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25 Oral Answers CHAITRA 31,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26 IeUl;' Ministry gives guarantee that H will Will the Minister of WATER RE- supply gas to this project. After that the SOURCES be pleasE\d to state: Planning Commission gives Its acceptance. At the instance of the Petroleum Ministry we (a) the details of irrigation projects pro- have approved this plan, we also share your posed by the various State Governments, concern which you have expressed. We particularly by Haryana, Karnataka, Assam, have written letters to the Petroluem Ministry Maharashtra and Kerala, pending for clear- and to the Prime Minister regarding the ance with the Union Government; requirement of gas in Gujarat and this project at itran is ready and it has been constructed (b) since when these are pending at the request of the Petroleum Ministry; that alongwith the reasons thereof; is why that Ministry should accord its ap- proval and make immediate arrangements (c) the number of projects which have for providing gas. The Petroleum Ministry been cleared out of them alongwith the has stated that they are making arrange- allocation made for each project; and ments for providing gas as early as possible. (d) the time by which the remaining [English] projects are likely to be cleared?
SHRI P.C. CHACKO: Sir, the hon. Min- ister in his statement has given the gas- SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (R'!lSera): based powerprojects being cleared for imple- Where is the Minister, Sir? mentation for the 8th Plan period. Unfortu- nately, in the list annexed to the answer two The concerned Minister is not present. power projects in Kerala, Brahmapuram at Ernakulam and Kasargode at Trivendrum, ( Interruptions) which have recently been cleared for imple- 'Tlentation for the 8th Plan period are being SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV ommitted. Will the hon. Minister give the (Azamgarh): Sir, this is highly objectionable. assurance that these two projects which Somebody should take the responsibility for have already been cleard by the Central this. Government cannot function like this. Government for implementation in Kerala will be implemented in the 8th Plan? I would [ Translation] also like to know when will; the gas linkage be finalised. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: The Gov- ernment has failed. (Interruptions) this is a very serious matter. You had stated in this SHRI KALP NATH RAI: the Kerala spon- very house, that a lot of expenditure is sored gas-based projects are under consid- incurred on each question. (Interruptions). eration of the Central Electricity Authority. When the techno-economic clearance will A lot of money of the country is being be available and when the Planning Com- spent and the Government is irresponsible. mission gives clearnce then this question regarding the financial tie up will come. The [English] Government will consider these projects the moment all these clearance are available. The Govemment has no moral right to continue. Pending Irrigation Projects [ Translation] + *665. SHRI NARAIN SINGH The Govemment should immediately CHAUDHRI: be dismissed. SHRI BHUPINDER SINGH HOODA: ( Interruptions) 27 Oral Answers APRIL 20, 1992 Oral Answers 28 SHRI MADAN LAl KHURANA: Sir, I [English] have a point of order to raise. If any minister does notwantto give a reply, then he informs MR. SPEAKER: No. It is not like this. I the House in writing that he is not available have said everything what I have to say. I and in his absence such and such minister think, he is embarking upon a bold adven- will replylhe questions pertain 10 his Ministry. ture. I will allow him to do that. Mr. Rajesh Have you received any information in writ- Pilot. ing? ( Inteffuptions) [English] [ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): With your permission may SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Mr. I answer? Speaker, Sir.
[English] SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: He has not been authorised by the Minister to answer. MR. SPEAKER: Iwill hear Mr. Vajpayee.
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SHRI RAM NAIK: My point of informa- SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Mr. tion is that the concemed Minister must be Speaker, Sir, I am on a point of propriety. present here for replying the question per- Even if it is accepted that the Minister did not taining to his Ministry and if the member expect that so many Members would be concerned is not able to attend the House absent and his question would come up, as due to some reasons, he should also give in you have rightly said, he should have been writing about his absence from the House. H present in the House. In future he should the Member has informed, you, then the remain present. Now I would like to know as Minister should also inform you about his to how Shri Pilot is taking this responsibility absence. In this case, has the Minister on to himseH? He has not been briefed about informed you not? it and he has not come prepared for this.
