Tuesday, June 28, 1977 Asadha 7, 1899 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES

(Series)

v o l. m

[June 23 to July 4, 1977/Asadha 2 to 13, 1899 (Saks)]

Second Session, i *7 7 /i * 9J (Saka)

(Vol. I ll contains Nos. 11 to 20)

L O K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI CONTENTS

N o. 15, Tuesday, June 28, 1977jAsadha 7, 1899 (Saka) C o l u mn s Oral Answers to Questions:

•Starred Questions Nos. 224 to 226 • • • • • • 1—30

Short Notice Question No. 7 • • • • • • • 30—42

Written Answers to Questions:

Starred Questions Nos. 227 to 243 * • • . . • 43—61

Unstarred Questions Nos. 1963 to 2076 • • • • • 61— 160,

Papers laid on the T a b l e ...... • • • 161—65

Demands for Grants, 1977-78—

Ministry of Steel and Mines . . . . • • ■ 166—300

Shri A. C. G e o r g e ...... • • • 167—74

Prof. R. K. Am in...... • • • 175—84

Shri P. K. D e o ...... • • • 184—88

Shri Bapusaheb Parulekar • • • • • • • 188—93

Shri K. S. Veerabhadrappa • • • * . . . 193—98

Shri L. L. K a p o o r ...... • • • 198—204

Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Deo * * * • • ■ 204—206

Shri Gangadhar Appa Burande • • • . . . 206—13

Dr. Baldev P r a k a s h ...... • • • 213—18

Shri C. K. Chandrappan .... • • • 218—26

Chowdhry Balbir Singh .... • • • 326—30

Shri Pabitra Mohan Pradhan • • • • • • • 230—34

Shri T. A. P a i ...... • • • 234—45

Shri Bagun S u m b r u i...... * • *45—53

Shri Govinda M u n d a ...... * • • 253-56

. "The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the Quer ti°n was actually asked on the floor of the ffyw t by that Member, Co l u m n s Shri Saugata R o y ...... 256—61

Shri Ramchandra Mallick ■ ■ , . . , . 261—63

Shri Mohan Jain * *■•••••• 263—“70

Shri Phirangi Prasad • • • • . . * « ^70^-72

Shri Jyotirmoy B o s u ...... * . . 272—76

Shri S. K u n d u ...... 2^6—81

Shri Biju Patnaik...... I81—99 DEBATES V I 2 LOK &ABHA VWNt JWW *fWW : WRPft 15 w* % finrw *t 5* i t to w hr |, 78% infHtr *nT* Tuesday, June 28, 1977/A*adha 7, 1899 (Sflko) *hTTTO % *POT TO *S*t *tfft WT** m 3 W C f v m VK T# I ? The Lofc Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock sftj W| Ifffr : *faT w f t 3tTT 5f

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'lir f<:cr)i f1:r~;f11"<:.~+r'i~"<: ~~ ~ >;f-J'aT"<: ject was slowed. down, following the decision that the further implementa- ~ ~r~'Ii .'lirt.

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plant is concerned, it should be slowed wtfinfm : 4 * r # i r w f e r down and the results of other two cdel plants viz, at Talcher and Hama* w w nrwrr fa $ tfWf f n cundam may be seen as to whetAer vtniT, t w y w if a mw*r^ they result m proven technology and then only Korba project can be taken fwsr%wr^5i i969Jr*s

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~o ~~'qT~ qii~: iT~ 5PR SHRI SASANKASEKHAR SAN- YAL: Some years ago gobar gas was 'fiT ~. fif,<: ~1 m<1T I If.f mtO ~ used for domestic purpose the raw 'lfT fcp ctfT<:atJcpT cprl1 tf~~ 51T~~ €l:T material being cowdung and the waste ~Cf.f~ ~ ~'h:cpn:ST. ~crm Cf~ ~:;ff'fi~T is there after the consumption of cow- dung for that plant. Has the Govern- 'ifT ~cpT 'lfT ;a:~cpTor;:~ CP<:.~ ~~<:T .. m ment considered the desirability and "f% "f€l:t CPTl1 rn~ ~1 g~T ~T Cf~t feasibility of collecting this waste for 'S'T~~ CP<: Rm ~m, ~~ ~ tfT~ 'flfT USe as catalytic material in the gobar and other plants? cpr<:ur'lfT ? 'flfT ~~ ~ tfT~ CPT~<:T"f4-f(fcp cpT<:!Jf'lfT? ~~ lj- l1h

SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN: As I haVe said, I may inform , the .. hon. ~o ~~!Jf tf~~: 'q'~~ Member that no decision: to give up ..... l1~T~, if ~rtf cpT ~<:~Uf 'i:fT~ar ~ I the Korba project has been taken.' The only decision which has .been taken is +T<::fT~T~ cpT "fT'1'f.R:T ~<:T~l ~ aT that so' far as- the fertilizer projects ~~ ~ cpT Ofr~ lj- <:~ f~r "fT~ I based on gas which has been found in Bombay High or' in other places are "filf ~<:T"l"T'1cpT<:T~T"fT~ a~' "fCfTilf~ I' ' concerned, cthey' will be taken up, first. ~iZ 5f!!'1 mcrT<:!Jf' ~1 ~ I ;;H.,ilf~cp<: The Government will wait for .these , ," lTfcJ1:f5f~!!TcpT i?r.~'f<': cp<:i?r'fiT '1fr,c: ?I" other two- coal-based' plants to' prove themseives . first before taking a deci- ~iZ fCfilfT~1:fT~ I Cp<:T~T~tflfT Cf~t c~lf sion on whether this investment of ~T ~cpT ~T, "'3'~ 'fiT ~r<:T l1lITT<1'<:rq~t Rs. 200 crores on Korba project should also be made or not. ~~ <:~T ~, I cf.Tlr~t Cf~ cpfCfiTl1T<::fTlj- "'3'tf;;r"cr~ I CfiZt~ ~B''tf'lfHTIH CfiTzTffi' '~T g~ ~,Cfi'i9ifT~: cfT'(1'i:f~"~Tt (f;T~T

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SHRI -q,. V. SWAMINATHAN: What MR sP~AKER: I entirely agree. about other factories? But what can be done? I cannot ask him to answer a question in a parti- SHRI SHANTI BHlJSHAN: In other cular way, It is not in my hands. factories also, within the financial re- sources of the Government, we will s>;fT~~~t srltrT~ lfT~Cf: 'fiffl-

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Mj:'{. SPEAKE;R: I know what you ( ~ ) .lI'fG:iT, aT 3Ar~f&1.a~Nfff want. _ He cannot satisfy you .because 'fiT~ 'fiT CJ;<:T'fiJ:;:r~. f~ 1rn 5Tl!.mf'fig' you want him to answer. in a parti- rrir ~ .3Al.:: fS:::dT.~ 11~-G([<:f~Jt .~~ cular way, which naturally no Minister Can do. $ince the Demands' relating 'ifTf:'\lI'T.'fif ~Nfcn:rt 'fif 'Ii J; ~T<:' to this ~igjs:try are going' jo coine up, certainly that would be a better time to raise it when you can expect to g~t (iT)"VifT ~'1 -;'fi.ll'q.r[urr -WI ~T- more information. ;;;rfcr11~·f~t1f .~ ~~ :a-.~jt ~~ ~_tr "lTff l1<:VIT'1 fG:'lfT 'IlIT~f'fi -f.G:t"#f it ~ i1~ P..ft ~ ~~ lf~ : sr~ ~T 11'::~ro&1a cF'rcr ~<:T~; ~T~ lI'r~ €?:T, it .:~t!1~ ~ ~1f ~ ~, ~. 'fiT ~r Gf~ ffT ~:&,cmt~wr fflT q'G:Nfa ~~fW'ff 'ti"{ ~, ~ .I ::.. ""l- ~? ~ ~ ~.Jfi{ '{l W 't\Trn .~ .

MR. .~~AK·ER:· 1- know ;Y0\l are THE MINISTER OF LAW, J.uS,T,ICE agitated, ~u.twhat can. Jhe p90f AND COMPANY i AFFAIRS: ~(~mR,I Speaker do? '. ", .r SHANTI BlrusHANi: '(air-Yes, Sir .:

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4 «**qp» **fc»« «vfr « t u t 1 4ft | i f •r^r *. 14f9 (SAKA) Oral Answer* aa SHJtl L. K. DOLKY- The hon. Min- ister fcas m « f e a wapitionv. about the ara f t rar?> question of efflWenp^wMe Judeng the a $ t f f t ia t % ara1 ^ rr fsna> a f merits of the Scheduled Caste and a rw r i w w i t % Scheduled Tribe candidates in the matter of recruitment in erder to fill vrvrnff *t t bt t t ^ %■ a^na a f up the vacancies or for promotions. aTfHT ?TW VPPTT^ ^Nfpir TfW In view of that, may I know Whether i the board* which are examining the efficiency of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribe candidates are repre- w ?a% vr sented by the members of fh ' Sche- duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes? sa% aft t aiaarrft srr^r ^ # vlftm V’FTT i SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN- The de- partmental promotion committees are constituted according to the rules SHRI B. RACHAIAH; I would like They have to examine and see as to t0 know what type of programme this whether suitable persons are available Ministry wants to follow to All up the If suitable persons are available, even backlog in the promotion quota I though there might be superior persons would like to have a categorical state- available from oth*r general categories, ment liom the Minister. The Chair- within the quotas, the posts are given man of the Hindu Mahasabha has to the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled made a statement in the Press that all Tribes persons reservations in favour of the SC&ST candidates m the State Assemblies, in Parliament and in the Government •ft ftiw a ir w r www *Tftor, services should be done away with. fasr aro ffr rft vn vrr *rcrr wta | i What is the reaction of the Govern- ment to this7 Jrft srf *n3?rc ft sntfsn $ ft? a f ^ V lfm «PT % fawft WTVTT * SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN The Government does not agree with tL. HTfSf VTT'Tnff ^ VTA | ^ at all. WTfar g fa atrrctflr * r f lb s t t it ffrwat vt $rr wnwrraa fa inlff : ITFWSt f* *** ^ 1 # ** tfto «fto $ o mk€t fa?nft fawrcr v rm f i 5^ ilh ^ ftwn vtsr y«r faar | ? nwtr fiwnaa aia | fa*tfraft% fa aaifaw n tft nlftr’iw : v s a

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WrWT UiT W IVPW IHWWvRr % WUFT % 'sW , * WWWT W*fT WT f t ▼frft & 3% **mr *foia **r 2 0 0 0 *• 2 0 0 *ftr 3 0 0 *• *nn % ,wtww#% fw rjw snnwwft *n»qT* wi% w m t i *vWf «tfl*rr wr|fr f 1 %ft*r %rr W w 8fnc SHRI SAMAR <3UHA; w t k f^TT 1 5m jww iftniw - SHRIMATI * KENUKA DEVI Vl^itm % fta ft wtAiv % nflNfiftwf BARKATAXI : t it qtftwfa % ***** Sf- * rr — qndwfir SHRI KANWARLAL GUPTA. IWWjftW WR^f^lWIW^IVT wnw ^ m i the 'm M to t of EDUCATION. t — %*w**ra*ffcr, «WTf«iftftvw %ftt SOCIAL WRLFARE AND CULTURE ctTWT wWwWW ivfic I WfT WfT be pleased to state; ^-v r e n r fw s t f r MTfafiifriw tit (*) trbeitaqr the Time CapnU*. cl

ft a * fc, Hiytovy buried at the Red Fort ww i w » 1 *ftw Wft ?w certain* -mmpy « n v e hieterkoal errors; p M « 4

d ) Hi* Q q v m m m art nt is also true Jhaft the aw e of Dr. <^mtempl*tlng «ny action in (hi* Rajendra Prasad has not been men- roster? tioned, nor there i« a mention of the names of Shri Rajagopalachari, Lai *HE MINISTER OF EDUCATION1, Bahadur Shastri or Netaji Subhash SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Chandra Bose. (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) The 10,000 word account When the original Time Capsule is of important aspects of History of taken out, a oopy of that may he cir- India both in Hindi and English, from culated among the Members. 15-8-1947 to 15-8-1972 contains cer- tain factual errors, DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: What is the statutory backing o i keep- (b) The Government have decided ing it secret? that the Silver Jubilee Independence Celebration Time Capsule may be DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- taken out and the contents made DER: J do not know of any statutory public. backing. DR. SUBRAMANIAM SW AMY: DR SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: I Does the Minister know that there are would like to ask the Minister ques- many other Time Capsules buried in tions on the basis of the examination various parts of Delhi.—One is in of the evidence that is available with Shanti Van—-Nehru's Samadhi and him Is it a fact that only seven these Time Capsules also contain some names have been mentioned which

are of significant value to the Indian grevious errors about Indian History from 1964 to 1972. History for 1947 and of these seven, there are three foreigners who play- DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ed a role in the U.N. Operations in DER: Actually there are three time Kashmir and names of Dr Rajendra capsules. One I have already men- Prasad, the First President of India, tioned. Another is Nehru capsule. It Shri Rajagopalachari, the first Gover- was embedded on 27th May 1972 at nor General of India, have been omit- Shantivan. It contained some writ- ted from the contents? Consequently, ings. As far as those writings are I would like to ask him, why was the concerned we do not have any copy Ministry of Education so keen to keep whatsoever. So, unless that is dug this secret? Is there any statutory out we do npt know what is contain- backing for that? ed there. But this much We know from our record maintained in the DR PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ministry that international and natio- DER- The Ministry of Education has nal events Since 1964 upto the 8th an- in its possession some document which niversary of Jawaharlal Nehru's death purports to be a « W of the original. are recorded there both in Hindi and I cannot say whether it i8 an exact English There is another time cap- copy, unless the Time Capsule is sule, Gandhi capsule, and the date taken out and this copy is compare^ her« is 30th January, 1973, The place with the original. I cannot say whe- of burial is Gandhi Smriti. It con- ther a oopy maintained with the Min- tains no text whatsoever. istry is exactly a copy of the original Time Capsule. DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: Will you dig them up in view of the It is truer that only seven names are errors of the first oner ’ mentioned and of these seven. 4feree are foreigners—MacN aughfon, Owen DR. PRATA? CHANPSjlA. CflUN- Dixon, Graham. DER: I might respectfuHy sufbmit that 35 Oral Am wm A&AJDHA 7, MW (SAKA) Oral 4nsw*rs

Mf Nahru oapsnfc contain*# s q ^ w ^t. Uu*

DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- not in the habit of putting questions DER- I have no information on this after having talked to the government at the moment This is their method of doing parlia- mentary work I am also a reader of SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA parliamentary recorda I may tell Mr Sxr the hon Minister was pleased to Reddy instead of wasting his time do- say that the task was entrusted to the ing other things he mav go through caie of the Indian Council of Historical the parliamentary records Mr E»a Research One can assume that the Sezhiyan m November 1973 placed on Indian Council of Historical Research the Table of the House a copy which must have constituted a panel foi it he had obtained In that copy th*» We do know that a panel was consti- entire facts arp given I had onlv tuted for the purpose 1 ut at the mo- asked as to what had been stated in ment the Minister m not m a position that discussion is a fact or not to give the n«ame& of the membeis of the panel Mv second point is whe- SH R I SAMAR GUHA Sir I rise on ther there wa«s any committee consti- a point o£ order A \erv important quest irn has been rai^ea about the tuted to edit the historv prepared by bonafides of a member of this House the Indian Council of Historical Re- Sir a member has ever> right to quote firch Fuithei whether the Cabinet from anv report Without disclosing ilso appointed a committee to go into the source of the report it is the (he matter because it wak Sat ha hi«fton to write a history *in 1 whether lhat before the information was given this could Vie completely insulated from to this House Mr Subramamam anv nolitical background’ Swamy has given the information that the names of Dr Raiendra Prasad and DR PRVTAP CHANDRA CHUN- Sim C Rajagop lartnri are not there DFP As I

iftr *nr ^ froraft St ftror After of thg other House in eavmxltatioa **info»n ’ im tW f with the Deputy-Clairman of the Rajjr* Sabha, if we have at Joint Committee ftorr 3rrq*rr, t o to supervise the operation of the dig- *rri star fan | ? aft wnrit to% f*PJ ging out under proper direction, we X hav© no objection t, frp$t* JT5 wm firm f ’TT fa*r f w arr^TT iftr #*ft»r*mr*ftqr$r*S$tr$jrT • jftrr *reft *Tftatr TO *Jlliq Vt p ft^K *?t f t t fs r forr t o | ? fV is w»rar 1973 *ft m *r faSr *

DR PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER Sir as far as I am informed *rr*f) * ’pnrnr * r t |trr aft sw itar about Rs 30 000 were 9pent for the t TOrt *ft fh 7 purpose of putting the capsule m and to take xt out, nearly that amount 27 v f, 1972 wrt vnftrrr % fftr would be spent (Interruptions) 30 T O « r t t , 1973 »Ft fttm fr AN HON MEMBER The question n ft ?rr$ * s e tfa r w i t m t , has not been replied fully w r »ft ^ prrfr^ 7

DR PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ftw tft*ff *r t o s*?rr*aff *?t t o r t DER It is not so easy because I saw the specification also It is contained t sfrt tft ftrqM % «f?r in a Hume Pipe below 40 ft and there t , w arrt *r fr is a concrete base Embedded In tbe concrete base there is a steel capsule Inside this steel capsule, there is 3 copper capsule it i8 a great engmeei ing feat 1o take it out It is not an DR PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ordinan job DER I have already answered this question

# f t w • t o * fin? SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHATUR- faw tarr wfoft % fa it w r u w r f w VLDI flay I know what are the con- sn^nr, tovt ^rarR »r$t f^rr w r $ i tents of the capsule buried in Rajghat? DR PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DR PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DI3R There is a long list containing DER Let us see first what is written 20 entries If you permit I can place in that it on

SHRI K MALLANNA It has been MR SPEAKER Yes, you can do so. decided to dig out the capsule May I know from the hon Minister whether List of Contents of Gandh* Time the Gc\ernmon+ is thinking of consti* Capsule tuting anv Parliamentary Committee to probe mto this matter’ 1 One bronze casting plate medaL. lion type each of Gandhiji and MR SPEAKER This question was Kasturba from special plaster already asked casts prepared by Shri Shanko DR PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- Chaudhury DER When the capsule is taken out if you wish to appoint a Committee 2 Bronze casting of the bust of consisting of Members of this House Gandhiji 41 Oral Answers ASADHA 7, }**9 (SAKA) Oral Answers

3 A special copper etching of (g) Dr Rajendra Prasad’s Tribute Gandhiji and Kasturba together to Gandhiji in the Constituent Assembly on the night of 14th 4 Copper medallion of Gandhiji August, 194? 3” dia with “Truth is God” v inscribed on the reverse SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU The growth of the site of the regiment of 5 14 copper plates on which have sychophants and the induction of been etched the tributes paid to dynastic rule go side by side, you can- Gandhiji by various world not separate the two (Interruptions) personalities I should like to know If Dr Gopal son of such an eminent person I do not 6 A set of nine Gandhi coins issued want to name him on the floor of the on the occasion of Gandhiji’s House Birth Centenary AN HON MEMBER Dr S Radha 7 Gandhi Stamps knshnan B A Gandhi cap MR SPEAKER All of us know, he > A strand of handspun yam is the son of Dr Radbakrishnan ) A khaddar Tricolour flag with Charkha SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Is Dr. Gopal holding any government or 1 Microfilms of My Experiments government sponsored appointment with Truth” and “All Men are at the present moment’ Brothers ’ ’ The Last Journey m 16 mm Secondly will the hon Education Mimster kindly tell us who had initiat- 1 Four copper stampings Voice ed the move on the file what were the Records’ containing the follow- guidelines given and who finally ing — approved of it7 When this capsule is going to be unearthed will they have (a) Gandhiji’s speech at the Asian police guards to protect those things’ Relations Conference (includ- ing Smt Sarojini Naidu’s DR PRATAP CHANDRA opening remarks beginning CHUNDER Whenever Mr Bosu is on with and now )—English his legs I shake in my shoes Even (b) Gandhiji’s spiritual message— then I might say that Dr Gopal is English now on the executive board of UNESCO m Paris and he Is also connected with (c) Gandhiji’s remarks after the Indian Council of Historical Research Bomb explosion (including As regards the police guard proper sound of the bombK (date steps will certainly be taken 20-1-1848) SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU What (d) Gandhiji on “Jatiya gkta” about the orders on file7 (Interrup- (14-1-1948) tions)

WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUES- block loads and such loads TIONS are escorted throughout the run Proposal to ensure Safety in Trains and to curb Thefts (ui) Intelligence efforts to identify the receivers of the railway *4.27 SHRI \I N GOVINDAN NAIR stolen property have been Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be mt*nsihed and laids are fre- pleased to state quently organised for the re- covery ot such stolen property (a) vihat steps Government propose to take to ensuie safety in the lim- (iv) lo n ^ n t efforts are made to ning of trams, bool the known railway criminals under different pro. (.b) whether Government have visions of law taken step1- to curb the lailway thefts parUculaily in the goods trams and (v Close liaison is being maintain ed witn thp State Police tc) if so the salient featuies there- authon les o curb the activ - of’ ties of criminals operating on the railways, THF MINISTER FOR RAILWAYS (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (vi) Investigation of crimes coming (a) Maintenance of law and order £0 notice are pursued vigorous- being a state subject, protection of ly person and property of passengers not (vii) The system of localisation of booked with the Railways, is the crime has been revised and responsibility of the State Govt The constant efforts are made to Railway Administration have to seek identify the bad spots and help of the State Governments for organise effective security in better control of crime against person areas concerned and property of passengers This is b°mg done bv maintaining close co- (viii) Greater use is being made of oper ition with state authorities cons- the Dog squads maintained tantly it different levels and by ex- bj the Railway Protection tending whatever assistance is sought Force for patrolling the mar- by them shallmg yards The State Government are taking necessary steps to control such cnme by escoiting important trains at night Observations made by the Director ot posing of regular beat patrols at the Central Drug Research Institute station platforms waiting halls keep- ing surveillance over cnmmals and *228 SHRI M KALYANASUNDA- by \ anous other measures RAM Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND CHEMICALS ANQ (b) Yes FERTILIZERS be pleased to state fc) Salient features oi the steps taken to curb thefts particularly in (a) whether Government's atten- goods trains are tion has been drawn to the observe tions made by Dr Nitya Nand (i) Supervision on the security of Director, Central Drug Research In- wagons in the yards has been stitute Lucknow whi1e giving the intensified, Second General S S Sokhey Memo rial Lecture on the challenges fac- (ii) Efforts are made to move ing the Indian Pharmaceutical in- vulnerable commodities in dustry, and Wntten Answers ASADHA 7, 1899 {SAKA) Written Answers 46

(b) if so, the facts thereof and (c) the average number of passen- Government’s reaction thereto* gers travelling by the said trains daily,

THE MINISTER OP PETROLEUM, (d) whether there is any proposal CHEMJCALg AND FERTILIZERS under examination for a regular ad- (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) and ditional fabt tram from Ahmedabad (I?) In his lecture Dr Nitja Nand has to Bombay and vice veisa for the stated that the Fharmaceutical ln«us- overnight journey, and ti v as compared to most of the other (c) ,f >0 brodd featuies theieof’ consumer industries has two very special features viz <1) that it is veiy THE MINISTER OF RAIIWAYS highly technology based and (U) that (PROF MADHU DANDAVA1E) (a> it has strong social relevance being A total of *6 pairs of special trains intimately connected with the‘health were runmg between Bombay I enltal of the people He has al&o made some Ahmedabad duung April to June. observations on the challenges facing 1977 the drug industry like maximibing indigenous production ot essential bulk (b) These trains have been fairly drugs and formulations bringing down well occupied the drug prices to the lowest possible level, abolishing the use of brand (c) The average accommodation names, making arrangements to en provided and the aveiage originating sure that household and common re- occupation were 86 and 36 in first and medies are made available m rural 700 and 498 m second class respective- areas particularly in relatively inacces- ly sible regions evolving a clear cut (d) No, Sir policy in regard to import of techno- logy and restricting the import of bulk (e) Does not irise drugs. Most of the observations and suggestions made by him have been Judicial Reforms dealt wi*h bj thp Hathi Committee also m their report on the Drugs and *2 iO SHRI P K KODIYAN Will Pharmaceutical industry The report the Minister of I AW, JUSTICE AND of the Hathi Committee is under consi- COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to deration and an early decision is ex- state pected to be taken (a) whether Government have decided to bring some judicial re- forms, and Extra trains operating between (b) if so, the sa’ient features there- Ahmedabad and Bombay of’

•229 PROF P G MAVALANKAR THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE Will the Minister of RAILWAYS AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SIII?[ pleased to state SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) and (b) With a view to reducing arrears and (a) the number of extra trams give speedier justice the following steps operated between Ahmedabad and are being taken by Government — Bombay during the months of April. (i/ the existing vacancies in High May and June, 1977 to clear the summer vacation and holiday rush of Courts are proposed to be travellers, filled up expeditiously (ii) wherever necessary, the Judge (b) whether the said trains had strength of the High Courts been^ running completely packed; will be increased 4? WtNw Answers JUNE 28, 1977 Written Answer* 48

It has stated in the President’s 3 Hindustan Petroleum Corporation address that a comprehensive measure Limited Is to be brought before Parliament to The recently acquired Caltex amend the Constitution This will Oil Refilling (India) Limited is take Into account aspects of iudicial proposed to be merged with Hindus- administration contained in the 42nd tan Petroleum Corporation Limited, 'Amendment Policies regarding judi- and the Assam Oil Company Limited cial reforms will worked out In 1he after its takeover, is proposed to be light of that comprehensive measure merged with'sBharat Refineries Limit- ed The Madras Refineries limited and the Cochin Refineries Limited Kleetrtoal Reforms would continue as separate refining companies and the marketing of their *231 SHRI CHITTA BASU Will product through the Indian OU Cor- the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND poration will continue as at piesent COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to The marketing of petroleum oroducts state through the Indo Burma Petroleum (a) whether Government have any Company Limited would also continue for the present proposal for introducing electoral re- forms, and New* regarding Mutton poll&r Pay- offs for Cochin Refinery fb) if so the salient features of the proposal? •233 SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK THE MINISTER OP LAW JUSTICE SHRI HARI VISHNU KA- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI MATH SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) and (b) The matter is being examined Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI ZERS be pleased to state Restructuring of Indian oil Companies (a) whether Government are aware of the Dress reports to the ‘Indiar *232 SHRI K LAKKAPPA Will Express” dated the 10th May, 1977 the Minister of PETROL* UM AND wherein it has been stated Revela CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS he tions before a grand jury in the United pleased to state States last September and earlier cis- dosures pressed tor by the U S Secur- (a) whether his Ministry is taking rities Exchange Commission have any iteps for restructuring if the brought to the light the possibilities eight Indian companies m the Held of of million dollar pay-offs to Indian refining and distribution of petroleum nationals in connection with the ncgo products and tiation and construction of the Cochin Refinery in the Sixties,” (b) if so the mam features thereof? (b) whether this matter has also THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, been criticised by the Estimates Com- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS mittee of Lok Sabha sometime earlier (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) in its report, and (a) Yes, Sir (c) whether Government have since (b) For the present a three company inquired into the matter? set up has been proposed with the three major oil companies as follows THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND F1SRTILIZRRS 1 Indian Oil Corporation Limited (SHRI H. M. BAHUOUMA). (a) to (e). 2 Bharat Refineries Limited Yes Sir The Federal Grand Jury in j f f Written Answer* ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

Tulsa, Oklahoma, U.S.A had conduct- Practices Act m which Philips India «d investigations an Tax Law viola- Limited was one of the parties. Two tion* by the Phillips Petroleum of these enquiries have been finally Company ot U SA. In their Indict, disposed of and the remaining four ment filed in the U S District Court, are still pending Since institution the Grand Jury have indicated Phillips of these enquiries the following two Petroleum Company and some of its expansion proposals of Philips India executive on seven counts Some of Ltd, have been approved by the G ov . these relate to the Company's failure emment under the MRTF A c t - to show in its tax returns, money received from Cochin Refineries Limit- (i) Expansion in the manufacture ed, in India as Techical Services Fee of Diamond Drawing Dies There is no mention in the Indictment from 80G pieces per annum 10 of any possibilities of million dollar 5,000 pieces per annum to pay-Offg to Indian nationals in connc- meet growing domestic demand tion with the negotiations and constru- and to reduce imports, and tioQ of Cochin Refinery in the sixties (II) EstaElishment of a new under- There is no mention in the 5tith taking for manufacture at Report of the Estimates Committee m 15 lakh Nos per annum or this regard Voltage level Indicators, en- tirely for exports

Government are taking steps to “Reorganisation of the OH and collect further information after Natural Gas Commission . obtaining which the question of taking any further action will be decided •235 SHRI BAMANAND TIWARY. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS Ptailps Company be pleased to stale

•234 SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI (a) whether Government proposes SHNAN Will the Minister of I AW, to reorganise the present set uu ci ihe JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFA'RS Oil and Natural Gas Commission qnfl be pleased to state (b) if so the main features thereof’ (a) whether Government hare le cided to give permission to Ph 1 ps THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Company to expand in spite of an en CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS quiry going on against that Company, (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) and and (b) After a careful consideration of all aspects of the matter including the (b) if so, the salient features there- recommendations of the Malaviya Com of'* mittee regarding the re organisation and strengthening of the Oil and Na- THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE tural Gas Commission, Government AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI have inter alia taken the following SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) and (b) decisions —

