CONGRESSION~t\L RECOI~D-SENATE M.ARCli BO ronsent to an nmenument to the constitution of the State of 1540. Also, p·etition of certain residents of River!.>ille, Calif., New l\fexico; to the Committee on the Pu!Jlic Lands. protesting against tile llassnge of House hill 7179, for the com­ 1528. By i\Ir. BOWLES : Petition of tlle city government of· pulsory obser.vauco of Sunday; to tlle Committee on the Dis­ Chicopee, :Mass., proteHting a-gainst the eighteenth amendment tdct of Columl.Jia. and the Volstead Ad; to the Committee on the · .Judidary. 1550. Also, petition of certain re. idents of San Bernardino, JG2D. Tiy l\1r. BURTON: Petition of T.JOuge No. 3G5, Slov. Cnlif., protesting against tile passage of Hous·e bills 7170 and Km'. Pod1l. Drnst>o V~:;trajnost, lfairport Harbor, Ollio, pro­ 7822, and similar bills, for the compul:·;ory obRcrvancc of Sun­ testing agt The legiAlativc clerk called tile roll, and the followiug Sen­ Oftke awl Post Roads. ators aoS\Yered to their names: AshnrRt Ft>rnal<.l La lf'o lktte Holtinson, ..l .rl<. 1535. By l\Ir. GRH'FIN" : Petition of Yeterans' AsRociation Hayanl Ferris McKellar Rohin:-;on, lud. of Fecs~ls be sent to tllat yar(l to be repaired and re­ Blea:-;e Fletr:hPr Mci\Iaster ShipstPa•l conditioned at that yard; to the Committee on Nn>al Affairs. Bo1·ah :b'rRzicr ~lc~ar.v Shortridge nrntton GP·org~ Mayllelu Him mons 15:~6. By ... Ir. LEA of California: Petition signed by 780 citi­ BrookhArt Gillett l\1c.u.nA Hmith zens of Califomia, protesting against HouHe bill 7170 Ot' other Bron~:~saru OlARs Mt>tcalf Smoot (·ompnhmry Sunday ohsen·anee legislation; to the Committee on Bruce Oorr ~lo~nnte of the Stnte of Hew York, Edge Jeteraus 1':uwarus Kin:;: J:ced, Pa .. of tbe Spanish War, Philippine insurredion, China relief expe­ The YICE PRESIDENT. Eigilty-two Senators having an­ (lition, nml to their willo-ws and minor::;; to Lhe Committee on swered to tl1cir names, a quornm is vrescnt. Pension:;;. Mr. BUTLER. Mr. l'resic'lcnt-- 1540. By ?.11·. MORHO\V : Petition of New Mexico Lodge, The VICE PH.ESIDENT. Does the Senator from Nebraska 8lo\ene National Benefit Society, protesting- ngnillst tbe A:::wcll yield to the Renator from Massachusetts? bill, to proTide for the rcgif-'tration of alie11s, and for other Mr. HOWELL. I yield. -punwses; to the Committee on Immigration and Naturalization. TRA.'\SFE.R OF MO.'TAN.A ELK TO ~Lo\SSACllUSETTS 1541. Ah_.:o, JlCtition of the New Mexico Cattle & Hor:o:;c :Mr. BUTLER Mr. Presiu011t, on Saturdny last the Senator Growers' ..Association, indor~lng ~enate l1ill 575, the Gooding from Moutnna [Mr. 1\~ALSII] offl'l'CU a ref4olntion mnkiug in­ bill ; to the Committee on Intcr~tate aud Foreign Commer<'e. IJUiry with reference to tbc transportation or ell.: from Mon­ 1042. By ~Ir. O'CO~.~. ·10LL of Xew York: Petition of Ware­ tana to Massachusetts. I bave two references to the matter housemen's A~ociation of tlle Port of New York, oppo:->ing the which I ask unanimou::> consent to havo prjnteorlng the pas~nge of Honse l.Jill 7007 to increase Memorandum rc uispo!\al of sru'lllns elk at tbe l.Jlson .range the salaries of Federal jndg~; to the Committee on the The nationa1 bison rang<', n('nr foieRe, :;\iont., was est::tlJliHheu l.ty Judiciary. act of Con;rrcNs whlcll was si~nod l•y President ll.oosevelt on :\lilY 23, lMG. Also, petition of tbe Gen. Geori;e A. Garretson Camp, 1!)08. It wos estalJliAbcelaucl. Ohio, fn>oring- the pa~snge of House bill 98, in order to perpetuate this species of llig~ame nnimuls which at thnt now Hon~-;e ui1l 8132, to in<:rease peusious of Spani~il war vet­ time wns thrc at~uou with cxtinctiou. The American nison Society, f'rnm:, their widow:-<, aml uependents; to the Committee on which organization originutcd the plan for the cTeuUon of this preserve Pen:o;ions. anu were largely in~>trumeutal in currying it fo~"'vuru to succc.~s, J1re­ 1546. By ~[r. SWING : Petition of certain residents of San !'en1.eu to the Gon~mment u vuclcus herd of l.mffulo for tbe range. Tl1is Diego, protesting againHt the pa::;sage of Honse l.Jill 7179 for heru t•onsisted of 37 animals, 34 of which were purcllaAcu by the the com1ml ~ory ohsenance of l::;nnday; to the Committee 011 tile bison socict.r witll ·runrls nmonntlng to approximately $10,000, which Dh;tri ·t of Colnml.Jia. were raised b.r suuscription through the cumbinC'd t•ITorts of the officers 1547. Also, petition of certain resi(lents o-f Escondido, Calif., and members of the Rociety, and 3 were llonated-2 lly the Conrail Jlrotesting against tile passage of House l.Jill 7170, for tile com­ estate, from which the other lmlia lo were purchased, and 1 lJy l\11'. puh;ory oiJser\'anc·e of Sumlay; to the Committee on the Dis­ Cl.Jurlcs Gootlnigbt, or '.reXc\1'. Tl.Jrce animals from tlle Dine :\fountain trkt of CoLnmhi:t. Forest Association ll<'ru, New llampshire, were later donateu to the 1l)48. Also, petition of certaiJ1 residents of California, pro­ range, making a total ot 40. animals in the herd. Tllc range was t<"!sting again~t tlle pa!"sage of House bill 7170, for tile com­ fenced dul'infi HlOO, U)](l the lmlfulo were tnrned out on the prPS('J'VO pul~ory obl'.enan<.."e of S Imlay; to tlle Uommittce on the District on Octouer 17, 1900. In JflJ1, 7 C'll< were tnl{I'D to tile rnnl£e from of Columbia. Jaelcsou llolc, Wyo., anu ln 1!)12 anu 1013, 14 additional. ell{ were 1926 CONGRESSIOX \I1 RECORD-SENA'l,E 6547 brought to the pt·e Rct·v~ from Jackson Hole. In 1fi1G the elk berd was matlon c-oncerning a matter of public intereRt. .An ohjcetiou lncn•ased lly tl.l e tra uRf<· r of :?G animals from Yellowstone !'ark. Deer, was made to my request for the immediate consideration of nntrlopr, anct mountain s heep were al~=;o placcu on the range. The the resolution, and it went over UlH.ler the rule. A reeess was rl~' r t·. Rntt•lnpc>, nnd mouutnin Ahrrp, however, are .comparatively few in taken until yesterday and a reee~s was taken la ~; t night until numlle t·s, but tlw ltenls of llllft'aln a!lll t>lk increased very roplt1ly, so to-day, RO the re~olution could not lJe laid before the Senate tllat in 10:?-1-, 1,::os a.nimnls W\'rr on the rnngc (nn area of np[)roxi­ as a re:-;olutlon coming over from the preceding <.ln.v. Now matel~ · 1j;(.fl00 acreR, or :?!l j-;f!llarc milt•s), ineludl11g- G75 l.Juffalo and the Sf'nator from l\faH~achutlcttR pre:-;ent~ a memorandum from llJllH'o x.lmnt!•ly :iOO elk. The t ·a u~ r was being oYet·j:p·azl•cl, :llld [lerma­ the Socretary of Agriculture in relation to the 11nrticular suh­ m·nt i11jnrr to thr forage on the tn·eservc was threnh•necl hy th e largo jec:t; that is to say. we get the information which we were n nmLcr of :.t uimals f l·cd in~ thN'Pon. It th!'I'efore becam\l nPces!Oary to seeking not in the ordinary way l>ut through the Senator from t'Pduc·e the numi.Jn· of animals. ·we have disposed of some huf1:alo, uut Mns:-~acb usetts. ::1:-1 tiH' rftuge wa~ estai.Jlished pl'illl:ll'ily for tl.lc buffalo it wus llPcmeehnH of the sportsmPn would he l)asseni.anu to be ~;a th;fy the pnlJlic mind in relation to the ~nbject. uspfl for l)lnntiu~; on snl. t ahlr localities in the Statl', pr(J\'1ue!l the State A rcpreseutathe of the lliologieul Sune.r called rue on the wns willin~ to ~o to the PX J)ettHe of co n strHct in~ the ne<·r;.. ar·y fcuccs tele11hone nlHl told me ahont the matter. llis explanation and col'I'Uls .with whil'lt to enpture the nnimnl>-l. 'l'llis propoilal was seemed to l>e reu~;onably sntisfador~·; lmt I said it would hu cnrrfully considered lly the R[lOrts meo of the 8tntP. ns well a~ by tllc very mnth more ntluuule to the rmblic if it came in answer to g·nme commission. ft wn~ L1cl'ide11, howc>et·, that the State was not tile re~olution iu the regnlm: wny ru1d were allowed to he given in a position to mert 11tis extwuse, and thE> hurea11 wns notifit•ll, th(•re• to the puhlic in that 'mamter. I vreRnrne prol>alJly the rnemo­ fore, tltat so far Hs thP ~tate wa s concN·ne\l the t• lk might he clisposcd ramlnm now offered by the Hcnator from Massachusetts gi\·c:-~ of as we saw fit. 'L'h gflmc commis~>ion, moreover, gave the hnreau a all the iuformutlou wbieh the re~olntion would have elidtNl re~ular game-farm li c !'u~ c : in oth<•r words. we were ud\·lseu tllat they if it had beeu adovted, but I submit that it is not the wur to wl,.;ltecl to lllace no o11staclc wllate\·et· iu tbe way of tlisposing of these tlo l>nsiues~ in this hody. <·lk on the bison rang-e. ~lr. MO~l~S. ~Ir. Prc'.'ideut, I aR:-:ume the information i:'l \)!.len tlw State of )loutanu tlf'cldecl that thry conlcl uot h 1\1Hllr. ihe quite a:-; ac('nrate a~; if the name of the Senator from -:\fontana animals, the l>nrCitll iht'l'c•upon condnded to accept the offrr of tlic hn(l hN.'ll attaehed to it insteatl of the name of the Henator Ell' Bre.ediug and flra7.lnl{ Assoclatiou, of :\Iidtllel•ol'O, ~Ias::~., to from :\I nssachnRett~. ptlt'cbasc these elk, the <'ntirc cxprm·e of euplnriug to he horne by tllc :\Ir. Bl.;Tr~l•JH.. l\Ir. President, I desire to make one oh~erva­ purci.Juser. It was ('~tirnated in Janunry of this year that 1here were tlon ahout the criticism offered by the St:>1111tor from :Uontana. }Wohnbly 700 elk in the rangr, anrl j88 of these were sltippetl to :\Iassa­ Iuc:lu. "'e baye not had a complete r eport trausfeneut l>nt It l.s understood that th(·y !Ja•c expended ;.omethiug- li'l•e ~111,000 I had the itnpre~r-:ion that it was a matt<'r in which the State fol' this put·pose. "·e have bPeu Addsl'll by the as"oelntion thnt 1t was interestecl. I die ol>taine1l H t a very low It did St:><'m to me, when th<> matter was originally l>rou~ht to rate, so that all tllc ftwd Hf'f'clf'd to RIIPJ)Ot·t the animnls CHII be secun'd the attention of the Senate through au oflicial reqneRt for an and tbey can he takrn cure of without 1.lifficulty. invefltigution, that it was a matter which the Senator from :\fontana eoultl have aRcf'rtained very ea~ily if he hay Sru::ttor W.\LSH, Dpmocrat, 1\Iontuuu. information for my own prh·ate satisfaction or to allay any lle declared he llnd information tbut :?1 of the animals dird en curiosity that I had in the matter. I wanted tlle information route and tbat "all or some of the rE-maining were sl:lllghtcrcd on that it mig-ht l>e given to the public. Of conrf4e, I could un­ reaching their ucstinntion." doubtedly have g-one to the Department of Agriculture or writ­ He introcluccd a rrsolution calling on the Secrchu·~· of .Agriculture ten n letter to the De1mrtmcnt of Agriculture and sath;tied to report to 111e Sl'natr. m~'Relf, hut of what conseqnence wonld that he? Mr. BU'l'Lglt. The Reuntor wonl<.l haYe receh·ed the infor­ :umou:nono, 1\[nrelJ 27.-The herd of elk l>roug!Jt h~rr for l>r!'edin~ mation, and if he afterwn rCnt datc. ~OU1<' oied tar.v of Agriculture to furnish C<'l'tain information eouc:erniug on the train, as would he only natnr·al in. moYin~ a large 1mmbcr the f'hipment of elk from the ..:'tate of l\lontana to the Stato of wiltl animals. Tbe only elk tllnt ha>c brPn ' slaugbtere(l' arc two of 1\IaR:-;achm;etts. we shot I.J ecnusc of injurit>S they rceeh·e­ j~ct matter of the inquiry, which was made lJy the Senator LO.A~ 0~' TE:.'iTS AXD C ..\1\[P EQUIPMENT TO COXFEDER.\TE VETERANS' from Montana on Saturday last, r elating to the tram;portn.­ REU!'\10:-f tion of elk from l\lontana to tlw Rta te of l\las~aclmsetts, to l\Ir. HEFLIN. :\Ir. Prrsidcnt-- inuh·iduals there, and al:-;o a newspaper clipping relating to Thc VICE PIUJSID}}N'l'. Does the Senator from Nel>raHka the same sulJjcct. yield to the Senator from Alal>ama? Mr. WALSH. Mt·. I re~;ie The YICE PRESIDENT lai1l before the Senate the amend­ printed in the RECORD, as follows : meum of the Ilouc:te of Repre·cntati>es to the joint re:o:;olntiou TnE SECRF:'fARY OF TnE JxTEHIOn, ( R. J. Res. 59) authori:ling the s~cretary of War to lend lraNhington, March 29, 1!12!). 3,000 cot. , 3,000 hed sacks, and 6,000 hlankets for t11e use of the HOll. JAMES COVZENS, en<:Ullll)mcnt of the Unitetl Confederate Yeteraus, to he helcl nt Chait·utal~ Committee on Ciuf.l Scn: ice, Hirmin.gham, Ala., in l\In.y, l!J2G, which were to strike out all l'nitcd Slates Senate. after tiJe resolnng clause :md in~ert: J\Iy DEAR SEXA'l'OR C'OG7.F.XFi: I nm transmitting l1ercwith tlle flfth 'J'hat the Secretary of Wnr ue, am1 be is hcrrhy, authorized to lr.Jtd, onnunl rrport of the board of actuarieR of the civil-Retvlce retirr.mcnt at his lli:>cretion, to the rcnnion committPe of the Dnitetl Confedct·atc and disability fnnll, dntcd March 24, 102G, containing a valuation of Veterans, for m;e in connection with the Thirty-sixth Annual Reunion the prcRcnt fund, based on nctnarlnl data compiled during the Jlll.lit of the Uniteil ('oufc~G. such tents anrl other camp CC}Ltipment RS may !;ystem; and a plnn rccommcndeu hy the oct11aries to correct ·what be required at Rnid reunion: Providc.rl, That no expcnf'e shall be they bell eve to be defects in J he pre ~>en t system. '.rhis is the ft rst cauRel'tr, shall take fmm Rairl Yal J. Ne-sbitt a goorl and suillc•ient matics, should be considered in uetermining the future of civil l'Ctire· bond for the safe return of said property in gooe that the Sen!lte concur in the amcnd­ long enough to determine their authenticity as a basis for accurate future estimates. rnl:'nt:s of the llou~'e of H.evrP~cntatiYes. l\Ir. S:\IOOT. I ha>e no objection to concurring in the House So long 'US thG optional rctircmrnt fratnre is malntaineu, it is ap· umC'ndmellt'l. pan'nt tlt!\t there is no way of aHcet·taining definitely the numbt~ r o[ Tile YICE PRESIDF.XT. 'l'he CJUestion iR on concurring ln annuitants who will he added to the 1·oU annually. A fixed age o.f thP ameJHlments of tllc House of Hepresentati>es. retirement ·is ncces ary to accuracy. The amenu.ments were concurred iu. The actuaries apparently IJa:;c intNest accnJHis upon 4 per cent componnrt of the boility fund, accompanied IJy a letter from the Secretary of the Interior to the Senator· tributions of employees sllould be usrcl as at pr<'l:lCD t in po:ing amtnl· ties, with the Go'""ernmcnt in the l.Jarkgronnd as guarantor of tlte from Ui<:hignn [~1r . CovZE.:'\8] and a letter from the Commis­ sioner of l'cnsious. I ask that these communications may l.Je t:;ol>ency of the funu. It is only the part of wls1iom for the Govern· Imhlishe(l as part of a Hcnute document, noel tllnt a thousand ment to sense its lin!Jilitics umlcr ~;uch nn arrangement and tho nil Sen-ice Comrui.s~don, are they not•t l\Ir. ST AX FIELD. I tllink not. ticipate. At the present time there is oYer $!i:3,000,000 on hnnu in the retire­ Mr. Rl\IOOT. Con~r0ss appropriates mont>y for that l1Urpo. e. If we lJegin to priut such r eports as public docume.uts, eYery ment fund, l.Javing been decluctcll from emvloyees' salaries. A·~crnals now average Hhout $1,GOO.OOO per month, ami drafts upon the fund 1l epartment of tbc Goyernme11t will l.Je here a~kiug that tll~ to pay annuitants and other expenses are auout $ '50,000 a month, or ~cnate pay for tile priuting. It bus heeu a nni>crsnl rule of the Honse of Hepresentatives ane stated. ci'""il-~enicc status holding excepted po>:itions; and the original us::;nm p­ l\fr. MORES. Wbat was the reqnest? tion uy the actuaries that practically C\'Cl'Y particlpant ~r ould hC'eomc Mr. S'l'ANFIIGLD. I ha>e mntle a reque::;t for Lhe printinb a beneficiary upon rcnclting the retirement ages prescribed in the law. of tile report of the lJourd of actuaries of tile civil !;enice re­ The tirue "'hen Fcd,..ral appropriation mny lwcoruc neccs:;ary to sup· tirement anvcrnment has be-en jn spite of tile pressure which w~ brougl1t to bear. I ha>c evading its responslblllty :l!ld bas been "dissipating" tile co:ltriuu· po doubt whatever the reports ougllt. to be pl'intcd, but tbo tlons of the emplosces. 19~6 CONGRESSIONAL l~ECORD-SENATE 6549 Any implication In the report that by paying annuities from em­ :Mr. STANFIELD. I submit the report of the actuaries of ployees' contributions the fund has not IJcen administered in nccord­ the civil service retirement funancc of the actual needs of the fund, to place it upon a perma­ S. 187<3. An act providing- for the sale and disposal of public nently self-supporting- oasis. Tlley further include this plan of an­ lands within the area heretofore surveyed as Bootll Lake, in Jtual appropriations by the Government in their estimates of the cost the State of W'isconsin; antary Certain proposals of the actuaries are satisfactory to the d part­ of 1Var to lend 3,000 cots, 3,000 bed sucks, n.nd G,COO lJlankets ment, but others would involve administratiye difficulties. I approve for the uRe of the encampment of the United Confeellevc, unfortunate. The salaries of its age Co., granting it a right of way for a . trunk-line sewer <'mplorees should warrant monthly deductions sufficient to revolve this through the Fort Myer 1\lilit.:uy Reservation and across the fund nnd to avoid the appearance of a beneficence--a policy perhaps military highways in Arlington County, Va., aud to connect akin to that of indnstl'ial insurance. with the sewer line ~:;e1·ving such resen-ation ; Ordinary business acumen would suggest that the annual percentage H. R. 3fl71. An uct to correct and perfect title to cC'rtuin l cYy on earnings should 1Je proportionate to the salary, and annuities lands and portions of lots in Center·dlle, Iowa, in the United l:lbould bear definitP. relation to deducilons, or premiums paid. Tbe Stutes of America, an DEPARTl\ll'::ST 01' THE l:STEaiOn, binding on all parties, and for other purposes; BIJREAU OF l'l·:XSIOXS, H. n.. 5243. An act to promote the mining of potash on the OI•FrcE OF' TIIE Co.u~nssiO:>rER, public domain ; Wasll·inyton, March 27, 192G. H. n.. 6729. An act to amenrl section 18 of the inigation act The honorable the SECRE1'ARY OF THE INTERIOR. of March ~. 1891, as amem.l<~1l by the net of Mureh 4, 1917; D!!:.lR l\ln. SECRETARY : Section lG of the act of May 22, 1!)20, which · H. n.. 7372. An act to amend section 27 of the general leasing vrovides for r etirement of employees in tbe classified civil service, and act approved Februnry 25, 1920 ( 41 Stat. L. p. 437) ; for ot.het• purposes, makes pt:ovh;ion for the appointment of a board of H. H. 7819. An act to cancel water-right charges anCOnd for the channel of the Illinois H. H. 8313. An ad to allot living children on the Crow Reser­ River as grossly , in excess of the Rmotmt needed for navigation pur­ vation, Mont.; poses and involving grave injtny to every city on the Gren t Lakes." H. R. 8G34. An net to amend an act entitled "An act to au­ F. Y\'. THOMAS, thorize the purcha1-1e by the city of McMinnville, Oreg., of cer­ City Ole1·k of Cle~:cland. tain lauds forwerly embraced in the grant to the Oregon & 1\Ir. CAMERON. l\Ir. President, I present and ask COII8ent Ca1 ifornia Railroad Co. and reveHted in the United ~tates by to have priuted in the REcono and referred to the J!'inance Com­ tbc net appron~d June U, 1916," approved ~~elJruary 25, 1910 mittee resolutions adopted hy the po!-4t eommanders and adju­ ( 40 Stat. p. 11G3) ; tants of the American Legion, Devurtment of Arizona, with H. H. t\657. An act to amend sections 226 and 228 of t11e respect to certain needetet·n ns are detri­ March 1, lUll (au 8tatl'l. p. 001), entitled "An act to enable menhtl to their physical health all(l tl.Je ease of mind ~o important in any State to cooperate with any other State or States, or with such cases ; and Whe1·eas the slow progress or the disenHe makes c.xaminution!'l at the United State~:~, for the protection of the waterHheds of navi­ g-able :-;treams and to appoint a eommission for the acquh;ition l!hort interval" unnecc:;;sary aud undesirable; and of lands for the purpose of conHerving the navigability of navi­ Whereas the regullltlon.'! of the YctPrans' Bureau do not p0rm1t a sufficient lopse of time between examinatious of tuhct·culous bene­ gah1P ri~United States Military Academy, anrginning date of his sHid rating of temporary pation of the United States in a congr<>ss to be held in the city anu total ; and be it fm·ther of Panama, June, Hl26, in commemoration of the centennial Resolved, That copy of this rPf'olution be fnrnished to fill :\, without reading, and referred to the Committee on The Sc11ate ChnrnbM·, lVnsllinyton~ D. 0.: Commerce a. telegn\m embo1lying a resolution adopted by the I respectfully request that this message be rend alouu ln full antl be city council of Cle-veland, Ohio, protetiting against the diver­ pt·inted ns part of the official recorll at hearing :uonday of S••uate \.Jill ·Hi. rclatiu~ to propoKcd constitutional amenumcnt in New Mexico, ~-;ion of the water from Lake Michigan to the Chicago Drain­ age Canal. and, In fact, affecting income from oil fouutl recently an1l mainly ou There IJeing no objection, the teleg-ram was referred to the lands of State lJnivc•·sHy of New :\Icxico. As citizen, tnxpayer, nnu Committee on Commerce and ordered to be printeu in the as president of University of New ::\Icxtro I earnestly pt·otest recom· REcoiiD, as follows : mcuuatlon or passage of this resolution 4G, and on theHe tive gronnuR: LWc·stern Union telegram] First, the measure proposes a hnll nRtionnl precedent; s ... ronrl, it wonlu CLJcVELA~D~ Onro, Mat·ch 29, 1926. canse diversion in pnrt of educational fund:; to nonellncational pur­ Hon. FRANK R. Wnr... rR, poses, snell ns river improvement, ho;;pital penitentiary; third, ednca· Utzited StateR 8e11ate, Was1Lington, D. 0.: tion in common scl10ols is vitally tlependent upon f!Uality of highet• The city council of tbe city of Clevelawl 1\t its regular meeting to­ institutions, and this oct affect;; ••nfHvorably nil puhHc colleges of tbls night unanimously allopteu the fol1owing resolution : ~ta.te; fourth, coupled with action of New Mexico State Lanll Office 19~6 CONGI-tESSION1\._L. RECORD-· SENATE 6551

