Today’s News Clips Nov. 5, 2019

Chicago Sun-Times

Robin Lehner’s honesty is delightful, but his goaltending is even better

Ben Pope Nov. 4, 2019

SAN JOSE, Calif. — Just a month into the Blackhawks’ season, eye-opening, tell-it-like-it-is quotes from goalie Robin Lehner have become a nightly occurrence.

After the victory Sunday against the Ducks, in which Lehner delivered another spectacular performance (36 saves on 38 shots) that raised his save percentage to .939, he spoke candidly again.

Asked how his percentage, third-best in the league entering Monday, is even higher behind such a porous Hawks defense than it was last season with the stout Islanders, Lehner provided the answer — even though it threw two teams partially under the bus.

“People talk a lot about last year, but I played for arguably the worst defensive team in the league for three years in Buffalo, so it’s nothing new,” the 28-year-old said. “And I put up good numbers there no matter what anyone says. But, again, I’m four years older, the read in my game is better [now].”

Constantly dressed in an oversized hoodie and lounging deep in his locker seat, providing his insights and opinions on not only his play but the play of every other unit on the team, Lehner follows none of the typical expectations for an uptight, professional NHL player.

It’s a thoroughly refreshing approach within a locker room that has bordered on depressing during this rough start.

And he can get away with it because he has been unquestionably the Hawks’ most valuable player.

In terms of point shares, a holistic stat created by Hockey Reference that attempts to quantify the points in the standings a player has earned for his team, Lehner’s 2.3 more than doubles Patrick Kane’s 1.0 for the team lead. The Hawks’ 4-6-3 record is bad, but it would be much worse if not for Lehner, and coach Jeremy Colliton and Jonathan Toews often have said as much.

In fact, when measured by point shares per game, Lehner is the third-most valuable player in the NHL, trailing only the Bruins’ David Pastrnak and Tuukka Rask. He has been that good.

In particular, Lehner has been excellent on the kill throughout his career, even before his Vezina Trophy campaign last season launched him into stardom. Lehner explained that thoughtfully Sunday, too.

“I play quite differently than other goalies on the penalty kill,” he said. “I don’t move much, I try to stand in the middle of my net and do a lot of pre-scout and see who’s going to shoot. The ‘D’ and I are on the same page, I get to see shots, and when I don’t see them, I know what coverage they have.”

This is no “just play my game” caliber of analysis. Lehner’s intelligence is obvious on and off the ice.

He understands that the team he has kept afloat has glaring weaknesses.

But he also believes in the team, as he outlined in a memorable, heartfelt speech after a loss to the Golden Knights several weeks ago. And together, Lehner and the defense proved Sunday that a strange sort of coordinated chaos might be effective.

Just let Lehner explain.

“There’s scrambles in the game [when] you’ve just got to try to do something,” he said. “But I think we did a good job scrambling together when it was scramble mode. [The] ‘D’ played real hard and helped me out, and we stuck in there together, so that was good.”

The Daily Herald How living with a Blackhawks goalie and his family helps Nylander thrive

John Dietz Nov. 4, 2019

It was nearly a decade ago, but goalie Robin Lehner still remembers what it's like for a young pro who is trying to impress new teammates in an unfamiliar city.

The hardest part was actually away from the rink.

Alone in a cheerless hotel room, it's easy to get bored.

Or to brood over a poor practice or game.

Or to get frustrated and depressed, and lose track of your priorities.

So when Blackhawks training camp rolled around, Lehner thought, why not extend an invitation to Alex Nylander to move in with his wife and two children?

Nylander accepted and it seems to be paying dividends for both the 21-year-old forward and the Hawks.

"When I came into the league, older guys helped me out," said Lehner, who was drafted at age 18 by Ottawa in 2009. "My first two, three years in the league I stayed in hotels probably close to nine, 10 months. It's not good. ...

"I've been around a little bit now through the ups and downs. (Better to) kind of calm things down than to go back to your hotel room and ruminate on frustrations. It's nice to share experiences and calm him down after maybe a (rough) game."

Lessons learned

After the Sabres drafted Nylander eighth overall in 2016, they elected to assign him to their AHL team in Rochester rather than give him another year in juniors.

Nylander still isn't sure which decision was the right one.

"I made the decision with the staff in Buffalo and my agent and my dad," Nylander said. "They said it was probably best to play my first year in the AHL.

