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(Fifth Series, Volume LXI, Sixteenth Session, 1976)

No. 3U Monday, May /o, i 976(Vaisakha 30, i8p8 (SAKA)

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Oral Answers to Questions : 1— 36

Starred Questions N«s. 732 to 738, 741, 742, 743, and 745 .

Written Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 73 1, 740, 744 and 746 to 750 36— 43

Unstarred Questions Nos. 3599 to 3618 and 3620 to 3697 43— 146

Papers Laid on the Table ...... 146— 148

Demands for Grants, t 976-77—

Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviation—

Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan ...... 149— 171

Shri D. P. Jadeja ...... 171— 177

Shri R. V. Swaminathan ...... 177— 181

Shri Mohammad I s m a i l ...... 181— 185

Shri N. K. Sanghi ...... jSj —192

Shri C. H. Mohamed K o y a ...... 192—194

Shri M l J a m ilu rra h m a n ...... 194—208

Shri Banamali P a t n a i k ...... 208—211

Shri Surendra Pal S i n g h ...... 211— 225

Shri Narendra Singh B i s h t ...... 226— 231

Shri Onkar Lai B e r w a ...... 231— 235

Shri Biswanarayan Shastri ...... 235—239

Shri Kushok Bakula ...... 239 - 242

Shri Jagannath M i s h r a ...... 242 -246

* Ths sign m irked above the name of a Mmber indicates that the qu.S 10 \ was actually ask<*d on the floor of the House by that Member. Columns Shri M. C JDaga 247— 251

Shri Vasant Sathe 251— 254 ; * Shri R.S. Pandey 254— 257

Shri Ranabahadur Singh .... 257— 259

Shrf Raj Bahadur .... 259—291

Ministry of Steal and Minos— 292— 324

Shri Krishna Chandra Haider .... 293— 302

Sardar Swaran Singh Sokhi .... 302— 307

Shri O, V. Alagesan . . 3°7—317

Shri D. K. Panda . . 318—323

SVi Jagaunath Mishra . . . 323— 324 DEBATES

i 2 LOK SABHA line price mechanism of food-grains and food products so that the price rMonday, May 10, 1976/Vaixakha 20/ level, which ig now showing a rising 1898 (Saka) tendency, is immediately arrested.

The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: I do not know how the Hon. Membei [Mr. Speaker in the Chair] is posing the argument that the prices are rising so far as agricultural com­ ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS modities are concerned. There a re > it lay on Agriculture and Irrigation certain seasonal fluctuations, but, the under 26-Polnt programme other day I explained to the House that there had been a fall of 24 per *732. SHRI P. GANGADEB: Will cent to 25 per cent as compared to the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND last year, in cereal and food-grain IRRIGATION be pleased to slate: prices. Government itself is not in- (a) whether agriculture and irriga­ terested in deflating the prices of tion have been given top priority in agricultural commodities too much as States under 20-Point Programme; and it might affect ihe advance of agricul­ tural production. (b) if so, total outlay under the states' plans in respect of these two SHRI P. GANGADEB: May 2 fur. sectors? ther ask what steps have been taken THE MINISTER OP STATE IN under the new programme, especially THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE during , to ensure AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNA- speedy completion of the unfinished SAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) Friority irrigation projects in different States— to agriculture and irrigation is reflect­ both major and minor—within a time- ed in the State Plans. Wherever ne­ bound programme and to what extent cessary, additional Plan allocations the services of the Central Water Com­ have been made, having regard to the mission have been utilised by the 20-Point Programme "-elating lo these States to implement all these half- ,«ectors. done projects expeditiously? (b) The total outlays approved for Annual Plans for 1976-77 of the States SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: and Union Territories aggregate to Rs. As the House is aware, the 20-Point 476.22 crores in respect of agriculture programme envisages additional live and allied sectors, and Rs. 672.41 cro­ million hectares to be brought undei res for irrigation and flood control. irrigation under medium and major schemes during the four years of the SHRI P. GANGADEB: In view of Plan. Last year, additional assistance the fact that the Prime Minister's 20- given to the State Governments was nt programme has successfully end- to the tune of 57 croreg of rupees. its take-off stage and is now in its The State Governments themselves next step, 2 would like, to know from are taking all steps necessary to im­ the Hon. Minister what the latest Cen­ plement this programme with all the tral directives to the States, to sream- seriousness. 766 L S— i 3 Oral Answers MAY 10, 1076 Oral Answers 4

As far a$ the Central Water and scheme is sanctioned, they will not be Power Commission is concerned, they able to help. only sanction the schemes, the imple- mentation is with the State Govern* SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: ments. Most of the electricity boards are flnd^ ing themselves in financial difficulties SHRI D N. TIWARY: I would like because of inadequate resources. That to know, whether it has been decid­ is why, we are trying to raise addition­ ed to complete the irrigation projects al resources. I quite appreciate that which have been continuing for a the conditions should not be too harsh long time. If so, whether the Govern* that these become counter-productive ment will see that Gandak project in and the farmers are not able to get, North Bihar whihc has been going on power connection. If the hen. Mem* for the last 8— 10 years is completed ber brings to my notice any specific at an early date. cases, I will take up with the State Government. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE; I fully share the sentiments of the hon. Member. In fact, a large number of 3ft, vnh i* it 5 w projects are taken up in individual States and naturally the overhead ex* penses go up. Our suggestion to the srrar t tffa * m i t fV 20 State Governments has been to im­ apTfaro % «rf?T $ im rs fo r f t plement them as early as possible so that the escalation does not take place Tift $ i $v? srrsRT g fa mart and the benefits accrue from the pro* Wft 20 v p N* I? f w t f ject at the earliest. % fats 3ft trr farr SHRI VASANT SATHE: There are *r*fT a number of irrigation projects in 3(t fa fa 3* OT Vidarbha region, where mostly it is wrr i Tgr $ trine ' dry farming, and, therefore, irrigation potential is from the wells. So many w ft o

SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: Now, as far the availability of the As far as irrigation is concerned, it rigs is concerned, as a country, we are has been indicated in the 20-point pro­ in a position to manufacture most of it gramme itself that 5 million hectares in our own country and the availability of additional land will be brought is not a difficulty though, here and under major and medium irrigation. In there, there may be some such diffi­ addition to that, 6 million hectares of culty and in special cases we are al» 7 Oral Answers MAY 10, 1976 Oral Answers 9

lowing Imports alia So the availabi­ able planning and implementation of lity of rigs and data for exploration of groundwater schemes on a sound tech­ underground water sources are not a nical basis. The Board is expected to limiting factor. The rest of the thing cover about 5 lakh KM 3 under these comes under the State Plans. surveys during the Fifth Five Year Plan against an area of about 10 lakh MR. SPEAKER': Next question. Km covered during the preceding 25 years. The Board in addition, has Strengthening of State Ground Water taken up special projects for resource Organisations for Exploitation of evaluation in limited representative Ground Water basins including chronically drought af­ fected hard rock areas with a view to *733. SHRI DHAMANKAR: Will evolving an extended methodology Qle Minister of AGRICULTURE AND and norms for planning and imple­ H1RIGATION be pleased to state: mentation of ground water schemes. (a) whether there is any central]/ Two such projects have already been sponsored scheme for providing match­ completed and six are presently in ing grants to the States for streng­ hand. thening the State Ground Water Or­ ganisations to make agricultural ope­ SHRI DHAMANKAR: The state­ rations less dependent on the vagaries ment says that under the scheme 50 of rains and to bring under plough all per cent is given a> a grant and the cultivable land; and other 50 per cent should ccme as the State contribution. (b) whether the Central Ground I would like to know vs hether aU the Water Board have made any investi­ States have got ground water organiza­ gations and collected data for formu­ tion, whether they have adopted *he lating schemes for development in scheme, whether in any State the this regard? scheme is implemented and if so, with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN what results. THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN: The AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAH­ scheme has been introduced very re­ NAWAZ KHAN): (a) and (b). A cently and it has been sanctioned by statement is laid on the Table of

hard rock operation. We are drilling What is known to the Government? through -the hard rock and we have What is the Government doing keep­ succeeded in locating water under­ ing in view that the entire track is a neath very hard rock. drought prone and dry farming area?

SHRI DHAMANKAR Which are SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN- The Central Ground Water Organisation the other six schemes In hand? has been doing very good work parti­ SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN: In cularly in the drought prone areas and Coimbatore, Noyil, Ponnani and Amra- in areas where there is any rock. vati River Basins Projects, elsewhere Upper Jamuna Project including Taj- MR'. SPEAKER: Have they been wala and Okhla, Ghaggar Project, able to locate 9 Betwa Project, Vedawati Project and Sina Man Basins Project in Maharash­ SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN: We tra. have located in that area and also in many other areas. So far, we have SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SINHA: covered 10 lakh sq. kilometers already Which are these nine States which and we have the proposal to cover 5 have prepared their proposals for lakh* sq. kilometers during the Fifth strengthening their State organisations Plan period. . (Interruptions) from matching gran? hard rock areas of sub Himalayan ranges io which SHRI VASANT SATHE: Let it be Mr. Painuli referred to a short while completed. ago? Are they also being attended to? MR. SPEAKER: They say it has SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KIIAN- 1 do been located. not have the details of the States which have submitted their proposals. But SHRI VASANT SATHE: Are you in all 9 Stales have submitted their doing something to exploit that v?at*r proposals. We are awaiting prcposals resources or you will wait till certain from the other States. In the hard point? rock areas of Himalya terrain the problem is of holders and not so much SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN; We of hard rock. We have done some are merely carrying out the surveys drilling work. and pointing out where water is avail­ able. Exploitation is. — MR. SPEAKER: Have you got the names of those States? MR, SPEAKER': It has been locat­ ed and next stage will follow. SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN: No. Water famine in Gujarat SHRI VASANT SATHE: I would like ta know from the hon. Minister ,t whether there is a Report by an ex­ *734. SHRI VEKARIA: pert Shri Adyalkar of the Ground SHRJ ARVIND M. PATEL": Water Division of the Central Govern­ ment on Ihe Deccan Track ranging Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE from Viderba region going through the AND IRRIGATION be pleased to Marathwada region upto the west and state: down to the Vindhyas. The survey Is virtually complete. The river is (a) whether Government are aware below a certain subterrain and water that Gujarat is again in the grip of level and the huge water supply is water famine; about 1000 dew and then It will be a (b) if so, districts which are facing perennial water. From this survey, water shortage; and II Oral Answers MAY 10, 1976 Oral Answers " I*

(c) measures taken by Government Government to face the situation in to face the situation in regard to agri~ regard to agriculture. Whai we find culture? is that although dams are constructed for irrigation purposes, because of THE MINISTER OP STATS IN water shortage in city areas, tftese THE MINISTRY OP AGRICULTURE waters are used for the water supply AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNA- schemes of the city areas. That is SAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) Accord­ why I am asking this question. If ing to the Information received from these waters are used for the water the State Government, difficulties are supply scheme of the city areas, then being experienced in some pockets in what will happen to irrigation sche­ the State. mes, which is our main purpose? Therefore, I would like to know this (b) Difficulties regarding drinking Has the Government any scheme to water are being experienced mainly in give water supply to the cities instead Amreli and Bhavnagar districts. of drawing water from these dams (c) The main difficulty which is be­ which are meant for irrigation purpos­ ing experienced is with regard to sup­ es? ply of drinking water, for which the State Government is taking measures SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: like deepening of walls, drilling of As far as that part is concerned, there tube-wells and supply of water by is not much danger of this type of tankers and bullock carts to the affect­ diversion of water. Agriculture is ed villages and towns. not suffering by and large. We would also suggest to the State Governments SHRI VEKARIA: Every year the about alternative schemes where agri­ rainial is decreasing in the areas of culture is likely to be very badly af­ Saurashtra and Kutch and the villagers fected, but, drinking water must have have been facing the difficulty of a priority and I am sure, the hon. water shortage every year. J would Member would be able to appreciate like to know this from the hon. Minis­ this point. ter. He says about measures like sup* ply of water by tankers and bullock carts, deepening of wells, etc. Such type of measures do not solve the prob­ sfr sN £ sr*r mm $ lem at all in these areas. I would like to know from the Minister whe % TPfr ft ^rtfr f t ^ | i ther the Government has any idea n&r $ tsfr ^ r r to put up a plant for desalination of waler from the sea in those areas. f f f |far SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE; I 3rr 3r*rr 3

fwrsRT arfa *r? 4. Chambal river. ifam % fa t «k*i f[t * w » «wt *rw fay .*ftnc*r ?mj«r»ft $srr *rtf **rrjft froraft i ift $ w?ft $1 # <*rwr *anr^nr $ SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: % q frm r m * 7% w r Permanent solution is very desirable, but in many parts of the Country, there 1 1 *

Permission to collect Crocodile Eggs from Girwa River in Nepal $ 3rr^ rrr g fa *>'i wtt? *735. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will € i wrt s V | ? the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: (a> whether Nepal Government have Sir, the breeding grounds have been permitted U.P. Government to collect destroyed because of the indiscrimi­ (crocodile eggs from the Girwa River nate use of river sources and also be­ cause of the ecological changes which in that country; and have taken place. That is why *e are (b) if so, which rivers in U.P. have trying to get them from Nepal. Our been selected as a repository and subsequent effort would be to creaie breeding ground for crocodiles? protective areas for breeding of croco­ diles. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE •« AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNA­ «ft % : srffiffiT *fhc SAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) At the re­ * m % w for quest of Dr. Bustard, an FAO expert on corcodiles assigned to the Govern­ *|5T tft JffeMT iff $ fapT if *MPC ment of . His Majesty’s Govera- ’flfcT faa t ft • ^ t art fara jnent of Nepal have agreed to the col­ $ *P5T^T % farffqTSrtf if ^ lection of 500 gharial eggs at two cen­ tres—at Nayarani adjacent to Gandak fflT | and Girwa river. The egss are meant wfrrzr % vt ^ mw v r for breeding purposes in Orissa and *** for *rf fm wTifr UP Crocodile project areas. *mt «crH (b) The following 4 rivers have been •elected as a repository and breeding wfinw «rr

2. Ramganga river. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDB: & 8m river. They ar« similar species. But, whe­ x5 Oral Answers MAY 10, 1978 Oral Answers 16

ther inbreeding is possible or not, that ture Congress which met in have is a suggestion for consideration. not passed on the recommendations to the Ministry. It is not a question ot SHEET BIBHWANATH «St0BT: May whether they have pasted on the «e* I know why the other States have commendations or not. Such an import­ been deprived of this facility tor in­ ant conference took place here which' creasing the breeding of crocodiles? was addressed by our Prime Minister. She herself participated and while SHRI ANNAS AH EB P. SHINDE: addressing the inaugural session of the Now, a few other 'States have been First Indian Agriculture Congress, Mrs. selected. Orissa is one of the States Gandhi said that rural reconstruction because it has a high potential. It was to prevent the migration of people ^ will give employment also and, for to urban areas. So, highest attention’ maintenance of our marine ecology, should be given to increase the it is desirable to have this. Croco­ agricultural output. There are so many diles help maintain ecological balance suggestions given by the Prime Mini­ by destroying harmful Ash. ster herself. And then, later on, the Indian Agriculture Congress recom­ Indian Agriculture Congress mended to Government to have the National Union of Agriculture as a + sort of a voluntary organisation to *736. SHRI R. S. PANDEY: create an atmosphere in the country'’ SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: for the participation and actual in­ volvement of the people in order to Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE create more production where there is AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: dearth of foodgrains. May I know (a) whether the Indian Agriculture whether his attention was drawn to Congress have urged lor the setting this by this organisation or the atten­ up of a National Union of Agriculture; tion of the 'Government was drawn to this to do something in this respect? (b) other points discussed at the Congress; and MR. SPEAKER; Is it National Uni­ on of Agriculture or Agriculturist? (c) reaction of Government there­ on? SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: They have suggested this. Various or­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ganisations of agriculture are to be MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND brought together. As regards the point IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. raised by the hon. Member, namely, SHINDE): Ca) The Indian Agriculture regarding the recommendations, we are Congress held in New Delhi from 8th to awaiting their recommendations and 11th April, 1976 is reported to have we learn that this organisation has not passed a resolution to constitute a yet finalised the recommendations. As National Union of . soon as the recommendations are avai­ But the resolution passed or the recom. lable to us, we will go into them. Sec­ mendations made by the Congress have ondly, we would like to encourage the not been communicated to the Govern­ voluntary organisation because we ment. cannot afford to rely only on bureau­ (b) As stated in reply to (a) above, cracy for the implementation of the no intimation has been received from developmental programmes. the Congress about the various points dlscussrd by them. SERI R. & PANDEY: May I know whether any recommendation regard, (c) Does not arise at this stage. ing 'incentive bonus' to the farmer has been received from this Organisation SHRI R. S. PANDEY: Sir, the hon. and what is the thinking of the Go­ Minister said that tfte Indian AgHeal- vernment on this? ty Oral Answers VA1SAKHA 20, 1608 (SAKA) Orta I Answers i a

MEL SPEAKER: The Minister says of State Sports Councils and Presi­ the recommendation* have not been dent/Members of the All India Council finalised so far. of Sports held in November, 1974 that each State Government/State Sports SHRI R- v . SWAMINATHAN: As Council should undertake to involve one of the organisers of this Indian around 1500 youths in active sports in National Congress, I know, this Con. each Block, thus ensuring the ference was organised by voluntary participation of about 80 lakh organisations and non-officials to pro­ young men and women by the end ol mote and bring together all the agricul­ the Fifth Five Year Plan period. The tural unions in this country. The pro­ guidelines for the development of ceedings of the discussions that took games, sports and physical culture ac­ place are being finalised and they have tivities m the country evolved by the written a letter in this respect to the Ministry in July, 1975 stress that the Government. I would like to know programme of creating a mass move* whether the Minister is aware of this ment in sports should have precedence fact? over competitive aspect of sports. These guidelines, inter alia, envisage SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: the establishment of one youth club in Yes, we are aware of it. each Panchayat to organise on a re- Sports facilities gular and sustained basis sports and games activities in indigenous and #737. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will other games popular in the area. The the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL guidelines have been brought to the WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased notice of the State Governments and to state: they have been requested to give top­ most priority to this programme in (a) whether Government have ap­ their plans for the promotion of sports. proved any schemes to improve sports facilities in the country; and A nation-wide programme of rural (b) if so, salient features thereof sports tournaments is in operation and the facilities Government are go­ since 1970-71 and in this connection ing to extend to the sportsmen to com­ special coaching camps are held for pete in Olympic games? rural sportsmen. These tournaments are held at the Block, District, State THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and National levels and involve a MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND large number of rural and tribal youtb. SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE DE­ The total number of boys and girls in­ PARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI volved during 1975.76 is estimated at ARVIND NETAM): (a) and (b). A about 7 lakhs. statement is laid on the Table of the Sabha. Promotion of sports and games in the rural sector is also an important Statement part of the programmes of the Nehru 'Government have taken a number Yuvak Kendras which have been pro­ of steps for the promotion of sports, vided with trained coaches for this games and physical culture in the purpose. These Kendras encourage country, keeping in mind the comple­ establishment of Youth Clubs so as lo mentary nature of brodbased mass involve the rural youth into various physical and sports activity on the one activities for total development of their hand and competitive sport aimed at personality. excellence and high achievement on the other. With a view to spotting sporting talent at a young age and to properly It was decided in the meeting of the develop such talent, 1,300 fresh scholar­ Stale Ministers of Sports, Presidents ships are awarded every year under Oral Answers MAY 10, 1978 Oral Answers 20 the Sports Talent Scholarships Scheme purchase of equipment and for the to outstanding school and university training of national teams. students who excel in sports and games Teams, sportsmen and women who as well as to deserving and upcoming qualify for participation in the Olympic rural and tribal boys and girls on the Games are provided expert coaching basis of their performance in the rural at the Netaji Subhas National Institute sports tournaments. of Sports, Patiala and expenses on their board and lodging during the coaching Financial assistance is provided to camps are met by the 'Government. State Sports Councils /State Govern­ Government also extend financial ments, as the case may be, for con­ assistance to cover the passage costs struction of Stadia, Swimming Pools, of Indian teams participating in the Floodlighting of Stadia, holding coach­ Olympic Games. ing camps, purchase of sports equip­ ment, establishment of Rural Sports The details of the schemes and pro­ Centres ana improvement of physical grammes undertaken by the Ministry facilities in the physical education of Education and Social Welfare for training institutions. The ceilings on promotion of sports, games and physi­ Government grants that can be given, cal culture in the country are mention­ for the above purposes have recently ed at pages 76—35 of the Ministry’s been enhanced. Annual Report for 1975-76 which was recently circulated to the Members. It Financial assistance to State Govern­ might be mentioned that in the Fifth ments/State Sports Councils and local Five Year Plan a provision of Rs. bodies is made available for the deve­ 1,370 lakhs has been proposed for the lopment of play-fields, while assistance promotion of sports, games and physi­ is channelled through the University cal culture while an expenditure of Grants Commission and the Associa­ about Rs. 304 lakhs was incurred dur­ tion of Indian Universities for uni­ ing the Fourth Five Year Plan period versities and colleges for develop­ for this purpose. ment of physical facilities and for SHRI K. MALLANNA: May I know organising coaching-cum-eompetition whether there have been any specific camps. activities to involve the rural youth and the tribes? If so, what are those Facilities for coaching of sportsmen specific activities? and women and training of coaches SHRI ARVIND NEJTAM: The Go­ themselves have been made available at vernment of India started this rural the Netaji Subhas National Institute sports scheme in the year 1970-71. of Sports. Patiala and at the Regional Since 1970-71 this is a continuous pro­ Coaching Centres. A South Branch of cess. Through this scheme we have the Institute has been set up at Banga­ covered specifically rural areas and tri­ lore to make improved facilities avai­ bal areas and also local popular sports lable in . events, I am to tell the House through this scheme we have involved nearly 7 Coaching, conditioning and improv­ lakh boys and girls in 1975-76. ing physical fitness of national teams is arranged through the Netaji Subhas SHRI K. MALLANNA: May I know National Institute of Sports, Patiala from the hon’ble Minister as to what fre« of cost. is the amount of fund allotted to the rural youth to activise the sports? Grants are made available to nation­ SHRI ARVIND NETAM; The Fifth al sports Federations/Associations for Five Year Plan allocation for the rural held mg national Competitions, parti­ sports scheme is Rs. 40 lakhs and for cipation hi international sports events, the current year it is Rs. 9 lakhs. a t Oral Answer* VAI5AKHA 20, 1898 {SAKA) Otal Answers

Rpjfil arum WT$?rr the President of the Sports Council. $ fa w tor *t* *>r ^ They have agreed on principle to try to evolve a scheme of physical education t fa- fc€t* not as compulsory but as a part of the «(frr*T % far?ft *nr% |, w curriculum. ^rnre #

Fish Production hon. Member is interested, I am pre­ pared to furnish him more details. #738 SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: Will the Minister Of AGRICULTURE AND SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO; As 1 have IRRIGATION be pleased to state: already stated, our country is having a long coastline and it it reported that ' (a) the target of fish production at it has abundant fish resources but till the end of the Fifth Flan period in now no systematic survey for exploita­ comparison to production of fish at the tion of the fish resources have been end of the Fourth Plan period. State- made except in certain areas of the wise; and southwest coast. In order to reach (b) action being taken to achieve the the Fifth Plan target is there any the target State-wise? programme to make a survey.... THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE MR. SPEAKER: Have you read the MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND statement? IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: (a) and (b). A statement SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: No. is laid on the Table of the Sabha. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- MR. SPEAKER: That is why you are 10818/.76.] asking these questions, you must first read the statement. SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: India with tts 5500 km long coastline is very rich SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: I want to /n fish population and is equally rich know whether any survey is going to in inland water resources for pisicul- be made with assistance frr.m tne ture. No doubt an account of the United Nations or World Bank finan­ planned programme state-wise for all cial assistance. the states had been given by the hon. Minister in his statement. This is no SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: It doubt an encouraging hint for the aug­ will not be correct to say that surveys mentation of fish production. Certain have not been made. Their adequacy, * schemes are already in operation. I one can question. Further surveys are want to know the progress made so under consideration. far in the implementation of the said projects in order to reach the fifth plan SHRI SAKTI KUMAR SARKAR: targets and in (a) setting up of fish You know how much Bengal is in­ farm agencies in the states and the terested in fish. The figure given in the progress made in the states to educate statement is not correct. It is to fishermen in moderff methods of fish- some extent inflated. May 1 know catching and to provide loans for the whether he can give us the breakup fishing industry and (b) the progress of the fresh water, brackish water and made in setting up trawler develop­ marine water fish as well as the com­ ment fund. posite culture which he advocated so much. May I know whether the capi­ SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: 1 tal expenditure in the budget for have given a number of details in the pisiculture is equivalent to the ex­ statement which I have laid on the penditure that has been incurred on Tattfe of the House. By and large the the salarise of the officers concerned. programmes are going very well, whe­ I also want to know further whether in ther it is a small fish farm or a big one. the Calcutta market prawn is at pre­ At the moment they have been set up sent selling at Rs. 45-35 a kilo which in about eight or nine states. But pre- Is beyond the reach of a common man. cifle information is not available with May 1 ask the bon. Minister to give me. About the development of Inland some consideration to this problem sp fisheries and harbours, all details b$ve that seme ban Is put on prawns being ' been given in the statement and if the exported at the cost of our people? 25 Oral Answers VA1SAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Ofai Answers 26

SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: Opening of Schools In Delhi Perhaps the breakup which the hon. Member wants is with the state go­ *741. SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA: vernment; it is not readily available Will the Minister of EDUCATION, with me and if the hon. Member is SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE interested, I will ask the state govern­ be pleased to state: ment to furnish the details to him. Prawns bring us very valuable foreign exchange and they constitute a small (a) Whether Government propose to , part of the total fish landing in our open more schools in the Union Terri­ country, about 40,000 tonnes out of 23 tory of Delhi during the current year, lakh tonnes. In the interest of the eco­ and nomy of our country, we should like • to permit export of prawns and we (bl if so, number of Higher Secondary ran in our country consume other kinds Schools and Middle Schools to be open, of fish that are available. ed and their break-up according to localities?

WWtT fa * “ a q v f 1 : 5* *WPT THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE if W 5} fiiird* srl MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE fiHflftf % f5W 'ffasfr TaWtffa DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI 5? 250 siTOSo tfr a n r fv r tfttft 1 D. P. YADAV): (a) and (b). A fartfrc % %ftx w w fwrf *flr statement is laid on the Table of the Sabha. Tff b 'sit % it srpwr^fr g far jfqT acra w; tfrf sftir! % fa v; fisww far* 3ft «wt$ I , Ksfr Statement if fr Tfc $ vt swff 1 Delhi Administration proposes to srw ?flrc v c fcr. 3rv5r. $ fa 3ft fa r trsflr apen during the current jear 15 Higher Secondary Schools and 10 % far^TH % fa‘3 SiThT ^ Middle Schools. The names and srfai.Tf>iff v t w vrfV 4< «frr, faf«% % YMRMT if ajfg: tfWf I Higher Secondary Schools 1. Government Co-Educational High­ er Secondary School, J. J. Colony, Tagore Garden. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE. There is no difficulty about planning 2. Government Girls Hr. Secondary the plan outlay. The main difficulty in School, Chand Nagar. Bihar is that the loans which are given to fisherman are not on long term 3. Government Girls Hr. Second aiy basts. So the development activities School, C. Block, Janakpuri. cannot be taken up. We have advised 4. Government Co-Edu. Hr. See -the Bihar Government to give pre­ School, Khayala. ference to the Fishermen Co-operati­ ves on long term basis in the matter of 5. Government Co-Edu. Hr. See. giving loans. School, Anand Vas, Shakarpur. 27 Oral Answerg MAY 10, 1876 Oral Answers 28

6. Government Co-Edu. Hr. Sec. the criteria fixed about the location School, Gopal Park. of schools in the xural areas of Delhi? 7. Government Girls Hr. Sec. SHRI D. P. YADAV: Sir. the cri­ School, Shankar Nagar. teria for opening of new Schools are ft. Government Boys Hr. Sec. the need of the locality. That should School, Shankar Nagar. be the first criteria and that is the first criteria. The second criterion 9. Govt. Co-Edu. Hr. Sec. School, is the availability of land and other Nand Nagri. facilities. 10. Govt. Co-Edu. Hr. Sec. School, Biswas Nagar. SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA: Is it not the fact that some of the new 11. Govt. Girls Hr. Sec. School, schools are being opened within a Shakarpur. distance of a mile or so and the schools are opened in those areas 12. Govt Girls Hr. Sec. School. A where schools are already in exis* Block, Lawerance Road. tence while in some of the rural areas 13. Govt. Hr. Sec. School (Co-Edu.), which are a little away from the Kalyanpuri. capital do not have schools at a small distance? They are at a distance of Middle Schools 6 or 7 miles. I am not talking about the middle-schools. I am talking about 1. Govt. Middle School (Co-Edu.) the Higher Secondary Schools. Why Phase I, Ashok Vihar. those areas which are more vocal and 2. Govt. Co-Edu. Middle School, more influential are having more Paschimpuri. number of schools? 3. Govt. Co-Edu. Middle School, Jai SHRI D. P. YADAV: I have already Dev Park. mentioned about the criteria for open* 4. Govt. Co-Edu. Middle School, ing new schools. There may be some Amal Vas, Nangloi. anomaly somewhere. If the Hon’ble Member brings this fact to our 5. Govt. Co-Edu. Middle School, notice, we would look into it. How­ Seelampur (J. J. Colony). ever, The Delhi Administration will try its best to rationalise the distribu­ 0. Govt. Girls Middle School, Bhola tion of these school:;. Nath Nagar. 7. Govt. Co-Edu. Middle School, SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA My New Seemapuri. question is whether new schools are located in certain areas which are 8. Govt. Co-Edu. Middle School, already having schools while the Tlrlokpuri. rural areas which do not have 9. Govt. Co- Edu. Middle School, schools... D. D. A. Colony, Phase II, Kalkaji. MR. SPEAKER: You have to men- The locations ol the remaining two tion specific point so that it can be Higher Secondary Schools and one taken up with the Delhi Administra­ Middle School are under considera­ tion. tion of Delhi Administration. SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA: SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA: In wanted to know if the Government the case of opening new schools In the have any rules that no new schools capital whether there is any criterion are to be located in the areas where regarding the distance between one there are already some schools within school and another school. What Sire a distance of two miles or three miles. 39 Orttl Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Otal Answers %o

SHRI D. P. YADAV: I would like IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB the Hon’ble Member to give some P. SHINDE): (a) A unit ot Madem suggestion in this regard so that we Bakeries at Ratochi in Bihar has been mn pass it on to the Delhi Adminis­ under construction for about two years. tration.

SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA: I (b) There has been some delay in wanted to know from the Government completion of this unit due to delay whether they have any rules that no in receipt of plant and equipments new schools are not to be located in from abroad and completion of civil the areas where there are already works. The unit is expected to go into schools within a distance of two or trial production in June, 1976. three miles. (c) The Government of Bihar had SHRI D. P. YADAV: I have proposed to the Company that a unit already answered his question that it may be set up at Patna. depends on the needs of the locality.

(d) Thift Company had felt that the unit at Hanchi will for the present be unfa vromft able to meet the requirement ot ■ft wrarr bread in Patna and the question of nil setting up of an additional unit in Patna may be considered later. *742. «sftTTOTOTIT STTFsft : fUT xrtr ftrwif 5r?rr% tit ffrr «ft TmnWR STTfsft : «f6*W st*«t *(*T)«nr*ifts«T9rr3 f w if frr fw^rr *m rr (V) w t fsr^TT % % wftK. if ^ w ^ m s ftw tt % ^ srarr* ’sj^r fa^rWrefbr t i f%*rr «tt i ?ft v&n % vrt if ?ft t o ftxfr % srrt ^ («r) qfsr ?t, ?fr ^ 'tit K*fvpjv|farar^Tv if fsrspsr %

that a unit will be established at Hanchi and then sc Patntr. Dteato WWfeff $f*ff 1ft* M ih | t cr*ft ?«? *ww 1% w r SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: I f l # wc^rf w ir ntff ? do not want a long speech. I only want to know what is the result of the ^cKT cfr OT? *ii**r OTS-3T9T *T % market survey, when the maximum %*T f I 5fiff v r W«F^ I

SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE: Originally a medium-sized plant with Originally the decision was to have a capacity of 15,000 to 20,000 loaves a medium-sized plant, but after the per day was to be established. But the market survey was made, it was markent survey indicated that a larger decided to have a larger plant. plant with 40,000 loaves capacity can be established and so a larger plant is being established. There is no difficulty in achieving the maximum SHRI NAWAL KISHOKB SINHA capacity immediately after the plant SINGH: According to the answer goes into production If the market is furnished by the minister. It appears there. 33 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) 011al Answers 34 C1osure of Sugar Mills in U.P. due to p;fT ~;;qr;;r ~ : ~ ~2-c: mr;fll'c:: cane shortage Cfi'T f;;r<=i{o;:r~r ~· fofi Cfi'"~ ;~r~ ~~· (b) if so, reasons for the cane short- i'J· 'i:f''r:fl· 9i'T :rrr age; and m~ \ifGf f'fi :q)rrr f+r~ q-g,:f {i "~''~ €fT (c) what is the estimated reduction ~if l fCfiiJriT ~~q ro;:;:r ~TiT 'iJT ~gr ~ ? in sugar production due to this clo- sure? ~r :ar~'fCfr-if llftr~ rr ' vnwr itf* $ | ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) and (b). A statement is placed on the Table of the Sabha. « r f v r s t f t k z m r f i artqrrasritf f »t«T sretf %, Statement ^ si.sr f> *rfr

Rice is grown under diverse condi­ t o r n : Sfcft f t tions and in different seasons. While c^rrwr w ^ ff sftr the new dwarf varieties have fared f-srrt 3ft fs r # f * frffir- better than the traditional ones during rabi and summer seasons and in areas Tfldhrcr m *pw, % spw 5r having well drained soils as in Punjab and Haryana, the indigenous tell varieties which are seasons bound have proved to be better than the ^ «ff ? new dwarfs during the south west monsoon season and in soils having «ft $n*rsr*nr«rt : 5f «f/# water management problems. How­ it n ?fi I ever, some of the new varieties like Jaganath and Pankaj have fared well in the eastern coastal regions during WRITTEN ANSWER TO QUESTION the south west monsoon season.