the amendment would cnusP loss or !)7 per cent of intet·est on moncr until a little more than a y<.'nr ngo, when a smn 1 ofl fi ld waR di~ drriveu from oil lands given to tbe State by Congress for the ex· covered in township 18 south, range 28 east, New ~{P:dco pt·inciP3.l elusive usc of the university. Finally, I submit tllnt ·this measure in meridian, which has resulted in oil royalties from State lands in such its act unl results is not well understood by the people of New Uexlco township. ot· of the Nation. It has not hecn voted upon by the elect$·ate of Unuer the act of. 18!)8 lands hod been selected for university pur­ . tl!is ~tate . I belicYe it should not pass without searching investign· poses in such township to the extent or approximately 13,ugo acres . tion and stnt.!.y. which were clear llstects a pro110SCd constitutional amendment in New :Mexlco, which New Mexico Legl:-:luture of Joint llesolutlon Xo. 10, which propof:les to amendment shonltl not be confused with any other measure with regard change the whole scheme or. plan of the original Federal gmnt of btndtl. to laullS in New Mexico anu now before Congress. Will you tllere· TbiH resolution was prepared, caused to IJe introuuced, aning in view t!Je getting Senate and in the House of neprcsf'ntatl\·es at an early hour? Our for themsel>eS Of a rpart of the oil royaltiPS wltich the university haement, miners' gres~:~ consent to u general pooling of the diiTerent lund grants to til~ ho:;pital, penitentiary county bonds; (~)) education in common schools State of New 1\lcxico. is yitalJy dependent upon (]UUlity Of highet• institutions, and this act In the form which this qnestiun now reaches Congr€'5~ it carries with ufl'ects unfavorably all public colleges of this State and othet· States it at least tho semblance of being the expre::;sion of the dt'sire or a similarly situatetl; (4) the amendment would cause luss to tho uni­ majority of tlle peoplo of New I\Icxlco, speaking through theit· legi:>la­ yert:ity of D7 per cent of the interest on moneys dcriveu from oil lanus ture. In considering the mutter. the true situation and .object sought given to the State ,by Congress for the exclusive use of the uni\·ersity; to be accompli::;hed shonlrought it and to acquire the same for themselves. The univet-sity not been voted upon by the people of New Mexico. and iu its actual strenuously obj€'cts to this procedure aneu in approximate pel'centages of other were reserved for the purpose of the establishment of 11. university in institutions or purposes, would be: the tllen Territory of ~ rew Merlco. By the act of Congrrss of June 21, Public bulldings------0.01 Ui!lH, the reservation maue in 185-l was granted to tlle Territory of 0 New l\1cxico for university purpost's, and an auditlonal grn.nt of ~~:·!;;~~~~l\ ~v~~~e~~ser~oi1·s======~======: g~ C5.000 acres anu all su.liuc lands was also made for the same purpose. Improvement of Rio Grande------. 008 The next grant for university purpos<'s was by the u.ct of 1910, com­ InsaneScllool ofasylum mines______------. 010.00~ monly known as the enablin~ act. 'l'his containrd a grant of 200,000 DeRf and ;. By both the act of 1898 and tbe act of Rcforru school ------. 00! :r-;ormal school::;------. 0:!) ~910 other grants to other institutions; purposes, or t!JI.ngs were ma

The seconrt grounu of objrctlon to this rct>olution is to a large degree Pub1lc Lands pnrRuant to SP.nate n~~solntlon No. ~47, found at page technical, uut a rifles out of tbe anxiety auu hurry of the persons· for­ 3640 ot port 13 of the hearing hPicl h.r :-;uch commit tee, which has to mulating this plan. Senate Joint Hesolution No. 4.6 in form is a con­ do tn part wlth tho (Jll l':stion presenicll in Senate Joint Ur.solution aent by Congress that Joint HesolutJon No. 10 of the 1023 New Mexico No. 4G. Le~islaturc ue submitted to a vote of the electors. We contcn1l that HeRpect!ulJy sul>mittcu. Senate .Joint Resolution No. 46, even if passed, wo.uld be futile for Dow~ER & K~: LEHER, the reason that .Joint RN•olutlon No. 10 is so uefectiYe as to constitute By n:t::uJWE S. DowNER. no autilorlty fot· the submission of the constitutional amenflment pro­ posecl t!Jen·by to the elec·tors of New Mexico. This contention is base«l t1pon the following consluerations : Act of June Enabling Purpose Total We helie,·e that a conuition prccedent to action by the ~ew l\Jexico 21, 1898 act Legh;lature in the way of u resolution prop'O ing an amenclmPnt to the ' New Mexico conr;titution with reference to the compact with the .Acres Aerts .Acre.s Unltetl States is the permlsslon of the United States through an act Common schooL---·------(1) (2) 8, 464,000 of CongreRs. As a preliminary premise It can be stated thnt this Public buiJdjngs ______.__ : ______------32,000 100,000 132,000 propm·ed amt>ndmen t constltutNI a cba uge. or amendment of A t•tiele UniversitY------f'~~. ~-55 } 3200,000 309, r,98. 55 XXI, "Compact with . the United State:s," of the New Mexico consti­ Agri cultural college ______·______100, 000 150,000 250,000 tution. This is clearly corr ct for these r~>nsons: '.fhP. enabling aet, Permanent water reserve _------500,000 liOO, 000 Improvement of Rio Orande ____ ------100,000 100,000 section 10, provltles iu effect t..l.Jat any money del"l,·ed from lauds Insane Mylum______60,000 50,000 l!l":llltet.l for a specific purpose shall be placccl in the fnnd estn-blislwd School of mine.~--______liO, 000 150,000 200,000 for such pnrpo:se and neYer dive.rted to another purpose. By section Deaf and dumb schooL______50,000 50,000 Reform schooL ______----______50, 000 ,?0,000 !J, Article XXI, of the Xew :Mexico constitution the State and itR Normal schools ______------______100, 000 300;000 peovle consented to all the tet·ms and conditions of the grant of Institution for blind______50,000 50,000 lands proYiucd fot· in the enabling net. In el!ect, the terms and con­ Mine.~ hospitaL ______------60,000 -----5o:ooo- 100,000 Military institute ____ ------50,000 1oo, ooo 150,000 uitiow; of tile grant of lands we1·e written into !be constitution. l'eni tentiary ______• _------______------50, 000 100,000 lriO,OOO The propo:sers In each bouse, may snbmlt to the REPOR'rS Olf COMMl'f'fEES pc ·ople tJ1e questJon of amenclin~ any provh;ion of Article XXI of Mr. CAl\IEUON, from the Committee 011 Public T~Rnds aud this constltut.lon on compact with the Uniteu States to the extent Surveys, to wllil'h was referred the !Jill ( S. ~{2().~) authorizing alloWf'(l lly the act of Congress pl'l'mltting the same, and if a repayment of execs~ ·amounts pnid hy purdll'HH'r~ of certain majority of the qualified electors who vote upon any such amendmeut lots in tbc town site of Ro\vdoin, ::\lout., reportefl it without t>hnll vote In favor the•·eof, the said article shall l.lc tbet·eby amendeu amendment nntl submitted a report (No. 4fll)) tJ1ereou. accoruingly." l\lr. GOODING, from tlle Committee vu Agriculture tllld As already stated in our opinion, this makes congres ·ional action a I<~orestry, Fmbmitte, the leJZ;iRlature may submit the amendmrnt to the people. po .~ es," approved A ngust 24, 1!)12, a A amended, and for other 'l'bis certainly illl11lies that Congret5s must first uct ns a conultion rmrpoAeR, heretofore reported by him without anl(~ndm) proviss of the United States and its Suryeys. pn:ssage or inclusion in the State cons titution made a condition to Dy l\fr. TRAl\f:MET,L: statehood. A bill ( S. 3771) grnntiug ~<'rtnin public ln nels to the town In clo~ing we direct the attention of tl1e committe.e to the testimony of Jupiter, Fin., for a public park; to the Committee on Public of George S. Downer before a subcommittee of the Committee on Lanus and Sul'Veys. 1926 CONGRESSIONAL R-ECORD-SENATE 6553 - By Mr. COPELAND: . z:ot be disclosed. The fact that a nomination bas been made, or that A um ( S. 3772) to amend naturalization procedure; to the it has been confirmed or rejected, shall not be regarded as a secret. Committee on Immigration. and the maldng public by a Senator of his own vote shall not be deemed By Mr. FERNALD: a violation of the injunction of secrecy." A bill ( S. 3773) grantiug tl. pension to Mary E. Alger (with The VICE PRESIDENT. The resolution will lie on the table. accompanying papers) ; to tbe Committee on Pensions. Mr. PITTMAN. Mr. President, I also ask that tbere may By 1\lr. CAPPR1U: be published following the resolution an article from the Bal­ A bill (S. 3774) tn permit meetings of societies, benevolent, timore Sun which I send to tlle desk. I rlo not ask that tbe educational, etc., organized under the laws of the Dis­ article may ·be read, but merely that it may be published in the trict of Colnrnbia, t,) he held outsiclo of said District; to RECORD. the Committee on the Di~trict of Columbia. The VIOFJ PRESIDENT. Without objection, it is so ordered• . A bill ( R. ~775) gr:mting an increase of pension to Claudius The article is as follows : B. Gillis (with accompanying papers) ; to the Committee on Pensions. [From the Baltimore Sun] By Mr. WELLER: SENATORIAL :SECRECY A hill ( R. 377-G) granting six rnonthR' pay to Beatrice A. Thomas H . Woodlock Is An unfortunate man. For months hls nomi­ Gildart; to the Committee on Military Affairs. nation to the Interstate Commerce Commission was resisted because A llill ( S. 3777) for the relief of John Bowie; to the Com­ he was alleg-ed 1o be a tool of the bi.~o; financial interests. Few men mittee on Claims. naml'u to thnt commission have endured such merciless se-J.rch o! A bill ( S. :3778) reJn ting to length of Rervice of certain pro­ thought and clce1l as that to which he was subjecte~y his critics in feRl'!ors of matbematics in the Na "Y; and the Senate. On Friday he was confirmed by a larg~ majority, which A uill (S. 3779) for. the relief of C:Uarles Wellesley Berring­ might hu ve been taken as a splendid v1ndicRtion bad the decencies been tQn; to the Committee on Naval Afl'ail·::;. obs~>rved; but, as a matter or fact, the majority was given him under By Mr. CUMMINS: circumstances that must ha.vc been extremely humiliating to him. A bill ( S. 3780) grn nUng an increase of pen:sion to Louada That is nut all. While sympathy may go to Mr. Woodlocl< from Lucas (witll nccompnuying papers) ; and those who opposed and those who fa>orcd, ordinarily clean citizens and A bill ( S. 3781) gruntiug an _incre:H;e of pension to Sarah Relf·respecting Senators must feel that they, too, ha,·e been shamed by C. Hylnml (with accompanying papers) ; to the Committee on tbe manner in which the confirmation was made and by the subsel]tlent Pensions. · refn.'>al of the majority of the Senate to cast llght upon it. No more By Mr. HARRELD : cowardly l.mslness hAS been ~:;cen in Congress In many a moon. The A hill ( K S782) to establish a Federal fnrm advisory council secret vote on the nomination was cowardly; the subsequent det-:prrate and a Federal farm board, to aid in the stabilization of prices efTorts to preserve the secrecy, going so far as refusal to permit a of agricultural commodities tbrough cooperative as~ociations, sin~le Senator to tell his constituents how he voted, was contemptible. and for the equitabw di:::;trlbution of tbe costs and benefits, and And the spectAcle pictured in our Washington dispatch of Renators an­ for other purposes; to the Committee on Agriculture and swering a l]norum call and then dodging into the cloakrooms while the Forestry. ' matter was being discussed was disgusting. By ~fr. SJ-llPSTEAD: It would be lt.lle to draw moi·ais from this performance. An Idiot A bill ( S. 3783) gr:mting nu iucrea::;e of pension to Allee A. could see that the majority of the Senate bas weakened respe-ct for Haines; to the Committee on Pensions. the Government. By 1\Ir. WADSWOHTH: Mr. PITTl\.fAN. I will stnte that I shall cull up the resolu­ A bill ( R. 3784) for the relief of the owuer of barge C011r tion to-morrow as coming over from a preceding day. solidation Coa.<~twisc No. 10; to the Committee on Olaims. A bill ( S. 378o) for the amendment of the plant quarantine AMENDMENT OF .RULE XXXVI act of August 20, 1912, to allow the States ·to quarantine agaiust the shipment therein or through of plants, plant prod­ Mr. BL'BJASE. Mr. President, I offer the resolution whieh ucts, and other articles found to be diseased or infested when I Hend to the de~k, and I ask to have it rend and lie on the not covered by a quarantine rstablished by the Secretary of tnble. Agriculture, and for other purposes; to the Committee ou The resolution ( S. Res. 189) \YUS read and ordered to lie on Agriculture and Forestry. , the table, as follows: A bill ( S. 378G) to euable members of the Reserve Officers' Retwlved, '!'bat paragraph 4, of Rule XXXVI, of the "Standing Hules Training Corps who hnve interrupted the course of training of the Senate," bP, anu the same ls hereby, amended by adding the prescribed in the act of June 4, 1!)20, to resume sueh training following proviso at the enu thereof: ane muy, in its discretion, notify such bility of navigable riYers"; to the Committee on Agriculture nominee thereof, but the name of the person making such charges shall . and Forestry. LXVII--413 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE . ]l[ARCII 30

