Proceedings of Meeting No. 2 of the SPECIAL Dldustrial RECOVERY BOARD Held at the Secretary. S Office, *5854 the Department of C
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Proceedings of Meeting No . 2 of the SPECIAL DlDUSTRIAL RECOVERY BOARD Held at The Secretary. s Office, *5854 The Department of Commerce June 26, 1933 Distribution of copies: 1. Hon. Fr'unklin D. Roosevelt 2. Han. Daniel C. Roper, Chairman 3. Hon. Homer S. Cummings 4. Hon. Harold L. Ickes 5. Han. Henry A. Wallace 6. Han. Frances Perkins 7. Hon. Charles H. March 8. Hon. Lewis W. Douglas 9. Hon. Hugh S. Johnson, Administrator of Industrial Control Act 10. Hon. Harold l!!. Stephens 11. Hon. Rex Tugwell 12. Hon. Turner Battle 13. Han. John Dickinson, Executive Secretary 14. Col. Louis McHenry Howe 15. Hon. Marvin H. McIntyre 16. Mr. E. W. Jensen, Assistant Secretary 17. File SPEC IAL INDUSTRIAL RECOV~Y BOARD Members: Han. Daniel C. Roper, Chairman The Secretary of Commerce Han. H0mer S. Cummings The Attorney General Han. Harold L. Ickes The Secretary of the Int er ior Han. Henry A. Wallace The Secretary of Agriculture Han. Frances Perkins, The Secretary of Labor Han. Charles H. March Chairman, The Federal Trade Commission Han. Lewis Dougl as The Director of the Budget Han. Hugh S. Johnson Administrator of the Industrial Control Act -------- Hon. Jolm Dickinson, Executive ~ecretary ATTENDANCE AT SECOND MEETING June 26, 1933 Hon. Daniel C. Roper, Chairman, Secretary of Commerce Han. Homer S. Cummings, Attorney-General Han . Harold L. Ickes, Secretary of the Interior Han. Rex Tugwell, Assistant Secretary of Agriculture Representing the Secretary of Agriculture Han . Frances Perkins, Secretary of Labor Han. Charles H. March, Chairman Federal Trade Commission Hon. Lewis W. Douglas, Director of the Budget Han. Hugh S. Johnson, Administrator of the Industrial Control Act Hon. Harold M. Stephens, Assistant Attorney-General Hon . Turner Battle, Assistant Secretary of Labor Hon. John Dickinson, Executive Secretary Mr. E. W. Jensen, ASsistant Secretary Dr. Alexander Sachs -36- I N D E X (Second VJ eoting) Paragraph ACTIONS OF SPECIAL IlIDUSTHIAL RECOVEllY BOAllD . To employ reporter". • • • . " " " " " " • 2 - 2- 6 That Department of Commerce a c t as dis bursing and personnel or ganization. · . 5 1 Ty ing in of statistical work with other departments " • " " " " " " " " " " • 5 5- 6 6 That lir. Frank '.alker be notified of the consensus of opinion of the Board as to maximum salary. " 0 " " " " 13 3 Transfer of two cars and chauffeurs to He00v ery Administration •• • • • • • 15 5 ADlmIISTl1ATO!, JJ~ lJ b.SSISTAJi'£S . Automobile s "_nd chauffeurs to be transferred to. • • · . 14 8 - 15 5 AGENDA, '"lar k expedJ. ted by following • • • • • • • • 1 2 AGllICULTURE . l1ela tions of Recovery " dministra- tion to Department of • • • • • • • • 27 5- 9 ALLOTm;JT T of funds required by Treasury lJepa rt- 4 8 ment " " " " " " " " . " " " " " " " " • • ATT EIlD1Il[Ce AT j,lEETIHGS. Promptness urged in · . 1 1 SECOND llE ETING, • • • • • • · . C AUTOJ IOl:lILES , Two, to be t ransferred, wit h chauffeurs, to Administr ator and Assist- 14 8- a.nts ,," " " " " " " " " .. " " " " CI " " " · . 