Decision to increase prices of Agricul­ Improvement of traditional varie­ tural Produce ties was discussed in detail at the recent Workshop meeting of the All India Coordinated Rice Improvement *731. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Project. The traditional varieties are AND IRRIGATION be pleased to used in breeding programmes under state: the All India Coordinated Rice Im- provenment Project as a base for fur­ (a) whether Government have de­ ther improvemnnt. cided to increase the prices of agricul­ tural produce which is at present fallng gradually; sftfarm far? (b) if so, broad outlines thereof; s s j iNs ^ % srrc % 3TFRT ^rg*rr wt snrer* afrr sro (c) whether Government have as­ sured the organisers Of Agriculture fV^yrfw, srt vs Congress that the prices of foodgrains ?pp fa r# % qrar 5? would be raised; and % 5*TR % 3TC? tot f fbrew f^ r (d) how far this would help the fa stpt # f o w small farmers? f fas*?, ^?rin *jtjsn rrf% ^tn sr# THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ^m rr fftarr ft f K ^ MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE); (a) and (b). A Statement w? £ sflr % w ? grcr *rnr w ft sr*r is laid on the table of the House. afforfsrf snft £ «r? aftorrfort (c) No, Sir. 37 Wrttt** Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

(d) Does sot axis*. Bihar since the inception of the pro- gramme. Statem ent (c> It has been the Government’s policy to assure remunerative prices lor agri­ Name of District No. of farmers benefited cultural produce. For this purpose, Shahabad . procurement prices are fixed for major 43,989 foodgrains and minimum support Samastipur . . 20,171 prices are fixed lor cotton and jute. Purnea • . For sugarcane, minimum prices pay­ 18,343 able by sugar factories are announc­ Ranchi . 12,416 ed. Despite the fall in market prices Champaran of agricultural produce during the last . 6,632 one year or so, procurement prices Santhal Parganas . 8,996 for rice, wheat, jowar, bajra, maize and ragi have been maintained at the last year’s level. In addition, sup­ Total 10,547 port prices have been fixed for barley and gram for the 1976-77 marketing (Rise in Prices of Pulses and Baxley season. Minimum support prices for cotton and jute have been increased. *744. SHRIMATI ROZA DESH- Minimum prices payable by sugar PANDE: Will the Minister of AGRI­ factories for sugarcane have also been CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be maintained at the previous years level. pleased to state: (a) whether the prices of pulses and Farmers Training Programme barley have gone up recently; and *740. SHRI CHIRANJIB JHA: Will (b) if so, reasons therefor? the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE IRRIGATION be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND (a) names of districts in Bihar se­ IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB lected under the Centrally Sponsored P. SHINDE): (a) The wholesale price Farmer’s Training Programme during index of moong and urad has gone up the Fifth Five Year Plan period; recently, but for the pulses as a group, it has fallen. The price index for (b) expenditure incurred by Gov­ barley showed a continuous fall till ernment on this programme; and 3rd April 1976; but picked up in the following weeks. (c) district-wise number of farm­ ers benefited by this training pro­ (b) Rise in the prices of moong and gramme? urad is seasonal; while prices of barley have picked up after announce­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment of the support price by Govern­ MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND ment. IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) In addition to the Madras Urban Development Project six Farmers Training Centres estab­ *746. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: lished in Bihar during the IVth Plan, Wfll the Minister of WORKS AND one Farmers Training Centre has been HOUSING be pleased to state: allotted for establishment during Vth Plan. The new district is to be select­ (a) whether the Committee appoint­ ed by the State Govt, and intimation ed by the Union Government on the in this regard is awaited. Madras Urban Development Project has submitted its report; (b) A total amount of Rs. 33,41,077 (b) if so, the facts thereof; and have been released to the Govt, of 3 9 'Writ ten Answers MAY 10. 1070 Written Answers 40

(c) if not, by what time it is expect­ during the ensuing acadmic session, ed? and except with the prior approval of the Director, no such school shall THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND charge during that academic session, HOUSING AND PARLIAMEN rARY any fee m excess of the fee specified AFFAIRS (SHRI K RAGHURA- by its manager in the said statement MAIAH) (a) The Committee appoin­ ted to assess the urban development The Delhi School Education Act needs of the Madras Metropolitan provides for regulating the minimum Region has not yet submitted its qualifications for recruitment of em­ report ployees m respect of both recognised pnvate schools as well as unaided (b) Does not arise minority schools Whenever Delhi Administration come across cases of (c) The report is expected shortly teachers who do not fulfil the prescri­ bed minimum qualifications, appio- Foblic Schools/English Medium priate action is taken by them m this Schools in Delhi run by Missionaries regard The allotment of land to unaided *747 SHRI R N BARMAN Will schools is made at concessional rate the Minister of EDUCATION SOCIAL since they also serve the same pur­ WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleaseJ pose as the other aided schools to state (a) whether there are many Public Central assistance to Tamiinada for Schools or English medium schools Development of Fishery run by Missionaries m Delhi who are chaigmg high fees even when all of *748 SHRI P GANGA REDDY their staff is not properly trained and Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE they have been allotted land at a very AND IRRIGATION be pleased to concessional rate by the Delhi Admin- state istiation; and (a) whether Tamilnadu Govern­ (b) if so, whether Government pro­ ment have sought financial assistance pose to rationalise the fee structure for fishery development, and and if so, when this will be done’ (b) if so, decision of Government THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE thereon? MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CULTUTE (SHRI MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND D P YADAVJ (a) and (b) There IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB arc three schools m Delhi which arc P SHINDE) (a) and (b) Out of a members of the Indian Public Schools total provision of Rs 90 91 crores foi Conference and 21 Higher Secondi>rv all States/ UTs for development of and Middle Schools with English fisheries in Fifth Five Year Plan the me hum run by miss onary organza highest outlay of Rs 18 80 crores was tions All these are unaided recogms earmarked for Tamilnadu Outlays ed schools Under the Delhi School of Rs 150 lakhs Rs 170 lakhs and Rs, Education Act, the fees payable by 262 lakhs have been approved for pupils m aided schools are fixed, 1974 75 1975-76 and 1976-77 for fish whereas m the case of unaided eries development m Tamilnadu It recognised schools the Manager may be recalled that the request of oi such schools shall, before the com Tamilnadu for an outlay of Rs 202 mencement of each academic session lakhs for 1976-77 was accepted in full. file with the Director a full statement In addition to the assisUnce under of fees to be levied by such schools State Plan schemes, Tamilnadu has 41 Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 180ft (SAKA) Written Answers 42 been receiving assistance for fisheries for major fishing port at Sassoon Dock development under both Central and is under consideration. The full pre- Centrally-sponsored schemes. Under investment survey reports are awaited the Central sector scheme lor estab­ for two other major ports, Ratnagiri lishment of Fish Farmers Development and Agardanda. Agencies, one Agency has been approv­ ed for establishment in Tanjavur dis­ The following minor ports have been trict and already a sum of Rs. 4.5 lakhs sanctioned. has been released. Rs.

The State has also received equip­ 1. Karanja 11*46 lakhs ment totalling Rs. 2.74 lakhs during 1973-74 from the Norwegian Aid. 2. Daliwara 3*04 lakhs The major Central assistance has, 3- Uttam 4*63 lakhs however, been in the field of fishing 4- Thai 2.20 lakhs harbours. A deep sea fishing harbour at Madras was sanctioned at an esti­ 5- Mulgaon Kcliwada 1-87 lakhs. mated cost of Rs. 668 lakhs m August, 1973. Central assistance has been Illiteracy Among Women given to the extent of Rs. 38 lakhs in *750. SHftl S. M. BANERJEE: Will 1973-74, Rs. 140 lakhs in 1974-75 a(id Rs. 85 lakhs in 1975-76 depending upon the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL the anticipated expenditure during WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: these years. (a) whether illiteracy among women In addition, the Centre has approved is highest in Bihar, U.P., Madhya outays for the construction of medium Pradesh and Rajasthan; fishing harbours at Tuticorin (Rs. 210 lakhs), Mallipalnam (Rs. 10.6 lakhs) (b) if so, percentage thereof during and Kodaikarai (Rs 14.40 lakhs). The the period 1972 to 1975; and harbour at Tuticorin has already been completed while construction is start­ (c) what special steps Government ing at both Mallipatnam & Kodai­ have taken to combat it? karai. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TI1E MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE Central Aid for Flatting Harbours in DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI Maharashtra D. P. YADAV): (a) According to the provisional figures available from 1971 *749. SHRI SHANKERRAO SAVANT- Census, the percentages of illiteracy Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE among women in the four States and AND IRRIGATION be pleased to for the whole country are as follows; state:

(a) names of major and minor States Age-Groups fishing ports in Maharashtra for which help is being given by the Centre; 15-24 25—34 35-i- and Rajasthan ... 85.5 92*1 96*1 (b) extent of the help given in each case? Bihar . • 8 5*1 91-1 9 S'6 U.P. . 8j *8 90*6 95*o THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Madhya Pradesh . 78*8 89*3 94*7 IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB Alllridia • «7*5 81-3 89-6 P. SHIDE): (a) and (b). The proposal 43 Written Answers MAY 10, 1976 Written Answers 44

(b) Information for the period 1972 (b) and (c). Do not arise. to 1975 is not available as literacy figures are collected only at the time of each decennial Census. ~~r. ;a~;:r (c) Special measures are being taken to promote education among ( q'<-"!t 51"~) ij 5lrc.1;;1!'ffi ~m illiterate women both under formal ctn~ and non-formal programmes at differ- 'RNT "'T \; ent levels. These inClude incentives in the form of scholarships, freeships, books and uniform grants, hostels, 3600- ~) ~Cf.q ~ ~~:'fliT mid-day meals, functional literacy l!iflil' ~r-.: f~t +f(:f[· 11~ Gim~ 'ffl· wrr programmes, non-formal education programmes for the age.group 15--25 9i''tif fi.f; : etc. Special efforts have also been planned to increase the enrolment of girls in the age.group 6-11 and ('f.) Cf!!T ~;:~i·zr 'CP:'fin: [f'D :ST(1:ST 11-14. t#crc:fr , l=t"l:'!JT ·~::l':s, ~·~rr ( +:rccr >r~) These measures together with efforts of the State Governments and several i:f >frcr•=r~crD" llr?.T cr~r ?f.il": ( ~) : 'lTTBrT (b) if so, salient features of the in- quiry; and mer ~J:iF cr:~ ~i f~ :a·;;:~;; it ~J;if>' fcr"fT' frlc:R Cf>T ct~~T lCfftfrcififi tRT~ ~

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Sf ffftr irijpcfvtirrenRrw^ (a) figures upto April, 1970, regard* ing disbursement of Hoang fair temoval of rural debt according to the policy *Tff, ?ft?R w r Wfa ^Rtf- announced by the Government since fiwr flfnPT^T^f O ift v * *fowr Emergency; and % iFcffa fa m r n $ i (b) fact s about the proposals made for extending such loans for the year ijfaffr OOfw 1976-77? O f 3nTT AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAH­ NAWAZ KHAN): (a) and (b). The % TTSflT ^ ^ trap State Governments have been reques­ f*w v4^rfV?ff sfft: ?r*rr<5r % *nf«w ted to make the required assessment regarding requirement of credit and s f e $ % f ^ q;0$?r to furnish information regarding loans vfrtrm sr/ttT m*rw ?><5rt ^ f i given in 1974-75 and the target fixed W % s R r fa , srr^r for 1975-76 for provision of loans to small and marginal farmers, agricul­ fkroft % JT*?Hi ®F>T faqfal fas* tural labourers and rural artisans. *ro «n% OOfiw ?r«n Committee appointed by under the chairmanship of w*rrsr % srrfa* s f e ShwtO t o t Shri B. Sivaraman has gone into the sf* *

(b) steps taken/proposed to aug­ ment its production? DMMnement of Loan for Removal of Rural Debt THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 3802. SHRI SAMAR GtlHA: Will MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND the Minister at AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS IRRIGATION be pleased to state: PATEL): 49 Writte n Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1808 (SAKA) Written Answers

gt^te Production (in*oootorrt«) 1971-72 1972-71 1973-74

2 3 4

Andhra Pradesh 113-9 149* 7 Assam ...... 255-8 268-5 Bihar ...... 35-8 43-6 G u j a r a t ...... 252-4 252-4 Karnataka...... JOi-8 91-7 Kerala ...... 357-9 353-6 Madhya Pradesh 352 52-9 2S-3 Maharashtra ...... 603-1 714-0 Meghalaya 30*4 329 361 Orissa ...... 107-6 107-6 110*0 Tamil Nadu 1062-6 1051-9 1058-6 T r i p u r a ...... 17-8 17-5 I7‘5 9'7 7-6 Andaman & Nicobar Islands 2-7 2-0 2-4 M i z o r a m ...... 4-5 u-3

Total All Ii dia ...... 3374-1 2999-7 3142-4

(b) (i) For augmenting the produc­ st»Nt ?srraTfafrc»T mi snga tion of exportable varieties of Banana the Government ot India are imple­ menting a Centrally Sponsored Package programme on Banana in the States 36t4. sft fty? : w-rr ot Maharashtra, Gujarat, Karnataka, %-fa whrftwf *f-Ti irs apV fNrr Andhra Pradesh, West Bengal, Orissa, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, and Madhya : Pradesh. (*p) if h'&r srksfr srrsra (ii) The State Government* are also tft Pp«t «rr ; implementing development pro­ grammes for stepping up the produc­ («) «rfWr- tion ot Banana in the State Sector oI csnrr *r*n*r% tfNr fap ffvf the Pisa. 5i Written Answers MAY 10,1076 Written Answers

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(b) whether over 2 km. of moat,, in the 240 acre zoo, haa dried up; tfifr («ft f o : (c) if so, immediate steps Govern, ment propose to take In this regard ( * ) *rwr $ srrenr % % r to save the animals who mostly live *»* 1974-75 ?Wr 1975-76 % fair on water; and w r : 253 cPTT 312 (d) whether the zoo is likely to be «ft ^rpRrr tFtsipt «rr 1 qfggrcft closed for some time for visitors? Sr v*mwtir ^rf«PT % irepfer THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE VT*fK $ff Jr J T ^ f 3TRT MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND **r*r %% % f?r^ 1 9 7 4 -7 5 % f*rcr IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS PATEL): (a) Due to repairs of un­ so^rrar srh. 1975- 76% 'farr altered water line near Irwin Hospi­ 45 «qtr wrf*m f 1 tal, the supply of unfiltered water was suspended from 2-4-1976 to 15-4-1976 to the Delhi Zoological Park. As a (^r) aflr, 1 Iresult, the unflltered water in the moats or channels which form a bar­ (»r) sr77 ^ srsgrr 1 rier in all the animals enclosures at Delhi Zoological Park began drying up and it was feared that due to fall House Building Loans in the water level in moats, the ani­ mals might come out. However, the 3607. SHRI MOHINDER SINGH Zoo also has a tubewell which forms GILL: Will the Minister of WORKS an alternative source of water in the AND HOUSING be pleased to state moats. This saved the situation and whether house building loans are also no untoward incident occurred in the being granted according to enhanced Zoo. The unfiltered water supply limits to low and middle income peo­ was resumed in about 15 days. There- ple? was, however, no interruption in the supply of filtered water to the Zoo. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN The situation is normal now. THE MINISTRY OF WORKS AND (b) No. Although the unfiltered HOUSING (SHRI H. K. L. BHA- water level in the moats had fallen GAT): House building advance considerably, no moat had completely equal to 75 months’ pay of the Central dried up. Government servant concerned or Rs. 70,000 whichever is less, subject to (c) Not necessary since the situa­ their repaying capacity, is admissible tion has normalised. to all Central Government servants including low paid and those in mid­ (d) No. The situation is normal dle income group. now. Delhi School Teachers Cooperation Water Supply to Delhi Zoo House Building Society Ltd., Delhi 3608. SARDAR SWABAN SINGH 3609. SHRI GAJADHAR MAJHI: SOKHI: Will the Minister of AGRI­ Will the Minister of WORKS AND- CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be HOUSING be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) whether some of the officers of (a) whether Delhi zoo failed to get the present Managing Committee of" Its daily need of 10,000 gallons o£ Delhi School Teachers Cooperative water for the fifteenth day, till 17th House Building Society Ltd., Delhi are April, 1976; those against whom charges of crlmi-* *55 Written Amnoers MAY 1 0 ,107ft Written Answers

«al misappropriation and criminal embmlesnent of lakhs of rupees of f t * # t *Ttr -the society or bungling into the affairs «' irfe* rotifer m fa rt •of (he society havfc been levelled; 3 6 ii. : (b) whether one of the Chief Exe­ mm cutives of the Society had advanced some years back a sum of Rs. 4 lakhs f V : to the contractor of the society for development works which were never taken up by the contractor; and (sf) m MftfiPFro srrfsRrw % w f t fsprrcr qftJT^nrrtff % S te rrf (c) whether Registrar of Co-opera­ tives is considering to take steps to * t fwffT?r Trfar «?fsnfr «Rrrfi?r remove such an office bearer/office M r | ; bearers from the Society and initiate prosecution against him/them? ( ^ ) ^§5|,^Rt%5n*r THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY sr^rrrfVr f^cFftr- AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGIIURA- *r$ | , MAIAH); (a) No, Sir. ( * ) srfspfr fsSr arrv* % (b) Question does not arise ; srk (c) Question does not arise.

Damage to Crop in Haryana and U.P. («r) % 5* trfsnr n f 3610. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will Trfar *rt % farcr sprr vTfrTgt the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND | tfsrfaar wnr^rrfnft % fap^g- IRRIGATION be pleased to state: n*rr vpkrft | ’ (a) estimated damage to food crops on account of recent untimely rains and hailstorms in some parts of faflffa fftcvWW 7T«TT Haryana and U. P.; and spft («f> T ^ w i ) (^ ) w ft ^ TO ffffar?r (b) how it is going to affect pro- curement in these States? | far fcswV fa^ m srrfg^rwi stitt t vfST^r 1PRTH faqT THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE *nrr | i MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS PATEL)- (a) According to the in­ (sr) ?r («r) : $ TO** ssarr i formation received from the Govern­ ment of Harayana, the estimated da­ nT’wrcf v wfw mage to crops due to hailstorm in Kurukshetra> Karnai and Ambala 3612 f r o . w Districts is Rs. 5.14 crores. There has been no loss due to untimely rams. t o ^ f^rr Information from the Government of Uttar Pradesh has not been received so far. It will be laid on the Table of the Sabha as soon as it is received. («rr) w t swrc % anrcfr (b) The procurement of rabi grains v t i f t f t ?nrr fwwnc q r in these States is not likely to be S«r srf^fsr *T*TT fa ff iwt f * affect* to any significant extent 57 Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1808 (SAKA) Written Answers 5*

(«■) ?fT vtr t o t sions to work out a programme for conducting joint investigations of the an?r ^rr^rfT^ | % sfasft g u rf Fancheshwar Dam on Sarda river ffnr 'mtrwm Sr fa*rr (also known as Mahakali river), Kar- anrn | fs n f w f % nali Project on Ghaghra river (known as Karnali river in Nepal) and sto­ fip r 3 (. tftr rage dam on Rapti, which would be * of mutual benefit to both the coun­ tries. (*r) *wr f w t s m r tf wrt wrh tt wr s i f t e r ^ spT | f V # w f f ?T3Fmr ?faT Taking over o f Dr. Shrikishan Singh Science Museum I? 3614. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE $far «tfit R m nf *r*nft*3f SINHA: Will the Minister of EDU­ *rf> («fy sr^Rm qa?»): (sf) : aft ?rst 1 CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to refer to the *rwrfasr?r tt^ t %• ^ s r 3?^ a-rfa reply given to Unstarred Question No. HT T1*T W 7W 3TTT14 f^fERTT ST %f?T 2563 on 26th April, 1976 regai ding Science Museum and state:— fWV srt *f«PFrfr % *r^r js? f^w r % srnrzrff ? t fjppR tif (a) whether Government propose to SRTTffft 1 take over Dr. Shrikishan Singh Science Museum, Patna, in Bihar; and (w) zr*Ht bv mwf wt (b) it so, when? w fa Tf^T% fft sthttt H ^ rr ^ ^ T T TT *gt ST# t I 3T g?rfT THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION ANP tfWT SFfift *f»*T *TT FS JTTT^i SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE % srt-st farrr < fg?r it ?r#r |nrr s DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI D. P. YADAV): (a) *\nd (b). Nego­ tiations are in progress with the Sri (*r) snra1 f t 5T?r ^3=rT 1 Krishna Gyan Mandir of Patna for the establishment of a science museum Harnessing o f the Himalayan Rivera there. The Ministry of Education and CSIR are in touch with the Trus­ tees of the Krishna Gyan Mandir. 3613. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to re­ Central Assistance for construction of fer to the reply given to Starred Houses for Low Income Group in Question No. 90 on the 12th January, Orissa 1976 regarding taming of Himalayan river* through Multipurpose projects 3615. SHRI D. K. PANDA: Will and state the latest position with re­ the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ gard to the talks with the Govern­ ING be pleased to state: ment of Nepal in connection with the (a) how (much assistance Govern­ harnessing of the Himalayan rivers? ment have given to Orissa Govern­ ment for constructing houses for peo­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ple in low income group during last MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND three years; IRRIGATION (SHRI KEDAR NATH SINGH): The High Level Team from (b) how many house-sites in Orissa the Government of India visited were distributed to the people as the Nepal in March, 1976 and held discus­ part ot 20-Point Economic Programme; 39 Written Answer* MAY 10. 1976 Written Answers

(c) have Central Government taken Are intended for all the members of -any steps to expedite the implementa­ the public irrespective of Caste, Creed tion of this particular aspect of the or Community. programme; and

(d) how many houses have been Scarcity Areas in Rajasthan constructed for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in the State of •Orissa since 1973 to 1975? 3616. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PAS- WAN; Will the Minister of AGRI­ THE MINISTER OP WORKS AND CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY pleased to state: AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHURA- MAIAH): (a) The Low Income (a) whether some areas in the State Group Housing Scheme forms part of of Rajasthan have recently been de­ the State Sector programmes. From clared scarcity areas; and the beginning of the Fourth Five Year Plan, i.e., 1st April, 1969, Central (b) if so, names thereof and mea­ assistance for all State Sector pro­ sures proposed to improve conditions grammes (including Housing) is in these areas’ given to the State Governments in the shape of “block loans” and “block THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE grants”. This block Central assist­ MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND ance is not related to any individual IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS scheme, project or head of develop­ PATEL): (a) and (b). The informa­ ment. The State Governments aie tion has been called for from the free to determine the programme? to State Government and it will be laid be implemented, and the funds to be on the Table of the Sabha as soon as allocated for different State Sector it is received. Schemes according to the requirements and priorities to be determined by them. Annual Budget for Housing Schemes (b) The Government of Orissa for lower and middle income groups, have distributed 15,652 house-sites to SC/ST landless workers m rural areas upto 31st March, 1976. 3617. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the (c) The scheme for provision of Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING house-sites to landless workers in be pleased to state: rural areas which is one of the items (a) whether Central Government in the 20-Point Economic Programme have any annual budget for housing was discussed in the Chief Ministers’ Conference held at Delhi on the 5th schemes for people belonging to lower and the th March, 1976. All the income group, Scheduled Castes and 6 Scheduled Tribes and middle-income Chief Ministers were requested to give high priority to the implementa­ group; tion of the scheme. (b) if so, amounts spent on these (d) No separate scheme for cons­ Schemes since 1973-74 to 1975-76; and truction of houses for Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes has been in­ (c) number of houses constructed troduced by this Ministry. However, under the above mentioned schemes jjjersons belonging to the Scheduled during the same period in West Ben­ Castes/Scheduled Tribes can derive gal, Bihar and Assam? benefits under the existing Social Housing Schemes introduced by the TKQE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Ministry of Works and Housing, which HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY *1 Wrt ttm Annwr, VAISAKHA 20. 18M (SAKA) Written Anver, 6a

AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHURA- in the shape of ‘block loans’ and *block MAIAH): (a) and (b). There jg grants'. The State Governments are only one Housing Scheme in the Cen­ free to earmark funds for various tral Sector viz. Subsidised Housing State sector Schemes, including Hous­ Scheme for Plantation Workers for ing according to their requirements which provision is made la the Cen­ and priorities to be determined by tral Budget. The Scheme is imple­ them. mented by the concerned State Gov­ ernments. The following amounts (c) Based on the progress reports were released to them during the last received from the State Governments, three years. a statement showing the number of houses built in Assam, Bihar and West Bengal under the Low Income Year Amount released (Rs. in lakhs) Group Housing Scheme, Middle In­ come Group Housing Scheme and the Subsidised Housing Scheme for Plan­ 1973-74 . 50*30 tation Workers is attached. There is 1974-75 • 8o*oo no separate Housing Scheme for Sche­ duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. 1975-76. Statement All other social housing schemes in­ Statement showing the number of troduced by the Ministry of Works houses built during the period 1973- and Housing are in the State Sector. 74 to 1975-76 under the Low Income Central financial assistance for all Group Housing Scheme, Middle In­ State sector programmes, including come Group Housing Scheme and Housing, is released by the Ministry Subsidised Housing Scheme for Plan­ of Finance to the State Governments tation Workers.

SI. Name of State Number of houses buit urder Remarks No. Low Middle Subsidised Income Income Housing Group Group Scheme Housing Housing^ for Scheme Scheme Plantation Workers.

x Assam • 24 15 2397 164 houses have been built for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. 2 Bihar . 1134 242 Notimpl- 15% of the house lemen- constructed under ting different the social housing Scheme. schemes are rese­ rved for Scheduled Castes and Sche­ duled Tribes. 3 West Bengal. 1077 320 1047 5% of the house constructed ur der different social housing schemes are reserved for Scheduled Castes and Sche dulcd Tribes. 63 Written Answers MAY 10,197® Written Answers

M WHmmn Berolopmettt Agene? tiet, a number of States have not fulfilled the essential conditions; and 3618. SHRI SAKTI KUMAR SAB- KAR: (c) if so, reasons therefor? SHRI TUNA ORAON: SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE* MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ PATEL): (a) The main objectives of TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased Fish Farmers Development Agencies to state: are to promote fish production from (a) work done under Fish Farmers ponds and tanks in an integrated man. Development Agency in the States, ner linking training ana investment State-wise, with location, objective with fish culture activities and mar­ and the fulfilment of the objectives keting. by the present FFDA; The following Fish Farmers Deve­ (b) whether inspite of administra­ lopment Agencies have been set up so tive sanction for setting up the agen- far:—

State District Location

I West Bei grl . Burdwan BurdWan 2 Wist Bengal . Wist Dirajpur West Dirajpur. 3 Bihar . Champaran Motihari 4 Madhya Pradtsh . . Raipur Dhamiari 5 Karrataka . . . Mysore 6 Uttar Pradesh . Jaurpur Jaurpur 7 Orissa . . Gar jam Bcrhampur 8 Rajasthan . Bhilwara Bhilwara 9 Gujarat . Surat Surat 10 Purjab .... . Gurdaspur Gurdaspur ii Haryara . Karral Karral 12 Kerala .... . Palghat Palghat 13 TpnylNadu . Thar javur Thar javur 14 Tripura . South Tripura Udaipur

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The Agencies are engaged in train­ from banks for reclamation of water ing of fishermen and development of areas. the water areas allotted to them for (b) The State Governments have fish culture activities. Wherever since fulfilled the essential conditions. necessary, loans are being arranged (c) Does not arise. 6 $ Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 66

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AFFAIRS (SHRI K RAGHU- tor Subsidised Housing Scheme for RAMAIAH): (a) The following Plantation Workers and the Scheme amounts were released to the State for Provision of House-sites to Land­ Governments under the Central Sec­ less Workers in Rural Areas:— (Rs. on lakhs)

Year Amount released under

Subsidised Housing Scheme Scheme for Provision of House for Plantaion Workers sites to Landless Worker in Rural Areas.

1972-73 .... 49*74 438-97 1973-74 .... 50-30 290-99 *974-75 .... 8o-oo This Scheme w*s transferred to the State Sector with effect from 1st April, 1974.

All other social housing schemes in­ sports compulsory in all the schools troduced by the Ministry of Works for girls; and and Housing are in the State Sector. Central financial assistance for all (b) if so, salient features thereof? State Sector Programmes, including Housing, is released by the Ministry THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of Finance to the State Governments MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND in the shape of ‘block loans’ and SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE 'block grants’. The Stats Govern­ DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI ments are free to earmark funds for D. P. YADAV): (a) School education various State Schemes, including is a State subject. State Governments Housing, according to the require­ can take a decision about making ments and priorities to be determin­ sports compulsory for girls in all ed by th«m. schools from this academic year. How­ ever. the present position is that physi­ (b) According to the information cal education is an integral part of the furnished by the Government of Uttar school curriculum and provided for in Pradesh, 8387 houses were constructed the time table for every class though by them under various Social Housing it may not be an examination subject. Schemes during these years. (b) Does not arise. (c) 2,02,741 people belonging to weaker sections of rural areas were given house-sites in Uttar Pradesh Water Scarcity in Tfisr Desert since the proclamation of emergency. 3623. SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH Compulsory sports for girls in schools CHAUDHARY; Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION 3622. SHRIMATI PARVATHI be pleased to state whether under­ KRISHNAN; Will the Minister of ground water reservoirs are to be EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE created by nuclear explosions to meet AND CULTURE be pleased to state: water scarcity of ? (a) whether Government propose THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to take steps in this year to make MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND <$9 Written Answer* VAXSAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

IRRIGATION (SHJU SHAHNAWAZ Evaluation of wotk and progress of KHAN): No such proposal is under Nehru Ynvak Kendras consideration of this Ministry at this •lace. 3625. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas­ ed 1o state: Hmft if ftnn# # t o n ftw WTOT (a) whether Government have made any evaluation of work and progress of Nehru Yuvak Kendras; and 3621. w t w r : «mr (b) if so, what are the findings? Ann, w w w w dV * «'f\?r*T?5fr ^ FTT aFT»T IV : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI ( * ) w far^ft *?f w ^ wet D. P. YADAV): (a) and (b) An in­ *rr ftreSr mend measures for an integrated and *rlfv^9|T^| I honoured bank cheques, etc; and (c) action taken in the matter? 71 Written Answers MAY 10, 1978 Written Answers

THE MINISTER OP EDUCATION, Layimg of sewer lines in Jaaakporl, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Delhi (PROP. S. NURUL HASAN): (a) Amount of grants released to the Insti­ 3627. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: tute varies from year to year, depend. Will the Minister of WORKS AND Ing upon the requirements of the In­ HOUSING be pleased to state; stitute and the availability of Central funds. During the year 1975-76 Cen­ (a) whether large amount was mis­ tral Government released Rs. 56.26 appropriated and misutilized m cons* lakhs to the Institute, of which truction of sewer lines m Janakpuri, Rs. 11.63 lakhs was towards non-re­ Delhi; curring expenditure and Rs. 44.63 lakhs (b) whether these sewer lines were for recurring expenditure. either not laid according to the ap­ proved maps or laying was falsely reported;

(b) and (c). The Report of the (c) whether Government have ask­ Special Inspection conducted by the ed the Investigation Agencies to in­ Office of the Accountant General, Cen­ vestigate this matter; and tral, Calcutta for the year 1073-74 re­ ceived m September, 1975, pointed out (d) whether any departmental action many irregularities, similar to these is also being taken against defaulters? which had been indicated in earlier years. The Board of Governors at its THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND meeting held in February, 1974, took HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY a serious view of these irrigularities AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU- and decided to initiate a thorough RAMAIAH): (a) No, Sir. probe and investigation by the Central Bureau of Investigation and to stream­ (b) The sewer linos were laid ac­ line the entire department of accounts cording to the maps approved from and cash and the administration. On time to time by the technical sanction­ the basis of the investigation, the ing authority. C.B.I. decided to prosecute the then Assistant Accountant and Cashier. (c) and (d) The question does not The Assistant Accountant is no longer arise. in the service of the Institute, but the Cashier has been suspended The C.B I. have liuncliei prosecution Export of Barley and Gram pgainst both of them. The prosecution is in progress. 3628. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO. Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state whether there is any proposal In order to streamline the financial to permit the export of Barley and and administration procedures, the In­ Gram for which demand exist in the stitute appointed a sub-Committee to foreign countries and they are surplus look inlo the administration and ac­ to local requirements7 counting system of the Institute. The Sub-Committee has submitted its report which was considered by the Board THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of Governors at its meeting held on MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND 6th May, 1976, and the Board accepted IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. the recommendations of the Committee SHINDE): A quota of 25,000 tonnes has and desired that a time bound pro­ been fixed for export of barley during gramme for implementation of the the licensing period April 1976 Id recommendations be drawn up and the March 1977. During the same period, progress reported from time to time. only one variety of gram namely Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 ( SAKA) Written Answers 74 jgulab i gram along with certain other (b) whether no lady principals have specified varieties of pulses is allowed been promoted though they were to be exported within an overall ceil* senior to certain male principals who ing of 5000 tonnes. have been promoted and there were also State Awardee lady principals; Calf Subsidy Scheme in Kerala and

3629. SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR: (c) if so. what action Government Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE propose to take in the matter? AND IRRIGATION be pleased to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE state; MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND (m) whether Government of Kerala SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE have requested the Central Govern­ DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI ment that the Calf Subsidy Scheme D. P. YADAV)- (a) Yes, Sir. may be implemented throughout the State; and (b) Four lady principals were pro­ moted and out of them two were State (b) if so, decision taken thereon by Awardees. the Central Government? (c) Does not arise. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Schemes submitted by Kshetrabasi IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS D.A.V. College, Nirakarpur PATEL): (a) and (b). Proposals for Calf Subsidy Scheme in the districts 36in. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- of Trichuy and Trivandrum as sub­ GRAHI: Will the Minister of EDUCA­ mitted by the State Government have TION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL­ been sanctioned. Detailed proposals TURE be pleased to state; for extending the scheme to the re­ maining districts of the State are (a) whether the U.G.C. has approved awaited from the State Government. the various schemes submitted by Kshetrabasi D.A.V. College, Nirakar- pur under Utkal University in Orissa; Promotion to Education Officers in Education Directorate, Delhi (b) if so, whether the money has been released for those projects; and 3630. SHRI CHANDRA BHAL MANI TIWAiRI; Will the Minister of EDU­ (c) names of the schemes approved? CATION. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (a) whether recently some promo- (PROF. S. NURUL HASAN); (a) to (c). tions of Principals to the rank of The University Grants Commission Education Officers in the Directorate has approved and released development of Education Delhi have been made; grants for the under-mentioned 75 Written Answers MAY 10, 1976 Written Answers 76 schemes to DA.V. College, Nirakarpur (Utkal University) during IV Plan: —

S.No. Project/Purpose Grart Grart approved paid

Rs. Rs. 1 Book Grant (1969 -70) . • * • 3,000 3,000 2 4*500 3 Text Book Library 4,ooo 4 Basic Grant for Library Bocks • I . 3,000 3,000 5 Laboratory Equipment . . 15,000 15,000 6 Students Welfare Programme . 2,000 7 Ncm-Residnet Students'Centre 23,000

Besides, the College has been receiv­ of raw cashew within four or five ing assistance from the Commission years; and for establishment of students' aid fund. The admissible grants under students (b) if so, facts thereof? aid fund and Book Bank have also THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE been paid to the College during the MINISTRY OP AGRICULTURE AND current Plan period. The balance grant for Non-Resident Students' IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS PATEL): (a) No. Centre would be released on receipt of completion documents and the College (b) The projected demand of raw has been requested to expedite the cashewnuts at the end of V Plan is same. 7,20,000 tonnes Against this indigen­ ous production at the beginning of V The development proposals of the Plan was estimated at 1,40,000 tonnes. College for V Plan period could not, Although all possible measures are however, be accepted by the Commis­ being taken to step up the indigenous sion as the College does not have the production of raw nuts, yet there Is required number of students in degree likely to be a gap between demand classes. The college is being advised and supply at the end of V Plan. to apply when it fuftls the required condition regarding enrolment and faculty strength as indicated in the Water supply and sanitation p ro| ta » guidelines issued by the University mes approved by Central Public Health Grants Commission. and Environmental Engineering Organisation

Self-sufficiency in Casheimat 3633, SHRI RAM PiRAKASH; Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOU&. ING be pleased to state; 3632. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI THAN- KAPPAN: Will the Minister of AGRI­ CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be (a) whether Central Public Health, pleased to state: and Environmental Engineering Orga­ nisation has given technical approval (a) whether the country is likely to a number of water supply and sani­ to be self-sufficient in the production tation programmes; and T j Written Answers VA1SAKHA 20, 1888 (SAKAX Written Answers

(b) if 80, the location of the British weekly journal entitled, Schemes and the total amount sanc­ 'Nature’, in its January 3, 1975 issue. tioned so far? The above mentioned research unit THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at Sussex University is engaged in MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUS­ basic research into nitrogen fixation ING (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT): (a) which means conversion of elementary Yes, Sir. nitrogen of the atmosphare into am­ monia or other forms, easily assimilat­ ed by plants. The various aspects of (b) Since the launching of the Na­ nitrogen fixation, ranging from pure tional Water Supply an

Department handling cash of more than seventy thousand rupees per (v) 1975-76 month are allowed special pay of Rs. 30/- whereas they are entitled to f r w t f faRfffTWT^r 8«T; Bs. 40/- as per Government of India orders; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (sr) sr?3w *r fw fft *rr?rT S? fwrfa f w w r ; (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken by Government to grant them special pay according to the cash handled by them? (*) fwfcf % f a w sr^r Tifirr sFsrcr tfr THE MINISTER OP WORKS AND HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU- RAMAIAH); (a) According to the ex­ (sr) s w 5? fafvr* faw isting Government orders, subject to ann^; % *?i*r their having furnished security, the vrrvnhnfir i cashiers are entitled to Rs. 30/- P.M. If the amount of average monthly cash disbursed is between Rs. 20,001/- to Rs. 50,000/- and Rs. 401- p.m. if the «i\r faranf *r*rew if w - Rs. 50,000/- and Rs. 1,00,000/-. These «nr> («rV *rp*. : (m) fafasr monthly disbursement is between orders are being followed in the TT^t%( fsRT^SffSTSr^^’T^nTcf,^ CPWD also. rrfMwrs If, 1975- 76% (b) and (c). Do not arise. ?f«rrar % ^t*rRPT % «r$*rw xmtr, 1 9 7 6 % Wrwwsrior^li cT«TTfV, STTE* ST^r, TVam ffpCRT^ITf 3636. TTo TOFifcrrTPW Wtitf : 1974-75 %fVwrrf^T^ *7T $f«r w h !T? ^ fffvmrr swsft ?ft% $qT Of : f?*rr tot f 1

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International Kabaddi Tournament in sion of Kabaddi in the Olympic Calcutta fames? 3637. SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: Will THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE to state: DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI ARVIND NETAM); (a) to (c) It has (a) whether International Kabaddi been reported by the Amateur Kabaddi Tournament Is proposed to be held in Federation of India that it has autho­ Calcutta in November, 1976; rised the West Bengal Kabaddi Asso­ (b) if so, how many countries bavu ciation to hold an International Kaba­ agreed to take part; and ddi Tournament in Calcutta in Novem­ ber, 1976. The latter is reported to (c) whether Indian Olympic Asso­ have inviied Kabaddii teams from ciation propose to plead to the Inter­ Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangaladesh an

meat. Confirmation about partipa- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion ol Kabaddi teams from Nepal, MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Sri Lanka and Bangladesh has re­ IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB R portedly been received by the West SHINDE): (a) to (c). The Uttar Pra­ Bengal Kabaddi Association, desh Roller Flour Miilersf Association have submitted a memorandum inter According to the Indian Olympic alia requesting for reduction in the Association there is no proposal to issue price of wheat, permission for move the International Olympic Com­ export of maida to neighbouring States mittee for the inclusion of Kabaddi in and freedom to vary extraction per­ the Olympic Games. centages of wheat products etc. Similar representations have also been receiv­ Shifting of Central Reference Library ed from Roller Flour Mills/Associa­ from Calcutta to Delhi tions in other parts of the country. The points raised by Uttar Pradesh 3638. SHRI S. N. SINGH DEO: Will Roller Flour Millers’ Association are the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL under the consideration of Government. WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas­ ed to state: (a) whether Government have de­ cided to shift the Central Reference * Library from Calcutta to Delhi, and 3640. ito : (b) if so, reasons thereof? wrfrwr, WWVRW THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TRfrw f r r r ^ fo r • MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI (V) JPTTTOR ^ TTRff w t w - D. P. YADAV); (a) No, Sir.