H. p. 8313. An net to allot living children on the Crow of the indebtedness of the Kingdom of Italy to the Uniteu ReserYation ..Mont.; alll:l Stat~ of America. H. H. Dl'iU~. An net to provide for allotting in Reveralty Mr. HOWELL. l\1r. President, in connection with our for­ ngl'ieultural land::; within tlw 'l'on~ue Ri•er or Northern Chey­ eign debt settlements I have made a num!Jer of ~alculations ennt' Indian U~er-vation in l\lontuna, and for other pnrp.o;:;es; wllich I will use in connection witl1 my remarks at tlle vresent to the Committee on Indian Affairs. tlme, some of which I have previou:sly u:;ed. 'l'lley are all­ H. U. 39~1. An ac:t to authorize tile Secretary of War to proximately con·eet. I have been unable, pos~lbly, to eliminate enter into an agreement ·with tile Clare-ndon Community all errors, though I know of uone of any moment except in Sewerage Co., granting it a right of wny for a. trunk-line connection ·with paragraph 7 of the Table I introduced into the :::mYE>r tllrough t!1c Fort l\lyer Military Reservation and across current CoNGHESSIONAL REConn 011 pnge 3216. The last sum U1e military lli~hways in Arlington County, Y~., anu to con­ mentioneu in that paragravh should. have been apvroximately nee t with the sewl'r lin~ ser•in~ such reservatiOn; anu S14,26n,ooo,ooo. The trouble in thi<~ case was an error in tho H. n. 9276. An aC't to proyide for the member ·hip of the multivlier, one being used for 62 years instead of one for 43 Bonr Military Academy, a11d for years. other purposes; to tljc Committee on l\Iilitary Affairs. In a tahle to wllich I will hereafter refer enumerating the II. R 25:!. An act to authorize the Secretary of the Treas­ various debts and the interest deficits resulting from tlle settle· uu to n.ccept a title to a site for tlle post office at Donora, mentH made the total, instead of being $105,617,000, is some Pa·.. \Yhkh excepts and rcscr•es natural gas and oil under­ $2G5,000 ~hort, based on the present worth of the debts afforded l.ring the land ; by the Treasury Department. However, beyond thll'l correctiou, H. R 3797. An act to increase the limit of cost of public '~llich does not materially affect the conclnsions d.rawn in "View huildin~ at ncc·ntur. Ala.; and of the great sums involved, careful checking has dlsclosed no H. r{. 3971 . .in aet to correct and erfect title to certain marked corrections to be applied to the figures given, and I land.· aml portions of lots iu Centerville, Iowa, in tlle United feel that they present a fair picture of the situation from my Rtate of Aruerim, all(l authorizin~ the conveyance of title in point of view. eertuin other l u nd~, un1l portions of lots adjacent to the United Mr. President, I wish to compliment the senior Senator from Htate~ post-ofliee site in Centerville, Iowa, to the record owners tJtah [l\lr. S~:t:OOT] upon his clear and exhaustive statement thereof, by the Secretary of the Tre:.tsury; to tlle Committee respediug the labors of the Uuited States l<'oreign De!Jt Com­ ou Public Builuing:-l nncl G ronnds. miH!;iou, the -prerni:o:es adopted thereby, aud. the method by H. R. 6729. An act to amend section 18 o·r the irrigation act which it has arrived at its conclusions. Particularly do I ad­ of l\Iarch 3. 1~Dl. as mnended by the act of l\larcll 4, 1917 ; mire the manuer in which he has presented the ease of Italy, H. R. 78Hl. Au act to cancel water-right charge,:.; and relense in every feature thereof. Naturally, I hesitate in placiug \VillL~ton liens on the Buford-Trenton and irTigntion projects, myself in opposition to such knowled~e and ability, and I do North Dakota, and for other purpose::3; nnd so with the utmost respect for the distinguished Senator and II. R. 8129. Au act autlwrizing the Secretary of the Interior his work. to eooverate with the f::\tates of Idaho, l\Iontana, Ore~on, ::mfl My views in connection with our foreign debt settlements l\a::;hington in allocation of the waters of the Columb1.a. R1ver are in some respects diametrically opposed to those of the und its tributaries, and for other purposes, nnd authonzmg an senior SeiUltor from Utah. He insists, for instance, that tlle :-tppropriation tllerefor; to the Committee on Irrigation and settlements thus far made with debtor nations provide for H.E:>clamn tion. the payment of the principal of their obligations. On the H. R. 5243. An act to promote tlle mining of potash on the other hancl, I insist, based upon the rules of partial payments rmblic domnin; - understood by every schoolboy, that n~:~ the total payments H. R. 7372. An act to Rmencl section 27 of the general leasing in every case are not sufti<.:ient to pay interest at the minimum act approved February 2G, 1920 ( 41 Stat. L. p. 437) ; rate specified. by Congress, and which we are paying upon the H. H. 8120. An act to create within the San Bernardino major portion of our great war debt, it must be dearly evi­ National !forest in RiYerside County, Calif., a nation~l game dent that, upon this legally prescribed and manifestly just pre:-;erve under tlle jurisdiction of the Secretnry of Agncultnre, basis, no principal is ever to be paid, and heuce that every all(l to authorize an exchange of Government land for privately de!Jt agreement thus far made a,nd recommended by the DelJt owned land within the area of said preserve ; Commission provides for cancellation. H. n. '534. An act to nmend an act entitled "An act to au­ l\lr. President, in the course of my remnrks I propose to thorize the purchaf;e by tlle city of Mc~linnville, Oreg .. of eer­ show tllnt the echo of the last gun fired in the Great War tnin lands formerly embraced in tlle grant to the Oregon anfl had scarcely died away when a project was initiated in Europe California Rnilroacl Co. and revested in the United States by for the cancellation of every one of our war d.ebts. It pene­ the act appro>ed June 9, 1916," allproved February 25, 1910 trated. the chancelleries of that continent, it stalked to the (40 Rtnt. p. 1153); peace table, it reached across the Atlantic and claRped hand8 H . R. 8817. An act reserving certain described lands in Coos with our international bankers, it intrigneu our trad.e asso­ County Oreg.. ns public varks and camp sites; ciations and chambers of commerce, it instituted a subtle H. it.' 8916. An act granting public lunds to the count)~ of and all-enveloping propaganda, that workeu while many of Kern. Calif., for puhlic park purposes; us slept. H. R. !)038. ~ n net authorizing the Secretary of the Interior Following such a barrage, tlle British Deut Commission finally . to dele~ate to supervisory officers the power to make temporary came to \Vashington, and the cancellation project, as remnrk­ alHl emergency appointments; · nble as it may seem, actually triumphed. The British settle~ , H. R. SJ:'i08. An net to authorize the issuance of Or of certain other nation~:!, bnt when its appli­ H. R. fl3!'i9. An act granting cc1·taln public lands to the city of cation would haYe been favorable to the United States it was Altns Okla. for re~ervoir and incl~leutal Imrvoses; and forgotten, 011 the ground that ha\ing canceled Britain's debt, H. J. Res. Joint resolution authorizing the Secretary of l71. that of our stron~est debtor, \Ve could hru·dly ask any other tl1e Interior to approve the application of the State of Idaho to ecrtR in In nels nntence tbat his couutry Jlron·d September 22, 1022; to the Committee on Public I...anus eould and should pay its debt of $47,000,000 in full. Yet the an

Mr. Pre~ident; what I protest n~ainst is the

less fran \ly t ha n ron bave presented yours. Any proposal or mo~e­ great difficulties with llis own people III. Milierand found. himsPlf able mcnt of such churncter would, 1 am coufiuent, sen·e no useful pur­ to accept this view-but be poiuterl out tlutt it wns impm;sll.Jle for pose. On tlJC contrary, it would, I fcnr, mislead the people of the to ag-ree to accept nothing less than it was entit!C'J to under debtor c0untri.cs as to the justice and efficacy of such a plan anu arouse the treaty, unless its dellts to its allies and associates in the war were hopes, the disappointment of which could only have a harmful effect. treated in the same way. I f!!rl certain that neitlH!r the American people nor our Congress, Tlli.s declaration appeared to the Bri tish Go.-ernmcnt em in cn~y fair. -r;hot.e action on such a qtwst:on would lJe requh·ed, is prepared to But after careful consideration they came to the conclusion that it was lool; \\"itl! fa\·or upon such a proposnl. imposs.ible to r emit any p;ut of wllat wa!'l owed to them by Franco ex­ "\ ppnrrntly tlleo.·e are those who have been laboring for some time cept as part and parcel of a ll-around settlement of interallicd indebted­ liEder the delusion that th~ incvital.Jle consequences of war can be ness. • • • Accordingly, the British Goverument has informed U1e ayo:uL•d. l!rench Governmei1t that 1t ·will agree to any equitable arrangement ThlJ ~ ·atien ha neither £ought nor received sulJstantial benefits from for the reduction or cancellation of interalliecl indebtedness, unt that ti1e \VJ. r. On the other hand, the Allies, although having suffered such an al"rangcment must lJe one which applies all around. gre;ltly in loss «'f li\"eS anu propel'ly, have, under the terms of the Tlle closing par a~rraph of this quotation from Premier Lloyd­ 1 ren ty cf PI'·l'fOrC', bef'm that if a ft.:ll account were ta' en of these and of the allowin~ nothing- to interfore witll tllc cancellation project on wllole situntioD, there would he no desire nor r eason to cull upon foo t. It runs as follows : the Go\ · crnm ~ Lt of tllis country for further contributions. There is on e other point which I should like to auu. Wllen the CA."\"CF.Lf.ATJON Dnl\"l!l UXDETERRED Rrltish Government decided that it could not deal with the question of The Emo11e:m chnnccllorieg continued persi:stently to ""ork t.he debts owed to It by Hs allies except as part and pa reel of an all­ for cancelln tion, not";ithstn nnt of Bl:ltish inueb terlne»s to the American Government and for funding the llritish debt which does not prejudice the larger ques­ the parnll cl t1·catmcnt by I.Joth the United States and Great Britain tion, the British Government would be glad to fall in witll it. of the dt•bts due to them by Ft·nnce, Italy, alHl other aUled govern­ ments. Since 1 had my la ~;t meeting witll you the discussion between On October 11, 1D20, Secretary of the Treasury Houston ad­ the l'rime ~Jiuisters of France and Ut·eat llrltain at Lympne have, on dreRsed :i\Ir. Davis, the ABsistaut Secretary of State, as follows: 1hP ir:itinti\'e of tlle F renl'h, resulted in an agreement that in order illY DEAR DA''rs: I inclose herewith a draft of a letter for the Presi­ t o provide a solution for the economic difficul ties which arc gravely dent"s consideration, covering tho financial part of the Pl·ime ::\Iinlster's wei~lli11g npo11 the general situation of the worlu and in order to lettet· to the President. I believe you IJave gone over the substance of mark a definite lJ ginning of the era of peace tile settlement of the this very carefully with Mr. Kelly. I tblnk we ought immeulately to dehts l.Jetwecn them and tl!e other European allles should proceed on connect what the State Department has to say with tllis and send a varnllel lines''- complete letter to the President. That b, caucellation- The letter in question, prepared by Secretary Houston, con­ .. with s11r·h of the repnration debts of the Centrnl Empire. • • • tained the following: "Discus,ions on the suhject took place at an earlier ( ?) between I turn now to the problem of interallied indebtedness which you J'r C':-~idr-nt Wil>lon and the !'rime :Minister, and the Pt·imc l\linistcr pro­ raise. I must deul wlth this matter with great frankness, as I am sure pose<; now to resume these discussions and will send a communication you wit>h me to do. It is desirable that our position be clearly under­ on thi3 subject for the President's consideration. • •" stood, in order to avoid any further delny in a constructive settlement of rep:untlons, which may arise from the hope tllnt the debts to this Aft r qnoting tllis letter from the British Chancellor of the B.xehequer, .A11.1.1Jnf'sa<1or ·wallace concludes hls communication Governruen t can form a purt of such settlement. • • • to tlle Secretary of the Treasury as follows : No power bas uecn given by the Congress to anyone to exchange, remit, or cancel any part of the indebtedness of the allied governments In ·d ew of practical refusal of Bl"itish Government to further to the Unlted States represented by their respective Jigatlons of the British there is nothing more that can be done here­ Go~ernment llelu l.Jy the Uniteu States, whether represented by demand In Paris- obligations or by olJligations having a fixed date of maturity. It is so far ns questions with lll'itish nre involved, and in view of sudden highly improbable that either the Congress or popular opinion in thiR country will eYet• permit a can cella tlon of any part of the debt of the turn taken by tllese negotiations- llritish Govemment to the United States in order to induce the Britlsll Tllat is, r ef n~nl to continue uegotiations respecting refund­ Govcrnmeut to remit, in whole or in part, the deht to Great Bdtain ing, and so forth- of France or any other of the al!ieu governments, or that it woulu con­ I l.Jl'lieve it would be inaeen going forward between the offi­ accept such suggestions each time they have been made, an1l bns dnJs of the two countries. The following, in part, is the com­ pointed out in detail the considerations which caused its oh·ecl misled the public. It seemed incomprehensible action prec-ipitated a debacle in our l:ler nations? crcuits wbile planning to avoid. repayment. Since then four other settlements ha\e been made and a11- HoweYer, such seems to haYc !Jeen the case, as we can trace proved by Congress, all providing for cancellation, and now the vropag:mdu due to this cancellation project pmctically there is penlling for action by CongretSs ::;ix uiding for caneellation. . In short, of the 12 natious invol>ed in theEc settlements that tinned for nearly t"o year::; thereafter, sometime-s excecdi~g $300,000,000 per month. .As indicated, the development of thm obtained loans from the procee!ls of the Lib€rty honds that onr project went forward 'vith a pcrsh;tence that seemed born of people were asketl to buy uutil it hurt, every one is relicYetl complete confidence of ultimate success. of ultimate payment by cancellation except Cuba. Onr islanhs or European diplomacy. At the time of its ill(:ep­ tion uo one in this country would have dreamed of its ulti­ ject without equi\oc&tion, and ft.mtlly that 1\I~·· Lloye replied with scoru that the suggestion could come from no11e but a c br-en luJlefl into a state of com­ Novernl1er, 1919, J. P. l\forgan & Co. were appointed the agents plaiRance by as:mrances that the principal of these loans is of the Brith;h Treasury, and the Britic;;h Govemment':;; nceount to be paid. with the Federal Rescne Bank of New York was cloHell. Neither do the people of the debtor nations realize the truth. It \YaR intima ted to tbe business interests th:1. t our four or Jnst· as <'Omplucency hn.s been instilled in our people, so has Ji\e bi1llous of private foreign credits might be jeopardized vrcjmlice ngainRt .Americans been confirmE'tor pcoplc:-,'--llas been sacrificed to the theory tllnt m·y t~ formally demand payment of their demand obligations, the .American people should !Je chloroformed by quieti11g as~ur­ llcferrecl or took no action respecting refunding negotiations anccs into an ac<}Uiescc:nce re ~pec ting certain governmental di:;;­ snggestcd by our officials. Though tlle real reason for such com­ positions whPre complt>te aud full knowlcclge might cause irra­ plai~uuee and nonaction was not generally rendered apparent, tional reactions in\ol-ring unto\\a.rd political consequences. the British Premier diU not camouflage. He, at least, frankly F.Yl!H!Y DEBT C.1);Cl:LED wrntc President \:Vilson that bis Government could not bind ~Ir. President, I shall llOW address myself to the 11ropor.ition itself by nn arrangement which \\Ould prejul1ke the working of that the settlement of every wnr Joan thus far recommended hy an interullied agreement which might be reached. in the future. the unite<.l l::Hntes Foreign Debt Commission pro\'idel:l for cnn­ In short, he did not prolJOSe to r in the ca.Ee of the Great War, there would be no grounds of uebt of $10 000,000 several years ago, together with G per cent mere rig!Jt to appeal for a reduction ii). the interest rate, though interest, th~ rate fixeu in her origin~l obligations. Then came the1·e might be grounds for appealing to our conscience. How· 6558 CONGRESSIOX.t\L RECORD-_ SEN.A_ ~rE :Th1ARCII 30

eYer, a~ to whether tl1nt appeal was ju.·tifled would depend rushed to his fatller with the cheering news that he had saved wholly upon onr dit:cretioll. the pitchfork. Every war loan mnlh• lJy the United StateR was rE-presented Especially are these consi

