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Fine by me. 4 • Reply • Share › veryveryoldfella > Pargeter • 2 months ago Pure electric... power generation itself is a cause of pollution, just imagine how much we would need if we all changed over enmasse. power generating grid cope with the demand? There are no easy answers to this problem, glib comments don't help. BTW I run a 1.4 petrol so have no axe to grind as such. 1 • Reply • Share › Janner > veryveryoldfella • 2 months ago UK Power gen is 44% NOx and particulates free (Renewables and nuclear), and 30% gas, which is substantially particulates free with much, much lower NOx than and internal combustion engine. remaining 26% isn't so clean but is being replaced in the near term. Typical driver would use about 2,500 kWHrs of electricity per annum 25 million 'average UK cars' or 62.5 TWHrs against a UK year of 336 TWHrs so an 18% increase in electricity production. The answers are here now and over the next few years - hybrids, range-extenders and all-electrics; prices are coming down and range going up. A rapid take up of electric cars would take around 15 years for most new cars to be electric and a further 20 years for very few ICE cars to be left on the road. electricity generation to be increased and a charging infrastructure to be improved. Electric cars are fun, fast and really cheap to run. see more 1 • Reply • Share › veryveryoldfella > Janner • 2 months ago I agree they are fast, fun and cheap to run, I test drove a Tesla Model S. Price, and a long waiting list seems to me to be the only reasons to cause hesitation after driving one. I think you may well be right about the future, I hope I am around to see it. • Reply • Share › pazuzu001 > veryveryoldfella • At the moment, the biggest limit (in my opinion) is the infrastructure. If one drives no more than 200-250 miles/day, overnight recharging at home is fine. Regular long(er) range journeys are very dependent on where the charging points are and how many networks one subscribes to. • Reply • Share › soldierboy001 > pazuzu001 • 2 months ago Ah yes the infrastructure, OK if you have a drive, but what about all those flats, terraced onto the street with 2/3 cars per household etc.? • Reply • Share › pazuzu001 > soldierboy001 • 2 months ago That's still infrastructure - though it's a different issue with it that you raise. • Reply • Share › soldierboy001 > pazuzu001 • 2 months ago I am talking about charge point infrastructure not housing infrastructure.