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3644. ®ft «WT 1W # W : f*rr Officer* bekmgfnff to S. C. ft S. T. tat Education 1©ep**tme«t> Delhi f f * ftwif i * t AimtnlatwUhm 3646. SHRI AMBESH; Will the Min­ ister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WEL­ (*P) *WT *TST S»tar ^ FT *TT ^ FARE AND CULTURE be pleased to tit mf: n?r?w ift§?rcr state: $ nrfspp ? w ir«fTr»rt | ; %ft* (a) number of class I and class R efflcers in the Education Department {w) sfa $t, ?ft w % «wt m m Delhi Administration, Delhi; f ? (fa) number of the Scheduled Caste* and Scheduled Tribes officers out of ffil ifct ftfwif *bww if w - the above; and «nft («rft jwrre

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ifV w tiror % «rr§rt < this embankment scheme is going to be started very soon. -**r %*r%fvf*r, p r % ^ s^rr^ff apt smrfj^T ft sncftt The State Government have now ^ t t *Fj§fa?r 3rrf5r/«7^rf^y ** prepared a drainage scheme compris­ ing of providing anti-flood-sluice$ in wr% %ijfagta vpfor *ra^Knr- the culverts and bridges in the P.W.D. 'f^t? & VPfit ^TBEfT $> I road and a marginal embankment on 20 gsft *Ttfav tff «fW0TT % the right bank of the river Ganga at an estimated cost of Rs. 214 lakhs. This IK f*?tf|r TPr vf 4485 scheme is currently under examina­ w t wnrfor ^ fvr % tion in the Ganga Flood Control Com­ mission. Taking up the execution of 2353 ef<3i'«r> wH fo.{ *r*T I this scheme will depend upon the fwr^r srrfww % sfrsrsrr^T clearance of the scheme by the Plann. '•*f5ft % 20 ^ srifa*? vrfa*r % ing Commission as well as availability of funds in the State Plan for the * w*mr cm Sffsrfa tffafiwrscheme tft syrcwr fw r | i srrftr^or wft srrantffar zffarcrsfr *f 25 sro sto t it o •?r*n erremfhr c*rr?ft *f>T*fr 25ffo*ro Flood Preventlon-cnm-Irrigation Schemes in Bihar tt vf 35f:wwr*nr| t to the reply given to Unstarred Ques­ tion No. 1531 on the 29th March. 1976 regarding flood prevenlion-cum-irriga- ®rainage--cum-Irriga,tion Scheme for tion schemes in Bihar and stales: Fatuha-Mokama-Barliya Tai (a) whether there is any proposal to construct a barrage at Nautha over 3649. SHRI RAMAVATAR SIIASTRI river Bagmati in the Nepalese terri­ 'Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE tory and have an integrated flood AND IRRIGATION be pleased to control-cum-irrigation project over refer to the reply given to Starred the Adhawara Group of rivers ins­ Question No 193 on 3rd March, 1975 tead of an isolated flood control regarding projects to control floods scheme; and and increase agricultural production (b) if so, outline thereof? in Bihar and state the present posi­ tion of the Fatuha-Mokama-Barliya Tal project and the time by which THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Government propose to implement the IRRIGATION (SHRI KEDAR NATH projects’ SINGH): (a) and (b). As stated in reply to part (a) of Unstarred Question THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE No. 1531 answered in Lok Sabha on MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND 29th March, 1976 the State Government IRRIGATION (SHRI KEDAR NATH have not formulated any proposal for SINGH): The Punpun embankment irrigation from the Adhwara Group of scheme with an estimated cost of Rs. rivers However after protecting the 77 lakhs has been approved by the area from floods of Bagmati river the Planning Commission for implementa­ State Government propose to construct tion. The State Government have a barrage on the Bagmati at Ram reported that the construction work on Nagar (India) for irrigation purpose*. 97 W tVtm Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 9S

Iiido-Ktfilese Acoora for Emlwiik* fe s -fe ntft | 1 afaor * m eat* over River Kamala ?**im ^ $ 1 3651. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Minister of AGtRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to refer v r f w t 1 % to the reply given to Unstarred ®TC«To qgo fFR) : (*f) arrangement for rural credit to poor villagers and artisans ^ (*)• v tw s in the content of liquidation arsfaff anrr 5T»mnT tr of rural indebtedness. 766 LS— 4 99 Written Answers MAY 10.lffM Written A nw m lo o

The scheme, envisaged of mobilisa­ Service Cooperative Sodetieaout®* tion of deposits, to 20 crores through 1731 societies. The campaign was credit institutions by the end of carried out by the societies with active April, 1976. For this purpose, the association o£ Government officials, following action was envisaged: political parties and social workers and involved house to house canvas* 1. The various Committees at vil­ sing. Target were fixed for each lage level, taluka level, district level society and for each district. The and .State level were proposed to be targets were exceeded by 28th April, set up for canvassing of deposit mobi­ 1976. lisation scheme to fill the credit gap arising out of the implementation by the State Government of the measures Central Assistance for Poor Land contemplated in the 20-Point Pro­ Allottees in U. P. gramme. 3654. SHRI K. M. ‘MADHUKAR*: 2. To pursue the campaign on a day Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE tti day basis and to review its pro­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to gress on a weekly basis a small steer­ state: ing Committee consisting of the presi­ (a) whether Central assistance has dent, Kerala State Cooperative Bank been sought for poor land allottees in Ltd.,; Chairman, State Cooperative Uttar Pradesh on terms similar to Union, Secretary to Government, those of the Small Farmers Develop­ Planning Department, Registrar of ment Agency Programme; and Cooperative Societies and Secretary, Kerala State Cooperative Bank was (b) if so, Government’s response proposed to be set up. thereto?

3. It was proposed to collect infor­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN mation relating to the position of de­ THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE posits in each institution as on 31st AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNA- March, 1976 immediately after the SHEB P. SHINDE): (a) and (b). close of the month and regarding the Under the Fifth Five Year Plan a progress in collecting deposits every central sector scheme for Rs. 25 week thereafter. This will enable the crores has been initiated with a view Bank and the State Government to to providing short term and long issue suitable press releases regarding term assistance to the allottees of sur­ the progress of the campaign from plus land mopped by the implementa­ time to time. tion of land ceiling laws. The short term assistance is of the order of 4. The State Cooperative Banks Rs. 250 per hectare per season admis­ were to formulate suitable guidlines sible to the allottees for the first two for lending covering all aspects such agricultural seasons. It is intended as purposes to be financed, quantum to provide them with inputs for culti­ of loan, security, interest documenta­ vation as well as the wherewithal of tion etc., with the help of steering their consumption. A proportion of committees in consultation with the the allotted land has to be developed representatives of the District Central before it can be brought under the Cooperative Banks and the Primary plough. For this purpose long term Cooperative Banks. assistance at the rate, of Rs. 50ft per hectare is given to eligible allottees. Under the scheme an all-out effort Half of this is by way* of grant **nd was made by .the Kerala State Co­ the other half by way of loan. operative Bank. 11 District Coopera­ tive Banks and their 119 branches, 41 The Government of Uttar Pradesh Urban Cooperative Banks and iheir 18 has asked for assistance under this branches and 1000 selected Primary scheme. So far a sum of Rfe. d,4fe,000 *QI Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1808 (SAKA) Written Answers lea has be en sanctioned to the State Gov­ IAH) (a) The Low Income Group ernment under this scheme. Housing Scheme forms part ol the State Sector programmes. From Statewide Central Assistance for Cons­ beginning of the Fourth Five Year truction of Houses for Low-Income Plan, i.e., 1st April, 1969, Central Group assistance for all State Sector Pro­ grammes (including Housing) is 3655. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: given to the State Governments in the Will thes Minister of WORKS AND shape of ‘block loans’ and ‘block HOUSING be pleased to state: gants’. This block Central assistance is not related to any individual (a) how much money Central Gov­ scheme, project or head of develop­ ernment have sanctioned till now for ment. The State Governments are constructing houses for people in low free to determine the programmes to income Group, State-wise during be implemented, and the funds to be 1972-73, 1974-75 and 1975-76; and allocated for different State Sector Schemes according to the require­ (b) how many houses were built ments and priorities to be determined during this period for the low income by them. group people, State-wise? (b) A statement giving the requisi­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND te information which is based on the HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY progress reports received from the AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RAMA- State Governments so far is attached.

Statement Statement showing the number of Houses built during 1972-73, 1974-75 and 1975-76

SI. N m of Sute *972-73 1974-75 1975-76 No.

I Andhra Piad'sh R' portnol Rcpoit recdvid nor icccived 2 Assam Nil 7 3 Bihar 129 150 Report not received 4 Guiarat R( port not Do. rectiv< d ri ccivcd 5 Haryana 133 Do. 6 H'lmchal Piad-sh . Do. 139 8lX 7 Jamm1 & Kashm r 190 254 126 8 K*rala 235 223 9 Madhya Pradesh 644 669 394 10 Miharashtra Repoitrot Report not rcceivcd rectivid VI 5S* rcctivid Written Annoer* MAY 10, 1976 'Written. Amuten 104

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X2 Meghalaya Nil IX IS 13 Karnataka 747 102 94 14 Ngaland 229 2J2 80

ij Orissa 70 27 R< port not re ct ivt d 16 Punjab . Report not 484 5«3 recuvtd 17 Rajasthan 530 80 Re port net rcotivt d

18 Tamil Nadu 240 294 1,380 19 Uttar Pradesh 209 1439 99 20 West Bengal 230 348 5 Tripura 12 2 5

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Water Development Corporation* Corporations also handle public lift irrigation projects and work relating 3656. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will to lining of water courses in the com­ the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND mand of canals. IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (b) Yes Sir, the Ministry of Agri­ (a) whether some States have set culture have been encouraging setting up State Water Development Corpo­ up of such Corporations so that these ration or like organisation for cons­ Corporations are able to run these truction, maintenance and operation of Schemes on commercial lines and to Public tube wells; obtain institutional credit from the commercial banks and Agricultural (b) if so, whether Union Govern­ Refinance and Development Corpora­ ment are encouraging other States and tion etc, for taking up new projects. Union-territories too to set up such (c) No Sir, Financial support to organisations; and these Corporations in addition to the credit mobilised from institutional (c) whether to encourage these or­ sources, is to be provided by the ganisations Government propose to State Governments from within the give some grants to the concerned provisions in the State Plans, State Governments? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE However, under the Command Area MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE Development Programme in selected AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAH- irrigation projets which have been NAWAZ KHAN): (a) Yes Sir, the taken up during the Fifth Five Year States of Punjab, Haryana, Bihar, Plan, to encourage the conjunctive use West Bengal, Orissa and Andhra Pra­ of surface and ground-water, it has desh have set up corporations tor con­ been decided recently to give Central struction, maintenance and operation assistance, from the Command Area of public tubewelfs. Some of these Dev. Grant, in the shape of contribu- l o j Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers I06

lion to the equity of State Corpora­ National Research Laboratory far tions dealing with development of Conservation of Cultural Property .groundwater, or as loan assistance for purchase of equipment for execution 3658. SHRI R. S. PANDEY: Will of groundwater development schemes. the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL 'This assistance would be of one kind WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased and not both. to state: (a) whether a National Research Laboratory for conservation of cultu­ Fay Scales of Field Inspectors ii ral property has been set up by Gov­ Settlement Organisation ernment; and (b) if so, main features thereof? 3657. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND RE­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE HABILITATION be pleased to refer MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND to the reply given to the Unstarrei SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE Question No. 1518 on the 29th March, DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI 1976 regarding Pay Scales of Field D. P. YADAV): (a) and (b). In order Inspectors in Settlement Organisa­ to conduct basic scientific research in tion and state: devising improved methods for con­ servation of cultural property, initial (a) whether the Field Inspectors steps for establishing a national re. who have been fixed in three different search laboratory for conservation of Pay Scales, have to perform identical cultural property have already Keen duties; taken. Further steps are under way to make the laboratory operative. The (b) if so, reasons for providing three research work of the laboratory will separate scales for these Field Ins­ cover the dating of archaeological pectors; objects, technical study by physical and chemical means and conservation

(b) A proposal to start the courses (a) whether no Communal Roster i* in (i) B.Sc. (Engg.) Mining (5-year), being maintained in the Government r Schedul­ (S year) and (iii) M.Sc. Applied Gees ed Caste and Scheduled Tribe em* logy <2 year) at the Regional Engi- ployees in accordance to the direction neering College, Hourkela was receiv­ of the Home Ministry; ed from the State Government ot Orissa. ' (b) if so, the specific reasons there­ for; (o) Due to serious situation of un­ employment of Mining Engineering (c) number of such employees pro­ Graduates during 1968, the admission moted during the last three years*, to degree courses was reduced from category-wise; original intake of 305 to 80. In view of somewhat improved employment (d) number of employees belonging situation, the Joint Board of Mining to Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Engineering Education and Training Tribe whose probation period have in 1974 reviewed the question and ad­ been extended; and vised that the intake be increased to 260, even though the facilities for ad­ (e) specific reasons therefor? missions to 305 seats are available in the existing institutes. The entire question of Mining Engineering edu­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cation is being reviewed in consulta­ MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUS­ tion with All India Council for Tech­ ING (SHRI H. K. L BHAGAT): (a) nical Education in the light of mid­ Communal Roster is being maintained term appraisal of 5th Five Year Plan. in the Government of India Press, Ring Road, New Delhi. Maintenance of Communal Roster in (b) The question does not arise; Government o f India Press, Ring Road, New Delhi (c). The number of employees be­ longing to the Schedule Castes and 3660. SHRI ARJUN SETHI: Will Scheduled Tribes, promoted during the the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ last three years ending on 31st March, ING be pleased to state: 1976, is as follows:—

Category Sc'icduleed Castts Scheduled Tribts Assistant Inspector (Control) 1 • • 2. Upper Division Clerk , . . s 2 3. Dafiry .... 2 4. Sanitary Jamadar .... I 5, Head Reader .... I 6. Machine man Gr. Ill . . . I I 7. Mechanic (Lino) .... I 8. Machine Inker .... 2 9. Proof Pressman Grade II , I .. 10 Section Holder (Case) , . 1

T otal 16 3 109 Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers n o

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Standards tlr Admission to Higher tion as far as minimum qualifying Institutions examination for admission is concern- ed. 3664. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL The information regarding conces­ WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas­ sion given to other backward classes ed to state: is being collected and will be placed on the table of the House. (a) whether the standards set for certain categories of students for ad­ (b) No Sir. mission to higher institutions of tech­ (c) Does not arise. nical study vary much from those prescribed for the rest, and, if so, the facts thereof; Adulteration of Milk Bottles of Delhi (b) whether similar consideration is Milk Scheme also shown for award of Degrees and, if so, the facts thereof; and 3665. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA: Will (c) how is the quality of end pro­ the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND duct ensured to be of real use to the IRRIGATION be pleased to state: community from such type of Degree holders? (a) whether these is any effective THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, machinery in D.M.S, Organisation to SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE check unauthorised sale of milk bot­

(b) it so, measures taken in this re­ (a) how many irrigation projects gard? are still to be completed in Mahavash- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tra since Third Five Year Plan; and MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND (b) how many other irrigation pro- IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS 'jects have been completed by 1974-75V PATEL): (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. The functioning ot the milk depots run by THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the D.M.S. is inspected and supervis­ MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND ed by 23 Field Officers who, besides IRRIGATION (SHRI KEDAR NATH reutine inspection, carry out surprise SINGH): (a) 1 major irrigation pro­ checking in orders to detect malprac­ ject spilled over into the Thiid Five tices. To supplement the efforts of Year Plan from the Second Plan. the Inspecting staff, DMS had sought During the Third Five Plan, 3 Annual the cooperation of the token holders Plans and the Fourth Five Year Plan to ensure streamlined distribution of periods, 13 major and 39 medium milk ot the milk depots. 205 Depot projects were taken up in the State of Advisory Committees have been Maharashtra. During the same period, organised and registered by the DMS 2 major (including the major spilled while rationalised distribution of milk over Scheme from II plan) and 31 has been adopted at 938 depots. This medium ~ projects were completed, has considerably helped in eliminating leaving 11 major medium schemes as malpractices like unauthorised sale ot spill over schemes into the Fifth Plan. milk by the depot staff. Cross check­ ing of milk tokens with ration c -trds (b) During 1974-75, 33 new medium and other authentic documents has projects were approved. During this helped to eliminate unauthorised year 2 major and 2 medium schemes tokens and about 31,000 unauthorised were substantially completed from tokens have been seized and cancel­ amongst the on-going schemes led. The DMS also has a complaint cell which works round the clock and all complaints received on telephone Fixation of Prices of Agricultural or in writing are promptly enquired Products into and remedial action is taken wherever necessary. Deterrent action 3667. SHRIMATI ROZA DESH- is taken against defaulting depot PANDE: Will the Minister of AGRI* agents. CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: As regards complaints about adul- ternation of milk, DMS had received (a) whether while addressing the six complaints during the year f-nding Indian Farm Education Foundation, 31st March, 1976 out of which one the Prime Minister said that high related to depot staff and the remain­ prices for foodgraing have adverse ing 5 related to home-delivery a&ents effects; and who are not employees of the DMS. In cases where home delivery .agents (b) if so, how far this would affect were involved, the DMS advised the the fixing of the prices of agricultural token holders to appoint alternative products particularly wheat, paddy agents to collect milk from the DMS and pulses? milk booths. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Irrigation Projects in Maharashtra IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNASAHEB P. 3666. SHRIMATI ROZA DESH- SHINDE): (a) and (b): The Prime PANDE: Will the Minister of AGRI­ Minister had stated that the prices of CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be agricultural produce cannot be main­ pleased to state: tained at the high levels reached Written Answers MAY 10, 1978 Written Answers during periods of scracity and auy (c) when the work of the pattel is undue increase m prices of foodgrams likely to be completed and how Gov­ has inflationary impact on the gene ernment propose to regulate construc­ ral price level which does not benefit tion of residential houses in Delhi the farmers These aspects have under various authorities such as been kept in view in fixing procure D D A , M C D , NDMC and Canton­ ment/support prices for wheat paddy ment Board till such time the panel and gram which have to be remunera­ submits its recommendations? tive for the farmer but not too high THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND as to have an inflationary effect on the HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY general price level AFFAIRS (SHRI K RAGHU- RAMAIAH) (a) and (b) A Panel was constituted on 19th November, Unified Building bye-laws for Delhi 1975, under the aegis of the Indian Standard Institution to formulate unified building bye-laws for the Union 3668 SHRI NAWAL KISHORE Territory The constitution of the SINHA Will the Minister of WORKS Penel is given m the attched State­ AND HOUSING be pleased to state ment (a) whether Government have con­ (c) The Panel has completed its stituted a panel under the aegis of work and finalised the draft which has the Indian Standards Institution to already been sent to the concerned formulate unified building bye-laws authorities for adoption Till such for the Union territory of Delhi, time the unified Bye-laws are notified, the existing Bye-laws of the respec­ (b) if so, when and who are the tive local bodies will continue to be members of the panel ? and in force

Statement Panel was constituted with the following membtrship i Mi) Gin Hirkirat Singh (Chairman) , Representing Guiding Cimmittu for Na' nonal Building Codt 2 Shri J R Bhalla Indian Institute of Architects

3 Sim H U Bulani Delhi Municipal Corporation Shri G R Ambwam Shri R P Pande

4 Shn V V Bodas Dtlhi Development Authority. Shri A K Karmatkar

5 Shn V P Chetal New Delhi Municipal Committee. Shn V N Vasudtva Shn R C Sabharwal

6 Shn P B Rao Town & Country Planning Orgenusiicr. 7 Shn R S Sundaiam Delhi Fire Service. Shn S P Bafra

8. Dr II C Visvesvaraya Institution of Engineers (Ir c i \ 9 Shri D Ajitha Simha Indian Standard Instil ui cn Shn V. Suresh 1*7 Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1898 {SAKA) Written Answers n $

StgHnrt submitted bjr Kosi Board of Maintenance of Priee Line of Food- Consnlteats gralns for whole Year 3669. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: 3670. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to AND IRRIGATION be plea>ed to state: state:’ (a) whether a Kosi Board of Consul­ (a) latest position with regard to tants was constituted by Government the procurement of paddy, wheat and of Bihar which submitted its report other important foodgrains by the va­ through a note dated the 4th Septem­ rious States or Central official or semi­ ber, 1974; official agencies, State-wise; and (b) if so, main features thereof and Government’s reaction thereon; and (b) steps being taken to maintain the price line of foodgrains for the (c) whether it is being proposed to whole year at the present level so implement the suggestions of the above that the needy peasants having made Board and if so, particulars thereof? distress sale are not later fleeced as THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE consumers? MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1HE. IRRIGATION (SHRI KEDAR SATH MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNA- (b) and (c) It has been suggested SAHEB P. SHINDE: (a) A state­ that necessary surveys and invest’ga- ment is attached. tions to up-to date the Project for construction of a High Dam on the (b) In order to maintain the price Kosi river at Barahkshetra be carried line of foodgrains the Govmment out. have already taken a number of The proposed dam site is located in measures like stepping up of the pub­ the Nepal territory and approval of lic distribution of foodgrains, dehoard­ His Maj asty's Government of Nepal ing of stocks and enforcing general would be necessary before undertak­ fiscal and monetary discipline. Be- ing the necessary surveys. Efforts arc sidest a sizeable buffer stock of food­ being made to take up the matter with grains is being maintained to ensure the His Majesty's Government of stablisation of prices even during a. Nepal. difficult period. Statement

State-wise procurement of food grains out of 1975-76 crop. (as reported upto 7th M»y* 1976) (Figurts. in ’ooo tonnes)

States Rice Maize Jowar Bajra Wheat (incl. Paddy in in terms of rice)

I. Andhra Pradt sh 898 a. Assam 224 Neg. Bihar 59 10 U 9 Written Answers 'MAY 10, 19W Written Answers

X 2 3 4 5 6

4. Gujarat . , . 26 • • 59 S. Haryana . . , 473 1 Neg. 210 *6. Jammu & Kashmir . 41 •• .. Neg. 7, Karnataka . . . 146 Neg. 11 •• 25 .. .. • • 9. Madhya Pradesh . . 264 1 Neg. *4 ao. Maharashtra 50 • • 220 16 8 .11. Orissa , . , 160 • • ..

1176 20 Neg. 342 •13. Rajasthan...... 26 1 .. 16

14. Tamil Nadu 840 •• • •

15. U<.tar Pradesh . . . 710 2 .. 289

16. WwSt Bengal , 246 .. 17 <17. Others « 22 10 Neg.

TorAL . 5386 37 231 16 985

Neg—Below 500 tonnes.

•Growth of English Medium Primary SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE Schools in Delhi DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI D. P. YADAV). (a) and (b) The re­ 3671. SHRI R. N. BARMAN: Will cognised primary schools run h> private the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL managements are regulated under the WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased provisions of the Delhi School Educa­ to state; tion Act, 1973 and the Rules framed (a) whether there is a mushroom thereunder both with regard to quali­ growth of English medium Primary fications of teachers and courses of Schools in Delhi which are run on study. The scales of pay and allow­ commercial basis and there is hardly ances of the employees of recognised any control of the Government with private schools other than the minority regard to the qualifications of teachers, schools are also regulated by the pro­ their emoluments and the syllabi they visions of the Act. The unrecognised follow; and private schools are not covered under (b) if so, what steps are being con­ the Delhi School Education Act. 1973 templated to streamline the education because the Act provides for free system at the grass root level in Delhi? education for all children under the age of 14 and Delhi Administration THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE have made adequate arrangements MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND lor education of all such children. M l Written A im e r* VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 122.

ttmtinmil Plia for BebabilHstlOB of be pleased to state whether Govern­ Barijuu and Adivasis ment propose to consider creation of hundreds of chimneys for acquapher 3672. SHRI P. GANGA REDDY: recharging during monsoon to enable Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE extraction of ground water during AND IRRIGATION be please 1 to summer when seasonal rivers of the state: Deccan Plateau and Peninsula dry (a) whether Government have been up and the area faces acute water urged to formulate a National Plan foi scarcity? rehabilitation of Harijans and adi- vasig who have been allotted land THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE under 20-Point Economic programme; MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND and IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): The question of developing (b) reaction of Government there­ suitable methodologies of the re­ to? charge of aquifer system xn the hard rock areas of the Deccan THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Pleatu and Peninsula has been IRRIGATION (SJIRI ANNASAHEB considered by the Govt, of India P. SHINDE): (a) and (b). The natio­ and a couple of special projects have been taken up in representative areas nal guidelines on land ceiling urged of Sina and Man sub-basins of the the State and Union Territories to dis­ Bhima river basin in the State of tribute surplus land by according pri­ Maharashtra and Vedavati River Basin orities to landless agricultural workers in Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh to particularly those who belong to the go into the question of method of re­ Scheduled Castes and Scheduled charge alongwith its other objectiv­ Tribes. The laws and the rules fram­ es of quantification of groundwater re­ ed under them, as operative in the sources, quality conjuctive use of sur­ States an

(b) brief account of works comple- proper storage and_ non-utilisation in ted and still continuing; and time during 1973-74, 1974-75 and 1975- 76; (c) amount proposed to be spent during 1976-77? (b) whether any attempt has been made to fix responsibility for the da- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, mage; and :SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (PROF. S. NURUL HASAN): (a) Ex- (c) if so, results thereof? _penditure incurred on Raigad and Pachad during the last three years is THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE -as under:- MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Raigact Pachad IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS PATE'L): ('a ) to (c). The information I973 -74 62, 183 Nil is being collected from the Ministry of Fertilisers and Chemicals and will 1 97~ -/5 J ,57,6/ 2 2,395 be placed on the Table of the House. 1975 -76 91,''>91 29,342

(b) At Raigad repairs to the fi ve Drought Prone Areas prQgramme ;palace comp ~ exes of the Ashta-pradhan Wada an'd to the front wall of R.aniwas 3676. SHRI SHANKERRAO SAV- nave been carried out. The palace ANT: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- ·complexes were also cleared of debris TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased and wild jungle growth. Four rock- to state: . cut tanks were desilted for storage of potable water. The walls of the (a) salient features of the Drought- . Ja,gadishwara Templ~ were strengthen- prone Area Programme; ed by pointing. (b) areas where the programm~ Repairs to the structures of B azaar- has been made applicable; . and peth and watertightening of the top of the walls of J agadishwara Temple are (c) achievements of the Program- in progress. me during the last two years? At Pach ad repairs to the breaches in ·the walls of the fortifications and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE water-tightening its top and clearance MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND of vegetation and debris are in pro- IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAHNAWAZ . gress. KHAN): (a) Drought Prone Areas Pro • gramme is based on the concept of (c) Amount proposed to be spent integrated area development of the • during the 1976-77 is as under:- Drought P rone Areas of the country. The basic objectives of the Progr amme (r) Raigad R ~ . r, ()e>,()oo are (1) To improve the economy of (2) Pachd Rs. 60,000 these areas through a package of infra- structural and on-farm development activities t o ensure optimal ut.ilisation Damage in lndigenQus Fertilizers of land, water, human and livestock resources of these areas. (2) Develop- ment of the weaker sections of 3675. SHRI SHANKERRAO SAV- the -c ommulnity, n amely, the small and ANT: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- marginal farmers and agricultural -"TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased labourers. (3) Provision of employ. to state:. ment both direct wage employment and (a) State-wise quantity of Indigenous indirect eJnployment through develop. ·fer tilisers damaged on account of im- ment. I%5 Written Answers VAISAKHA 20, 1698 (SAKA) Written Answers 126

The ba sic unit for programme plann­ (a) whether the scheme of housing ing will be a watershed. Programme loans is linked with family planning elements in different sectors will be scheme as appeared in press; and linked with each other and will be designed on the basis of the resource (b) if so, Government’s reaction endowment of the area, the financing thereon? is by both State and central Govern- plenty on 50:50 basis. THE MINISTER OF WORKS ANl> HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY The main thrust of effort will be in AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RAMAl- the direction 0/ restoration of a proper AH): (a) and (b>. There is no propo­ ecological balance in these areas. Some sal for linking housing loans to family of the important elements which may planning programme. Some of the constitute the strategy for such ecolo­ State Governments have, however, gically integrated development are:— adopted some measures by way of in­ centives/disincentives to promote the (i) Development and management family planning programme. of irrigation resources; (ii) Soil and moisture conservation Loans for Construction of Houses to and afforestation; Industrial Workers (in) Re-structuring of cropping pattern and pasture develop, 3678. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will mont; the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ (iv) Changes in agronomic practi­ ING be pleased to state how much ces; money Government have given as loans for constructing houses to indus­ (v) Livestock development; trial workers, Bank employees, Central (vi) Development of small/marginal Government employees and plantation farmers and agricultural lab­ workers *n 1973-74, 1974-75 and 1975- ourers. 7 the State Governments. The former sche­ Unking o f Housing Loans with Family me is in the State Sector and it is for Planning Schemes the State Governments to allocate fundg out of their Annual Plan Outlays 3677. SHRIMATI PARVATHI for the implementation of this Scheme KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of according to the requirements and prio­ WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to rities determined by them. The Sub­ state: sidised Housing Scheme for Plantation Workers is in the Central Sector and Written Answer* MAY 10. 1979 Written Anmmr* 12% the following funds were released to Chancellor of Madras University apoke the concerned State Governments dur­ of the need lor the establishment ot an ing the last three years for the imple­ Indian Social Work Cadre at the Union mentation of this Scheme — and State levels, while delivering the inaugural address at a seminar on 1973-74 Rs. 50.30 lakhs Social Work Education and Develop­ 1974-75 Rs. 80.00 lakhs ment of Weaker Sections hetd at Madras in December 1974 when he 1975-76 Rs 80 00 lakhs was the Director, Madras Institute of Development studies, Madras The bank employees hke other eli­ ** gible persons can avail themselves of (fc) There is no such proposal under loan assistance for construction of the consideration of Government houses under the Low Income Group and the Middle Income Group Housing Schemes These schemes are also im­ Expenditure on Enquiry Committee on plemented by the State Governments Bharat Sewak Samaj who are themselves competent to allo­ cate funds for the implementation of 3680 SHRI VASANT SATHE Will these schemes according to their re­ quirements and priorities. the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state- Central Government employees are, (a) expenditure incurred on tKe En­ however, given loan assistance for con. quiry Committee on working of Bha­ struction of houses directly by the Cen­ rat Sewak Samaj upto date; and tral Government During the last 3 years, the following amounts were (b) progress made m regard to fol­ given to them as loang for the pur­ low up action? pose— THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1073-74 Rs 1044 00 lakhs MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAHNAWAZ 1*74-75 Rs 829 98 lakhs KHAN) (a) A sum of Rs 10,44,511/- l!*75-76 Rs 1971 37 lakhs was spent upto 31st March, 1975^ (b) Pnnted copies of the Report, after being laid on the Table of the Indian Social Work Cadre House alongwith allocation of para- gtaph-, and guidelines, were sent to the 367 * SHRI VASANT SATHE Will Central Ministries and State Govern­ the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL ments for furnishing comments en the WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased portions with which tthey were con­ to state cerned AH efforts are being made to get the required information expedited (a> whether a suggestion has been from them However, a Memorandum made by the Vice-Chancellor of Mad­ of Action taken on the report is being ras University for establishment of an prepared for laying on the Table of the Indian Social Work Cadre; House at an early date on the basis of available material. (b) if so, contents thereof; and (c) reaction of Government thereon? House Building advance to Employees THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of Autonomous Bodies MINISTRY OP EDUCATION. SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE DEPART­ 3031. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will MENT OF CULTURE (SHRI ARVIND the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ NETAM): (a) and (b). The Vice- ING be pleased to state: VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers i 30

t e l wta atttor #he W m m Building Ad- (a) whether conditions of animals in vamfe is »dt gtasfe to the employees of the Zoo at Delhi are deteriorating day the various autonbmous bodies under by day; the administrative and financial con­ trol of the Ministries concerned for (b) names and numbers of new construction of houses 011 the plots al­ birds received from foreign countries; lotted to them by the Delhi Develop­ and ment Authority; (c) whether animals are also being ft) if so, reasons therefor; and transferred from other zoos to Delhi zoo? (c) sources from which these emp­ loyees can get advance for construc­ tion of houses on plots allotted to them THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE by the Delhi Development Authority MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND or for the purchase of flats on cash- IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHUDAS down or hire-purchase basis? PATEL): (a) No. There has been no deterioration in the health of animals in the Delhi Zoological Park. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUS­ (b) During the period from 1-4-74 to ING (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT): (a) 31-3-76 following birds/animals were and (b). The scheme for the grant of received from foreign countries. house building advance administered by the Ministry of Works and Housing is limited to Central Government ser­ (1) Hunting Cheetah from Oklo. vants and officers of All India Servi­ hama Zoo, U.S.A. 1 No. ces. As the employees of the various autonomous Bodies under the adminis­ (ii) Beisa Orya from Sri Lanka— trative and financial control of the 2 Nos. Ministries are not Central Government servants, they are not Eligible for grant (iii) Guanaco from London; U.K.— of house building advance under this 1 No. scheme. (iv ) Pumas—2 Nos. Black Swan from Holland— (c) These employees can get house 2 Nos. building advance from their employer if they have any such scheme of their (v) Goittered Zazelle from Iran— own and if this scheme admits of the 7 Nos. grant of an advance for the purchase of flats on cash-down or hire-purchase (vi) Spot billed Pelican—2 jNos. basis. Alternatively they can take re­ Greater Hill Mynas from course to any other source available to Burma—4 Nos. any private citizen vis. from the LJC or from the State Governments under (c) In order to enrich their respec­ their various housing schemes. tive collection of animals and birds all the zoos in the country exchange birds and animals amongst them selves. Simi­ Ceadittoat « f sartmals te OvOS Zoo larly, Delhi Zoo is also constantly ex­ changing birds and animals with diffe­ rent so os in India. During the course M82. SARDAR tfWAtlAN SINGH of 2 years i.e. from 1-4-74 to 81-3-78 SO M ; Will the *Knistar of A8U- about twelve exchanges of animals and CULTUBB AND IRRIGATION be plea, birds have taken place between Delhi sed to state: Zoological Park and other Indian zoos. 131 Writt:m Answers MAY 10, 1976 Written Answers 132