"It's a different league than I was used to playing back in Sweden or in juniors. It was just a good learning experience for me. ... Guys are bigger and stronger; just had to get used to that kind of stuff when I was only 18."

After a second season in the AHL -- one in which he scored 8 goals in 51 games -- Nylander had an impressive training camp and preseason with Buffalo last fall.

But he was again demoted.

Nylander played 49 games in the AHL and 12 for Buffalo in 2018-19. It was beginning to look like he'd be labeled a bust, but Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman saw enough that he decided to acquire Nylander in exchange for defenseman Henri Jokiharju.

Considering the promise Jokiharju showed last season, the trade was -- and still is -- viewed as highly controversial by some.

After a slow start with the Blackhawks, however, there's little doubt that Nylander is beginning to find his stride.

"It happens every year -- players get put in a bad spot in different organizations, and they need a change of scenery so they can get the chances that they need to thrive," said Lehner, who got to know Nylander when he was the Sabres' goalie from 2016-18. "He wasn't given the chance to thrive in Buffalo."

His second chance

Under Jeremy Colliton, the chance to thrive came immediately.

Paired with Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane in the season opener, it took Nylander just seven minutes and 44 seconds to score his first with the Hawks. Using his blazing speed, Nylander motored through the neutral zone, settled the puck down once he reached the offensive zone and wristed a shot that beat Flyers goalie Carter Hart to the glove side.

After a rough game against San Jose in the home opener, Colliton elected to scratch Nylander two nights later against Winnipeg.

The young forward's response after that? All he did was come back and score a key third-period goal against Edmonton in a 3-1 victory at the United Center.

Since then, Nylander has added 5 assists, including a highlight-reel one against the Kings Oct. 27 where he lost his balance near the crease, yet managed to slide the puck to a charging David Kampf.

"It was kind of my plan to fake that I was going to shoot it and then pass it," Nylander said. "But as I fell, I was like, 'Oh, I've got to pass this quick before I'm not able to get it through.'"

Nylander credits Toews, Kane and the coaching staff for getting him to realize the kind of hockey player he could become.

He then paused and gave a stick tap to Lehner. And the thing about the Blackhawks' goalie is he's not going to sugarcoat everything.

If Nylander's not hustling or playing smart without the puck, Lehner's going to let him know about it.

"He has a lot of offensive talent, but it's the other part of the game that he needs to get better on," Lehner said. "Which I think he has. Just doing the small things right; playing defense right.

"Just like any young player coming into the league, have a consistency level. ... That's what secures spots in this league.

Said Jeremy Colliton after the Hawks' 5-1 victory over the Kings: "I don't know how many games (in a row) it's been, but I feel quite comfortable with him on the ice. ... When a guy as talented as he is wants to work, he's going to be a pretty good player. I think that's the case right now."

Learning to fly

As the campaign unfolds, Nylander will no doubt experience plenty of highs and lows.

Navigating them, however, will be much easier thanks to his living arrangement. After each game and practice, Nylander gets to walk into a true home -- one that is filled with laughter and love.

Both of Lehner's kids' birthdays came at the end of October, with Lennox turning 5 and sister Zoe turning 2. Nylander, being a good member of his newly adopted family, purchased gifts for both of them.

He said Lennox's was video game related but wouldn't divulge exactly what it was.

"He's great with my kids," Lehner said. "My son loves Fortnite and Alex loves Fortnite too. So they get to play together. ... My son likes him more than he likes me right now."

As for when Nylander's lease is up?

Well, it sounds like that may not be for quite a while.

"He can stay as long as he wants," Lehner said. "He's still fighting for a spot. ...

"We'll see what happens. We'll see when I think the wings have grown out enough and he's ready to move on."

Blackhawks.com PROSPECTS: Sikura Hat Trick Leads IceHogs in Comeback

Monterey Pepper Nov. 4, 2019

1st Star: Dylan Sikura (AHL)

The Line: 2GP, 6G, 1A

Sikura netted a hat trick in the third period during Sunday night's game to help Rockford come back from a 3-0 deficit to beat the Chicago Wolves 7-4. The 24-year-old also tallied an assist on the IceHogs first goal of the game. The winger is currently leading the team in points (9) and goals (6).