The Monopolies and Restrictive Trade (i) In order to identify the func- Practices Commissien instituted sot tional responsibilities of the enquiries either sito m oto or on the Members of the Commission, swmts ot Registrar, Restrictive Trade the post of Member (Offshore) Ajpwsmaots in regard to the alleged be converted into that of Mem- restrictive trade practices under Jb* ber (Exploration) with over- Monopolies and Restrictive Trade all responsibility for explora- 51 Written Answers JUNE 28, 1977 Written Answers

tion activities both onshore tfv) In order to improve the scientL and offshore Similarly, the flc and technological capabili- post Of Member (Onshore) be ties of the Commission and to converter! into that ol Membei provide for high level atten (Pioductum) with overall res tion the Institute of Petroleum ponsibility fo all activities Exploration at Dehi * Dun conct rni \ production and woul i now be the c ^rect transportation ut crude o 1 lesponsibility of Member ctc for ^olh onshore and (Expln lticn) Sirmluuv the oflsnoK o e atiot s Ihe port two Institutes of Dulling folio of \ n tint on which Technology and Reservoir has hlthe to not been the re& Studies being set up by the pot sibilitv o£ any Membei ONGt 1 Tehia Dun and will now bf» ma ie a P 'it oi the Ahmedabad respectively would charge of Menu e” (Materials) be the 1 espon'abilitj of Mem- ard hp vu'l be designated btr (Pioduction) Meuuu

(a; whether Government has a pro. have introduced recently for the benefit posal to allow private sector to invest of foreign tourists? in the proposed new fertilizer plants; and THE MINISTER FOR RAILWAYS. (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) (b) if so the facts and reasons Yes, Sir. therefor’ (b) A statement 011 the subject is ^placed on the Table of tne Sabha. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM* CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS Statement (SHRI II N BA1IUGUNA) (d) and A Scheme of “1 ravel as you like" (b) Undei the e\istmg industrial tickets was introduced m September, policy of the Government, fertilize! 1975 permitting unlimited travel for 21 industry has been placed m the core days on Indian Railways, rhese sector lor purposes of licensing and is open to the pm ate sectoi also Any tickets could be issued only to foreign toutf1 sts/non-resfdent Indians holding proposals fiom the puvi\te sectoi to valid wssot-rU and pajing in foreign invest m the new fertilizer plants, will excha’i.je They were not valid on Ra1* be considered, on tneir merits dham Expre^ trams Fares fixed were. US % 200 for Air-conditioned Class, 'i 80 for First Class/A.C. Reservation for Foreign Tourists hold- Chair Car and $ 25 foi Second Clas*. To further encourage loreign tourist ing “Indrail Pass” Tickets travel and boost up foreign exchange earnings, an improved version of the •238 SHRI K. MALLANNA earlier scheme has been introduced SHRI MEETHA LAL PATEL. from 1st June, 1077 wherein such tic- kets are available for validity periods Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be langing Trom 7 to 90 days. Nomen- pleased to state clature of these tickets has been chang- < ed to ‘ INDRAIL PASS” on the lines (a) whether Rtuhvays have streamlin- of similar Schemes introduced on ed arrangements to ' enable foreign European and British Railways known tourists and non-resident Indians to as “EURAIL PASS” and ‘BRITRAIL get reservations within the period of PASS” . validity of “Indrail pass ticket” , and (b) if so, the salient features re- 2. “INDRAIL PASS” fares are a* garding this new system the Railways follows.---

Fares (m US Dollarsj Period of validity Air Con- First Second ditioncd Class/A.C. Class Class Chair Car

7 days...... 70 35 12 15 days...... 100 50 17 ai days ...... i<5 63 21 30 days...... 150 75 25 60 days...... 220 110 37 90 days...... 260 X30 45 Children between 3—12 years pay half the fare rounded of to the nearest dollar. 5^ Written Answers j u n k f t , wrr Written Answers 3$ 3 As m the past, these tickets are in U S Dollars of Pound Sterling being sold only to foreign nationals only Par other foreign currencies, a s well as Indians residing abroad the tourist has to encash the requisite holding valid passports Payments amount into rupee with an authoris- has to be made in foreign exchange. ed dealer and then pay in rupees These tickets are available for sale at along with "Encashment Certificate”. the following places — 1 Railway Tourist Guide, West- 6 Witn the introduction of ‘ Indrail ern Bailway, Churchgate, Pass” schema, all other concessions to Bombay foreign tourists stand withdrawn, such as students' concession, hill con- 2 Railway Tourist Guide, Cen- cessions, circular tour tickets, etc tral Railway, Bombay V T

3 Railway Tourist Guide, Eastern 7 Regarding streamlining of reser- Railway, Fairlie Place, Cal- vation arrangements for holders of cutta “Indrail Pass”, they are permitted to make sdvai.ee reservation upto one 4 Central Reservation Office year before the date of departure of South Eastern Railway, Espla- nade Mansions, Calcutta the tram as against six months per- mitted to other passengexs Quotas 5 Central Reservation Office, have been earmarked for foreign Southern Railway, Madras tourists at important stations on selec- Central, Madras ted trains which can also be availed by “Indrail Pass” holders Besides, 6 Railway Tourist Guide North- Railway Tourist Guides have been ern Railway, Raroda House, posted at Bombay V T , Churchgate New Delhi (Bombay), Fairhe Plate (Calcutta) Baroda House (New Delhi) and Besides, they can be sold by recog- Kathgodaxn station for giving guid- nised Railway Travel Agents holding ance to tourists The Indrail Pass restricted money changei s licence holder can approach them not only from Reserve Bank of India for assistance in obtaining reseiva4ion but also for getting suitable itineraries 4 INDRAIL PASS entitles the rrepjr* 3 Bes des instructions htve bolder to travel within the period of been given for accommoddtmj foreign validity by all trains including Raj- tourists against unutilised H OR dham Express trains, os and when he quota whertver feasible Thio will likes No separate charge is payable also apply to holders of Indrail Pass for meals on Rajdhani Exp) ess trains as Rujdbam far* is inclusive of meal charges Besides, no sleeper sui charge 8 Recognised tourist agents of or supplementary charge for travel Railways have been extended the by Superfast trains is payable bj hol- facility of sending reply-paid tele- ders of “INDRAIL PASS" The period grams direct to the concernpd Reser- Of validity is reclamed from the date vation Offices upto one year m ad- of commencement of fast journey and vance for reservation of foreign tourist upto the mid-mght of the date on groups Only the total number of which the validity expires No re- berths ceat* required the ticktt fund of fares on partially used numbers reed be given in this tele- “ INDRAIL PASS” or for tiavel in gram, which must be replied by re- lower class of accommodation is per- servation offices within 48 hours of the missible receipt Details of the names, natio- nality, etc of tfce individual tourists 5 Payment in railway offices for can be advised upto 10 days before purchase of Indrail Pass is accepted commencement of the journey WntUn Answer* ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers $8

Writ Ah IM o b dir iim lni 48nd traffic offers, Railways are geared to Amenitttat «f th® M ttM ltoa step up number of specials to 1200

*239 SHRI R K MHALGI Will the (b) and (c) Special care has been Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND taken to provide necessary amenities COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to m the summer specials and at inter- state mediate stations lor the convenience of passengers Based on this year's (a) whether a notice has been experience further improvement in served upon the Union Government arrangements If found necessary will by Supreme Court in respect of the be made in future writ application challenging the 42nd Constitutional Amendment; and (b) whether the Union Government urff ^ «wt*rflr has submitted its 'say* to Supreme Court, if so, when and if not, when it shall be submitted? * 2 4 i y m t *rr fcnrcft us f r t h e Mi n i s t e r o f l a w j u s t i c e AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) Yes, Su («p ) *rrrt *ppt t fvgpft $ f t % (b) No, Sir The affidavits m oppo- sition are expected to be filed by the sftr qfrsmnr jtt Pr r t 20th July 1977 the dade fixed there- for by the Supreme Court

(<*) « T X* TTTt 37- Special Trains for Clearing 8umm#r qftftraT «rrt v K nw taq fam mmi Rush | *r, aftrr w r

•240 SHRI S R DAMANI Will the Minister ot RAILWAYS be pleased to state (*T) TOT T O R WTT f w r (a) the broad outlines of pro- wwn *rt afnqr ^ *rr I ? gramme for running special trains to dear this year's summer rush on the Indian Railways, (b) the reasons tor not providing normal passenger amenities on these trains, and (jp) 3 1 -3 -1 9 7 6 'flTOffa ^TT

fNftepr % firq tsrt fafosn TTWT % WT& *fT3Z w fw r fC T fjttt f t *ncfr11 JTfsfafr^r n&tft $ foratfr JPntf $rt soo faotffo fo&r *ft ’srra' fta: *n? tmT |, sr«nr % | fa foftsm *m * t 3

wnr % m Ot ?nfrsTT *Ft ^tt Tit (ii) ?rm ft m^ren t • ?r?«lT?lt % fasrTsff -3»T P R srt ?TT^T ?TT^sft (rqi^gr ^ft JjfasrT ^t m*r ^st OTsff cT^T S W H tn ftft a r d :w w t^ f qr wt *fk iSfgrsp itt^t •=?Tnift TTfft ^

(*j) qf? ?T, eft BWrarcfr *TW (iii) *rRi^ % foft ^ ^ ^ / *1# *TOT £ ' WTFTjT |ft ^n% | T^^TT *£sfRT ^ ?n% ■3n% srrf^Rft wt % %q r * *H t (srto i * * i ) ( * ) ?T*r*nT 270 f^rsf«t nTf^trr ^rr^r ^t tfk (??) ^ f^rcr ^nrr^K f*5R«T 1RT\ '*TF STTTT vft

»t ^ft ?PJ> % *t*ff % *T?fRt $ *?mt *> n , >*rr ?m N^rPpfr ?wr New Railway Line connecting **Nrffr sfrr •sn% arr% sft*ft ®r f^rq Kursclla-Nababganj, Phulkaha via fq^fM srH »i^mfr s^ wt t ^ Rupanli.Bhawanipnr »pfV £ — ^243 SHRI L L KAPOOR* Will the (i) rr*T *r4t *CTRT % ^ ^ Minister of RAILWAYS be pleated U> wnyjfnc *1 #

(a) -whether no railway line con- (b) Yes, Sir necting Kursella and Nababganj, Phulkaha via Rupanli-Bhawanipur- (c) The report of Managing Director, Dhamdaha-Ranmantoli exists; and Bird and Company I united is under examination (b) whether Government propose to lay this railway line to enable the larmeiB and poor people to improve their lot and for the transportation of jute to Calcutta’ m t « wisrt *

BUd and Company, Calcutta (wr) qrtift =snr % f z w s f t *r 'ftw tftaT- 1963 SHRI PURNA SINTLA Will the spfr sw

(a) whether Government, have re- («r) qff ?t fft wm v w r ceived a report fiom Shri J G Kumarmangalan Managing Director, I srtr Bird company, Calcutta recom- mending action against Shri Pran Prasad woo \\ds Chairman of the ( n ) 5TTTT wmi-rr TOT tftaT- Bird-Hcilgers group of Companies 5f?fr ft W T T T3T ^TT ft 3TT!pft 7 up to 1972 and acquired for himself and his family all the assets of the Heilgers sub-group of companies qarl (srb ( * ) £ „ aggregating about Rupees ten crores In value, (? t ) f ^ f t faw 5T*T3r *FTPft*ft ^ ^ r 898 *r (b) -whether the attention of Gov- § ST? TO JS8 «T^*MBr5nr ernment has been drawn to the new* item entitled ‘ Bud irregulauties Re- TT5T f t g-Tnfr ^fr % iTOftr&Tt ported to CLB” appealing in the ^ fair JTHTTifw «tpt rfg m ft i s ta Business Standard of Calcutta m its T O T t *T SPMT-SFPT 9TST f t efg*T issue dated the 1st June, 1977 and qv fcfa w TPbOT t mwTT wr m (c) whethei the Government pro- qft wrfaar ^ spsrrcft sit Tift % » pose to hold an e^quirv for the pur- *CT7[ «TT TT aFTpT pose of taking action undei the Com- panies Act’ fTT^T f I ’BRT 303 *[fsTa> % f*Plfar *T smrrtft rrq^Rt *r THE MINISTER OF LAW JUSTICE grrfirgr fa»n 'snfcrr i »r«r i i i fwreft AND COMPANY / FFAIR’S (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) Yes, Sir. % W ? TT W 7WT2T 3TT% TJ JTRTTT^ I «3 Written Answers JUNE 28, 1977 Written Answers

vtar w* wit n r n THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (PROF. MAUHU DANDAVATE). (a) No. 1965. tfy tflfo %• m s i : *wr (b) Ye* fc«r ir?Rr iif snrft frr fa (e) Sufficient capacity is available lr ar*V ^rsrr^rfasFT with tite existing form ol traction bet- % snt % ifrapn % qtrafarnr ween Kriahnanagar City and Berham. *r f^rft sr*r^r ^ | pore Court to cope with the anticipated increase in traffic in the foreseeable *w ftnarrf arrarit ? future Investment on electric trae- tion on this section therefore, is not financially justified. to *W (srto *nj iw n ) : ^ r % awt *r vfeT *frr «r5r^n: % ^r# t o f3rw%%1^ ^ X STftro * fat? w t w * gfiranfl ^ t w w |

(v ) w r y n m j * arrow* t k Extension of Electric Traetton ufte vnrvtf wi* vrfwrfaif lit Berhampore (Eastern Railway) w c ?wr ^farerrqf ^ vr HFTRr | ft flTPNft W* Hfr- (’rn'Trfw) 1966. SHRI SASANKASEKHAR SANYAL. Will the Minister of RAIL- WAYS be pleased to stute *5«RffW<.W #3T *T ^TCT'Rfr we wnfWndsr *r^rr (a) whether electric traction lor twt %frc Hallways which now exists between Sealdah and Krishnagar on the Seal- dah-Lalgola Section of the Eastern (sr) ^rararw srewr % >p*f- Railway is proposed to be extended *nfafr ^ finrtt ?nsrr TFft *gfanif further North at least upto Berham- ^mssr jto # arrfcfr art ft? pore Court Station—headquarters town of the district of Murshidabad— to start with, ■tft vpsjWft % ?r*fW ®f*t *rNf $ tg

(b) whether he is aware that public lr * f a r | ? demand m this behalf is pending with the Government for quite a long ^ # (Sl« w )s(*> time; and afir 1 $ I

(c) what are the difficulties in the («r) «fr

benefit for the period 1-4-56 to 30-6-61 whereafter he retired from service

Against this post in grade 205—280 (AS), another employee was promoted Pharmacists worklaf at Laekooff w e f 3-3-65 after passing the suitabi- (Northern Railway) lity test During the period 1-7-61 to 2-3-65 he was actually working in the lower grade of 130—240(AS) and he was also not due promotion on th»» basis of overall semoritv of Pharma- 1968 SHRI C K CHANDRAPPAN cists on the Railway as a whole How- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be ever erroneously he was allowed pleased to state arrears m Gr 150—225(PS)/205 -2*0 (AS) for the penod 1-7-61 to 2-3-65 resulting m overpayment to this em- (a) whether some pharmacists work- ployee which the Railway Administra- ing in Northern Railway^ Lucknow tion has decided to recover were given higher responsibility and grade of Rs 205—280 (AS) with the concurrence of the Divisional Autho- rities ic D M O , D A O and D S Northern Railway, Lucknow and ffliH *T

(b) if so, the facts thereof? 1969 TO W*T«T : wr fcrtrafr s 'tt fr

THE MINISTER OP RAILWAYS (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) (* ) *tt imsTwrcjfrcfa/*: vtfi and (b) In the Lucknow Division of 5HTT zxt srrs* srtfaft *rr wm the Northern Railway, one post of ^rr^rr, vV Pharmacist in grade Rs CO—110(PS) was revised to Gr 150—225(PS)/205— 280 (AS) from 1-4-M arrears being (w) wm 1§wrz qtfrfta w* vt pavable from lA-'M Similar rpgrada- •rshnr ft+'Riw tion was. also effected in the other si < Divisions on that Railway The posts of ?w ) tpflnvK-imtriKiftzxirm fr the revision of the grade were issued by the headquarters offlo* on 22-3-63 m v r * t £ i promoting seven senior most Pharma- W p* sn tfaVftrer t3W«srar % vr«t cists against the

*HT fa** WIT fflrff?* vnwnr trtaMrffvi frafor n w two j m fwwwf % fnq vrerr t o wan i9 7 i. «ft srita* wrf v&m: wr 4$f«nm w< toot s*to «Rft 1970. «fi T.irxm s m w & '. *5 warft qft fTTT fifr : ^rr fafa, wtM* tr? «RT^f ^ m fa : (^ ) Vfffqr^T v f a M «Ff fqiBwft 5Tfr ^ fSraffriT f^4 r «t t ; (*?) wr wo wfnTfs ^>tt faro «fk fao, TOR?PR (^etar) h wrrftqtr 5t fatrrc swiffa % ftrcj ** (’s) T^r T u ft srfSr^ 1976 % *rf%*T *T «rf%sr ^HBT f^pcrr 1W| ? *P*^ (t^sp TT^ftRf 'Trft) Tt 7 ffimq, xm** *r)t i w t * *rar> . w f EPttffar sth Sr 1 99.000 ?5SR SfPTT) : (v ) 4V 4 m ftf («rw-sro *rr*HJTf* «rWsr (w?qr finwpr) «rr%«r 1 9 7 0 ^ Sra) % y * i e qr % I ^ srmH’ 26-2-1977 % Will the Minister of PETROLEUM % fw«w ^nTRTT ST 51?fte?fcrrt fa AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZER'S be pleased to slate: m rf w * * m rm % ^ f^srrd STO W CR, FTffopr % (a) whether the Government pro- pose to reduce the price o{ pesticides f*w m % f*n? jw rw % faq *r$KT«£ and ensure its regular supply to tne jtSjt «riw apt 30,000 *5V farmers; and Trftr, % w r it vr fofcr fon (b) 11 so, action proposed In this I 1 regard? 69 Written Answers ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM,- z CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS 2 (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). In order, to ensure supply of 16) DelhJ-Kalka . • 7 pesticides to the farmers at reasonable prices Government had requested the (7) Ludcnow-Kathgod am . 32 Bureau of Industrial Costs and PriceB 00 Bombay-Pune . • 53 lo conduct a study of cost stiucture of the major items of pesticides manu- (9) Delhi-Dehredun . • 9 factured in the country Bureau’s (io) Lucknow-Dehradun . 8 report in respect of live items of tech- nicnl «rade pesticides has recently Total . . 270 been received. Their study in respect of the remaining items and formula* tions is in progress. The reports of In addition, the loads of the existing the Bureau will be considered and ap- trains have also been augmented to propriate action, as necessary, will be the extent feasible taken.

Jobs tor King of victims of Train Holiday Special Trains to Hill Stations Accident of Kahibari

1973. SHRI D B CHANDRA 1974. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR Will GOWDA Will the Minister of RAIL- the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased WAYS be pleased to state- to state

(a) whether his Ministry has taken (a) whether his Ministry have de- special steps to clear summer rush by cided to give jobs to kins of victims running Holiday Special Trains to •f train mishap which occurred on the Hill StatiGns; and 30th May, 1977 at Kahibari m Assam,

(b) if so, the arrangements made (b) if so, how many such relations In this regard? have been provided jobs so far; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE). (a) (c) how many are still to get the and (b). Subject to traffic offering, Jobs; and the Railways have planned to run the following number of specials to clear (d) the other benefits given to the the4iill and holiday rush of traffic dur. relations of the railway employees ing this summer:— who died in the accident?

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Route Trains iu (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) pain No~-*except to dependents’ of deceased 1 a railway employees.

(i) Delhi-Jammu Tawi . ,■ 51 (b) to (d). Out of 9 cases of em- ployees who died in the accident, ap- (a) Bombay-J wnrnu T«wi. . 9 pointments have been offered to the (3t SsaldathNewJalpsHpui . 36 dependents in eight cases. Ex-gratUt payments at the rate of Rs. 3,500/- (4) Hawrah-J immu Trwi . . 4 have also been paid to the relations of (j> Ahm«dsbsd*Marwar . . * 6* the deceased employees. Written Answers JWS1& 28, l&Vt Written Awrtffen 72

farfr 3 fawJTf-^rrtf *w f Of a Commission of Inquiry to find out whether the last Lok Sabha poll was fTTTT 1ST fWSWT URT rigged; Lok Sabha Election was rigged has sfr *7 ^ *tft &, been received T O % (b) and (c) Do not arise f?PTT *P1T I 1

Pasencer Trains running without «n: «bt c^ fwrfar First Class Bogies f 197(1 SHRiP RAJAGOPAL NAIDU 19 7 8 W R T W H t a u ' Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be *rarr ar?n^ n r «rc»r far pleased to state (a) whether most of the passengei ( * ) i r tx r t. v t TW # trains between Katpadi and Tirupati, * fa * (^fr?rfr) Pakctla and Dharmavaram are run- w\ *PTT 35T ning without first class bogies, and (b) if so, the reasons therefor? (m ) * t t r : $<3 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS nrrf {%*) ar^rm % ftit (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) No $ ?

(b) Does not arise (sfto : (*) «fK («r) ^r-smRR *nmrn?r *r Enquiry about Rigging ol Lok Sabka Poll \ v tm , ^mnrwr ip * VRofr «pra ft? fort *fatarc 1977 SHRI R V SWAMINATHAtf «n$r swrrcf t k Will the Muuster of LAW, JUSTICE urm verr ^ *nftan v r * % 3 COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state h s v i fk viw rr (a) whether the opposition parties in India are demanding for setting up «rc w w * r f finrr ifWftwc ffc f » 7 , W r m * M m m ASADBA 7, I M (U K A ) Written A**W*r* 74

THE H i m OF ftAJLWAYS «rsrT fci *Wt (wt« «ro * ‘l«Rfc ) : st t t ^ ?^t £r i” {V) 3fV, *T^t «RT. fw*TT ^tafaTT *!% Sift ?TWTRt / («r) sm n $ » #fonittf®W«T 5T 5ft WTT^Tf^ f *T IT WWW I

Erode Railway Station

Railway Lines from Dhanuaaamr 1981 SHRI R KOLANTHAIVELU: to Agnrtala a»d betwwrn Narengl Will the Minister of RAILWAYS bo an^ Barnihut pleased to state- (a) whether Government are aware 1979. SHRIMATl RENUKA DEVI of the extremely insanitary and untidy BARKATAKI: Will the Minister of conditions in the first class and air RAILWAYS be pleased to state conditioned waiting rooms at Brodi Railway Station; (a) the progress made in con- structing Railway Bines from Dharma* nagar to Agartela and Narmgi to aware that this station has become a Bamihut In Tripura and Meghalay* free house for beggars And lepers; respectively; and (c) whether pipes and other fittings (b) whether the cM»truetkm worn. at thp station are being removed with Is likely to be completed In 197T-7A? disturbing frequency; and 75 Written Anatom JUNE 28, 1977 Written Awrtoeri 76:

(d) If so, the steps taken or propos- THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE ed to be taken to ensure the proper AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI upkeep of the station9 SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) Ail applica- tion under section 408 of the Compa- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS nies Act, 1956 was made Jointly by the (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) Unit Trust of India and the General to (c) No Insurance Corporation of India addres- (d) Regular checks are conducted to sed to the Company Law Boftrd bring- ensure proper maintenance and upkeep ing out various irregularities and mis- of station premises Defects noticed managements committed by the Kapa- are rectified. dias (b) The matter is under considera- tion of the Company Law Board w i * Jnfarf % fw?

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i t g f a m st > srfspr «nsT^ f?nrn: («ft snftr ) * (*) *ft, gi I i w arr^^rr 1 («r) fa** * *T®TT T O fa*T 3fTtr»rT I National Rayon Coarporattoa

1983 SHRI SATYENDRA NARA- YAN SINHA Will the Minister ol LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state 1985 WFHWf f a WT W*ff IOTI dfc V * *Rft ^ «RIT^ (a) whether the affairs of the fUTT fa *qT *HJ«Rr TT*£ STTT «TRt- National Rayon Company are in dol- drums, and fow trpft vppr % *rnr ^

(b) if ooo undertake the export obligation re- ferred to above Gujarat State Fertilizer Company Ltd Cont act for set tag up urea In other case of the Urea plant even Plan $*5,363 500 before the notices inviting bids were issued, the then Mimster-in-charge In addition an amount of $7 million suggested that the possibility of has been set apart m the contract for awarding the contract to Snamprogetti purchase of equipment on re-imbursi- on the basis of negotiations shou d be ble basis frorr the foreign company considered The Special Committee m case those equipments are not of Secretaries considered the sugges- available m the country This amount tion in a meeting held on 21st Octo- includes ocean freight and procure- ber, 1975 and decided that FCI should ment charges also proceed to invite bids for the Urea plant as decided earlier However Steps to construct fifth production the Muuser-in-charge, m consultation with Finance Minister decided that platform to Beatbay High the contract should be awarded to M/s Snamprogetti on a negotiated 1992 SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEH- basis TA Wul the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- (d) The following contracts for TILIZERS be pleased to state fertiliser projects were awarded to M/fi Snamprogetti during the last (a) whether the Oil and Natural three years — Gas Commission has initiated steps to construct the fifth and the biggest Fertilizer Corpn of India Ltd production platform ui Bombay High, 1 Contract for setting up of urea plant of Trombay V (b) if so, the total expenditure in- Project including process volved des gn Padfcrge, imported equipment etc $10,290,000 (0) whether the foreign courtneg 2 Contract for sett rev p of like France and Japan have agreed Ammonia plant ofTrcm- to offer help in this regard and bay V project including supply of basic derigp, (d) if gO, whether any final agree- equipment, balk material ment has been reached therefor* etc $30,649,315 3 For detailed engmeering THE MINISTER OF FEIHOUBUM, to be done by P&D Divn CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS of PCI Snam is to be (SHRI H. H. BAHUGUKA) (a) and PKW ft» 141663,000 (b) At present there are two pro- 83 Written Answers JUNE 28, 1077 Written Answers

Auction platform in Bombay High suggestions have been received tp and ONGC proposes to install a third the Election Commission m this be- production platform there before the half monsoon of 1979 It would be capable of processing about 160,000 barrels (b) The scheme of issue Qf photo- of oil per day It is estimated to cost graphed identity cards was tried in Rs 43 crores approximately a bye-e'ection held from the Calcutta South-West Parliamentary constitu- (c) and (d) The decision to install ency held in 1959 In spite of stren- the aforesaid third production platform uous efforts spread over a period of has been taken only recently of the Oil ten months, only 2,13,600 electors & Natural Gas Commission and the out of a total of 3,42,000 electors could Commission have since floated tenders be effectively photographed attached for its fabrication and installation tity cards with photographed attached The closing date for the receipt of could thereafter be issued only to tenders vs Septem&er i$?T 210,(300 The scheme was tried on an experimental basis Experience at that time showed that the system was Amount spent ui oil exploration In prohibitively costlv and adnunlitra- Tripura tively difficult to operate The Election Commission are not in favour of the 1993 SHRI 'M RAM GOPAL scheme REDDY Will the Minister of PET. ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND Problepas raised by Aurangabad FERTILIZERS be pleased to state (Division) industries Association (a) whether huge amount has been spent on oil exploration in Tripuia 1995 DR BAPU KALDATE Will without any fruitful results and the Minuter of RAILWAYS be pleased to state (b> if so, the reasons theiefor’ (a) whether Aurangabad (Division) THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, Industries Association had sert a letter CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS on 21st April, 1977 about the prob- (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) and lems of railways in development of (b) The information is being collected industries in a backward and will be laid on the Table of the region of Maharashtra, and Sabha (h) what steps Government intend to take to solve the problems of deve- Identity cards *or voters loping irdustnes m that area7 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 1994 SHRI OM PRAKASH TYAGI (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) Will the Minister of LAW. JUSTICE (ay and (b) Yes The Association have AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleas- ed to state requested for construction of the following lines — (a) whether suggestiors have been (1) Conversion of Manmad- received to provide identity cards to Mudklhed section from MG to voters 8o as to avoid election mal- BG practices, and (2) Conversion of Kuiduwadi- (b) the reaction of the Election Latur narrow gauge line and Commission thereto? extension of the line to Latur Road THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE <$) Construction of A new line A m COMPANY AFFAIRS

The conversion of the Manmad- (l) provision of light luggage Parbham-Purli Vaijnath metre gauge rack; line into broad gau£e is already in progress and recently a survey has (ii) increase vm air circulation, been earned out lor gauge conversion (m) provision of drinking water of Parbham-Mudkhed-Adilabad sec- tion and extension of the line from Adilabad to Ghugus A decision Shortage of petrol and diesel in hilly regarding conversion of the metre areas gauge line from Parbham to Mud- khed will be taken after the exami- 1997 SHRI R K AMIN Will th*» nation of the survey reports is com- Minister of PETROLEUM AND pleted and would depend upon the CHEMICALS AND FERTILISERS- availability of resources be pleased to state Preliminary Engineermg-cum-Tra- (a) whether theie is acute shortage ffic Surveys for the conversion of of petrol and diesel in the hitty areas Mu aj-Kurduwadi-Latur Narrow of Northern India and as a result a Gauge section to broad gauge and gieat deal of inconvenience is being construction of a new broad gauge faced by the pilgnms and tourists' line from Latur to Lalur Road have been earned out Due to paucity of ard funds it will not be possible to take (b) If so, reasons for the shortage up this project at present and what step8 Government proposes As regards the proposal for a line to take to meet the requirements and come to the rescue of pilgrims and from Aurangabad to Sholapur (300 tourists’ Kms), no survey has been made so far THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) and Improvement In doable decker (b) Though some temporary pro- coaches blems regarding availability of petrol and High Speed Diesel Oil in the retail outlets located m 1096 SHRI K SURYANARAYANA hilly regions of Northern India were Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be experienced, corrective action was Pleased to state taken to avoid any acute shortage (a) whether the Railways are ex- Steps are also being taken to improve availability of these products for perimenting with double-decker coaches, tourists nnd pilgrims (bO if so, the reaction of the public to the same, and (c) whethter any suggestions for Expenditure on election to State improvement of the new conches have Astttnblies been received from the public?