Le&islation on Liquidation of Rural committee has recently gone into the Debt burden question of provision of consumption credit to the weaker sections in the 3683. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- context of various debt relief measures. JEE: The Committee has assessed the re- SHRI HUKAM CHAND quirements of credit for small and KAC;HWAI: marginal farmer~, landlless labourers SHRI GADADHAR SAHA: and rural artisans and has made re- commendations for meeting these Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE needs. AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: With a view to augment the existing (a) whether Government are consi- credit facilities for small and marginal dering to initiate legislation to liqui- farmers, rural artisans etc. Regional date debt burden on the agricultural Rural Banks sponsored by Commercial labourers and small and marginal far- Banks are being set up. One of the mers; main objective of these Banks is to attempt effective coverage of small and (b) if so, salient features thereof; marginal farmers, landless labourers and and rural artisans. (c) alternative arrangements, if any, being made to fill up the gap which Sugar Mills iu U.P. is likely to widen <:onsequent upon the abolition of the system of money len. 3684. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- ding by village and professional mo- JEE: Will the Minister of AGRICUL- ney lenders? TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state total number of Sugar Mills THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Uttar Pradesh under the ownership MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE.' AND and control of private and co-operative IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAHNAWAZ sectors, separately, at present? KHAN): (a) and (b). The subject of money lending and money lenders, relief of agricultural indebtedness is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE included as item 3Q in the of MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND the Vllth schedule of the constitution IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAHNA W AZ Of India. In pursuance of the 20-point KHAN): There are at present 77 instal- Economic Programme, Government of led sugar factories in Uttar Pradesh. India have issued detailed guidelines to Out of these 52 sugar factories are un- the State Governments for taking legi- der the ownership and control of pri- slative action for imposition of mora- vate sector and 8 sugar factories under torium on the recovery of debts due the ownership and control of the co- from landless labourers, rural artisans, operative sector. The remaining sugar small and marginal farmers and total factories are UJ:!der the . ownership and/ relief in the case of marginal farmers, or control of the U. P. State Sugar Cor. landless labourers and rural artisans poration Limited, a Public Sector Un- whose household income does not ex- dertaking of the State Government. ceed Rs. 2,400 per annum. Legislative action is also required to be taken for scaling down the debts of small far- mers. The above measures relate to r~r if ('f~~r !ffT "!.~ mer ~T, y : 'fliT (c) The cooperative credit institu- fl'fq-11Jf ~·h: '>mrT~ li?.'\ .:·f ;;c•~ Cffr tion~ and commercial banks have to come ·· forward to fill in the gap. . A i~~'f o,;~q. f'fi : *33 ffrtfca i AHkwert VAISAK&A 20, 1898 (SAXA) Written. Answera 134

( * ) ^ Establishment of Nehru T m k K*«- % ffcft far#! * *TvfT^ dra* darter Fifth Phut 3686. SHRI VASANT SATHE; Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL («r) ^T'.'vVrfr *vnr*i Irsf'swl’ WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: fw«rr ft.*vwr «Tif,T %. *:$' v tsr *rroro m i vrt (*ft %o nr!**?) : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND *rnrr*r grr * 42241 s o c ia l We l f a r e a n d in t h e d e ­ p a r t m e n t OF CULTURE (SHRI D. (sr) trtr (»r). (i) ?r«r "1974- P. YADAV): (a) to (c). It is proposed to sanction 50 more Kendras during 75 1975-76 $ m*r.»r jsr % the current financial year. The Fifth wiirf *r*Rr gfTrfsr Flan is gtill in the process of finalisa- ffFJrfafercr | — tion. These Nehru Yuvak Kendras will carry out the same activities which are being conducted by the exist­ 1974-75 1975-76 ing Kendras at present. The Nehru Yuvak Kendras under­ 325 48*rrer*q$ 340.13 ;qr take various activities in the areas of non-formal education, vocational train­ ( 11) v i ^ w ;:* r qrw,* *r< ing, sports and games, culture, social service and organisation of youth fw ^ snf ftPfftrfar t .— camps. These activities will further 1974-75 1 975-76 be expanded in all the existing Ken­ dras and those proposed to be set up. 127.08^^ 176.98*IT« Amo«*t dtttftfetfitf by »D.A. for eea- *mctkm of Houses

^ r# ra r trtvif v , &r > m ? ) xw- 3687. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: ta ll the Minister o f WORKS AND xm * t m #twra

Theft of Raw Material and Building search and the Bhabha A tomic Re- ' · ··Material belonging to DDA search Centre are associated in this activity. 3690. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: WiU the Minister of WORKS AND (b) Yes, Sir. Nuclear techniques IfOUSING be pleased to state: are being applied in agriculture by several Agricultural Research Institu- (a) whether the theft of raw tions and Agricultural Universities in material and building material be- India. longing to D.D.A. has exceeded over Rs. 3 crores; (c) The areas of such applications are (i) induction of mutations in crop (b) out of the same, how many plants, (ii) soil fertility and fertiliser cases have been handed over to the use and plant nutrition in field crops, police and in how many cases re- as well as, horticultural crops like '" covery has been made; and mango and grapes, (iii) water use effi- ciency and ground-water studies· and (c) in respect of the rest, what (iv) estimation of pesticides and f'ungi- .. action is being taken? cidal residues in crops using tracer THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND techniques and (v) basic studies invol. HOUSiNG AND PARLIAMENTARY ving physiological and biochemical in- vestigations. AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RAMAI- AH): (a) to (c). No, Sir. The D.D.A. Nuclear techniques have also been has reported that from 1968-69 to the used for animal health, like control of current year , 79 cases of theft (includ- lung worm in sheep using attenuated ing petty thefts) involving an amount vaccine in Kashmir and in studies of of Rs. 2,51.464 were detected. With nutritional problems in dairy cattle at the exception of one case, which is the National Dairy Research Institute being inquired into departmentally, all and the Indian Veterinary Research the other cases were handed over to Institute. the Police for investigation and appro- priate action under law. Hostels for Working Womea

Use of Nuclear Techniques in Agri- 3692. SHRI DHAMANKAR: Will the culture Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased t 3691. SHRI P. 'GANGADEB: Will the to state: Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (a) how many hostels are there at pre~ent _in the country for providing (a) whether India's Nuclear Science res1denhal accommodation to work- , and Technology is playing an import- ing women; ant role in modernising agriculture; (b) whether there are any plans (b) if so, whether many agricul- for providing fundsJgrants-in-aid for tural institutions and universities construction of more such hostels have applied nuclear techniques in during 1976-77; and if so, how many the field of agriculture; and and at which cost and at what places; and (c) if so, facts thereof? (c) which voluntary organisations THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in the field of social welfare are at MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND present providing such facilities to IRRIGATION (SHRI SHAHNAWAZ the working women and what check KHAN): (a) Yes, Sir. Nuclear Science is effected to see that such organisa- and Technology is playing a useful tions utilise the grant-in-aid funds role in modern agriculture. Both the for the purpose for which they are Indian Council of Agricultural Re- given? 139 Written Answers MAY 10, 1978 Written Answers

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Owrfmcttou of Multt-ttorend B«iid- MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND IN THE DE­ atpa m m B iR w v m sx n g h r a o : PARTMENT OF CULTURE (SHRI ARVIND NET AM), (a) Information Will the Minister of W OWS AND HOUSING be pleased to state* about the exact number of hostels for working women present in the country (a) policy of the Government re­ is not available However assistance garding the construction of multi- has been provided for construction/ storeyed buildings in the Incka Gat* expansion of 87 hostels by the Govern­ and Connaught Place Areas of New ment of India upto 31st March, 1976 Delhi, in addition to the assistance provided (b) names of owners of Mnltl- by the Central Social Welfare Board storeyed buildings, in these areas for the maintenance of 48 such hostels. which have came up during the pal* 3 years, (b) A provision of Rs 60 00 lakhs has been made for this purpose during (c) authorities which sanctioned the year 1976-77 Special preference these buildings, and in providing such assistance will be (d) estimated expenditure incurred given to cities with population of two on each building’ lakhs and above where such facilities do not already exist THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY (c) A Statement showing the names AFFAIRS (SHRI K RAGHU RAMAI- of organisations given grants for cons­ AH) (a) In order to control the sky truction/expansion of hostels for work­ line, check haphazard urban develop­ ing women is laid on the Table of the ment and ensure provision of adequate House [Placed tn Library See No infructructural facilities, the Govern­ LT-10821/76] ment m Novermber 1971 imposed a ban on construction of multi-storeyed build­ ings Cmore than three storeys) m New The proper utilisation of funds by Delhi area, pending formulation of organisations is enforced through re­ detailed redevelopment proposals lease of grants in instalments after obtaining audited statements of expen­ (b) As per the attached Statement diture from Charterer Accountants (c) Plans for multi-storeyed build­ for each instalment Moreover, the ings are required to be approved by organisations have also to furnish the N D M C as the local body and the ‘completion certificates’ from the State L & D O as lessor While N DM C Public Works Department The hostels have sanctioned building plans in all are also visited by Officers of the Social cases, in some cases the L. & D ,0 has Welfare Departments of the States not approved the plans under the terms and by the Officers of the Government of the lessee o f India. (d) Not known Wri&eh AiUweri tAISAltHA 20, (SAKA) Written Answer* 14* Statement MCttlSTOJCBTED COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDINGS

Si. ImKwQiDv9 piOi Name of the Owner/Promoter Mft

BaraMkamba Road I IS . M/s. Hansaly* Properties 2 x8 (Katrehanjunga) , . . M/s. Kailash Nath & Associates. 3 24 . . M/a Rajeshwar Nafth Vishvma Nath & • Others. 4 26 (Nirmal Tower) . . . . M/s Cycle Equipments Pvt Ltd 5 26-A (Akash Deep) » , . . M/s Chtranp Lai & Others 6 27 . . . • . M/s New Delhi Hotels.

Barakhamba Lane 7 7, 8, 9 . . Food Corporation of Ind. <

Kasturba Ocmdkt Road 8 16 (Ansal Bhawan). . . M/s Ansal & Saigal Properties 9 i3-20 (Hindustan Times) . . . M/s Hindustan Times 10 19 (Surya Kiran) . . . . Mis Ansal & Saigal Properties it 23 (Himalaya House) . . . M/s Loknath & Co 12 24 (USIS) . Amcncan Embassy. 13 25 (LIC) . . Life Insurance Corporation 14 26 (Katlash) . M/s Abaskar Construction *5 Asia House • . CPWD

Parliament Street 16 4 .... . Press Trust of India 17 11 ... . . State Bank of India 18 16 ... . . Bank of Baroda 19 118 (Parliament Sectt. and Extension) . CPW D

Connaught Place (Middle Circle) 20 M-4 & 5 . M/s. Pun) Sons

21 E—13—*9 . . M/s. Peare Lai & Sons 22 5-A ‘M* (N:gtlc Home). . . The Christian Service Agency 23 H-11 24 F-Block (National India Unit) • . Life Insurance Co % 0 Written Answer* l l ^ y UHt W * , Wrttto* A&iHr*' fknwni IkaUikc Centre la KmAi plantations in 3&000 hectares of jNrt- v«|» land during file ^attaining three 3684. SHRI N. SREEKANTAN years of the Fifth Plan $eriod; and NAIR: Will the Minister of AGRI­ CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be (c) steps taken by Central Got- eminent to give clearance to the pleased to state: Scheme as a Centrally sponsored (a) whether Kerala Government one? have requested to Central Govern­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ment for establishment of 6 more MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE Farmers Training Centre in Kerala AND IRRIGATION (SHRI PRABHU- out of the 50 new centres proposed DAS PATEL): (a) Yes. to be established in the country during the Fifth Plan Period; and (b) Yes. (c) The details of the Scheme are (b) if so, decision taken by Gov­ being processed. ernment thereon? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Working Girls Hostel on Kastaita THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE Gandhi Marg, New Delhi AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNA- SAHEB P. SHINDE): (a) Yes, Sir. 3696. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- SHNAN: Will the Minister of (b) During the Fourth Plan, out WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased of the 10 districts in Kerala, 4 dis­ to state: tricts were provided Farmers Train­ ing Centres. During the Fifth Plan (a) number of working girls stay­ period, apart from the four centres, ing in Working Girls’ Hostel on one more will be established. Due to Kasturba Gandhi Marg (Cunon financial constraints, it may not be Road), New Delhi; possible to provide Kerala with more (b) the basis on which rents wars Farmers Training Centres during this fixed for different categories of Plan period. rooms; (c) whether rents have been re­ Private Cashew Plantation in Kerala vised and increased recently; and (d) if so, the facts thereof? 8695. SHRI N. SREEKANTAN THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND NAIR: HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY SHRI RAMCHANDRAN AFFAIRS (SHRI K, RAGHU RAM- KADANNAPPALLI: AIAH): (a) 123. Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ (b) to (d). The licence fee in res­ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased pect of the various suites in the to state: Working Girls Hostel prior to 1st April, 1978 was fixed on ad hoc and (a) whether in a report of a Mem­ subsidised basis as indicated below:— ber of Planning Commission, it has been indicated that there are good Eligible Ineligible prospects for private plantation* of cashew in Kerala; Rs. Rs. (b) whether baaed on this report 3 sestet rccm 13* J» T9'M the State Government of Kerala have submitted a snherae for raising cashew a sealer room 8'80 J 2 ’ go W fitt* nA**W VAJSAXHA 20, 1888 (SARA) papers Laid 14*

m m tifelt fMttt lrt Apr®, 1075 the (e) It so, steps being taken in tide ttcvnee fee* in respect of the suites in regard? the Working Girls Hostel in occupa­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND tion of Central Government employees BOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY have been revised 6n the basis of AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RA- * pooled unit rate FR 4RA, to Rs. 81.00 MAIAH): (a) Trilok Puri—About for S-seater rooms and Rs. 27.00 for 2-seater rooms. With effect from 1st 13/000. February, 1976, the licence fees re­ Kalyanpuri and Khicharipur—About coverable is respect of the suites 8 ,000. occupied by the working girls employ­ ed in Government undertakings and (b) The three colonies are situated private organisations etc. have also in one contiguous complex. Five been revised; this revision is in accord­ tube wells are under constructin and ance with the provisions of FR 45-B five more are being planned for the and works out as follows:— whole complex. 610 latrines have been provided in these colonies. 336 more latrines are under construction. Girls Girl 8 employe'1.employed (c) Water supply in these colonies in Govt. in Private is at present arranged through hand Under­ organisa­ pumps and it is not correct that there takings tions etc etc. is any shortage of water supply in these colonies.

3 Seater room 121*00 141.00 (d) and (e). The Delhi Develop­ ment Authority has reported that the 2 Seater room 104*00 121.00 entire Shahdara area is low lying and subject to flooding. However, ade­ Civil Amenities Provided to people quate arrangements are being made shifted to Kalyanpuri, Trilok Purl to ensure that no flooding takes place and Khiehaifpnr Colonies in the resettlement colonies.

3697. SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHALI: 12 hra Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

(a) number of families shifted to Madurai cmr Municipal Corporation Kalyanpuri, Trilokpuri and Khichari- (A mendment) A ct, 1976 pur Colony-wise; (b) number of tube wella and lat­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN rines provided in each colony; THE MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT) (c) whether Government are X beg to lay on the Table— aware that in many cases tube wella are not working and people have to A copy of the Madurai City face difficulties in getting drinking Municipal Corporation (Am­ water; endment) Act, 1976 (Hindi and English versions) (Presi­

No. of Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Amount of Desv r d ft 1 EfcJSMHid Giant on account voted by Grant submitted to the the House on 23-3-1976 vote of the House

1 2 3 4

Revenue Capital R&vtnue Ctpiul Rs. Rs. Rs. R*. 89 Ministry of Tourwm and Civil Avution 7,96,000 39,78,000 90 Meteorology 1,87,89,000 33,87,000 9,39,43,000 1,69,33,000 91 Aviation 4,46,84,000 4,23,80,000 22,34,19,000 21,19,02,000 92 Tourism 64,32,000 71,23,000 3,21,57.000 3,56,17,000

SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- the Airlines gave an assurance—and NAN (Coimbatore); Sir, m speaking it was one of the conditions—that on the Demands of this Ministry, I there would be no extra expenditure would first like to say that we have in any of the airports, to meet re­ definitely made some progress as re­ quirements of the traffic being handled gards both Tourism and Civil Avia­ by the air bus. We now learn that tion. modifications are going on in a sly manner; and that even the carrier But, Sir, I would like to draw the belt is to be changed. I do not attention of the House to the fact know why we are carrying on in this that in the process of modernization way. (Surely, there ia enough ex­ o f the (airports, we are having a most pertise throughout the world for us peculiar procedure. Because we find to draw upon. There is enough that our airports never keep up with experience for us to draw from, in the modernization that ig talcing place order to see that we keep up with throughout the world , There is the modernisation that is taking place, never a long-range perspective; and within our country also. we find ourselves, when we think Similarly, there is a lot of wastage. that we have got a very modern air­ I learn that in most of the advanced port, that we are ten years behind countries of the world 80 per cent of all the other world airports, which the airfield is paved area whereas in have caught up and gone for ahead. India ft is only 20 per cent. When I cannot understand why we should We have got to catch up with 80 per be having all these experts who only cent, we find that, even in the emer­ go after what has already taken place gency period, last year in the Palam 5 or 10 years earlier in the other Airport the mosaic flooring was chang­ countries. When we want to compete ed to Kotah stone. Is this the way you in tourism; when we want the most deal when the emergency? Is this the modern aircraftt our airports are not way we bring up the airports that adequate to deal with the modem we ere bothered more about whether aircrafts. Pot instance, when the it is mosaic flooring or Kotah stone airbus purchase was being considered, and not bothered about bringing the * 51 DG 1&70-77—Jfin. of MAY 10, 197S four i*m fc Ova Aviation 15a

t Shrimati Parvathi Krisfcnan] our heavy indujfcriftg qr for otter airport up to the specifications of a «phareg of developmental activities really modem airport? we are told that there It a ahmtatft of foreign exchange? Therefore, the With regard to safety, in some air­ Ministry of Civil Aviation have got ports, i am told there are no crash to pull up their aocks, if they have tenders with the required capacity of any socks, and they have got to deal foam and water required for the with this problem of safety device Boeing 737. Iq Khajuraho; for in­ immediately and ensure that they are stance; which is an important tourist according to ICAO standards. You centre; while I do not want to create have to keep the national Interest in a sense of panic; I am told that there mind, see to it that there is the are only two jeeps to fight the pos­ minimum drainage of foreign ex­ sibility of a fire. So; the poor pas­ change and accept the most advant­ sengers who get into the Boeing have ageous tender, rather than merely to be armed with the Quran, or the asking for global tenders again and Bible or the Gita in their hands and again while you lackeys in Austria or hope for the best. Holland are having a free time, try­ The whole problem is that of pur­ ing to influence the various officers chase of CFTs. Why iB it that you that are there. have been delaying the decision about As far as the International Airport -the CFTs? Since 1969 this question Authority is concerned, at the time has been hanging fire. You have got the Bill was being discussed, Dr. a tender from Tatra of Czechoslo­ Karan Singh gave an assurance here vakia. But you have got interested that the setting up of this Authority parties wanting to go in for these would create new avenues of promo* CFTs from Australia and Holland. tion for the Civil Aviation Depart­ You find that from Tatras you are ment employees, who are experts in able to get them upto the! specifica­ handling air traffic control. What do tions laid down by KAO. In spite of we now see? We now find that one that, you want to go in for the after the other, IAF personnel are Austrian one, which has a capacity of being drawn into this organisation, only 800 gallons, whereas Tatras have which is demoralising the employees got 1200 gallons. The Tatras cost of the Civil Aviation Department. TEtg 7-1/2 lakhs which have got to be The people who are drawn from the IAF have experience of dealing with paid in rupees, which means no drain fighters and bombers, but they do not of foreign exchange while the others have the background experience of cost Bs. 15J lakhs to be paid In handling civilian air traffic control. foreign currency. When you have You have got your expertise, your got this offer and when they have got very skilled officers in your own the stock for ready supply, why this department, end yet you go and draw delay? Why are you so absolutely somebody from somewhere else, who meagre in the allocation of resources, comes for two years, introduces his restating in such paucity of fire-fight­ own new idea and then—goes away. ing equipments in your airports? Then another person comes and tries Now we have got 8 track-type fire his own idea, ignoring whatever has tenders from Canada, which run at happened before him I have nothing 3 K.M per hour. They are not being against the IAF officers. W e. are used in any airport in the world at proud of them. We know what a all and yet we purchased them at a tremendous piece of work they have cost o f Bs. 20 lakhs each. Why should bean attacked. At the same time, we go In for this kind of thing, which done any time. Our country has Is a drain on our dander foreign let us nof give them too much exchange resources? When we really of responsibility, because there need equipments for hospitals, or tor Is a vast difference in work I«a DG Of VAISAKHA20, IBM (SAKA) Tourism & Civil i concerned. might have been. With that base Surely when the Tihrd Pay Com­ you say that you have achieved so mission has already gone into it in much. I think that is misleading, great detail, and the Government has I do not deny that there has thought fit In so many spheres to been some progress, but surely accept their recommendations, why you must be much more open should you have here a new commit­ with the figures that you give to tee coming in? Therefore, if—I Parliament, so that we can really say ‘i f ; I hope it will not happen— such a committee is there and it analyse them in a proper manner and come to our own conclusions. But makes recommendations, I hope you to-day I am at a loss. I do agree will do nothing about those recom­ there is that much of an increase, I mendations without consulting the appreciate that there is an increase JCM about it. in our foreign exchange earnings, but Lastly, you must think of your I would like to know what exactly employees. You do 8o much of the increase is. Why take 1971 as the modernisation, so much of building. base? Take a normal year when You may not believe it, but If you there was normal tourist traffic go to Palam—perhaps when you, Sir, As far as the ITDC hotels are con­ go, they will not be there, I do not cerned, there is no doubt that they know—you will find that there are have improved. Some of them have eight employees working in a room— come out of the red and they are this is the way in which they are progressing, but at the same time, neglected—which is « store room, there Is friction between the manage­ which has no ventilation, no fan. ment and the workers. Why is it We are sitting here in air-conditioned that the Ministry cannot see that this splendour. It might be difficult for friction is overcome? In one Govern­ us to understand what it means to ment Department after another, after them. Bu^this is the way in which the emergency, the Ministries have Hie employees are dealt with. When worked with a sense of emergency you talk of the emergency, when you ttnfl brought about a certain lowering talk o l a commitment, -when you of the friction between the manage, talk of a national perspective, don’t ment and the workers. Whereas in jrou think that the efficiency of the ITDC, in which we are vitally in­ employees would be much greater if terested, we find that this has been t£ey *r« al&9 given conditio^ where 4 neglected. The workers are addng 455 1)0 1W6-77—itfin. of MAY 10, 1076 Tourism & "tivil Aviation 15$

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[Shrimati Parvathi Krishnanj their ewn country? If they are given, concessional rates; with these codees- fid* whole issue of setting up vari­ •ions that they get t o the Railways lee ous tourist offices in these various holidays, our people wfQ go with fami­ countries and ffod out where tourist lies and the Southerner wffl learn about potential is, particularly, from the the North and the Northerner will near-east countries, where there It learn about the South, end this will be no greenery whereas here in our a process of national integration. To­ country there is a lush of greenery. day, all that the Southerner knows about the north is about their food, As far as the Information Assis­ when they go to a Punjabi resturant or tants are concerned, why is it that you a Bengali restuarant. But do they go to the open market for 80 per cent know that Assam is a place that is as of your recruitment? This is a kind glorious as their Mahabalipuram or of thing that demoralises the Kovalam? Do the Manipuris or Assa­ employees. You have got to do some­ mese know that there is such a beauti­ thing about it, You should assure them ful thing as a wide sea-front in the and bring in the rules to see that at Marina in Madras or in Kovalam? least 60 per cent o f them are from the Therefore, I would appeal to the Minis­ Department itself because they are ter that while tourist traffic from growing in the Department. Let them abroad is extremely important as part grow further. of our international relations, as part of our foreign exchange earnings and As regards the telephone operators, as part of the whole world as it is to­ there are two of them and they are to day, it is equally important that inter­ get an increase of Rs. 20 according to nal tourist traffic should have conces­ the Pay Commission’s recommenda­ sional rates, particularly those who tion. There are two women telephone earn Rs. 1000 and under, so that the operators. Therefore, 1 am specifically industrial workers etc. can travel all referring to this point although there over the country from Kashmir to are many other points in regard to the Kanya Kumari and learn ---- Pay Commission’s recommendations that remain to be touched. An in­ MR. SPEAKER: Fanners also. crease of Rs 20 is not being given to them although in all other Government SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN: Departments, that increase has been Yes, all working people. If they are sanctioned and has been given. You given concessional rates—for instance, spend lakhs and lakhs of rupees on if in Mahabalipuram they are given a mosaic flooring and Kotah stone at cottage for Rs. 10 per day, they can Palam. But you cannot give Rs. 20 afford to stay for a week, but they increase to two telephone operators In cannot afford to stay at Rs. 50 or Rs. the Department. This is the manner 100 or Rs. 800 per day. In which your Department functions. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): Lastly, I would say that you must I beg to move:— have a proper approach not only to our tourist traffic from abroad but also to “That the demand under the head tourist traffic within the country. Do Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia* you not want tourism within the tlon be reduced by Rs. 100.** country to be a part of national integ­ ration? Why is it that you cannot give [Need to make available eatables and concessional rates in the off-season for cold drinks to the visitors at reasonable Industrial workers and salaried class of rates at Qutab Minar(2)j people so that they can go from Assam “That the demand under the head to Mahabalipuram and from Kovatam Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ f ? Manipur and Assam and teem about tion be reduced by Rs. 160,w ifit q f VAJSAKHA30, ii9fr (SAKA) T**rism * Civil ife ■ i 1 *<. t Aulo*Ion {lfj* g to prtwfale * *«& the DGCA, trained la Cash and Ac- cafeteria on cooperative basis f«* tb* countancy, in th« resultant vacan- tourists at Qutab Minar (3}] ciea(16)j

“That the -demand under the head “That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ tion be reduced to Re. 1.” tion be reduced to Re. 1.” [Need to formulate common cadre of [Failure to convert non-technical ex­ Hindi Translators working in the cadre posts in the office of the DGCA Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviation into ministerial posts and include them and DGCA (Hqrs.) and revert deputa- in CSS/CSCS in terms of the Depart­ tionists against these posts from out. ment of Personnel orders dated the side offices and confirm present incum- March, 1972 (17)] bants of these posts (12)] "That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ “That the demand under the head tion be reduced to Re. 1." Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ tion be reduced to Re. 1.” [Failure to hold regularly the meet­ ing of the office Council (JCM) of the [Need to review the Recruitment DGCA office as required under rules Rules pertaining to the non-Secretarial and to implement the decisions of the ployees working in the DGCA (Hqrs.) office council (JCM) (18)]. (13)] “That the demand under the head “That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ tion be reduced to Re. 1.” tion be reduced to Re. 1.” [Failure to implement the instruc­ [Need to confirm all temporary em. tions contained in the Department of staff working in the DGCA (Hqrs.) Personnel Memorandum of November, and the Ministry of Tourism and Civil 1972 regarding reservation for Schedul­ Aviation who have completed more ed Castes and Scheduled Tribes in pro­ than 2 years service (14) J. motions in the office of the DGCA. “That the demand under the head (Hqrs.) (19)]. Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia, “That the demand under the head tion be reduced to Re. 1.*’ Tourism be reduced to Re. l.” [Failure to maintain properly and [Failure to make confirmations in systematically the G.P. Fund Account the Grade of UDC in their order of of Class IV employees and Compulsory Deposit Scheme Account of employees position/place occupied by the em­ ployees including those belonging to of the DGCA and need to issue slips SC/ST in the select lists/recruitment of Account to them as has been done roster maintained/prepared by the De­ by other offices of the Government of India (15)] partment of Tourism strictly in terms of Recruitment Rules (20)]. “That the demand under the head “That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ Tourism be reduced to Re. 1.” tion be reduced to *Re. 1.” [Failure to take action on the repre­ [Need to send back SAS Accountants sentations of the employees of the- in the office of the DGCA to their Tourism Department including those parent office in terms of the April, 1975 belonging to SC/ST especially in the Instructions of the Department of Per­ matter of confirmation according to sonnel and A4t and promote UDCs of the places/positions occupied by them 786 LS—0 16$ JOG we-77-Jfii*. 0/ M A Y 19, ? W i * m k'CtoM Avtatkm 164 [Shri & M. Banerjee] nographers of the Central Secreta­ in the select lists/recruitment pos­ ria t^ )] ters (21)] "That the demand under the head "That the demand under the head Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” [Failure to upgrade a number of [Failure to amend recruitment rules posts of LDCs as UDC in view of the pertaining to Gass II posts in the De­ fact that incumbants of such posts are partment of Tourism, such as, Assist­ doing work comparable to the UDC ant Director, Assistant, Senior Steno­ and the 3rd Pay Commission has re­ grapher, Senior Investigator etc. and commended such upgradation in its re. discontinue direct recruitment as per port(27)j the recommendation of the Pay Com­ mission accepted by the Government “That the demand under the head and orders issued by the Government Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” on the subject (22)] [Need to create more posts of Assist­ "That the demand under the head ant Directors (Admn.), Assistants and Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” UDCs in the Administrative Division of the Department of Tourism so that [Failure to amend recruitment rules staff grievances may be dealt with pro­ for the post of Computor/Junior In­ mptly (28)] vestigator in the Department of Tou­ rism with a view to make provision for “That the demand under the head promotion of Key Punch Operators/ Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” Computers working in the Department [Need to reduce the quota earmarked of Tourism (23)] for limited departmental competitive “That the demand under the head examination for promotion to the posts Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” of UDCs from 50 per cent to 25 per cent in accordance with the orders is­ [Failure to send Assistant Directors sued by the Government of India in XAdmn.), Assistants and UDCs in the this regard recently (29)] Department of Tourism to various re­ fresher courses conducted by the ISTM “That the demand under the head as is being done by other offices of the Tourism be reduced by Rs 100.” Government of India (24)] [Failure to reply to the representa­ “That the demand under the head tions received from staff Unions which Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” is against the instructions of the Gov­ ernment on the subject (30)] [Need to send UDCs of the Depart­ ment of Tourism to Cash and Account­ “That the demand under the head ancy Course conducted by the ISTM Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” with a view to make them eligible for [Need to modify the recruitment appointment as Accountants in the De­ rules for the post of Information As­ partment^) ] sistant in the Department of Tourism “That the demand under the head with a view to provide 30 per cent Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100." posts to employees of the Department of Tourism (31)] [Need to remove the discrimination in the matter of pay scales attached to “That the demand under the head the post of Senior Stenographer in the Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” Department of Tourism by raising it [Need to amend the recruitment from Rs. 425—750 to 425—800. Thus rules for the post of Assistant in the bringing it at per with the senior stew Department of Tourism with a view to *65 DG of VAISAKHA» . 1898 (5AKA) Tottrim li Cioil 166 Aviation provide 50 per «ent posts in the grade “That the demand under the head for promotion ot TJDCs as bas been Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” done by the Department of Personnel lor the Central Secretariat staff (32)] [Failure to confirm Class IV, Class III and Class II employees of the De­ “That the demand under the head partment of Tourism against the per­ Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” manent posts lying vacant in these grades since long(39)] [Need to remove acute stagnation in “That the demand under the head the grade of Senior Stenographer in the Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” Department of Tourism by providing a selection grade to them (33)] [Failure to create posts of Selection Grade Daftries in the Department of “That the demand under the head Tourism as has been done by the other Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” Departments of the Govemment(40)] [Need to reduce direct recruitment to “That the demand under the head the post of Information Assistant from Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” 80 per cent to 50 per cent with a view to give resultant 30 per cent posts in [Failure to maintain properly and the grade to the employees of the systematically the G.P. Fund Account Department of Tourism (34)] of Class IV employees and Compulsory “That the demand under the head Deposit Account of the employees of Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100." the Department of Tourism (41)] [Need to modify recruitment rules to “That the demand under the head the post of Assistant Director in the Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” Department of Tourism with a view to increase the number of posts reserv­ [Failure to issue G.P. Fund Account ed in the grade for Assistants and and Compulsory Deposit Account slips Senior Stenographers(35)] to the employees of the DeDartmen'f of Tourism on early basis (42)] “That the demand under the head Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100” “That the demand under the head Tourism be reduced by Rs 100.” [Failure to convert 80 per cent of 3 years old temporary posts of Class II/ [Failure to modify the recruitment Class 111/Class IV into permanent rules for the post of Assistant in the posts in accordance with the instruc­ Department of Tourism (Hqrs.) with a tions of the Government on year to view to reduce direct recruitment to year basis (36)] the grade to 50 per cent (43)]

“That the demand under the head “That the demand under the head Tourism be reduced by Rs 100.” Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” [Failure to pay special pay to Tele­ [Failure to modify the recruitment phone Operators of the Department of rules for the post of Senior Stenogra­ Tourism as per orders of the Ministry pher in the Department of Tourism of Finance No. 6(15)-EIII(B)/73, dated (Hqrs.) with a view to reduce the 20th September, 1974 (37)] direct recruitment to the grade to 50 “That the demand under the head per cent (44)] Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” “That the demand under the head [Failure to confirm the telephone Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” operators of the Department of Tou­ rism even though they have completed [Need to amend the recruitment a number of years of service(38)] vules for the posts of LDCs in the De» i* 7 * * ot t o , m k m * * m Li3bri s. M. Baaeriee] “That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ parlment of Tourism for malting pro- tion be reduced by Rs. 100.” vision lor promotion of educationally qualified Class IV employees of the [Need to confirm all temporary em­ Department of Tourism as per orders ployees working in the DGCA (Hqrs.) o f the Department of Personnel and and the Ministry of Tourism and Civil Adr liuistrative Reforms (45)] Aviation who have completed more than two years service (50)] ‘That the demand under the head Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100." “That the demand under the head [Need to amend the recruitment Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ rules relating to the posts of Senior/ tion be reduced by Rs. 100.” Junior Investigators and computors in the Department of Tourism in accord­ [Need to review the recruitment ance with the instructions contained in rules pertaining to the non-Secretarinl the Department of Personnel Memo­ staff working in the DGCA (Hqrs.) randum No 2/43/71-CS (II), dated the (51)] 23rd November, 1971 (46) J “That the demand under the head ‘That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” tion be reduced by Rs. 100.”