We are asking thing for our information. [English]
SHRI TAR IT BARAN TOPDAR: Sir, you SHRI A.CHARLES: This is a wonderful give a ruling on this issue. example of collective responsibility.
[ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: You are well within your right to expect the Minister to be present in SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE; Shri the House. Probably, the Minister should not Shukla has not Authorised him. Do you think have expected that other Members will not Shir Pilot will do justice to the question? Don1 be present in the House and this question will put him into new troubles. He is in the habit not reach. this he will not do in future. Mr. of meddling into all affairs. Mr. Pilot should Rajesh Pilot is asking for a permission to not be permitted to answer this question. reply to the Question. because there should be justice to the ques- tion. [ Translation] [English] SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Has he information you? MR. SPEAKER: I agree with him. 29 Oral AnSW9/S CHAITRA 31, 1914 (541(4) Oral Answers 30 (Translation] at least. you must condemn such things.
Shri Vajpayee Is absolutely right to say MR. SPEAKER: You should understand that justice should be done to the question. what I said. Now there are two options before us either the Minister should answer this quetion or It SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Mr. Speaker, should be postponed. I have said that I am Sir, see, what this is all happening? In the giving a chance to the hon'ble Minister who previous Lok Sabha the concerned Minister has shown courage to answer this ques- was disqualified from the membership of tha tion ...... House and in this L?k Sabha he is not coming. [English] [English] SHRI AMAl DATTA: There has to be a change in the rules. Otherwise, he cannot SHRI RAM NAiK: The Minister must answer this question. apologise to this House first on behalf of the govemment. [ Translation)
MR. SPEAKER: If I am, not satisfied SHR! RAJESH PILOT: Mr,. Speaker. and the august House. as well is not satisfied Sir. with your permission, on behalf of my with his reply, I will take action. colleague. I do not know the rsason why I should apologise to tha House for his ab- ( Interruptions) senoe, I would like to answer Q. No. 665.
SHRI DAU DAY Al JOSH I: Mr. Speaker, "(a) to (d). A Statement is laid on the 3ir. you may not be concerned about it but. Table of the House,"
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I would like to there is a reference to Hathnikund Barrage in know from the hon'ble Minister of Water under the Haryana head Major. h has been Resources about the Steps being taken by stated therein that work on this barrage is the Government to resolve the inter-state pending forthe last two years because "inter dispute in the matter and the time by which state aspects have not been resolved". In this dispute is likely to be resolved. this connection I would like to point out that the construction of Hathnikund Barrage is SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Mr. very necessary because the barrage at Speaker, Sir, I have talked to concerned Tahjewartla head has been declared unsafe. Chief Minister and a meeting was scheduled In case this barrage collapses, mere than to be held on the 26th of this month. For fifty per cel"]t of Haryana will turn inlo desert. certain reasons this meeting has been I would to know from the hon'ble Minister of partponed. I am sure that we can resolve this Water Resources the steps being taken by issue through mutual talks without referring the Government to resolve the interstate it to the Water resources Authority. dispute in this matter and the time by which this dispute is likely to be resolved? SHRI NARAIN SINGH CHAUDHRI; My second supplementary question IS about SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Mr. Speaker, eighth other projects that have been men- Sir, this is a very important project about tioned under the major heed of Haryana. It which we have held talks with the Haryana has been stated therein that the proposal 10 Government several times but certain as- sel up eight proje<.1s for promotion of irriga- pects of this matter could nOT be sorted out tion has been sent to the Centr1 Government and as such further enquiries are being by Haryana. However, it is pending with the made. Shri Shukla, who has since come can Centre