Without ~ny !':pccltlc proof, I have for some tlmo Hl\Rpf'ctcd that the he gradually vaid to Italy between 1928 aurl Hl87, when Italy's loans made by Englanu to It'rauc;c and ltaly have not the sumo ~taml­ vaymen t::; termina tl', provided Italy is not in fllTe~ rs. ing as our loans to the .AllieR. 1 r er.nll ti.Jat ~Ir. Lloyd-George tolll me Mr. Rl·~mD of ~li 8s omi. Ho\v much is the gold? Engl:ln pn(·t oe Lo11tlon ~tHte:; tbat- and funrteen thousancl dollnr!-.l. Moreover, Great Britain is to " Italy shall reerhe a military contribution corrcspo11ding to h er pay uo Juterest wlwtever upon thi::; gold. .A.ssuming, a~ we strength alHl snt:rifices." lJave fll"C'\ionsly, that money is worth 414 per cent, Italy'::; pay­ ments fll"e :1pproximately aH follows, COllll.llll'ed with those to l\lr. IU.JED c,f ~liF::souri. 'Vill the Senator reaotlJ. 'I'll ird ______5, 000,000 24, 07 f> , 000 000,000 Iii <'it:ler Cllse it mu:-:t prol>nl.Jly liaR a tlir~ct r r laiion to the ol.Jligaliuns F on rth ______5. 23,1171,000 Fifllt ______-----______5, 000,000 2-1,, 776,000 of the Ituli:tu Gon'rmnent now held uy tile l>ritish Government, and 5, 000,000 24, 36.1, 0:>0 Sixlh ______------1t may w ell be that tiJP Britisll uesirn a general caucl'llation of intet·­ Seven tb ______----- ___ _ 14, 621, ouo 2.~. 167, 000 guvnnmentnl war tll'\)ts as a mwns of ubcbarging secret treaty pro­ 14, 706,000 24,754,000 vhions. If such is tbe case, the Britisll miglJt thus in great part at 'l'ot~ in 7 years ______------54,327, 000 161, 441, 000 our expeuse ui ·c harge tht·it· treaty obligations. Artielr :( IV of the p~ct of London pt·ovides that "Great Britain After the seYenth .rear the payments to tho United States untlrrtakcs tu fncilit•lte for Italy wlthoul delay ami on fa\'orahle coJI(il­ gradually iucrease, \Yhereas in the cn:-:o of Great Britain they tions tl:e coltclusiou of a loan in the London market amounting to not decrense !Jy regular stevs to .'21,915,000 in 1U86, the last pay­ le;;s th:1u £00,000,000.'' ment in 1987 being ~10,D!J8,000. The reCN·ence herein to immedii1te flnnnci11l as~i stn nce may well indi­ Re luced to annnal cl}ual installments Italy's total 11aymcnts cate that .\.rticle XI referred to general fin:lllciul assistance ou a larger to tile United States amount to about $24,000,000 annually; :,:t·nle. the avernge allowance made Great Britain is somewhere be­ tween $22,000,000 ann ij:24,000,000 a year. That Mr. Drn-l::::'s suspicion~ 11nd inference~ ,,·ere wcll-f'onncled The strong point of tlte British settlement is that they begiu JH e\'ide11t from the followiu~ excervt from a sveech in the to get au average payment immediately, ba<:keavin~ DlP. a very wldr discre­ of total payments dnring the fir~t 31 ye~u· s, wo but 26 pet· ceJ?,t. tion In the. e ncgotiatious, (llrected me to ba ve regard, among other Gre11t Britain realized thflt n bird in the !laud 'Yas worth two thin~ s, to the whole qnestiou of 0\ll" relatiom:hip with Itnly, uoth in the bush, an(l not only did she secure such an ad'\antage l.Jeiore, during, and ~:~1nce the war, which, ns you lwow, \las been one of but in addition she provided that auy securities afforded ng u unbroken friL' tulsltip anti conlial couverntion In ronny fields. Also it result of the refundiltg arrangement should be exempt from must be remembered that there ha \'£' bet-n on ,·arious ·ot:ca:;iotH:! tentuti\e any t11xation by Italy or any authority withiu Italy, no matte1· dlt~cnssiuus "·ith the Italian Government and othet· Bd ti~:~h Go.ern­ in whose bauds the securities might ultimately rest. ments on the t'CU fulfilled, the a period of 62 yearH, we ha '\e the results set forth in the princirlle of tbe virtual cancellation of the ovenvhelmin~ bnlk of the nccomvanying table. oulign nnc luaus. countries. • ~fr. HOWELL. 'l'his table "llows tllat the totnl dehts thus far It i. · oYiut 2.4, and in the catie of Belgium but 1.75. Thus it is without illterest $6,5:1:8,254,000. Add tllis to the <:auceled debts evident thnt Great Britain's eomparative uurden of war dehts anlh per ccut eomvouud interest. by the Debt Commif'~ion to Italy. In other words, that the FiJJally, should the GoYernruent determine to maintain taxa­ Deht Cnmrui::;8ion bore down harder upon Italy than it did tion and pay off our war del>ts in 43 yenrs, the lo:-;::~ withollt upon either Great Britain or Belgium. iuteregt would ue reduced hy little more than llalf, while om· Why was this leniency sho,vn to Great .Britain and Belgium lo~s at 311:! per cent interest would amount to ~14,270,000,000 . as compu1:ed with Italy'! 'Vhy did the Debt Commission agree However, the ruouey would be gone forer-er, '.\'llCl·eas it might to a settlement with Groat Britain that sllould not only pro­ otherwise ue earning interest. vide 1'or the cancellation of its deut, but, in addition, t!Je im­ uABILI'l'Y TO P..lY" TTlF.OllY position of a grent uurden nr1on the veo11le of the United States l\'lr. President, in pas~iug I 'vish to refer to the t!Jeory of in the way of :.tu intere~t deficit on account thereof and a " alJility to pay" ttiat, it if-; urged, has been tlle guitar of relati\ely greater lmrden iu the ci.t c of the Belgian settlement, our Forei~u DelJt Corum i~ s ion iu negotiating these deht settle­ while also proYidiug for the cancellation of that debt? meut~. From a vartiul analysis of certain <:a ·e:.,; it would np­ Thus, Mr. President, it is evident that if the "ability to pay" pen r that the star has been un itinerant comet ratller than a eoruet was in sight at the Ume the Briti8h aud Belgian ueut fixed luminary who:-;e vagaries of mo,·ement iu tlle firmament ~ettlements were made, it was not in the same degree a guiding of the Debt Commi~sion hns no countcqunt in the hbtory of light as it was when the Italiau debt settlement was made. such celestial Yisitors to our solar system. For instanee, it did In short, 1\fr. -:\tellon admits thnt the Foreig'U Debt Commission not seem to be within telescopic vision \vllen tho British and waFl harder Oll Jtnly tbnu on either Great Britain or Belgium. Belgian deut settlement::; \Terc made; it blazed forth in connec­ And from a consideration of Hecretary l\lellon·s indices it is tion with the Italian arrangc·ment, but mysteriously di::;ap­ evideut that had the corumiE~:'Iion ueen as exacting with Great penred when the deut of Latvia was refunded. Britain and Belgium it would not har-o recommeuded the I n the statement of Secretary Mellon before tllC 'Yays and <:ancellation of tllose uebts aml imposed. fl. tremendous interest l\reaus Committee of the House on Januury 2:1: of this year (leficit upon the American people. But we need uot stop hero tho following excerpts appear: for evidence that ability to vay is rather an excuse than a GRE.\ T llHI'l'AI:'I, BELOIUill, AND I'l'ALY-ABILITY '1'0 r .\1'-COliPJ.RISOX OF Yalhl reaf'oll for tlle Deut Commi~sion ' s action aud recommenda­

1:'\DlCES OF BUDONT1 ~' UADJ •! 1 A::\'0 DiCO::'IlFJ tion.. Consicler LatYiH, a little nation fronting on i.lle Baltic, 'l'hc comparaU\' e bul'4 , the compnrati\'~ Itnlian l>urden of war· lleiJls wuuly G.72, tho Britl&h ::!.-1, a ud tho Dclgiun by 1.75. lf, iusteud her just cuu:je. • • • CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· SENATE MARCil 30

In the years t'o11owlng the llbcration of the country energetic efforts :Mr. EDGE. Tie11re~enting the great ~tate of New .Jersey in were made to organize the state and to create the proper executlvt! part, I am quite conYinced that the people of New Jersey will clepartments Jn onJer to meet the various requirements of the devas­ consid.er that a very good ill'restment. tatml country. In 1920 tbe constih1ent asscmllly was elected on the M:r. HO\Vg'f.. D. It is a good investment for whoever is for­ basts of universal suffrage for citizens of both sexes, and the con:-~tttu­ tunate enough to own Uncle f:!am·s bonds, but for the UnitP.d 1 tion was elaborated declnring that Latviu shall be an independent StateK that owns tne obligations of.' these foreign govern­ democratic Repnllllc. • · Hy compulsory limitation in state ex­ ments-no. Forty per eent of each of the nmounts to wllich JWntHture, by an obsPrvatfon of the stt·icteRt economy in all depart­ I refer is the shore of the canceled debts thus far negotiated m en ts, anci an inci·eascd taxation the stability of the LRtvlan currency for each of the~e StateR. waR achieved. It was still more consolldatl'd by a money reform 1ntro­ I might a.·k the Senator from New Jersey if he tilinks that clucin"' the gold basis for the currency Rystcm. Since 1923 the mone­ the people of New .JersP.y look with any that they will look with any Alabama, •rennessee, Kentucky, Iowa, North Carolina, nnd degree of satisfaction upon tbe fad that tl.teir :;;hare of our Vi.rginia have alJout the same population as Latvia, yet while 11ational debt w1Jieh llas been canceled thus far, or is proposed · Latvia's totul debt is less tilnu $11,000,000, the portion of our. to be canceled under the pending settlement, amounts to national delJt fulling to tile lot of eacll of these States on $240,000,000. a population basis is approximately $430,000,000. Ohio's Mr. EDGE. I uo not want to interrupt the Senator unduly, share is more than $1,000,000,000 ; Illinois, $1,200,000,000 ; but I feel quite confident that the people of New Jersey look, Pennsylvania, !$1,GOO,OOO,OOO; New York's nearly !$2,000,000,000. just a.' I am Rure the people of practically every State in the Why, Mr. President, the share of my State, Nebraska, depend­ Union do, a little further than the queRtion of the cancellation ent upon agriculture, is $2:36,000,000. And yet, 1\.lr. President, or the comparative cancellation brougllt ahont lJy the settlc:!­ Latvia, whose sl1are on a corresponding basis would be $455,­ ment. They look to wllat the results will prol.Jably be arul UOO 000 but whose actual national delJt is less titan $11,000,000, should be from an international business standpoint. That is inciudi~g what slle owes the United Sta.te::;-Latvi:>. has been the -view of tile motor mannfaeh1rers. Tilat is the view of the accord.ed a settlement that calls for payments equivalent to but farmers as evidenced by the Senator from Arizona [Mr. 3.7 per cent per annum on her deM of $5.804,000, and then, at ASHD'HST] in placillg in the HF£ORV ym;terday letters from vari­ the end of 02 years, the debt is to be canceled. In view of ous organizations in hfs State. All realize the · n eces:;ity of all tile circumstances, the grotesqueness of thjs settlement foreign trade. In the view of business development, or in my grows upon one with a study of the following table. lJusincsR experience at least, the settlement of a debt \vith a 1\Ir. NEEIJY. l\fr. Pre~ident-- debtor cun not always be consid.ered simlJly from the standpoint 'l'he PRESIDING OFFICER. Docs the Senator from Ne­ of the clollars anu cents immeuiately involved. In these settle­ braska yield to the Senator from \Vest Virginia? ments I tllink the futnre aud. wbnt we can reasonably expect l\Ir. HOWELL. I yield. in helping to :;tabilize the countries of tl•e world mm;t he Mr. NEELY. Can the Senator think of any good reason why consiuered in order that tile re. ults will red.oun<.l in splendid. our Foreign Debt Commission should have abated the amount dlviuends to tile bn:-;iu e~s men of the State of New Jer s~y and of the Latvian debt to this country in view of the fact that of every othe.r State iu the Union. Latvia paitl l!,rance and Norway in full? 1\fr. HOWELL~ l\lr. Pr(.>si1, 000 40.3 527, 072, 000 $247,000,000. I alHo wish call the attention the dis­ 83, 8S8 432,000 5. 2 78,624,000 to ot -~ Illinois ______56,665 6. 4fi!i, 000 115.7 I, 180,270,000 tinguished Senator from New Jersey [l\1r. EDGE] to the fact Incliana ___ ------36,31\4 2, 9:3 0,000 81.3 5:13, 260, 000 that on the same basis New Jersey's share of our war debt is Iowa______------______------5G, 147 2,404, 000 43.2 437, .~~, 000 .$574,000,000. Kansas ______------82,158 1, 769,000 21.6 321' 9.'i8, 000 Kentucky______---__ 40,593 2,417,000 60.1 4:l!), &94, oco l\1r. EDGFl Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Louis1 ana ______----_____ ------48,500 1, 799,000 39.6 327,418,000 Mr. HOWELL. I yield f01: a question. · l\'l:aiue_ •• ------33,040 768,000 25.7 13U, no,ooo 1926 CONGRESSION .A.L RECORD-SEN ATE 6563 United HtatetJ tear rfr.bt GfiJJOI"ffoned amonn tlir ra1·lo11s Sta.trs in Lithuania, less than 11,4 cents per Inhabitant. p1·opo1·tion to 1J07lula·tion- ContinucFUNDTXO BONDS t::-.8.1-LABLlJ: .!\' ew York _____ ------_ 49. 204 10, 38.'), 000 217.9 I, 890, 070, 000 Nort.h Garolinn ______1\2, 426 2, 5.'i9, 000 52.,::, 41),1), 7:18. 000 And as to the lmsinel's details of these st, Ir any, exemption from 'Yi'igconsl n ___ ------______/\6, 061) 2, 632,000 47. ti 479, 024, 000 taxation (subject to taxation, however, if owne.d by Italian subjects), Wyoming ______194,000 2. 0 35,308,000 9i, 914 payment in obligations of the United States issued after April 6, · Hl17, and the like, as the bonds sur1·enllered on such exchange, l\Jr. nowgr..L. l\[r. President. I realize that the I... atvian "' * • and thn t if r equested by the S<'cretnry of the Treasury settlement is rclath·ely of small moment, us it merely involves of the Unitetl States it will· usc its good offices to secure the Jlsting something less thnn $6,000,000, nud I have cited it merely as of the hond~:~ on such stock exchanges as tile Secretary of the Treas­ e\Jdence tl1a.t the tllC'ory of " Rhility to pny " has hN'11 at most my of the U 1~it ed Stutes may specify. only pnrtinlly followed; that this settlement ·was prohahly made to conform with the British settlement merely as a matter of It must h~ recognized that this provision indicates fore­ routine. thought anrl wisdom on the pnrt of our Debt Commission, for SA~TA CT.ACS AG.UX it would be indeed a hnppy solution in connection with onr Ag-ain, consider the settlement with Esthonin, a nation just foreign debts if securities in such form could be issued and north of Latvia, witll 1,800,000 inhabitants ane mnde in connection with future inte111ational developments. Deht Commil"siou :1t about ~a :3. S:H .OOO. HoweYer, to rertch this Bnt, 1\Ir. President, although ·such a provision in one form tlgnre the c:onnHi~Riou agreed to nu initial cancellntion of or another finds place in the various debt-refunding agree­ ments, its advantng-es arc neutralized in the case of Italy, for $2,3RO,OOO, & bout :j:1.900,000 thereof being exen~efl in the neighborhood of two or tllree hundred millions mis~don unanimom!ly; secoll(], approved by the President of in 1815. From tl1at time on she ha~ continuously added to her the United States; third, rati1iecl hy a dedsive majority of the debt with no ~crious attempt to reduce it. Hou~;e of Representatives; and is now before us for the funrth . 1\lr. President, I can neither vote for the refunding arrange- and final action with three affirmative actions that lln...-e gone m cnt with Italy, nor for any of the other refunding settle- before. ments awaiting action by the Senate. I believe in the appHca- The Senator from Nebraska [Mr. HowELL] exbausthrely and tion of business methods to the conduct of public affair~-that well, from his angle and ...-iewpoint, attempted to demonstrate in dealing with the funds and other assets of the people we that the settlement is in effect a cancellation. I have no should apply the same rules that prudence dictates in private objection to that term if be prefers it. I recall that the db;­ bmdncss transactions. In my opinion, these agreements provlU- tinquished Senator from Arkansas [Mr. Rom~soN] ye::;terclny ing for cancellation do not accord with such standards. used the same expression, and quoted the Se<:retary of tlJC Moreover, in cloHing, I must again emphatically protest against Treasury. In my judgment, \VOr(1H mean little in this Rettle­ tbe statements that have been and are being sent broadcast to ment. Call it a C'ancellation, cnll it a dh;eouut, call it a r efund ; tbe effect that the prindpal of these great debts are to be paid. it makes absolutely no difference HO far as admitting the set­ These statements conceal from the majority of the people, un- tlement as it is 11resented to us is c on c~erned. familiar with uccounting and interest. the real facts. It may Yes; it is a reduction of approximately 75 p<:!r cent of the serve politic:::.l expediency, but we should serve the broad, sound debt; but while I think it relatively unimportant, I contend policy that a self-governing people must be informed in respect in approac:hing these settlements the DeiJt l!'umling Commis:::ion to their affairs Je~t. as a Nation, we be robbellar Rg~{~~~~: i~~~.' with all the difficulties of those nations across the sea, with all Borah Fletcher McMaster Sllepp::ml • the changes of governments wllich have taken place, especially Bratton Prazier l\1cNa'·l l-lhipstead in the great Republic of France and in some others, I sti1l feel ll~~~~~;1~j ~i'1~~:?£ ~i~i~; d ~~~~f1riclge quite optimistic and confident that jnst us we have had our nrnee Glm:s l\I~tc~lf Smoot difficulties-of course on a mucll smaller scale-and. overcame BntiP.r Go!!' MosPs Rtanfi<'ld them, so will those great co1mtrie~ in Europe, going through ~~~;~~n ~i~~~ing ~~~i:Is ~~£~:~: varion~ vicissitude~, meetin~ crisis after crisi~, bnt funda- Caraway Harrc>lU N:w~ 'l'Vson mentally sow1cl, with svlendid national spirit and splcnt, as I mons with ery beginning of the war. cording to the record which I have before me, that settlement M~·. EDGE. Of course; bnt, speaking generally, while the was ratified by a vote of 70 in the affirmative to 13 in the Na,·y, of course, did help them, ''bat they wanted was our negntive. troops on the other ~ide. This was not a naval war to any great extent. It r equ.ired H months to get our troops there. Mr. FESS. l\fr. President, will the Senator yield further? In the meantime, through several acts of Congress, we author­ Mr. EDGE. I yield. ized the loan of billions of dollars, the first loan, as I recall it, Mr. FESS. I have not gone into this fully, but I have under­ lJeing three billions uf dollars. They were fighting our war stood that Italy is suffering a heavier local taxation than any then. It "·as our war just as much as it was their war. In other county in Europe, outside of Britain. plnce of our troops they bad our money, I ha'\'"e nevet• taken l\Ir. EDGE. There is no question about that. the position, and onsideration. this afternoon which seems to me a little