[Failure to reply to a large number [Failure to confirm Class IV and of representations addressed to the Class III employees of the Deportment Department of Tourism by the mem­ of Tourism against Ihe permanent bers of the staff on matters vitally posts lying vacant in these grades (52) | affecting them (47)1 "That the demand under the head SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH­ Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ NAN: I beg to move: tion be reduced by Rs. 100.”

‘That the demand under the head [Failure in extending the runwaj in Tourism be reduced to Re. 1.” Coimbatore (Peelamedu) airport to enable Boeings to land (5^)] [Failure to encourage tourism among common people by constructing a “That the demand under the head chain of cheap hotels in different parts Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ of thu* country (10)j tion be reduced by Rs 100.”

“That the demand under the head [Failure to pay adequate attention to Tourism be reduced to Re. 1.” the maintenance of toilets and provide other facilities at the airports (54)] [Need to provide more tourist faci­ lities in South India (ll)1! “That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia-- “ fhat the demand under the head tion be reduced by Rs 100.” Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ tion be reduced by Rs. 100.'' [Failure to maintain international standards at Palam Airport of the ins* [Failure to convert non-technical ex­ trumental landing service and causing: cadre posts in the office of the DGCA hazards to flight operations (55)] into ministerial posts and include them in CSS/CSCS in terms of the Depart­ “That the demand under the head ment of Personnel orders of March Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviah 1972 (49 )] tion be reduced by Rs. 100.’* m vAmm*to,tw<8Am T^ ^ nkCkAl ** t- BUn„ ^ uninterrupted (.Need to extend passenger bus facili- ftW wXlAy a* Fal*m Airport(56)] ties from Bhuj to Kandla(63)]

“That the demand under the head That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia Ministry of Toumm and Civil Avia? tion be reduced by Rs 100 ” tion be reduced by Rs 100 ” [Failure to check the influx of un» [Need to connect Ahmedabad and authorised persons and non-passenger* Kandla by air(64)j on the ♦nrmac of airports (*57)] the demand under the head “That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia Ministry of Tourism and Civil A\ia tion be reduced by Rs 100’ tion be leduced by Rs 100 " [Need to increase seating accommo­ [Need to reduce prices of refresh dation for passengers at Madras air- tnents at airport restaurants and port before passing through security cafes(58)] check(65)] ‘ That the demand under the heaa Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia That the demand under the heat? Ministry oi Tourism and Civil A\ la tion be reduced b\ Rs 100 tion be reduced by Rs 100 [Need to improve facilities for on­ INeed to introduce connecting air ward flights and provide necessary n service from Bombay and Calcutta to iorm a tion to passengers within 24 i oimbatore for tourists to Ootacaimun, hour* of booking^*)) ] Vlalampu/ha and other touri t centres (fob) | Th »t the demand unclti the head Ministry ot Tounsm and Civil Avi° tion be i educed by Rs 100 * That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia [Need to improve standard of food hon be reduced by Rs 100 served on 1AC flights and avoid serv­ ing of st«ile foodstuff60)] {Need to provide facilities for tourist accommodation for industrial workers ‘That the demand under the head mri officc employees on concessional Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avi la es in hill stations and tourist centres tion be reduced by Rs 100 ' (67)]

iNeed to make provision for over­ lhal the demand under the head night stay for passengers at Bombay Mmisirv ot Tourism and Cm] A\n- Calcutta and Madras airports when tion be reductd by Rs 100 reaching late at night and continuing; rheir journev by an early morning (Failure to maintain properly fl)8ht(61>] and systematical^ the GP Fund “That the demand under the head Account of Class IV emploj ees Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia and Compulsory Deposit Scheme tion be reduced bv Rs 100 ” Account of Employees of the DGCA and need to issue slips of (Need to extend Bombay-Rajkof Account to them as has been done flight to Kandla (62)] bv other offices of the Government of India (B8)] “That the demand under the head Ministry of Tourism and Civil Avia­ “That the demand under the head tion, be reduced by Be 100" Tourism be reduced by Rs 100.” I7X D G tm-Tf-Min. of m x 10, T o u r im fc Ctoll Aviation 17 %

[Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan] to private operators in the country. It is significant, from the long list given [Need to provide tourist facili­ by the Minister and also the Ion# ties in Kodaikanal, Ootacamund queues that we see at all the booking and other hill stations in Tamil offices of Indian Airlines that, however Nadu (70)]. good services they may be given, whatever regular timings they may have started keeping up and whatever “That the demand under the head efficiency they may have shown, they Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100.” are still not in a position to cope up [Need to provide tourist guides with the increasing demand of air with better emoluments and con­ traffic this country needs today. My ditions of service (71)]. humble suggestion is that all those routes which the Indian Airlines are “That the demand under the head not able to cope up with and where Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100 ” they do not have the capacity to intro­ duce more flights in the near future, [Need to appoint housekeepers should be seriously considered being in all dak and tourist bungalows given to the private operators. Just to supervise the maintenance and saying that private operators are running of these bungalows effi­ allowed to operate such and such a ciently (72)]. route is not enough; they should be given some sort of a guarantee as to SHRI C. H. MOHAMED KOYA how long they are going to be allowed (Manjiri): I beg to mover- to operate on those routes. Unless they are given such a guarantee, I don't “That the demand under the head think any private operator is going to Tourism be reduced by Rs. 100” be willing to go and operate on the routes mentioned by the Government [Delay in constructing Calicut It is very important that in the case aerodome (48)]. of these routes which are given to the MR. SPEAKER: The cut motions are private operators, the air-craft that is also before the House. going to be used by them, should be safe and comfortable enough for fly­ ing. So, it is also important that the SHRI D. P. JADEJA (Jamnagar) Government should give very serious Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the consideration to this point and allow Demands for Grants for the Ministry these operators to import the modern of Tourism and Civil Aviation. Before turbo proposed engine aircraft which 1 say anything more, I would like to can be got on easy payment or instal­ compliment the Minister and his ment basis. That I leave tn the Ministry for the significant progress Ministry, but my main request is that made in the developmental activities all those routes on which we cannot that have been taken up. I will not operate should be allowed to private go into all the details of the achieve­ operators on more liberal terms ments that has taken place, but 1 would make a few suggestions which Along with this, there is a growing I feel are important as far as the demand in our country for cargo development of ,is transportation from one centre to an­ concerned. other within the country itself. I would request the Government to con­ To begin with, I would mention sider private operators to carry our something about Civil Aviation. A cargo from centres like Madras, Cochin few days back, the Minister of Tourism and places in Gujarat to places like and Civil Aviation, while replying to Bombay and Calcutta where today ft question in Parliament, gave a long there is a growing demand ol marine list of the routes that are being offered products being exported. On account { 173 VAOAKHA» , 188ft (SAKA) Touriim* Civil ij 4 Aviation » f lack til transportation facilities, we doing a service to our country and will are not abl* to earn valuable foreign be saving a lot of foreign exchange, exchange which is still lying in our cold storages at these three places that I have mentioned. I am sure, the Now a word about ITDC. We just Ministry will give a serious thought listened to Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan and allow private enterprises to de­ mentioning quite a lot about ITDC velop along with our airlines. and I would not like to contradict what she said, but would like to put forward certain facts which are ap­ Now a word about Air Xndia. Today, preciated not only by Indians but by is considered to be the safest foreigners also. airline in the world. We, as Indians, are really proud of it, that Air India is praised in these terms. Not only ITDC has set a new trend in this do they consider it as the safest air­ country. They have set a trend where­ line, but they also consider it to be by they have taught the hoteliers in the international airline which gives India and have shown to the hoteliers the best service on flights and on abroad what Indians can do. Though ground. We are proud of that; we ITDC is an Indian enterprise, it can are more proud of the engineers and do much more than what foreign ex­ the pilots, because even when on perts have been able to do. There foreign airlines, they have an Tndian was a time some 15 years back, when pilot, they mention that such and such our hotels used to put up a board flight is manned by a pilot from India. outside saying that it was managed They compliment the Indian engineers by such and such company affiliated pilots and all those concerned with with some U.K. or U.S.A. agency. Civil Aviation and Air India, in parti­ Today, the tourists who come to India cular. do not want to see that board; they would rather see a board of ITDC and There are certain routes from would make a enquiry whether it was Bombay and from Delhi to Middle- an ITDC hotel. ITDC hotels have East operated by Air India, but there shown what is interior decor as far as are few flights to these places and Indian decor is concerned. They have they are not enough. The statistics shown what is Indian classical music will show that Air India Cargo flights and what are Indian classical dances going to Middle-East are full and there and what is Indian culture. They is no space left in them. The Officers have shown what is Indian hospitality. concerned wilh the cargo transporta­ They have shown what is Indian re­ tion are doing a good job, but today gional food, i compliment the Gov­ the demand for transportation of cargo ernment, more so the ITDC for having to the Middle-East has grown tre­ really shown to the foreigner what mendously and our exports have gone India really is. But one word against up so much that these few aircrafts ITDC and that is that though, of that are operated by Air India are not course, it was mentioned that ITDC enough to meet the total demand. is out of the red—most of their hotels, Here is another area where Air India and compliments to them and they are should allow private operators to doing a good job—

[Shci D. P. JadeiaJ i* p m m m countries also send tn«*r $0vurt*t» to w r country. Let not the ITDC the Government of India and the State Tourist Develop* An Ecology Workshop waft held at ment Corporations compete with each Bharatpur and I believe they have other. Let them be complementary to come out with recommendations for each other.... tourism development in this country, more so on wild-life tourism. 1 wouW MR- SPEAKER: The hon. Member's only like to know whether the Govern­ time is up. ment is going to encourage exclusive wild-life tours in this country or not. SHRI D. P. JADEJA: I will take a few minutes. Another very interesting thing is The international tourist attraction that on page 18 of the report they have centres which could be developed and mentioned about a Travel Seminar which are new in this country should which was held in Yugoslavia m which be taken up by the ITDC. The local they have discussed about the ill- tourism, the tourism that is to be en­ effects of mass tourism and its pre­ couraged for the Indians, should be vention. Here, we are trying to en­ taken up by the State Government courage tourism. We are encouraging tourist department. muss tourism and theie is a section in the world who are trying to Ftop I will take five minutes more it or come in the way of mass tounsm, I would like to know the Government's MR. SPEAKER; I think there are a reactions to this report on the ill large number of Congress Members eftects of mass tourism. who want to speak.... SHRI D. P. JADEJA: There are less A very vital point about beach number of members from this side. development in our country. Beach development does not mean the same MR. SPEAKER: So I would request everywhere. It does not mean that if the hon. Members to confine their you develop Kovalam. the type of remarks 1o only ten minutes. tourists that come to Kovalam are going to be the same who are going SHRI D. P. JADEJA: A word about to come to Lakshadwm because heaoh tourism. development in the world to-day can \>e categorised in four different ways: (1) those people who come for the A mention has been made about sea sports only. They come for enter­ Spanish literature. A lot of Spanish tainment as far as games in the sea literature has been published by the are concerned. The second category Government of India’s Deportment of is those people who come for the sun Tourism. I would only like to know and the sand aud would like occasion­ whether this Spanish literature is only ally to visit nearhbout places. The restricted to Spain alone or it goes third category is those who come for to those 24 Spanish-speaking countries a study of the marine life and the of Latin America and if they are going fourth category is those who want to to Latin America, what is the agency be away from the regular life. They or mode of distribution? I personally want to be away from all the noise of feel that these 24 countries are neglec­ the cities and the entertainments of ted. Out of these 24 Latin/American the cities. They want to be away countries, we hardly get 1 per cent of from people and want to be alone. the tourist traffic. It 1ft not that the They want to remain completely tourists do not want to come but we secluded. They want to live a simple have not been aide to reach them nor life and eat simple food. What have their organizations which can see to we done to develop beech tourism m M VAISAKHA38,WW(SA*(A) Touritm ft Civil ij$ ™ Aviation f*tr «• tftlfte tour dtltorant categories be very w«U developed to attract «tt» concema&d? tourists. "* Now, to and, I would like to draw Recently, 1 had a chance of going the attention of the Government of round the world. I have visited many India as far as the development of countries in Europe, America and tourism in Gujarat is concerned. many other places in the Far East. Tourism in Gujarat, as tic as, inter­ Some places are compared with the national tourism is concerned, has places in India. Those places are not come to a complete standstill. Tour only small and ordinary but nothin;; ists came to Gujarat from Udaipur. 1 considering the beauty places in India see this has been discontinued. Tht> But they create something interesting Came to Udaipur and then to Ahmed- over there to attract the tourists. abad and then on to Bombay. I went to Los Vegas which is con­ Tourists will not come from Bombay sidered to be an important attract ve to Ahmedabad and go back to Bomoay tourist centre in the world. What only. Only round-the-country tourists this Los Vegas? It is only a rocky came to Jaipur and Udaipur and Uieii place. There is no vegetation. The went to Ahmedabad and then on to ram is also scanty. They have to go Bombay. Now, they have stopped for nearly 100 miles to have water coming to Ahmedabad. Furthermore, But m order to earn foreign exchange we have the Sasan Gir complex where they have developed the place aid tourists used to come via Bombay. made it an attractive tourist centre. I They used to come to an aerodrome am not suggesting that our Govern­ called Keshod. Now that air-fleld is ment should also adopt the same basis out of oider. I do not know when the as has been done in the case of Los government is going to see to it that Vejas. At Los Vegas everything that this air-field is commissioned. is required by the human beings is Lu lig provided. But our tradition and Without this air-fi?ld the foreign culture will not al1 ow all those things. tourists have stopped coming. I would request the Government to give moic If a rocky place like Los Vegas can consideration to the development of bo made an attractive place for the tourism in Gujarat because to-eay tourists, why is it not possible to Gujarat i& under the President's Rule. develop beauty spots in India where MR. SPEAKER You should con­ there is plenty of natural beuuty clude with Gujarat. spots? SHRI D. P. JADEJA- I want Io say I happened to meet some of the a word about Himachal Pradesh end tourist officers in those western coun­ Orissa. tries. In Toronto (Canada) a south Indian lady is m charge of Indian MR. SPEAKER: No. You have al­ tourist centre. In Miami (USA) a ready taken fifteen minutes. south Indian is incharge of tourism I asked them as to why do you not SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN suggest to the foreigners—Caradians (M&durai>: Mr. Speaker, in India and Americans,—to visit Madurai, tourism is not looked upon as an im> Trivandrum and Kanya Kumari? They portant industry. But many countries blamed the IAC. They said that the in the world look upon tourism as an schedule of the IAC was not conducive important industry because they earn to them. foreign exchange. All over India— from Arunachal Pradesh to Kanya When they think of ‘south* they Kumari and Gujarat to Bengal, wc have in mind only Madras and Maba- have got natural beauty places and balipuram. After Madras, the tourists the beauty spots In these places can want i f go to Madurai and then to *79 DO 1970*77—Jfi*. of MAY 10* JOTS " ftMtttn* Ik M iAviation i$0-

[Stari R. V. Swaminathan] our face and we are a bit ashamed about it. Once upon a time IAC was Trivandrum. They are very much also serving very good food but it was interested to see the Meenakshi tem­ stopped and I do not know why they ple. From there they want to so to did that. Then they were not giving, Kovalam in Trivandrum. Previously, anything at all. Then they started the air service was from Madras to giving only coffee or tea; then they Madurai and Trivandrum to . began to £ve some biscuits. Now they This service has been stopped. I do are giving bread; I don’t know wbat not know the reason. Now there is no type of bread it is. air connection between Madurai and Trivandrum. A tourist who goes to For the air journey from Madras to Madras wants to go to Madurai to Delhi I pay Rs. 625. If this is not see the Meenakshi temple and Tenkudi sufficient to give good food, let this be wild sanctuary and also the Rame- increased by Rs. 10. When I already swaram island. Thereafter, he would pay RS. 625, I can afford to pay even like to go to Trivandrum and Kanya- Rs. 635. This is one thing which I kumari. request the hon. Minister to consider. Regarding modernisation of the air­ I happened to be invited by a ports, this is also a thing which should Canadian for a dinner in his house. be looked into. It is a very important He is a merchant, running a chain of thing. As far as Madurai is concern­ super bazars in Canada. He told me ed, I want to say this. There was a that he was in Madurai only last year. proposal to take Boeing 737 from When 1 said, I am from Madurai, he Delhi to Madras, Madurai and then to felt happy. 1 asked him as to what Trivandrum. It could not be done be­ were the places which he visited from cause Madurai aiit>ort was not oro. Madurai. He said that he wanted to perly developed. For landing Boeing go to Trivandrum to Kovalam etc. 737. The recarpeting of the runway Since there was no air service he had to be done, the carriageway had could not go there. He had there­ to be lengthened. I have written fore to return from Madurai to Madras. several letters to the Civil Aviation Although he wanted very much to go Authorities. I request the hon. to Trivandrum, he could not do so. Minister to look into it. The traffic From Delhi, if I want to go to Madurai at Madurai airport is increasing dav I cannot go on the same day. I have by day and therefore Madurai airport to stop for and waste one day at should be strengthened and modernis­ Madras. Regarding the IACs re- ed. There are very many tourist schedule of timings, the concerned attractions around Madurai, like Members of that area sKould be taken Thekkedi, Courttalam, Kanyakumari, into confidence by the hon. Minister. Rameswaram Island, etc. These are They should be consulted whether the places to which we should give more timings are suitable to them or not. attention. Night landing facilities He should look to the convenience of should also be arranged at Madurai. not only the tourists but also the local This is my request to the hon. people. Minister. Regarding food served on the IAC Regarding Madras airport, it is one olanes is very bad and inferior. But of our international airports. Jumbo the food supplied by the Air India on 747 is already coming oftce in a week. its planes is very superior compared It may be increased also and airbus is to that on any airways in the world. going to be introduced by the end of If a foreigner comes from a foreign this year. But the present airport country to Bombay and catches the accommodation is not sufficient to ac­ next flight to either Madras or Delhi, commodate all the passengers. Ex­ he finds that he gets a food which pansion of the capacity of the airport is very much Inferior. 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[Shri N. K. Sanghi] I know it Is costly to build hotels. But what have you done to provide the world of 2000 lakhs. The total for. alternative accommodation? These are eign exchange revenue on this account times when tourists go to Delhi, Jaipur is Rs. 18,500 crores and in comparison or Agra and they cannot find any ac­ India hardly earns 100 crores a year. commodation. We have built five star Looking to the magnitude of the or three star hotels. It is not such ac* foreign exchange that is being spent by commodaiion that some of them want tourists in the world, we hardly get 5 Let there be an enquiry office in those pet cent. As I said, we are a sub­ places; when you have no accommoda­ continent and much more results have tion for overnight stay in such hotels to be achieved by us. or other places, let them come there and you must be able to say to them; We have to promote tourism because you can go and sleep here for the it is an industry. It brings income night. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, you have It is an exercise. It is also a window travelled all over the world; if you to the outside world. People come are unable ip get any accommodation and see this country and return with and if you go to the hotel enquiry their impressions. We have seen a office, they will guide you to keep lot of adverse publicity for this coun­ your lugguge and allow you to stay try since the emergency in the foreign with families who have such accom­ press. Bui if you go by the impres­ modation; you can have bed and sions of people who have travelled to breakfast which is of a good standard. this country, if you go by the reports Why can’t we have similar arrange­ of people who have visited this coun­ ments made where the present hotel try and seen things for themselves occupancy is fully occupied? We have during the emergency about conditions stepped up our charges from 100 to 165. in this country, it is a different picture The hon. lady member was saying 200 from that presented by a person who rupees. We are in India; and that is just sitting thousands of miles away way there should be some difference. and writing about the Indian situation. What is the service charge? You put A person who has come here and seen up your charges. Today the Indian things for himself and going back to attitude is that if a hearer does some­ his country has a different report to thing, he expecis a tip. It is not like give. We would like people to come the foreign country where once you and see what our country is, what we pay the service charge, the man will ate really doing to bring out a resur­ not look at you and even if you tip him gent India which will have its due he will return it to you. But here he place in the world development, would stare at you and jeer you if you do not pay the tip. We must have ITDC is doing a lot of work and it somr Indian approach. You may have ha® been projecting the figures; I have it at 200 or 400; the world can per­ here some figures regarding the deve­ haps afford even 500. But let us not lopment of hotels in the Fifth Plan. go in a fashion in which you will be They have built a number of youth having a service charge and then a hostels and at present they say we tip. Every man wants a small tip have about 15,000 hotel rooms and hope for doing something, if that be so, let to add about 5000 more rooms during us remove the service charges. If the Fifth Plan, which will total to somebody gets a service, he would 20.000 rooms. How do we expect to be happy to pay tt small tip. That is meet the demand when the percentage the difference we should have and of tourists increases from 5 per cent let there be an Indian approach to to 2.5 per cent? We want our birth this. rote to go down by 3-4 per cent and •even conservatively If. Our tourism is At the Palam airport' we have a not going to increase by 3-4 per cent counter. The person there gets in 38ft DO lt9*»«M nfcto VAISAKHA 20,1808 iSAKA) Tourim tk Cffcil i f f ! ^ Aviation touch with &* m>C hotels. The There I went to Ait India Office and day 1 aitasd taim about the avail- asked than for a seat fc>r Delhi. But ability of rooms. He had no idea about they could not tell me whether they the occupancy; one has to ring up could make available a seat. They the hotels and find out whether any were lukewarm about this matter and room is available. He iB there, 24 they were not responsive. But if you ‘'boors’ counter is there; at Palam he go to any other Airlines, they would should be able to say from the occu­ be able to tell you then and there whe- pancy board whether a room is avail­ there a seat is available or not. They able at Akbar or Ashoka or Janpath, are a little apathetic when an Indian so that he should be able to say: we visits them. Thereafter I had to travel have a room there, please walk in and by Japan Airlines. I feel that the these are the charges. Unless we staff should be changed once in three have an occupancy index at the air. years, so that they do not grow ves­ port there is no reason lor keeping ted interests. this sort of person there. These are small things and they are irritating. If you are in Swiizerland or Italy, the hotels are directly connected and link­ We are told by the Ministry time ed to the airport and you take the re­ and again, ihat the fares charged by ceiver off the hook and you are told the Indian Airlines are comparatively whether there is a room or not. cheaper than the fares charged by the He does not have to dial every hotel internal Airlines of ether countries in from the airport. Anyhow, we cannot the world. Here I would like to men­ have that system and we can at least tion one thing. The Indian Airlines have a man to tell them whether a are always taking the telephone con­ room is available and if so at what tact number on the tickets issued by place. We have big hotels. What them for informing them in case there about the Indian outlook in these pla­ is cancellation or a delay in the ser­ ces? The charges for meals and vices. But this has never been done everything is the same. Can we not The other day while ‘ ravelling to Jodh­ have a cafeteria where we can have pur, the Avro Aircraft was sus­ something to eat, just like the cafeteria pended and we were not informed at the Parliament House? We have that the plane would be delayed by in Lodhi Hotel a cafeteria which gives six hours. So, there is no purpose in taking the contact number so that Indian meals at a reasonable price. there will be no complaints, 'ftiere So, we should have a least one cafe­ should be some special staff posted for teria in the Five Star and other high this job. class hotels to enable people to have Indian style of meals and other dishes at a reasonable price instead of having all the dining rooms in the hotels al Now, we find that the students are a high tariff. given concessions only when they tra­ vel to their home towns. Formerly they were given concession to travel Now, the Air India is doing good anywhere in/ India and see the new work. The way they are projecting India, the developing India. When we their image is very good. Ihey are are talking of Youth forums and Youih carrying full rapacity. There is no development, for educational tours. a*~ doubt about it. But last year, we had least we should give the students this exotic birds which were transported concession, it is only during this edu­ by Air India and most of them died cational period that they can travel This had given a bad image. Once- and see a little bit of India. Once you the image is lost due to such a bap- are employed you have no time and WUAwg,—it takes a long time to build no one can afford it. I request the hon. Minister to restore the student it up. Some time back i was in Paris. s p W U m V TM tto.# UAY 10, UM t o m t o m JMHWfcm I# *

(Shri N. K. Sanghi] veloping flyh*» **ubs. pfcaae see tMt some sort oi oomnittee iseppoin- to enable them travel att ted to see that are properly look­ over India. ed after and put on a proper keel, so that they may not waste money and our Indian Airlines started a scheme to boys may receive proper training see India on a ticket of 9900 for 14 there. days and $275 tor 2i days’ travel for With these words, I support the De­ foreigners. I would like to know how mands of the Ministry of Tourism and much foreign exchange earning has Civil Aviation. been made from this scheme. There is no mention in the Ministry’s report. SHRl C. H. MOHAMED KOYA This innovation was done for the pro­ (Manjeri): Sir, I rise to impress upon motion of tourism for South Asia T. the minister the necessity of starting Year 1975. This should be continued. the Calicut Aerodrome. Assurances This sort of facility is being given by after assurances were given in this many Airlines in other countries. Simi­ House for the last ten years, bul no lar facilities, like Euro Rail pass assurance was implemented. I feel in Europe would g° a Ions way in de­ that even an assurance given in Par. veloping tourism traffic. liament has no meaning. The cons­ truction of an aerodrome et Calicut is a long and cherished ambition of the Now, I would like to mention one people of Kerala. We were happy thing as far as development of Rajas­ when the Central Government announ­ than is concerned. Rajasthan is studdL ced their decision to construct an aero­ ed with many historical monuments drome at Calicut as ealrly as 1970 like Chittorglarh Fort, Dilwara and and land acquisition completed next Ranakpur Jain temples, Siriska Came year. But we were disappointed at the Sanctuary, Bharatpur Bird Sawai continued neglect of the Central Gov­ Madhopur Game Sanctuary. At Sawai ernment towards this project. We Madhopur there is a jaipur His High­ would like the minister to throw srme ness Lodge which is open occasionally. light on this, except the usual reply This should be taken up on lease or of financial stringency! brought over so that it' can oe kept open throughout the year for travellers Calicut, as you know, is an import­ to take advantage of. Coming to ant historic business centre of Kerala. Sawai Madhopur Wild Lite Game The Malabar area produces cash crops Sanctuary. In Bharatpup you have such as pepper, ginger, cardamom, not build up the partition wall to save arecanut, cocoanut, coffee, tea, etc., and the Bird Sanctuary from urban en­ it is completely cut off from the out- croachment. This has been pending side world in the air map of India. for a number of years. If you do not The site for the construction of the do this, the Birds Sanctuary will get aerodrome was selected at Karipur destroyed and the country's wealth near Calicut and the State Govern­ lost We have been talking so much ment had already acquired land mea­ about the development of Andaman suring about 86.5076 hectares required and Nicobar Islands, but there is only for the project and the land had also a twice-a-week service to Port Blair. been handed over to the Aerodrome It is a wonderful place and I plead ihat Officer, Mangalore. In Kerala, land there should be regular Boeing pervice acquisition itself Is a tedious task. from Calcutta to Port Blair and Car Many people have to be evicted. The Nicobar to Madras. Kerala Government had spent Rs, 13 lakhs on constructing the approach road to this project. I may remind the The flying clubs In the country are minister of the assurances given fcjr receiving very little attention. They him and by his predecessor to cent* •re practically going down the drain. tenet this aerodrome, hut most unfor­ "You haw spent a lot of money In de­ tunately this was excluded from plan- ife vajbsakham , t m cbaka) ma, Aetatton - after pka- The matter i* still a sub­ beaches. We can taka package iourifta ject of jMsowiiioa between the Minis­ from Ceylon. try at Civil Aviation and the Planning Commission, though this Is a scheme The Kerala Government may not be that has been included in the draft able to improve local tourism. But the fifth plan of the Civil Aviation Government of India will be able t» Department. Therefore* I hope and earn a lot of foreign exchange if tour­ believe that the minister, who knows ism is developed in that part of the country. the problem very well, will make an announcement about the decision of Kerala is as beautiful as Hawaii but the government to start the Calicut you do not get more tourists here. If aerodrome. you go to any Indian Embassy, you would not get any information about The present Cochin aerodrome be­ the facilities of tourism about the longs to the navy and we cannot use areas one would see and for many peo­ it always. Government should take ple India ends with Madras, and no­ steps to acquire land at Edakkatvayal body knows further. All the dignata- and start a new* aerodrome there suit­ ries who get programme from the Gov. able for Boeings to land. I am told ernment of India, do not get any­ the present proposal is to expand the thing about Kerala. If you take a navy aerodrome so that Boeings may film showing the green lands, beauti­ land there. This may be a temporary ful beaches and other important pla­ measure, but as a permanent measure, ces, and exhibit it all over the world, the government should acquire, land there is ample scope for attracting so and construct a new aerodrome where many tourists. Tourism has got a very Boeings can land. good scope in Kerala, if the Govern­ ment of India gives a good puldicity I must say something about the de­ to if and also helps the State Govern­ lay in givin# luggage of Ihe passen­ ment to give facilities to tourists. gers especially at the Mangalore air­ port. Many a time, we miss the train I hope and( believe that the hon. because of the delay in handling the Minister who k nows Kerala very luggage. I think, Mangalore is the well and who knows that Kerala is only aerodrome where this thing is cri­ next to Kashmir, will do something and minally neglected. help in developing the tourists resorts in Kerala. Kerala is an important place in the tourist map of India. The ITDC has developed a tourist resort at Kovalam : if g m r | f y 13& srrrfr beach, which is a wonderful place. The Central Government should sanction wr ^rrqtr 'wrnrr | r more schemes for development of other TJ?fnw t o ft. f*r beaches. My friend from Gujarat was telling us about the development of wSfr % fa fWT w $ beaches so that foreigners who want a 3RcTT I I if w f a f f a qPfffgPT secluded life can come there. There wft ^ ^ n r 1 fw z *rt ^rr is an area in Cannanore District where European sanyasis come but the | I Government has not thought of places SPft t I ?r *frT qwrtiT f I faw of tourists for constructing hutments, qfter 1 3*% ^errfirp «Tt 11 *rrar etc. Thi» place1 is attracted all over the world for tourist resort but the sraftpff ^ 'ft# anrr Government has yet to think about *3t | \ | ? SrttsnrtV that area. The other place is Kapar where Vasco'd* Gama landed. All t w ^ % % sftir w tit ssfoicr wrt over Kerala, there are very beautiful sqpr ^fr% m tot if ? 1 ^nr m 766 LSMT m D G i * w n > ~ M kativiw* **»m * a * t t x #

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&'*+**& J*<* eft}** orV' - Vh t-**1* W*> 4jU| J* * W sjk* “ W* W%> ^ ^ V * j ^ w or'*^ ^ \j*i^ >W !jf< *e (J^J >5 j* J vjr^^ * >♦*** «£* «*** - «*• 4*e* ^ u*^ >4 ^ ^ • U3 u^*tJ jt< vJrff »3 - >» U, JH )% -r J f r u u f !$*<>**# J***' C)i* - £ <*v V* \J*y J-<3>-» V./ 5 ^ ^ ^ ^ Xi • £ h *** 4$ lf$ i. ^ - ^Jta. X ts-+'*w^ J* )JJL«S j «U» J[ (jjj *S\3 Jj\+ ^A j^J S £ ijy U J [ " U>* ^ iJ#5?**" ^ >jf 4 ^ “ >* u^)«> «»)V #> SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK t i lJ jj i ,,-aa. i_£J ,/ (Pun) The Report of the Mmislry is really very encouraging Touixst ^jJj.3 ± 4 AX. <.^vj<3 traffic hag increased I do not want to go into the figures, but there are cer­ tain areas which have not been covered **V*} £ f)»3 The Report says that sea beaches Jfe. IrfU i cyjj^^i. mountain resorts and marine duves should be developed, but nothing has W jtlfcii! u^wvlA> V been done m our area Pun Konarak and Bhubaneshwar are considered to *A~»)>3 L)1*'* Ut^* ~ be the golden triangle of tounsm Bhubaneshwar is a beautiful c ly of - lh*^' -£j ^ temples but even today group book­ ing by Boeing cannot be done Though 3 # <**f J> £ ^r*-* Jirf the Minister was kind enough to write to me m February 1975, saying that yi )»J» £*»-* *■ ^ Jl»» a Boeing service would be introduced to Bhubaneshwar nothing has been JI& « >,*<£* « u w l^ i$ ^*C, Uo done yet Smce there is no group i-tL* v>+i) )L(< jjl Ja-U5)^ booking by Boeing there is no hotel accommodation The ITDC has not set W V <-^ «£ up any hotel in Bhubaneshwar or Konarak or Puri the three most beau­ $ J ) ^ Hr'~ jj)I * «£a®^- U^C* tiful places In that area 309 DG 1976-77— Mi*k of VAI6AKBA 20,188* (SAKA) Tourism it Citrtl aio Aviation The tensile of Konsrak attracts a In the literature of the Tourist De­ i large number of visitors from out- partment there is no information about jgide. The rock cut caves of Khanda- the temples of Pvri, Konarak and jgiri, tke edicts of Asoka at Dhaulagiri Bhubaneshwar, I was informed that atod the Jaugara inscriptions of Asoka Tatas are opening a five star hotel also attract a large number of at Mangalore because of the Kudre- foreign, especially Buddhist, touriits, mukh project, but they are prepared but no facilities are available therefor to open a five star hotel in Bhuba­ their stay Or accommodation. neshwar If there is one Boeing service to that city every day, and two such hotels if there are two services a day. The $ea beach from Konarak to If the ITDC has no funds private par­ Puri is beautiful and eight years ago ties are prepared to start hotels, but the department started constructing a there must be a Boeing service, so marine drive, but only five miles were that tourists can come there. The Cal- completed and the rest remains to cutta-Delhi service starts at 7.30 from 3>e completed still. If it is completed, Delhi and reaches Calcutta at 9.30 : you cast reach Puri from Konarak with hardly 30 or 40 passengers. It within one hour. can be extended to Bhubeneshwai And we can come in the next morn­ The Archaeological Department has ing fiom Bhubaneshwar via Calcutta. ■taken up the preservation of the an­ There is no difficulty, in doing this It cient temple at Puri. The Pun temple is going empty 50 per cent of the has been found to be much more su­ seats are vacant. If there is that faci­ perior to the Konarak temple. A lew lity, than a large number of tourists months ago the Minister was kind can go there. Or we can have one enough to visit that area, but he was Delhi-Bhubaneshwar via Khajurao there Only for a few hours and service so that the tourists can go he did not want to make any commit­ there. There is a service between ment because he knows there is so Calcutta and Hyderabad. It can also much potentiality for development in touch Bhubaeshwar and link north that area, but he has done nothing So, with the south. In that way, there I request him to see that this sta are facilities and the Bhubaneswar beach is developed, which is much Airport has the facilities for landing more attractive than the Koval am of Boeings So, there is no difficulty. beach. There are absolutely no mo­ But that should be taken up by the tels available there There is one Ministry. I would urge upon the lodge called Pant Niwas, but no food Minister fKfot Bhubaneshwar should ib available there and so the tourists be connected with a Boeing either carry food from Bhubaneshwar and with Calcutta-Hyderabad or Delhi- come back in the same car. Bhubaneswar or via Khajurao or Khaiuraho or Banaras.

