lot of characters. region. In 2000, he received the had thoughts on lots of things, of 60 years. I think it can be You don't with Genji and in that ―Order of the Sacred Treasure‖ some of which I agreed with, looked upon perhaps as one sense Genji is the simpler of the from the Emperor of Japan. others I didn't. I didn't like his cycle. Beginning with Natsume two. But in the sense of being Mixed with academic life, in fiction; I thought his plays were Soseki and ending with the explicit, of coming to the point, earlier years Frank enjoyed better than his fiction. But his deaths of the big writers - the Sino-Japanese style is much hiking, figure skating, skiing, best writing was his criticism. He Tanizaki, Kawabata and clearer; I've often said that traveling, and baking chocolate was a superb critic. He was Mishima. I suppose people who Kawabata is in the Japanese cakes. In more recent years, he sometimes very mad at me, but I are good at this kind of thing can style, while Tanizaki is in the found fun and friendship while never heard that from him. I only find sociological explanations. Sino-Japanese style. (to be playing bridge and taking I'm not, I can't see it being cont‘d) exercise classes at Brock House. heard that later from others. Some of the things I said made anything more than chance. You Edward Seidensticker He met his wife, Virginia, in him very angry, but he never can see why it started. At the JLS 1943 Japan and they were married in showed it. I got on with him very beginning of the First World JAL inflight magazine Australia. Since moving to War, when Japan had pretty January 2003 Canada, they have had two sons, well, but he laughed too much. ______And when people laugh too much assimilated influences Peter and Marc, who view their much, you wonder whether form the West and was setting Frank Corriston Langdon father as the involved scholar, anything amuses them. out on its own. The mystery is Professor Emeritus attentive father, and eternal why nothing really good has gentleman. University of British Columbia Virginia Langdon Did you have any inkling that he come since. I guess you can Wife would commit suicide? explain that to a large measure Frank passed away at home by television. TV has had a sitting at his desk on the evening [email protected] I thought all along that he would & David M. Hays, Editor/Archivist terrible effect on arts the world of February 22, 2006. For 16 of ______one day kill himself. Suicide runs all the way through his over, and nowhere has the effect his 86 years he had been dealing Instead of Carrying a Gun writing. I thought that if he didn't been more dreadful than here. with bladder cancer and lived And the computer. When young with a pacemaker for 5 years. someday kill himself, than it (Cont‘d) My next duty was at the people have computers to play Before coming to UBC in 1958 would all turn out to have been a Joint Intelligence Center, Pacific Ocean Area , JICPOA, located at 1969, working with Professor Spring of ‘38, there was still not have been nearly as pleasant Pearl Harbor. My job was to Bumgardner. fighting going on upriver, so as it was. The family and friends translate documents captured in there was the infrequent human were present when CIA awarded Carl L. Bumgardner* the invasion of the Japanese body floating downstream. From me a ―Certificate of Merit with and Ernest L. Lawton, Empire. Because I had some my position on the bow I had Distinction.‖ "Photodifluoramination and technical background, I counted 14 ―stiffs‖ by the middle I consider myself lucky; My Atomic Fourine Reactions", concentrated on scientific and of our 6-8 weeks training season study of Japanese began an Accounts of Chemical Research, technical documents. Among before a strong request from the interesting career with good 1974, p. 14. these was a progress report of a ______middle of the shell brought friends and a very supportive laboratory developing anti- counting to an abrupt halt. (to be husband and daughters . We now aircraft control, fire control Shanghai cont‘d) have 5 grandchildren, all equipment which contained data In the Late 1930s Euan G. Davis achievers and fun to be with. on the limitations of anti-aircraft JLS 1944 Ron and I are still involved with directors. This information was When it arrives, The Interpreter [Ed. Note: What a fascinating real estate and charity work, but transmitted to naval aircraft is the highlight of the day‘s mail! account! 