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 1998 SHRI DURGA CHAND Will (PROP MADHU DANDAVATE): the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND (a) Yes COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state (b) The reaction of the public is satisfactory (a) the total expenditure incurred by Government on State Assemblies (c) Yes, mainly in regard to: elections in 1977, «7 Written Answers JUNE 28, 1977 Wrttten Answers

(b) whether Government have any (c) Yes scheme under their consideration to reduce the Government expenditure (d) Traffic needs, at present, do an<} the candidates’ expenditure on not merit electrification upto Sabar- elections to Lok Sabha and State As- mati. . semblies, and

(c) if so, the salient features there- of* invrhr snwn wnpr

THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS 2000 1*0 qfto : wr (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) m FTT fa The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of we House (*) wr ^ 1929 sufm *? wrirnr Prowft % (f3RT (b) & (c) The Government have Mpder consideration proposals for re- S P T T ) cf«p !PT ^ form of the election law and the t o h n m « t t ^ i f t s r * question of reducing expenditure on elections, including expenditure in- fWT «TT , curred by candidates, will also be considered (w ) m x * «tt fajt 3TSTC «PT ®PTH 3 0 —40 |*IT *TT fw fa THT % facr Electrification of Vlrar Sabarmati

1998 SHRI NATWAR L*L (n ) x * cthr v r finrfaT f r i PARMAR Will the Minister of wf*r?T % W TOT * 9 RAILWAYS be pleased to state (a) whether the electrification of (ifto

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96 Mon my i*a»uAl U8t ‘88 SUWlf Mmsuy wnt*A 97 Written Answer* ASADHA 7, 1809 (.SAKA) Written Answers 9® Varkala Station (b) The issue has been examined in detail and it is felt that the stop~ 2007. SHRI VAYALAR HAVI: Will page at Varkala will slow down this the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased long-distance Express train. to state: (a) whether Government are aware Wagon Building Factory at Kasha. that Varkala is one of the important kootam in Trivandrum District pilgrim and tourist centres of Kerala but the Railway Station there is still 2009 SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will in an underdeveloped stage, and the Minister of RAILWAYS be (b) if so, what steps Government pleased to state: propose to take to improve the facili- (a) whether there is a long standing ties m that station including the demand for setting up a wagon build- construction of a couple of retiring in^ factory at Kazhakootanx ha, Tri- rooms'? , vandrum district of Kerala; and THE MINISTER OP RAILWAYS (b) whether Government propose to (PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE). (a) consider this demand as all facilities and (b). Varkala Station which are available in this area for setting up serves pilgrim centres was remodel- such a unit? led last year in connection with the conversion of Trivandrum-Ernaku- THE {MINISTER OF RAILWAYS lam line into Broad guage. The (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE) station is provided with a waiting (a) and (b). In 1973-74, Kerala ha’ll, two waiting rooms, adequate Government were contemplating set- booking windows and covered plat- ting ilp a wagon building unit under forms. the State Government. Ministry of Railways have no information on A proposal for extension of the further development in the matter. platform shelters and construction of a Foot Over Bridge is under consi- However, as far as the Ministry ol deration. At present there is no pro- Railways ere concerned, there is at posal for provision of retiring rooms, present no proposal by this Ministry which can be considered in future plans. to set up a new wagon building unit by the Railways, in Kerala or else- where.

Provision for a Stop to Mfedras.Tri- vandrum Mail at Varkala Extension of Doable Railway Lines upto Lalgola (Eastern Railway) 2008. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be 2010. SHRI SASANKASEKHAR pleased to state: SANYAL: WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (a,) whether the Railways received any representation from the public for (a) whether there has been a cons- introducing * stop to the Madras-Tri- tant demand that double lines which vandrum Mail at Varkala Station; and now exist between Sealdah and Rana- ghat in the Sealdah-I.algola Section (b) it so, the action taken thereon? of the Eastern Railway should be ex- tended by hopping stages upto LaU THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS gola in the north which is Just clow (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE) to Bangladesh separated by river (a) Yes. jPladma; and JW ty 4WI?W # » 1^77 W r % icv^

(c) Since the Society disputed the Demurrage charges for Wagons De- correctness of the demurrage charges tained at Natal Goods Shed amounting to Rs 9,928 70 raised m 1974, and the matter was under ex- mination, the procedure laid down in Y A D A V ^ n Jv GDAMBI PRASAD the said circular letter was not fol- WA Yq h 1 Minister of RAIL- lowed Demurrage charges for the WAYS be pleased to state year 1975 1976 and 1977 (upto May, 1977) have been recovered from the (a) the details of d e m u r s Society

Son? th 'T f?F Wagons detamed (d) On re-examination by Co Timer £ngh s f cial and Accounts Officers, it has been found that only Rs 1,202 30 are due from the Society for the year 1974 which ere being recovered * **•

Allotment of Cycle Stand Contract at the above-mentioned period Uim§ A«aha^d

2Q12 $HI}I JAGD^MBI PRASAD- LADAV W*U the Minister of RAIL- WAYS be pleased to state ftw nmlnt d«ted 17/8/62 (a) whether at the time of inviting open tenders m the year 1975 for allotment of Cycle Stand Contract at Allahabad specific measurement of 'Kznssrsr-*** ground, accommodation to by the successful tenderer % forage of cycles | scooters was given in the tender documents together with details thefeof, ' (b) whether clause 3 Ca) Of. tbft draft agreement stipulated, forfeiture of security deposit in the event of aAy encrpa6hnlent b> the lic&see on aiur •re as under peri°d in question railway land other %a^ the land allot- ted tot the cycle stand; 1 (c) whether it has been reported J t Rs 992670 197o ** 16^5 0 January—May 1977 f e 2^ s e s s & s i shown in the tender docum ent fpajij,, i o i Written Amwers ASADHA 7, 1889 (SAKA) Wntten Answers l02

(d) if a* vh«th«r it it proposed *a (a) whetfear tkam wan/at* stendws take «ct|4Mi to terms of Clause 8(e) of instructions for aarrylng out monthly the agreement? inspection of stations by the officers falling under their jurisdiction, THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (b) if so the details of monthly (a) Yes inspection earned out by Commercial Officers of Allahabad Division during (b) Yes. the period January, 1975 to May, 1977 and Travelling Allowance paid sepa- (c) A complaint regarding encroa- tateiy to each officer, and chment of the lend has been received (d) Yes Action has been initiated (c) the details of such Commercial to get the encroachment vacated and Officeis who availed of the facility of to realise encroachment charges Officers Carriage during their periodi- cal inspection of the Division during the above mentioned period? Officers Carriage facility availed by Commercial Officers (Allahabad THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Division) (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) Yes 2013 SHRI JAGDAMBI PRASAD YADAV Will the Minister of RAIL- (b) and (c) A statement gmng WAYS be pleased to state information is attached Statement Officers Carriage facility availed by Commercial Offitcis (Allahabad Divtutti)

D Mts ia tlon of the Officers Period of Number of Average Average No of inspection* inspections natme? of montWy oeoaaienv conducted inspections amount of when the per month T A paid carriage (Approx) (approx) facility (During(During was Jan,, 1975—awaOadby May, *977) the* Officer** during the period January 1975 to May 1977

Senior Dwawnsl Commercial January, 197s to 138 5 Rs 13V - 27 Supdt JDlvl. Commercial to May, 1977 Sttjpdt Assistant CenanevaiBl Supenn* Do <3i 5 lb . 107/-3 2 tcadeat Assistant Comir—-lal Stoperfn- Do 126 4 R* 177/- m tendent (Tickw Checking) 103 Written Answers JUNE 28, 1977 Written Answers 104 Issue of Complimentary Passes to Rail- (b) how many sets of complemen- way Officials tary passes are given to railway em- ployees of class I, II, III and IV res- 2014 SHRI C K CHANDRAPPAN pectively who have completed 30 years Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be or more m service? pleased to state. (a) how many sets of complimen- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS tary passes are given to railway em- (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) ployees of class I, II, III and IV res* (a) and (b) The existing scale of pectively who have completed 25 post-retirement complimentary passes years but less than 30 years w service, to each class of railway employee is and given below

Category of staff Number of prescribed qualifying Number of seta of passes admis- Years of service kiiil sible per year

Class I & II (a) Not less than 20 years ser- Two sets vice but below 25 years (b) 25 years and above Three sets Glass III (a) Not less than 20 yean aer- One set vice but below 25 years . (b) 25 years and above Two sets Class IV Not less than 25 years service One set every alternate year for self and wife only

fiye-Elections to State Legislatures Meghalaya (2) and Tripura (1) The Election Commission has ordered in- 2015 SHRI CHITTA BASU Will tensive revision of the Electoral Rolls the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND in all the above mentioned States ex- COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to cept Gujarat and this work is in pro- state gress at present The final publica- tion of the rolls is scheduled for (a) whether bye-elections are over- 30-8-1877 No bye-election can be due to fill vacancies in some State held until the Electoral Rolls are Legislatures, and finally published As the term of these Legislative Assemblies (except Gujarat (b) if so, whether Government pro- and Manipur) will last only till March, pose to arrange for early bye-elections 1978, the Election Commission has de- there? cided not to take any action at present to fill those vacancies The Commis- THE MINISTER OF LAW. JUS- sion has decided to hold bye-election TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS to fill the single vacancy in the Gu- (SHRI SHANTJ BUSHAN> (a) and jarat Legislative Assembly after the

Legislative Council* of the various pleased to state what is the present States Is laid on the Table, [Placed financial position of Maruti Limited? in Library. See No LT-543/77]

Financial position of Maruti Ltd THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN)- The 2016 SHRI S G MURAGIYAN present financial position or Maruti SHRI K A RAJAN Limited as revealed in the latest Will the Minister of LAW JUS- balance sheet of the company as at TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be 81st March, 1976 is as follows —

Liabilities Rupees Assets Rupees

Share Capital 2,64,10,000 Fixed Assets • * • 5»75»4I»I33 Share Application Money 46,89,350 Investments 1,000 Reserves & Surplus 13,98,100 Current Assets, Loans & Advances 94,21,724 Secured Loans 1,26,27,123 Misc Expenditure 58,35*048 Unsecured Loans 66,77,785 Profit & Loss Balance 1,59.64,390 Current Liabilities & Provisions 3,69,60,937

T o ta l • 8.37,63,295 T o ta l 8,87,63,294

N ote s, (i) The fixed assets include an amount of Rs 39,3*,296 being the value of land, which besides land development expenses, includes the tentative price payable under the agreement to aell dated p-8-71 between the company and Haryana State Government The said land is not yet registered m favour of the company!

(2) No deprecuti m has been adjusted for the year ended 31-3-1976 on fixed assets. Arrears of depreciation as at 31-3-1976 m accordance with the provisions of Section 205(2) of the Companies Act, 1956, amount to Rs 13,18,403

(3) Connngent liabilities of the company are as below —

(1) Estimated value of contracts remaining to be executed on capital account and not provided for Ra 2,82,355 (previous year Rs 46,60,988) Ad­ vances against the same Rs 1,12,057 (previous year Rs 2,83,901)

fii) Claims against the company not acknowledged as debts Rs 98,334 ^previous yetrRs 53,643)

(iu) Suit filed against the company for recovery of Rs 5 000 (previous year Rs 5,000) representing Dealership Deposits forfeited by the company.

(4) Miscellaneous Expenditure includes Rs 57,92,103 f being “Prototype develop^ ment expenditure”

(5) Profit & Loss balance of Rs 1,59,64,390 is the total accumulated I ss upto. 31-3-1976 as per company’s Profit & Loss Account 107 Written Answers JtJNJl 28, 1977 Written Attttoers 108

jftwn thfl above Balance Sheet, it (* ) «nihn i tftawwrr it a fc faraf ifqvro fa* an* ff) *rtn Unmanned Gates 2oi7. ir« w ft?m m «rtnr: wr 4frtwnr ?wt thwt siw 2018 PROP P G MAVALANKAR iWfr v® ar rr% qft $rr *F^»r ft? Will the Minister of RAILWAYS De pleased to state {%) t o '3&K) § % «^r<>

(*r) w *nr?ftor (d>) if so, whether Government pro- f w r ^ *r?rcrV?: * f a ^n^rrf % pose to take immediate remedial steps m this regard and if so, when and fatT q r f a trifcfr i t t *r*nf the estimated cost thereof? jtrwt * § t i t *r f , *flr THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (w) %* vfw if apt f r % (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) and (b) There are more than fa* flrrrs 3Kt w r *?nfai$r tit *r r^t 22,000 unmanned level crossings on the Indian Railways The Railways V undertake periodical census of road T frm iftr and rail traffic at these level crossings (tf ^nrat wfpn) : (*) *fy, to review the need for their manning taking into account various factors ? t i such as density of traffic, visibility, accident proneness, etc Based on such (*) reviews, a certain number of level crossings is manned every year in (v) »mfk * wrt consultation with the State Govern* tit «rcr *fir $| mft aw ^ n r * ment During the five years from 1971-72 to 1976.76, 234 level crossings M # tit ipftt I were manned * 0 9 W W W i M b * * A S A * D lt A 1, M (SAKAj Written An*u>tra th

If i t affinfttiftefl level fcWMffn** are to tb Abmedkbad a&A, t&ere are presently be manned, it would mean an initial 8 level crossings and all of them an investment « i mure than Rs. 100 manned. >cfores and recurring annual mainte- nance cost crt about 30 crores. In this (d) Does not arise connection, it would be relevant to q.uote an observation made by the Railways Accidents Inquiry Com- mittee, 1963; Aban&mfn, of the Fertiliser Prodnc- won Programme under the Fifth Five “The manning of the level cross- Year Plan ings does not provide a completely satisfactory remedy against accident 2019 SHRI P K k od iy a n at level crossings'’ ° ' pe™ 0lto m . CHISMI. It ib, therefore, neither feasible nor Sotole FERTIIJZ™S be pleased necessary to man all the unmanned level crossings (a) whether the fertilizer produc- Certain preventive measures have V ? " S * * ™ under the Fifth Five been undertaken by the Railways, such Year Plan will be abandoned, as provision of danger signs on the roads, fixing of whistle Boards on the Railway line warning the engine dri- thS* “* re“™ “nd vers to whistle and to be cautious while Z approaching unmanned level crossings, taken ^ i G°vernment have educate campaigns among road users taken f0r the utilisation of gas as through leaflets, cinema slides, Radio fertilizers feed stock? talks and so on The State Govern- ments have legislated under the Motor Vehicles Rules making it obligatory on CHEMTrlrrNISTER ° F P^OLEUM , the pari of the Motor Vehicle Duvers AND ™riLIZERS (faJ No s f BAHUGUNA) ra) to-stop short of unmanned level cross- I / *1°’ SIr* T1» draft Fifth Five ings and to cross the railway track with I T t envisaged “etting up of the conductor walking ahead Sur- ™ ert^ f ers Projects in the public prise checks are also conducted m co- ordination with the local civil authori- m ^ ^ °f these Bhatind^0? 88 °f bem* estabhshed at ties to ensure strict compliance of Bhatmda, Pampat and Trombay The these rules by road users State Governments have been requested to provide speed breakers (bumps) on 1977 tW0 each fh!L d 1978'79- 10 Edition to the the approaches of unmanned level three projects mentioned above crossings With these measures, in- cidence of road accidents at unmanned (c) in setting up the four fertilizer level crossings has been on the decline projects mentioned in (a) and (b) as can be seen from figures furnished above, full consideration would be below BoVmh t0 ° f *M availabte in>m Bombay High and Bassein wells as fertilizer feedstock 1974*75 96 1975-78 78 ®*e.over Of Oil India Limited 1976-77 63 (i) G*«era8y, tnahned level crodrtngg c. Jf ? ;. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- «n» provide** m ttttjor* urban aieas S a jg A N 1 Will the Miniate* of S ? - where the density of traffic 14 heaVy. ROLKtJM, CHEMICALS AND m . TILIZERS be Pleased to,*iat*7 m Written Arnwert JUNE 28, 1077 Written Annom u z

(a) whether Government have de- Election to Nagaland Assembly cided for a total takeover of Oil India Limited, 2022 SHRI JYOTIRMOY SOSU. Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE (b) if so, the facts thereof, AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state (c j whether Government have de- cided to give Oil India Limited a (a) whether he proposes to hold wider role in oil exploration, and elections to Nagaland Assembly very soon, (d) if so, the broad outlines there- (b) if so, within what date, of’ (c) whether UDF (Nagaland) has demanded that the election symbol THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Mithun should be frozen, and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) and (d) if so, action taken thereon? (b) Negotiations for acquiring effec- THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUbTiCE tive control over Oil India Limited are In progress AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) and (b) It is proposed to hold the elections to (c) and (d) Oil India Limited has Nagaland Legislative Assembly after applied for the grant of Petroleum the monsoon season Exploration Services for the onshore and offshore areas of Mahanadi Bassin (c Yes, Sir No decision has yet been taken by (d) The symbol ‘Mithun’ has been Government on the application frozen by the Election Commission in so far as the State of Nagaland is concerned

Savings due to Abolition of two Com- mittees in Railways Departmental Catering Establishment

202a SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU 2021 SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be SHNAN Will the Minister of RAIL pleased to state WAYS be pleased to state how far recent abolition of superfluous com (a) how many departmental cater- mittees on Railways would make ing establishments have been handed additional fund available to the Rail over to private caterers, way exchequer7 (b) m departmental catenng> estab- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS lishments what is the total number of (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) The permanent bearers with fixed salaries extent of funds available directly and the number of bearers who are on attributable to The abolition of the two commission basis, and Commmittees viz Standing Voluntary (c) what is Government’s policy to- Help Committee and Committee for wards ensuring a needbesed earning Social Reforms on Railways is of the and job security for vendors working order of Rs 113 lakhs per annum in railway stations? covering the salary and allowances and other contingent Items of expendi- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS ture on the working of these two (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE). Committees (a) Eleven. 113 Written Answers ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 114

(b) (i) Permanent bearers on regu- (a) whether he is aware of the fact lar salary—'1003 that the supreme Court Bar Asso- ciation is going to enquire into the (li) Bearers on wholly commission conduct of the erstwhile Law Mimstei, basis—2532 Shn H R Gokhale, (c) The earnings of the ummlssion (b) if so, the Government’s reac- vendors are under constant review tion thereon, Whenever necessary, the rates of com- mission are enhanced and other incen (c) in how many cases Shn tives given to ensure that tbey get Gokhale’s relations were given briefs reasonable emoluments Subject to by the Ministry of Law and total satisfactory performance they continue amount paid to them on different ac- m service and there is irovi>ion t j counts in Indian money and in foreign transfer the licence to the legal heirs exchange and in the event of death They also have (d) full details thereof? opportunities for absorption m regular class IV cadre THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) Yes Sir Laying of Railway Lines opto Aizwal In Mlsoram (b) The Supreme Court Bar Associa- tion is a body not responsiole to the 2024 SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Government of India and as such Gov- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be ernment has no reaction jn the pleased to state matter. (a) whether technical and commer­ (c) and (d) Information is being cial survey to bring the railway to collected and will be laid on the Table the nearest point to Aizwal in Mizo- of the House ram has been completed, (b) if so whether the job ts going Shortfall in availability of crude Oil to be taken in hand very soon, and

(c) if so, by what date7 2026 SHRI R K MHALGI Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be

•«xtent dutiftg the euf#eat financial As suck, r » shortage tx the araila. ye*tt» 1977-78 tor processing at our bility of imported crude to the extent coastsfl refineries. These imports were of our full requirements is anticipated organised in terms of the vafriotls long in the curxtefit year. term crude supply arrangements, and by purchases in the world crude oil spot market, to the extent of the defi- Progress mi oil drilling cit between our crude oil requirements each month and the total availability under the different long-term supply 2027. SHItf S. K. DAMANI: Will arrangements. Che Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be The following firm arrangements pleased to state; exist for the import of crude oil dur- (a) the new areas selected for oil ing 1977: drilling during the currcn^ year and the progress of work so tar; (b) tho parties which are collabo- rating in this work; and Source Quan'ity m Millon Tonnes Mfc (c) the terms and conditions of such collaboration agreements? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, ^ a n ...... 3*5 CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) to I r a q " ...... 20 (c). The requisite information is being collected and will be laid on the Table U A E ...... i o of the Sabha.

USSR ...... 1 0 Working of Oil Refineries K g V p c ...... °*35 2028. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will Saudi Arabia . . . * 1*1 the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI- CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased Irn(R vtam crude)**. . . 0*5 to state:

Arabian Crude through EXXON (a) the performance of the oil for HPCL vH ndu .tan Petroleum refineries in the year ended on 31st Refinery) .... 1*4 March, 1977 and how dpes it com- pare with the previous two years; Darius Crude from Iran for MRL (M. tdras Refinery) . . . 2*6 (b) what is the requirement of crude to work the existing refineries to full capacity in the current year; •This constitutes the share of Hyctro, and carbons India Ltd., (a Subsidiary of (c) the arrangements made to sup- ONGC) in the Joint Venture IMINOCO ply the required quantities of crude (Iranian Marine International Oil to all the refineries? Company) in Iran. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM. Marginal shortfalls, if any, in the CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS requirements of crude import during (SitRI H. It. BAHUGUNA): (a) The an; month will be made good by crude throughout of tfc« refineries for arranging purchases from the spot the years 1978-7*, 1973.76 and 19^75 market. * is given below: n7 WHtten Aniwtn AS/ttttA t, (SAKA) Wftton Aritwen n8

(m MdUoa tonnes)

Refinery 1976-77 1975-76 1974-75

Digboi Refinery • . . • • ■ o*53 0*53 o*53 Bharat Refinery • ...... 3.78 3'63 3-87 Hindustan Petroleum Refinery * 2-79 2*83 3*06 * I-OI 1*08 Caltex Refinery • * ' ' ' 1*12 . 0*84 0-83 O -5 Gauhati Refinery • ’ * ‘ 2*88 Bsrauni Refinery ' 2*95 2*82 Gujarat Refinery ■ • • * '■ • 4-15 4’10 3-79 • 1 86 Haldia Refinery ■ * * ' 1*35 0 22 2 65 Cochin Refinery 2-29 2 56 Madras Refinery 2* 5® 2*69 2 37

22-99 22-28 21 09

(b) Keeping in view the demand Iran (Rosram crude * o 5 pattern and availability of foreign ex- change for import of crude oil and Arab an Crude through EXXON for HPCL (Hindustan Petroleum petroleum products a total of about Refinery) 25 5 million tonnes of crude oil will be required for processing in the above Darius Crude from Iran fir A4RL refineries during 1977-78. (Madras. Refinery) *3 4S (c) Besides the indigenous availabi- lity of crude oil to the extent of 113 million tonnes during 1977.78, the fol- *Ttus constitutes the share of lowing firm arrangements exist for the Hydxocarbons India Ltd, (a sub- import of about 13.45 million tonnes of sidiary of ONGC) in the Joint Venture crude oil during 1977. IMINOCO (Iranian Marine Interna- tional Oil Company) in Iran Quantity Marginal shortfalls if any in the re. Source quirements of crude import during any month will be made good by arranging purchases from the spot market. Iran . 3 5 Scheme of sxpaaafon «f existing Iraq . 20 FartUtaSr GMts to th» NMte Sector UAB X 0 2029. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will USSR . to Minister of PETROLEUM AND Bgjfpt ■ •35 CHEMICAX* AND 7BBTELIZXBB be 9m0 ArAta tr pVastd tt stats: wrmn Answer* JUNE 28, 1977 Written Answers tio.

(a) the broad outlines of approved p*°» Is based on imported ammnnit. schemes of expansion of existing fer- Trombay V expansion would provide tilizer units in the public sector and the ammonia required for Trombay XV new proposals, if any, and m addition produce 1000 tonnes of (b) what changes are likely to be urea per day The expansion schemes brought about in their working after are intended to improve the efficiency the expansion, and and viability of the existing units and correct raw material imbalances (c) t0 what extent the country will become self-sufficient to m<.et its fer- (c> With the completion of schemes tilizers needs on completion of the already under implementation, includ- above expansion programmes7 ing the expansion schemes the gap between consumption and production THE MINISTER OP PETROLEUM, by 1983-84 is expected to be about 1 2 CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS million tonnes of nitrogen and 0 3 mil- (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) The lion tonnes at P*0* Additional ferti- expansion schemes ol fertilizer units lizer capacity is now bemg planned to in th« public sector presently under cover this gap and move towards self- implementation are — sufficiency m fertilizers 1 Nangal Expansion 2 Sindri Modernisation u fa n fa ff #r rfirsff wnftwff v t 3 Sindri Rationalisation tu t w n 4 Trombay IV Expansion 5 Trombay V Expansion 2030 fwr vhtt • **rr (b) In the present Nangal fertilizer w t fa unit the production of ammonia is based on electrolysis With the com- (v) missioning of Nangal expansion, fuel wffrw M t % anr^ft farcr an# oil will be the mam feedstock for ammonia production for the total Nan- t . gal complex and this would result in (w) wcrftnft vf fJTTjprr improving the viability of the complex and m reducing the use of power The f , existing fertilizer unit at Smdn is (*r) fcrt qflnnfofl % m l «rc based on the use of coke/coke-oven gas as feedstock in the production of $trt swr pRnft f xftx ammonia and natural gypsum in the $?r?, ?pt t *rar ^f^srwt production of ammonium sulphate Due to obsolete technology and the difficult feedstock production in this unit has been low Sindri Modernisa- vinh (jftp (*) tion which is based on fuel oil as feed, trft % apRTf TT W * stock would replace coke/coke oven gas in the production of ammonia TrfWf *Ft s r w r ^t it snpfir Sindri Rationalisation which is intended apt gt* 1 1 to produce TSP, would make available high quality by-product gypsum from ( * ) 3Pi% % VTTRft the phosphoric acid plant for use in the existing ammonium sulphate plant t, «rfa- in replacement of low quality natural ft VWld $ I gjrpsum The Trombay TV Expansion plant which is envisaged to produce 75 000 tonnes each of nitrogen and ft wt# f Trfw % w w 131 Written Answers ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers J22

v ia * r r g fiwrft THE MINISTER OP RAILWAYS (PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE) ■ (a) f i Yes.

(»r) 978. qr fw The survey has recently been V # W V 50 ?TW FT# IJ completed. Decision on construction of the line will be taken after the Re- port has been examined and subject to New Railway line for ForbeBganJ- availability of funds. Paiaai-Jokl

2031. SHHI L L KAPCX>R. Will the •prcwr * m ita sita* v t m m Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state;

(a) whether ro railway line exists 2033. TCW : TOT between Fcfl-besganj-Palasi-Joki-Baha- ?w t T«rw*r iftr infr durganj-Thakurgsnj, if so, why; ^ frr ^ fo : (b) whether the area is Jute grow- ing and has huge population bordering ( v ) w ip m v ft vfrerv Nepal and whether the opening of the line would help m the removal of back, VT7WMT SPTlft % f^Ttr *7 T O t TT wardness of the area, and «Tcn SPTTft tft^TT 5FTTf ^ t . (c) if so, what steps Railways pro- pose to take in this regard? (*r) vf i 976fttirft«fkiprTRr TT^T ft /frff VT THE MINISTER OP IJVILWAYS (PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE): ^RfTRT gUT «TT ,

( * ) * jpnTcT ft Vt*IT*rt JUNB 1977 Written Awptxs 124

{ * ) l fWWR, 197 6 tit m under water. This ra#de the Con^ari. % to* ?wt m tftw 4* ments inaccessible and hampered w$m rescue operations im rhripncRr Tnarir 5^ 1011 f f f t 17/36,333 5W «TOH 1011 530 m i f w r «TT I Place of Acddent of Tezpur Express ^

Search tor Victims of Railway Accident (b) if not, wher the line 18 likely to it Kahibari be open for railway trains (c) estimated cost of expenditure 20J4 SHRI NIHAR LASKAR Will involved m repairing this line, and the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state (d) the total loss railways have suffered due to this accident’ (a) for how many days search for victims of rail accident to Tezpur Ex- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS press was continued (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE/ (b) whether some bodies were found (a) and (b) Temporary restoration of after two days of the search, the bridge has been completed allow- ing the material trains to work with (c) how many of the victims were effect from 15th June 1977 The Goods found either alive or injured, trwni have been passing over the \ (d) whether even on 5th or 8th day bridge since 20th June 1977 and the of the accident the bodies were laying passenger trains since 24tk June 1977 in two passenger coaches stuck m the (c) The expenditure tag temporary river bed and restoration of the Una has been esti- (e) reasons (01 not recovering them mated at Rs 6,71,000/-. earlier7 (d) The cost of damage to railway THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS property involved in the accident has (PROP MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) been estimated at approximately Thirteen days Rs 11,11,21ft/-

(b> Yes Canceltstton of trains in Northern (c) After a thorough search, 85 dead Ballway bodies were recovered In addition, 106 persons were injured of wfeom 19 sustained grievous injuries 2630 SHRI NIHAR LASKAR; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS^ pie—td (d) Yes. to state (e) The coaches wave submerged fe (a> whether on account of poor tra- water and silted Also one the ffic man? t*«in» haw* heeo cnoaOlai in coaches stood on another crossjwise the Northern RattaMj*; i* 5 Avmam ASADHA 7, 1 m i§AKA) Tfr^en tuners 144.