2nd Star: Matthew Highmore (AHL)

The Line: 3GP, 1G, 4A

Highmore is currently riding a three-game point streak, tallying two assists in each contest on Wednesday and Sunday. The winger also scored the game-winner in overtime in Saturday night's game to defeat the , 3-2. His four assists this week put the 23-year-old in the team lead for assists with five total.

3rd Star: Adam Boqvist (NHL/AHL)

The Line: 1GP, 1G, 1A (AHL only)

It's been a big week for Boqvist. The defenseman scored his first goal as a pro on Wednesday with the IceHogs before getting the call up to the big league. After making his NHL debut on Saturday, the Swede notched his first NHL goal to open up the scoring against the Anaheim Ducks on Sunday in a 3-2 overtime victory.

Around the System: - is currently sitting second in goals for the Rockford IceHogs with five total tallies. The winger is currently on a three-game point streak and scored his fifth goal in as many games on Saturday, sending the game into overtime and earning second star of the game honors.

-Rockford's , Reese Johnson and Mackenzie Entwistle have each tallied two goals and one assists in their last three games played.

-Lucas Carlsson is on a two-game point streak for the IceHogs, notching a goal and an assist in his last two games. Rockford winger Brandon Hagel scored his first pro goal on Sunday as well as getting the assist on Boqvist's first pro goal on Wednesday.

Blackhawks.com

PREVIEW: Blackhawks at Sharks - Nov. 5, 2019

Carter Baum Nov. 5, 2019

TIME: 9 p.m. CT TV: NBCSCH+ RADIO: WGN Radio 720 STREAM: NHL.TV & MyTeamsApp

Chicago wraps up a four-game road trip on Tuesday night in the Bay Area, meeting the for the second time this season and the first at the SAP Center.

TEAM RECORDS CHI: 4-6-3, 11 PTS (6th in Central) SJS: 4-10-1, 9 PTS (8th in Pacific)

LAST TIME OUT Chicago picked up its first road win of the year with an overtime victory against the Anaheim Ducks on Sunday night. Patrick Kane assisted on the second goal and notched the game-winner in the extra frame to pad his lead as the team's top scorer with 12 points (4G, 8A).

San Jose dropped a 5-2 loss to Vancouver at home on Saturday night, the third stright regulation loss at home and fifth stright loss overall for the Sharks. Evander Kane scored his team-leading eighth goal of the season and defenseman Brent Burns added an assist to continue his team lead in points with 14 (3G, 11A).

The two teams met nearly three weeks ago as the Sharks fought back from four consecutive one-goal deficits before Barclay Goodrow scored early in the third for the 5-4 win. Patrick Marleau led the way with two goals in his season debut, while Andrew Shaw found the net twice for the Blackhawks and Dominik Kubalik scored his first NHL goal.

CALIFORNIA TRIPLE

With their first road win of the season on Sunday night and three of a possible four points in a two-game Southern California stop, the Blackhawks are looking to tie a season-high three-game point streak tonight in San Jose.

This trip is the first time since Nov. 2016 that Chicago has netted more than two points in a three-game California swing, picking up just one win in each of the last two complete trips through The Golden State over the last two seasons. In that 2016 trip, Chicago won in San Jose before an overtime win in Anaheim and an overtime loss in Los Angeles - with matching results in the latter two cities this time around.

San Jose Mercury News Losing streak reaches five games for lifeless Sharks

Curtis Pashelka Nov. 2, 2019

SAN JOSE — For anyone who thought the low point of the Sharks’ season came toward the end of their five-game road trip earlier this week, think again.

After another debacle Saturday night, no one can say for sure when this thing is going to bottom out.

The Sharks never gave themselves a chance against the , allowing two goals in the first period and two more in the second in a 5-2 loss at SAP Center, their fifth straight over the last nine days.

The Sharks managed just nine even strength shots on goal through the first two periods, as the Canucks pounced on a handful of the host team’s mistakes for their first win in San Jose since March 31, 2016.

Marc-Edouard Vlasic, while shorthanded, scored the Sharks’ first goal at the 10:51 mark of the third period, and Evander Kane scored with 22 seconds left in regulation time.

Goalie Aaron Dell, making his first start since the Sharks lost 5-2 in Ottawa to the Senators last Sunday, finished with 23 saves on 28 shots.