15 8 BULLETIH NO.2. Protests concerning •• • • 2 7- BULLEl'I1IS, Use of, instead of regulations • • • 21 1 CENSUS BUREAU has list of concerns enga ged in every line of business • 26 5 CIll:l.SE jI STh'HART " " " " " " " 17 6- 8 CI,,\SSIi'ICAnOl1 ACT not satisfactory as basis for salary scale " " ~ " " " " " " " " " · . 13 6 -37 ... Pa!!;~ Para!!;raph CODE OF rAIn COW'ETITION, Su!!;!!;ested re!!;u lations for public notice of hearin!!;s on • • . g • • • . • • • 19 1- CODES, 1!ust provide for a technique of approval of. • • • • • 3 2 CODES 01' PHAC1'ICE • • • 32 2 COLLl:C1'IVE BARGAINUJG • • • • • • • 3 2 COHS1' ITUTIONALITY of procedure may be attacked unless properly founded •••• " 26 3 CONSUl<lI':RS' ADVISORY BOARD, Membership of ••••• 16 4- 17 13 Members not to be paid salary. • • • • 17 2 COST ACCOU1'TIIlG • • • • • Q . • • 31 5 CRITICISlH of salaries, Safeguarding a!!;ainst • 10 3 12 6 CZAR desired by oil industry. • • • • • • • 28 2, 10 I':ng ineer or geologist not barred from being . 0 .. • • ~ . •••• • 29 6 DEPUTY J.D1lIHISTHATOn.S must be industrial adepts and leaders. • . •• • ...... • • 8 7 Su!!;gested as persons to receive maximum salary. •• 0 • • • • · . 13 2 DISDUHSE1~EN11S • • • • • 4 1- 5 3 To be made through an existing agency. • • 4 8 DISTRIBUTION of copies of minutes • • • • • • A DRIVE, Prospective, similar to Liberty Loan Campa.ign. • .. • • o. ••••• • 0 · . 15 10- 16 1 EXCE1'nON3 TO SALiL'lY SCALE to require approv- al of Board • • . • • • '" • • 0 0 • • • • 11 6-7 i7AVOIUTIS1K, Possibility for criticism of, to be guarded against. • • • • • . • · . 10 3- 12 6 GEOLOGIS'f or ElIGINEER not to be barred as administrator of oil industry • • • • . 29 6-9 IL!:/JnNG ~ FIHSrr ~ Importance of • • 0 • • 0 • • • 0 • • 21 4 26 1 Procedure to be ~o llowed in. .0. • • 21 2- 26 3 No precedent for • • 0 • • • 0 • • • • • 0 • 22 5 Public debate between members o~ advis- ory boards to be avoided 8.t •••••• 26 3 Industrial Advisory Board, Labor Advis ory Boa.rd, Consumers t Advisory Board, to attend • • • 22 8 He!;otiations to be avoided at. • • • 24 1 I NDUSTHIAL RECOVEJ<Y ACT temporary err.erl5ency l egisJ.ation • • . .• •• • 9 1 LEGAL AT'rACKS. Protection against • • 21 2 26 3 illT1'ER from J1(d ge Stephens to Mr. Dickinson 0 • • 20!l. LIS1' of all c 0n~8,.ns engaged in every line o~ business in possession of Bureau o~ Census o • • 0 0 • • • • • · . 26 5 !liAXI MUM SALARIES. • • • • • • • • 8 1- 14 6 MAYl'LOHER HOTEL, Meeting in • • • • • • • • • • 7 1 l.lEETINGS. l~o re frequent and longer. desired • • • 35 3 j"lElJIBJ.:l/S m' BOARD . • • B MEMORANDUM ~rom three Chicago men • 29 11- 35 2 NINUTES. Cor rection of. • • • • 1 3, 5 Distribution of copies of • • A NEGO'l'IA'fIOIl to be avoided at hearings • • • 24 1 OIL IlIDUSTRY. Problem o~. • • • • • • • • 27 lI 29 n - 39- Pa ge l'a ragraph PROCEDURE for public hearings .. .... ... 17 14- 26 3 PUBLIC HEAliIllGS , Procedure for. • • • • • • • • • 17 14- 26 3 Suggested regulations for .. • ••. " • IS 1- 26 3 PUBLIC REL.TrOlIS (Publicity) Director of • • · . 15 9 R}JGULATIOllS suggested for public notice of hearings on Codes of 2air Comp e tition. · . 19 1- 22 5 To save Administrator from clog of unnecessary legal ma chinery • • • 5 0 • • 18 1 Letter re, from Judge Stephens to l!r. Dickinsono • 0 0 co " . • • • 20A l'lexibili ty of. desirable • • • • 21 1 n EPOl ~ T gRs gmp J.oyment of . • 0 • " .. 