1LT Krulak went on to be a each year we try to get away for operations and was useful, I A considerable number of 3-war veteran and a Lt. General. He a major tour and visits with our understand, in planning fighter familiar names march across the distinguished himself in intelligence offspring. I am sorry that our and bomber attacks. pages, most recently, Hank work on the river, perhaps sometimes schedule this year conflicted At the close of hostilities, I Knoche, who was an associate as coxswain. Pretty dark humor, with the WAVE reunion. counting bodies.] for some years. became a part of the Technical ______Avis Pick Waring The comments by Dan Mission To Japan, investigating JLS 1944 the technical progress of Japan Williams (JLS 1943) brought Avis Pick Waring during the War. We interviewed back memories of Shanghai: 1993 WAVE JLS Reunion Book (Cont‘d) After Separation, I went ______the scientists and engineers when I graduated from Bowdoin to Japan as a civilian translator involved in wartime research and in 1937, I was fortunate to have a Edward Seidensticker for the Army of Occupation. Just development and visited the job with the Far Eastern Division A Direct Translator getting to Japan was a laboratories and workshops of Citibank – then named memorable trip: a total of 6 week (Cont‘d) You have been where the work was done. I was National City Bank of New from Oregon to New York by observing Japan for more than assigned to the team York. I spent nearly four years in train and by ship via the Panama 50 years. Some say that it investigating progress in optics the Far East. There were three Canal to Hawaii with long delays changes on the surface but never and photography. I worked with months in Kobe, Japan, while the in each port. Blanche, Margaret changes underneath. a Lieut. Commander and a Chinese and Japanese were Dilley and Betty Kneckt were I used to say that. People would Lieutenant, who were highly fighting around Shanghai, then also on the ―cruise.‖ say that Japan was changing. qualified technical people. We 28 months in Shanghai, followed Fortunately, I wasn‘t a Look at the young people, and I visited laboratories and by 12 months back in Kobe. translator long, as I was asked to would say, ―Wait 20 years. Now interrogated Japanese scientists By the late 1930s the foreign be a statistical assistant to the they're 15, but when they're 35, and engineers. I am sure some of forces in Shanghai had been Office of Economic Research, to they will be exactly like their them played a significant role in augmented by an Italian military prepare data on the Japanese mamas and papas.‖ But now I the post-war Japanese camera contingent [no help there], food shortage. That introduction think they really are changing. industry. (to be cont‘d) probably regimental size, which had seen service in the Italian to economics led 3 years later to The young people are beyond Lawrence Alan Seymour conquest of Ethiopia. I recollect, my study of economics at redemption. That puts it JLS 1944 Cambridge University—a most somewhat extremely, but I really ______somewhat faintly to be sure, that the 4th Regiment USMC had interesting and rewarding 2 am put off by them. I think this Carl L. Bumgardner years. After graduation at is a change that will not be been reinforced by elements of Near the end of World War II, the 6th Regiment USMC by this Cambridge, I married Ron and overcome as they age, but maybe Carl Bumgardner graduated from time in 1937-8. we soon went to work in it will. Perhaps this current will the Naval Oriental Language My own contacts with USMC Guatemala for 2 years. Then we turn out to be stronger than I School, specializing in Japanese personnel were largely with the moved to Washington, D.C. thought it was. But now I think [at Oklahoma A&M in Shanghai Rowing Club. The My work for the CIA was on that things are finally changing. the ―open‖ side, mainly writing Stillwater]. He received his Club put on two rowing Why do you think the young are reports on various aspects of B.A.Sc. in Chemical Engineering ―regattas‖ a year on Shanghai‘s so bad? foreign economies. I was always from the University of Toronto Whangpoo (Huangpu) River, Because they have too much sorry that CIA did not need in 1952, and in 1956 his Ph.D, in involving eight oar shells, fours money. The Japanese are much economic reports on Japan, thus Chemistry from MIT. After a and pair sculls. One rowed by nicer people when they are poor. I never worked on Japan. One year‘s postdoctoral work with A. nationality: Americans, English, This should not be taken to mean benefit of my job was orientation C. Cope, he took a research Scotts, and Germans. For the that I think they ought to be travel in the country I was position with the Redstone 1938 regatta, the cox and coach poor, but I think they are nicer st assigned to research. I took two Division of Rohm & Haas, of the American crew was 1 when they are poor. The young major trips in the Far East and Huntsville, Ala. In 1964, he Lieutenant Victor ―Brute‖ people have too much money. another in Latin America. joined the faculty of North Krulak, USMC, who had been They have an utterly hedonist Much of the CIA work involved Carolina State University at cox on the Annapolis crew of an outlook; they are interested only high pressure and overtime Raleigh. There he has been earlier date. On the Whangpoo, in pleasure, and they think they during crises. Without Rose, our pursuing his research in the the cox had to keep a sharp eye can do whatever they want to do. dependable maid and baby sitter chemistry of nitrogen-fluorine out for tugs, barges, rowed I think that is something we five days a