Brandon Sutter and Elias Pettersson scored in the first period and Jake Virtanen and scored in the second for the Canucks (9-3-2), who remained in second place in the Pacific Division, 11 points ahead of the Sharks (4- 10-1).

“Everyone’s looking in the mirror,” Sharks Logan Couture said. “There’s no blame game going in in the room at all. Everyone looking at their own game. Individually, we all need to be better. Once that happens, I think as a team, we’ll play better.”

The last time the Sharks had a losing streak this long came late last season, when they went 0-6-1 from March 14-28.

At that time, though, the Sharks were already comfortably in a playoff spot and were just playing for position. Even though this season is only a month old, the Sharks are already nine points out of the second wild card spot in the Western Conference..

The Sharks once again allowed the first goal, the league-worst 11th time it’s happened in 15 games this year, as Sutter took advantage of some shaky puck handling by Dell and some shoddy defensive coverage overall.

Dell took control of the puck near his net and casually passed it up the middle, presumably trying to find Logan Couture.

The pass was off target, setting in motion a wild sequence that ended with a shot on net by Josh Leivo. Dell made the first save, but gave up a fat rebound that Sutter took, stick-handled to his left and backhanded it in at the 4:17 mark of the first period.

Pettersson gave the Canucks a 2-0 lead at the 12:46 mark of the first, batting a bouncing puck past Dell for his fifth of the season.

“You can’t play from behind every night in this league and expect to win,” Sharks coach Pete DeBoer said. “It’s just been way too many nights. Some of it is self-inflicted. Deller tried to overplay the puck, the puck stays in the zone and it ends up in the net 20 seconds later on maybe their first chance of the game. and that’s what happens.

“Your reaction to it, which is always critical, it’s tough because it’s happened too many times.”

The back-breaker for the Sharks, though, came early in the second period.

Alex Edler sprung Virtanen on a breakaway with a pass up the middle through the neutral zone. Virtanen’s shot got through Dell, with the puck getting behind him and crossing the goal line before Dell kicked it back over. After a lengthy review, the goal was confirmed and the Sharks were down 3-0.

The Sharks have not held a lead in any game since they were up 1-0 on the Toronto Maple Leafs until late in the second period. Jake Muzzin then with three seconds left in the second period, and the Leafs scored three goals in the third for a 4-1 victory.

Since then the Sharks have given up the first goal in four straight games, outscored 7-1 in the first period in the process. “Everybody, if we do our job, whatever that role is, that’s where it’s got to start,” Sharks defenseman Brenden Dillon said. “Everybody not getting on each other. Staying prideful.”

The Sharks, now 0-2 on this homestand, face the on Tuesday.

San Jose Mercury News San Jose Sharks get message after labeled the ‘s-word’ by Pete DeBoer

Curtis Pashelka Nov. 2, 2019

SAN JOSE — Over the last few days, Sharks coach Pete DeBoer has used an rather unflattering word on multiple occasions when he’s described his team’s play.

“I think lately it’s been more just soft coverage,” DeBoer said before the Sharks played the on Tuesday. “Just soft around our net, letting guys get inside.”

“We’ve been a soft team for 10, 12 games,” DeBoer said Friday morning before the Sharks hosted the Winnipeg Jets. “That doesn’t win you many games in this league.”

The Sharks’ 3-2 loss to the Jets on Friday at SAP Center was their fourth straight this week and their 10th in 14 games this season. Just like losses to the Buffalo Sabres last month, the Sharks had opportunities to pick up a victory before a late miscue cost them a chance to pick up two points.

At the very least, though, the game gave this year’s Sharks team a blueprint for how it needs to play, something they’ll try to carry into Saturday’s game against the Vancouver Canucks.

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The Sharks were physical without being reckless and forechecked as well as they have all season. All four lines had something to contribute and all Sharks were more direct in getting pucks to the net.

They were just stymied by a terrific goaltending performance from Connor Hellebuyck, who made 51 saves, including 40 in the last two periods.

The Sharks were anything but soft.

“I thought we were harder all over the ice. That’s been the key,” DeBoer said Friday night. “I said earlier today I think we’ve been a soft team. I thought we were physically engaged in the game in all three zones. Makes a big difference.”

“I thought we played well. It was probably up there with our best games of the season,” Sharks captain Logan Couture said. “Disappointing to lose, but we’ll take positives in times like these. We played hard, we played well but just didn’t get results.”