2 2- 6 RIC IlmmG, DOi TALll j Genera l Counsel, exception to salary s caleo • • • • " • • " • " • • 9 1 12 1 SA?i,GUARDIHG AGAIIlST CIUTICISM. • • • • • • • • • 10 3 12 6 SALAH I1~S » SOD.Ie ofo " • ,,'. " · . 6 7 I mportance of uniformity in ••• • • • • 6 7- 7 7 Exceptions to maximum. • • • • " • • • • . • 8 7 9 - 12 Cri tici sm of, to b e guarded e. ga i nst. • . • • 10 3- 12 6 Exceptional, to r equire approval of Board " 0 • • • • • • H 6- 7 11"11 exible sca le of" • • • · . 9 1 10 2 10 5 13 9- 14 6 w40- Page Para~aph SPECIAL COmISEL. Appointment of. as , exceptions to salary scale sugge stGd •••• • • 11 1-4 STATISTICAL HOlCK to 'be tied in with the departments • .. • • 0 .. • • • • • • • 0 • 0 • 6 5- 6 6 STA'l'ISTIUS. Technique i.n the field of col- l eotion of I> " • . • • . .. 6 1 1'0 be preserved in the permanent structure of the Government. • 6 1 SUGAR PHOBLl<:r.q of gree.t importance. • • 28 13, 17 TECIllH QUE of approval of codes should be provided .. • .. .. • .. • , . 3 2 In field of collection of statistics. • • 6 1 VEHBA1'IM m ;;POHT or MINlJTES DESIRED • • • • . 2 1-6 WAG)':::;. Te;nporary api,roval of ,.e-employment 35 3 VIALJam. Neetine; it: HaJflower Hotel with " .. .. .. .. .. .. ... .. I> .. .. ~ 7 1 Hequested by President t o study ques- ti on of sala.ry scale.. .. .. .. • • .. '" .. .. 12 4 Resolution to be sent to, >vith refer- enoe to suggested ma..-..cimUIn sal ary .. .. .... 13 3- 14 6 -- -000--- Proceedings of the Second Meeting of the SPECI.AL INDUSTRIAL EECOVERY BOARD June 26, 1933. CHAIRMAU ROPER: In order to expedi.te our Vlork as much as possible, I hop'il we can come promptly to the meetings. It is now ten minutes late. As a rule, we will have the other room for you, but it happens ti1a tit is occupied now by a meeting of the Advisory Committee and Planning Committee fo, the Department of Commerce, and we do not wish to disturb them. I thiruc we can expedite our work by following a definite agenda, and the first item that has been jotted down here is the approval of the minutes. Copies of the minutes have been furnished, I under stand, to each member of the Board, and the Chair is ready to hear any amendments to the minutes if they are not correct. MR. DICKINSON: In that connection, Mr. Chairman, I have a notation here that in one o~ two places the minutes spealc of the National Industripl Recowery Board instead of the Special Industrial Recovery Board. C1IA.IRMA.N ROPER: That has been noted for correction. ASSISTAUT ATTORlBY GEHE:aAL STEPHEN'S: On page 27, the first paragraph, there is a reference to a suggestion I made at the last meeting that for your protection suill, action as you 11ave to . talee in certain matters should be ratified at a subsequent meeting. I think the stenographer misprinted it as referring to General Jcl~son. MR. DICKINSON: That should be taken up with Mr. Jensen. -2- GENERAL JOHNSON: Thel'e is a good deal of paraphrasing, instead of verbatim statement. Is it impossible to have the minutes verbatim? MR. DICKINSON: ,Tl1at raises a point that We mi@1t just as well take up ri@1t now. I think toda;y-, throU@1 Mr.