Minutes of Proceedings National Assembly

Tuesday, 1 December 2020] 191

No 48 – 2020] SECOND SESSION, SIXTH PARLIAMENT

REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA ______

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ______

TUESDAY, 1 DECEMBER 2020

1. The House met at 10:01.

2. The Deputy Speaker took the Chair and requested members to observe a moment of silence for prayer or meditation.

3. [10:02] The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the House notwithstanding Rule 47(1), which provides for the sequence of proceedings, resolves that Orders No 1 to 15 be taken before the ministerial statement today.

Motion agreed to.

4. FIRST ORDER [10:04]

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Trade and Industry (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 20 November 2020, p 47).

There was no debate.

The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Report be adopted.

Declarations of vote made on behalf of the Democratic Alliance, Economic Freedom Fighters, Inkatha Freedom Party, Freedom Front Plus, African Christian Democratic Party, National Freedom Party, African Independent Congress, Al Jama’ ah and African National Congress.

Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters, Democratic Alliance and Freedom Front Plus dissenting).

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Report accordingly adopted.

5. SECOND ORDER [10:26]

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Small Business Development (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 20 November 2020, p 8).

There was no debate.

The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Report be adopted.

Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters, Freedom Front Plus, African Christian Democratic Party and Democratic Alliance dissenting).

Report accordingly adopted.

6. THIRD ORDER [10:44]

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 24 November 2020, p 5).

There was no debate.

The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Report be adopted.

Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters, Freedom Front Plus, African Christian Democratic Party and Democratic Alliance dissenting).

Report accordingly adopted.

7. FOURTH TO SIXTH ORDERS [11:01]

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Public Service and Administration on Statistics South Africa (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 230).

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Public Service and Administration on Department of Planning, Monitoring and Evaluation and Brand

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South Africa (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 214).

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Public Service and Administration on Department of Public Service and Administration, Public Service Commission, National School of Government and Centre for Public Service Innovation (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 183). There was no debate.

The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Reports be adopted.

Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters, Freedom Front Plus and Democratic Alliance dissenting).

Report on Statistics South Africa accordingly adopted.

Report on Department of Planning, Monitoring and Evaluation and Brand South Africa accordingly adopted.

Report on Department of Public Service and Administration, Public Service Commission, National School of Government and Centre for Public Service Innovation accordingly adopted.

8. SEVENTH AND EIGHTH ORDERS [11:17]

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Police on South African Police Services performance for 2019/2020 financial year (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 139).

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Police on Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority performance for 2019/2020 financial year (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 126).

There was no debate.

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Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters, African Christian Democratic Party and Democratic Alliance dissenting).

Report on South African Police Services performance for 2019/2020 financial year accordingly adopted.

Report on Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority performance for 2019/2020 financial year accordingly adopted.

9. NINTH AND TENTH ORDERS [11:37]

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Police on Independent Police Investigative Directorate performance for 2019/2020 financial year (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 101).

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Police on Civilian Secretariat for Police Services performance for 2019/2020 financial year (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 84).

There was no debate.

The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Reports be adopted.

Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters dissenting).

Report on Independent Police Investigative Directorate performance for 2019/2020 financial year accordingly adopted.

Report on Civilian Secretariat for Police Services performance for 2019/2020 financial year accordingly adopted.

10. ELEVENTH ORDER [11:55]

Consideration of Budgetary Review and Recommendation Report of Portfolio Committee on Basic Education on Performance of Department of Basic Education for 2019/20 financial year (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 25 November 2020, p 17).

There was no debate.

The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Report be adopted.

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Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters, Freedom Front Plus, African Christian Democratic Party and Democratic Alliance dissenting).

Report accordingly adopted.

11. TWELFTH ORDER [12:15]

Decision of Question on Report of Portfolio Committee on Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs on Petition pertaining to role of religious community in Covid-19 crisis (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 21 October 2020, p 30).

There was no debate.

Question put: That the Report be adopted.

Report accordingly adopted (Economic Freedom Fighters dissenting).

12. THIRTEENTH ORDER [12:16]

Decision of Question on Report of Portfolio Committee on Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs on Petition pertaining to lack of service delivery in Ward 52, under City of Ethekwini (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 21 October 2020, p 34).

There was no debate.