The Sharks set the tone for how they were going to defend and attack the Jets within the first few shifts of the first period, not allowing a shot for a seven minute stretch until there about nine minutes left.

DeBoer has talked on multiple occasions about needing to find four lines that he can put on the ice that will pressure opposing teams in all three zones. One had to wonder if he was ever going to find what he was looking for, especially after the Sharks were trounced by the Ottawa Senators and Boston Bruins in consecutive games by a combined score of 10-3.

The loss to the Senators was especially disheartening. Ottawa has some young talented players, but they’re nowhere near being a Stanley Cup contender. The Senators for the most part dictated play at even strength and just looked like the hungrier team.

Brady Tkachuk’s goal that night was especially troublesome. He skated through the neutral with no one around him before he passed it to Dylan DeMelo, who quickly fired a shot on net.

Tkachuk crashed the crease with no resistance, got position on Erik Karlsson and tapped in a juicy rebound from Aaron Dell for a goal near the end of the second period and a 4-2 Senators lead.

Against the Bruins, the Sharks were only able to establish a forecheck for a few shifts after Brent Burns’ power play goal.

Something happened between the time the Sharks landed back in the Bay Area Wednesday afternoon and the time they suited up Friday night.

Maybe they heard DeBoer’s message about being soft.

“That’s a piece of it for sure, yeah, and it is harsh,” DeBoer said. “I don’t think there’s a worse word you can be called. But that’s the reality of it. We got it turned in the right direction tonight. We had the appropriate amount of battle and grit and fight to our game and we’ve got to continue to have that.”

“We can use (the record) as a way to maybe change our attitude and how we play,” Sharks winger Evander Kane said Friday morning. “Playing (ticked) off isn’t the worst thing, especially with where we are right now and how we’ve been playing.”

Friday, DeBoer was especially impressed with Joe Thornton’s line with Marcus Sorensen and Melker Karlsson. Thornton, in particular, had some extra jump as he created a handful of quality scoring chances.

The Sharks may have also found something with their fourth line. Taking over for the injured Dylan Gambrell, Barclay Goodrow centered the fourth line with Noah Gregor and Jonny Brodzinski on the wings. Goodrow scored his fourth of the season in the second period off a pass from Btodzinski to the game 1-1 at that point.

Brodzinski’s availability Saturday might be in question after he had shoulder problems twice in Friday’s game, according to DeBoer. If Brodzinski can play, there will likely be no lineup changes with Gambrell not expected to be available until next week.

“We don’t want to change anything,” DeBoer said. “We want to play that same type of game.”

The Athletic (San Jose) Sharks’ goaltending tandem offers little hope they can salvage the season

Kevin Kurz Nov. 2, 2019

One surefire way to ensure a poor record is to routinely get behind early.

The Sharks are proving that, as they’ve surrendered the opening goal in 11 of their first 15 games, going 2-9-0 in those games, including the latest disheartening loss on Saturday to Vancouver at SAP Center, 5-2. It was their fifth straight loss, all in regulation.

To be clear, the Sharks’ list of problems is as long as a CVS receipt. Top players aren’t performing at forward or defense, they’re playing soft (to borrow coach Pete DeBoer’s phrase on Friday morning), and they rarely generate enough in the offensive zone. In terms of winning percentage, their 4-10-1 mark (.300) puts them in a tie for 29th in the NHL with Detroit and ahead of only the Ottawa Senators, who beat them last week.

It’s been a shockingly awful first month to the season, and the hole might already be too big for them to recover from to stage a serious challenge for a playoff berth.

But perhaps the biggest problem is the one that was the most predictable before the season even began.

The goaltending.

While the play in front of them has often been ugly and uninspiring, Martin Jones and Aaron Dell aren’t doing enough on a regular basis to help the Sharks’ situation, either. The Sharks’ five-on-five save percentage of .873 is 30th in the NHL, ahead of only the New Jersey Devils. Jones checks in with an .877 SP with both teams at full strength, while Dell, after allowing four goals on 24 shots against the Canucks, is at .867.

Last season, Jones and Dell combined for an .897 save percentage at even strength, the worst mark in the league before Jones managed to string together some good playoff games. Often the Sharks, who finished tied for second in the NHL in scoring in the 2018-19 regular season, were able to outscore the softies that each goalie would routinely allow.