(b) # § ( ) , % JWi» f W M ft>r the (1) Stationary Ticket Collectors low traffic; who a re-posted at stations lor mous- ing the £*t»s- They e ta * the tic. (e) to w qaany frains have been can. kets of passengers entraining and celled so far , and collect the tickets of those detraining at their stations, and (d) the loss suffered due to these Cancellations? Travelling Ticket Examiners THE MINISTER OP RAILWAYS who check the tickets of passengers (PROP MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) in running trains and work on their to (c) Due to poor patronage 6 trains respective sections to prescribed were cancclled and the runs of an- programme other four were curtailed Besides general checks by the*-e stall, ihe following steps are laktn to check (d) Since the services were poorly patronised, the question of incurring ticketless travel — loss does not anse (1) Special massive checks against ticketless travel are being conducted by mobilising a large force of ticket Drive to Check Ticketle&e Travel In checking staff, Railway Protection Traips Force Government Railway Pclite and Local Police personnel under 2037 SHRI NIHAR LASKAR Will supervision of senior railway the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased officers to state (a) whether during the month ot (2) Joint thrives against ticketless 1977 the Railways had increased travel m co-ordination with the drive tor checking the ticketless ${ate Governments. travel In the trams, (3) Frequent concentrated sur- (b) i f so, how many persons were prise checks, especially by moving arrested In this regard; and the checking parties accompanied bv tmjwfty Protection Force/Police (c) what steps are being taken to and tyuhwiy Magistrates by road intensify the drive against ticketless transport tr^vpl* (0 freofniio efcpeks by travelling THU MINISTER O f RAILWAYS ticket examiners in plain clothes (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) Yes. During the month of May, (5) Replacement checks by head- 1877, 44194 checks, as compared: to quarters and divisional ticket check* 7,778 in May 1976, were coaductad teg squads by intercepting the trains against ticketless travel. in mid-sections.

(b) la May 1977, 1,94,548 persons (6) Deployment of ticket checking were detected travelling without staff of one railway system for tickets or with improper tickets ticket checking on another system 36,118 persona were prosecuted aid 17,878 out of t^tsin were sent to lad. (7) TOuwativ* propaganda egamst ticketless travel is carried out («> The ticket ctoKkfci organUaUop among the travelling public parttatr m Raihwgtt eopsistt o#t-r larly among the student eowMMfflttft- Written Answers JUNE 28, 1977 Written Answers j*

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1 ft Wf*T Sf HFPTT W*IT 2040. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM, yfl2038. 5^W Wf*t . WT fa CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be JTsft SRn% tit f»TT fa pleased to state arTTHTTTftPTT ?rnpr ^ srs* (a) whether a refinery is being cons- % farr ^rr*FR TT WT «FTfal^ tructed at Mathura, and TT f w r I ? (a) if so, its capacity and other broad features? f a (rfto *rj ) fe ^ - Trrr-TtrftRT srr^T sr

Availability and import of Naptha SHAN1I BHUSHAN) (a) to (c) Presumably the Honble Member has 2041 SHRI P RAJAGOPAL NAIDU in mind a communication which wa77 On (c) Yes 8th May 1977 Shn Charan Singh desired the return of his 1 t r>r dated (d) About 184 lakh tonnes of <5th May 1977 addressed in his capacity Naphtha was imported dux mg the ps Chairman of the Bharatiya Lok year 1976-77 Dal After taking a copy for the records of the Commission the letter was returned to Shn Charan Singh on 9th May 1077 with a covering letter Removal of Letter of B L D from m which he wis informed that the Election Commission’s File Ch nf Election Ccmmissioner would aw ut a communication from him be[ore he piocteded further m the 2042 SHRI R V SWAMlNATHANf jm it r rc htmg to the merger of the Will the Minister of LAW JUSTICE pv*\ On 11th May 1977 the letter AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased of 5th May 1377 was, returned to the to state Deputy Faction Commissioner in (a) whether 1 letter from BLD to person hv Shn RaM Rai General the Election Commission regarding Secretary Janati party As similar election symbol had been removed from letters mtinmting the merger had the Commissions file at the Instance already been received from the Indian of the Union Home Minister National Congress (Organisation) the Bharntiys Tan S?ngh and the Socialist (b) what were the contents of the Party the Commission recorded a letter and to whom it was written, and decision on 11th May 1977 itfelf under paragraph 18 of the* Election Symbols (c) reasons for its removal from (Reservation and Allotment) Order lqfP thnt the Janata pnrty should be the file? recognised and notified as a National party and that the symbol ‘Hajdhat THE MINISTER OF LAW JUSTICE withm wheel’ (Cfcakra Haldhar) shouW AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI m LS—5 *3* Written Answer* JUNK 28, 1897 Written Answers

be allotted as its exclusive symbol for in them Facilities for dxiakinff water elections to the Lok Sabha and State were a so made to the extent possible Legislative Assemblies 3 It would be evident from the above that it is not correct to say that Off-Shore Exploration Pnjfranune by any letter/file had been removed from a 11>. in Mahanadi Delta the office of the Election Commission of India New Delhi, implying that 2044 SHRI R V SWAMINATHAN something had been done unautho Will the Minister of PETROLEUM. nsedly or in an irregular manner CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state (a) whether Government have Anrantements for Election* to State given clearance to the joint sector Oil Assemblies India Limited to start off-shore explo- ration m the Mahanadi Delta in July, 2043 SHRI R V SWAMINATHAN Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE (b) whether Government have AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased dropped the idea of take over of the to state foreign equity m the Oil India Limited. (a) whether this time the Election (c) if so, the reasons therefor, Commission had made better and tigh- ter arrangements for elections to State (d) whether the Oil India Limited Assemblies has worked out £ Rs 15 crore off-shore exploration programme for the Maba (b) m what way they were better nadi area, and and tighter tfta i the last Lok Sabfca elections, an^ (e) if so, the main features of the proposed programme? (c) whether any arrangements wore made to save the people from the beat'' THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) No, AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI Sir SHANH BHUSHAN) (a) Yes, Sir (b) a id (c) No, Sir The negotiations (b) The better and tighter arrange* are in progress ments were in the sphere of mainten- -- (d) and (e) The scheme for offshore ance of law and order with a view to exploration of Mahanadi area is under effectively preventing the commission preparation by Oil India Ltd of electoral offences and ensuring smooth poll The State Governments concerned made adequate security Collision between. Trivandrum Mail arrangements for the safe conduct of and Steam Engines at Tlruvalam poll where elections to Legislative Assemblies were held The effective- ness of the arrangements can be seen 2045. SHRI R V SWAMINATHAN Will the Minister of RAILWAYS he from the fact that there were 75 cases please^ to state of rej>oll/ad]Oumed poll at the Lok Sabha elections held in March, 1977 (a) whether two person* were m y i whereas the number of such cases and six injured when the Madras- during the assembly elections was bound Trivandrum Mail Collided Witt only 9 coupled steam engines while it was (c) Sheds wherever possible, were passing Tlruvalam station 118 K VM from Madras, provided m front of the polling station# so that the voters may stand In queue (b) it so, the details of the accident; X3S Writtm Answer, ASADHA 7, 16*. OSAKA) WrWw Awwers 134

(c) whether a&y *w u ry has been (*) w t v n n *** * conducted into the accident; and wnfaifoflr t i ftrcrnrcf faq t i t (d) if so, the findings thereof? ftyfinc w ; t i t

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (w ) sr, fcwft (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE) • (a) and (b). On 27th May, 1977, at about f t r n i# fW f P w rof 04*0(1 hours, while train No. 20 Up t i w t ? Tnvandruro-Madras Mail was passing through Tiruvalam station on the up main line, it collided with the rear of fcl (tfo : (w) coupled light engines In this acndent, 2 persons were killed 8 sustained ft I gnevoi b muiries and 10 simple injuries («r) t i t s (c) and (d) The Additjonal Com- orrr missioner of Railway Safety. Bangalore, hRg held his .statutory inquiry into this 3 6 5 9 f W ^ accident According to his provisional STT^cT f t I ^ 588 ftFPHTff finding, the accident was due to failure ^ ^ ^ ^ t sftr 71 t t f ^ n r of the railway staff f w an ^ | 1

Drilling operations in Assam, Tripura and Arun&chal Import of Tetracycline by a single Drug Company 2046 SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARKATKI WiU the Minister of 2048 SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND SINHA WiU the Minister of PETRO- FERTILIZERS be pleased to state LEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS be pleased to state (a) whether recent oil drilling ope- (a) whether a single drug company rations in the plains of Assam, Tripura and Arunachal have revealed the pros- was allowed to import tetracycline dur- pect® of any new oil deposits in the ing 1975 or 1876; area, and (b) whether this caused a national loss, and (b) if so, what is the estimated yield of the deposits? (c) if so, the facts thereof?

THE MINISTER OP PETROLEUM, THE MINISTER OP PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (S$£RI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (SHRI H N. BAHUGUNA): (a) to

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THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 1975-76 1976-77 (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE). (a) and (b) The matter is under examina- («rfor/far- tion 1976}

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THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (n ) S3* OT V & % CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS 9XVR IRT Vtf JWW an ^ (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) to (c) I if k arfar $r, eft w j h w f s IY srwr w r None of the Fertilizer factories has ( ? brought to the notice of the Govern- ment any “crisis” which they may be w r w wU W T f ’ Wl facing It is however the constant (* ft $W?ft «WR ipm T ) («f) *rfc endeavour of the Government to res>olve such of the difficulties of this industry ( v ) 3fffR7*T 1 9 7 6 - 7 7 as come to its notice from time to time (snfar 1 12 76 % 30 11 77 1n r ($w fii^r) stsst, 1971 % i p * firafarar | srt 5?rttBT- (b) how long will it take to complete *mtor | i w p r these inquiries9 vtft *n3r % far? s tv t t % faramtfta * * sr* # | \ THE MINISTER OF LAW JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANT1 BHUSHAN) (a) ind (b) As regards Indian Oxygen Ltd the Mono Crisis faced by Fertilizers Factories polies and Restrictive Trade Practices Commission heu> instituted two en 2052 SHRI C K CHANDRAPPAN qum es on 10th Febniary lf>76 and bth Will the ^Sinister of PETROLEUM, August 1976 The pleadings m the CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be first enquiry are over and the issues pleased to state will be framed qnd tried in the near future In respect of the second enquiry (a) whether certain fertiliser facto- a revised notice of enquiry has been ries are fading crisis at present, issued

(to) if sd, the facts thereof, and Hie Monopoly and Restrictive Trade (c) how far this would ««*ct the Practices Commission instituted en- production of fertilizer’ . quiries against the following Birift firms 239 W n t t e n A n sw e rs JUNK £8, 1877 Wntten A nsw e rs 140

and the position In regard to each is indicated below

S.No. Name of the firm Stage of enquiry

I. M/s Hindustan Times Ltd The Pleadings aie ovei and the matter will be considered by the Commission shortly. 2. The Southern India Mill Owners Association The Respondents have not yet filed their Vs. M/s Gwalior Rayon Silk Mfg. Wvg. reply to the notice of enquiry and the Co. Ltd matter is m the initial stages. 3. M/s Century Spg & Mfg Co Ltd. Do 4. M/s. abbestos Cement Products Do Ltd.

Floating «f MRTP Aet sutd FEBA by Act and furnished if the Hon’ble Multinational Finns Member specifies the names of the branches and subsidiaries of the foreign companies in respect of which the 2054 SHRI C K CHANDRAPPAN information is desired. Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state (a) whether Government have taken any action against the multi- v t wfta national firths who had flouted MRTP IT Act and Foreign Exchange Regulation Act during the last three years, and 2055 «ft *ftST fTW «£ « : «PTT (b) it so, the details thereof? fcrifefr «nrT% sm *3$ fa : THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ( x ) WT % w p % w fvx SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) and (b) It is not clear a& to what exactly the w>t $7^ $ , Hon'ble Member means by the term 1ftx “flouted” If it refers to violations in so far as MRTP Act is concerned, no such violations have so far come to ( « ) ’Tfc $T, aft f*FET ATT 3V % the notice of the Government on the part of multinational Arms which vrftm rt ^ t ? operate in India through their branches and/or their Indian subsidiaries (ifte : (W ) As regards FERA, there has so far (v ) 3R fa0w*i vr wnr *n?f % been no violation of Section 29 thereof which deals with dilution of non- *r*r*r ?rtaT | iftr

i n r ^ w w f f Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Employees Coordination Council at its meeting held on 5th December 1976 2056

2057 SHRI A K ROY WIU the (O whether th* renovation of the Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS Station rooms and waiting rooms will AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to also be considered in this connection’ state (4) whether a memorandum by the THE MTNTSTEJl OF RAILWAYS President, SC and ST employees Coor- (PROF MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) dination Council, Sindri regarding in- The suggestion to provide stoppage of justice by the Fertiliser Corporation 59/60 Kamrup Express at Nimtita was Management to the matter of appoint- made in the meeting of Informal ment and promotion ignoring earmark, Consultative Committee and was ed percentage by the Government has accordingly provided from 1st October, been received, end 1076 on having been found to be Justi fled on traffic consideration 89/60 (b) If so, the action taken by the Kamrup Express was not gtoppitip at Ministry for violating the Govern* Dhuli&n Ganga gnd therefore its with- merit’* directives* drawal to make way for Nimtita does not arise TUB M a n s i* * OF PETROLEUM, chbmkSals akd fertilizers '(b) The suggestion to provide stoj*

(c) The existing station building at 2060 SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA. Dhulian Railway Station consists of a Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE small structure with a station room, AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased booking counter and a small varandah to state over the booking counter There is no waiting hall In the station building (a) whether the same committed A platform shelter measuring 50 X30 lawyers who used to represent srst- is provided on the platform irt front of while Government are still represent- the station building for the convenience ing the Central Government and Union of waiting passengers territories before courts, (b) if so, why have they not been There is no proposal for renovation changed so far, of the station building but a scheme to provide a waiting hall of area about (c) the names of the lawyers who 1000 sft w undei consideration for have been representing the Central inclusion in the railways future works Government ana Union territories be- programme subiect to approval by fore different courts, and Railway Users’ Amenities Committee and availability of funds (d) the amount of fees given to each of them by Government during the last three years’ On-Shore Oil Resources THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI 2059 SHRI t> D DESAI WiU the SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) and (b) In "Minister of PETROLEUM, CHEMI- so far as the Central Government CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased Civil Litigation is concerned, the to state panels of Advocates for various Courts (a) whether the total on-shore oil are under review The previous three Law Officers namely the Attorney- resources of the country have been General the Solicitor-General and the estimated at 420 million tonnes Additional Solicitor General having (b) if so the Lioad outlines thereof themselves tendered their respective resignations new appointments have (c) whether comparable* off-shore o 1 been made to the said posts Informa- resources have also been located and tion m respect of the Union Territories (d) if so, the facts thereof’ is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (c) Lists of Advocates for conducting (SHRI H N BAHUGUNA) (a) to (d) civil litigation of the Central Govern- As a result of exploration operations ment in the Supreme Court, various conducted so far about 1600 million High Courts and Subordinate Courts tonnes geological reserves have been m Bombay Calcutta, Delhi and Madras located Of this about 350 million (from 1st Apnl 1974 to Slst March, tonnes (about 200 million tonnes in 1977) are laid 00 the Table of the on-shore and about 150 million tonnes House [Placed in Library. See No. off-shore) are in the category Of LT-544/771 Generally, counsel have recoverable reserves Out of this about been engaged out at these lists but 10 million tonnes have been produced/ sometimes in special circumstances recovered, leaving a balance of about other Advocates are also pngaged Jn 270 million tonnes as recoverable cm the Central Q w etn m m (An*. The 1st January, 1976 information in reaped of UWton Terri- I4s Written Answers ASADHA 7, 1890 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

~tori«s is being collected and will be (iii) All important yards and laid on the Table of the House. goods sheds are guarded by Rail- way Protection Force round-the- (d) The information is being collected clock. and will be laid on the Table of the House. (iv) Regular meetings of State level and basic level committees are held for discussing Railway Crime and allied matters. Cooife stolen from Kail ways daring the last three years (v) Greater use is being made of the Dog Squads maintained by 2061. SHRI KANWAR LAL-GUPTA: the Railway Protection Force for Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be patrolling the marshalling yards. pleased to state: (vi) Close liaison is being main- (a) the total amounts of goods stolen tained with the State Police au- from Railways during the last three thorities to cuib the activities of years, year-wise; criminals operating on the Rail- ways. (b) the names of first three stations from where maximum number of thefts (vii) Investigation of crimes com- took place in the last three years; and ing to notice are pursued vigorous- (c) steps taken by Government to ly. ■check it?

THE MINISTER OP RAILWAYS Introduction of New Trains (PROP. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) The total amounts of goods stolen 2062. SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: from Railways during the last three Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be years are: pleased to state; (a) whether many new trains have Year Amount in R«\ been started from Banaras and Jamnu during the last three years; 1974 • • • • 3^7,33>836 (b) if so, particulars thereof and the reasons behind Jl- 1975 ■ • . . 3,10,20,032 1976 . . . . 1,22,53,135 (c) what is the critera adopted by Government for starting new trains to a place; and (b) New Jalpaiguri, Delhi and Kalyan have registered the maximum (d) the number of new trains which number of cases of thefts and pilfer- Government propose to start in this ages during the last three years. year together with particulars thereof? (c) The following steps have been THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS taken by the Railways to check 3uch (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): thefts:— (a) to (c). On considerations of tra- ffice justification and subject to avail- (i) Almost all important goods ability of requisite resources, the fol- trains are escorted by Railway Po- lowing new trains were introduced tection Force Guards. to/from Varanasi and Jammu Tawi:—

(U) Affected sections and yards (1) 187/159 New Delhi-Vanuutfti are parodied by the Hallway Protec- Kashi Vishwanath Express (daily) tion Force staff during night. from 80-3-7$. 7 *47 Written Answers JUNE 28, 1977 Written Answers 14$

(2) 165/168 Ahmedabad-Faiza- (b) and (C). Both, Oil and Natural bad/Varanasi Sabarmati Express Gas Commission and Oil India Limit- (5 days upto Fairabad 2 days upto ed are adopting appropriate enhanced Varanasi) from 26-1-76 recovery techniques to improve re- covery percentage of oil from their (3) 139/140 Madras Beach-Vara- existing fields It is difficult to quan- nasi Ganga Cauvery Express (bi- tify precisely the extent to which re- weekly) from 16 2 77 covery 0f oil would be! increased by these techniques since the result (4) 107/108 Jhansi-Varanasi/Mug- •would materialise over a period of halsami/Bundclkhand Express 10—15 years or so (daily) from 13 77

(5) 49/50 G01 akhpur-Varanasi/ Allahabad City PurvSnchal Express (daily) from 1176 Panel on Legal Aid to Poor

(6)83/84 Delhi-Lucknow Express, 2064 SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEHTA Will the Minister of LAW, extended to run to/from Varanasi (daily) from 1 5 76 JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state (7) 171/172 Bombay-Central- (a) whether panel on legal aid to Jammu Tawi Express (bi-weekly) the poor Ins afckeg for extension of from 241276 time for submitting its report, (d) Details of inttoduction of some (b) if go whether Government have new trams during the current year granted the same, is still under examination and such action as is feasible will be taken (c) the reasons for asking for the extension of time, and (d) when the panel is likely to sub- Crude Oil Resource* In Oa-Shore mit report to Government’ Anas THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- 2063 SHRI PRASANNBHAI TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS MEHTA Will the Minister of PETRO- (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN) (a) LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- Yes, Sir TILIZERS be pleased to state (a) whether out of reserves estimat- (b) Yes, Sir ed at 450 million tonnes In on shore (c) The Chairman of the Commit- areas 120 million tonnes of crude is tee, Mr Justice Bhagwati, while* re- considered to be recoverable by prima- questing the Government to extend ry known techmoues the time for submitting the Report of the Committee? has stated that he (b) whether fo enhance the recovery of oil from the existing fields the Oil Committee had done considerable and Natural Gas Commission had de- work end colleced a large mass of cided to expand the capacity of the material with a view to preparing its present reservior and interim and final Reports tn order that the labours 01 the Committee (c) if so, to what extent? rasy not be left unfinished, lie obser- ved that it would be destaAA* that THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, thef term of the Committee may be CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS extended for a further period of 4 (SHRI H. N BAHUGUNA). (a) Yes, months in order to « u $ it «|m Com* Sir mittee to complete -ft* Report.

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(a) whether a large number of un- economic branch lines are being ope- rated by the Railways in different parts (*>0 * 3 : of the country; and ifFr % ^rnr m sr<> 256 (b) the ptresent policy of Governr 9«TR

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(4) A copy of the Kerala Small MR SPEAKER: Before taking up Industries and Development Pro- discussion on deqiands for grants .. * motion Corporation Amalgamation Order, 1977 (Hindi version) pub- S8 k l JYOTlftMOY BOSU (Dia- lished iti Notification No SO 1462 faond tfarbour)* I have to make a in dteefte of India dated the lltH stibmUsiori to ymt, t have written June, 1977, upd4r sofe-section (8) t6 you of tftttfoft 396 of the Compa- nies m , 1988 m a m in i t w y . MR SPEAKER: 4*v« wiittift See No. LT-817f77J. to me But not only you; about W 3LS-S 163 Papers Laid JUNE 28, 1977 Papers Laid 164

[Mr Speaker] able to continue’ The Speaker has twenty hon Members have written to permit it I have sent them to to me if I pwmit all the 20, how the Ministers concerned When they can the business of the House go get information and I am satisfied on7 with its importance, I may myself permit it Just because you write SHiil JYOTIRMOY BOSU About and send it to me at 10 O clock, I what have they written’ cannot allow you to raise it 0 MR SPEAKER I d not want to SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU This say that You have written, Shri is by-passing the Parliament, by- Lakkappa has written passing you Perhaps you have not SHKI JYOTIRMOY BASU Mine gone through my letter is about the taxation committee • • • MR SPEAKER Here is your I have written to you under the letter rules SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU You MR SPEAKER I am not permit- kindly read and judge whether it is ting it you may do whatever you an important matter for the House like to know or not SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- MR SPEAKER The Speaker has NAN (Coimbatore) Will it go on re- already looked into it and the House cords’ will look into it only after the Speaker permits it After all some- MR SPEAKER What I do not body is appointed as Chairman of permit, will not go on records something Now Budget Demands are going on It may be wrong ap- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Sir, I pointment an irregular appointment want to make a submission It is a very alarming thing When the Par- You have a right to condemn it in the Budget You can move a cut motion liament is sitting, the Government and discuss it has gone to the extent of constituting a committee lor taxation and who SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Sir are the persons? the general discussion on the Budget is over I will have to wait for MR SPEAKER For the informa- fifteen days for the finance Bill It tion of the hon Members I would is a very senous matter like to read Rule No 377, which reads ‘ A member who wishes to bring MR SPEAKER It is not at all to the notice of the House any matter important Equally important are which is not a point of order shall those things Mr Lakkappa spoke give notice to the Secretary-General about bank discussion—some Minis- in writing stating briefly the point ter’s irregular statement I have which he wishes to raise m the House referred it to the Minister He must together with reasons for wishing to repy Suppose you raise your point raise it, and he shall be permitted under Rule 377—how can I allow it9 to raise it only after the Speaker I have referred it to the Minister has given his consent and at such He says that statement is not correct time and date as the Speaker may Whether it is correct or not, I have fix” You have given, Mr Lakkappa to get the information from the has given, Mr Ravi has given, and a Finance Minister When I get a number of others have also given If reply, I will allow you to raise 11 forty of you raise under Rule No. I do not mind; you may change the 377, do you think the House will be rules. There is a Rules Committee. ♦•Not recorded. 2*5 Papers laid ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA)

The moment you give notice, if you 12.36 hrs. have a right to raise it, and if every- body gives notice under Rule 377, DEMANDS *FOR GRANTS, 1977-78— well, the House cannot continue. contd . The Speaker can regulate only if you follow the rules, if you do not follow ■Min is t r y of St e e l and Mine s the rules, nobody can regulate. Put anybody as Speaker in my place, he MR. SPEAKER: The House will will be equally helpless. now take up discussion and voting on Demand Nos. 84 to 86 relating to the Ministry of Steel and Mines for wthich SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You do 5 hours have been allotted. not equate this with the question of inaccurate statement by a Minister, which comes under Direction 155.4 Motion moved: That is different altogether. Pleasel apply your mind. 1 “That the respective stuns not ex- ceeding the amounts on Revenue MR. SPEAKER: You would not Account and Capital Account shown allow me to apply my mind! in the fourth column of the Order Paper be granted to the President SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: All out of the Consolidated Fund of right, Sir. Permit me to raise it India to complete the sums neces- tomorrow. sary to defray the charges that will come in course of payment during MR. SPEAKER: I cannot give any the year ending the 31st- day of promise. March, 1978 in respect of the heads of demands entered in the second SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Not a column thereof against Demand written promise; only verbal. Nos. 84 to 86 relating to the Minis- try of Steel and Mines/’ Demands for Grants, 1977-78 in respect of Ministry of Steel and Mines submitted to the vote of Lok Sabha.

No. Name of De- Amount of Demand for Grant on Amount of Demand for Grant of raand jf US account voted by the House on submitted to the vote of Demand 30-3-1977 the House.

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r*. m Rs. Rs. Rs. MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 84. Department'of SteelJ • " • 26,31 >04,000 !!t.86,59,1a,000 52,62,09,000 3,27,18,25,000 85. Depgttnent of' 10,67,000 ai,33.000 86. Mines «nd Min­ erals * • 14/50*80,000 *2,49,00,000 VJ&lfiQflQO 42,98,00,000

♦Mr/ed with th: recoamjadation of the Vice- President acting as President. !<$7 DG Min o f Mw i £6, itfW Steel & Mine*16 &

MR. SPEAKER Hon ilfemlWrs the performance oi 10 tpiftkfe tons of whose cut motiooe to the Dmuutd* tot crude steel or 7 8 nullioe tons of Grints have been circulated may, if saleable steel There was a recent they desire to move their cut motions, study that the production of steel •end sHps to the Table within IS after 2000 A D will be roughly minutes indicating the serial numbers 1750 million tons, and it is hoped of the cut motions they would like to that perhaps the contribution of the move Shri George developing countries may be 550 mil- lion tons and we pat ourselves and feel happy saying “After all it « a good performance • In 1977 our pre- SHRI A C GEORGE (Mukanda- sent rate of production was only 10 puram) Sir, the Ministry of Steel million tons m comparison to what is & Mines has come forward with De- going to be 1750 million tons and mands for Grant* amounting to here is a country which is bestowed Rs 700 crores This is a very vital and which is rich in everything that ministry, the backbone of the indus- ib needed for the development of the trialisation of this country From a steel ndustry We have got excellent production capacity of 13 million and unfathomable deposits of iron tonnes of steel within a short span ore wt have got tht coal wt have of 17 to 18 yeais we die in the proud got the manpower and wc can be situation whore in 1976-77 our steel proud that recently we have the ex- plants were able to achieve a per- pertise which incidentally was going formance of a little more than 10 to fot eign countries m competition million tonnes of crude steel and with sophisticated and developed 7 6 million tonnes of saleable steel countries Let us be proud of There were days when we were en- MECON organisation which has come tirely depending on import of steel up by the expertise and skill of Even now for some specialised items Indians or the bram of our research we depend on imports Only two scholars and they were able to compete oi three years ago, we were import- with international markets and get ing nearly Rs 370 crores worth of many of the contracts even putting up different types of steel and at the a stiff competition with Japan and «ame time our maximum export was South Korea When we think of the 10 less than Rs 25 crores For the million tons of production, let us alsS first time in 1976-77 we have achieved remember that a very small country an export performance of more than with a population of 4 crores Ifkte Rs 350 crores About imports, I South Korea where they have prac have got figures for only 0 months ticaUy no iron ore and practically On that computation, our import may nothing to speak of m coal except be just Rs 120 crores, which means their manpower and skill, their pro- in the matter of steel and steel pro- duction » slightly more than the ducts, our country is next net ex- Indian production Some two or three porter For this performance, I would years back when I had visited some like to congratulate the Ministry and of the South Korean steel plants, I perhaps my good friend, Shri Biju was surprised to find that they were Patnaik also, because at least at one able to construct a plant of the capa- time, he had something to do with city which at the second stage will planning This country is universal- be equivalent to the Bhilai steel plant ly acclaimed as very rich in minerals within a short span of 40 months. especially m iron ore of rich quality This is what the South Koreans did ift A rough estimate is that the estab- regard to fcohan atcsel plant But at lished proven deposits are more than the same time when w» $Wnk ot the 26,000 million, tonnes. And some of Steel Ministry or what Mr BQu our cfceposlts are the best known in Patnaik is planning or if at all he the world cares to go by the White Paper pre- Sir, we feel happy an& proud about sented In Uay 1876. because ot the 169 0.G Min of ASADHA 1. 1899 {SAKA) fite?! * Mines gestation penod it will come to fruition further processing of tyus bauxite are. and it will come to 3-dimentfonal We have offers even for aluminium. realisation only after 8 or 9 years If In fact, if I understand correctly, there you think of a steel plant now, every ftre some international offers even for one of us knows that even with the bringing up one important aluminium best of expertise that is developing smelter unit Similarly, copper and in our country, the production or zinc, these are vital non-ferrous metals commissioning will be after 7 or 8 of this country If only we agree to yeais unless we have got some more process ariS exploit the ores that are re-scheduling The classic example is at our disposal, tins will be one of that of the Salem steel plant The the richest countries m minerals Company was formed in May 1972 if I lemember correctly and even now When we think of {He steel plants we are m the process of acquiring the and when we plan for the future, as land and Mr Biju Patnaik the Hon I pointed out, the proved and estab- Minister for Steel with a lot of im- lished deposits is 20,000 million tonnes agination and vision—and I think he Even if we go in for an ambitious has a great fondness for the South programme, we have got immense iron Indian States also—has made a pio- ore wealth When I was looking vision of Rs 13 7 croies for the Salem through this Report I found that the Steel plant and the magnanimity was projection for 1978 79 of the total extended further by making a provi- mining of iron ore given was only 59 sion of Rs 1 crore each for Visakha- million tonnes Out of this nearly 38 patnam and Vijayanagaram piojects million tonnes are to be used up m the If you go to the figures in regard to steel plants and nearly i0 million tonnes the Bokaro project, you will find that are to be allotted for exports If you between 1 7 million tons of the exist- go in for modern methods our country ing production capacity which will be can realise immense foreign exchange finalised In August and the proposed from countries which are m need of expansion capacity of 4 million tons, this In this we must go in for modem the total outlay will be nearly Rs 1900 technology It is not enough that we crores So we can understand a pro- just mine it out and send it through ject which ha& started 6 or 7 years some crude method and leahse much back at the present rate of cost is lower than Bra7il and Australia who going to cost the exchaquer Rs 1900 ate our competitors crores. Naturally you can think of what it will be for the steel plant of It is lime lor going m for an ambi Salem The provision for the Salem tious programme ol pelletisalion 1 steel plant is Rs 16 7 crores and the know you have made some provision provision for Andhia and Mysore pro- for one or two pelletisation plarts But jects is Rs 1 crore each Sir. it is looking at the background of the time for us to plan ambitiously immense reserves of iron ore which We have got the expertise, we have are of high quality—and incidentally got the necessary raw materials and we will gel fines from whuh we can we are also building the infra-struc- realise some good money, if we plan ture When we think about the non- for pelletisation—the realisation from ferrous metals also, this country is the iron ore exports in spite of our immensely nch It only needs a pro- proposed ambitious programme of sfeel per mapping and a proper geological plants, will be great We have to survey It has been proved beyond adopt modern technology for sponge boubt that the bauxite ore deposits in iron I find there is some pittance this country are one of the biggest in provided for in the matter of sponge the whole world. iron also Sir, I need not remind the hon. When we think of the immense Mtotrter, Bi|u Patnaik, feat we reserves, what has been thought of is have offers fgp beneficijttiaa and much too *m*U. It is in ftis poptext 171 DG Min of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel It Mines