::ulvocates of tlu• ~Pttlrmrnt co11tenOsitlon to invoke the of cour~-refore be certainly onght lust few e them. I ha>e referred to the sentimental side in l\lr. EDGE. I think I have expressc by the different allies she considereGE. I might answer that by referring to the re­ her payments o>er 77 years? markR macrioe exhausted? Mr. HOWELL. I yielded to the Senator from New Jersey. 1926 CONGRESSIONAL ll.ECORD-SENATE

Mr. EDG~. Aniewpoint notwithstanding the fact that her exports only amount to one­ tllat Italy would not be at all disapl)Ointed if the ~enate half the total of her import:::;, notwithstanding the fact that failed to ratify the agreement. If half we hear about Italy she can never have, of course, under those conditions a favor­ and ller internal uifficulties anecuuse of of tlle Senate of the United States we repudiate it, ju~t what this difference. i::; our l)Ositlon? The American taxpayer is reprcsenteer of Commerce. As everyone knows, they represent one should happen·: We would be in the position of failing to of our greatest lines of export. Tlle letter reads : ratify for Tea~ons a~signecl that in my judgment in no way meet or mea1:mre up to the great importance of the problem. NATIONAL A.UTOMODILE CII.. EifBER 01l' co~unnnCFl, The reasons assigned are primarily based on happenings in New rork, Maro11. 10, 1926. Italy domestically spea1dng, and a policy on the part of their Ron. WALTillrt E. EDGE, Premier, which has furnishecl the burden of the opposition to Urr.ife.a States Senate, Wasl1tngton, D. 0. MY DE.\R SENATOU : ll~tiflcation of tlte ltulinn debt Rettlement is the ratificatio~ of the settlement. I 1.."llow little about Italy's extremely desirable from the stanupoint of American industry, in the internal affair~. I know tllat that is a matter entirely her judgment of the members of the National Automobile Chamber of owu lmsiness. I recognize that it might be a matter concern­ Commerce, composed of practically all o( the motor-ca.1· manufacturers ing UR, but in that C\s has been fully protected by the distinguished gentlemen compris­ tainly their Government has la::;ted for several years, and we ing the Debt Funding Commission, and their judgment that this was can not say that of some of the other European governments. the best settlement which could be made should l.Je taken. At any rate, that is their affair. We are alone trying to settle In a general way, our members further lJclie\e that American pros­ an obligation ·with a debtor. perity largely depends upon the al.Jility to dispose of our surplus abroaa. Frequently references have heen made to the German reparo­ This means that we ha\e a real interest in the stabilization of Europe, tion:-::, that they must he vaid in order that Italy may pay her one of our largest customers, and in the increase in the purchasing obligation to Great Britain, and, if this plan be ratified, to us. power of her people. Prompt settlement of the war del>ts is an inte· Some doubt has l>een expressed by the f\enator from Arkansas grul part of this stabilization, and consequently our membc1·s are [Mr. RolliNSON] as to whethet· the reparations will l>e met aH hopeful that favorable action will not be unduly delayed. Very tmly, they are now expected to he met. In this connection, it seems to me, it woul

They are looking for markets. The· only way they can ·get near illuminating. [Laughter.] I meanf that ~;erio usly, Mr. Preb-1- to a maximum of prosperity, in my judgment, from a purely dent. bn~ine:;:; standpoint is through such settlements. They are in 1\lr. llElDD of PennHylvania. Aud in plain language it is the intere. t of American business. this: It is like a merchant who is in difficulty. and has to take l\Ir. SMOOT. The Senator might add that there were care of hi::l existiug debts before be ean provide for going . $!ll ,000,000 of cotton exports to Italy for 1925 as against an ahead. He has got to balance bls operating expenses allll entire importation of $102,000,000. also his income; that is an internal matfer. That is why l\Ir. gDG ID. I am glad to have the later figures, which l Italy had to balan<:e her budget. But the foreign debt of a •lid not have. government is like the e:s::h;ting debt of the merchant to a bank Mr . .JOHXSON. :Mr. President, will the Senator yield? or outside creditors. The important thing in the resumption The VICE PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from New J er­ of his future trade is uot the mea:-;ure on wbil'h he settle::; hnt sey yield to the Senator from Califoruia? the fa<:t of settlement. Italy can not c..xpcd to huve credit Mr. EDGE. I yield. until her debt to us and her debt to Great Britain nre l'lettled Mr. .JOHNSON. Is the argument, then, that is advanced on some terms. What thoHe terms are doer; n"ot cUrectly affed that t be :;ettlement i:; thoroughly beneficial to Americau trade? the extent of the bn~inct-;s Italy cau do with u:s in the fnhtre, Is that the argument, am I to under~tand '? hut it hi dtul that there be a settlement. of that foreign cleht, Mr. gnGE. I am combining with a number of points which just as Yitul as it i:-,l tl!a t there be a hahmciug of her budget. iu my jmlgment make the settlement desirable, the fad that it Grauting that tllo:se t\Yu . things ure uet'omvlishecttlcm~nt, why uot have a better settlement and help Ameri­ California 1·eally meant his suggestiou seriously. can trade more 't ~rhen why not cuncel the debt and help Mr.. JOHNSON. I think the cxplanatiou of the ~enator from Amerknn trade even more? Pennsylvauin is a very excellent one from the ::;tantlpoint of l\Ir. J<]DGFJ. Does the Henator prefer a better settlement to ltuly; I think the !:;Cilator voices the situatiou in Italy mm;t tl1e United States or a canceling of the tlelJt? ext'ellently. I am not quarreling with what iR said by thP Sen­ :\lr . .JOHNSON. Do I prefer what? ator. He is stating tJ1e Italian position admirably. Mr. EDGE. I undcr~tood the Senator to ask why uot have l\1r. BOHAH. Mr. President-- a better set.tlt•ment or why not caucel the debt ; and I am ask­ Mr. HFJED of Pennsylvania. Mr. Pre:-:iclent, I slwuld like to ing him which be prefers 't answer the last sngge::;tion of the Senator from Culifornht. I Mr . .JOHNSON. Why not have a settlement better f011 Italy do not think that we as the .American Senate have uny bn:-;ineAs and have more trade or wlly not cancel the debt aud have still to consider this question from the Italian point of view. I more trade? If the argument is that if tJ1is settlement is think our attitude ought to be \Yholly selfish. 'Ve are here to made we will have more h·ade with Italy, then why not have r epresent American intere:sts. The Italians look after their n hPtter ~ettlement with Italy aud have still more trade with own interests quite adequately. I think we ought to lJe in­ Italy? ten~ely, everlastingly, Rnd utterly selfish in this matter. It is l\Ir. EDGE. Simply hecanse it has been decided, and I think because I helieve that from n selfish standpoint this settiC'ment wi:-:ely so, that we ~hould not cancel our foreign debts. I think is for our hest interest that I advo<:ate it. If I have cmTPt·tly the .-·enator from California and, in fact. all Seuators, RO far as understood the Senator from New Jer~ey, that is the position I know, have alway:-; felt that our foreign debts should not be which be i~ urgin~. ' CRncele

ft•om the standpoint of the next fin~ yenrs, I believe it is; hut now questioned in nrgumeuts and debates on the floor of the to me thnt is n minor matter in comparison to the many other SeU:nte. I know, ttnd anyone ·ettn fiucl it out, if be wishes to advantages I liUve attempteint, the lJOlitical si

:Mr. REED of Penn~yl'"nnia. I may say to the fienator that MISSISSIPPI AND O,IIIO Rn:ER BRIDGES AT CAIRO, ILL. I desire to speak f.or a few momc11ts in reganl to the debt set­ tlement sometime this afternoon. Mr. BINGHAM suhmitteu· tl~e following report: 1\h'. SMOOT. Very well. The committee of conference on tho disagreeing votes of tlte O!IIO RfVER nniDGF: NEAR LOUIS\"'ILLE, KY. two Houses on the amendments of tbe trud, meHt of the Senate and agree to the same with au amendment maintain, and operate two hi~hwuy or combinell highway nnll u:; follow~: In lieu of tl.Je language containe<.l in the Seuate railway bridges and approaches thereto ; one across the Mi~:-;is­ amcmlrneut iusert the following: . ~ipvi River at n point suitable for connt.'Cting the city of Cairo, "'l'hat tl.Je mu~ent of Congress is hereby grnnted to the city Ill., '\Yith State Highway No. 1G in the fif:.:'lte of :\Iissouri, und of J.. ouiSYille, Ky., or to any boar<.l or boards, commission or the other bridge to be located over the Ohio River at a point commi:::;sions, which may lJe duly created or estalJllshed for the suitulJJe for connecting the city of Cairo, Ill., with the gravel pnqJOse, to <:om;truct, muiutain, a'n<.l operate a highway or com­ highway from Wickliff to Pndncall, in the State of Kentucky, l.Jined higlnnly antl railway bridge aud approaches thereto and ea<:h of said brii11g adeqnate from the standpoint of the volume and Bridge & Terminal Co., its succcs:;ors and assi.~s, all ~mch ·weight of traffic which will pass O\er it. rights nn