Steps should be taken to develop Long ago, when Dr Karan Singh the National Park at Simlipal where was in charge, at that time, there was you can see tigers roaming about m a proposal to set up a cyclone warning the daytime. No funds have been radar station in Paradeep. But, so provided for its development, though it far nothing has been done. When is much more beautiful than Kaztr- the Demands for Grants of these anga. Similarly, Chilka Lake is a things come, then only the question hird sanctuary where in winter a of cyclone warning radar station large number of birds migrate from comes. As far as the eastern region the Himalayan areas. If developed, it id concerned. It is always affected ■can attract a large number of tour­ cyclone. From VisMg upto Mldnapur. ists. that is the only place which can give H it && m Wtmrim * * * * * * M 2

JSStai tfanamdli Ffctnaik] xsstA p a l a m m y . w , D m * - Opeaker, Six, I am thankful a really good warning to the people, to the tom, Ifambera Iqr flwir anti 'the Government Is quite awere Jiments and the good things they nave of the problem. So far no step hoe yet said About the activities of the Minis­ been taken to set up a cyclone warn­ try of Tourism and Civil Aviation. I ing station in Paradeep and it is be­ am also thankful to those who have cause the zone is cyclonically affected. made some good suggestions and constructive criticism about the work­ It was promised by the previous Mi­ ing of the Ministry. nister in this House and 1 would re­ quest the present Minister to take up It has been appreciated rad realised 1 this matter and see that the Radar by one and all that tourism is a very Station is immediately set up. important economic activity and an'in­ dustry. It is also accepted by the Formerly, there was an air ser­ worst sceptics all over the world that vice between Calcutta-Rourkela and Bhubaneswar which had been with­ this is an important activity by all drawn. From Bhubaneswar to Rour- standards. It is something in which all countries, particularly the develop­ kela, it is a distance of 300 miles. One ing countries should take more and has to travel in round about way. more interest. Even the world’s best Why should not an air service be economists have now realised that this started between these two places? is an up and coming industry and it Now, a second service has been in­ has four very imortant and signifi­ troduced between Calcutta and Bhu­ cant plus points in its favour. One baneswar. It should go to Rourkela is that according to the incremental and Jharagoda. So, the second service capital output ratio formula it has introduced between Bhubaneswar to been calculated that investment in Calcutta does not carry more passen­ tourism is the best and the most effi­ gers, but if it comeg via Rourkela, cient way of earning foreign exchange there are a large number of passen­ as compared to investment in other gers, the Government Servants and commodity producing industries. And others who come for some business secondly, tourism gives the maximum to Rourkela. Then there is also this return for minimum investment and steel authority who has got some without any depletion of any of our work in Bhubaneswar who can avail national resources. The latter fact of this facility. If they have really in­ is more important, because in other troduced a second service for the be­ export-oriented industries, a great nefit of the people—it must come via deal of raw material and power is Rourkela and Bhubaneswar—Rourkela consumed for producing a particular Calcutta or Calcutta-Rourkela-Bhu- commodity before it is exported and baneswar. So, it can help the people in that way, our national resources are as well as the internal traffic of the depleted to that extent. In tourism, State and also save a lot of T.A. & we do not export anything, our exports D.A. of the Government Servants be­ are invisible. We have what nature cause they can avail of air facilities. has given us and what our ingenious 1 think the Orissa Government has and very skilful human beings have also written about this matter. I think produced. We show them to the tour­ the Minister will examine this and ists and earn very useful foreign ex­ do whatever is possible. change.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND Thirdly( the potential of employ­ CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SUREN- ment in tourism has also been appre­ ciated. It is very very high specially K * & $tirt9~rt-~Min.of VA1&AJBH& * iSAKA) Kwrtsm & Citrtl 214 ’ Aoiotion in regard our educated unemployed our infra-strufcturai set-up as early as in the country> Fourthly, the “Multi­ possible. plier Effect” of our tourism on our economy has been calculatod to be 3.2 There are a lot of deficiencies at the lowest and 3.0 at the highest which should be made up, and we which means that this particular in­ have to keep before ourselves clearly dustry generates more business op­ defined targets of annual growth. We portunities and more jobs for our citi­ have laid down a number of targets zens than any other industry in the of annual growth for ourselves. Also, country of the same size and magni­ the Department has kept before itself tude. certain guidelines which can be re­ garded as basic considerations behind Thus, it has been realised and ap­ the policy of encouraging foreign preciated that tourism is a very im­ tourists to India. portant activity and industry in deve­ loping countries because 1 does solve A criticism has recently been made our balance of paymen difficulties and specially the Estimates Committee and our chronic shortage of foreign of Parliament has referred to this exchange. question that Hie Department does not have a policy, a national policy on In the context of our conditions, the tourism. This is a matter which my opportunities of developing tourism m senior colleague will deal with when our country are immense. Ours is a he replies to the debate. At this land which has received the choicest point of time, I would like to mention gifts from mother nature. As some that while it is true that we do not hon. Members have said, we have have a formal policy, nonetheless we high snow-capped mountains; we have are going all along following certain deserts; we have tropical forests and guidelines and plans which were every type of scenic beauty that one evolved and approved by the Plan­ can really wish for to feast one’s eyes ning Commission. We have achieved on Man has also lent his hand m considerable success in our efforts and enriching our lives. Durmg the past It would not be correct to say that thousands of years our very skilful we have been steering a rudderless artists have created some exquisite ship, so-to-speak, for all these years pieces of art and architecture all over We have been going all along certain this vast land for foreigners to come well defined guidelines and they and see. have paid us good dividends.

Above all, our ancient culture and I am not going into the details of civilisation has also given us a unique the achievements of our Ministry. life style, a unique' mental attitude, They have Been exhaustively given towards life here and the life here­ in the Annual Report of our Ministry after which is an enigma to the people which the hon. Members must havr of the Occident who are fasinated by read. I would however like to poin. our country. They want to come here out and highlight a few of the mart and see our country. It is now upto important achievements of the De­ us to gear ourselves up and to take partment. In regard to tourist an 1- full advantage of 'the assets we pos­ vals, in the ’50s, we had only 20,000 sess and attract more and more tourists tourists coming to our country. In to our country. This has been appre­ the last 20-25 years, the figure has ciated by the Department and we risen to 4.65 lakhs in 1975, registering have conducted a number of studies an increase of 10 per cent over the which have been particularly aimed previous year. This itself may not ap­ at promoting tourism and finding out pear to be very spectacular and re­ way® and means to fill up the gaps in markable achievement. But it has to ~ 2I) DG 1976-77-Min. of MAY 10, 1976~ Tourism & Civil Aviation 2J6

[Shri Surendra Pal Singh) only 12 per cent wbcereas our growth rate during the same period came to be viewed in the overall context of 21. per cent. So, in that regard, our tourism all over the world. In order to appreciate how much we have performance has been something about which we can really feel satisfied and achieved, what it means, we must t ake prou~ · 'i'nto account the fact that during the last couple of years, because of esca- lation in prices, the price hike and All these things indicate th at recession all over the \VOrld. th2 long- Tourism is no longer a 'fad' a.s some haul traffic in the world has gone people r all it or something we have d own by 15 per cent., and the growth to humour. It is ncif so; it is a very of tourism in the world context has important economic activity wliich is gone up by only 2 per cent wlw:·eas beneficial to 1he economy of our conn- our growth rate has go11e up by 10 try. anc. I think a country like India per cent. When we compar e our should pay more attention to it and get the m aximum benefit out of it. ·growth of 10 per cent with 2 n·~r cent ~or ld growth we could really appre- Now. Shrimati P arvathi K rishnan Cia te the significance of our achieve- ment. und one or two other Members h ad said that our share of world traffic a nd world tourism is very small and Another thing. worth remembering that we do not compare favourably is that the average stay of a tourist with Yugoslavia, Spa1n, Mexico et c. in India is 25 days. This is t he highest It is true 1hat. w hen romparerl 1o ihe fn the world. The worlcl average- i.s perform;omce of those countries. our unly three to four days per tourist performance does not compare credi- whereas, in our country. a 1ourist tably. But our achievement has to l.'e ~pends 25 days or nigh!s--Hnd this seen in th e ligh t of our lirniiaHom. 'destina tion' tourism is far ~~ <:re i)er:eficial . . Our limitations a re. hrst of dl. short- age of funds. We do not hav9 w ith other countries in our neigh'JoUr- 1o 1975 t he estimated world receipt hood. They spent 30 per cent to 40 :Irom trurism showed a growth rate of per cent on Tourism promotion where- a i 7 XX* me-77-Mrn. of VA1SAKEA 20,1898 (SAKA) Touritm k Civil a i 8 Aviation 4ft India spent only 5 per cent So, In Africa gets 24 par cent, Middle-East that regard, our performance is really gets 20 7 per cent and Pacific and Far- creditable. East 44.8 per cent. Very little is left for South Asia in which India lies. India's share in South Asia is of the Another limitation ia our distance order of 34.6 per cent and the share of from the toufTst ^eheraflng' markets. other countries in our neighbourhood Most of the tourists come from western is: Pakistan 11 per cent; Nepal 5.3 per countries, from America and West cent; Shri Lanka 6.B per cent; anil European countries which are far away Iran, which is our nearest rival, it is from here and they have to spend a 33 per cent. In this background our lot of money on air journey etc. This option an3 our choice is very limited. is an inhibiting factor, to that extent. We have to operate m a very narrow fled. It is a ftoct of life which nobody can wish away. IT is a fact that tou­ It is true that out of the 213 million rism goeg & fRe" developed countries. tourists who crossed the borders all In this background, when we look over the world m 1975, India received at the achievement of nearly half a a very meagre share of only 0.22 per milllSn lour&fs, X think, it is quite cent, and out of thp estimated world encouragethg. But I do not say that receipt of foreign echxange of $ 3.9 we shoul3 be complacement about it, billions earned by the world at large, and we should not make more efforts our earnings were only Rs. 104 crores. in this direction. The fact is that many This, again, is a mere drop in the efforts are being made by the Depart­ ocean and very insignificant But. in ment Nonetheless, the 10 per cent order to understand and appreciate growth and si> many tourists m this our performance, this oroblem has to background are quite encouraging. be seen in its proper perspective. The fact of the matter is that, whether we like it or not, tourism today is tied to Shri Sanghi mentioned that the De­ development It means that the partment has no targets for the future. largest number of tounsts came from May I just point out to him and, developed and affluent countries apd through vou, Sir, to the entire House . the largest number of tourists goes to developed countries. The House will SHRI VASANT SATHE He said that be interested in knowing that nearly you have low targets. 93 2 per cent of the tourists go to developed countries, and the developing world—including Africa, Asia and SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH Our Latin America and the rest—which is targets are realistic, which we may be a vast area in terms of size gets only able to achieve. We do not want to 6 8 per cent of the world tourist traffic. fix higher targets which we cannot This is something which has to be achieve. It is no use setting high tar­ appreciated 1o understand what we gets which cannot be achieved In are doing and achieving. Again, out view of the circumstances prevailing of this 6.8 per cent, if we take out around us, we are properly geared up countries like Australia, New Zealand and are making preparations to see and Japan which lie in the Asian that we are able to receive about 8 lakh region but which are developed coun­ tourists per year after the end of the tries, then the share of the genuinely 5th Plan The Ministry has taken a developing countries goes down to ap­ number of steps to see that this rate proximately 4 1/2 or 5 per cent. It of growth continues and the rise is will also be relevant to note here that maintained all through and all the in­ out of the 6.8 per cent tourists who frastructural needs of the country are go to developing countries, the share fulfilled in order to receive this large of 'South TElla^'only 10 per cent. number of tourists a few years hence. ,319 DG

SHRI ZX P. JADBJA (Jamnagar);, fay. In this way we propose to fill OP What about hotel accommodation? the gap. SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH: Sir, Now, the hon. Member Mr. S athe it is true that in the setting up of in­ raised a point whether all will be five- frastructure, hotel accommodation is star hotels. Our policy is to go in for very basic, and we are short of hotel more and more two and three-star accommodation, but tbis is a matter hotels. As far as ITDC is concerned, which we are very seriously seized of they will concentrate on accommoda­ and we are ploing our best to make tion which will cater to the needs °f good the deficiency. The position is the middle income group. that in 1973, we had 10,754 hotel rooms. By the end of 1975. as a result of our As far as the private sector is con­ efforts and the efforts of the private cerned, we will leave it open to them. entrepreneurs, this figure has risen to It is entirely left to them whether they 15,462. That means, within a period will put up five-tar hotels or two-star of less than three years, we have in­ hotels or three-starhotels, but as far creased our hotel accommodation by as we are concerned, we will try and 50 per cent we are still short of 11,000 encourage them to go in for cheaper rooms which we have to build as early type of accommodation also. They go as possible to make ourselves ready by market conditions. for receiving 8 lakh tourists from 1978 onwards. This gap is sought to be As far as the matter of loans, raised filled up through the activities of the by Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan, is con­ private sector organizations as well as cerned, we have a scheme whereby we ITDC and to a certain extent through give loans to private entrepreneurs for the Department of Tourism also. We constructing hotels. This is being have approved 79 new hotel projects done in order to fill up the gap which in the private sector. When they are I mentioned earlier because a large completed, they will give us 7,200 addi­ amount of accommodation is required tional rooms in the next two or three by the country. We are unable to do years. it ourselves. We are encouraging pri­ vate hoteliers to come also and loan and incentives are given for construct­ 14 hrs. ing hotels.

SHRIMATI PARVATHI KPISH- Air transport is another bottleneck NAN. I mean, is the private sector which creates difficulties in the deve­ being given loans? lopment of tourism. In that respect also, both our national carriers are taking certain steps. For instance. Air SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH: I India is going in for more jumbos in will take a note of that point and future. They are increasing their fleet come to that later on. strength and the Indian Airlines has decided to purchase Air Buses and I ITDC intends to build hotels and think three of them will be coming by motels also. When their schemes are the year’s end and there will be more completed, they will give us an addi­ to follow later on. They are also going tional accommodation to the extent of through an exercise for selecting a 2500 rooms. That comes to about 9700 short-haul plane for regional and and the balance, we are hoping would feeder routes and once these new air­ be made up by the activities of the planes come to the Indian Airlines, I Department of Tourism who are also think this problem will be solved. constructing travel lodges and youth hostels and what we call supplement­ In the publicity field, a well-co­ ary accommodation all over the coun- / ordinated publicity and promotional marketing programme to1 uattar way 2 t r VA& A K B A Q im (SAKA) tf»tTitm*Cwp 222 A via tion t&rough our o{Stags abroad as wen as SHRX VASANT SATHE: Do we hava by promotional teams abroad. an'office in japan? Becsntly we sent a team to Australia, Japan and Middle East where our offi­ SHRI SURENDRA PAL SjySGH: Yes, cers and representatives of the travel we have. There is a proposal to open trade contacted the local people in an office in Osaka and later on, in order to create interest in India. Hong Kong also.

As regards new offices, a reference SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- hag been made that our tourism is all NAN; What about African countnes? western-oriented. I think Shrimati You do not have any office anywhere? Parvathi Krishnan mentioned that. She also said that we are not making any SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH: So efforts to attract more tourists from far we have not paid attention to South East Asia and the Middle East. Africa, but I have taken a note of what That is not so. It is a fact that more you have said. We will think of that touristg come from Western countries. also. We have very good economic as Certainly, I think it is not her intention well as political relations with the that we should stop them coming to African countries. We are making a our country. But what we are doing sort of a survey to And out what possi­ is that, in oddition to that...... bilities there are and to what extent we can go in opening offices there. We SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- will see what can be done to streng­ NAN: I said—African countries also. then our relations with the African countries, particularly, with the new* SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH: We ly-independenlt countries of Africa are making every effort possible to tap because in the political field a$ also new sources of tourists. For instance, in the economic field pur relations in the Middle East, we have opened with them are getting closer and clo­ an office in Kuwait---- ser. In this field also we shall try to come closer. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN: Only in Kuwait. As regards informative and effective literature, something has been said that our publicity material is not upto SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH. It the mark. I do not agree with that is just a beginning. We have to see We are producing 5 million units of the performance of the Kuwait office tourist literature in various languages and if we And that more and more including Arabic and Persian. I think tourists are coming and that we need that our productions and our publica­ more offices, certainly we will open tions have been greatly appreciated all more offices. For instance, there is a the world over, and our publications ptoposal to open an office in Iran. A have won many international awards large number of Iranians want to come to India. In fact we are mindful of Special concessional fares have also the fact that we have to pay more at­ been offered by Air India from count­ tention to our neighbours, to South- ries like America, Australia, Gulf, East Asia, to the Middle-East and try Europe and Japan to attract more tou­ to get more and more people from rists. there. Then, efforts are made to at­ tract Buddhist tourists to India. Many SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- of them are coming from Japan, from NAN: It should be dealt with by the Sri Lanka, Thailand, etc. and their Department of Tourism and not by number it Increasing every year. It the rtDC. The Department of Tou­ is not that we are not paying attention rism has a much wider expertise. to South-East Arts.. That is the point. 223 DG 1W6-77—Min. of HAT lft, 19ft T ourism * CSftU AtHotio* 234 SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH: ing is gone into v*ry carefully, Tourist literature is being made by incumbent is chosen with utmost e w t the ITDC on behalf of the Depart­ ment of Tourism. The suggestion About the loans, I have already ans­ made by the hon. Member will be wered. considered. We are satisfied with their oerformance and so ig the case with Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan said the travel agents and travel agencies that our figure of 4,65,000 is not re­ all over the world. flecting thef correct picture and that the growth rate comparison is iUuso> ry. From 1964 to 1974 our tourist arri­ Indian Air Lines have introduced vals have been rising at an annual “Discover India” fares on their ser­ compound rate of U per cent. We are vices. Indian Air Lines have introduc­ going up and up every year. It is not ed this 21 day fare. These are ail a sudden spurt. We have been main­ measures to attract more and more taining a growth rate of 11 per cent tourists. right through but in 1975 it was 10 per cent. We expected 15 per cent, but Something was said about the we could not reach that figure. customs difficulties and formali­ ties It is true that some foreign Shri Koya praised our Kovalam tourists had complained about the project. But he also said that there are harassment that was caused 1o them other beautiful places m Kerala which as also, about the irksome formalities. can also be developed by the Central We took up the matter with the con­ Government. It is true. It is not only cerned authorities, and I am happy to in Kerala but all over India there are say that the rules and regulations have many places. Our country abounds in been regularised to a/ certain extent these places. The only difficulty is the and those rules have been streamlined financial constraints. As and when and there is less h&rssment now to we come to know about the place the tourists at the customs counter. which is attracting foreign tourists or has the potential of doing so, we deve­ I would now like to refer to a few lop it at Centra^ expense. But it is specific points raised by the hon. not possible to go everywhere and Members. develop every place. It is our inten­ tion that all beautiful places should be Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan said developed at some time or the ether. something about the postings of our officers to Overseas Offices on an ad In the end, may 1 just make an hoc basis. That is not so. We have appeal to the hon Members? It is ture a definite policy of selecting officers, that the Ministry and the Department The officers “are selected on merit and of Tourism is making a great deal of only those officers are posted abroad efforts for promotion of lounsm but who have put in more than three years no amount of effort on our part, on service at headquarters. They are tho­ fhe part of the Government machinery roughly trained before they are sent. will have the desired effect, unless we It is wrong that the rule of thumb is can have the involvement of the people applied. and the cooperation of the people of this country in this endeavour. Touri­ sm will prosper only when our foreign SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH­ guests go back from our country ha pay NAN: Have you a Selection Commit­ and contented, taking back with them tee? happy memories of thsir stay in India, and that, to a very great extent, de­ SHRJ SURENDRA PAL SINGH: pends upon how they are treated by Yes. The Minister is also involved our own people, not only by the Go­ Each and every case of foreign post- vernment agencies, but by the taxi- a *5 o / VAISAKHA 20,1698 (SAKA) Tourism & C ivil 226 A via tion drivers, Hue atoopJfceepers, the ordinary fwsr (vtwrxr) : man in ifce ataiM, efc. Our people must treat * tourist as Bn honoured guest. The tourist comes into contact with ell sorts of people end a great deal de­ forr i pends on how he is treated by every- body, as I mentioned already. If the people of the country appreciate the im­ t fsrfasr portance of tourism and if they treat *£arrw>sn* g fa? arnrf? every foreigner as an honoured guest, we will indeed be very happy and we tsranrar % fa *ferr will achieve great success in this re­ er *p*t srcnftr fasfr %, ^ ^ gard. I would therefore appeal to the f w 3 5rrf?T tfr | 1 #«rwr hon. Members for their cooperation in this regard and impress this upon all £ % -srfatar % Tran^r those with whom they come into % ftpT *rfsRr «RTTftT 5PWPTT ^ contact that with their cooperation and involvement we fan achieve great STrfrft.mfr IRTTVPT tr4avf % feTtr success and we will be able to create w r r a congenial and friendly climate for ^FT STffTgqW g r f #1 ^ WrPT^ifr, the foreigner to come and visit this country. cr*rr «rwr Sstt 3 f t $ 1 SHRI VASANT SATHE- We will convey this to taxi-drivers, to your t OTTC 5pT OTR 'ZWH officers at the airport, etc. We will convey this "to them. tftT w w fm ^TfrlT g I T O TT sfv^ir THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHEI RAJ srfFTftr M t I, ■srrr sr^r wr BAHADUR) - He is appealing to the ffw r ^ ( 1 people as a whole. 3TRT ^ 3T WK «lf *w?rr t 1 pleasant memories with him. This sort of attitude will also go a long way 3rTT JjtTT % qw?ffr ^ in bringing more and more tourists in­ to our country. sr^9T arf?^ ^rffr *rrarofr 766 LS— 8 ff*rr^r 327 3® 1976-77— Jfin. of M A T 10, 1976 feraHtm & Civil Aviation 32s

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•ftv’t a r c w m w r : *fto «rr|« tfU The department of tourism has pro­ duced some good literature and tee i m wt| gft q r? w f t t, «rr % folders. I have seen some of them. 1 «PT* % *i*TR fwnsr ^ «rrtff am sorry to say that some cl the litera­ ture regarding certain regions, on cer­ %f*R- «rtfr «rf«Rr tffaw mrtr tain aspects, particularly temples and $ 1 t ft trag % trft € ( f>rf § their ruins are erroneous. They are % fa*$£ 5TRTT ^ # t, ^ full of factual mistakes and they create a wrong impression in. the minds % srt % spf if ^>fr ^n%tr 1 ot the people living here and those who come from foreign countries also. I suggest that there should be a com­ SHRI BISWANARAYAN SHASTRI mittee of experts to give guidelines to (Lakhimpur); The Ministry is designa­ the preparation of such literature and ted as the ministry of tourism and civil to scrutinise them before they are re­ aviation from this one can easily pre­ leased to Ihe public. sume that more emphasis is laid on tourism and therefore I should like to In matters of tourism* the eastern speak on tourism first. region beyond Calcutta, the five eas­ tern states and two union territories, are completely neglected. It is not my Ours is a very big country. Its flora accusation, it turns out from the re­ and launa, hills and mountms rivers port placed before us. The tourism and lakes and temples and ruins, and department have constructed hotels; what not, could be developed as spots none of them is in the eastern re­ of tourist attraction. Administratively gion. The Department has Travellers' temples and ruins of tcmpies, the De­ Lodges they are not in the eastern re­ partment of Archaeology are under the gion. The departmental Restaurants, Ministry of Education and Culture and none of them is in the eastern region. the forest reserves are under the With regard to transport facilities, they Ministry of Agriculture. It is desirable have a total fleet of 202 cars, vehicles that, there should be more co-ordina­ and vans and none of then are placed tion between the ministries concerned in the eastern region Can there be a in developing those areas into tourist- more glaring instance cf neglect than spots. this?

Apart from the commercial point of There is some restriction on the en­ try of foreign tourists into Ihe eastern view, from the point of view of nation­ region. I do not want that at the risk al Integration also, people from diffe­ of the country’^ safety and security, rent parts of the country should know undesirable tourists should be allowed what is there fn other parts of the to go there. But within that frame­ country. Therefore, there should be a work of restriction, the tourism de­ great admixture and exchange of partment could do something so that views by way of promoting tourism. the tourists could visit that area also. It is known to every student of history that since ancient times from the days Coming to the airlines, there are of Perilus and Megasthenes the travel* two boards of directors, one for AIC lers have introduced India to the rest and the other for, IAC. in the private of the world, it for that reason apart organisations we see interlinking ot from the commercial potat of view and capitals; here there is interlinking of earning revenue the influx of tourist directors; as many as four directors from abroad will help understand the are both on Air India and on Indian problems and people of this; country. Airlines Board. I do not know' the 1 should urge upon ihe Minister to give benefit of this. But 1 have some ap­ serious thought to this point and sell prehension that this creates vested In­ oufc tourism to the outside world. terests. Apart from thi& as many as 3)7 D® 1976-77-—Min. of VAISAKHA 20,1898 (SAKA) Tourism & Civil 238 Aviation seven retired airmarshala, axe direc­ have been a base for the Indian Air. tors of those two boards, i.e. one* lines for the Eastern Region. I would third of the total strength of urge upon the Minister kindly to con­ members of the two boards* sider that Gauhati should be converted Jt seems that it is an extension of the into a base airport for the entire Defence Services and it creates vested eastern region. There are six airports interests. If any passenger wants to in Assam includes Dimapur, Imphal travel by the EATS coach from Palam and the proposed airport in Borapani. Airport to the city, he will just pur­ The operational H.Q, for these airports chase the ticket and board the coach. should be Gauhati, The plea of lack The conductor of the coach will tell of finance should not be there and if him that the coach will just leave the the Minister seriously considers the Airport towards the city but it is al­ development of air traffic in the region, ways happening that the passengers he should take immediate action. have to keep on waiting not for minutes but hours. This sort of thing The air travel, after the partition of is encouraged by the Directors. This India, is no more a luxury for the peo­ is what 1 presume. Therefore, I am ple of the Eastern region. It is compelled to say that it is the outcome absolutely essential. It is an absolute of the vested interests. The IAC necessity. I come from Lakhimpur coach has been replaced by the EATS where people used to travel by air coach. before they had seen the railway engine or travelling by train. There In Assam, there are six airports and was no railway line at that time. Gauhati is the major airport for the After lhat, considering the incon­ entire Eastern region. That airport is venience experienced by the people, known to everybody. Here what hap­ an airport was established there pens is that two Boeing aircraft land and people used to travel by air at an interval of 10 to 15 minutes and from North Lakhimpur to .Torhat they take off at an interval of 30 and Gauhati by air since 1945-46. minutes. During this period there is I am sorry to say that presently a big commotion in the checking coun­ Gauhati is the capital of Assam ter. These inconveniences to the pas­ and it is not connected by air service sengers could have been avoided had withi North Lakhimpur though there is there been any imagination in timing an airport at Lilubari. Now. the air the services, even without expanding service from Lilubari to Jorhat is there 1he airport for the time being. Great and then it connects Calcutta only as difficulties are faced by the passengers if Calcutta is the capital of Assam. in this airport. For instance, there are Similarly people from Dibrugarh can­ only two ‘public conveniences’ for the not come to Gauhati by air for all 4 he passengers who disembark from two days of the week. There are connect­ Boeings almost at a time and the ing services for four days a week only. space in the airport is quite This can be augmented without intro­ inadequate even for standing. So. ducing more services by more adjust­ if the timing of these two Boeing ment of the time of the air lines ser­ services is properly adjusted, these in­ vices. At present there is one service conveniences could have been avoided from Calcutta—Gauhati to Jorhat, i.e. and could be avoided. But that is not IAC 249 and IAC 250 from Jorhat to done. The services to the Eastern Gauhati Calcutta. If there is proper Region are controlled from Delhi or adjustment of timing of these services Calcutta. If something happens in and that of the Flights Nos. 211 and Calcutta, say, bad weather, the entire 212, passengers can alight at Jorhat services tot the Eastern Region are and catch a plane for Lilabhari or for cancelled and the passengers in Gau­ their return journey to Gauhati. It hati and their airports are stranded. only requires a re-arrangement of tim­ So, my point is that' Gauhati should ing and nothing more. 239 1976 -77—Min, o f MAY 10, 1076 Towritm ft Civil Aviation

fShri Biswanarayan Shagtri] ft? t % farc sfa wrt£ \ So far as Chabua airport Is concern­ s f r fr tg&s aft qv fa r tot vx ed, if any member of this House has ever visited that place, I need not say ?rtWr *rnf# I %fasr srcftsr «^«r w anything. The passengers there have tfc St # §?rr m. i to get down at the national highway W F T 5J1TT JFT m? ^ ^ syrr^ fjrtssfr standing there at the High way from f w | # f*R %M8kr | ^n?r wftf rain and sun. You know, Sir, it Is a mx |« tt 1 1 ’Tif^wm ei heavy rainfall area having about 200” of rain a year. People get drenched n i m m m?raR: and there is not even a shed thiere to WSffK f t WTIVRTV t 3TR# give protection to the people who get f fa f® «fi- ?prT vm down from the vehicles and are waiting to board the IAC coach to the airport | w t| i f«^T^T9rr^|qr^f?rfa»T terminal. 3\^T3i «rnr ^rirr | ^ ^ | fa I request the minister to consider h ?ft*T wr? ^rnr ^ i t r ^ i ^fa?r ^ r f these suggestions. With these words, I support the Demands. «R>iT 11 faT qm ?r$f *ft jrsft* . 3«rrcf?r m«T «nr wfim ?ft*r w wt ^ * ! *rf5rflff it ft #»r m # «fr ?»r aft * f s f ^ r r wrssRTT i i sntft sr^rsr ? sfoKsr % ’tft fjiTsnr ^ i f , fatT srftflrr i $ urt'T »rf*m ^ «ft i i «mr f fa vm Tf an^rar grfl^ "<| ^ i ? Tm s^rrar ^s-*nPThr «pt t^P | I f w r r w.T»n i ^ jtt^ tt I f a IrfVsr srtft era? *?rr efrflw *?> ^^rrsfcr srtfY «ft i srnrit Tt 1 1 m cPP «frq r< # ^rr frfiw % m fa f f m ^ t * ^faarr i %f%?T ffPcFCT % *rnt grr^T ^ ^ »ft 1 1 w%?r ft wfr *rmT | 3ft ^ 3fr ^ ^rfaa | %fa?r m & m * ft* % vnn *rr% ^ ftwsr ftft 11 «rr an>rr f i t fa mq favnr ?rt % Tn-fr ift wwr ft f ftrfc t ?rrfa « t ^ft^faar f t f*rfa£t % $ *ft qf* wfr 11 nfim foPwer »rf¥ w*rr D G W 6~ T~ J m n . of VAI8AKHA 20,1898 {SAKA) Tourism & Citrtl 24* ' AtHotion fWPfwx ft 0p*w wt fa®# armf*T | t ^ ? r r tfa ff *ft «Pfr «rr ft? Ir wvt wrwi f^r^rnr w%■*? «rrc ^ *#ft f »rf 1 1 tfiw «st srror ^ ^ sftr ft*i*r tc # ^rmrt qwr sprnrr 1 f f *rnr m x f 1 ^1 *rr %m ^qrcfft =?rf?^

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if*r w * «wt j fsrwrc' ^ ijft ft | Wffcr r^ f « ^ «r*t »R faq i t : %*%$t *ri *K fa it fa «r> “The Committee feel that no tffaiT * ft va ftrafr w serious efforts have been made for t o w * «rff ^ 1 **Tf*rcr PTT? £ *rff srrf?q 1 **r % i wr?^ wmff tn: m *. % sn^ if qft ?TTt(J% fff? *T? $ * ff Tjprr ?ft srrcr sr^ t ^rnfoft i jM fer s*r if ?>tt «rrf^ t fitfira* TrsrwyPT % gt f i *r?r t *r? ^(r^r # ift STT?fV ^*tftsr*T “Mi. Abu and Ranakpur are noted t ^ t : for their exquisite Jain temples built of marble in 11th, 13th and 15th “The Committee note the shifting centuries. In the previous Plan of emphasis from the 5 star to 3 star periods the Department of Tourism hotels in the proposed Fifth Plan. contributed 50 per cent of the cost They still feel that much remains to for the construction of a Tourist be done for providing accommoda­ Bungalow at Mt Abu, and also met tion at cheaper rates to cater to the the expenditure on bringing electrL. needs of tourists with moderate city to Ranakpur.” means." tr^r mwcer srre>ft frtrift wr>f if? srmrr sranw | \ «n* <#H srnraift *iff £ fa s Sr fatflr ^ ^ T R f f^TT JJ# ^ STR frtesr 3 a im frfr^r t \ flwF?r wi^t isnrr t 1 tit ft ^nrar «rnn srV, srmt ^ t, Ff? 9Tf?r strs^t- wsr^ffapf t fmir^ ment Departments and Embassies. I fa tft tfiriFrnr $ | 1 si wrflf m «rsnr % \ for 5*rrt *f?fV ^r% fafte ffrtrr 1 1976 $f snt^rtreftavr art ^ 253 251 DG 1976-77-Min. of MAY 10, 1976 Tourism & Civil Aviation 2SZ touriE (~>-:.fr ~~ 'if'G" ~FIT] and middle class people from Western of de countries? You know the clerks there to at f:p ~t q-r qm ~TFfT .-rg;:r \if~T who have their savings and want to our c come to India. India has a charm of ~ , >rr$2 w~ >.:rr-r -rFr;p~-r ifi f<1o; its own. That attracts people to India. Ev1 mcr;:r tnl1Tlf ~tr "f.T 'TPT ::3oT England and all that. Let us encour- do ~I age our African brothers, our Asian ce: brothers, the people from Japan, Thai- pu land and Indonesia. We h!ave to de- di velop, even from political angle, greater be SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola) : relationship with these developing fli Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support countries. Therefore, you invite them in the Demands relating to the Minis~ry "to come and stay with the people here. it of Tourism and Civil Aviation. While You advertise and ask, "Who are the tl doing so, I would like to make a few persons who are willing to have ·guests eJ points. from outside to stay with them?'' . I K am sure, at least 50 lakh middle-class p· Firstly, if you want to develop families in this country will make an a tourism in a big way, why can't you offer to keep these people as their g think in terms of attracting smaller guests. That is t he way to develop a<3 XX? mfi-77—aiin. of VAISAKHA 20,1888 (SAKAI Tourism* C M Aviotion tourism. We must tWnk -of new ways big places have hardly a place or two of developing tourism in our country, to see. Therefore, kindly do this. to attract more and more tourists to our country. To come to my last point, Mr. Raj Even if you want to encourage Bahadur, I want to ask you the econo­ tourism the other way, have anal! mics of taking a whole plane to huts. In these places of attraction, Nagpur and bringing it back half Kbajuraho and other places that you empty. As I had been pleading with you, why can’t you touch Nagpur have, have small huts where they can through one of the planes going South come and stay. Let them have a to Hyderabad, Bangalore or Madras. glimpse of your cultural life. Arrange Nagpur, today, is not connected with folk dances for them. I have seen the South5 at all by any service. None many tourists who come here and visit of the pianeB by which Central India these places of Interest and who want is served is connected with the South to know about our cultural life. I had they have to go via Calcutta or been to Udaipur. They are taken to Bombay. This means half an hour ’those typical places, like, Lake Palace, more9 I have gone by those planes. this and that. They ask: What is the So, I plead with the Minister to kindly cultural life of India? There is no touch Nagpur through some plane place where they can see that. There­ going South. I don’t understand your fore, you make these arrangements. present economics of taking a whole These are small things buf it is these plane there and bringing it back. things that attract the people. There must be an imaginative way of doing if. *TOr qrti ( ) India is a big sub-continent. You want to connect only big cities. For aw'Tftr sft, sftr ?tptt fgnm 24 days’ stay, a person must go quickly from one place to another. You have grounded +he A^ It has been certi­ 'p fo r ftw nr % *reft «ft tpst 3ft fied that there u> nothing wrong with m r *sfV *jrr rite *mft it. . $ srcnf ^rr =9rT^rr g % f % cfcTCfil WT *TPT fPTT^ TTSf^rT fT ^T*T MR CHAIRMAN: They have not been grounded. 'TJTJfT 3PFT if f w r f jfcrrf i SHRI VASANT SATHE: They had. S£*TTTT « l i m 3 W T t crt *IT5ft Now, +hey have certified that they are perfectly all right. Our factory in s t ?ft scn^r f , srf*: ^ orrfr £ sftr Kanpur is being underutilised Why 3R *r ar^rsr | don’t we have more Avros? 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Wf fff if IF# W ftMH tourist country. Ii we take hotel rooms, *s Shri Sathe has taken words w *» out of my mouth, Imagination would make a hotel rooms far more different i* atmt m * $ fiw wr^ than what it Is now, almost a curse to the international tourist. He has the mnvrff :y, steel and the need for laying greles that I develop tourism. My b on. colleague, have just now placed tefore yotl we Shri Surendra Pal Singh, has very ful- h ave to achieve a growth rate of ly, and, I think, meticulously and 1 :'; per cent per annum in our neatly stated the case, what our efrurts tourist Traffic and we are striving so far have been and \Vha: we plan to for that. and we hope that we may do in the coming years. He has c.Jso be able lo achieve it. But as it all given a convincing sequr:rll.e of facts depends upon so many circumstances and figures by which he has establish- beyond 0ur control, we may not achieve ed, how India is not Jagging behind in this higb rate of growth. This is one tourism, and that we h ave some sort of reason why, I would very respectfully a policy, and are worki.1g accordiug to submit, that it may not be practical for certain broad guidelines that generally us, and 1t any rate it is not so t!'rgent and broadly reflect the wishes, the for us to come up with a formal resolu- views and the opinions that were tion on policy on tourism. A furmal voiced in the House to-d 3y from resoluUon on policy in the matter of di'fferent sections of the House. I am industrial policy, or family planning or greateful for those views. I would in some other spheres can be conceiv- submit just to remove any impression ed of, but so rar as tourism is concern- to the contrary, that though ·.ve h ave ed it is ~ubject to a variety of factors J~cl adopted a formal rnlic:v resolu- and circumstances and 1o the exigen- tion on tourism a poi:cy has grown cies ot the situation at a gi\'en time. and evolved over the years. Further So, in our case. we depe:1d upon certain it has no! been just b:v fits and co nditions and factors such as peace starts that we have been functioning a nd conge:r.ial economic C'Onditions. in thil Ministry. We have gr;t certain Essentially the tourists who come are DG 1976-77-Min. of VAISAKHA 20, 1898 (SAKA) Tourism & Civil 462 Aviation e ambassadors of peace and goodwill. t that that is exactly what our efforts are Tourism is an industry that pro- the world. We were, fortunately, motes international understanding. aimed at, I said that we want to and therefore it thrives only in have a 15 per cent growth and we peace and harmony in world. So have also set a target that by 1978"79 far as we are concerned we pro- we should achieve a target of earning mote tourism not merely to earn at least Rs. 200. crores through tourism. foreign exchange, although that is an important consideration l.Jut much more t'1nn that we promote it for Then, at the same time !here is yet fostering amity and goodwill at the another positive aspect of tourism that international 1evel arid national inte- we should take note of. To-day our gration at home. When we think of tourism employs about a million pecple domestir tourism, we want intermingl- in different trades. A million people ing of our people from the south with means 5 million mouths are being sup- the north and of the people of the ported by this industry and more can west with the east and vice-11ersa. In be supported directly and indirectly. short, we want contacts between the But there is a negafive aspect also people of one part with those of the which has to be taken care of while other part of the country, what is the talking <1bout policy-making, and thGt desire h.,. our heart? The desire is is th·at we sn-t-uld not be swept off ou.r that people living in Leh or Srinagar or feet by the impact of foreign tourists. Baramule or Kargill should be able to We must remain true ~o our culture intermingle with people in Trivandrum and cult lral heritage; true io our civi- and Kar ya Kumari and vice versa. lisation. We should present our StJ, this is something which we want cultural and way of life to foreign to achieve. tourists.