Question put: That the Report be adopted.

Report accordingly adopted (Economic Freedom Fighters dissenting).

13. FOURTEENTH ORDER [12:17]

Decision of Question on Report of Portfolio Committee on Transport on Oversight visit to assess state of readiness of various modes of transport and their attendant facilities in line with implementation of Level 3 Regulations of Covid-19 Lockdown (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 27 August 2020, p 3).

There was no debate.

Question put: That the Report be adopted.

Report accordingly adopted (Economic Freedom Fighters dissenting).

14. FIFTEENTH ORDER [12:18]

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Decision of Question on Report of Portfolio Committee on Communications on 2020/21 first quarter performance and expenditure report of Department of Communications and Digital Technologies (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 8 October 2020, p 2).

There was no debate.

Question put: That the Report be adopted.

Report accordingly adopted (Economic Freedom Fighters dissenting).

BUSINESS SUSPENDED AT 12:19 AND RESUMED AT 14:01.

15. [14:02] The Minister of Transport made a statement on Festive Season Safety Plan.

Debated concluded.

16. SIXTEENTH ORDER [14:59]

Consideration of Report of Portfolio Committee on Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development on Upgrading of Land Tenure Rights Amendment Bill [B 6 - 2020] (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 3 November 2020, p 10).

There was no debate.

The Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Report be adopted.

Motion agreed to.

Report accordingly adopted.

17. SEVENTEENTH ORDER [15:00]

Second Reading debate – Upgrading of Land Tenure Rights Amendment Bill [B 6B - 2020] (National Assembly – sec 76).

[15:29] Mr N M Paulsen having disregarded the authority of the Chair was ordered by House Chairperson Ms M G Boroto to withdraw from the virtual platform for the remainder of the day’s sitting.

The member was thereupon withdrawn from the sitting.

Debate concluded.

Question put: That the Bill be read a second time.

Division demanded.

The House divided.

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House Chairperson Ms M G Boroto announced that, the Speaker had determined that, in accordance with the Rules, a manual voting procedure would be used and that the whips would conduct a headcount of members in the chamber and on the virtual platform for the purpose of ascertaining quorum and voting.

A quorum being present in terms of Rule 98(1), voting commenced.

AYES – 207: (ANC – 189; IFP – 11; ATM – 1; Good – 1; NFP – 2; AIC – 1; Cope – 1; Al Jama’ ah - 1).

NOES – 100: (DA - 56; EFF – 30; FF Plus – 10; ACDP – 3; UDM – 1).

Question agreed to.

Bill accordingly read a second time.

18. [16:28] The House, at the request of Ms Z Majozi, discussed the following as a matter of urgent national public importance in terms of Rule 130: The escalating crisis at the SABC and the implications thereof for the institution’s mandate as a public broadcaster.

[16:51] The Deputy Minister of Human Settlement, Water and Sanitation, Ms P Tshwete, having disregarded the authority of the Chair was ordered by House Chairperson Mr C T Frolick to withdraw from the virtual platform for the remainder of the day’s sitting.

The member was thereupon withdrawn from the sitting.

[16:53] Ms S M Mokgotho having disregarded the authority of the Chair was ordered by House Chairperson Mr C T Frolick to withdraw from the virtual platform for the remainder of the day’s sitting.

The member was thereupon withdrawn from the sitting.

[17:34] Mr I S Seitlholo having disregarded the authority of the Chair was ordered by House Chairperson Mr C T Frolick to withdraw from the virtual platform for the remainder of the day’s sitting.

The member was thereupon withdrawn from the sitting.

Debate concluded.

19. NINETEENTH ORDER [18:05]

Consideration of Report of Standing Committee on Public Accounts on 2018/19 Annual Report, Annual Financial Statements and Oversight of South African Broadcasting Corporation (SABC) (Announcements, Tablings and Committee Reports, 26 November 2020, p 198).

Mr M Hlengwa, as Chairperson of the Committee, introduced the Report.

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There was no debate.

The Chief whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Report be adopted.

Motion agreed to (Economic Freedom Fighters, Freedom Front Plus, African Christian Democratic Party and Democratic Alliance dissenting).

Report accordingly adopted.

20. The House adjourned at 18:35.

P N TYAWA Acting Secretary to Parliament

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