promotion costs. Witllln three years after tlle eo~pletio_n of in certain actions, and for making judgm<'nts binding on all such bridge or bridges, the Secretary of 'Var shaH mvest1gate parties, and "for other purposes, \YUS rend the fir::,"t time lJy its tllc actual cost of such bridge or bridge~:~, and for such purpose title and the second time at length, as follows: the ~:~aJd Cairo BTidge & Terminal Co., its succeRROr!:! and as­ Be it enacted, etc., 'l"'"hat section D of the act of :May 27, 1!)08 (3G signs, shall make a \'ail able to the Sccret.ary of ·war all of its Stat. L. p. 312), entitlell "An act for tbe removal of restrictions on n .-eords in connection with the financmg and construction part of the lands of allottecs of the FiYe Civilized Tribes, and fot· otller thereof. The findings of the Secretary of 'Var us to such purposes," be, and the same is hereby, amendrd to reall as follows: original cpst silull be conclusive. " SEC. D. The death of any allottee of the Five CiYllized Tribes Rhall " S1w. 6. If such bridges or either of them Rilall be taken operate to remove all rrstrictions upon the alienation of said allottee's over and acquired by the States or political subdivisions laud: Provided. That hereafter uo conveyance by any full-!l!oou Indian ' thereof under the provisions of section 4 of this act, the same o.f the Five Civilized 'J.'ribes or any interest iu lanul:l restricteu by sec­ 1 may tilereafter be operated as toll bridges; in fixing the rates tion 1 of this act acqulred by inheritance or dcdse from an allottee of ~ l f toll to be charged for the use of such bt·idge:-;, tile same such lundl:l shall be vulld unless approved by the county court having shall be so adjusted as to provide as far us _possible a sufficient juristliction of the settlement ot the estate of the decea ed allottee ot· . fund to pay for the cost of maintaiuing, repairing, aml operat- testator: J!roriued fr+rtltc,·, Tbat. if any member of the Fiye Civili~d 1 ing tlw bridge and its approaches, to pay an adequate return 'l'ribes of one-llalf or mo•·e Inuian blood shall die lca\'ing issue surviv­ on the cost thereof, and to provide a sinking fund sufficient to 1 ing, uorn since hlarcll 4, 190G, the homestead of such decruRed allottee amol'ti7-e the cost thereof within a period of not to exceed 30 shall remain inalienable, unless restrictions against alienation are re­ :rears "from the date of acquiring the same. After a sinking moved therefrom uy the Secretary of the Interior for the use and sup­ t'und sufficient to pay the cost of acquiring such bridge and its port of such is.,;ue, during their life or lives, until April 2G, 1!)31; l.Jut approaches shall Ilave been provided, the bridge shall there­ if no such issue survive, then such nllottee, 1f an adult, may dispose of after be maintained and operated free of tolls or the rates of his homeHtead by will ft·ee from restrictiont~: if this l.Je not done, or in toll shall be so adjusted as to provide a fund not to exceed the the event tlle issue hereiJUlbove provided for die before April 2G, 1D31, nmount necessary "for tile proper care, repair, maintenance, and tlle Ianll shall thP.n descend to tlle heirs, according to tlle laws ·of operation of the brldg·e and its approaches. descent and distribution of the State of Oklahoma, free from all r·cstric­ ~ · SF.c. 7. The right to sell, assign, transfer, and mortgage all tions : Pt"01:·i4led, That the word 'lssue ' as used in this section shall the rights, powers, and privileges conferred by this act is be constt·ued to mean child or children: Pt·o1:ided further, That the & hereby granted to the said Cairo Bridge Terminal Co., its provisions of section 2~ of the act of April 2GI 190G, as amended l.Jy 1 sut·c cs~ors nnd assigns, and any eorporation to wllich such this act, are hereby made applicu'ble to all wills executed under this lrigbt, powers, and privileges may be sold, assigned, or trans­ section : And provided further, That all orders of the county comt !ferred, or which shall acquire the same by mortgage fore­ appt·oving such conveyances of such land shall be in open court anu [ dosure or otherwise, is hereby authoTized and em~owe~·ed to shall l.Je conclusive as to the jurisdiction of such court to approve such. exercise the same as fully as though eonferred herem directly deed: Prot,ided, That all conveyunccs by full-blood Indian belrs hereto­ upon such eorporation. fore approved by the county courts s'!J.all be deemed and held to con­ "SEc. 8. The right to alter, amend, or repeal this act is clusivc.ly establlsh the jurisdiction of such courts to approve the same het·cby expressly reserved." except where more tban one such co~veyance of the same interest · And the Senate agree to the same. in the same land has been made l.Jy the same Indian to different That the House recede from its disagreement to the amend­ grantees and approved by county courts of different counties prior to mont of the Senate to the title of tile said bill and agree to the the passage of this act, and except that this proviso shall not affect and 1 saruc. may not ue pleaded in any suit brought before the approval of this act." w. L. JONES, SEc. 2. The statutes of limitations of the State of Oklahoma are DUNCAN u. ]!'LETCHER, hereby made and declared to be applicable to and shall have full IliRAl\I BINGHAM, force and effect against .all restricted Indians of the Five Civlllzed MORRIS SHEPPARD,., Tril.>CR, and against the heirs or grantees of any such Indians, and · Uanagors on the part of the Senate. against nil rights and causes of action heretofore accrued or here­ Ill. lD. DENISON, after accruing -to any such Indians or their hclr.s or grantees, to tho 0. B. BURTNESS, same extent anu effect and in the same manner as in the case o! any 1-'ILMA.N PARKSJ other citizen of the State of Oklahoma, Rllll may be pleaded in bar of .Manage9·s on. the par·t of the House. any nction brought by or on behalf ~ any such Indian, his or her heirs or grantees, either in his OV\'11 behalf or by the Government -of The report was agreed to. the United States, or by any other party for his or her benefit, to the same extent as though such action were brought by or on bc.baU SUITS INVOLVING INDIAN TITLES of any other citizen of said State: Prot"id~d, That no cause of action Mr. HARRELD. I ask unanimous consent for the imme­ which heretofore ilhall have accrued to any such Indian shall be barred iliate consideration of Senate bill 122G, to amend section 9 of prior to tbe expiration of a period of two years from nod after tbe the act of May 27, 1908 (35 Stat. L. p. 312), anc.l for putting in approYal of this act, even though the full statutory period of limita­ I force in reference to suits involving Indian titles, the statutes tion shall all:cady have run or shall expire during said two years' of l~itations of the State of Oklahoma, and providing for tile period, and any such restricted Indl.an, if competent to BUe, or his United. St:ltes to join in certain actions, and for making judg­ guardian, or the United States in his behalf, may sue upon any such ments binding on all parties, and for other purposes. I want cause of action during such two years' period free ft·om any bar of f to make a statement in regard to the bill. the statutes of limitations. This is a measure peculiarly apvlicuble to Oklahoma. It SEC. 3. Any one or more of ihe parties to a suit in the United 1 would put into effect the statute of limitations in regard to States courts in the State of Oklahoma or in the State courts of Indian titles in that country, and it has the unanimous in­ Oklahoma to which a restricted member of tbe Five Civilized Tribes ! dursement of the entire Oklahoma delegation in Congress. in Okln.homa, or the restricted· heirs or grantees of sucll Indian are After a painstaking investigation by the Department of the 1 parties, as plaintiff, defendant, or intervenor, and claiming or entitled 1 Interior, it was approved by them on the theory that it will to claim title to or an interest in lands allotted to a citizen of the 1 l>e beneficial to the Indians by making ihe titles more perfect Five Civilized Tribes or the proceeds, issues, rents, and profits de­ in Oklahoma. There is a unanimous report from the com- rived from the same, may serve written notice of the penucncy of. 1 mittee favoring the bill. A similar bill was passed by the such suit upon the Superintendent for the Five Civilized Tribes, and House on yesterday, and I understand that it is on the desk of the United States may appear in snid cause within 20 days thercufter, Ithe Vice President at this time. or within such extended time as the trial court in its discretion may I ask that it l>e laid before tile Senate nnd taken up for permit, and after such appearance or the expiration o.f said 20 days immediate consideration and that it be substituted for the or any extension thereof the proceedings and judg-ment in saill cause 1 Senate bill and passed. . shall bind the United States and the parties thereto to the same Mr. SMOOT. I presume it. will lead to no discussion? extent as tlloug!:l no Indian land or question were involved. Dupli­ 1\lr. HARRELD. I do not think it will. I ask unanimous cate original of the notice shall be filed with the clerk of the comt iu I consent that a similar Houseo l>ill which is upon the Vice Presi­ which the action is pending and the notice shall be served on tho dent's table be laid before the Senate. Superintendent for the Five Civilized Tribes or, in case of his absence 'l'he VICE PRESIDENT. 'l'he Chair lays before the Senate f•·om his principal office, upon one of his assistants, and shall be a bill from the House of Representatives, which will be rend. served within 10 days after the general appearance in the case of the The bill (II. n. 4761) to amend section n of the act of l\Iay 27, party who causes the notice to be issued. The notice shall be accom­ 1908 (35 Stnt. L. p. 312), and for 1mtting in force, in reference panieu by a certified copy of all pleadings on file in the suit at the to suits involving Indian titles, the .statutes of limitations of the time of the filing of the duplicate original notice with the clerk and · State of Oklahoma, and providing for the U~ited States to join shall be signed by the party to the action or his or her counsel of 6574 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE MARCil 30 record and shall be ser·nd by the Uniteu States marshal and due ceedings thereof may be the same as in the. contlcmnatlon uml ex­ return of service maue thPreon, showing date of receipt and service propdation of property in such States. of notice. If notice is not served within the tlme herein specified, SEC. 3. The saiu Charles G. lluffum, Anllrew J. Murphy, Lloyd or if return of sen·ice thereof be not made within the time allowed Stark, and W. J. Garner, their heirs, lr.gal rept·csenta.tives, and by law for the return of service of summons, alias notices may be assigns are hereby authorize(] to fix anu charge tolls for transit ove1• given until flervice and r eturn of notice is bad and in no event shall such brhlge and the rates so fixed shall be the legal rates untll the Uuite1l States be bound unless written notice is had as herein changed by the Secreta-ry of War unde.r the authority contained In spPcified: Pt·ot•idcd, That within 20 days after the service of such sucll act of March 23, 1906. notice on the Superintendent for the Five Ci v1Ilzed Tribes or within SEC. 4. After the date of completion of such bridge, as determined such exteuueu time as the trial court in its discretion may permit by the Secretary of War, eitbc1· the State of Missouri, the State of the United States may be, and hereby is, given the right to remove IllinoiP, any political subdi\·ision of either of such States within any Rucb suit pending- in a State court to the United States district which any part of such bridge is located, or any two or more of court by filing in such suit in the State court a petition for the them jointly, may at any time ncquire anll take ovet· all right, titlE\ removal of such suit into the said United Stutes district court, to and interest in such bridge nod approaches, Rnll interests In real be held in the ui~Strict where snch suit is penuing, together with property necessary therefor, by purchase or by condemnation in . the certified copy of the pleadings in such suit served on the accordance wltb the law of either of such States governin~ tho Superintendent for the Five Civllized Tribes as hereinbefore provided. acquisition or private property for pui.Jlic purposes by con4emnntion. It shall then I.Je the duty of the State court to accept such petition If, at any time after the expiration of lu years after the compiPtion and proceed no further in sahl suit. The said copy shall be entered of such bridge it is acquired uy condemnation, the amount of damages in the said district court of the United States within 20 days after or compensation to I.Je allowed shall not include good will, going Yalue, the filing of the petition for removal anu the defendants and inter­ or prospective revenues or profits, but shall be limited to the sum venors in said suit shall within 20 days thereafter plead, answer, or of (1) the actual cost of constructing such bridge and approaches, demur to the declaration or complaint in said cause, and the cause less a reasonable deduction for actual uepreclution in respect of such shall th~>n proceed in the same manner as if it hall been originally bridge anu approaclles; (2) the actual cost of acquiring such Inter­ commence(] in said distl'ict court, and such court is herei.Jy given juris­ ests in real property; (3) actual financing and promotion costs (not diction to bear and determine safd suit, and its judgment may be to exceed 10 per cent of the sum of the cost of construction of such revieweu by certiorari, appeal, or writ of error in like manner as if the bl'idge and approaches and the acquisition of such interests in real suit hall been originally brought in said district court. property), and (4) actual expenditures fot· necessary improvements. Mr. HARHELD. I ask that the Bouse bill be put on its SEC. 5. The said Charles G. Butrum, Anurew J. Murphy, Lloyd ~tark, paHRage. an1l W. J. Garner, their heirs, legal rept·esentatlves, and assigns shall, The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there objection? immediately after the completion of such bridge, file with the :secre­ There being no objection, the bill was consistate and othe:t District of Columbia? property are located upon making proper compensation therefor, to Mr. CAPPER. That is all; and it only extends the thm!l o~ be ascertained accoruing to the laws of such States; and the prC) those permits for one year. 1926 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 6575 The VICE PRESIDENT. Is tllere objection to the present way of sllipbuildi:ng, when it is considered wllat we ly with the interests of the United States; that the Italian and wo were fighting through preparation. I do not think there commissioners and the Italian Parliament which ratified the cari be any reason for any difference in meaning. That is my debt settlement are presumed to take care of the interests of only object in interrupting the Senator. . Italy. I tllinl{ there is no room for any sentimentalism on our Mr. REED of Pennsylvania. I do not think there is any part about the interests of other lands. ·we arc here to repre­ differcuce in meaning between the Senator from New Jersey sent the United States, and we are sent here to be selfish. and myself, but it did not seem to me that we ought to leave That selfishness should, of course, be an enlightened selfishness room for the possibility of a misunderstanding about what he and should be tempered with the spirit of fair play which and I both mean. Neither of us thinks, I know, those coun­ always has tempered American uegotiations. I wanted that tries wero fighting for us in any such sense as ~o create au thought to appear as an expression of my views because in obligation on our part now to permit them to default in their the colloquy that took place there was something said about a obligations to us for the money tba t we loaned to them. The selfish attitude. Senator did not mean it in that sense of the word, I am sure. Furthermore, there was a discussion in the course of the Mr. EDGE. I do not think tho Senator said it so that· it afternoon about the comparative merits of the British settle­ could properly be so interpreted. I said, or inte11ded to say, it ment and our own. I did not want to interrupt the speaker was entirely pro11er to tt:tke into consideration, when '"e were auy more than he had been interrupted, but I think we ought con.c;;idcrin.g the capacity to pay, that for 14 months we were to catTY the tllougllt in our mind that Great Britain needs unable to do more than help in furnishing supplies and ammu­ money to-day for her governmental expenses much more than nition . . I think that is approximately what I said. we do ; that she is harder put to it than we are to balance l\11·. REED of Pennsylvania. After 14 months of preparation her budget ; and that she can afford and sile prudently did the greatest military expedition that the · world has ever seen afford to surrender large future payments to get the benefit of was sent 3,000 miles across the ocean, and we sent tllem these increased present installments. That thought bas not yet equipped, and we kept them equipped to fight in the greatest been suggested, but I believe, in contrasting the two settle­ war ever waged. t do not think that America has any renson ments, we ought to bear iu mimi the difference in the condi­ to blush or feel any sense of peculiar obligation to her allies. tions between their treasury and ours. We do not claim that we won the war. That would. not ue l!~innlly-nnd this is the last subject I want to bring up-­ intelllgent. The phrase bas been used too often. But everyone another statement was made which I think ought uot to pass will admit that America's participation was decisive, and the unchallenged, and that was the statement thut after .April, long and short of it is that it had nothing whatsoever to do 1017, the Allies were fighting our war for us for more than a with the debt question or the debt settlement. year. It is jm;;t such remarks as that, 1\Ir. PrE> ident, that give I favor the settlement because I believe it is fair to the rise to the present spirit of criticism in :ffiurope against the United States and fair to the taxpayers of the United States United Stutes. The truth is they were not fighting our war and reasonable to Italy. I believe it is the best that an intelli­ for us. They were fighting their own war for themselves. gent American selfishness would dictate, and similarly I think, The truth is that we came to their aid very promptly with our although it does not concern us in the least, that it is the best Navy. The mine barrages that were sowed by our Navy in an intelligent Italian selfishness would dictate for Italy. the Adriatic and the North Sea were of the greatest value to Mr. JOHNSON. l\1r. President, I wisil to say just a word every one of the allied and associated powers, and we lost no in commendation of the latter part of the remarks of the time getting over there and sticking to it. I thought and still Senator from Pennsylvania [1\Ir. REED], tllo~e remarks which think we were very slow in setting about our preparations for dealt with our attitude during the World 'Var, and express war after war bad broken loose in Europe. my view that no American ought to indulge in expressions of But to continue what I was saying, I do not think that 1t depreciation concerning this country's attitude then, nnd that lies in the mouth of any Europeau country to criticize us on the no foreigner bas the right to indulge in any such expres ionf'!. score that they were fighting our war and that we were sitting I deem that to-day the remarks of the Senater from Pennsyl­ back here getting rich and making no effort to defend our­ vania were singularly timely, and I join in them. I recall Fielves. \-Vhen it is considered what we did in the way of send­ those dark days, sir ; I remember the first time that we sent i ng our Navy over, when it is considered what we did in the troous abroad; I rem~mber how we preserved an American 6576 CONGllESSION AL. RECORD--SENATE · . ·MARCH -3 0 Army over there; and I pny my · meed of praise to John J. That seems to be the whole purpose of the 1Jil1, accordi!lg to Pei·~hing for keeping in tlle field in l!'rance himself an .A.meri­ tho report. rau Army and having that American Army perform its duty · l\h'. ROlliNSON of Arkansas. I have no objection to the iu tlle American way. consideration of tile bill. I res'=:'nt, sir, the rem~ll'ks of men across the sea speaking of There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the our attitude during tlle war, stating that this country de.voted Whole, proceedeu to comilder the l>ill, which was read, as itself merely to making money, and indulging in those animad­ follows: versions of which we reau so much of late. Be it enacted; eto., That section 65 of the Code of Law for the Dis­ I rc~nt inore, sir, any American citizen or any American in trict of Cohtmbia, be, and the same hereby is, amenued so as to read the Congress of the United States who deals in derogatory as follows: fashion with the American attituue in lnl7 or in 1918. As h~s "Sll:c. 65. The general term of said court shall be open at all times well been sai in tllose days in ferrying across 3,000 miles of sea an Army general term, may regulate the periodR of holding the ~pecla l terms, snch as nen~r before had l>een gotten togetller on this continent fix the mJmber of said termR, ·and alter the same from time to time, of ouri-l ferrying them across antl having them answer the as public convenience mny require; may direct as many terms of any run to ~rms that we made in April, 1917. ·we , siJ:, of the special terms to be held at the same time as the public bnsiuess in ln18 .of which America may well be proud. may make necessary; may a!>slgn the several justices from time to Ther~ is no desire to uetract from the credit that is given time to the respective special terms; may establish written rules regu­ nny nation on the face of the earth ; there is no desire on our lating pleading, prnctice aud procedure, 1:1nd by said rules make such part to for the military nnd nonmilitary is l:ltateided, That if such vacancy occurs in vaca­ agree to the same witb an amendment as follows: Ju lieu of tion, such designation may be made uy the Cllief Justice, it in the Dis­ the matter inserted by said amendment insert the following: trict of Columbia, or, in his absence, by the senior Associate Justice of "Not exceeding $800,000 mny be used from the 'Military post snlered 14: That the House recede from it~ Such amendment of the code will permit temporary designation of disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 14 one of the as~istant clerks to act as clerk of the court until the vacancy and ag1·ee to the same with nn amendment as followA: On page c:an lle filled by appointment, an authority that tho court shoul~ have. 26 of the bill, lines 14, 15, and 16, strike out the words "pro- 1!)26 ,. ' . ~r•. "" CONGRESSIONAL. REOORD-SENATE 6577