[Shri A. C. George] put on a sound footing If it comes to that, they must be allowed diversi- that I would request the Minister to fication so that production improves let us know his intentions, whether he agrees with the white Paper presented and they become viable and healthy units You cannot sit back and say on steel in May 1976 In fact I was “those 180 units are dying and this is eagerly looking forward to his speech the best I can do” That is why, Sir, in spite of your calling me, I was sUghtlj hesitant Then I come to Kudremukh unit, because I wanted to be benefited by another important aspect of this For the initial remarks of the hon Minis- this Droject we were given help and ter because then I could have known tunds trom Iran to the tune of nearly his idea about his Demands for Grants 630 million dollars Already 100 what is his idea about this year and million dollars have been passed on the coming year in the matter of steel to the Government of India The aocf mines agreement was signed on the 26th February 1976 According to the I thought that he will spell out his ideas about the functioning of the agreement, we have to make the first Ministry In the absence of that shipment of the beneficiated iron ore naturally, I have to go by some of his by August 1980 With all the money speeches, recent speeches, and here I coming from Iran with the advance will recall one about mini steel plants payment made by Iran, the project There are nearly 180 mini steel plants will be uf immense benefit to us and with a capacity of more than 4 the development of the entire area If million tonnes The present situation by some chance we slip and are not in 1976 77 is, in spite of the slight in a position to make the first shipment picking up of the demand, the maxi in August, 1980, not only will we mum production is only one million lose our prestige, but we may ever tonnes, which means 25 per cent capa sufler financially So, I request the city util'sation There is of course hon Minster that though only Stingy the problem of excise duty and other provision has been made for the problems Yet the Minister for Steel Southern States, at least in the matter and Mines, Shn Biju Patnaik the of Kudremukh, where the money has other day was saying that the “situa come from Iran, he should take ex.- tion of the mini steel plants is, not penditious measure to see that the only of sick units but of dying units” project is implemented according to Can the hon Minister just throw his schedule hands and say that they are not only In the matter of non-fen ous metals, sick units but dying units’ Don’t you it has been proved that m many States think that he has got the responsibility including Orissa, we have got great to see that by adopting the various deposits of this very fine raw material. customs duty and financial adjust- In this context, I may also point out ments necessary to revive this at a time that m the districts of Cannanore. when we are faced with great short Calicut and Mallaouram in northern age, especially when the Government Kerala, the Geological Survey of India of India encouraged the mini steel has proved that one of the best deposits plants where huge investment has gone is a\ ailable One of the most impor- into’ Lakhs and lakhs of workers are tant raw materials for the processing involved in it Now it is a H»imgMiBhing industry Many of of aluminium apart from bauxite itself, in fact I may say even the mo«t the units are not working and important raw material, is electricity those which are working are also Kerala is one State where we have working only to 25 per cent utilisation, as is shown by this figure So a surplus power scheme has to be evolved to see that SHRI P K DEO (Kalahandi) Oriss* the ffiftu steel pUsats ere retired end Is slso surplus in power 173 D.G. Min. of ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mines 174

SHRI A. C GEORGE It is, there concentrate on heavy industries, we fore, time that we move in for an will become a rustic and backward ambitious project there I have got country. the report ol the Geological Survey in So, I would request the Minister my hands The availability of fairly of Steel and Mines who is in charge good ore to the tune of 80 million of the vast and immense resources of tonnes has been proved beyond doubt, this country which can take the and the Government of Kerala has country's prestige and position very submitted proposals for some steel high m the world, not to be guided plant and steel complexes there The by old pseudo philosophy and take the availability will be for not less than country to further progress 40 years, and normally, when we plan, I do not think we look beyond 40 years MR SPEAKER I would like to But this report and the proposals of remind the hon Members that the the Kerala Government have been time allotted for this Ministry is five shelved innumerable times Since he hours and I will call the Minister at is in charge of steels and mines, I hope 5 o'olock or fifteen minutes later The he will mine out this proposal and hon Members may now move their see that it is implemented cut motions SHRI C K CHANDRAPPAN When we have such immense re (Cannanore) I beg to move' sources this Ministry has a very im- portant role to play, but I am not quite “That the demand under the head sure wheher he wll be guided by the ‘Department of Steel’ be reduced by philosophy recently spelt out by the Rs 100” hon Home Minister, Shri Charan [Need for more funds for the Salem Singh, that he is not so particular about Steel Plant and for its expeditious heavy Industries It is heavy indus completion (25) ] tries which have brought this country “That the demand under the head to its present great economic develop ‘Department of Steel’ be reduced by ment, and all that we have achieved Rs 100”. in BHEL, Heavy Engineering Corpora- tion, Rourkela, Bhilai, Durgapur and [Need for the speedy construction Bokaro speak volumes of the expertise of Visakhapatnam Steel Plant (26) ) that has been built over the years “That the demand under the head Are we to reverse this merely because ‘Department of Steel’ be reduced by of the whims and fancies and pseudo Rs 100” understanding of the Gandhian philosophy by some7 We have [Need to solve the problems of the mmi-steel plants (27) ] brought this country to a point where we can stand up and how it is widely “That the demand under the head acclaimed that India is the most de- ‘Department of Steel’ be reduced by veloped among the developing coun- Rs 100” tries. In the matter of generators, [Need for settmg up industries turbines and other machinery, we based on the iron ore and bauxite de- •re able to compete in the interna- posits which are found abundantly m tional markets Recently even m the the Malabar region of Kerala (28) 3 natter of the second stage of expan- sion of Bokaro with four million "That the demand under the head tons capacity. It hag been decided •Department of Steel’ be reduced by Ifeat we need not get the help of Rs 100” foreigners, though two years ago we thought we would have to take help [Policy of the Janata Government from the Soviet Union. Are all these towards tteel industry which helps fktngv achieved overnight? If we al- multinational corporations to exploit low file philosophy that we need not our country (29)] DG Min of jTVNE 28, 1077 5ttel & Af^es 176

IShrx C K Chandrappan] mands of this Ministry I am aware of the limitations which the hon Mi- “That the demand under the head nister carries with him He has sub- “Department of Steel’ be reduced by mitted the report of the working of Rs 100" the Ministry of the last year, 1 e, upto Mardi, 1077 and probably, he was not [Need lor closer cooperation bet- responsible for any of the achieve- ween India and USSR in matters re- ments or any of the failures It is, lating to further developing stejel industry (80) ] therefore, proper for me to confine my comments to the constructive sug- “That the demand under the head gestions which I could put forth be- ‘Department of Steel’ be reduced b> fore him so that he can change the Rs 100" policy of the Ministry of Steel and Mines according to the programme [Need for providing adequate and and policy of the Janata Party meaningful workers participation an the management of public sector steel plants (31) ] ’'That the demand under the head It is true as my hon friend has "Department of Steel’ be reduced by said, that during the year 1976-77 re- cords have been achieved m piodiir- Rs 100” tion sale, export of steel and also m [Need for the take over of TISCO export of consultancy services from (82) ] this country We have also achieved records m so far as the labour pro- "That the demand under the head ductivity is concerned In a way I ‘Department of Mines’ be reduced can say that we have turned the cor- by Rs 100” ner and can look forward for bigger and bigger achievement in this [Need to solve the problems of the field We have production of about mica mining industry of Andhra Pra- 10 million tonnes of crude steel, desh and the need to ensure better 7 million tonnes of saleable steel housing and working conditions to and almost 91 per cent capa- the workers in this industry (83) ] city utilisation while at BhiUai, “That the demand under the head we have crossed even the hudied per ‘Department of Mines’ be 1 educed cent mark There is also improvement by Rs 100” m the labour productivity If we t,flfeg the ingot tonnes per man year as [Need to fully explore and utilise a measure for labour productivity it the mineral deposits in the hills of is 816 ingot tonnes at BhiUai, 57 at Arunachal Pradesh (84) ] Rourkela and 48 2 at Durgapur It should be noted that it was 34 at Dur* “That the demand under the head 'Department of Mines’ be reduced gapur in 1973-74 44 at Rourkela in 1974-75 and we have certainly made 8 by Rs 100” progress We have also made progress [Need to settle immediately the in exports as indicated by my hon outstanding issues between the wor- fnend In regard to the technological kers and the management of Hindus- progress we have exported consul- tan Copper Ltd (85) ] tancy services and also constructional services Two of the SAIL’S aubsidia* 12.57 bn. riefr—MEOON and HSCL-we doing very weH. MECON to busy in prepar- [Mr . Dmmr-SraAMR tn the Chair] ing project reports tor two steel plant* PROF R K AM3N

W*W IB*. the SAIL, being the same person till December, 1976 or it may be because She H ^C X hag also got contracts of the pooling of resoul ces under one Jar construction*} work in the Arab command All these things might have and African, countries. Improved considerably There may be certain domestic ani international fac- A question can bs raised To what tors, such as, dollar prosperity in oil do you attribute this progress? Is it exporting countries or rise in pi ices becnuse of the new organisation which abroad Whatever may be the cause I we have evolved, known as the SAIL feel, the hon Minister mut>t assets, in 1973 or is it because of the Emer- these achievements and see how 4 has gency or ig it because oX the new in- happened by appointing a new com- ternational situation ansing out of the mittee which should brin^ out the fac- rise in the oil prices and the prosperi- tors responsible for such a good te ty of the OPEC countries or ib it due cord in the field of production, sale, to the monopoly situation which we export consultancy seivices, etc I have established for the SAIL, the would request the hon Minuter to ap- unified control which we have estab- point a committee to assess process or increase our foreign exchange earnings to ^ tune of Rs 60-70 crore every i&tybe it wt« possible because of the year and that i« why I consider it to of fee post of Secretwy « fee Ministry and the Chairman of Mini?! whjcfa our hon himwke should ly . ^ 179 DG Mm. of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel fc Mines [Prof R K Amin] of 2 41 million tonnes it should not be There is need of taking advantage that this export must take place. That of the accumulated experience and ex- sort at atitude should not be develop- pertise which has been built up in ed in the Ministry of steel and Mines SAIL For the last 17-18 years, we have been busy with the manufacture of steel Now we should adopt inter- Even now I find that there is a great plant transfer of personnel so that the deal of competition in the interna- badly managed plants could have the tional market This competition pre- advantage of expertise which has been vails both m our export and import accumulated in the good plants If Our former policy was to give greater there ig no such policy, then this and greater protection to the home should be done immediately market Now it is better, in so far as the steel industry is concerned, that the open door policy should be adopt- ed Even in import, let there be com- There is also a possibility of over, petition so that we can maintain our centralisation because SAIL controls efficiency Otherwise, since there is such a big organ sa'ion We should al- ways be very very careful in seeing monopoly organization inside, and if you also give protection to a higher that this over-centrausatlon does not degree by way of controlling import take place Whatever unified control is and not a lowing the price mechanism there the working should be ds far as to work on it, then this monopoly possible in a decentralised wav Uni- situation might create such factors form control in regard to information which might affect the whole industry is all right but it does not mean that and might even make us high cost the General Managers should be run- producers If you want to have a ning to Delhi every week or from time safeguard against it, openness m the to time The General-Managers field of urport should be introduced should remain in their plants in their Arms and look after their job because SAIL is already acting as an Informa- I would give one more suggestion tion tank Beyond that they should The SAIL Board should be properly not go re-constituted When I saw the list of Directors on the SAIL Board, I found the names of some politicians 1 am gald to note that 'formerly also I do not mind politicians being HSL had 1500 people on staff at put on the Board, but they shoultt headquarters Now the SAIL has 250 people and they are managing the have the expertise, that is, knowledge in administration or economics or fin- samething which HSL was managing ance or trade or commerce If politi- In regard to export and import, I must say that last year was a good cians without such » background are year and we almost doubled our ex- appointed on the Board, then instead port But on the basis of present of helping the deliberations of the performance, we have fixed the target Board they might adversely affect of 2 4i million tonnes Now this tar- the working of the Board get is based on the last year’s perfor- mance, but such a good year may not SHRI M RAM GOPAL REDDY come again! Sc. care should be taken (Nizamabad) Does It apply to Minis- —while export is important—to see ters also? that export should not take place at the cost of home consumption which should be satisfied first and then PROF R K. AMIN: 1 am whatever remains should be exported about the Board. The Minister is Although we have fixed the target responsible to Parliament The mob- 181 D G . Mik of ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mines Xfe

bars of the Board may not be responsi- government departments by showing ble to Parliament losses on the part of the steel plants It is better to allow a market price I suggest that the Board may be to prevail so that no black market or reconstituted, persons having a good any such thing happens Otherwise, background in the field of finance or in the name ot small industry, some economics or trade may be put on the people may get the iron and steel and Board, it does not matter even if MPa they may sell out what is allocated to or MLAS are put on that, but such them and you may not have any a background should be considered control on them If you give at a essential for being included on the cheaper price, the iron and steel will Board of Directors be misused, and they may also use more than what is required If you I understand that SAIL has ap- want the most economical use to be pointed an expert committee for long- made then the market forces should term development plan Here the be allowed to work, there is no need composition of the Committee is more to give any subsidy indirectly to any important because they are thinking one of our requirements say, in the year 2 000 A D There the persons might have strong views about the type of I would also like to refer to the society we would like to have If employment of persons belonging to there is a definite commitment made the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled by the nation as a whole it is well Tribes m your Ministry the percen- and good but there may be certain tages are different at different places aspects on which the nation as a whole m Durgapur it is only 8 per cent, in may not have made any commitment Alloy Steel it is only 11 per cent, m Therefore the selection of personnel Rourkela it is 25 per cent, in MOIL of this Committee becomes more im- it is 72 per cent, in NMDC it is 31 per portant This Committee was ap- cent m HSCL it is 25 per cent and in pointed m 1976 and the Committee Bolani it is 36 per cent Why such was to give its report in June 1977 difference when these units are under I do not know whether the report haa the same control? Further, if I exa- been given to the Minister or not If mine their categories A, B, C and Dr it has not been given, I would certain, most of them are in C and D catego- ly like that the personnel of the Com- ries, hardly 1 per cent are in A and B mittee should be such that they can categories. Now, our efforts should take a good long-term view of the be to raise them to A and B catego- situation ana certainly even of our ries as many as possible and also in- development m other fields, then they crease the percentages of them will be in a position to suggest cer- tain concrete steps to be taken in re- gard to the Steel Ministry In » far m housing facilities are Now T come to the price policy It concerned, the Bureau of Public En- is time ttiat a new price rolicy was terprises has fixed up the norm of 79 per cent None except one unit has evolved m ‘he Steel Ministry because the differ, ce between the retention achieved that norm In respect of price and th» sale price is being kept Bhilai, it is 60 per cent. Durgapur 50 per cent and Bokaro 84 per cent Only as a fund, and with the per- mission of *b„ Planning Commission, in Bolano, the norm of 70 per cent hag it is beta" utilised In this regard I been reached It is 47 per cent I* respect of Alloy Steel would wx* fo point out that there is no use keoomg the price which is tower than the market price, there it In regard to labour productivity, I no use giving some indirect subsidy to would like the Minister to examine 183 DG Mm of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel & Mines 184

[Prof B K AminJ Bhilai Do the same thing at Bhilai why such a g n a t discrepancy bet* and tfcen go to the rest ot the plants ween two plants say at Durgapur and You may make a start a little earlier Bhilai exists Bhilai is having 816 tor other plants but the completion ingot tonnes per man year, while ought to be done like this 1 remember tn 1967 the Bokaro plant was sanction Durgapur is having only 48 ingot ed at a cost of Rs 672 crores and tonnes per man year Why this dis- we have already spent Rs 1 400 crores crepancy? Ib it because of the diffe- while the first stage has not yet been rent product mix or is it because the completed I would like to know how, structure of the two plants is diffe- many of *he on-going projects have rent or is it because the labour is very been re-phased because of this, how good m Bhilai and no good in Durga- many new projects have been shelved pur’ We -would like to know the for tlie time being I would like the reasons for such a great discrepancy Minister to attempt rationalization of MR DEPUTY-SPEAKEB Please investment within the industry Let conclude now I have no objection to him concentrate on Bokaro and the give you as much time as vou want expansion ol Bhilai or the expansion but the result will be that many of TISCO may be stopped for the timt- speakers of the Janata Party will not being till Bokaro is completed Has be able to speak he done that sort of exercise m legard to the existing investment > Sooner he PROF B K AMIN Only a lew does H better it is Otherwise, there minutes more Sir would be a long gestation period and our resources will get locked uo ior According to the policy of the Janata a longer period without getting any- Party the Party would not like to put thing out of it At Bokaro, hardly 50 the greater stress on the basic indus- per cent of the capacity is being tries at the cost of the consumer utilised in the first stage and after ten industries and the agriculture What years we have not got anything at all One does 4 has the Mimstei done m order to not know when million tonne capacity will be fully utilised lationalise the investment in the iron It is, therefore better that this sort of and steel industry’ As lor exam ple exercise for rationalisation suggested why should we go simultaneously for increasing the capicity al Bokaro by me is done as early as possible from 1 7 million tonnes to 4 million SHRI P K DEO (Kalahandi) It is tonnes und in Bhilai from 2 4 million a good thing that the mantle of this tonnes to 4 million tonnes’ An mvest- impoitant Ministry of Steel and Mines met of one thousand crores of rupees has fallen on the able shoulders of mv simultaneously on each of these plants friend Shri Biju Patnaik is involved In Bokaro you have not vet xeached the first stage which is I will first deal with non-ferrous 17 million 1 r-nnes the second stage metals So fa* as aluminium is. was * million tonnes and the third concerned though the production has stage was 4 million tonnes You cross increased by 114 per cent the the second stage and come to the third performance in the public sector is far stage while the ftrs,t stage has not yet from satisfactory The only public been completed Even in Bhilai you sector aluminium plant we have is the have just started for the 4 million Bharat Aluminium Company which is tonnes expansion My friends ask for an integrated alumina and aluminium new steel plants at Salem and Visha- plant of a capacity of 2 lakhs tonnes khapatnam but I would like to ask and I lakh tonnes: respectively located are we m a position to invest so much at Korba. For the full working cap® resources m iron and steel? If we dty of the Korba plant we need 248 want to invest, why not concentrate ~MW of power A tussle has been on BokVo first, reach upto the capacity going on between the MP State Electri- of 4 i^Uion tonnes and tfelan go to city Board and (he Korba Aluminium 185 D.Q. Min. of ASADHA 7, 1890 (SAKA) Steel & Mines i8&

Plant regarding the t$rtk of electricity to the Orissa Government for the and it is a highly electro-metullurgical mining lease of this area and if it is complex ana we need cheap power worked out, then the ore will have to The Korba thermal power is based on be transported from Hansankar H&d the coal which is produced at Korba to Korba, a distance of 347 km This and the MP State Electricity Board is is the nearest deposit for the working not prepared to give power to BALCO of the BALCO plant We must have at a price which is much less than the this Gandhamardan deposits completely cost of generation From today’s reserved for that purpose So far as paper we came to know that there has East Coast deposit is concerned more been trouble going on in the than 1000 million tonnes of high grade HINDALCO because the UP State bauxite ore with high grade aluminium Electricity Board are not prepared to content end with very little of silicon give power trom Rihand for the and titanium has been found there and HINDALCO plant Because of this aa we need cheap power for a e ecCro- trouble, this one lakh tonne capacity metallurgiral complex like the alumi of aluminium plant at Korba is not mum plant we will be needing 220 luuning to full capacity Only 25 000 VT W of hydro power The only tonnes has been commissioned so far answer for aluminium plant in that m the first pha«e and in the second aiea is to tag a Indro electric potential phase another 25 000 tonnes should m that region Automatically, all the have been commissioned by now but fingers point at the Upper Indravali it has not been done So far as the Project which will generate f)00 MW captive mine of this Korba is concern- of electricity power and will ensure ed I had been there I saw the firm power to the tune of 220 MW Phutkapahad deposit which was esti- requited for an aluminium complex mated to contain 2 6 million tonnes of As the Minister is known for his bauxite ore is now found to have only dynamism I beg to submit that he 1 million tonnes. So also the Amar- will use his good influence with the kantak deposits which are estimated Other Ministries and with the Planning 'to contain 8 4 million ton peg of high- Commission and with the Government grade bauxite ore are now expected of India and the Prime Minister so to produce only 5 million tonnes. The that Upper Indravati Project is started location of the Aluminium plant at soon Korba is definitely a mistake 91 the previous government. 1 had b o axe to The Janata Government have grind nor I would like to use sny had stressed on the development of agri- ward against my friend, the late Mr culture and Irrigation So, besides Mohaft Kumar amangalam I think generating 600 MW of cheap power, 1t because Of the political pull of the MP will irrigate S lakh acres of chronically Government that BALCO aluminium drriught affected Kalahandi District plant came there There the national I hope the Minuter will try his best interest was sacrificed at the altar of in this regard partisan attitude of a particular state government. J5o far as the location of Aluminium complex is concerned it has to be as In the Bharat Aluminium Plant we near the power house as possible to have already sunk ft* 280 crores 60 avoid loss of power in transmission ie. at the present moment we cannot go near Upper Indravati Power House— back We have already committed at Jai Patna Automatically, the Rs. 280 cro*es there. 80 the only aluminium complex would come there answer is *h*t the nearest bauxite For that we may be needing a railway deposits should be made available to line. In 1064 the survey was made of BALCO and the nwnpt deposit is we Lanjlgarh Road, Nawrangpur and Qandhamardban deposit* of Orissa AtyMigaura. At that time the estimated which contain llQ.pQuoti, tonnes of cost was Rs. 12 crorea. 1 hope the bauxite I believe BALCO Ws applied Minister will speak a word to Proff. D O Min of JUNS 28, 1977 Steel tc Mines

[Shn P K Deo] “All 3 eastern region ore-based locations at Nayagarh Barakat and Madhu Dandavate to see that the Bonaigarh are considered suitable construction of ihis line is taken up for large integrated steel plants. soon, % New rail links will have to be laid and dams constructed for ensuring Another redeeming feature is that adequate supply of water for each bv the Bide of the power House in of these locations Navagarh is Bafalimali there is a concentrated advantageously located for utilisation deposit of high grade bauxite to the of ore from the rich deposits of tune 200 million tonnes, as has been Malangtoli and Gandamardan blocks ” e>timdted by the Mineral Exploration Corporation of India This is in Keonihar district which is I come to steel now Steel consump a backward district This is full of tion is the economic barometer of any adxvasis * It will go a long way to country So far as steel production is uplift their social life if a second *>teel concerned the case of South. Korea plant is located there in Nayagarh was ciled by my friend Mr George But I know about Japan In 1947 its Some rumours have beer floating production capacity was only 5 million that the steel plant Is likely to be tonnes and in JO years it has reached located at Paradeep In all humility 100 million tonnes—which is twenty I beg to submit that there should be times So in this regard I would like a national perspective in respect of aU to submit to the Minister that he is such projects There should not be one of us who formed Ispat Karkhana any parochial interest which should Sangharsh Samiti and we had dharna stand in the way Some progress has m front of the Prime Minister s House— been made so far as location of the Shrimati Indira Gandhi and he took steel plant at Nayagarh is concerned the leadership to have the second steel We all know that Paradeep is a very plant of Orissa at Nayagarh in good port and it is a deep-sea port Keonjhar District which will be near Dastur and Co have mentioned Malangtoli It contains 600 million about this .that a steel plant could tonnes of high grade iron ore Bokaro come in the neighbourhood in the will be drawing its iron ore from here Paradeep area but it will be mainly and Bokaro is located in a coal bearing for the purpose of export of our belt On the basis of cross-transporta- steel products Paradeep is now tion principle all those empty wagons connected by railway line to Daitari which will come from Bokaro to take mine which is being fully worked out iron ore can bring coal from Bokaro All the dust that has accumulated area to this area. So We could have there could be converted by pelletisa- a big steel plant at Nayagarh Messrs tion process and that could be taken Kuljans and Messrs M N Dastur up and used in any steel plant There- have already given a report and they fore the location of the second steel have given a favourable report so far plant should be decided at Nayagarh as location of this second steel plant and finished products from Nayagarh at Nayagarh is concerned As early can be exported through Paradeep as in 1964 the Government of Onssa port to any foreign countrv had submitted a comprehensive memo- rial on steel plant and it was prepared With these words I conclude my by an eminent engineer who happened speech to be our Governor also, Dr Khosla, for setting up an Integrated steel plant SHRI BAPUSAHEB PARUUEKAR at Nayagarh. Messrs M N Dastur in (Ratnagiri) While supporting the page 28 of Volume I of the report Demands for Grants 1 would like to stated this and 1 want to quote this make some suggestions and observa- They have submitted a voluminous tions to prompt the Ministry and the report They said* officials to some action 289 D.G. Mm. of ASADHA 7. 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mines 190 It is needless for mg to say that decided by a technical consultancy the Steel and Mines Ministry has to agreement to start construction of play a vital role m building up of that plant I would here respectfully our national ecoxnony. The develop- invite the attention of the hon. Minis- ment of our country, is, to a great ter to one thing that as far back as exte'nt, dependent on this particular August 1969, this technical consul- industry tancy agreement was arrived at Thereafter, the matter entrusted to Sir, many good things can be said N1DC for preparing the project about tha- performance of this Mims- report I may again subnut that tiy but, as the time at xny disposal is this pioject report was prepared and very short, I would like to make my submitted to the BALCO by the submissions only with reference to NIDC in September, 1971 After all one project to which great injustice the preparations were made, I may has been done by the previous Gov- also submit to the hon Minister that ernment If 1 may say so, even in this particular project of Ratnagin this budget, I find that no proper alumina plant was sanctioned m April justice has been done* to that project 1974 Not only that, a sum of Rs It is an unfortunate project—the al- 78 825 crores was also sanctioned and uminium project—at Ratnagm, earmarked for this Ratnagin Alu- Everybody knows that aluminium is mina Project, m the Fifth and Sixth the metal of the day and this metal Plans Out of this amount, Rs SO replaced the copper iron etc Our crores were allocated for the Fifth country is rich in deposits of the ore Plan Unfortunately, three or four for this metal which is bauxite years have passed after the com- Through you, I may mvite the atten- mencement of the Fifth Plan, still, tion of the hon Minister to one thing from the information that has been There are very rich deposits which are supplied to us, it seems that only of the beat quality available at two Rs 150 crores out of Rs 50 crores places in Kolhapur district in Maha- was spent on this particular plant rashtra The places are Dharyarwadi Sudgir and the deposits of the best I find from the reports that this quality are available there. It was amount had been spent m the Fifth because* of the availability aif rach Plan only for surveying and initial deposits that the Government decid- prospecting survey of the project as ed to start an aluminium project at also on salaries and wages Not even Ratnagin The construction work of one rupee had been spent on the Ratnagm alumimmum was entrusted construction of the project or even to the BALCO which was formed m on levelling of the land the year 1965 Along with this Ratna- gin Project Construction work of This year also, I say that no proper aluminium plant at Korba m M P was justice has been done to this project also entrusted to this particular com- I find from the report that Rs. 4169 pany, BALCO crores had been invested on the Bharat Aluminium Company—BALCO —out of which, only Rs 10 lakhs— I would respectfully submit that, at this may be noted down—has been that time, it was plumed that both provided for Ratnagin Alumina Pro- these plants would commence the ject. This would also show that even construction at site simultaneously the present Government is doing total and It was decided that the alumina injustice to this particular project. plant be constructed nt Korba and a Sir, my friend Mr. Deo suggested that smelter and foundry project to uti- one aluminium plant should be lise the alumina that would be avail- started on the eastern coast I have able at Korba should be started at the information that under export- fifttoagtf. The BALCO, In collabo- oriented programme an aluminium ration with a Hungarian Company, plant is being constructed at Vlsha- 191 D.G. Min. of JUNE 28, i#77 Steel k Mines