week, and Ron being compounds. Ernest Lawton native water craft and the Americans taught them. received his Ph.D. from North occasional ships. The water the ―Saturday maid,‖ as he called Carolina State University in could get rough for a shell. In the himself, our family life would Do you feel that Japan has But there had only been Japanese for a Lieutenant J.G. to military units of company size declined in the 50 years since close-order drill and a lecture on tell a 2 star General to shut up or existed in the 1930s. The other you first arrived? wearing the Marine uniform in get out [While a ILT safety battalion was equipped by the It seemed to be so remarkable for Boulder. Our intended training officer on the guns, I had the US military and included a its durability - the old system of with aviation ground officers at mixed blessing of asking a COL, cavalry troop, a machine gun ethics and morals, the old Quantico was cut short after a the DIVARTY Commander, to unit, a Philippine infantry dogmas. I think it's a great pity few short days to get our don a helmet (which he was not company, plus units I don‘t that it has diminished. But it compact group out to the 5th carrying in his jeep), or leave the recall. hasn't been quick. It has been 50 Amphibious Corps at Pearl. The battery area, as we were live The Machine Gun Company years, but it's only now that I feel M-1 they taught me to field strip firing. I even offered him a GI’s had four WWI machine guns. that some permanent change is blindfolded at Quantico was not helmet, which he declined in We wore WWI US helmets and occurring. People are a great deal the carbine they handed me in disgust. He left in a huff]. had 45‘s to wear when patrolling better off. The Japanese have a the Pacific, nor had we fired At JICPOA, I worked the the streets which we did in the great deal more material things either one. So the oft-quoted night shift from 4PM to summers of 38 and 39 on the than ever before in their history. dictum of some general about midnight. One night as I was anniversary of the Japanese That can be considered how the Marines always trained walking to the BOQ from Attack on Shanghai [Ah, the improvement. That some great their men for battle readiness JICPOA, I overtook an admiral, M1911, know it well]. The things are gone or are going is didn‘t apply. We learned some of who was also walking. After professional military and the hard to deny. But I'm very the useful things on our own, requesting permission to pass, I municipal police were on a high reluctant to be nostalgic. To be like putting a condom over the recognized him to be Admiral alert and the SVC mobilized to nostalgic, to yearn for a time 50 rifle barrel to keep the sand out, Nimitz (Fleet Admiral discourage any incidents that years ago, is to yearn for a time and to hoard the 2-cigarette CINCPOA). He asked me to join might give the Japanese military when I had money and they had ration per meal on Saipan in him and we chatted the rest of an excuse to take over the none. And that would be order to have some to share the way. He wanted to know International Settlement and the immoral. (end) during the occasional POW about my wife and children (at French Concession. Edward Seidensticker interview. (to be cont‘d) the time we had a six-month-old During the two mobilizations JLS 1943 Thomas N. Fournoy baby girl whom I had never that I was involved in, one of the JAL inflight magazine seen) and what work I had been several memories I have is of January 2003 JLS 1944 ______doing before the Navy. What an being housed at the Shanghai ______Instead of Carrying a Gun experience!!! Race Club. My assigned cot was Flournoy at War I would like to hear from any under a Para-Mutual sign.

of my colleagues who shared this Unfortunately SLEEP was not I think my mental state vis a vis (After the War in Japan, Cont‘d) period in our lives. But it is mobilized along with me since the Japanese was fairly adequate With few exceptions, the unlikely, since I am ninety years the Philippine Company was at the time. After all, I had a year Japanese scientists and engineers old, and most of my friends are housed in the same area. This in college before Boulder to were most cooperative in dead. (end) unit‘s members were mostly absorb all the coverage of the discussing their work and most Lawrence Alan Seymour musicians in night clubs, and as attack on Pearl Harbor, Bataan eager to show that they were at JLS 1944 those places closed between and the rest, while a group of us least as good as the Germans. ______0100 and 0500, the band were starting to learn Japanese We landed at Sasebo, in southern members would come in from diplomats about to be Japan and our first target was Shanghai chattering happily and clumping repatriated to Japan. I had years Nagasaki. I became well In the Late 1930s along loudly in their hob-nailed in college before that, studying acquainted with a Japanese boots down the concrete the German/Russian entente and engineer who was most (Cont‘d) Dan Williams‘ walkway. the stand-off between