for more than a year. the reasons throw more light on this subject. (intelT'..Jptions) stated ins that certain issue regarding finan- cial and technical aspects need to be sorted [English] out with the States. As such I want to know as to what are these financial and technical SHRI RAM NAIK You must apologies aspects referred in the reply and the efforts to the House first. made by the Ministry of Water Resources to sort out these aspects and the time by wh ich THE MINISTER OF WATER RE- these aspects and issues would be resolved. SOURCES (SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA): I want first to tender unqualified SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Mr. apology to the House and to you lor this Speaker, Sir, after the technical aspects defaul1. I hope I will be pardoned for this. I relsted to water are sorted out, comes the would like to anserthis question if the hon'ble question of rehabilitation and environment. Member repeats his question again. These are also to be sorted out. As regards inter-state matters our endeavour is to re- I Translation] solve them through mutual talks because they involve various problems faced by the SHRI NARAIN SINGH CHAUDHRI: My Slate Governments. We have made several supplementary question was about the efforts in this regard and have achieved Hathnikund barrage which is supposed to be success to a great extent. In our last meeting constructed over Yamuna river. Maximum held on 28th of March we had arrived at an irrigation in Haryana is done by the Yamuna agreement. But the major concern is that of system The barrage constructed on Taje the Tajewea barrage, which is being raised wal~' 'las been dectared usafe and in case of by hon'ble members. The siad barrage has its collapse, over fifty percent of Haryana will become obsolete and unless we repair, it the 57 Oral Answers CHAITRA 31, 1914 (S4KA) Oral Answers 58 basic question of this barrage cannot be entire North Bihar cOuld be benefited. resolved. As such the proposal to construct Hathnikund barge is being made. I am glad MR. SPEAKER; the question basically to inform you that this matter was pending relates to Haryana, Karnataka, Assam, for a long time out we have made steady Mahrashtra and Kerala. progress in this regard and are close to an agreement. I hope, but the next Session, an SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV: I agreement between Uttar Pradesh, would only like to know whetherthe Govem- Rajasthan and Haryana will be roached and ment will review this proposal, will repair the Signed by the concemed patties. old barrage or reconstruct it. SHRI NARAIN SINGH CHAUDHRI: Mr. SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: I will Speaker, Sir, I did not get reply to my ques- collect information and lay it on the Table of tion. The hon'bla Minister has not replied my the House. question. [English] MR. SPEAKER: No, no. No more,. You have already asked. SHRI TARA SINGH: This Tajewai a and Hathnikund Project fall in my con5tituency. I SHRI NARIN SINGH CHAUDHRI: But have been the Irrigatiobn and Power Minis- my question nas not been replied. ter till 1982. this barrage was actually going to be flushed cut in 1979. Since then so many MR. SPEAKER: You have already asked meetings were held with Uttar Pradesh gov- thrice. Now I cannot allow you forthe fourth ernment along with the Central Government time. Now you cannot asK. and time and again the U.P. Gov.e.rnment has been saying that they were prepared to SHRI NARAIN SINGH CHAUDHRI: I agree to it. I feei that because it is a bigger have indeed asked but I have not got the State they have got it in their mind that if this reply. project were to be washed out after 15 to 20 years the water can be u~ by the Uttar MR. SPEAKER; Shri Surya Naryan Pradesh Government. I want know from the Yadav. This questions is not related to Bihar hon. Ministerwhether he can given a specific but to Haryana, Karnataka, Assam, date by which the barrage will be constructed. Maharashtra and Kerala. Please ask for My friend has said that halt of Hryana will be information connected with the question. affected. But I say that the whole of Haryar.a will be affected if this barrage washes away. SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV: It concerns Bihar par!icularly. SHRI VIDYACHANRAN SHUKLA: This barrage is very important forHaryana as well MR. SPEAKER: It is not related to