They don’t have that kind of firepower this season. Not by a long shot.

Yes, the forwards and defensemen have to start making some plays, but it’s unrealistic to think this group will ever put the puck in the net as much as it did last season. If the Sharks don’t start to get better goaltending, regardless of what everyone else does, their chances of making it to the playoffs will go from slim to none.

It starts with making those early saves, something Dell didn’t do against the Canucks. In an ugly sequence, Dell gave the puck away in the defensive zone, allowing Vancouver to retain possession. Shortly after that, he gave up a juicy rebound on a Josh Leivo shot that Brandon Sutter easily deposited in the net at 4:17 of the first period.

“If there’s one thing I can point to tonight, it’s I think we needed a save or at least not to get behind early, to get out in front and build on what we did last night,” DeBoer said.

The coach was referring to the Sharks’ 3-2 loss to Winnipeg on Friday night, a game they somehow coughed up despite outshooting the defensively inept Jets 53-19. Jones was in net in that game, surrendering three goals despite rarely getting tested. In fact, the Sharks had 17 high-danger scoring chances in that game while giving up just two, according to Natural Stat Trick.

None of the three goals Jones gave up to the Jets was egregious, but all were stoppable shots, too. A goalie who is on his game finds a way to help his teammates get at least one point out of that game.

Eventually, the goalie has to make a save at a key time. Neither Jones nor Dell seems to be able to do that these days with enough frequency.

“Usually one of the first two or three chances of the game ends up in the net, and then you’re playing from behind all night,” DeBoer said. “That’s been kind of our story through (15) games. It’s tough to play that kind of hockey.

“Tonight, I thought Deller tries to overplay the puck, puck stays in the zone, ends up in the net 20 seconds later on maybe (Vancouver’s) first chance of the game. … It’s tough because it’s just happened too many times.”

While it can be difficult for a team to play its best when it can’t rely on either of its goalies to make the routine stops, the players can’t be let off the hook for how they’ve reacted after some of those bad goals. Saturday was particularly brutal in that regard.

After Elias Pettersson made it 2-0 at 12:46 of the first period, the Sharks seemed to decide as a team to mentally pack it in. They managed just one shot on goal for the next 14 minutes and 27 seconds and saw the Canucks increase their lead to 4-0 in the second period.

It was probably the most deplorable stretch of hockey they’ve played this season, and that’s saying something. Despite desperately needing a win against a team they’ll surely have to catch if they are going to get back into the playoff race, just about all of the Sharks looked like they had checked out.

“It doesn’t matter the score, we’ve got enough character in here (that) we’ve got to be able to play and push through and just compete,” Brenden Dillon said.

Logan Couture said: “For a lot of us we’ve done some really, really good things in this league. We’ve been successful players in this league for a long time. We need to get that swagger and confidence back that we’ve had here for so many years.”

Not competing hard enough has rarely been the case under DeBoer. Ever since the coach took over in 2015, if the Sharks have a bad period or a tough game, they rectify it in the dressing room and quickly start to outwork the other team again.

This group doesn’t seem to do that, and that nearly 15-minute stretch after Pettersson’s goal on Saturday suggested there’s another problem the Sharks have to overcome.

Their attitude.

Where is the resiliency that has been the bedrock of Sharks hockey for the past four seasons?

“That’s what Pete has instilled, the culture that the Sharks have built here over my six years,” Dillon said. “You want to stop that losing streak at one, and here we are at our second (four-plus) game losing streak. It can’t sit well with us. … We just have to collectively look in the mirror and be better.”

Couture said: “We just can’t get out of this right now. It’s disappointing. … We’re not playing our best. That’s pretty evident. When you’re in ruts like this you need everyone to play their best, and right now unfortunately. that’s not the case.”

Getting better play from the most important position on the ice, in goal, is where it will probably have to begin. But whether the Sharks have the right guys to do that is in serious doubt, now that we’re well into a second straight season of subpar play.

Are Jones and Dell really the right tandem to get this pointed in the right direction?

“Well, I would like to think so,” DeBoer said. “I think everybody’s got to look in the mirror. Goalies, coaches, players. Everybody. We’ve got to find a way. This is our group. There’s no cavalry coming, so we’ve got to find a way.”