I Shri feapu Saheb Parulekar] afe t61d that ‘'you have no RWlway". This 16 how neither l!he railway Hne khapatnam for which survey is going nor any industry 1$ comhig up inf this, on. 1 would suggest that the new particular area. project should not be started at the cost o f this project which has been sanctioned. This particular project Sir, as far as employment potential had been sanctioned long back. If is concerned, this plant would employ you are starting that project then it about 2,700 persons from senior mana- would be better to convert this pro- gerial level to semi-skilled level Sir, ject into an export-oriented project. so many youngmen from this district have migrated to Bombay in search Sir, people from Maharashtra—as of job. This becomes apparent from well as the local people—have been the huge amount of Rs. 80 lakhs be- demanding for this project for a long ing remitted by these persons to their time. People had held dharnas and homes every month. This gives an V&ken Toftitinas and Vney idea as to the availability of labour lathi-charged and tear gassed and in this area. Taking into considera- even firing was resorted to on those tion all these circumstances, it is my persons. Many people were prosecut- request to the hon’ble Minister that he ed and prosecution is still pending. should do justice to this particular It would be gross injustice to the plant and m this financial year, that people of Maharashtra as well as to is, for 1977-78, an amount of Rs. 10 0 this particular project if no amount crores should at least be set apart is spent on this project. This pro- for this particular plant. In this con- ject will benefit the entire national nection, initially levelling of the land economy. can be made If the project is de- layed, there is a possibility of cost Sir, we have been informed that escalation, and the intention of the there is difficulty regarding power Government or the policy ot the Gov- supply. It has been shown in the ernment, as far a* the new projects are estimates that have been prepared for concerned, would not be fulfilled. In this year m respect of this plant that this context, I may invite the atten- Hs 2 crores more would be required tion of the hon. Minister to the para- for construction purposes. In this graph 18 of the Budget speech of the connection, I may submit that this h6n, Finance Minister wherein he has figure has been arrived at by calcu- said as follows: lating the power charges per unit at the rate of 9 paise. In fact, the Ma- harashtra government has promised to supply power to this plant at the “Simultaneously in executing new rate of 7 palse per unit and as a re- projects, we must avoid delays sult of this wrong calculation the dif- which lead to escalation of capital ference comes to Rs. 1.060 crores. costs. It is usually not realised how great is the cost of these delays. As far as water supply is concern** An analysis for (tost escalations fai KTPC has agreed to meet the neces- 18 projects which had secured the sary requirements. Sir, even a trans- approval in 1976-77 or the Public port committee had been appointed Investment BOardl shows that, hi for this particular proiect. Jgir, here I these projects, invtttment costs had would also like to mention~that when increased to Rs. 1(58 crores as we go to the Railway Ministry with against the original ettmate of a b o u t the request that the railway line Rs, $88 crefres. This serves to «&- should be taken ftatnatfri we are pbaaise the im*>6r W e of ttmiifcr told that we do not have any industry ana if * e request for an industry we 193 D.G. Mia. of ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mines *9 4

If some amount is set apart for this per tonne whereas iri Jstpattthe tost project in this current financial year, is only Rs. 2300. W®. spend. much it would -toer, possible - to commission mor^ . i^ setting • up a tsfeel t plant i as this particular project and production compared to other covuit^st, ISMS' is ■will .start frfter about 4 or 5^ years. the . main,-. . dr,?whfacl£ ofj jiot parting Jfjierefore, I weuid request the boil. Ste^l plants in, tke ewiitpy -t-h®ugh JJinister to lqokninto this particular project jepouts ^re re^dy.-; t patter a,nd take necessafiy steps. •; i There’ is- another ^straiige thing. The Now, I would like to bring to the Japanese import raw material from notice of the hon. Minister one more India and after manufacturing: steel point. That is about the exploration flf .they export the same ta other: e&unt- fiirienite oj-e froan Ratnagiri opast, It jies'j of the world: ineludisg: India at a p available along'a- 4Q i&ras. stretch muchjebsaper: pries', than what we can ifrom.Pu^oagad to Malgu-nd near Rat- afford. We should jtherefore toy to c u t aagiri. Jlmenite- is an ore^o? Titanium the production cost of steel. - jnetal. Now in the year 1954 about 1500 matpic tonnes of fthis ore; were gxported to Japan, There has beea a We have' today the main materials demand for this particular ore; But needed, namely, iron ore which rprob- after we had exported this ore to Ja- ably no other country in the -vforld pan in 1954, we stopped-its. export. I has in such..quantity as. we ;h%ve. Un- jnay also bring to the notice o f the fortunately we have not fully utilised Bon. Minister, that according -to the the resources of our country- It is a experts if the deposits of ilmenite are surprise that- those who do not posses not removed or are not-lifted, the re- iron- ore- have far exceeded our steel production- while;, we are landing still accumulation process is stopped and the particular 'deposits would* again when compared to them. That is return to the sea-bed. If that'is the unfortunate. As I- said already, our case, then it would be a great loss to country is rich in minerals. Here I our country. Therefore, I submit that give the example of states like Bihar, as far. as ilmenite .ore is concerned, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh and Karna- the hon. Minister, may kindly take taka which have tremendaus resour- ces-of iron ore. Ifc is Our duty ftrsfie necessary steps. . that none of the. states, suffer from SHRI K. S. VEERABHADRAPPA not-utilising the resources t« the full (Bellary); We are very fortunate extent possible. It is in this, context so far as our mineral resources are (that I feel it my : bou&den- duty to Concerned in our country. We are very (Jrawr the .attention. of the. august rich in them, particularly in high House and also^ the hon. Minister of grade iron ore, coal; manganese, lime- Iron and Steel through yqu-, Sir, for stone .and dolomite, which form the the omission in implementing the Vi- inost important ingredients for any jayartagar-'--steel plant in Karnataka steel plant. Enough raw material is hy the Government of-’ India. They available in the country and labour have not provided enough funds Ao is also cheap. So there cannot be arty the Vi jay ana gar- steel ptant in ~ the reason why we cannot produce steel budget, Even though «ix years have at a cheaper rate and compete suc- passed since the laying of. the foundar- cessfully in international market and tion stone by the -then-Prime Minis- jfha'te substantial, profits • alsp out of ter, Shrimati Indira Gandhi in the it. ' , . year 1971. . * '

The other point is that construction The scheme was estimated to cost cost of steel plant in India is the hig- about Rs. 1500 chores. So far a sum hest ir* tye world, jfe ,.... Jfe 5009 ofsRs. 2.2..qrpr?gl have, .b e^ sg efik for 993 LS— 7. 19$ P-Q' Milk o/ JUNK 28, W t Steel k Mines t<#

ISbri K. S. Vterabhadrappa] that the Vfjayanagar Steel plant is an acquiring valuable agricultural land older one, ^ of which the foundation was laid m the year 197i and the required of about 4000 acres and another 0.3 land of 4,000 acres have already been crores have been spent towards pros- acquired a s such, I want assurance pecting and on the establishment of from the fitter Ministry in this regard the project. One can Imagine how the whether the Government treats Vijaya- Vijayanagar steel plant had been neg- nagar Steel Plant as old plant or new lected by the government The steel one. authority of India which had review- ed the project hoped that this Sir, I earnestly appeal and sincerely project might start production by 1982-83 but I very much regret to say request the Government of India, particularly the Minister ot Steel, to that the government has not taken take up this project by any means

«od Implenjentlng the steel plant* w 14.M hr*. , the South because the people o f the South hir*e rejected the Janata Party The N.M.D.C. have acquired nearby in the ttst ParHament elections. I am agriculture lands of villager* who are «ure, Sir, that the Janata Government mainly dependent on agriculture only. will be more generous in implement- I -earnestly request the government to ing the Vijayanagar Steel PUnt in lull give a substantial amount of compen- swing. sation for their land so that they Can start a new life since they are not fit Abundant iron ore deposits are for any other Job. As such I request found Sandur—Hospet region, the government to he liberal in giv- which is the best in the world. It is ing land compensation to the displaced world famous. I understand the de_ ryots. posits of Donimalai and Kumaras- 1 thank the Railway Minister for wamy are sufficient to start 100 steel having provided funds for Thoram- plants for 100 years to come. As such, gallu Mudoklopat line which is mainly I once again sincerely request the useful tor N.M.D.C. tor transporting Janata Government to provide enough funds and implement Vijayanagar the ore. Steel plant early. It is reliably learnt that the em- ployees of Kudremukh iron ore pro- In view of the steel plant, I would ject have got somegenulne grievances. suggest to Government to develop It is alleged that most of the officers* existing (military) airport at Bellary posts have been filled by recruitment into a pucco one. I suggest that the from other big steel plants of North Minister of Steel may look into the India, ignoring the claims of eligible tnatter. I request Government expe- candidates among the existing «n*> dite the Hubli—Karwar railway line ployees of Kudremukh project. The to transport Iron ore of the Bellary— aggrieved employees were working In Hospet sector I also request Govern- N.MD.C. before the formation of the ment to take up the Kottur-Harihar— Kudremukh project It is farther T^tiy line for transportation to Manga- learnt that direct recruitments were lore pert. made for the officers posts ignoring the claims of the existing employees, Secondly Sir there is NMDC work- who are eligible for promotions as per ing for the past ten years, in our place rules. These employees are working i.e. Sandur. It has not gone into pro- with dedication since many years. 1 duction yet. I understand that until request the hon. Minister for Steel the peUetlsatiOn plant comes, the mine end Mines to look ino the matter and cannot be worked profitably. As such do justice to the local people working X request the Government to imple. in Kudremukh project. meat the palletisation plant at Doni- tnaU at a&jearly date, in order to work With these words. I request the the mechanical mines of Donimali minister once again to implement the effectively. It may not be out of place Vijayanagar steel plant an early date. tv mention that the Government of KegHtrtca, haw construct*! J?arihalle m * mm " • Dim. which is • mulUfrurpose dam iwwr ijrar * whlefc can Irtigite MflO t o m of land end alaot*infr water to th%^jpopqaed palletisation A r t *t IJonlmaUj As PrfTfT Vf 'Jfiw flw V fW ffiT ®T»r tudb St request (he government to im- the «eUe«»attoft plant at 1 m * I? aw* m t f m q fc v m % 199 M- Mm. of j u a * 2B, i«W gfttel * M l* * *k>

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[Shri C. K. Chandrappan] In that context, what exactly .does it mean when Mr. Patnaik is trying .steel industry. That is what he said to pOSE:'thequestion of steel vs. bread, in a seminar in Delhi" and also' he before the country and when he says said that we need not give priority to that we cannot spend more money on .• .steel industry as was done in the past. a priority basis for the development As a result of this, ,what will hap- of steel industry? ,pen to the various pl~nfi this coun- try has been working, out for the last 14.58 hrs, several decades? 'Sometime last year [SHRI S01(U SIKGH PATIL i!}- the Chair]. .a White Paper on Steel' was' pre- sented and it visualised that by the 'Here I have a hunch. Further, ·end of this century we will achieve that i~ also made plain by Mr. Pat- It production of 75 million tonnes of naik.' He'said, .~Wewill have to open steel in this country. Now, the argu- ~ur gates 'wide" for foreign partici- rr.ent advanced against production of pants to come to thi~' country and in- more steel .in this country is, that vest their. money and produce steel 'v,e' are already 'in surplus, our in- h~r'e! He also raised the argument, ternal consumption is so< low and the that if you go in for production of external market is also not -Iucrative. steel in this country, the coal that. we 'We cannot plan the, future of this have will get exhausted within 40-45 'Country on the basis of certain tem- years. He also said, if we go in for porary' factors. For example, Mr the production of steel, as was visua- M, N. Dastur who is considered to be:' Iised 'in the. White Paper, in 22 years .a steel expert in this country, said this country will get E:'xhausted of' that by the turn of this century if its coal production. The whole 'cok- we have to advance industrially and ing coal will get exhausted. I do if our economy is to progress,' the not agree with all these arguments. internal consumption of steel in this No expert will agree with this view. country should go to the extent of We have an enormous wealth of cok- 100 million tonnes a year. Now the ing coal and yet there are areas production that We have is hardly where w« have to find out the coal '7,5 million tonnes and also it is stated deposits in the hills of Nagaland, in 'ihat whatever, be the situation of the the hills of Himachal Pradesh, in 'lie internal market in the country to- Himalayan areas. There are vast de- -day, in 1980s this country will face posits of cool in these areas. Coal a shortage of steel and internationally deposits can be found out with the salso experts met in Vienna under help of the :GeologicalSurvey of Jndia the UN Ind~strial Development. Or- 'for meeting -the requirement of this ganization and they said in 1980s all country. over the world there will be a steel .sbortage. At that time'Mr. Patnaik If we open the flood gates for the cannot produce steel. In 1979 he multi-nationals to come in (as in cannot take a decision. and produce Kundramukhi Project Iran is invest- steel in 1980because it 'is said that a ing 'a lot of money) it will not help J6ngpE:.riod of gestation is necessary the interest of this country. _Multi- for the steel industry. So, we should nationals will exploit us. We will re- not base our future' planning of steel main in the old colonial order in a industry merely on the basis of some differenr.form. The form will. change, 'temoorary factors. 'If I .may be per- that is all. I think WI;!have to have emit.ted to say, the USA, Japan and 'll second· 'look at the propositions countries like that who are' big pro- made by the hon. members.. ' -ducers of steel in the world have not decided. to cut down their pro- -;;..I would also like to 'draw y01!~ '"'Iuction. attention about some of the cunning \

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moves made by Ministry in relation Is it not a fact that at the time of io the expansion programme of setting up Bokaro, we went to the Bckaro . and Bhilai. On-going pro- United States and they promised that .grammes are all right. Money has they are going to ~help us? But they been provided -for· that. But what went back. They were' not ready about the firial : goal that this coun- to help a public sector undertaking. try has set in-I'D million t onnes of Today I do not think there is . any .production for Bokaro and 7 million Messiah sitting ipthe Presidential tonnes production capacity for Bhilai. chair of the, Un.iied States. If you I think' you have said a good bye go in for it what does it mean? What t6 that. That is not in the interest is the rate+of interest? The rate of of this country and also they· have interest of the U.S. is' 3.5 per cent, taken a decision not to have colla- whereas the rate of interest of the boration with the Soviet Union. If Soviets and the socialist countries is this country can' afford to produce 2,5 ..p,er cent. Regarding the capacity .steel on its' own', I have no quarrel of the country to meet the' require- with that. It is good if we can go ments' M1'. Patnaik expressed his 'on Our Own for producing steel. Can dcubtg saying that they are hot ina wf-? I doubt very much. The Min- .position to meet. our requirements. I 'ister said, "We can." Two years ago would like to quote Mr. Hazari. He when the experts analysed the whole said this: -question and discussed' the Soviet collaboration in the case of Bokaro 'The East European countries It was told that 65 per cent of the and the Soviet Union are by and work of fabrication 'can be done by large capable of meeting the re- ourselves. But what about the rest- .quir ements . of this-country techno- 35 per cent? -It is for that that this logically' . country entered into collaboration with the Soviet Union. That colla- He also said: boration is scrapped. As a result of 'The East· European countries do that, what will happen? Either the not charge' anything separately as Government will have to go to West knowhow fees for their ,patents Germany or the Government will and processes, Drawing, blue-print have to go to the United States. Are and other tecl).nical' documents re- they ',goin'g to help us? Are they lating to the project are handed always friendly with us? -. over free of charge to us.'

So, these are some of the advantages. I know, perhaps, the Government So I would like to ask thE:' Minis- is trying to put into practice the ter to spell out as to what are the. philosophy enunciated by Shri Jaya intentions in this regard.. Are' you Prakash Narayan I quote from "Every going to reverse the whole ..thing? Man" of July 28, 1973- Are you doing to open the womb of India .for these multinationals to pene- z 'trate deep' into our country? -Is . it "Soviet Union could not meet the reason? . Are you going to' allow, our economic development. needs. collaboration of' multinationals with- India must diversify its economic out taking into account the question and st,rategic dependence by forg- of pollution in the country? 'I'hey ing and strengthening mutual ties are coming here to make profits .. Mr. with other nations and communi- Patnaik said that ours is a big coun- ties that ~re in a position to help ,try and pollution. is not a big prob- meaningfullv, such as West Euro- lem- but this, country will haVe "to pean Economic Community, Japan pay a very heavy price' if you allow and the US:A." indiscriminately these multinationals D.G: Min. of JUNE 28; 1977 Steel & Mines

.[Shri C. ,K<.Chandrappan] treated.them carefully with the know- l~dge_ that we have aI}d, with, the to come in., 'and, _po,ll~te.:,the whole c9Racity! that,,~e h~V:,e and found atmosphere, liic}udlng" water and tpiit the l pati~p.tt reco~ers and coz;nes 9th~ things., rf, it,Js, poljtical We b.aslY'h~~ltpy ... b;I1 .the Icontrarv.. you "fill'. MY~.tJ sp.fi'er· ~4cq riiorJ~ se-: ga~e a- 'd.ew, pshot,.,f.or mercy- killing: riously. :;: 'That is the. duty, that you, have im: ppsed . on i1. You ,ca~not ,do., that. , 'R,egarding the per-tonne cost of Tpat is not, the, '!lay. to .deal. with .the producing steel in, this country, it is problem, Since .the time is. less, I true 'that .the Rer-tonne cost now is dn',not, want to. ta~ much- time- of th~ B.s. 5,000. ,:'there ;'re fabourable fac- House, tors for iIs,to think ot bringing .down the per-tonne cost' of steel. We have i;Ab;~lUt the s~i~m Steel Plant, got vE:'ry big stock Of raw. materials everybody said that at this pace, it with us and ,enormous manpower and will take two -or. three decades. It sp, tar as the fabrication, is .concern- will be, a Il;Iirage." We will' n~veT ed, our country is really eapablo of l'each .the completion . of the Salem me~t.in3., .all its requirements. In Ste~l 'polant, V~;1g and ,Vijayanagar Bokaro 'we, could :do upto 65 .per cent. Ste~l PI~nt$.. I 'wQllld like the Min- If WE:' can bring OUr best talents, into ister to make a v,eJ,y cqtegorical state- this, we can do even more than that. ment here' that. the, steel plants will So" wee have'. got fairly good infra- be, there" Youqoubt.ed this because structure in our country so far as the you doubted whether th\,:T~, would production of .Jlteel is concerned. We he water availabil.ity, and whether have got the necessary kind of ex- the techriical fea;:;ibility of the plant pertise in regard to making designs, was there or. not.. You doubted that. in regard to construction, in regard But., I.,-think, $.ufflcie.J:ltexpert en- to operation of steel plants. Our ex- qui,ri~s:. werem?de before we had pertise is also sold abroad to Euro- gone in for. these.: SQ, in this HOUge, pean countries, ccuntr ies in Africa, let. us know whether the:' Andhra Latin-America and so on. So, I am people, w,ilI have this; plant ormots. sure, if the hpn. Minister takes. pro- , ' per steps, he. will be able, in the . , Coming to., another problem, in near future, to produc., steel at less- Kerala, we have got .a lot of iron-ore. er cost. But the main question is Your Ministrv concerned with the this. Is there a mind for it? If that mine had found out' that there was a will is there, then, I am sure, .there lot of iron ore and also bauxite de- is a way.. - posit. H,

15.00 hrs. I -requesr the Minister to, do some- 'thing to set up certain Industries Coming to certain other aspects, based on that- .Here, a word about 'Shrl Patnaik, while speaking in "the the iron-ore export. We still re- other H9u.se-I,thfnk it was in the main a kind of a colonial country for other House-said" that "I decl~re that the raw material base for the advan- the -min] steel plant in thi's country ~ed countries :'even' to-day. There is sick!'; he 'also added 'I am: also de- should b~ p.elle:tisatlQn plants, sponge daring that they are dead'. Is this iron project and" ¥ou have _to process the responsibility' of a Minister? --I that: . Then only you will , be able doubt very: much, It is like thjs thfo't to earn much more, than what. you efter- giving -a shot for:',mercy 'kiiling, earn 'by- merely .seitd.ing· the "iron .ore a doctor- i,s announcing that the pa- to other \!,(;lUn~rie~._·This W'!:? what tient is'-'dead': You'should nil have the U.N. also ,adv,is:eg.1:!s.namely_ that done. that .' 'The m!nisteel plants ,are we should remairias .an:ito;~.7Qre, ex- patients aner'the "Ministershould have porting country. ' D.G. Mm. of ASADHA V, 1899 (SAKA) Steel 6- flfme* aa*

would like you to make an en- Sir, MECON has entered into an quiry into the rusty steel scandal. agreement with Hecket Engineering All the papers reported about it— Company—an American multination- not only a section ot the papers— al I stand subject to correction If and even all the Economic papers In it is not MECON it might be some the country reported that If you other government agency What is want, I can give you the date when the benefit out of this agreement? this appeared m the press I think it was reported in Lhe Economic Sir, finally a word about the work- Times, Bombay in their 22nd May e r Mr Patnaik has certain views 1977 that 3.000 tonnes of lusty steel about the woike.s which are dan- weie sold at a throw away price to gerous In a seminar organised at some people Shri Patnaik and Shri Delhi he expressed those views, na- Pai might be knowing that the steel mely, the workers should not go in gets rusted when it is in the stock toi strike without first discussing yard But, noimallj what happens with the Steel Minister While we is that fiom the upper layer, the agree that there should be a discus- rusty steel is sold at a cheaper price sion my point is Can you insist on Nut, here, the entire stock 0f 3 0°° it as a pre-condition’ Secondly tonneis weie sold at a price which there are workers who have been was Rs 600 less than the market letrenchcd or weit imprisoned undci price Your Ministry’s top officials MISA Mr Patnaik has said that it is said, are involved m this I would thc\ will be given back the ;ob but like you to look into this matter not the benefits with rttrospcctive effect

Anodiei thing is about the sales THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND machmeiy of the steel Iheie are MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK) certain big stock yards m this coun- No No try whA stock the steel on bchalt of the various steel producing plants SHRI C K CHANDRAPPAN If and even they sell it Even to-day, you clarify, I will be onlj too happy when there is a glut in the market, Su a strike is going on an Jadugora they sell it at a black market price uranium mines near Jamshedpur What is happening is that we do not since 27th June I think the Minis- have the machinery to reach the ter has been informed about it A people in a wider region so that they large number of tribal people are can come and select and purchase it working there I would request you to intervene

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[Shn PabitrB Mohan Pradhanj They are something like business houses and industrial houses But world is a world of competition We their behaviour is not the same as that in India are going to have a socialist of industrial houses and business society and the society we are going houses Bv that I do not mean the to build under the Janata Government wny they talk the way they receive is a society based upon total revolu- us They give m their annual report tion which is more than *he communist and balance sheet, plus, minus, etc society, but based on democracy In and about production also They give this respett I want to give a suggestion of Lfnirse the quantity they produce as to how to use the minerals From Whatever they write may be right the vauous speeches I come to under But what ibout Balance sheet—every- stand that we must be very cautious body has doubts about the balance m spending the reserves If we go sheet 0* 1he entire Government, both on spending at a very fast rate I Stnte Governments and Central Gov- apprehend that withm a period of ernment and also the balance sheets 50 to 60 years the entire reserves mav of the corporations and the Govern- be exhausted I sound a note of ment owned public sector factories caution l0 the hon Minister to be very I hope that the hon Minister who parti ulm about this Although we himself knows the tricks of business ha\e verj large reserves still consider- and the finances of industry will take ing the vastne&a of the country and special cate to see that the balance the bignes*, of the population lestrves sheets submitted to the Government mav no1 last bevond 50 to 60 years and published arc true balance sheets India is a count ry with 60 crores of I doubt if in the balance sheet, the population at present It is one house true picture of income and expenditure The Government is the owner of the has been given The income might house The owner of the house must havc been given but not the entire think how to spend these reserves expenditure I doubt sincerely if the So expeno ture of the mineral reserves entire expenditure is given in many must be done m such a manner that rases In *1 few cases it might have at least for the coming 100 years there been given but not in many cases If may not be paucitv or dearth of these they include the pay of the managerial mineral reserves After these sugges- staff and otheig and also the payments tions I hate on*» complaint about the of instalments of capital and interest, Steel Ministry that will help us a great deal in under- standing the position I hope the From the various States recom- minister will *ake note of this mendations about grant of lease have been sent to the Central Government Coming to my State of Orissa, It is a matter of pity that for years I have some grievances against the together the Steel and Mines Ministry Government of India the Ministry of sits silent over the flle*t I am happy Steel & Mines and against the to learn that a few days back, the ex-Fnme Minister, Shnmati Indira hon Minister held a conference of his Gandhi I am not an enemy of stpff and he has very steml> directed Shnmati Indira Gandhi Everybody that withm a very short period these knows that Orissa is full of minerals files must he disposed of I hope the especially iron ore There is one steel Minister is very serious

■demanding and Quarrelling with the manufacture their commodities Of Government of India, but the Govern- late the Ministry has made a policy ment of India is not listening to us. th it no smaller quantity than a Tha present Minister also organised rakeload which means about 2000 tons an agitution, when he was out of the would be sold to any individual Government in Orissa, for the location factory owner sir in Onssa which is iather economically poor and where oi a second steel factory In that State J w*s Deputy Chief Minister in that there are no capitalists Oriya non-Congress coalition government people have established those foundries F r Patnaik was not in the Congress and the> cannot borrow Rs 10 to 15 lakhs to get a rakeload of pig iron then He became the President of the Xjtkal Congress But the Congress and deposit in their factory and go on paying the interest for the amount of people created such a situation that Rs 10 to 15 lakhs they borrow That nothing could be done The demand meBns by adopting this policy you for a second sieel factory in Onssa is ccnipel some medium inouslrialists to very genuine I do not thmk the elose down thoir industries and go on Minister alone can do it The entire C«wnet will have to do it Through looking for either service or for culti- you Sir. I implore entreat request vation if land is available Virtually and demand that a second steel factory some owners of foundries in Onssa shej’d h- located by Central Govern- have closed down their factories The ment in 'my place in Orissa I have factory owners are advised to purchase from Central depot by pajing Rs 95 no fane* for this place or that place Let it be at Nayagarh in Keonjhar more over and excess the ex-mill District as someone demanded or let price and this is uneconomic to th? it be at Paradip 01 some other place industrialists So the hon Minister I want that there must be a second vill take note of this and change the policy so that the small and medium steal plant in Orissa industrialists in this respect wiU get We have another demand At the benefit In this Janata Raj this Sargipally m Sundefbans District we capitalist system and this capitalist policy should be totally avoided have vast deposits of lead and there when I was Deputy Chief Minis- ter I was also Minister In charge of Mr Chairman I have taken much mines we had a scheme and infra of vour time I now resume my seat structure to establish a lead factory, with these words Once again I con- but nothing has vet been done clude by supporting the demands for grants moved by the hon Minister SHRI P K DEO The foundation- stone was laid by Shn Shahnawaz SHRI T A PAI (Udipi • Mr Chair- Khan at the time of election man Sir 1 had the privilege of being in charge of the Steel and Mines SHRI PABITRA MOHAN PRADHAN Ministry for some time m this coun- Yes But nothing has been done try and I know what Mr Biju Patnaik further and I hope the Ministry will inhented and I know the problems of take note of it and will begin the work development of the steel industry in earnestly At Sukhinda in Cuttack this country No doubt all the plants district there was to be another that we had planned in the First, factory, a nickel factory A scheme Second and Third Plans were g o t for it is there, but nothin* has b®e» executed m time In fact. 12 or 13 or done I have another grave complaint 14 years ago even in the ease of the against this Steel Ministry’s policy Bhilai plant we got only 4 or 5 per In Orissa we have some 12 to 15 foundries, Iron foundries, and from cent of the components made in this Rourkela steel plant those toonirle* country a n d Soviet Russia had to were getting scrap and pig iron to supply 9 6 per cent T o - d a y we have 235 D G- Min- oi JUNK 28, 1977 Steel & Mints 236