<'.eedf'l t>f the Rale.c; of surplus real estate not heretofore covered northeast corner _of parcel 2~!:1/1 (sewage-ulsposal plant), thcn, t~ into the Treasury " and in lieu thereof insert the following: running with tbe northern line of said parcel, south 88 degrees 25 "• lHilitary po~-Jt construction fund' created in the act approved mlnutfs 80 . seconds west, 152.3!) feet to the southeast corner. Mm·ch 12, 1D2G, without reference to sections 1136 and 3734, of that part of section B assigned to the Army Air Service, anu show~ Hed~ed Statutes" ; and the St>nat~ agree to the same. by ID\!P on file in the . United States Engineer Department designated Amendment numbored 15: 'rhat the House recede from its "Fi~e B-88-66,H and dated March 14, 19:!1 ; t,hcnce running with tlhmgr<.:cment to the amend.ment of the Sen~te numbered.· 15, the eastern line of said portion of section n north o degrees 5 minntes untl agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu 29 seconds east 1,284.25 feet to intersect tile outer face of the Rea of the. sum proposed insert "$3,32!),812"; and the Senate agree w~ll on the left bank or tbe Anacostla RiYe1·, said point of inters~;c­ tQ the same. t~on being the northeal:lt corner of the aforementioned portion of sec~ Amendment· numbered 23: That the House receue from its I tJOn B as assi~ned to the Army Air Seryl~e; thence leaving said por~ disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbered 23, I tlon aUtl runnmg with. the outer. face of the said sea wall, anu de~ and ngree tu the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu fleeting to the right Wltb tbe arc of a circle the radius of which Is of the sum proposed in~ert "$!.l4D,60G"; and the Senate agree I 0~6- 2 feet, ~ortheasterly 581.!:10 feet to a point of tangency; thence to the ~:;arne . _ . 1 st1ll with sa1d outer fa•:t! south 71 degrees 50 minutes 54 seconds east Amell(lment numiJered 33: That the House recede from its I 1521.5:! feet, more ot· .less; thence leaving the said sea wall and rHu­ disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbereu 33, 1 nlng due south 1•5t1 8 feet, m~rc or less, to intersect the original aiHl ngree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu high water Hne ~f t.be Anucos~la Rh·et·; thence with said line north of tbe sum proposed insert "$350,000"; anu the Senate ngree 03 degrees 11 m!mJtcs west 107.61 feet, north 66 degrees 9 minutes to the same. west 10!>.13. feet,_ north 57 de~rees 56 minutes west !>5.8G feet, north Amendment uumberetl 47: That the House receue from its 40 degr~e~ 38 mmutes west 1 ' 3.47 feet, norJ:Jl 47 dPgrces 31 minntes 13 7 03 4 disagreement to the amendment of the Senate numbereu 47, we::;t !.)·;) "' feet,_ north ue~::~ee~ 7 minu:es w:st ~~.82 feet, south anu ngree to the same with un amendment as follows: In lieu 8n deg~ePs oG mmutes west 1::w.OJ feet, north 8- debrees 31 minutes e>f the sum proposed insert "$DOO 000". and the Senate agree west 1-7.50 feet to t~e eastern line of the above-mentioned parcel tc th a ' ' 239/1 ; thence with sa1d eastern line north 18 degrees 2 minutes eal:lt 'l'll~ ~o:!utee of confeorence ba Y'e not agreeu on amendments 1!>.99 feet to the bc·ginn~ng, conta_ining 34.5 acl·es, more or le:>s, nil as .llUJ.Sbered 3 7 10 11 12 22 28 30 a u sbown by sun~y book 50, page 1u2, of the rccorus of the office of the ' • ' • • • • • '34 ' n 48 · surveyor, Distnct of Columbia. J. \V. 'VADSWOitTII, Jr., 'I IriNG M p 'd t I h 1 w. L. JONES, ~' r. ~ . ~ · :· re~n en '. s oulu l ke to ask the dmir- 'VJ.r. .J. HARrus, man of the comm1t~ee a fjnestlO~l. . THOMAS F BAYARD Mr. JONES of" ashington. The chmrman of the committee Mana,yar·s on the pa~t of the Senate. has been called to Bnltimore. . l\1r. KING. Do s the S~nntor from Washmgton recall D. H. ANTHONY, Jr., whether this land is for the so-cnlleu arboretum? ~· El. BARBOL:R, Mr. JONES of Wa. hington. I do not think so. The arbore- 1! HANJc CLAGUE, tum is not mentioned in tlw report. I will reau a brief pnrn- BEN JOHNSON, graph from the rePQrt which will explain the purpose of the T. W. HAimrsoN, bill. · Manuyers on the part of tlw House. Mr. KING. The Senator has in minu the fact that there hns been a considerable effort maue to establish a ::50-calleu The VlCFJ PRESIDENT. ls there objection to the present arboretum. consideration of tl.H? conference report? Mr. JONES of Washington. Yes; 'but this }Jill does not cover There being no objectiou, the Senate proeceued to consiuer that. I will reau a brief extract from the report, as follows: tlle report. The c>fiect of the passage or this bill will be to authorize and dirf'ct 1\ir. ROBINSON of Arkam;a . Mr. President, I should like the DirPdOl' of l'ubllc Builuing::; and Public Parks of the National tf> hnve the chairman of the Committee on Military .Affairs Capital to transfer to the jurisdiction or the Commissioners Of tbe make an analytical statement of the eiiect of the agreement District of Columbia a part of Anacostia l'ark for use as a trPe reached by the conferees. I think it will be helpful to the nursery. The tract to be conv<'yetl contains approximately 35 acres Seuate. of land .and is located ncar Bolling Field. It is now occupied as a Mr. W ADSWOR'.rH. Mr. President, us the hill passed the tree nursery, under tempomry authority granted to the District C 1ln­ Senate it carried an aggregate of appropriations of $343,- mlSSJOners. The District n.lready bas an investment In tbe nursery 153,000--I am leaving off the ouu figures-while, ns reported of nbout $!!0,000, including a · large number of young trees, fences I'Ur­ from the conference committee, the bill curries $342,GOO,OOO. rounuing tbe tract, water mains, roads constructed, a work shetl, aud The principal reduction made in the bill as it passed the a barn. Seunte is one of $D88,000 in the item "pay of the Army," the The bill is recommen<.leu by the Cc.mmlssioners of the Dis­ result of which will be to decrease the number of places in tt·ict anu is also recommcndeu by Colonel Sherrill, who was tbe enlisted personnel occupieu by noncommissioned officers, formerly in charge of public builuings and grotmds. snch as sergeants and corporals. The bill was roportetl to the Senate without amendmeut, Another important reduction in the Senate bill is the elimina­ ordered to be engrossed for a tllird reading, reau the thiru time, tion, to which the conferees felt themselve~ forced to agree, of the avpropriations for holding the annual national rifle matches and passed. at Camp Perry. The items for that actiYity aggregated in BILLS PASSED OVEH. round :figures $450,000. The Lill ( S. 2981) to amenu section 553 of the Code of Law 'l.'he other important proposals auopteu by the Senate were for the District of Columbia, was nnnounced as next in order. in the main accepted by the House confereeH. Mr. JONES of Washington. At the request •Jf the Senator I can go through the bill item by item, if the Senator from from Kansas [l\1r. CAPPER], the chairman of the committee I Arkansas desh·es, but if that is a :sufi'icient sketch of the prin­ will ask that that bHl may be passed over. ' cipal changes ronde in conference, I will not further uetain Tho VICE PRESIDENT. The IJiU will be passed over. the Senate. The bill ( S. 3300) granting pensions and increase of pen­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The question is on agreeing to sions to certain soldiers and sailors of the war with Spain, the conference report. the Philippine insurrection, or the China 1·elief expedition, to The report was agreed to. certain widows, minor children, and helpless children of such soldiers and sailors, and for othe1: purposes, was announced as TREE NURSERY I~ ANACOSTIA P.ARK, D. C. next in order. The VIC:ID PllESIDIDNT. The next bill on the calendar will l\lr. KING. ~Ir. President, there are some cognate measures ue stateu. that ought to be considered, and it will take a greater time to The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to con­ consider them than is a-vailable under the 5-minute rule. So sider the bill ( S. 2853) to authorize the transfer to the juris­ I will ask that the bill may be laid aside temporarily. diction of the Commissioners of the District of Columbia of a The YICID PRESIDIDNT. The bill will be passed over. certain portion of th•J Anncostia Park for use as a tree nurs­ TERMS OF DISTRICT COURT IN OKLAHOMA ery, which was read, as follows : 1.'he bill ( K 1DG2) to amenu section 101 of the Juui<:ial Be it enacted, etc., That the Director of Publtc Buildings and Pub­ Code, as amenued, was announced as next in order. lic· Parks of tbe National Capital is hereby authorized and directed l\1r. ROBINSON of Arkansas. l\1r. President, I inquire In to - transfer to the jurisdiction of the Commissioners. of the District what pa1·ticular does that bill amend the Judicial Code? · of Columbia the following-desc'rlbed United States land, being a part 1\lr. HARRELD. I will say to the Senator that it merely of Anacostia l'ark, for use as a tree nursery, viz: BPginnlng at tbe changes the time of holding court .ill various towns in the 6578 CONGRESSIONAL RECO.RJD-:SE.NATE I\i.Ancn 30 western district of Oklahoma anu is requesteu ·by the tjudge Be .it .enacted, etc., Tllat pura~mpll (1) of section 22 of the inter­ of the district. state commerce act, as amenllcd, be amended !Jy. nulling at the ~nd Mr. ROBINSON of Arkansas. \ ery well, I have no objec- there.of the following new sentence: ·"Nothing in this act Rhull pre-.· tion to tile bill. >cnt any currier or curriers su)>ject to this net from giving reduced 'l1here lwing no objection, the Senate, rr-s in Committee of rates for the transportation of property to or from any section of the ! the \Vh01.e, proceeued to consider the bill, which wris -read, as country .with the .olJjec.t or providing relief in case of e:urllquake, flood, fire, famine, drought, epidemic, pestil~nce, or other cal:tmitous visita­ 1 follows: \. tion· or disaster, if such reduced rates have first been authorized !>y IJIJ it enacted, etc., That the act of Congress approved. February order .of the commission (with or wJthuut a hearing-) ; but in any sucl1 lG, Hl2;J, amcmliug section 101 of the Judicial Code as ameuded, 1 order the commission shall define such section and shall specify the is herel.Jy aHte11deu as follows: period during which such reduced rates are to remain in effect." rrhat the terms of Di trlct Court for the Western Dif:;trict of Okla­ homa sl..tall be helu at Oklahoma City on the first Monday of 'Janu­ 1\Ir. KING. 1\Ir. President, this seems to be a ve1·y .iml)ortant ary, at .Enid on the first :.\Ionduy of ~larch, at Guilirie on 'the first measure, ·and .I should like to ha.ve some explanation of it from Monday of ~Iny, at Mang-um on the fu·st Monuay of Septeml.ler, at some member of the Committee on Interstate Commerce. Lawton on the first Mondny of October, and .at Woouwnrd on the 1\Ir. S:\IITH. Mr. Pt·esident, the Senator from Texas [Mr. fir~t J\Ionllay of Novemller: Pr·ovidcd, That suitable rooms and acc<>m­ MAYFIELD] introduced the bill, which is desig)ted to relieve com­ mouations for holding court at Mangum are furnished free of ex­ munities which might be visited by unprecedented drought or vcnf;e to the United St.'ltes: And pro~;ided further, Tllat the district other calamities. lt was desired to give the Interstate Com­ judge of salll district or, in his absence, a district judge or a circuit merce •Commission the ;power to lowet· freight 1·ates on certain judge assigned to hold court in said district may pot>tpf garbage in the District of Columbia .may lJe continued without future Commis~ion they cnn not grunt such relief to a. stricken ter­ interruption, the Commissioners of the District of Columbia are hereby ritory without granting the same fuvor to all parties within authorized to purchase all of the property now used for the reuuctlon the shipping district, and the purpose of the bill is to amenu of such garbage and located in Prince William County, Va., and 'lt>ascd the lnw so as to enable the commission to relieve the district from John E. Baker and the estate of Daniel Baker, comprising ap­ which may be pnrticuln.rly uffected. proximately 25 acres, and in addition thereto 40 acres, more or let~s, The bill waR reported to the Bennte without amendment or­ of land adjacent thereto, as selected by the Commissioners of the Dis­ dered to be engrossed for a third reading, rend the tbiru time, trict of O>lumbia. and passed. S~<:c . 2. That in the event that a price can not be agreed upon be­ MINNESOTA RIVER BRIDGE .AT OR NE.AR SHAKOPEE, MINN. tween snill commissioners and the property owners Jn interest for the The bill (H. R. 8950) granting the com;ent of Congress to purchase or said lanu or any part thereof, 'With the improvements the State of Minnesota to · construct a bridge across the Min­ thereon existing, then all or such part thereof as is not purchased is nesota River nt or nenr Shakopee, l\Iinn., was conside1·ed ns h r. r~>by declu.red to be, and the same hereby is, conllemned and appro­ in Committee of the Whole. priutell to and for the nse of the Unitro States of America, •to be used, The bill .had been .reported ft•om the Committee on Com.­ operated, -and controlled by it, through the CommisSioners of the ~erce with an amendment, on page · 2, line 4, after "1906," to Di~trlct of Columbia us its agP.nts, and said commissioners as such msert: agents be, and they hereby are, authorized and directed to take charge anu posResf;ion, in the name of, for, and by the authority of the .FroL'ided, That such ·bridge sl..tall .not •be constructed or commenced T.Jnited States of America, on tl.Je 1st day of July, 1026, of all of the until the plans and speciilcntions thereof shall have been submitted 1 property hereinbefore referred to or uescribed, and to use the same !or to and approved by tbe Secretary of War and the Chief or Engineers 1 the relluction of garbage of the District of Columbia. as being also satisfactory from the stantlpoint of the volume and SEc. 3. That in the event the property llereinbefore referred to and weight of the traffic which wlll pass .over it. .describeu, or any part thereof, ·Is not purchased, anu is condemned, as Mr. TIINGHA.111. Mr. President, I move to amend the ('Om­ herein provided, it e.hall be the duty of the Attorney General, upon the ·mittce amendment in line 7, page 2, by striking out the word .re(}uest of the CommiRsioners of the District of ColumlJia, to file, in "satisfactory" and inserting the word "-adequate." .tbe name of tlle United States, apprQpriute proceedings, and the The VICE.l PH.ESIDENT. The amendment to the amend­ United States circuit or ulstrlct courts of the district wherein ment will be stnteu. such real estnt~ is located, shall have jurisdiction or proceedings for The CHIEF CLERK. On -page 2, •llne'7, it is proposed to striko such condemnation, and appeals may be llad from such courts us other- out "satisfactory" antl inHert "adequate." wise prodded !or uy law. I The amendment to the amendment was agreed to. SEC. 4. The practice, plc::Ldlngs, forms and modes of proceedings The amendment as amenued was agreed to. shall conform, as near us may be, to the practice, pleadings, forms anu The bill was reported to the ·Senate as ·amended, and the proceedings existing at the t.lme in llke causes in the courts of record ·amendment was concurred in. <>f the State of Vlrglnla., any rule of tho court to the contrary notwith­ Tho amendment was ordered. to be engrossed and the bill to standing. 'be read a ihird time. SEC. ~. That for the purpose of carrying Into effect the pro>lslons The bill was read. the third time and passed. . of this act the sum of $10,.200 .ls hereb-y authorized to ue appropriated RENO L"''DIA.N COLONY, NEV..ill.A out of the revenues of the .District of Columbia, and sai, for the .purchase of a tract of lnnd in order to securo The Senate, as in. Committee. of the :whole, proceeded ·to con-. water for tho .Indians. lfy. recollection is that a bill for that sider the bill (.S. 3286) to authorize reduced freight 1·ates in .purpose Tias passed. a few days ago. \Yhethcr or not it was a cases o~ . emergency, which was !eitd, as follows t d.iiierent ..blll I am not ,prepared to say. 1926 CONG-RESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 6579