Japan and cooperative. I got to know him reference to the Shanghai The outpouring above would the ABCD powers. Then at pretty well, and I finally asked Volunteer Corps (SVC) also suggest The Interpreter really Boulder, I was treated to 15 him where he was when the brought back a few memories pushed my Shanghai button. months of study and association bomb dropped. He said he was since I was a member of the Thanks (end) with new Issei and Nisei friends okay because the lab was American Machine Gun Euan G. Davis on Maui after Saipan. protected. He then explained Company for about two years. Most of the larger British and JLS 1944 I was one of the roughly 10% that, unlike Hiroshima, Nagasaki of our Boulder Class who chose was hilly and if you were on the American ―Hongs‖, or [Ed. Note: E.G. Davis, Combat Infantryman, Heavy Weapons Co. I’ll to apply to the Marine Corps. far side of the hill, you were companies, gave a certain bet he was never able to add that My best friend‘s parents protected. I then asked him how amount of encouragement to his family had fared, and he told their ―juniors‖ to join the corps. time to his later service time. An (mistakenly attributing great infantry company made up of jazz Leo Reierstad, JLS 1944, was a good sense to me) decided the me his wife and two children band members boggles the mind. It is Marines might be okay for their were lost. member. I don‘t remember probably a good thing the SVC was son also, since I had elected to There was one exception: a whether Halsey Wilbur, JLS never mobilized for combat after apply. My standing 6‘2‖ while Major General in charge of one 1943, who worked across the December 8, 1941. No telling how weighing less than 135 [He must lab. For the most part, the desk from me for 8-10 months at much of a circus that would have been: too many calibers and not have stood sideways] didn‘t technical people were Citibank, was or not. cooperative in discussing their One battalion was equipped nationalities of weapons and ammo, seem to prevent me from passing not enough training, no artillery or all the physicals and surviving work. But the chief interrupted by the British military and included a cavalry unit, a couple air support. 18 months overseas. Of course, and was obviously trying to Anytime the newsletter pushes a nobody was going to ask me to conceal their work. Finally, the infantry companies, manned by “button”, feel free to send us the heft a BAR or flamethrower – chief interrogator said he would Brits, a Portuguese infantry outpouring that results. We will only a carbine and a backpack have to keep quiet or leave. It company and a Jewish infantry place your story in a future issue.] company. I have often wondered ______with a Rose-Innes jiten. was a strain on my Boulder how many, if any, overt Jewish Ray F Rollins Following the War, Kinsman Project, who was extremely again until the reunion at was an instructor in English at disappointed to have missed the 2002 Pomona College in 1999. (Frank th OLS 4/1945 - the University of North Carolina 60 Anniversary JLS Reunion at Gibney). CU.] Ray Freemont Rollins, whose at Chapel Hill in 1946 and an ______It seems to me Bob was ill career was covered in Issue English Instructor at UCLA from most of is life but was a loved 1948 to 1950. Meanwhile, he Kinsman Comment and respected English professor #107A, of Norkolk, VA, age 85, passed away at Lake Taylor had completed his Ph.D. at Yale Bob was my classmate at the at UCLA for all those years-- Transitional Care Hospital in 1949. He continued at UCLA USN JLS, fellow infantry trainee teaching all of us some Sunday July 9, 2006 at 12:45 in the English Department as a at USMC's Camp Elliot and lessons in courage and AM. assistant professor (1950-56), therefore both day-crawler and friendship. He is survived by his wife, associate professor (1956-1963), night-crawler, with M1 rifle and Chuck Cross and professor, (1963 to date). He JLS 1943 Elizabeth Crowder Rollins, son full packs, over that area's dry ______Ronald Ray Rollins and wife was associate dean of the hills. Between then and V-J Diana of Roswell, GA and graduate division between 1962 Photo at CPT Welch’s Home Day, we "Boulder Marines" grandchildren: Christopher Ray and 1975, acting dean 1973- would meet occasionally as our Fred W. Frank sent a photograph Rollins of Chesapeake, VA; Eric 1975. Dr. Kinsman was regional assignment paths crossed. Those of what appears to be a Troy Rollins of Virginia Beach, chair Woodrow Wilson National were always pleasant and often graduation gathering at the home VA; Lisa Nichol Rollins of Fellowship Foundation 1959 to surprise occasions. As your bio of CPT Leo Welch, USN (he Virginia Beach; and Florence 1962. He was a Ford Foundation indicates, Bob entered academia may have been behind the Nichole Rollins of Roswell, GA. Fellow from 1952 to 53 and a and received noted appointments camera), with five Navy Ensigns, He was preceded in death by Guggenheim Fellow from 1956 and recognition of his uniquely a Marine 2nd Lieutenant, Mrs. his former wives, Margaret