[Shri T. A. Pai] go-by, wtule a lot of staff is kept built up in this country such a capa- without work and salary is being paid city that even in the case of expan- to it. A time has come when we have sion of Bokaro, 92 per cent to 93 per got to think of it. Take for instance cent of it would come from India; and the Salem project. It has been said 7 per cent from abroad. But that does that we are bound to complete the' not mean that we have learnt the Salem project. Perhaps it may be technique of completing a project in completed before the other two time. It is a tragedy that in this southern projects. But against an in. country, time is not considered a very vestment of Rs. 150 crores, hardly important resource that a developing Rs. 15 crores has been provided. How country has. If it takes 5 or 3 times long will it take? This way of build, the time that is required in other ing up a project is very expensive. countries to complete a project, it The Minister’s predecessor had pro- begins with losses right from the vided a White paper. It was not be- beginning. Let us look-^t Bokaro. 1 cause we were capable of achieving am afraid it has taken more than t2 it. But 1 think it is better to have a yefcrs and an investment of Rs. 1500 dream, we say that we are one of the crores. II, for some reason or the largest producers of iron ore, and that other our financing methods of these we have got all the capacity needed— projects have gone wrong, it is time and I have heard the hon. Minister that we look at them; because we can saying that it is better to export not afford to have large amounts of finished steel than pig iron, and better money invested either in irrigation or to export pig iron than pellets; but in industrial projects with the best of the implementation of all this, it is intentions but getting nothing in re- essential to see what progress we have turn. That is going to be. and 1 sup- made and what resources we have pose it has been, one of the factors for provided. I find that there is cnly a growing inflation in this country; and talk. Even in the pelletisation plant a time has come when we get into the for Bailadilla, where the maximum of concept of commitment budgeting. If iron dust must now be pitting up, cr the proiect is taken seriously, the at Donamala, hardly Rs. 20 lakhs have finance Minister should present this been provided. I do not know what Parliament with the annual expendi. you can do with it. I do not know ture that he wants to incur on it year what is being provided with that by year, so that the Parliament knows amount. We do not have funds. All -when it is going to be complete; and these projects cost money. Mr. that should he the first item of com- Chandrappan said that it is wrong to mitment in the next budget that he get money from out-side. I must say provides. Otherwise, we were think- that even Soviet Russia and East ing in terms of bringing into existence European countries have, for their a National Development Bank with development, depended oft capital resources being provided both by the coming from Japan and other coun- Centre and by the States, and with tries. Of course, you can safeguard possibilities of borrowing from inter- your interests by providing any clause national institutions like the World that you like. These cannot be in the Bank, so that once the project is ap- private sector. They have got to be proved by the Planning Commission, in the public sector. After agriculture, it should be financed purely as a vis* the only source of providing large- able proposition by an institution; and scale employment i8 minerals. When It does not have to cum* through we say that local resources must be the budfet year after year. We have utilized for developing the industries, found that whenever money is short, what do we mean? Either it in agri. these Important projects are given the cultural resources or mineral resour* 237 D 0 - Mm- °f ASADHA 7, 1896 (SAKA) Steel ft Mine* *38

ces There are mineral resources in SHRI T A PAI; U is for you to the most backward Staten >f this ensure that you do not convert it into country like Orissa, Bihar or Madhya a white elephant. U is only a blue Pradesh where the wealth we have is print Today India is producing only the mineral wealth What do we have 1 5 per cent of the total steel produo / to do with It9 Do we keep quiet say- tion of the world Now with all the, ing it is too big9 Even the railway iroa ore resources that we have and system, which wac built in the past, with all our coal deposits, is this all had nothing to (In with the develop* that this country is capable of’ If we ment of these resources We know want to produce by 2,000 AD about 75 today that when it i±, a question ot mdlion tonnes, we have to change out mineral development it will have to strategy completely because this is be a total project, incorporating ship- not the way to achieve our dream of ping, ports railways and so on, all 75 million tonnes It is wrong to things will have to be dove-tailed and think i* is only a dream. I think our it becomes much more expensive I method and our approach to the pro- strongly believe, therefore, that a time blem will have to change if we want has come when we have to think of a to achieve this target by that time different strategy In the case oi bauxite, we have put What is wrong with the Kudr«.muk forward proposals to Soviet Russia project0 After a few years it is possi- We have said let us have a produc- ble for us to utilize it ourselves One® non programme agreement with 'ou. the borrowings that we have made you convert out bauxits into alumina from Iran are paid in terms of expoit and help u to export it because the wh>\hould we not have more of simi- production of aluminium zequireg a lar pioject7 If the Vwag plan* ha* great ani )unt of power That effoit anv chance to come up I think wt; was made and we puisued it with will have to think of getting foreign Iron I ('o hopv. that similar efforts investment involved m this and will continue even with Iraq for a oossibly a link uP with Japan which pelletisation plant collaboration. may be anxious to extend its own in- dustry It may be possible for them What I am hinting at i<», without to begin with pig iron or, later on. *>normous resources coming from out whatever they want from a plant like s de, most of these projects cannot be ♦his with loans coming from that bu>lt up within a reasonable time 1 rountrv I am only giving an exam- think the country should not hesitate n]? not that Japan in anxious tn this matter 1 would certainly agree with Shri Patnaik that if it is a question of providing employment, In the case of iron ore this country true that village industries will pro- is very rich Well, thare has been vide it but it will not solve all the very little develonrrrnt I may also problems in this country. Further, teU you that wherever you go more 'hfe capacity of the country and the and more iron ore is being found ard rinftd*nce of th r* country, they all de- there is a demand that th re 'hould pend upon its using its natural resour- be a steel plh.it everywhere It is thi* c e s Take tor mstanse nickel I Which encouraged your predecessor in know it was approved when I was a office to have a White Paper, once vr Minister I d o not know how far it know that we have these mineral re- has gone There has been a g r e a t d e ­ sources ip plenty w* have got to mand, but that project has not bean develop them. translated into a c t io n

'SHRI BIJU PATNAIK White Paper Take Kerala, for instance, My hon* or w hite elephant? friend, Shri George, said they h*v*» 2 & D.G Mm of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel & Mines 240

[Shri Biju Patnaik] who believe that multi-nationals alone will help us. But in respect of iron ore The Kerala Government, at these major industries, what alter- the time of Shri Achutha Menon had native do you have except getting come forward with a proposal that large funds &a we have done in the Czechoslovakia is willing to ollabo. case of Kudremukh and looking after rate with them to make special steel their development as quickly as Well if there is a possibility that possible so that m future we may lay Czechoslovakia ran give them assis- the foundations for utilising the tance have no inhibition as 1o le&ources for our own benefit’ whe*-e the money comes from So long as we get the money on mi* terms and without damaging our A comment has been made that the national honoui whether it comes hon Minister has been uncharitable liom Soviet Russia or from Czecho- to the mini steel plants I hope he did slovakia 01 from any other Western not predict their death, he was only countnes we must go in for that saying that they were dying, which is without any inhibitions After all, it a fact I am not saying that it is his is only those who have money that intention that they should die When can give it all others can only give SAIL was created its Chairman was a lecture why we should not take the the Secretary of the Steel Ministry money Since the whole wond is He thought m terms of creating a bu>y developing itself, I do not think situation where the interest, of the we can continue keeping quiet Even steel industry were not paramount. China, contrary to all beliefs I know He thought that SAIL was the steel when it comes to sophisticated tech- industry, that nobody else should nology, is as anxious as anybody to come in When SAIL came into get it fiom anywhere existence m 1974 20 per cent of the steel in this country was produced by the num steel plants Their produc- So far we have depended on loans tion was 1 20 million tonnes, when dtnd grants from others We thought the total production of integrated it was all free which is not true and plants was very low I would like to we thought that relf-reliance me%nt ask why even today we are not ab’e making even nuts and bolts in this to sell steel m this country At one country Therefore in the name of time it was so easy to sell steel We self-reliance we had also uneconomic find that if you create controls and pioduction in certain sectors We have only a few approved dealers, have to get away from this Self- you can create a tremendous demand reliance is the ability of the countiy Once that disappears, the demand also to earn free foreign exchange and disappears This industry was res- with that to buy any technology ponsible for creating black money at anywhere in the world I think this one time to the extent of Rs 400 to country cannot afford to have out- Rs 500 crores per year Therefore, dated, rejected technology from any- when these conditions disappear the where We have reached a stage steel industry will have to realise when the best of technology will have that it is not the master Is the steel to be sought industry today oriented to the interests of the consumers m this So, I am not asking for foreign country’ Those days are gone when capital to come into this country in they told the other industries to take driblets of Rs 10 or Rs 25 lakhs in it or leave it Now production will the name of collaboration for any have to be reoriented, they will have industry I do not want title multi- to be more efficient than they have nationals to come into this because, been before I hope the hon. Minister knowing the industrial structure of will not leave them to their own late, this country, I am not one of those but give them challenges for meeting 241 DG Min of ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mines

the requirements of the country difficulties Otherwise, we will continue to impoj t at least Rs 100 to Rs 115 crores Again, four Ministers of Steel & worth of steel every year Even now Mines beginning with Mr Mohan we are importing special steel If we Kumaramangalam, myself Shri Mala- export Rs 300 crores of ordinary steel viya and Shri Yadav, had promised and get other ste&, this country must that the price of steel made available be interested m adding to the per- to the small scale industry would be umt profat of the items that it manu- equated with that of large scale factures and exports Otherwise, it is industry but this has not been done a tragedy Please look into it We have been told that the indica- SHRI BIJU PATNAIK It has been tion of a countiy~ economic progress done is its, per capita consumption of steel SHRI T A PAI I am extremely But now we find that steel is not happy if it has been done Thu, is saleable I am g ad that SAIL is something which was eluding us be- making efforts to find out what kind cause the Finance Ministry had not of iural development it can bring made up its mind about by the use of steel I am glad you are looking for customers I hope SHRI BIJU PATNAIK We did not ask them you will see to it that the industiy is properly re-oriented SHRI T A PAI When the mint- steel plants were established, what Now I would like to draw his was their objective’ Their objective attention to the distribution system was to use the scrap After all, this We opposed the increase in the price industry even now, can specialise m of steel for very good reasons because making certain types of steel which I for one, believe that there is no may be uneconomic for large units to point m controlling the price of end- make in fact, when I came into the products in this countiy The prices Ministry I found that we were im- of raw materials at least will have to porting carbon steel and other speci- be stablised, they should be kept lised steel worth Rs 50 crores everv constant at least for a period And, vear merely because we had said that therefore, when the idea of SAIL was these were reserved for the public to increase the price m older to show sector without the public sector ma- profit, I was insisting that profits nufacturing them So, this kmd of might be made on the production and limited specialisation should be made not on the limited production that only by the smaller plants ]they havfct bad Now, afterwards, stockyards were arranged and rake- Again everybody knows that pro- ioads were arranged but how could duction of Steel tyr the Arc-Fumace3 the people make the payment and get is power intensive it is not as If the rakeloads I am sure it is not every Electricity Board has not given unknown to the Minister that them in writing that they will give the price of steel went up by power and they had invited all the Rs 200 to 300 by this stock-yard States and public financial institutions arrangement and the profits had also provided them Rs 250 crores for increased The stockyards made the this industry At that time, the consumers to pay a much higher price was high and the Gov* pnee I would like him to look into efnment thought that they should this because if he wants to make a mop up the surplus by excise straight forward increase in the Now, they continue to collect even pnee of steel, It is welcome but let when the price is not there and they us not try to cwat* other sources of are not saleable. In this country, profit o*er an item by creating mo- there is a strange argument of loss nopoly conditions and creating such of revenue if excise is reduced 243 DG. Mm, of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel k Afmet 344

[Shn T A Pai] have a wounderful chance to do a** Please do what we did not do I am generally given by the Finance I?e“ partment They forget there is no sure you are capable of it Other- wise, the people will think that you tax on non-production II b unit cannot produce, they cannot collect and we are the same the tax So, they cannot say that I would Uke that the importance they are losing So, it is letter to of the steel industry is appreciated keep them alive so that if not now, and that we think from a laige- m future they will be able to pay the perspective Take foi instance, tax that is expected of them countries like Kuwait and Middle- Of course in the Budget, the East countries The moment they Finance Minister has said that hfc had money eveiybodj- thought that transferred the excise from the rol- (hey should have a steeJ plant be- ling plants to the mim-steel plants cause steel became a symbol of pio- ioi his administrative convenience gress But theie are still countries His administrative convenience will like Kuwait wheie thev do not have cirtainly kill all small plants because the man-power They have to import al tad> they aie m the financial all the man-power, even including distress Novi they have to find ad- raw material I think we should ditional money for excise Let them have a dialogue with them that we be in existence Now you say that ate aol»* to manufacture thi steel they can diveisify Who will fiive that they require with tneir capital the money for diversification when also coming m their balance-sheets are showing losses’ Unless the development On this side wt have been always concept is that this industry also re- the strongest advocates ot a stiong quires modernisation finance on soft steel mdustrj m this country I for terms just like any other industry one always believe that gigantism is even their investment will go I not the only answei that th s couilrv would request the Minister that tb^ should follow There is no pont m is taken up with the public financial sayinp that we will manufacture 7 institutions million 01 10 mil ion tonnes of steel In the past steel got lot of impor- when oui capacity to manage a tance but I am afiaid non-ferrous smaller plant Ins proved *o be better metal did not than to manage a bigger plant When This yeai for instance, the produc- there is a break-down in a bigger plant wf are completely ruined The tion of aluminium is going to be lew concept of gigantism will have to go merely becausc there is power shor- Then many countries of East Europe tage Of course I saw m the news- which are poor in these resources papers that he has declared it as a have been trying to re-cje^ u*e policy that they can have their cap- minerals and the waste The fullest tive plants But they do not have encouragement should be given for the money The money also wj H have to be provided for captive re-cycling the waste and, m that way, that will also become « very impor- plants tant industry SHRI BIJU PATNAIK You should have done five years ago In my coaatal area, there is a poor SHRI T A PAI We now expect quality bauxite available for the manufacture of aluminium soviet you to do what we did not do Ruasia uses poor quality bauxite lor Otherwise, what is the use of a® alternative Government’ An alter- manufacturing aluminium tn this courrtry, when God has gtoa u* both native Government promises to do nch quaity and poor Quality Kfcttite, what we did not do To say that we 'did wA do is not a compliment wt do ntH'tawm v'naX Xo tjae.1*?* go tm D.G. Min. of ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mines ■247 D.G. Min. of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel & Mines

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[Shri Govinda Munda] industry which is generally taken up in the economically backward tribal einment of India, that there is need regions of the State and is also subs- to establish a second steel plant at tantially labour-intensive Very often Nayagarh in the district of Keonjhar when the agriculture production is Foi the last 10 years our people ot affected by a bad monsoon, it is the Keonjhar district and the people of mining industry which is providing Orissa in general have demanded for alternative employment for the rural this thing How this has been neg- people In this background, once the lected I do not know I earnestly Jakhpura-Banspam railway line is request the Government, the populai completed there will be immense Gmrnment the Janata Government benefit for the tribal areas of this to piease look into it and do it imme- distnct by way of vastly improved diately otheiwise we will be very employment opportunities mucn ungrateful to the Government I hope that the Central Government About 2 million tonnes of iron ore would not disappoint the people of are now being despatched from •'he Keonjhar of Orissa Badbil-Banspam railway line for export via Paradip This is being 1627 hrs faken by a roundabout route via Raj- kansva and Kharagpur There is [Sum M S a t y a n v r a y a n R a o in the the efore an additional cost of Ks 15 Chair] p tonne incuired by the Mineral and Metal Trading Corporation Oice Let me speak in On>a the direct link is established the iron •Keonjhar district is well-known ore can move through the short-cut for its mineral wealth A large num- *rom Banspam via Jakhpura and bei of Iron Ole and Manganese Cuttack to Paradip, saving Rs 3 crores Mines ait situated around Barbil and of freight per year The diversion of Banspam Railway Stations and aie the traffic will not necessarily result feeding the Steel Plants as well as m any loss to the Railways because export they can utilise the same tiaffic capa- citj to move additional iron ore from Tnough a ot of prospecting efforts Badbil-Banspam sector to Haldia have been made in this area there Tm will result in the increase of the are also very good prospective area total mmeial production m this area furthei inside the District In this and thereby lead to a great improve- connection I would like to mention ment m the employment of the tribal the recent discovery of bauxite of people of this area good quality near village Kuanr m We have been anxiously looking the Bhuyanpirh area Such deposits forward to the establishment of a has not come to Ume-hght earlier Steel Plant near about Nayagarh of because they were too far from rail Keonjhar distnct This was proposed head and there was no possibility of over 10 years ago and we had been economically working such minerals often informed that this Steel Plant However I am very glad to know that would be taken up w the next round the Jakhapura-Banspani Railway line of new Plants The people of Keon- has been taken up For a proper jhar distnct sincerely hope that Gov- development of the natural resources ernment would give serious consi- of this District this rail line is very deration to the proposal now essential I would only request that the construction of this line should SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrack- very much be speeded up and pore) Sir, while speaking on the completed in the shortest possible Demands of the Ministry of Steel and time We find that mining is one Mines, 1 take the opportunity ot

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congratulating Shri Biju Patnaik for Mr Chairman, Sir, an injustice taking over this new Ministry has been done to my State in the Though he is_not here his counter- grants of the Steel Ministry for this part his colleague, the Industries year Sir, Eastern India is the heart Minister, is here and I hope he will and head of the steel industry in convey my views to Shn Patnaik India Both the public sector and We remember Shri Patnaik as a private sector steel plants—excepting piodigy of Shn Jawaharlal Nehru, Mysoie Iron and Steel Works—are in who was a dreamer and exponent of eastein India, namely m the three the public sector in this countiy The States of Bengal Bihar and Orissa steel mills m India which he calls ‘as the new temples of new India, were Now we have this Durgapur Steel built up m his time Before Indepen- Plant which for a long time is sup- dence we had only two small steel posed to be the sick baby among the steel mills Whenever in the past plants in the private sector But m any demand had been made from thirty years after Independence the stse 1 Ind/s As* a Bengal for expansion of Duigapur it long way Paiticularly last year was was said that due to bad industrial relations the capacity of Durgapur a good yeai for the steel industry when we produced ten million tonnes could not be expanded Sir last year of steel Though it was very small was a y « r of unpiecedented peace as compared to the advanced coun- in Duigapui whcie the capacity utili- tries a small country like Japan had sation went up to 68 per cent In- pioduced 120 million tonnes of steel spite of that m this year s grants then the U S A had produced 130 million has been no provision for any ex- tonne-. of steel a big countiy like us pansion in the Durgapur Steel Plant producing 10 million tonnes of steel What is more dangerous in the case of is of course no mean achievement oui State is that there is an allotment Compated to what we had in 1947 of rupees one crore and odd only far the Alloy Steel Plant Together with this is definitely a maiked advance- this small provisions for the alloy ment Bu' in spite of this production steel plant the Steel Ministry has last year there was demand recession as a result of which we could not sell taken a decision to reduce the duty on impoited stainless steel I have all the steel we produced in the written a letter to Mr Patnaik this domestic market The SAIL had to morning on this aspect Up-till now go out for export and last year we the imported and indigenous steel managed to export about 14 lakh tonnes o£ steel Just because steel were available at par They were bemg sold at the same price With did not sell last year there seems to the reduction in the import duty the be a new theory floating m this imported steel will become much country, namely when we produced cheaper as a result of which the Alloy such a small quantity and the people Steel Plant will have to be closed of this country do not have the pur- down So I request Mr Patnaik to chasing power then what is the point consider this matter m the interest in having the steel plants Let us of our State and give protection to export all the steel and let the coun- this public sector steel plant which try go bade to agriculture This is a utilised 93 per cent of its capacity last dangerous theory to which I hope, year I also bring to the attention ot Mr Ptotnalk does not subscribe I hope the Steel Minister the condition of ttoe he will bring his dynamism to the Indian Iron and Steel Company In ngw Ministry and not only put the 1972 the Government of India had steel industry on better footing but taken a decision to take over the •Iso change the structure of the Indian Iron It Steel Company to safe- Indian economy so that such a small guard the interests of the nation end production does not go unutilised also that of the workers from the 993 LS—-9. hands of a very incompetent manage- 25*9 D.G Min. of JtffiS 28, Wll Steel & Mines * 6o

[Shn Sangata Roy] not go on exporting our precious raw materials ment I would like to submit that in the test five years, very httle has been Not only that I would also sub- done to modernise it and to complete mit that the terms of export trade the modernisation work, it is taking whieh MMTC has entered with Japan a very long time I understand the formerly are still continuing and it is work is still going on The produc- not at all favourable to us It is less tion of one million tonnes should be than the. world market price I aihieved at the earliest so that the think the hon Minister will take money invested m this unit may not a tion to change the terms of trade go waste I would also bring to the notice of 1640 hr* the hon Minister abou+ the condition of the private iron ore mines m this TMr Spkaki-r in th e Chav ] countiy Our Adivnsi fuend has all eady pointed out some of the flaws I have Cot anothei point to bring But he ha not suggested the ultimate to the notice of the hon Mini ter so ution The solution does not lie m that is with ropird to the Bokaro the leasing it out to somebody else Steel w huh has got rollmj mills Though this matenal is being canalis- Foimerlv the design foi this unit was ed thiough the MMTC it is necessary based on Soviet Design The Soviet to take over these mines from the Union had promised a credit of puvate owners This will also put an Rs 2500 t rores foi the project But end to the sufferings of the workers recently the Steel Ministry has taken Not only that Theie is a nefarious a decision foi changing the design of thing going on in this country yet the plant and give this design work In the small Union territoiy of Goa, to MECON which is a subsidiary of there are companies which have SAIL The MECON has dtveloped a monopolised this trade They are high experties and it is setting up a Chougules Salgonkars and Datrpos «teil plant m Nigeria But I would They are not only owning the mme3 have bun verv glad if MECON did but they are expoitmg the ote to the woik out its own design for this foreign countries through their owft plant For this purpose MECON is ships Chougules have got their own going to tie up with the V-United barge* and ships to eairy the ore and Davy Ashmore Company of the They almost own the port of Mormu- United State of America as a result gao I appeal to you that you should of which not only will it not be able consider taking over at least the ex- to utilise the Soviet credit of Rs 10 0 port of iron ore ftom Goa so that a crores but also the amount that has great loss to the national exchequer already gone into civ;l engineering can be saved works will be wasted I would theiefore lequest Mr Patnaik to look Lastly, I would request the hon. into this and give us a satisfactory Minister to consider opening of steel answer K number of Members have plants in the Southern States 1 would pointed out the flaws in the export like to remind him that an assurance pohcy of raw materials from this to this effect has already been given country It is true that in a country to the people of Tamil Nadu, Andhra like ours where capital is short where Pradesh and Karnataka And also a foreign exchange reserves are not small one in Kerala X hope before adequate, it may sometimes be neces- giving in to the pressures from his sary to export raw materials, but my own, native people which is only submission is that a country has to natural because he hits become a look forward to the next hundred Minister, ha should fulfil the commit- yearn ot so In such a case, we can- ment of the previous government 2'01 ·D.o.. Min. of ASADHA 7, 18-99 -,SARA) steel & Mine! :eel & Mines 260 , Steel Industry has come a long way in produce steel cneaPfy in our country [porting our precious this country and with 1400 crores of and compete successfully in interna- money investment in the public sector tional market, making good profits. I in this industry, it is a sector in which therefore suggest for the kind and . I would also sub- the public sector has achieved com- sympathetic consideration of the hon. ms of export trade manding heights. r hope Mr. Patnaik Minister the establishment of a second s entered with Japan will not only continue to keep up the steel plant at Sukindh in the district I continuing and it is .commanding heights of the economv of Cuttack or at Nayagarh in Keonjhar. able to us. It is less but will take it up to greater heights. I can say that there will be no problem ld· market price. I of land, water, electric power, labour Minister will take SHRI- RAMACHANDRA MALLICK or raw materials. Sukindh is centrally ~ the terms of trade. (Jaipur): Mr. Speaker, I am thankful situated and is surrounded by Keonj- to you for the opportunity you have har, Dhenkanal, Mayurbhanj, Bala- Iring to the notice of given me to speak on the demands of l'--about the condition sore and Cuttack. 'I'his place is grants of -the Ministry of Steel and 'on ore mines in this nearer to J'ajpur-Keonjhar Road Rail- .divasi friend has Mines. At the same time I must con- way station. There are vast areas in JUt some of the flaws. gratulate the hon. Minister Mr. Biju Sukindh which are vacant and which uggested the ultimate Patnaik who is of a socialist mind, he can be utilised' for this purpose. lution does not lie in is very active and dynamic person in Further I want to say about water ut to somebody else. nature. I hope that under the leader- supply. The rivers Baitarani and "rial is being canalis- ship of Mr. Patnaik the Ministry of Brahmani are there and they will r1:MTC,it is necessary :Steel and Mines and the related indus- serve the purpose easily. lese mines from the tries will progress satisfactorily. I This will also put an also hope that this ministry will make The Paradeep port is' there nearer rings of the workers. rapid progress towards self-sufficiency to Sukindh which can help in export. There is a nefarious and will also do more exports earning I want .to draw the attention of the in this country yet. valuable foreign exchange for our Minister and the hon. Members of lion territory of Goa, country. This ministry can change Parliament to the quantity and value ipanies which have the economic conditions of the country. of iron and chrome ores exported is trade. They are It is needless for me to say that the through Paradeep Port during the mkars and Darr.pos. Ministry of Steel and Mines has to play year 1972-73. 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Compared to the advanced countries large licence for the import of stain our production is little USSR with a less steel from Japan for a considera population of 220 million is producing tion as m the case of oil which Mr 100 million tonnes of steel USA with Dharia was elaborating Everything a population of 200 million is produc- for a consideration The elections are ing 141 million tonnes, Japan with 100 coming MLAS and MPs have to be mill on is producing 110 million tonnes bought So let us bring stainless India with a population of 650 million steel from Japan for a consideration which as I understand is the population and destroy our own public sector is producing 4 8 million tonnes of steel rhit is the socialism which Mrs Gandhi understood but we do not The cost of production here as I understand it ranges between Rs 1 500 What hnppened to their Industrial to 1 800 per tonne and export price is Policy Resolution that steel production in the range ol Rs 1 254 to Rs 1 356 should be m the public sector’ When I hope Shri Patnaik will corroborate 1ISCO was taken ov-»r why is it that me when I say this Therefore you are the Tata Iron & Steel Co was not subsidising the rich advanced nations nationalised7 Is it bccause there is a from the coffers of the poor Indian powerful lobby here’ nation The Indnn puce is about double Sir if you want to make an I request the hon Minister to look additional 100m in your place m into the matter of the Kalta Mines in Andhra Pradesh Orissa owned by ^Hindustan Steel The management said that they agreed MR SPEAKER No I do not want to the demands of the workers but on it >8 h Tune they sent policemen and magistrate This is not good thing SHRI J\ OTIRMOY BOSU In two The v orkers and management should jears we have increased the price of come together steel for domestic consumption three times I would like to know why billets are being exported Is it not a There is another dangerous thing conspiracy of the foreign consumers’ I am not being parochial, because a Now they have brought down the communist is never parochial The built-in capacity for pellets at least in national retention price of steel should three countries namely USA Japan be reviewed because it has reversed and West Germany by 30 to 40 per the economic process of the country cent Why7 Because they can get I will give an example What has hap- billets from you at a much lower price pened to the economy of eastern Therefore they have shut down their India’ The built-in capacity of the plants and they are now exploiting engineering industry is remaining Indira Gandhis socialist India which idle but they are creating new capa- has a public sector What is the city in other areas Black sheets are position in wagon building9 It has being taken from the mills m Bihar, come to the lowest step The expect Orissa and West Bengal to Bombay ed requirement of the Calcutta Metro and Gujarat Steel almirahs are politan Transport was 150,000 tonnes being built there and again transport* but the actual was IS 000 Hooghly ed to Calcutta That sort of economic* Bridge anticipated a requirement of is this’ I do not understand this 60.000 tonnes and the Bbatmda project So this national retention price of 50.000 but in actual practice they have steel must be reviewed dispassionate- come to a virtual stop Our steel ly, and it should be put right because plant in Durgapur is facing difficulties it is reversing the growth of economy. Why is it? Because the previous You should not be guided by these Government Has given a fantastically phoney vote-catching slogans 275 DG Min of JUtfS», 1077 Steal & Mine, »?6

[Sim Jyotirmoy Bosu] head of the Engineers India Lunited and Member, Planning ComouMUm Coming to alumMum, this is one was greatly interested in Bechtels. ot the vital metals today The diffi- Since the end of 1975, he has been em- culty with the transport system is its ployed with Bechtel Corporation of teeth-tail ratio I said it ten years USA first m Canada later in San ago, but I have not been able to get Francisco and lately as Management it into the skulls of the Ministers Trainee You can either confirm or They are digging their own graves deny the fact The brother of previ- Aluminium is most necessary for the ous Steel Ministry Secretary and Chair- transport industry, but all the four man of SAIL works for Bechtel in San plants are in the private sector, and Francisco Whether it is a fact or not, they go on blackmailing the Govern- I want to know The cost of this pipe- ment line in Kudremukh is hundred per cent more at. compared with the pnee SHRI T A PAI One is in the pub- quoted b> William Bros Engineering lic sector Compam This means six million SHRI JYOHHMOY BOSU Yes, T dollar extra is being paid to the Berh am aOiry tels The decision about this tender They are now manufacturing luxu- was taken withm two hours How prompt they are’ If we write a letter ry goods dabbling in blackmarket- we wont get a reply even in six months mg of aluminium sheets Why is not but m thi< case they were very prompt the aluminium industry being nation- The mom contractors were ordered ah'sed’ It is veiy important It is that Bechtels should be accommodated the lightest metal which can be us*d With the ioint efforts of Birla-, and for transport Maruti Bechtels were brought back m The Kudremukh project'with Iranian order to help Sanjay The then Petro- finance is, expec+eu to earn billions leum Minister who was a Member of of dollars in foreign exchange and this House directed the Goa Chief the\ have received the first instalment Minister to go slow with the antt-pollu- ot 100 million dollars as advance The tinn move against the Birla Zuary iron ore is to be transported through Aero-chemicals This Kudremukh pro- a pipeline They say it is. very modern ject is a huge drain of US dollar I but I know that it is out-datel smct demand a probe should be instituted 1970 The Bechtel Corporation which jnto it I certainly expect the Minister was indicated by the Takru Commit to come before the House within six *»ion have been inducted The Com months to say that these are the im- mission have said that their actions provements that he has been able1 W were mala fide and that favouritism effect in it was shown to Bechtel by people who SHRI S KUNDU (Balasore) I want were power Non-justiflable pay to start with an old story Sir, you merits not sanctioned by Government of are aware that in 1965 when you were India were P « d and they also receiv- the Steel Minister a memorandum was ed the same The Commission made given to you from Orissa saying that very adverse comments about this there should be a steel plant «i Bowta— company—B«chtel But influential in- Naysgarh The Dastur Committee re- terests withm the then Government ported to the Government in 1963 that and from outside end person* like Da* all the three eastern region ore-based dachanji a great friend of foreign en- locations at Nayagarh, Barakot and terprises brought back Bechtel* again Boviagarh are considered suitable tor for this slurfy pipeline which h*i been large integrated steel fflantt But you installed at Kudraaiukh The forme* would be sorry to know that t® this has not been done In Wt\, when 277 DQ. Min Of ASADHA 7, 1899 ($AKA) Steel ir Mine# 278: there was strike and all that, we were high. I do not know how other coun- assured about locating a steel plant in tries sell steel cheaper than us We Orissa But later on, these three steel use ojfe containing 55 per cent iron plants were announced at different content whereas Japan and Western places and purely on political conside- countries use ore containing 34 to 35 rations. per cent iron content Then, we use 8BQ Kg ot coke per tonne while the SHRT K LAKKAPPA (Tumkur) Western countries and Japan use 500 That w%Il affect the interest of Karna- to 60o Kg coke per tonne Again, re- taka fractory consumption of steel per tonne is IS Kg compared to 3 to 4 Kg per SHRI S KUNDU I want m the best tonne m other countries If we can save 1 Kg consumption of refraetlorty, interest of India that wherever it is we can save about Rs 7 lakhs per feasible it should be located If a steel million tonne of steel Our young plant is feasible even at the top of engineers must answer these questions Himalayas it should be located there Are '°u satisfied Mr Lakkappa7 There must be some sort of a real war on technology Othewise our poor country wil] not be able to spend so With all anguish 1 want to appeal much of money on these capital mten- to the new Minister that he should not Mve projects, like, steel plants and be pressurised by other groups of per other things . sons, who have not taken country’s in- terest but have taken political interest m deciding where the location of steel Coming to SAIL and HSL, the SAIL plant* should be Even when Mr was formed with very good ideas The Bhagat was there he said in the Rajya SAIL was formed m 1972-7? At that Sabha that the location studies were time, it was said that the SAIL' wfl! being conducted and that it will be coordinate and bring about unifor- located m Bonaigarh I would request mity The intention was that it will the hon Minister to follow it up concern itself more with policy and planning and that it will not concern I do not want to detail the whole iteself with actual operation or pro- story There is so much justification duction or any such other things that there will be cheap raw material There was some apprehension that there will be cheap ingots the carry- the holding company may perhaps ing charges will be cheaper and all have a tight hold on administration that LVen in 1967-63, when the Orissa and other things In this connection, Government had wanted it, the Cong- I would like to refer to an article ress Government did not give us the written by Mr Bagaram Tulpule report which Dastur had submitted to who was one of the managers of the them, certifying the report* about the Durgapur Steel Plant and who, through steel plants which were to be located his labour brought out the Durgapur in Goa, Salem and other places I Steel Plant from its sick condition want that Justice should be done " and, when it came to full stream he was kicked out and he left it In his article published in the Economic Secondly about the technology in- and Political Weekly dated January volved in manufacturing steel, I want 8 the hon Minister to go very far in im- 1977, he states proving the technology I have got reports that in spite of the very cheap "The hoard of directors of SAIL things available here, the raw materi- was reconstituted, at least thrice als, the labour, toad* building and other within the first three yea& of its things *»d pe*he*>«, criir or# being existence. Apart flrom, the full- 1/Sth cheaper as cottpared to Western time directors, there was tittle con- countries and Japifi, our sfettt 91M* ft tinuity to the tenure of other d in e- 3*79 D G Mtn of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel & Mine* 280