Mr. HARRELD. If the bill may be passed over for the pres­ LOCATION AND EXTE"KT OF POTASH DEPOSITS ent, I will look into H. I wa:-; looking at another bill at the The bill (S. 1821) authorizing joint investigations by the moment this one carne up. United States Geological Survey and the Bureau of Soils of 1\.ir. JONES of Washington. Very well; let it be passed over the United States Department of Agriculture to determine the for the present. locntion and extent of potash deposits or occurrence in the The VICE PRESIDEN'l'. The bill will be pn.ssed over tem­ United State!:; aud improved methods of recovering potash porarily. therefrom was announced as next in order. Mr. JONES of Washington subsequently said: Mr. President, Mr. KING. Mr. President, that is a -rery important bill. I have examiuecl Senate bill 198!J, aud I am sathdied that it is Let it be passed over. a different bill from the one which was passed the other day. The VICE PRESIDENT. The bill will be passed over. I can see no objection to the bill, so I withdraw my request JOSEPH MAYHEW that it be passed Qver. · There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the The bill ( S. .856) for the relief .of Jos·eph Mayhew was con­ Whole, proceeded to consider the bill, which was read, as sidered as in Committee of the ·whole aud was read, a:-; fol­ lows: follows : Be it enacted, etc., That the rreRl!lent of the United States is hereby Re it enacted, eto., That the Secretary of the Interior be, anl of the United States may be used for payments of poses, in order to promote the ·continuous pro27. 1\h'. WADS,VOUTH. Certain specific injuries which are mf'ntioned in the bill. l\fr. NORRIS. Mr. President, the Committee on Agriculture l\lr.. KING. It does- not (]cal with any other class of cases? has heretofore reported a joint resolution identical with the 1\ir. ·wA.DSWOTITH. Not at all. It applies to the \ery one ju::,;t read a11d it was passed by the Senate. It seems that instean of taking up in the House the Senate resolution, as F:everely i11jurent consideratio.n. The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, procecfle1l to There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of t11e consider the Lill, which had been reported from the Com­ Whole, proceeded to consiller tee joint resolution, which was mittee on Pension& with amendments, on page l, line 3, to reported to the Senate ·without amendment, ordered to a third r-;trike out the word " passage " and to inRert ill lien the1·eof reading, read the third time, and passed. the wor1l "appro1al" ;. on line 8, to strike out "$85" and to TRANSFER OF SURPLUS HOOKS FROM NAVY DEPARTM.E!'i"T TO I!\TERIOR inRPrt in lieu thereof " $65" ; on page 2 .. line 2, to strike out DEP.A.U.T:M:E:XT " :j;!)O " and to insert in lieu thereof " $75" ; on line 3, page The bill ( R. 56!>) to authorize the tra.n. fer of certain surplus 2, after the word "month" ancl the semicolon, to in ~ ert the Looks from the Navy Department to tbe Interior Depur:tmPnt words· "thnt ali pr.rsons who in like manner shall have lost was considered as in Committee of the Whole a.nu was read, as one hand or one foot and in addition thereto shall have lost follows: a portion of the other hanc.l or foot shall recei-ve a pension at the rate of $85 a. month"; on line 7, after the wora "foot," Be it e-nactc11, etc., That the Secretary of the ~nvy is llcreby nuthor­ to sh·ile a pension at the rate of $75 per ruontb; tllat as next in order. all per sons who In like manne-r shall have lost one hand ()r one foot. Mr. KING. Let tha.t go over. niJd in addition thereto shall lla-ve lost a portion of the other hand The VICE PRESIDENT. The bill will ue passed o\'er. or foot shall r eceive a. pension at tbe rate of $85 a month; that all CHARLES nAVID 01..' TIIER1DGE J"lt'r~om; who in like manner- shnll have lost one band and one foot or shall have been totally diRalJled in the same, shall receive n The bill ( S. 2746) to correct the naval record of Cllarlcs pension at the rate of $100 per month; nml that all peTsons who David Guthe1·iuge wns announced as nert in order. In like mannPr shall have lost l>oth arms oc l>oth lPgs, or have been l\1r. KING. I woul(llike to haye the a-uthor of the bill make totally disabled in the snmc, or shall have lost the sight ot both an explanation. Is this a case of desertion? eyes, shall recei>e a pension at the rate of $125 per month. Mr. CAUAW.AY. It is a cn..;;e wl.lere a boy attached to the shlp Cam,d.en disappeared in a Spanish port. The Government The amendments were agreed to. has reacl.led the conclusion tbat be was actually drowned. This Mr. Sl\ll'.PH. Before thi~ hill passes, may I ask the Senator is to correct his recorU.. from New York if it inclmles soldiers wllo have suffereu the. e l\1r. KING. I have no objection. d1Rabilities, r g-ar of the word The blll was ordered to· be {'ngros ed for a third reading, " Guthridge " ; on line 7. to strike out tbe word " GullieriUge" ren'l the tbi.rd time, nnd passed. and to ins;crt in lieu thel!eof the word "Guthridge," so a::; to l\lr. M.E.A.NS. l\[r. rreRid.ent. origiunlly I introduced Henate make the bill read : Lill !)8, the Rpanllih-Amcrican War bill, "\Vbich inclnrled tlwse taken care of in the Lill we lla.ve just passed, all(], in :::ienate uill Be it enactetl, etc., Tltnt the Secretary of the Navy be, and he Is a:wo, Order of Business 287 .. llereby, authorized aud directed to r eview the naval n •cord of Cl.Jarles The two classe3 were !ieparated, with tb.e idC"a. that one hill David Gut1uiugc, seaman second class, United Stutes Navy, and to remove tllc charges of desertion against fre said Cllarles David Guth­ could pa~s sooner than the otller. I now ask unanimous con­ sent to return to Senate bill 3300, and tbat we take that up fox: ridge . and to gran.t him an honorable discharger com;icleration. One Lill is as meritorious as the other. When The amendments were agreed to. tbe bills were separated the chairman. of the Committee on The?. hi:ll was reported to the Senate as amended anu the Pensions, with my consent, introduced the bill known as Senate nmemlments were concurred in. 6582 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· SENATE ~1A.RCH 30 TIH' hill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading read !)outhwesterly of Old Ot·chard Light, by a dredge of the United Stutes tlu• third time, nud passed. ' War Department, on June 10, 1023. 'l'he title was amended so as to read : "A lJill to correct the The nmcndnwnt was ag-reed to. uaYal record of Charles DaYid Guthridge." l\Ir. KING. I would like to have the Senator from Colorado GRANT OF L 1'\D TO KEY WEST, FLA. state the amount of the claim. The hill ( S. 32GD) to grant to the city of Key ·west, Fla., a Mr. l\IEANS. \Vc had hearingf; on this matter, co1ulucted lJy tnH:I of land belonging to the United States na,·al hospital at the Senator from Delaware fl\ir. RAYARD] and myself at that J•lace, \YaH om;idered as in Committee of tlle \Vllole and which there allpeared a representati\e from t.he War 'De­ ·was n•ad, as follow : partment and other:'! intcre!'ted. The amount of the damages will he determined lJy Govenm1ent officials, through cxamina­ Be it Cilcwted, etc., 'That the Secretary of the ~avy he, and he is tiou. Tllere is a question of fact which will have to lJe de­ hercuy, authorized to conYey to the city of Key West, Fla., all right, termined. 'l'he committee could not determine tllat, AO did not title, null interest of the United. Stutes in a certain tract of land proceed with the investigation to the extent of seeking to et and com:tructing a new sidewalk abutting the all the hearings there was no attempt made to find the amount Emi•l f::trl'et : P1·ovidca tw·thu, That the Secretary of the Navy is of the damages. f11rth cr nnthorized to execute on behalf of the United States all instm­ l\lr. KING. li'rom the investigations made lJy the Senator JUI'nt:,; nece8!'lary to accomplish the aforesaid purpose. from Colorado and lJy the Senator from Delaware, did the Senator reach the conclusion that a tort hau lJeen committed, Tile bill wns reportE>fl to tlle Senate without amendment, that tllere was negligence ou the part of tlle Go-vernment? onlerell to lJe engro::;~ed for a third reading, read the third Mr. MEANS. Yes. The Govet=nment engineer from New time, and passed. York said there llad lJeen no notice of the approval of the NATIO~AL ARBORETUM Govemment vesHel, and the evidence showed that they ruth­ The hill ( S. 1640) authorizing the Secretary of Agriculture lc:-:sly went right across the oyster lJed. These parties rented to e~tahlish a natio_nal arlJoretum, and for other purposes, was different oyster lJeds from the State of New York and from the auuoun<:ed as next m order. e\idence it appears that a Government ve sel i1ad ruthlessly Mr. KING. Let that go oYer. gone across the oyster lJed itself nnd destroyed it. The VIOE PRESIDENT. 'l'lte bill will lJe pnssed over. 1\Ir. KING. I hope procE>eding~ will be taken against the NATIONAL },'ORE TS officer in charge of the boat. I think he should be compelled 'l'he joint resoluUon ( S. J. Res. 37) authorizing tlle Secre­ to respond in damages. tary of Agriculture to cooperate with Territoric's and other Mr . .JONES of Washington. Is it expected that the Cour't of Claims shnll send their fiudings to Congress 1 pos~e ss ions of the United States under the pro\isions of sec­ tions a, 4, and u of the net of Congress entitled "An act to Mr. l\HJANS. Ob, yes. That is the reasou we sfl.y "alleged provide for the protection of forest lauds, for the reforestation damages." "'e allow no judgment. of denuded areas, for the extension of national forests and Mr . .JONIed Jnne 7, 1924. 1\:Ir. PlTT~IAN . I ask consent to have 11lacecl in the RECORn The joint rcsolntion was reported to tllc Senate witlwut a notice to take up the reHolutiou to amend r•aragrnph 2 of nmeuration a resolution this duy introuuced He it cnac_tcd, etc., 'l'hnt the United States Court of Claims !Jc, and hy me nnd read to the Senate proposiug to nmend va.ragrapll 2, it Js hereh.v, authorized and directed to l.Jcnr and determine the claim Rule XXXVIII, uy ~:~ul>stitu1ing n new IWragrnph for said 11arag:raph 2 or tlle Andrew Radel Oyster Co. for compensation for nllegcd damngc in the words set forth in said resolution as reau, and upon said resolu· sustained by the said Andrew nade.l Oyster Co. by reason of the de· tion llcing laid l.J eforc the Sennte 1 wlll move the alloption of the reso· stt·uction of certniu oyster !Jeds located in I:adtan Bay, auout 2 miles Iutlon as an amendment to said paragraph 2, Rule XXXVIII. 1926 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 6583 The purpofle of such nm;ndmcnt Js to. permit the Senate, at any is tlle financial standing of the bidder, but that can be ascer­ time, to remove the injunction of secrecy with regard to the votl."s by tained without tlle expenditure of $5,000. f;enators upon any and all nominations referred to in said Rule Mr. HEFLIN. The committee may not expend even a tllou~ X. rXVIII, and further to provide that the making public by a Senator sand dollars. - The House is to pay one-half of the expense. of his own vote upon :my such nomination shall not be deemed n 'Ve have proposed to amend the resolution so that there will violation of the injtmction of secrecy. not be an engineer employed.. I e the expenses The full text of the amendment is as follows, to wit : will be over $1,000 or $1,500, but we have put on a limitation •• Resolved, That paragraph 2, Itule X,XXVIII, of the standing rules of $5,000, and the House is to pay one-half of tlle expense, of the Senate, be, and the same is hereby, amended to read as follows, whatever it is. to wit: · It would seem to me that the Senator's objection is a reflec­ '' 2. All information com·municated or ·remarks made by a Senator tion on the committee. We have six members of the commit­ when acting upon nominations con.cernlng the character or qualifica­ tee, three from tlle House and three from the Senate, and tllose tions of the person nominated shall be kept secret, also all votes members of the committee ought to know wllat they need in npon any nomination. shall be kept ~ecret until the injunction of order to investigate the matter which they have been appointed secrecy is removed by the Senate. If, however, charges shall be made to investigate. I do not sec wlly Senators should object to pass­ against a person nominntcd, the comrulttee may, in its discretion, ing a resolution providing for a small expense fund for tlle notify such noruinee thcn'of, but the name of the person making such committee. The Senator hin1self permitted the special com­ charges shnll not be disclosed. The fact that a nomination has been mittee appointed to investigate the Tariff Comruissio;n the mAde or that it bas been conflrmcd or rejected, shall not be regarded other day, lleaded by the Senator from .Arkansa-s [1\lr. RoBIN­ ns a 'F:ccret. Rnd the making pul>llc by n Senator of his own vote shall soN], to have a resolution passed proviiling for an expenlliture not lie deeme-d a violation of t!Je injunction of secrecy." of $10,000. :z..IUSCLE SHOALS l\Ir. Sl\IITH. That is a different proposition. Mr. HEFLIN. Mr. President, I have been out of the Cham­ 1\.fr. HEFLIN. Every committee appointed has some expense ber attending a meeting of the joint committee on the leasing connected with it. "e have written letters to more ' than a of l\iu&:le Shoals. I now ask unanimous consent for the pres­ llundred people, sending them copies of the resolution and ask­ ent consideration of Senate concurrent resolution No. 4, which Ing if they wanted to bid. provides for payment of t1le expenses of the committee. I l\fr. Sl\fiTH. But tlle committee did not pay anything for have au amendment pending which reduces the amount from that. That mail was franked. $10,000 to $G,OOO . It provides for the payment of expenses not Mr. HEFLIN. But we must have a clerk, and we have had to exceed $5,000, and. half of the expense is to be borne by the some other expenses that have to be paid. IIoul"e of Representatives. The VICE PRESIDENT. Is tllcre objection to the present The VICE PHESIDEJNT. Is there objection to the present consideration of the concurrent resolution? consideration of the concurrent resolution? 1\Ir. SMITH. I think I shall have to object this afternoon. :Mr. SMITH. 1\fr. President, I llave been objecting to the The VICE PRESIDENT. Objection is made. resolution but I am going to leave the responsibility on the EXECUTIVE SESSION Henate a; to whether or not a committee appointed by tlle House and Senate for the simple purpose of receiving bids on 1\fr. CURTIS. I move that tlle Senate proceed to tbe con­ the plain question of managing or leRsing Muscle Shoals, shall sideration of executive business. he permitted to .expend $5,000 or -$10,000 to aid the committee The motion was agreed to, and the Senate proceeded to the in 1-1niving at what is a bid under that resolution. I have consideration of executive business. After five minutes spent ohjected, but I do not want to put myself in a position wllere in executiTe session the Senate (at 5 o'clock and 5 minutes p. m.), under the ord.er previously entered, took a recess unt~l it would seem that I was captious about the matte~. I do not to-morrow, ·wednesday, March 31, 1D26, at 12 o'clock meridian. think that such an ~xpend.iture is justifiable. I do not. beli~ve it is proper that we should appoint a committee to receive buls Rnd then be asked to make an appropriation to enable them to get CONFIRMATIONS other people to understand for them what a bid means, when Ea:couUve nominations confi1'1ned b11 the f:JC11.atc March 30 the resolution itself provides what the bid shall be. I do not (legislative day of March 21), 1!J26 see any reason whatever why we should spend any money for purposes outside of the clear expression of the resolution AssiS'l'ANT SoLICITOR TREASURY DEPART~r~T which was fought for so bitterly and passed. Harry K. Daugherty to be Assistant Solicitor. 1\fr. HEl!..,LIN. The committee has bad to have a clerk and PROMOTIONS IN THE ARMY we ha-ve also had to have a stenograpllic reporter. We are OFFICERS' RESERVE CORPS REAPPOINTM:E..."\"T havinO' certain statements tal{en d.own that we felt it was 11eces~ry to -preserve. As the bidders come before the com­ Hugh Samuel Johnson to be prigadier general, reser-ve. mittee we want to interrogate ti1em fully and we want to pre­ Townsend "'helen to be lieutenant colonel, Ordnance Depart- sene all statements they make so that there can be no ques­ ment. tion about what was said. If there arc provisions which we Cllarlcs Russell Insley to be major, Finance Department. think ought to be in tlle bid, we want to ask if they will not Montgomery Taft Legg to be major, Finance Department. put them 1n the bid, and we want to have a record of their James Asa Marmon to be major, Finance Department. reasons for granting or refusing our request so that we can Clarence Eugene Brand to be captain, Coast Artillery Corps. report to the Senate exuctly what was done. Leslie Eugene Bowman to be captain, Quartermaster Corps. Mr. SMITH. Mr. President, may I ask the Senator n ques­ Alonzo Patrick Fox to be captain, Infantry. tion? Hugh Joseph Gaffey to )Je captain, Field Artillery. Mr. ·HEFLIN. I yield to the Senator from South Caro­ Horace Benjamin Smith to be captain, Infantry. lina. APPOINTMENTS IN THE ARMY Mr. SMITH. ..Are we to accept the stcnograpllic report or John Allison Worrell, jr., to be first lieutenant, Medical Corps. are we to accept the bjd? Edwin Christian Sorensen to be first lieutenant, 1\Ied.ical Mr. HEFLIN. \Ve arc going t.o accept the bid, of course. Corps. Mr. SMI'TH. Let the bid speak for itself. We do not care Stuart Gross Smith to be first lieutenant, Medical Corps. wbat the people may ha-ve said; what we want to know is, what is the proper form of bid. The bid will speak for itself. .APPOINTMENTS DY TRANSFER IN THE .ARMY We do not have to accept it or reject it merely on the basis Oscar Alfred .Axelson to be first lieutenant, Corps of Engi­ of a stenographic report. Let the honest man or corporation neers. proposing to lease tbis property state in black and white what Frank Sayles Bowen to be lieutenant colonel, Field Artillery. is proposed to be done so that there will be no equivocation Albert Gilmor to be major, Coast Artillery Corps. about it. \Vhy should we hire men to take do\Yn stenographi­ PosTMASTERs cally e-verything they say? We are not going to pass on the ALABAMA. stenographic report; we are go1ng to pass on what they offer Leand.er Isbell, Albertville. in their bid. George Buck, 'l'homaston. Mr. HEFLIN. Docs not the Senator think it will be proper ,Y. for the Senate to know exactly what each bidder said dul'ing \ A.RKA~SAS the negotiations before the committee with references to his James H. Elkins, Blytheville. bid? . Edwin C. Wid.'ener, Delight. .l\1r. ·SMITH. I think it will be hcJpful to the Senate when Benjamin \-V . .Allen, Hamburg. we get the contract to know what it prnpo:::;ed to do a!ld what Id~ Burns, Heber Springs. 6584 OO~GR . ESSIOX AL RECOI-tD-IIOUSE 1\llA.HCI-I 30

Edward L. Hamilton, MeCrory. UTA II Jnmes F. Rieves, l\'Iariou. 'Yalter Canuon, St. George. Grace r. Stark, Marked Tree. · Johu F. Juste:-:eu, Spriug City. •Tohn Q. Skipper, • ·Iorrillton. Henry Bringman, Pine Bluff. WASHINGTON William 0. Hoberts, Sheridan. Leouierett L. Griflln, Aldrich. toke.ns of Thy vresc-nce bring peace and satisfaction to all our Hezekiah K. Harri , Blackwater. breasts. l\lay our labors be characterize(} by firmne s, strength, Oral G. Brown, Fair Play: and confidence, aud always with the deepest concern for our Hobert W. Wisemau, Maywood. country and good will to all. 'Ve pray in the name of llim who Edward Becker, Morrisville. is the way, the truth, and the life. Amen. Elsie A. Burch, Parnell. The Journal of the proceediugs of yesteruay wns read and :MONTANA nvvroved. Leontine l\L Turco, Absarokee. CltA 'YFORD ,Y. LONG, M. D. James N. Starbuck, Valier. l\lr. BRAND of Georgia. l\Ir. Speaker, I ask unanimous con- NF..DRASKA sent to proeeed for two minutes. Lillian M. Longan, Bartley. The SPEAKER. Is there objectiou? Frauds E. Da·ds, Homer. 'l'here was no objection. Euward A. 'Yalker, Stuart. l\lr. BRAJ\TD of Georgia. l\Ir. Speaker, I rise to call the NEVAD..\ attention of the mcmbcr~hip of the House to the fact that tlli~ Lucy A. Gates, Eureka. afternoon at 3 o'clock in :::;tatuary Hall will occul' the cere­ NEW HAMPSHIRE mony of the un\eiliug of a life-sized statue of Dr. Crawford W. Long, of the State of Georgia. The State of Georgia con­ Fred T. Wilson, Alton Bny. tends, nnd it is generally recognizeu throughout the world, Enoch F. Stevens, Raymond. tllat Doctor Long wns the original discoverer of the uRe of Anna M. Rolfe, Salem Depot. ether ns an anesthetic in surgery. He was born in l\Iadison NEW MEXICO County, Ga., and thereafter for many years resided in Jack­ Elizabeth A. Gumm, Carrizozo. son County in the snme State in wllich county on l\Iarch 30, 1842, he verformeille. bers wl10 cau be present at the ceremonies. Harrison l\1. Russell, Staatsburg. Percy Burr, 'Ve t Ha•erstraw. ENROLLED niLLS PRESENTED TO THE PRESIDENT FOR HIS APPllOYAL Albert Yan E~ endelft, 'Vest Sayville. Mr. C.Al\IPBELL, from the Committee on Enrolled Bills, re­ )Iortimer F. l\IcK"eel, Yorktown Heights. ported that thit; day they had vresented to the President of NORTH C.AROLIN A tlle United States, for his appro•al, the fo1lowiug bills: William E. Linney, 'Yilkesooro. H. R. 2830. A:a.1. act to l0galize a wharf am1 mariue railway OHIO owned by George Peppler iu l!"'inneys Creek, at Wachapreague, Accomac County, Ya.; and Cllarles A. Ridgley, Chesterhill. H. H. 7732. An act nruendinp: act of l\Iarch 4, 102!"5, for the re­ Uosa hl. Fouts, 1\lc:Connellsville. li(·f of employees of the Bethlehem Steel Uo., Bethlehem, Pa. PEN!'ISYLVANIA ORUER OF DUSINESS Arthur A. Butz, Alburtis. Mr. HO.WARD. l\lr. flpeake.r, I ask unanimous con~ent to SOUTH CAROLINA speak to the Hout;e for five minutes. John W. Hanna, Cross Hill. The SPEAKER. 'l'hc gentleman from Nebraska aEks unani­ Mason C. Stroud, Great Falls. mous conseut to address the House for five minutes. Is there \\illiam B. Gross, Holly Hill. objection? TEXAS Mr. TILSON. l\lr. Speaker, is the gentleman willing to say Gerhard Dube, Bishop. on what subject? Lee K. :McKewen, Huntington. Mr. HOWARD. Yes. I want to resent an imputation cast l\Iartlla A. Luccock, Keeue. upon the two Senntors representing my State in the Congre:;s John E. Clarke, Knox City. of the Nation. A foul charge has been laiU against them. G. Lafayette Hardcastle, Lexington. l\Ir. RANKIN. By whom? Lee Gray, 1\fabank. Mr. HOW AnD. On the floo~ of this House.