Jones to 1957. Dr. Kinsman was also a effective writing, teaching, Welch and Barbara Welch. Rollins and Ethel Pittenger member of the MLA leadership and other skills. If I James Holderbaum, Richard Rollins, his parents and five Renaissance Society of America, can think of anyone else, Sheehan, and James Holden brothers. the Renaissance English Text Dartmouth grad or otherwise, Davis are in the photograph, His following step-children Society, the Democratic Party who can contribute details on taken on a late summer day (it also survive him: Mrs. William and the Congregational Church. Bob Kinsman's career, I will let could not be spring, as none of Mann of Florida, Mrs. Tom Professor Kinsman was the you know. Sorry "Kinsman" the three would have graduated Courson of Colorado, Wesley author of John Skelton: Canon (which name we usually yet), 1943. As Holderbaum has Crowder of Virginia, Mrs. Craig and Census, 1967; John Skelton, used and which I believe was his not responded and Sheehan and Norman of Virginia, along with a Poems, 1969; John Skelton, preference) is no longer with us. Davis have both passed, we need host of great-grandchildren, Early Tudor Laureate: an As stated before, David, too assistance identifying the rest. grandchildren, nieces and Annotated Bibliography, 1488- many obits! Says Frank, ―As you see, this nephews. 1977, 1979. He was also author Dan S. Williams was an ‗after-graduation‘ photo: Elizabeth Crowder Rollins of numerous articles and JLS 1943 they‘ve changed from enlisted ______reviews. He was editor of and ______attire to the white [and khaki] of Robert Starr Kinsman contributor to The Darker Vision R.S. Kinsman: Lessons in Navy ensigns. Place of photo of the Renaissance, 1974. He th 1919-2006 Courage & Friendship was 620 12 Street, Boulder, the was a member of the editorial [garden of the] Welch home. Dear David, Robert S. Kinsman, JLS 1943, board of the University of That was a hospitable house for Thanks so much for all your was an educator, born in Jamaica California Press from 1978. many of us. During absences of work on Bob Kinsman. It means Plains, Massachusetts, March 22, Who‘s Who in America CPT Welch, Mrs. Welch was a a lot to several of us who knew 1919, the son of Joshua Starr and 1980-1981 generous hostess. His daughter, him well and had lost touch a Florence Ruby (Markham) & David M. Hays at that time, was a friend of John year or so ago. Bob roomed Kinsman. He received his AB Editor/Archivist Holden Davis. Many of this down the hall from John Rich, from Dartmouth College in 1940 [Ed. Note: After our newsletters were group were Ivy League grads.‖ and his MA from Yale returned, I called the Kinsmans and Roger Hackett and me in the their phone was disconnected. I then Women's Dorm [Now Sewall David M. Hays University, 1942. He attended Archivist & Editor the US Navy Japanese Language conducted a web-search for a Hall] the summer of 1942. He possible obituary and found a was on our touch football team. & Fred W. Frank, JLS 1943 School at the University of ______comment that Bob Kinsman had Colorado from July 1942 to We attended his January '43 passed away in March 10, 2006 in wedding in rowdy numbers. $Donations Accepted September 1943 and was the 1940 Dartmouth College Class commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant He was one of the first group If you wish to support the JLS/OLS Notes. I contacted Ms. Crimin, a of "Boulder Marines" at Green's in the USMCR in 1943. Kinsman daughter. Archival Project,you may contribute Farm, Camp Elliott in the donations to our US Navy JLS/OLS served from 1943 to 1946. For a Ms. Susan K. Crimin time, he was assigned to the summer of '43. I didn't serve Fund. Make your check out to the 43749 Secure Pl. with him further but saw a lot of University of Colorado Enlisted Japanese Language Lancaster, CA 93536 Foundation, writing US Navy JLS School at Camp Elliott, after him at Yale Graduate School in She appreciated this obituary. 1947-49. His wife Barbara was Fund on the memo line to the which he served in the Pacific in bottom left of your check, and mail it Kinsman’s whereabouts during the very helpful to Shirley as we the Solomons, then, in mid-1944, war was gleaned from to: he was assigned to Camp Richie, settled into life in the New correspondence in the Pineau Haven slums. We attended the David Hays Maryland and Camp Lejeune, Collection,, as Roger Pineau was a celebrations when he passed hid Archives North Carolina. He married longtime friend. I sent this obituary University of Colorado at Boulder PhD orals. Barbara Ann Yates on January 2, of my own devising to UCLA and 184 UCB 1943 and they had three Dartmouth College and to his old Later we talked on the phone Boulder, Colorado 80309-0184 daughters: Susan Wilkes, Sarah Marine buddies. I remember Mr. when I was in California visiting Kinsman as an enthusiastic my folks in Claremont over the Phone (303) 492-7242/Fax -3960 Markham, and Margaret Roper. supporter of the JLS/OLS Archival Email: [email protected] years but we didn't actually meet ______