I Shri S Kundu] it would not be so The profit would have been more by about Rs 39 crore tors For a brief spell of a few This profit has not been there Per- months m 1974, I wag also nominat- haps less subsidy has been given for ed to the board From what I saw export If we export with this sort of its working durmg those few of subsidy, perhaps this country months, and from what I saw of would not have been able to sustain the working of SAIL as a whole, such a financial burden It was clear that its culture was entirely different from that of HSL There seemed to be much less open- There are aieas of corruption, there ness, too many things depended are areas of losses I would like to upon the verdict of the chairman identify the areas of corruption, loss- who was, it was s>aid, not easily es sale and purchase It is said that accessible even to his own full- the fabricated items which are ut>ed time directors Nobody was left m m Rourkela are brought at Rs 23 000 any doubt about •who the boss was but if you manufacture them it can Indeed a highly centralised, autho- be done at a ro*t of Rs 5 000 This ritarian organisation had clearly matter may a’so be enquired into come into being m sharp contrast There aie other areas of corruption to the open, participative, friendly like disposal of spane-parts, jobs, cultuie of HSL ’ labour contract system sa e of waste products like steel scrap and s,o on I think, the Chairman is not there These aie causing a lot of hardship now It is high time that the hon to all of us here Mwistei also made a policy pronoun- cement as to how he is going to lay down the future policy about it and Then we want that the steel must what is the clear distinction between be healthy because steel and electri- the work of SAIL and HSL city are indicators of the real growth of the country But m a developing country like ours, it is not only ne- I would like to know from the hon cessary that our industry should be Minister one thing more During production-oriented but it should be the Emergency period when we were profit-oriented also We had seen in jail, the radio used to blurt out that the hollowness durmg the emergency the production had gone up, the pro- period Nobody could buy You can duction had gone up and so on see the conditions of the people and the level of their poverty Do not The Report is there It is true that lristake us We are not opposed to the production has gone up The pro- heavy industry, but we do not cer- duction during the last three-four tainly want heavy industry In 1967, consecutive years has been going up I went to Ranchi 1 remember that My friend should bear m mind that heavy industry was there. With the production had gone up not only scarce money, they were having durmg the emergency period but even heavy industry and they were pro- otherwise it has been going up ducing only 70 per cent of the total You can see the Report which has production Can a country like this been published by SAIL for the with such a fashionable big Industry financial yeai ending 31st March, afford to have such a big industry 1978 It says, “The company earned Even in Europe, they do not have big a net profit of Rs 4660 crores m industries. The point is that we 1975 76 agamst the profit of Rs 48 42 are gang to fix the priority, but the crores in 1974-75 and so on" The priority must be fixed in agriculture profit for the year would have been and small industry. more, but due <0 a number of factors, 2$ I D,G Mtn of ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mine* 282

In that way, the strategy of new shall ensure that they are not quite development must be drawn up and dead, we shall take necessary fiscal the Janata Government is drawing measures, m consultation with my up the strategy in that way To colleague, the Finance Minister, and conclude, I take the big empire, the other measures which we can think steel empire Many workers have been of through the Steel Authority of troubled and dismissed from the ser- India for obtaining the raw materials vice Some days ago, about 50 peo- like scrap and so on The industry ple cam» to see me and they told which was boin out of an euphoria that duTmg the emergency period, of delusion of grandeur, of a great they had been troubled I xequest deal of surplus money has suddenly the hon Minister to see that this sort found itself like a plucked hen Even of fear should not be there so since it happens, to be on the soil Croreb and ci ores of 1 upaes have of India we will ensure that it does been pilod up profit by these four survive I have no sympethy for these magnets, but the minimum wages arc people but I can assuie you that I not paid to the workei s Even the will see that they survive because the mmimurr wage of Rs 8, wheiever it House desires it The other day I is fixed, has not been paid In Orissa, was pleading with Mr Subramamam the Labour Officer had recommended when I made an intervention I asked Rs 18 as the minimum wage In him What kind of planning is this*' Coal mdustiy it is there After tak- When you are short of power, you put ing a lot of tiouble the minimum up mini steel p ants which consume wage of Rs 18 was sanctioned by the a great deal of powei what sort of Government plinmng is this’ When your mte grated steel plants produce four mil- During the emeigenev my union lion tonnes you create capacity for was completely thrown out of office another four million tones' It u> a My union office was demolished and total y wrong planning It was not my union workers were troubled planning at all It was allowed to Even the mimmurr wages were not grow like a mushroom because there paid I request you to see that the was a great shortage of steel Mer- minimum wages are also paid and chants became the owners And the that these wages should be increased House demands that I save these mer- to Rs 18 chants Only because you demand so THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND I shall save them I have no sym- MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK) Mr pathy for them, but they will b« Speaker Sir, I must, at the outset saved thank all my hon colleagues m this House for giving me the types and I have a great deal of sympathy foi varieties of information which would that little man who ib making littl< make almost an encyclopaedia of plates, katories and things like thai knowledge I expect that most of from st? m ess steel, he buys stainles them are true or near the truth steel rods from the government fac tory at Durgapur, he has mtroduce< Before I proceed with the heavies his own engineering, he employs hi as they are like the steel plants, alu- minium plants, the big mining opera- whole family for making steel, to tions and things like those, I would polishing it and fbr making little pot like to dispose of some smaller but and pans I have and my Ministr rcore vexatious matters which have have, after considerable deliberation with all these little indigenous manu been agitating my colleagues in this House facturer, come to the conclusion the the policy of substantial reduction 0 On the question of dying mini steel import duty on stainless steel has, pet plants, 1 can assure the House that I haps, been a little hasty Therefon 283 Min of JUNE 28, 197? Steel & Mine* 284

[Shn Biju Patnaik] must move out of and the only 'ism;* should be, what 13 good for the coun- I and my colleagues, the Finance Mini- try and pragmation should be the ster and the Commerce Minister, are only ism’ that we should adopt I do trying to put our heads together to not subscribe to the view of some of ensure that this small indigenous in- my friends that ‘ism’ pervades every- dustry not only survives but albo thing I have therefore, decided as a flourishes That will also, incidentally, matter of policy and I have instruct- save the Durgapur Alloy Steel Plant ed my Ministry to clear this cobweb because, I have learnt that, the mo- of little fel ow b with ten acres, ment this policy of reduction of duty twenty acres and thirty acies Theie was announced all the sales orders on is something called peoples sector or government stainless steel plants have national sector, where they do not been cancelled Therefore, a certain make a great deal of money They amount of rethinking is required, and are not capitalists they are not mo- we shall ensure that the correctives nopolists and what is more important are applied very soon is that these thousands of little fel- There axe two or three small items lows can provide employment to ten which I wish to dispose of There twenty 01 thirtv thousand people was—I think Mr Saugata Hoy was not which is very important for the coun- here—a cut motion on wolfram mine try today I am telling to the House in favour of Gauripur Industries very clearly that as far as public sec- Perhaps Shn Saugata Roy thinks tor is concerned laige areas Idee that it is a very big nr me dealing manganese, chiome or whatever it is, with big metals It is not liue Al- and iron ore '.hall be reserved for the though it has got 2000 and odd acres public sector, but little things must prospecting licence or lease licence, be released full} There ii such a the total availability of a very low thing called peoples’ effort which grade wolfram occurs m only 5 45 must not be smothered in a policy acres and Shri Saugata Roy wants me which is not workab e to nationalise it It is a very small Some hon Members referred to the matter and Government does not pro- llmemte deposits neai Ratnagin It pose to take it over and Government is not a part of this Ministry, that ptoposes to renew the lease of this belongs to the Department of Atomic gentleman or whosoever he is, so that Energy, because it is a a are earth It he can raise two tonnes or five tonnes is in Keiala II is also very laige of this matenol and that mav go to and a very viable quantity in a place the Durgapur plant etc called Gopalpur on the shore between Then, there u> the question of small Andhra and Gopalpur belt It m of rarne owners I fmd, thousands of ap- excellent quality and very good depo- plications have been lying in this sits All that needs to be taken Ministry foi j ears, What was the care of policy of the prev ous Government’ I I will now deal with certain other do not know When we take up the subjects like the incident at Dalli- public sector, we talk of large things, Rajhara Iron ore mine near Bhilai It we talk of large investments, we ib most unfortunate that firing should talk of large control and we talk of have been resorted to by the police commanding heights You do not Ten persons were killed on the spot think of little little things You pass a and one died in the hospital Besides, resolution that this ore must be in pub some persons were wounded also. It lie sector without thinking whether is my view that this could have been this ore it available m an area of avoided I am rather surprise that two acres, two hundred acres or 20 even after the change of the Govern- square arile*. Therefore, this commit- ment, the police at places continue*; to ment to ‘ism* is something which you he trigger-happy This Government 4*5 {Xtif. Min. of ASADHA 7, 189ft (SAKA) Stoel & MiUt 286

does not appreciate continuance of friends got killed, their colleagues Uifti attitude of our police force in got killed and right way down in the India. The Prime Minister has said mines. time and again that the police must Therefore, I would like to say and use the minimum force in situations in fact I would like to have my like this. Even if a couple of police- colleague, the Labour Minister agree men are locked up for a few hours, in that, that we may consult a few it does not make tremendous odds. senior Members of Parliament that, That does not mean that you should having had this accident which is •boot people. I have ordered my born out of lack of knowledge—you General Manager who had given may call it callousness—we do not Rs. one thousand to the families of take such action that would dampen each deceased to raise it to Rs. five the spirit of officers who work way thousands and also ensure that one down 4000 to 5000 ft. under the dependent from each family is direc- ground at great personal risks and tly employed in the Bhilai Steel we would like to be advised by Plant. I have afso instructed them senior Members of Parliament. Very to prepare a project by which the soon I will request my colleague, the maximum number of workers now Labour Minister, to make a formal employed by the contractor can be request to the Leader of the Opposi- taken over by the Steel Plant in its tion who, with his colleagues, can different mines. So, whatever is pos- go into these things and advise us. sible is going to be done and I have We do not want our officers to get already taken steps in that direction. demoralised. Now, having dealt with this, somebody raised the question of some Similarly, another unfortunate thing Hccket, some American company which with the Tatas is trying to and, of course, of great misfortune is the Chaanala accident. II is no-- take the slag and convert it into cement. There was a proposal by body’s ease that a few engineers and a few men tried to drown themselves the previous government that the Steel Authority of India should and their colleagues. It is nobody’s become a partner or a shareholder case. In the report of the inquiry or some sort of take it over. The commission that has been placed be- fore the House by my colleauge, the total project cost is a couple of crores of rupees. I countermanded that Labour Minister, certain strictures ' order and said that the Steel Autho- have been made and one stricture rity of India is not interested in petty i* that there was some callousness on things. It must plan bigger things the part of the officers. But it is also for the benefit of the nation...... a fact-one paragraph is there—that they had no knowledge that a cut SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: You had existed. I have gone into this have the Cement Corporation which case in great detail. I have also seen can do that. that particular cut was made in 1935 and that drawing got lost' in the trans- SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: We do fer of the erstwhile company and in not have any isms. We do not see this process those drawings were lost. ghosts everywhere. We are not in- B was neither with the company terested in petty things. dor with the Inspectorate of Safety SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: We « f Mines. These gentlemen who have got isms. were digging down to find a venti- lation went up and hit at the SHRI BIJU PATNAIK; Now ■ante place when water poured coming down to Mr. Jyotirmoy Bosu, doota tik* an avalanche. So, their he taflnd about Bechtels Which at 287 DG Min of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel & Mmt$ 288

[Shn Biju Patnaik] Power must be in the public sector, and like that iron must be in public one time did some laying down oC Bector was their view pipeline and robbed the country working in the Kudremukh project I would only say that if the country I do not understand what prevent- allow? ltBelf to be robbed by a ed tnem to allow these power in- foreigner then it is we who are to tensive factories to have their own blame lather than the foreigners plants > If the fools give succour why blame SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU They them’ They come here to mak*' weic wanting subsidised power money SHRI BIJU PATNAIK They But they hnve the expeiti e and could have power plants and no wo are laying important pipeline of subsid} abcut 70 kilometies going through I have allowed them I have asked (a tunnel of 1 8 kilometres I would them to woik it out quickly They like to advise my hon fnend Shn will give output m full The situa- Jyotirmoy Bosu that the tenders tion has been collected as Mr Pai for laying the pipeline have not yet mentioned Theie was a weakness in been floated much less taken by the pievious Government But Janata them I shall be verv g ad if he Government is quite strong and gives the details I shall verify and pragmatic write him back officially I would now come to vanadium I was studying this morning how nickel lead and copper which has fast it wa going because if we do not been languishing and we have been concludt the fiist supply bv Septem import ng material worth tens of bei 1980 then, will be heavj pen- cio e Although we have ore yet alty I am peisonally supervising it we have not developtd that Tni» Tenders foi a numbei of components Government wants t * take it up and have been floated but orders have in the fust two y of the Plan not been placed ensuie tnat the entir i 1quirrn‘ &n of the cou ltiy i<« fully n Having dealt with this I would (Interruptions) like to come to non-fenous metal SHRI BIJU PATNAIK I have (Interruptions) read that SHRI BIJU PATNAIK Mi Jyotirmoy Bosu what past is for In the Budget debate I mentioned you to dig up I am interested on. y about chrome an the present and the future SHRI O V ALAGESAN (Arkon»m)* (Interruptions) Shn Jyotirmoy Bosu and the Minister are having a conversation session SHRI BIJU PATNAIK One can Please stop this running comentry nde them SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU I wanted It is a very distressing situation information Mr Alagesan that the production of aluminium has fallen because of shortage of SHRI BIJU PATHAINK I am power I wonder what made the addressing the speaker previous Government not to allow large aluminium projets to have their In the Budget debate 1 also mention- own captive power plants ed about chrome For the last three years 389 D G, Min. of ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) steel & H im a9o

chrome was being exported. A great When we talk of shore-baaed pfawtf, deal of money was being made by a 1 would like this House to know two handful of chrome mine owners. But or three constraints which are critical thi» year we have decided to mop up constraints When we talk of steel that. In terms of export duty we plants expansion, I would like to re- have mopped up Rs. 3 crotes out of peat one thxng here because I have a total export of about Rs. 25 crores said this in the House earlier also. If The House would be glad to know we produce 20 to 25 million tonnes of that out of chrome fine that is being crude steel ingots every year we have exported now, we have decided to put proved coking coal deposits which up 50,000 tonnes ferro chrome plant would last us not more than 30 to 40 for beneficiating this flee, converting years. This is our position. We have them into billets and then making unlimited quantity of what if known ferro chrome which will be of great use as good coal but not coking coal to this country Similarly with nickel, with lead and with vanadium. We are So, experiments Have been going on cfeaftng with atf these things for which round the world by vrslous Seat* like foundation-stones were laid by the pre- Lurgi of Germany, All is Chalmers vious government. I am merely trying of USA and gome others to find a met- to formulate those foundation-stones hod by which the non-coking coal can into actual production. Having done this be used in making what ia called on a smaller sphere, but a very critical sponge iron and then go over to steel. area, of non-ferrous metals, I shall go But it has not yet been a success story into the heavier side of the steel plants and there are many deficiencies in the Foundation-stones were laid with great working of the process We are trying fanfare but no planning commission to put up one m Andhra Pradesh as an approval, no budgetary provision and experimental measure with the help so on were obtained Apart from the of UNDP and one little plant is going State Ministers, many foundation, on in Jamshedpur with many varieties stones were laid by the ex-Pnme Minis- of coal. But the whole process is not ter There was one Rs. 240 crores ferti- yet fully satisfactory, but we are try- liser plant at Paradip. Lakhs of rupees ing to And out the best way of doing were spent for the foundation-stone it, because, that is the ultimate answer laying ceremony. The sea in its anguish for India if we want to use our own has washed away the foundation- resources. stones. If I may say so, I am sorry about the wanton behaviour of the people 18 hrs. in power. They raised hopes in the minds of the people,-I may say, great SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai): hopes, because a steel plant means What is the capacity ot it? great development in the area. If you have a steel plant of 2 million or 3 SHRI BUU PATNAIK. I wiU tell million capacity that means a great city you. This is very small with a capacity is bom out of it. Tens of thousands of of 100 tonnes a day. people ate involved directly and many more are indirectly involved. To If you look at it, not politically, but play with the hopes and aspirations ot only by economic considerations, which the people in this cavalier fashion. I this House must, to produce the chea- submit, is not a deoent thing to do by pest steel, as everybody wants or both any Government in power. But'having sides of the House want that the nation raised theee hopes, it has fallen to my must have the cheap atari, the steel lot to see and to ensure how this could companies in both the private and be brought into action. public sectors oust have adequate pro- fits lor their own expansion, for their 9 # LS--10 own replacements and so on. And then, 29i D G Min of JUNK 26, 1977 » Steel & Mines *92

[Shn Biju Patnaik] under the sea at the port, it can take we must also locate any future expan 60,000 tonnes which may later go seion at localities or at areas where upto one lakh tonnes with the iron- ore closeby and so on If you have to the s-teel production would be the cheapest do that, then you have to think of better coal from outside India both because of the quantity and because The second consideration is that the of the very low ash content which gestation period should not, like the gives us the lowest coke consumption Bokaro, take us to ten years It must Australian coal has got 11 per cent be concluded within three years or at ash-content Sir, you had been the the maximum within three and a hall Steel Minister and you know well years from the time the first rupee 13 that our coal lhas got an ash-content invested till It starts its production of 24 per cent or 25 per cent or 27 Unless you are able to do that this long per cent We have to put up coal interest charge goes on being capital! washenes, another expensive industry, s>ed and capitalised m the case of to reduce the ash-content by 20 per Bokaro from Rs 600 crores to Rwhere we are blasting the rock if there is a good man at the plant 2$3 D G- of J ASADHA 7, 1868 (SAKA) Steel & Mines 294 h e does well and if there is an in- sary minimum facilities like drink- different man the plant suffers. It ing water, cottage industries, etc. is a very sorry plight. I propose to They have to be nursed. They have bring very soon a Bill before this been neglected You may call it lop- House so as to correct this situation sided planning or whatever else you We are working on that. I am sure may like to call it. the House will have a debate on it and get satisfied that something cor- Mr Speaker, Sir, the Janata Party rect is being done which will help has decided that maximum amount the steel industry and the public of funds must be made available to sector to grow on its own rights and the agriculture sector, small scale not be dependant on government sector and the cottage sector. There- There should be no budgetary sup- fore, you know, what happens to port from the government. When- these consuming units—steel, alumi- ever there are losses, they come for nium and power They are at the budgetary support. This leads to a cross-roads My personal thinking certain amount of inefficiency. They would be that as long as we can pro- must become efficient They must tect the interests of our country, as produce steel at the same cost as long as we can find international the world produces They need not market—till such time my own con- be subsidised by the tax-payer* for suming market goes up—I have to And all tunes both m terms of budgetary ways and means of utilising my enor- support and high prices to the con- mous dormant natural resources and sumers All this I shall bring in the enormous dormant number of trained form of a Bill—perhaps not in this personnel and put them together This Session—m the next Session. is my problem I do not wish to be reduced to the position of an export- Sir, the mam thing before us is er of the raw material. I do not Where do we go from here. There want our people to be their hewers is no sale. I have to export. You of wood and drawers of water. I say we are exporting at the cost of reject the idea. I must have an add- the nation That is not correct. Par- ed value whether you call it billets, liament has not sanctioned any cash pig iron or sections or whatever you subsidy for export of steel may call, semi-finished or something else I must have added value at However, Sir, the major question different stages. If I have to put before us is that these major in- extra plant, I must have added value, dustries like steel, aluminium and it may be steel in the first stage, power are at the cross-roads. Whe- it may be section or ingots at the ther we should take a jump or should second stage and my third plant may we wait till the Indian market picks be at the stage of billets. Whatever up consumption. This is the cross- it is, depending on the world market, road on which you have to take a I should get the added value. But decision. | the world market of steel is a most depressing market lor the last 40 Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is no doubt years. Today Japan has 35 million that while We have been developing tonnes of idle capacity. But the very the engineering industries, the techno- fact that there is a depression in logy and everything, we have neglec- steel market shows that it is time ted the growing number of people be- for this nation to plan. Now, I can low poverty line. The number of get credit. I can get the machinery aucfc persons stand at 40 crores today cheaper. Now I can get services whereas it was 25 crores in 1967. cheaper because there is unemploy- Therefore, $lr, there is no alternative ment in those countries as against but to pump more and more money boom. If we have courage and it in that sector to give them neces- we {dan now, probably we will lay 395 DO Mm of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel * Mine* »9& [Shn Biju Patnaik] the foundation tor ell the things that SHRI T A PAI II he wants, ha many of the Members have wanted can have the Chinese method in West Bengal the Government to do, whether tn Kerala an aluminium plant or a steel SHRI BIJU PATNAIK. I would plant is to be put up, whether in like them to try it m West Bengtt Hatnagin an aluminium plant u to Let us see their performance in Weat be put, whether in Orissa and Andhra Bengal I give one challenge to Mr Pradesh a large aluminium plant is Bosu 1 transfer the sick Durgapur to he p u t, whether shore-based steel steel plant to West Bengal You deve- plant is to be put up or whether an lop it you double its production and extension ot the existmg plants is you get 105 per cent, run it efficiently accessary I can lay the foundation and reduce the cost of all those if the House supports me m his adventure I can do it with SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA the support of this House (Serampore) You are making this statement because you know that the Sir, this is a departure from my very planning of the Durgapur Steel iiienda heie 1 would not like Mr Plant wrong Now, you can give Jyotirmoy Bosu to talk on this side this challenge (Interruptions) but talk straight Has he another answer? Have my CPI friends an- SHRI BIJU PATNAIK He does not other answer’ I would have liked accept that on one excuse or the their answers and paraded them be- other It is the policy of the gov- fore this House, so that they can ernment to dccept it and change the know whether their answer is prac- product mix at Durgapur A pro- tical 01 Government's answer is prac- duct mix which was m demand tical We can have a dialogue on twenty years ago has no demand to- thus, we can have a debate on this<. day But it is difficult to change I shall come to this House for a de- a major plant As everybody knows bate 1 -think an alternative must be we have to find ways and means to found or our idea must be accepted improve the productivity of that plant both in the interest of the nation as well as the people As I said dor- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Has it mant mountains on one side and dor- got in built weaknesses? mant manpower 0n the other side are there and these two have to be SHRI BUU PATNAIK. I say the married, I would like to give a product mix there is not what the better answer than what I can ■country needs today Similarly m 1 should have the answer very the Durgapur Alloy steel plant the quickly from Mr Jyotirmoy Bosu major defect is the machinery, it end other friends because I have would need crores, I have given Rs started negotiations with Russia, also 8 or 9 crores to correct some of the with Tokyo, also with ‘Washington machinery, it will need several crores and also with Europe I am pushing before it could be set right to replace tenders, may be roping in one or the import of stainless steel. two in the interest of the country Similarly with alumina—that is one (Interruptions) of the major things of the world Just like there is heavy depression SRK1 JYOTIRMOY BOSU You m steel, there is a steep uprise in may think of Chinese growth in steel the world market need for alumi- nium. Various things happen when SHKI BIJU PATNAIK If this the world economy changes The Country follows the Chinese sys- price of oil went up and the Ame- tem, then I am not prepared for rican government contemplated bring- that I know how to deal with it ing in legislation that the automobile 297 DG Mm °t ASADHA 7, 1899 (SAKA) Steel & Mines

manufacturers—they product m mil- theie So, we are negotiating I must lions and people use them m mil- say it is nearly 100 days since we lions—should manufacture cars which have come in I think I am 100 days would run at least 28 5 miles a late but a°t too late I hope that I gallon That meant lighter cats, that shall be able to give some informa- also meant that in cars steel would tion to thua House within next three halve to be replaced by aluminium months some hopeful news that a This legislation alone will increase major aluminium installation would the demand for aluminium by 15 take place m this country apart from million tonnes Even engines will wnat we have got and here I would have to be changed Russia is today urge my colleagues in this House, be- putting up a 600,000 tonne alumina longing to Uttar Pradush and Madhya plant at Baikal using French know Pradesh to please persuade the new ledge, they are building steel plants Chief Ministers not to shut down using the same Amencan-German power in the aluminium plants In process which m the time of Kumar- Uttar Pradesh th«y have just cut mangalam we acquired, by which back the power Probably there is we are proposing to build our own shortage of power There is no doubt rolling mill The world is moving that there is shortage of power *3ut in a different direction It is push- now that the rains have come And ing on shall we stand still’ Or shall the cultivator is not in need of water we try to foxge ahead7 That is why perhaps, the power can be restored I said that we are at the cross roads SHRI T A PAI I undei stand that I am gratified and I am glad to they had cut down power under the know that the House has almost dir- Defence of India Rules Perhaps ected me to go ahead with two cons- after the external Emergency had traints not drawing from the meagre gone they could not use this Act for resources available to the poor, not this purpose causing inflation My friend Charan Singh will not lose one penny which SHRI BIJU PATNAIK Whatever he can use in the village, to which it is I do not know But we are I fully agree I will not draw from checking on that But I know that that At the same time I will not there is shortage of power Every- ask my friend the Finance Minister body knows that there is shortage of to print more currency to give me rupees These are the two heavy power I know there is shortage of power in Delhi also The power constraints Yet I have to build both steel and alumina Today the world shortage is there m Madhya Pradesh also where although the poweT was wants aluminium The Arab coun- committed, though the BALCO plant, tries, Iran and other countries where they have got cheap gas, can pro- the aluminium plant is there, only 25000 tonnes production is going on duce cheap power For Aljumipa now Two more 25000 tonnes pot power is the largest raw material and lines are ready but for one reason one who could get raw material or other the power has been delay- cheap, can also produce aliftmnlum ed The House should think why I at a cheaper cost am telling this here The House Sir, we are negotiating, as Mr Pai should perhaps think whether the had said—where he has left behind, time has come now for a national I pick it up—with Russia, with Ruma- power grid so that the whole thing nia and with other countries Mind can be planned properly and not you, there are several competitors left to the whims and fancies of in- It i« not that we only have alumina dividual state power boards We have The South African countries are also not got the national power grid yet, negotiating to get the installations a nation*! power grid which can be 9JLS|« 299 D.G. Min. of JUNE 28, 1977 Steel ir Mines

[Shn Biju Patnaik.] MR. SPEAKER: The question is: controlled by Parliament. That is why i have brought this matter. “That the respective sums not ex- ceeding the amounts on Revenue I have taken too much of your Account and Capital Account shown time and the House’s time I am grate- in the fourth column of the Order ful to the hon. Members for all the Paper be granted to the President support they have given and the dir- out of the Consolidated Fund of ections they have given. I would re- India to complete the sums neces- quest that the cut motions may be sary to defray the charges that withdrawn and my demands be pass- will come in course of payment dur- ed. ing the year ending the 31st day of March, 1878 m respect of the MR SPEAKER: Shall I put all heads of demands entered in the the cut motions together? second column thereof against De- mand Nos. 84 to 86 relating to the Ministry of Steel and Mines." SHRI C. K CHANDRAPPAN: Yes, Sir. The motion was adopted.

MR. SPEAKER: 1 shall now put all 18.25 hn. the cut motions together to the vote of the House. The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Alt the Cut Motions were put and Eleven of the clock on Wednesday, negatived. June 29, 1977/Asadha 8, 1899 (Saka).

G.M 0.1 PMH N-D—P.M.R— 993—L.S.—J.C 1494—5-8-77—998.