Bihar. as Uttar Pradesh because both derive a h has nothing to do with Biahr. great deal of benefit form this barrage. This barrage has outlived its life. It has be re- SHRI SURYA NARYANY ADAV: Among newed. Techincalwofi(andotherprepartions the Central projects, proposal of the Birpur have been made for construction of a new Barrage Project was drafted in 1952 and the barrag~ at HathniKund. Therfore, the State Government of Bihar submitted it to Central Government are cooperating. It is not really Government for the latter's approval. It is true that any Govemment, particularly'he particularly related to Bihar because the life Uttar Pradesh Government, is not cooperat- span of this barrage was fixed as 25 years ing in the matter. They are cooperating fully whereas now more than 40 years have in this a matter. We are nearing the solution elapsed. Through you, I would like, to know to this problem, which was pending for sev- whether the Government will accord imme- eral years as the hon. Member has said. We diate sanction to this proposal so that the hope that we will b9 able to reach an agree- 59 Oral AnSW91S APRil 20, 1992 Oral Answers 60 ment in the next meeti'19. The daSe for the Governments and we will try to see that next meeting was fixed on 26th. Due to some progress is made because they have unavoidable reasons this had to be shifted. not been able to make much headway by But we will hold this meeting as quickly as themselves in this matter. possible. I have every hope that we will be able to finality sort out this matter. [Translation] ( Translation] Power Projects SHRI RAM NAIK; Mr. Speaker, Sir, + among the project of Mahrashtra which have *66. SHRI ARJUN SINGH been refered here Gosikhud project falling in YADAV: the Vldharba region is the largest and the SHRI MOHAMMAD All oldest one. This project as taken over by the ASHRAF FArM': Central Govemment in the year 1983. The former Plime Minister, Shriamti Indira Gandhi Will the Minister of POWER AND NON- inaugurated it at that time. It was inaugu- CONVENTIONAl ENERGY SOURCES be rated forthe secon time by SIlri Rajiv Gandhi. pleased to state: This project invlsios an outlay of Rs. 372 SfATEMEJIT crores and it will, provide water to 25 laksh (a) whether the Central Electricity Au- hectare of land. Now when the Prime Minis- thority has assessed the working of power ter inaugurated this project we assumed that projects including the projects of Uttar the needful has been done, but it is not so. As Pradesh, Gujarat, Bihar and Orissa which such I want to know whether the Govem- are pending for want of approval by the ment would stick to the principle that as long Govemment; and as clearance is not given to a project from an quarters, no 'bhumi pujan" or inauguration (b) if SO, the details of observations will be made. made by NTPC for compliance in each case? SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Mr Speaker, Sir, so far as 'am concerned, I am (English) prepared to do so. THE MINISTER Of STATE Of THE [English] MINISTRY OF POWER AND NON-CON· VENTIONAl ENERGY SOURCES (SHRJ SHRI ANANTHA VENKATA REDDY: KALP NATH RAI): (a) and (b). A Statement Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Telugue Ganga Project is laid on the Table of the House. is pending for clearance with C.W.C. since eight years. May , know from the hon. Min- (a) Yes, Sir. ister the time the Government would take to clear this Telugu Ganga Project? (b) at present no proposals of the Na- tional Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKAl.A: This for settiflg up of power projects in Orrissa project was taken up with the three State and Gujarat are pending with the Central Govemment~But the three concerned Chtel Electricity AUthority. However, NTPC's pr0- Ministers wrote to us saying that rather than posal of Dadri Gas Basad Power Project the Central Govemment arbitrating and in- (Stage-II) (408 MW) and Farukhabad Gas tervening in this matter, the three chief Based Power Project (Stage-I) (800 MW) in Ministers wiD sort out this matter among U.P. are pending for confirmation of gas themselves. They have held so far three IiMages andotherclearanc::es. NTPC's North meetings in this regard. As· things stand Karanpura (Stage-I) (1 000 MW) in Bihar and today, they have not made rooch progress. Rihand (Stage-II) (1 000 MW) Super thermal We shall again writs to the three Slate Power Projects in U.P. are also awaiting