We also have laid dOVI'n certain targets for ourselves to earn foreign So fat as tourist attractions to our exchange, because we do want that country are concerned, we have five tourism should be of some substantial attractions; these are 0 m· mountains- help to our economy. We cannot the snow-cap~d peaks; our beaches,- merely be idealists. We have to earn the palm-fringed coastline; our wild some valuable foreign exchange. life-flora and fauna; our cultural Therefor~. sometimes we feel, as the heritage;-our monuments and tem- NCAER !National Council of Applied p~es; and above all our life style which Economic! Research) bas ~aid in the is quite different from the life style of course of a study ihat i: h r;s conducted the people in ~ the West. Tiiis is what recently, that only 5 per cent of the we have got to · preserve. When foreign exchange that tourism earns we have~ fo preserve that, it is being given to us for promotion of 'is quite apparent that we can- tourism. .At the same time we do rea- not allow ourselves as I said earlier, to lise ·'that wnatever we earn cannot all be swept off our feet. vVe have to be allocated to us. It has to fit into avert the unhealthy or unwelcome the entire broad frame-wo~k of our social effects and repercussions of economy, ... tourism. How do we do it? Our advantage is that we have got a tre- SHRI V ASANT SATHE : If you mendous population, that cannot be spend 20 per cent more you will earn easily sV\-ayed. Despite the foreign 40 per cent more. Then probably the domination of a century and mere, we government will agree and give you held our ground. The country has more. preserved and kept its cultural tradi- tions. While we are not tradition SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: I will at- bound, we -c1rerish and value certa'in once yield to my friend but let me say traits and features in our heritage a·nd >4 *3 DO im~rt-rM*. UkYl% H it *6 4

[Shri Raj Bahadur) that Is what e*actiy happened «U ew i the world. We wave, fortunately traditions that >k good and noble lor saved because of the help and *uppOrt us, that are Immortal for us. Similarly given by this House to «wr policies and we also know that our cultural herit­ programmes. We pursued and with age is such is cannot be easily swayed vigour we got results. I would further or swept US. Therefore, we do take say that this was largely alio due to due* cafe to see that through our the growth in productivity In the hotels, through our tourists institutions economic field. In the lagt one year what people from foreign lands get our productivity has gone up in various should be the Indian aspect of life, the sectors of oar economy, so has disci­ Indian style and.character. pline and punctuality in our services. All this has been due to the etep s Sbri Jadeja, I see your point. We taken by our Government under leader­ have got to reconcile the two opposing ship of our Prime Minister. And this demands or requirements—on the cne is what has enabled us to achieve our hand we have to provide modern targets. amenities as have been made available by fhe development of modem techno­ Just for a moment, kindly think in logy, ancf on the ofher hand we have contrast of the situation that prevailed also to see that the decor, the cuisine, in Calcutta particularly and in the the form and style of entertainment is whole of Ihe Calcutta region generally Indian as far as possible and practical. before 1972. The plight of industries That is exactly what we want to do. resulting from disturbed law and order That is a part of our policy. Besides, conditions that led to some of the fore­ we do not want to slavishly imitate and ign airlines to give up their stops at import some Western styles or Western Calcutta. It has been a tremendous modes, of entertainment. task for us to retrieve the situation, after 1972. You will be happy to know that traffic to Calcutta has picked SHRI VASANT SATHE; They do up now. That is in contrast, when law not want anything Western except and order broke down, when economy toilet. went in doldrums and when peace was SHRI RAJ BAHADUR- They want not there, you cannot expect that a neat and clean bed also which does traffic will grow or tourism would pro­ not creak or crack. sper. SHRI VASANT SATHE. Incidental­ We want to ensure and stimulate ly. what about encord? economic development through our tourism effort and let it be recognised SHRI RAJ BAHADUR I will come that as a result of this policy that we to that. Since you have raised that have pursued, it has been proved that point, I will touch that. we have achieved considerable success and that too m very difficult conditions. But to promote tourism we have re­ The last two or three years have been cently taken another step. You must extraordinarily difficult for tourism have heard of the South Asia tourism and aviation—the oil crisis, the high year—the year 1975. Recently, there prices, the hike in oil prices resulting was a meeting of the South Asia Regio­ In inflation, then recession on over head nal Travel Commission, which all our find the cosfs of all that tourists need neighbouring countries were repre­ going up. AU these contributed to sented. pressures which could have easily scotched all our efforts. Whenever This was presided over or chaired by economic pressures build up and infla­ our Additional Director-General, Touri­ tion occuis, tfiey claim tourism and sm, who (Kokraibar) represented our tourist traffic as their first victim and country at the conference. OG W W -TT-M *. o f VAffiAKHA» , i m iSAKA) T o w im * Cittil a * t A A viation $ S m D. BASUMATARI

(Shri Raj $ahaduri BnWe. ttj, rjurt Ml yi* TW* is Quit cowed This is a wrong how much dbes IttSian Anflufltal® impression, (Interruptions). contribute to the natiOiikl feftfeh It contributed to the time of Rs IS 5S U I may now come to the Indian crores on account e of their services and, as many have also accepted the compromise and as 16 stations had to be given up the settlement Why should these two They did not want to become a bur­ remam stand out’ Is it because their den on the general tax-payer And noses axe bigger than the noses of naturally, it had to be done I am the management? It should not become happy to say, however, that Maha­ % question of prestige or Izzat I would rashtra Government, has responded only appeal to them to give us the sup­ magnificently to our request and port and to fall m line with others, persuation and they realised our we are n t shutting them out it is they difficulty and although they want who are shutting themselves out The more of services, they "have done responsibility for the lock-out which their bit, to make If possible for the continues technically falls four square Indian Airlines to run economicallv on the shoulders of these two gentle­ and to make it run on sound com­ men of the ACEU who have not seen mercial principles There was a hike reason and whom we have not been in oil price with resultant addition able to persuade and convince of our to the salestax They have respond­ bonafides This is what I would like ed to our request and have pegged lo say about it their revenue from sales tax on aviation fuel at the level that obtain­ As regards Air-India I was going to ed before the price hike m oil say that there was some relief provi­ (Interruptions) ded to the Air-India by us about sales- tax So far Indian Airlines is con­ •ft • tfsft eft, cerned they asked for a relief m cil # ifa ar»r$ ^ *rw ^ t o t Srfatr prices as they were, after the hike an­ w* f^jn: $ «rt apfftr ticipating a loss of Rs 16 S crores m the vear 1974-75 but they were given no f «nrr & wr relief However because of certain i w f c f 13 crores was added to DG 1976-77-Min. of VAISAKHA 2U, 1898 (SAKA) Tourism & Civil 270 Aviation SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- DER: Sir, I want to know about Panagarh airport which is situated "'' 'n'f ~t!llf ~tti near Durgapur and Burnpore, whether ro~~? Panagarh will be inc ~ud e d in the civil air service? ~Ti!f ~~({_,~ : ~'fi" ~ ~~ "lT SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: Sir, at Cal- ~ >.:!"T~

SHRI JA'GANNATH MISHRA: I Sir, we are today engaged in a would like to know the Government's study for the acquisition of short haul policy on the Concord? (Interrnptions) jets and we hope a decision will be soon taken in that connection. SHRI 1RAJ BAHADUR : I was just saying t.his. At this point however, I would like to say a few words about on-time per- Sir. I was just submitting what has formance by LA. Services. In the been exactly ach ieved by the Indian year 1973 the punctuality of the In- Ail lines since t.he Lock-out. I am dian Airlines Services was of the ha;Jpy to say that the Indian Airlines order of 45.16 per cent. In 1974- have started a biweekly service to after the lock-out--it rose to 67.68 Male. We added two additional 737 per cent and in 1975 it rose to 68.07 boeings in September. 1975. I hope per cent and in the three months of with t3e procurement and . arrival of 1976 it is 69.57 per cent. Remember. the three Air Buses that have been that we have to take into account the ordered around November this year, fact that m any of these delays are on we shall be able to operate the Air account of reas·ons beyond our control. Bus aircraft on quite a few trunk We have worked on t3at. The delays ro"Jtes. The air Buses will be deliver- on account of engineering snags, com- ed by the end of November and we mercial or transport reasons consti- hope would start operating from 1st tute a small percentage but it does February, 1976. There are five routes, not mean that we want to condone namely. Bombay-Delhi, Bombay-Mad- even these delays. However, while we ras, Bombay-Calcutta, Delhi-Calcutta are trying to cut down these delays we and Bombay-Bangalore on which they cannot take risks with safety of these will run. flights. As far as safety is con cerned, I would like rather like a service not to operate at all rather Meanwhile, I may also say t3at we than operate at a risk. Safety first is do recognise that we should improve our target.. We will not compromise the quality of our air services further. on this. If there is bad weather, had Sir as far as A vros are concerned beyond prescribed mmtmum or if they were not grounded on our voli- there is even a slight engineering fault, tion. They are very good aircrafts. we would rather not fly than take risks It was mandatory obligation imposed with safety of our flights. upon us by Hawker Sidley. the manu- facturers through the HAL, Kanpur Sir, I would like to impress upon who directed certain checks to be done the hon'ble Members not to compare and ' we carried them out meticulously the air services with other modes of and .scrupulously. -· transport. Surface transport is much *74 JO T tm -71-M i*. of M AY *97* T*ur1»m * Civii Aviatie* ^

[Shri Raj Bahadur] SHRI HAJ BAHADUR. It wiU spore amenable to rule* at Mlcty of to vWe. for a peak load traffic of 1480 discipline. Out oI 6,72? delays, only patttenger* 1 360 were primary delays, due to fac­ The mam runway at Calcutta, as I tors within our control, and they said earlier has been strenthened for amount to 4 5 per cent of the total the Bdteing 747 We Have Appointed number of flights. 'The remaining Regional Scheduling Committees at 27 5 per cent o f the flight that were the four aircports anTd a National Sche­ delayed, were for reasons beyond our duling Committee for avoiding bunch­ control ing of the scheduled flights which is really a curse. Countries in the west, I would only like to say that so far and m the east, that i» Japan oq one as the workers’ amenties are concern ed, I have taken note of the various side and the European countries on the cut motions Shn Jagannath Mishra, other, do not allow any service after 9 or 10 in the night But all services Shri Unniknshnan on this side and converge on our country at oi after some other friends on tne other side midnight at Delhi or Bombay, round reminded me about these motions All about the same time So we are con­ that I can say is that we shall take sidering ways and means of how best note of all those cut motions which to remove or overcome the bunching relate to our staff m IA, Air India, the of aircraft how to avoid it We Airport Authoity and DGC A We want these services but we do not shall examine these, and investigate want noise pollution particularly at and do whatever is just, reasonable night t'lat disturbs the peace of our and desirable That is exactly what I people living around at night We do would like to assure hon members not want to be rated as second tlasss about citizens of the world W? a*so want our comforts So we have appointed So far as the standards of safetv m a National Committee for that ctvil aviation are ronce-ned we are t-'king all possible steps to overcome So far as the cargo position is con­ these engineering defects and other cerned, I would say that it has been defects assessed that at Delhi the demand is In regard to the Airport Authority 1900 tonnes for garments etc , plus also, I may say that a new passener 600 tonnes on items other than gar­ car§o terminal complex at Bombay ments every month This was in May has been approved This will cost From June 1976 to October 1976, the Bs 11 crores Rs 716 crores for the demand will be as much as 900 tonnes passenger complex and Rs 3 8 crores for garments and 600 tonnes for for a permanent cargo terminal others From November 1976 to March 1977 this will rise to 1100 SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- tonnes to 1600 tonnes As a result of NAN Are you making adequate pro various meetings that the DGOA has vision for the increasing traffic from taken or the Chairman, Airport the Gu’f Area’ Authority has taken a capac tv of 1900 tonnes has been provided for by SHRI RAJ BAHADUR Yes That all the airlines including Air India in I have already said Instead of 7 May and onwards This would take flights now there are 11 We shall care of the demand tifl October—this certainty bear that in mind particular capacity In Madras and Bombay also we are having similar SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- meetings and making similar exerci NAN Because you mentioned the ses Ih Calcutta, we have already flights I am a&ing Whether in the provided for a multi-purpose cargo Bombay airport you have taken this teffitiftal and there we also hope that into your calculations the storage capacity that has been 493 DG*f8Mr7~4f*k

mountains, rivers valleys, weather. P..lT ~~ a:QT~~ : 1!,Gflfi,lfi~~ it orT~?f scenic beauty. etc. I should like to ~Tq ~ ~ ~ f (1"lST ~ f'F erQ:t OfTh::!IT ?f know from the hO'.1. Minister whether lfi, '1:5 'FT CfGf~ ?r t'1 ;q'h ff:sq; <:mITlfTCf he has some '}~ans for the develop. merit of the hill areas. oi~ ~TGfTCff ~ I Cf) it 4'f:5 lMM \SAtU) TwrtamkCivii *7* Aviation a£&ft$0e' 'efttirpH** 4 in \t3to fleid. the mark. 1 would read out the rele­ of avmtlan and *w m -prepared vant figures from the report. The total to 'gay the fcrflce 1to m M experience numoer of recruitments made in class in* eomxtton with titlters but on reason- I to class IV during 1974-75, was 382. Able term*. Burt If they nwrnt to fly The number of vacancies reserved for su&sohic on EUrop* thd supersonic £fc was 71 and for ST it was 27. over our country, that would not be Against these the number of SC & ST reasonable and cannot be allowed. candidates appointed was 74 against We are not prepared to be treated as 71 for SC and 9 against 27 for S.T. second class citizens of the world. Scheduled Tribes candidates are not That is ont of the main reasons why available and that was why only 9* we have not allowed them. Even could be appointed. otherwise we should be convinced that supersonic flights would not be Now, about Calicut I have already injurious to our people jn any way. said. Then somebody asked me about It is so because we have also seen the total income in foreign exchange, that when we allowed one such flight earned as a result of the introduction there was a lot of protest from the of ‘’Discovery of India Fare”. Up to people on the route of the flight. Slat March 1975, this Fare has brought Therefore Government's decision not in Us $ 482,772, that is in terms of to allow supersonic Concorde fiignts rupees, It is Rs. 37.6 lakhs. There is- little doubt that it has given a termen- over India is based on certain im­ dous fillip to tourist traffic. That is- portant factors. In any case, there why we have been able to catch up, is absolutely no intention of squeezing despite the adverse effect of inflation out any commercial civil aviation and rising costs elsewhere. benefits from the Government of UK. on this -account. It is un­ SHRI R. S. PANDEY: Jn so far as fortunate that such ' a motive is foreign exchange revenue is concerned, attributed to us. It is very unfair do the Government contem­ that a friendly country should have plate to give the benefit to the Civil been accused of such intention or Aviation Department? motive when we have no such inten­ SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: Whatever tion at all. foreign exchange is earned by the Now. about student concession, an hotels, at least 10 per cent of that hon. Member said that it was only is allowed to them to meet the cost of for going to the home towns that 50 purchasing equipment which may in­ per cent discount is given. As far as volve imports, and so payments in my knowledge goes, 50 per cent dis­ foreign exchange. So far as Calcutta count is given for sight-seeing jour­ is concerned at present, the British- neys also. Airways, Scandinavian Airline System Now, for the recruitment of Air Royal Nepal Airline Corporation, Hostess, special consideration is given Bangladesh Biman, Burma Airways to the candidates coming from the Corporation and Thai International— Eastern region. The complaint was these are'six airlines that touch Cal­ that they were not allowed to become cutta airport. Besides that, we have Air Hostess. Interviews were held at also the Aeroflot service which we hope Gauhati. Special reservation for Air will operate one service per week via Hostesses belonging: to Scheduled Calcutta. It is understood that this Castes and Scheduled Tribes is also service will start very soon. made. In* this connection, I would It was said that we are not checking like to refer to the -tabtflar lrtatemtent the influx of unauthorised persons in­ on wage 39 of ' the Report. It has to the airports. That is not correct. been statedly‘ an hoii.'MWnber that We have got the local airport security appc^taMOta to GUtfrirXn-'tfMd crass IV committee which is looking after that post* t for which i«*er«tion‘ h

[Shri Raj Bahadur) tar as returns on investments are con­ cerned. | have figure* for two years. and reservations should be improved. In 197,3*74, the. percentage of seles to We hope very soon we will have « capital employed was 68.32 for ITDC jReaL-time computer for taking care oI hotels and 89.36 for the private sector. ■the reservations both. The percentage of gross profits to capi­ A question was asked whether chee tal employed wa* 8.73 for private sec per meals will be made available at tor and 12 for ITDC hotels. In 1974-75, •the ITDC hotels. We took that step the percentage of sales to capital em­ some time back and the rates lor vege­ ployed was 49.65 for the private sector tarian thali meals were scaled down. and 82.64 for ITDC hotels. The percen­ "These are Rs. 9.50 in Ranjit, Rs. 18.50 tage of gross profits to capital employ* in Janpath, Rs. 18 in Ashoka and Rs ed was 12.68 for private sector and 15 at Kutab. We know that even now 15.50 for ITDC hotels. it does not come within the reach of For improving tourist facilities in the common men, but we have to the south, we have taken some steps. 'have caletarias lor that. I think both We are going to take one important the private sector and public sector step for promotion of tourism in the 'have got to take care of that. In this south. In case where there is a pre­ .connection, a point was made by Mrs. determined itinerary the proposal is Parvathi Krishnan as to why we are to allow some concessions for 7 days •giving loans to hotels in private sector. on that itinerary. 30 per cent discount May I tell her that we have got hard­ is already being given for the itinerary ly 200o rooms in the public sector Madras-Bangalore* Trivandrum and whereas the total rooms required in back, I hope similar itineraries will be the country number 15,000. So, we have evolved to avail of these concessions got to see that whatever capital resour­ elsewhere also. ces can be mobilised for that purpose both in the private and public sectors SHRI K. P UNNIKRISHNAN should be so mobilised. For that we (Badagara): What about connect­ 4iave to give certain incentives. We ing Viiavawada by air? Rive them loans on certain terms and conditions The loans are secured If SHRI RAJ BAHADUR- We have they do not fulfil those conditions, we taken a decision that Vijawada should can take action. be connected as soon as possible We SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN- will get an additional Avro very soon When you (five them loans, why don't and we will do that. you see that the prices charged by PROF NARAIN CHAND PARASH- 'them are kept low, «?o that they are AR (Hamirpur): What about S>mla? comparable to the ITDC hotel char­ That is the only State capital not con­ ges? nected by air. SHRI RAJ BAHADUR That ques- SHRI RAJ BAHADUR- Your State ‘tion requires further examination has got an airport at Kulu. I think, it It was said that in the eastern re­ is not correct to say that we have no gion, there is no transport unit set up policy for airports. We have a policy "by the ITDC. This is again incorrect. for airports. We have transport units at Calcutta and Bhubaneswar. When the hotels at About Are tenders, I would say that 'Siliguri and Gauhati come up, such the party that had tendered the lowest -units can be set up there too. acceptable terms has backed out and they wanted a high price on the plea We have made a comparative analy­ of escalation of costs. We did not allow sis to how the public sector hotels that and we have gone to invite global 4n ITDC and the private hotels fare so tenders. Meanwhile, we have made improvised arrangement* I Can as­ i t l BO M*». «f VA1SAKHA W, ttt* (SAK jI) Towtwn k Civil *8* Aviation sure the Member* that there will be no of the high altitude, atmosphere pre­ dearth, & the safety measures. ssure and other reasons. Therefore, we will require a plane that can go and SHBI VASANT BATHS: You do not land or take off at that height. A short want tourists to go to Nagpur, your haul jet will serve that purpose. It aasural. will serve the purpose of port Blair and many more areas also. SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: When the airbus comes, I will take care of Nag- SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Lac­ mix. cadives also. I will certainly accept the point of Mr. Sanghi has made that accommoda­ SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: No. There tion chart should be available at the you require a much smaller aircraft. airports and something should be done About accommodation, we will cer- about it. tainly take care to do whatever best' can be done in conjunction with the* So far as Andaman & Nicobar is efforts made by the State Govern, concerned, we are very much for deve­ ments. loping tourism there. In other areas too in the North, we have succeeded, to some extent, in allowing tourists to qmta v n g w : spsr % fttfV r go to places which were so far restric­ ted. Now the demand is that the inner line should be pushed further. That ttw $?m ut*b fall within the sphere of their respon­ sibility. Should we then take over, a U»rniM' % *r* S 8rfT, #t ^ srr^ if sort of blanket responsibility even for f *P£»TT f*F ^ % «f5T ft % f ^ r ?n$ % t i our common man or even of our middle classes. The main question is: f w 3TW, JTf | F«f snf shall we have the type of hotels and ^*T$ «Tfr T^T ^f ^ I I ETlfsTRTnff % facilities which are within the reach of ;• ST* Jr $ ^TT the common man? This has to be pro­ vided pith*»r bv thp State Government, ^rr^ciT $ - or bv us. We are ill-equipped for this. Domestic tourism is also an arti­ I would say this- when you go abroad, cle of faith with us. We would like to you have to pay through your nose “promote it; but the question is, what for your hotels and restaurants When should be the division of areas of res­ the foreigners come here, are we to ponsibility. We have got to see that have one rate for the use of the hotel while we concentrate on such tourist by the foreigner, and another rate for places which attract a large number of use by Indians? That would be frowned foreign torists or have the poten­ upon by manv About off-season, we tial to attract foreign tourists, shall certainly examine the position. 'domestic tourists are better ’ooked after by the State Government; and SHRI PARVATHI KRISHNAN: I there, we want to collaborate with am talking about off-season conces­ -them and cooperate with them to the sions. extent possible. We assist them in many ways; and we will not shirk our SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : We will ex­ responsibility at all, even in regard to amine it. Even regard to the cost of those places—if they become popular meals etc. (Interruptions), there is with international tourists. (Interrup­ need tor examination. Sir, sha’l I tions). reply to all the questions? Let me get the air-bus, let the capacity of the SHRIMATI PARVATHI KEISHNAN; Boeings be released. Let me then see "Why don’t you give concessions where whether we can connect Bhubanesh­ you have your own ITDC tourist com­ war. (Interruptions) plexes, in a season which is not the rush season? You can do that, without SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL- the State Governments coming into it. DER (Auscram): On 4th May, one "Don't put everything on the States. It extra passenger was carried by fight -wlH delay Matters. No. 401 from Delhi to Calcutta; and j**3 W v s is/Uacs.**, { & i . I SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH­ do not want take the time of the House NAN: The Minister was not here when by repeating them. Can I take it that I was speaking. He made a reference I will get the answers in the next con­ in his speech—and I am very happy to sultative Committee? hear it that he would consider the vari­ ous demands of and issues affecting the SHRI D. D. Desai (Kaira): Even workers and employees, raised in the though you had provided funds lor Cut Motions. I would request that he good aerodrome for Ahmedabad, every­ should not confine his replies oiVy to one connected with Ahmedabad knows the Cut Motions, because some of that it is a most primitive one. Even these issues have also been made in States capitals of a smaller size in the speeches that have been made here. India do not have such a small air­ I would request him to examine all the port. Though Government had promi­ problems raised in the speeches. sed in the previous years that it will reconstruct that airport, nothing has SHRI RAJ BHADUR: I will examine been done so far except some make­ all these questions. I will certainly shift arrangements. I want the hon. make a note of these points. The time Minister to tell me when he will make is not propitious at the moment. It is Ahmedabad airport on par, if not with now 4.20. the international airports, at least with •ome of the other major sized airports.

w i w m v m i snrrofer PROP. NARAIN CHAND PARA- v r r «[fr *ft *nrcrc ^ SHAR: I would request the hon. Minister not to deal with the question of an airport at Simla as a * w&& m tsm wqwft M % jest, because the State Government f a w ESRT^KIt *ftt STTVpRT *>t

{Prof. Narain Chand Parashar] MR. CHAIRMAN: Rs. 75 lakh* have been committed. Mandi road for the costruction of the aerodrome. Since Himachal Pra­ desh happens to be the only State where the capital is not connected iftft *FT ElTPT W *fhRT ^flpTT by air, we faee a lot of difficulties. So far as Kulu is concerned, I may say for the information of the hon. f»T f*H T IWT t , Minister that it is 220 km away from w * % t r m i % w t f* Simla. Therefore, it will not serve that purpose. i*r*TT Hff ?fr w a i frsrcr ^ $t i fare aw spt *rt»T SHRI PARIPOORNANAND PAI- fa «njt arnrtftimr NULI: The hon. Minister, Shri Raj f% *5 w »i$f | f% Bahadur, expressed his veiba] love for the hills. But j was sorry to see ^ r f ar^t ir> i tftsw «rrt that he has not done anything tan­ snft ^rf?tr tfrz v t gible for the development of tour­ % 3 s m xsjtk f a ism as an industry in the^illy areas all over the country. I wou)d like to tk stht i srrt 3 wrft know whether the hon. Minister has any concrete plan, any separate plan, for the development of tourism as SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJ EJ£: an industry jn the hilly areas, be­ (Bardwan): May I know from the cause it is a labour-oriented scheme, hon. Minister whether there is any which can absorb the educated Un­ proposal on the part of Indian Air­ employed who are now going from lines for improvement of meals, the the hills to the plains in search of employment. Secondly, is he going so-called food that is given, because it is having very serious gastrono- to put Dehra Dun and Mussorie on mical effects’ Aie you going to wait the tourist 'map? for the an bus for that also, because every answer is now put on the air SHRI K. P UNNIKRISHNAN: rbus? Charming as he is, the hon. Minister has tried to soothe our countrymen «jt TWflWIT CTTFsft (q^lT) • $ by saying that he is trying to look into the question of Calicut airport. trsp 'J^TT f I *RT faraSr 5T7S? «IT% ^F5Rft ^ MR CHAIRMAN: He is commit­ fasrT$3ftittft%3ft?rsrSr3rf ?rfsRFTfy ted to it I have also pleaded for it. f 'arc % f r o srfa: p w n r SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN- He % ^ 3TT ?TT ^ is committed to it, because the whole | tftr «wt st?i tft | fa tft mi House was informed 25 years ago in the Provisional Parliament, that it ?t % *TTWf ^ tft I I will be taken up. Nobody can run x m srrcr I ?ft w swsr 3 fftv rc away from that commitment. All hjs predecessors have said so. This % Jp^T m f5WT 7 is a matter which I was raising, in §*rr nr ^ writer at m % ** 9VSM Jorum, including the Commit­ f i r ^ T R wt 3R?rr ipt 5fr vt*r»t p n tee on Assurances. So, I want to know what concrete steps fce proposes to ^rf^r, -m ^rnr ^ wifr aptf-

About Ahmedabad, I would say About Cochin, Rs. 70.5 lakhs have that we have already spent a lot cf been sanctioned for the extension money on modification and expan­ and strengthening of the runway for sion. Even then, we are very serious­ Boeing 737. ly considering the question of put­ ting up a new terminal complex and Then comes Purnea. We will get also a new technical block at Ahme- the new proposal, that you have dabad. made examined. If we really run a service profitable with it, we shall We are doing likewise in respect certainly see whether the proposal is of other ports, about Patna, etc. So otherwise feasible. far as connection for Sitamarhi is concerned, it depends upon the fleet position. About Simla, we have se­ About meals, I am absolutely sure lected Jabbarhati, a place where we on seeing the beautiful and robust health of my friend, Mr. Somnath could build an airport good enough for the Avro. Now, this is a propo­ Chatterjee, that he has had no gastro- sal-pending consideration of sis­ nomical disorder at all, on account of ter Ministries. Mr* Painuli is speak­ the food served to him. (Interrup­ ing about the development of the tions) The Indian Airlines has done hills. I said, from Srinagar to Jam­ a good job. Apart from that a com­ mu, Manali and DHaramshala, Dal- mittee of both the Houses has been housie, Kulu, Manali, Simla, Dehta set up to go into the whole question* Dun, Mussoorie, Nainital and Dar­ jeeling, some way or the other, we SHRI VASANT SATHE: It is only have tried to help them and we have because of the good air hostesses also tried to develop facilities for that we will feel like eating. They them. We have also publicised all of only make it tolerable. 766 L.S.—10 391 DC 1976-77—Min. o f MAY $ 1979 Tournm U CH>it Aetettoti apt

Tourism ft Cttril Aviation “That the respective sums not «fltceeding the amounts on Revenue SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: I mo your Account and Capital Account preference. shown in the fourth column Of the Order Paper be granted to the Pre­ SHRI VASANT SATHE: There is sident to complete the sums neces­ no question of preference; there is sary to defray the charges that no choice. will come in course of payment during the year ending the 31st MR. CHAIRMAN: No supplemen- day of March, 1977, in respect of the heads of demands entered in taries. the second column thereof against Demands Nos. 89—92 relating to the SHRI NATWARLAL PATEL: I am Ministry of Tourism and Civil not putting supplementaries. Aviation.” (Interruptions) The motion was adopted. MR. CHAIRMAN: No supplemen­ ta ry , please It cannot be a running commentry. I am on my legs. Please sit down. You have finished Mr. 16.40 hrs. Minister. (Interruptions) Ministry of Steel and Mines SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: Yes. MR. CHAIRMAN: The House will now take up discussions and voting MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, there are of demand Nos. 83 to B5 relating to cut motions by Shri S. M Banerjee, the Ministry of Steel and Mines for Shrimati Parvathi Knshnan and which four hours have been allotted. Shri C H. Mohammad Koya. (Interruptions') Prof. & L. Saksena and Shri Bho- gendra Jha have tabled cut motions to the Demands relating to the Min­ SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: istry of Steel and Mines. I would "What is this? like to know if they are present in (Interruptions) the House. They are not present. So, the cut motions are not being moved.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. Motion moved: Now, there are cut motions by Shri ■S. M. Banerjee, Shrimati Parvathi “That the respective sums not Krishnan and Shri C. H. Mohammad exceeding the amounts on Revenue Koya. Since none of them is here in Account and Capital Account the House, I put them to vote to­ shown m the fourth column of the gether. I have to put them to the Order Paper be granted to the House. President to complete the sums necessary to defray the charges Now, I shall put all the cut motions that will come in course of pay­ ment during the year ending the to file vote of the House. Slst day of March, 1977, in respect of the heads of demands entered All the Cut Motions were Ptrt and in the second column thereof negatived. against Demands Nos. 88—85 relat­ ing to the Ministry of Steed aad MR. CHAIRMAN; The question is: Mines.* 983 O Q o f VAISAKHA 30, 180S (SAKA) S teel fc Mines 294 [Demon&r fpr Grants, 1876-77 in respect o# Ministry of Steel

Mo. of Nu k of DemandAmount of Deaw d lor Amount of Demrnd for Demand Grant on account voted by Grant submim d to the the Howe on 23-3-1976 vote of the House

Revenu e Capital Revenue Cepiiel Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. S3 D apartment of Steel 8,80,88,000 88,52,25,000 44,o4»4i»ooo 3,26,36,25,000 84 D -partinrr.t of Mines . 4,75,000 .. 23,75,000 85 Mine 6 and Minerals 6,00,93,000 16,70,52,000 30,04,68,000 83*52,62 cco

MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, Shri K. C. of Bhilai Steel Plant and commis­ Haider. sioning of Bokaro’s 4.75 million in­ got tonnes stage is likely to mate­ SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi): rialise in the early years of the The procedure is that 15 minutes axe Sixth Plan” . allowed for the members lo move their cut motions.... In the first year of the Fifth Plan, MR. CHAIRMAN: I have called though the installed capacity of Shri K. C. Haldcr. saleable steel was 8 million tonnes, the actual production was only 4.9 SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HAL* million tonnes---- DER (Ausgram): Mr. Chairman, Sir, despite the claims of the Steel Min­ SHRI P. K. DEO: On a point of istry that the steel industry in India order, Sir. Is passing through a period of crisis, the Government visualised on instal­ led capacity of 12 million tonnes of I raised & question of procedure steel by the end of the Fourth Plan. which is being so far followed in the The Report of the Ministry notes: House whenever cut motions are to be moved. Usually, 15 minutes are “No increase in capacity could, given to the Members within which however, by achieved by the end they are to indicate the Nos. of cut- of Fourth Plan. The expansion of motions that they want to move and IISCO to 1.3 million tonnes fiom submit the list to the Table. But you the existing capacity of 1 million have) given a ruling that as those tonnes was given tip by the then two hon. Members are not present in IISCO management. The attain­ the House, their cut motions are not ment of 1.7 million tonnes capacity moved. This is a wrong ruling, ac­ at Bokaro also could not materia­ cording to me. lise. The expansion of Bhilai to 4 million tonnes has been re-schedul­ MR. CHAIRMAN: You need not ed." worry for that. If they come within 15 minutes, I will permit them to What about the Fifth Plan’ This is move their cut motions. There is no what the Report admits. I quote: need of that point of order. I know the rule very well. If they come ‘However, due to constraints on within 15 minutes, I will permit them financial resources, the expansion to move their cut motions. *9 5 *** Of MAY 1«, m e s t e e l & M ines 29b

SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA BAL­ tor. The Manganese Ore (India) DER; During 1975-76, the saleable Ltd. is another example of such joint steel would be roughly about 6 mil­ sector company where the foreign lion tonnes. Though there has been private sector company fa allowed to some rise in the production, it does exploit Indian resources with 49 per not mean that there is spectacular cent equity participation. The pub­ rise in output. Even now huge un­ lic sector has thus become a hunting utilised capacity is in existence in ground for Indian and foreign mono­ the steel industry. polists. This will gradually convert the entire steel industry into joint Now, the Government has come sector if this policy is allowed to be forward witE the findings that by the pursued in future. TTSCO and Tin­ «»d of the Fifth Plan, there would plate companies controlled by Tatas be 2 million tonnes of surplus pro­ are already enjoying State patronage duction of steel. When the per capita and, with Government financial as­ consumption of steel in India is sistance amounting to crores of among the lowest in the world, the rupees, they are in a position to Government considers ths produc­ strengthen their profitability. tion to be surplus This only shows the growing recession in the country The projected target of ingot steel which the Government is hesitating production has been fixed at 8 2 M.T. to admit in 1976-77, roughly 13 per cent higher than that of 1975-76 Export of Pig Iron and semi-finished billets The demand for steel m India is will continue to be prominent fea­ falling rapidly due to stoppage of tures in the Steel policy and this I* developmental activities and con­ being claimed to be an achievement struction programmes of the Gov­ by the Government and by SAIL. ernment. This is mainly due to stag­ nation in economy. Hence, the Gov­ Let me express my genuine appre­ ernment now wants to boost exports hensions about the feasibility of at a loss when the prices in the in­ reaching the projected target. Hie ternal market is increasing and we targets have been fixed on the tech­ are forced to export steel at a loss. nical capacity of the industry, taking This is only increasing the loot of itself completely out of the national the Indian economy by the Western industrial scene. The promise that countries but the Government ap­ production will not be impeded is pears to be totally unconcerned about reassuring but already two shops in it Higher export performance in Durgapur Steel, i.e Sleeper Plant steel only means higher export loss and Fish Plate Plant have been clos­ and weakening of the Indian economy. ed down and Wheel-Axle Plant and The Steel Ministry is now trading Skelp Mill are suffering for lack of with the idea of joint sector and is orders. “Produce-as-the-consumers- helping the private sector to mint demand’* may be the call from the money at the cost of public sector. authorities but none of the Steel The recent example of formation of Plants can produce wherever they M/s Mandovi Pellet Ltd. in Goa in like. Their product-mix is fixed 1 collaboration with Chowgule & Com­ want to know what steps will be pany (P) Ltd. clearly shows that taken when one particular product though the Government has contribu­ goes a-begging for buyers and what ted 331/3 per cent of the equity ■vou propose to do with the Sleeper capital of this company, the Plant and Fish Plate Plant in Durga­ areal cream of profits will bo extract­ pur Steel Plant ed by Chowgule & Co. since they are having a major say in the manage­ Then, I want to know about ex­ ment The entire company could pansions There have been assuran­ have been started in the public sec­ ces in the past in respect of Alloy £97 W8 -T7—Min. o f VAISAKHA. 20, 1898 OSAKA) Steel & Mines 298

Steel Plant, Durgapur. Today the the management is further resorting expansion of Durgapur Steel Plant to vindictive measures. has reached paramount Importance, despite its bad finances, since its ex* In Durgapur, in the name of abolish­ istenca now depends entirely on the ing the contract labour, the Congress •diversification of its end products leaders were made leaders of For long, we have heard about 'lab­ fictitious' TaUour cooperatives and our indiscipline’ being responsible are allowed to earn huge profits. for the losses in Durgapur Steel The workers are exploited while, Plant. The canard has been blasted for political reasons, certain lea­ by your own figures which show that ders are given special privileges. Durgapur Steel Plant has lost 28 Recently, the Hindustan Steel Em­ crores last year despite their being ployees’ Union won 71 out of 72 no loss of even a single man hour. seats in the elections for the workers’ So its ailments lie somewhere else: cooperative societies, but how is it the cure lies in expansion and di­ that the Congress leaders became the versification. The budget does not President of several fictitious labour ensure any capital expenditure for cooperatives? This is a clear case of Durgapur Steel Plant; this must be a policy of political patronage given done. to some persons purely on partisan considerations. The Steel Ministry The Alloy Steel Plant has done connived at the victimisation of CITU lairly well last year as in the previ­ supporters from these bogus societies ous years. But Government has taken and gangsters were encouraged to a very discouraging role so far as its attack the CITU workers and leaders. expansion is concerned. The produc­ All suspension orders must be with­ tion in the plant can be tripled with drawn. I would request the hon. minimum capital expenditure. The Minister to reinstate all those em­ idle capacity in the Plant will be ployees who were dismissed without around Rs. 100 crores at the present assigning any reason for nominal day valuation level. faults. The import of steel and other arti­ Confronted with the problems of cles that can be produced indigenously heavy stocks and huge outstanding should be stopped. I make a special payments by consumers, the steel reference here to wheel-axle plant and management have resorted to attacks stainless sheets for them. on the steel workers in general. An It is a pity that almost all the 105 average worker in the shop floor is mini-steel plants have been closed laced with increased workload, de­ down throwing thousands of workmen creased earnings and the so-called dis­ out of employment. Government has ciplinary action on any pretext what­ utterly failed to provide job security soever. Dismissal without assigning and better amenities'to these workmen any reason is the order of the day. who are now faced with starvation. If The services of several employees have Government is prepared to subsidise been terminated even for small steel exports by way of not charging offences. ‘Fruitful participation’ means the depreciation costs and the tike, the Government signing on the dotted why should shnilar, measures not be lines. Practically all trade union contemplated to bring the mini-steel Tights, including the right to protest plants back to life? against management’s excesses, have been taken away. During the Emergency, the manage­ ment of Bhilai Steel Plant arbitrarily dismissed a Joint Secretary of the In Durgapur, six activists of a re­ Hindustan Steel Employees’ Union cognised Union were suspended, and (CITU) without assigning any reason. 299 DG 1876-77-Jtfin. o f WAY 10, 1876 Steel & Mine* 30©

I Shri Krishna Chandra Holder] ship, it is allowing full freedom to ft liquor shop just opposite the gate ot The real reason lor this action was the steel plant where 200 workers can that the trade union functionary con­ drink at a time. This is happening cerned , who was m the supervisory even after emergency and the Prime category, drew attention"* to certain Minister’s statement supporting pro­ corrupt practices of some senior offi­ hibition. cials of the Plant. The said super­ visor was threatened earlier with dis­ In Bokaro, several steel workers missal ii he persisted in his complaints were arrested prior to the Prime and the employee also drew the atten­ Minister’s visit to reopen the Hot tion ot the management to these Stnp Mill of the Plant on the 1st of threats. When the attention of the May. When you are showing lack ot Steel Minister was drawn to the mal­ confidence m the workers, your praise practices, he agreed to look into the of the Bokaro steel workers has no matter, but nothing has been done so meaning. far. On the contrary, the matters were hushed up while an employee showing In Rourkela, the steel plant manage­ concern for the good working of the ment dismissed a CITU union office­ plant is penalised How then in future bearer without assigning any reason. workers and employees will come for­ In Tensa mine under the plant, a ward with such information if they senior trade union leader has been are suppressed in this maimer. I would dismissed without giving any reason. request the Minister to consider the This is how emergency powers are gravity of the situation and take misused against workers. The threat drastic steps so that the malpractices of arrest under MISA Is hanging In the management are stopped forth­ against several trade union function­ with. aries. In Tensa mines though the CITU union is recognised by the management, it is denied of any faci­ A strange thing is seen in the Bhilai lity meant for a recognised union. You Steel Plant. Whereas the departmental may firce the workers to work under construction workers are kept idle, the regimented conditions for some days jobs which they can do, are given to but you should not dream of continu­ the contractors. Here, the officers of ing such conditions for an indefinite the plant and unscrupulous contractors period have made a common cause to cheat the public sector. Though the matter In this connection, I want to draw Wai represented to the Government the attention of the hon. Minister to Several times, no action has been taken the Ulbrum mine in Bankura in West and the contractors and officers are Bengal owned by a private Company. making money. Is it your concept of The Company has issued a notice for 'era of discipline’? —I want to know. closing down the mine from 2nd June 500 Adivasi Santhal workers, working One more thing m Bhilai which in this mine, get Rs. 2 per day as their must be reported here is this The wage These Scheduled Tribe people management refuses to give office have no other way of livelihood and premises to the registered unions ex­ if the mine is closed they will have cept the INTUC. The CITU union re­ to starve. I would request the Gov­ quested for allotment of a plot on ernment to take over the Ulbrum payment but it was refused by the mine in Bankura. management When the entire town­ ship is owned by the management, how 17.00 hrs. can a union function in the township without office premises’ While the The report of this Ministry does not management does not allow non* refer to the ghastly tragedy of Okas' n m rc union to function in the town­ nala where over 878 worker® lost their got DO »t*.T 7 —Jsfin. o f VA1SAKHA 20, 1888 iSAKA) S teel & Mines 302

totes. During the year under review, alone would enable us to get an objec­ there was another tragedy in the same tive view of the situation. mine which took a toll of 5 more em­ ployees. Though the Government has Lastly, despite the general optimism taken over the management of IISCO. shown about the performance of the the report does not even express any Steel Ministry, the underlying dangers concern at these accidents. There are Can hardly be overlooked. To put the many more accidents in other mines industry on a stable foundation, there during the last year in which several must be: (1) a massive investment, hundreds of workers died. (2) expansion and diversification, ( 3) technological innovations, (4) effective and meaningful participation of the In steel industry also the number o£ workers in the management (5) de­ fatal accidents is sufficiently high. In mand stimulation by reduction of some papers submitted to the Seminar prices and (6) stoppage of exports at on Safety in Steel Industry this fact was noted. But even now the govern­ subsidised rates. ment does not take adequate steps for I oppose the Demands.. protection of workers. In a paper on safety in steel industry it was pointed out that the trade unions’ suggestions regarding safety are invariably ig­ ^TT'TffT TT^PT, It nored by the management, resulting fV fW i *rt arcrf ^rr f in several accidents in industry. The Safety Committees are just formal. fa ? JRTT sfte*F9PT qffsspp % aft The All India Safety Committee in sffcr x$r $1 Steel Industry which has about 25 nominees has only 4 trade union re­ OTg? yt % ffiT T%T qr 1 presentatives while the rest are f t «tt s * «trr 1 If m w m management’s representatives and Government officials. The workers and trade unions who have vital stakes in JTT 3ITOB WX *TSTCT srpjT | If SRWt the safety have no proper represen­ arararrsrr ’ rrfrrr g far girfj* sjffcr rsrte tation. The Safety Manual prepared by the Safety Committee has not yet «pt 7 grrar 51 $snr ft reached the workers in vernacular »ptt | \ f t r i 1 1 language though sufficient time has titt $ ^ frvnf | 1 f*re$r *nr passed. This callous attitude towards safety should be discarded. f VPHRT =frr ^ c?Tte STTTCr *7. WT | \ 1963-64 if »T$ 44. 4 Recently there have been several WTTST t I accidents in the steel and mines in­ dustry due to the anxiety of the $ ^RTfRrr g % ?fs*FT WTCT managements to boost production any­ how. This has resulted in ignoring of safety rules which has been res­ irm fsptrr ponsible for many accidents. Secondly sr*rr fiwr t af»rr?r m in order to bring down the number of accidents, the government has JTffT ^rr^T ^f^nrr I 1 brought in a new concept of ‘report- sitfV 3fm feqr «rr 1 5^ irtftafV able accidents' and some accidents vft ft fTsfsrfaajr5? though of a serious nature are not 3 being reported. It is necessary to | ?r$ snrifr^hT | sfn t f*> record all the accidents so that the gqKT torr wrqr * mf¥ real cause of the accident is studied and remedial measures taken. This spr f«sr ft «r?r f*RT arr ff«r 1 I Jt.kj1.,sE :L~ -l~ ':~JlEl ~ a~J?Jll .t__1t # ~~J..g ~ ~t.E llt.h ~ .(ft~j ~!.Eo bill I ~ ~~ 2..2!~ !!?.~ ~:lili .e!:l:j~ ~ 1~ !; .l:t:2#.l£.\::-!t H .e~.l:tj.?Jl.b ~~ 1.~ ~ ~ +~ ~j-~ I - ~ ~.l:t 1fo 11: ll.i-~ · ~ bl.E.I:t l~ }.p~ ~ ~lilk

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f-RTTTT F^rof ffhsfVJ grown to its present size. We have- been able to teach both in the public and the private sectors double the level of production which we conceived of, namely, nearly 6 million tonnes fc I *fi? stfr I % fsp£ 31T5WT only after two decades. We may double ft ?m fr»rr i sfrsw^r sirr srssr ^t the present level of production in an­ other decade. We appreciate his fore- *?st % ftfor ft^r sightedness and Ms daring and bis «fV t> f^TT srrcr 1 zrg- fa?rft srsffa srer vision. He may be truly called the | f a 5 srra ^ ? m |5rr sfri 28 father of the steel industry in the public sector.

The steel industry covers the biggest ^ f !W tprffeflrfW spy segment of our investments in the n ^ ^ f f a 20TPrc^tftf»pfr smrnr public sector. In all public sector units, covering about 129 in number, % jjerTfa* tjfsspr f a x $ out of the total investment of more T&Z Sfif3f5RT ^ N V fti ^ f t than Rs. 7,000 crores, the steel sector ^rfsNT 3TT I I ftfar pr alone accounts for a total investment of more than Rs. 2,000 crores which iif t I fa *jfar csrrcf ft 295 ir^q? means that 30 per cent of our total i^frfarsr, 113 te fr m t investment has gone into steel. That is the biggest segment, as I said, in tftl 2034 f » tTjjfffcfasr! I ft WWRTT the entire public sector industry. fl fa v r 5*ri?sf ft >?$ a m ?fr a ? % ftf ft sfft *ts- f 1 *?r % t ^ t Now, Sir, what do we find? Does this ministry come up before Parlia­ fa ipifefft* & m m ^r to o t anft i ment for scrutiny every year? No; it was not discussed last year; year be­ fa?r «Wf ^ fftpT i t ^nft, ^r fore last it was discussed and the year t$spsrr«f * r 1 n r fa s * previous to that, it was not discussed *rgs ftrvt^irfr ^ % fa ffft*r fftsr *rf at all I would like to submit and you may tell the Speaker that it «fWo should be possible for this House to *>*ft faT% | I go into the details fully and see the working of this ministry every year. ft firrt^r vt m ti ?Rft fq Every year this important ministry ^ r r gr fa fa fa ^ m?* *r

much water has flown under the Sir, there is one thing which is not jamna Bridge. We have changed the so encouraging- Out of 5.7 million Rules of Procedure and this House is tonnes we are told that more than 6 given, the opportunity to discuss many lakh tonnes have been exported and things it did not discuss before. So, out of a targeted production of 6.5 even if tomorrow the guillotine is million tonnes in 1976-77 you have going to be applied and several minis­ already booked orders for 2 million tries demands are to be pasesd with­ tonnes which means that during the out a discussion, even after that, what last year and the coming year the stands in the way of the House from nation will be consuming less than 5 taking up such ministries for a dis­ million tonnes of steel. For a big cussion. I should like to place this country like India with a population suggestion before you and, through of 600 million people the consumption you, the Speaker and also the Minister of less than 5 million tonnes of iron for Parliamentary Affairs that we and steel shows that there is some­ should be allowed to discuss the minis­ thing basically wrong with our tries even after this under a suitable economy. The planners should take motion. This ministry is fortunate care of this situation and try to enough in having a dynemic person remedy it as early as possible. Let to be in charge of it and I should alone the population of 600 million, congratulate him and also the SAIL even if our population had stood at for the very good performance they the same level as it was when we have put up; in the year 1975-76, they achieved Independence, that is, 350 have reached the production level of million, I ask you whether the con­ 5.7 million tonnes of saleable steel sumption of less than 5 million tonnes which is 16.4 per cent more than what is anything sufficient. It is believed they did in the year 1974-75. In that that consumption of iron and steel in year, they produced only 4.9 million a country is the index of the progress tonnes and now for the very good of that country and measured by that results achieved, 1 should congratulate index, it aeons that there is some­ the Ministry. We should while con­ thing wrong with our economy, it is gratulating the ministry, remember sick and suffering. that the major factor which contribut­ ed to this happy development is this. It is the product-mix engendered by Sir, on the matter of export, I the emergency, namely, Improved would like to utter a note of warning. availability of inputs, improvement in We are happy that the export of steel Industrial relations, better discipline brings the much needed foreign ex* among the workers and cooperation change but I would like to know at between labour and management what price! Are we not exporting at which were responsible for this de­ a price lower than what we are selling velopment. All these things together to our own people? Xf so, the question which I called the product-mix of the that arises is, are we subsidising in. emergency have contributed to this dustrialisation in other countries? This happy result; and the railways have is a matter which has to be given done a wonderful job. Formerly there serious thoughts. While we are happy were complaints regarding non-avail­ that we are able to export—certainly ability of wagons, etc. but last year it is more profitable to export the the railways have done a wonderful finished products rather than iron ore job. They have moved Inputs into —if we export at a price less than the cost price or the sales price in this the steel factories more than what wa« country then what are we doing! Are targeted for and moved finished goods we doing something harmful or help­ out of the steel factories more than ful to this country? targeted for. This Is very encourag­ Now, I would like to sdy a few ing. words about SAIXb This was con- $ II DG 1976-77— Min. o f MAY 10, 1876 Steel & Mine* 31a

[Shri O. V. Alagesan] ter? This is a matter for the Speaker .'Stituted in the beginning of the year to go into. Also we have the Com­ 1973. The author of this holding com­ mittee on Assurances. To see whether pany idea, the late lamented Shri the assurances given on the floor of Mohan Kumaramanglam was ques­ the House are being followed or not, tioned very closely in the House on observed or not, is the job of that the function of SAIL and the way in Committee. which it was going to work. I would like to say the most important ques­ I was very disappointed not to re­ tion that was put was by my friend, ceive any report. Perhaps these re­ JShri R. S. Pandey. The question ports were not submitted. I do not raised by Shn R S. Pandey was re­ know. The Minister might choose to garding the accountability and answer, enlighten us on this point in the ability of SAIL to Parliament and the course of his reply. But the fact re­ country. This is the reply of the mains that these half-yearly reports Minister: which should have been submitted to Government, to Parliament and to the “The hon. member is perfectly country are not before us. right in emphasising the account, Now regarding the setup of SAIL ability of the Steel Authority of and the functions of the Ministry and India to Government and to the SAIL. Here also I would like to country for its operation of such quote. Kindly bear with me—this is a wide area of our country’s my second and last quotation. This is economic activity. That is regarding the functions of the why the Government have specific' Ministry: ally laid down that the- Steel Authority of India must submit a “Co-ordination of the growth of report every six months regarding the steel industry both in the public the working of that organisation, sector and private sector; planning, and Government certainly intend to development, control and assistance see that the authorities in charge of to all iron and steel industries’’ and the Steel Authority of India are so on and so forth. made accountable for the exercise of power which is being granted to them What are the functions of SAIL? in respect of organising our steel production”. ‘*To plan, promote and organise an integrated and efficient develop­ This was a very clear answer that ment of the iron and steel and as­ was provided by the then Minister to sociated industries such as iron oxe the question asked by Shri R. S. .. .; to coordinate the activities of Pandey. But then what do we find? the subsidiaries; to formulate and Has this been carried out? This very recommend to Government a na­ clear and unambiguous assurance by tional policy for the development of the Minister on the floor of the House iron and steel and related input —has this been carried out? In fact, industries and to advise it on all I wrote to our Minister to send those policies and technical matters”. reports. Half yearly reports means ihere would have been six reports by now. Even the annual reports for These are the Important functions. 1974-75 I could not get. There are These are huge tasks. I would like to only two report I could my hands on. say in paran thesis that this question Instead of sending the reports asked of the framing of a national policy on for the Minister was kind enough to iron and steel is yet to fructify. The send me a few cyelostyled papers con­ Committee on Public Undertakings taining some information, valuable drew the attention of Government and information, of course. But is it SAIL to this matter. That apart, -that was intended by the then Minis­ these two jobs are huge, big tasks. If 3X3 DG 19 76-77—Min. o f VAISAKHA 1808 (SAKA) S teel & M ines 314, anyone says that he can do both these jobs, do justice to both the jobs so on. Suppose that ministry wants simultaneously, he will be a very bold to follow your example: holding com* man, a very big man—of a type which pany, chairman of the holding com. is not generally available to us. Now pany is the secretary to the ministry. these two jobs, the Secretaryship of How will it look like? Then this also the Ministry and the Chairmanship of leads to two different kinds of secie- SAIL, are now combined in one per­ taries; their daily allowances are dif- son. Can these functions, big jobs, be terent. The chairman of SAIL will combined in one and the same person? get Rs. 175 per day; you and I get Can we expect him to carry both? Rs. 51; and the Rs. 4000 per month This is a big question. secretary of the Government of India who was looked upon with envoy in those days, gets less than Rs. 30 per Now you might have heard this day. If those two secretaries were to about Arjuna of old. Among the* go to Bombay, the chairman-secretary archers of Bharat, he was the one can go and stay in Oberoi-Sheraton person who could shoot arrows with hotel; the other secretary wiH have to both hands with equal ease. For that go into some miserable government reason, he was called savyasachi, the hostel and stay there, is it healthy man who could despatch arrows with to have this type of difference and both hands, the right and the left. Do different categories of secretaries? we have, a savyasachi in the person The public sector industries which of the incumbent of these two offices, we have created are big economic ol the Secretary of the Ministry and empires. They are bigger than the the Chairman of SAIL? I for one ministries which create them; they would feel that this is too big a job wield greater economic power even for one man to carry out satisfactorily than the state governments. They are, and this is against all canons of ad­ I should be excused for saying so, ministration. This has been drawn equivalents of the multinationals on attention to by the ARC, by the Esti­ the national scene. They have execu­ mates Committee and by the Com­ tives. We have abolished Maharaja* mittee on Public Undertakings. Their and nawabs; the executives of "the recommendation is that these two jobs public sector companies are the new should never be combined into one maharajas and nawabs. Our hon. and they should be held by separate Minister is a dynamic person but it is people, and this should be given effect difficult to control the huge public to. This recommendation which has sector undertakings for even the most been accepted by Government, which capable minister. Even Mr. Kumara- has been made by various bodies, is mangalam, I am told, did this only sought to be flouted. This, in my view is not a healthy thing to do. Suppose as a stopgap; he did n°t want this as this example is followed bv other a permanent arrangement. One cannot ministries. Take for instance *he aspire to reign in hell as well as petroleum ministry; it has got ONGC, serve in heaven. I say that these two IOC, Cochin Refineries, Madras Re­ posts should be bifurcated soon. The fineries, huge, big public sector under­ secretaryship might go, I do not mean takings; suppose they constitute a to a civilian or an ordinary bureau­ holding company and appoint a chair, crat, but to a technocrat. man and make him the chairman- secretary. How will it look? This SHRI CHAPALENDU BHATTA- bad example should not spread; that CHARYYIA (Giridih): What about is what I am warning you about. techno bureaucrats? Similarly, take the ministry of chemi­ cals and fertilizers. You have a num­ SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: There Is ber of big fertiliser units; the FACT, the danger of technocrats growing the IDPL which has several units and into bureaucrats; I hope the Minister DQ 1M4J-77—Mi*. o f WAX W* 1W8 * #*««* £*#

[Shri O. V. AJagesan] m.SS m um will ewwwt into a lose of about Bs. 110 wore*, I -will give his attention to this matter. like the hon. Minister to explain what (Interruptions) it the rate of interest, how they have calculated the interest and how they Taking capacity utilisation the other are going to pay the interest. Other day the Minister of Industries thunder­ groups of industries for instance, ed against unutilised capacity in the Chemicals group of industries set private sector and threatened that they apart 8 per cent for interest and ihe •would be visited with punitive mea­ Petroleum group of industries’ amount sures. In the steel ministry, we have set apart for this purpose works out certainly done well in the year 1974- to 10 per cent. I would like to know 75 and 1975-76; I have no time now why the interest has been worked out to quote the figures. It is better than at such a rate and we are shown the 1973-74 but it is not better than 1972- profit. 73. In the sixties, for three years consecutively the private sector fac­ Another point, I would like to touch tory TISCO attained 100 per cent pro­ is about the sale proceeds. The net duction In three consecutive j ears sales m 1973-74 amounted to Rs. 546.0 in 80s, TISCO attained cent per cent crores. In 1974-75, it amounted to Rs. production. IISCO attained cent per 865.0 crores, about 44 per cent increase. cent production in one year during the While the Malue in rupees has in­ sixties; and so when we take that into creased, the quantity that was sold account we have not travelled much. has remained more or less the same And under-utilisation is still there. and the Committee itself has been This year TISCO will reach cent per constrained to point out that “subs­ cent production. That is something tantial contribution came from price good. But, it is not new because increase on sales.” So, by increasing ’ TISCO attained full capacity utilisa­ the price we have shown a greater j tion during three years in the sixties. sale proceeds and not by increasing the quantity sold. This increase in Now, about profitability, in 1973- price means a bonanza to all private 74, the steel industries suffered a net sector industries in the steel segment loss of Rs, 5 72 cro’-es. In 1974-75 and they naturally welcomed this be­ there wag a net profit of Rs. 37.0 cause It is not as if private sector will croree. The HSL had made a profit not welcome public sector under these of Rs. 480 crores but Bokaro incur­ conditions, because you put up the red a loss. But on the whole there price of public sector products and was a net profit of Rs. 36.59 crores. that helps the private sector and j But what about the 'Government loan brings a bonanza to them. Why should that has been taken? The loan taken they object? So this aspect of price in­ by the steel industry amounts to Rs. crease should also be taken into ac­ 44.00 crores. What is the interest that count. has been earned on this loan amount. It was about Rs. 26.23 crores Now, Now, one word about Salem Steel this works out to about 3 per Plant. It is in my own State. Salem i cent. Now, we are told that seems to be the Cinderella among the i Government advance loan to pub-* steel sisters. While other sisters like lie sector undertakings and the Bhilai are over-fed, over-dressed and interest works out to between 7 over-perfumed and are bursting Per cent and 105 per cent. It is not with all good things of life, Salem is less than 7 per cent. It goes up to like one of the slum children. It is 10.5 per cent, under certain conditions. weak and emaciated, looking to Delhi If you work out the rate of interest for alms. It has not even the strength ®ve» at 9 per cent, this profit ot Rs. to cry, and only recently the mother instinct in the Prime Minister has coma < i 3 1 7 2)G i m -W -M ia. of VAXSAKMA 20, 1898 iSAKA) Steel k Mines 318

'to the re«eue of Salem and d&e propo­ SHRI D. K. PANDA (Bhanjanagar): sal to take some afcps, and I do not Sir, as for the performance of this know what they arc. Conunittew Ministry, production of steel has jan always constituted. As to whether increased by 15 per cent compared to the Committees will follow the mother last year, I congratulate the work­ instinct, 1 am very doubtful. This pro­ ers who during the emergency have ject was approved in 1972 at an esti­ sacrificed most of their cherished mated cost of Rs. 340.0 crores. Now. rights and earnings also. The minister it has gone up to Rs. 517.0 crores ac­ also deserves congratulations for the cording to one report and Rs. 518.10 performance. At the same time, there -according to another. These figures is a big contradiction that has come are very dangerous. One report says to the forefront. On the one hand the one thing and another report says Steel Minister, the Prime Minister another thing. I should say here that and everybody else have been advanc­ -Che report that has been brought out ing the cause of more and more pro­ by SAIL, which has got an authorised duction of steel. It has been declared capital of Rs. 2000 crores, a mighty by so many authorities in the minis­ ■sum in India, is a very shabby docu­ try that there should not be any cut­ ment. There should be some format, back in production. But at the same some way of supplying information. time, Mr Rusi Mody, perhaps the They give one set of figures and brother of Mr. Piloo Mody, who is another publication gives another the Director of TISCO has declared set of figures! Only Rs. 12 crores have that since steel was not selling owing been spent all these years on the to the recession in the market, pro­ ’Salem plant mostly on land, site prepa­ ducts worth Rs. 45 crores had piled ration and some civil works. For 1976- up in the stockyard and the money 77. Salem Steel Limited asked for ploughed back into production was Rs. 16 crores and the generosity of locked up, forcing the company to the Central Ministry could not provide borrow a like amount from the banks. more than Rs. 3 crores! It is a very So, in the name of cost control, all pitifully small sum. I hope the full purchases have now been stopped. In amount of Rs. 16 crores will be provid­ February 76, a circular was issued ed for it. The Minister shou’d look not to issue any requisition for spare at this project with greater sympathy. parts, and it is also necessary, accord­ What disturbs me is, I found a news ing to him, to obtain permission from item sometime ago that if Rs. 16 the General Superintendent even for crores are sanctioned this year, next purchase of materials worth Rs. 500f I year they will have to sanction a draw the attention of the minister to much larger amount which they are this contradiction: on the ine hand not prepared to provide and so they there is a propaganda and demorali­ are not able to provide Rs. 16 crores sation being spread among the wor­ this year! I do not know if that is true, kers, engineers, etc. saying that there but if it is true, it is a very funny is stockpiling. On the other hand, situation in which we are in. I would there is a call for more production. like to appeal to the Minister to pro­ This has to be resolved. According to vide the full amount of Rs. 16 crores me, if our projections for industrial and also take care of it next year. In growth and export in the coming ' years are any indication, we can safe­ an investment amounting Rs. 400 cro­ ly say that we have a really good res and more, what is Rs. 16 case for proceeding with the produc­ crores? They will be able to tell tion and hot to have any cut-back. the minister how to find these Rs. 16 ' So, the hon. Minister should enlighten crores. It is not a big amount. With Us about this contradiction which has this appeal, I conclude in deference come up. 'to your wishes, even though X have ■a few more points. 319 DG 1076-77—Min. o f MAY 10, 1976 S teel & Mine* 3JO

[Shri D. K. Panda] the permanent jobs which were be­ Regarding export of iron-ore, we ing done departmentally on or before- feel that we should stop exporting 1974 will continue to be done through iron-ore. We can use this iron-ore for regular employees. That was also the* industrialising our country and m agreement that was signed on 30-7-7$ future, we will be able to earn much but that was also not honoured. more foreign exchange by producing more. There should be a specific Now, what is going on, because of direction to the policy of export also. this? The officer-contractor combine There is absolutely no doubt that has built up and created their own fhe public sector has made certain foundation. Therefore we find that the achievements and it has earned dis­ Central and State laws are being vio­ tinction in the production field But as lated. The law says: for the workers who should have been rewarded for sacrifice, what did they “In cases where the workmen gcft in return? In Rourkela Steel employed by the contractor perform Plant, 14 trade union activists have the same or similar kind of work, been removed from service under sec­ as the workmen directly employed tion 13 of the Standing Order. We by the principal employer, the wage have made & special representation rates, holidays, hours of work and about four workers who have organi­ other conditions of service shall be sed people in support of the Prime the same.” Minister’s 20-Point Programme and declared their full support to the But this is not being implemented. Government, but nothing has been These are the agreements which I am done about them also. quoting. In spite of this, all these As far as workers’ participation in rules and agreements have been vio­ management is concerned, this 3houId lated by these contractors. Therefore, be done at the Durgapur pattern. Re­ I demand that the contract labour sys­ presentatives from INTUC, AITUC tem should be abolished immediately and HMS sffiQuld be taken in the as far as Burnpur is concerned. Board of Management In regard to Bhilai, the N.M.H. wor­ About contract labour in IISCO, I kers are on the increase, against the have received various letters and re­ decision of the national joint consul­ presentations from Burnpur. There, the tative committee Their figure has now contract labour system has created gone up to 3,000. I draw the atten­ havoc. It was stipulated in ihe first tion of the hon. Minister to this fact all India agreement that was signed and request that these 3,000 should be that industries would not employ la­ absorbed as regular workers. bour through contract in jobs of per­ manent and perennial nature. The About TISCO, I have already point­ plant level agreement was reached m ed out how demoralization is spread­ 1971 in which it was stipulated that ing. The time has now come for within a period of six months all taking over TISCO, before it be­ such workers would be absorbed. After comes actually sick. On 9-3-197u', the a lapse of four years, we find that AITtrc has addressed a letter to the only 600 workers have been taken and Prime Minister; and prior to it a there are still 1200 workers according letter was addressed to Shri Brahma- to the agreed formula. 1 would, there­ nanda Reddy. You will find that sub­ fore, request the hon. Minister to see versive activities are going on in that all contract labour who are en­ TISCO. I would quote only certain gaged in a perennial nature of job things. On 7-3-1976, 2200 workers are- should be taken over immediately. retrenched. 1 DO W t+ n ~ 4 tin . o f VAISAKHA 20.1898 <$4JCA> Steel * M ines p i

MB. CHAIRMAN; You have exceed­ spite of the assurance given by the ed 4he time by two minute*. hon. Minister—perhaps on 21-3-197S— while he was in Orissa. Therefore, I SHSU D. K. PANDA: Kindly give demand that it should be immediately me ft more minutes, taken up.

MR. CHAIRMAN: I can give you As far as the development of non- only 6 minutes and not 8 minutes. coal mines is concerned, it is d«ftnrte- ly necessary that scientific methods, SHRI D. X. "PANDA: How can I research work, high level technology, finish in 5 minutes? all these things are necessary to deve­ lop the mineral wealth of the country. MR. CHAIRMAN: Please don’t ar­ Orissa is one of the leading producers gue. Cut it short and finish it within of iron ore, manganese, chromite etc. 5 minutes. The development of the minerals really involve research development of SHRI D. K. PANDA: More than transport and communications, estab­ 1000 workers have been declared sur­ lishment of industries, export outlet plus. 8000 workers who were waiting etc. Can we expect Rungta or a lor job*, have lost their job oppor­ Bird* & Company to achieve these tunities’. W« also come across the acti­ things? It is difficult for them to do vities of foreign agents. Mr. Russi all these things. Moreover, they Mody heads the educational institute deliberately do not invest money for called the Xavier Labour Relations these purposes. Therefore, it Is high Institute. We find Father Cario, who is time that these non-coal mines are an American citizen, organizing lec­ taken up, especially if we really want­ tures in the name of Moral Rearma­ ed an integrated policy, as in the case ment. You will find so many officers of steel. from TISCO, TELCO and Tinplate* joining them and taking keen inter* The fact that these non-coal mines est in them. are in private hands creates the prob­ lem of unemployment. There is also In the Dimna Nala area in the hill­ dislocation in the mining programme. side, there is a huge, palatial building, Only in one place in Orissa 185 mines built at a cost of Rs. 2 lakhs. The are idle and out of these 140 are now Father of the Colmuri Church having on leave. If we take over these the headquaters at Chaibasa is in mines, the nation will be benefited to charge. This institution, H is appre­ a great extent, because we know that hended, is (inducting espionage activi­ the development of mineral resources ties. There should be an immediate cannot be done by these private com­ probe into the matter. And before panies, much less by those who are al­ TISCO becomes really sick, it should ready throwing out thousands and be taken over by the Government, be­ thousands of workers into the streets. cause the Government has also inves­ In that area, in Badbil 5,000 workers ted 45 per cent of the share capital have been thrown out of employment. in it. It is high time that we do it. Therefore, I say that these non-coal mines should be nationalised. Now, as far as the expansion of the In the mines of the National Mineral steel plaints is concerned, as my fri­ Development Corporation there i« no end has put it, Durgapur's perfor­ participation of labour in management mance has shown the way. It has ad­ anywhere. In UP, though an apex body vanced greatly. Therefore, it should has been formed, you will be surprised be expanded. In regard to the ex­ to know that not even for a single day pansion of Rourkela plant, I do not it could operate and not even lor a find any mention hi the Report, in single day any meeting could be fixed, 3*3 o o <* may m, me *»»i * iom» 3*4

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